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[tense music]
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*
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- A man may die,
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nations may rise and fall,
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but an idea lives on.
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[cheers and applause]
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[gunshot]
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[people screaming]
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[gunshots]
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[siren wailing]
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*
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- It's not an easy
thing to kill the president
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of the United States.
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But according to the official
report,
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one man pulled off the
crime of the century
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completely on his own.
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I've never believed it.
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One man can't plan this without
support.
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[dramatic music]
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Now declassified files show
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that Oswald met with our main
enemies,
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then came back and
assassinated the president.
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*
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If someone wanted to join ISIS
and traveled across the border
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and then came back...
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[loud explosion]
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And committed mass murder,
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can we really say
he acted alone?
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male narrator: Bob Baer spent
21 years as a CIA agent
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investigating assassinations
and running covert operations.
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His interest in the Kennedy
assassination
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became an obsession while still
working inside the walls
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of America's most secretive
organization.
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- When I was still at the
agency,
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I made a request for files
concerning Lee Harvey Oswald
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and the Kennedy assassination.
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I took it all the way to the
director, George H.W. Bush.
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He gave his approval, but when
I went to retrieve the files,
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I was told they were all lost.
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Nothing the CIA does is random.
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They don't lose information;
they conceal it.
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I know, because I've done it
myself.
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narrator: Now those missing
files have been declassified
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along with over 2 million
top secret documents
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pertaining to the
assassination.
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- Over the last 50 years, this
case has become
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all about conspiracy theories.
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I don't believe in conspiracy
theories.
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I believe that Lee Harvey
Oswald was the lone gunman
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in Dealey Plaza,
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[gunshot]
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But I always believed he
had a network supporting him.
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With these declassified files,
I'm going to prove it.
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No one can hide in the shadows
forever.
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[light music]
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54 years ago, the president of
the United States
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was murdered down there.
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I, for one, have never been
satisfied
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with the record on this.
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- This case has been
contaminated by conspiracy,
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by movies; it's become part of
our landscape, you know.
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It's the JFK assassination.
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We need to step back,
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and we need to look at this
objectively.
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narrator: As Bob launches his
independent investigation,
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he's joined by
Adam Bercovici.
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A former lieutenant of the Los
Angeles Police Department,
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Bercovici led the elite special
investigations section
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supervising hundreds of
high-profile homicide
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investigations over the course
of his 30-year career.
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- Take away the conspiracy.
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Look at this as a murder
investigation
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- Adam's experience will help me
get at the questions
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all the other investigations
didn't know to ask.
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He thinks like a cop,
and that's exactly what I need.
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The Warren Commission clearly
had a political agenda,
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as we know.
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President Johnson does not want
to chuck us into a war
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that can kill 40 million
Americans in an hour.
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narrator: One week after the
assassination
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of John F. Kennedy,
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newly appointed
president Lyndon Johnson
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orders Chief Justice Earl
Warren
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to investigate the events at
Dealey Plaza.
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From the start, Johnson is
concerned about the potential
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involvement of Communist
enemies
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at the height of the Cold War.
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He warns the Commission that
evidence implicating Russia
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or Cuba could drive the world
into nuclear war.
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In the end, the 888-page report
concludes that Oswald acted
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entirely alone without the
assistance
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of any accomplices.
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- The Warren Commission was
ordered to avoid
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any conclusion that would lead
to war,
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so they ignored important
questions.
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Who else would have benefitted
from JFK's murder?
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The Russians, the Cubans.
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It's hard to believe he didn't
have support.
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The Warren Commission report
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drew on thousands of pieces of
evidence.
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But the fact is, there were
millions upon millions
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more pieces of evidence
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the Warren Commission didn't
have access to,
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because the CIA and the FBI
withheld information.
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More than 2 million documents
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have been declassified
in this case.
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But there is one document that
jumped out at me right away.
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This is a classified
conversation
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between President Johnson
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and FBI director J. Edgar Hoover
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on November 23, 1963,
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the day after the assassination,
in a meeting about Oswald.
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Here's LBJ.
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"Have you established any more
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about the visit to the Soviet
embassy in Mexico in September?"
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J. Edgar Hoover:
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"No, that's one angle that's
very confusing."
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This is extraordinary.
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This evidence puts Oswald in the
Soviet embassy eight weeks
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before the assassination.
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- The fact that that's not been
looked at closely,
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I don't get it.
I mean, this is the Cold War.
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This is 1963.
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This is at the height of the
undeclared conflict
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between the Soviet Union and the
United States,
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and he makes it to Mexico City,
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and he goes to the
Soviet embassy.
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That's a big deal.
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Today if you substituted the
Soviet embassy
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with the Islamic State in Syria,
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this is enough
to get somebody arrested
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as a material witness.
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- Absolutely.
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- This is 100 times worse
than what we're seeing today,
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because this man killed the
president of the United States,
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and he made contact right before
with the main enemy.
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Let's see what else there is
about Oswald's visit
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to Mexico City.
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narrator: To analyze more than
2 million declassified
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documents gathered
over a 54-year period,
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the team utilizes an enhanced
neural network,
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running state-of-the-art
analysis algorithms
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to uncover hidden links between
seemingly unrelated documents.
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- In this case, there hasn't
been one giant document dump.
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The documents have been
released
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strategically little by little
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making it virtually impossible
for people to piece it together.
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This is what the CIA does.
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I did it myself.
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No one's taken the time to put
them all together
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and look at them as a
collective.
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Look at this.
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After the assassination,
John McCone, the CIA director,
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tells employees not to answer
questions
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about Oswald in Mexico City.
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- This is not how a criminal
investigation is conducted.
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They were telling people not to
tell the truth.
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- Something happened in Mexico
City the CIA didn't want
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the Warren Commission to know
about.
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- We're gonna need more
evidence.
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- Yeah, we've got to get down
there.
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This is ground zero for this
whole investigation.
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narrator: When Lee Harvey
Oswald assassinates
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President John F. Kennedy,
he's only 24 years old.
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Born in New Orleans, Oswald is
raised in Dallas
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without a father, who died
shortly before his birth.
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At age 19, he attempts to
renounce his American
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citizenship and defect to the
Soviet Union.
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His efforts to become a Soviet
citizen fail,
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but he remains in Russia for
three years until 1962,
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returning to the United
States just one year before
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his trip to Mexico City.
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[dramatic music]
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- Mexico City in the '60s was a
hotbed of espionage.
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Because of the close proximity
to the United States
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and Mexico's soft stance on
communism,
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America's enemies used the city
as a hub of intelligence.
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It's no coincidence that the
biggest crime
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of the 20th century could have
been planned here.
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[dramatic music]
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- Bob, good to see you again.
- Good to see you.
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- Let's go get after it.
- Yeah.
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narrator: Joining the team in
Mexico City
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is former army ranger Marty
Skovlund,
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a veteran of five
Middle East deployments
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to both
Iraq and Afghanistan.
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- Marty specialized in covert
operations
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during his time in
the military.
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His knowledge of terrorist
networks and assassinations
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will be invaluable to this
investigation.
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[tense music]
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Oswald's six days in this city
are absolutely crucial.
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They were never looked into by
the Warren Commission,
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because they didn't want to
know.
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All through the declassified
files, there's smoke.
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What I want to do is find the
fire.
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If the CIA is telling people
not to answer questions,
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those are exactly the questions
I want answered.
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- During the 1960s, right on
the doorstep of the U.S.,
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you have a hotbed of Soviet
espionage
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right here in Mexico City.
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So we have Oswald,
almost 24 years old,
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walking right through those
gates into the Soviet embassy.
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- Essentially meeting with the
enemy.
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If we look at it today in terms
of that context,
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a 24-year-old meeting with ISIS
or al-Qaeda, it stands out.
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I mean, it's a big deal.
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It really is.
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- All spy operations were run
out of here.
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The CIA had it completely
covered
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from observation posts and
listening posts.
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What I want to do is get into
these buildings around here
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and find out, if we can, where
the CIA listening post was.
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I'd like to see the vantage
point they used.
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narrator: Back in the 1960s and
even today,
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the CIA employed covert
surveillance stations
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known as listening posts in
strategic spots
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across the globe to gather
intelligence
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from foreign enemies.
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Situated near embassies and
government buildings,
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these sites utilized long-range
microphones and telephone bugs
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to document activity at
sensitive locations.
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- Let's move.
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I want to find the listening
post
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the CIA used to observe
Oswald's visit.
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My suspicion is that U.S.
surveillance
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might have been too intense
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for the Russians to
discuss anything sensitive
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with Oswald inside the embassy.
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But I can't say for sure until
I've put eyes on the sight.
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It's this building right here.
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narrator: Utilizing his
network,
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Bob gains access to what he
believes is a former CIA
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listening post along the
embassy's perimeter.
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- Come in.
- Thank you.
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So you've lived here a long
time.
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- Quite for a while.
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When we moved in, we realized
that there was something
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pretty weird about this
apartment.
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There was this safe,
there were some monitors.
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- Yeah.
- And also that door over
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there, as you can see,
it's made of metal, so...
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- Look at this door.
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That's a safe room.
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- Yeah, look at the lock on
here.
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- The door that we came in over
here, that's no normal,
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ordinary apartment door either.
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I mean, you've got a cage on the
outside.
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Whoever was staying in here
wanted a very secure apartment.
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- We were told that there were
some people,
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perhaps spies,
for several years.
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- I've kicked a lot of doors in
my career.
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and I've never seen one
like this.
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- Yeah, you're right next to the
Russian embassy.
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This was definitely an L.P.,
a listening post.
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But this place is a fortress.
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Any American walking into this
embassy
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is not coming here for
high tea.
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He's coming here to do
damage to the United States.
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[dramatic music]
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Oswald going into the Soviet
embassy
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is what's called a walk-in...
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*
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People that come in willing to
betray their country
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and give up what they know.
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As soon as Oswald enters the
Soviet embassy,
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he would have met a Russian
diplomatic official,
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but in fact,
he's probably KGB.
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That's the way it works.
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This is something that I spent
a career doing.
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As Oswald makes his way through
the embassy,
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this whole process would look
like it was a visa interview,
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but in fact,
that's just the cover.
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He's going to be ushered into a
walk-in room,
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where he's gonna
be met by other KGB officers.
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They would have quickly sized
Oswald up
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to see if Oswald would
be of any use.
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I've run dozens and dozens of
these things
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where you bring in L.P.,
and the major thing is,
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the Russians know it's here,
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but that doesn't keep the CIA
from watching who's coming in.
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- I mean, you just imagine
sitting here in '63.
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This is where they probably
watched him walk in.
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Eight weeks later,
President Kennedy's dead.
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- We have to assume at this
point that Oswald
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intends to commit political
murder.
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Two months later, he kills the
president of the United States.
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The chances of his coming into
this embassy
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and proposing
political murder
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in the United States
are pretty good.
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Better chance is that the
moment he mentions that,
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the Russians are gonna say,
"All right,
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let's take this outside."
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The Russians have to assume
their embassy is wired
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and all conversations inside
that embassy are monitored.
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And what I want to find out is,
when he left this embassy,
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whether there was recontact,
and also,
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what were the Russians'
intentions?
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If the Russians were involved in
the assassination,
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I don't believe they would have
talked about the murder
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inside the embassy.
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They were simply under too much
surveillance,
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and they knew it.
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And you just look at this L.P.
here
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and how close we are.
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The Russians wouldn't have taken
the risk.
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And they just wouldn't do it
here.
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After finding this listening
post, I now feel confident.
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The Russians would have met up
with Oswald
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at a safe location
outside the embassy,
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someplace that they could speak
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where they weren't being
surveilled.
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We need to look for evidence of
that covert meeting.
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The red flag has already gone up
for me.
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narrator: Convinced that Oswald
and the Russians
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would have never discussed
Kennedy's assassination
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inside the embassy,
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the team divides to look for
evidence
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of a second meeting.
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While Bob and Adam dig back
into the documents,
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Marty meets up with local
investigator Eric Ceballos
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and heads to Lee Harvey
Oswald's Mexico City hotel.
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- You're saying this is not
really a tourist area?
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- No, no, no, it's actually
pretty sketchy.
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It's dangerous for sure.
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- Do you think it was that way
back in '63?
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- Yes, this part of the city,
yes.
330
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- Yeah?
- It's not a touristy place.
331
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narrator: The Warren Commission
reports that Lee Harvey Oswald
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checked into the Hotel del
Comercio
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within one hour of his arrival
in Mexico City.
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- Okay, it's just up here, guys.
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narrator: Located in a
high-crime area
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with a reported cartel
presence,
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Eric instructs Marty to utilize
a phone camera
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to film the hotel.
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- [speaking Spanish]
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- [speaking Spanish]
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- The first thing that jumps
out at me is,
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this is off the beaten path.
343
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It's run-down.
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It's just not the typical spot
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that you would come to as a
tourist.
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It's very functional.
347
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I worked as a member of a unit
that was bringing down the most
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sophisticated terrorist
networks in the world.
349
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This is the kind of flophouse
terrorists hide in
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to stay off the radar.
351
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And he gets off the bus in
Mexico City
352
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and goes straight
for this hotel.
353
00:17:01,721 --> 00:17:05,191
When you look at Lee Harvey
Oswald's patterns of behavior,
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they raise all sorts of red
flags.
355
00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:08,399
You know, he's claiming to be a
tourist,
356
00:17:08,428 --> 00:17:10,058
but he's not acting like a
tourist at all.
357
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He's not staying
where a tourist stays.
358
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He's acting in a very
deliberate
359
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and planned-out manner
360
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that's consistent with somebody
that's on a mission.
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- Anybody that walks into a
Soviet embassy
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in a country where it's a hotbed
of espionage,
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he's not a tourist.
364
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I tell you, if I were in that
embassy
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and I were assessing him,
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I would give him a walk-in
package.
367
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It's the way it works.
368
00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:45,799
When I was at the CIA, I ran
hundreds of walk-ins.
369
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If a walk in comes into the
embassy,
370
00:17:48,868 --> 00:17:51,668
the protocol is very clear.
371
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[dramatic music]
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If the Russians wanted to meet
Oswald outside the embassy,
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they would have given him coded
meeting arrangements,
374
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a so-called walk-in package.
375
00:18:05,718 --> 00:18:08,558
It would have looked like
ordinary papers,
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things that would look
completely benign
377
00:18:10,623 --> 00:18:15,333
to anyone but Oswald.
378
00:18:15,362 --> 00:18:18,602
Even the CIA would not have
immediately recognized them
379
00:18:18,631 --> 00:18:21,231
for what they were.
380
00:18:21,268 --> 00:18:24,538
These papers would have pointed
Oswald in the direction
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of another location and time,
382
00:18:29,476 --> 00:18:31,676
the meeting outside of the
embassy.
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narrator: In the wake of the
assassination,
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the FBI catalogued all of
Lee Harvey Oswald's
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personal effects.
386
00:18:42,822 --> 00:18:45,192
Among the items listed in the
Warren Commission
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00:18:45,225 --> 00:18:47,555
were a
Spanish-English dictionary,
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00:18:47,594 --> 00:18:51,604
a tourist guide, a city map,
and multiple postcards.
389
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,900
- We have a map; any tourist
could have had this.
390
00:18:55,935 --> 00:18:58,305
We've got a dictionary,
a Spanish-English dictionary.
391
00:18:58,338 --> 00:19:00,868
We've got postcards.
392
00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:06,477
- You know what I don't like
about the postcards?
393
00:19:06,513 --> 00:19:08,783
Here's a guy on the edge.
394
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Would he come down
here and buy a postcard?
395
00:19:12,352 --> 00:19:14,292
What possible reason?
396
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Do people do that that are about
ready to commit a crime?
397
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The Warren Commission missed
this.
398
00:19:20,327 --> 00:19:24,597
These postcards were not looked
at with any expertise.
399
00:19:24,631 --> 00:19:26,601
Like the rest of the stuff
400
00:19:26,633 --> 00:19:29,303
Oswald walked around Mexico
City with,
401
00:19:29,336 --> 00:19:31,966
the postcards could
easily be written off
402
00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:33,674
as something a tourist would
buy,
403
00:19:33,706 --> 00:19:36,606
but having spent 21 years in
the CIA,
404
00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:38,753
this screams tradecraft to
me.
405
00:19:40,580 --> 00:19:43,550
narrator: During the Cold War,
the Soviet KGB
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perfected the art of covert
communication
407
00:19:46,253 --> 00:19:48,863
known as tradecraft.
408
00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:53,658
In 1961, Colonel Oleg Penkovsky
of the Soviet military
409
00:19:53,693 --> 00:19:56,833
used postcards as a mechanism
to pass intelligence
410
00:19:56,863 --> 00:19:59,003
during clandestine operations.
411
00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:02,341
The landmark featured on the
front of the postcard
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is the desired location of a
secret meeting.
413
00:20:05,004 --> 00:20:06,974
There is no set time for this
meeting.
414
00:20:07,006 --> 00:20:10,336
Instead, the KGB
surveils their asset,
415
00:20:10,377 --> 00:20:12,847
waiting
for him to visit the landmark.
416
00:20:12,879 --> 00:20:15,849
Agents would then make their
approach.
417
00:20:17,784 --> 00:20:21,654
- Sending Oswald out of an
embassy with a postcard
418
00:20:21,688 --> 00:20:23,788
outlining what the meeting is
gonna be,
419
00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:27,933
the tradecraft is identical to
the tradecraft used by the KGB,
420
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,330
absolutely secure,
doesn't implicate,
421
00:20:31,364 --> 00:20:34,474
and it's the absence of evidence
422
00:20:34,501 --> 00:20:36,871
that is evidence itself.
423
00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:39,343
narrator: The postcards in
Oswald's possession
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00:20:39,372 --> 00:20:42,482
feature four prominent Mexico
City landmarks,
425
00:20:42,509 --> 00:20:45,949
the Revolution Monument,
the Torre Latino,
426
00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:47,848
the Angel of Independence,
427
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,320
and the Plaza de Toros
bullring.
428
00:20:51,351 --> 00:20:52,791
- So what do you think?
429
00:20:52,819 --> 00:20:54,619
- I think, yeah, we've got four
locations.
430
00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:58,294
What I'd like to do
is go and visit all four
431
00:20:58,325 --> 00:21:02,355
and reconstruct the most logical
place
432
00:21:02,395 --> 00:21:03,555
to make a meeting.
433
00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:10,399
We know from the documents the
CIA observed
434
00:21:10,437 --> 00:21:13,437
Oswald going inside
the Russian embassy
435
00:21:13,473 --> 00:21:16,313
and meeting
with our main enemy.
436
00:21:16,343 --> 00:21:18,713
After the meeting, the CIA
would have been keeping track
437
00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:20,905
of Oswald around the city.
438
00:21:20,947 --> 00:21:24,677
If one of these places would
have been used to discuss
439
00:21:24,717 --> 00:21:27,387
killing Kennedy, it would have
had to have been a place
440
00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:29,990
where you can't be photographed,
where you can't be surveilled.
441
00:21:30,022 --> 00:21:33,992
narrator: The team splits up to
see which of the four locations
442
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is viable
for a covert meeting.
443
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:39,470
[dramatic music]
444
00:21:39,499 --> 00:21:42,599
- So what we're looking for is a
place that Soviets might have
445
00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:46,635
had what they're calling an iron
meeting.
446
00:21:46,673 --> 00:21:48,483
narrator: The first of Oswald's
postcards
447
00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:50,708
features the Revolution
Monument,
448
00:21:50,743 --> 00:21:53,513
a landmark opened in 1938
449
00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:56,746
to commemorate the Mexican
Revolution.
450
00:21:56,783 --> 00:21:59,023
- The bottom line is, is this a
place that we want to have
451
00:21:59,051 --> 00:22:01,591
a clandestine meeting?
452
00:22:01,621 --> 00:22:04,121
It's the kind of meeting that
can't be compromised
453
00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:05,756
by counter surveillance.
454
00:22:05,792 --> 00:22:07,662
- The KGB at that time,
455
00:22:07,694 --> 00:22:09,364
they were
among the best in the world
456
00:22:09,396 --> 00:22:10,756
at doing this sort of thing.
457
00:22:10,797 --> 00:22:12,097
They're not gonna pick a place
458
00:22:12,131 --> 00:22:14,901
that leaves them
vulnerable at all.
459
00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:17,074
*
460
00:22:17,103 --> 00:22:18,873
- I mean, you've got a meeting
spot up there,
461
00:22:18,905 --> 00:22:21,135
but you've got one way up
and one way down,
462
00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:22,783
essentially no escape route
if you're trying to beat
463
00:22:22,809 --> 00:22:24,679
a surveillance.
464
00:22:24,711 --> 00:22:27,111
- Up there is a terrible place
to conduct a meeting,
465
00:22:27,146 --> 00:22:28,746
but it's a
great place if you're the one
466
00:22:28,781 --> 00:22:31,981
running surveillance on a
potential meeting.
467
00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:36,718
narrator: In 1963, both KGB and
CIA operations
468
00:22:36,756 --> 00:22:39,386
assume the enemy is
always watching.
469
00:22:39,426 --> 00:22:43,596
The KGB strategically select
meeting locations to dodge
470
00:22:43,630 --> 00:22:48,500
the CIA, avoiding places like
the plaza around the Revolution
471
00:22:48,535 --> 00:22:51,465
Monument, where the CIA could
easily watch
472
00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:54,414
from the monument's
elevated perch.
473
00:22:54,441 --> 00:22:56,541
- We need something that's easy
to get in and out of,
474
00:22:56,576 --> 00:22:58,176
something that's easy to
counter-surveil,
475
00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:00,710
and this is not that place.
476
00:23:00,747 --> 00:23:02,847
*
477
00:23:02,882 --> 00:23:05,922
narrator: Across town, Bob is
joined by local investigator
478
00:23:05,952 --> 00:23:09,062
Eric Ceballos to survey the
second location
479
00:23:09,088 --> 00:23:11,958
featured on Oswald's postcards.
480
00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:14,931
- So this is the Angel of
Independence.
481
00:23:14,961 --> 00:23:18,101
- Let's see what we can see.
482
00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:20,830
narrator: Known commonly as El
Angel,
483
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the Angel of Independence was
built in 1910
484
00:23:24,036 --> 00:23:26,166
on a roundabout of a
major thoroughfare
485
00:23:26,205 --> 00:23:29,775
in downtown Mexico City.
486
00:23:29,809 --> 00:23:32,509
- I've worked against the KGB
for many years,
487
00:23:32,545 --> 00:23:34,175
and I can tell you
right now,
488
00:23:34,213 --> 00:23:36,623
they are not gonna pick
an open location like this
489
00:23:36,649 --> 00:23:39,949
so you've got 360-degree
coverage.
490
00:23:39,986 --> 00:23:41,616
They can't control it.
491
00:23:41,654 --> 00:23:44,894
The CIA was watching everything
they did there.
492
00:23:44,924 --> 00:23:47,094
narrator: The Angel of
Independence sits
493
00:23:47,126 --> 00:23:49,056
on an isolated roundabout,
494
00:23:49,095 --> 00:23:51,625
making a meeting visible from
all directions
495
00:23:51,664 --> 00:23:55,474
and offering no
escape route for KGB agents
496
00:23:55,502 --> 00:23:58,872
or Oswald if spotted by the
CIA.
497
00:23:58,905 --> 00:24:02,005
- I'm quite certain that
whatever this postcard means,
498
00:24:02,041 --> 00:24:03,581
it did not mean meeting here.
499
00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:05,040
That makes no sense at all.
500
00:24:09,749 --> 00:24:11,549
[tense music]
501
00:24:11,584 --> 00:24:13,694
narrator: With two sites left
to investigate,
502
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,660
Adam and Marty head
into the heart
503
00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:18,658
of Mexico City's
financial district.
504
00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:20,931
A postcard featuring the
skyscraper
505
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,600
known as El Torre Latino was
one of four found
506
00:24:24,631 --> 00:24:28,641
among the personal possessions
of Lee Harvey Oswald.
507
00:24:28,668 --> 00:24:30,868
- This building right here, this
Empire State Building-looking
508
00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:35,613
thing, in 1963, this was the
tallest building in Mexico City.
509
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:41,209
The one thing that really
strikes me,
510
00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:42,207
and I'm sure it hasn't changed
that much,
511
00:24:42,248 --> 00:24:44,118
is the volume of people here.
512
00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:46,190
Even in our major cities like
New York,
513
00:24:46,218 --> 00:24:48,288
we're just not gonna see
this type of volume of people.
514
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,720
It's more similar to, like, in
India or Bombay or something.
515
00:24:51,758 --> 00:24:54,828
What do you think in terms of a
meet location?
516
00:24:54,861 --> 00:24:58,161
- Big crowds are an excellent
place to be able to lose people,
517
00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:01,027
get lost in the crowd, be able
to duck in and out of alleyways.
518
00:25:01,067 --> 00:25:02,597
You want to be in a place where
you can make a quick
519
00:25:02,635 --> 00:25:04,965
escape if you need.
520
00:25:05,004 --> 00:25:06,544
The tall buildings like this are
exactly
521
00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:07,943
what you don't want around.
522
00:25:07,974 --> 00:25:10,684
[tense music]
523
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:12,180
They had long lenses back then.
524
00:25:12,211 --> 00:25:14,111
You could put multiple people up
in these buildings
525
00:25:14,146 --> 00:25:15,676
with a long lens, and they're
gonna take
526
00:25:15,715 --> 00:25:17,115
all the pictures they want.
527
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:18,919
narrator: Outside El Torre
Latino,
528
00:25:18,951 --> 00:25:20,851
there
are no distinct meeting spots
529
00:25:20,887 --> 00:25:22,617
on
the chaotic sidewalks
530
00:25:22,655 --> 00:25:25,885
for KGB
agents to intercept Oswald.
531
00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:29,825
Inside the building, CIA agents
could easily surround them
532
00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:33,932
and monitor conversations from
neighboring structures.
533
00:25:33,966 --> 00:25:35,736
- This is not what I'm looking
for if I'm setting up
534
00:25:35,768 --> 00:25:39,038
a meeting like that.
535
00:25:39,071 --> 00:25:42,141
narrator: The last potential
site of Oswald's covert meeting
536
00:25:42,174 --> 00:25:45,754
with the Soviet KGB,
537
00:25:45,778 --> 00:25:47,848
the Plaza de Toros
Mexico,
538
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,650
the world's largest
bullring.
539
00:25:55,354 --> 00:25:57,694
- And when you get a ticket, do
you actually get the number
540
00:25:57,724 --> 00:25:59,364
of the row you have to sit on?
541
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:00,831
- Yes, you do.
542
00:26:04,931 --> 00:26:06,201
- This looks amazing.
543
00:26:06,232 --> 00:26:09,202
[tense music]
544
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:10,765
*
545
00:26:10,803 --> 00:26:12,813
This looks really, really
interesting.
546
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:17,339
*
547
00:26:17,376 --> 00:26:19,276
Wow.
Look at this place.
548
00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:22,721
*
549
00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:25,349
This is an ideal location.
550
00:26:25,384 --> 00:26:27,324
narrator: The bullring is the
perfect site
551
00:26:27,353 --> 00:26:30,223
for a secret meeting with the
KGB.
552
00:26:30,256 --> 00:26:35,186
The question remains, was Lee
Harvey Oswald here?
553
00:26:40,967 --> 00:26:45,337
- All of these seats,
and the number of tunnels,
554
00:26:45,371 --> 00:26:48,171
you would never be able to
surveil anybody.
555
00:26:48,207 --> 00:26:49,707
It'd be nearly impossible.
556
00:26:53,179 --> 00:26:56,849
narrator: In Mexico City,
former CIA agent Bob Baer
557
00:26:56,883 --> 00:27:00,293
is investigating the
Plaza de Toros Mexico,
558
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:03,819
a bullring where he suspects
that Lee Harvey Oswald
559
00:27:03,856 --> 00:27:06,126
had a
secret meeting with the KGB
560
00:27:06,158 --> 00:27:09,958
just weeks before the Kennedy
assassination.
561
00:27:09,996 --> 00:27:12,056
*
562
00:27:12,098 --> 00:27:14,898
- If the KGB met with Oswald,
563
00:27:14,934 --> 00:27:17,374
they would have specifically
chosen a meeting location
564
00:27:17,403 --> 00:27:20,813
where they couldn't be watched
by CIA operatives.
565
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,180
This bullring could be perfect.
566
00:27:23,209 --> 00:27:25,379
Did many foreigners come here?
567
00:27:25,411 --> 00:27:29,321
- Yeah, it's kind of a tourist
attraction too.
568
00:27:29,348 --> 00:27:31,248
- So an American showing up,
a gringo...
569
00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:33,093
- He could mingle in easily.
570
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,419
- He could mingle in.
571
00:27:34,453 --> 00:27:36,323
It's a logical place for Oswald
to go.
572
00:27:36,355 --> 00:27:37,915
He's in Mexico City.
573
00:27:37,957 --> 00:27:39,157
"Well, I'll go to the
bullfight."
574
00:27:39,191 --> 00:27:41,031
- Mm-hmm.
575
00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:43,330
- But the other edge of the
sword is,
576
00:27:43,362 --> 00:27:47,232
it's the perfect place to
make an introduction.
577
00:27:47,266 --> 00:27:51,236
If Oswald were given tickets,
578
00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:53,340
he could go to the stadium,
579
00:27:53,372 --> 00:27:57,142
sit in the seat the ticket
indicates,
580
00:27:57,176 --> 00:28:01,346
some guy sits next to him, and
they can sit here and talk.
581
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:03,880
It's foolproof.
- Mm-hmm.
582
00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:07,916
- This would be a classic KGB
operation.
583
00:28:07,954 --> 00:28:11,394
Of all the locations in the
four postcards,
584
00:28:11,423 --> 00:28:15,393
the only one that makes sense
to me is the bullring.
585
00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:18,497
The other three were probably
decoys.
586
00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:21,470
The KGB would never risk
putting Oswald
587
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:25,070
in a meeting outside of the
embassy in the other locations.
588
00:28:25,104 --> 00:28:27,314
*
589
00:28:27,339 --> 00:28:30,179
This is what it boils down to.
590
00:28:30,209 --> 00:28:32,339
It's gonna do you no good to
come here and meet
591
00:28:32,378 --> 00:28:34,278
with nobody in the stadium.
592
00:28:34,313 --> 00:28:38,283
What we need is to determine
whether there was a bullfight
593
00:28:38,317 --> 00:28:41,147
when Oswald was here,
because if there was
594
00:28:41,187 --> 00:28:43,087
no bullfight, there
was no meeting.
595
00:28:43,122 --> 00:28:46,192
[dramatic music]
596
00:28:46,225 --> 00:28:49,095
Do you think there are records
of this here?
597
00:28:49,128 --> 00:28:51,198
- Yeah, it's car copy.
598
00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:54,000
narrator: Bob and Eric make
contact with Jorge Sanchez
599
00:28:54,033 --> 00:28:56,143
at the National Archive
600
00:28:56,168 --> 00:29:00,338
to examine bullfighting records
from Oswald's six-day trip
601
00:29:00,372 --> 00:29:03,282
to Mexico City between
September 27th
602
00:29:03,309 --> 00:29:07,049
and October 2, 1963.
603
00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:11,348
Yeah, this looks like the right
dates.
604
00:29:11,383 --> 00:29:14,223
[suspenseful music]
605
00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:20,863
*
606
00:29:20,893 --> 00:29:22,763
Oh...
607
00:29:35,842 --> 00:29:38,082
- Yeah.
- Same as the card.
608
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,020
- For me, this is key.
609
00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:47,119
Oswald goes into the Russian
embassy on the 28th,
610
00:29:47,153 --> 00:29:50,893
he ends up with a postcard of
the bullfighting ring,
611
00:29:50,923 --> 00:29:53,933
and then the exact next day,
there's a bullfight.
612
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960
You just start adding this stuff
up.
613
00:29:56,996 --> 00:29:59,996
Every piece of evidence we have
614
00:30:00,032 --> 00:30:04,072
points to an iron meeting at
this stadium.
615
00:30:04,103 --> 00:30:07,013
*
616
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,339
We checked the archives, and
there was a bullfight
617
00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:11,105
during Oswald's visit.
618
00:30:11,143 --> 00:30:13,913
I mean, this is kind of
tradecraft
619
00:30:13,946 --> 00:30:15,876
that the KGB is known for.
620
00:30:15,915 --> 00:30:19,515
- This place offers what none of
those other places did
621
00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:22,621
narrator: Bob Baer reunites
with former police lieutenant
622
00:30:22,654 --> 00:30:26,934
Adam Bercovici and former army
ranger Marty Skovlund
623
00:30:26,959 --> 00:30:29,359
to pressure test the team's
working theory
624
00:30:29,395 --> 00:30:32,525
that Lee Harvey Oswald met with
KGB operatives
625
00:30:32,564 --> 00:30:34,904
at the Plaza de Toros Mexico
626
00:30:34,934 --> 00:30:38,474
to avoid detection by the CIA.
627
00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:40,514
- Okay, here is what I want to
do.
628
00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:43,509
I'm gonna run a little test
here, play a little spy game.
629
00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:46,512
I want to show you how a meeting
can take place there
630
00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:49,975
right under your nose, and you
don't see it.
631
00:30:50,016 --> 00:30:52,986
I'm gonna go in there, and I'm
gonna meet up with our fixer,
632
00:30:53,019 --> 00:30:57,459
Eric, and I want to see how hard
it is for you guys
633
00:30:57,489 --> 00:30:59,929
to keep track of me in there.
634
00:30:59,959 --> 00:31:02,059
The only way how to figure out
how these things work
635
00:31:02,094 --> 00:31:03,304
is to test them.
636
00:31:03,329 --> 00:31:05,629
[dramatic music]
637
00:31:05,664 --> 00:31:08,174
narrator: To simulate the role
of Oswald,
638
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,140
Bob will proceed into the
stadium alone
639
00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:13,210
in an attempt to
meet undetected
640
00:31:13,239 --> 00:31:15,339
with a KGB operative
641
00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:19,084
played by the team's local
investigator Eric Ceballos.
642
00:31:19,111 --> 00:31:21,081
*
643
00:31:21,113 --> 00:31:24,023
With Eric in position and Bob
on the move,
644
00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:27,020
Adam and Marty set out
to track them down,
645
00:31:27,053 --> 00:31:30,963
simulating CIA surveillance of
Russian activity.
646
00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:33,630
This test should have been done
50 years ago.
647
00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:37,259
This the kind of detail that you
really need to get into,
648
00:31:37,296 --> 00:31:38,396
because it's something the
Warren Commission
649
00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:40,130
never looked at.
650
00:31:40,166 --> 00:31:42,226
They never went to the
bullfighting stadium.
651
00:31:42,268 --> 00:31:45,268
They just dismissed the
evidence.
652
00:31:45,304 --> 00:31:47,714
If I manage to evade their
surveillance
653
00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:50,539
and make my secret meeting,
we'll be one step closer
654
00:31:50,576 --> 00:31:53,146
to proving that the Russians
could have been
655
00:31:53,179 --> 00:31:55,379
involved in the
assassination.
656
00:31:55,414 --> 00:31:57,984
[cheers and applause]
657
00:32:01,353 --> 00:32:03,293
- [speaking Spanish]
658
00:32:03,322 --> 00:32:05,522
- I'm about seven rows up, and I
don't see him anywhere.
659
00:32:05,557 --> 00:32:07,257
Over.
660
00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:10,203
- Roger that.
I'm headed towards seven.
661
00:32:10,229 --> 00:32:11,429
I'm gonna go ahead and see if
I can take a look down there,
662
00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:13,433
see what I can see.
663
00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:17,265
narrator: In 1963,
approximately 40,000 people
664
00:32:17,303 --> 00:32:20,343
attended fights
at the Plaza de Toros Mexico,
665
00:32:20,372 --> 00:32:23,212
filling more than three tiers
of seating.
666
00:32:23,242 --> 00:32:26,582
2 main entrances and more than
20 interior tunnels
667
00:32:26,612 --> 00:32:28,982
create a labyrinth of
concourses
668
00:32:29,015 --> 00:32:32,145
within the concrete structure.
669
00:32:32,184 --> 00:32:36,594
Tonight there are approximately
10,000 people in attendance.
670
00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:39,462
*
671
00:32:39,491 --> 00:32:41,591
- A big part of my career was
involved
672
00:32:41,627 --> 00:32:44,157
in the surveillance world
surveilling some of the worst
673
00:32:44,196 --> 00:32:46,326
criminals on the streets of Los
Angeles.
674
00:32:46,365 --> 00:32:48,625
It is one of the hardest things
to do.
675
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:51,167
It's not like the movies where
you're locked up behind them.
676
00:32:51,203 --> 00:32:54,543
It is a hunt.
677
00:32:54,573 --> 00:32:56,313
narrator: The manhunt begins.
678
00:32:56,342 --> 00:32:58,042
- I'm moving over to the next
tunnel, over.
679
00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:00,077
narrator: And the team will
soon find out
680
00:33:00,112 --> 00:33:03,122
if Lee Harvey Oswald could have
met undetected
681
00:33:03,149 --> 00:33:07,149
with America's
most dangerous enemy.
682
00:33:11,157 --> 00:33:15,127
- In 1963, the Soviets were our
main enemy.
683
00:33:15,161 --> 00:33:17,561
Oswald meeting with a KGB
officer
684
00:33:17,596 --> 00:33:21,096
would be like someone meeting
with a member of ISIS today.
685
00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:22,533
[tense music]
686
00:33:22,568 --> 00:33:24,638
narrator: Bob plays the role of
Oswald,
687
00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:27,740
attempting to meet undetected
with a KGB operative
688
00:33:27,773 --> 00:33:30,343
played by
local investigator Eric.
689
00:33:30,376 --> 00:33:32,776
Adam and Marty set out to track
them down,
690
00:33:32,811 --> 00:33:37,821
simulating CIA operatives
spying on the Russians.
691
00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:40,449
- All right, Adam, I think I've
got Bob over here
692
00:33:40,486 --> 00:33:45,216
between sections one and seven.
693
00:33:45,257 --> 00:33:46,827
- That's gonna be a negative.
That is not Bob.
694
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:49,558
That is not our target.
Copy.
695
00:33:49,595 --> 00:33:50,825
- All right, we need to figure
out where he is.
696
00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:52,432
We're running out of time.
697
00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:56,104
*
698
00:33:56,135 --> 00:33:58,135
[cheers and applause]
699
00:33:58,170 --> 00:34:00,540
- I've got about two sections to
clear.
700
00:34:00,572 --> 00:34:03,782
Gonna do nine and ten, then just
take a look down
701
00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:05,509
towards the center of the
stadium.
702
00:34:05,544 --> 00:34:06,654
- Roger.
703
00:34:06,678 --> 00:34:10,578
*
704
00:34:10,616 --> 00:34:12,546
There's a lot of people here.
705
00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:14,124
This is a little bit more
difficult than I was expecting.
706
00:34:14,153 --> 00:34:17,563
*
707
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:20,329
A stadium's a big place, even
for a trained person.
708
00:34:20,359 --> 00:34:22,759
This presents a lot of
challenges.
709
00:34:22,794 --> 00:34:24,534
In today's day and age, we've
got a lot of technology
710
00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:27,133
that aids this.
711
00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:28,666
But we're kind of putting
ourselves back
712
00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:30,870
in the 1960s here,
so it becomes physically
713
00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:34,742
very difficult to conduct a
thorough reconnaissance
714
00:34:34,773 --> 00:34:36,443
of this area and
tail somebody.
715
00:34:36,475 --> 00:34:41,275
[phone rings]
716
00:34:41,313 --> 00:34:43,753
- Hey, Bob, what's up?
717
00:34:43,782 --> 00:34:45,682
- Hey, Adam, Marty.
718
00:34:49,221 --> 00:34:51,321
- Negative, we did not,
negative, we did not.
719
00:34:52,791 --> 00:34:53,861
- No, we did not see you.
720
00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:55,762
- Thought so.
721
00:34:58,464 --> 00:35:01,274
It's too hard to pick up
anybody in here.
722
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:02,830
*
723
00:35:02,868 --> 00:35:04,798
- The stadium wasn't full
tonight,
724
00:35:04,836 --> 00:35:07,666
but it would have been back in
1963,
725
00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:10,776
and surveillance would have
been even more challenging.
726
00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:14,209
The result of this operation has
a huge impact on this case.
727
00:35:14,246 --> 00:35:15,746
*
728
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:18,651
In my mind,
it proves that Oswald
729
00:35:18,684 --> 00:35:21,654
could have met with the
Russians undetected.
730
00:35:21,687 --> 00:35:23,517
But this is just the beginning.
731
00:35:23,555 --> 00:35:26,725
We need to dig back in the files
and find the smoking gun.
732
00:35:35,534 --> 00:35:38,704
Question is, if he did go to the
stadium
733
00:35:38,737 --> 00:35:40,567
to meet somebody, who
was it?
734
00:35:40,606 --> 00:35:44,176
- [silently]
- What do we have here?
735
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:48,850
Oswald...
put the dates in there.
736
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,250
Do you see any name that pops up
737
00:35:51,283 --> 00:35:55,693
from the Warren Commission
records?
738
00:35:55,721 --> 00:36:00,291
There we go, Mexico City,
Oswald meeting Soviet Union.
739
00:36:00,326 --> 00:36:02,386
You've got a letter from Lee
Harvey Oswald
740
00:36:02,428 --> 00:36:05,358
to Russian embassy in
Washington, D.C.
741
00:36:05,397 --> 00:36:08,627
"This is to inform you of recent
events since my meeting with
742
00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:11,267
"Comrade Kostin in the embassy
743
00:36:11,303 --> 00:36:13,743
of the Soviet Union in Mexico
City."
744
00:36:13,772 --> 00:36:14,812
- Who's Kostin?
745
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,410
- I don't know.
746
00:36:16,442 --> 00:36:19,352
When I used to meet walk-ins in
embassies,
747
00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:21,248
I never gave them my true name.
748
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,620
Let's strip all the parameters
out,
749
00:36:23,649 --> 00:36:27,949
except Kostin, and let's just
see if there's
750
00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:31,756
a Russian in Mexico City with a
variation of Kostin.
751
00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:34,190
- Let's see what we've got.
Here we go.
752
00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:39,468
- Um...what do we have here?
753
00:36:39,498 --> 00:36:41,298
Look at this.
754
00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:44,273
"Information developed by CIA on
activity
755
00:36:44,303 --> 00:36:47,813
"of Lee Harvey Oswald in
Mexico City.
756
00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:52,279
"There is no official of the
Soviet embassy in Mexico City
757
00:36:52,311 --> 00:36:57,251
with a name resembling Kostin,
other than Consul Kostikov."
758
00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:02,718
"There is firm evidence for the
conclusion that Kostikov
759
00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:07,594
is a Soviet State Security
officer, KGB."
760
00:37:07,626 --> 00:37:09,256
Change the search, Kostikov.
761
00:37:09,295 --> 00:37:12,025
[tense music]
762
00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:15,373
*
763
00:37:15,401 --> 00:37:18,041
Okay, here we go.
"Contact of Lee Harvey Oswald
764
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:20,909
"with a member of the Soviet
KGB.
765
00:37:20,939 --> 00:37:24,579
"Kostikov is an identified KGB
officer.
766
00:37:24,610 --> 00:37:27,510
"He was a case officer in an
operation
767
00:37:27,546 --> 00:37:32,576
"which is evidently sponsored by
the KGB's 13th Department,
768
00:37:32,618 --> 00:37:36,388
responsible for
sabotage and assassination."
769
00:37:36,422 --> 00:37:38,922
- I mean, I don't know how much
clearer it gets than that.
770
00:37:38,957 --> 00:37:43,357
- I've been entrenched in the
JFK assassination for decades,
771
00:37:43,395 --> 00:37:46,795
and I've learned not to come to
conclusions too quickly.
772
00:37:46,832 --> 00:37:50,842
But the fact that the head of
the KGB's assassination squad
773
00:37:50,869 --> 00:37:54,439
was in Mexico City at the same
time as Oswald
774
00:37:54,473 --> 00:37:56,843
is something that I have to take
seriously.
775
00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:58,335
I don't believe that's a
coincidence.
776
00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:10,957
- What are the chances of Oswald
going to Mexico City,
777
00:38:10,989 --> 00:38:14,489
getting to see the KGB, which is
not an easy thing to do,
778
00:38:14,526 --> 00:38:17,396
and then ending up with the guy
in charge
779
00:38:17,429 --> 00:38:20,569
of assassinations for North
America?
780
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,899
This is one of these
coincidences
781
00:38:22,934 --> 00:38:26,374
that I don't think
is a coincidence.
782
00:38:26,405 --> 00:38:28,665
narrator: Department 13 was
reputed to be
783
00:38:28,707 --> 00:38:32,077
the Soviet KGB's assassination
squad.
784
00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:35,950
Reportedly handling operations
known as "liquid affairs,"
785
00:38:35,981 --> 00:38:38,881
the department
utilized untraceable poisons,
786
00:38:38,917 --> 00:38:43,417
car bombings, and abductions to
achieve their goals.
787
00:38:43,455 --> 00:38:46,455
Valery Kostikov publicly worked
as a diplomat
788
00:38:46,492 --> 00:38:48,892
at the Soviet embassy in Mexico
City.
789
00:38:48,927 --> 00:38:51,357
But CIA documents reveal
790
00:38:51,397 --> 00:38:56,397
he also covertly headed this
notorious section of the KGB.
791
00:38:56,435 --> 00:38:58,735
- What we don't have is an
explanation
792
00:38:58,770 --> 00:39:01,870
of why Kostikov
agreed to meet with Oswald.
793
00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:06,447
Why did the CIA not reveal this
to the Warren Commission?
794
00:39:06,478 --> 00:39:09,478
This is either colossal
incompetence
795
00:39:09,515 --> 00:39:12,515
or an organized cover-up.
796
00:39:12,551 --> 00:39:14,521
This whole thing is very
suspect.
797
00:39:14,553 --> 00:39:16,563
There's some sort of
relationship
798
00:39:16,588 --> 00:39:19,988
which was established from
Oswald's time in Moscow.
799
00:39:20,025 --> 00:39:22,155
I want to find out what that
relationship is.
800
00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,603
And that's why I need to get to
Moscow
801
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:26,630
to get their version of events.
802
00:39:26,665 --> 00:39:30,495
This is evidence like we've
never seen before.
803
00:39:30,536 --> 00:39:33,066
Wars have been started with less
evidence.
804
00:39:33,104 --> 00:39:37,844
Somebody in Russia knows exactly
what Oswald's connections
805
00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:39,076
with the KGB were.
806
00:39:43,114 --> 00:39:46,124
narrator: This season on
"Tracking Oswald"...
807
00:39:46,151 --> 00:39:48,721
- It was a strategy of Oswald.
808
00:39:48,754 --> 00:39:51,024
- The Warren Commission never
came to Russia
809
00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:53,526
to investigate this
for themselves.
810
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:59,029
- My first meeting with him was
27 of September.
811
00:39:59,064 --> 00:40:02,734
- Two months before he
assassinated Kennedy.
812
00:40:02,768 --> 00:40:04,138
We just want to come in and talk
for a few minutes.
813
00:40:05,937 --> 00:40:07,467
- Shooter ready.
814
00:40:07,506 --> 00:40:08,536
- Send it.
815
00:40:08,574 --> 00:40:09,914
[gunshot]
816
00:40:09,941 --> 00:40:12,181
- Sometimes clues are left
behind.
817
00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:14,680
Most people don't know he tried
to commit suicide.
818
00:40:14,713 --> 00:40:17,483
This is the first time you've
ever spoken on camera?
819
00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:23,488
- This is all being covertly
done right in our backyard.
820
00:40:23,522 --> 00:40:24,992
That's pretty shocking.
821
00:40:25,023 --> 00:40:27,133
People were out here training.
822
00:40:27,158 --> 00:40:29,088
- The pieces are starting to
come together.
823
00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:31,797
- Every piece of evidence we've
been following has led to this.
824
00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:35,100
- Five minutes down the road is
a sleeper cell.
825
00:40:35,133 --> 00:40:36,973
He had accomplices.
826
00:40:37,002 --> 00:40:39,142
[dramatic music]
827
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:42,110
- Sometimes you can be eaten by
your
828
00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:44,140
own monster that you created.
829
00:40:44,175 --> 00:40:47,775
- Oswald headed out saying, "I'm
going to kill Kennedy for this."
830
00:40:47,813 --> 00:40:51,483
This memo is signed
by J. Edgar Hoover.
831
00:40:51,517 --> 00:40:53,177
Hoover is saying, "I believe
this."
832
00:40:53,218 --> 00:40:55,788
This document could finally
reveal
833
00:40:55,821 --> 00:40:58,221
Oswald's motive for the
assassination
834
00:40:58,256 --> 00:40:59,986
of John F. Kennedy.
835
00:41:00,025 --> 00:41:01,155
- Holy [bleep].
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