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Welcome to "How It
Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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In August of 1990,
Gainesville, Florida,
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home to the University
of Florida,
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was named one of the safest
places to live
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in the United States.
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As it turned out, it wasn't.
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Just days before college classes
were about to begin,
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a stranger came to town,
and he brought terror with him.
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His victims, young
and unsuspecting students.
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His unthinkable crimes would
paralyze the campus
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and the entire town
with panic and fear.
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Who could have brought
this kind of violence
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to such a sunny place?
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It would be more than a year
before police could figure out
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who was committing
the Gainesville student murders.
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Here's how it really happened.
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Sidner: It was bone-chilling
'cause it seemed
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like something
out of a terror movie.
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Fear, complete and utter fear.
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Smith:
There's not a single parent that
lived through that time period
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who hasn't said, "Oh, my God,
that could have been mine."
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Reporter:
Fear is bracing the small
town of Gainesville, Florida,
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after the deaths
of five students.
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Darnell:
We were forced to recognize
that horrible things can happen
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to vibrant
and talented individuals
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in a beautiful and pristine
place such as Gainesville.
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Browne: Gainesville
is a wonderful city.
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It's got beautiful trees,
great nature,
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and then you got
the university.
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Hicks: Gainesville
is the University of Florida.
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Large university with
fraternities and sororities,
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and it was a laid-back
sort of atmosphere
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with these wonderful
oak trees there,
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and it was
a beautiful campus.
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And the sun always shone.
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A football town, a college town,
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and I went to school there,
so beer-drinking town.
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It was fun.
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Sidner: August of 1990.
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It was my first year
at the University of Florida.
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Like any freshman,
you show you,
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and you got all the jitters
and the excitement
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of starting
a new school year.
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Hoyt:
Christa was always happy.
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She was always enthusiastic
about everything.
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She enjoyed life.
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She said she wanted to be
a crime scene investigator.
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Reporter:
Manny Taboada and Tracy Paules
had known each other
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since their days here
at American High School.
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Taboada: You know, the great
thing about my brother
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is that he lived life
to the fullest.
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He was an architecture major.
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He was super, super, super happy
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about that particular time
in his life.
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Tracy had this way of
just mesmerizing people.
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She really did.
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She wanted to be a lawyer.
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She had one last semester
left in her Bachelor's degree.
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Browne:
Fall 1990 was my last year,
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so I was looking forward,
you know, to a great year.
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Mann:
Things were on a real high.
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You had a brand-new University
of Florida President,
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John Lombardi.
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You had a brand-new coach
named Steve Spurrier,
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so people were pumped up.
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They were excited about
the fall semester taking place.
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And so there was a lot
of optimism.
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There was a lot of hope
going into 1990.
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And the last thing
on your mind is murder.
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Powell: I know the University
of Florida and Gainesville
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were totally shocked
that day in 1990.
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There was a demonic person
roaming loose.
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This town, it literally
came to life in August.
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It was not uncommon,
not even unexpected,
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that you would have
lots and lots of people
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walking the streets.
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Mann: You could blend into
the University
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of Florida student population
and really not get noticed.
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Sullivan: This man had come
to Gainesville --
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I believe he arrived in --
on August 20th of 1990.
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He was pretty much
a ne'er-do-well.
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He had stayed a couple of days
in a hotel, ran out of money,
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and he started living
in a field off Archer Road.
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He was a voyeur.
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He was a Peeping Tom.
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He would go, and he would
sit outside these apartments
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and watch for a while.
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Later at night, that's when
he would enter in.
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Man:
The apartment was number 113
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in the Williamsburg
Apartment Complex,
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which served as the residence
of Sojna Larson
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and Christina Powell.
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Christina Powell and
Sojna Larson were freshmen.
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They're just good kids.
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Their entire lives were
stretching out before them.
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Reporter: Sojna Larson was 18,
a Baptist church volunteer,
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descried as a typical,
all-American girl.
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Sojna Larson wanted to be
an elementary school teacher.
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Emery: Christy -- nobody ever
called her Christina.
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Maybe her mom if she was mad.
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She was the first in her family
to go to college.
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She was the youngest
of seven children.
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She was very proud that she
was gonna go to college
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and get a four-year degree,
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and it was a very big
accomplishment for her.
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Sullivan:
It was around 3:00 a.m.
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He carried with him
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a Marine Corps
combat knife, very sharp.
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He made his way up to Christina
and Sojna's apartment.
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Man: Entered the apartment
by breaking in
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through the rear door.
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He then crept upstairs,
where he entered into a bedroom
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where Sojna Larson
was asleep.
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He had stabbed Sojna Larson.
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He placed a double strip
of duct tape
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over Sojna Larson's mouth
in order to muffle her cries.
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No one heard anything.
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When he returned downstairs...
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Man: He found
Christina Powell asleep.
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He pressed a double strip
of tape over her mouth
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and taped her hands
behind her,
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stabbing her five times
in the back.
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Emery: Christy's sister was
headed to Gainesville
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with Christy's belongings
to move her into the apartment.
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When she got there,
nobody answered the door,
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and nobody answered the phone.
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Sullivan:
Christina Powell's parents
were coming in the next day.
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They hadn't heard from her.
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When they got to
the apartment complex,
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they saw the cars
were there.
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They knocked on the door,
but there was no answer.
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They had to get
the apartment manager,
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and the apartment manager
ended up calling the police.
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The officer was led in,
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and it wasn't but just
a few seconds
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they spotted the first body.
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Clifton: You've got two young
females that are deceased.
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We do think that at this time
that they are homicides.
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Emery: When we got the news,
it was just like time
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kind of stood
still literally, you know.
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And my mom said --
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I think exactly her words
to me were,
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"Honey, it's Christy."
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That was it.
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When I think of what he did
to her, it tears me apart
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because I can see her face.
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I can see what she went through.
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Clifton: It was a horrific time.
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I realized when I saw those
first two young victims
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that there was no telling
how many more times
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this person
was gonna strike.
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Sullivan:
Before Gainesville was starting
to even really understand
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and digest the one, there would
be a second murder, as well.
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Reporter: It was late yesterday
afternoon the bodies
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of two University
of Florida students
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were found brutally murdered
at their apartment
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only two blocks away
from campus.
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Emery: Christy wanted
to study architecture.
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She was good at graphic design.
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She was only 17.
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Reporter:
Ada Larson takes comfort
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in remembering a daughter
frozen in time.
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Larson:
I have her pictured at 18,
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and she shall be
forever 18 for me.
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Smith: And they were at that
great moment of their lives,
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and it was all cut short.
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Sidner:
Two students had been killed.
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It didn't take long before
everyone started to realize
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that something really
diabolical was going on,
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and the fear set in.
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Mann: You could tell there was
something different
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about these
particular homicides,
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and that's when I knew
we had a problem.
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Clifton:
3533 Southwest 24th Avenue,
apartment M, Gainesville,
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which served as the residence
of Christa Hoyt.
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Hoyt: She was so sweet.
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She had the most beautiful
violet eyes that you ever saw.
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She went through her high
school living at my house.
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Taught
her how to drive a car.
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I helped her make prom dresses,
and we had lots of fun doing so.
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Mann: Christa
had an infectious smile.
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I knew her when she was
a Sheriff's Explorer.
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The Explorer program is
for young people
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that are interested, possibly,
in a law enforcement career.
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She was also an employee
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at the Alachua
County Sheriff's Office.
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She was a very good employee
and a very good Explorer.
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Mann:
She was working the midnight
shift in the records bureau.
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She hadn't shown up for work.
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Sheriff's office sent
a deputy sheriff out to see
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if there was any problem.
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Hewitt: She was a good employee.
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She would either call in,
or she would be at work.
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And so they became
very concerned.
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They knew about
what had happened
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with the first crime scene,
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and I think this even
intensified their concern.
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They knocked on her door
several times
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trying to find her.
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The owner/manager of
the apartments lived on scene.
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I was there actually early
Monday morning, and he said,
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"Do you have a key
to Christy's apartment?"
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A deputy went around to the
backside of the apartment,
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and there was a sliding
glass door back there.
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They were met with a shocking
crime scene, to say the least.
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I followed the sheriff
around there
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and watched him
with his flashlight,
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get down on his hands
and knees.
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And he shined his light up,
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and he could see
the headless body of Christa
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sitting on the edge
of her bed.
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There's no head.
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There's no head.
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I said, "She's not all right,
is she?"
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And he said, "No."
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Fraser:
I was told by one detective,
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it was the most gruesome
crime scenes
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he had ever seen
in his life.
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When I walk into this
small apartment,
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we saw a bookshelf
that was out of place
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in the middle of her bedroom.
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Her head had been placed
on the bookshelf.
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The killer had chopped off
her head,
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set it on a bookcase
in front of a mirror
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so that the officer who opened
the door would see it.
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It was horrific.
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Hoyt:
It was my husband's birthday.
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The police went to his office
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and told him at the time
that she had been killed.
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He called me, and all I heard
was, "Christa's dead."
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We found out that apparently
somebody had broken
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into her apartment
and was waiting for her.
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He was like a Peeping Tom.
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He went and peeped
on her nights before.
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He actually broke in
and waited for her.
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He was inside her apartment.
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Smith:
He surprised her from behind and
placed a choke hold upon her.
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He then taped her mouth
and her hands behind her back.
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He then stabbed Christa Hoyt
through the back with such force
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that her aorta was ruptured,
and she died.
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And I just could imagine
her terror of how hard
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that was on those
last few hours of her life,
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and that is the worst thing
that I have to live with.
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I'm sorry.
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Reporter:
The question now facing police
is, are these murders related?
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Now we had three victims,
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and there was the possibility
that it could continue.
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At this point,
we simply don't know.
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Clifton:
He found Manuel Taboada asleep.
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Sullivan: Manny woke up.
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Manny was a pretty strong guy,
and he started fighting him.
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Reporter: A new school year
is about to begin
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in many parts of the world,
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but in Gainesville, Florida,
this year will be one
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that college students
look back on in horror.
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Browne: It was Monday morning,
probably around 9:00,
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and I was walking
to my first class.
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And the editor of
The Alligator,
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our student newspaper,
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was handing out
individual pieces of paper.
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I learned that three students
had been murdered.
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Reporter: Gainesville police
discovered the first
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two murder victims
Sunday afternoon.
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Yesterday, the third victim
was found,
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reportedly decapitated.
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That's when we started to hear
the word
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that this could be
a serial killer,
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which just didn't
even make sense.
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Hewitt: But then on early
Tuesday morning,
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we learned that there
was another crime scene.
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What is going on?
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Reporter: Every morning brought
more unthinkable tragedy.
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Hewitt: Manny and Tracy, they
were high-school friends,
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and they both come
to the University of Florida,
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and they were roommates here.
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Buyer: Tracy and Manny,
I met them in high school.
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Manny was on the football team,
Tracy was a cheerleader.
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They were both extremely
likeable,
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popular, very outgoing.
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Lahey: Tracy and I, from day
one, very close.
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We did look alike,
we thought alike,
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we kind of spoke
for each other in a sense.
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It annoyed our friends
quite a bit,
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the connection that we had.
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They wondered why I was
always so protective of her.
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Manny was very similar
to Tracy.
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Very big personality, very fun.
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You just want to hang out
with him and laugh.
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I called Tracy on Sunday night
after I saw on the news
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about the first two murders.
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It was Sunday night
before school started,
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and I called Tracy.
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And you know, we both
acknowledged thank God
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she lives in with Manny,
and that that was a safe --
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a safe thing for her.
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And she felt safe.
I felt safe.
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My last words to her were,
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"Be careful
and call me tomorrow.",
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And the next day, tomorrow,
was her first day of school.
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Hewitt:
Tracy, he had been at her window
watching her hours
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before he actually
went back and broke in.
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I don't think he knew Manny
lived there.
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Smith: At approximately
3:00 a.m. on 27 August 1990,
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he broke into the apartment
by prying open the double glass
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sliding door
at the rear of the apartment.
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He found Manuel Taboada asleep.
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When he took the KA-BAR knife,
and he stabbed him
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the first time in the chest,
of course, Manny woke up.
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But Manny was
a pretty strong guy,
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and he started fighting him.
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He wouldn't give up.
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Manny fought like hell.
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I think he was stabbed 31 times.
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Smith: The commotion caused
Tracy Paules
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to come towards
Taboada's bedroom.
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Tracy Paules fled
towards her room
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and attempted
to lock her door.
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He followed, breaking
the bedroom door open.
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Reporter: Tracy Paules
was already terrified
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with the discovery
of three bodies
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when she realized her roommate,
Manuel Taboada,
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had been attacked.
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Tracy Paules said,
"You're the one, aren't you?"
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And he said, "Yes, I am."
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I -- What must have gone
through her mind,
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you know, at that point?
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The next morning,
I called Tracy.
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No answer.
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The whole day, we tried calling
her, left voicemails, nothing.
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Tuesday morning,
nobody's heard from Tracy.
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This is not normal.
353
00:19:31,250 --> 00:19:33,400
Something is going on.
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I contacted another friend
of ours, Tommy.
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Tommy got up,
drove to Tracy's apartment.
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He calls me from the pay phone,
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and he said,
"Look, Tracy's car is here,
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and I don't want to go
peering into her windows
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because there's a serial killer,
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and people are gonna
think I'm crazy."
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So, we called the office
manager,
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and the maintenance man came.
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Tommy hangs up.
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Next call I get, it's Tommy,
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and he's just screaming,
"It's Tracy.
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It's Tracy."
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Woman: After going in four
or five feet, what happened?
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Carroll:
We discovered Tracy's body.
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Lahey: I'll never forget this
for the rest of my life.
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Tracy and I talked
every other night
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when she went back
to Gainesville at 11:00
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because the rates
went down at that time.
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And our plan was to talk
Tuesday,
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and then that Tuesday morning...
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Tracy's dead,
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and she was murdered.
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My life changed forever.
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I really honestly at the time
did not believe it was Tracy.
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I thought Tommy made a mistake,
and at the time,
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I didn't realize Manny was
also inside the apartment.
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To the right, I noted a bedroom
with a bed in it.
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The bed was covered with blood.
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To the left, I noted that
there was another victim.
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Taboada:
I'm driving down I-95, and I'm
changing the radio stations.
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And they were interrupting
programming
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to give some updated news,
and I remember them saying
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that they had found
two more bodies in Gainesville,
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and that there was
a South Florida connection.
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Reporter: Victims four and five,
a young man and a woman,
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were found at an off-campus
student apartment
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complex Tuesday morning.
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Taboada: Starting to describe
the individuals,
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and I knew then
that it was Tracy and Manny.
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♪♪
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It's like a lightning bolt
hits your heart and your soul.
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The first thing that came
to my mind is my mom.
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I just could not imagine
what this was gonna do to her.
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Manny Taboada was an athlete
here at American High School,
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and afterwards,
he continued to lift weights.
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He was big,
well over 6 feet tall,
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not the kind of person,
his friends say,
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who could easily be overpowered.
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00:22:15,016 --> 00:22:17,046
Hewitt: I think it heightened
our concern
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00:22:17,083 --> 00:22:20,083
that this person
didn't have no fear,
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and that he had
the physical capability
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of overtaking a man
and killing him.
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Stacy: Everybody came to
the realization
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that he's not
just looking for women.
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00:22:32,250 --> 00:22:33,370
I mean, it could be anybody.
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00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,420
He could be looking
for anybody to kill.
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Reporter: Police fear the
gruesome nature of the killings
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could mean
there may be more,
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unless they can catch
the student killer first.
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Lombardi: This is not a moment
that any of us would wish
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upon any institution,
any community,
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00:23:00,216 --> 00:23:05,246
or any group
in the United States.
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The senseless violence
comes with no reason,
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and the loss
has no explanation.
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♪♪
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Welcome back.
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In a three-day span
at the end of August 1990,
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five college students
were found
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brutally murdered
in Gainesville, Florida.
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Three were sexually assaulted.
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One was decapitated.
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00:23:33,383 --> 00:23:35,273
The community was terrorized.
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00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:38,280
No one knew who the killer
or killers were
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or when
they would strike again.
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Reporter:
The city of Gainesville
is in a state of fear and panic,
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held hostage by at least
one brutal killer.
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Late Tuesday, the bodies
of a young man and woman --
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Tracy Paules and Manny Taboada,
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were taken from
the apartment complex
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where they had been
found murdered.
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Lahey: That summer was the last
time I got to see her.
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00:24:08,416 --> 00:24:11,196
I remember watching her
walk into the airport,
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00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:14,303
and I just stared at her
for a while.
439
00:24:14,333 --> 00:24:15,403
But I didn't have that feeling
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00:24:15,433 --> 00:24:18,273
that I wasn't gonna
see her again.
441
00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:21,100
In the past, all the victims
had been female.
442
00:24:21,133 --> 00:24:23,283
We did have
one male victim today.
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Taboada: I think I asked a lot
of times, "Are you sure,
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00:24:26,133 --> 00:24:28,133
you know, that it's my brother?"
445
00:24:28,166 --> 00:24:32,366
And they kept saying,
"Yes, unfortunately, it is."
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00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:38,320
Sidner: When we heard that a man
had been killed,
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00:24:38,350 --> 00:24:41,250
everyone thought,
"Okay, nobody's safe."
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00:24:41,283 --> 00:24:42,423
Etheridge: They were scared.
449
00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:45,230
This guy was somewhere
out there.
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Reporter:
With little new information
and the possibility of a killer
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still stalking, anxiety
in Gainesville is on the rise.
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Scary. Because what's
gonna happen next?
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00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,320
You didn't know.
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00:25:00,350 --> 00:25:03,180
The town was in a terror mode.
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00:25:03,216 --> 00:25:04,996
It was horrible.
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00:25:05,033 --> 00:25:08,033
They closed all the stores
as soon as it got dark.
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00:25:08,066 --> 00:25:11,426
Nobody wanted to be out
on the streets.
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00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:13,416
After what had happened
to Christa,
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at night,
everybody slept in my house.
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00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,120
We left the outside lights on,
all the inside lights.
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00:25:20,150 --> 00:25:24,280
We were terrified that somebody
was after our family.
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00:25:24,316 --> 00:25:26,116
We had no clue.
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00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:28,000
Tensions are high right now.
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00:25:28,033 --> 00:25:30,233
We're trying to keep a level
head from our end.
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00:25:30,266 --> 00:25:33,446
Citizens are calling in just
about anything that moves.
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00:25:33,483 --> 00:25:36,103
People were calling
law enforcement
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00:25:36,133 --> 00:25:38,453
at the drop of a hat
on anything
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00:25:38,483 --> 00:25:41,283
that seemed slightly out
of the ordinary.
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00:25:41,316 --> 00:25:42,476
The people there were helpless.
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They didn't know who did this.
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00:25:46,466 --> 00:25:49,476
Why whoever had done this
had picked these people,
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were they arbitrary
selections?
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00:25:51,183 --> 00:25:53,033
Were they targeted?
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I'm really scared.
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00:25:54,433 --> 00:25:57,083
-What are you gonna do?
-I don't know.
476
00:25:57,116 --> 00:25:59,376
I don't know if there's anything
I can do.
477
00:25:59,416 --> 00:26:01,416
You thought about it
every time you were alone,
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00:26:01,450 --> 00:26:03,330
especially when it was dark.
479
00:26:07,233 --> 00:26:11,483
I'll never forget having
the switchblade in one hand
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00:26:12,016 --> 00:26:16,266
and a baseball bat in another
hand and kicking doors in.
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00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:19,220
And I was absolutely at the time
482
00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:23,330
sure there was someone
or someones behind those doors.
483
00:26:23,366 --> 00:26:25,126
I'm afraid every night.
484
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:26,346
Every day, I'm afraid.
485
00:26:26,383 --> 00:26:29,233
We weren't willing to let
our guard down at any point.
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Reporter: Hundreds of students
attended a news conference
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00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:34,000
held on the University
of Florida campus.
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00:26:34,033 --> 00:26:37,123
All wanted to know
how they would be protected.
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00:26:37,150 --> 00:26:40,130
Beginning at 8:00 tonight,
you'll see more police coverage
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00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:42,996
than you've ever seen in
any city you've ever lived in.
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00:26:43,033 --> 00:26:45,373
We can assure you,
we're taking every precaution
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00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,430
to make Gainesville
as secure as possible.
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It doesn't stop until he stops.
494
00:26:55,050 --> 00:27:01,030
In fact, crime dropped like
a rock for the next quarter
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00:27:01,066 --> 00:27:05,376
because literally, there was
a cop on every corner.
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00:27:05,416 --> 00:27:08,026
Students and parents were
going into the hardware stores,
497
00:27:08,066 --> 00:27:09,076
and they were buying locks,
498
00:27:09,116 --> 00:27:10,466
and some people
were buying guns.
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00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,220
And people were told
unilaterally,
500
00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:15,220
"Don't walk alone,
especially at night.
501
00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:16,250
Go with groups."
502
00:27:16,283 --> 00:27:18,353
There was a real panic
on campus
503
00:27:18,383 --> 00:27:21,003
with parents taking
their children out of school
504
00:27:21,033 --> 00:27:23,033
because they were afraid.
505
00:27:23,066 --> 00:27:25,396
Man: I just can't believe
this is happening.
506
00:27:25,433 --> 00:27:28,073
I mean, I'm ready to take
my daughter home
507
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:29,420
until this is cleared up.
508
00:27:29,450 --> 00:27:31,170
And frankly, we were afraid.
509
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,220
Yeah, we're probably
going home today.
510
00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:33,180
A girlfriend of ours
already went home.
511
00:27:33,216 --> 00:27:34,266
Her parents made her go,
512
00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:36,300
and we're probably
gonna do the same.
513
00:27:36,333 --> 00:27:38,323
Reporter: There's been a mass
exodus of students
514
00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:40,230
from the university campus.
515
00:27:40,266 --> 00:27:44,066
Usually it's really packed,
but now there's hardly anybody.
516
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:47,420
By this weekend, there'll
be nobody basically here.
517
00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:50,150
Hicks: This was a place
with fraternities,
518
00:27:50,183 --> 00:27:53,073
sororities,
30,000-plus students.
519
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:54,400
Something was always
going on there,
520
00:27:54,433 --> 00:27:58,333
and there was just --
there was this stillness.
521
00:27:58,366 --> 00:28:00,176
Smith: Gainesville
was very different before.
522
00:28:00,216 --> 00:28:01,446
Never quite the same.
523
00:28:01,483 --> 00:28:05,103
There's an innocence lost that
was never completely regained.
524
00:28:05,133 --> 00:28:07,303
Etheridge:
Just weeks before the killings,
525
00:28:07,333 --> 00:28:09,373
a national magazine
voted Gainesville
526
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,050
one of the most
liveable cities in the country.
527
00:28:13,083 --> 00:28:15,403
Now the people of this normally
placid college town
528
00:28:15,433 --> 00:28:17,273
can only wait and wonder
529
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:22,050
if life here will ever
really be the same.
530
00:28:22,083 --> 00:28:25,353
It appears that the killer
may have spent
531
00:28:25,383 --> 00:28:27,403
some time in the apartment.
532
00:28:27,433 --> 00:28:31,153
He stayed after
he dismembered people.
533
00:28:31,183 --> 00:28:35,103
He stayed and posed people.
534
00:28:35,133 --> 00:28:37,473
And this is after they died.
535
00:28:43,116 --> 00:28:45,346
Reporter: Fear gripped the small
college community of Gainesville
536
00:28:45,383 --> 00:28:47,423
after the bodies
of five college students
537
00:28:47,450 --> 00:28:50,170
were found in three days.
538
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,170
All five were stabbed
repeatedly.
539
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,150
Clifton:
We have every reason to believe
540
00:28:55,183 --> 00:28:57,403
now that all of
the five victims found,
541
00:28:57,433 --> 00:29:00,153
beginning last Sunday afternoon
about 4:00,
542
00:29:00,183 --> 00:29:02,033
then through this morning,
543
00:29:02,066 --> 00:29:08,296
are probably all connected
to one suspect or two suspects.
544
00:29:08,333 --> 00:29:11,373
Hicks: As soon as they realized
that they had five
545
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,030
probably related homicides,
all the media went up there,
546
00:29:16,066 --> 00:29:18,426
which probably certainly
didn't help the tensions
547
00:29:18,466 --> 00:29:20,416
or the concerns at the time.
548
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:26,180
It was causing the level of
anxiety to rise that much more.
549
00:29:26,216 --> 00:29:28,116
Man: You've had five people
that have been murdered
550
00:29:28,150 --> 00:29:30,220
over the past five days.
551
00:29:30,250 --> 00:29:34,130
This is a case that's not
gonna get solved overnight.
552
00:29:34,166 --> 00:29:38,446
Everything that can be done
is being done.
553
00:29:38,483 --> 00:29:41,123
Reporter:
About 600 police officers
are involved
554
00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:42,320
in the hunt for the killer.
555
00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:46,270
So is the FBI.
556
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:49,050
Mann: Chief Clifton
and Sheriff Hindery,
557
00:29:49,083 --> 00:29:53,173
they decided early on
to form a task force.
558
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,420
Approach this thing
with a lot of resources.
559
00:29:57,450 --> 00:30:01,450
Immediately flood the area
with cops.
560
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,050
There was new developments
daily in the case.
561
00:30:10,066 --> 00:30:13,326
Darnell: It appears that
the killer may have spent
562
00:30:13,366 --> 00:30:15,296
some time in the apartment.
563
00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:19,233
He did not go, we don't think,
right in and out,
564
00:30:19,266 --> 00:30:23,296
which is typical in most
violent crime situations.
565
00:30:23,333 --> 00:30:25,183
Hicks: And everyone's head
sort of popped up.
566
00:30:25,216 --> 00:30:28,116
Now, that was that new element.
567
00:30:28,150 --> 00:30:30,230
Fraser:
There was a crime scene expert.
568
00:30:30,266 --> 00:30:33,026
He said it was one of the
cleanest crime scenes
569
00:30:33,066 --> 00:30:35,016
he'd ever seen,
570
00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:37,130
and there wasn't a lot
of evidence left behind.
571
00:30:37,166 --> 00:30:41,366
For instance, he poured
different types of liquid
572
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,130
solvent, dish soap,
573
00:30:44,166 --> 00:30:47,416
over the lower portion
of some of his victims,
574
00:30:47,450 --> 00:30:54,420
and we believe that was in
an effort to eliminate evidence.
575
00:30:54,450 --> 00:30:58,150
Sidner: He stayed after
he dismembered people.
576
00:30:58,183 --> 00:31:03,233
He stayed and posed people
in certain positions.
577
00:31:03,266 --> 00:31:06,226
And this is after they died.
578
00:31:06,266 --> 00:31:08,116
Fraser: He took his time.
579
00:31:08,150 --> 00:31:11,400
This was a despicable SOB
580
00:31:11,433 --> 00:31:15,053
who took his time doing
what he was doing.
581
00:31:15,083 --> 00:31:17,273
Reporter: They are revisiting
all three of the murder sites,
582
00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:19,170
searching for clues
from what they believe
583
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,150
is the work of a deliberate
and methodical killer.
584
00:31:23,183 --> 00:31:27,033
There was leads, thousands
of leads being called in.
585
00:31:27,066 --> 00:31:29,476
Numerous people called in
as suspects.
586
00:31:30,016 --> 00:31:33,116
People were calling in,
everything from,
587
00:31:33,150 --> 00:31:38,450
"You know, I dated this guy,
and he was just bizarre."
588
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,150
I mean, there are so many
individuals, frighteningly so,
589
00:31:44,183 --> 00:31:47,473
out there who could have
committed a crime like this.
590
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,050
Smith:
We were having terrible leaks.
591
00:31:50,083 --> 00:31:52,373
Every time you read the paper,
there's a new suspect.
592
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,230
I think that first week,
Edward Humphrey.
593
00:31:57,266 --> 00:31:59,466
I was told,
"He looks good to us."
594
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,380
Reporter: Investigators have
been very interested
595
00:32:01,416 --> 00:32:06,066
in 18-year-old Edward Humphrey
since shortly after the slaying.
596
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:07,470
He was acting erratically.
597
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,050
He was talking about murder.
598
00:32:11,083 --> 00:32:16,383
He was telling people
he was going on recon missions.
599
00:32:16,416 --> 00:32:19,196
Reporter: Dozens of tips came
into police about him.
600
00:32:19,233 --> 00:32:22,003
His bizarre behavior attracted
a lot of attention
601
00:32:22,033 --> 00:32:26,023
that summer of 1990.
602
00:32:26,050 --> 00:32:30,070
Hicks:
It came out that he had been
observed walking in the woods
603
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:33,130
with a knife or things like that
and acting aberrant.
604
00:32:33,166 --> 00:32:35,116
Reporter: When Edward Humphrey
was a part-time student
605
00:32:35,150 --> 00:32:36,130
in Gainesville,
606
00:32:36,166 --> 00:32:38,116
he used to carry
a large hunting knife
607
00:32:38,150 --> 00:32:41,230
and go on what they called a
night-time reconnaissance trip.
608
00:32:41,266 --> 00:32:43,226
This week alone, the University
of Florida police
609
00:32:43,266 --> 00:32:45,416
were granted two warrants
for Humphrey's arrest.
610
00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:48,120
Two students claim
he threatened them
611
00:32:48,150 --> 00:32:52,230
with a knife the day before
the first bodies were found.
612
00:32:52,266 --> 00:32:54,996
Hoyt:
I recognized Edward Humphrey.
613
00:32:55,033 --> 00:32:57,233
I had gone to a doughnut shop
614
00:32:57,266 --> 00:33:00,376
that was not very far
from Christa's,
615
00:33:00,416 --> 00:33:03,416
and I had stopped there
right before Christa's death
616
00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:06,050
to get some doughnuts
to take home.
617
00:33:06,083 --> 00:33:08,473
When I came back out,
he followed me,
618
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,200
and he's saying
something to me about,
619
00:33:11,233 --> 00:33:13,403
"You have somebody you're taking
these doughnuts home to?"
620
00:33:13,433 --> 00:33:15,023
And I turned around
and looked at him.
621
00:33:15,050 --> 00:33:16,180
I said, "Yeah.
622
00:33:16,216 --> 00:33:19,146
He's about 6'4",
and he'd like to meet you."
623
00:33:19,183 --> 00:33:21,153
I knew he was in that area.
624
00:33:21,183 --> 00:33:26,283
I knew what he had said to me
and how he had approached me.
625
00:33:26,316 --> 00:33:29,446
So, yes, I recognized him
right away.
626
00:33:29,483 --> 00:33:34,233
Then, of course, everybody here
became very suspicious.
627
00:33:34,266 --> 00:33:36,316
Reporter: Humphrey was arrested
yesterday morning
628
00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:40,030
for beating his
79-year-old grandmother.
629
00:33:40,066 --> 00:33:43,266
Hicks: The fact that he had
assaulted his grandmother
630
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:46,450
was pretty unnerving,
and she -- she was tough.
631
00:33:46,483 --> 00:33:50,133
She was angry, and she
was not angry at him.
632
00:33:50,166 --> 00:33:54,376
Get away!
Get away, you damn fools!
633
00:33:54,416 --> 00:33:56,316
She was angry at us.
634
00:33:56,350 --> 00:33:59,230
Reporter:
Humphrey's entire family
has been besieged by the media
635
00:33:59,266 --> 00:34:01,416
ever since he was identified
by police last week
636
00:34:01,450 --> 00:34:05,030
as one of several suspects
in the Gainesville murders.
637
00:34:05,066 --> 00:34:07,096
Hicks: I also remember how
pained his brother
638
00:34:07,133 --> 00:34:09,423
was trying to talk
to the media and saying,
639
00:34:09,450 --> 00:34:12,020
"I don't believe
he would do this."
640
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:13,280
My brother did not
do these killings.
641
00:34:13,316 --> 00:34:15,016
He's no way connected
with Gainesville.
642
00:34:15,050 --> 00:34:18,450
He's not capable
of killing anybody, okay?
643
00:34:18,483 --> 00:34:21,033
Hicks: This is not who did this.
644
00:34:21,066 --> 00:34:22,146
Humphrey:
Can I say one thing?
645
00:34:22,183 --> 00:34:23,353
Man: You probably don't want to
talk about it now
646
00:34:23,383 --> 00:34:25,483
till you get a chance to talk to
your attorney first, all right?
647
00:34:26,016 --> 00:34:27,446
No, I just --
innocent until proven guilty.
648
00:34:27,483 --> 00:34:31,183
Okay.
649
00:34:31,216 --> 00:34:32,396
Krop: We start talking.
650
00:34:32,433 --> 00:34:35,083
He said, "I just want to know
whether everything
651
00:34:35,116 --> 00:34:36,446
I tell you
is confidential."
652
00:34:36,483 --> 00:34:39,303
He then went on to share
with me,
653
00:34:39,333 --> 00:34:43,433
word by word,
or scene by scene,
654
00:34:43,466 --> 00:34:48,066
and told me about
the five homicides.
655
00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:05,233
Lombardi: Thank you very much
for joining us here today
656
00:35:05,266 --> 00:35:09,366
at a memorial
for Christa Leigh Hoyt,
657
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:15,480
Sojna Jane Larson,
Tracy Inez Paules,
658
00:35:16,016 --> 00:35:23,196
Christina Patricia Powell,
and Manuel Ricardo Taboada.
659
00:35:23,233 --> 00:35:26,373
Browne: Your heart goes
to the families, even now,
660
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,400
because folks were able
to move on
661
00:35:29,433 --> 00:35:32,283
with the rest of their semester,
the rest of their lives,
662
00:35:32,316 --> 00:35:36,146
and to know that these families
and these very close friends
663
00:35:36,183 --> 00:35:38,303
were not gonna be able
to do that,
664
00:35:38,333 --> 00:35:40,023
that was the hardest thing.
665
00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:41,420
Reporter: The five victims of
the murder spree
666
00:35:41,450 --> 00:35:44,230
have all been laid to rest.
667
00:35:44,266 --> 00:35:46,376
Emery: Nothing made sense.
668
00:35:46,416 --> 00:35:50,346
A lot of it is a blur.
669
00:35:50,383 --> 00:35:53,183
Buyer: It was very difficult.
670
00:35:53,216 --> 00:35:55,016
I mean, we ended up having --
671
00:35:55,050 --> 00:35:59,270
we're going to two wakes
and two funerals of our friends.
672
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:02,320
I mean, it was just so many
questions,
673
00:36:02,350 --> 00:36:07,380
and it was hard to find any type
of comfort in not knowing.
674
00:36:07,416 --> 00:36:10,246
Reporter:
Also uncertain is whether
police are looking for one,
675
00:36:10,283 --> 00:36:12,203
two, or more suspects.
676
00:36:12,233 --> 00:36:18,083
We didn't know that they had
any suspects until Ed Humphrey.
677
00:36:18,116 --> 00:36:20,076
Reporter: Investigators from
Gainesville questioned Humphrey
678
00:36:20,116 --> 00:36:22,116
for 12 hours.
679
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:25,170
Stacy: He had scars on his face.
680
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,300
He was acting erratically.
681
00:36:27,333 --> 00:36:34,023
He was just almost
an obvious suspect.
682
00:36:34,050 --> 00:36:37,350
Reporter:
Edward Humphrey remains one of
the prime suspects in the case,
683
00:36:37,383 --> 00:36:39,173
but police caution
that he is only one
684
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,020
they are now investigating.
685
00:36:44,216 --> 00:36:46,296
The town was still gripped
with fear.
686
00:36:46,333 --> 00:36:48,433
Reporter: A nationwide search
is underway,
687
00:36:48,466 --> 00:36:51,146
but the suspect list
remains fluid.
688
00:36:51,183 --> 00:36:52,373
And in the words of one
authority,
689
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,030
the investigation at this stage
is a massive whodunit.
690
00:36:57,066 --> 00:37:02,026
Then there was a robbery at
a grocery store 30 miles away.
691
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,350
I was a sergeant in
the investigations
692
00:37:08,383 --> 00:37:11,003
on the west side of Ocala.
693
00:37:11,033 --> 00:37:12,423
The robbery call goes out.
694
00:37:12,450 --> 00:37:15,180
Ocala PD officers
did a remarkable job
695
00:37:15,216 --> 00:37:17,996
and were right there
as he was pulling out.
696
00:37:18,033 --> 00:37:21,423
And we got into a chase.
697
00:37:21,450 --> 00:37:24,300
He actually almost hit my wife,
who was pregnant.
698
00:37:24,333 --> 00:37:26,083
Finally took him into custody,
699
00:37:26,116 --> 00:37:27,276
brought him
to our district offices,
700
00:37:27,316 --> 00:37:30,026
and I actually interviewed him.
701
00:37:30,066 --> 00:37:31,226
Reporter:
Danny Rolling told police
702
00:37:31,266 --> 00:37:34,126
he's a 36-year-old
unemployed laborer.
703
00:37:34,166 --> 00:37:37,116
He told them that when he was
arrested for holding a gun
704
00:37:37,150 --> 00:37:40,220
to the head of an employee
of this Ocala grocery store,
705
00:37:40,250 --> 00:37:43,350
and then leading them
on a wild chase through town.
706
00:37:43,383 --> 00:37:45,123
Graham: He was very chatty.
707
00:37:45,150 --> 00:37:48,380
When I talked to him,
he confessed to the robbery.
708
00:37:48,416 --> 00:37:53,146
He was incredibly apologetic
and genuinely felt bad
709
00:37:53,183 --> 00:37:54,433
about what he did.
710
00:37:54,466 --> 00:37:56,016
He acted like a little kid
711
00:37:56,050 --> 00:37:58,070
who had been caught
doing something wrong.
712
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,120
Man: Did you have any
mental problems, Mr. Rolling?
713
00:38:01,150 --> 00:38:07,320
♪♪
714
00:38:07,350 --> 00:38:09,450
Reporter: Rolling is also wanted
in Louisiana
715
00:38:09,483 --> 00:38:11,423
on an attempted
murder charge.
716
00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:14,030
He's accused of shooting
his father,
717
00:38:14,066 --> 00:38:16,476
a retired Shreveport
police officer.
718
00:38:17,016 --> 00:38:19,366
We learned that he grew up
in a very abusive household.
719
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080
His father was a Shreveport,
Louisiana,
720
00:38:22,116 --> 00:38:25,176
police officer
who had a terrible temper,
721
00:38:25,216 --> 00:38:29,316
was apparently caustic,
abusive to Danny.
722
00:38:29,350 --> 00:38:31,250
He was married for a short time.
723
00:38:31,283 --> 00:38:33,033
He went into the Air Force,
you know,
724
00:38:33,066 --> 00:38:35,116
he didn't really do
all that well there.
725
00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:38,480
He gets out, and at one point,
he took up armed robbery.
726
00:38:39,016 --> 00:38:41,096
And he wasn't really good
at that, either.
727
00:38:41,133 --> 00:38:43,483
Reporter: He was convicted of
armed robbery, stealing cars,
728
00:38:44,016 --> 00:38:46,296
and spent time
in a state penitentiary.
729
00:38:49,033 --> 00:38:54,103
He was the type of person
that confessed to what he did.
730
00:38:54,133 --> 00:38:56,483
He always confessed.
731
00:38:57,016 --> 00:38:58,176
♪ What were my words? ♪
732
00:38:58,216 --> 00:39:03,096
♪ All my tears
run together, baby ♪
733
00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:05,053
Reporter: Danny Rolling's
public defenders believe
734
00:39:05,083 --> 00:39:08,033
he hasn't been competent
in quite some time.
735
00:39:08,066 --> 00:39:11,996
Rolling says he hears voices
and sees demons.
736
00:39:12,033 --> 00:39:14,033
Krop: I was asked by the --
737
00:39:14,066 --> 00:39:18,126
I believe she was the assistant
chief public defender in Ocala
738
00:39:18,166 --> 00:39:20,996
to evaluate his competency
and mental state
739
00:39:21,033 --> 00:39:23,153
at the time of the charge.
740
00:39:23,183 --> 00:39:26,103
And we start talking,
and he gave me his history
741
00:39:26,133 --> 00:39:29,053
and talked about
the armed robbery.
742
00:39:31,116 --> 00:39:32,326
He said, "I just want to know
743
00:39:32,366 --> 00:39:35,396
whether everything I tell you
is confidential."
744
00:39:35,433 --> 00:39:38,483
And I assured him.
745
00:39:39,016 --> 00:39:41,366
He then went on to share
with me,
746
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,230
word by word,
or scene by scene,
747
00:39:45,266 --> 00:39:48,216
and told me about
the five homicides.
748
00:39:52,483 --> 00:39:57,283
Christian:
Danny Rolling confessed to
all five murders in Gainesville.
749
00:39:57,316 --> 00:40:00,466
Danny Rolling wanted to confess.
750
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Once he made his confessions
to me,
751
00:40:04,033 --> 00:40:07,383
I started realizing that
I couldn't tell anybody.
752
00:40:07,416 --> 00:40:11,276
This was a confidential
evaluation.
753
00:40:11,316 --> 00:40:14,066
Christian: It's the equivalent
of a parishioner
754
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,200
telling a priest
something in confession.
755
00:40:16,233 --> 00:40:20,333
You're just not allowed to break
that seal of confidence.
756
00:40:20,366 --> 00:40:22,416
If you make a movie like that,
they'd go,
757
00:40:22,450 --> 00:40:24,250
"No, he didn't do that."
758
00:40:24,283 --> 00:40:25,353
It's just surreal.
759
00:40:25,383 --> 00:40:28,183
It's all surreal.
760
00:40:28,216 --> 00:40:30,276
Reporter:
Two suspects aren't in jail.
761
00:40:30,316 --> 00:40:32,126
I don't think that they know
who it is.
762
00:40:32,166 --> 00:40:35,346
Reporter:
Law enforcement officials,
though, say be patient.
763
00:40:35,383 --> 00:40:38,423
Hewitt: We brought in the K-9s,
and the K-9s tracked him
764
00:40:38,450 --> 00:40:42,130
through the wooded area,
tracked to a campsite.
765
00:40:42,166 --> 00:40:47,216
After the DNA was processed,
everything fell into place.
766
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:49,230
Then the question became,
was there anybody else
767
00:40:49,266 --> 00:40:50,996
involved with them or not?
768
00:40:51,033 --> 00:40:53,373
That's what we were
waiting to find out.
769
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,300
Every time he mentioned
her name, it was a jolt.
770
00:40:57,333 --> 00:41:00,223
How he went into the apartments,
771
00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:02,450
told her how he was
going to kill her.
772
00:41:02,483 --> 00:41:06,033
To think that this monster
was in there
773
00:41:06,066 --> 00:41:08,166
and had done these things.
774
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,230
That's what he wanted.
775
00:41:09,266 --> 00:41:13,276
He wanted to be a superstar
among criminals.
776
00:41:13,316 --> 00:41:17,276
There as pin-drop silence
and then gasps
777
00:41:17,316 --> 00:41:20,226
because none of us expected
what happened in court.
778
00:41:23,333 --> 00:41:25,423
It was months after the murders,
779
00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:28,350
and no one had been charged
with the brutal killings.
780
00:41:28,383 --> 00:41:30,233
One possible suspect,
Edward Humphrey,
781
00:41:30,266 --> 00:41:33,376
was already serving time
on unrelated assault charges.
782
00:41:33,416 --> 00:41:36,416
A second possible suspect,
Danny Rolling,
783
00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:39,230
was also behind bars
for armed robbery.
784
00:41:39,266 --> 00:41:42,216
Could either of these men
be the Gainesville killer?
785
00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:44,130
What would finally
lead investigators
786
00:41:44,166 --> 00:41:47,096
to find the madman
behind these unthinkable crimes?
787
00:41:47,133 --> 00:41:50,173
Find out on the next
"How It Really Happened."
788
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,030
I'm Hill Harper.
789
00:41:52,066 --> 00:41:53,376
Thanks for watching.
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