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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:55,149 --> 00:01:00,149 Transcript by sub.Trader & Clarity 2 00:01:02,271 --> 00:01:05,191 As I was doing what I was trained to do 3 00:01:07,734 --> 00:01:09,695 …you realize how weak and fragile you are. 4 00:01:09,778 --> 00:01:12,615 This was his first day going to that office. 5 00:01:12,698 --> 00:01:15,326 -We had his picture brought to us-- -And he was so happy. 6 00:01:15,409 --> 00:01:16,619 Pulmonary fibrosis. 7 00:01:16,702 --> 00:01:19,747 When I saw the building come down I just prayed, you know. 8 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:22,500 I don't know if we were just in denial… 9 00:01:22,583 --> 00:01:24,877 but we really thought it's… 10 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:27,546 …And I have to come to terms with it. 11 00:01:27,629 --> 00:01:28,422 The rest of them? 12 00:01:28,505 --> 00:01:29,465 I lost a son. 13 00:01:29,548 --> 00:01:31,048 All gone. 14 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:35,094 You want other information? 15 00:01:39,099 --> 00:01:40,600 I'll say this: 16 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:42,685 I'm angry. 17 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:45,771 I'm angry with God. 18 00:01:46,690 --> 00:01:49,942 I'm angry with our country also because they let this happen. 19 00:01:55,073 --> 00:01:57,116 My beautiful boy 20 00:01:59,703 --> 00:02:03,831 was burnt alive because of them. 21 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,127 You know, we don't even have a body. 22 00:02:13,425 --> 00:02:15,718 If someone took your child 23 00:02:17,554 --> 00:02:19,055 and blew them up… 24 00:02:24,561 --> 00:02:26,562 They didn't even have a fingernail. 25 00:02:34,404 --> 00:02:36,489 How do you go on from there? 26 00:02:39,326 --> 00:02:41,410 How do you calculate that? 27 00:02:45,624 --> 00:02:47,917 What is 28 00:02:48,669 --> 00:02:50,002 life 29 00:02:50,379 --> 00:02:51,545 worth? 30 00:02:52,047 --> 00:02:53,964 Not a trick question, people. 31 00:02:55,217 --> 00:02:57,134 Who's gonna give us a number? 32 00:02:58,762 --> 00:03:00,472 Back row… 33 00:03:00,555 --> 00:03:03,349 You there, Mr… Barron. 34 00:03:03,767 --> 00:03:06,437 Big boy voice and a counselor, tell us, where are you from? 35 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,397 I was raised in Wichita. 36 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,858 Kansas, farm boy. Good. 37 00:03:10,941 --> 00:03:12,610 You were raised on one, a farm? 38 00:03:12,693 --> 00:03:15,362 My girlfriend's father owned one. He grew sorghum. 39 00:03:15,445 --> 00:03:16,530 Sorghum? 40 00:03:16,613 --> 00:03:19,158 Girlfriend's father grew sorghum. 41 00:03:19,241 --> 00:03:20,783 Miss Politano. 42 00:03:21,576 --> 00:03:25,955 Miss Politano, you are now Mr. Barron's girlfriend's father. 43 00:03:26,915 --> 00:03:29,293 Don't laugh people. It's very sad. 44 00:03:29,376 --> 00:03:33,839 Mr. Barron just died tragically. Crushed by a combine harvester 45 00:03:33,922 --> 00:03:36,675 in Miss Politano's sorghum field. 46 00:03:36,758 --> 00:03:40,679 Mr. Dickerson, you are now representing Mr. Barron. 47 00:03:40,762 --> 00:03:42,514 And where is Miss Chan? 48 00:03:42,597 --> 00:03:46,101 Miss Chan, you're representing Amalgamated Caterpillar. 49 00:03:46,184 --> 00:03:49,355 Manufacturer of said combine harvester 50 00:03:49,438 --> 00:03:52,274 which took poor young Mr. Barron's life, 51 00:03:52,357 --> 00:03:55,110 in the Kansas State civil action of 52 00:03:55,193 --> 00:03:59,782 "Mr. Barron v. Mr. Barron's girlfriend's father's sorghum farm 53 00:03:59,865 --> 00:04:01,200 and the Caterpillar company." 54 00:04:01,283 --> 00:04:05,656 So, Miss. Chan, how much do you offer Mr. Dickerson to settle this? 55 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,082 All right. 56 00:04:10,709 --> 00:04:12,042 Let me rephrase. 57 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:17,924 How much is Mr. Barron's life worth? 58 00:04:18,007 --> 00:04:19,093 Give us a number. 59 00:04:20,594 --> 00:04:21,886 Two million? 60 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:24,181 Hey, I'm in law school. 61 00:04:24,306 --> 00:04:26,432 I could be earning that before I'm 30. 62 00:04:27,476 --> 00:04:30,646 If you ace the final, maybe. And if aren't dead, 63 00:04:30,729 --> 00:04:32,021 which you are. 64 00:04:32,397 --> 00:04:35,484 This is now Mr. Dickerson's decision along with 65 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:37,111 -Mr… your name? -Patel. 66 00:04:37,194 --> 00:04:42,031 Patel. Mr. Patel is a poor bereaved mother of Mr. Barron. 67 00:04:44,826 --> 00:04:46,243 Three million? 68 00:04:46,536 --> 00:04:48,037 Two point seven. 69 00:04:48,449 --> 00:04:49,376 Deal. 70 00:04:50,999 --> 00:04:53,042 There you have it. There's the deal. 71 00:04:53,376 --> 00:04:58,048 To be clear, you haven't stumbled into a philosophy course 72 00:04:58,131 --> 00:05:01,885 where as the law is concerned this question actually has an answer. 73 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:04,838 And the answer is a number. 74 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:06,764 And that's the job. 75 00:05:23,865 --> 00:05:27,161 No. Yes, 55 per victim. 76 00:05:27,244 --> 00:05:30,246 And both sides agreed to walk. That's right. 77 00:05:30,747 --> 00:05:34,126 No one thinks it's fair, but fair is not the goal here. 78 00:05:34,209 --> 00:05:36,460 It's "finish and move on." 79 00:05:37,087 --> 00:05:38,547 Yeah, well, thank you, sir… 80 00:05:38,630 --> 00:05:41,008 Mr. Feinberg, you have a message from judge Colton. 81 00:05:41,091 --> 00:05:41,925 Thank you. 82 00:05:42,008 --> 00:05:45,679 Just remember me when POTUS calls about the vacancy on the Supreme Court. 83 00:05:45,762 --> 00:05:48,766 I saw Rehnquist the other day, he's looking pale. 84 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:50,641 I said he's looking pale. 85 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:53,185 Hello? 86 00:05:53,728 --> 00:05:54,563 I think I lost him. 87 00:05:54,646 --> 00:05:56,690 -Probably a good thing. -It was a joke. 88 00:05:56,773 --> 00:05:59,359 When you shoot the funny ones you don't have to announce that afterwards. 89 00:05:59,442 --> 00:06:01,945 I just saved the taxpayers years in the courtroom. 90 00:06:02,028 --> 00:06:03,572 Do you think he really hung up on me? 91 00:06:03,655 --> 00:06:05,365 I'm sure he's off commissioning a monument. 92 00:06:05,448 --> 00:06:06,824 I have a fond to run. 93 00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:10,370 Mr. Darryl Barnes Esq. I have an important question for you. 94 00:06:10,453 --> 00:06:11,538 Whose this birthday cake? 95 00:06:11,621 --> 00:06:13,330 Margo, in Accounting. 96 00:06:13,874 --> 00:06:16,001 -Is that the important question? -No. 97 00:06:16,084 --> 00:06:17,711 Did she save any for you? 98 00:06:17,794 --> 00:06:20,047 Gloria, where are we on that email? 99 00:06:20,130 --> 00:06:22,007 "And so I would ask…" 100 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:25,385 And so I would insist. Not ask. 101 00:06:25,468 --> 00:06:28,596 Insist that you be on time. 102 00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:31,308 I have a very busy schedule that day. 103 00:06:31,391 --> 00:06:34,646 So punctuality will be imperative. 104 00:06:36,117 --> 00:06:39,335 Please, promptly advise. 105 00:06:39,983 --> 00:06:41,443 Love, Dad? 106 00:06:41,526 --> 00:06:44,404 Yeah. Love, Dad. 107 00:06:44,487 --> 00:06:45,989 OK, I'll type this up right now. 108 00:06:46,072 --> 00:06:47,031 Thank you. 109 00:07:11,014 --> 00:07:13,100 Remind me again why are we building this instead of buying that cute 110 00:07:13,183 --> 00:07:15,042 little place on Cape Charles? 111 00:07:15,142 --> 00:07:17,329 -Fog. -You could still commute. 112 00:07:17,395 --> 00:07:18,730 The numbers show Cape Charles 113 00:07:18,813 --> 00:07:21,775 is more than twice as likely to be fogged in on any given day. 114 00:07:21,875 --> 00:07:25,162 -That's not a real statistic. -Two point two is the statistic. 115 00:07:25,236 --> 00:07:26,362 If you are really tight into that. 116 00:07:27,206 --> 00:07:30,492 I have heard that people that base their future happiness on weather data 117 00:07:30,575 --> 00:07:32,536 are 100 percent less likely to be fun. 118 00:07:33,411 --> 00:07:35,372 Why is he sitting there and just looks at me? 119 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:36,373 Do you mind? 120 00:07:36,456 --> 00:07:38,040 You're not retiring anyway. 121 00:08:27,841 --> 00:08:29,258 Good night, honey. 122 00:08:47,449 --> 00:08:50,324 NEW YORK CITY 123 00:08:59,125 --> 00:09:02,084 {\an8} Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation 124 00:08:59,748 --> 00:09:02,090 Because they want to put in another shoe store. 125 00:09:02,917 --> 00:09:04,336 Cause we need another one of those. 126 00:09:04,419 --> 00:09:08,006 And they wanna take out those beautiful arched windows. 127 00:09:08,089 --> 00:09:13,220 You know, the one that have the Corinthian-carved cartouche things? 128 00:09:13,303 --> 00:09:15,138 They wanna take them out and put in the modern one 129 00:09:15,221 --> 00:09:17,808 so they can hawk more sneakers. It's just… 130 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:19,184 Not on your watch. 131 00:09:19,267 --> 00:09:22,186 No. Now you're mocking me. 132 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:24,940 There's chicken piccata in the fridge. 133 00:09:25,023 --> 00:09:27,567 I'm going to post this. Just wait. 134 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:29,152 Power to the people. 135 00:09:29,903 --> 00:09:30,986 Yep. 136 00:09:55,845 --> 00:09:58,181 …Cause you can actually take it… 137 00:09:58,264 --> 00:09:59,307 Hi there. 138 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:06,940 All right, come in, please. Breakfast is ready. 139 00:10:08,066 --> 00:10:10,485 -Quickly. -Yeah, breakfast! 140 00:10:10,568 --> 00:10:11,903 -Thank you. -Slow down. 141 00:10:11,986 --> 00:10:13,155 This way. 142 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:15,864 Gotta go. Love you. 143 00:10:22,497 --> 00:10:23,580 All right. 144 00:10:23,998 --> 00:10:25,165 Mom! 145 00:10:53,194 --> 00:10:54,528 Right now I don't see it. 146 00:10:55,613 --> 00:10:56,864 Sure. 147 00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:44,496 The shock from the attacks in New York and DC 148 00:11:44,579 --> 00:11:46,957 reverberate across the entire nation. 149 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,418 Our lead corresponded Tony Riddle has been informed that state officials 150 00:11:50,501 --> 00:11:54,422 -are working to strengthen security-- -Officials at Somerset County Airport 151 00:11:54,505 --> 00:11:57,592 confirmed the crash of a large plane north of that airport. 152 00:11:57,675 --> 00:12:00,053 The army has been placed at REDCON Delta. 153 00:12:00,136 --> 00:12:01,888 Firefighters and police officers 154 00:12:01,971 --> 00:12:05,529 are frantically trying to help those people who have been hurt 155 00:12:05,629 --> 00:12:08,366 -who perhaps have not been rescued. -For a tragedy so great, 156 00:12:08,466 --> 00:12:10,623 tonight a city comes together 157 00:12:10,647 --> 00:12:13,273 searching for safety and comfort. 158 00:12:13,775 --> 00:12:15,068 Some of the hundreds 159 00:12:15,151 --> 00:12:18,780 are waiting for their turn to go in to the World Trade Center area. 160 00:12:18,863 --> 00:12:22,033 The day is to come to rescue those who may be alive. 161 00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:24,452 So we have at this point 162 00:12:24,535 --> 00:12:27,414 well over a thousand people confirmed dead 163 00:12:27,497 --> 00:12:29,166 The three hundred that are missing. 164 00:12:29,249 --> 00:12:31,459 That he talked about eight hundred at the Pentagon 165 00:12:31,505 --> 00:12:36,256 Two hundred and sixty six were on those airplanes, they were passengers and crews. 166 00:12:36,339 --> 00:12:39,384 For now are up to about 1,300. 167 00:12:39,467 --> 00:12:41,553 And it is expected to go much higher 168 00:12:41,636 --> 00:12:45,182 Twenty four hundred people altogether were killed in Pearl Harbor. 169 00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:47,142 They were military personnel for the most part. 170 00:12:47,225 --> 00:12:50,083 It was a military attack on military installations. 171 00:12:50,154 --> 00:12:51,236 But we know who did it. 172 00:12:51,271 --> 00:12:54,773 This is a different kind of a war. In a new century. 173 00:13:12,883 --> 00:13:16,547 Conflicts like this can bond so many people 174 00:13:17,284 --> 00:13:21,365 I think all of that is going to have to be… 175 00:13:21,536 --> 00:13:25,263 In the midst of our outrage and anger… 176 00:13:25,346 --> 00:13:26,514 President Bush's right, 177 00:13:26,597 --> 00:13:31,560 we have to show the word that we can respond to this 178 00:13:32,854 --> 00:13:35,106 both with determination… 179 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:38,568 -So what did you tell Kennedy? -That I'll think about it. 180 00:13:38,651 --> 00:13:41,528 That you're my partner and I'd have to talk to you. 181 00:13:43,114 --> 00:13:44,624 I mean I know why he asked us. 182 00:13:44,715 --> 00:13:47,327 We're one of what, five or six firms with this kind of expertize? 183 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:49,246 If that. If that. 184 00:13:49,329 --> 00:13:50,747 -Asbestos. Agent Orange. -Yeah. 185 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:53,375 Those were hot-buttoned cases, too. 186 00:13:53,871 --> 00:13:54,785 Yeah. 187 00:13:54,883 --> 00:13:56,826 I'll let you know how the Committee hearing goes. 188 00:13:56,867 --> 00:13:57,933 Yeah. 189 00:14:12,788 --> 00:14:16,296 SEPTEMBER 22, 2001 190 00:14:20,318 --> 00:14:22,976 Thanks for coming, Ken. I know Teddy appreciates it. 191 00:14:22,341 --> 00:14:25,263 {\an8} U.S. CAPITOL 192 00:14:23,076 --> 00:14:25,501 -Sure. -We want our best trial lawyers. 193 00:14:25,907 --> 00:14:28,325 We're needing your support on this thing. 194 00:14:29,917 --> 00:14:30,677 Yeah. 195 00:14:30,745 --> 00:14:32,289 Are your people OK? Kids, family? 196 00:14:32,372 --> 00:14:35,875 Yeah, Mike was in his dorm in NYU, he's all right. 197 00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:38,087 Little shaken up but… What thing? 198 00:14:38,381 --> 00:14:39,754 New Bill on the floor. 199 00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:43,466 The Air Transportation Safety and System Stabilization Act. 200 00:14:43,549 --> 00:14:45,427 Wait, they're bailing out the airlines? 201 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:46,968 More like the whole economy. 202 00:14:48,805 --> 00:14:51,433 If the victims of these attacks or their families 203 00:14:51,516 --> 00:14:55,279 attempt to sue the airline industry for damages we will go bankrupt. 204 00:14:55,353 --> 00:14:59,065 And never mind whether they will or not, the legal cost alone. 205 00:14:59,148 --> 00:15:03,153 And that's when we might as well just hand those terrorists the victory. 206 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:04,738 Because we're paralyzed. 207 00:15:04,821 --> 00:15:08,867 Deliveries, communal travel, the whole economy grinding to a halt. 208 00:15:08,950 --> 00:15:12,023 What we're facing is a national emergency. 209 00:15:12,161 --> 00:15:14,289 Lee? Ken? 210 00:15:14,372 --> 00:15:16,957 Help us come up with another way. 211 00:15:18,835 --> 00:15:20,128 Brass tacks here. 212 00:15:20,211 --> 00:15:23,381 You're trying to prevent law suits from the victims. 213 00:15:23,464 --> 00:15:24,424 That's what they're saying. 214 00:15:24,507 --> 00:15:25,465 That's not what we're saying. 215 00:15:25,716 --> 00:15:26,843 It's called due process. 216 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:29,973 Limit. We're saying limit civil suits against the airline. 217 00:15:30,054 --> 00:15:31,639 Denying recourse 218 00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:34,180 to the people most impacted by these attacks. 219 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:35,725 Stop grandstanding. 220 00:15:36,436 --> 00:15:38,563 What we're proposing is a treasury fund 221 00:15:38,649 --> 00:15:41,420 offering tort-style compensation to the victims. 222 00:15:41,524 --> 00:15:44,402 For their economic losses. Something for pain and suffering. 223 00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:47,779 Yes. But coming from us, Congress. Not the courts. 224 00:15:48,364 --> 00:15:51,065 And in exchange the claimants promise not to sue. 225 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,952 -Corporate bailout. -For Christ's Sake, Lee. 226 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:55,080 What, you're calling it charity? 227 00:15:55,163 --> 00:15:57,749 Yes. Government-sponsored charity. 228 00:15:57,832 --> 00:15:59,833 With strings attached. 229 00:16:00,835 --> 00:16:02,608 Ken, help me out here. 230 00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:04,756 Law suit could take decades. 231 00:16:04,839 --> 00:16:05,922 Yes. 232 00:16:06,883 --> 00:16:09,219 After it crashes the economy. 233 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:11,096 And the victims might still lose. 234 00:16:11,179 --> 00:16:13,223 This is for their own good. 235 00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:14,723 And the nation's. 236 00:16:18,811 --> 00:16:22,564 How many victims are there? 237 00:16:25,359 --> 00:16:27,694 Well… We don't really know yet. 238 00:16:30,448 --> 00:16:33,993 A special master we select will have to negotiate all settlements. 239 00:16:34,076 --> 00:16:35,912 A flat fee would be another option. 240 00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:38,581 The same dollar value for every loss of life. 241 00:16:38,664 --> 00:16:43,378 But those towers had CEOs and janitors. 242 00:16:43,461 --> 00:16:45,629 They won't all say "yes" to the same number. 243 00:16:45,963 --> 00:16:47,298 And even if they did? 244 00:16:47,381 --> 00:16:50,592 Anybody wanna go on record with what that number is? 245 00:16:53,095 --> 00:16:55,056 Yeah… Well… pretty soon 246 00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:58,850 Somebody gonna have to do the vulgar work of putting numbers on a check. 247 00:17:05,816 --> 00:17:10,194 So, you're saying what? You wanna do this job? 248 00:17:11,239 --> 00:17:12,698 Well, no. I mean… 249 00:17:12,781 --> 00:17:16,410 Well, I mean… We're discussing it right now. 250 00:17:16,493 --> 00:17:17,536 So… 251 00:17:19,247 --> 00:17:24,251 Look, you're telling me you're not sick about it, watching all of this on TV? 252 00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:27,056 Of course I'm sick about it. 253 00:17:27,171 --> 00:17:29,215 -Well… -But… 254 00:17:29,298 --> 00:17:32,385 It's just tough stuff, Kenny. 255 00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:35,305 I know. It is. Very tough. Yeah. 256 00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:37,015 And you're not exactly-- 257 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:40,894 You're not a rabbi or a priest. 258 00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:42,061 -You're a lawyer. -I know. 259 00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:44,981 And that's exactly what these people need right now. 260 00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:46,524 There's a process here. 261 00:17:46,607 --> 00:17:48,276 You know, I hire a team. 262 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,196 I draft an objective formula. 263 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:53,781 And I dispense reasonable payments. 264 00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:55,325 -Just like that? -Yeah. 265 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:58,285 It's no different than my previous cases in that regard. 266 00:17:58,744 --> 00:18:01,955 Look, this is something I'm good at. 267 00:18:02,707 --> 00:18:04,040 This is something… 268 00:18:05,876 --> 00:18:08,044 This is something I can do to help. 269 00:18:19,265 --> 00:18:20,808 Judge Weinstien told me how you 270 00:18:20,891 --> 00:18:23,937 reached a settlement on DES. 271 00:18:24,020 --> 00:18:26,439 Ten years of court house war. 272 00:18:26,522 --> 00:18:28,441 You brought both sides to a motel room, 273 00:18:28,524 --> 00:18:30,527 told them they can stay as long as they all wanted 274 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:33,112 but they couldn't leave until they reached a settlement. 275 00:18:33,195 --> 00:18:34,989 -Is that really true? -It is. 276 00:18:35,072 --> 00:18:37,240 I did let them order room service. 277 00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:40,493 You know, Attorney General… 278 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:42,789 People are rational animals. 279 00:18:42,872 --> 00:18:45,458 I find if you force them to the table 280 00:18:45,541 --> 00:18:48,585 most behave in a way that makes the most sense. 281 00:18:49,337 --> 00:18:51,589 It's hard to believe you lived in Washington. 282 00:18:51,672 --> 00:18:54,968 Well, in politics a conflict sells. 283 00:18:55,051 --> 00:18:57,762 I find that what works best is compromise. 284 00:18:57,845 --> 00:19:00,223 No one walks away too happy, 285 00:19:00,306 --> 00:19:02,141 just happy enough to walk away. 286 00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:06,186 And when you walk away today, what outcome makes you happy enough? 287 00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:09,064 I'd like to have the job, John. 288 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:11,816 No one wants this job. 289 00:19:13,069 --> 00:19:14,069 Well… 290 00:19:15,071 --> 00:19:16,905 That narrows down your options. 291 00:19:19,325 --> 00:19:20,909 I suppose it does. 292 00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:24,412 Except that you're a democrat. 293 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:28,001 Teddy's former chief of staff. Did you hope I overlook that? 294 00:19:28,084 --> 00:19:31,296 Well, I was hoping you'd see that as a good thing. 295 00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:33,756 I mean, you said it yourself, this is a hot potato. 296 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:36,092 If you give it to the insider, 297 00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:39,262 you know, a party man, or a friend of the President, then… 298 00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:40,972 They blame us if it fails. 299 00:19:41,055 --> 00:19:42,055 Right. 300 00:19:43,307 --> 00:19:46,436 Pick me. It's the opposition's fault. 301 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:50,940 Unless for some reason, by some miracle I pull this off. 302 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:52,567 -In which case-- -Don't we look open-minded 303 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:55,151 reaching all the way cross town to find you. 304 00:19:56,215 --> 00:19:59,295 {\an8} OFFICES OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL 305 00:19:56,612 --> 00:20:00,740 It is felt. And I'm speaking for the White House here. 306 00:20:01,575 --> 00:20:04,579 For the program to succeed in staving off 307 00:20:04,662 --> 00:20:07,498 full-on economic cataclysm, 308 00:20:07,581 --> 00:20:12,252 no fewer than 80 percent of eligible claimants must opt in. 309 00:20:12,753 --> 00:20:16,131 That means voluntarily. Choose not to sue. 310 00:20:16,841 --> 00:20:19,050 That shouldn't be a problem. 311 00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:22,971 Well, congratulations, special master. 312 00:20:24,014 --> 00:20:25,807 You got any more surprises for me? 313 00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:26,892 Yeah. 314 00:20:27,393 --> 00:20:29,102 I'd like to work for free. 315 00:20:30,146 --> 00:20:33,189 Everyone, come in here for a… 316 00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:36,861 Camille and I want to thank you 317 00:20:36,944 --> 00:20:41,157 for shoveling the firm's day-to-day responsibilities 318 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,994 while we devote our time to this pro Bono. 319 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:47,163 It's not gonna be easy. 320 00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:48,984 And we sure welcome all of your help. 321 00:20:49,123 --> 00:20:51,358 But if we do our job 322 00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:55,004 the way I know we can, well…. 323 00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:56,838 We just might make a difference. 324 00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:00,216 So, thank you and… Thank you. 325 00:21:10,728 --> 00:21:12,730 This is your psyching yourself up 326 00:21:12,813 --> 00:21:15,273 for considering a quick escape. 327 00:21:16,609 --> 00:21:19,237 When was the last time I took one that I couldn't handle? 328 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,280 Brockton Track meet, 1971. 329 00:21:22,531 --> 00:21:23,574 I came in second. 330 00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:25,265 And you still remember who beat you? 331 00:21:25,326 --> 00:21:26,577 Felianado. 332 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:28,495 And I was robbed, by the way. 333 00:21:30,706 --> 00:21:32,495 You don't know how to lose, Kenny. 334 00:21:33,584 --> 00:21:35,336 Yeah, well, this one's… 335 00:21:35,419 --> 00:21:36,503 You know. 336 00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:38,880 Not that kind of case. 337 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,216 It is not winning. 338 00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:43,301 That's what I'm afraid of. 339 00:21:43,443 --> 00:21:44,390 Ken. 340 00:21:44,678 --> 00:21:45,762 The call for you. 341 00:21:46,388 --> 00:21:47,889 It's the President. 342 00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:52,562 -Will you take it here? -Yeah. 343 00:21:52,645 --> 00:21:53,728 Line one. 344 00:21:56,398 --> 00:21:58,234 Yeah, this is Ken Feinberg. 345 00:21:58,317 --> 00:21:59,651 Please hold for the President. 346 00:22:01,237 --> 00:22:03,531 -Hello, Mr. President. -Ken? 347 00:22:03,614 --> 00:22:05,491 -Is this Ken Feinberg? -Yeah. 348 00:22:05,574 --> 00:22:08,161 Ken, I wanna congratulate you on this thing. Yeah. 349 00:22:08,244 --> 00:22:09,871 -Ashcroft was impressed. -Well… 350 00:22:09,954 --> 00:22:12,540 But listen, you're taking the heat on this. OK? 351 00:22:12,623 --> 00:22:15,793 Now I would not wish this job on my worst enemy. 352 00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:19,170 They tell me you're the type of guy that takes no prisoners. 353 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:22,341 I'm kidding, Counselor. I'm kidding. I like to josh. 354 00:22:22,424 --> 00:22:24,175 -Did I scare you off? -No, Sir. 355 00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:26,262 No, Sir, I'm still here. 356 00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:28,014 -I'm still here. -Oh, up there, OK. Good. 357 00:22:28,097 --> 00:22:31,517 Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you very much. 358 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,603 You won't regret this. 359 00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:34,686 Better hope not. 360 00:22:36,647 --> 00:22:37,647 OK. 361 00:23:20,409 --> 00:23:22,484 NOVEMBER 26, 2001 362 00:23:58,395 --> 00:24:00,523 -Good morning. -Good morning. 363 00:24:00,606 --> 00:24:04,235 I assume you've all met, but this is Priya Khundi. 364 00:24:04,318 --> 00:24:07,779 Priya graduated first in my class, last year, Georgetown. 365 00:24:08,322 --> 00:24:10,992 And after she passed the bar I offered her a place here. 366 00:24:11,075 --> 00:24:14,704 But she very politely turned me down 367 00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:17,163 for a big fancy company down on Wall Street. 368 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:21,292 Their main office was on the 98th floor of the North Tower. 369 00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:24,921 So we're very lucky to have her. 370 00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:27,967 Do you all have copies of the statute? 371 00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:29,969 The HR 2926. 372 00:24:30,052 --> 00:24:33,806 "The Air Transportation Safety and System Stabilization Act." 373 00:24:33,889 --> 00:24:35,141 OK, who's read it? 374 00:24:35,766 --> 00:24:37,476 -Great. -Did it take you long? 375 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,020 -Not really. -You wanna know why? 376 00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:40,313 Because it's short. 377 00:24:40,396 --> 00:24:44,317 Yeah, that, and there's no law in this law. 378 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,694 What it says is that the victims and their families 379 00:24:46,770 --> 00:24:50,865 will be compensated based on economic value loss. 380 00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:54,285 What that means, they left up to the special master. 381 00:24:54,368 --> 00:24:57,663 Us. It's up to us to write the rules. 382 00:24:57,746 --> 00:25:00,750 Ken and I've done it before on other cases and it is always messy. 383 00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:02,627 So get ready for it. 384 00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:06,295 Like who's eligible, who gets how much, where do we draw the line. 385 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,131 Where do we start? 386 00:25:12,928 --> 00:25:14,180 Eighty percent, Priya. 387 00:25:14,263 --> 00:25:16,057 That's our target from the DOJ. 388 00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:18,392 If we don't hit that number the plan won't work. 389 00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:20,186 And if fewer claimants come aboard 390 00:25:20,269 --> 00:25:23,314 the lawsuits that result could crater the economy. 391 00:25:23,397 --> 00:25:25,604 -So we are told. -No pressure, people. 392 00:25:26,942 --> 00:25:30,821 Now, for every claimant we'll need to calculate a dollar value for the human loss, 393 00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:33,032 whether it's a loss of limb or loss of life. 394 00:25:33,449 --> 00:25:37,161 Most of the people who died that day were providers for their families. 395 00:25:37,244 --> 00:25:38,496 We can't bring them back, 396 00:25:38,579 --> 00:25:41,123 but we can help their loved ones pay their bills. 397 00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:42,474 Now, you people understand 398 00:25:42,574 --> 00:25:46,300 we're not gonna be able to haggle every case subjectively. 399 00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:48,547 That's where the math comes in. 400 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:51,382 So… we gonna need a rubric. 401 00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:55,044 These are the latest actuarial tables from the top casualty 402 00:25:55,144 --> 00:25:56,630 in life insurance companies. 403 00:25:56,722 --> 00:25:59,308 And we use this numbers as a basis. 404 00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,894 Yeah, you guys study up on these 405 00:26:01,977 --> 00:26:04,103 and help Camille come up with a proposal. 406 00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:07,817 OK, so West Street. 407 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:09,734 South Ferry. 408 00:26:10,027 --> 00:26:11,570 Lower Broadway. 409 00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:14,115 And Canal Street. 410 00:26:14,198 --> 00:26:15,728 OK, here's one. 411 00:26:16,299 --> 00:26:17,879 What if there multiple dependence? 412 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,370 How to decide who gets the money? 413 00:26:19,470 --> 00:26:21,080 Well, if there's a will we follow it. 414 00:26:21,163 --> 00:26:22,331 And where there isn't one? 415 00:26:22,414 --> 00:26:23,748 We follow state law. 416 00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:26,127 The state they died in or the state they came from? 417 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:27,693 The state of residence. 418 00:26:27,795 --> 00:26:29,255 What about domestic partners? 419 00:26:29,338 --> 00:26:30,797 What do we do about them? 420 00:26:33,217 --> 00:26:35,238 All right, let's talk about the deadline. 421 00:26:35,385 --> 00:26:38,639 The statute gives us two years and a month from today. 422 00:26:38,722 --> 00:26:41,701 That's December 22nd, 2003. 423 00:26:41,850 --> 00:26:43,060 That feels short. 424 00:26:43,143 --> 00:26:44,770 Not for families in grief. 425 00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:46,605 We could file for an extension. 426 00:26:46,688 --> 00:26:48,941 Nah, don't you dare. No. 427 00:26:49,062 --> 00:26:52,436 If we extend it. Go hem and haw. They won't act. 428 00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:55,696 That line is our friend here. 429 00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:58,324 OK. 430 00:26:59,493 --> 00:27:01,162 What are we forgetting? 431 00:27:01,245 --> 00:27:02,411 Their names. 432 00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:05,624 So far we have a dozen lists, but nothing comprehensive. 433 00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:10,379 Flight manifests and the Pentagon. Those are the easy ones. 434 00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:12,679 NYPD and FDNY, they have a list. 435 00:27:12,736 --> 00:27:16,385 And big companies like Cantor Fitzgerald, they're putting some list together. 436 00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:20,014 But as for the records of who passed through the doors that day. 437 00:27:20,097 --> 00:27:21,265 They are all gone. 438 00:27:21,348 --> 00:27:23,805 We don't even know how many names we're looking for. 439 00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:36,547 CHARLIE'S CHICKEN PICCATA 440 00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:43,971 TO THE MEMORY OF FIREFIGHTER NICHOLAS L. DONATO 441 00:29:39,987 --> 00:29:41,653 WE WILL NEVER FORGET 442 00:29:41,753 --> 00:29:43,134 TO OUR HEROES 443 00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:07,638 MIDTOWN, MANHATTAN 444 00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:19,235 Relax, we've done this kind of thing before. 445 00:30:19,318 --> 00:30:22,863 No, this one is raw, those aren't lawyers out there. 446 00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:24,989 Good. I can't stand lawyers. 447 00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:27,284 What are you, running for office? 448 00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:30,119 Come on, be a person not a politician. 449 00:30:34,201 --> 00:30:35,639 OK. Good luck. 450 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:36,667 Thank you. 451 00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:53,100 Good afternoon. 452 00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:55,271 Thank you for coming. 453 00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:57,690 As you may know, I am Kenneth Feinberg. 454 00:30:57,773 --> 00:30:59,694 I am the special master 455 00:31:00,157 --> 00:31:05,446 of the September 11th victim compensation fund. 456 00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:11,077 I would like today to tell you… 457 00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:17,835 Would like to tell you how the 9/11 fund will work. 458 00:31:17,918 --> 00:31:22,421 You've all been given copies of this, the presumptive claims formula. 459 00:31:22,964 --> 00:31:25,342 And quite soon 460 00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:30,346 we'll be sending this along to a Congress for a comment period. 461 00:31:31,098 --> 00:31:34,727 Upon approval there will be no further changes. 462 00:31:34,810 --> 00:31:36,395 -Mr. Feinberg. -I've got a question for you. 463 00:31:36,478 --> 00:31:38,230 -I'm sorry. -I've got a question for you. 464 00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:41,315 If you could can hold your questions till after my remarks. 465 00:31:41,942 --> 00:31:46,739 Now I'd ask you to refer to the table, the top, page two. 466 00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:54,246 So as you can see the formula is actually fairly streamlined. 467 00:31:54,329 --> 00:31:55,581 Why do we need one? 468 00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:57,166 Please… Just hold your questions. 469 00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:58,916 Why do we need a formula? 470 00:32:00,043 --> 00:32:02,378 Why isn't there an equal payment for everybody? 471 00:32:02,838 --> 00:32:06,507 My daughter's life is worth just as much as anybody's in the corner office. 472 00:32:07,092 --> 00:32:11,180 Unfortunately that aspect of a law has been out of our control. 473 00:32:11,263 --> 00:32:13,347 My boy was a firefighter. 474 00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:17,019 Was he worth less 475 00:32:17,102 --> 00:32:21,272 than the guy pushing pencils in trade stock? 476 00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:22,606 No. 477 00:32:25,527 --> 00:32:27,905 Certainly not as a human being, no. 478 00:32:27,988 --> 00:32:30,240 Their lives ended the same way. 479 00:32:30,323 --> 00:32:32,493 But their mortgages did differ. 480 00:32:32,576 --> 00:32:33,494 How dare you! 481 00:32:33,694 --> 00:32:36,038 He's just here to shut us so we don't sue. 482 00:32:37,267 --> 00:32:38,211 -Hi. -Hi. 483 00:32:38,311 --> 00:32:41,614 -Have they-- Has it started already? -They're just starting. You're fine. 484 00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:43,128 Would you like a claims form? 485 00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:46,131 No, I have my own. I printed it off the web. 486 00:32:46,214 --> 00:32:49,218 And there's a typo on page three that you should know about. 487 00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:52,638 And also there are… I should sign in here, right? 488 00:32:52,721 --> 00:32:54,138 Yes, please do. 489 00:32:57,267 --> 00:33:00,145 And there are more issues that need to be addressed. 490 00:33:00,228 --> 00:33:02,523 There are substantive. OK? And they need to be addressed. 491 00:33:02,606 --> 00:33:03,606 OK. 492 00:33:07,861 --> 00:33:10,572 I may propose… Look… As a legal professional 493 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:13,200 I know chasing a lawsuit is a big mistake. 494 00:33:13,283 --> 00:33:14,743 Did you lose anybody? 495 00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:16,703 -Hold on. -Did you lose anybody in your family? 496 00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:18,455 No. I just… Let me explain. 497 00:33:18,538 --> 00:33:24,169 Congress mandated that I calculate the economic value. 498 00:33:24,252 --> 00:33:26,212 Very good, economical. 499 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:27,213 Please. 500 00:33:27,747 --> 00:33:29,424 You're just afraid of being sued. 501 00:33:29,466 --> 00:33:31,218 I understand how you feel-- 502 00:33:31,301 --> 00:33:33,302 -Understand? -Please. 503 00:33:33,887 --> 00:33:36,515 -What I mean is that I sympathize. -Who did you lose? 504 00:33:36,565 --> 00:33:41,186 No, listen, as a legal professional I reiterate it will be years in court. 505 00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:43,020 You might win, you might not. 506 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:46,567 This is fast money and it's tax free. 507 00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:48,235 Put your thinking caps on. 508 00:33:48,318 --> 00:33:51,196 -This is the only game in town. -How dare you! 509 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:52,489 You think this is a game? 510 00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:54,114 No. I'm sorry. 511 00:33:56,243 --> 00:33:57,327 Who do you think you are? 512 00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:00,122 We lost brothers. Now they sent some Jew lawyer-- 513 00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:01,705 Hey! Hey! 514 00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:06,837 I wish we could spit on your grave the way you spit on ours. 515 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,339 -Please. Please -Wait everybody. Wait. 516 00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:13,384 This man, he did not cause our situation. 517 00:34:13,467 --> 00:34:18,265 He's here to tell us how the government intends to deal with it. 518 00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:21,559 And I for one would just like to hear him out. 519 00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:24,937 Thank you. 520 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:28,566 Thank you. And I was… Look… 521 00:34:31,610 --> 00:34:36,825 This meeting is only… It's purely introductory. 522 00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:41,455 That's it. Any questions you have that aren't answered in the pamphlet, 523 00:34:41,538 --> 00:34:45,792 I will make my staff available for private hearings. 524 00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:50,629 Every business day between now and the filing deadline. 525 00:34:57,012 --> 00:34:58,222 What do you think? 526 00:34:58,305 --> 00:35:01,308 Maybe poor choice of words here and there. 527 00:35:01,391 --> 00:35:02,683 Here and there. 528 00:35:03,518 --> 00:35:04,853 -Camille? -Yeah? 529 00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:06,271 We need to get back to the office. 530 00:35:06,354 --> 00:35:07,731 Mr. Feinberg? 531 00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:09,857 Mr. Feinberg, give me a minute, please. 532 00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:13,320 I'm Frank and I'm sorry to bother you… 533 00:35:13,403 --> 00:35:16,655 No, not at all. Hi. Ken Feinberg. 534 00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:18,909 What happened there? Did you break that? 535 00:35:18,992 --> 00:35:22,077 My son, Andy broke his last year. Rugby injury. 536 00:35:23,830 --> 00:35:25,039 South Tower. 537 00:35:29,336 --> 00:35:32,506 Jesus. Thank you for your courage. 538 00:35:32,671 --> 00:35:36,426 My brother too, Nick, Nicholas. Same line of company. 539 00:35:36,509 --> 00:35:38,302 Is he here? 540 00:35:42,432 --> 00:35:43,474 Well… 541 00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:45,644 Gosh… I'm sorry. 542 00:35:45,727 --> 00:35:49,773 Yeah. I've lost track of him after the first one fell and… 543 00:35:49,856 --> 00:35:51,899 The captain says he went back in to help. 544 00:35:52,609 --> 00:35:55,445 Well, that takes a hero. 545 00:35:55,528 --> 00:35:57,988 Yeah, except there wasn't any use. 546 00:35:58,323 --> 00:36:01,617 I mean the engineers. They knew the second one was coming down. 547 00:36:01,928 --> 00:36:03,412 They told PD to call the evacs 548 00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:04,997 but our radios. 549 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,331 -They're garbage. -Yeah. 550 00:36:06,448 --> 00:36:08,208 They hardly even work in high-rise buildings. 551 00:36:08,291 --> 00:36:10,459 If you believe that, in New York City. 552 00:36:11,044 --> 00:36:13,463 Look, we've been filing the same damn reports for years. 553 00:36:13,546 --> 00:36:15,841 And you can guess where it tells to shove them. 554 00:36:15,924 --> 00:36:17,634 That's why things went so sideways as they did. 555 00:36:17,803 --> 00:36:19,595 The negligence. Compound chief** 556 00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:20,761 fucking… 557 00:36:23,056 --> 00:36:24,473 -Sorry. -It's all right. 558 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,979 When you file your report, whatever it is that you do at the end of this. 559 00:36:29,062 --> 00:36:30,564 I want Nicky story in it. 560 00:36:30,647 --> 00:36:34,026 To make sure that they changed things so it doesn't ever happen this way again. 561 00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:35,344 -Can you do that? -Well… 562 00:36:35,402 --> 00:36:36,570 Can you promise me? 563 00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:40,073 -We can certainly look into that. -Not just talk. 564 00:36:40,156 --> 00:36:41,490 I want it to change. 565 00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:43,285 That's why I'm here. 566 00:36:43,368 --> 00:36:44,661 Why I'm still here. 567 00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:46,163 -I understand. -I believe that. 568 00:36:46,246 --> 00:36:47,247 Can you hold? 569 00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:49,581 Camille, can you come over here? 570 00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:54,212 -Frank, this is Camille Biros. -Hi. 571 00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:55,839 She's my deputy administrator. 572 00:36:55,922 --> 00:36:58,717 And if you talk to her she can explain the whole process. 573 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,427 I don't need anything else. I just… 574 00:37:02,303 --> 00:37:04,680 I need you to give me a word on this things, Mr. Feinberg. 575 00:37:05,356 --> 00:37:06,367 Ken. 576 00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:08,310 Then me and my wife, 577 00:37:08,393 --> 00:37:11,729 Nicky's widow, our whole family, we'll sign up for your fund, no problem. 578 00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:16,483 Yeah, well, we're certainly going to take a look at it. 579 00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:27,663 Website on the bottom. First meeting tomorrow. Here you go folks. 580 00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:30,622 First meeting tomorrow if you'd like to attend. First meeting. 581 00:37:39,841 --> 00:37:41,385 We need to talk about this. 582 00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:43,053 Yeah. Not now though. 583 00:37:43,136 --> 00:37:45,138 Website on the bottom, OK? 584 00:37:45,221 --> 00:37:46,890 -Hello. -Hi, how are you? 585 00:37:46,973 --> 00:37:50,018 Hey, I wanna thank you for your help back there. 586 00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:51,186 I gotta tell you I was… 587 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,961 Here you go. There's a website at the bottom there. 588 00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:56,608 Little worried when you stood up. But I'm glad you did. 589 00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:59,569 I believe in civility, Mr. Feinberg. 590 00:37:59,652 --> 00:38:00,987 -Yeah. -Charles Wolf. 591 00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:02,823 And you'll be seeing a lot of me. 592 00:38:02,906 --> 00:38:04,658 Good to know, and it's Ken. 593 00:38:04,741 --> 00:38:07,119 I think you gonna find that I'm one of your harshest critics. 594 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,579 Sorry to hear that. 595 00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:11,957 My wife died that day. 596 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,500 And everything about this formula offends me. 597 00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:18,630 Here you go. Take one of those please. And I'll give you one too. 598 00:38:18,713 --> 00:38:22,300 I've set up a page on the World Wide Web. The website, right there at the bottom. 599 00:38:22,383 --> 00:38:23,635 It's called fixthefund. 600 00:38:23,718 --> 00:38:28,140 Here you go, fixthefund. Here you go. There's two there. 601 00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:31,101 And if you'd like to visit it and would like to come to our meeting, 602 00:38:31,184 --> 00:38:32,936 we have a first meeting tomorrow. 603 00:38:33,019 --> 00:38:34,229 Here you go. Take that please. 604 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:37,733 And I'd love it if you would attend. Also I have this for you. 605 00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:41,319 This is something… There are a number of some corrections and things. 606 00:38:41,402 --> 00:38:43,697 And I think its very important that you address those. 607 00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:45,574 Here you are. Take this, folks. 608 00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,451 Take a look at the website on the bottom. 609 00:38:47,534 --> 00:38:49,119 Thank you. There's a couple of them there for you. 610 00:38:49,202 --> 00:38:50,661 -Nice. -OK. All right. 611 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,414 fixthefund 612 00:38:52,497 --> 00:38:55,417 -We're not gonna rewrite the formula. -They don't trust us, Ken. 613 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,335 They don't understand this is for their own good. 614 00:38:57,418 --> 00:39:00,756 The airlines would bury them in litigation until they have nothing left. 615 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:02,631 You think I don't know that? 616 00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:05,886 This is different. Didn't you feel it in there? 617 00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:08,430 I mean our other cases like this, Agent Orange, asbestos. 618 00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:10,807 Those were settled after years in court. People had moved on. 619 00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:12,476 These people aren't there yet. 620 00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:14,686 Camille, they're emotional right now. 621 00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:16,229 We need to be objective for them. 622 00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:20,399 Hey! Something for you, Feinberg. 623 00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:23,151 Fuck you! 624 00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:25,757 What? 625 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,347 O'Donnel T., CFO. Income: 750,000. 14,2 million. 626 00:39:58,354 --> 00:40:01,398 Dishwasher. Income: 23,015. 350 thousand. 627 00:40:11,636 --> 00:40:14,230 JANUARY 2002 23 MONTHS TO DEADLINE 628 00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:18,224 WALL STREET 629 00:40:19,427 --> 00:40:21,298 Families got in last night. 630 00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:24,756 O'Leary can't wait to help us out with the immigration status and the INS. 631 00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:27,215 So we'll use their conference room. 632 00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:33,013 You're coming? 633 00:40:42,231 --> 00:40:47,069 Sorry, it's just small spaces these days and heights. 634 00:40:47,779 --> 00:40:49,655 I'll be fine. 635 00:40:55,495 --> 00:40:56,830 I know you've been informed 636 00:40:56,913 --> 00:40:59,545 but I wanna reassure you that your citizenship 637 00:40:59,557 --> 00:41:00,895 or your immigration status 638 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:04,244 will have absolutely no affect on our process here today. 639 00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:07,589 Everything you tell us will be kept strictly confidential. 640 00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:42,500 We're all looking at your tables and not liking what we're seeing. 641 00:41:42,583 --> 00:41:45,128 You're only factoring in the yearly compensation. 642 00:41:45,211 --> 00:41:46,922 What about commissions, bonuses? 643 00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:48,298 We represent some high worth individuals. 644 00:41:48,381 --> 00:41:51,509 And that kind of income comes and goes. There's no guarantees with that. 645 00:41:51,592 --> 00:41:54,471 -That's why we stick to the salary. -That's unacceptable. Come on, Ken. 646 00:41:54,554 --> 00:41:57,098 You'll also have to strike this rule deducting life insurance. 647 00:41:57,181 --> 00:41:58,600 This is not a negotiation here. 648 00:41:58,683 --> 00:42:01,353 Why should our client's families be penalized for planning well? 649 00:42:01,436 --> 00:42:02,894 Come on. 650 00:42:03,479 --> 00:42:05,190 No one's being penalized. 651 00:42:05,273 --> 00:42:06,483 Thank you, Lee. 652 00:42:06,566 --> 00:42:10,111 We're just being paid off to keep our clients outta court. 653 00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:11,654 Well, that's an oversimplification. 654 00:42:11,754 --> 00:42:13,865 That's the purpose of the fund, Ken. 655 00:42:13,948 --> 00:42:16,450 I was in the room too, remember? 656 00:42:17,869 --> 00:42:21,456 I do wanna point out that the law requires 657 00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:24,167 we base awards on income 658 00:42:24,234 --> 00:42:27,462 but we've decided on a floor payout 659 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,422 for all lost lives 660 00:42:29,505 --> 00:42:31,506 of two hundred thousand dollars. 661 00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:54,719 I remind you that is just a minimum. 662 00:42:54,989 --> 00:42:57,076 Is that split between more people 663 00:42:57,283 --> 00:42:59,119 or just the families here? 664 00:42:59,202 --> 00:43:02,871 No, it's not a split at all. It's per decedent. 665 00:43:14,092 --> 00:43:18,178 This is a report by an economist, a distinguished one 666 00:43:18,846 --> 00:43:22,183 predicting future compensation growth rates for our clients. 667 00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:25,102 We suggest you use those numbers as a base line. 668 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,604 We're here as friends, Ken. 669 00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:29,232 Your formula maybe enough 670 00:43:29,327 --> 00:43:31,776 for waitresses at windows on the world 671 00:43:31,859 --> 00:43:34,194 but our clients expect a little more. 672 00:43:34,695 --> 00:43:37,697 And if they can't get it from the fund 673 00:43:38,407 --> 00:43:40,826 they'll seek that remuneration elsewhere. 674 00:43:43,546 --> 00:43:44,688 That bad? 675 00:43:46,082 --> 00:43:48,542 A pack of wolves out for blood. 676 00:43:49,001 --> 00:43:49,876 Yours? 677 00:43:50,247 --> 00:43:51,566 Grateful. 678 00:43:53,044 --> 00:43:56,165 MAY 2002 17 MONTHS TO DEADLINE 679 00:44:03,733 --> 00:44:05,813 Are they all here to meet with the staff? 680 00:44:05,928 --> 00:44:09,825 Yeah, Priya and the others are helping out. I'm meeting with as many as I can myself. 681 00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:11,441 Good. Very good. 682 00:44:11,524 --> 00:44:13,525 Most would rather meet with you, you know. 683 00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:16,613 They lost loved ones that are gone forever 684 00:44:16,696 --> 00:44:19,741 and nothing you do will fill that hole. 685 00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:23,161 And you'll feel cold and cruel at times 686 00:44:23,244 --> 00:44:25,038 because you can't make them happy 687 00:44:25,121 --> 00:44:26,121 but… 688 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,583 That's the job. 689 00:44:31,335 --> 00:44:33,670 Just try and remember why you're doing it. 690 00:44:42,305 --> 00:44:45,683 I hope this is all right. 691 00:44:45,766 --> 00:44:49,938 The stenographer will be here just to keep a record of our conversation. 692 00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:51,271 Sure. 693 00:44:52,148 --> 00:44:54,024 Why don't you… 694 00:44:54,817 --> 00:44:57,611 Why don't you tell me about your loved one. 695 00:44:58,070 --> 00:44:58,947 Anne Marie. 696 00:44:59,686 --> 00:45:01,513 Page 14. 697 00:45:02,658 --> 00:45:06,746 Part 2K talks about supporting documents I should enclose. 698 00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:09,332 The financial stuff. 699 00:45:09,415 --> 00:45:12,167 So I dug up all these files here. 700 00:45:13,211 --> 00:45:14,711 What I could find. 701 00:45:15,645 --> 00:45:17,897 Honestly I don't know where to start. 702 00:45:18,404 --> 00:45:20,367 Let's see if we can make sense of it. 703 00:45:22,569 --> 00:45:26,039 It asks here if she was suffering from any medical disabilities. 704 00:45:26,474 --> 00:45:27,517 What does that mean? 705 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,834 If she was you gonna cut the amount of money you're paying? 706 00:45:30,061 --> 00:45:31,271 Not necessarily. 707 00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:34,606 Bullshit you guys are pulling. This is like going to an insurance company. 708 00:45:34,847 --> 00:45:37,527 You gotta watch your back with every goddamn thing you say with them. 709 00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:38,860 And it's the same thing here. 710 00:45:40,279 --> 00:45:42,614 My kids need money for the both of us. 711 00:45:43,491 --> 00:45:45,325 The won't have anybody left. 712 00:45:51,457 --> 00:45:54,085 There's no way to cut me a cheque before the official deadline? 713 00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,797 That morning she was scheduled for a different plane. 714 00:45:58,381 --> 00:46:01,633 but another girl called in sick and so… 715 00:46:02,551 --> 00:46:04,344 It was my sister. 716 00:46:07,181 --> 00:46:10,392 And she's the one who called the tower on the radio. 717 00:46:12,561 --> 00:46:16,607 In a traffic control they pleaded for me. 718 00:46:18,192 --> 00:46:21,361 She must've been so scared. 719 00:46:24,699 --> 00:46:26,199 She sounded so calm. 720 00:46:28,244 --> 00:46:31,788 So elevators came and everybody piled on. 721 00:46:33,374 --> 00:46:35,585 But there wasn't enough room and so Greg said, 722 00:46:35,668 --> 00:46:37,544 "That's OK everyone. 723 00:46:38,421 --> 00:46:39,421 You go ahead." 724 00:46:42,174 --> 00:46:44,052 And there were two other women who weren't ready 725 00:46:44,135 --> 00:46:46,344 and so he said, "I'll wait with them." 726 00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:50,975 And so everyone else got out. 727 00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:53,018 And the another elevator never came. 728 00:46:55,730 --> 00:46:57,010 And I know that part of the story 729 00:46:57,110 --> 00:46:59,654 because he called me when they were trapped there 730 00:46:59,701 --> 00:47:05,560 to say that he loved me and the children. 731 00:47:06,907 --> 00:47:07,907 He said… 732 00:47:12,663 --> 00:47:14,164 Told me that he was trapped. 733 00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:18,002 And he was having difficulty breathing. 734 00:47:18,085 --> 00:47:20,309 And I could hear the women screaming in the background 735 00:47:20,409 --> 00:47:21,875 that they didn't wanna die. 736 00:47:25,134 --> 00:47:28,928 And just then he heard an announcement, they were… 737 00:47:29,472 --> 00:47:32,724 I heard it too. They were announcing on the loud speakers. 738 00:47:33,392 --> 00:47:35,185 Please evacuate the building. 739 00:47:38,481 --> 00:47:39,731 God, he has… 740 00:47:41,984 --> 00:47:44,319 He always had a sense of humor, and… 741 00:47:45,154 --> 00:47:47,864 While he was talking to me I actually started to laugh. 742 00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:50,784 He was joking to me and saying that, 743 00:47:52,078 --> 00:47:54,579 "I think I know I have to get out of the building." 744 00:47:55,706 --> 00:48:00,251 And he was laughing so hard until he said, "I have to go now. 745 00:48:01,212 --> 00:48:05,090 Because I can't talk anymore, because I'm having trouble with air." 746 00:48:33,202 --> 00:48:35,662 I know I'm not officially his next of kin. 747 00:48:37,957 --> 00:48:39,707 We never made it to Vermont. 748 00:48:42,086 --> 00:48:44,045 And Tom's parents don't… 749 00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:48,925 Well, they are pretty traditional military family. 750 00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:52,804 They pretend I don't exist. 751 00:48:56,058 --> 00:48:57,725 But I'm the one he called 752 00:48:58,686 --> 00:49:00,021 before the end. 753 00:49:00,104 --> 00:49:01,479 Not them. 754 00:49:06,902 --> 00:49:08,236 Machine picked up. 755 00:49:09,905 --> 00:49:11,239 I wasn't home. 756 00:49:14,535 --> 00:49:15,994 I'm so sorry. 757 00:49:17,204 --> 00:49:18,705 I know the rules. 758 00:49:20,082 --> 00:49:22,292 State law says we were nothing to each other. 759 00:49:26,046 --> 00:49:27,881 But I'd like you to hear his voice. 760 00:49:31,802 --> 00:49:33,044 Hi, hon. 761 00:49:33,137 --> 00:49:35,680 By now I guess you've heard about the mess in New York. 762 00:49:37,830 --> 00:49:42,103 Well, a plane just hit here too, and all of us inside of the building… 763 00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:46,067 OK, that's… Would you turn that off please? 764 00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:47,984 I don't know if they showed it on the news. 765 00:49:48,402 --> 00:49:49,611 That's enough. 766 00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:51,114 I love you. 767 00:49:51,197 --> 00:49:52,573 That's enough. Honestly. 768 00:49:56,619 --> 00:49:59,205 He was a civilian contractor at the Pentagon. 769 00:49:59,288 --> 00:50:02,792 They were gonna have a civil union but Tom's parents… 770 00:50:02,875 --> 00:50:04,919 They weren't even taking Graham's calls. 771 00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:06,129 And what did you tell him? 772 00:50:06,212 --> 00:50:10,383 I told him that Virginia state law has no protection for same-sex couples 773 00:50:10,466 --> 00:50:12,677 and our rules are tied to the state law. 774 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,638 Well, that's it then. I mean… Our hands are tied. 775 00:50:17,973 --> 00:50:21,644 -We can't insert ourselves-- -Why can't we make exceptions? 776 00:50:21,727 --> 00:50:23,062 There are others. 777 00:50:23,145 --> 00:50:26,190 Last week a widow came in with cancer. 778 00:50:26,273 --> 00:50:28,568 She needs more than we can give her by the rules. 779 00:50:28,651 --> 00:50:29,902 And she needs it expedited. 780 00:50:29,985 --> 00:50:33,030 We can't cherry pick one case over another. 781 00:50:33,113 --> 00:50:35,740 We can't write new rules for every claimant. 782 00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:37,743 I know this is personal to you. 783 00:50:37,826 --> 00:50:39,787 You weren't in those rooms. 784 00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:41,539 OK? You didn't listen to them. 785 00:50:41,622 --> 00:50:43,206 We're not therapists. 786 00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:47,710 Am I right? It's not our job. 787 00:50:49,046 --> 00:50:53,132 It's not like I don't care. Of course I care. 788 00:50:53,717 --> 00:50:56,012 How could you not care. That's why we're here. 789 00:50:56,095 --> 00:50:58,972 But I need to stay impartial for this to work. 790 00:50:59,265 --> 00:51:00,725 We set rules for a reason. 791 00:51:00,808 --> 00:51:02,935 We set deadlines for a reason. 792 00:51:03,018 --> 00:51:04,394 That's the job. 793 00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:06,354 Camille, go on, tell her. 794 00:51:14,697 --> 00:51:15,697 Priya. 795 00:51:18,367 --> 00:51:19,200 Hey. 796 00:51:20,369 --> 00:51:21,661 -Hey. -Are you OK? 797 00:51:22,246 --> 00:51:23,413 Yeah, just… 798 00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:26,751 He thinks I'm taking it too personally. 799 00:51:26,895 --> 00:51:28,835 Come on, that is utter lying. 800 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,339 I think he's right. 801 00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:36,134 It is personal for me. 802 00:51:39,138 --> 00:51:40,890 if I can't be objective 803 00:51:40,973 --> 00:51:42,765 then maybe I shouldn't be here. 804 00:51:45,978 --> 00:51:49,232 I think I just need some air. 805 00:51:49,411 --> 00:51:50,221 All right. 806 00:51:50,316 --> 00:51:53,089 Hey, see you tomorrow? 807 00:51:54,382 --> 00:51:55,462 Yeah. 808 00:52:13,255 --> 00:52:14,672 Holy… 809 00:52:16,008 --> 00:52:17,093 Gloria, 810 00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:19,887 call the restaurant 811 00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:22,515 and see if DeeDee and the kids are still eating dinner. 812 00:52:22,598 --> 00:52:24,225 Would you? Please 813 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,979 They called in an hour ago, Ken. The kids had trains to catch. 814 00:52:28,062 --> 00:52:30,647 They said to tell you though that they understand. 815 00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:32,108 Oh. 816 00:52:33,067 --> 00:52:34,025 All right. 817 00:52:53,337 --> 00:52:55,339 I understand and I'm sorry. 818 00:52:58,842 --> 00:53:01,533 Go back tomorrow. I'll make sure-- 819 00:53:02,531 --> 00:53:04,716 Is there a problem? Gloria? 820 00:53:05,974 --> 00:53:07,977 Ah, Mr. Donato, right? 821 00:53:08,060 --> 00:53:11,354 Yeah, we had an appointment but we had traffic so we're late. 822 00:53:12,189 --> 00:53:15,441 There's no one here. The whole staff is gone. 823 00:53:16,276 --> 00:53:17,862 Oh, well… 824 00:53:17,945 --> 00:53:20,448 I'll take this one. Come on in my office. 825 00:53:20,531 --> 00:53:21,656 Not me. 826 00:53:22,866 --> 00:53:24,033 Them. 827 00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:29,664 So… 828 00:53:31,291 --> 00:53:34,587 Frank told me about your husband. 829 00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:36,170 -Nick. -Yeah. 830 00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:38,715 Frank thinks this is a scam. 831 00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:42,427 He said it's like blood money to cover up mistakes. 832 00:53:42,761 --> 00:53:45,681 Well, at least you're open-minded. 833 00:53:45,764 --> 00:53:50,101 I just think that the boys might want their dad's story told in your report. 834 00:53:50,644 --> 00:53:52,021 If that's a thing. 835 00:53:52,104 --> 00:53:54,063 Sure. 836 00:53:56,942 --> 00:53:59,736 Are you gonna take notes or something? 837 00:54:02,114 --> 00:54:03,489 Right. 838 00:54:05,367 --> 00:54:10,580 Actually our stenographer already went home for the day. 839 00:54:13,125 --> 00:54:14,375 Can't you type? 840 00:54:25,471 --> 00:54:26,847 Hold one a minute here. 841 00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:28,055 Here we go. 842 00:54:29,506 --> 00:54:31,076 Why don't we… 843 00:54:32,019 --> 00:54:33,813 start with your name. 844 00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:36,272 OK. Karen Donato. 845 00:54:37,191 --> 00:54:38,608 My husband, Nick. 846 00:54:40,235 --> 00:54:42,987 Nicholas Donato was a NYC firefighter. 847 00:54:43,352 --> 00:54:46,617 Ladder 179, at the Staten Island. 848 00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:47,825 Yeah. 849 00:54:57,244 --> 00:54:58,326 Do you… 850 00:54:58,587 --> 00:55:00,338 Tell me more about him. 851 00:55:02,424 --> 00:55:05,635 Do you have like a list of questions you could ask me maybe? 852 00:55:07,930 --> 00:55:09,098 Well… 853 00:55:09,181 --> 00:55:10,891 Actually I don't… 854 00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:12,768 I don't usually do this part myself. 855 00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:14,478 Yeah, I just… It's… 856 00:55:14,561 --> 00:55:16,272 It's harder than I thought it's gonna be. 857 00:55:16,355 --> 00:55:17,688 Yeah, I understand. 858 00:55:18,982 --> 00:55:21,235 -Well, if you are uncomfortable-- -My husband of eight years 859 00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:23,611 and I can't even think of anything to say about him. 860 00:55:25,113 --> 00:55:26,864 Well… 861 00:55:27,407 --> 00:55:29,909 He must've been a good dad. 862 00:55:30,847 --> 00:55:32,031 Yeah. 863 00:55:32,086 --> 00:55:34,082 Oh, God. He was a great dad. 864 00:55:34,317 --> 00:55:36,643 He would come home every night after work, 865 00:55:37,005 --> 00:55:38,953 he'd throw the ball at Franky Jr. 866 00:55:39,033 --> 00:55:41,197 He would read Patty a book. 867 00:55:41,255 --> 00:55:43,466 He didn't even mind when Tyler made number two. 868 00:55:43,549 --> 00:55:45,508 He said he liked changing diapers. 869 00:55:45,843 --> 00:55:47,593 That's a hero. 870 00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:51,493 Yeah. 871 00:55:56,311 --> 00:55:57,728 He was my whole world. 872 00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:03,235 Can I have a tissue, please? 873 00:56:03,318 --> 00:56:04,360 Yeah. 874 00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:09,700 Here we go. 875 00:56:09,783 --> 00:56:10,825 Thank you. 876 00:56:12,828 --> 00:56:14,620 You know everybody keeps telling me 877 00:56:15,497 --> 00:56:16,789 to move on. 878 00:56:17,916 --> 00:56:19,584 I don't know how to do that. 879 00:56:21,587 --> 00:56:23,130 I'm never gonna get over him. 880 00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:24,632 Well, it's still very soon. 881 00:56:24,715 --> 00:56:26,132 No, never! 882 00:56:27,843 --> 00:56:29,678 -I'm really sorry. -No. 883 00:56:29,761 --> 00:56:31,512 -That's all right. Look… -I'm sorry. 884 00:56:31,847 --> 00:56:35,100 I just want you to know there's no pressure signing under the fund today. 885 00:56:35,183 --> 00:56:36,852 And your status as a single mother-- 886 00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:38,979 No, I'm not gonna take any money. 887 00:56:39,062 --> 00:56:40,397 Not now. No, but… 888 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,859 No, there's no money in the world that's good enough for Nick. 889 00:56:43,942 --> 00:56:45,110 I didn't mean… 890 00:56:45,193 --> 00:56:47,112 I had him in my life. 891 00:56:47,195 --> 00:56:48,696 We had so many… 892 00:56:51,909 --> 00:56:53,868 dreams and plans. 893 00:56:56,496 --> 00:56:58,331 And things we were gonna do. 894 00:56:59,958 --> 00:57:02,793 And it was just gone. It was gone. 895 00:57:04,338 --> 00:57:07,256 He didn't even eat breakfast. He was just gone. 896 00:57:10,886 --> 00:57:12,638 And now you're trying to give me money. 897 00:57:12,667 --> 00:57:14,348 Frank wants me to make a stand. 898 00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:17,810 There are lawyers calling me and telling me to sue everybody. 899 00:57:17,893 --> 00:57:20,853 And the phone just won't stop ringing. 900 00:57:21,521 --> 00:57:23,691 But it's never the phone call that I want. 901 00:57:23,774 --> 00:57:26,275 It's never the call saying that they found his body. 902 00:57:26,902 --> 00:57:28,988 That they're gonna bring him home. 903 00:57:29,071 --> 00:57:30,696 And no offense, 904 00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:35,828 I just want you, I want all of you to please stop calling me. 905 00:57:36,052 --> 00:57:38,025 Please leave me alone. 906 00:57:41,223 --> 00:57:42,410 I'm sorry. 907 00:57:43,961 --> 00:57:45,754 I'm sorry I wasted your time. 908 00:58:18,787 --> 00:58:19,829 Kenny? 909 00:58:23,291 --> 00:58:24,834 I met a widow today. 910 00:58:26,628 --> 00:58:27,753 Three kids. 911 00:58:29,423 --> 00:58:30,798 Can you imagine? 912 00:58:35,828 --> 00:58:37,228 No. 913 00:58:39,558 --> 00:58:41,017 I didn't know what to say. 914 00:58:45,063 --> 00:58:47,398 Sometimes there isn't anything to say. 915 00:59:04,374 --> 00:59:06,625 Tower is blocked. 916 00:59:07,044 --> 00:59:09,170 Can you reach-- 917 00:59:10,756 --> 00:59:12,424 Oh, God. I'll call when I get out. 918 00:59:12,507 --> 00:59:15,094 People are collapsing from the smoke. 919 00:59:15,177 --> 00:59:17,762 Bye, bye. Sorry. 920 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,808 Hi, Anna. 921 00:59:23,393 --> 00:59:25,978 By now I guess you've heard about the mess in New York. 922 00:59:27,981 --> 00:59:33,152 Well, a plane just hit here too. On the western side of the building. 923 00:59:42,287 --> 00:59:44,705 FIX THE FUND 924 00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:54,256 WHY IS THE VICTIM COMPENSATION FUND UNFAIR? 925 01:00:00,470 --> 01:00:03,265 This is not the preferred option of the President of the United States 926 01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:05,059 or any member of this body, 927 01:00:05,143 --> 01:00:06,894 this is the last option. 928 01:00:07,395 --> 01:00:09,063 We can make the case. 929 01:00:10,139 --> 01:00:12,860 That it is obvious that Saddam Hussein continues 930 01:00:12,918 --> 01:00:16,361 this build up of weapons of mass destruction and his desire 931 01:00:16,389 --> 01:00:19,871 to network even up to an including nuclear weapons. 932 01:00:20,502 --> 01:00:23,662 But we are not the ones who's forcing this issue. 933 01:00:23,745 --> 01:00:26,415 The President of the United States and his resolution is not forcing an issue. 934 01:00:26,498 --> 01:00:29,501 It is Saddam Hussein who's forcing this issue. 935 01:00:29,543 --> 01:00:32,002 But we will if it comes to this debate… 936 01:00:34,756 --> 01:00:38,093 Next stop on this Express train is New York Penn Station. 937 01:00:38,176 --> 01:00:40,636 Next stop - New York Penn Station. 938 01:00:39,089 --> 01:00:41,097 {\an8} PRIYA KHUNDI, ESQ. KYLE AND MACALLAN 939 01:00:58,647 --> 01:00:59,880 FIX THE FUND 940 01:00:59,979 --> 01:01:02,044 FED UP WITH THE 9/11 VICTIM COMPENSATION FUND? 941 01:01:19,217 --> 01:01:21,051 Excuse me for a moment, please. 942 01:01:26,725 --> 01:01:29,143 Thank you. We'll start in a few minutes. 943 01:01:29,644 --> 01:01:31,480 An enemy in our amidst. 944 01:01:31,563 --> 01:01:33,003 -Hi. -Hi. Priya Khundi. 945 01:01:33,087 --> 01:01:34,421 Yes, I remember. 946 01:01:34,858 --> 01:01:37,569 Did Mr Feinberg send you here to 947 01:01:37,652 --> 01:01:39,820 spy on us or to listen? 948 01:01:40,499 --> 01:01:42,250 Actually, he doesn't know I came. 949 01:01:43,742 --> 01:01:46,620 Must be easier for him if we just remain numbers, right? 950 01:01:46,703 --> 01:01:47,870 More manageable. 951 01:01:48,827 --> 01:01:50,787 He's right. It is. 952 01:01:51,249 --> 01:01:53,083 I understand, yeah, yeah. 953 01:01:54,252 --> 01:01:55,461 But you came. 954 01:01:56,087 --> 01:01:58,505 Yeah, I've been following your blog. 955 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,968 Your wife, Catherine, 956 01:02:01,051 --> 01:02:03,470 she had a job at Kyle & Macallan. 957 01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:04,972 Yes, yeah. 958 01:02:05,055 --> 01:02:08,265 That, was her dream job. 959 01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:11,518 It would have been mine too. 960 01:02:13,063 --> 01:02:16,482 It was… I was gonna start that week. 961 01:02:17,567 --> 01:02:18,859 Oh, my… 962 01:02:21,655 --> 01:02:23,572 Well, I'm glad that… 963 01:02:27,369 --> 01:02:29,036 So, can I ask you then? 964 01:02:32,123 --> 01:02:34,084 What would your life be worth 965 01:02:34,167 --> 01:02:36,961 on your boss's spreadsheet? 966 01:02:37,837 --> 01:02:39,838 I'm not married, so, 967 01:02:40,423 --> 01:02:41,884 less than Catherine's. 968 01:02:41,967 --> 01:02:43,467 And do you think that's fair? 969 01:02:45,595 --> 01:02:46,595 No. 970 01:02:46,930 --> 01:02:48,347 But your boss does. 971 01:02:48,807 --> 01:02:51,308 He doesn't think fair exists. 972 01:02:52,102 --> 01:02:53,060 Do you? 973 01:02:53,645 --> 01:02:54,770 Honestly, 974 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,522 I don't know. 975 01:02:57,857 --> 01:03:00,317 But, I did come here to listen. 976 01:03:07,730 --> 01:03:11,316 DECEMBER 2002 977 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,058 {\an8} COMMITED 12 % GOAL 80 % 978 01:03:12,706 --> 01:03:15,250 This is the latest, huh? This is… You sure 979 01:03:15,333 --> 01:03:16,210 this is the latest? 980 01:03:16,293 --> 01:03:18,212 These totals are accurate? 981 01:03:18,295 --> 01:03:19,712 Technically, we rounded up. 982 01:03:20,839 --> 01:03:22,339 It's all right, it's OK. 983 01:03:22,841 --> 01:03:24,676 We're still 12 months out. That's eternity. 984 01:03:24,759 --> 01:03:26,970 It's like I say, people will wait for a deadline. 985 01:03:27,053 --> 01:03:28,430 They're just avoiding it for now. 986 01:03:28,513 --> 01:03:32,351 They are not avoiding it. They're just avoiding us. 987 01:03:32,434 --> 01:03:33,642 I mean, look at this. 988 01:03:34,602 --> 01:03:36,313 Oh yeah, yeah, "Fix the Fund," 989 01:03:36,396 --> 01:03:39,650 I remember, yeah, this is my pal, it's my buddy from the Town Hall. 990 01:03:39,733 --> 01:03:44,321 His web page is receiving more than twice the visits ours does everyday. 991 01:03:44,404 --> 01:03:47,324 He's got a mailing list of almost 7000 names. 992 01:03:47,407 --> 01:03:48,991 So does that phone book. 993 01:03:49,701 --> 01:03:51,035 I went to see him. 994 01:03:51,202 --> 01:03:52,619 I told her it was OK to go. 995 01:03:52,865 --> 01:03:54,032 Look, he is a leader. 996 01:03:54,179 --> 01:03:57,167 -He is a gadfly. -But he's earning peoples' trust. 997 01:03:57,250 --> 01:03:59,962 Every income level, first responders. 998 01:04:00,045 --> 01:04:01,713 That's what we should be doing. 999 01:04:01,796 --> 01:04:04,340 If he says so, all of them will sue. 1000 01:04:06,676 --> 01:04:08,136 What's he asking for? 1001 01:04:08,219 --> 01:04:09,928 Maybe you should ask him yourself. 1002 01:04:27,489 --> 01:04:28,572 Charles. 1003 01:04:30,325 --> 01:04:31,410 Mr Feinberg. 1004 01:04:31,493 --> 01:04:34,370 I'm sorry, they left you in here with the music running. 1005 01:04:35,622 --> 01:04:37,664 -Soothes the soul. -Yeah. 1006 01:04:38,458 --> 01:04:41,835 Yeah, this was the Lincoln Center cast if I'm not mistaken. 1007 01:04:42,128 --> 01:04:45,047 Bartoli was other-worldly. 1008 01:04:45,635 --> 01:04:47,509 Wow! You're an opera fan. 1009 01:04:47,592 --> 01:04:48,927 I was on the board that year. 1010 01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:51,305 My wife, Catherine, she was… 1011 01:04:51,388 --> 01:04:54,391 She sang soprano in an amateur touring choir 1012 01:04:54,474 --> 01:04:56,601 I sang tenor, and that's how we met. 1013 01:04:56,684 --> 01:04:59,144 Well, she must have had a lovely voice. 1014 01:05:01,324 --> 01:05:02,623 Yeah. 1015 01:05:04,692 --> 01:05:06,902 Would that help her fit into your formula? 1016 01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:10,574 Do you read my website? 1017 01:05:10,657 --> 01:05:14,369 I will confess I don't because I'm not a computer guy. 1018 01:05:14,452 --> 01:05:17,121 My staff handles all that and… 1019 01:05:17,831 --> 01:05:20,332 They tell me you're very reasonable man 1020 01:05:20,491 --> 01:05:21,614 and as I understand it, 1021 01:05:21,697 --> 01:05:24,245 you've taken on somewhat of a leadership role 1022 01:05:24,337 --> 01:05:27,714 amongst the people that we serve. 1023 01:05:28,466 --> 01:05:30,426 Nice, good, good. 1024 01:05:32,303 --> 01:05:33,263 Why don't we talk? 1025 01:05:33,346 --> 01:05:35,097 That's why I'm here. 1026 01:05:37,892 --> 01:05:39,394 Tell me what you want. 1027 01:05:40,186 --> 01:05:44,649 Because, we could make some adjustments. We could… 1028 01:05:44,732 --> 01:05:46,650 you know, raise the baselines. 1029 01:05:47,694 --> 01:05:49,695 So, you think this is about the money? 1030 01:05:51,156 --> 01:05:52,114 Of course, yeah. 1031 01:05:52,407 --> 01:05:53,533 That it's greed? 1032 01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:57,204 No, no. Not greed. 1033 01:05:57,295 --> 01:05:59,581 Money, yes. Greed, no. 1034 01:05:59,664 --> 01:06:02,376 Money, puts food on peoples' tables 1035 01:06:02,459 --> 01:06:04,252 and it puts roofs over peoples' heads. 1036 01:06:04,350 --> 01:06:06,797 There's nothing dirty in it, the meaning about it. 1037 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,842 But, let's not pretend like it doesn't matter. 1038 01:06:10,925 --> 01:06:13,177 It does, it helps people move on. 1039 01:06:14,846 --> 01:06:15,888 Who? 1040 01:06:18,171 --> 01:06:20,437 -What do you mean "who"? -Do you know any of our names? 1041 01:06:21,102 --> 01:06:23,063 Have you met any of us yourself? 1042 01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:25,438 As a matter of fact, I have, yeah. 1043 01:06:27,775 --> 01:06:29,234 And what were they worth? 1044 01:06:30,701 --> 01:06:35,032 Well now, you're talking about numbers and you're pretending… 1045 01:06:35,116 --> 01:06:36,116 Throw it out. 1046 01:06:36,534 --> 01:06:38,787 Throw what out? 1047 01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:39,948 Throw out your formula. 1048 01:06:40,034 --> 01:06:41,039 I can't. 1049 01:06:41,122 --> 01:06:43,834 I can't. We need to have something rational. 1050 01:06:43,917 --> 01:06:46,420 I got it, I understand, I got it. 1051 01:06:46,503 --> 01:06:50,128 But, my wife is not a statistic. 1052 01:06:50,236 --> 01:06:51,666 No, certainly not, but, 1053 01:06:51,908 --> 01:06:53,927 we do have to go by a set of rules. 1054 01:06:54,010 --> 01:06:55,095 OK. 1055 01:06:55,178 --> 01:06:57,139 Will your rules help Graham Morris? 1056 01:06:57,931 --> 01:06:58,890 Graham Morris. 1057 01:06:58,973 --> 01:07:01,765 His partner died two weeks before their civil ceremony. 1058 01:07:01,851 --> 01:07:04,479 But your fund would give his full claim to his parents 1059 01:07:04,562 --> 01:07:06,106 who condemned his lifestyle. 1060 01:07:06,189 --> 01:07:08,316 -I recall it. -They were estranged, 1061 01:07:08,399 --> 01:07:11,653 completely estranged, Mr Feinberg. Is that fair? 1062 01:07:11,736 --> 01:07:13,405 But we're just the administrators on that… 1063 01:07:13,503 --> 01:07:15,586 All right, let's go to the section of your rules 1064 01:07:15,609 --> 01:07:19,286 that limits injuries to only those that occurred right away. 1065 01:07:19,369 --> 01:07:21,634 Because we have clean-up workers who come into our meetings 1066 01:07:21,734 --> 01:07:22,956 and they have polyps from asbestos. 1067 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,040 -I think you think that… -They were on that site for weeks. 1068 01:07:25,124 --> 01:07:27,085 For weeks, breathing in that crap. 1069 01:07:27,168 --> 01:07:30,338 But, according to your rules, unless they got to that site 1070 01:07:30,421 --> 01:07:32,299 within three days of the attack… 1071 01:07:32,382 --> 01:07:35,093 That's because we have to draw the line somewhere. 1072 01:07:35,176 --> 01:07:40,013 If we award every worker who was injured on that site, I mean, 1073 01:07:40,807 --> 01:07:42,809 where does it end, you understand? 1074 01:07:42,892 --> 01:07:44,769 I don't know, you tell me. 1075 01:07:44,852 --> 01:07:46,062 That's up to you. 1076 01:07:47,397 --> 01:07:51,026 The law gives you broad discretion as special master, does it not? 1077 01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:52,527 -Yes. It does. -OK. 1078 01:07:52,610 --> 01:07:55,614 And responsibilities. Responsibilities to the tax payers, 1079 01:07:55,697 --> 01:07:57,115 to objectivity, 1080 01:07:57,198 --> 01:07:59,910 I can't bend the rules for every case 1081 01:07:59,993 --> 01:08:01,578 that doesn't fit the mold. 1082 01:08:01,661 --> 01:08:02,828 Why not? 1083 01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:04,788 Congress did. 1084 01:08:06,291 --> 01:08:07,583 You know they did. 1085 01:08:08,209 --> 01:08:11,755 When the law said that we could sue two airlines out of business 1086 01:08:11,838 --> 01:08:15,091 Congress re-wrote that law like that 1087 01:08:15,174 --> 01:08:16,551 in a day. 1088 01:08:16,634 --> 01:08:17,928 Why? 1089 01:08:18,011 --> 01:08:21,056 Because the big corporations asked them to. 1090 01:08:21,139 --> 01:08:25,936 But when 7000 citizens come to you and they ask you for respect, 1091 01:08:26,019 --> 01:08:28,812 and they ask you not to be treated like some numbers on a spreadsheet 1092 01:08:28,904 --> 01:08:31,607 you act like that law came down from messiah now? 1093 01:08:32,274 --> 01:08:34,945 Please, Mr Feinberg, don't, don't. 1094 01:08:35,028 --> 01:08:37,321 Don't tell me you can't give us what we want 1095 01:08:37,404 --> 01:08:40,492 just tell us that we are not the top priority. 1096 01:08:40,575 --> 01:08:41,825 Admit that 1097 01:08:42,493 --> 01:08:43,744 to yourself. 1098 01:09:01,638 --> 01:09:03,889 -Hello? -Is this Kenneth Feinberg? 1099 01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:05,209 Come here, come here. 1100 01:09:05,928 --> 01:09:06,767 Goddamnit. 1101 01:09:06,850 --> 01:09:07,644 Hello. 1102 01:09:07,727 --> 01:09:09,521 Hi, is this Kenneth Feinberg? 1103 01:09:09,604 --> 01:09:10,939 Yes, who's this? 1104 01:09:11,022 --> 01:09:13,984 Martin Cuthbert, sir. We haven't met. 1105 01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:16,360 I represent a claimant to your fund. 1106 01:09:17,111 --> 01:09:18,821 Uh, this is a private line, 1107 01:09:18,904 --> 01:09:20,782 fund matter should go through my office. 1108 01:09:20,865 --> 01:09:23,702 Right, the office, yes. I spoke to someone at the office 1109 01:09:23,785 --> 01:09:26,327 who said you took the meeting on this case yourself. 1110 01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:31,376 It's a young woman, by the name of Karen Donato, widow of Nicholas. 1111 01:09:31,459 --> 01:09:33,044 Yes, we spoke. 1112 01:09:33,127 --> 01:09:35,297 He was fireman with three sons 1113 01:09:35,380 --> 01:09:39,383 aged eight, six and four. 1114 01:09:39,466 --> 01:09:41,218 -Look… -What's this about? 1115 01:09:41,301 --> 01:09:43,471 Well, it's an unusual scenario, you see. 1116 01:09:43,554 --> 01:09:46,516 Look, I don't mean to cause you any trouble, Mr Feinberg. 1117 01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:47,726 Ken, Ken, 1118 01:09:47,809 --> 01:09:50,227 go ahead, I'm used to it. -All right, well, Ken 1119 01:09:50,310 --> 01:09:54,147 you see, my client, Melanie Veil was Mr Donato's mistress. 1120 01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:59,029 I'm not so… I'm not sure I heard correctly. 1121 01:09:59,112 --> 01:10:01,740 You heard correctly, Melanie Veil and Nick Donato 1122 01:10:01,823 --> 01:10:06,119 have two daughters on their own ages one, three, at the time of the attack. 1123 01:10:06,202 --> 01:10:08,622 I have DNA results to prove fraternity. 1124 01:10:08,705 --> 01:10:11,164 And my secretary can fax them over to your office. 1125 01:10:13,084 --> 01:10:14,334 Mr Feinberg? 1126 01:10:14,796 --> 01:10:15,942 Yes. 1127 01:10:17,755 --> 01:10:21,174 All right, I'm looking forward to going over the papers. 1128 01:10:21,843 --> 01:10:23,928 Like I said, I'm not trying to make trouble here 1129 01:10:24,011 --> 01:10:27,432 I just want you to know that when you cut that cheque for Mr Donato's wife 1130 01:10:27,515 --> 01:10:30,642 it needs to go to five children instead of three. 1131 01:10:32,186 --> 01:10:34,646 I look forward to hearing from you soon. 1132 01:11:02,284 --> 01:11:03,425 Hey, mister. 1133 01:11:09,098 --> 01:11:12,102 So your office said that you had some more question about Nick. 1134 01:11:12,185 --> 01:11:16,609 Yeah. Really, it's more just of a record keeping thing. 1135 01:11:16,610 --> 01:11:18,524 Cause I already told you that we don't want the money. 1136 01:11:18,531 --> 01:11:20,192 Of course, yeah. 1137 01:11:21,194 --> 01:11:24,030 Oh look, there's your wedding pictures. 1138 01:11:24,113 --> 01:11:25,071 No. 1139 01:11:25,782 --> 01:11:28,451 OK, this is just for show. 1140 01:11:28,534 --> 01:11:30,453 The real one was at City Hall 1141 01:11:30,536 --> 01:11:33,580 before I was, you know, as big as a circus tent. 1142 01:11:35,066 --> 01:11:39,036 You know, I told them that I didn't need anything of grand and fancy 1143 01:11:39,086 --> 01:11:41,630 just to prove that he love me, but, uh 1144 01:11:42,117 --> 01:11:45,176 you know, he worked doubles for a whole year. 1145 01:11:45,266 --> 01:11:49,269 He wouldn't take a nickle from my family or anybody. 1146 01:11:50,139 --> 01:11:52,057 Just so we could have that picture on the wall. 1147 01:11:53,434 --> 01:11:54,518 He was like that. 1148 01:11:56,771 --> 01:11:57,606 And that, 1149 01:11:57,755 --> 01:12:00,859 I'm assuming Nicky Jr. there? 1150 01:12:02,068 --> 01:12:03,360 Oh, no… 1151 01:12:04,612 --> 01:12:08,241 That was a girl. We lost her. She was a preemie. 1152 01:12:08,324 --> 01:12:10,785 -Oh, I'm sorry. -That's OK. 1153 01:12:10,868 --> 01:12:12,035 Eden. 1154 01:12:13,644 --> 01:12:17,480 Most dads don't want little girls but Nicky always did. 1155 01:12:19,377 --> 01:12:20,295 Hey. 1156 01:12:21,128 --> 01:12:24,132 You didn't need to come. Sorry, excuse me. 1157 01:12:24,215 --> 01:12:25,425 You didn't have to come. 1158 01:12:25,508 --> 01:12:27,750 -I got the cereal for the kids. -Well, thank you. 1159 01:12:28,023 --> 01:12:29,563 Hey, hey! 1160 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,931 -I'll be right back, I'm sorry. -Sure. 1161 01:12:32,723 --> 01:12:33,723 Hi, Frank. 1162 01:12:34,684 --> 01:12:36,101 I just wanted to… 1163 01:12:37,345 --> 01:12:38,774 discuss Nick's claim. 1164 01:12:40,064 --> 01:12:41,857 I already told you we're not making one. 1165 01:12:42,441 --> 01:12:44,276 Yeah. I know, of course. But I just… 1166 01:12:44,577 --> 01:12:47,455 You know, just in case Karen decides to… 1167 01:12:47,530 --> 01:12:49,489 Let me kind of show you something. 1168 01:12:52,076 --> 01:12:54,494 This, I wanna show this number here. 1169 01:12:57,122 --> 01:13:00,710 That's just uh… that's a presumptive calculation. 1170 01:13:00,793 --> 01:13:03,461 -That means it's… -I know what it means. To presume. 1171 01:13:09,302 --> 01:13:11,803 You and Nick were very close. 1172 01:13:14,450 --> 01:13:15,521 Yeah. 1173 01:13:16,684 --> 01:13:18,101 He's my kid brother. 1174 01:13:20,244 --> 01:13:23,163 So, I have to assume you would know 1175 01:13:23,774 --> 01:13:26,776 if there was something that Nick 1176 01:13:27,904 --> 01:13:30,780 wouldn't necessarily want Karen to know. 1177 01:13:34,952 --> 01:13:36,328 My brother was a family man. 1178 01:13:36,954 --> 01:13:38,830 Of course, of course, yeah. 1179 01:13:42,993 --> 01:13:44,406 We're not signing nothing. 1180 01:13:44,962 --> 01:13:48,675 Frank, this is money for those boys, it's tax free. 1181 01:13:48,757 --> 01:13:49,856 It's not everyday that the government… 1182 01:13:49,935 --> 01:13:51,928 They get to hang cause of people like you 1183 01:13:52,011 --> 01:13:53,470 holding the purse strings. 1184 01:13:54,055 --> 01:13:56,234 Now you think you could come here and make it right 1185 01:13:56,359 --> 01:13:57,849 by throwing some money on his grave? 1186 01:14:02,396 --> 01:14:03,730 Get out of his house. 1187 01:14:06,525 --> 01:14:07,442 All right. 1188 01:14:32,009 --> 01:14:34,135 So, this is Tom Junior. 1189 01:14:34,762 --> 01:14:36,554 Don't you think he looks older? 1190 01:14:37,139 --> 01:14:41,351 Tom Junior's the one not in uniform. He was a civilian contractor. 1191 01:14:41,727 --> 01:14:44,689 His brother, Dave, rejoined to fight for him. 1192 01:14:44,772 --> 01:14:46,065 That's very brave. 1193 01:14:46,148 --> 01:14:48,149 They were only 11 months apart. 1194 01:14:48,693 --> 01:14:51,069 Like two peas in a pod growing up. 1195 01:14:52,321 --> 01:14:55,199 I had a chance to meet Tom's partner, Graham Morris. 1196 01:14:55,282 --> 01:14:56,326 The gold digger. 1197 01:14:56,409 --> 01:14:57,612 Tom… 1198 01:14:59,412 --> 01:15:03,115 What my husband means to say is that man is a liar. 1199 01:15:03,624 --> 01:15:07,378 He and Tom were living together, he said that they had plans to… 1200 01:15:07,461 --> 01:15:09,212 They were room-mates. 1201 01:15:10,256 --> 01:15:13,008 Tom had girlfriends, he was… 1202 01:15:13,676 --> 01:15:15,345 -Mrs? -Biros. 1203 01:15:15,428 --> 01:15:18,056 Mrs Biros, this boy 1204 01:15:18,146 --> 01:15:22,192 had a long history of being infatuated with our son. 1205 01:15:22,275 --> 01:15:25,152 He tried to get his hooks in him but Tom didn't… 1206 01:15:27,506 --> 01:15:29,232 We knew our son. 1207 01:15:29,942 --> 01:15:34,195 These guys just crawl out of the wood-work. 1208 01:15:35,448 --> 01:15:37,615 I'm sure your office sees a lot of those. 1209 01:15:39,952 --> 01:15:41,745 I didn't get that sense from him. 1210 01:15:43,497 --> 01:15:45,165 Isn't that always the way? 1211 01:15:56,635 --> 01:15:59,347 Rumor has it that your numbers are a little stagnant. 1212 01:15:59,430 --> 01:16:00,723 There's still plenty of time. 1213 01:16:00,805 --> 01:16:03,809 Well, you had plenty of time and you signed what, 900? 1214 01:16:03,893 --> 01:16:05,894 That's not enough, Ken. 1215 01:16:08,481 --> 01:16:13,194 You know, I um… I sat down with your friend, Charles Wolf. 1216 01:16:13,277 --> 01:16:15,447 Wolf, well, good luck with him. 1217 01:16:15,780 --> 01:16:17,699 He's fighting for the left behind, by the way. 1218 01:16:17,782 --> 01:16:20,026 He's not trying to help the rich get richer. 1219 01:16:20,443 --> 01:16:24,155 See, it's that kinda accusation has people calling you insensitive. 1220 01:16:24,246 --> 01:16:25,246 Doesn't matter. 1221 01:16:27,291 --> 01:16:29,919 Anyway, I emphasized our common ground. 1222 01:16:30,009 --> 01:16:32,714 A rising tide leaps all boats. 1223 01:16:32,804 --> 01:16:35,890 I think I'm mixing the metaphor there, but the point is 1224 01:16:35,966 --> 01:16:37,802 if his support is joined our cause 1225 01:16:37,893 --> 01:16:40,771 we have enough participants to certify a sue. 1226 01:16:40,846 --> 01:16:42,347 Hold on here. 1227 01:16:43,682 --> 01:16:45,935 Are you threatening a class action? 1228 01:16:46,018 --> 01:16:48,479 No, I'm offering to help you out here. 1229 01:16:48,562 --> 01:16:50,940 Bullshit, you can afford to roll a dice 1230 01:16:51,023 --> 01:16:53,443 to win or lose a case over the course of 15 years. 1231 01:16:53,526 --> 01:16:55,319 Most of those people cannot. 1232 01:16:55,402 --> 01:16:58,114 With all due respect, you haven't met these people. 1233 01:16:58,197 --> 01:17:00,199 Your staff has and… 1234 01:17:00,282 --> 01:17:03,077 I got news for ya, they hate your guts. 1235 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,994 Well, maybe they do, maybe they don't. 1236 01:17:06,255 --> 01:17:08,424 What I'm offering them is a choice. 1237 01:17:08,499 --> 01:17:11,502 And I'm here as a friend to give you the same. 1238 01:17:11,585 --> 01:17:14,630 Raise the ceiling on the top of words 1239 01:17:14,713 --> 01:17:16,924 and I'll deliver everybody to your fund. 1240 01:17:17,007 --> 01:17:18,675 Wrapped in a bow. 1241 01:17:21,887 --> 01:17:23,555 Let's win this together, Ken. 1242 01:17:25,224 --> 01:17:27,267 This isn't the latest one, or is it, Ken? 1243 01:17:27,977 --> 01:17:29,269 Fifteen percent? 1244 01:17:29,917 --> 01:17:33,066 John, we still have four months until the statutory deadline 1245 01:17:33,149 --> 01:17:34,776 but I'm confident. 1246 01:17:34,859 --> 01:17:37,443 Oh I know, confident. 1247 01:17:39,238 --> 01:17:40,947 Committees are getting nervous, Ken. 1248 01:17:42,992 --> 01:17:46,536 John, I didn't know you were having a meeting with the airline lobby. 1249 01:17:46,954 --> 01:17:48,496 I'm just here to listen. 1250 01:17:49,165 --> 01:17:51,417 We're told Lee Quinn is planning to bring suit. 1251 01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:53,376 Unless you give more money at the top. 1252 01:17:53,919 --> 01:17:56,339 Look, Quinn is not the issue. 1253 01:17:56,422 --> 01:17:58,506 You really want to change the law to help people? 1254 01:18:00,073 --> 01:18:04,662 There are plenty of emergency workers and firemen, they inhaled toxic chemicals, 1255 01:18:04,722 --> 01:18:06,974 didn't get sick till months later. 1256 01:18:07,057 --> 01:18:08,392 This law doesn't cover them. 1257 01:18:08,475 --> 01:18:11,562 No, that would be unproductive. 1258 01:18:11,645 --> 01:18:13,588 If you change rules now this bill gets kicked back 1259 01:18:13,688 --> 01:18:15,553 to the Congress for a comment period. 1260 01:18:15,904 --> 01:18:18,115 Have you ever experienced a comment period, Ken? 1261 01:18:18,185 --> 01:18:20,029 -No. -They'd be on their soapboxes 1262 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,498 ten months after the whole statues could put the 1263 01:18:22,573 --> 01:18:25,243 whole economies in the toilet, nobody gets anything 1264 01:18:25,326 --> 01:18:27,161 including re-elected, so… 1265 01:18:27,786 --> 01:18:28,788 yeah. 1266 01:18:29,663 --> 01:18:30,580 No? 1267 01:18:30,831 --> 01:18:33,000 Quinn only cares about the people at the top 1268 01:18:33,083 --> 01:18:35,294 cause that's where he gets his paycheck. 1269 01:18:35,377 --> 01:18:36,796 His lawsuit is a problem for us. 1270 01:18:36,879 --> 01:18:39,382 Look, I work for the tax-payers. 1271 01:18:39,465 --> 01:18:40,967 We pay our share of the taxes too. 1272 01:18:41,050 --> 01:18:43,636 Yeah, but you don't have to look the victim in the eye. 1273 01:18:43,781 --> 01:18:46,430 As the special master you have brought discretionary power 1274 01:18:46,513 --> 01:18:48,141 even within your formula. 1275 01:18:48,224 --> 01:18:51,434 All we're asking is you use it here, to make Quinn happy, so he goes away. 1276 01:18:54,021 --> 01:18:56,773 Like I said, Ken, neutral party. 1277 01:18:57,308 --> 01:19:00,727 You have the DOJ support whatever you decide. 1278 01:19:07,743 --> 01:19:09,786 9/11 TRIBUTE 1279 01:19:17,127 --> 01:19:21,465 ♪ I lost my mom, I lost an earring ♪ 1280 01:19:21,548 --> 01:19:23,843 ♪ I lost my father ♪ 1281 01:19:23,926 --> 01:19:28,496 ♪ I lost my voice, I lost my ticket ♪ 1282 01:19:28,582 --> 01:19:32,852 ♪ I lost the case, I lost the map ♪ 1283 01:19:32,935 --> 01:19:35,062 ♪ I lost my wits ♪ 1284 01:19:35,145 --> 01:19:39,233 ♪ I lost my way, I lost my time ♪ 1285 01:19:41,534 --> 01:19:45,885 ♪ I lost my sock, I lost my umbrella ♪ 1286 01:19:46,712 --> 01:19:50,763 ♪ I lost the store, I lost the coat ♪ 1287 01:19:50,888 --> 01:19:52,696 ♪ I lost my teeth ♪ 1288 01:19:52,768 --> 01:19:56,605 ♪ I lost my name, I lost my dog ♪ 1289 01:19:56,815 --> 01:20:00,890 ♪ I lost an erring, I lost my father ♪ 1290 01:20:00,990 --> 01:20:04,845 ♪ I lost my voice, I lost my ticket ♪ 1291 01:20:05,081 --> 01:20:09,067 ♪ I lost the case, I lost the map ♪ 1292 01:20:09,136 --> 01:20:11,183 ♪ I lost my grace ♪ 1293 01:20:11,295 --> 01:20:14,840 ♪ I lost my way, I lost my tongue ♪ 1294 01:20:18,455 --> 01:20:22,462 ♪ I lost my heart, I lost the faith ♪ 1295 01:20:22,581 --> 01:20:24,225 ♪ I lost the weight ♪ 1296 01:20:25,598 --> 01:20:29,730 ♪ I lost my way, I lost my temper ♪ 1297 01:20:29,831 --> 01:20:33,784 ♪ I lost the pride, I lost my pulse ♪ 1298 01:20:33,856 --> 01:20:35,408 ♪ I lost the time ♪ 1299 01:20:35,873 --> 01:20:39,510 ♪ I lost my name, I lost my hope ♪ 1300 01:20:45,799 --> 01:20:49,260 Mr Feinberg? I thought I might see you here. 1301 01:20:50,971 --> 01:20:52,889 -Hello, Mr. Wolf. -Hi. 1302 01:20:54,224 --> 01:20:57,144 I think Catherine would have appreciated this modern stuff 1303 01:20:57,211 --> 01:21:00,922 but I can't understand music that you have to… 1304 01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:04,944 you know, struggle to listen to. 1305 01:21:05,027 --> 01:21:06,153 -You know? -I do. 1306 01:21:06,236 --> 01:21:08,654 Well, Puccini it ain't. 1307 01:21:09,365 --> 01:21:10,698 We can agree on that. 1308 01:21:12,117 --> 01:21:14,494 So, I thought you'd be on the seat of honor. 1309 01:21:19,249 --> 01:21:20,960 -That bad, huh? -Yeah. 1310 01:21:21,043 --> 01:21:22,001 Yeah. 1311 01:21:22,961 --> 01:21:24,462 You know, um… 1312 01:21:26,173 --> 01:21:28,009 the reason I even wanted to do this 1313 01:21:28,092 --> 01:21:30,261 was I really believed I should serve my country 1314 01:21:30,344 --> 01:21:32,638 in its time of need, and I did. 1315 01:21:32,721 --> 01:21:34,515 Maybe a part of that's ego, 1316 01:21:34,598 --> 01:21:37,350 but… here we are. 1317 01:21:38,394 --> 01:21:43,024 I've got, what? 11000 families, on board 1318 01:21:43,107 --> 01:21:45,900 and 6000 more to go. 1319 01:21:46,527 --> 01:21:48,361 Uh huh? Yeah, well… 1320 01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:52,907 I just want you to know that I know the fund's not perfect. 1321 01:21:54,993 --> 01:21:59,038 There are people who just don't fit within the rules that we wrote. 1322 01:22:01,625 --> 01:22:02,792 I know that. 1323 01:22:06,255 --> 01:22:08,131 I honestly don't know… 1324 01:22:09,466 --> 01:22:10,842 what to do. 1325 01:22:13,501 --> 01:22:15,877 Remember that you're not the bridge. 1326 01:22:16,932 --> 01:22:17,974 OK. 1327 01:22:19,143 --> 01:22:20,603 Sounds like a fortune cookie. 1328 01:22:20,686 --> 01:22:22,104 No. 1329 01:22:22,187 --> 01:22:25,399 Catherine and I, this town that we lived in years ago, 1330 01:22:25,474 --> 01:22:27,143 in upstate New York, 1331 01:22:27,234 --> 01:22:29,111 -Ithaca, you know? -Uh-hmm. 1332 01:22:29,194 --> 01:22:31,320 There was this gorgeous bridge. 1333 01:22:32,171 --> 01:22:35,616 Depression era, beautiful, to me, beautiful. 1334 01:22:35,993 --> 01:22:38,202 And the developers wanted to knock it down. 1335 01:22:38,868 --> 01:22:40,663 Cause they were there putting up the interstate. 1336 01:22:41,165 --> 01:22:43,292 So, I got on the city council 1337 01:22:43,375 --> 01:22:46,878 and I spent two years and all of our savings 1338 01:22:47,838 --> 01:22:50,214 fighting for that hunk of concrete. 1339 01:22:51,925 --> 01:22:53,551 And when they demolished it 1340 01:22:55,345 --> 01:22:57,681 I sat around the house moping for a couple of weeks, 1341 01:22:57,764 --> 01:22:59,724 feeling sorry for myself and… 1342 01:23:00,350 --> 01:23:01,726 then Catherine 1343 01:23:03,020 --> 01:23:05,146 you know, she looked at me one day 1344 01:23:06,732 --> 01:23:08,065 she told me that 1345 01:23:09,443 --> 01:23:10,943 you're not the bridge. 1346 01:23:12,029 --> 01:23:14,780 It is rubble, I'm not. 1347 01:23:15,824 --> 01:23:17,325 I am still here. 1348 01:23:19,912 --> 01:23:22,331 Fighting a new lost cause but… 1349 01:23:22,414 --> 01:23:23,666 Which is me, I suppose. 1350 01:23:23,749 --> 01:23:26,127 No, no, no… 1351 01:23:26,210 --> 01:23:28,963 See, I have nothing against you, Mr Feinberg. 1352 01:23:29,046 --> 01:23:30,827 -Look, I wanna make that clear. -OK, OK. 1353 01:23:30,874 --> 01:23:32,173 I just, look… 1354 01:23:33,175 --> 01:23:35,010 I may have screwed this whole thing up 1355 01:23:35,093 --> 01:23:38,389 very possible, but if I try to fix it now, 1356 01:23:38,488 --> 01:23:41,533 if I even go on record saying this thing even needs fixing 1357 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,229 trust me, courts are gonna throw it back to Congress and they'll let it die. 1358 01:23:45,312 --> 01:23:48,523 Nothing for anyone, just dead. 1359 01:23:50,359 --> 01:23:51,610 Then it deserves to be. 1360 01:23:51,693 --> 01:23:53,612 Why? Because it's not perfect? 1361 01:23:53,695 --> 01:23:55,614 No, no. 1362 01:23:55,697 --> 01:23:58,200 Because, it's not just. 1363 01:23:58,283 --> 01:24:00,453 But I can't change that. 1364 01:24:00,536 --> 01:24:02,788 Well, something has to change. 1365 01:24:02,871 --> 01:24:03,913 Find it. 1366 01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:24,600 COMMITTED: 18% GOAL: 80% 1367 01:24:50,265 --> 01:24:52,291 REGULAR CHECKING AND SAVINGS ACCOUNT 1368 01:25:02,453 --> 01:25:06,174 UNCOMMITTED NY S UNCOMMITTED NY M 1369 01:25:08,854 --> 01:25:12,607 UNCOMMITTED NY P 1370 01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:27,371 Call of the search party, I found him. 1371 01:25:28,540 --> 01:25:29,999 Did you sleep here? 1372 01:25:30,834 --> 01:25:31,818 I guess so. 1373 01:25:33,045 --> 01:25:37,841 I was going through these cases, the uncommitted ones. 1374 01:25:37,931 --> 01:25:41,435 What's going on with that Silver Union suit you're working on? 1375 01:25:41,511 --> 01:25:43,472 That's one of dozens. 1376 01:25:43,546 --> 01:25:45,757 It won't be an issue for New York residents 1377 01:25:45,849 --> 01:25:48,477 cause Pataki just extended the spousal benefits 1378 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,978 for gay people whose partners died. 1379 01:25:51,146 --> 01:25:53,397 Virginia Legislature feels differently. 1380 01:25:55,317 --> 01:25:57,528 Then we gotta call the governor, right? 1381 01:25:57,611 --> 01:25:58,946 Look, obviously 1382 01:25:59,029 --> 01:26:01,198 we can't help everyone with special interests. 1383 01:26:01,272 --> 01:26:04,442 We still have to set limits, but it's a start. 1384 01:26:04,534 --> 01:26:06,912 Now, that's the Civil Union, right? 1385 01:26:06,995 --> 01:26:09,248 Some of these poor people, these first responders 1386 01:26:09,284 --> 01:26:11,850 this is trickier, they didn't even know they were sick for months. 1387 01:26:11,875 --> 01:26:12,857 -Look at these… This is… -Ken. 1388 01:26:12,957 --> 01:26:14,712 I know, we're gonna have to take the heat on it. 1389 01:26:14,795 --> 01:26:17,965 That's the way it is. We're gonna have to set the formula aside. 1390 01:26:18,048 --> 01:26:19,883 -Ken. -I know, I know. 1391 01:26:20,123 --> 01:26:22,701 I know, we're in the weeds here. 1392 01:26:23,082 --> 01:26:24,067 That's where we should be. 1393 01:26:24,287 --> 01:26:26,307 If we do this, we have to go the whole way. 1394 01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:27,544 Can't go half way. 1395 01:26:27,708 --> 01:26:30,144 We have to consider every claimant individually. 1396 01:26:30,227 --> 01:26:33,352 If they can't come down here to see us, we're gonna have to go and see them. 1397 01:26:33,437 --> 01:26:35,024 Do you understand? Good. 1398 01:26:35,107 --> 01:26:36,497 What? You don't like it? 1399 01:26:38,162 --> 01:26:39,341 We love it. 1400 01:26:39,695 --> 01:26:41,278 Oh… Good. 1401 01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:44,436 Set some meetings, I'm gonna get coffee. 1402 01:26:51,373 --> 01:26:56,587 Me and a few of the other stronger guys, we pried open the doors so that 1403 01:26:56,670 --> 01:26:59,046 everyone could get away. 1404 01:27:00,716 --> 01:27:02,550 But that's, that's when it happened. 1405 01:27:04,136 --> 01:27:07,513 The oxygen down there ignited all the fuel and… 1406 01:27:14,563 --> 01:27:15,563 That was it. 1407 01:27:16,481 --> 01:27:20,074 A guy like me thinks he's tough. Think he can handle anything that's thrown at him. 1408 01:27:21,634 --> 01:27:24,323 That's until you look in the eyes of the… 1409 01:27:24,406 --> 01:27:27,158 five year old, and a six year old and you tell them that… 1410 01:27:29,745 --> 01:27:31,162 that you've been lying to them. 1411 01:27:31,788 --> 01:27:34,415 And that their Mommy's not coming home. 1412 01:27:35,625 --> 01:27:40,087 And asked me if he was wearing his wedding ring and I said, "no, why?" 1413 01:27:42,716 --> 01:27:44,008 Do you need something? 1414 01:27:44,593 --> 01:27:49,765 Oh, and I thought I'd join you in… Just perhaps listen. 1415 01:27:49,848 --> 01:27:51,182 Sandra, is that OK? 1416 01:27:57,181 --> 01:27:59,515 Go on. Whenever you're ready. 1417 01:28:02,973 --> 01:28:07,072 I used to ask each time he flew over school or work, I would ask for his itinerary. 1418 01:28:09,242 --> 01:28:11,494 Just so I could breath a little easier. 1419 01:28:12,871 --> 01:28:14,580 Knowing he landed… 1420 01:28:17,292 --> 01:28:18,834 back on solid ground. 1421 01:28:28,011 --> 01:28:30,179 It takes a parent to know that feeling. 1422 01:28:32,849 --> 01:28:34,475 And I'll never have it again. 1423 01:28:40,607 --> 01:28:42,191 It's a fishing fly. 1424 01:28:43,568 --> 01:28:44,944 He made them. 1425 01:28:46,029 --> 01:28:48,073 We made them together. 1426 01:28:48,156 --> 01:28:51,116 My wife and I want you to keep it. 1427 01:28:52,869 --> 01:28:54,036 Well, thank you. 1428 01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:55,996 Thank you. 1429 01:28:56,665 --> 01:28:58,584 We were told 1430 01:28:58,667 --> 01:29:03,213 because he suffered about 90 percent burns over his body 1431 01:29:03,296 --> 01:29:09,301 he might not appear to be the same person we know him to be. 1432 01:29:10,679 --> 01:29:14,641 And then, we got a call from the medical examiner's office 1433 01:29:14,724 --> 01:29:17,059 saying that there was a mix-up. 1434 01:29:18,603 --> 01:29:21,188 And we had to make another identification. 1435 01:29:22,274 --> 01:29:24,525 It turned out we spent four days 1436 01:29:25,527 --> 01:29:27,570 at the bedside of a stranger. 1437 01:29:30,282 --> 01:29:31,615 While Alex… 1438 01:29:35,620 --> 01:29:37,254 while he died. 1439 01:29:38,999 --> 01:29:44,129 You know, my wife and I, we were thinking, gosh, those poor people. 1440 01:29:44,212 --> 01:29:47,758 Because at first, you assume it's happening to someone else. 1441 01:29:47,841 --> 01:29:51,220 And then, within a few hours they of course confirm 1442 01:29:51,303 --> 01:29:53,931 that she was there for a meeting. 1443 01:29:54,014 --> 01:29:57,726 We realized we were one of those people. 1444 01:29:57,809 --> 01:29:59,643 I mean, it was staggering. 1445 01:30:00,353 --> 01:30:02,439 I'm sorry. 1446 01:30:02,522 --> 01:30:04,942 I was on the 85th floor. 1447 01:30:05,025 --> 01:30:07,402 We actually started going down the stairs early… 1448 01:30:07,485 --> 01:30:08,779 But you can call me Gene. 1449 01:30:08,862 --> 01:30:11,365 Gene, tell me a little about yourself. 1450 01:30:11,448 --> 01:30:13,782 When did you move way from Iowa? 1451 01:30:14,492 --> 01:30:18,914 1997. I got a job as analyst right away. 1452 01:30:18,997 --> 01:30:21,750 I was actually so excited to be there. 1453 01:30:21,833 --> 01:30:23,935 It's completely up to you but I think you should take 1454 01:30:24,035 --> 01:30:25,177 what's the government’s giving. 1455 01:30:25,277 --> 01:30:28,655 -I got bad anxiety. -I don't know. I don't sleep much. 1456 01:30:31,018 --> 01:30:32,678 I had to move out of the city. 1457 01:30:32,761 --> 01:30:34,596 I'm there seeing the whole in the skyline. 1458 01:30:34,679 --> 01:30:37,975 I want to do everything I can to expedite this process. 1459 01:30:38,058 --> 01:30:40,100 -Well, Florida is nice. -Yeah. 1460 01:30:40,393 --> 01:30:43,938 "Seems as if I don't feel anything 1461 01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:45,856 but inside, I do. 1462 01:30:47,017 --> 01:30:51,016 Inside I want to burst and just talk to everyone about 1463 01:30:51,157 --> 01:30:52,529 what I'm holding in. 1464 01:30:55,241 --> 01:31:00,037 I wanna say how much pain I have and I wanna say all the pressure that I have. 1465 01:31:02,457 --> 01:31:04,125 I have to get through myself, emotionally 1466 01:31:05,627 --> 01:31:09,214 I have to help them and be strong for them 1467 01:31:09,297 --> 01:31:11,423 but also still be strong for me." 1468 01:31:12,592 --> 01:31:14,009 My dad was good at that. 1469 01:31:14,427 --> 01:31:16,220 I have to be the man that he was. 1470 01:31:25,768 --> 01:31:28,110 DECEMBER 1, 2003 3 WEEKS TO DEADLINE 1471 01:31:30,747 --> 01:31:32,793 COMMITED 36 % GOAL 80 % 1472 01:31:33,488 --> 01:31:34,571 It's not enough. 1473 01:31:37,158 --> 01:31:39,494 So, we keep going, right up to the deadline. 1474 01:31:39,577 --> 01:31:42,289 Maybe we get the word out wider? Make a public statement. 1475 01:31:42,372 --> 01:31:44,791 Nah, if we announce this publicly 1476 01:31:44,874 --> 01:31:47,628 it starts to look like that they're changing the policy, 1477 01:31:47,711 --> 01:31:49,753 then the law goes back to Congress. 1478 01:31:52,257 --> 01:31:54,051 FIX THE FUND 1479 01:31:54,134 --> 01:31:56,178 What if someone else announces it? 1480 01:31:57,470 --> 01:31:59,513 So, you're meeting with people? 1481 01:31:59,900 --> 01:32:01,040 Yeah. 1482 01:32:01,725 --> 01:32:04,059 And I hear you've been telling them that… 1483 01:32:05,478 --> 01:32:06,782 You're throwing out the formula. 1484 01:32:06,853 --> 01:32:10,400 Nope. The law gives me discretion which someone reminded me, 1485 01:32:10,483 --> 01:32:11,859 so, I'm going to use it. 1486 01:32:12,318 --> 01:32:17,197 But I promise you, if people come aboard, I will do everything I can to help them. 1487 01:32:20,952 --> 01:32:22,411 Guaranteed by what? 1488 01:32:22,954 --> 01:32:23,664 Your word? 1489 01:32:23,747 --> 01:32:25,581 Oh, Charles, I mean… 1490 01:32:26,583 --> 01:32:27,624 What? 1491 01:32:27,917 --> 01:32:30,502 No, I'm sorry. Mr Feinberg, 1492 01:32:30,879 --> 01:32:34,132 you've been telling us for two years 1493 01:32:34,215 --> 01:32:37,803 that you're nothing but a numbers cruncher for the government. 1494 01:32:37,886 --> 01:32:40,262 And now you're asking us to trust you. 1495 01:32:40,472 --> 01:32:41,765 No, I'm asking you. 1496 01:32:42,515 --> 01:32:47,124 You already have their trust. And you earned that. Help them trust me too. 1497 01:32:49,856 --> 01:32:51,525 Are you just trying to win? 1498 01:32:51,608 --> 01:32:53,901 No, I'm trying to make things right. 1499 01:33:03,078 --> 01:33:05,245 When's your deposition with Lee Quinn? 1500 01:33:06,456 --> 01:33:07,748 Monday. 1501 01:33:09,338 --> 01:33:11,585 He's gonna tell you you wanted kids. 1502 01:33:13,630 --> 01:33:16,258 Forty year old married female 1503 01:33:16,341 --> 01:33:20,220 who is pregnant or even she's just trying to get pregnant. 1504 01:33:20,303 --> 01:33:24,349 The damage settlement shoots way up, way up. Skyward. 1505 01:33:24,432 --> 01:33:26,935 And Quinn's gonna coach you through every step. 1506 01:33:27,018 --> 01:33:29,436 When to cry. When to quiver your lip. 1507 01:33:33,650 --> 01:33:34,943 How do you know this? 1508 01:33:35,026 --> 01:33:36,610 Cause we are the same guy. 1509 01:33:37,445 --> 01:33:38,695 And that's what I do. 1510 01:33:41,685 --> 01:33:44,239 DECEMBER 10, 2003 13 DAYS TO DEADLINE 1511 01:33:46,412 --> 01:33:49,414 OFFICES OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL 1512 01:34:03,596 --> 01:34:05,222 Ashcroft's stood you up? 1513 01:34:08,017 --> 01:34:09,643 He's under pressure of his own. 1514 01:34:12,730 --> 01:34:16,525 Do you think it's a message? "Give Quinn what he wants"? 1515 01:34:17,402 --> 01:34:18,819 I'm not suggesting it. 1516 01:34:19,821 --> 01:34:23,073 There's still time. You always say they'll come in at the deadline. 1517 01:34:23,741 --> 01:34:24,908 What if I'm wrong? 1518 01:34:27,328 --> 01:34:28,996 What if I'm wrong, Camille? 1519 01:34:34,544 --> 01:34:37,214 Sorry. You did everything you could. 1520 01:34:37,297 --> 01:34:39,214 Everyone did everything they could. 1521 01:34:40,884 --> 01:34:43,568 A call for you, Ken. Lawyer from Queens. 1522 01:34:44,285 --> 01:34:46,504 -Name's Cuthbert. -Take a message, please. 1523 01:34:46,556 --> 01:34:49,476 He already left you three. It's about the Donato case. 1524 01:34:49,559 --> 01:34:52,269 He says if you don't tell the widow he will. 1525 01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,940 And to tell you that you have until tomorrow. 1526 01:34:59,831 --> 01:35:01,034 Ken? 1527 01:35:08,828 --> 01:35:10,204 Karen isn't home yet. 1528 01:35:12,207 --> 01:35:13,498 She told me you called. 1529 01:35:14,167 --> 01:35:15,792 Said you wouldn't tell her why. 1530 01:35:16,294 --> 01:35:17,711 When will she be back? 1531 01:35:19,547 --> 01:35:22,799 Put away your checkbook. We're joining the lawsuit. 1532 01:35:23,635 --> 01:35:26,595 Well, you'll do whatever you have to do. 1533 01:35:27,972 --> 01:35:30,308 Yeah, but you know better, right? 1534 01:35:30,391 --> 01:35:33,478 I would not presume or judge. 1535 01:35:33,561 --> 01:35:34,561 Bullshit. 1536 01:35:35,104 --> 01:35:37,898 You see her being loyal to a dead guy, you can't imagine why. 1537 01:35:38,816 --> 01:35:42,154 Frank, the signing deadline is Saturday. 1538 01:35:42,237 --> 01:35:45,030 After that you won't see me anymore. 1539 01:35:47,116 --> 01:35:48,951 It's the first thing you said I'm glad to hear. 1540 01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,497 I'm still gonna have to talk to Karen first. 1541 01:35:54,082 --> 01:35:55,916 Like I said she's not home. 1542 01:35:56,626 --> 01:35:58,168 Tell me and I'll pass it along. 1543 01:35:59,337 --> 01:36:00,963 I don't think you would, Frank. 1544 01:36:01,589 --> 01:36:03,257 In fact, I think you already know. 1545 01:36:05,218 --> 01:36:08,638 You don't have to protect him anymore. Nick's gone. 1546 01:36:08,721 --> 01:36:11,723 You didn't know Nick. He was a good man. 1547 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,101 This is not about Nick. 1548 01:36:22,819 --> 01:36:24,319 He went back in for me 1549 01:36:24,779 --> 01:36:26,154 into that tower. 1550 01:36:26,823 --> 01:36:28,200 Did you know that? 1551 01:36:28,283 --> 01:36:29,116 No. 1552 01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,705 For all I know, he heard the evac orders on his radio and he said, "Fuck it, 1553 01:36:33,788 --> 01:36:35,415 my brother's in there." 1554 01:36:35,498 --> 01:36:38,001 He died trying to save me and you think I should… 1555 01:36:38,084 --> 01:36:39,543 I should forget about that? 1556 01:36:41,212 --> 01:36:42,629 Don't you have a family? 1557 01:36:43,214 --> 01:36:46,009 If you die tomorrow what's the worst they find out about you? 1558 01:36:46,092 --> 01:36:47,844 Maybe you're not such a hero either. 1559 01:36:47,927 --> 01:36:49,054 I'm not a hero. 1560 01:36:49,137 --> 01:36:53,433 Yeah, well… Nick was. He was a family man. He was a good man. 1561 01:36:53,574 --> 01:36:56,018 And that's why he'd want his children taken care of. 1562 01:36:56,352 --> 01:36:57,519 All of them. 1563 01:36:57,895 --> 01:37:01,815 Frank, if I were you, honestly… 1564 01:37:02,817 --> 01:37:05,444 I don't know what I would do. I can't imagine. 1565 01:37:05,987 --> 01:37:08,905 I might wanna sue the hell outta everyone. 1566 01:37:09,365 --> 01:37:11,700 But you're not the only one who's left behind. 1567 01:37:12,076 --> 01:37:13,577 I know you know that. 1568 01:37:15,371 --> 01:37:18,708 That family wants the money so they can just move on. 1569 01:37:18,791 --> 01:37:20,627 And I think they deserve it. 1570 01:37:20,710 --> 01:37:22,961 And I think Nick would think so too. 1571 01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:28,592 That's why I'm… 1572 01:37:29,427 --> 01:37:31,846 I'm gonna count them as equal beneficiaries. 1573 01:37:31,929 --> 01:37:35,599 I just thought Karen should know. And I wanted to tell her myself. 1574 01:37:36,267 --> 01:37:38,560 So she didn't have to read the public record. 1575 01:37:38,936 --> 01:37:40,063 What are their names? 1576 01:37:40,146 --> 01:37:41,938 -Karen, go back in the house. -No. 1577 01:37:42,982 --> 01:37:44,107 I wanna know. 1578 01:37:48,029 --> 01:37:50,447 Jenna and Bell. 1579 01:38:01,084 --> 01:38:02,667 He always wanted girls. 1580 01:38:16,766 --> 01:38:17,849 You're happy? 1581 01:38:27,382 --> 01:38:30,856 DECEMBER 19, 2003 5 DAYS TO DEADLINE 1582 01:38:43,876 --> 01:38:46,378 COMMITED 51 % GOAL 80 % 1583 01:38:53,219 --> 01:38:54,344 Mail's here. 1584 01:38:58,766 --> 01:39:00,518 Do y'all wanna sign for these together? 1585 01:39:00,601 --> 01:39:01,601 I'll sign. 1586 01:39:04,814 --> 01:39:07,232 What does it look like there? How many do we got? 1587 01:39:11,028 --> 01:39:12,070 How many do you have? 1588 01:39:12,572 --> 01:39:13,905 Thirty. Maybe forty. 1589 01:39:14,866 --> 01:39:15,740 Me too. 1590 01:39:37,388 --> 01:39:38,388 I'm sorry. 1591 01:39:41,225 --> 01:39:42,809 You did the best you could. 1592 01:39:44,854 --> 01:39:45,812 Did I? 1593 01:39:47,565 --> 01:39:48,690 I'm still sorry. 1594 01:40:47,375 --> 01:40:48,750 You're working too hard, Ken. 1595 01:40:50,211 --> 01:40:51,254 Get yourself a drink. 1596 01:40:51,337 --> 01:40:54,923 No. I'm fine. Let's just get on with it. 1597 01:40:57,718 --> 01:40:59,219 Don't think I don't respect it. 1598 01:41:00,012 --> 01:41:02,639 Your whole crusade. 1599 01:41:03,391 --> 01:41:04,767 That's not what this is. 1600 01:41:04,850 --> 01:41:05,976 No, I know. 1601 01:41:07,478 --> 01:41:09,564 You're a Robin Hood. You're solving everybody's problems. 1602 01:41:09,647 --> 01:41:10,981 One good deed at a time. 1603 01:41:13,985 --> 01:41:15,610 You poisoned the well. 1604 01:41:16,271 --> 01:41:17,197 You did, Lee. 1605 01:41:17,947 --> 01:41:20,783 You poisoned the well. You played on peoples' fear 1606 01:41:20,866 --> 01:41:24,205 and their pain, and their anger, their distrust of government, 1607 01:41:24,301 --> 01:41:26,904 to act against their own best interests. 1608 01:41:26,998 --> 01:41:30,084 Look, my girl's birthday is today. 1609 01:41:30,167 --> 01:41:31,323 Caterer is coming. 1610 01:41:31,877 --> 01:41:33,505 You gonna meet these numbers or what? 1611 01:41:33,588 --> 01:41:34,672 Give me a pen. 1612 01:41:40,595 --> 01:41:43,181 Look, I know, it hurts. 1613 01:41:43,264 --> 01:41:44,891 But "fair" is not the goal. 1614 01:41:46,017 --> 01:41:47,601 It's "finish and move on." 1615 01:41:55,943 --> 01:41:57,403 I said that. 1616 01:41:57,486 --> 01:41:59,321 Yeah. You probably did. 1617 01:41:59,905 --> 01:42:02,075 You've always been my hero, Ken. 1618 01:42:03,055 --> 01:42:05,286 I watched you argue in front of a fold. 1619 01:42:05,369 --> 01:42:08,122 1984. You had hair then. 1620 01:42:08,205 --> 01:42:11,958 Doubt you believed a word you said but man, did it sound good. 1621 01:42:14,670 --> 01:42:16,212 What are you doing? Ken? 1622 01:42:18,716 --> 01:42:19,841 Don't be an idiot. 1623 01:42:21,209 --> 01:42:22,491 Ken. 1624 01:42:23,054 --> 01:42:23,888 Come on, man. 1625 01:42:24,847 --> 01:42:26,139 Change of heart, Lee. 1626 01:42:27,721 --> 01:42:28,730 Ken. 1627 01:42:28,949 --> 01:42:30,161 Ken! 1628 01:43:21,695 --> 01:43:22,811 Ken. 1629 01:43:23,197 --> 01:43:24,449 What is going on here? 1630 01:43:24,532 --> 01:43:26,534 The families. It's been like this the whole morning. 1631 01:43:26,617 --> 01:43:28,995 Some calls, some walk-ins. 1632 01:43:29,078 --> 01:43:31,080 Suddenly everyone wants to have a private meeting. 1633 01:43:31,163 --> 01:43:32,163 Why? 1634 01:43:36,585 --> 01:43:39,297 "By now many of us have sat down with Mr. Feinberg. 1635 01:43:39,380 --> 01:43:40,590 Looked him the eye. 1636 01:43:40,673 --> 01:43:43,217 We've told him it's not the money that we're after. 1637 01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:48,765 It's for our own government, this system to treat us all with dignity, respect. 1638 01:43:48,848 --> 01:43:53,685 While I can't speak for the system, but I have come to believe in Mr. Feinberg. 1639 01:43:54,395 --> 01:43:58,565 That's why I'm happy to announce, The Fund is Fixed." 1640 01:43:59,650 --> 01:44:01,192 We've just passed 65 %. 1641 01:44:02,695 --> 01:44:04,988 All right, let's keep going everybody. 1642 01:44:09,118 --> 01:44:10,827 I give you a number right there. 1643 01:44:15,207 --> 01:44:17,418 Carrie, is that Richmond? I need that as soon as you're done. 1644 01:44:17,501 --> 01:44:18,920 Yeah. Yeah. 1645 01:44:19,003 --> 01:44:21,588 Well, I know your kids start school soon. 1646 01:44:22,757 --> 01:44:29,013 If you'd like we can fax a redirect payment right into the tuition account. 1647 01:44:29,096 --> 01:44:32,182 And… that would be helpful? How does that sound? 1648 01:44:32,683 --> 01:44:37,146 What I can do is fax some materials to a copy center. 1649 01:44:37,229 --> 01:44:38,605 You near one of those? 1650 01:44:39,231 --> 01:44:41,109 You know what, I can look that up for you. 1651 01:44:41,192 --> 01:44:43,777 All right, you're still up the Arthur Ave. address? 1652 01:44:51,911 --> 01:44:52,827 Hello. 1653 01:44:53,704 --> 01:44:54,579 Charles. 1654 01:44:56,457 --> 01:44:57,791 I should get back to it. 1655 01:44:58,542 --> 01:45:00,084 -Nice to see you. -Yeah, you too. 1656 01:45:01,128 --> 01:45:02,128 Here you go. 1657 01:45:02,713 --> 01:45:04,798 There's still a typo on page three. 1658 01:45:05,424 --> 01:45:06,966 We'll get right on that. 1659 01:45:07,885 --> 01:45:10,388 And you were wrong about me and Quinn. 1660 01:45:11,096 --> 01:45:12,680 He didn't try to coach you? 1661 01:45:13,224 --> 01:45:14,434 He did. 1662 01:45:14,517 --> 01:45:15,683 But… 1663 01:45:16,519 --> 01:45:17,769 you're nothing like him. 1664 01:45:21,982 --> 01:45:23,316 Bye, Mr. Feinberg. 1665 01:45:25,555 --> 01:45:26,902 Ken. 1666 01:45:39,875 --> 01:45:43,586 No, Mrs Banton, I've been handling your claim myself. 1667 01:45:44,380 --> 01:45:48,342 I know there's been an issue with your husband's life insurance offset. 1668 01:45:48,425 --> 01:45:50,928 And look, I've been fiddling with the numbers. 1669 01:45:51,011 --> 01:45:54,097 And I wanna propose something. I think you gonna like it. 1670 01:45:55,182 --> 01:45:57,267 We just wanna make sure you have everything you need… 1671 01:45:57,935 --> 01:46:00,478 This one gets through me. You filled it out right. 1672 01:46:00,688 --> 01:46:02,564 Does anybody wanna give me a hand here? 1673 01:46:05,025 --> 01:46:06,484 It's a lot more down the truck. 1674 01:46:07,278 --> 01:46:08,571 Please tidy it up. 1675 01:46:08,654 --> 01:46:09,571 Thank you. 1676 01:46:10,030 --> 01:46:12,156 OK, come on guys, let's go. 1677 01:46:12,658 --> 01:46:13,783 Let's go. 1678 01:46:18,664 --> 01:46:20,874 OK. What have you got? 1679 01:46:22,501 --> 01:46:25,461 A little over 95 % so far. 1680 01:46:27,172 --> 01:46:28,631 Should we call the President? 1681 01:46:29,049 --> 01:46:30,218 Let's get drunk. 1682 01:46:30,301 --> 01:46:32,427 Let's get drunk with the President. 1683 01:47:00,915 --> 01:47:05,043 Mr. Morris, this is Camille Biros from a "Victim Compensation Fund." 1684 01:47:07,129 --> 01:47:09,422 I'm sure you've heard the news. 1685 01:47:13,010 --> 01:47:15,345 You should know because of your case 1686 01:47:16,889 --> 01:47:18,376 we were able to accommodate 1687 01:47:18,476 --> 01:47:22,977 a great number of people in similar relationships in New York. 1688 01:47:26,774 --> 01:47:27,774 But… 1689 01:47:29,234 --> 01:47:30,443 Unfortunately… 1690 01:47:31,445 --> 01:47:34,614 Tom's parents, being how they are… 1691 01:47:35,658 --> 01:47:40,161 And Virginia State Law we were not able to accommodate yours. 1692 01:47:43,165 --> 01:47:44,374 I'm so sorry. 1693 01:47:48,295 --> 01:47:50,046 I'm sure that doesn't help. 1694 01:48:06,271 --> 01:48:10,692 Hey, I'm just gonna talk to him… 1695 01:48:13,028 --> 01:48:15,029 Hey, Mr. Feinberg. 1696 01:48:16,740 --> 01:48:18,866 -Look, I'm sorry-- -Come on over here. 1697 01:48:21,264 --> 01:48:22,226 I… 1698 01:48:25,708 --> 01:48:26,916 I just… 1699 01:48:29,128 --> 01:48:30,503 I didn't wanna know. 1700 01:48:31,338 --> 01:48:32,588 I'm not stupid. 1701 01:48:33,173 --> 01:48:34,257 You know. 1702 01:48:37,386 --> 01:48:42,265 He'd get a call after dinner, and he'd say it was Frank. 1703 01:48:42,957 --> 01:48:47,020 You know and there was like a three-alarm in the city or whatever. 1704 01:48:48,647 --> 01:48:50,066 Then he'd kiss me goodbye. 1705 01:48:50,149 --> 01:48:52,692 And I would pretend like I didn't know that he was lying. 1706 01:48:54,194 --> 01:48:56,572 Then later I'd be over with Irene and… 1707 01:48:56,663 --> 01:48:58,574 You know, Frank would come home after drinking with the boys 1708 01:48:58,660 --> 01:49:01,577 and I would say, "How'd that three-alarm go?" 1709 01:49:01,660 --> 01:49:03,453 And you know he would look at me 1710 01:49:04,246 --> 01:49:07,165 with the straightest face you've ever seen in your life, and he'd say, 1711 01:49:09,668 --> 01:49:10,877 "Nicky's moping up." 1712 01:49:12,337 --> 01:49:15,214 But he was a real hero that night. You should've seen him. 1713 01:49:17,551 --> 01:49:20,386 "Might be a while though, so don't wait up." 1714 01:49:23,182 --> 01:49:25,850 And you know I don't hate Frank for that. 1715 01:49:26,935 --> 01:49:28,770 Because Nick, he was his little brother. 1716 01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:33,025 I didn't want him to die. 1717 01:49:33,108 --> 01:49:34,400 Of course not. 1718 01:49:35,569 --> 01:49:37,779 But I used to wish all sorts of things about her. 1719 01:49:39,364 --> 01:49:41,117 You didn't do anything wrong, Karen. 1720 01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,202 -No, God tests us. -No, it's not your fault. 1721 01:49:55,714 --> 01:49:59,008 Will you make sure that they get what they need, 1722 01:50:00,010 --> 01:50:01,511 his little girls? 1723 01:50:04,515 --> 01:50:05,556 I will. 1724 01:50:17,415 --> 01:50:19,186 $450,000. 1725 01:51:42,404 --> 01:51:45,801 The 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund was the only fund of its kind in US history 1726 01:51:45,901 --> 01:51:48,235 It ultimately signed on 97 % of eligible claimants, 1727 01:51:48,335 --> 01:51:51,753 distributing over 7 billion dollars in public money to 5,650 people. 1728 01:51:51,853 --> 01:51:53,791 Only 94 people declined to participate. 1729 01:51:59,338 --> 01:52:01,998 While the 9/11 Compensation Fund formally closed in 2003, 1730 01:52:02,098 --> 01:52:05,792 new funds with different special masters were established in 2011, and again in 2019, 1731 01:52:05,892 --> 01:52:09,066 due to overwhelming public outcry to continue supporting first responders 1732 01:52:09,166 --> 01:52:11,639 and others suffering long term adverse health effects. 1733 01:52:14,353 --> 01:52:17,852 Since 9/11 Ken and Camille have continued to administer compensation funds 1734 01:52:17,952 --> 01:52:21,491 on behalf of tens of thousands of victims in a variety of cases, such as 1735 01:52:22,014 --> 01:52:27,014 Transcript by sub.Trader & Clarity 181500

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