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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,233 --> 00:00:06,023 ♪♪ 2 00:00:06,050 --> 00:00:11,380 I'm satisfied with my blanket statement that I'm innocent. 3 00:00:11,416 --> 00:00:14,196 No man is truly innocent. 4 00:00:14,233 --> 00:00:18,053 I mean, we all have transgressed in some way in our lives, and as 5 00:00:18,083 --> 00:00:22,473 I say, I've been impolite and there are things I 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,300 regret having done in my life, 7 00:00:25,333 --> 00:00:31,083 but nothing like the things I think the jury are referring to. 8 00:00:31,116 --> 00:00:38,146 ♪♪ 9 00:00:38,183 --> 00:00:45,203 ♪♪ 10 00:00:45,233 --> 00:00:47,033 Welcome to "How It Really Happened." 11 00:00:47,066 --> 00:00:48,296 I'm Hill Harper. 12 00:00:48,333 --> 00:00:51,323 In 1980, the name Ted Bundy was one of the most recognized 13 00:00:51,350 --> 00:00:54,400 in America, but for all the wrong reasons. 14 00:00:54,433 --> 00:00:57,033 The charismatic former law student was facing 15 00:00:57,066 --> 00:00:58,376 the electric chair for the brutal murders 16 00:00:58,416 --> 00:01:02,026 of two sorority sisters and a 12-year-old girl in Florida. 17 00:01:02,066 --> 00:01:04,416 Bundy was also suspected in dozens of additional murders 18 00:01:04,450 --> 00:01:08,330 across the country, but always maintained his innocence. 19 00:01:08,366 --> 00:01:11,196 Now in a fight to save his own life, 20 00:01:11,233 --> 00:01:14,353 Bundy launched a series of appeals from death row. 21 00:01:14,383 --> 00:01:16,183 Would it work? 22 00:01:16,216 --> 00:01:18,316 Here's how it really happened. 23 00:01:18,350 --> 00:01:22,050 ♪♪ 24 00:01:22,083 --> 00:01:25,203 WOMAN: A wave of fear swept all across the state of Washington 25 00:01:25,233 --> 00:01:28,273 from January to July of 1974 26 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:32,050 when someone was abducting young women. 27 00:01:32,083 --> 00:01:34,473 Witnesses told of a smooth-talking, good-looking 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,130 young man named Ted, who'd been seen talking with them. 29 00:01:38,166 --> 00:01:42,216 Police released a composite drawing and description of Ted. 30 00:01:42,250 --> 00:01:46,130 The newspaper put the composite out and my friend threw 31 00:01:46,166 --> 00:01:49,416 the picture on the table, the composite, and she said 32 00:01:49,450 --> 00:01:50,420 to me, "Who do you think that is?" 33 00:01:50,450 --> 00:01:52,050 I said, "Well, it's Ted. Why?" 34 00:01:52,083 --> 00:01:53,423 And then she burst into tears 35 00:01:53,450 --> 00:01:57,070 because that looked a lot like her boyfriend, Ted Bundy. 36 00:01:57,100 --> 00:02:00,250 A lot like him. 37 00:02:00,283 --> 00:02:02,033 There was nothing that would lead me to think 38 00:02:02,066 --> 00:02:04,066 that he was a violent man. 39 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:08,300 Ted was born in a home for unwed mothers in Vermont in 1946. 40 00:02:08,333 --> 00:02:12,123 Bundy's mother, she was a single mother. 41 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:18,420 Ted, being the oldest and you might say my pride and joy, 42 00:02:18,450 --> 00:02:21,030 our relationship was always very special. 43 00:02:21,066 --> 00:02:23,296 A very normal active boy. 44 00:02:23,333 --> 00:02:28,033 He did all the things that most boys like to do. 45 00:02:28,066 --> 00:02:30,026 MAN: Theodore Robert Bundy at age 25, 46 00:02:30,066 --> 00:02:32,216 a Republican campaign worker in Seattle; 47 00:02:32,250 --> 00:02:34,430 at 28, a University of Utah law student. 48 00:02:34,466 --> 00:02:38,216 SULLIVAN: Bundy was someone who was surging ahead in life, 49 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:40,250 seemed to have a lot going for him. 50 00:02:40,283 --> 00:02:41,483 His friends would even say, 51 00:02:42,016 --> 00:02:44,076 "Now, there's somebody that's going to make a mark in life." 52 00:02:44,116 --> 00:02:45,426 They were right about that, 53 00:02:45,466 --> 00:02:48,446 but not in the way that they thought. 54 00:02:48,483 --> 00:02:53,003 MAN: Theodore Bundy was convicted of murder in the 1978 killings 55 00:02:53,033 --> 00:02:55,433 of two sorority sisters and a 12-year-old girl. 56 00:02:55,466 --> 00:02:59,046 The FBI says he is a suspect in the sex-related murders 57 00:02:59,083 --> 00:03:02,483 or disappearance of more than 30 other women in four states 58 00:03:03,016 --> 00:03:06,426 between 1974 and 1978. 59 00:03:06,466 --> 00:03:08,226 People have said he was evil. 60 00:03:08,266 --> 00:03:12,046 I think he was just a savage, feral, wild monster 61 00:03:12,083 --> 00:03:16,273 that that was loose on humankind. 62 00:03:16,300 --> 00:03:19,370 MAN: Lynda Ann Healy, 19-year-old Donna Manson, 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,430 Kathy Parks, 22-year-old Brenda Ball, 64 00:03:22,466 --> 00:03:25,416 18-year-old Georgann Hawkins, Janice Ott, 65 00:03:25,450 --> 00:03:28,230 18-year-old Denise Naslund, Susan Rancourt. 66 00:03:28,266 --> 00:03:31,466 She had gone cross campus to a meeting, 67 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 and she never came back. 68 00:03:35,033 --> 00:03:38,173 SULLIVAN: He was very big on using the ruse of a helpless person 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,170 and Bundy depended on good, kind women 70 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,120 with good hearts helping him. 71 00:03:44,150 --> 00:03:47,450 This guy came up and asked me to help him 72 00:03:47,483 --> 00:03:50,103 put his sailboat onto his car. 73 00:03:50,133 --> 00:03:51,333 PACKER: He looks clean cut. 74 00:03:51,366 --> 00:03:54,176 You're only going to help for two or three minutes and then, 75 00:03:54,216 --> 00:03:58,066 bam, you're in the car, and a couple hours later, you're dead. 76 00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:01,130 ♪♪ 77 00:04:01,166 --> 00:04:06,416 It really hit me like a ton of bricks because I knew 78 00:04:06,450 --> 00:04:12,000 if I had made that wrong decision, it could have been me. 79 00:04:12,033 --> 00:04:15,053 MAN: Young ladies began to disappear in Utah. 80 00:04:15,083 --> 00:04:17,373 More disappearances, this time in Colorado. 81 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,450 SULLIVAN: He was smart. 82 00:04:18,483 --> 00:04:21,003 He really was, and he did everything he could 83 00:04:21,033 --> 00:04:25,133 to gain advantage over people and situations. 84 00:04:25,166 --> 00:04:27,426 MAN: Prosecutors convicted Bundy not of murder, 85 00:04:27,466 --> 00:04:30,316 but of attempted kidnapping and sent him to prison. 86 00:04:30,350 --> 00:04:34,050 He managed to escape from jail twice. 87 00:04:34,083 --> 00:04:37,483 MAN: Bundy, who had been awaiting trial for the January 12, 1975, 88 00:04:38,016 --> 00:04:41,426 murder of a Michigan nurse near Aspen, Colorado, escaped 89 00:04:41,466 --> 00:04:45,246 from a Colorado jail on December 31, 1977. 90 00:04:45,283 --> 00:04:49,303 He's got $700 with him, that's a lot of money back then, 91 00:04:49,333 --> 00:04:51,173 caught a flight to Chicago. 92 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,470 From Chicago, he took a train to Ann Arbor, 93 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,180 went through Nashville, went down to Atlanta, 94 00:04:56,216 --> 00:04:58,376 took a Trailways bus to Tallahassee, 95 00:04:58,416 --> 00:05:01,426 and the circus began in Florida. 96 00:05:01,466 --> 00:05:04,116 MAN: Two Florida state sorority sisters were strangled to death 97 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:06,100 and three others brutally beaten with a club 98 00:05:06,133 --> 00:05:09,223 the morning of January 15, 1978. 99 00:05:09,250 --> 00:05:12,420 Bundy had entered through an unlocked door on the first floor 100 00:05:12,450 --> 00:05:17,380 of the Chi Omega sorority house, had gone up the back stairs. 101 00:05:17,416 --> 00:05:22,116 I woke up to being attacked. 102 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:24,030 There was blood everywhere. 103 00:05:24,066 --> 00:05:27,446 The next thing I remember, I was in the hospital. 104 00:05:27,483 --> 00:05:32,103 We were just so overwhelmed with grief. 105 00:05:32,133 --> 00:05:36,273 Complete and utter shock, we -- we still don't believe it. 106 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:38,150 It just can't be. 107 00:05:38,183 --> 00:05:39,373 MAN: This is no ordinary murder trial. 108 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,100 The case of Ted Bundy, a man suspected of murdering 109 00:05:42,133 --> 00:05:44,323 two Florida state coeds and beating three others 110 00:05:44,350 --> 00:05:46,380 a year and half ago, has caught the attention 111 00:05:46,416 --> 00:05:48,126 of the national press. 112 00:05:48,166 --> 00:05:50,366 During a court recess the defendant, Theodore Bundy, 113 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,320 who was partially acting as his own attorney, 114 00:05:52,350 --> 00:05:54,180 examined some of the evidence. 115 00:05:54,216 --> 00:05:58,126 Now he got to be his own lawyer in the most celebrated 116 00:05:58,166 --> 00:06:00,396 and widely watched trial in Florida history. 117 00:06:00,433 --> 00:06:02,033 He strutted and preened 118 00:06:02,066 --> 00:06:05,096 and he loved to cross-examine witnesses. 119 00:06:05,133 --> 00:06:09,473 BUNDY: Before I forget to ask the $64,000 question, 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,220 "Did you have a search warrant to search my car?" 121 00:06:11,250 --> 00:06:12,420 No, sir. 122 00:06:12,450 --> 00:06:14,430 Putting yourself in position of being your own counsel, 123 00:06:14,466 --> 00:06:16,246 you're going to do it because the person you're representing 124 00:06:16,283 --> 00:06:17,473 is innocent. 125 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,030 WOMAN: Bundy said he was hopeful and optimistic jurors 126 00:06:20,066 --> 00:06:21,476 would see things his way. 127 00:06:22,016 --> 00:06:23,126 They did not. 128 00:06:23,166 --> 00:06:26,076 This court is hereby imposing the death penalty 129 00:06:26,116 --> 00:06:28,996 upon the defendant, Theodore Robert Bundy. 130 00:06:29,033 --> 00:06:30,233 BUNDY: I don't even like to think of that day. 131 00:06:30,266 --> 00:06:31,296 I heard my mother crying. 132 00:06:31,333 --> 00:06:35,083 It's just impossible. It's wrong. 133 00:06:35,116 --> 00:06:38,316 When we was sentenced to death, my gut feeling was 134 00:06:38,350 --> 00:06:41,320 he'll never hurt anyone ever again. 135 00:06:41,350 --> 00:06:44,070 I don't think it will be over really for any of us 136 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:46,230 until they finally execute him. 137 00:06:46,266 --> 00:06:48,266 I think I stand about as much chance of dying in front 138 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:51,000 of a firing squad or in a gas chamber as you do being killed 139 00:06:51,033 --> 00:06:58,033 in a plane flight home because it's not going to happen. 140 00:06:58,066 --> 00:07:00,326 MAN: Ted Bundy sits on Florida's death row convicted 141 00:07:00,366 --> 00:07:01,426 of the brutal murders 142 00:07:01,466 --> 00:07:04,276 of two Florida State University sorority sisters 143 00:07:04,316 --> 00:07:08,396 and a 12-year-old Lake City girl. 144 00:07:08,433 --> 00:07:13,133 JORDAN: After being given the death penalty twice, Ted Bundy became 145 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:16,116 a resident of death row, and then, of course, 146 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:18,370 he started his appeals process. 147 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,320 When the death warrant, the first one, was signed 148 00:07:22,350 --> 00:07:25,200 for Ted Bundy, he had a petition pending 149 00:07:25,233 --> 00:07:28,153 in the Supreme Court, but the Supreme Court doesn't like 150 00:07:28,183 --> 00:07:31,073 to deal with clients who represent themselves, 151 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:32,380 so I agreed to do it. 152 00:07:32,416 --> 00:07:35,066 Mr. Bundy was denied a fair trial. 153 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:37,430 JORDAN: He argued that he had been denied his right 154 00:07:37,466 --> 00:07:41,416 to a fair trial because of, all things, ineffective counsel. 155 00:07:41,450 --> 00:07:45,030 The irony of that, of course, is that Ted Bundy acted 156 00:07:45,066 --> 00:07:46,466 as his own counsel. 157 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,230 I mean, there must have been a kind of theatrical thrill 158 00:07:50,266 --> 00:07:52,426 for him getting to play lawyer after washing out 159 00:07:52,466 --> 00:07:54,096 as a law student. 160 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:04,420 He was playing lawyer, and he wasn't aware 161 00:08:04,450 --> 00:08:06,430 of what the consequences were going to be. 162 00:08:06,466 --> 00:08:09,096 Just let go of me. 163 00:08:09,133 --> 00:08:11,483 Mr. Bundy spent a good deal of his time 164 00:08:12,016 --> 00:08:14,146 essentially intoxicated. 165 00:08:14,183 --> 00:08:16,253 MAN: The alcohol was found in the cans of V8 juice. 166 00:08:16,283 --> 00:08:18,433 What? 167 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:25,100 CHINO: Ted was a handsome guy. 168 00:08:25,133 --> 00:08:28,053 I kind of found it interesting to watch him litigate. 169 00:08:28,083 --> 00:08:29,453 It was Ted, typical Ted. 170 00:08:29,483 --> 00:08:32,183 The -- his movements, the way he looked. 171 00:08:32,216 --> 00:08:33,326 He always would look, sort of, 172 00:08:33,366 --> 00:08:35,226 like this when he was in the thing. 173 00:08:35,266 --> 00:08:36,446 It was Ted, you know. 174 00:08:36,483 --> 00:08:38,423 The Ted I knew, anyway. 175 00:08:38,450 --> 00:08:40,480 I just think that he was egotistical 176 00:08:41,016 --> 00:08:43,126 and didn't want to be wrong about anything. 177 00:08:43,166 --> 00:08:47,096 BAILIFF: Please be seated. Court will come to order. 178 00:08:47,133 --> 00:08:49,433 He just felt like no attorney was as good as he was. 179 00:08:49,466 --> 00:08:53,046 MAN: Bundy employed as many as 14 defense attorneys, 180 00:08:53,083 --> 00:08:55,433 and even represented himself at times. 181 00:08:55,466 --> 00:08:59,066 His attorneys now say that representation was ineffective 182 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:01,430 and are asking for a new trial. 183 00:09:01,466 --> 00:09:04,176 The ineffective counsel claim was rejected 184 00:09:04,216 --> 00:09:07,396 by the higher courts, so Ted's lawyers brought a claim 185 00:09:07,433 --> 00:09:10,153 of mental incompetence. 186 00:09:10,183 --> 00:09:12,133 I'm not going through this, and you knew that, Your Honor. 187 00:09:12,166 --> 00:09:13,166 JUDGE: Sit down. 188 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,330 You know how far you could push me. 189 00:09:14,366 --> 00:09:17,346 MAN: His lawyers claim Bundy is mentally incompetent 190 00:09:17,383 --> 00:09:20,423 and therefore, cannot be executed under Florida law. 191 00:09:20,450 --> 00:09:23,320 And this was something that Ted Bundy had absolutely fought 192 00:09:23,350 --> 00:09:26,000 against and rejected in his first two trials. 193 00:09:26,033 --> 00:09:30,133 Because Bundy had an ego and had had some legal training, 194 00:09:30,166 --> 00:09:32,476 he would not allow his defense attorneys to do that. 195 00:09:33,016 --> 00:09:35,276 But now that his life was on the line, 196 00:09:35,316 --> 00:09:37,166 he was willing to offer it. 197 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,270 COLEMAN: In fact, he didn't object, he didn't argue against it 198 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:45,130 because I think at that point, he realized that, you know, 199 00:09:45,166 --> 00:09:48,216 now you can actually get executed, so, you know, 200 00:09:48,250 --> 00:09:50,170 you got to decide, do you want to live 201 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,380 or do you want to be the star of your reality program. 202 00:09:59,483 --> 00:10:02,423 Ted Bundy's behavior had become increasingly bizarre 203 00:10:02,450 --> 00:10:05,020 in the Kimberly Leach trial. 204 00:10:05,050 --> 00:10:07,150 Mr. Bundy spent a good deal of his time, 205 00:10:07,183 --> 00:10:10,053 essentially intoxicated. 206 00:10:10,083 --> 00:10:12,253 The alcohol was found in the cans of V8 juice, 207 00:10:12,283 --> 00:10:15,333 resealable 16-ounce cans of V8 juice. 208 00:10:15,366 --> 00:10:19,246 There were several, small containers we found out later 209 00:10:19,283 --> 00:10:21,103 were mixed with vodka. 210 00:10:21,133 --> 00:10:24,073 I'll be darned. I didn't know that. 211 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:26,050 During the death penalty phase of our trial, 212 00:10:26,083 --> 00:10:28,403 Bundy actually did closing argument with the jury. 213 00:10:28,433 --> 00:10:30,453 Ted decided to take the lead role in trying 214 00:10:30,483 --> 00:10:34,033 to convince the jury to spare his life. 215 00:10:34,066 --> 00:10:36,146 And so there's this great photograph, 216 00:10:36,183 --> 00:10:39,273 and I have a copy of the paper from the Orlando Sentinel 217 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:41,380 with Bundy talking to the jury. 218 00:10:41,416 --> 00:10:44,176 DEKLE: As he stood there with his bowtie 219 00:10:44,216 --> 00:10:46,376 and he spread his arms out like this, 220 00:10:46,416 --> 00:10:49,346 and he compared himself to Jesus Christ. 221 00:10:49,383 --> 00:10:52,303 JORDAN: The most baffling moment was when Ted questioned 222 00:10:52,333 --> 00:10:57,003 Carole Boone, and he called her as a character witness. 223 00:10:57,033 --> 00:10:59,303 MAN: Carole Boone says she first met Ted Bundy five years ago 224 00:10:59,333 --> 00:11:02,183 when they worked in the same office in Seattle, Washington. 225 00:11:02,216 --> 00:11:04,146 Some have called her his girlfriend. 226 00:11:04,183 --> 00:11:05,323 Let me put it this way. 227 00:11:05,350 --> 00:11:09,080 I don't think that Ted belongs in jail. 228 00:11:09,116 --> 00:11:12,116 THOMPSON: She was in contact with Ted daily. 229 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:16,000 He would give her instructions for the defense team 230 00:11:16,033 --> 00:11:18,283 and we were to carry out his instructions. 231 00:11:18,316 --> 00:11:21,166 She was quite forceful in making us do these things 232 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,470 that Ted wanted done. 233 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,280 She cooked up an idea that he would call her as a witness 234 00:11:25,316 --> 00:11:28,016 in the penalty phase of the trial. 235 00:11:28,050 --> 00:11:31,200 He used the penalty phase of the trial, when the jury is 236 00:11:31,233 --> 00:11:33,323 considering whether he should be sentenced to death, 237 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:36,070 to get married. 238 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:39,000 Very well thought-out plan. 239 00:11:39,033 --> 00:11:41,023 They had the blood test. They had the marriage license. 240 00:11:41,050 --> 00:11:44,330 Somewhere, they recruited a notary public to come sit 241 00:11:44,366 --> 00:11:46,396 in the audience and wait for Bundy 242 00:11:46,433 --> 00:11:50,203 to pronounce him and Carole Boone man and wife. 243 00:11:50,233 --> 00:11:51,403 I think it was pragmatic. 244 00:11:51,433 --> 00:11:54,153 They needed to have a court proceeding and so this was going 245 00:11:54,183 --> 00:11:56,253 to be a legally binding marriage, and the only way they 246 00:11:56,283 --> 00:11:58,173 could do it was in the courtroom. 247 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,350 MAN: And he asked her, you know, "Do you love me?" 248 00:12:01,383 --> 00:12:03,353 And she said, "Oh, yes. I do." 249 00:12:03,383 --> 00:12:05,103 And he said, "I love you." 250 00:12:05,133 --> 00:12:07,123 And we just, you know, were hanging on each question. 251 00:12:17,433 --> 00:12:19,083 MAN: He said, "Will you marry me?" 252 00:12:19,116 --> 00:12:20,416 And she said, "Yes, I will." 253 00:12:20,450 --> 00:12:23,080 I hereby marry you, and we're going, "What?" 254 00:12:23,116 --> 00:12:25,116 And he said, "I now pronounce us man and wife," 255 00:12:25,150 --> 00:12:27,300 and the notary public signed the marriage license, and by golly, 256 00:12:27,333 --> 00:12:30,153 they were married right there in the middle of the penalty phase. 257 00:12:30,183 --> 00:12:32,473 MAN: Bundy's attorneys claim that in itself should have raised 258 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,270 a red flag about his mental condition. 259 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:39,280 They agreed with us that there was sufficient evidence 260 00:12:39,316 --> 00:12:44,116 of Bundy's incompetence that we were entitled to a hearing. 261 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:46,400 MAN: The three-judge panel issued the stay of execution 262 00:12:46,433 --> 00:12:50,153 without comment. 263 00:12:50,183 --> 00:12:53,283 JORDAN: For three years Ted Bundy's attorney, James Coleman, 264 00:12:53,316 --> 00:12:56,376 argued his case all the way from the state appellate court to the 265 00:12:56,416 --> 00:12:59,176 Supreme Court, and he succeeded in winning 266 00:12:59,216 --> 00:13:01,376 three stays of execution. 267 00:13:01,416 --> 00:13:04,096 But in January of 1989, 268 00:13:04,133 --> 00:13:07,053 the clock ran down on the fourth death warrant. 269 00:13:07,083 --> 00:13:08,353 He wanted to live. 270 00:13:08,383 --> 00:13:13,333 I'm at the Florida state prison, going to interview Ted Bundy. 271 00:13:13,366 --> 00:13:16,016 Ted realized that he had information 272 00:13:16,050 --> 00:13:18,020 that law enforcement wanted. 273 00:13:18,050 --> 00:13:22,050 That's when we received the call that he wanted to talk to us. 274 00:13:35,433 --> 00:13:37,353 WOMAN: Ted Bundy, a onetime law student 275 00:13:37,383 --> 00:13:40,273 who became one of the FBI's ten most wanted, 276 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:43,450 stands convicted of three murders and is still suspected 277 00:13:43,483 --> 00:13:45,473 in more than 30 others. 278 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,280 Nearly nine years ago, Bundy made tape recordings 279 00:13:48,316 --> 00:13:51,316 in his Florida jail cell for two authors who chronicled 280 00:13:51,350 --> 00:13:52,470 his criminal career. 281 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,330 Bundy was emotional about hearing reports of his case. 282 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:18,470 MAN: Bundy has been in Florida's state prison 283 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,200 on death row for nearly 10 years. 284 00:14:21,233 --> 00:14:24,333 He has been sentenced to death four times in old sparky, 285 00:14:24,366 --> 00:14:26,066 the state's electric chair. 286 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:30,230 It was very disappointing to me that this guy had, you know, 287 00:14:30,266 --> 00:14:32,426 not received a fair trial. 288 00:14:32,466 --> 00:14:35,126 What's ahead for convicted murderer Theodore Bundy now 289 00:14:35,166 --> 00:14:37,176 is a long appeals process. 290 00:14:37,216 --> 00:14:40,396 COLEMAN: What we have to do is to prepare to litigate 291 00:14:40,433 --> 00:14:44,333 in three or four courts at the same time. 292 00:14:44,366 --> 00:14:47,426 I called it litigation at the speed of light. 293 00:14:47,466 --> 00:14:49,096 That's what it felt like. 294 00:14:49,133 --> 00:14:51,323 This is the second death warrant the governor has signed 295 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:52,320 for Ted Bundy. 296 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:54,400 We would file in the circuit court -- 297 00:14:54,433 --> 00:14:56,073 He's entitled to a new sentence. 298 00:14:56,100 --> 00:14:58,220 -- in the Florida Supreme Court -- 299 00:14:58,250 --> 00:14:59,350 Ted should be dead. 300 00:14:59,383 --> 00:15:02,033 I think he's been on death row a little bit too long. 301 00:15:02,066 --> 00:15:03,226 -- Federal District Court. 302 00:15:03,266 --> 00:15:06,116 WOMAN: A state prison van took convicted killer Ted Bundy 303 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:07,400 back to death row. 304 00:15:07,433 --> 00:15:11,033 We went large and appealed in the 11th Circuit. 305 00:15:11,066 --> 00:15:12,996 And then we went large and application 306 00:15:13,033 --> 00:15:15,053 for a stay in the Supreme Court. 307 00:15:15,083 --> 00:15:19,323 He appeared to be rational and he made arguments, but much 308 00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:23,150 of what he did even at the hearing undermined his defense. 309 00:15:23,183 --> 00:15:25,403 MAN: Although Bundy managed to avoid one of Governor Graham's 310 00:15:25,433 --> 00:15:28,223 death warrants, another is imminent. 311 00:15:28,250 --> 00:15:30,430 RUBIN: And he kept getting stays. 312 00:15:30,466 --> 00:15:35,176 Different judges gave him stays for a number of years. 313 00:15:35,216 --> 00:15:37,126 MAN: The U.S. Appellate court ruling marks 314 00:15:37,166 --> 00:15:39,376 the second time Florida has tried to execute 315 00:15:39,416 --> 00:15:43,066 Ted Bundy and the second time it's been blocked. 316 00:15:43,100 --> 00:15:46,250 He represents what's worst about the system 317 00:15:46,283 --> 00:15:47,483 and why you have capital punishment, 318 00:15:48,016 --> 00:15:50,066 to get rid of those who engage in heinous crimes 319 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:52,280 that takes somebody else's life. 320 00:15:52,316 --> 00:15:55,126 I kept thinking of Margaret and Lisa, how their lives 321 00:15:55,166 --> 00:15:58,096 would have been, could have been wonderful, 322 00:15:58,133 --> 00:16:01,203 and it upset me that he took that away. 323 00:16:01,233 --> 00:16:03,323 It's time to end it now. 324 00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:07,020 He took their life, shouldn't he give his? 325 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:10,320 I was just feeling, well -- the judges, they give him stays, 326 00:16:10,350 --> 00:16:13,480 should have their daughter date him. 327 00:16:14,016 --> 00:16:16,126 MAN: The life or death of convicted murderer Ted Bundy 328 00:16:16,166 --> 00:16:19,096 is now in the hands of the Florida Supreme Court. 329 00:16:19,133 --> 00:16:22,233 From the start of 1989, Ted Bundy and his lawyers had been 330 00:16:22,266 --> 00:16:26,046 successful in three stays of execution, but the fourth death 331 00:16:26,083 --> 00:16:31,183 warrant scheduled for Tuesday, January 24, 1989, was looming. 332 00:16:31,216 --> 00:16:35,996 ♪♪ 333 00:16:36,033 --> 00:16:39,373 COLEMAN: When we got the last warrant, I think that there was an enormous 334 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:44,000 pressure on the judges, especially, to not allow 335 00:16:44,033 --> 00:16:46,173 this person to get out of a conviction. 336 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,400 MAN: Are you tired this is going on for so long? 337 00:16:47,433 --> 00:16:49,203 Absolutely. 338 00:16:49,233 --> 00:16:52,053 I don't think the public being fed up has anything to do 339 00:16:52,083 --> 00:16:55,123 with whether we ought to pursue Constitutional claims. 340 00:16:55,150 --> 00:16:57,270 That's the way the system works. 341 00:16:57,300 --> 00:16:59,280 I think the end is drawing very near, 342 00:16:59,316 --> 00:17:04,326 and the final chapter on Ted Bundy is about to be written. 343 00:17:04,366 --> 00:17:08,226 I went up and talked to his mother a couple times. 344 00:17:08,266 --> 00:17:11,316 I felt very sorry for her. 345 00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:15,150 We gave him a good upbringing, and something has happened 346 00:17:15,183 --> 00:17:20,453 to him sometime since he left this house that has 347 00:17:20,483 --> 00:17:24,323 triggered some terrible madness inside of him. 348 00:17:24,350 --> 00:17:27,200 She just simply could not even comprehend it, and was, 349 00:17:27,233 --> 00:17:32,203 for a better word, she was a basket case. 350 00:17:32,233 --> 00:17:38,223 I guess it's been going on for so long that we have, 351 00:17:38,250 --> 00:17:42,280 little by little, been realizing that this was going to happen, 352 00:17:42,316 --> 00:17:49,296 eventually, and I won't say I really accept it, 353 00:17:49,333 --> 00:17:54,183 but I know it's going to happen, and we've just have 354 00:17:54,216 --> 00:17:56,196 to learn to live with it. 355 00:17:56,233 --> 00:17:58,473 Every mom wants their child to be a success. 356 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,080 Every mom, and to see this happen was, 357 00:18:04,116 --> 00:18:11,046 I'm sure, it's what killed her as time went by. 358 00:18:11,083 --> 00:18:13,473 THOMAS: It was very sad for me to know that he had a mother 359 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,050 that loved him so much, and he seemed like 360 00:18:16,083 --> 00:18:21,433 such a handsome man and with such a future and it's shocking. 361 00:18:21,466 --> 00:18:24,126 It's a shocking story. 362 00:18:24,166 --> 00:18:27,126 MAN: Bundy was described by prison officials as becoming 363 00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:30,376 increasingly nervous as his execution approached. 364 00:18:30,416 --> 00:18:32,446 He was quiet most of the time. 365 00:18:32,483 --> 00:18:35,283 He seemed a little depressed at times. 366 00:18:35,316 --> 00:18:36,426 It appeared to me that he realizes 367 00:18:36,466 --> 00:18:40,176 that there's only a few hours left. 368 00:18:40,216 --> 00:18:43,046 With the clock ticking, James Coleman continued pleading 369 00:18:43,083 --> 00:18:46,373 the case in court, but what he didn't know was at the exact 370 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,430 same time, Ted Bundy was pleading his case 371 00:18:49,466 --> 00:18:51,446 from death row. 372 00:18:51,483 --> 00:18:54,303 COLEMAN: We were still trying to get the execution stopped. 373 00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:57,473 I went to Tallahassee to argue in the Supreme Court, 374 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,030 and when I got off the plane, the headlines were 375 00:19:02,066 --> 00:19:06,076 that Ted Bundy had confessed to 12 murders, and I knew 376 00:19:06,116 --> 00:19:09,176 at that point that, you know, we don't have a chance. 377 00:19:09,216 --> 00:19:12,216 MAN: Bundy has confessed to murders in Western states in the past 378 00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:15,220 few days in interviews with law enforcement officials. 379 00:19:15,250 --> 00:19:17,370 I'm sure his whole strategy was just to give us a little 380 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,180 to nibble on, and that in hopes we'd try and get a stay for him. 381 00:19:34,316 --> 00:19:39,026 I've been told that, you know, 382 00:19:39,066 --> 00:19:42,126 the parents of these girls are fairly decent people. 383 00:19:42,166 --> 00:19:45,066 I don't know, and I really feel for them because apparently 384 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:46,220 they suffered some -- 385 00:19:46,250 --> 00:19:48,170 an incredible tragedy in their lives. 386 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,300 The loss of a loved one is probably the most extreme kind 387 00:19:52,333 --> 00:19:57,153 of loss you can suffer in this life, and I say I feel as much 388 00:19:57,183 --> 00:20:00,153 for them as anybody can. 389 00:20:00,183 --> 00:20:01,173 Welcome back to "How it Really Happened." 390 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,430 I'm Hill Harper. 391 00:20:02,466 --> 00:20:06,166 By 1989, Ted Bundy had been on Florida death row for 10 years 392 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,030 proclaiming his innocence while his attorneys fought to overturn 393 00:20:09,066 --> 00:20:10,376 his murder convictions. 394 00:20:10,416 --> 00:20:13,246 His legal team had won three stays of execution, 395 00:20:13,283 --> 00:20:16,053 but now Bundy's luck was running out. 396 00:20:16,083 --> 00:20:18,323 As his date with the electric chair approached, Bundy called 397 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:22,350 investigators from across the country offering to confess to 398 00:20:22,383 --> 00:20:27,073 some unsolved cases and finally tell them how he really did it. 399 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:33,420 ♪♪ 400 00:20:33,450 --> 00:20:35,450 He started to meet with the police, 401 00:20:35,483 --> 00:20:37,373 and he was doing it in secret. 402 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,470 My view was, if he wanted to disclose where bodies 403 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,280 were buried, then he should do that and not place 404 00:20:45,316 --> 00:20:47,076 any conditions on it. 405 00:20:47,116 --> 00:20:52,016 I think that he saw a way to possibly try to save his life. 406 00:20:52,050 --> 00:20:54,020 MAN: Bob Keppel worked at getting a confession 407 00:20:54,050 --> 00:20:56,170 from Ted Bundy for years. 408 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,100 I went down to Florida to interview him 409 00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:03,073 on three separate occasions, and we used the interviews 410 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:06,350 in 1984 as a way for him to talk about 411 00:21:06,383 --> 00:21:10,103 what he would do if he were the killer. 412 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:46,150 And then in '88, it was more like getting him ready 413 00:21:46,183 --> 00:21:48,053 to talk to us again. 414 00:21:48,083 --> 00:21:50,383 MAN: When Keppel went to Florida nearly one year ago, 415 00:21:50,416 --> 00:21:53,316 he was still playing Bundy's game trying to get 416 00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:56,400 any information on the Washington murders. 417 00:21:56,433 --> 00:21:59,473 KEPPEL: We'd already come to the conclusion a long time ago 418 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,420 that he was the one that did them. 419 00:22:19,466 --> 00:22:23,096 The last interview with him was the most telling. 420 00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:26,073 He was supposed to have had some spiritual change. 421 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:27,300 I'm very skeptical of that. 422 00:22:27,333 --> 00:22:30,433 I don't buy that at all, but to all the investigators, 423 00:22:30,466 --> 00:22:32,996 he did give it up. 424 00:22:33,033 --> 00:22:34,283 KEPPEL: That was the first time, that I know of, 425 00:22:34,316 --> 00:22:37,296 that he's admitted any murders to anyone, 426 00:22:37,333 --> 00:22:41,223 and after hearing some of the details of what he's done, 427 00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:44,020 I can understand why it's difficult 428 00:22:44,050 --> 00:22:48,200 because they're not particularly pleasant. 429 00:22:48,233 --> 00:22:50,453 MAN: Bundy, delivering details about the murder 430 00:22:50,483 --> 00:22:52,233 of Georgann Hawkins -- 431 00:22:52,266 --> 00:22:55,366 MAN: The night of June 10th, 18-year-old Georgann Hawkins 432 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,230 left a fraternity to make this walk just 90 feet 433 00:22:59,266 --> 00:23:02,066 down a well-lit alley back to her sorority 434 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,420 at the University of Washington. 435 00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:06,150 MAN: Bundy told Keppel he found Hawkins walking 436 00:23:06,183 --> 00:23:08,403 in a U-district alley about midnight. 437 00:23:43,116 --> 00:23:45,266 I asked him if he killed the two girls 438 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:49,050 at Lake Sammamish State Park, and he said, "Yes." 439 00:23:49,083 --> 00:23:50,273 I asked him if he killed Brenda Ball. 440 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:51,480 He said, "Yes." 441 00:23:52,016 --> 00:23:57,416 WINTERS: And he said with Sue that he rendered her unconscious 442 00:23:57,450 --> 00:23:59,270 and took her to an orchard. 443 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:01,420 We know that much, but that's -- 444 00:24:01,450 --> 00:24:07,020 we don't need to know what he did. 445 00:24:07,050 --> 00:24:15,100 We have enough information to know that it was pure evil. 446 00:24:15,133 --> 00:24:17,303 WOMAN: Ted Bundy was infamous as an intelligent 447 00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:22,403 and handsome charmer, a highly likable boy next door. 448 00:24:22,433 --> 00:24:25,383 KENDALL: When I would think about our day-to-day relationship, 449 00:24:25,416 --> 00:24:28,176 there was nothing there that would lead me to think 450 00:24:28,216 --> 00:24:32,066 that he was capable of doing something like that, 451 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:35,420 and that's the split that I think had everybody baffled. 452 00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:41,180 He confessed to my friend and told her all the stuff outright. 453 00:25:06,183 --> 00:25:10,253 And then a day later, he calls her back and said, 454 00:25:10,283 --> 00:25:13,133 "What you think you heard, you didn't hear right." 455 00:25:13,166 --> 00:25:14,996 LLOYD: This man felt nothing. 456 00:25:15,033 --> 00:25:18,423 With all the people he'd done in, with all the harm he'd done, 457 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:22,020 he still felt nothing, so there was nothing to say sorry for 458 00:25:22,050 --> 00:25:24,470 because he didn't feel sorry. 459 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,200 MAN: Bundy lived in Washington until late 1974 460 00:25:28,233 --> 00:25:31,023 building a promising career in politics. 461 00:25:31,050 --> 00:25:33,400 At the same time he came to law school in Salt Lake City, 462 00:25:33,433 --> 00:25:36,373 young ladies began to disappear in Utah. 463 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,450 I dealt with him a little bit back in 1975 464 00:25:39,483 --> 00:25:42,283 when we had him on some charges up in Salt Lake. 465 00:25:42,316 --> 00:25:46,066 I really will be surprised if he does talk to us, 466 00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:49,320 but I am here just in the chance that he might. 467 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:53,350 Bundy admitted to the homicide and kidnapping 468 00:25:53,383 --> 00:25:58,353 of the Kent girl from up in Bountiful. 469 00:25:58,383 --> 00:26:00,323 MAN: Debbie was attending a play with her family 470 00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:04,380 at Viewmont High School on the night of November 8, 1974. 471 00:26:04,416 --> 00:26:07,466 She left the play early to pick up her brother at an ice rink. 472 00:26:23,016 --> 00:26:27,216 SULLIVAN: He said he dumped Debbie Kent's body off at, I think, 473 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:31,320 it's Fairview, Utah, and they did find a patella, a portion, 474 00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:35,120 I guess, of the kneecap. 475 00:26:35,150 --> 00:26:37,020 They turned it over to the Kent family. 476 00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:41,470 You know, as a mother, I don't think until you lose a child 477 00:26:42,016 --> 00:26:46,046 you ever know the pain and the hurt that it is. 478 00:26:46,083 --> 00:26:47,323 SULLIVAN: He murdered these women. 479 00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:51,150 Sometimes he would rape them before, but a lot of times 480 00:26:51,183 --> 00:26:53,403 he would like to have sex with them after they were dead. 481 00:26:53,433 --> 00:26:55,433 So he was -- he was a necrophile, 482 00:26:55,466 --> 00:26:57,146 but he never liked talking about that. 483 00:27:06,066 --> 00:27:08,346 JORDAN: Ted Bundy not only offered information on where 484 00:27:08,383 --> 00:27:12,003 investigators might find the victims' remains, but he also 485 00:27:12,033 --> 00:27:15,083 offered clues as to why they had trouble with certain kinds 486 00:27:15,116 --> 00:27:18,146 of evidence, such as the murder weapons. 487 00:27:18,183 --> 00:27:21,223 Ted didn't leave much of a trail behind. 488 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000 McCHESNEY: In the end, it frustrated and irritated and probably even 489 00:27:42,033 --> 00:27:44,453 angered many of the law enforcement officials. 490 00:27:44,483 --> 00:27:47,423 At one point, it was, "You're done." 491 00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:52,420 ♪♪ 492 00:27:52,450 --> 00:27:55,350 We started to prepare him for the execution. 493 00:27:55,383 --> 00:27:59,303 REGISTER: He was, I think, quite terrified when he came in. 494 00:27:59,333 --> 00:28:02,103 He was puckered. 495 00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:24,370 MAN: Ted Bundy may finally die Tuesday morning 496 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,270 after over 10 years on death row. 497 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,320 Ted Bundy reached out to investigators in Colorado, Utah, 498 00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:34,430 and Washington State, offering them information on those open, 499 00:28:34,466 --> 00:28:38,246 unsolved cases as a bargaining chip trying 500 00:28:38,283 --> 00:28:40,123 to save his own life. 501 00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:42,070 Bundy confessed to around 20 murders. 502 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,430 He was linked to dozens more. 503 00:28:43,466 --> 00:28:48,016 He confessed to killing people they didn't even know were dead. 504 00:28:48,050 --> 00:28:52,250 He confessed to killing some hitchhiker out West and told 505 00:28:52,283 --> 00:28:55,473 them where the body was buried, and they called local law 506 00:28:56,016 --> 00:29:00,026 enforcement, and lo and behold, there was a body there. 507 00:29:00,066 --> 00:29:04,166 He was coming clean, and he was also very tired. 508 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,000 Ted was not the bold, defiant individual 509 00:29:07,033 --> 00:29:09,203 that we have observed on TV. 510 00:29:09,233 --> 00:29:10,483 He was a defeated person. 511 00:29:11,016 --> 00:29:12,476 Approximately an hour into the interview, 512 00:29:13,016 --> 00:29:17,226 he began to break down and cry, and stated that he was sorry. 513 00:29:36,233 --> 00:29:40,103 But he also threatened to withhold information. 514 00:29:40,133 --> 00:29:46,273 Bundy's attorneys were notifying the parents 515 00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:51,200 that if we could write a letter to the governor and ask, 516 00:29:51,233 --> 00:29:55,233 like, for a stay, you know, of execution, 517 00:29:55,266 --> 00:29:59,426 he would tell everything, and I remember thinking, 518 00:29:59,466 --> 00:30:03,146 "If I do write to the governor, 519 00:30:03,183 --> 00:30:06,333 Bundy might lie about everything." 520 00:30:06,366 --> 00:30:08,476 For him to be negotiating for his life 521 00:30:09,016 --> 00:30:12,476 over the bodies of victims is despicable. 522 00:30:13,016 --> 00:30:16,246 McCHESNEY: The risk of that sort of a bargain with the devil, 523 00:30:16,283 --> 00:30:18,483 if you will, is that they're going 524 00:30:19,016 --> 00:30:20,266 to give you false information. 525 00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:22,100 They're going to send you on tangents. 526 00:30:22,133 --> 00:30:25,353 They're going to just mislead you in 100 ways, 527 00:30:25,383 --> 00:30:30,483 only so that they can benefit by postponing the inevitable, 528 00:30:31,016 --> 00:30:33,326 in his case, which was execution. 529 00:30:33,366 --> 00:30:35,366 SULLIVAN: He was hoping that it would create more time, 530 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,430 in Bundy's mind, three months, six months. 531 00:30:37,466 --> 00:30:41,276 He just wanted to hold on to his life. 532 00:30:41,316 --> 00:30:44,346 KATSARIS: That's all he had left was to bargain. 533 00:30:44,383 --> 00:30:48,023 He tried to blame it on pornography, for example. 534 00:30:48,050 --> 00:30:50,170 MAN: California religious broadcaster and psychologist 535 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,120 Dr. James Dobson interviewed Bundy Monday afternoon. 536 00:30:54,150 --> 00:30:57,130 You were with Ted Bundy before he was electrocuted 537 00:30:57,166 --> 00:30:58,296 by the state of Florida, were you not? 538 00:30:58,333 --> 00:30:59,423 I was. 539 00:30:59,450 --> 00:31:01,000 He wanted me to get -- have the last interview -- 540 00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:02,223 KING: What was that like? 541 00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:07,000 -- and he wanted to confess and explain why he felt he got 542 00:31:07,033 --> 00:31:10,373 into trouble, and he wanted to talk about pornography, and what 543 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,400 it had done in his life. 544 00:31:12,433 --> 00:31:14,473 BUNDY: Like an addiction, you keep craving something, 545 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,030 which is harder, harder, something which gives you 546 00:31:19,066 --> 00:31:23,376 a greater sense of excitement, 547 00:31:23,416 --> 00:31:25,346 until you reach the point where the pornography 548 00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:28,283 only goes so far. 549 00:31:28,316 --> 00:31:30,246 SULLIVAN: Pornography does a lot of negative things, especially 550 00:31:30,283 --> 00:31:33,233 to relationships and marriages, but one thing it doesn't do; 551 00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:36,016 it does not cause people to slaughter women 552 00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:39,470 and cut off their heads. 553 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:46,130 Bundy is just trying to pass the blame on why he's the way he is. 554 00:31:46,166 --> 00:31:47,366 THOMPSON: It was not going to make a bit of difference. 555 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:53,030 Once you do confess to all those things, then it's hard to say, 556 00:31:53,066 --> 00:31:55,176 you know, "Florida, don't do this." 557 00:31:55,216 --> 00:32:00,046 On January 24, at 7:00 A.M., the death warrant will be in effect. 558 00:32:00,083 --> 00:32:01,453 You don't negotiate with a murderer. 559 00:32:01,483 --> 00:32:08,153 ♪♪ 560 00:32:08,183 --> 00:32:10,073 Attorney General called and said, 561 00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,080 "It's going to happen this time." 562 00:32:12,116 --> 00:32:14,466 Execution is, you know, going to happen. 563 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,330 MAN: Ted Bundy sits in this wing of the Florida state prison 30 feet 564 00:32:18,366 --> 00:32:21,176 from the electric chair where he's scheduled to die. 565 00:32:21,216 --> 00:32:24,996 I had worked a long, hard time seeing to it 566 00:32:25,033 --> 00:32:28,083 that he got executed and seeing it through to the end was 567 00:32:28,116 --> 00:32:30,146 attending his execution. 568 00:32:30,183 --> 00:32:33,383 MAN: Mike Vasilinda -- 569 00:32:33,416 --> 00:32:37,316 We were supposed to be at the prison at 4:00 or 4:30. 570 00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:40,070 The van picked us up. They took us over. 571 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,280 We were taken to the execution chamber. 572 00:32:42,316 --> 00:32:44,416 REGISTER: But for a glass wall, we could have reached out 573 00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:46,000 and touched him on the knee. 574 00:32:46,033 --> 00:32:51,023 He was that close, and, you know, he was, 575 00:32:51,050 --> 00:32:53,450 I think, quite terrified when he came in. 576 00:32:53,483 --> 00:32:55,373 He was puckered. 577 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,200 COLEMAN: They sat him down in the chair, and they started 578 00:32:58,233 --> 00:33:00,283 to prepare him for the execution. 579 00:33:00,316 --> 00:33:04,266 He looked more disoriented than defiant. 580 00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:08,170 He asked me and the minister to tell his family 581 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,000 that he loved them. 582 00:33:10,033 --> 00:33:12,253 MAN: The beginning of the end for Ted Bundy came 583 00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,373 when the prison's generator was started 584 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,380 to power the electric chair's 2,000 volts. 585 00:33:18,416 --> 00:33:20,396 Lights outside death row flickered, 586 00:33:20,433 --> 00:33:23,023 and Bundy's life winked out. 587 00:33:23,050 --> 00:33:27,080 Tell you what I heard said when the execution was accomplished, 588 00:33:27,116 --> 00:33:28,476 "That was too easy. 589 00:33:29,016 --> 00:33:32,276 They ought to bring him back and do it again 30 more times. 590 00:33:32,316 --> 00:33:35,296 That was too easy for what he had done." 591 00:33:35,333 --> 00:33:38,273 We got a call saying that, you know, it was over, 592 00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:40,480 that he had been electrocuted, 593 00:33:41,016 --> 00:33:44,366 and we knew before everyone on television. 594 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,100 At 7:16 this morning, the doctor at Florida state prison 595 00:33:48,133 --> 00:33:50,153 pronounced Theodore Bundy dead. 596 00:33:50,183 --> 00:33:52,473 I cried, just wailed, and I think it was 597 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,150 for Lisa and Margaret more than for me. 598 00:33:56,183 --> 00:33:58,083 McCAIN: You never, you know, get over that pain. 599 00:33:58,116 --> 00:34:01,196 You never get -- healing is a huge process, and a part 600 00:34:01,233 --> 00:34:04,133 of your heart is always broken, but yes, 601 00:34:04,166 --> 00:34:08,016 I think there was a sense that, you know, justice had been done. 602 00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:10,420 Ted has gotten just exactly what he deserved. 603 00:34:10,450 --> 00:34:13,380 If anybody ever fit the death penalty as such, Ted Bundy did. 604 00:34:13,416 --> 00:34:16,996 MAN: Then a hearse carrying a metal pauper's coffin 605 00:34:17,033 --> 00:34:19,433 with Bundy's body inside left the prison. 606 00:34:19,466 --> 00:34:22,466 I was awake until they drove him out. 607 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,130 I just -- I started to cry and my nose, 608 00:34:25,166 --> 00:34:28,076 it was just like my -- I was relieved in such a sense 609 00:34:28,116 --> 00:34:31,176 that I could relax now after all these years. 610 00:34:31,216 --> 00:34:34,046 And on the -- across the street from the prison 611 00:34:34,083 --> 00:34:38,123 on the right, cheers went up and people were celebrating. 612 00:34:38,150 --> 00:34:42,130 ♪ Hey, hey, hey, good-bye ♪ Yeah! 613 00:34:42,166 --> 00:34:45,996 COLEMAN: People were cheering for the execution of a person 614 00:34:46,033 --> 00:34:50,353 who had been denied the rights that our system guarantees, 615 00:34:50,383 --> 00:34:52,083 and nobody cared. 616 00:34:52,116 --> 00:34:54,266 WINTERS: That was such a hard thing for us. 617 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:58,020 So hard for us to say, you know, "You need to die," 618 00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:00,220 but he had to be stopped. We knew that. 619 00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:04,470 I think if he wouldn't have been stopped, he'd have kept killing. 620 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,050 The morning after the execution, a Seattle television station 621 00:35:10,083 --> 00:35:13,133 came and we did the interview, and towards 622 00:35:13,166 --> 00:35:18,426 the end, she said, "I have Mrs. Bundy listening to you. 623 00:35:18,466 --> 00:35:22,116 Is there anything you want to say to her?" 624 00:35:25,483 --> 00:35:27,453 WOMAN: In a quiet corner of the Lake City cemetery 625 00:35:27,483 --> 00:35:31,053 lies a shy, sweet, 12-year-old girl. 626 00:35:31,083 --> 00:35:34,373 Kim Leach was abducted from her school here almost 11 years ago. 627 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,480 After Ted Bundy there was a realization that no matter where 628 00:35:39,016 --> 00:35:44,446 you live or who you are, you know, you can be a victim. 629 00:35:44,483 --> 00:35:47,183 MAN: Bundy had beaten the electric chair for 10 years 630 00:35:47,216 --> 00:35:49,476 on death row until Tuesday. 631 00:35:50,016 --> 00:35:54,026 Theodore Bundy was executed at 7:16 this morning 632 00:35:54,066 --> 00:35:55,366 in the electric chair at Florida state prison. 633 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:01,030 When Ted Bundy got executed, I, as well as many others, 634 00:36:01,066 --> 00:36:03,126 thought, "Hooray." 635 00:36:03,166 --> 00:36:04,326 He got what he deserved. 636 00:36:04,366 --> 00:36:07,996 The fact that he could kill these innocent young women 637 00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:13,173 just sees so far beyond even one's imagination. 638 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,150 GOOD: I think he got the justice that he deserved. 639 00:36:16,183 --> 00:36:19,373 Not that I'm advocating for the death penalty, but there didn't 640 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,300 seem to be any alternative for someone who had done such 641 00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,133 horrific things to so many people 642 00:36:25,166 --> 00:36:27,196 and especially to my friend. 643 00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:30,253 A federal judge called Bundy the most competent serial killer 644 00:36:30,283 --> 00:36:34,433 in the country; a diabolical genius, a life of brutality, 645 00:36:34,466 --> 00:36:37,346 murder and deceit, a life that ended this morning 646 00:36:37,383 --> 00:36:42,173 as an unsolved mystery. 647 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,220 The morning after the execution, a Seattle television station 648 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:51,370 came and we did the interview, and towards the end, 649 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,020 she said, "I have Mrs. Bundy listening to you. 650 00:36:56,050 --> 00:36:58,270 Is there anything you want to say to her?" 651 00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:03,300 And I told her that we were so sorry that this had to happen, 652 00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:09,233 and she talked back to me that I never wanted this to be true. 653 00:37:09,266 --> 00:37:12,016 I just never thought it would be true. 654 00:37:12,050 --> 00:37:17,070 He was our much-beloved son, and we can't -- 655 00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:20,000 we didn't raise him to be this kind of person. 656 00:37:20,033 --> 00:37:23,403 She was hurting. Oh, my goodness. 657 00:37:23,433 --> 00:37:30,223 I had a daughter like Sue, and I have all those golden memories, 658 00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:32,000 and what did she have? 659 00:37:32,033 --> 00:37:34,433 What did she take to her grave? 660 00:37:34,466 --> 00:37:41,416 Shame and disappointment, guilt, heartache. 661 00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:45,420 MAN: We all share in the shame of Ted Bundy -- Tacoma, 662 00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:49,450 the University district, the east side of Lake Sammamish 663 00:37:49,483 --> 00:37:53,403 where he conducted a couple of the murders, 664 00:37:53,433 --> 00:37:59,333 Olympia, Ellensburg, Utah, Colorado, Florida. 665 00:37:59,366 --> 00:38:01,066 I think there was a determination 666 00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:05,200 to not be a victim, to not let an individual try to strip you 667 00:38:05,233 --> 00:38:07,233 of that kind of future. 668 00:38:07,266 --> 00:38:13,076 I try not to ever let it define me, but it's still a part of me. 669 00:38:13,116 --> 00:38:14,266 There was nothing that he did 670 00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:18,020 that was going to stop any part of my life. 671 00:38:18,050 --> 00:38:21,250 I had too much to go for, too many things I wanted to do. 672 00:38:21,283 --> 00:38:23,223 I didn't want to be held back. 673 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:25,220 You just got to keep going because there's going 674 00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:27,400 to be another hurdle in front of you and you can't let 675 00:38:27,433 --> 00:38:31,073 any one of them keep you down. 676 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:35,230 Your best revenge is a life well lived, so go for it. 677 00:38:35,266 --> 00:38:40,226 Be your best self and make your life wonderful. 678 00:38:40,266 --> 00:38:44,446 I just want to be sure the women are not forgotten that did die. 679 00:38:44,483 --> 00:38:50,203 It's sad that they never had the opportunity to live their lives. 680 00:38:50,233 --> 00:38:52,483 My sister Sue, people knew her 681 00:38:53,016 --> 00:39:00,326 when she was alive and pretty and healthy, 682 00:39:00,366 --> 00:39:08,346 and that's what I want her to be remembered as. 683 00:39:08,383 --> 00:39:12,233 You don't ever put those you love out of your heart 684 00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:13,466 and your mind. 685 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,030 They're there. 686 00:39:16,066 --> 00:39:21,066 I don't believe in the word "closure" for victims' families. 687 00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:23,020 There isn't any closure. 688 00:39:23,050 --> 00:39:28,380 It's an open wound that scars over, but it's there, 689 00:39:28,416 --> 00:39:31,396 and she'll always be in our life. 690 00:39:35,233 --> 00:39:38,433 Bundy took one final mystery to the grave with him; 691 00:39:38,466 --> 00:39:43,016 why he became one of history's worst mass killers. 692 00:39:43,050 --> 00:39:46,130 What shocked Tallahassee, what shocked Florida, 693 00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:50,166 what shocked the nation, was the boy next door was a monster, 694 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,430 and nobody knew it. 695 00:39:52,466 --> 00:39:55,326 He told me that he was sick, that there was a force 696 00:39:55,366 --> 00:39:59,266 within him that he tried to fight and tried to contain, 697 00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:01,200 but that it just kept building and building, 698 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:03,433 and it made him do the things that he did. 699 00:40:03,466 --> 00:40:06,346 I'm not sure exactly how many he actually confessed to. 700 00:40:06,383 --> 00:40:09,473 The FBI has figured around 35. 701 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,430 There is some hint that there might have been a lot more. 702 00:40:14,466 --> 00:40:19,166 To him, it's a big hunt-and-chase game, 703 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:27,050 and the fear and the terror is overwhelmingly exciting. 704 00:40:27,083 --> 00:40:30,023 THOMPSON: I guess it's a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde; 705 00:40:30,050 --> 00:40:32,420 that notion has been around for a long time. 706 00:40:32,450 --> 00:40:38,170 You have a person who on one moment appears to be 707 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,370 an affable, decent, intelligent fellow that you like 708 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,030 to spend time with, and the next moment, he's, you know, 709 00:40:46,066 --> 00:40:51,096 severing some woman's head and visiting her dead body. 710 00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:55,333 And how do you put those things together? 711 00:40:55,366 --> 00:40:58,276 BUNDY: I hear Ted Bundy in so many different contexts. 712 00:40:58,316 --> 00:41:03,016 You did create a media image of me 713 00:41:03,050 --> 00:41:07,470 that's far beyond the reality of me. 714 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,300 I'm not going to try to please people or impress people, 715 00:41:10,333 --> 00:41:14,373 because, quite frankly, the amount of bias and prejudice 716 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,400 that surrounds me as a media image, 717 00:41:17,433 --> 00:41:19,373 I can't begin to tear down. 718 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,330 ♪♪ 719 00:41:24,366 --> 00:41:28,226 After admitting to 36 murders, Ted Bundy's reign of terror 720 00:41:28,266 --> 00:41:32,376 ended with his execution was on January 24, 1989. 721 00:41:32,416 --> 00:41:35,266 His heartbroken mother, Louise, lived for another 22 years. 722 00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:37,220 She passed away in 2012. 723 00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:41,120 The identity of Ted's biological father has never been revealed. 724 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:43,350 The Chi Omega sorority has created a scholarship fund 725 00:41:43,383 --> 00:41:48,033 in the name of fallen sisters, Margaret Bowman and Lisa Levy. 726 00:41:48,066 --> 00:41:50,176 Susan Rancourt's mother, Vivian said her daughter 727 00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:53,146 was always smiling and kind to everyone. 728 00:41:53,183 --> 00:41:56,153 Susan's family has dedicated a memorial garden in her name 729 00:41:56,183 --> 00:41:58,473 at Central Washington University. 730 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,370 I'm Hill Harper. 731 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,280 Thanks for watching. 61349

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