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People know me, and I'm happy
with the image that,
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you know, the way people
perceive me in that
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when they come up to me,
it's normally very positive.
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You know, I feel like everywhere
I go, I got friends everywhere,
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and people talk to me
as if I'm an old friend.
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So I get enough of that.
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I don't need any more of that.
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Hey, everyone.
I'm Hill Harper,
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and welcome
to "How It Really Happened."
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So tonight, our first
of two parts
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taking a new look
at all things O.J.
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Now, I don't know about you,
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but I remember exactly
where I was
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when I saw the footage of him
riding in that white Bronco.
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Man!
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So let's jump in and analyze
what really happened.
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After O.J. Simpson's
acquittal,
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the murders
of Nicole Brown Simpson
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and Ron Goldman
remain unsolved.
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In trials such as these,
the prosecutors must prove
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their case
beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Most believe that the jury
had reasonable doubt
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because of a combination
of factors --
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O.J.'s overwhelming popularity
in Los Angeles,
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serious pockets of distrust
of the LAPD
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and their practices,
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and strong feelings
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that the evidence
just didn't add up.
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So what we're going to look at
is the glorified O.J. of 1994,
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the hero
so many Americans,
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and especially Angelenos,
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thought incapable of such
a vicious and violent crime,
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leaving many to speculate
someone else may have done it.
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Over 20 years
after the murders,
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O.J.'s attorney, Robert Shapiro,
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asserted to Megyn Kelly
in a Fox interview
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that the real killers
are still out there.
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Shapiro: The prosecution wedded
themselves
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to one-knife, one-killer theory.
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I think it's pretty clear
that it was within
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reasonable medical probability
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that more than one knife
was used.
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There is a strong possibility
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that more than one person
was involved.
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And you believe the killer
of Nicole Brown Simpson
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and Ron Goldman
has never faced trial?
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I think there is a strong
possibility
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that that's the case.
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On June 13, 1994,
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at approximately 10 minutes
after midnight,
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a witness discovered the body
of Nicole Brown Simpson
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and the second body,
Mr. Ronald Goldman.
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When I got word
that Nicole Brown Simpson
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and Ron Goldman
had been killed,
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I really didn't know
what it was about.
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Victim Nicole Brown Simpson
is the ex-wife
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of O.J. Simpson.
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"That guy? Oh, my God,
O.J. Simpson."
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There were so many questions
that we had,
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and early on,
as in many cases,
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the attention turns to the
ex-spouse,
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in this case, O.J. Simpson.
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O.J. and Nicole first met
in 1977,
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if I remember correctly,
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and it was a hot and heavy
and torrid courtship.
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I mean, it was love
at first sight.
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She met him when she was
19 years old,
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and he was the love
of her life.
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Moret: She was much younger
than he was.
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She was very attractive, blonde,
great figure, pretty lady,
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stunning in a very
L.A. kind of way,
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in a way that says,
"Look at me," you know?
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There was something subtle
about Nicole,
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and they were
a very dynamic couple.
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A day or two -- might have been
the day of that he met Nicole,
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he said to his buddies that,
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"I'm going to end up marrying
that girl one day."
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Moret: When you watch the video,
like many weddings you go to,
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you see the playfulness.
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You see the love in their eyes.
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You see the closeness.
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They looked like
they were in love.
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I just want to say, it was
the happiest day of my life,
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it really was.
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And everybody said it would be,
and it was.
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Watts: It was real love.
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It was love
for many, many years.
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The relationship lasted
until 1992.
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That's when Nicole
filed for divorce.
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O.J. Simpson was divorced,
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but this woman was very much
a part of his life.
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Watts: Until June 12, 1994,
when it ended.
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Joining us now from
Los Angeles is Denise Brown
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who has become a major public
figure out of all of this.
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Where were you that night,
Denise?
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The night of June 12th?
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Yep.
I was at Sydney's
dance recital.
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Velez-Mitchell:
At about 4:30,
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O.J. and Nicole's daughter,
Sydney,
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is going to be in a recital
at her middle school,
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and the whole family
is showing up.
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So Nicole is there,
and her family is there,
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and O.J. arrives late
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bearing flowers
for his daughter, Sydney,
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and he talks to everybody
in Nicole's family.
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Hill: O.J. Simpson sat
by himself at the recital
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because Nicole Brown Simpson
was making it clear
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to O.J. Simpson that
their relationship was over.
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And at the dance recital,
there are certainly suggestions
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that there was a breach
and there was anger between them
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that was unusually strong,
even for them.
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Velez-Mitchell:
After the recital is over,
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Nicole and her entourage,
her family,
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decide they're going to go
to Mezzaluna for dinner,
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this very fashionable
restaurant in Brentwood.
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The Brown family,
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which O.J. had been very close
to over the years, said,
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"You are not welcome
at dinner with us tonight."
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Moret: Mezzaluna was not far
from where Nicole lived.
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It was almost within
walking distance.
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They probably left
around 8:00 or so.
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They went to have ice cream
after that with the kids.
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Velez-Mitchell: So Judith Brown,
Nicole's mom, realizes
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at about 9:40, "Oh, I left
my glasses at the restaurant
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or in front
of the restaurant."
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And she calls Nicole,
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and it's arranged
that Ron Goldman,
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who is a waiter at Mezzaluna,
will drop off the glasses
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in an envelope to Nicole
after he leaves work.
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He went to go drop off
some sunglasses at her house,
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being a nice guy
and doing a favor for a friend.
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The phone call from Judith Brown
to her daughter, Nicole,
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was a perfectly ordinary,
everyday event.
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But in the context,
those dropped glasses
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may have cost both Ron Goldman
and Nicole their lives.
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Clark:
What happened next?
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Well, I was walking --
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I was walking down Dorothy.
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As I approached the corner
of Dorothy and Bundy,
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I saw that there was
a dog at the corner.
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It was a large Akita,
very white.
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The dog Steven Schwab
found loose is Nicole's dog.
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He ends up turning it over
to his neighbor, Sukru Boztepe.
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Anything on it
that you saw?
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There was red spots
on the dog.
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And what did that red spots
look like --
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those red spots
look like to you?
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Blood.
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We decided to take the dog
for a walk,
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and actually we just let
the dog lead us.
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I turned right and looked exact
the same direction
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what the dog was looking.
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And what did you see?
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I seen a body.
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It was woman laying down
horizontally
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all the way to the path.
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There was a lot of blood.
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What did you do?
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I told my wife that there is
a dead person there
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and, "You should call 911."
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The next morning I woke up,
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and 6:15 in the morning,
we got a phone call.
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Who took the call?
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My mother did,
but all of a sudden
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I hear a scream,
and I run back there,
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and she said,
"Nicole has been killed.
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Nicole has been murdered."
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There was obviously
a very violent struggle.
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The horror of what
really happened
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cannot be explained in words.
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Hill: I could see blood
on the sidewalk,
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and I thought to myself,
"That's a lot of blood."
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Reporter: The quiet community of
Brentwood is not very quiet now.
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Crowds of the curious gathered
to look at a murder scene
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where O.J. Simpson's ex-wife,
Nicole,
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and a 25-year-old
apparent friend,
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Ron Goldman, were killed.
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The horror of
what really happened
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cannot be explained in words.
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It's such a violent crime scene.
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It's such a bloody crime scene.
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I'm terrified.
I'm terrified. It's frightening.
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There was obviously
a very violent struggle.
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It was evident that there were
numerous slashing
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and stabbing wounds.
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Reporter:
Is it important that you talk
to Mr. Simpson at this point?
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Are you looking to talk to him?
Yes.
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We have already
contacted him.
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Simpson was already
on his way to Chicago.
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Once he was contacted the
following morning, he returned.
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Reporter: When contacted by
police about his wife's death,
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authorities say Simpson returned
to Los Angeles voluntarily.
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We interviewed him
probably 11 to 12 hours
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after the murders occurred.
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At that time,
he was not a suspect.
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Moret: I was at the CNN bureau.
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The bureau chief at the time
came into our department
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and asked what sounds
like a crazy question,
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but it was an honest question.
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He said, "Do you think this is
going to be a big news story
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or a big entertainment story?"
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And I said, "Both."
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The big question was,
following the first 48
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to 72 hours after the murders,
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was O.J. a suspect?
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Moret: People loved him.
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So I think the public didn't
want to believe early on
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that O.J. Simpson could be
responsible for this.
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Oh, I'm shocked and mortified.
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It's very hard to believe
because he is such a gentleman
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and such a very mellow person.
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I mean, it just seemed, like,
so out of character
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from anything you had ever heard
about the man.
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It just didn't seem possible.
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People forget
how wildly popular he was.
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He was like a Beatle.
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Crowd: USA! USA! USA!
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He could do no wrong.
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He was charming, handsome,
charismatic.
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People were just
in love with him.
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Reporter:
The friendly, likable O.J.
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had been America's image
of man nicknamed the Juice.
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I'll show you how smart I am.
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I'm dating my ex-wife.
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Watts: O.J. Simpson,
the celebrity African-American
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that transcended race,
this NFL legend and superstar.
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Reporter:
A star running back at USC,
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the Buffalo Bills drafted him
in the first round in 1969.
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He finished his career
as the second leading rusher
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in NFL history
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and was inducted in the Pro
Football Hall of Fame in 1985.
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Who didn't respect O.J.
growing up?
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Who didn't run up and down
this field as a football player
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when they were little and say,
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"Hey, I'm O.J. Simpson,"
you know?
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"I'm the Juice."
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O.J. Simpson was
a true celebrity.
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Mind over matter --
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You wouldn't look at him
and think he was a great talent,
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he was a great athlete,
but he was very likable.
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O.J. was the first
African-American athlete
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to receive
major commercial endorsement
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in the United States.
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Go, O.J., go!
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Reporter: After his retirement
from pro football,
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he became a spokesperson
for Hertz Rent a Car.
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Ever need to rent a car fast?
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♪ Nobody does it better ♪
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That's how I knew
O.J. Simpson.
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I knew this guy who was flying
through the airports
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for Hertz in the commercials
all over the place,
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and I knew the guy who was,
you know, in the movies.
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I knew him more of
an entertainment star
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as opposed to a sports figure.
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O.J. actually started
his movie career
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when he was still an active
football player in the NFL.
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"The Naked Gun" trilogy,
everyone, of course,
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remembers that one.
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-Nordberg!
-How are you, buddy?
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Hey!
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Hey, doc says I should
be on my feet
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and as good
as new in a week.
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And back on the force.
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Nordberg,
that's wonderful.
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-Whoa!
-Oh, Frank.
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Everyone should have
a friend like you.
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Oh!
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This is a person that loved
to be adulated by people.
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This is a person who loved
people coming up to him
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and loved people
asking for autographs.
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Crowd: O.J.! O.J.!
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You couldn't help but notice
O.J. Simpson.
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You noticed him because he was
that kind of a presence.
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He was magnetic.
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Velez-Mitchell:
People don't want to believe
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that a guy that likable,
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that handsome, that charming,
that charismatic,
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they don't want to believe
somebody that perfect
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can be so awful.
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You're a good guy.
Thank you, Larry.
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Soles: O.J. Simpson,
he's an American sports hero,
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a movie star,
a commercial pitchman,
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and a football broadcaster.
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Now he possibly could be
a murder suspect.
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Watts: Police will tell you
in their mind
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that O.J. was the only suspect,
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but publicly,
he was being described
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as a person of interest.
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Reporter:
Is he a suspect?
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I can't comment on that
right now.
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Can you talk about the evidence
you have uncovered in there?
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Excuse me.
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It became evident, however,
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that he was a possible suspect
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when we viewed his left hand
was bleeding.
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We knew that the suspect
was bleeding at the scene,
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whoever that might be.
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I said, "I don't know
if this is, like, a big thing,
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but I heard these thumps,"
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these boom, boom, boom,
and the picture moved.
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Lange: Fuhrman followed up on
that, as he well should have,
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on what these thumps
may or may not have been.
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Toobin:
Once they find the glove,
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the detectives really start
to investigate
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what's going on
at Rockingham.
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And O.J. Simpson
goes from a victim,
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or the spouse of the victim,
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to a person of interest
or a suspect.
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Reporter: Day one, Monday --
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The bodies of
35-year-old Nicole Brown Simpson
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and 25-year-old
Ronald Goldman are found outside
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Nicole Simpson's
Los Angeles condominium.
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♪♪
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It was after midnight
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when the police finally arrived
at the crime scene.
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I could see blood
on the sidewalk,
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but I noticed blood
coming down the grout channels
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between the tiles,
and I thought to myself,
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"That's a lot of blood."
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Nicole was found on the steps.
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Her feet were beneath
the wrought-iron fence,
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beneath the mailbox.
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Ron Goldman's body was
found sprawled on the ground.
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There was obviously
a very violent struggle.
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The first patrolman on the scene
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was actually a very astute
observer of what went on.
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He saw the watch cap.
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He saw the envelope
that contained the glasses.
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He saw the bloody footprints.
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He saw a lot of
the key evidence in the case,
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and he didn't disturb it.
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Velez-Mitchell: O.J.'s kids
were left inside the condo
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with their mother
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in a pool of blood
right outside the condo.
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Certainly one of the most
heartbreaking parts
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of this whole story
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was that on the night
of the murder,
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Sydney and Justin,
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the young children of O.J.
and Nicole,
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were taken out
of their bedrooms on Bundy
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and taken to a police station.
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And while they're there,
Sydney calls their home
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trying to reach her mother,
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and she leaves
a heartbreaking message.
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She says, "Please answer, Mommy.
Please answer.
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Why are we at
the police station?"
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And it's only later, of course,
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they're told that
their mother is dead.
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Lange: Once we were able to
identify Nicole Simpson,
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we knew -- We found out that
she was either married to
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or estranged from or possibly
divorced from O.J. Simpson.
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The lead detectives,
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Detective Phil Vannatter
and Tom Lange and Mark Fuhrman
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and another detective, head
over to the Rockingham estate.
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One of the big controversies
in the trial
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was why did Vannatter
and Fuhrman
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leave the murder scene
and go to O.J. Simpson's house
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within a few hours
of the discovery of the bodies?
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It was our intention,
myself and my partner,
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to go up there and meet
Mr. Simpson so we could know him
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and ultimately interview him
regarding this murder.
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Toobin:
Vannatter and Fuhrman claimed
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that they went to O.J.'s house
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to inform O.J. that his ex-wife
had been killed.
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The defense claimed that
Vannatter and Fuhrman
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went to O.J.'s house to try to
pin the murder on him
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and ultimately, they assert,
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to plant evidence against O.J.
at his own house.
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Lange: Four detectives,
myself included,
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took two vehicles over
to the Rockingham location
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to notify Simpson
about the murders
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and to interview him.
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Vannatter: I observed a white
Bronco parked at the east curb
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just north of
the Rockingham gate.
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I walked around and looked
at the Bronco parked there.
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Detective Fuhrman
was already at the Bronco.
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Detective Fuhrman identified
what appeared to be blood
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on the outside of
O.J. Simpson's Bronco.
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Fuhrman: As I was walking past
the vehicle,
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I noticed a small spot
above the door handle
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of the driver's side
of the vehicle.
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They see the blood on the Bronco
and they think,
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"Wow, maybe
there's another victim here."
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So they're, at that point,
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concerned O.J. might have
been a victim,
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but then they go
inside the property.
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Lange: At this point,
I'm thinking we possibly
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we have other victims inside.
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It was at that point Fuhrman
went over the wall.
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I jumped the wall
just to the left
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or east of the Ashford gate,
landed on the other side,
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came around, let the other
detectives into the location.
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After Fuhrman jumps the fence,
opens the door,
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and the detectives start
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knocking on doors
at the property,
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the first person who answers
is Kato Kaelin.
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When Fuhrman interviewed
Kato Kaelin,
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Kato mentioned that he was on
the phone with his girlfriend,
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lying in bed.
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I said, "I don't know
if this is, like, a big thing,
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but I heard these thumps,"
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these boom, boom, boom,
and the picture moved,
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and when the picture moved,
I said,
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"I think we just had
an earthquake."
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It's back behind this wall,
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and that's where
they found the glove.
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Lange: Fuhrman followed up on
that, as he well should have,
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on what these thumps
may or may not have been.
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Fuhrman: I continued walking
down the path,
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and when I got approximately
15 or 20 feet away,
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I saw a dark object.
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It appeared
a dark leather glove.
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It appeared to be
somewhat moist or sticky.
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It appeared that parts
were sticking
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to other parts of the glove.
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Once they find the glove,
the detectives really start
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to investigate
what's going on at Rockingham.
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Lange:
Right about the same time,
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the sun is coming up,
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and several people observe
what appears to be a blood trail
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from the rear of the Bronco
at the Rockingham gate
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tailing from the rear
of the Bronco,
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in through the gate,
up towards the front.
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Reporter: Are those blood spots
in the driveway?
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Be careful.
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Toobin: Phil Vannatter
finds drops of blood,
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drops of fresh blood
on the walkway
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and in the foyer of
O.J. Simpson's house.
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At this time,
the decision was made
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to declare this a crime scene.
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When that happens, you vacate
everybody from the home.
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It was decided that Phil would
get a search warrant,
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which we would have needed
at that particular point.
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Reporter: My question was,
is O.J. Simpson a suspect?
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Well, obviously we're not
going to rule anybody out.
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Watts: Ronald Goldman was
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a self-defense-trained person
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20 years younger
than O.J. Simpson,
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but he had
24 different wounds and cuts
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and scratches on his hands.
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The criminal made a mess
of the crime scene.
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I mean, there was blood
everywhere.
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If O.J. carried out
these murders,
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why was there not
more blood in O.J.'s Bronco?
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Welcome back to
"How It Really Happened."
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Homicide investigators
regularly talk
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to close family members
of murder victims,
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so as expected, LAPD detectives
wanted to question O.J.
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O.J. fans offered their idol
total support.
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They wondered "Wasn't O.J.
on a business trip to Chicago
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when all this happened?"
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And also, they refused
to believe O.J.
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could have murdered his ex-wife
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while his children slept inside.
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Was O.J. Simpson the victim of
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a law and order
rush to judgment?
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On one hand, he appeared to be
a grieving husband
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to a murdered ex-wife,
and on the other,
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a person of growing interest
to investigators waiting for
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O.J.'s return from Chicago.
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Soles: Los Angeles police
have been talking
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to go former pro football star
O.J. Simpson today
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after the death of his ex-wife
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and a 26-year-old man
early this morning.
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We wanted to interview him
as the spouse,
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or the former spouse.
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This is where you start
an investigation
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if there's no eyewitnesses.
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Reporter: My question was,
is O.J. Simpson a suspect?
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Well, obviously we're not
going to rule anyone out,
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and we will pursue
whoever we need to pursue
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until we bring the party
to justice.
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Have you been told
you're under arrest, O.J.?
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When you talk to detectives,
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they will tell you
that they look for evidence,
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some of it exonerating,
some of it implicating.
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In this case, detectives said
all the evidence
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Pointed in one direction,
toward one person --
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O.J. Simpson.
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Reporter: Police found blood on
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and inside
Simpson's white Ford Bronco,
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on his driveway,
and in two of his bathrooms.
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They also a bloody glove
containing bleach-blonde hairs
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that may match a glove
found at the crime scene.
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It looked like
a rock-solid case.
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It just never totally
added up for me.
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So I'm very glad I was able
to be here
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and spend this time with you
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because God knows
where I'll be in a year.
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Ron Goldman and O.J. Simpson
are exactly the same height.
495
00:23:22,033 --> 00:23:28,203
Ronald Goldman was
a self-defense-trained person,
496
00:23:28,233 --> 00:23:32,073
20 years younger
than O.J. Simpson,
497
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:35,070
but he had
24 different wounds and cuts
498
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:38,480
and scratches on his hands,
so-called defense wounds,
499
00:23:39,016 --> 00:23:42,126
and the perpetrator
of that crime would have,
500
00:23:42,166 --> 00:23:46,366
I thought, had more scratches,
cuts, or bruises.
501
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,450
And when O.J. Simpson came back
in town and he was examined
502
00:23:49,483 --> 00:23:54,233
by the Los Angeles
police department on June 13th,
503
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:58,396
all he had on his entire body
scratch-wise, bruise-wise,
504
00:23:58,433 --> 00:24:06,053
cut-wise was just a cut on one
of his fingers on his left hand.
505
00:24:06,083 --> 00:24:09,403
And furthermore, the criminal
made a mess of the crime scene.
506
00:24:09,433 --> 00:24:11,303
I mean, there was blood
everywhere.
507
00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:15,333
This killer must have exited
the scene with blood all over,
508
00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:21,096
and we could never understand
why in O.J.'s Bronco
509
00:24:21,133 --> 00:24:25,403
there wasn't more blood
on the floorboard,
510
00:24:25,433 --> 00:24:29,133
on the console,
on the steering wheel,
511
00:24:29,166 --> 00:24:31,266
and other parts
of the vehicle as well.
512
00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:32,450
As we know, there were
513
00:24:32,483 --> 00:24:35,483
voluminous amounts of blood
at Bundy Drive,
514
00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:38,216
the crime scene,
voluminous amounts.
515
00:24:38,250 --> 00:24:41,100
At Rockingham, at O.J.'s home,
there were very little.
516
00:24:41,133 --> 00:24:46,173
There were four or five little
drops found in the driveway.
517
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,230
If O.J. carried out
these murders,
518
00:24:48,266 --> 00:24:51,326
why was there not more blood?
519
00:24:51,366 --> 00:24:54,296
Reporter: Chicago police scoured
an overgrown field
520
00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:57,053
near the hotel where
O.J. Simpson stayed
521
00:24:57,083 --> 00:24:58,283
after leaving Los Angeles
the night of the killings.
522
00:24:58,316 --> 00:25:00,046
Reporter 2: Later in the week,
police searched a vacant lot
523
00:25:00,083 --> 00:25:02,003
beside the Chicago hotel,
524
00:25:02,033 --> 00:25:04,123
reportedly looking
for a murder weapon.
525
00:25:04,150 --> 00:25:07,130
Christian: They looked high
and mighty for that knife.
526
00:25:07,166 --> 00:25:08,416
They looked on the plane
that he flew
527
00:25:08,450 --> 00:25:10,280
to Chicago in that night.
528
00:25:10,316 --> 00:25:14,466
They looked in wall cavities
in the hotel room
529
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,180
that he stayed in that night.
530
00:25:16,216 --> 00:25:18,196
They looked everywhere.
531
00:25:18,233 --> 00:25:20,153
They never found the knife.
532
00:25:22,083 --> 00:25:25,283
Robert Kardashian --
We know that he walked out
533
00:25:25,316 --> 00:25:29,396
of O.J.'s Rockingham estate
with a bulging garment bag
534
00:25:29,433 --> 00:25:33,083
the day after the murders.
535
00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:35,026
I have nothing to hide and --
536
00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:38,446
Who would do that not wondering,
"Am I carrying out evidence?
537
00:25:38,483 --> 00:25:40,183
Am I carrying out
the murder weapon?
538
00:25:40,216 --> 00:25:42,166
Am I carrying out
the bloody clothes?"
539
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,470
Reporter:
Deputy DA Christopher Darden
said back in August,
540
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,350
he warned Kardashian not to
disturb the bag or its contents.
541
00:25:48,383 --> 00:25:52,233
When the luggage was returned
to court, it was empty.
542
00:25:52,266 --> 00:25:56,076
Christian: Robert Kardashian was
in a very unique situation
543
00:25:56,116 --> 00:25:57,416
because he was not only
O.J.'s friend,
544
00:25:57,450 --> 00:26:00,200
but he was one of his attorneys.
545
00:26:00,233 --> 00:26:04,153
Now, prosecutors wanted
to question him
546
00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:05,403
about this garment bag,
547
00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:08,053
what might have been
in the garment bag.
548
00:26:08,083 --> 00:26:10,423
Unfortunately for them,
549
00:26:10,450 --> 00:26:13,130
you can claim
attorney-client privilege,
550
00:26:13,166 --> 00:26:15,166
so prosecutors never were able
551
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,280
to question
Kardashian about that.
552
00:26:18,316 --> 00:26:20,096
So we just don't know,
at this point,
553
00:26:20,133 --> 00:26:21,323
what's in it or what was in it.
554
00:26:26,133 --> 00:26:30,333
Reporter:
Goldman was buried on Thursday
by his grief-stricken family.
555
00:26:30,366 --> 00:26:32,296
I love my son dearly.
556
00:26:34,316 --> 00:26:36,476
And we're going to
miss him a lot.
557
00:26:37,016 --> 00:26:39,216
And we'll miss him.
558
00:26:39,250 --> 00:26:43,180
That same day, O.J. Simpson
and his two children by Nicole
559
00:26:43,216 --> 00:26:44,366
went to her funeral.
560
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,300
Reporter 2: Simpson's new
attorney, Robert Shapiro,
561
00:26:46,333 --> 00:26:48,023
was also there,
562
00:26:48,050 --> 00:26:50,120
along with notables
such as former Olympic star
563
00:26:50,150 --> 00:26:53,270
Bruce Jenner and Steve Garvey,
a former L.A. Dodger.
564
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:57,270
I can't believe that someone
could be so evil and cruel
565
00:26:57,300 --> 00:26:59,170
and do something like this.
566
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,150
Reporter: No one had been
arrested for the murders,
567
00:27:01,183 --> 00:27:03,133
but reporters
quoted police sources
568
00:27:03,166 --> 00:27:05,476
who said Simpson
was their suspect.
569
00:27:06,016 --> 00:27:09,396
King:
Is the new media watch word
guilty until proven innocent?
570
00:27:09,433 --> 00:27:14,203
Is O.J. Simpson's image changed
for good in a single day?
571
00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:16,473
McKenzie:
He said to me, he says,
572
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,000
"Can you imagine that they think
I did something like this?"
573
00:27:22,033 --> 00:27:23,303
And I said, "Man, you're right."
574
00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:24,453
I couldn't imagine it.
575
00:27:24,483 --> 00:27:28,453
I said, "It's people
that don't know O.J. Simpson."
576
00:27:28,483 --> 00:27:31,403
The AP is reporting
that murder charges
577
00:27:31,433 --> 00:27:34,183
were filed today
against O.J. Simpson.
578
00:27:34,216 --> 00:27:38,066
The Los Angeles police
department right now
579
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:42,380
is actively searching
for Mr. Simpson.
580
00:27:42,416 --> 00:27:47,296
King: Police believe that
O.J. Simpson is in that car.
581
00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:52,053
Okay. Police believe he is
in that vehicle.
582
00:27:52,083 --> 00:27:55,453
Toobin: During the Bronco chase,
everyone in America knew
583
00:27:55,483 --> 00:27:59,373
O.J. was in that car
and possibly suicidal.
584
00:28:12,250 --> 00:28:13,420
We want to tell you that --
585
00:28:13,450 --> 00:28:16,120
Something that is just now
crossing the wires right now,
586
00:28:16,150 --> 00:28:17,220
and I'm looking
at the computer.
587
00:28:17,250 --> 00:28:20,180
The AP is reporting
that murder charges
588
00:28:20,216 --> 00:28:22,426
were filed today
against O.J. Simpson
589
00:28:22,466 --> 00:28:26,316
in the slayings of his ex-wife
and the male friend.
590
00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:28,200
Gascon:
This morning, detectives from
591
00:28:28,233 --> 00:28:30,273
the Los Angeles
police department
592
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:34,430
sought and obtained a warrant
for the arrest of O.J. Simpson,
593
00:28:34,466 --> 00:28:38,996
charging him with the murders of
Nicole Brown Simpson
594
00:28:39,033 --> 00:28:41,303
and Ronald Lyle Goldman.
595
00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:45,333
Christian:
As part of Robert Shapiro's
duties as O.J.'s attorney,
596
00:28:45,366 --> 00:28:47,126
O.J. Simpson's attorney,
597
00:28:47,166 --> 00:28:50,316
he makes a deal
with the prosecutor's office
598
00:28:50,350 --> 00:28:55,230
that Mr. Simpson will turn
himself in at a certain time.
599
00:28:55,266 --> 00:28:59,066
When the time came,
he was gone.
600
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:02,080
Mr. Simpson,
601
00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:06,226
in agreement with his attorney,
602
00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:08,396
was scheduled to surrender
this morning
603
00:29:08,433 --> 00:29:11,153
to the Los Angeles
police department.
604
00:29:11,183 --> 00:29:14,453
Initially, that was 11:00.
605
00:29:14,483 --> 00:29:18,033
It then became 11:45.
606
00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:21,266
The Los Angeles police
department right now
607
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:26,070
is actively searching
for Mr. Simpson.
608
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,150
Man: Whoo!
609
00:29:27,183 --> 00:29:29,423
The most wondered-about man
in America
610
00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:31,370
has gone missing tonight.
611
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,480
He apparently disappeared
from under the noses
612
00:29:34,016 --> 00:29:36,346
of his lawyers
and doctors this afternoon,
613
00:29:36,383 --> 00:29:38,383
dodged an arranged surrender,
614
00:29:38,416 --> 00:29:41,076
and vanished into
the Los Angeles haze.
615
00:29:43,416 --> 00:29:50,066
If you in any way are assisting
Mr. Simpson in avoiding justice,
616
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,150
Mr. Simpson is a fugitive
of justice right now.
617
00:29:57,066 --> 00:30:02,366
O.J., wherever you are,
for the sake of your family,
618
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,070
for the sake of your children,
619
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:09,130
please surrender immediately.
620
00:30:09,166 --> 00:30:13,296
Robert Kardashian found
a note from O.J.
621
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:16,303
Kardashian:
"First, everyone understand
622
00:30:16,333 --> 00:30:21,353
I have nothing to do
with Nicole's murder.
623
00:30:21,383 --> 00:30:26,333
I loved her, always have,
and always will.
624
00:30:26,366 --> 00:30:29,996
Don't feel sorry for me.
625
00:30:30,033 --> 00:30:34,073
I've had a great life,
great friends.
626
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,150
Please think of the real O.J.
627
00:30:37,183 --> 00:30:40,053
and not this lost person."
628
00:30:40,083 --> 00:30:43,423
I am very confident
we're going to find O.J. Simpson
629
00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:46,370
because this is
a man who can't hide too easily.
630
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,220
I mean, his face is well-known
631
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:50,450
to millions of people
throughout the world.
632
00:30:53,316 --> 00:30:57,246
It was a few hours later
that the white Bronco,
633
00:30:57,283 --> 00:31:00,003
O.J. Simpson's car,
634
00:31:00,033 --> 00:31:02,433
was spotted in Orange County
at that time.
635
00:31:02,466 --> 00:31:04,046
I understand
we're going to go
636
00:31:04,083 --> 00:31:07,323
to a live picture
in Los Angeles.
637
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:08,370
Is that correct?
638
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,270
Okay.
This is Interstate 5,
639
00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:13,370
and this is
courtesy of KCALR,
640
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,130
one of our L.A.
affiliates.
641
00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:17,196
Police believe that --
642
00:31:17,233 --> 00:31:19,023
King: It's hard to believe
it's 20 years.
643
00:31:19,050 --> 00:31:20,250
Damn.
644
00:31:20,283 --> 00:31:22,073
That car chase,
I was on the air
645
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:25,200
for whole 2,
2 1/2 hours of that.
646
00:31:25,233 --> 00:31:29,373
Police believe that O.J. Simpson
is in the car.
647
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,170
Half the police force
is following him on the road,
648
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,450
and people are waving him on.
649
00:31:34,483 --> 00:31:38,073
You couldn't sell this
as fiction.
650
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,150
Now they're telling me that
they believe that this vehicle
651
00:31:41,183 --> 00:31:45,123
is registered to Al Cowlings,
one of O.J.'s oldest friends,
652
00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:47,100
a teammate at Southern Cal.
653
00:31:47,133 --> 00:31:48,203
Cowlings: This is A.C.
654
00:32:01,233 --> 00:32:03,073
Toobin: During the Bronco chase,
655
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:07,120
everyone in America knew
O.J. was in that car
656
00:32:07,150 --> 00:32:09,030
and possibly suicidal.
657
00:32:17,150 --> 00:32:18,330
Dispatch: Okay.
658
00:32:18,366 --> 00:32:23,146
O.J. Simpson talked by the phone
659
00:32:23,183 --> 00:32:24,423
with one
of the police detectives.
660
00:32:44,050 --> 00:32:47,420
As far down as you could see,
people were lining the highway.
661
00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:50,350
Woman: Go, O.J.!
662
00:32:52,316 --> 00:32:55,426
This looked like hundreds
of people out of their cars,
663
00:32:55,466 --> 00:32:59,166
and getting farther and farther
out into the roadway
664
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,170
to get a look at
Al Cowlings and O.J. Simpson
665
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,120
and all those police cars
as they went on by.
666
00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:09,180
Reporter: He's moving over now,
Eric, moving over to the right,
667
00:33:09,216 --> 00:33:13,066
which means he may take
that Sunset Boulevard off-ramp.
668
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,400
Hill: At one point we figured,
669
00:33:14,433 --> 00:33:17,383
"Yes, he's going to head
to Rockingham,
670
00:33:17,416 --> 00:33:20,166
O.J. Simpson's home,
671
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,080
where police are
waiting for him."
672
00:33:22,116 --> 00:33:24,426
Reporter: All right.
Tell me when we're up.
673
00:33:24,466 --> 00:33:28,326
[ Sirens wailing ]
674
00:33:28,366 --> 00:33:30,126
Moret:
And at that last off-ramp,
675
00:33:30,166 --> 00:33:31,376
there were so many people there,
676
00:33:31,416 --> 00:33:33,376
and they had posters.
"Go, O.J."
677
00:33:33,416 --> 00:33:36,226
"Free O.J." Whatever.
"We love you, O.J."
678
00:33:36,266 --> 00:33:37,416
It was crazy.
679
00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:40,450
Officer: Stay head of him.
We're going to his mansion.
680
00:33:40,483 --> 00:33:44,083
Moret: It was the worst possible
scenario for the LAPD.
681
00:33:48,116 --> 00:33:50,016
Almost three hours
after it started,
682
00:33:50,050 --> 00:33:52,450
it looked like the Bronco chase
was finally coming to an end.
683
00:33:52,483 --> 00:33:57,333
Officer: Very close to the house
now, very, very close.
684
00:33:57,366 --> 00:33:59,996
Christian: The police think,
685
00:34:00,033 --> 00:34:02,273
"Great, now we've got O.J.
where we want him.
686
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,430
We can take him out of the car."
No.
687
00:34:04,466 --> 00:34:08,166
O.J.'s oldest son runs up
to the car.
688
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Why? Because he's so upset.
689
00:34:10,150 --> 00:34:15,030
Jason, O.J.'s son from his first
marriage, is yelling at the car.
690
00:34:15,066 --> 00:34:18,326
Spillman: Pulling up.
Let me tell you.
691
00:34:18,366 --> 00:34:20,466
Moret:
Police finally pull him away,
692
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,350
and they're trying
to get a handle on this
693
00:34:23,383 --> 00:34:25,233
out-of-control situation,
694
00:34:25,266 --> 00:34:30,096
and they finally are able
to negotiate with O.J. Simpson.
695
00:34:30,133 --> 00:34:31,273
Here's what we know right now --
696
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:33,020
Lieutenant Duncan
has just come up here
697
00:34:33,050 --> 00:34:35,150
and told us that O.J. Simpson
has surrendered.
698
00:34:35,183 --> 00:34:38,323
He has surrendered
without incident.
699
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,370
O.J. may have surrendered,
but the circus, the chaos,
700
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,000
the twists, the turns of
this case were just beginning.
701
00:35:07,033 --> 00:35:08,483
Clarke:
Mr. Orenthal James Simpson,
702
00:35:09,016 --> 00:35:11,026
you committed
the crime of murder.
703
00:35:11,066 --> 00:35:13,996
Simpson: How could anybody say
I could have killed Nicole?
704
00:35:18,183 --> 00:35:20,253
♪♪
705
00:35:20,283 --> 00:35:21,473
Clarke:
Mr. Orenthal James Simpson,
706
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,050
is that your true name, sir?
Yes.
707
00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:25,483
Reporter: O.J. Simpson
looked tired and drawn
708
00:35:26,016 --> 00:35:28,376
as he was arraigned
in Los Angeles Superior Court.
709
00:35:28,416 --> 00:35:29,476
Clarke: You committed the crime
of murder
710
00:35:30,016 --> 00:35:34,396
in violation of penal code
Section 187(A).
711
00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:36,403
Simpson: During those first
nights in jail,
712
00:35:36,433 --> 00:35:41,023
I was so depressed not only
about what was going on with me
713
00:35:41,050 --> 00:35:42,420
but imagining
the pain of Nicole,
714
00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:44,350
the loss of Nicole.
715
00:35:44,383 --> 00:35:46,003
I was hurting.
716
00:35:46,033 --> 00:35:47,383
I was hurting real bad.
717
00:35:47,416 --> 00:35:50,396
How could anybody say
I could have killed Nicole?
718
00:35:50,433 --> 00:35:52,323
How could anybody say that?
719
00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:55,370
I want to state unequivocally
that I did not commit
720
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,350
these horrible crimes.
721
00:35:57,383 --> 00:36:01,003
The Simpson trial is still weeks
or even months away,
722
00:36:01,033 --> 00:36:02,153
but the closely watched case
723
00:36:02,183 --> 00:36:04,323
continues to generate
strong reaction
724
00:36:04,350 --> 00:36:06,130
from people all across the U.S.
725
00:36:06,166 --> 00:36:11,476
If you are white, you saw this
through the eyes of,
726
00:36:12,016 --> 00:36:13,476
"Well, this is
a cut-and-dry case.
727
00:36:14,016 --> 00:36:15,216
This is a man
who killed his wife."
728
00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:19,450
If you're African-American,
this was the perfect opportunity
729
00:36:19,483 --> 00:36:22,403
to even the score,
at least a little bit.
730
00:36:22,433 --> 00:36:24,333
Hill: ANewsweek
731
00:36:24,366 --> 00:36:26,246
of the African-Americans
surveyed
732
00:36:26,283 --> 00:36:28,453
believe O.J. Simpson was set up
in the killings.
733
00:36:28,483 --> 00:36:31,223
23% of whites
believe that theory.
734
00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:35,270
Race is not an issue
in the O.J. Simpson case.
735
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:36,470
I don't know what he means.
736
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,170
Race, it seems to me,
is clearly an issue.
737
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,350
I think that was the source
of the racial divide.
738
00:36:45,383 --> 00:36:48,473
King: I've got a friend this day
that thinks O.J. didn't do it.
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Just didn't do it.
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You know, he'll buy
any theory you give him.
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Law enforcement sources tell CNN
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the Los Angeles
police department
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now believes two people
may have killed
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O.J. Simpson's
former wife Nicole
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and her friend Ronald Goldman.
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Do you think -- Do you buy
any of the defense's arguments
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that the police were somehow
involved in setting up O.J.,
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planting things,
that kind of thing?
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Schwartz: I don't know who's out
there, but I believe the people
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that did this
are definitely out there.
751
00:37:38,066 --> 00:37:39,196
It seemed to some people
752
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there were a lot of issues
in this case.
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Watts: Underneath the
fingernails of Nicole's hands,
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there was skin and blood
that were not consistent
755
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with Ron Goldman
or O.J. Simpson.
756
00:37:55,283 --> 00:38:00,123
There are shoe prints
at the Bundy crime scene
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that are not consistent
with the shoes
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that Goldman was wearing,
759
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nor the Bruno Magli shoes that
Simpson was allegedly wearing.
760
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There were also blood drops
on Nicole's back
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that did not match O.J.,
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and as the case developed,
alternate theories surfaced.
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The narrative from the beginning
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from the defense
perspective was,
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"The real killer
is still out there.
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O.J. Simpson is innocent."
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Watts: We would hear
different theories,
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and different murder plots
and conspiracy theories
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came forward all the time.
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Velez-Mitchell: This guy,
Glen Rogers, claimed,
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at one point,
that he murdered 70 women,
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and he tells a friend of his
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that one of those women
was Nicole.
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Moret: Bill Wasz claims
that he was offered $1,000
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to tail or follow Nicole
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and offered $15,000
to kill her.
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He supposedly kept copious notes
in a 10-page detailed notebook.
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Velez-Mitchell: So it kind of
shows that unless he's psychic,
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he was doing something vis-à-vis
Nicole before she was murdered.
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The one that we heard the most
is that O.J. didn't do it.
781
00:39:16,416 --> 00:39:18,116
Jason Simpson did it.
782
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And I realized, based on
what I had been told so far,
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that O.J. didn't do it.
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It's ludicrous.
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Distrust of the LAPD
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and its history of egregious
misconduct against citizens
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put law enforcement
on the defensive.
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Officers were certainly
not the heroes
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in this investigation.
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00:39:36,383 --> 00:39:38,433
O.J. was the star.
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00:39:38,466 --> 00:39:41,476
His devoted fans
voiced loud support,
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00:39:42,016 --> 00:39:44,166
and it never died down.
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00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,070
Many doubted O.J.'s involvement
in the murders,
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00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:51,000
but if not O.J.,
who else could have done this?
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Some began to consider
other possible culprits.
796
00:39:54,016 --> 00:39:55,346
These theories gained momentum
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when evidence pointed away
from O.J. Simpson.
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00:39:59,066 --> 00:40:01,176
The O.J. Simpson investigation
produced
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more than its fair share
of conspiracy theories,
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including a serial killer who
wrote a letter of confession,
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a career criminal
who claimed it was
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00:40:09,466 --> 00:40:12,326
a murder-for-hire
hit on Nicole.
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We will explore
some of those theories
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in greater depth in part two of
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00:40:17,233 --> 00:40:20,183
"How It Really Happened:
The O.J. Simpson Case."
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