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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,233 --> 00:00:11,283 People know me, and I'm happy with the image that, 2 00:00:11,316 --> 00:00:14,196 you know, the way people perceive me in that 3 00:00:14,233 --> 00:00:17,103 when they come up to me, it's normally very positive. 4 00:00:17,133 --> 00:00:19,373 You know, I feel like everywhere I go, I got friends everywhere, 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,450 and people talk to me as if I'm an old friend. 6 00:00:21,483 --> 00:00:23,073 So I get enough of that. 7 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:25,070 I don't need any more of that. 8 00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:31,370 ♪♪ 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:38,180 ♪♪ 10 00:00:38,216 --> 00:00:40,346 Hey, everyone. I'm Hill Harper, 11 00:00:40,383 --> 00:00:43,323 and welcome to "How It Really Happened." 12 00:00:43,350 --> 00:00:46,380 So tonight, our first of two parts 13 00:00:46,416 --> 00:00:49,196 taking a new look at all things O.J. 14 00:00:49,233 --> 00:00:50,223 Now, I don't know about you, 15 00:00:50,250 --> 00:00:53,000 but I remember exactly where I was 16 00:00:53,033 --> 00:00:56,133 when I saw the footage of him riding in that white Bronco. 17 00:00:56,166 --> 00:00:57,376 Man! 18 00:00:57,416 --> 00:01:02,216 So let's jump in and analyze what really happened. 19 00:01:02,250 --> 00:01:04,230 After O.J. Simpson's acquittal, 20 00:01:04,266 --> 00:01:06,226 the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson 21 00:01:06,266 --> 00:01:09,026 and Ron Goldman remain unsolved. 22 00:01:09,066 --> 00:01:11,226 In trials such as these, the prosecutors must prove 23 00:01:11,266 --> 00:01:13,476 their case beyond a reasonable doubt. 24 00:01:14,016 --> 00:01:16,176 Most believe that the jury had reasonable doubt 25 00:01:16,216 --> 00:01:18,196 because of a combination of factors -- 26 00:01:18,233 --> 00:01:21,173 O.J.'s overwhelming popularity in Los Angeles, 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,120 serious pockets of distrust of the LAPD 28 00:01:24,150 --> 00:01:25,330 and their practices, 29 00:01:25,366 --> 00:01:26,346 and strong feelings 30 00:01:26,383 --> 00:01:30,183 that the evidence just didn't add up. 31 00:01:30,216 --> 00:01:35,326 So what we're going to look at is the glorified O.J. of 1994, 32 00:01:35,366 --> 00:01:37,226 the hero so many Americans, 33 00:01:37,266 --> 00:01:39,276 and especially Angelenos, 34 00:01:39,316 --> 00:01:43,266 thought incapable of such a vicious and violent crime, 35 00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:47,400 leaving many to speculate someone else may have done it. 36 00:01:47,433 --> 00:01:50,103 Over 20 years after the murders, 37 00:01:50,133 --> 00:01:52,003 O.J.'s attorney, Robert Shapiro, 38 00:01:52,033 --> 00:01:54,433 asserted to Megyn Kelly in a Fox interview 39 00:01:54,466 --> 00:01:58,066 that the real killers are still out there. 40 00:01:58,100 --> 00:02:01,150 Shapiro: The prosecution wedded themselves 41 00:02:01,183 --> 00:02:06,433 to one-knife, one-killer theory. 42 00:02:06,466 --> 00:02:10,346 I think it's pretty clear that it was within 43 00:02:10,383 --> 00:02:13,303 reasonable medical probability 44 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:15,473 that more than one knife was used. 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,450 There is a strong possibility 46 00:02:18,483 --> 00:02:20,383 that more than one person was involved. 47 00:02:20,416 --> 00:02:23,376 And you believe the killer of Nicole Brown Simpson 48 00:02:23,416 --> 00:02:27,196 and Ron Goldman has never faced trial? 49 00:02:27,233 --> 00:02:29,073 I think there is a strong possibility 50 00:02:29,100 --> 00:02:32,080 that that's the case. 51 00:02:32,116 --> 00:02:34,066 On June 13, 1994, 52 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:36,430 at approximately 10 minutes after midnight, 53 00:02:36,466 --> 00:02:39,396 a witness discovered the body of Nicole Brown Simpson 54 00:02:39,433 --> 00:02:43,153 and the second body, Mr. Ronald Goldman. 55 00:02:43,183 --> 00:02:46,333 When I got word that Nicole Brown Simpson 56 00:02:46,366 --> 00:02:48,266 and Ron Goldman had been killed, 57 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:50,430 I really didn't know what it was about. 58 00:02:50,466 --> 00:02:53,376 Victim Nicole Brown Simpson is the ex-wife 59 00:02:53,416 --> 00:02:55,046 of O.J. Simpson. 60 00:02:55,083 --> 00:02:59,183 "That guy? Oh, my God, O.J. Simpson." 61 00:02:59,216 --> 00:03:01,276 There were so many questions that we had, 62 00:03:01,316 --> 00:03:05,116 and early on, as in many cases, 63 00:03:05,150 --> 00:03:07,050 the attention turns to the ex-spouse, 64 00:03:07,083 --> 00:03:10,373 in this case, O.J. Simpson. 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,000 O.J. and Nicole first met in 1977, 66 00:03:15,033 --> 00:03:16,283 if I remember correctly, 67 00:03:16,316 --> 00:03:20,326 and it was a hot and heavy and torrid courtship. 68 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:23,316 I mean, it was love at first sight. 69 00:03:23,350 --> 00:03:26,170 She met him when she was 19 years old, 70 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,220 and he was the love of her life. 71 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:30,050 Moret: She was much younger than he was. 72 00:03:30,083 --> 00:03:35,353 She was very attractive, blonde, great figure, pretty lady, 73 00:03:35,383 --> 00:03:38,473 stunning in a very L.A. kind of way, 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,300 in a way that says, "Look at me," you know? 75 00:03:41,333 --> 00:03:43,253 There was something subtle about Nicole, 76 00:03:43,283 --> 00:03:48,473 and they were a very dynamic couple. 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,130 A day or two -- might have been the day of that he met Nicole, 78 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:55,146 he said to his buddies that, 79 00:03:55,183 --> 00:03:58,153 "I'm going to end up marrying that girl one day." 80 00:04:00,216 --> 00:04:04,066 Moret: When you watch the video, like many weddings you go to, 81 00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:05,180 you see the playfulness. 82 00:04:05,216 --> 00:04:07,076 You see the love in their eyes. 83 00:04:07,116 --> 00:04:09,276 You see the closeness. 84 00:04:09,316 --> 00:04:11,076 They looked like they were in love. 85 00:04:11,116 --> 00:04:13,176 I just want to say, it was the happiest day of my life, 86 00:04:13,216 --> 00:04:14,246 it really was. 87 00:04:14,283 --> 00:04:16,323 And everybody said it would be, and it was. 88 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:18,070 Watts: It was real love. 89 00:04:18,100 --> 00:04:20,220 It was love for many, many years. 90 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:23,370 The relationship lasted until 1992. 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,430 That's when Nicole filed for divorce. 92 00:04:25,466 --> 00:04:29,166 O.J. Simpson was divorced, 93 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,150 but this woman was very much a part of his life. 94 00:04:32,183 --> 00:04:36,323 Watts: Until June 12, 1994, when it ended. 95 00:04:36,350 --> 00:04:39,020 Joining us now from Los Angeles is Denise Brown 96 00:04:39,050 --> 00:04:42,150 who has become a major public figure out of all of this. 97 00:04:42,183 --> 00:04:44,283 Where were you that night, Denise? 98 00:04:44,316 --> 00:04:45,376 The night of June 12th? 99 00:04:45,416 --> 00:04:49,166 Yep. I was at Sydney's dance recital. 100 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,020 Velez-Mitchell: At about 4:30, 101 00:04:51,050 --> 00:04:53,270 O.J. and Nicole's daughter, Sydney, 102 00:04:53,300 --> 00:04:56,330 is going to be in a recital at her middle school, 103 00:04:56,366 --> 00:04:58,366 and the whole family is showing up. 104 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,300 So Nicole is there, and her family is there, 105 00:05:01,333 --> 00:05:04,073 and O.J. arrives late 106 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:07,100 bearing flowers for his daughter, Sydney, 107 00:05:07,133 --> 00:05:11,003 and he talks to everybody in Nicole's family. 108 00:05:11,033 --> 00:05:14,303 Hill: O.J. Simpson sat by himself at the recital 109 00:05:14,333 --> 00:05:18,253 because Nicole Brown Simpson was making it clear 110 00:05:18,283 --> 00:05:24,073 to O.J. Simpson that their relationship was over. 111 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:27,380 And at the dance recital, there are certainly suggestions 112 00:05:27,416 --> 00:05:31,166 that there was a breach and there was anger between them 113 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,380 that was unusually strong, even for them. 114 00:05:34,416 --> 00:05:36,266 Velez-Mitchell: After the recital is over, 115 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:39,270 Nicole and her entourage, her family, 116 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:42,000 decide they're going to go to Mezzaluna for dinner, 117 00:05:42,033 --> 00:05:45,003 this very fashionable restaurant in Brentwood. 118 00:05:45,033 --> 00:05:46,403 The Brown family, 119 00:05:46,433 --> 00:05:50,433 which O.J. had been very close to over the years, said, 120 00:05:50,466 --> 00:05:54,226 "You are not welcome at dinner with us tonight." 121 00:05:54,266 --> 00:05:56,396 Moret: Mezzaluna was not far from where Nicole lived. 122 00:05:56,433 --> 00:06:00,073 It was almost within walking distance. 123 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:02,330 They probably left around 8:00 or so. 124 00:06:02,366 --> 00:06:05,246 They went to have ice cream after that with the kids. 125 00:06:05,283 --> 00:06:07,473 Velez-Mitchell: So Judith Brown, Nicole's mom, realizes 126 00:06:08,016 --> 00:06:11,326 at about 9:40, "Oh, I left my glasses at the restaurant 127 00:06:11,366 --> 00:06:13,096 or in front of the restaurant." 128 00:06:13,133 --> 00:06:14,453 And she calls Nicole, 129 00:06:14,483 --> 00:06:17,283 and it's arranged that Ron Goldman, 130 00:06:17,316 --> 00:06:21,146 who is a waiter at Mezzaluna, will drop off the glasses 131 00:06:21,183 --> 00:06:24,383 in an envelope to Nicole after he leaves work. 132 00:06:24,416 --> 00:06:26,446 He went to go drop off some sunglasses at her house, 133 00:06:26,483 --> 00:06:29,103 being a nice guy and doing a favor for a friend. 134 00:06:29,133 --> 00:06:32,033 The phone call from Judith Brown to her daughter, Nicole, 135 00:06:32,066 --> 00:06:35,316 was a perfectly ordinary, everyday event. 136 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:39,380 But in the context, those dropped glasses 137 00:06:39,416 --> 00:06:44,096 may have cost both Ron Goldman and Nicole their lives. 138 00:06:44,133 --> 00:06:49,473 ♪♪ 139 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,150 Clark: What happened next? 140 00:06:51,183 --> 00:06:52,153 Well, I was walking -- 141 00:06:52,183 --> 00:06:54,453 I was walking down Dorothy. 142 00:06:54,483 --> 00:06:57,073 As I approached the corner of Dorothy and Bundy, 143 00:06:57,100 --> 00:07:00,130 I saw that there was a dog at the corner. 144 00:07:00,166 --> 00:07:02,476 It was a large Akita, very white. 145 00:07:03,016 --> 00:07:06,076 The dog Steven Schwab found loose is Nicole's dog. 146 00:07:06,116 --> 00:07:10,146 He ends up turning it over to his neighbor, Sukru Boztepe. 147 00:07:10,183 --> 00:07:12,123 Anything on it that you saw? 148 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,150 There was red spots on the dog. 149 00:07:19,183 --> 00:07:21,023 And what did that red spots look like -- 150 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:22,450 those red spots look like to you? 151 00:07:22,483 --> 00:07:24,003 Blood. 152 00:07:24,033 --> 00:07:27,133 We decided to take the dog for a walk, 153 00:07:27,166 --> 00:07:30,296 and actually we just let the dog lead us. 154 00:07:30,333 --> 00:07:34,333 I turned right and looked exact the same direction 155 00:07:34,366 --> 00:07:37,476 what the dog was looking. 156 00:07:38,016 --> 00:07:39,326 And what did you see? 157 00:07:39,366 --> 00:07:41,276 I seen a body. 158 00:07:41,316 --> 00:07:45,366 It was woman laying down horizontally 159 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,270 all the way to the path. 160 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:49,000 There was a lot of blood. 161 00:07:49,033 --> 00:07:50,303 What did you do? 162 00:07:50,333 --> 00:07:53,223 I told my wife that there is a dead person there 163 00:07:53,250 --> 00:07:55,100 and, "You should call 911." 164 00:07:55,133 --> 00:07:56,223 The next morning I woke up, 165 00:07:56,250 --> 00:08:00,170 and 6:15 in the morning, we got a phone call. 166 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,170 Who took the call? 167 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,220 My mother did, but all of a sudden 168 00:08:04,250 --> 00:08:06,270 I hear a scream, and I run back there, 169 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:09,000 and she said, "Nicole has been killed. 170 00:08:09,033 --> 00:08:10,303 Nicole has been murdered." 171 00:08:10,333 --> 00:08:14,423 ♪♪ 172 00:08:14,450 --> 00:08:17,270 There was obviously a very violent struggle. 173 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:19,120 The horror of what really happened 174 00:08:19,150 --> 00:08:21,270 cannot be explained in words. 175 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:24,280 Hill: I could see blood on the sidewalk, 176 00:08:24,316 --> 00:08:27,076 and I thought to myself, "That's a lot of blood." 177 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,350 Reporter: The quiet community of Brentwood is not very quiet now. 178 00:08:35,383 --> 00:08:38,123 Crowds of the curious gathered to look at a murder scene 179 00:08:38,150 --> 00:08:40,470 where O.J. Simpson's ex-wife, Nicole, 180 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,020 and a 25-year-old apparent friend, 181 00:08:43,050 --> 00:08:44,220 Ron Goldman, were killed. 182 00:08:44,250 --> 00:08:46,080 The horror of what really happened 183 00:08:46,116 --> 00:08:48,146 cannot be explained in words. 184 00:08:48,183 --> 00:08:51,023 It's such a violent crime scene. 185 00:08:51,050 --> 00:08:52,420 It's such a bloody crime scene. 186 00:08:52,450 --> 00:08:55,230 I'm terrified. I'm terrified. It's frightening. 187 00:08:55,266 --> 00:08:58,126 There was obviously a very violent struggle. 188 00:08:58,166 --> 00:09:00,446 It was evident that there were numerous slashing 189 00:09:00,483 --> 00:09:02,273 and stabbing wounds. 190 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:05,080 Reporter: Is it important that you talk to Mr. Simpson at this point? 191 00:09:05,116 --> 00:09:06,466 Are you looking to talk to him? Yes. 192 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,350 We have already contacted him. 193 00:09:08,383 --> 00:09:13,073 Simpson was already on his way to Chicago. 194 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:16,150 Once he was contacted the following morning, he returned. 195 00:09:16,183 --> 00:09:19,003 Reporter: When contacted by police about his wife's death, 196 00:09:19,033 --> 00:09:22,373 authorities say Simpson returned to Los Angeles voluntarily. 197 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,050 We interviewed him probably 11 to 12 hours 198 00:09:27,083 --> 00:09:28,383 after the murders occurred. 199 00:09:28,416 --> 00:09:32,416 At that time, he was not a suspect. 200 00:09:32,450 --> 00:09:34,450 Moret: I was at the CNN bureau. 201 00:09:34,483 --> 00:09:38,173 The bureau chief at the time came into our department 202 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,100 and asked what sounds like a crazy question, 203 00:09:41,133 --> 00:09:42,323 but it was an honest question. 204 00:09:42,350 --> 00:09:45,280 He said, "Do you think this is going to be a big news story 205 00:09:45,316 --> 00:09:47,276 or a big entertainment story?" 206 00:09:47,316 --> 00:09:50,426 And I said, "Both." 207 00:09:50,466 --> 00:09:53,466 The big question was, following the first 48 208 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,170 to 72 hours after the murders, 209 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,380 was O.J. a suspect? 210 00:09:59,416 --> 00:10:01,166 Moret: People loved him. 211 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,100 So I think the public didn't want to believe early on 212 00:10:04,133 --> 00:10:08,153 that O.J. Simpson could be responsible for this. 213 00:10:08,183 --> 00:10:09,433 Oh, I'm shocked and mortified. 214 00:10:09,466 --> 00:10:13,166 It's very hard to believe because he is such a gentleman 215 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,380 and such a very mellow person. 216 00:10:15,416 --> 00:10:17,416 I mean, it just seemed, like, so out of character 217 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:19,420 from anything you had ever heard about the man. 218 00:10:19,450 --> 00:10:22,270 It just didn't seem possible. 219 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:27,350 People forget how wildly popular he was. 220 00:10:27,383 --> 00:10:29,133 He was like a Beatle. 221 00:10:29,166 --> 00:10:34,116 Crowd: USA! USA! USA! 222 00:10:34,150 --> 00:10:36,100 He could do no wrong. 223 00:10:36,133 --> 00:10:39,233 He was charming, handsome, charismatic. 224 00:10:39,266 --> 00:10:42,316 People were just in love with him. 225 00:10:42,350 --> 00:10:45,100 Reporter: The friendly, likable O.J. 226 00:10:45,133 --> 00:10:46,423 had been America's image of man nicknamed the Juice. 227 00:10:46,450 --> 00:10:48,050 I'll show you how smart I am. 228 00:10:48,083 --> 00:10:49,203 I'm dating my ex-wife. 229 00:10:49,233 --> 00:10:53,433 Watts: O.J. Simpson, the celebrity African-American 230 00:10:53,466 --> 00:10:59,296 that transcended race, this NFL legend and superstar. 231 00:10:59,333 --> 00:11:01,173 Reporter: A star running back at USC, 232 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,050 the Buffalo Bills drafted him in the first round in 1969. 233 00:11:05,083 --> 00:11:07,223 He finished his career as the second leading rusher 234 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:08,450 in NFL history 235 00:11:08,483 --> 00:11:12,273 and was inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1985. 236 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:15,220 Who didn't respect O.J. growing up? 237 00:11:15,250 --> 00:11:17,450 Who didn't run up and down this field as a football player 238 00:11:17,483 --> 00:11:19,023 when they were little and say, 239 00:11:19,050 --> 00:11:20,380 "Hey, I'm O.J. Simpson," you know? 240 00:11:20,416 --> 00:11:21,446 "I'm the Juice." 241 00:11:21,483 --> 00:11:26,303 O.J. Simpson was a true celebrity. 242 00:11:26,333 --> 00:11:27,433 Mind over matter -- 243 00:11:27,466 --> 00:11:30,176 You wouldn't look at him and think he was a great talent, 244 00:11:30,216 --> 00:11:33,146 he was a great athlete, but he was very likable. 245 00:11:33,183 --> 00:11:37,423 O.J. was the first African-American athlete 246 00:11:37,450 --> 00:11:41,250 to receive major commercial endorsement 247 00:11:41,283 --> 00:11:42,333 in the United States. 248 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:45,420 Go, O.J., go! 249 00:11:45,450 --> 00:11:47,380 Reporter: After his retirement from pro football, 250 00:11:47,416 --> 00:11:49,996 he became a spokesperson for Hertz Rent a Car. 251 00:11:50,033 --> 00:11:51,453 Ever need to rent a car fast? 252 00:11:51,483 --> 00:11:55,223 ♪ Nobody does it better ♪ 253 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:58,270 That's how I knew O.J. Simpson. 254 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:01,300 I knew this guy who was flying through the airports 255 00:12:01,333 --> 00:12:04,223 for Hertz in the commercials all over the place, 256 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:07,150 and I knew the guy who was, you know, in the movies. 257 00:12:07,183 --> 00:12:10,123 I knew him more of an entertainment star 258 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:12,050 as opposed to a sports figure. 259 00:12:12,083 --> 00:12:15,233 O.J. actually started his movie career 260 00:12:15,266 --> 00:12:19,016 when he was still an active football player in the NFL. 261 00:12:19,050 --> 00:12:21,230 "The Naked Gun" trilogy, everyone, of course, 262 00:12:21,266 --> 00:12:22,476 remembers that one. 263 00:12:23,016 --> 00:12:24,026 -Nordberg! -How are you, buddy? 264 00:12:24,066 --> 00:12:25,066 Hey! 265 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:26,400 Hey, doc says I should be on my feet 266 00:12:26,433 --> 00:12:28,023 and as good as new in a week. 267 00:12:28,050 --> 00:12:29,170 And back on the force. 268 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,430 Nordberg, that's wonderful. 269 00:12:32,466 --> 00:12:34,376 -Whoa! -Oh, Frank. 270 00:12:34,416 --> 00:12:36,326 Everyone should have a friend like you. 271 00:12:36,366 --> 00:12:38,246 Oh! 272 00:12:40,133 --> 00:12:43,123 This is a person that loved to be adulated by people. 273 00:12:43,150 --> 00:12:46,030 This is a person who loved people coming up to him 274 00:12:46,066 --> 00:12:47,216 and loved people asking for autographs. 275 00:12:47,250 --> 00:12:50,170 Crowd: O.J.! O.J.! 276 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,100 You couldn't help but notice O.J. Simpson. 277 00:12:53,133 --> 00:12:56,383 You noticed him because he was that kind of a presence. 278 00:12:56,416 --> 00:12:58,126 He was magnetic. 279 00:12:58,166 --> 00:12:59,296 Velez-Mitchell: People don't want to believe 280 00:12:59,333 --> 00:13:01,223 that a guy that likable, 281 00:13:01,250 --> 00:13:05,000 that handsome, that charming, that charismatic, 282 00:13:05,033 --> 00:13:07,253 they don't want to believe somebody that perfect 283 00:13:07,283 --> 00:13:09,133 can be so awful. 284 00:13:09,166 --> 00:13:11,216 You're a good guy. Thank you, Larry. 285 00:13:11,250 --> 00:13:13,420 Soles: O.J. Simpson, he's an American sports hero, 286 00:13:13,450 --> 00:13:16,230 a movie star, a commercial pitchman, 287 00:13:16,266 --> 00:13:18,126 and a football broadcaster. 288 00:13:18,166 --> 00:13:21,226 Now he possibly could be a murder suspect. 289 00:13:21,266 --> 00:13:23,116 Watts: Police will tell you in their mind 290 00:13:23,150 --> 00:13:26,300 that O.J. was the only suspect, 291 00:13:26,333 --> 00:13:29,433 but publicly, he was being described 292 00:13:29,466 --> 00:13:31,276 as a person of interest. 293 00:13:31,316 --> 00:13:33,176 Reporter: Is he a suspect? 294 00:13:33,216 --> 00:13:35,076 I can't comment on that right now. 295 00:13:35,116 --> 00:13:37,066 Can you talk about the evidence you have uncovered in there? 296 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:38,070 Excuse me. 297 00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:39,230 It became evident, however, 298 00:13:39,266 --> 00:13:41,276 that he was a possible suspect 299 00:13:41,316 --> 00:13:46,146 when we viewed his left hand was bleeding. 300 00:13:46,183 --> 00:13:49,023 We knew that the suspect was bleeding at the scene, 301 00:13:49,050 --> 00:13:51,250 whoever that might be. 302 00:13:51,283 --> 00:13:53,173 I said, "I don't know if this is, like, a big thing, 303 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,320 but I heard these thumps," 304 00:13:54,350 --> 00:13:56,480 these boom, boom, boom, and the picture moved. 305 00:13:57,016 --> 00:14:00,196 Lange: Fuhrman followed up on that, as he well should have, 306 00:14:00,233 --> 00:14:03,133 on what these thumps may or may not have been. 307 00:14:03,166 --> 00:14:05,166 Toobin: Once they find the glove, 308 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,270 the detectives really start to investigate 309 00:14:08,300 --> 00:14:11,100 what's going on at Rockingham. 310 00:14:11,133 --> 00:14:16,003 And O.J. Simpson goes from a victim, 311 00:14:16,033 --> 00:14:18,173 or the spouse of the victim, 312 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,000 to a person of interest or a suspect. 313 00:14:25,133 --> 00:14:26,303 Reporter: Day one, Monday -- 314 00:14:26,333 --> 00:14:29,273 The bodies of 35-year-old Nicole Brown Simpson 315 00:14:29,300 --> 00:14:32,380 and 25-year-old Ronald Goldman are found outside 316 00:14:32,416 --> 00:14:35,176 Nicole Simpson's Los Angeles condominium. 317 00:14:35,216 --> 00:14:41,016 ♪♪ 318 00:14:41,050 --> 00:14:43,050 It was after midnight 319 00:14:43,083 --> 00:14:47,353 when the police finally arrived at the crime scene. 320 00:14:47,383 --> 00:14:51,033 I could see blood on the sidewalk, 321 00:14:51,066 --> 00:14:56,316 but I noticed blood coming down the grout channels 322 00:14:56,350 --> 00:14:59,280 between the tiles, and I thought to myself, 323 00:14:59,316 --> 00:15:00,416 "That's a lot of blood." 324 00:15:00,450 --> 00:15:04,020 Nicole was found on the steps. 325 00:15:04,050 --> 00:15:08,320 Her feet were beneath the wrought-iron fence, 326 00:15:08,350 --> 00:15:10,050 beneath the mailbox. 327 00:15:10,083 --> 00:15:14,123 Ron Goldman's body was found sprawled on the ground. 328 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:16,400 There was obviously a very violent struggle. 329 00:15:16,433 --> 00:15:18,173 The first patrolman on the scene 330 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,020 was actually a very astute observer of what went on. 331 00:15:23,050 --> 00:15:24,450 He saw the watch cap. 332 00:15:24,483 --> 00:15:28,403 He saw the envelope that contained the glasses. 333 00:15:28,433 --> 00:15:31,233 He saw the bloody footprints. 334 00:15:31,266 --> 00:15:34,176 He saw a lot of the key evidence in the case, 335 00:15:34,216 --> 00:15:37,216 and he didn't disturb it. 336 00:15:37,250 --> 00:15:41,230 Velez-Mitchell: O.J.'s kids were left inside the condo 337 00:15:41,266 --> 00:15:44,246 with their mother 338 00:15:44,283 --> 00:15:46,423 in a pool of blood right outside the condo. 339 00:15:46,450 --> 00:15:48,370 Certainly one of the most heartbreaking parts 340 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,120 of this whole story 341 00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:51,430 was that on the night of the murder, 342 00:15:51,466 --> 00:15:52,996 Sydney and Justin, 343 00:15:53,033 --> 00:15:55,083 the young children of O.J. and Nicole, 344 00:15:55,116 --> 00:15:58,146 were taken out of their bedrooms on Bundy 345 00:15:58,183 --> 00:16:00,123 and taken to a police station. 346 00:16:00,150 --> 00:16:05,300 And while they're there, Sydney calls their home 347 00:16:05,333 --> 00:16:07,203 trying to reach her mother, 348 00:16:07,233 --> 00:16:09,383 and she leaves a heartbreaking message. 349 00:16:09,416 --> 00:16:12,216 She says, "Please answer, Mommy. Please answer. 350 00:16:12,250 --> 00:16:14,220 Why are we at the police station?" 351 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,450 And it's only later, of course, 352 00:16:15,483 --> 00:16:19,053 they're told that their mother is dead. 353 00:16:19,083 --> 00:16:21,473 Lange: Once we were able to identify Nicole Simpson, 354 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,450 we knew -- We found out that she was either married to 355 00:16:24,483 --> 00:16:29,123 or estranged from or possibly divorced from O.J. Simpson. 356 00:16:29,150 --> 00:16:31,030 The lead detectives, 357 00:16:31,066 --> 00:16:36,216 Detective Phil Vannatter and Tom Lange and Mark Fuhrman 358 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:42,300 and another detective, head over to the Rockingham estate. 359 00:16:42,333 --> 00:16:45,103 One of the big controversies in the trial 360 00:16:45,133 --> 00:16:47,473 was why did Vannatter and Fuhrman 361 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,120 leave the murder scene and go to O.J. Simpson's house 362 00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:55,330 within a few hours of the discovery of the bodies? 363 00:16:55,366 --> 00:16:58,276 It was our intention, myself and my partner, 364 00:16:58,316 --> 00:17:02,426 to go up there and meet Mr. Simpson so we could know him 365 00:17:02,466 --> 00:17:06,396 and ultimately interview him regarding this murder. 366 00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:08,223 Toobin: Vannatter and Fuhrman claimed 367 00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:10,120 that they went to O.J.'s house 368 00:17:10,150 --> 00:17:14,100 to inform O.J. that his ex-wife had been killed. 369 00:17:14,133 --> 00:17:17,323 The defense claimed that Vannatter and Fuhrman 370 00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:22,270 went to O.J.'s house to try to pin the murder on him 371 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:24,130 and ultimately, they assert, 372 00:17:24,166 --> 00:17:27,466 to plant evidence against O.J. at his own house. 373 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,280 Lange: Four detectives, myself included, 374 00:17:31,316 --> 00:17:34,126 took two vehicles over to the Rockingham location 375 00:17:34,166 --> 00:17:36,426 to notify Simpson about the murders 376 00:17:36,466 --> 00:17:40,396 and to interview him. 377 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:45,383 Vannatter: I observed a white Bronco parked at the east curb 378 00:17:45,416 --> 00:17:49,346 just north of the Rockingham gate. 379 00:17:49,383 --> 00:17:54,083 I walked around and looked at the Bronco parked there. 380 00:17:54,116 --> 00:17:56,296 Detective Fuhrman was already at the Bronco. 381 00:17:56,333 --> 00:18:00,153 Detective Fuhrman identified what appeared to be blood 382 00:18:00,183 --> 00:18:03,233 on the outside of O.J. Simpson's Bronco. 383 00:18:03,266 --> 00:18:05,466 Fuhrman: As I was walking past the vehicle, 384 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,480 I noticed a small spot above the door handle 385 00:18:09,016 --> 00:18:11,016 of the driver's side of the vehicle. 386 00:18:11,050 --> 00:18:13,020 They see the blood on the Bronco and they think, 387 00:18:13,050 --> 00:18:15,180 "Wow, maybe there's another victim here." 388 00:18:15,216 --> 00:18:17,246 So they're, at that point, 389 00:18:17,283 --> 00:18:20,373 concerned O.J. might have been a victim, 390 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,480 but then they go inside the property. 391 00:18:24,016 --> 00:18:26,016 Lange: At this point, I'm thinking we possibly 392 00:18:26,050 --> 00:18:28,100 we have other victims inside. 393 00:18:28,133 --> 00:18:31,023 It was at that point Fuhrman went over the wall. 394 00:18:31,050 --> 00:18:33,230 I jumped the wall just to the left 395 00:18:33,266 --> 00:18:39,026 or east of the Ashford gate, landed on the other side, 396 00:18:39,066 --> 00:18:42,046 came around, let the other detectives into the location. 397 00:18:42,083 --> 00:18:46,123 After Fuhrman jumps the fence, opens the door, 398 00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:47,400 and the detectives start 399 00:18:47,433 --> 00:18:49,483 knocking on doors at the property, 400 00:18:50,016 --> 00:18:53,066 the first person who answers is Kato Kaelin. 401 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:58,250 When Fuhrman interviewed Kato Kaelin, 402 00:18:58,283 --> 00:19:00,233 Kato mentioned that he was on the phone with his girlfriend, 403 00:19:00,266 --> 00:19:01,396 lying in bed. 404 00:19:01,433 --> 00:19:03,473 I said, "I don't know if this is, like, a big thing, 405 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,080 but I heard these thumps," 406 00:19:05,116 --> 00:19:08,116 these boom, boom, boom, and the picture moved, 407 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:09,200 and when the picture moved, I said, 408 00:19:09,233 --> 00:19:11,033 "I think we just had an earthquake." 409 00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:12,366 It's back behind this wall, 410 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,480 and that's where they found the glove. 411 00:19:15,016 --> 00:19:18,216 Lange: Fuhrman followed up on that, as he well should have, 412 00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:21,120 on what these thumps may or may not have been. 413 00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:24,220 Fuhrman: I continued walking down the path, 414 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:28,230 and when I got approximately 15 or 20 feet away, 415 00:19:28,266 --> 00:19:31,266 I saw a dark object. 416 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:34,380 It appeared a dark leather glove. 417 00:19:34,416 --> 00:19:37,416 It appeared to be somewhat moist or sticky. 418 00:19:37,450 --> 00:19:40,320 It appeared that parts were sticking 419 00:19:40,350 --> 00:19:42,480 to other parts of the glove. 420 00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:46,326 Once they find the glove, the detectives really start 421 00:19:46,366 --> 00:19:50,346 to investigate what's going on at Rockingham. 422 00:19:55,016 --> 00:19:56,476 Lange: Right about the same time, 423 00:19:57,016 --> 00:19:59,026 the sun is coming up, 424 00:19:59,066 --> 00:20:04,996 and several people observe what appears to be a blood trail 425 00:20:05,033 --> 00:20:08,373 from the rear of the Bronco at the Rockingham gate 426 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,230 tailing from the rear of the Bronco, 427 00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:15,046 in through the gate, up towards the front. 428 00:20:15,083 --> 00:20:16,373 Reporter: Are those blood spots in the driveway? 429 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,180 Be careful. 430 00:20:18,216 --> 00:20:21,296 Toobin: Phil Vannatter finds drops of blood, 431 00:20:21,333 --> 00:20:25,023 drops of fresh blood on the walkway 432 00:20:25,050 --> 00:20:29,080 and in the foyer of O.J. Simpson's house. 433 00:20:29,116 --> 00:20:31,026 At this time, the decision was made 434 00:20:31,066 --> 00:20:33,996 to declare this a crime scene. 435 00:20:34,033 --> 00:20:37,003 When that happens, you vacate everybody from the home. 436 00:20:37,033 --> 00:20:40,083 It was decided that Phil would get a search warrant, 437 00:20:40,116 --> 00:20:42,446 which we would have needed at that particular point. 438 00:20:44,083 --> 00:20:46,203 Reporter: My question was, is O.J. Simpson a suspect? 439 00:20:46,233 --> 00:20:48,123 Well, obviously we're not going to rule anybody out. 440 00:20:48,150 --> 00:20:51,480 Watts: Ronald Goldman was 441 00:20:52,016 --> 00:20:54,196 a self-defense-trained person 442 00:20:54,233 --> 00:20:56,383 20 years younger than O.J. Simpson, 443 00:20:56,416 --> 00:21:00,096 but he had 24 different wounds and cuts 444 00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:02,283 and scratches on his hands. 445 00:21:02,316 --> 00:21:04,326 The criminal made a mess of the crime scene. 446 00:21:04,366 --> 00:21:06,276 I mean, there was blood everywhere. 447 00:21:06,316 --> 00:21:08,476 If O.J. carried out these murders, 448 00:21:09,016 --> 00:21:11,426 why was there not more blood in O.J.'s Bronco? 449 00:21:17,033 --> 00:21:19,323 Welcome back to "How It Really Happened." 450 00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:21,220 Homicide investigators regularly talk 451 00:21:21,250 --> 00:21:23,370 to close family members of murder victims, 452 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,450 so as expected, LAPD detectives wanted to question O.J. 453 00:21:27,483 --> 00:21:31,273 O.J. fans offered their idol total support. 454 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:34,020 They wondered "Wasn't O.J. on a business trip to Chicago 455 00:21:34,050 --> 00:21:35,270 when all this happened?" 456 00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:37,480 And also, they refused to believe O.J. 457 00:21:38,016 --> 00:21:39,426 could have murdered his ex-wife 458 00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:42,226 while his children slept inside. 459 00:21:42,266 --> 00:21:43,416 Was O.J. Simpson the victim of 460 00:21:43,450 --> 00:21:46,430 a law and order rush to judgment? 461 00:21:46,466 --> 00:21:49,026 On one hand, he appeared to be a grieving husband 462 00:21:49,066 --> 00:21:52,116 to a murdered ex-wife, and on the other, 463 00:21:52,150 --> 00:21:54,230 a person of growing interest to investigators waiting for 464 00:21:54,266 --> 00:21:57,066 O.J.'s return from Chicago. 465 00:21:59,150 --> 00:22:00,370 Soles: Los Angeles police have been talking 466 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,180 to go former pro football star O.J. Simpson today 467 00:22:03,216 --> 00:22:04,476 after the death of his ex-wife 468 00:22:05,016 --> 00:22:07,076 and a 26-year-old man early this morning. 469 00:22:07,116 --> 00:22:09,346 We wanted to interview him as the spouse, 470 00:22:09,383 --> 00:22:11,253 or the former spouse. 471 00:22:11,283 --> 00:22:14,053 This is where you start an investigation 472 00:22:14,083 --> 00:22:15,323 if there's no eyewitnesses. 473 00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:17,380 Reporter: My question was, is O.J. Simpson a suspect? 474 00:22:17,416 --> 00:22:19,316 Well, obviously we're not going to rule anyone out, 475 00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:22,070 and we will pursue whoever we need to pursue 476 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:25,180 until we bring the party to justice. 477 00:22:25,216 --> 00:22:28,116 Have you been told you're under arrest, O.J.? 478 00:22:28,150 --> 00:22:30,050 When you talk to detectives, 479 00:22:30,083 --> 00:22:33,373 they will tell you that they look for evidence, 480 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,430 some of it exonerating, some of it implicating. 481 00:22:36,466 --> 00:22:40,416 In this case, detectives said all the evidence 482 00:22:40,450 --> 00:22:44,350 Pointed in one direction, toward one person -- 483 00:22:44,383 --> 00:22:47,283 O.J. Simpson. 484 00:22:47,316 --> 00:22:48,426 Reporter: Police found blood on 485 00:22:48,466 --> 00:22:51,146 and inside Simpson's white Ford Bronco, 486 00:22:51,183 --> 00:22:54,103 on his driveway, and in two of his bathrooms. 487 00:22:54,133 --> 00:22:57,033 They also a bloody glove containing bleach-blonde hairs 488 00:22:57,066 --> 00:22:59,216 that may match a glove found at the crime scene. 489 00:23:04,450 --> 00:23:07,250 It looked like a rock-solid case. 490 00:23:07,283 --> 00:23:11,233 It just never totally added up for me. 491 00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:13,316 So I'm very glad I was able to be here 492 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:14,400 and spend this time with you 493 00:23:14,433 --> 00:23:16,373 because God knows where I'll be in a year. 494 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:22,000 Ron Goldman and O.J. Simpson are exactly the same height. 495 00:23:22,033 --> 00:23:28,203 Ronald Goldman was a self-defense-trained person, 496 00:23:28,233 --> 00:23:32,073 20 years younger than O.J. Simpson, 497 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:35,070 but he had 24 different wounds and cuts 498 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:38,480 and scratches on his hands, so-called defense wounds, 499 00:23:39,016 --> 00:23:42,126 and the perpetrator of that crime would have, 500 00:23:42,166 --> 00:23:46,366 I thought, had more scratches, cuts, or bruises. 501 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,450 And when O.J. Simpson came back in town and he was examined 502 00:23:49,483 --> 00:23:54,233 by the Los Angeles police department on June 13th, 503 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:58,396 all he had on his entire body scratch-wise, bruise-wise, 504 00:23:58,433 --> 00:24:06,053 cut-wise was just a cut on one of his fingers on his left hand. 505 00:24:06,083 --> 00:24:09,403 And furthermore, the criminal made a mess of the crime scene. 506 00:24:09,433 --> 00:24:11,303 I mean, there was blood everywhere. 507 00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:15,333 This killer must have exited the scene with blood all over, 508 00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:21,096 and we could never understand why in O.J.'s Bronco 509 00:24:21,133 --> 00:24:25,403 there wasn't more blood on the floorboard, 510 00:24:25,433 --> 00:24:29,133 on the console, on the steering wheel, 511 00:24:29,166 --> 00:24:31,266 and other parts of the vehicle as well. 512 00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:32,450 As we know, there were 513 00:24:32,483 --> 00:24:35,483 voluminous amounts of blood at Bundy Drive, 514 00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:38,216 the crime scene, voluminous amounts. 515 00:24:38,250 --> 00:24:41,100 At Rockingham, at O.J.'s home, there were very little. 516 00:24:41,133 --> 00:24:46,173 There were four or five little drops found in the driveway. 517 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,230 If O.J. carried out these murders, 518 00:24:48,266 --> 00:24:51,326 why was there not more blood? 519 00:24:51,366 --> 00:24:54,296 Reporter: Chicago police scoured an overgrown field 520 00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:57,053 near the hotel where O.J. Simpson stayed 521 00:24:57,083 --> 00:24:58,283 after leaving Los Angeles the night of the killings. 522 00:24:58,316 --> 00:25:00,046 Reporter 2: Later in the week, police searched a vacant lot 523 00:25:00,083 --> 00:25:02,003 beside the Chicago hotel, 524 00:25:02,033 --> 00:25:04,123 reportedly looking for a murder weapon. 525 00:25:04,150 --> 00:25:07,130 Christian: They looked high and mighty for that knife. 526 00:25:07,166 --> 00:25:08,416 They looked on the plane that he flew 527 00:25:08,450 --> 00:25:10,280 to Chicago in that night. 528 00:25:10,316 --> 00:25:14,466 They looked in wall cavities in the hotel room 529 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,180 that he stayed in that night. 530 00:25:16,216 --> 00:25:18,196 They looked everywhere. 531 00:25:18,233 --> 00:25:20,153 They never found the knife. 532 00:25:22,083 --> 00:25:25,283 Robert Kardashian -- We know that he walked out 533 00:25:25,316 --> 00:25:29,396 of O.J.'s Rockingham estate with a bulging garment bag 534 00:25:29,433 --> 00:25:33,083 the day after the murders. 535 00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:35,026 I have nothing to hide and -- 536 00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:38,446 Who would do that not wondering, "Am I carrying out evidence? 537 00:25:38,483 --> 00:25:40,183 Am I carrying out the murder weapon? 538 00:25:40,216 --> 00:25:42,166 Am I carrying out the bloody clothes?" 539 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,470 Reporter: Deputy DA Christopher Darden said back in August, 540 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,350 he warned Kardashian not to disturb the bag or its contents. 541 00:25:48,383 --> 00:25:52,233 When the luggage was returned to court, it was empty. 542 00:25:52,266 --> 00:25:56,076 Christian: Robert Kardashian was in a very unique situation 543 00:25:56,116 --> 00:25:57,416 because he was not only O.J.'s friend, 544 00:25:57,450 --> 00:26:00,200 but he was one of his attorneys. 545 00:26:00,233 --> 00:26:04,153 Now, prosecutors wanted to question him 546 00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:05,403 about this garment bag, 547 00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:08,053 what might have been in the garment bag. 548 00:26:08,083 --> 00:26:10,423 Unfortunately for them, 549 00:26:10,450 --> 00:26:13,130 you can claim attorney-client privilege, 550 00:26:13,166 --> 00:26:15,166 so prosecutors never were able 551 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,280 to question Kardashian about that. 552 00:26:18,316 --> 00:26:20,096 So we just don't know, at this point, 553 00:26:20,133 --> 00:26:21,323 what's in it or what was in it. 554 00:26:26,133 --> 00:26:30,333 Reporter: Goldman was buried on Thursday by his grief-stricken family. 555 00:26:30,366 --> 00:26:32,296 I love my son dearly. 556 00:26:34,316 --> 00:26:36,476 And we're going to miss him a lot. 557 00:26:37,016 --> 00:26:39,216 And we'll miss him. 558 00:26:39,250 --> 00:26:43,180 That same day, O.J. Simpson and his two children by Nicole 559 00:26:43,216 --> 00:26:44,366 went to her funeral. 560 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,300 Reporter 2: Simpson's new attorney, Robert Shapiro, 561 00:26:46,333 --> 00:26:48,023 was also there, 562 00:26:48,050 --> 00:26:50,120 along with notables such as former Olympic star 563 00:26:50,150 --> 00:26:53,270 Bruce Jenner and Steve Garvey, a former L.A. Dodger. 564 00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:57,270 I can't believe that someone could be so evil and cruel 565 00:26:57,300 --> 00:26:59,170 and do something like this. 566 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,150 Reporter: No one had been arrested for the murders, 567 00:27:01,183 --> 00:27:03,133 but reporters quoted police sources 568 00:27:03,166 --> 00:27:05,476 who said Simpson was their suspect. 569 00:27:06,016 --> 00:27:09,396 King: Is the new media watch word guilty until proven innocent? 570 00:27:09,433 --> 00:27:14,203 Is O.J. Simpson's image changed for good in a single day? 571 00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:16,473 McKenzie: He said to me, he says, 572 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,000 "Can you imagine that they think I did something like this?" 573 00:27:22,033 --> 00:27:23,303 And I said, "Man, you're right." 574 00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:24,453 I couldn't imagine it. 575 00:27:24,483 --> 00:27:28,453 I said, "It's people that don't know O.J. Simpson." 576 00:27:28,483 --> 00:27:31,403 The AP is reporting that murder charges 577 00:27:31,433 --> 00:27:34,183 were filed today against O.J. Simpson. 578 00:27:34,216 --> 00:27:38,066 The Los Angeles police department right now 579 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:42,380 is actively searching for Mr. Simpson. 580 00:27:42,416 --> 00:27:47,296 King: Police believe that O.J. Simpson is in that car. 581 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:52,053 Okay. Police believe he is in that vehicle. 582 00:27:52,083 --> 00:27:55,453 Toobin: During the Bronco chase, everyone in America knew 583 00:27:55,483 --> 00:27:59,373 O.J. was in that car and possibly suicidal. 584 00:28:12,250 --> 00:28:13,420 We want to tell you that -- 585 00:28:13,450 --> 00:28:16,120 Something that is just now crossing the wires right now, 586 00:28:16,150 --> 00:28:17,220 and I'm looking at the computer. 587 00:28:17,250 --> 00:28:20,180 The AP is reporting that murder charges 588 00:28:20,216 --> 00:28:22,426 were filed today against O.J. Simpson 589 00:28:22,466 --> 00:28:26,316 in the slayings of his ex-wife and the male friend. 590 00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:28,200 Gascon: This morning, detectives from 591 00:28:28,233 --> 00:28:30,273 the Los Angeles police department 592 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:34,430 sought and obtained a warrant for the arrest of O.J. Simpson, 593 00:28:34,466 --> 00:28:38,996 charging him with the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson 594 00:28:39,033 --> 00:28:41,303 and Ronald Lyle Goldman. 595 00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:45,333 Christian: As part of Robert Shapiro's duties as O.J.'s attorney, 596 00:28:45,366 --> 00:28:47,126 O.J. Simpson's attorney, 597 00:28:47,166 --> 00:28:50,316 he makes a deal with the prosecutor's office 598 00:28:50,350 --> 00:28:55,230 that Mr. Simpson will turn himself in at a certain time. 599 00:28:55,266 --> 00:28:59,066 When the time came, he was gone. 600 00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:02,080 Mr. Simpson, 601 00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:06,226 in agreement with his attorney, 602 00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:08,396 was scheduled to surrender this morning 603 00:29:08,433 --> 00:29:11,153 to the Los Angeles police department. 604 00:29:11,183 --> 00:29:14,453 Initially, that was 11:00. 605 00:29:14,483 --> 00:29:18,033 It then became 11:45. 606 00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:21,266 The Los Angeles police department right now 607 00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:26,070 is actively searching for Mr. Simpson. 608 00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,150 Man: Whoo! 609 00:29:27,183 --> 00:29:29,423 The most wondered-about man in America 610 00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:31,370 has gone missing tonight. 611 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,480 He apparently disappeared from under the noses 612 00:29:34,016 --> 00:29:36,346 of his lawyers and doctors this afternoon, 613 00:29:36,383 --> 00:29:38,383 dodged an arranged surrender, 614 00:29:38,416 --> 00:29:41,076 and vanished into the Los Angeles haze. 615 00:29:43,416 --> 00:29:50,066 If you in any way are assisting Mr. Simpson in avoiding justice, 616 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,150 Mr. Simpson is a fugitive of justice right now. 617 00:29:57,066 --> 00:30:02,366 O.J., wherever you are, for the sake of your family, 618 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,070 for the sake of your children, 619 00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:09,130 please surrender immediately. 620 00:30:09,166 --> 00:30:13,296 Robert Kardashian found a note from O.J. 621 00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:16,303 Kardashian: "First, everyone understand 622 00:30:16,333 --> 00:30:21,353 I have nothing to do with Nicole's murder. 623 00:30:21,383 --> 00:30:26,333 I loved her, always have, and always will. 624 00:30:26,366 --> 00:30:29,996 Don't feel sorry for me. 625 00:30:30,033 --> 00:30:34,073 I've had a great life, great friends. 626 00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,150 Please think of the real O.J. 627 00:30:37,183 --> 00:30:40,053 and not this lost person." 628 00:30:40,083 --> 00:30:43,423 I am very confident we're going to find O.J. Simpson 629 00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:46,370 because this is a man who can't hide too easily. 630 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,220 I mean, his face is well-known 631 00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:50,450 to millions of people throughout the world. 632 00:30:53,316 --> 00:30:57,246 It was a few hours later that the white Bronco, 633 00:30:57,283 --> 00:31:00,003 O.J. Simpson's car, 634 00:31:00,033 --> 00:31:02,433 was spotted in Orange County at that time. 635 00:31:02,466 --> 00:31:04,046 I understand we're going to go 636 00:31:04,083 --> 00:31:07,323 to a live picture in Los Angeles. 637 00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:08,370 Is that correct? 638 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,270 Okay. This is Interstate 5, 639 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:13,370 and this is courtesy of KCALR, 640 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,130 one of our L.A. affiliates. 641 00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:17,196 Police believe that -- 642 00:31:17,233 --> 00:31:19,023 King: It's hard to believe it's 20 years. 643 00:31:19,050 --> 00:31:20,250 Damn. 644 00:31:20,283 --> 00:31:22,073 That car chase, I was on the air 645 00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:25,200 for whole 2, 2 1/2 hours of that. 646 00:31:25,233 --> 00:31:29,373 Police believe that O.J. Simpson is in the car. 647 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,170 Half the police force is following him on the road, 648 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,450 and people are waving him on. 649 00:31:34,483 --> 00:31:38,073 You couldn't sell this as fiction. 650 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,150 Now they're telling me that they believe that this vehicle 651 00:31:41,183 --> 00:31:45,123 is registered to Al Cowlings, one of O.J.'s oldest friends, 652 00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:47,100 a teammate at Southern Cal. 653 00:31:47,133 --> 00:31:48,203 Cowlings: This is A.C. 654 00:32:01,233 --> 00:32:03,073 Toobin: During the Bronco chase, 655 00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:07,120 everyone in America knew O.J. was in that car 656 00:32:07,150 --> 00:32:09,030 and possibly suicidal. 657 00:32:17,150 --> 00:32:18,330 Dispatch: Okay. 658 00:32:18,366 --> 00:32:23,146 O.J. Simpson talked by the phone 659 00:32:23,183 --> 00:32:24,423 with one of the police detectives. 660 00:32:44,050 --> 00:32:47,420 As far down as you could see, people were lining the highway. 661 00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:50,350 Woman: Go, O.J.! 662 00:32:52,316 --> 00:32:55,426 This looked like hundreds of people out of their cars, 663 00:32:55,466 --> 00:32:59,166 and getting farther and farther out into the roadway 664 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,170 to get a look at Al Cowlings and O.J. Simpson 665 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,120 and all those police cars as they went on by. 666 00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:09,180 Reporter: He's moving over now, Eric, moving over to the right, 667 00:33:09,216 --> 00:33:13,066 which means he may take that Sunset Boulevard off-ramp. 668 00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,400 Hill: At one point we figured, 669 00:33:14,433 --> 00:33:17,383 "Yes, he's going to head to Rockingham, 670 00:33:17,416 --> 00:33:20,166 O.J. Simpson's home, 671 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,080 where police are waiting for him." 672 00:33:22,116 --> 00:33:24,426 Reporter: All right. Tell me when we're up. 673 00:33:24,466 --> 00:33:28,326 [ Sirens wailing ] 674 00:33:28,366 --> 00:33:30,126 Moret: And at that last off-ramp, 675 00:33:30,166 --> 00:33:31,376 there were so many people there, 676 00:33:31,416 --> 00:33:33,376 and they had posters. "Go, O.J." 677 00:33:33,416 --> 00:33:36,226 "Free O.J." Whatever. "We love you, O.J." 678 00:33:36,266 --> 00:33:37,416 It was crazy. 679 00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:40,450 Officer: Stay head of him. We're going to his mansion. 680 00:33:40,483 --> 00:33:44,083 Moret: It was the worst possible scenario for the LAPD. 681 00:33:48,116 --> 00:33:50,016 Almost three hours after it started, 682 00:33:50,050 --> 00:33:52,450 it looked like the Bronco chase was finally coming to an end. 683 00:33:52,483 --> 00:33:57,333 Officer: Very close to the house now, very, very close. 684 00:33:57,366 --> 00:33:59,996 Christian: The police think, 685 00:34:00,033 --> 00:34:02,273 "Great, now we've got O.J. where we want him. 686 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,430 We can take him out of the car." No. 687 00:34:04,466 --> 00:34:08,166 O.J.'s oldest son runs up to the car. 688 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,120 Why? Because he's so upset. 689 00:34:10,150 --> 00:34:15,030 Jason, O.J.'s son from his first marriage, is yelling at the car. 690 00:34:15,066 --> 00:34:18,326 Spillman: Pulling up. Let me tell you. 691 00:34:18,366 --> 00:34:20,466 Moret: Police finally pull him away, 692 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,350 and they're trying to get a handle on this 693 00:34:23,383 --> 00:34:25,233 out-of-control situation, 694 00:34:25,266 --> 00:34:30,096 and they finally are able to negotiate with O.J. Simpson. 695 00:34:30,133 --> 00:34:31,273 Here's what we know right now -- 696 00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:33,020 Lieutenant Duncan has just come up here 697 00:34:33,050 --> 00:34:35,150 and told us that O.J. Simpson has surrendered. 698 00:34:35,183 --> 00:34:38,323 He has surrendered without incident. 699 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,370 O.J. may have surrendered, but the circus, the chaos, 700 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,000 the twists, the turns of this case were just beginning. 701 00:35:07,033 --> 00:35:08,483 Clarke: Mr. Orenthal James Simpson, 702 00:35:09,016 --> 00:35:11,026 you committed the crime of murder. 703 00:35:11,066 --> 00:35:13,996 Simpson: How could anybody say I could have killed Nicole? 704 00:35:18,183 --> 00:35:20,253 ♪♪ 705 00:35:20,283 --> 00:35:21,473 Clarke: Mr. Orenthal James Simpson, 706 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,050 is that your true name, sir? Yes. 707 00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:25,483 Reporter: O.J. Simpson looked tired and drawn 708 00:35:26,016 --> 00:35:28,376 as he was arraigned in Los Angeles Superior Court. 709 00:35:28,416 --> 00:35:29,476 Clarke: You committed the crime of murder 710 00:35:30,016 --> 00:35:34,396 in violation of penal code Section 187(A). 711 00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:36,403 Simpson: During those first nights in jail, 712 00:35:36,433 --> 00:35:41,023 I was so depressed not only about what was going on with me 713 00:35:41,050 --> 00:35:42,420 but imagining the pain of Nicole, 714 00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:44,350 the loss of Nicole. 715 00:35:44,383 --> 00:35:46,003 I was hurting. 716 00:35:46,033 --> 00:35:47,383 I was hurting real bad. 717 00:35:47,416 --> 00:35:50,396 How could anybody say I could have killed Nicole? 718 00:35:50,433 --> 00:35:52,323 How could anybody say that? 719 00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:55,370 I want to state unequivocally that I did not commit 720 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,350 these horrible crimes. 721 00:35:57,383 --> 00:36:01,003 The Simpson trial is still weeks or even months away, 722 00:36:01,033 --> 00:36:02,153 but the closely watched case 723 00:36:02,183 --> 00:36:04,323 continues to generate strong reaction 724 00:36:04,350 --> 00:36:06,130 from people all across the U.S. 725 00:36:06,166 --> 00:36:11,476 If you are white, you saw this through the eyes of, 726 00:36:12,016 --> 00:36:13,476 "Well, this is a cut-and-dry case. 727 00:36:14,016 --> 00:36:15,216 This is a man who killed his wife." 728 00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:19,450 If you're African-American, this was the perfect opportunity 729 00:36:19,483 --> 00:36:22,403 to even the score, at least a little bit. 730 00:36:22,433 --> 00:36:24,333 Hill: ANewsweek 731 00:36:24,366 --> 00:36:26,246 of the African-Americans surveyed 732 00:36:26,283 --> 00:36:28,453 believe O.J. Simpson was set up in the killings. 733 00:36:28,483 --> 00:36:31,223 23% of whites believe that theory. 734 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:35,270 Race is not an issue in the O.J. Simpson case. 735 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:36,470 I don't know what he means. 736 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,170 Race, it seems to me, is clearly an issue. 737 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,350 I think that was the source of the racial divide. 738 00:36:45,383 --> 00:36:48,473 King: I've got a friend this day that thinks O.J. didn't do it. 739 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,400 Just didn't do it. 740 00:36:51,433 --> 00:36:54,353 You know, he'll buy any theory you give him. 741 00:36:54,383 --> 00:36:56,133 Law enforcement sources tell CNN 742 00:36:56,166 --> 00:36:58,146 the Los Angeles police department 743 00:36:58,183 --> 00:37:00,023 now believes two people may have killed 744 00:37:00,050 --> 00:37:02,030 O.J. Simpson's former wife Nicole 745 00:37:02,066 --> 00:37:03,396 and her friend Ronald Goldman. 746 00:37:03,433 --> 00:37:07,123 Do you think -- Do you buy any of the defense's arguments 747 00:37:07,150 --> 00:37:12,070 that the police were somehow involved in setting up O.J., 748 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,080 planting things, that kind of thing? 749 00:37:15,116 --> 00:37:17,216 Schwartz: I don't know who's out there, but I believe the people 750 00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:20,400 that did this are definitely out there. 751 00:37:38,066 --> 00:37:39,196 It seemed to some people 752 00:37:39,233 --> 00:37:42,003 there were a lot of issues in this case. 753 00:37:42,033 --> 00:37:46,033 Watts: Underneath the fingernails of Nicole's hands, 754 00:37:46,066 --> 00:37:50,366 there was skin and blood that were not consistent 755 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,250 with Ron Goldman or O.J. Simpson. 756 00:37:55,283 --> 00:38:00,123 There are shoe prints at the Bundy crime scene 757 00:38:00,150 --> 00:38:02,330 that are not consistent with the shoes 758 00:38:02,366 --> 00:38:04,216 that Goldman was wearing, 759 00:38:04,250 --> 00:38:09,250 nor the Bruno Magli shoes that Simpson was allegedly wearing. 760 00:38:09,283 --> 00:38:12,303 There were also blood drops on Nicole's back 761 00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:14,483 that did not match O.J., 762 00:38:15,016 --> 00:38:18,416 and as the case developed, alternate theories surfaced. 763 00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:20,420 The narrative from the beginning 764 00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:23,180 from the defense perspective was, 765 00:38:23,216 --> 00:38:25,076 "The real killer is still out there. 766 00:38:25,116 --> 00:38:27,416 O.J. Simpson is innocent." 767 00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:31,400 Watts: We would hear different theories, 768 00:38:31,433 --> 00:38:36,123 and different murder plots and conspiracy theories 769 00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:38,200 came forward all the time. 770 00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:40,203 Velez-Mitchell: This guy, Glen Rogers, claimed, 771 00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:43,183 at one point, that he murdered 70 women, 772 00:38:43,216 --> 00:38:45,116 and he tells a friend of his 773 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:47,430 that one of those women was Nicole. 774 00:38:47,466 --> 00:38:50,446 Moret: Bill Wasz claims that he was offered $1,000 775 00:38:50,483 --> 00:38:54,033 to tail or follow Nicole 776 00:38:54,066 --> 00:38:57,166 and offered $15,000 to kill her. 777 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:03,270 He supposedly kept copious notes in a 10-page detailed notebook. 778 00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:07,020 Velez-Mitchell: So it kind of shows that unless he's psychic, 779 00:39:07,050 --> 00:39:12,200 he was doing something vis-à-vis Nicole before she was murdered. 780 00:39:12,233 --> 00:39:16,383 The one that we heard the most is that O.J. didn't do it. 781 00:39:16,416 --> 00:39:18,116 Jason Simpson did it. 782 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:20,470 And I realized, based on what I had been told so far, 783 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,080 that O.J. didn't do it. 784 00:39:22,116 --> 00:39:25,296 It's ludicrous. 785 00:39:25,333 --> 00:39:27,083 Distrust of the LAPD 786 00:39:27,116 --> 00:39:30,196 and its history of egregious misconduct against citizens 787 00:39:30,233 --> 00:39:33,023 put law enforcement on the defensive. 788 00:39:33,050 --> 00:39:35,050 Officers were certainly not the heroes 789 00:39:35,083 --> 00:39:36,353 in this investigation. 790 00:39:36,383 --> 00:39:38,433 O.J. was the star. 791 00:39:38,466 --> 00:39:41,476 His devoted fans voiced loud support, 792 00:39:42,016 --> 00:39:44,166 and it never died down. 793 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,070 Many doubted O.J.'s involvement in the murders, 794 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:51,000 but if not O.J., who else could have done this? 795 00:39:51,033 --> 00:39:53,483 Some began to consider other possible culprits. 796 00:39:54,016 --> 00:39:55,346 These theories gained momentum 797 00:39:55,383 --> 00:39:59,033 when evidence pointed away from O.J. Simpson. 798 00:39:59,066 --> 00:40:01,176 The O.J. Simpson investigation produced 799 00:40:01,216 --> 00:40:04,296 more than its fair share of conspiracy theories, 800 00:40:04,333 --> 00:40:08,033 including a serial killer who wrote a letter of confession, 801 00:40:08,066 --> 00:40:09,426 a career criminal who claimed it was 802 00:40:09,466 --> 00:40:12,326 a murder-for-hire hit on Nicole. 803 00:40:12,366 --> 00:40:14,146 We will explore some of those theories 804 00:40:14,183 --> 00:40:17,203 in greater depth in part two of 805 00:40:17,233 --> 00:40:20,183 "How It Really Happened: The O.J. Simpson Case." 63793

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