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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,819 --> 00:00:32,573 The following is an interpretation of events based on.. 2 00:00:32,573 --> 00:00:36,326 Baniszewski v. The State of Indiana, 1966. 3 00:00:36,326 --> 00:00:42,207 All testimonies comes from court transcripts. 4 00:00:49,256 --> 00:00:52,134 I used to love the carnival. 5 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:56,722 Daddy worked all the fairs selling pretzel’s... 6 00:00:56,722 --> 00:00:58,974 and candy apple. 7 00:00:59,266 --> 00:01:02,144 Always looking for something better. 8 00:01:02,936 --> 00:01:05,814 Sometimes mama would follow him... 9 00:01:06,065 --> 00:01:09,151 sometimes he even take us. 10 00:01:09,943 --> 00:01:11,695 It was always a new adventure... 11 00:01:11,695 --> 00:01:14,615 with a whole new family, every time. 12 00:01:14,907 --> 00:01:16,283 I figured Jennie and me, were... 13 00:01:16,283 --> 00:01:20,162 the luckiest girls in the world. with a life like that. 14 00:01:20,746 --> 00:01:23,791 My favorite was the merry-go-round... 15 00:01:24,249 --> 00:01:27,252 Maybe I was a little old for it, but... 16 00:01:27,252 --> 00:01:30,881 all those other rides they scared me. 17 00:01:35,219 --> 00:01:39,973 The merry-go-round, just goes round and round, and up and down. 18 00:01:42,601 --> 00:01:46,563 It don't go anywhere, but I always felt save. 19 00:02:05,791 --> 00:02:09,003 That's me on the left. 20 00:02:09,461 --> 00:02:11,380 Sylvia. 21 00:02:11,839 --> 00:02:14,466 And that's my story. 22 00:02:28,814 --> 00:02:31,567 I'm a Prostitute and proud of it. 23 00:02:52,713 --> 00:02:54,965 Would you please state your name. 24 00:02:55,215 --> 00:02:56,925 Lester Likens. 25 00:02:56,925 --> 00:02:59,303 Are you married to Betty Likens? 26 00:02:59,303 --> 00:03:00,971 Yes. 27 00:03:00,971 --> 00:03:03,932 Did you and your wife ever separate? 28 00:03:03,932 --> 00:03:05,559 Yes. 29 00:03:05,559 --> 00:03:08,479 What period of time did that occur? 30 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:12,191 The last week in June 1965. 31 00:03:12,191 --> 00:03:16,362 She was at Euclid street, and I was in Lebanon, Indiana. 32 00:03:16,362 --> 00:03:18,364 Where were the children? 33 00:03:18,364 --> 00:03:22,076 Jennie Faye and Silvia Marie was with her. 34 00:03:27,289 --> 00:03:29,375 Do you think, we'll make new friends? 35 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:31,251 Sure we will. 36 00:03:31,251 --> 00:03:34,046 Well, maybe there'll be some cute boys this time. 37 00:03:34,046 --> 00:03:35,589 They're supposed to be cute. 38 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:39,176 Come on girls, you don't wanna be late now for church. 39 00:03:40,803 --> 00:03:42,221 Hey! 40 00:03:42,221 --> 00:03:43,472 Daddy? 41 00:03:43,472 --> 00:03:45,933 - Hey, Jennie. - What're you doing here? 42 00:03:45,933 --> 00:03:48,227 Well, I missed you girls. 43 00:03:48,310 --> 00:03:51,105 Hi Betty, can I talk to for a minute? 44 00:03:52,690 --> 00:03:55,609 You know, I've been talking to a Horst and he says... 45 00:03:55,609 --> 00:03:58,362 that we could maybe play our own band at the state-fair this year. 46 00:03:58,362 --> 00:04:00,030 Then maybe we could make enough money to go on tour. 47 00:04:00,030 --> 00:04:02,074 I told Lester, that I can't do it anymore... 48 00:04:02,074 --> 00:04:03,575 not with the girls. 49 00:04:03,575 --> 00:04:05,744 Maybe my mother will take them. 50 00:04:05,744 --> 00:04:07,913 I can't move them up there again. 51 00:04:07,913 --> 00:04:10,916 They haven't even had a chance to make friends down here yet. 52 00:04:10,916 --> 00:04:14,920 Betty, maybe we wouldn't fight as much, without the kids. 53 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,588 Mama? 54 00:04:16,922 --> 00:04:20,050 You two, go on ahead and catch the church bus home. 55 00:04:20,050 --> 00:04:22,928 I've gotta settle things with your father. 56 00:04:30,352 --> 00:04:33,856 See what love the father has given us... 57 00:04:33,856 --> 00:04:37,276 and we are called children of god. 58 00:04:38,652 --> 00:04:41,071 And so we are! 59 00:04:41,071 --> 00:04:44,199 But how does a child, come on to his father? 60 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:47,619 How does the father, come on to the child? 61 00:04:47,911 --> 00:04:51,540 Christ said: I am the way. The truth, the live and love. 62 00:04:51,540 --> 00:04:56,128 Come on to the father, but by me. 63 00:04:56,295 --> 00:05:00,632 Our families, our fathers, our mothers. 64 00:05:01,050 --> 00:05:04,636 It is only through Christ, that we find our father. 65 00:05:04,636 --> 00:05:08,015 And it's only through Christ, that we find each other. 66 00:05:16,231 --> 00:05:18,567 Oh, that's a beautiful dress, Hope. 67 00:05:18,567 --> 00:05:20,527 Oh, thank you, Gertrude. 68 00:05:21,111 --> 00:05:24,239 And huh... I'm feeling much better, with my new medicine... 69 00:05:24,239 --> 00:05:27,201 and... you know anybody, that needs ironing to be done... 70 00:05:27,201 --> 00:05:28,869 I'd appreciate the work. 71 00:05:28,869 --> 00:05:30,496 I'll do that. 72 00:05:30,621 --> 00:05:32,581 Thank you. 73 00:05:39,588 --> 00:05:41,173 What happened to your leg? 74 00:05:41,173 --> 00:05:43,092 That's not nice, Shirley! 75 00:05:43,092 --> 00:05:45,427 That's alright, she's used to it. 76 00:05:45,427 --> 00:05:48,097 - So what is it? - Polio. 77 00:05:48,722 --> 00:05:50,557 Polio? 78 00:05:50,557 --> 00:05:52,434 Does that hurt? 79 00:05:52,935 --> 00:05:54,937 Our mama is a sick too. 80 00:05:55,979 --> 00:05:57,773 All right girls! 81 00:05:58,607 --> 00:06:00,109 We gotta go. 82 00:06:00,109 --> 00:06:02,069 Can they come with us? 83 00:06:02,486 --> 00:06:04,780 You wanna come? We've got some friends coming over... 84 00:06:04,780 --> 00:06:07,825 and you can meet our older sister. 85 00:06:07,825 --> 00:06:09,827 - Let's do. - Sure! 86 00:06:25,551 --> 00:06:28,137 Guess who got stuck with an extra shift at work? 87 00:06:28,137 --> 00:06:29,805 - Did you get paid? - Mm'hm. 88 00:06:29,805 --> 00:06:32,224 Got a little extra for dinner. 89 00:06:32,224 --> 00:06:34,059 Here, take the baby. 90 00:06:34,059 --> 00:06:35,978 Where'd they come from? 91 00:06:36,645 --> 00:06:37,813 What's this? 92 00:06:37,813 --> 00:06:40,482 We invited them to stay and play. 93 00:06:40,482 --> 00:06:42,443 We'll be quiet. 94 00:06:42,443 --> 00:06:44,695 All right, make sure of it. 95 00:06:48,157 --> 00:06:50,409 I really like this song. 96 00:06:51,076 --> 00:06:52,494 What's your dad do? 97 00:06:52,494 --> 00:06:54,496 He is cop, they are divorced. 98 00:06:54,496 --> 00:06:55,706 Do you miss him any? 99 00:06:55,706 --> 00:06:57,374 Nah, I just miss his money. 100 00:06:57,374 --> 00:06:59,460 - But, Paula! - Well, it's true. 101 00:06:59,460 --> 00:07:01,420 Maybe, if he's more regular with his support... 102 00:07:01,420 --> 00:07:02,963 Mom wouldn't be so sick... 103 00:07:02,963 --> 00:07:04,965 and I wouldn't have to work so hard. 104 00:07:04,965 --> 00:07:06,842 Little Kenny's got a different daddy. 105 00:07:06,842 --> 00:07:08,802 - Who's little Kenny? - The baby. 106 00:07:08,802 --> 00:07:10,846 But we ain't supposed to talk about that. 107 00:07:10,846 --> 00:07:12,473 Auh! 108 00:07:13,557 --> 00:07:14,808 Finished! 109 00:07:14,808 --> 00:07:16,810 Wow! You should do this for a living. 110 00:07:16,810 --> 00:07:18,562 Yeah, if she was old enough. 111 00:07:18,562 --> 00:07:20,022 You want me to do yours? 112 00:07:20,022 --> 00:07:21,607 Oh, no, thanks. 113 00:07:21,607 --> 00:07:23,150 Yeah, she's the pretty one. 114 00:07:23,150 --> 00:07:25,361 Yeah, she's got nice hair. 115 00:07:25,361 --> 00:07:27,654 - I'm pretty too. - The hell you are! 116 00:07:27,654 --> 00:07:29,823 Oh, let me see that brush. 117 00:07:29,823 --> 00:07:32,826 I tell you what? Let's go get a coke. 118 00:07:32,826 --> 00:07:35,996 My boyfriend works over at the liquor store, get him to buy a couple. 119 00:07:35,996 --> 00:07:37,664 Sure. 120 00:07:37,664 --> 00:07:39,792 You girls behave! 121 00:07:40,542 --> 00:07:42,586 We're goin' to groceries. 122 00:07:42,586 --> 00:07:44,963 Tell Andy, he owes me for little Kenny! 123 00:07:44,963 --> 00:07:46,757 And don't be waistin' time on that bag-boy. 124 00:07:46,757 --> 00:07:48,550 He ain't a bag-boy, Mama! 125 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:50,803 Sort of wasted space. 126 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:54,139 - She don't like my boyfriend. - Yeah, I can see that. 127 00:07:54,139 --> 00:07:56,392 Hey, Johnny, quit it! 128 00:07:56,684 --> 00:07:58,769 Sorry, Mrs. Doyle. 129 00:07:59,853 --> 00:08:00,979 Hey! 130 00:08:01,021 --> 00:08:02,272 You weren't at church today. 131 00:08:02,314 --> 00:08:03,649 Coy and I headin' over there now. 132 00:08:03,691 --> 00:08:05,317 Yeah, you better be. 133 00:08:05,526 --> 00:08:07,403 Let's get outta here. 134 00:08:07,820 --> 00:08:10,197 That's my sister Stephanie, she's big help around the house... 135 00:08:10,239 --> 00:08:12,783 when she ain't wasting time with her boyfriend Coy. 136 00:08:14,368 --> 00:08:16,328 Oh, God. 137 00:08:16,620 --> 00:08:17,996 Hey, Paula. 138 00:08:18,038 --> 00:08:19,790 Mama was asking you for her money. 139 00:08:19,832 --> 00:08:21,458 I bet she was. 140 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:22,918 Who's your friend? 141 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,463 Sylvia, but she don't talk to trash. 142 00:08:26,505 --> 00:08:27,631 Excuse me. 143 00:08:27,673 --> 00:08:29,425 That's my mama's ex boyfriend. 144 00:08:29,466 --> 00:08:32,136 He's only 6 years older than me. 145 00:08:33,387 --> 00:08:35,514 Just like her mom. 146 00:08:38,392 --> 00:08:40,102 That's him. 147 00:08:40,102 --> 00:08:42,229 That's my Bradley. 148 00:08:42,688 --> 00:08:45,065 He's real cute. 149 00:08:46,692 --> 00:08:49,403 We got both to be real careful about it. 150 00:08:49,403 --> 00:08:51,280 Why? 151 00:08:51,697 --> 00:08:53,490 Because he's married. 152 00:08:55,034 --> 00:08:57,995 I'm not even shittin' you, no! 153 00:08:57,995 --> 00:08:59,705 Paula! 154 00:09:00,664 --> 00:09:03,167 Don't tell me you never had a boyfriend. 155 00:09:03,792 --> 00:09:08,130 Ah, well, there was this guy in California, but... 156 00:09:08,964 --> 00:09:10,716 I guess it was nothing. 157 00:09:10,716 --> 00:09:13,344 Well, at least you did more than just kiss, huh? 158 00:09:15,095 --> 00:09:18,015 Well, aren't you just so damn pure. 159 00:09:18,015 --> 00:09:20,184 Oh, come on. 160 00:09:23,604 --> 00:09:25,230 Let's go! 161 00:09:26,774 --> 00:09:30,444 This is Pleiku, 250 miles north of Saigon. 162 00:09:30,444 --> 00:09:31,862 The Air Force Base, that was threatened... 163 00:09:31,862 --> 00:09:34,281 by Communist Guerillas... 164 00:09:50,255 --> 00:09:51,799 Marie! 165 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:53,592 I need you to feed little Kenny. 166 00:09:53,592 --> 00:09:57,221 If I don't get this ironing to Mrs. Duke by four, I wont get a tip. 167 00:09:57,221 --> 00:09:59,348 - We're all out of milk. - Well, then get some. 168 00:09:59,348 --> 00:10:01,392 They wont give us no more credit at the store. 169 00:10:01,392 --> 00:10:03,769 They will, if you take the baby. 170 00:10:03,852 --> 00:10:05,437 Hello! 171 00:10:05,437 --> 00:10:07,314 Oh, hi, I'm sorry. 172 00:10:07,314 --> 00:10:09,983 Huh, somebody said they saw my girls here. 173 00:10:10,776 --> 00:10:13,153 You got no family here in Indy? 174 00:10:13,153 --> 00:10:16,407 Well, not that I could leave'm with. 175 00:10:16,990 --> 00:10:19,326 'Cause of them or you? 176 00:10:19,326 --> 00:10:21,412 A little of both. 177 00:10:22,121 --> 00:10:24,498 Hi, Mrs. Baniszewski, is Shirley and Marie here? 178 00:10:24,498 --> 00:10:25,874 Upstairs. 179 00:10:25,874 --> 00:10:27,876 Shut the door! 180 00:10:30,713 --> 00:10:34,049 Looks like, you've got kids running in and outta here, all day long. 181 00:10:38,846 --> 00:10:42,266 Why don't you leave Sylvia and Jenny, here with me? 182 00:10:44,727 --> 00:10:47,021 No, I... I couldn't do that. 183 00:10:47,021 --> 00:10:50,441 I got six kids, two more wont make a difference. 184 00:10:50,441 --> 00:10:53,068 Yeah, I guess that's true. 185 00:10:58,991 --> 00:11:02,494 20 dollars a week and you don't have to worry. 186 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,417 You'd be helping me out too. 187 00:11:08,709 --> 00:11:11,837 I could talk to my wife about it. 188 00:11:15,090 --> 00:11:17,926 Something to consider. 189 00:11:18,427 --> 00:11:20,012 Ah-ha... 190 00:11:21,847 --> 00:11:25,934 So, you'd never met Gertrude Baniszewski before that day? 191 00:11:25,934 --> 00:11:27,686 No, Sir. 192 00:11:27,686 --> 00:11:31,440 But, you were willing to leave your children, with a complete stranger? 193 00:11:32,983 --> 00:11:34,985 Well, like I said, huh... 194 00:11:34,985 --> 00:11:37,321 we got to talking and... 195 00:11:37,321 --> 00:11:40,741 she openly admitted, that she would take care of the children... 196 00:11:40,741 --> 00:11:43,786 and treat them like they were her own. 197 00:11:45,079 --> 00:11:47,373 Okay! Here is 20 now... 198 00:11:47,373 --> 00:11:50,501 and huh... you'll have the next payment in a week, Thursday. 199 00:11:50,501 --> 00:11:52,086 I'll need that money. 200 00:11:52,086 --> 00:11:53,545 You will have it. 201 00:11:53,545 --> 00:11:55,506 Johnny, bring the box upstairs! 202 00:11:55,506 --> 00:11:57,633 Okay, sweetheart, that's real nice. 203 00:11:57,633 --> 00:11:59,593 I sure don't want you go. 204 00:11:59,593 --> 00:12:02,471 The circuit will be down and done, at the end of September. 205 00:12:02,471 --> 00:12:04,098 That's only 2 months. 206 00:12:04,098 --> 00:12:07,476 And I promise, I will be back, and get you girls then. 207 00:12:07,726 --> 00:12:11,188 Okay, kids. Goodbye, Jenny, Cookie. 208 00:12:11,647 --> 00:12:13,440 - You be good! - Okay. 209 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,317 Bye-bye. 210 00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:17,778 Bye. 211 00:12:17,778 --> 00:12:19,822 Bye, girls. 212 00:12:20,864 --> 00:12:23,325 You girls make sure you get everything you need. 213 00:12:23,325 --> 00:12:24,910 Thank you. 214 00:12:25,911 --> 00:12:27,413 Well, come on! 215 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:29,415 We'll help you unpack. 216 00:12:34,294 --> 00:12:36,296 Wait, I'll help you. 217 00:12:55,983 --> 00:12:57,735 Nothing to be nervous about. 218 00:12:57,735 --> 00:13:00,446 Everyone's really nice here. I promise. 219 00:13:00,446 --> 00:13:03,991 Hey, Paula, get your cherry popped, this summer? 220 00:13:03,991 --> 00:13:06,827 You sure didn't, Teddy, not with a face like that. 221 00:13:06,827 --> 00:13:08,704 Hey, come on Paula, you know he's just playing. 222 00:13:08,704 --> 00:13:11,498 So, why don't you play with yourselves? 223 00:13:11,498 --> 00:13:14,126 Coy is okay, but Teddy is a goddamn delinquent. 224 00:13:14,126 --> 00:13:15,294 Paula! 225 00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:18,255 Those guys, they're always messing with somebody. 226 00:13:18,255 --> 00:13:20,299 I'm sure, she will be okay. 227 00:13:20,299 --> 00:13:24,136 - You live with Paula and them? - Yeah, for a bid, I guess. 228 00:13:24,136 --> 00:13:27,556 Yeah, I saw you the other day. 229 00:13:27,848 --> 00:13:30,017 I live right around the corner, I'm Ricky Hobbs. 230 00:13:30,017 --> 00:13:31,352 Sylvia. 231 00:13:31,352 --> 00:13:33,354 Hey, there's a football game this weekend... 232 00:13:33,354 --> 00:13:35,272 if you'd be interested in that at all. 233 00:13:35,272 --> 00:13:37,274 Oh, I don't like that much football. 234 00:13:37,274 --> 00:13:39,276 Sylvia, come on! 235 00:13:39,735 --> 00:13:41,528 Good bye! 236 00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:46,867 It's me! 237 00:13:46,867 --> 00:13:49,078 Hope, you brought my money. 238 00:13:49,078 --> 00:13:51,663 Nice to see you too. 239 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:55,250 Came by to see my baby. 240 00:14:02,299 --> 00:14:03,717 Hi! 241 00:14:03,717 --> 00:14:05,427 Hey! 242 00:14:06,762 --> 00:14:08,430 Leave him! 243 00:14:08,430 --> 00:14:12,810 Well, I got my call-up papers. I have to go to boot-camp soon. 244 00:14:15,521 --> 00:14:17,564 Put him back in. 245 00:14:19,817 --> 00:14:23,112 It took me all day to quiet him. 246 00:14:24,446 --> 00:14:27,366 - Not in front of the baby! - Why? He don't care. 247 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:29,326 I do! 248 00:14:32,329 --> 00:14:35,040 Listen, I'll be getting a paycheck. 249 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,501 So, you'll be getting payments regularly. 250 00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:42,631 Who's gonna take care of you? 251 00:14:44,299 --> 00:14:47,136 Well, actually I was wondering... 252 00:14:47,136 --> 00:14:49,471 if I could borrow a few dollars... 253 00:14:49,471 --> 00:14:53,267 so I could visit my brother in Lebanon, before I leave. 254 00:14:55,853 --> 00:14:58,981 If I had the money, I'd give it to you. 255 00:14:58,981 --> 00:15:00,816 I saw your new boarders. 256 00:15:00,816 --> 00:15:02,693 Don't tell me, you're doing that for charity. 257 00:15:02,693 --> 00:15:04,987 I had to take them in, because of you. 258 00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:06,864 I ain't paying for another man's kids. 259 00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:08,824 You ain't paying for no... 260 00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:15,497 I'm sorry, Gertie. 261 00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:17,875 I'm sorry. 262 00:15:25,841 --> 00:15:28,469 So, how was the first day at school? 263 00:15:28,469 --> 00:15:31,096 Well, I made a couple friends. 264 00:15:31,096 --> 00:15:34,850 See, we're not such bad people, here on the Southside. 265 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:37,853 Can you, pick up the kids and bring'm home? 266 00:15:37,853 --> 00:15:39,480 There's something I have to take care of. 267 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,731 Yeah, is everything alright? 268 00:15:40,731 --> 00:15:43,525 Just tell mama, I picked up an extra shift at work. 269 00:15:43,525 --> 00:15:45,319 Sure. 270 00:15:46,445 --> 00:15:49,823 You know, Paula is looking more and more like you everyday. 271 00:15:50,699 --> 00:15:52,785 Lucky girl. 272 00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:56,622 Should watch her, though. 273 00:15:56,955 --> 00:15:59,875 She's been hanging out with Bradley again. 274 00:16:00,668 --> 00:16:03,087 I hate to think, what'll happen. 275 00:16:03,087 --> 00:16:05,839 His wife's got a bad temper. 276 00:16:13,847 --> 00:16:16,767 You think, that I can get that money? 277 00:16:21,271 --> 00:16:24,274 There's a 20 in the top drawer. 278 00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:46,422 Where do you live Mrs. Doyle? 279 00:16:46,422 --> 00:16:48,590 3848 East New York. 280 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:50,968 You can almost reach out of your dining room window... 281 00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:53,012 and touch Baniszewski's kitchen, can't you? 282 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:54,930 It's not that close. 283 00:16:54,930 --> 00:16:56,974 Because of the experience, that you saw... 284 00:16:56,974 --> 00:16:59,268 Mrs. Baniszewski having there. 285 00:16:59,268 --> 00:17:02,479 Did you develop any bias, or prejudice against her? 286 00:17:02,938 --> 00:17:05,315 No, I felt sorry for the lady. 287 00:17:05,315 --> 00:17:08,360 I felt she was a hard working woman, with all them kids. 288 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:12,072 Ever entertain any guilt feelings, or animosity towards her? 289 00:17:12,614 --> 00:17:14,950 Oh, no, I can't judge her. 290 00:17:14,950 --> 00:17:17,119 I beg your pardon? 291 00:17:17,327 --> 00:17:19,913 I can't judge her. 292 00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:25,294 - Would you like to say prayer, Sylvia? - Sure. 293 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,881 Bless this food we eat, and release... 294 00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:31,091 us from our sins, amen. 295 00:17:31,091 --> 00:17:33,093 Amen! 296 00:17:37,014 --> 00:17:39,641 Somebody get out there, and feed that dog! 297 00:17:39,641 --> 00:17:41,643 Yeah, mama. 298 00:17:46,190 --> 00:17:47,816 Sorry, I'm late. 299 00:17:47,816 --> 00:17:49,735 Where you been? 300 00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:53,238 I took up the shift for Ellen. 301 00:17:54,656 --> 00:17:57,034 I told you, I didn't want you to see that boy anymore. 302 00:17:57,034 --> 00:17:59,036 - and I mean it. - I didn't. 303 00:17:59,036 --> 00:18:01,538 Don't lie to me, Paula. 304 00:18:01,789 --> 00:18:04,792 What? Was he here? Did Andy say something? 305 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,294 - That's none of your business. - Yeah, you just don't want... 306 00:18:07,294 --> 00:18:10,130 me to make the same mistakes, you've made. 307 00:18:18,722 --> 00:18:21,392 I said, feed that dog! 308 00:18:25,479 --> 00:18:27,981 Johnny, feed the dog! 309 00:18:39,993 --> 00:18:42,329 What's wrong, Paula? 310 00:18:44,289 --> 00:18:47,126 I've got problems, Sylvia. 311 00:18:47,876 --> 00:18:50,379 Big problems. 312 00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:55,801 With Bradley? 313 00:19:00,597 --> 00:19:03,809 I went to the doctor, today. 314 00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:08,272 I'm pregnant. 315 00:19:14,403 --> 00:19:16,989 You know the guy is married, 316 00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:18,949 I know, he wouldn't want a baby. 317 00:19:18,949 --> 00:19:22,244 I don't know a damn thing to do. 318 00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:27,458 Well, you... you gotta tell him. 319 00:19:27,708 --> 00:19:29,960 I can't. 320 00:19:30,461 --> 00:19:32,963 Well, I think you gotta. 321 00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:39,678 You gotta promise me, that you wont say anything to anybody. 322 00:19:40,721 --> 00:19:45,309 Not a word, until I figure out what I'm gonna do, okay? 323 00:19:47,061 --> 00:19:49,438 Yeah, I promise. 324 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:55,361 It's gonna be okay. 325 00:20:58,173 --> 00:21:00,092 Mama? 326 00:21:06,432 --> 00:21:08,225 Mama! 327 00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:21,238 I want you all, upstairs! 328 00:21:22,614 --> 00:21:24,616 Come on. 329 00:21:25,242 --> 00:21:27,411 Except for you two! 330 00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:31,790 I want you down in the basement! 331 00:21:47,431 --> 00:21:50,351 Your daddy’s' check didn't arrive today. 332 00:21:50,351 --> 00:21:52,728 Oh, it's probably just late. 333 00:21:53,062 --> 00:21:56,648 I know my Mama, she wouldn't let him forget. 334 00:21:56,648 --> 00:21:58,525 You know what I think? 335 00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:03,364 I just took care of you two, for two weeks... for nothing. 336 00:22:04,531 --> 00:22:07,242 I think your mama and daddy... 337 00:22:07,242 --> 00:22:09,620 left you here for good. 338 00:22:09,787 --> 00:22:11,663 They wouldn't do that. 339 00:22:11,663 --> 00:22:13,957 Keep your mouth shut! 340 00:22:19,254 --> 00:22:21,423 Lean over those. 341 00:22:22,049 --> 00:22:24,426 Go on, lean over. 342 00:22:40,317 --> 00:22:42,986 - No! - Come on! Come on. 343 00:22:42,986 --> 00:22:45,322 - Oh, no! - Get up! 344 00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:46,949 - Gertie! - Come on! 345 00:22:46,949 --> 00:22:50,452 - No, let go of me! - Let me get hers. 346 00:23:11,932 --> 00:23:13,892 Okay. 347 00:23:14,685 --> 00:23:16,520 Come on. 348 00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:26,488 Okay. 349 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:35,080 I need that money. 350 00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:55,434 Come on, Jennie... 351 00:23:57,978 --> 00:24:02,066 It's not like, we never had a spanking before. 352 00:24:03,984 --> 00:24:08,113 You know, that check's gonna come tomorrow, I swear. 353 00:24:26,215 --> 00:24:28,550 - Johnny! - What? Give me the thing back! 354 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:29,718 Stop that! 355 00:24:29,718 --> 00:24:31,637 Stop, hurting me! 356 00:24:31,637 --> 00:24:34,306 I'm 15, I should be able to come. 357 00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:37,351 Well, somebody's gotta play catch with the little ones. 358 00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:41,188 I wonder if Bradley is gonna be there. 359 00:24:42,981 --> 00:24:45,234 Freedom was in jeopardy... 360 00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:48,987 when the struggling people had been brought... 361 00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:53,117 almost to their knees, by aggression. 362 00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:57,788 When William Westmoreland, was called to urgent duty. 363 00:24:57,788 --> 00:25:00,708 $20.00. Pay to: Gertrude Baniszewski 364 00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:03,127 His mission was to deny aggression, it's conquest. 365 00:25:03,127 --> 00:25:05,587 Please give us a call. Love, Mom and Dad. 366 00:25:05,587 --> 00:25:09,466 It was a mission, simple enough to stake. 367 00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:12,678 But to execute that mission... 368 00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:15,305 he had to fight the most complex war... 369 00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:17,099 in all American history. 370 00:25:17,099 --> 00:25:19,226 What're you gonna see tonight, Stephanie? 371 00:25:19,226 --> 00:25:21,228 Well, they ain't gonna show a movie, Marie. 372 00:25:21,228 --> 00:25:22,855 The only thing she'll be seeing... 373 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:25,065 is Coys hand, while she's pushing him away. 374 00:25:25,065 --> 00:25:26,942 I might not be pushing to hard. 375 00:25:26,942 --> 00:25:28,861 Yeah, yeah, princess Grace... 376 00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:30,779 you'd scream, if he breads on your blouse. 377 00:25:30,779 --> 00:25:32,948 That's not true, Paula, you know it. 378 00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:35,367 Don't give Sylvia the wrong idea, now. 379 00:25:35,701 --> 00:25:38,203 Look, I shot his eye out. 380 00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:39,538 Why'd you do that? 381 00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:41,457 Johnny! Get outta here! 382 00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:43,709 You're dead! 383 00:25:43,709 --> 00:25:45,753 That's insane. 384 00:25:46,962 --> 00:25:49,673 Listen, God! This is crap! 385 00:25:49,673 --> 00:25:53,385 There is nothing ever to do, in this shit-hole town. 386 00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,179 It ain't that bad, Teddy. 387 00:25:55,179 --> 00:25:57,014 Yeah, it is. 388 00:25:58,974 --> 00:26:00,768 Howdy! 389 00:26:04,855 --> 00:26:07,983 You know? Don't know about you... 390 00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:10,569 but, I'm staying up, all night, tonight. 391 00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:13,489 He's parents ain't gonna like that. 392 00:26:13,489 --> 00:26:15,491 They don't give a shit. 393 00:26:15,491 --> 00:26:17,159 Do they? 394 00:26:17,659 --> 00:26:20,954 - You like it here? - Yeah, it's really nice. 395 00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:22,915 He's here. 396 00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:24,958 I'll be right back. 397 00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:26,919 Maybe you shouldn't. 398 00:26:33,258 --> 00:26:34,802 Hey! 399 00:26:34,885 --> 00:26:36,178 Ricky. 400 00:26:36,178 --> 00:26:38,347 You shouldn't sneak up on girls like that. 401 00:26:38,347 --> 00:26:39,973 I'm sorry. 402 00:26:39,973 --> 00:26:43,352 Hey, the nursery is around the corner. 403 00:26:43,352 --> 00:26:46,063 You might wanna get back, before they miss you. 404 00:26:46,063 --> 00:26:47,648 I brought some favors. 405 00:26:47,648 --> 00:26:49,525 Give me some of that! 406 00:26:53,696 --> 00:26:55,197 What're you doing here? 407 00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:58,075 - I wanted to see you. - We already talked about this. 408 00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:02,496 I just be right back. 409 00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,165 Good! 410 00:27:05,165 --> 00:27:07,793 I already told you, my wife is back from her cousins house. 411 00:27:07,793 --> 00:27:09,795 So that's it. Okay? 412 00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:13,924 Now, be a good girl, and go play with your friends. 413 00:27:15,843 --> 00:27:18,595 You know, my Mama's been calling you trash. 414 00:27:18,595 --> 00:27:20,639 I'm starting to believe her. 415 00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:24,935 You should listen to your mother, Paula, she knows best. 416 00:27:24,935 --> 00:27:27,062 You know, you don't mean that. 417 00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:28,230 Lay off me! 418 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:29,523 Get off me! 419 00:27:29,523 --> 00:27:31,525 - No! - Just a kiss. 420 00:27:31,942 --> 00:27:35,154 - Is this what you want, huh? - Stop it! Stop! 421 00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,281 - Hey! Stop! - Get the hell outta here! 422 00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:39,241 It's private fool, no invitation. 423 00:27:39,575 --> 00:27:41,243 She is pregnant! 424 00:27:48,125 --> 00:27:52,087 Don't try to pull that shit on me! You know, it ain't true. 425 00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:54,757 There ain't no way. 426 00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:58,886 Stay away. 427 00:28:00,596 --> 00:28:02,639 Paula, I'm so sorry. I just wanted to... 428 00:28:02,639 --> 00:28:06,602 - You're gonna pay for this! - I... Paula, I just... 429 00:28:11,065 --> 00:28:13,025 Is everything okay? 430 00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:15,527 Would you quit following me! 431 00:28:27,414 --> 00:28:29,083 Paula? 432 00:28:30,584 --> 00:28:32,294 Honey, you're crying! 433 00:28:32,294 --> 00:28:34,588 - Mom! - What's wrong? 434 00:28:35,506 --> 00:28:38,300 I ain't talking to him anymore. 435 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:43,097 Oh, that's a good girl, that's a good girl, yes. 436 00:28:44,473 --> 00:28:47,226 You know, we're gonna find you a good man, Honey. 437 00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:50,062 Not like Andy, or your daddy. 438 00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:53,732 But Sylvia said... 439 00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,901 What? 440 00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:03,158 She telling horrible lies, about me. 441 00:29:06,245 --> 00:29:08,664 What kind of lies? 442 00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:17,089 She's telling everyone, that I'm a slut. 443 00:29:19,967 --> 00:29:22,011 You should have seen those boys when they heard... 444 00:29:22,011 --> 00:29:24,722 that I was a slut. 445 00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:28,017 Sylvia said that?. 446 00:29:36,066 --> 00:29:38,277 Don't worry, Baby. 447 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,572 Don't worry. 448 00:29:47,536 --> 00:29:52,082 Did you ever hear Sylvia, use any vanity or vulgar language? 449 00:29:52,082 --> 00:29:53,250 No, Sir. 450 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:57,921 Do you know how often Sylvia went to Sunday school or church? 451 00:29:57,921 --> 00:29:59,673 She'd go every time we went. 452 00:29:59,673 --> 00:30:02,301 - Does Sylvia have a bible? - yes. 453 00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,845 Did she dress up nice and clean? 454 00:30:04,845 --> 00:30:06,347 Yes, Sir. 455 00:30:06,347 --> 00:30:10,934 As Mathew said: "Enter by the narrow gate". 456 00:30:11,185 --> 00:30:14,229 For the gate is wide and the way is easy... 457 00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:16,940 that leads to destruction... 458 00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:20,694 and those who enter by it, are many. 459 00:30:22,029 --> 00:30:26,116 When the gate is narrow and the way is hard... 460 00:30:26,116 --> 00:30:28,285 that leads to life... 461 00:30:28,285 --> 00:30:32,623 and those who find it, are few. 462 00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:52,017 Jennie, come sit with me! 463 00:31:12,246 --> 00:31:15,374 We gotta go upstairs and change. 464 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,253 I want you all down here. 465 00:31:19,503 --> 00:31:21,672 Family-meeting. 466 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,301 It's a lesson for all of you. 467 00:31:42,484 --> 00:31:45,237 You need to apologize to Paula. 468 00:31:52,244 --> 00:31:53,412 But Gertie, I... I don't know... 469 00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:55,706 I want you to apologize. 470 00:31:55,706 --> 00:31:57,875 What she'd done, mama? 471 00:31:58,167 --> 00:32:01,295 She's been spreading lies about your sister. 472 00:32:01,295 --> 00:32:03,047 I... 473 00:32:10,179 --> 00:32:12,139 I'm sorry. 474 00:32:13,474 --> 00:32:17,269 Paula, you have the right, to get even. 475 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:19,396 What you wanna do? 476 00:32:19,980 --> 00:32:22,232 I want you to punish her, mama. 477 00:32:24,777 --> 00:32:26,862 You have to learn to fight your own battles, baby. 478 00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:29,323 - Get over there. - Johnny, grab her arms. 479 00:32:29,907 --> 00:32:31,533 I said I was sorry. 480 00:32:31,533 --> 00:32:33,410 I don't care what you said. 481 00:32:36,121 --> 00:32:38,957 Go on, she's got it coming. 482 00:32:45,214 --> 00:32:46,715 Let her go! 483 00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:49,677 I'm sure, she can defend herself. 484 00:32:57,059 --> 00:32:58,936 I am not. 485 00:32:58,936 --> 00:33:00,646 I will not. 486 00:33:00,646 --> 00:33:03,107 - I am not. - She is not! 487 00:33:05,192 --> 00:33:07,111 Damn it! 488 00:33:07,611 --> 00:33:09,822 Enough, that's okay! 489 00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:13,826 Get up. 490 00:33:13,826 --> 00:33:15,577 Get up! Get up! 491 00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:21,542 She's learned her lesson. 492 00:33:21,875 --> 00:33:24,753 That's what happens when you tell lies. 493 00:33:25,963 --> 00:33:27,840 Go on! 494 00:33:38,392 --> 00:33:40,352 You too, get! 495 00:34:03,334 --> 00:34:05,627 Are you awake? 496 00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:13,385 You're okay? 497 00:34:16,513 --> 00:34:19,350 Did you say your prayers yet? 498 00:34:22,019 --> 00:34:24,855 How about mamas favorite psalm? 499 00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:35,324 Turn on to me, and be gracious to me, dear lord. 500 00:34:35,991 --> 00:34:39,370 for I am lonely and affected. 501 00:34:39,370 --> 00:34:42,206 Release the chalice of my heart... 502 00:34:42,206 --> 00:34:45,793 and bring me out of my distresses! 503 00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:50,839 Consider how many are my foes... 504 00:34:51,256 --> 00:34:52,424 Thank you. 505 00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:55,427 I will put my fate in thee... 506 00:34:57,137 --> 00:35:00,599 make my life in to a better me. 507 00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:04,687 I will not think of the shame. 508 00:35:05,521 --> 00:35:08,315 I take refuge in thee! 509 00:35:10,776 --> 00:35:14,738 and take thee in greatness be sure. 510 00:35:18,033 --> 00:35:20,703 Amen. 511 00:35:38,178 --> 00:35:40,681 - I hear, your sister's pregnant. - I see you. 512 00:35:40,681 --> 00:35:44,184 - Who's the guy? - You know, that's not funny. 513 00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:47,187 I didn't say it. 514 00:35:48,355 --> 00:35:50,774 A lotta people are talking. 515 00:36:14,631 --> 00:36:16,759 Why aren't you in school? 516 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:29,855 You, huh... doing okay? 517 00:36:31,607 --> 00:36:32,816 Yeah. 518 00:36:32,816 --> 00:36:35,235 It's, huh... Sylvia, right? 519 00:36:35,361 --> 00:36:37,154 Yeah. 520 00:36:38,197 --> 00:36:40,282 Eric. 521 00:36:40,324 --> 00:36:42,576 I, huh... I've seen you at church. 522 00:36:42,576 --> 00:36:44,787 Yeah, that's me. 523 00:36:45,287 --> 00:36:47,831 You're going to the, huh... pick-nick, next Saturday? 524 00:36:49,124 --> 00:36:51,335 Well, huh... I hope so. 525 00:36:51,335 --> 00:36:52,503 Okay. 526 00:36:52,503 --> 00:36:54,338 Maybe I'll see you there. 527 00:36:59,134 --> 00:37:01,011 Huh... I'm gonna go. 528 00:37:01,261 --> 00:37:03,180 Okay. 529 00:37:06,475 --> 00:37:09,687 Why was Mama so upset about the other day? 530 00:37:09,687 --> 00:37:11,230 You haven't heard? 531 00:37:11,230 --> 00:37:13,565 I told everyone, that Paula was a slut. 532 00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:16,110 That's not true, is it? 533 00:37:17,486 --> 00:37:20,864 There's some worse rumors going around, about her. 534 00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:26,662 Do you think, she's pregnant? 535 00:37:26,662 --> 00:37:30,082 - What do you think? - Yeah, she's real easy. 536 00:37:40,509 --> 00:37:42,428 Thanks. 537 00:37:43,637 --> 00:37:45,973 How's your mama? 538 00:37:46,432 --> 00:37:48,308 Okay. 539 00:37:48,642 --> 00:37:51,061 She still in the hospital? 540 00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:52,980 Yeah. 541 00:37:58,277 --> 00:38:00,612 Who's taking care of you? 542 00:38:03,282 --> 00:38:05,367 I am. 543 00:38:07,661 --> 00:38:10,539 Oh, you don't have a girlfriend? 544 00:38:12,374 --> 00:38:14,001 I don't know. 545 00:38:14,001 --> 00:38:16,295 - You don't know? - No, I don't. 546 00:38:16,295 --> 00:38:18,630 And, huh... does she know? 547 00:38:22,593 --> 00:38:24,219 You wanna a sip? 548 00:38:24,219 --> 00:38:26,513 I ain't old enough. 549 00:38:28,932 --> 00:38:31,143 You ain't old enough to smoke, either... 550 00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:33,604 and that's not stopping you. 551 00:38:38,484 --> 00:38:40,444 Jennie? 552 00:38:41,028 --> 00:38:44,114 I think, we should call mom and dad. 553 00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:46,700 How we're supposed to do that? 554 00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,828 Here, I found this in the trash. 555 00:38:56,043 --> 00:38:59,797 So, huh... how long's Sylvia gonna be staying here? 556 00:39:00,381 --> 00:39:03,342 You got a crush on Sylvia? 557 00:39:10,724 --> 00:39:13,060 She is pretty. 558 00:39:14,645 --> 00:39:16,689 When I was in high-school... 559 00:39:16,689 --> 00:39:20,901 I was popular with the boys too then, they all chased me. 560 00:39:22,945 --> 00:39:25,322 I believe you. 561 00:39:25,781 --> 00:39:27,574 Thank you. 562 00:39:28,826 --> 00:39:31,412 Oh, are you warm. 563 00:39:37,543 --> 00:39:40,295 What're you doing home from school so early? 564 00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:43,257 I'm not feeling real good. 565 00:39:44,008 --> 00:39:45,801 Paula? 566 00:39:46,343 --> 00:39:48,512 You better go. 567 00:39:49,972 --> 00:39:52,057 Alright, you first. 568 00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:53,225 Hello? 569 00:39:53,225 --> 00:39:55,602 - Mama? - Oh, Honey! 570 00:39:55,602 --> 00:39:57,604 I was afraid, you didn't get our letter. 571 00:39:57,604 --> 00:39:59,857 Oh, mama, we miss you so much. 572 00:39:59,857 --> 00:40:01,567 Oh, I miss you too, Honey. 573 00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:03,777 I'm gonna pick you up in 2 weeks. 574 00:40:03,777 --> 00:40:06,363 So, how is everything going there? 575 00:40:07,614 --> 00:40:10,534 Oh, Gertrude's awful strict, mama. 576 00:40:10,534 --> 00:40:12,661 We got in a whole lotta trouble. 577 00:40:12,661 --> 00:40:14,455 What do you mean? Did she punish you? 578 00:40:14,455 --> 00:40:16,540 What's goin' on? These girls been getting in trouble again? 579 00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:18,208 - Let me talk to'm. - She got mad... 580 00:40:18,208 --> 00:40:19,626 because your check's late. 581 00:40:19,626 --> 00:40:20,836 Our check was late? 582 00:40:20,836 --> 00:40:22,296 No, it wasn't. 583 00:40:22,296 --> 00:40:24,089 Let me talk to her. 584 00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:25,632 Oh, we gotta go. 585 00:40:25,758 --> 00:40:27,134 Sylvia? 586 00:40:27,134 --> 00:40:28,677 Sylvia! 587 00:40:30,554 --> 00:40:32,598 They're coming, mama. 588 00:40:42,024 --> 00:40:44,860 Calling your boyfriend, Sylvia? 589 00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:46,403 No. 590 00:40:46,403 --> 00:40:48,364 Nobody special. 591 00:40:48,364 --> 00:40:50,699 We miss our parents. 592 00:40:51,658 --> 00:40:53,744 Thank you, Jennie. 593 00:40:54,036 --> 00:40:56,580 Where'd you get the money to make a long-distance call? 594 00:40:56,580 --> 00:41:00,417 I was picking up empty bottles at the Park, and traded'm in. 595 00:41:00,417 --> 00:41:03,337 Honest, that's all she did. 596 00:41:18,602 --> 00:41:20,312 What she's gonna do? 597 00:41:20,312 --> 00:41:23,232 What she always does, when she catches you stealin'. 598 00:41:24,191 --> 00:41:27,027 Are you gonna lie to me again? 599 00:41:27,027 --> 00:41:30,155 - No, Gertie, I... - You gonna steal is this household? 600 00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:32,741 I didn't steal from you, Gertie. 601 00:41:32,741 --> 00:41:35,744 What you'd... call your parents, and warn them, that... 602 00:41:35,744 --> 00:41:37,746 Gertie doesn't treat you right? 603 00:41:37,746 --> 00:41:39,623 No, ma'am. 604 00:41:40,874 --> 00:41:42,418 Alright. 605 00:41:45,004 --> 00:41:46,088 I'm sorry! 606 00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:47,798 I'm sorry! 607 00:41:54,430 --> 00:41:58,058 Okay, okay, that's a good girl, that's a good girl. 608 00:42:02,688 --> 00:42:05,357 You wanna put some ice on that. 609 00:42:14,324 --> 00:42:17,828 Now, I think you stated, Marie, that your sister Paula... 610 00:42:17,828 --> 00:42:21,832 you'd volunteered, that Paula was jealous of Sylvia. 611 00:42:21,832 --> 00:42:25,252 Every time she looked at her, her eyes looked like she hated her. 612 00:42:25,252 --> 00:42:28,255 Do you know, what the word jealous means? 613 00:42:28,547 --> 00:42:30,841 Angry at someone. 614 00:42:30,841 --> 00:42:32,926 Can you assign a reason... 615 00:42:32,926 --> 00:42:37,556 to, why Paula might shoot Sylvia, those angry, jealous glances? 616 00:42:39,266 --> 00:42:41,727 I guess, because Sylvia thought... 617 00:42:41,727 --> 00:42:44,897 she was so much more important, than Paula was. 618 00:42:44,897 --> 00:42:47,649 Do you remember a time, when you went to Bethany Baptist church... 619 00:42:47,649 --> 00:42:50,652 and had little sandwiches and something to drink? 620 00:42:55,657 --> 00:42:59,161 I haven't seen you eat up in a few weeks. 621 00:42:59,161 --> 00:43:03,040 Oh, I'm sorry, Mrs. Orbach, I've I had to work. 622 00:43:03,082 --> 00:43:05,334 What's with your arm, Paula? 623 00:43:06,168 --> 00:43:09,171 I lost my temper, with Sylvia. 624 00:43:09,463 --> 00:43:11,965 So, what'd you mean, what happened? 625 00:43:14,259 --> 00:43:17,638 She's been doing some real terrible things. 626 00:43:17,638 --> 00:43:19,556 I had to be real strict with her. 627 00:43:22,518 --> 00:43:24,853 Come on, its Ok. It's Ok, come on. 628 00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:27,147 Don't take too much. 629 00:43:28,607 --> 00:43:30,317 Hey, what're you doing here? 630 00:43:30,317 --> 00:43:32,111 Came out, for the free food. 631 00:43:32,111 --> 00:43:34,029 And the women. 632 00:43:34,405 --> 00:43:37,074 I hope you don't want any money, because... 633 00:43:37,074 --> 00:43:40,202 - So, John Senior has... - I'm not here for money. 634 00:43:40,202 --> 00:43:41,995 Bradley send me. 635 00:43:41,995 --> 00:43:43,997 About Paula. 636 00:43:45,999 --> 00:43:49,461 - Did you say hi to the baby yet? - Ah-ah. 637 00:43:52,256 --> 00:43:55,676 - Look, about yesterday... - It's fine, it's fine. 638 00:43:55,676 --> 00:43:57,219 - Sylvia, I'm really... - It's alright, don't worry about it. 639 00:43:57,219 --> 00:43:59,972 Mama, be back by the end of this week. 640 00:44:08,188 --> 00:44:09,732 Hey. 641 00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:11,692 Hi. 642 00:44:12,526 --> 00:44:15,529 A couple of my friends, are eating over there, you wanna join us? 643 00:44:16,238 --> 00:44:18,574 - Sure. - Okay. 644 00:44:19,283 --> 00:44:21,076 Sylvia! 645 00:44:21,076 --> 00:44:23,829 - Just one second. - No problem. 646 00:44:25,998 --> 00:44:30,127 Ricky, remember what I said the other day about Paula? 647 00:44:30,169 --> 00:44:32,254 Did you say something? 648 00:44:32,338 --> 00:44:34,173 No. 649 00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:35,883 Because people are talking... 650 00:44:35,883 --> 00:44:38,135 and Stephanie and Paula, are blaming me. 651 00:44:38,135 --> 00:44:40,929 No, no, I wouldn't do something like that. 652 00:44:42,014 --> 00:44:43,849 I better go. 653 00:44:49,229 --> 00:44:51,982 I understand she's pregnant? 654 00:44:52,107 --> 00:44:53,942 He says, he's willing to pay for the abortion. 655 00:44:53,942 --> 00:44:56,320 Be quiet, keep your voice down, please! 656 00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,532 If Paula's willing to go through with it, anything to keep it quiet. 657 00:45:00,532 --> 00:45:02,284 Here. 658 00:45:05,537 --> 00:45:08,749 There's not gonna be an abortion, because she's not pregnant. 659 00:45:08,749 --> 00:45:10,209 He didn't even know about it. 660 00:45:10,209 --> 00:45:12,461 But, Sylvia is the one saying it. 661 00:45:13,545 --> 00:45:18,384 That girl's been nothing but trouble since she came in to my house. 662 00:45:18,634 --> 00:45:22,429 If anyone is pregnant, she is, I'll bet she is. 663 00:45:26,308 --> 00:45:28,143 I gotta go. 664 00:45:28,894 --> 00:45:30,437 Bye, Kenny. 665 00:45:30,813 --> 00:45:32,731 Bye. 666 00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:36,777 He'll be back, baby. 667 00:45:36,777 --> 00:45:38,404 Hey! 668 00:45:41,156 --> 00:45:44,618 Coming over to hang out with the grown-ups? 669 00:45:50,499 --> 00:45:53,085 I've got some advice for you. 670 00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:56,088 I wouldn't come between Gertie and her kids, 671 00:45:56,088 --> 00:45:58,173 She won't like it much. 672 00:45:58,173 --> 00:45:59,758 Alright. 673 00:46:06,015 --> 00:46:07,558 You okay, Gertie? 674 00:46:09,435 --> 00:46:11,854 Yeah, I'm fine. 675 00:46:13,689 --> 00:46:17,568 A bunch of us, gonna cruise the circle, you wanna come with? 676 00:46:18,485 --> 00:46:22,114 Sure, I probably should ask Gertie first. 677 00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:24,742 You sure? 678 00:46:26,118 --> 00:46:28,704 Come on, let's get outta here! 679 00:46:34,793 --> 00:46:37,421 Looks like Sylvia's going off with them boys. 680 00:46:37,421 --> 00:46:40,341 You sound surprised, Ricky Hobbs. 681 00:46:40,341 --> 00:46:42,760 You shouldn't be. 682 00:46:44,345 --> 00:46:46,513 Let me do that! 683 00:46:49,099 --> 00:46:51,560 You can try, Patty. 684 00:46:55,105 --> 00:46:58,025 You sure you can't come, to the Drive-in with us? 685 00:46:59,276 --> 00:47:02,780 No, I'm... I'm late as it is. 686 00:47:03,697 --> 00:47:05,199 Let's go! 687 00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:11,538 Well, I guess, I'll see you next Sunday then. 688 00:47:24,677 --> 00:47:26,804 Shut that door. 689 00:47:39,274 --> 00:47:42,861 I dought, I thought you a lesson. 690 00:47:47,157 --> 00:47:49,910 I don't understand. 691 00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:54,540 Apparently, you've been telling more lies about my daughter. 692 00:47:56,834 --> 00:47:59,128 I haven't told any lies. 693 00:48:03,757 --> 00:48:06,844 - And then you flirt with, Andy. - I didn't. 694 00:48:07,094 --> 00:48:09,596 I saw you! 695 00:48:14,601 --> 00:48:19,982 No matter what you want, you just... you just take it. 696 00:48:20,858 --> 00:48:24,945 No, Gertie, we were just talking. 697 00:48:26,488 --> 00:48:28,699 That's all. 698 00:48:34,204 --> 00:48:35,956 Who's in charge here? 699 00:48:35,956 --> 00:48:37,583 You are, mama. 700 00:48:37,583 --> 00:48:39,668 That's right, Baby. 701 00:48:49,219 --> 00:48:53,182 Paula, told me about those boys in California. 702 00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:57,728 Ricky, did Sylvia tell you, about all those boys in California? 703 00:48:59,355 --> 00:49:01,398 No. 704 00:49:03,108 --> 00:49:04,735 Well' if you won't listen to me... 705 00:49:04,735 --> 00:49:06,987 maybe I can get you to listen to your sister. 706 00:49:07,237 --> 00:49:10,574 Keep her from making those mistakes. 707 00:49:10,574 --> 00:49:12,076 Jennie... 708 00:49:12,201 --> 00:49:15,120 do you wanna be like your sister? 709 00:49:17,873 --> 00:49:19,500 No, ma'am. 710 00:49:21,251 --> 00:49:23,462 That's a good girl. 711 00:49:56,662 --> 00:49:59,415 Patty, then what did Mrs. Baniszewski do? 712 00:49:59,415 --> 00:50:01,375 She handed her a bottle... 713 00:50:01,375 --> 00:50:03,836 and told her to pull all her skirt. 714 00:50:03,836 --> 00:50:05,713 And then? 715 00:50:05,754 --> 00:50:09,591 And then, she said to put it up her. 716 00:50:11,593 --> 00:50:15,764 Did Sylvia say anything, when Mrs. Baniszewski ask her to do this? 717 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,767 All she said was... 718 00:50:18,767 --> 00:50:20,477 I can't. 719 00:50:20,477 --> 00:50:22,646 What did Mrs. Baniszewski say? 720 00:50:22,646 --> 00:50:23,814 She said... 721 00:50:23,814 --> 00:50:26,066 Come on, you can do better than that! 722 00:50:26,066 --> 00:50:28,277 And what did Sylvia do? 723 00:50:28,444 --> 00:50:30,863 What Gertie told her to. 724 00:50:32,531 --> 00:50:34,783 What the hell is going on? 725 00:50:35,284 --> 00:50:37,286 Somebody, clean up the mess! 726 00:50:37,286 --> 00:50:39,204 Sylvia, get upstairs! 727 00:50:39,204 --> 00:50:41,206 Coy, get her up there! 728 00:50:44,918 --> 00:50:46,086 Wait! 729 00:50:46,086 --> 00:50:49,214 I will not have her in the same room with my daughter's. 730 00:50:49,214 --> 00:50:50,799 Take her to the basement! 731 00:50:50,799 --> 00:50:52,760 Please, I'm sorry, I'm sorry! 732 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,430 - Open the door, Johnny! - I'm sorry, Gertie! I'm sorry! 733 00:50:56,889 --> 00:50:59,183 Get her outta here! 734 00:50:59,308 --> 00:51:01,727 No! Noooo... 735 00:51:01,727 --> 00:51:04,605 It's best to stay out of there, I think? 736 00:51:05,064 --> 00:51:08,817 Don't worry, Jennie, Mama's just teaching her. 737 00:51:08,817 --> 00:51:12,696 - She won't go down. - I don't care! Just push her! 738 00:52:11,046 --> 00:52:12,923 Hey, Marie! 739 00:52:45,581 --> 00:52:47,458 Sylvia. 740 00:52:48,375 --> 00:52:50,294 Sylvia. 741 00:52:55,299 --> 00:52:57,676 I'm sorry, Sylvia. 742 00:52:59,178 --> 00:53:01,055 But, I'm to scared. 743 00:53:02,014 --> 00:53:05,642 I've tried talking, with Gertie, but... 744 00:53:09,313 --> 00:53:14,068 She... she said, you can have your bible. 745 00:53:17,529 --> 00:53:19,281 Jennie. 746 00:53:19,782 --> 00:53:22,326 Mama wants you upstairs. 747 00:53:22,368 --> 00:53:24,536 Family-meeting. 748 00:53:26,288 --> 00:53:28,499 I'll do what I can. 749 00:53:29,792 --> 00:53:31,835 She said now. 750 00:53:54,358 --> 00:53:56,402 Stop hitting me! 751 00:53:56,402 --> 00:53:58,195 Give me that! 752 00:53:58,654 --> 00:54:01,615 Johnny, get me my medicine, please. 753 00:54:02,783 --> 00:54:06,912 Oh, this area here, it's not good for my health. 754 00:54:07,371 --> 00:54:09,123 Maybe we can move. 755 00:54:09,123 --> 00:54:11,208 Where would we move to, Shirley? 756 00:54:11,208 --> 00:54:12,960 I don't know. 757 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,087 I don't wanna move. 758 00:54:20,884 --> 00:54:23,846 I had a call with your parents today. 759 00:54:23,846 --> 00:54:25,806 Are they coming for us? 760 00:54:25,806 --> 00:54:28,058 Well, they picked up the Florida Labor Day circuit... 761 00:54:28,058 --> 00:54:31,562 so, they wont be here for you, until the end of November, now. 762 00:54:32,354 --> 00:54:34,857 Their checks are coming in regular, though. 763 00:54:34,857 --> 00:54:37,651 My ironing slowed down... 764 00:54:37,651 --> 00:54:39,319 quite a bit. 765 00:54:39,319 --> 00:54:42,865 So, we all have to work together, as a family. 766 00:54:42,865 --> 00:54:46,785 Maybe, I can eat over at Coy's house, mama, if that'll help. 767 00:54:46,785 --> 00:54:48,078 Coy? 768 00:54:48,078 --> 00:54:49,705 Mama, wont mind. 769 00:54:49,705 --> 00:54:51,707 She likes Stephanie a lot. 770 00:54:51,707 --> 00:54:53,584 Thank you. 771 00:54:55,878 --> 00:54:57,838 Paula... 772 00:54:58,464 --> 00:55:01,842 Baby, you gonna have to take up more shift's at work. 773 00:55:01,842 --> 00:55:04,261 Maybe quit Tech for a while. 774 00:55:05,846 --> 00:55:08,390 What about Stephanie? 775 00:55:08,474 --> 00:55:11,477 - Why she have to go to school? - Because she's smarter than you. 776 00:55:11,477 --> 00:55:13,896 - Shut up, Johnny! - I'm smarter than you! 777 00:55:13,896 --> 00:55:15,898 - I'm smarter than the both of you! - Give me my Teddy! 778 00:55:15,898 --> 00:55:17,066 Stop it! 779 00:55:17,066 --> 00:55:18,400 Stop it! 780 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,402 You all, stop it! 781 00:55:22,988 --> 00:55:25,866 That's another thing we have to work on around here. 782 00:55:25,866 --> 00:55:29,203 We all have to learn to get along better. 783 00:55:30,204 --> 00:55:34,625 How long is Sylvia, down in the basement? 784 00:55:37,002 --> 00:55:40,130 Until she learns her lesson. 785 00:55:42,508 --> 00:55:44,093 Mama... 786 00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,223 She needs to be punished, Paula. 787 00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:54,144 Yes, Mama. 788 00:55:56,605 --> 00:55:59,233 Now, if anybody asks... 789 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,654 Sylvia... had to go to juvenile. 790 00:56:08,867 --> 00:56:10,869 You got that, Jennie? 791 00:56:17,710 --> 00:56:19,712 Okay. 792 00:56:20,504 --> 00:56:22,339 That's it. 793 00:56:48,282 --> 00:56:50,367 Are you sleeping? 794 00:56:56,582 --> 00:56:58,667 You okay? 795 00:57:02,046 --> 00:57:04,048 Yes. 796 00:57:05,507 --> 00:57:08,177 It's only gonna be for a little while. 797 00:57:19,772 --> 00:57:23,442 Did you ever hear or see, Sylvia, talk back to any of those people... 798 00:57:23,442 --> 00:57:25,194 when these things were being done to her? 799 00:57:25,194 --> 00:57:26,779 No, I never. 800 00:57:26,779 --> 00:57:29,865 When it first started did she say anything then? 801 00:57:29,865 --> 00:57:33,827 No, except she would say, I'm sorry, or something like that, 802 00:57:33,827 --> 00:57:36,372 as if she did something wrong, but... 803 00:57:36,580 --> 00:57:39,291 she never did anything wrong. 804 00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:44,588 Did you yourself, on any of these occasions, do anything to Sylvia? 805 00:57:44,755 --> 00:57:47,299 I just did what I was told. 806 00:57:50,386 --> 00:57:52,763 Now then, in the month of September did you see she was an influx 807 00:57:52,763 --> 00:57:55,015 anyone else, do anything to Sylvia? 808 00:58:37,766 --> 00:58:40,144 See, I told you so. 809 00:58:43,981 --> 00:58:45,232 Damn. 810 00:58:45,232 --> 00:58:46,442 What'd she do? 811 00:58:46,442 --> 00:58:47,609 She was real bad. 812 00:58:47,609 --> 00:58:48,777 She's dirty. 813 00:58:48,777 --> 00:58:50,696 Mama said, she was a slut. 814 00:58:53,699 --> 00:58:54,867 Johnny! 815 00:58:54,867 --> 00:58:56,118 Don't worry about it. 816 00:58:56,118 --> 00:58:58,203 She's used to it. 817 00:58:59,538 --> 00:59:01,498 Watch this! 818 00:59:08,172 --> 00:59:09,340 Neat, huh? 819 00:59:09,340 --> 00:59:10,883 You just burn her like that? 820 00:59:10,883 --> 00:59:12,718 Yeah, you can too. 821 00:59:12,718 --> 00:59:14,386 - I don't want to. - What? You're chicken?. 822 00:59:14,386 --> 00:59:15,554 It's OK. 823 00:59:15,554 --> 00:59:17,848 Mama, said you can. 824 00:59:47,169 --> 00:59:51,590 Did you see Sally, take cigarettes, and actually burn Sylvia with them? 825 00:59:51,590 --> 00:59:53,884 - Yes. - How many times? 826 00:59:53,884 --> 00:59:56,303 She would do it, every time she came over. 827 00:59:57,346 --> 00:59:59,223 How many times did that happened? 828 00:59:59,264 --> 01:00:01,058 Every day. 829 01:00:01,141 --> 01:00:03,977 Did you go to 3850 East New York St... 830 01:00:04,019 --> 01:00:06,188 during the months of September and October? 831 01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:07,731 Yes, Sir. 832 01:00:07,773 --> 01:00:09,692 We go most days after school. 833 01:00:09,733 --> 01:00:12,986 And did you see Sylvia Likens, in the basement of that house? 834 01:00:13,028 --> 01:00:14,488 Yes, Sir. 835 01:00:14,530 --> 01:00:16,573 Did you do anything at all to help her? 836 01:00:16,615 --> 01:00:17,783 No, Sir. 837 01:00:17,825 --> 01:00:20,744 What were the other children, be doing around the house? 838 01:00:21,161 --> 01:00:22,663 Playing around. 839 01:00:22,913 --> 01:00:25,124 Did you ever tell some of the other kids that they should come over... 840 01:00:25,124 --> 01:00:28,127 to the house, because everyone was having fun with Sylvia? 841 01:00:28,168 --> 01:00:30,587 I just thought, we were punishing her. 842 01:00:30,629 --> 01:00:34,383 Where was John standing, when he was washing her down. 843 01:00:34,383 --> 01:00:35,551 Right in front of her. 844 01:00:35,551 --> 01:00:37,511 What part of her body was he spraying? 845 01:00:37,511 --> 01:00:39,805 - All over. - Who's hose was he using? 846 01:00:39,805 --> 01:00:41,640 It was my hose, Sir. 847 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,019 Sally, did you ever see some of the other neighborhood kids, hurt Sylvia? 848 01:00:45,019 --> 01:00:46,562 Yes. 849 01:00:47,521 --> 01:00:50,691 Did you tell anybody, you saw anything? 850 01:00:51,191 --> 01:00:53,360 Not really. 851 01:00:54,153 --> 01:00:58,407 So, you told no one, what was happening at the Baniszewski's house? 852 01:00:59,158 --> 01:01:00,826 Well, I told my father... 853 01:01:00,826 --> 01:01:03,912 Gertrude gave Sylvia, an awful whipping. 854 01:01:03,912 --> 01:01:06,457 But, he just told me, I shouldn't do whatever she did... 855 01:01:06,457 --> 01:01:09,168 or I get the same. 856 01:01:10,127 --> 01:01:11,920 Shirley, was your mother ever present... 857 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,465 while some of the other people were doing these things, to Sylvia? 858 01:01:14,465 --> 01:01:16,216 Yes, she was. 859 01:01:16,216 --> 01:01:18,218 How many times? 860 01:01:18,844 --> 01:01:21,180 She was there, just about all the time. 861 01:01:21,180 --> 01:01:25,434 And what did she say when people were doing these things, to Sylvia? 862 01:01:26,268 --> 01:01:27,811 Nothing. 863 01:01:34,109 --> 01:01:37,154 Did anyone order you, to hit Sylvia? 864 01:01:37,571 --> 01:01:39,156 No, Sir. 865 01:01:39,156 --> 01:01:41,867 - Or, tie her up? - No, Sir. 866 01:01:41,867 --> 01:01:43,744 - Or, wash her down? - No, Sir. 867 01:01:43,744 --> 01:01:45,829 Then, why did you do it, Teddy? 868 01:01:46,538 --> 01:01:48,332 I don't no, Sir. 869 01:01:48,499 --> 01:01:50,501 I don't no, Sir. 870 01:01:50,709 --> 01:01:52,795 I don't no, Sir. 871 01:02:00,344 --> 01:02:02,262 You two, go upstairs. 872 01:02:02,262 --> 01:02:04,056 Yes, Mama. 873 01:02:24,326 --> 01:02:27,746 Paula Baniszewski. Pregnancy test, Urinalysis. 874 01:02:35,546 --> 01:02:37,548 Who is it? 875 01:02:39,508 --> 01:02:41,635 You got any cigarettes? 876 01:03:00,362 --> 01:03:03,157 Hear anything from Sylvia? 877 01:03:05,325 --> 01:03:07,911 You really like her, don't you? 878 01:03:08,787 --> 01:03:11,707 She's not good for you, Honey. 879 01:03:13,876 --> 01:03:16,462 You know, when she's gonna be back? 880 01:03:18,172 --> 01:03:23,302 Ricky, I told you, she wont have anything to do with you. 881 01:03:23,635 --> 01:03:26,597 She's to busy with other boys. 882 01:03:27,431 --> 01:03:30,642 That's why I had to send her to juve. 883 01:03:31,894 --> 01:03:33,520 Hand me that! 884 01:03:37,107 --> 01:03:39,068 - Get! - Alright, I'll go. 885 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,867 Here's your money. 886 01:03:47,117 --> 01:03:49,078 Thank you, baby. 887 01:03:49,078 --> 01:03:50,621 Paula... 888 01:03:52,081 --> 01:03:56,585 Honey! You are a good daughter, I'm so proud of you. 889 01:03:57,378 --> 01:04:01,924 It don't matter what people say, you'd be holdin' your head up high. 890 01:04:02,966 --> 01:04:05,386 We're gettin' through this. 891 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,264 What about Sylvia? 892 01:04:13,394 --> 01:04:15,396 Look... 893 01:04:15,646 --> 01:04:18,023 I've been praying... 894 01:04:19,024 --> 01:04:21,151 and I think, maybe it's time to forgive her. 895 01:04:21,151 --> 01:04:23,987 I think, she's learned her lesson. 896 01:04:24,113 --> 01:04:27,491 Their are things in life, we have to do... 897 01:04:27,491 --> 01:04:29,993 whate'er we like it or not. 898 01:04:31,328 --> 01:04:34,581 Well, I don't want any part of it. 899 01:04:36,041 --> 01:04:37,876 Paula. 900 01:04:39,336 --> 01:04:41,338 Paula? 901 01:04:41,338 --> 01:04:44,591 Come down here and talk to me! 902 01:05:08,866 --> 01:05:12,327 Hey, Sylvia? I'm not gonna hurt you, okay? 903 01:05:12,327 --> 01:05:14,872 I'm not gonna hurt you. 904 01:05:29,094 --> 01:05:32,723 I know what it's like to be sick, Sylvia. 905 01:05:45,110 --> 01:05:48,322 I've been sick for so long, too. 906 01:05:50,449 --> 01:05:52,826 I can't... 907 01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:56,747 discipline my kids, the way that I should. 908 01:06:00,042 --> 01:06:03,379 I'm punishing you I known, but... 909 01:06:03,462 --> 01:06:05,422 sometimes, when I take medicine... 910 01:06:05,422 --> 01:06:08,509 it's like, if I don't know what I'm doing. 911 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,810 And I care for you, so much. 912 01:06:24,817 --> 01:06:27,486 With Paula, the thing is... 913 01:06:28,987 --> 01:06:31,990 Paula is a lot like me. 914 01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:38,455 I had her, when I was, just about your age. 915 01:06:43,460 --> 01:06:47,297 And then along came, Stephanie... 916 01:06:49,216 --> 01:06:51,927 and then all the others. 917 01:06:55,347 --> 01:06:56,724 And... 918 01:06:56,724 --> 01:06:59,768 then John left. 919 01:07:07,484 --> 01:07:10,320 And here I am, just huh... 920 01:07:13,032 --> 01:07:16,869 doing everything I can, to keep my Family together. 921 01:07:18,370 --> 01:07:21,665 I want something better for Paula. 922 01:07:26,378 --> 01:07:29,214 There has to be something better. 923 01:07:41,852 --> 01:07:45,564 And I need to protect my children. 924 01:07:48,692 --> 01:07:51,528 Do you understand that? 925 01:07:52,154 --> 01:07:54,365 These kids... 926 01:07:54,990 --> 01:07:57,493 they're all I've got. 927 01:08:16,804 --> 01:08:18,764 Thank you, Sylvia. 928 01:08:22,601 --> 01:08:24,186 Thank you. 929 01:08:24,186 --> 01:08:27,189 Thank you, for understanding, okay? 930 01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:28,732 Thank you. 931 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,287 Oh, lord. 932 01:08:42,788 --> 01:08:44,581 Okay. 933 01:08:48,711 --> 01:08:50,754 Hello, Reverend. 934 01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:56,093 I've been meaning to come by and visit... 935 01:08:56,093 --> 01:08:58,554 but, when Paula came to the church and talk to me... 936 01:08:58,554 --> 01:09:00,431 it just pushed me a little. 937 01:09:00,431 --> 01:09:03,892 Now, what's that girl been bothering you with? 938 01:09:06,311 --> 01:09:10,190 Well, she's concerned about you and the whole house. 939 01:09:10,190 --> 01:09:14,319 And, huh... there's something else. 940 01:09:14,528 --> 01:09:17,281 I think, Paula may be pregnant. 941 01:09:17,406 --> 01:09:20,534 Now, I'm prepared to offer what support I can... 942 01:09:20,534 --> 01:09:22,578 but, I can't speak for the entire congregation. 943 01:09:22,578 --> 01:09:24,246 Reverend, I'm sorry, thank you... 944 01:09:24,246 --> 01:09:28,584 but, it's a vicious lie and rumor... 945 01:09:28,584 --> 01:09:30,586 spread by that Likens' girl. 946 01:09:30,586 --> 01:09:31,754 Gertrude... 947 01:09:31,754 --> 01:09:33,672 Paula, talked to me herself. 948 01:09:33,672 --> 01:09:35,132 Well, Reverend, I don't understand that. 949 01:09:35,132 --> 01:09:36,967 I'll try to get to the bottom of that with Paula... 950 01:09:36,967 --> 01:09:40,596 but Sylvia has been a very bad influence on her... 951 01:09:40,596 --> 01:09:42,765 since she came in to my house. 952 01:09:42,765 --> 01:09:44,600 And I have... 953 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,144 I just can not discipline that girl. 954 01:09:47,144 --> 01:09:49,646 Well, she did mention, Sylvia is around... 955 01:09:49,646 --> 01:09:52,066 but wasn't clear, she said there were some problems... 956 01:09:52,066 --> 01:09:54,610 and I haven't seen Sylvia, in church in weeks... 957 01:09:54,610 --> 01:09:57,446 so I thought, I just should sit down and talk with her. 958 01:09:57,613 --> 01:10:00,657 I'm afraid, I had to send her to juvenile. 959 01:10:00,908 --> 01:10:04,328 I just could not handle that girl. 960 01:10:04,328 --> 01:10:05,954 I caught her stealing from me... 961 01:10:05,954 --> 01:10:07,414 Have you spoken with her parents about this? 962 01:10:07,414 --> 01:10:09,875 I tried, I, huh... I wrote them, I've called... 963 01:10:09,875 --> 01:10:12,294 I haven't gotten a responds. 964 01:10:12,294 --> 01:10:14,004 Honestly, now I can understand... 965 01:10:14,004 --> 01:10:16,131 why they just dropped her with me. 966 01:10:16,131 --> 01:10:17,508 I see. 967 01:10:17,508 --> 01:10:19,176 I just can go by the juvenile center... 968 01:10:19,176 --> 01:10:21,345 and speak to Sylvia myself. 969 01:10:21,345 --> 01:10:23,305 I'll try to arrange that. 970 01:10:23,305 --> 01:10:25,516 - Hi, uncle Bill. - Hello, Reverend. 971 01:10:25,516 --> 01:10:27,518 Hey, kids. 972 01:10:27,559 --> 01:10:30,479 Why don't you take little Kenny, please! 973 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,856 We can continue this discussion later. 974 01:10:32,856 --> 01:10:34,942 Thank you, Reverend. 975 01:10:39,947 --> 01:10:42,366 I'll see you on Sunday then. 976 01:10:42,366 --> 01:10:45,411 I'm excepting you in my office before the end of the week. 977 01:10:45,411 --> 01:10:47,830 We need to talk about this. 978 01:10:48,038 --> 01:10:49,498 Sure, Reverend. 979 01:10:49,498 --> 01:10:51,417 Okay, Gertrude. 980 01:11:00,926 --> 01:11:03,095 Don't you have any sense? 981 01:11:05,556 --> 01:11:09,101 - I'm doing this for you! - Let go off me! 982 01:11:15,983 --> 01:11:18,861 I want everybody in the basement! 983 01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:26,368 You know why you're here. 984 01:11:26,368 --> 01:11:28,287 Sylvia! 985 01:11:35,961 --> 01:11:38,881 Ricky, she came back. 986 01:11:39,131 --> 01:11:41,800 She came back from juvenile... 987 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,219 then she started trouble again. 988 01:11:44,303 --> 01:11:45,804 Stop it! 989 01:11:47,765 --> 01:11:49,183 Johnny, hold her! 990 01:11:49,183 --> 01:11:50,726 No, please! Please! 991 01:11:50,726 --> 01:11:52,269 Hold her still! 992 01:11:52,269 --> 01:11:54,646 Sylvia, if you keep moving, it'll only be messy. 993 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,107 Light that! 994 01:11:57,107 --> 01:12:00,319 No! No! No! 995 01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:02,404 No! No! No! 996 01:12:02,738 --> 01:12:05,157 Please! Please! Please! 997 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,201 - Stop it! - Is this alright, Mama? 998 01:12:07,201 --> 01:12:09,661 Make sure it's hot. 999 01:12:10,996 --> 01:12:13,290 - I'm sorry! I'm sorry! - You Liar! 1000 01:12:13,290 --> 01:12:15,501 - No! No! - Hey! 1001 01:12:15,626 --> 01:12:18,420 Please no! Please! 1002 01:12:20,214 --> 01:12:23,133 You branded my daughter. 1003 01:12:24,093 --> 01:12:26,970 Now, I'm gonna brand you. 1004 01:12:35,229 --> 01:12:37,022 Ricky! 1005 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,109 Come here! Finish it! 1006 01:12:42,111 --> 01:12:44,029 Gertie, I can't. 1007 01:12:44,363 --> 01:12:49,952 Ricky, she was with every boy, but you. 1008 01:12:49,952 --> 01:12:52,287 You can't let her get away with this. 1009 01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:56,917 Please, help me, Ricky. 1010 01:12:56,917 --> 01:12:58,794 Please! Please! 1011 01:12:58,961 --> 01:13:01,046 Good boy. 1012 01:13:02,089 --> 01:13:04,174 Ricky! 1013 01:13:08,012 --> 01:13:09,847 What does it say? 1014 01:13:10,389 --> 01:13:13,225 It says: "I'm a Prostitute... 1015 01:13:14,143 --> 01:13:15,853 and proud of it". 1016 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,986 NO! NO! Stop it! NO! 1017 01:13:38,292 --> 01:13:40,294 Sylvia. 1018 01:13:42,087 --> 01:13:44,465 You've gotta get outta here. 1019 01:13:44,923 --> 01:13:46,759 You gotta leave. 1020 01:13:46,759 --> 01:13:48,969 You gotta get away from here, come! 1021 01:13:55,976 --> 01:13:58,270 Oh, I can't... 1022 01:14:03,567 --> 01:14:05,361 Shh... 1023 01:15:06,672 --> 01:15:08,173 Mama? 1024 01:15:10,342 --> 01:15:12,553 - You gotta get outta here! - I don't no where to go. 1025 01:15:12,553 --> 01:15:14,346 You go find your parents. 1026 01:15:14,346 --> 01:15:15,514 And Jennie? 1027 01:15:15,514 --> 01:15:17,307 Jennie can take care of herself, don't worry about her. 1028 01:15:17,307 --> 01:15:18,809 Paula? 1029 01:15:19,143 --> 01:15:20,477 No! No! 1030 01:15:20,477 --> 01:15:22,271 Go! Just go! 1031 01:15:22,271 --> 01:15:24,064 What're doing? 1032 01:15:24,231 --> 01:15:26,608 - Just let me go! - Mama, stop! 1033 01:15:26,608 --> 01:15:28,861 - Stop it! - What's going on? 1034 01:15:28,861 --> 01:15:31,196 Let's go in the house. 1035 01:15:46,003 --> 01:15:47,671 Sylvia! 1036 01:15:47,963 --> 01:15:50,924 Please, please don't hurt me! 1037 01:15:50,924 --> 01:15:52,676 No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna hurt. 1038 01:15:52,676 --> 01:15:54,636 I swear to God. I promise, I promise. 1039 01:15:54,636 --> 01:15:55,888 Look, I'm sorry. 1040 01:15:55,888 --> 01:15:57,973 I didn't know, what the hell I was doing, alright? 1041 01:15:57,973 --> 01:16:00,142 But, you gotta believe me, please! 1042 01:16:00,142 --> 01:16:01,852 Please! 1043 01:16:02,519 --> 01:16:03,896 You wanna get outta here? 1044 01:16:03,896 --> 01:16:05,939 You wanna go? Let's go. 1045 01:16:05,939 --> 01:16:07,316 Come on. 1046 01:16:07,316 --> 01:16:09,276 Come on now, you're alright. 1047 01:16:14,073 --> 01:16:15,783 Where're we going? 1048 01:16:15,783 --> 01:16:17,618 I don't know. 1049 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,580 Police? You wanna go to the Police? We can tell'm everything. 1050 01:16:21,705 --> 01:16:23,457 I just wanna go to my mom. 1051 01:16:23,457 --> 01:16:25,209 Where's your mama? 1052 01:16:25,709 --> 01:16:27,961 I think, she's in Portage. 1053 01:16:27,961 --> 01:16:30,130 We're going to Portage. 1054 01:16:31,674 --> 01:16:33,175 Damn it! 1055 01:16:40,432 --> 01:16:42,518 - Ricky? - Oh my God! 1056 01:16:42,518 --> 01:16:44,395 We're going! We're going! 1057 01:17:08,669 --> 01:17:10,671 I'll come with you. 1058 01:17:11,088 --> 01:17:13,465 No, you gotta get back. 1059 01:17:16,135 --> 01:17:20,305 You gotta get back to Jennie, and make sure nothing happens to her. 1060 01:17:23,017 --> 01:17:25,686 I wont let her out of my site. 1061 01:17:26,937 --> 01:17:28,897 Thank you, Ricky. 1062 01:18:13,067 --> 01:18:14,568 Daddy? 1063 01:18:16,487 --> 01:18:18,322 Cookie? 1064 01:18:18,572 --> 01:18:20,032 What're you doing here? 1065 01:18:20,032 --> 01:18:21,742 Dad! 1066 01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:25,204 Oh, my... What happened to you? 1067 01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:36,674 Oh, my God. 1068 01:18:37,758 --> 01:18:39,760 Oh, my God. 1069 01:18:44,139 --> 01:18:46,225 They did this to you? 1070 01:18:49,853 --> 01:18:52,481 I'm so... so sorry. 1071 01:18:52,898 --> 01:18:55,484 I'm just so sorry, I left you there. 1072 01:18:55,484 --> 01:18:57,152 We spoke to Jennie, on the phone last week. 1073 01:18:57,152 --> 01:18:58,821 She said everything was fine. 1074 01:18:58,821 --> 01:19:01,323 She's scared of her. 1075 01:19:01,573 --> 01:19:03,534 We gotta go back. 1076 01:19:06,245 --> 01:19:08,622 Let's just talk in the car. 1077 01:19:08,789 --> 01:19:11,917 Everything’s gonna be taking care of, Cookie. 1078 01:19:12,084 --> 01:19:14,336 You're with your family now. 1079 01:19:14,753 --> 01:19:18,590 Oh, Honey. Mama's here now. 1080 01:19:24,346 --> 01:19:27,766 Hey, Honey! We're here. 1081 01:19:41,572 --> 01:19:43,574 You stay here, Cookie. 1082 01:19:43,574 --> 01:19:45,576 No, huh... 1083 01:19:47,453 --> 01:19:50,080 I gotta do this. 1084 01:19:51,999 --> 01:19:54,335 I'm just gonna go in. 1085 01:20:25,866 --> 01:20:28,410 She's not breathing, mama. 1086 01:20:28,410 --> 01:20:31,455 She'll wake up, okay? Don't worry, son. 1087 01:20:31,455 --> 01:20:33,499 Wake up, please! 1088 01:20:33,665 --> 01:20:35,000 Stephanie? 1089 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,461 - She's not breathing! - She's faking it. 1090 01:20:37,461 --> 01:20:40,214 Somebody, please do something! Because she's not breathing! 1091 01:20:40,214 --> 01:20:42,800 - She's faking it. - Johnny, bring that water? 1092 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,386 - Bring me some water, baby. - Give me it! 1093 01:20:45,386 --> 01:20:46,637 She okay? 1094 01:20:46,637 --> 01:20:48,389 Please, somebody, she's not breathing! 1095 01:20:48,389 --> 01:20:51,225 Liar, liar, liar, liar... 1096 01:20:51,225 --> 01:20:53,185 Mama, she's not faking it! 1097 01:20:53,185 --> 01:20:56,188 She came to my house, and just told lies. 1098 01:20:56,188 --> 01:20:58,190 Stephanie, what's wrong? 1099 01:20:58,190 --> 01:21:00,025 Mama, we gotta do something! 1100 01:21:00,025 --> 01:21:02,986 Sweetie, mama, she's... 1101 01:21:03,654 --> 01:21:05,948 Please, Sylvia, please breath. 1102 01:21:05,948 --> 01:21:07,991 Sylvia? 1103 01:21:12,788 --> 01:21:15,207 Shirley, she'll be okay, she'll be okay. 1104 01:21:15,207 --> 01:21:17,710 Somebody's gotta do something! She's not breathing! 1105 01:21:17,710 --> 01:21:20,963 Shut up, Stephanie! She's lyin'! 1106 01:21:21,296 --> 01:21:23,382 She just lays there. 1107 01:21:23,382 --> 01:21:24,675 Oh, my god. 1108 01:21:24,675 --> 01:21:26,593 Ricky, do something! 1109 01:21:26,969 --> 01:21:28,637 Look out! 1110 01:21:28,971 --> 01:21:30,931 Here, try this. 1111 01:21:30,931 --> 01:21:32,641 Sylvia! Wake up! 1112 01:21:32,641 --> 01:21:34,059 - Come on, breath! - Paula... 1113 01:21:34,059 --> 01:21:37,146 you go get Andy, baby, he'll know what to do, okay? 1114 01:21:37,146 --> 01:21:38,856 Wake up, Sylvia! 1115 01:21:38,856 --> 01:21:40,858 She'll be okay, she's just faking it. 1116 01:21:40,858 --> 01:21:42,484 Please, Sylvia, breath. 1117 01:21:42,484 --> 01:21:44,028 She's cold. 1118 01:21:44,028 --> 01:21:45,738 Somebody better call the police! 1119 01:21:45,738 --> 01:21:47,656 Don't call the police. 1120 01:21:47,656 --> 01:21:49,491 Just go! 1121 01:21:50,534 --> 01:21:52,828 She's not dying! 1122 01:21:52,828 --> 01:21:54,663 I'll go get more water, colder this time! 1123 01:21:54,663 --> 01:21:57,374 Babies', come here... 1124 01:21:59,710 --> 01:22:01,962 She's lying, baby, She's just... 1125 01:22:01,962 --> 01:22:04,631 Mama, she's not faking it! 1126 01:22:13,724 --> 01:22:15,225 I need the police! 1127 01:22:15,225 --> 01:22:17,895 Yeah, there maybe a death girl in a house. 1128 01:22:26,028 --> 01:22:27,654 She's dead. 1129 01:22:27,905 --> 01:22:29,865 Jesus Christ, Gertie. 1130 01:22:39,291 --> 01:22:41,043 What's the problem? 1131 01:22:41,043 --> 01:22:44,088 Get me out of here, I'll tell you everything. 1132 01:22:48,926 --> 01:22:51,261 Jennie, did you ever see... 1133 01:22:51,261 --> 01:22:54,515 Sylvia do anything, to Mrs. Baniszewski? 1134 01:22:56,058 --> 01:22:59,436 No. I didn't see anything. 1135 01:23:00,020 --> 01:23:03,065 Did you ever see her do anything, to Paula? 1136 01:23:03,065 --> 01:23:04,983 No. 1137 01:23:05,609 --> 01:23:08,779 Did you ever see her do anything, to Johnny Baniszewski? 1138 01:23:08,779 --> 01:23:10,656 No. 1139 01:23:13,325 --> 01:23:18,747 Jennie, you saw your sister being hit... 1140 01:23:19,373 --> 01:23:21,458 beaten, struck. 1141 01:23:21,458 --> 01:23:24,545 Why did you not call the police? 1142 01:23:24,670 --> 01:23:28,882 Well, huh... Gertie dreaded me, that if I told anybody... 1143 01:23:28,882 --> 01:23:31,552 I'd get the same treatment, than Sylvia was getting. 1144 01:23:32,386 --> 01:23:35,514 You could have told anyone, up and down on the street. 1145 01:23:36,015 --> 01:23:40,436 I was scared, and I guess, I just... 1146 01:23:40,686 --> 01:23:44,732 did what she told me to do. I wish, I hadn't. 1147 01:23:49,528 --> 01:23:52,031 Did you ever see Sylvia cry? 1148 01:23:58,829 --> 01:24:01,623 They said, she didn't have any feelings... 1149 01:24:01,623 --> 01:24:04,376 but... I knew better. 1150 01:24:06,045 --> 01:24:09,506 I've seen her cry before. 1151 01:24:10,341 --> 01:24:14,803 I imagine, the reason that she didn't cry, was... 1152 01:24:14,803 --> 01:24:18,182 because she didn't have enough water. 1153 01:24:20,434 --> 01:24:23,520 The trial lasted 24 days. 1154 01:24:23,604 --> 01:24:26,815 Gertrude was the last one to take the stand. 1155 01:24:26,815 --> 01:24:32,446 What was your physical condition in July and August of last year? 1156 01:24:34,865 --> 01:24:37,493 Pretty run down, physically. 1157 01:24:38,077 --> 01:24:40,579 Pretty upset, mentally and emotionally. 1158 01:24:40,579 --> 01:24:42,664 What do you mean? 1159 01:24:43,707 --> 01:24:47,503 If you got as many children... 1160 01:24:47,711 --> 01:24:52,216 around your home, all the time, as I do... 1161 01:24:52,216 --> 01:24:54,468 arguing and carrying on... 1162 01:24:54,468 --> 01:24:57,888 you'd be pretty upset, mentally and emotionally too. 1163 01:24:57,888 --> 01:25:00,140 What medicine did you take? 1164 01:25:00,140 --> 01:25:03,936 Phenobarbital Sulfate, and Coricidin. 1165 01:25:03,936 --> 01:25:06,897 I was trying to take care of myself... 1166 01:25:06,897 --> 01:25:10,067 because I could not afford to go to a doctor. 1167 01:25:10,317 --> 01:25:14,697 Well, then, getting to the 1st, week of September. 1168 01:25:14,697 --> 01:25:17,825 Was there any change in your physical condition... 1169 01:25:17,825 --> 01:25:20,244 or in the condition of that house? 1170 01:25:23,706 --> 01:25:25,624 No, Sir. 1171 01:25:25,874 --> 01:25:27,626 What about the 3rd. week of September... 1172 01:25:27,626 --> 01:25:29,128 do you remember that? 1173 01:25:29,128 --> 01:25:32,172 You mean anything specific that might happened in September? 1174 01:25:32,172 --> 01:25:34,508 Yes, anything specific. 1175 01:25:34,508 --> 01:25:36,468 The kids were fighting a lot. 1176 01:25:36,468 --> 01:25:39,138 The kids were fighting a lot? 1177 01:25:39,555 --> 01:25:42,433 My children and the neighbor children... 1178 01:25:42,474 --> 01:25:45,185 were coming in, and fight things over it. 1179 01:25:45,185 --> 01:25:49,815 My children fighting with other children, so on and so fort. 1180 01:25:49,857 --> 01:25:52,484 What did you do, when that was happening? 1181 01:25:54,236 --> 01:25:57,364 I did not see this, fighting then. 1182 01:25:57,573 --> 01:26:00,743 I was barely able to stay up at all. 1183 01:26:00,784 --> 01:26:04,288 I did not even feel like getting up. 1184 01:26:04,955 --> 01:26:07,875 Did you have any knowledge, of any mistreatment... 1185 01:26:07,875 --> 01:26:09,877 going on with Sylvia? 1186 01:26:11,503 --> 01:26:13,630 No, Sir. 1187 01:26:13,672 --> 01:26:18,761 Did you commit any indignity, making marks on that girls body? 1188 01:26:19,553 --> 01:26:21,722 No, Sir. 1189 01:26:21,764 --> 01:26:24,558 Do you know, how those wounds, got on her body? 1190 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,226 No, Sir. 1191 01:26:26,226 --> 01:26:29,521 You're telling the Jury, you don't know who did it? 1192 01:26:31,398 --> 01:26:33,650 No. 1193 01:26:35,319 --> 01:26:37,863 Did you hear the testimony of Jennie? 1194 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,990 Yes, I did. 1195 01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:42,493 Did you hear, some of your children state... 1196 01:26:42,493 --> 01:26:46,455 that before Sylvia died, you started branding this girl? 1197 01:26:48,624 --> 01:26:50,417 Yes, I heard that. 1198 01:26:50,501 --> 01:26:52,419 Did they all lie? 1199 01:26:59,176 --> 01:27:01,428 That is right. 1200 01:27:01,428 --> 01:27:04,723 The fact is you're lying, isn't it? 1201 01:27:05,224 --> 01:27:07,601 No, Sir. 1202 01:27:10,270 --> 01:27:12,773 Did you hear John Baniszewski state... 1203 01:27:12,773 --> 01:27:17,152 that you burned her, with matches and cigarettes? 1204 01:27:18,737 --> 01:27:20,823 Yes, I heard that statement. 1205 01:27:20,823 --> 01:27:23,325 Did he tell the truth? 1206 01:27:27,746 --> 01:27:30,499 He was not telling the truth. 1207 01:27:30,499 --> 01:27:32,668 No. 1208 01:27:34,586 --> 01:27:37,464 You're saying, you did not do it? 1209 01:27:38,382 --> 01:27:39,800 That's right. 1210 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,510 You were in bed, a great deal of the time... 1211 01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:44,430 when the children were doing things, you did not know, they were doing. 1212 01:27:44,430 --> 01:27:47,099 I imagine they were doing a great deal of things... 1213 01:27:47,099 --> 01:27:48,475 that I did not know. 1214 01:27:48,475 --> 01:27:50,728 Why did Johnny lie? 1215 01:27:52,563 --> 01:27:55,733 I imagine, he is a pretty scared little boy. 1216 01:27:55,733 --> 01:27:57,568 Are you scared? 1217 01:27:59,695 --> 01:28:03,949 I've been scared by a lot of things, for a long time. 1218 01:28:04,742 --> 01:28:08,287 She sacrificed me, to protect her children... 1219 01:28:08,287 --> 01:28:11,915 and sacrificed them, to protect herself. 1220 01:28:33,854 --> 01:28:36,231 Will the accused, please rise! 1221 01:28:48,577 --> 01:28:51,914 We, the Jury, find Gertrude Baniszewski... 1222 01:28:51,914 --> 01:28:54,166 guilty of 1st. degree murder... 1223 01:28:54,166 --> 01:28:57,002 sentencing her to life in prison. 1224 01:29:06,053 --> 01:29:08,555 The case got a lot of attention... 1225 01:29:09,890 --> 01:29:12,726 it even made Time Magazine. 1226 01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:20,025 And most people started talking... 1227 01:29:20,025 --> 01:29:22,861 about things, they used to ignore. 1228 01:29:24,071 --> 01:29:25,322 Thank you. 1229 01:29:25,322 --> 01:29:27,700 The others, were tried later. 1230 01:29:27,700 --> 01:29:29,743 Paula was found guilty as an accomplice... 1231 01:29:29,743 --> 01:29:31,912 and served a couple of years. 1232 01:29:31,912 --> 01:29:35,582 She had that Baby, and named it, Gertrude. 1233 01:29:35,749 --> 01:29:38,127 Johnny was convicted too. 1234 01:29:38,127 --> 01:29:39,628 He was the youngest inmate... 1235 01:29:39,628 --> 01:29:42,840 in the history, of the Indiana State Reformatory. 1236 01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,342 He would later become a real Minister. 1237 01:29:45,342 --> 01:29:47,553 one way of telling the story, I guess. 1238 01:29:47,886 --> 01:29:50,389 Ricky Hobbs, was found guilty of man-slaughter... 1239 01:29:50,389 --> 01:29:53,642 he served time at the reformatory. 1240 01:29:53,642 --> 01:29:57,938 He died at age 21, of lung cancer. 1241 01:29:58,856 --> 01:30:01,692 Coy, also served a couple of years... 1242 01:30:01,817 --> 01:30:03,652 He went on with a life of crime... 1243 01:30:03,652 --> 01:30:06,321 after he got released from prison. 1244 01:30:06,655 --> 01:30:10,159 I don't know, what happened, to any of the rest of them. 1245 01:30:10,909 --> 01:30:12,870 Mom und Dad, went back on Tour... 1246 01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:16,373 and left Jennie, with the District Attorney and his Family. 1247 01:30:16,373 --> 01:30:18,959 They helped her get back on her feet. 1248 01:30:21,879 --> 01:30:25,299 Gertrude served 20 years of her life sentence. 1249 01:30:25,299 --> 01:30:29,094 She was released on parole in 1985. 1250 01:30:29,845 --> 01:30:33,015 Before she died 5 years later... 1251 01:30:33,015 --> 01:30:36,894 she took responsibility, for everything that had happened. 1252 01:30:51,033 --> 01:30:53,327 I'm so sorry. 1253 01:31:04,004 --> 01:31:05,964 And me? 1254 01:31:07,508 --> 01:31:10,511 I returned to the carnival. 1255 01:31:10,928 --> 01:31:14,056 The only place, I always felt save. 1256 01:31:16,975 --> 01:31:19,561 Reverend Bill, used to say: 1257 01:31:19,561 --> 01:31:23,482 "For every situation, God always has a plan". 1258 01:31:25,734 --> 01:31:30,239 I guess, I'm still trying to figure out, what that plan was. 83043