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♪♪
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I'm satisfied with my blanket
statement that I'm innocent.
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No man is truly innocent.
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I mean, we all have transgressed
in some way in our lives, and as
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I say, I've been impolite and
there are things I
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regret having done in my life,
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but nothing like the things I
think the jury are referring to.
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Welcome to
"How It Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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In 1980, the name Ted Bundy was
one of the most recognized
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in America, but for all the
wrong reasons.
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The charismatic former law
student was facing
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the electric chair for the
brutal murders
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of two sorority sisters and a
12-year-old girl in Florida.
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Bundy was also suspected in
dozens of additional murders
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across the country, but always
maintained his innocence.
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Now in a fight to save his own
life,
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Bundy launched a series of
appeals from death row.
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Would it work?
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Here's how it really happened.
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WOMAN: A wave of fear swept all
across the state of Washington
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from January to July of 1974
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when someone was abducting young
women.
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Witnesses told of a
smooth-talking, good-looking
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young man named Ted, who'd been
seen talking with them.
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Police released a composite
drawing and description of Ted.
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The newspaper put the composite
out and my friend threw
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the picture on the table, the
composite, and she said
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to me,
"Who do you think that is?"
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I said, "Well, it's Ted.
Why?"
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And then she burst into tears
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because that looked a lot like
her boyfriend, Ted Bundy.
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A lot like him.
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There was nothing that would
lead me to think
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that he was a violent man.
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Ted was born in a home for unwed
mothers in Vermont in 1946.
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Bundy's mother, she was a single
mother.
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Ted, being the oldest and you
might say my pride and joy,
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our relationship was always very
special.
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A very normal active boy.
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He did all the things that most
boys like to do.
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MAN: Theodore Robert Bundy
at age 25,
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a Republican campaign worker in
Seattle;
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at 28, a University of Utah
law student.
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SULLIVAN: Bundy was someone who
was surging ahead in life,
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seemed to have a lot going for
him.
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His friends would even say,
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"Now, there's somebody that's
going to make a mark in life."
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They were right about that,
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but not in the way that they
thought.
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MAN:
Theodore Bundy was convicted of
murder in the 1978 killings
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of two sorority sisters and a
12-year-old girl.
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The FBI says he is a suspect in
the sex-related murders
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or disappearance of more than 30
other women in four states
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between 1974 and 1978.
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People have said he was evil.
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I think he was just a savage,
feral, wild monster
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that that was loose on
humankind.
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MAN: Lynda Ann Healy,
19-year-old Donna Manson,
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Kathy Parks,
22-year-old Brenda Ball,
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18-year-old Georgann Hawkins,
Janice Ott,
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18-year-old Denise Naslund,
Susan Rancourt.
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She had gone cross campus to a
meeting,
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and she never came back.
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SULLIVAN:
He was very big on using the
ruse of a helpless person
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and Bundy depended on good, kind
women
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with good hearts helping him.
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This guy came up and asked me to
help him
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put his sailboat onto his car.
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PACKER: He looks clean cut.
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You're only going to help for
two or three minutes and then,
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bam, you're in the car, and a
couple hours later, you're dead.
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It really hit me like a ton of
bricks because I knew
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if I had made that wrong
decision, it could have been me.
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MAN: Young ladies began to
disappear in Utah.
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More disappearances, this time
in Colorado.
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SULLIVAN: He was smart.
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He really was, and he did
everything he could
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to gain advantage over people
and situations.
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MAN: Prosecutors convicted Bundy
not of murder,
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but of attempted kidnapping and
sent him to prison.
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He managed to escape from jail
twice.
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MAN:
Bundy, who had been awaiting
trial for the January 12, 1975,
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murder of a Michigan nurse near
Aspen, Colorado, escaped
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from a Colorado jail
on December 31, 1977.
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He's got $700 with him, that's a
lot of money back then,
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caught a flight to Chicago.
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From Chicago, he took a train to
Ann Arbor,
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went through Nashville, went
down to Atlanta,
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took a Trailways bus to
Tallahassee,
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and the circus began in Florida.
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MAN: Two Florida state sorority
sisters were strangled to death
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and three others brutally beaten
with a club
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the morning of January 15, 1978.
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Bundy had entered through an
unlocked door on the first floor
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of the Chi Omega sorority house,
had gone up the back stairs.
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I woke up to being attacked.
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There was blood everywhere.
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The next thing I remember, I was
in the hospital.
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We were just so overwhelmed with
grief.
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Complete and utter shock, we --
we still don't believe it.
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It just can't be.
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MAN: This is no ordinary murder
trial.
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The case of Ted Bundy, a man
suspected of murdering
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two Florida state coeds and
beating three others
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a year and half ago, has caught
the attention
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of the national press.
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During a court recess the
defendant, Theodore Bundy,
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who was partially acting as his
own attorney,
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examined some of the evidence.
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Now he got to be his own lawyer
in the most celebrated
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and widely watched trial in
Florida history.
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He strutted and preened
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and he loved to cross-examine
witnesses.
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BUNDY: Before I forget to ask
the $64,000 question,
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"Did you have a search warrant
to search my car?"
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No, sir.
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Putting yourself in position of
being your own counsel,
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you're going to do it because
the person you're representing
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is innocent.
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WOMAN:
Bundy said he was hopeful and
optimistic jurors
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would see things his way.
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They did not.
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This court is hereby imposing
the death penalty
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upon the defendant,
Theodore Robert Bundy.
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BUNDY: I don't even like to
think of that day.
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I heard my mother crying.
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It's just impossible.
It's wrong.
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When we was sentenced to death,
my gut feeling was
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he'll never hurt anyone ever
again.
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I don't think it will be over
really for any of us
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until they finally execute him.
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I think I stand about as much
chance of dying in front
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of a firing squad or in a gas
chamber as you do being killed
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in a plane flight home because
it's not going to happen.
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MAN: Ted Bundy sits on Florida's
death row convicted
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of the brutal murders
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of two Florida State University
sorority sisters
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and a 12-year-old
Lake City girl.
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JORDAN:
After being given the death
penalty twice, Ted Bundy became
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a resident of death row, and
then, of course,
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he started his appeals process.
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When the death warrant, the
first one, was signed
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for Ted Bundy, he had a petition
pending
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in the Supreme Court, but the
Supreme Court doesn't like
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to deal with clients who
represent themselves,
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so I agreed to do it.
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Mr. Bundy was denied a fair
trial.
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JORDAN: He argued that he had
been denied his right
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to a fair trial because of, all
things, ineffective counsel.
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The irony of that, of course, is
that Ted Bundy acted
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as his own counsel.
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I mean, there must have been a
kind of theatrical thrill
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for him getting to play lawyer
after washing out
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as a law student.
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He was playing lawyer, and he
wasn't aware
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of what the consequences were
going to be.
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Just let go of me.
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Mr. Bundy spent a good deal of
his time
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essentially intoxicated.
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MAN: The alcohol was found in
the cans of V8 juice.
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What?
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CHINO: Ted was a handsome guy.
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I kind of found it interesting
to watch him litigate.
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It was Ted, typical Ted.
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The -- his movements, the way he
looked.
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He always would look, sort of,
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like this when he was in the
thing.
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It was Ted, you know.
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The Ted I knew, anyway.
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I just think that he was
egotistical
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and didn't want to be wrong
about anything.
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BAILIFF: Please be seated.
Court will come to order.
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He just felt like no attorney
was as good as he was.
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MAN: Bundy employed as many as
14 defense attorneys,
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and even represented himself at
times.
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His attorneys now say that
representation was ineffective
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and are asking for a new trial.
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The ineffective counsel claim
was rejected
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by the higher courts, so Ted's
lawyers brought a claim
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of mental incompetence.
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I'm not going through this, and
you knew that, Your Honor.
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JUDGE: Sit down.
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You know how far you could push
me.
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MAN: His lawyers claim Bundy is
mentally incompetent
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and therefore, cannot be
executed under Florida law.
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And this was something that Ted
Bundy had absolutely fought
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against and rejected in his
first two trials.
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Because Bundy had an ego and had
had some legal training,
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he would not allow his defense
attorneys to do that.
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But now that his life was on the
line,
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he was willing to offer it.
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COLEMAN:
In fact, he didn't object, he
didn't argue against it
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because I think at that point,
he realized that, you know,
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now you can actually get
executed, so, you know,
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you got to decide, do you want
to live
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or do you want to be the star of
your reality program.
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Ted Bundy's behavior had become
increasingly bizarre
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in the Kimberly Leach trial.
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Mr. Bundy spent a good deal of
his time,
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essentially intoxicated.
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The alcohol was found in the
cans of V8 juice,
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resealable 16-ounce cans
of V8 juice.
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There were several, small
containers we found out later
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were mixed with vodka.
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I'll be darned.
I didn't know that.
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During the death penalty phase
of our trial,
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Bundy actually did closing
argument with the jury.
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Ted decided to take the lead
role in trying
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to convince the jury to spare
his life.
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And so there's this great
photograph,
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and I have a copy of the paper
from the Orlando Sentinel
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with Bundy talking to the jury.
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DEKLE: As he stood there
with his bowtie
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and he spread
his arms out like this,
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and he compared himself
to Jesus Christ.
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JORDAN:
The most baffling moment was
when Ted questioned
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Carole Boone, and he called her
as a character witness.
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MAN: Carole Boone says she first
met Ted Bundy five years ago
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when they worked in the same
office in Seattle, Washington.
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Some have called her his
girlfriend.
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Let me put it this way.
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I don't think that Ted belongs
in jail.
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THOMPSON:
She was in contact with Ted
daily.
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He would give her instructions
for the defense team
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and we were to carry out his
instructions.
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She was quite forceful in making
us do these things
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that Ted wanted done.
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She cooked up an idea that he
would call her as a witness
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in the penalty phase of the
trial.
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He used the penalty phase of the
trial, when the jury is
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considering whether he should be
sentenced to death,
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to get married.
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Very well thought-out plan.
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They had the blood test.
They had the marriage license.
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Somewhere, they recruited a
notary public to come sit
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in the audience and wait for
Bundy
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to pronounce him and
Carole Boone man and wife.
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I think it was pragmatic.
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They needed to have a court
proceeding and so this was going
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to be a legally binding
marriage, and the only way they
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could do it was in the
courtroom.
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MAN: And he asked her, you know,
"Do you love me?"
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And she said, "Oh, yes.
I do."
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And he said, "I love you."
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And we just, you know, were
hanging on each question.
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MAN:
He said, "Will you marry me?"
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And she said, "Yes, I will."
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I hereby marry you, and we're
going, "What?"
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And he said, "I now pronounce us
man and wife,"
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and the notary public signed the
marriage license, and by golly,
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they were married right there in
the middle of the penalty phase.
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MAN:
Bundy's attorneys claim that in
itself should have raised
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a red flag about his mental
condition.
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They agreed with us that there
was sufficient evidence
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of Bundy's incompetence that we
were entitled to a hearing.
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MAN:
The three-judge panel issued the
stay of execution
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without comment.
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JORDAN: For three years Ted
Bundy's attorney, James Coleman,
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argued his case all the way from
the state appellate court to the
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Supreme Court, and he succeeded
in winning
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three stays of execution.
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But in January of 1989,
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the clock ran down on the fourth
death warrant.
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He wanted to live.
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I'm at the Florida state prison,
going to interview Ted Bundy.
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Ted realized that he had
information
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that law enforcement wanted.
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That's when we received the call
that he wanted to talk to us.
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WOMAN:
Ted Bundy, a onetime law student
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who became one of the FBI's
ten most wanted,
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stands convicted of three
murders and is still suspected
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in more than 30 others.
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Nearly nine years ago, Bundy
made tape recordings
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in his Florida jail cell for two
authors who chronicled
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his criminal career.
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Bundy was emotional about
hearing reports of his case.
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MAN: Bundy has been in Florida's
state prison
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on death row
for nearly 10 years.
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He has been sentenced to death
four times in old sparky,
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the state's electric chair.
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It was very disappointing to me
that this guy had, you know,
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not received a fair trial.
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What's ahead for convicted
murderer Theodore Bundy now
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is a long appeals process.
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COLEMAN: What we have to do is
to prepare to litigate
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in three or four courts at the
same time.
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I called it litigation at the
speed of light.
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That's what it felt like.
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This is the second death warrant
the governor has signed
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for Ted Bundy.
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We would file in the circuit
court --
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He's entitled to a new sentence.
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-- in the Florida
Supreme Court --
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Ted should be dead.
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I think he's been on death row a
little bit too long.
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-- Federal District Court.
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WOMAN: A state prison van took
convicted killer Ted Bundy
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back to death row.
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We went large and appealed in
the 11th Circuit.
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And then we went large and
application
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for a stay in the Supreme Court.
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He appeared to be rational and
he made arguments, but much
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of what he did even at the
hearing undermined his defense.
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MAN: Although Bundy managed to
avoid one of Governor Graham's
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death warrants, another is
imminent.
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RUBIN:
And he kept getting stays.
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Different judges gave him stays
for a number of years.
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MAN: The U.S. Appellate court
ruling marks
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the second time Florida has
tried to execute
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Ted Bundy and the second
time it's been blocked.
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He represents what's worst about
the system
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and why you have capital
punishment,
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to get rid of those who engage
in heinous crimes
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that takes somebody else's life.
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I kept thinking of Margaret and
Lisa, how their lives
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would have been, could
have been wonderful,
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and it upset me that
he took that away.
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It's time to end it now.
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He took their life, shouldn't he
give his?
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I was just feeling, well -- the
judges, they give him stays,
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should have their daughter date
him.
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MAN: The life or death of
convicted murderer Ted Bundy
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is now in the hands of the
Florida Supreme Court.
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From the start of 1989, Ted
Bundy and his lawyers had been
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successful in three stays of
execution, but the fourth death
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warrant scheduled for Tuesday,
January 24, 1989, was looming.
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COLEMAN:
When we got the last warrant, I
think that there was an enormous
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pressure on the judges,
especially, to not allow
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this person to get out of a
conviction.
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MAN: Are you tired this is going
on for so long?
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Absolutely.
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I don't think the public being
fed up has anything to do
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with whether we ought to pursue
Constitutional claims.
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That's the way the system works.
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I think the end is drawing very
near,
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and the final chapter on Ted
Bundy is about to be written.
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I went up and talked to his
mother a couple times.
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I felt very sorry for her.
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We gave him a good upbringing,
and something has happened
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to him sometime since he left
this house that has
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triggered some terrible madness
inside of him.
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She just simply could not even
comprehend it, and was,
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for a better word, she was a
basket case.
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I guess it's been going on for
so long that we have,
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little by little, been realizing
that this was going to happen,
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eventually, and I won't say I
really accept it,
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but I know it's going to happen,
and we've just have
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to learn to live with it.
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Every mom wants their child to
be a success.
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Every mom, and to see this
happen was,
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I'm sure, it's what killed her
as time went by.
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THOMAS: It was very sad for me
to know that he had a mother
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that loved him so much, and he
seemed like
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such a handsome man and with
such a future and it's shocking.
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It's a shocking story.
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MAN: Bundy was described by
prison officials as becoming
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increasingly nervous as his
execution approached.
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He was quiet most of the time.
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He seemed a little depressed at
times.
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It appeared to me that he
realizes
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that there's only a few hours
left.
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With the clock ticking, James
Coleman continued pleading
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the case in court, but what he
didn't know was at the exact
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same time, Ted Bundy was
pleading his case
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from death row.
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COLEMAN: We were still trying to
get the execution stopped.
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I went to Tallahassee to argue
in the Supreme Court,
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and when I got off the plane,
the headlines were
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that Ted Bundy had confessed to
12 murders, and I knew
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at that point that, you know, we
don't have a chance.
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MAN:
Bundy has confessed to murders
in Western states in the past
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few days in interviews with law
enforcement officials.
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I'm sure his whole strategy was
just to give us a little
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to nibble on, and that in hopes
we'd try and get a stay for him.
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I've been told that, you know,
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the parents of these girls are
fairly decent people.
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I don't know, and I really feel
for them because apparently
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they suffered some --
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an incredible tragedy
in their lives.
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The loss of a loved one is
probably the most extreme kind
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of loss you can suffer in this
life, and I say I feel as much
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for them as anybody can.
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Welcome back to
"How it Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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By 1989, Ted Bundy had been on
Florida death row for 10 years
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proclaiming his innocence while
his attorneys fought to overturn
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his murder convictions.
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His legal team had won three
stays of execution,
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but now Bundy's luck was running
out.
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As his date with the electric
chair approached, Bundy called
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investigators from across the
country offering to confess to
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some unsolved cases and finally
tell them how he really did it.
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He started to meet with the
police,
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and he was doing it in secret.
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My view was, if he wanted to
disclose where bodies
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were buried, then he should do
that and not place
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any conditions on it.
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I think that he saw a way to
possibly try to save his life.
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MAN: Bob Keppel worked at
getting a confession
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from Ted Bundy for years.
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I went down to Florida to
interview him
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on three separate occasions, and
we used the interviews
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in 1984 as a way for
him to talk about
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what he would do if he were the
killer.
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And then in '88, it was more
like getting him ready
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to talk to us again.
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MAN: When Keppel went to Florida
nearly one year ago,
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he was still playing Bundy's
game trying to get
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any information on
the Washington murders.
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KEPPEL: We'd already come to the
conclusion a long time ago
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that he was the one that did
them.
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The last interview with him was
the most telling.
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He was supposed to have had some
spiritual change.
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I'm very skeptical of that.
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I don't buy that at all, but to
all the investigators,
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he did give it up.
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KEPPEL: That was the first time,
that I know of,
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that he's admitted any murders
to anyone,
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and after hearing some of the
details of what he's done,
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I can understand why it's
difficult
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because they're not particularly
pleasant.
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MAN: Bundy, delivering details
about the murder
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of Georgann Hawkins --
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MAN: The night of June 10th,
18-year-old Georgann Hawkins
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left a fraternity to make this
walk just 90 feet
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down a well-lit alley back to
her sorority
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at the University of Washington.
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MAN: Bundy told Keppel he found
Hawkins walking
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in a U-district alley about
midnight.
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I asked him if he killed the two
girls
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at Lake Sammamish State Park,
and he said, "Yes."
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I asked him if he killed
Brenda Ball.
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He said, "Yes."
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WINTERS: And he said with Sue
that he rendered her unconscious
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and took her to an orchard.
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We know that much, but that's --
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we don't need to know what he
did.
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We have enough information to
know that it was pure evil.
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WOMAN: Ted Bundy was infamous as
an intelligent
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and handsome charmer, a highly
likable boy next door.
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KENDALL:
When I would think about our
day-to-day relationship,
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there was nothing there that
would lead me to think
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that he was capable of doing
something like that,
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and that's the split that I
think had everybody baffled.
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He confessed to my friend and
told her all the stuff outright.
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And then a day later, he calls
her back and said,
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"What you think you heard, you
didn't hear right."
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LLOYD: This man felt nothing.
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With all the people he'd done
in, with all the harm he'd done,
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he still felt nothing, so there
was nothing to say sorry for
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because he didn't feel sorry.
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MAN: Bundy lived in Washington
until late 1974
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building a promising career in
politics.
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At the same time he came to law
school in Salt Lake City,
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young ladies began to disappear
in Utah.
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I dealt with him a little bit
back in 1975
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when we had him on some charges
up in Salt Lake.
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I really will be surprised if he
does talk to us,
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but I am here just in the chance
that he might.
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Bundy admitted to the homicide
and kidnapping
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of the Kent girl from up in
Bountiful.
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MAN: Debbie was attending a play
with her family
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at Viewmont High School on the
night of November 8, 1974.
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She left the play early to pick
up her brother at an ice rink.
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SULLIVAN:
He said he dumped Debbie Kent's
body off at, I think,
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it's Fairview, Utah, and they
did find a patella, a portion,
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I guess, of the kneecap.
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They turned it over
to the Kent family.
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You know, as a mother, I don't
think until you lose a child
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you ever know the pain and the
hurt that it is.
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SULLIVAN:
He murdered these women.
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Sometimes he would rape them
before, but a lot of times
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he would like to have sex with
them after they were dead.
481
00:26:53,433 --> 00:26:55,433
So he was -- he was a
necrophile,
482
00:26:55,466 --> 00:26:57,146
but he never liked talking about
that.
483
00:27:06,066 --> 00:27:08,346
JORDAN: Ted Bundy not only
offered information on where
484
00:27:08,383 --> 00:27:12,003
investigators might find the
victims' remains, but he also
485
00:27:12,033 --> 00:27:15,083
offered clues as to why they had
trouble with certain kinds
486
00:27:15,116 --> 00:27:18,146
of evidence, such as the murder
weapons.
487
00:27:18,183 --> 00:27:21,223
Ted didn't leave much of a trail
behind.
488
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000
McCHESNEY:
In the end, it frustrated and
irritated and probably even
489
00:27:42,033 --> 00:27:44,453
angered many of the law
enforcement officials.
490
00:27:44,483 --> 00:27:47,423
At one point, it was,
"You're done."
491
00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:52,420
♪♪
492
00:27:52,450 --> 00:27:55,350
We started to prepare him for
the execution.
493
00:27:55,383 --> 00:27:59,303
REGISTER: He was, I think, quite
terrified when he came in.
494
00:27:59,333 --> 00:28:02,103
He was puckered.
495
00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:24,370
MAN: Ted Bundy may finally die
Tuesday morning
496
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,270
after over 10 years
on death row.
497
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,320
Ted Bundy reached out to
investigators in Colorado, Utah,
498
00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:34,430
and Washington State, offering
them information on those open,
499
00:28:34,466 --> 00:28:38,246
unsolved cases as a bargaining
chip trying
500
00:28:38,283 --> 00:28:40,123
to save his own life.
501
00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:42,070
Bundy confessed
to around 20 murders.
502
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,430
He was linked to dozens more.
503
00:28:43,466 --> 00:28:48,016
He confessed to killing people
they didn't even know were dead.
504
00:28:48,050 --> 00:28:52,250
He confessed to killing some
hitchhiker out West and told
505
00:28:52,283 --> 00:28:55,473
them where the body was buried,
and they called local law
506
00:28:56,016 --> 00:29:00,026
enforcement, and lo and behold,
there was a body there.
507
00:29:00,066 --> 00:29:04,166
He was coming clean, and he was
also very tired.
508
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,000
Ted was not the bold, defiant
individual
509
00:29:07,033 --> 00:29:09,203
that we have observed on TV.
510
00:29:09,233 --> 00:29:10,483
He was a defeated person.
511
00:29:11,016 --> 00:29:12,476
Approximately an hour into the
interview,
512
00:29:13,016 --> 00:29:17,226
he began to break down and cry,
and stated that he was sorry.
513
00:29:36,233 --> 00:29:40,103
But he also threatened to
withhold information.
514
00:29:40,133 --> 00:29:46,273
Bundy's attorneys were notifying
the parents
515
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:51,200
that if we could write a letter
to the governor and ask,
516
00:29:51,233 --> 00:29:55,233
like, for a stay, you know, of
execution,
517
00:29:55,266 --> 00:29:59,426
he would tell everything,
and I remember thinking,
518
00:29:59,466 --> 00:30:03,146
"If I do write to the governor,
519
00:30:03,183 --> 00:30:06,333
Bundy might lie
about everything."
520
00:30:06,366 --> 00:30:08,476
For him to be negotiating for
his life
521
00:30:09,016 --> 00:30:12,476
over the bodies of victims is
despicable.
522
00:30:13,016 --> 00:30:16,246
McCHESNEY:
The risk of that sort of a
bargain with the devil,
523
00:30:16,283 --> 00:30:18,483
if you will, is that they're
going
524
00:30:19,016 --> 00:30:20,266
to give you false information.
525
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:22,100
They're going to send you on
tangents.
526
00:30:22,133 --> 00:30:25,353
They're going to just mislead
you in 100 ways,
527
00:30:25,383 --> 00:30:30,483
only so that they can benefit by
postponing the inevitable,
528
00:30:31,016 --> 00:30:33,326
in his case,
which was execution.
529
00:30:33,366 --> 00:30:35,366
SULLIVAN: He was hoping that it
would create more time,
530
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,430
in Bundy's mind, three months,
six months.
531
00:30:37,466 --> 00:30:41,276
He just wanted to hold on to his
life.
532
00:30:41,316 --> 00:30:44,346
KATSARIS: That's all he had left
was to bargain.
533
00:30:44,383 --> 00:30:48,023
He tried to blame it on
pornography, for example.
534
00:30:48,050 --> 00:30:50,170
MAN: California religious
broadcaster and psychologist
535
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Dr. James Dobson interviewed
Bundy Monday afternoon.
536
00:30:54,150 --> 00:30:57,130
You were with Ted Bundy before
he was electrocuted
537
00:30:57,166 --> 00:30:58,296
by the state of Florida, were
you not?
538
00:30:58,333 --> 00:30:59,423
I was.
539
00:30:59,450 --> 00:31:01,000
He wanted me to get -- have the
last interview --
540
00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:02,223
KING: What was that like?
541
00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:07,000
-- and he wanted to confess and
explain why he felt he got
542
00:31:07,033 --> 00:31:10,373
into trouble, and he wanted to
talk about pornography, and what
543
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,400
it had done in his life.
544
00:31:12,433 --> 00:31:14,473
BUNDY: Like an addiction, you
keep craving something,
545
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,030
which is harder, harder,
something which gives you
546
00:31:19,066 --> 00:31:23,376
a greater sense of
excitement,
547
00:31:23,416 --> 00:31:25,346
until you reach the point where
the pornography
548
00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:28,283
only goes so far.
549
00:31:28,316 --> 00:31:30,246
SULLIVAN: Pornography does a lot
of negative things, especially
550
00:31:30,283 --> 00:31:33,233
to relationships and marriages,
but one thing it doesn't do;
551
00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:36,016
it does not cause people to
slaughter women
552
00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:39,470
and cut off their heads.
553
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:46,130
Bundy is just trying to pass the
blame on why he's the way he is.
554
00:31:46,166 --> 00:31:47,366
THOMPSON: It was not going to
make a bit of difference.
555
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:53,030
Once you do confess to all those
things, then it's hard to say,
556
00:31:53,066 --> 00:31:55,176
you know,
"Florida, don't do this."
557
00:31:55,216 --> 00:32:00,046
On January 24, at 7:00 A.M., the
death warrant will be in effect.
558
00:32:00,083 --> 00:32:01,453
You don't negotiate with a
murderer.
559
00:32:01,483 --> 00:32:08,153
♪♪
560
00:32:08,183 --> 00:32:10,073
Attorney General called and
said,
561
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,080
"It's going to happen this
time."
562
00:32:12,116 --> 00:32:14,466
Execution is, you know, going to
happen.
563
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,330
MAN:
Ted Bundy sits in this wing of
the Florida state prison 30 feet
564
00:32:18,366 --> 00:32:21,176
from the electric chair where
he's scheduled to die.
565
00:32:21,216 --> 00:32:24,996
I had worked a long, hard time
seeing to it
566
00:32:25,033 --> 00:32:28,083
that he got executed and seeing
it through to the end was
567
00:32:28,116 --> 00:32:30,146
attending his execution.
568
00:32:30,183 --> 00:32:33,383
MAN: Mike Vasilinda --
569
00:32:33,416 --> 00:32:37,316
We were supposed to be at the
prison at 4:00 or 4:30.
570
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:40,070
The van picked us up.
They took us over.
571
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,280
We were taken to the execution
chamber.
572
00:32:42,316 --> 00:32:44,416
REGISTER: But for a glass wall,
we could have reached out
573
00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:46,000
and touched him on the knee.
574
00:32:46,033 --> 00:32:51,023
He was that close, and, you
know, he was,
575
00:32:51,050 --> 00:32:53,450
I think, quite terrified when he
came in.
576
00:32:53,483 --> 00:32:55,373
He was puckered.
577
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,200
COLEMAN: They sat him down in
the chair, and they started
578
00:32:58,233 --> 00:33:00,283
to prepare him for the
execution.
579
00:33:00,316 --> 00:33:04,266
He looked more disoriented than
defiant.
580
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:08,170
He asked me and the minister to
tell his family
581
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,000
that he loved them.
582
00:33:10,033 --> 00:33:12,253
MAN: The beginning of the end
for Ted Bundy came
583
00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,373
when the prison's generator was
started
584
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,380
to power the electric chair's
2,000 volts.
585
00:33:18,416 --> 00:33:20,396
Lights outside death row
flickered,
586
00:33:20,433 --> 00:33:23,023
and Bundy's life winked out.
587
00:33:23,050 --> 00:33:27,080
Tell you what I heard said when
the execution was accomplished,
588
00:33:27,116 --> 00:33:28,476
"That was too easy.
589
00:33:29,016 --> 00:33:32,276
They ought to bring him back and
do it again 30 more times.
590
00:33:32,316 --> 00:33:35,296
That was too easy for what he
had done."
591
00:33:35,333 --> 00:33:38,273
We got a call saying that, you
know, it was over,
592
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:40,480
that he had been electrocuted,
593
00:33:41,016 --> 00:33:44,366
and we knew before everyone on
television.
594
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,100
At 7:16 this morning, the doctor
at Florida state prison
595
00:33:48,133 --> 00:33:50,153
pronounced Theodore Bundy dead.
596
00:33:50,183 --> 00:33:52,473
I cried, just wailed, and I
think it was
597
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,150
for Lisa and Margaret more than
for me.
598
00:33:56,183 --> 00:33:58,083
McCAIN: You never, you know, get
over that pain.
599
00:33:58,116 --> 00:34:01,196
You never get -- healing is a
huge process, and a part
600
00:34:01,233 --> 00:34:04,133
of your heart is always broken,
but yes,
601
00:34:04,166 --> 00:34:08,016
I think there was a sense that,
you know, justice had been done.
602
00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:10,420
Ted has gotten just exactly what
he deserved.
603
00:34:10,450 --> 00:34:13,380
If anybody ever fit the death
penalty as such, Ted Bundy did.
604
00:34:13,416 --> 00:34:16,996
MAN: Then a hearse carrying a
metal pauper's coffin
605
00:34:17,033 --> 00:34:19,433
with Bundy's body inside left
the prison.
606
00:34:19,466 --> 00:34:22,466
I was awake until they drove him
out.
607
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,130
I just -- I started to cry and
my nose,
608
00:34:25,166 --> 00:34:28,076
it was just like my -- I was
relieved in such a sense
609
00:34:28,116 --> 00:34:31,176
that I could relax now after all
these years.
610
00:34:31,216 --> 00:34:34,046
And on the -- across the street
from the prison
611
00:34:34,083 --> 00:34:38,123
on the right, cheers went up and
people were celebrating.
612
00:34:38,150 --> 00:34:42,130
♪ Hey, hey, hey, good-bye ♪
Yeah!
613
00:34:42,166 --> 00:34:45,996
COLEMAN: People were cheering
for the execution of a person
614
00:34:46,033 --> 00:34:50,353
who had been denied the rights
that our system guarantees,
615
00:34:50,383 --> 00:34:52,083
and nobody cared.
616
00:34:52,116 --> 00:34:54,266
WINTERS: That was such a hard
thing for us.
617
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:58,020
So hard for us to say, you know,
"You need to die,"
618
00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:00,220
but he had to be stopped.
We knew that.
619
00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:04,470
I think if he wouldn't have been
stopped, he'd have kept killing.
620
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,050
The morning after the execution,
a Seattle television station
621
00:35:10,083 --> 00:35:13,133
came and we did the interview,
and towards
622
00:35:13,166 --> 00:35:18,426
the end, she said, "I have
Mrs. Bundy listening to you.
623
00:35:18,466 --> 00:35:22,116
Is there anything you want to
say to her?"
624
00:35:25,483 --> 00:35:27,453
WOMAN: In a quiet corner
of the Lake City cemetery
625
00:35:27,483 --> 00:35:31,053
lies a shy, sweet,
12-year-old girl.
626
00:35:31,083 --> 00:35:34,373
Kim Leach was abducted from her
school here almost 11 years ago.
627
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,480
After Ted Bundy there was a
realization that no matter where
628
00:35:39,016 --> 00:35:44,446
you live or who you are, you
know, you can be a victim.
629
00:35:44,483 --> 00:35:47,183
MAN: Bundy had beaten the
electric chair for 10 years
630
00:35:47,216 --> 00:35:49,476
on death row until Tuesday.
631
00:35:50,016 --> 00:35:54,026
Theodore Bundy was executed at
7:16 this morning
632
00:35:54,066 --> 00:35:55,366
in the electric chair at Florida
state prison.
633
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:01,030
When Ted Bundy got executed, I,
as well as many others,
634
00:36:01,066 --> 00:36:03,126
thought, "Hooray."
635
00:36:03,166 --> 00:36:04,326
He got what he deserved.
636
00:36:04,366 --> 00:36:07,996
The fact that he could kill
these innocent young women
637
00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:13,173
just sees so far beyond even
one's imagination.
638
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,150
GOOD: I think he got the justice
that he deserved.
639
00:36:16,183 --> 00:36:19,373
Not that I'm advocating for the
death penalty, but there didn't
640
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,300
seem to be any alternative for
someone who had done such
641
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,133
horrific things to so many
people
642
00:36:25,166 --> 00:36:27,196
and especially to my friend.
643
00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:30,253
A federal judge called Bundy the
most competent serial killer
644
00:36:30,283 --> 00:36:34,433
in the country; a diabolical
genius, a life of brutality,
645
00:36:34,466 --> 00:36:37,346
murder and deceit, a life that
ended this morning
646
00:36:37,383 --> 00:36:42,173
as an unsolved mystery.
647
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,220
The morning after the execution,
a Seattle television station
648
00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:51,370
came and we did the interview,
and towards the end,
649
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,020
she said, "I have Mrs. Bundy
listening to you.
650
00:36:56,050 --> 00:36:58,270
Is there anything you want to
say to her?"
651
00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:03,300
And I told her that we were so
sorry that this had to happen,
652
00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:09,233
and she talked back to me that I
never wanted this to be true.
653
00:37:09,266 --> 00:37:12,016
I just never thought it would be
true.
654
00:37:12,050 --> 00:37:17,070
He was our much-beloved son, and
we can't --
655
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:20,000
we didn't raise him to be this
kind of person.
656
00:37:20,033 --> 00:37:23,403
She was hurting.
Oh, my goodness.
657
00:37:23,433 --> 00:37:30,223
I had a daughter like Sue, and I
have all those golden memories,
658
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:32,000
and what did she have?
659
00:37:32,033 --> 00:37:34,433
What did she take to her grave?
660
00:37:34,466 --> 00:37:41,416
Shame and disappointment, guilt,
heartache.
661
00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:45,420
MAN: We all share in the shame
of Ted Bundy -- Tacoma,
662
00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:49,450
the University district, the
east side of Lake Sammamish
663
00:37:49,483 --> 00:37:53,403
where he conducted a couple of
the murders,
664
00:37:53,433 --> 00:37:59,333
Olympia, Ellensburg, Utah,
Colorado, Florida.
665
00:37:59,366 --> 00:38:01,066
I think there was a
determination
666
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:05,200
to not be a victim, to not let
an individual try to strip you
667
00:38:05,233 --> 00:38:07,233
of that kind of future.
668
00:38:07,266 --> 00:38:13,076
I try not to ever let it define
me, but it's still a part of me.
669
00:38:13,116 --> 00:38:14,266
There was nothing that he did
670
00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:18,020
that was going to stop any part
of my life.
671
00:38:18,050 --> 00:38:21,250
I had too much to go for, too
many things I wanted to do.
672
00:38:21,283 --> 00:38:23,223
I didn't want to be held back.
673
00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:25,220
You just got to keep going
because there's going
674
00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:27,400
to be another hurdle in front of
you and you can't let
675
00:38:27,433 --> 00:38:31,073
any one of them keep you down.
676
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:35,230
Your best revenge is a life well
lived, so go for it.
677
00:38:35,266 --> 00:38:40,226
Be your best self and make your
life wonderful.
678
00:38:40,266 --> 00:38:44,446
I just want to be sure the women
are not forgotten that did die.
679
00:38:44,483 --> 00:38:50,203
It's sad that they never had the
opportunity to live their lives.
680
00:38:50,233 --> 00:38:52,483
My sister Sue, people knew her
681
00:38:53,016 --> 00:39:00,326
when she was alive and pretty
and healthy,
682
00:39:00,366 --> 00:39:08,346
and that's what I want her to be
remembered as.
683
00:39:08,383 --> 00:39:12,233
You don't ever put those you
love out of your heart
684
00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:13,466
and your mind.
685
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,030
They're there.
686
00:39:16,066 --> 00:39:21,066
I don't believe in the word
"closure" for victims' families.
687
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:23,020
There isn't any closure.
688
00:39:23,050 --> 00:39:28,380
It's an open wound that scars
over, but it's there,
689
00:39:28,416 --> 00:39:31,396
and she'll always be in our
life.
690
00:39:35,233 --> 00:39:38,433
Bundy took one final mystery to
the grave with him;
691
00:39:38,466 --> 00:39:43,016
why he became one of history's
worst mass killers.
692
00:39:43,050 --> 00:39:46,130
What shocked Tallahassee, what
shocked Florida,
693
00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:50,166
what shocked the nation, was the
boy next door was a monster,
694
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,430
and nobody knew it.
695
00:39:52,466 --> 00:39:55,326
He told me that he was sick,
that there was a force
696
00:39:55,366 --> 00:39:59,266
within him that he tried to
fight and tried to contain,
697
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:01,200
but that it just kept building
and building,
698
00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:03,433
and it made him do the things
that he did.
699
00:40:03,466 --> 00:40:06,346
I'm not sure exactly how many he
actually confessed to.
700
00:40:06,383 --> 00:40:09,473
The FBI has figured around 35.
701
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,430
There is some hint that there
might have been a lot more.
702
00:40:14,466 --> 00:40:19,166
To him, it's a big
hunt-and-chase game,
703
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:27,050
and the fear and the terror is
overwhelmingly exciting.
704
00:40:27,083 --> 00:40:30,023
THOMPSON: I guess it's a Dr.
Jekyll and Mr. Hyde;
705
00:40:30,050 --> 00:40:32,420
that notion has been around for
a long time.
706
00:40:32,450 --> 00:40:38,170
You have a person who on one
moment appears to be
707
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,370
an affable, decent, intelligent
fellow that you like
708
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,030
to spend time with, and the next
moment, he's, you know,
709
00:40:46,066 --> 00:40:51,096
severing some woman's head
and visiting her dead body.
710
00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:55,333
And how do you put those things
together?
711
00:40:55,366 --> 00:40:58,276
BUNDY: I hear Ted Bundy in so
many different contexts.
712
00:40:58,316 --> 00:41:03,016
You did create
a media image of me
713
00:41:03,050 --> 00:41:07,470
that's far beyond the reality of
me.
714
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,300
I'm not going to try to please
people or impress people,
715
00:41:10,333 --> 00:41:14,373
because, quite frankly, the
amount of bias and prejudice
716
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that surrounds me as a media
image,
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I can't begin to tear down.
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♪♪
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After admitting to 36 murders,
Ted Bundy's reign of terror
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ended with his execution was on
January 24, 1989.
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00:41:32,416 --> 00:41:35,266
His heartbroken mother, Louise,
lived for another 22 years.
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00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:37,220
She passed away in 2012.
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The identity of Ted's biological
father has never been revealed.
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The Chi Omega sorority has
created a scholarship fund
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in the name of fallen sisters,
Margaret Bowman and Lisa Levy.
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00:41:48,066 --> 00:41:50,176
Susan Rancourt's mother, Vivian
said her daughter
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00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:53,146
was always smiling and kind to
everyone.
728
00:41:53,183 --> 00:41:56,153
Susan's family has dedicated a
memorial garden in her name
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00:41:56,183 --> 00:41:58,473
at Central Washington
University.
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I'm Hill Harper.
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Thanks for watching.
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