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[Brett] All I care about is you
and what's coming for you!
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That's all I give a shit about.
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[Brett] Two, three, hut!
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[Cody] I'm not by nature combative
or confrontational.
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All part of the journey, man.
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[Brett] I've got a lot of frustration
built up, man.
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So do you, so...
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[exhales] I don't know
if you let yours out, but I let mine out.
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-Maybe you can punch me, if you like.
-[Cody chuckles]
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-It's all right.
-[Brett] Punch me in the gut.
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[Cody] I'm more peaceful
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and perform my best when I'm calm
and just kind of wanna
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self-express rather than dominate
or beat somebody,
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or this and that.
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When I first met Brett,
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he was very intent
on testing my willingness
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to do this for real
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and how far he could push me.
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[Brett panting] Let's go!
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[Brett] This is
the kind of shit I'm talking about.
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To be an Olympic athlete,
this is exactly what it's about.
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This stuff right here.
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[panting]
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Hey, you got a look
in your eye there, young man.
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That's what I like.
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Even if it's hatred towards me, I like it.
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[chuckles]
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-There's that punch in the gut you wanted.
-[chuckles]
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[panting]
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In my eyes,
there's gives and gets with everything.
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I'm sacrificing a certain amount of,
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you know, years that I could apply
to furthering my music career
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by pursuing a career
in swimming, in sport.
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But, uh, you know, going the other way,
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I may live with the regret
of never having tried.
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[Hanson] 2021 has thrown up a lot
of challenges for all these athletes.
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And we've seen Cody,
who's training by himself.
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He's in LA one day,
he's in Orlando the next.
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Someone like Bronte Campbell, who
swims by herself at Port Macquarie Pool
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when she decides to relocate
from Sydney to Brisbane,
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but she can't get into Brisbane
because of COVID.
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And Kyle, who's in his group with Marion
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at the South Australia Institute of Sport.
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He's coming off an injury.
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He's coming off a checkered four years
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with his heart operations,
his shoulder operation.
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That's what it's all about.
You've gotta be able to sacrifice
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and adapt.
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They're the keys to a COVID preparation
for these athletes
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getting ready for this year's
Tokyo Olympics.
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[music playing]
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[Peter] All right, just your own stuff
for a couple of minutes,
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then we'll jump in, eh?
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So, bit of group warm-up
then we'll split up for the swimming pool.
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For the 100 guys,
little bit of fast stuff.
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[Kyle] This week's been the longest week
I've had in such a long time.
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Sunday, I trained twice,
and normally Sunday's our day off.
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[Peter] Here we go. Two, one, up.
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[Thorpe] When I was, I think, 13,
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training was 10 two-hour sessions,
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um, every week in the pool.
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And when you get home
from swimming training,
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when you've basically gone
straight from school, um,
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you have a meal, and you go to bed.
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And for a lot of people,
that doesn't sound like
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a great kind of existence,
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but they're the kind of sacrifices
that you choose to make.
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All right, timing these four the same.
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[Kyle] The hardest thing
for me is my brain.
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When I'm swimming,
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I gotta move my left shoulder,
my brain goes, "That'll hurt."
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[Peter] We'll get a watch
on these four guys.
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[Kyle] Now I'm trying to force my way back
without being strong enough.
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I'm having problems,
so I need to strengthen
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all the muscles and parts
around my shoulder to take the load.
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[Peter] Two, one, up!
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[Kyle] I pride myself on that hard work,
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and when I can't do it,
I get stressed massively.
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[Peter] Five, six...
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What am I gonna do racing-wise
in the relay camp?
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I don't wanna go too hard
'cause I'll get too excited.
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[Peter] It'll be some changeovers.
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We'll have to just monitor
the changeovers on the Monday.
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And one type of activity,
and you go into another activity.
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Yeah.
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So, some will be just doing a changeover,
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some will be, uh,
different games and stuff.
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That'll be a problem though,
'cause I wanna win it.
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You know what I mean?
I'll most probably just train to...
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protect the body for the three weeks.
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It's a difficult one when I know
how close that relationship is
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with Kyle and his coach. Um...
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You should listen to your coach
95% of the time.
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And I do believe that.
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And 5% of the time, it's for you.
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You don't have to win it.
You know what I mean?
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But you might need to participate
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and swim at an appropriate level
to where your shoulder's at.
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-Yeah, that'll be tough.
-Yeah.
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-Every challenge is.
-What's the point?
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In swimming to lose?
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I'm not saying swim to lose,
swim to improve your shoulder.
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-Yeah. All right. See you tonight.
-See you, big fella.
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[James] Hello, Kyle.
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Hey, buddy, how are you?
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It's good, thanks, pal. How are you?
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Um, yeah, I think I'm just a bit fatigued,
to be honest.
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-Mm-hmm.
-This is day number 13 straight, I think.
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Talk me through what you're feeling
around the front of the shoulder.
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It's the top of the shoulder
through the AC joint.
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The front of the shoulder's settled down.
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-The knees are the most problematic.
-Tell me about the knees.
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Knee's just sore still.
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-Worse or same?
-Probably worse.
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Push your knees back straight for me.
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Tighten your quads, Kyle. Hard.
What do you feel?
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Hmm... Fatigue. Probably a little bit
through the left side, I reckon.
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We gotta work on your recovery strategies.
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-Yeah, I know.
-Time. Yeah.
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That's the thing with swimming.
You don't get recovery in swimming.
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Just go through.
I once had one day off in 14 days.
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[chuckles]
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It's good coming back eight weeks
post-surgery, and one day off.
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One problem is you love it.
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-I know.
-That's a problem.
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Don't wanna miss it.
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We probably just need to just ease off
a little bit on the accelerator.
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Just have a bit of an 80, 90% week,
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then wriggle up again from there,
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as opposed to a full-on.
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So, for me, even I'm realizing now,
with my old age,
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that I have to be a bit smarter
and wiser with things.
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You need the recovery.
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Like, you plug your phone charger in,
you recharge it.
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We need to plug you in, recharge you.
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I said to Bish this morning,
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I don't go in there
to lose training sessions.
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I race from the warm-up,
until the cool down.
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It's like a mental game to win everything.
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Given there's no medals
on the end of this,
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we might just need to reframe.
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That's where your sports psych
will come in
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and help you with the reframing.
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But if I'm standing right on the box
with a racing suit on,
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I'm not not trying.
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I'm not losing against the guys I have
to race in six months to get on the team.
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I understand that.
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But keep in mind,
there's a time and a place for that,
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and it doesn't have to be every session.
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Rewiring the brain, it's a tough one.
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[Bronte] I still find it weird when kids
come up to me, and they're like,
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"Me and my sister wanna be like you.
We're sisters too."
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-Morning.
-Morning.
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How are we? Good?
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-Yep.
-Good.
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[Bronte] I'm like, "That's really sweet."
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Or when kids start crying,
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you're like, "Relax!
Breathe, it's fine. It's just me."
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I'm still the 7-year-old
that used to look up to others.
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That's still me as well.
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[indistinct chatter]
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So, I just think back to when I was a kid.
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I wanted to do seven sessions a week.
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My parents were like,
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"This is not happening, you're seven."
[chuckles]
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Like, chill out.
There are no seven-year-old Olympians.
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Just, like, take a step back.
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Like, cool off.
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I trained in a 25-meter pool...
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[indistinct]
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...from when I was seven
until I went to my first Olympics.
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Like, I did that.
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In Malawi, um, my grandma used to teach
the local kids in her backyard pool.
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Mum used to teach us in our backyard pool.
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Now, look, it probably wasn't huge,
but I was little, so it seemed huge.
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It had this scary deep end
and a big wall you could jump off,
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which I was the youngest one
in my family to jump off the wall.
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I'm still very proud about that one.
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And we had the lake in Malawi.
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They call it the Calendar Lake
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'cause it's 52 miles across
and 365 miles long.
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So, it's huge.
I used to love going down there.
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It's got the beach, you swim.
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I was always scared of the hippo.
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There was a hippo that used to hang out.
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There's freshwater crocodiles in there
as well and stuff,
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but it was the hippos
that we were always really scared of.
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It's always just been
a part of fun and play
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and handed down
through the women in our family.
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This love of the water, and onto me.
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[Bronte] This is one
of my favorite drills.
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Before Olympic Games, everything.
I always do this.
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You go 12 kicks and then one stroke
as powerful as you can make it.
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Twelve kicks and then
two strokes really powerful.
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They're quite fast strokes,
but still trying to keep power,
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so not just ripping through the water,
then 12 kicks, three strokes.
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[Bronte] You can't push 'em to do it.
They've gotta wanna do it.
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But apart from that, I mean, I hope...
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I hope I pass on that love of the water
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and the freedom you feel in the water,
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which my grandma gave to my mum,
my mum gave it to me,
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so, I would hope to pass that on.
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Probably the biggest thing
with the turn is,
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as you're going into your last stroke,
it finishes into your turn.
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I try and get my wall time
between .18 and .22.
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My races are won
by hundredths of a second.
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So, if I'm spending .25 on the wall
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and I don't win my race by .03,
that's because of that turn.
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I'm aware that there are
young kids watching.
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I don't wanna stand up and say,
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"If you miss out by 5/100ths of a second
and being on the podium,
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"you're not good enough
and you should be really upset with that.
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"Despite all the effort
that you've put in."
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I am proud of how I performed in Rio.
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I stressed that point in the media so hard
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because it's not the narrative
you're supposed to say.
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When you don't win a medal,
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you're not supposed to say
that you're happy.
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You're supposed to be devastated,
and everyone else is...
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Because everyone else is, and that's fine,
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everyone else wanted you to win,
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but not as much as you did.
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Did you ever lose motivation?
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Um, the biggest thing with motivation
for me has been injuries.
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So, I injured my hip.
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I had hip surgery
way back when I was 15, um,
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and then injured my shoulder in 2016.
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I decided,
as soon as I finished Comm Games,
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doesn't matter what happened,
I was taking three months off.
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I finished Comm Games.
I swam the fastest that I'd ever swum.
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My lead in was
probably the best I'd ever had.
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And a lot of it was because
I'd given myself an end date.
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I was, like, "You're in pain now,
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"but in two months' time,
you can stop and have a rest,
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"and your mind and your body can recover."
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What I'm saying is,
when your motivation goes really low,
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to the point where I was,
you've gotta change something.
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[Bronte] Swimming's so brutal.
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You just can't hang all your happiness
for a meet on the result.
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There's got to be more to it.
Be there for something else.
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[Hanson] The fact that Ian Thorpe
wants to use his name
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for the betterment of all the platforms
he works with,
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it's credit to him.
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He'll wanna leave a legacy in the pool,
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and he will do in general life as well,
and that's wonderful.
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[Thorpe] I'm meeting Anna Brown.
She works for Equality Australia.
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I worked with her on Marriage Equality,
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but I've continued working with her
on some of the issues that face,
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um, all the entire LGBTIQ community.
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One of the things that is coming up
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is actually about
the Religious Discrimination Bill.
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So, um, thank you so much for helping out.
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This is going to take a fight.
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We really need to gear up.
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We need to be in Canberra
every week that we can
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to make sure they know
that the community won't stand for this.
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Our strategy is still to build awareness
about the damage the bill has caused.
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As soon as you say to people,
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"Your tax payer dollars
is funding discrimination
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"against LGBTIQ people, and women,
and unmarried people,
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"and potentially
people with disabilities,"
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they get very upset.
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Yep. Good. Let's make 'em upset.
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[chuckling] Yeah, that's the point.
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When I did accomplish the things
that I have in sport, um,
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it was about the performance in sport.
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I wasn't thinking of what
would continue on from there,
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and what influence
and what impact it may have.
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Yeah, it may be a wasted opportunity, um,
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[stutters] if you don't use a profile
when you see injustice,
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and you can be the person that stands up
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and be accountable to see that change.
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[Thorpe] The reason I guess
I hadn't come out was,
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I was asked about it
when I was a teenager,
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when I was 16, by a journalist,
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and then, for years,
I was being accused of being gay,
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or it was rumored that I was gay,
or something like that.
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So, it had always taken
what was probably a negative tone.
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And so, I didn't wanna come out.
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Um, I wanted to get on with
what I enjoyed doing and playing sport.
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Like, it wasn't such a big deal
for me at that time.
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I decided that, once I told my family,
that was the hardest thing for me to do,
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then coming out to other people was fine.
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Um, I decided I already had an interview
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that I had to do with Michael Parkinson
about something else,
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and so, I just told him, "By the way,
you should ask me if I'm gay,
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"because I'm gonna tell you that I am."
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You've always said that you're not gay.
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Uh, you've said that your sexual
experiences have been with women.
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Is all of that true?
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Well, that's true, but, um...
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You know,
I've thought about this for a long time.
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I'll bet. Yeah.
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I'm not straight.
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You're not.
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[Thorpe] I'm comfortable
with people saying whatever they want.
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Not that I think it's okay,
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it's just I deal with it
and move on with my life.
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I may have struggled coming out,
but I don't struggle being out.
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I needed to get away
'cause I'm writing a book,
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and wanted somewhere
inspirational to do it,
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to get on with it.
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I finished most of it,
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because I'm behind where I'd like to be
at this stage.
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The book itself is called, Had I Said Yes.
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It's a sliding doors moment
when I get asked by a journalist,
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um, when I'm 16, if I'm gay,
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and what would have happened
if I said yes,
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and how my life probably
would have looked different.
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And I know the research on what
it was like during those times.
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I wouldn't be able to compete
in certain countries.
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Things like that are pretty messed up.
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Perhaps being out has made
my mental health journey
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a little bit easier.
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I don't wanna change
any part of my history,
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but I do want people
to understand the challenges,
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because there will be challenges
for others in the future.
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[Hanson] No one gives you
a book these days
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on how to manage being a superstar
as a teenage idol.
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Towards the end of that,
I think he took a lot of it into himself
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and needed to talk to people
about being Ian Thorpe
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and being the Olympic legend
that he became.
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That's hard. That's tough.
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Everyone who's made the top grade
in swimming has gotta manage it.
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It's not new.
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I've seen some changes
in Kyle Chalmers in this area.
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"How do I handle being
the Olympic champion,
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"when everyone refers to me
in the newspapers, on the TV,
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[repeating] "Olympic champion?"
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He's just a boy.
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Hey.
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-[Dr. John] How's it going?
-Good, how are you?
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Well, thank you.
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So, you're still in lockdown?
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Yeah, it was supposed to end this month
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and now surgical masks are not sufficient.
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Yeah. Yeah, right.
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I think, where we left off,
we were on about page 50.
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[Kyle] I met Dr. Null
when I was in Berlin in 2015.
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He's a very knowledgeable guy
who works as a counsellor
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on the US Olympic team.
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So, that's where we're starting from.
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Getting on Zoom with him is one of
the most important hours of my week.
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"In order to make myself clear,
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"I am forced to fall back
on personal experience."
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[Kyle] We read this book called
Man's Search for Meaning,
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and I think there's so many
great passages in this book
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that you can take a lot from.
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[Dr. John] "I did not know
whether my wife was alive,
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"and I had no means of finding out.
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"But at that moment, it ceased to matter.
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"There was no need for me to know.
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"Nothing could touch the strength
of my love, my thoughts
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"and the image of my beloved."
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How does that relate
to the world of elite sports?
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Well, I guess it goes back
to defining yourself by your relationships
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and not defining yourself
by your achievements.
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[Dr. John] Indeed.
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What do you think as you look over
the next six months?
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As the big event comes up,
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what will be the forces
trying to dehumanize you,
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um, as the pressures mount?
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Um, media, sponsorship...
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I guess, all the pressure,
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that everyone wants something,
everyone wants a piece of me,
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so it becomes stressful
and hard the most.
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[Dr. John] And without even
people realizing it,
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it can make you a piece of merchandise.
Right?
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-Exactly. Massively.
-A commodity.
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Yeah. For sure. A number.
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You're given a number.
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So, I'm number 761 to represent Australia.
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And then it's like, how much money
can number 761 generate
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for our company and income?
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So, you lose your identity a little bit.
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It's the same with lots of things.
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People don't necessarily care
about you as a person
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They see you as that athlete.
If you're not doing well,
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they're done with you
and don't wanna find out what's wrong.
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[Dr. John] How do you handle that?
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Um...
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Knowing who your real friends are
and who you can have in your life
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that you trust and are happy
spending time with.
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They're gonna be there, no matter what.
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It's definitely still a challenge.
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[Thorpe] I made a point that
I would be in contact with Kyle,
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knowing what he was going to be facing.
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Even the level of expectation
that would be around his performances,
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and then, sometimes,
just to be there as a mate,
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uh, that he knows has gone through
something similar.
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[Dr. John] There will come a day,
may it be far away,
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but there will come a day
when you will not be
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the current Olympic champion
in your field, right?
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[chuckles] Let's hope
it's a long way away.
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-Indeed. Indeed.
-Yeah.
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But age will come to you too, right?
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Yeah, for sure.
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[indistinct chatter]
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Other than that,
she's not getting in the weight stuff.
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As far as Cody's concerned,
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he's gotta get through the heats
in the 100 butterfly,
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that's his Olympic event.
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He's gotta go top 16,
and then he's gotta improve again.
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00:21:44,512 --> 00:21:48,272
Probably gotta go past four athletes
to go top eight.
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Cody's gotta go 26.2, 26.8.
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[Brett] Hop in the pool.
Let's get splashed. Let's get ready.
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We're gonna see what we're made of now.
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[Brett] One of the things that
we talked about in this process is,
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we don't know his limit.
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Everyone he's competing against
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has experienced their limits
to some degree.
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And we're just finding out
what his limits are.
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Cody, you're 6.2, 6.8,
so you're, like, 3/10ths off.
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It's not much. Like we talked about,
those little details.
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You'll get it on the next one.
Drink some water and then reset.
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6.8! 6.8!
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All right, Codes,
here we go again, 20 seconds.
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Oh, yes, 26.85. There we go.
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That's a legit pace.
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He's swimming at the pace
he needs to be at
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to be a top eight in Australia right now.
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Five times in a row, so...
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He's right there.
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Good job.
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[Cody] This has been a real journey,
the last two weeks.
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We've trained day in and day out.
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Now I get a chance to see
whether it's been worth it.
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It would be nice to get to trials
and be competitive.
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It would make things fun and interesting.
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Everything you've done has suggested
that you are going to do it.
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00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,240
-Right. Yeah.
-You know?
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There's no question.
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Now it's just a matter of going
and doing it.
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[Cody] I need to break 54 seconds.
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00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:45,933
-We'll make bad choices.
-[chuckles]
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00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:48,679
That's cool.
437
00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:50,891
-Oh, no, what's this?
-Here we go.
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-Ooh.
-What number are we?
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[man] You should never have
given these to me.
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[Brett] What's this?
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[Cody] This is the
Queensland Championships.
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I'm probably 11 or 12 there.
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[Cody's girlfriend]
Look at your little arms.
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[man] You were never the biggest bloke.
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[Cody] Look at the guy next to me,
he's at least 10 centimeters taller.
446
00:24:11,325 --> 00:24:13,655
That guy looks like a monster
compared to you.
447
00:24:13,744 --> 00:24:15,084
-Huge man.
-[Cody's girlfriend] Yeah.
448
00:24:15,163 --> 00:24:16,963
[Cody] I was always small for my age.
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I hadn't seen any footage of my races
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from when I was young since I did them.
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00:24:23,421 --> 00:24:28,011
Um, Mum just had had 'em stored on,
like, CDs or VHS,
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00:24:28,092 --> 00:24:31,302
or whatever the hell
she was putting them on back then.
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00:24:31,387 --> 00:24:34,137
-[Cody] I'm hurting.
-[man] That's a very efficient kick.
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[stutters] I always had this big up-kick.
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00:24:38,561 --> 00:24:40,351
It's nice when I don't breathe.
456
00:24:40,438 --> 00:24:43,068
When I breathe,
I lift my head way too high.
457
00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:44,939
I wish Brett didn't see this.
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[Cody's girlfriend] You were way ahead.
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00:24:46,611 --> 00:24:48,741
[Cody] Yeah. This is like school day.
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This is how most of
my butterfly events went.
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-[Cody's girlfriend] No way.
-When I was growing up.
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[Cody] I don't know
how I did it, but I was tiny.
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[whistling]
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-[Brett] You didn't celebrate?
-[Cody] No, I never claimed.
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00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:01,833
[Brett] Really?
466
00:25:01,918 --> 00:25:03,418
I gotta practice celebrating.
467
00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:04,922
-Yeah.
-You do.
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00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:08,046
I was dissecting those races a little bit.
469
00:25:08,132 --> 00:25:11,092
I do a lot of the same things now
that I did then.
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It's funny, I feel like, as we grow older,
471
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we're then set back on this path
to just reclaiming
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the free, innocent person we were
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before life happened to us.
474
00:25:25,650 --> 00:25:27,900
And so, there, I was just swimming,
475
00:25:27,985 --> 00:25:29,775
I wasn't thinking about it at all.
476
00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:32,072
Now I swim and think so much.
477
00:25:32,156 --> 00:25:35,736
And so, looking back at a race
that I did when I was 12,
478
00:25:35,826 --> 00:25:37,536
I learned so much from myself.
479
00:25:37,620 --> 00:25:41,370
And now I'm doing these time trials
and just thinking so much,
480
00:25:41,457 --> 00:25:46,337
wishing that I was
as free as I was back then.
481
00:25:47,255 --> 00:25:50,835
[Thorpe] With Cody, it's seeing how much
of the skill that he had
482
00:25:50,925 --> 00:25:52,755
when he was a young swimmer,
483
00:25:52,843 --> 00:25:55,433
virtually a child,
just in his early teens.
484
00:25:55,513 --> 00:26:00,143
Um, how much of that talent,
um, will actually carry over
485
00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:02,186
into what he can do as an adult?
486
00:26:02,812 --> 00:26:06,112
And even being able
to see his improvements
487
00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:09,110
and some of them,
how quickly he's making them,
488
00:26:09,193 --> 00:26:11,653
um, is really encouraging.
489
00:26:11,737 --> 00:26:15,407
But he needs some experience
racing against the rest of the world now.
490
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,500
[crew member] Do you guys mind
if we take a video of you doing a photo?
491
00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:26,213
-Yeah.
-Okay, sweet.
492
00:26:26,294 --> 00:26:27,884
One, two, three. Smile.
493
00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:32,378
[Bronte] There's a huge
debate that goes on.
494
00:26:32,466 --> 00:26:34,756
Should sports people have
to be role models?
495
00:26:34,844 --> 00:26:38,894
Whether or not you think they should,
at the end of the day, you are.
496
00:26:38,973 --> 00:26:41,393
-[girls] Thank you.
-You're welcome.
497
00:26:42,143 --> 00:26:44,063
It's like living in a goldfish bowl
498
00:26:44,145 --> 00:26:47,685
and everyone's staring at the bowl
and looking at everything.
499
00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:50,443
They don't really see you
as a person anymore.
500
00:26:50,526 --> 00:26:51,986
That's just an athlete.
501
00:26:52,069 --> 00:26:53,699
-Is it good?
-Yeah.
502
00:26:55,031 --> 00:26:57,121
Oh, yeah. We do look good.
503
00:26:57,199 --> 00:26:58,699
[laughing]
504
00:26:58,784 --> 00:26:59,664
Thank you.
505
00:26:59,744 --> 00:27:01,294
-You're welcome.
-Thank you.
506
00:27:01,370 --> 00:27:02,750
-Bye.
-Bye.
507
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,580
[Bronte] I would like athletes
to be seen as people
508
00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:09,457
who are trying really hard
to do something.
509
00:27:09,545 --> 00:27:13,215
Especially Olympic athletes
who don't earn a lot of money.
510
00:27:13,299 --> 00:27:15,799
They're doing it
for the love of the sport,
511
00:27:15,885 --> 00:27:18,675
and they train so hard
and do so much work.
512
00:27:18,763 --> 00:27:20,893
It's not so that you can turn around
513
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:23,393
and be excited or disappointed in them.
514
00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:28,106
It's so that they can achieve something
for them, their family, their country.
515
00:27:34,278 --> 00:27:37,198
Hello! Peter.
516
00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:39,531
[indistinct chatter]
517
00:27:39,617 --> 00:27:41,157
Oh, my God, Butsy?
518
00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:45,462
I thought you were in Bali.
519
00:27:46,123 --> 00:27:47,633
Good to see you, Butsy.
520
00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:49,590
Welcome home.
521
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:50,918
Oh, he's gone.
522
00:27:52,505 --> 00:27:53,455
Hello, my love.
523
00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:55,170
[indistinct]
524
00:27:55,257 --> 00:27:57,177
-How you doing?
-Beautiful light there.
525
00:27:57,259 --> 00:28:01,599
It's, like, my last training day here
and then I go to Brisbane.
526
00:28:02,932 --> 00:28:03,772
For real?
527
00:28:03,849 --> 00:28:05,099
It's weird, eh?
528
00:28:05,935 --> 00:28:07,055
Okay, be careful.
529
00:28:07,144 --> 00:28:09,614
Look at that. It's good.
530
00:28:10,189 --> 00:28:11,319
It's good.
531
00:28:12,108 --> 00:28:13,188
[Benfield] Gorgeous.
532
00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:15,362
Did you go for a swim today?
533
00:28:15,444 --> 00:28:19,164
Yeah, we went down about 10:30, 11:00.
534
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,910
We went for a swim...
535
00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:22,952
How's the water?
536
00:28:23,452 --> 00:28:27,122
Tim and Charlton were running down
with their surfboards,
537
00:28:27,206 --> 00:28:29,326
and so, I jumped in to swim
538
00:28:29,417 --> 00:28:32,337
and I caught a couple of waves
on my board as well.
539
00:28:32,420 --> 00:28:33,340
Yeah, great.
540
00:28:33,838 --> 00:28:36,168
You'll drive up in one go, up to Ballina?
541
00:28:36,257 --> 00:28:40,007
Yeah, I go to Ballina tomorrow
then cross the border on Monday.
542
00:28:41,053 --> 00:28:41,933
Wow.
543
00:28:42,012 --> 00:28:43,012
Nuts.
544
00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:46,479
I gotta get back to it.
I'm gonna go for my swim.
545
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:48,519
-Enjoy the swim.
-Thanks, my love.
546
00:28:48,602 --> 00:28:50,562
Be careful around the rocks.
547
00:28:50,646 --> 00:28:52,686
Yeah. I will. I will be careful.
548
00:28:53,649 --> 00:28:55,529
Thank you, my dear. Speak soon.
549
00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:58,199
-Enjoy. I'll talk to you later.
-Bye, love.
550
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,949
[Bronte] People ask it a lot,
what have you sacrificed?
551
00:29:01,031 --> 00:29:03,991
And I don't really like it as a question
552
00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:07,706
because it sort of assumes that
you can do everything in life.
553
00:29:07,788 --> 00:29:11,498
I didn't sacrifice things.
I made a choice for something else.
554
00:29:11,584 --> 00:29:13,844
After you've made a choice
to be a swimmer,
555
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,299
it takes away all the other choices.
556
00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:19,550
You can make a choice to be a uni student
and still go skiing,
557
00:29:19,633 --> 00:29:21,893
or go travelling on your holidays.
558
00:29:21,969 --> 00:29:23,799
Just all your choices are gone.
559
00:29:23,888 --> 00:29:26,768
When you choose to be a swimmer
it knocks them all out.
560
00:29:26,849 --> 00:29:29,639
I missed out on things
but I chose to miss out on them,
561
00:29:29,727 --> 00:29:32,857
and I constantly kept on choosing
to miss out on them.
562
00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:36,693
I think it's a weird thing to be, like,
563
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:40,855
this is literally my childhood dream
from when I was a little kid,
564
00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:42,026
and I am doing it,
565
00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:45,454
then to complain about the things
I've given up along the way.
566
00:29:47,036 --> 00:29:49,826
I'm aware that there's a bunch
of young kids watching,
567
00:29:49,914 --> 00:29:53,044
because when I was little,
I watched the Olympics.
568
00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:55,125
That's what got me into swimming.
569
00:29:55,211 --> 00:29:57,841
Olympics is the biggest platform
there is for my sport,
570
00:29:57,922 --> 00:30:00,632
and when you're there,
you've got a lot of power.
571
00:30:00,716 --> 00:30:04,136
Isn't that a Spider-Man quote?
"Great power, great responsibility."
572
00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:05,220
[chuckles]
573
00:30:20,027 --> 00:30:21,447
-Hello.
-Good to see you.
574
00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:22,779
Very nice to see you.
575
00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:24,323
-Come on through.
-Thank you.
576
00:30:24,406 --> 00:30:26,276
-Nice to see you.
-How are you?
577
00:30:26,367 --> 00:30:27,827
-I'm well. How are you?
-Good.
578
00:30:27,910 --> 00:30:29,660
-Hello, love.
-Elbows.
579
00:30:29,745 --> 00:30:30,905
Is that how we do?
580
00:30:30,996 --> 00:30:32,456
[Thorpe] So, I'm in Canberra,
581
00:30:32,957 --> 00:30:36,167
and I'll be meeting with
a number of politicians.
582
00:30:36,252 --> 00:30:39,172
We work with both sides of government.
583
00:30:39,255 --> 00:30:41,875
You know, our MPs and senators.
584
00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:44,256
There's talk going around
585
00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:47,103
obviously about
the Religious Discrimination Bill.
586
00:30:47,179 --> 00:30:49,099
Religious Discrimination Bill...
587
00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:52,351
The Religious Freedom Bill
proposed by the government
588
00:30:52,434 --> 00:30:54,484
discriminates against people of faith.
589
00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:56,482
It's not difficult for me to do,
590
00:30:56,564 --> 00:30:58,864
to be at these kinds of meetings,
591
00:30:59,441 --> 00:31:02,531
but I also do a lot of preparation
for it as well,
592
00:31:02,611 --> 00:31:06,661
so that I am comfortable
around whatever statistic we may have
593
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:09,370
that we're putting out there
and giving to people.
594
00:31:09,451 --> 00:31:11,331
[Penny] But surely, fundamentally,
595
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,869
we would all agree,
we wanna try and reduce the incidents
596
00:31:15,958 --> 00:31:18,168
of self-harm amongst young people.
597
00:31:18,252 --> 00:31:20,752
It's one in two of attempted suicide.
598
00:31:21,338 --> 00:31:25,628
It makes the trans community
or trans people,
599
00:31:25,718 --> 00:31:29,098
the most vulnerable group
that we have in our society.
600
00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:32,099
There are people who are vulnerable
601
00:31:32,182 --> 00:31:34,522
and who hear
all sorts of negative messages,
602
00:31:34,602 --> 00:31:36,522
so, what we can do to counter those
603
00:31:36,604 --> 00:31:39,734
with messages of inclusion and support,
604
00:31:39,815 --> 00:31:43,105
but also, "Hey, you know, I'm this person,
605
00:31:43,193 --> 00:31:45,243
"and I'm on your side, so it's okay."
606
00:31:45,321 --> 00:31:48,371
They are really important messages,
so, thank you.
607
00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:54,329
[Thorpe] Over a period of time,
I built up a level of respect,
608
00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:57,423
from, I think, the community
and what I do,
609
00:31:57,499 --> 00:32:01,209
and what I stand for as an individual,
610
00:32:01,295 --> 00:32:04,125
but with that comes
611
00:32:04,214 --> 00:32:07,184
a tremendous responsibility
to also give back,
612
00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:10,259
and I am happy to do that.
613
00:32:10,346 --> 00:32:14,766
Um, five-time Olympic gold medalist,
national icon
614
00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:17,730
and dear friend of Equality Australia,
Ian Thorpe.
615
00:32:18,354 --> 00:32:22,784
When I do have the opportunity
to speak about things that I can relate to
616
00:32:22,858 --> 00:32:25,778
that I have experienced in my own life,
617
00:32:25,861 --> 00:32:29,871
I, um... will feel that responsibility,
618
00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:34,368
but I also want to deliver for
when I felt voiceless in the past as well.
619
00:32:34,453 --> 00:32:36,253
It was a few years ago now,
620
00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:39,960
but for the first time,
I actually experienced discrimination.
621
00:32:40,042 --> 00:32:42,462
Um, I was in the back of an Uber
622
00:32:42,544 --> 00:32:45,554
and I gave my boyfriend a peck.
623
00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:48,261
It was only a peck,
it wasn't any more than that.
624
00:32:48,342 --> 00:32:53,682
And the driver made a point
of turning around and saying to me,
625
00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:57,476
"Ian Thorpe..." My name is not on
my Uber account, by the way,
626
00:32:58,102 --> 00:33:00,442
"Um, you should be ashamed of yourself."
627
00:33:01,105 --> 00:33:03,515
So this is...
628
00:33:03,607 --> 00:33:05,027
GIRL: He got a bad rating.
629
00:33:05,109 --> 00:33:06,489
-Yeah, he got...
-[all laughing]
630
00:33:06,568 --> 00:33:08,398
-He got no rating.
-[laughter]
631
00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:10,657
He got a complaint,
don't worry about that.
632
00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:15,828
Um, the reason that
I remember it particularly is,
633
00:33:15,911 --> 00:33:17,331
it was, actually, that night
634
00:33:17,413 --> 00:33:20,963
was the first time I told my partner
at the time that I loved him.
635
00:33:21,583 --> 00:33:26,553
Um, so, it ruined what should have been
an incredible night for me.
636
00:33:27,256 --> 00:33:30,426
That's the real world
that still exists for a lot of people.
637
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:31,509
[people applauding]
638
00:33:37,474 --> 00:33:39,484
[Thorpe] We had
a swimming event cancelled,
639
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,520
so that we can bring
the entire national team together.
640
00:33:44,732 --> 00:33:47,742
So, not just the people who are
on the Dolphin Team competing,
641
00:33:47,818 --> 00:33:49,318
but the extended team.
642
00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:52,605
-[Kyle] Morning.
-[Steve] Good morning, sir.
643
00:33:52,698 --> 00:33:53,778
[Kyle] How are you?
644
00:33:53,866 --> 00:33:55,696
[indistinct chatter]
645
00:33:56,201 --> 00:34:00,161
[Hanson] It's a chance to also train
in squads together in different strokes,
646
00:34:00,247 --> 00:34:02,827
but to also create the camaraderie
647
00:34:02,916 --> 00:34:04,786
that you need with that group.
648
00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:07,917
There's just some horrible
green tree pythons there.
649
00:34:08,464 --> 00:34:12,224
This is my Aussie green tree
python female.
650
00:34:12,301 --> 00:34:15,011
I'll be away for most of the year, so,
651
00:34:15,095 --> 00:34:17,175
Steve'll take care of that this year.
652
00:34:17,264 --> 00:34:21,354
It's five less mouths for my mum to feed
when I'm away, which is good.
653
00:34:21,435 --> 00:34:23,145
[pop song playing]
654
00:34:24,313 --> 00:34:28,033
[Hanson] The National Event Camp
can really set the stage
655
00:34:28,108 --> 00:34:31,778
to bring the best of the best together.
656
00:34:39,369 --> 00:34:42,619
Whether you are a rising 13 or 14 year old
657
00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:45,536
that has strived to make
the National Event Camp,
658
00:34:45,626 --> 00:34:48,796
and you're on camp for the first time
659
00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:50,419
with someone like Kyle Chalmers,
660
00:34:50,506 --> 00:34:53,006
someone like Bronte and Kate Campbell.
661
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:55,511
You can rub shoulders
with the best of the best.
662
00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:56,804
It inspires you.
663
00:34:56,887 --> 00:35:02,057
And, uh, to have Ian Thorpe walk in
to an event camp,
664
00:35:02,142 --> 00:35:04,142
it's the icing on the cake for them.
665
00:35:04,228 --> 00:35:07,188
You just think, "Thorpie's in the house."
666
00:35:07,272 --> 00:35:08,272
[indistinct chatter]
667
00:35:12,319 --> 00:35:14,279
[Daniel] It's surreal to be in a room,
668
00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:19,537
um, with so many incredible athletes,
coaches, support staff.
669
00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:22,198
[Rohan] To see this in the room,
who would have thought,
670
00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:24,117
six months ago, we'd be doing this?
671
00:35:24,206 --> 00:35:28,536
But a lot of people did want a plan to
have this happen and get you together,
672
00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:30,957
and with the aim of getting ourselves
673
00:35:31,046 --> 00:35:33,876
directed towards the Olympic Games.
674
00:35:34,758 --> 00:35:38,098
So, when we look at the purpose
of the next two days,
675
00:35:39,054 --> 00:35:41,354
I like this phrase,
"Pressure is a privilege."
676
00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:44,104
We wanna create pressure.
677
00:35:44,184 --> 00:35:47,404
We wanna create pressure on you
so that you can execute.
678
00:35:47,479 --> 00:35:51,019
So, we're enhancing the relay coaches.
It's coach led.
679
00:35:51,108 --> 00:35:54,648
We're bringing people together here,
collaborating and engaging.
680
00:35:57,114 --> 00:35:59,664
I can promise you that
the next couple days
681
00:35:59,741 --> 00:36:02,081
will bring pressure and uncertainty.
682
00:36:04,121 --> 00:36:06,001
We want to improve our skills.
683
00:36:06,540 --> 00:36:09,210
Measurable is competitive,
so we'll measure a lot.
684
00:36:09,293 --> 00:36:13,673
We wanna see competitiveness,
and consistent performance under pressure.
685
00:36:13,755 --> 00:36:17,465
We feel that the more you can do that,
you can handle anything.
686
00:36:18,218 --> 00:36:20,598
We've got opportunity to create history.
687
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:22,929
[pop song playing]
53484
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