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Welcome to
"How It Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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In late August of 1990, the city
of Gainesville, Florida,
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was paralyzed by a string of
senseless and sadistic murders.
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The bodies of five college
students were discovered
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in their apartments
brutally stabbed, tortured.
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Some were sexually assaulted.
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One, decapitated.
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Investigators knew
that this was the work
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of a deranged serial killer,
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but who could be capable
of such violent depravity?
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It would be more than a year
before the public
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and the victim's families
finally knew the truth.
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Here's how it really happened.
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Man: They were crimes
that horrified a community.
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Five students between
the ages of 17 and 23
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stabbed to death in August 1990.
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Darnell:
Sonja Larson, Christy Powell,
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Christa Hoyt, Manny Taboada,
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and Tracy Paules.
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We were forced to recognize
that horrible things can happen
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to vibrant
and talented individuals
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in a beautiful and pristine
place such as Gainesville.
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Man:
Gainesville police discovered
the first two murder victims
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Sunday afternoon.
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Emery: Christy, she was moving
into her apartment.
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She got in her car,
and off she went.
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And I literally can see her
rounding the corner,
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just like that.
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Man: Sonja Larson was 18,
the typical all-American girl.
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I'll be in a store,
and I will think,
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"Oh, Sonja will like that."
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And then it hits me.
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Sonja's not here.
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Man: Yesterday,
the third victim was found,
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reportedly decapitated.
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Hoyt:
When Christa moved in with us,
she started coming around
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and giving each one
a hug and kiss
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before she went
to sleep at night.
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And now you wish it could
just keep going on and on.
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Man: Victims four and five,
a young man and a woman,
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were found at an off-campus
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student apartment complex
Tuesday morning.
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Taboada: The great thing
about my brother
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is that he lived life
to the fullest,
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and I was just --
just so proud of him.
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And that will never change.
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Lahey:
She was my sister, and I lost
a big part of my heart.
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Shoot, I'm 54 years old,
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and I still can't
get over her loss.
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Hewitt:
These crime scenes were probably
the most horrific crime scenes
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that I had ever seen.
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He would stalk, in some cases,
these victims in advance.
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And then pounce when
they were very vulnerable.
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This guy was committing murders
in the middle of the night.
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You're most vulnerable
when you're asleep.
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Woman: All had been stabbed.
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Several were mutilated.
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He was not just there to kill.
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He was showcasing a room,
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and that was
terribly disturbing.
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After he dismembered people,
he stayed and --
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and just posed people.
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It was bone-chilling.
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Woman: Police warned the killer
may still be stalking.
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It was horrific,
and it was heart-wrenching.
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He was still out there.
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[ Telephone rings ]
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There was new, hot leads
every day to follow up on.
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There was a bank
of investigators
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working the phones day
in and day out.
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Etheridge: At the time,
there were questions.
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Why is this taking so long?
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This guy is out there.
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Where is he?
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Woman:
Investigators say they have
volumes of evidence
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and a pool of suspects.
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We're looking at eight
possible suspects
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in our series of homicides.
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Woman:
From that category, 18-year-old
Edward Lewis Humphrey
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is the only
one authorities would name.
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The University of Florida
student is in custody
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on separate charges
of beating his grandmother.
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Stacy: He -- he looked like
a serial killer.
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He had scars on his face,
and he was acting erratically.
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He was talking about murder.
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Man: Police say
they've been told,
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Humphrey liked to put on
military clothes,
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strap on a knife,
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and go on nighttime
reconnaissance missions
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in the same area
searchers sloshed through
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looking for
possible evidence.
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They were just searching
and searching and searching.
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They were looking for anything.
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Needle in a haystack.
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Hicks: The police were really
at loose ends,
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and then it wasn't until
Danny Rolling made
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a foolish mistake
that he even came
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to the attention
of law enforcement.
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Woman:
Danny Rolling, 36-year-old
unemployed laborer,
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was arrested for holding a gun
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to the head of an employee
of this Ocala grocery store
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and then leading them
on a wild chase through town.
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I was asked by the assistant
chief public defender in Ocala
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to evaluate his competency
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and mental state
at the time of the charge.
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We start talking.
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He said, "I just want to know
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whether everything I tell you
is confidential."
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He then went on and told me
about the five homicides.
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Man: Five gruesome stabbings
took place
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over a three-day period
in late August.
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Krop: He went into detail
where he killed,
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mutilated, posed,
and decapitated,
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and other very sadistic
kind of acts.
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One of the things
that Danny told me
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was that after he killed
on the second day,
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the next morning, he woke up,
and he couldn't find his wallet,
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and he presumed
that he left it at the scene.
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So he had gone back
to the scene.
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Of course, no one
had been there yet.
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When he went back,
that is when he decapitated.
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He didn't do that initially
at the crime scene.
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Woman: Christa Hoyt has been
decapitated,
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her head placed on a bookcase.
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I almost think he wanted to know
if he had shocked me,
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and I said,
"No, I hear it all the time,"
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which of course,
I don't hear it to that degree.
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Christian: Now, Dr. Krop knew
that Danny Rolling
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had confessed to these killings.
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Danny rolling put Dr. Krop
in a very precarious position
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because the tenets
of mental therapy,
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you cannot tell anyone.
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Krop: Once he made
his confessions to me,
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he seemed emotionally relieved,
and I was emotionally drained.
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And then I started realizing
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this was
a confidential evaluation.
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I couldn't tell anybody.
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Danny hadn't been charged
with murder.
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It might cause a mistrial
down the road
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if he's ever brought to trial.
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Christian: On the other hand,
he knew at that point
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that Danny Rolling
was not going to be killing
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anymore university students
because he was locked up.
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So, in the end,
Dr. Krop didn't say anything.
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He waited for the system to work
the way that it's supposed to.
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The truth will come out.
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We knew we had evidence
of the suspect
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from all three crime scenes.
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Man: Matching DNA would link
a suspect to the murders.
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And things
just started clicking.
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[ Cheering ]
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Let's go, Gators, let's go!
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Let's go, Gators, let's go!
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Let's go, Gators, let's go!
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Woman: Homecoming festivities
at the University of Florida
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are in high gear.
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And while there's no apparent
lack of enthusiasm,
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memories of the tragic events
of recent weeks
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are never far
from students' minds.
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The fall semester,
it's the semester of dreams.
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There's always that optimism
in the fall,
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and that got taken away from us.
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My heart just goes out
to families
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and friends of the victims.
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Hopefully, someone
will catch this guy,
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and there'll be a lot
of happy people if that happens.
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Man: Some of the best criminal
investigation minds
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in the nation
have been working on the case,
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but still,
no one has been arrested.
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Hicks: The murders had stopped.
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I called my police sources
in South Florida,
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and I said, "What do you know?
What do you hear?"
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And at the time,
the police had decided
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either the person
who was involved in it had died
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or had been arrested
on some unrelated crime.
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Well, let's see
who's already in jail.
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Hewitt:
We filled out ViCAP, violent
crime apprehension program,
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and it's run by the Federal
Bureau of investigation.
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It is a very in-depth document
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that you fill out
on every scene.
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They feed the information
into their computer base,
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and any crimes that have
any similarities to it,
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it kicks 'em out,
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one of them being murders
in the Shreveport area.
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Woman: The Gainesville murders
contained striking similarities
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to a 1989 murder
in Shreveport, Louisiana.
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24-year-old Julie Grissom,
Brunette college student,
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had been raped, stabbed,
posed on a bed,
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and the bedroom meticulously
cleaned up afterwards.
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Hewitt: Her body was staged
on the side of her bed
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similar to some of our victims.
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Woman: Police there say
her father and nephew
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must have come in
on the killer.
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They, too, were fatally stabbed.
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Several police sources
have told us
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they have suspected a connection
between the two cases.
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Hewitt: The task force sent
an FDLE agent to Shreveport
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to talk
with the investigators.
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Danny's name came up
because of the Grissom
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killings in Shreveport.
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There was warrants for him
out of Shreveport
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for shooting his father before
he left in the spring of '90.
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The investigators
in Shreveport said,
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"Hey, you might want to go down
and check him out."
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Woman: Was he linked to
the five killings here?
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He was basically
a career criminal.
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Hewitt:
He had done numerous robberies
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and been convicted
and served time.
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The man's been to prison
for armed robbery
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in three different states.
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He came to the wrong state
when he came to Florida
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and committed an armed robbery.
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Hewitt: In the midst of working
the student murders,
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we had a bank robbery that
turned out to be very important.
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Stacy: The First Union robbery,
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it got kind of lost
in all the other news.
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Mann: It was crazy.
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It was in the middle of the day,
near a busy intersection.
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The bank robbery takes place.
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Hewitt: I don't think anybody,
until much later,
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put it together
that they were connected.
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We got there, and somebody said
that the suspect
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had ran across the parking lot
and turned into a wooded area
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that leads into
the University of Florida.
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They brought in the K-9s,
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and the K-9s tracked him through
a wooded area to a campsite.
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At the campsite,
we found dye-stained money,
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a bag, a screwdriver,
audiotape player,
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a knit ski cap,
and a pair of sports gloves.
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And they packed all the stuff up
and moved it to evidence.
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Mann: At that time,
it just didn't make sense
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that it had any connection with
the Gainesville student murders.
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Three months later, we said,
"Maybe we should go back
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and look at our evidence that
we collected from the campsite
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that was associated
with the bank robbery."
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And when we did, we found
the tape recorder and noticed
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that there was a tape inside it.
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And on that tape was talking.
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And singing.
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The moon is shining.
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The rain keeps pouring down.
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And he identifies himself.
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As Danny Rolling.
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Mann:
Now you have a possible suspect
giving their full name
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in Gainesville
during this particular case.
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This is a very possible suspect
and probably the suspect.
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We knew we had evidence
of the suspect
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from all three crime scenes
in Gainesville, Florida.
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Our forensic lab people were
able to create a DNA profile.
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Back then, to run DNA took
several weeks as opposed to now
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where you can get something
in one or two days.
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Reporter:
Sources have told Channel 4 News
that the lab is doing
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DNA testing on either blood,
hair,
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or semen sample
found at a crime scene.
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I got a call one day from a guy
I worked with at FDLE.
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He goes, "Hey, you arrested
this guy named Danny Rolling.
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I need to come down and pull
some blood from him."
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Mann:
They took him to the infirmary
and had his blood drawn.
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That blood was sent to the lab.
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Graham:
Dennis calls me, and he goes,
"you're not gonna believe this.
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We think this is the guy."
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And all of a sudden,
things immediately
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just start coming together.
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Man: Today, a published report
says police
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are waiting
for a DNA blood test
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to confirm that
their suspicions are correct,
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that they may know
who the killer is.
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They had discovered his camp
in the woods
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and the songs that he had --
the tapes he had made.
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♪♪
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Man: Mario Taboada spends a lot
of time at the cemetery.
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His brother, Manny,
was stabbed to death
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in Gainesville, Florida.
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♪♪
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Taboada: My brother was murdered
at the end of August, 1990.
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Months later, our case was still
in the limelight
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and in the news.
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Man: For many,
it's difficult to understand
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or accept why
no one's been arrested.
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The wheels of justice
move slow, and okay,
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that's fine to say
unless your child was murdered,
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and it takes this long
to catch the guy.
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It turns out,
he was actually in custody.
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Man: Investigators confirm
that this man,
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36-year-old Danny Rolling
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of Shreveport, Louisiana,
is a suspect.
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He's currently jailed on an
unrelated armed robbery charge.
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Reporter: Danny, they say you
murdered five people.
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What do you have to say?
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Hicks: They had discovered
his camp in the woods,
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and the songs that he had --
the tapes he had made.
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You knew without a doubt
that he was involved.
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We continued putting
the evidence together.
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Woman: In each envelope,
small pieces of more
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than 2,000 articles of evidence.
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Hewitt: There was a screwdriver
found at the campsite.
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The screwdriver was so important
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because at all
three crime scenes,
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there was tool marks
at the entry point
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that could be matched up
to the specific tool
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that was used to break in.
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Like a fingerprint,
they matched 'em.
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We knew the screwdriver
had come from Wal-Mart,
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so we went back and started
checking the surveillance tapes
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and cash register receipts.
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Rolling was in Wal-Mart
purchasing a tent.
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And the time that the tent
was being purchased
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in the sporting goods section,
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our first two victims,
Sonja and Christina,
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was checking out at the front
register in the same Wal-Mart.
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Forensic evidence from him
comes back
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on all three different scenes.
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Christian: He left semen behind.
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That was his big slip-up.
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Man: You had him dead to rights.
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And then the question became,
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was there anybody else
involved with him or not?
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Stacy: I think it was pretty
evident that Danny Rolling
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was gonna be indicted
for the murders,
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but the big question mark
was Ed Humphrey,
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whether he had anything
to do with it.
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Woman:
Former University of Florida
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student Edward Humphrey
of Melbourne
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was named early on
as a possible suspect.
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Humphrey has not been
indicted or charged,
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but prosecutors
have not cleared his name.
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We only have one shot
at doing this.
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You can't be tried twice
for the same crime.
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So once the process starts,
we've gotta do it right
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and do it right the first time.
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♪♪
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A Florida grand jury
has just indicted
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Danny Harold Rolling
for the murder
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of five college students
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in Gainesville, Florida.
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Stabbing her with a knife --
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Woman: A clerk reads
the grand jury's decision.
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Danny Rolling is now charged
with all five student murders.
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I remember the headline,
it said, "Rolling indicted."
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Woman: The grand jury
also decided
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there wasn't enough evidence
to indict Ed Humphrey.
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"Humphrey not."
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The indictment said,
for sure,
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that Ed Humphrey didn't
have anything to do with it.
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Woman: Lab tests on evidence
at the crime scenes
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did not match up to Humphrey.
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Christian:
Humphrey was released,
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and there's absolutely
no indication
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that he had anything to do
with these killings.
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We agreed with the grand
jury's assessment that,
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as of today,
there was insufficient evidence
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to return an indictment
against anyone
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other than Danny Harold Rolling.
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Woman: Rolling said nothing
as he was officially charged
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with five counts
of first-degree murder.
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His attorney entered a plea
of not guilty to the charges,
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but later said an insanity
defense may be more appropriate.
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Every time I saw him, he had
sort of this bemused face.
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I'm not sure what
I'm doing here.
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God bless the people of Florida.
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Lord help me.
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He's just a real piece of work.
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I received word that Danny
Rolling wanted to talk to me.
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Danny wanted to confess.
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There was pin drop silence,
and then gasps.
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Woman: I figured there was
something you wanted to say.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Any and all parties
involved in the investigation
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under way concerning the
Gainesville murders have been
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and will be dealt with
in an honorable fashion.
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The wheels of justice
may turn slow, but they do turn.
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Welcome back.
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15 months after
the brutal killings
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of five college students,
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Danny Rolling was indicted
for the Gainesville murders.
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Investigators vowed that
the suspected serial killer
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would pay for the innocent
lives he took,
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but justice
would not come easy.
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Man: They were crimes
that horrified the community.
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These kids were butchered
in a senseless act.
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Man: 15 months of an exhaustive
investigation
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00:21:36,383 --> 00:21:38,253
led to Danny Harold Rolling,
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a drifter from Shreveport,
Louisiana.
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He didn't have any emotion,
no matter what was said.
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He came almost close
to looking clueless.
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Hewitt: He was a very strong,
athletic individual.
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But he wanted that perception
of being a weak person.
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Woman: Danny Rolling's public
defenders believe
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he hasn't been competent
in quite some time.
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Rolling says he hears voices
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and see demons,
symptoms of psychosis.
400
00:22:07,266 --> 00:22:14,346
♪ My words, all my tears
run together, baby. ♪
401
00:22:14,383 --> 00:22:19,053
Danny was not unintelligent,
and he was not crazy.
402
00:22:19,083 --> 00:22:22,383
He -- in the sense of insane.
403
00:22:22,416 --> 00:22:25,126
He was anything but that.
404
00:22:25,166 --> 00:22:28,996
He wanted to be a superstar
among criminals.
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00:22:29,033 --> 00:22:34,103
Being famous for, you know,
committing horrible crimes.
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00:22:34,133 --> 00:22:36,173
Tried to blame the demons
for turning him
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00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,300
into the kind of person he was.
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00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:42,053
Smith: He had ynnad,
which is one of his spirits
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00:22:42,083 --> 00:22:45,133
that came to him, evil spirits,
410
00:22:45,166 --> 00:22:47,126
which is Danny
spelled backwards.
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00:22:49,266 --> 00:22:53,196
I'll never forget Rod Smith
saying early on,
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he knew right from wrong.
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00:22:55,466 --> 00:22:57,416
Smith: He was very calculating.
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00:22:57,450 --> 00:23:00,020
The person who committed these
crimes was very much in control.
415
00:23:00,050 --> 00:23:02,320
It was all about control.
416
00:23:02,350 --> 00:23:05,120
My lawyers advised me
not to make any, you know,
417
00:23:05,150 --> 00:23:07,030
answer any questions.
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00:23:07,066 --> 00:23:08,366
[ Laughs ]
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Smith: Danny would play games.
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00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:15,270
His narcissism was at the heart
of everything he did.
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00:23:18,166 --> 00:23:20,166
Hewitt: Rolling wanted
to meet with us.
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00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,280
He wanted to tell us
where the murder weapon was.
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00:23:24,316 --> 00:23:27,316
Woman: Heavy equipment pushes up
mound after mound of dirt
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00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:30,450
as metal detectors
search for clues.
425
00:23:30,483 --> 00:23:35,353
We spent months digging
and searching.
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00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,230
And never found
the murder weapon.
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00:23:40,266 --> 00:23:45,296
♪♪
428
00:23:45,333 --> 00:23:48,073
I received word from
the corrections department
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that Danny Rolling wanted
to talk to me.
430
00:23:51,416 --> 00:23:55,426
Rod got word that Danny
wanted to confess.
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00:23:55,466 --> 00:23:57,196
Smith: It was not above him
at all to say,
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00:23:57,233 --> 00:23:59,333
I'm gonna do this
just to throw us off.
433
00:23:59,366 --> 00:24:04,326
But Danny won't talk to them
except through
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this other inmate
named Bobby Lewis.
435
00:24:10,266 --> 00:24:14,146
He was kind
of a notorious inmate.
436
00:24:14,183 --> 00:24:19,103
Bobby Lewis's claim to fame
is he's the only person
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00:24:19,133 --> 00:24:22,283
to ever escape
off death row in Florida,
438
00:24:22,316 --> 00:24:24,366
and that's his claim to fame.
439
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,030
Rolling's idea
was to befriend Lewis
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so he could help him escape.
441
00:24:31,183 --> 00:24:34,473
We went up there to the prison
and met with rolling
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and Bobby Lewis
at the same time.
443
00:24:38,133 --> 00:24:40,233
He wanted to make sure
that we understood
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00:24:40,266 --> 00:24:44,296
that Robert Lewis
was his advocate.
445
00:24:44,333 --> 00:24:46,473
Woman: Rolling would talk only
through a fellow inmate
446
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,130
at Florida state prison.
447
00:24:56,066 --> 00:24:58,096
We told Rolling, "we understand
448
00:24:58,133 --> 00:24:59,483
what you're trying
to get through Lewis,
449
00:25:00,016 --> 00:25:02,416
but we need to hear it
from you."
450
00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:04,400
And he was reluctant to do that.
451
00:25:09,050 --> 00:25:11,200
And so we came up with the idea,
452
00:25:11,233 --> 00:25:15,353
we'll ask Bobby Lewis
the questions.
453
00:25:15,383 --> 00:25:19,103
If it's wrong, you correct him,
and he can tell us.
454
00:25:19,133 --> 00:25:21,283
This was ventriloquism.
455
00:25:21,316 --> 00:25:23,226
This was puppetry.
456
00:25:23,266 --> 00:25:24,416
He was bizarre.
457
00:25:24,450 --> 00:25:27,080
They would ask him questions.
458
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He would lean over,
whisper to Bobby Lewis.
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00:25:31,316 --> 00:25:35,026
Bobby Lewis
would answer for him.
460
00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:39,466
I don't know why they thought
this was such a great idea.
461
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,050
Then we would turn around
and ask Rolling,
462
00:25:42,083 --> 00:25:44,253
"Is what he's
telling us correct?"
463
00:25:44,283 --> 00:25:46,383
Smith: Legran just kept saying,
"Did he get that right, Danny?"
464
00:25:46,416 --> 00:25:51,196
And Danny kept confirming,
so we now had Bobby saying it,
465
00:25:51,233 --> 00:25:53,323
but Danny confirming it.
466
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:56,400
We had the DNA evidence,
and most importantly,
467
00:25:56,433 --> 00:25:59,183
we had him saying what he did.
468
00:25:59,216 --> 00:26:01,426
We thought it was a slam dunk.
469
00:26:01,466 --> 00:26:05,096
But Danny
wouldn't see it that way.
470
00:26:05,133 --> 00:26:08,133
Man:
Rolling has pleaded not guilty
and denies law enforcement
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00:26:08,166 --> 00:26:09,996
reports that he confessed
to the crime.
472
00:26:10,033 --> 00:26:14,323
♪♪
473
00:26:14,350 --> 00:26:16,330
[ Sirens wailing ]
474
00:26:16,366 --> 00:26:18,326
Man: Rolling came to court
in a motorcade,
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00:26:18,366 --> 00:26:20,446
heavy security,
armored vans.
476
00:26:20,483 --> 00:26:23,123
He gave no clue as he stepped
out of the van
477
00:26:23,150 --> 00:26:26,000
as to the bombshell he was
about to drop in court.
478
00:26:26,033 --> 00:26:28,483
I was in journalism school
by the time Danny Rolling
479
00:26:29,016 --> 00:26:33,116
ended up in court,
and I was working for WUFT-GM.
480
00:26:33,150 --> 00:26:36,300
It was an NPR station
run by the students.
481
00:26:36,333 --> 00:26:38,333
It was February 15th.
482
00:26:38,366 --> 00:26:40,376
It was my 50th birthday.
483
00:26:40,416 --> 00:26:42,416
We all went into court.
484
00:26:42,450 --> 00:26:45,150
Lahey: I was standing next
to Diana Hoyt.
485
00:26:45,183 --> 00:26:49,073
All of a sudden, I hear,
"They're bringing him in."
486
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:51,300
And we froze,
and then here he comes.
487
00:26:51,333 --> 00:27:00,233
♪♪
488
00:27:00,266 --> 00:27:03,016
And it's the first time
we've ever seen him.
489
00:27:06,233 --> 00:27:09,353
We had no clue that anything
that was going to happen.
490
00:27:09,383 --> 00:27:11,023
Your honor,
this is the defendant,
491
00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:12,230
Danny Harold Rolling.
492
00:27:12,266 --> 00:27:19,066
Danny Rolling was meticulous,
crafty, and evil.
493
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:22,320
Your honor, I've been running
from first one thing
494
00:27:22,350 --> 00:27:24,370
and then another
all my life,
495
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,420
but there are some things
that you just can't run from.
496
00:27:29,450 --> 00:27:32,050
I leaned a little closer to hear
what they were saying.
497
00:27:32,083 --> 00:27:38,003
And all of a sudden,
the whole town froze.
498
00:27:38,033 --> 00:27:40,233
Sidner: Danny Rolling decided
to plead guilty,
499
00:27:40,266 --> 00:27:44,166
unbeknownst to any of us
that were in the room.
500
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,400
Man: Danny Rolling pleaded
guilty to the gruesome murders
501
00:27:46,433 --> 00:27:50,083
of five Gainesville area
students in August 1990.
502
00:27:50,116 --> 00:27:52,476
I almost questioned
that I'd heard what I did.
503
00:27:53,016 --> 00:27:57,146
There was pin drop silences,
and then gasps.
504
00:27:57,183 --> 00:27:59,403
Stacy:
'It was absolutely stunning.
505
00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:02,373
No one saw that coming.
506
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,400
He says he can't run
for his demons anymore,
507
00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:09,173
and he admitted to killing
all five students.
508
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,480
It was a shock to the system.
509
00:28:12,016 --> 00:28:16,116
I don't recall
that he ever apologized.
510
00:28:18,050 --> 00:28:21,320
Woman: Anna Larson was in court
the day rolling pleaded guilty.
511
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:23,370
Can you ever forgive him?
512
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,250
Larson: What I think about that
is that the people
513
00:28:26,283 --> 00:28:30,283
who need to forgive him
are unavailable.
514
00:28:30,316 --> 00:28:32,076
They are dead.
515
00:28:34,033 --> 00:28:37,423
We learned a lot
that we didn't know before.
516
00:28:37,450 --> 00:28:40,150
Fraser: When Tracy Paules
saw him, she said,
517
00:28:40,183 --> 00:28:41,233
"you're the student killer."
518
00:28:41,266 --> 00:28:45,146
And said to him,
"They will find you."
519
00:28:45,183 --> 00:28:47,023
Listen, I was okay
with just getting a gun,
520
00:28:47,050 --> 00:28:48,470
shooting him,
and that be it.
521
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,370
♪♪
522
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,300
Man: It was a trial
that was to take months,
523
00:28:57,333 --> 00:28:58,483
but today in
a Gainesville courtroom,
524
00:28:59,016 --> 00:29:00,216
6'4" Louisiana drifter
525
00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:02,300
Danny Rolling
put an end to all that.
526
00:29:02,333 --> 00:29:04,353
In a surprise move,
rolling pleaded guilty
527
00:29:04,383 --> 00:29:07,383
to the now infamous
Gainesville student murders.
528
00:29:09,466 --> 00:29:15,076
There are some things
that you just can't run from.
529
00:29:15,116 --> 00:29:17,096
He was not remorseful.
530
00:29:17,133 --> 00:29:19,223
He was never remorseful.
531
00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:21,450
Man: His attorney claims Rolling
decided to plead guilty
532
00:29:21,483 --> 00:29:23,453
in his jail cell last month.
533
00:29:23,483 --> 00:29:26,453
When we've asked him
why he reached this decision
534
00:29:26,483 --> 00:29:28,453
was to do the right thing.
535
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,180
I think it was a play
on his part
536
00:29:32,216 --> 00:29:35,326
to attempt to stay out
of the death chamber.
537
00:29:35,366 --> 00:29:36,416
Taboada:
It was very simple for me.
538
00:29:36,450 --> 00:29:39,480
I've always said I wanted
to refer to him
539
00:29:40,016 --> 00:29:43,416
in the same tense
as my brother --
540
00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:45,000
in the past tense.
541
00:29:45,033 --> 00:29:47,373
♪♪
542
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Man: Should Danny Rolling die
543
00:29:49,033 --> 00:29:52,033
because he murdered five college
students in August 1990,
544
00:29:52,066 --> 00:29:53,276
or should he be allowed
to live
545
00:29:53,316 --> 00:29:56,276
because his mind was warped
by a terrible childhood?
546
00:29:56,316 --> 00:29:58,266
That's the question
before a Gainesville, Florida,
547
00:29:58,300 --> 00:29:59,330
jury now.
548
00:29:59,366 --> 00:30:01,196
The prosecution described
the murders
549
00:30:01,233 --> 00:30:03,273
and said Rolling should die.
550
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:07,400
Smith: That's five humans
tortured to death, premeditated,
551
00:30:07,433 --> 00:30:11,253
planned by a man
with a history of crime.
552
00:30:11,283 --> 00:30:13,403
I had never prosecuted
a case before.
553
00:30:13,433 --> 00:30:16,173
Now, I didn't tell people
that very much.
554
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,380
You must return --
555
00:30:17,416 --> 00:30:22,146
you must return a recommendation
of the death penalty.
556
00:30:22,183 --> 00:30:25,353
Man:
Defense countered that Rolling's
brutal childhood in Louisiana
557
00:30:25,383 --> 00:30:27,133
turned him into a monster.
558
00:30:27,166 --> 00:30:30,446
He came from a very,
very abusive background.
559
00:30:30,483 --> 00:30:34,383
He was a very mentally
disturbed person.
560
00:30:34,416 --> 00:30:39,146
I diagnosed him with borderline
personality disorder.
561
00:30:39,183 --> 00:30:41,203
Woman: His head bowed,
Danny Rolling heard friends
562
00:30:41,233 --> 00:30:45,123
and relatives describe a life
of emotional and physical abuse
563
00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:47,070
at the hands of his father.
564
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,250
Rolling's mother,
ill with cancer,
565
00:30:49,283 --> 00:30:53,033
testified on videotape
to her husband's extremes.
566
00:30:53,066 --> 00:30:56,096
James went straight to
the bedroom where Danny was,
567
00:30:56,133 --> 00:30:58,133
and he grabbed his hair
and held his head back
568
00:30:58,166 --> 00:31:01,166
and put a knife
to his throat.
569
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,220
I accept that he was
damaged goods
570
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:06,370
from his beginnings
in Louisiana,
571
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,180
but many people
have bad parents,
572
00:31:11,216 --> 00:31:13,266
and they don't do what he did.
573
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,220
Woman: Danny Rolling was hustled
into the courthouse
574
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:17,470
wearing a bulletproof
vest under his shirt.
575
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,380
So strong is sentiment
against the confessed killer,
576
00:31:20,416 --> 00:31:23,216
police take no chances.
577
00:31:23,250 --> 00:31:26,080
Hoyt: I went every day
to the court.
578
00:31:26,116 --> 00:31:27,446
I went for Christa.
579
00:31:27,483 --> 00:31:32,373
She was no longer on this Earth
to stand up for herself.
580
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,300
Woman: Tracy Paules's sister
was in tears
581
00:31:34,333 --> 00:31:36,303
even before the first witness
was called.
582
00:31:36,333 --> 00:31:38,373
She knew what was coming.
583
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,200
I had to be there every day
to represent her.
584
00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:44,173
Had to.
585
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:51,180
Umm -- she, umm,
would have done that for me.
586
00:31:51,216 --> 00:31:53,396
I feel like I still want
to protect her.
587
00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:55,103
To me, it's almost
the last thing
588
00:31:55,133 --> 00:31:58,273
I'll ever get to do for her.
589
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:02,280
Every time he mentioned
her name, it was a jolt.
590
00:32:02,316 --> 00:32:05,076
How he went into the apartment
and did what he did,
591
00:32:05,116 --> 00:32:06,996
step by step.
592
00:32:07,033 --> 00:32:10,453
We learned a lot
from the penalty phase
593
00:32:10,483 --> 00:32:13,153
that we didn't know before.
594
00:32:15,433 --> 00:32:18,373
Smith:
We know that Danny originally
had picked somebody else out,
595
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,370
who his first victim
was gonna be.
596
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,020
Have no idea who it is.
597
00:32:23,050 --> 00:32:24,320
He was at the back of a house,
598
00:32:24,350 --> 00:32:29,420
and somebody stumbled around
that house, and Danny ran off.
599
00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:33,020
We were told that,
when Tracy Paules saw him,
600
00:32:33,050 --> 00:32:35,400
she said,
"you're the student killer."
601
00:32:35,433 --> 00:32:38,183
And he told his people
he liked that,
602
00:32:38,216 --> 00:32:40,426
he liked that
she recognized him.
603
00:32:40,466 --> 00:32:44,376
Tracy actually stood up
to him and said to him,
604
00:32:44,416 --> 00:32:46,366
"They will find you."
605
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,380
I'm glad that she was able
to stand up to him in some way.
606
00:32:52,133 --> 00:32:55,133
He wanted to be known
as the greatest
607
00:32:55,166 --> 00:32:57,126
serial killer of all time.
608
00:32:57,166 --> 00:33:01,446
He was the most
despicable person I ever saw.
609
00:33:01,483 --> 00:33:03,233
He would often turn around
610
00:33:03,266 --> 00:33:06,046
and look us right in the eyes
and stare at us,
611
00:33:06,083 --> 00:33:11,123
but he knew all the time that
he was playing to the cameras.
612
00:33:11,150 --> 00:33:13,230
Smith: You have to understand,
in Danny's mind,
613
00:33:13,266 --> 00:33:15,276
everything was always about him.
614
00:33:15,316 --> 00:33:17,296
He wants to be as famous
as possible, you know.
615
00:33:17,333 --> 00:33:20,273
He wants to get the spotlight
every chance he gets.
616
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:22,270
You never knew
what you were gonna get.
617
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:26,020
Fraser: One day he's crazy.
The next day he's singing.
618
00:33:26,050 --> 00:33:28,280
The next day,
he's smiling and happy.
619
00:33:28,316 --> 00:33:30,016
Hicks: He got a girlfriend.
620
00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:32,200
She'd come into the courtroom,
and "I love you."
621
00:33:32,233 --> 00:33:35,033
And she'd wave to him.
622
00:33:35,066 --> 00:33:36,216
It was surreal.
623
00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:39,020
Woman: Rolling's accused
of grandstanding here,
624
00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:42,030
even during
his final plea for mercy.
625
00:33:42,066 --> 00:33:46,176
There's much I'd like to say,
your honor,
626
00:33:46,216 --> 00:33:51,326
about our world, my beliefs,
and the destiny of man.
627
00:33:51,366 --> 00:33:54,046
It was infuriating to watch him.
628
00:33:54,083 --> 00:33:59,373
If only I could bend back
the hands on that ageless clock
629
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,030
and change the past.
630
00:34:03,066 --> 00:34:05,076
But alas.
631
00:34:05,116 --> 00:34:08,216
I am not the keeper of time.
632
00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:12,050
Only a small part of history.
633
00:34:12,083 --> 00:34:15,273
And the legacy of mankind's
fall from grace.
634
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:18,220
And then he'd sit down
and look at the camera.
635
00:34:18,250 --> 00:34:20,400
Absolutely the wrong way to go.
636
00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:27,103
♪♪
637
00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,173
Man: Danny Rolling had
already admitted
638
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,180
he was the serial killer who was
behind the five brutal slayings.
639
00:34:33,216 --> 00:34:35,066
Now it was time
to hear his fate.
640
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:41,030
♪♪
641
00:34:41,066 --> 00:34:42,416
It is ordered and adjudged
that the defendant,
642
00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:46,180
Danny Harold Rolling,
is hereby sentenced to death.
643
00:34:49,233 --> 00:34:51,453
I think some people would say
that it was a shame
644
00:34:51,483 --> 00:34:56,273
that you couldn't do the
sentencing five times, you know?
645
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:58,150
Taboada: Listen, I was okay
with just getting a gun,
646
00:34:58,183 --> 00:35:02,283
shooting him,
and that be it.
647
00:35:02,316 --> 00:35:05,146
Woman: Mario Taboada did what
all the other relatives
648
00:35:05,183 --> 00:35:07,423
of the five students
wanted to do.
649
00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:11,200
Standing up so that
he would have to see me.
650
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,450
It startled everyone.
651
00:35:19,483 --> 00:35:23,233
He was able to address the
person who killed his brother
652
00:35:23,266 --> 00:35:27,016
for the first time
and have that person see him.
653
00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:29,070
Taboada: We have the last say.
654
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:30,180
We will prevail.
655
00:35:30,216 --> 00:35:33,216
Our children's names
will be remembered.
656
00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:37,150
It was fitting that one
of the victim's family members
657
00:35:37,183 --> 00:35:38,483
got the last word.
658
00:35:39,016 --> 00:35:40,416
I have no pity
for this individual.
659
00:35:40,450 --> 00:35:43,430
This is a life form gone bad,
and I don't feel
660
00:35:43,466 --> 00:35:45,316
jack [bleep] for him.
661
00:35:45,350 --> 00:35:49,070
Woman:
Killer Danny Rolling left for
death row under heavy security.
662
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,350
Are you ready to die?
663
00:35:51,383 --> 00:35:53,483
I've been preparing
myself for years.
664
00:36:00,150 --> 00:36:01,420
This is my last interview.
665
00:36:01,450 --> 00:36:05,180
Woman: It is?
I'm not doing any more.
666
00:36:05,216 --> 00:36:10,096
It took forever to go
through the appellate process.
667
00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:13,053
Man: In August 1990,
Rolling went on a three-day
668
00:36:13,083 --> 00:36:17,253
rampage in off-campus apartments
near the University of Florida.
669
00:36:17,283 --> 00:36:20,233
Mann: It's not a matter
of whether he did it or not.
670
00:36:20,266 --> 00:36:22,176
He said he did it.
671
00:36:22,216 --> 00:36:25,046
He just didn't want to die.
672
00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:28,083
This is five horrible,
heartless murders.
673
00:36:28,116 --> 00:36:30,366
Danny Rolling enjoyed
what he did.
674
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,070
It was his supreme
source of joy.
675
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:36,120
He would have done
the same thing again.
676
00:36:38,416 --> 00:36:41,046
Hoyt: During his time while
he was in prison,
677
00:36:41,083 --> 00:36:44,203
he had the students' pictures
above his bunk
678
00:36:44,233 --> 00:36:47,203
so every night,
when he went to sleep,
679
00:36:47,233 --> 00:36:52,453
he could look at those pictures
and relive each crime scene.
680
00:36:52,483 --> 00:36:56,233
You can't keep killing
our children.
681
00:36:56,266 --> 00:36:59,016
Are you ready to die?
682
00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:01,000
I've been preparing myself
for years.
683
00:37:01,033 --> 00:37:09,383
♪♪
684
00:37:09,416 --> 00:37:16,076
It was 16 years in the making.
685
00:37:16,116 --> 00:37:20,026
Hewitt: The families all met
here in Gainesville.
686
00:37:20,066 --> 00:37:23,346
We made arrangements
to escort 'em up
687
00:37:23,383 --> 00:37:25,383
to the Florida state prison.
688
00:37:25,416 --> 00:37:28,226
Hoyt:
We got to see all of the people
that worked on the crime scenes
689
00:37:28,266 --> 00:37:30,466
and who worked with us
through the years
690
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,270
and get to talk to 'em.
691
00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:35,380
Mann: There's a bond
that will always be there.
692
00:37:35,416 --> 00:37:39,046
It's just, you know,
it's something that I cherish.
693
00:37:39,083 --> 00:37:41,353
We were led to the back,
into the room,
694
00:37:41,383 --> 00:37:44,123
and it was very crowded.
695
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:49,080
They brought him out on
his gurney and hooked him up.
696
00:37:49,116 --> 00:37:52,996
It was very, very difficult
to sit through this.
697
00:37:53,033 --> 00:37:57,383
The 52-year-old killer is being
given a lethal dose of drugs.
698
00:37:57,416 --> 00:37:59,096
Lahey: He died too peacefully.
699
00:37:59,133 --> 00:38:02,183
I watched him die
too peacefully.
700
00:38:02,216 --> 00:38:08,116
He was able to take a medical
cocktail and simply go to sleep.
701
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:10,230
It was very anticlimactic.
702
00:38:10,266 --> 00:38:14,246
Considering the -- the violence
703
00:38:14,283 --> 00:38:19,083
that he bestowed
upon these victims.
704
00:38:19,116 --> 00:38:25,416
♪♪
705
00:38:25,450 --> 00:38:31,080
The world became a better place
to not have the evilness here.
706
00:38:31,116 --> 00:38:37,166
On this date, October 25,
2006, at 6:13 P.M.,
707
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,030
the state of Florida
carried out its sentence
708
00:38:39,066 --> 00:38:40,326
against Danny Harold Rolling.
709
00:38:43,150 --> 00:38:45,180
Mr. Rolling sang a song.
710
00:38:45,216 --> 00:38:47,026
"None greater than thee,
oh Lord.
711
00:38:47,066 --> 00:38:48,296
None greater than thee."
712
00:38:48,333 --> 00:38:51,073
Man: And there were five verses,
five choruses.
713
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:54,030
It went on for, I'd say,
between two and three minutes.
714
00:38:54,066 --> 00:38:56,996
He would look at each one of us
in the eye,
715
00:38:57,033 --> 00:38:59,273
and he kept singing his songs.
716
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:03,480
I didn't understand
how he could sit there
717
00:39:04,016 --> 00:39:06,226
after the horrendous crimes
that he has committed
718
00:39:06,266 --> 00:39:10,016
and talked about the angels
watching over him.
719
00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:12,320
I don't understand that.
720
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:16,180
We waited for this time,
and justice was done.
721
00:39:16,216 --> 00:39:18,466
Tracy will always live
in our hearts and our minds.
722
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,470
I thought maybe at that point,
that was closure.
723
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,430
To watch him disappear,
oh, I don't know.
724
00:39:27,466 --> 00:39:30,226
I'm feeling a lot better now.
725
00:39:30,266 --> 00:39:32,026
A lot better now.
726
00:39:32,066 --> 00:39:34,246
But it really wasn't
'cause she's still gone,
727
00:39:34,283 --> 00:39:36,053
and I still hurt.
728
00:39:36,083 --> 00:39:38,273
I still hurt for her.
729
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:41,150
Fraser: Danny Rolling,
he got what he deserved.
730
00:39:41,183 --> 00:39:44,073
The victims, they didn't
get what they deserved.
731
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:48,230
They didn't get to live
their lives, so remember them.
732
00:39:48,266 --> 00:39:49,276
Don't remember him.
733
00:39:49,316 --> 00:39:54,096
♪♪
734
00:39:54,133 --> 00:39:57,223
Emery: Christy, she was the girl
that was cheering
735
00:39:57,250 --> 00:39:59,320
everybody else
up all the time.
736
00:39:59,350 --> 00:40:02,130
When I think of her now,
737
00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:06,116
I literally see her
with a smile on her face.
738
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:08,150
Man: Sonja Larson was 18.
739
00:40:08,183 --> 00:40:12,283
I look forward to being with her
in eternity, you know?
740
00:40:12,316 --> 00:40:17,376
I believe that she's here,
that her presence is here.
741
00:40:17,416 --> 00:40:19,166
Hoyt: They called
Christa glow worm
742
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,100
because she always had
a brilliant smile.
743
00:40:22,133 --> 00:40:28,123
She was always happy,
and she was a pleasure to know.
744
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:30,070
Taboada: You know,
when you least expect it,
745
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:35,150
I will still bump into somebody
who says, you know,
746
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"I knew your brother.
747
00:40:37,266 --> 00:40:39,266
He'll be 24 forever."
748
00:40:42,250 --> 00:40:45,000
Lahey: I told my children
all the time that they have
749
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a guardian angel,
Aunt Tracy.
750
00:40:48,050 --> 00:40:49,370
It brings me comfort.
751
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,130
I just really wish
she were here.
752
00:40:53,166 --> 00:40:55,296
Sidner: If you drive down one
of the main thoroughfares
753
00:40:55,333 --> 00:40:59,473
in Gainesville, there is a wall,
and on that wall, to this day,
754
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,250
there is a memorial to the
five students that were killed.
755
00:41:04,283 --> 00:41:09,453
I think the wall reminds us
that we're all human beings.
756
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,400
Sidner: His name's not on that
mural. Their names are.
757
00:41:12,433 --> 00:41:16,123
He told people he wanted to be
the greatest serial killer
758
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:17,450
of all time.
759
00:41:17,483 --> 00:41:19,383
Hicks: He did not get
what he wanted,
760
00:41:19,416 --> 00:41:21,466
and there is sort of
a sweet justice in that.
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00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:28,000
♪♪
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00:41:28,033 --> 00:41:30,253
Just hours before his execution,
763
00:41:30,283 --> 00:41:34,223
Danny Rolling confessed
to three additional murders.
764
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:36,200
In a written statement,
Rolling said
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00:41:36,233 --> 00:41:38,373
he killed 55-year-Old
Tom Grissom, his daughter,
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00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,470
Julie, and 7-year-old grandson
Sean in Shreveport, Louisiana.
767
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,480
In the decades since
the Gainesville student murders,
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00:41:47,016 --> 00:41:48,446
a scholarship
in the victims' names
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00:41:48,483 --> 00:41:52,003
has raised hundreds
of thousands of dollars.
770
00:41:52,033 --> 00:41:54,403
And the memorial wall bearing
the names of the five killed
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00:41:54,433 --> 00:41:58,473
still stands in remembrance
of promising lives lost.
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I'm Hill Harper.
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Thanks for watching.
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