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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,843 --> 00:00:10,223 [man] Take your mark. 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,560 [horn blows] 3 00:00:20,229 --> 00:00:23,019 [Bronte] I've always loved the feeling of being in water. 4 00:00:25,317 --> 00:00:29,237 Everything shuts down, and just goes really, really still. 5 00:00:30,364 --> 00:00:31,824 [Thorpe] Every stroke you take, 6 00:00:31,907 --> 00:00:35,157 it feels like you're actually skimming across the water. 7 00:00:36,871 --> 00:00:38,791 It's a very addictive feeling. 8 00:00:40,124 --> 00:00:42,254 [Cody] I just grew up around swimming. 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,460 And it's the first thing I ever knew. 10 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:49,257 [Kyle] I think I'm addicted to pain. 11 00:00:49,341 --> 00:00:52,141 I love pushing myself to the absolute limit. 12 00:00:53,179 --> 00:00:55,349 [Brett] Push! 13 00:00:55,431 --> 00:00:56,681 [Hanson] As an Olympic swimmer, 14 00:00:56,766 --> 00:00:59,226 there's four main phases you've got to go through. 15 00:00:59,310 --> 00:01:02,190 [Cody] I had no delusions about how difficult it was going to be. 16 00:01:02,271 --> 00:01:04,441 [Hanson] First phase is making the team. 17 00:01:04,523 --> 00:01:06,283 Not unless you've been through that 18 00:01:06,358 --> 00:01:09,238 that you realize just how hard it can be. 19 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:11,450 [Cody] I don't want to croak when it's important. 20 00:01:11,530 --> 00:01:13,490 -[Simon] How you gonna do it? -Be fucking fast. 21 00:01:13,574 --> 00:01:16,414 [Hanson] The second phase, you've been there, done that. 22 00:01:16,494 --> 00:01:19,084 The toughest thing is climbing that mountain again. 23 00:01:19,163 --> 00:01:22,673 [Kyle] You work so hard, day in, day out, for years and years, 24 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:25,130 and you get 47.5 seconds in the limelight. 25 00:01:25,211 --> 00:01:28,381 [commentator] And he's the Olympic champion! 26 00:01:28,464 --> 00:01:32,974 [Hanson] In phase three, athletes, coming towards the end of their career, 27 00:01:33,052 --> 00:01:36,562 trying to hang on, they want to be able to finish on a high. 28 00:01:36,639 --> 00:01:38,019 [Bronte] No one wins all the time. 29 00:01:38,098 --> 00:01:40,678 You'll win. They'll win. Nobody wins forever. 30 00:01:40,768 --> 00:01:45,228 [Hanson] Phase four, and an athlete's got to make a big decision on retirement. 31 00:01:45,314 --> 00:01:47,864 It's not an easy transition for Olympic athletes. 32 00:01:47,942 --> 00:01:50,152 [Brett] All I care about is what's coming for you. 33 00:01:50,236 --> 00:01:51,146 [Cody] We do too. 34 00:01:51,237 --> 00:01:52,737 [Brett] Then fucking do something about it! 35 00:01:53,364 --> 00:01:54,874 [man] All right, boys! Come on! 36 00:01:55,491 --> 00:01:56,701 It's time to go! 37 00:01:58,786 --> 00:02:00,076 [Peter] They make you look silly. 38 00:02:00,162 --> 00:02:01,792 [Kyle] Trials is more stressful. 39 00:02:01,872 --> 00:02:03,922 There's tears, there's happiness. 40 00:02:03,999 --> 00:02:05,879 There's emotions all over the joint. 41 00:02:06,961 --> 00:02:09,671 [Thorpe] You have something that is so consuming 42 00:02:09,755 --> 00:02:11,045 of all of your life, 43 00:02:11,632 --> 00:02:14,392 and then, all of a sudden, it isn't there. 44 00:02:16,762 --> 00:02:18,012 [man] Take your mark. 45 00:02:35,531 --> 00:02:38,281 [Heston] G'day. Welcome back to the Voice of a Veteran podcast. 46 00:02:38,367 --> 00:02:42,827 Today is an epic episode. I have the man himself, the Thorpedo, 47 00:02:42,913 --> 00:02:45,623 Mr. Ian Thorpe, Australia's most successful Olympian. 48 00:02:45,708 --> 00:02:49,038 One of the most celebrated and world-renowned sporting stars. 49 00:02:49,128 --> 00:02:52,378 Ian, it's a pleasure to have you here on the show today. 50 00:02:52,464 --> 00:02:55,304 -[mumbles] Thank you. -Ian, how do you like to be known? 51 00:02:55,384 --> 00:02:57,514 How do you like people to reference to you? 52 00:02:57,595 --> 00:02:59,755 Firstly, I prefer not being called Ian. 53 00:02:59,847 --> 00:03:01,767 -I prefer Thorpie. -Thorpie? Done. 54 00:03:01,849 --> 00:03:03,389 Which is what people go with. 55 00:03:09,106 --> 00:03:12,856 [Hanson] If you get a chance to watch Ian Thorpe swimming up and down, 56 00:03:12,943 --> 00:03:15,153 it's just like poetry in motion. 57 00:03:17,698 --> 00:03:21,948 He had the body to be able to produce the perfect stroke. 58 00:03:22,036 --> 00:03:25,456 And that perfect stroke combined in the package he had, 59 00:03:25,539 --> 00:03:28,669 made Ian Thorpe the greatest swimmer we've ever seen. 60 00:03:28,751 --> 00:03:30,131 [crowd cheering] 61 00:03:32,421 --> 00:03:33,961 [Hanson] The boy was born to swim. 62 00:03:34,048 --> 00:03:37,928 And I remember seeing him swim as a 13-year-old 63 00:03:38,010 --> 00:03:39,800 at the National Age Championships. 64 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:41,757 He won 10 gold medals. 65 00:03:43,057 --> 00:03:46,937 Um, I got first in 50 meters breaststroke, 66 00:03:47,019 --> 00:03:49,359 first in the 50 meters freestyle, 67 00:03:49,438 --> 00:03:51,728 first in the 50 meters backstroke, 68 00:03:51,815 --> 00:03:54,645 first in the 100 meters freestyle, 69 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:57,195 and first in the 200 meters IM. 70 00:03:57,279 --> 00:03:59,369 [reporter] Did you expect to win those events? 71 00:03:59,865 --> 00:04:02,195 -Some of them. -[reporter] Do you train very hard? 72 00:04:02,284 --> 00:04:04,244 -[Thorpe] Yeah. -[reporter] Do you love swimming? 73 00:04:04,328 --> 00:04:06,328 -Yeah. -[reporter] Is it your favorite sport? 74 00:04:06,413 --> 00:04:07,463 Yeah. 75 00:04:09,708 --> 00:04:12,798 [Heston] The Voice of a Veteran podcast is all about talking to those 76 00:04:12,878 --> 00:04:15,418 who might be struggling in their own transitions. 77 00:04:15,506 --> 00:04:19,216 Transitioning from high performance back to everyday life. 78 00:04:19,301 --> 00:04:22,391 And you have been at the very highest levels of performance 79 00:04:22,471 --> 00:04:23,721 in a very public way 80 00:04:23,806 --> 00:04:26,726 and have achieved amazing things from a very early age. 81 00:04:26,809 --> 00:04:29,649 You're still at a very young age yourself at the moment 82 00:04:29,728 --> 00:04:31,978 and experienced so much more than many others, 83 00:04:32,064 --> 00:04:33,774 um, could dream for their life. 84 00:04:33,857 --> 00:04:35,357 [crowd applauding] 85 00:04:35,442 --> 00:04:39,662 [man] Gold in the 200-meter freestyle, gold in the 400-meter freestyle, 86 00:04:39,738 --> 00:04:43,738 silver in the 4x200 freestyle relay, bronze in the 100-meter freestyle. 87 00:04:43,826 --> 00:04:47,036 You know who I'm talking about? I'm talking about Ian Thorpe. 88 00:04:47,121 --> 00:04:48,621 [crowd cheering] 89 00:04:55,629 --> 00:04:58,419 [Thorpe] After the 2004 Olympics, I had a long break. 90 00:04:58,507 --> 00:05:01,387 I was thinking, "I'm not doing another one of these," 91 00:05:01,468 --> 00:05:03,548 because of how much pressure I was under. 92 00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:05,217 And I didn't like that. 93 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:08,975 I achieved what I wanted to achieve when I went in the race, 94 00:05:09,059 --> 00:05:10,939 and, um, I was happy with the time. 95 00:05:11,020 --> 00:05:13,770 It was weird. No one had prepared me for this. 96 00:05:13,856 --> 00:05:15,726 Uh, no one had trained me. 97 00:05:15,816 --> 00:05:20,526 I don't think anyone else could appreciate the pressure that he must be under. 98 00:05:21,238 --> 00:05:25,738 [Thorpe] Swimming was not about training and performing anymore. 99 00:05:25,826 --> 00:05:30,286 It was doing press conferences and sponsorships 100 00:05:30,372 --> 00:05:32,122 and dealing with a public image. 101 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,630 Respect... [stutters] 102 00:05:35,502 --> 00:05:37,552 -That's one. [chuckles] -[man] All right. 103 00:05:37,629 --> 00:05:41,969 Even though I could have continued for a number of more years, 104 00:05:42,051 --> 00:05:44,301 possibly for two more Olympics, 105 00:05:44,386 --> 00:05:50,306 in 2006, I decided that I was going to move on with my life. 106 00:05:51,185 --> 00:05:53,145 I was a young man, 107 00:05:53,228 --> 00:05:57,018 I've achieved my lifetime dream. 108 00:05:57,107 --> 00:06:00,817 Um, and I thought, "Is there more here?" 109 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:06,869 For athletes, that transition away from the sport can be difficult. 110 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:10,750 You had something that is so consuming of all of your life, 111 00:06:11,580 --> 00:06:14,080 and then, all of a sudden, it isn't there. 112 00:06:14,166 --> 00:06:17,586 And you received adulation from it. 113 00:06:17,669 --> 00:06:19,209 Um, you have success, 114 00:06:19,296 --> 00:06:21,466 so the endorphins that come with it, 115 00:06:22,216 --> 00:06:25,006 um, and those from training as well. 116 00:06:25,094 --> 00:06:28,434 Being part of a group, a squad, um, that's familiar, 117 00:06:28,514 --> 00:06:30,354 that's there for you as well. 118 00:06:30,432 --> 00:06:33,272 That kind of disappears over a period of time. 119 00:06:33,352 --> 00:06:36,192 Um, and then adjusting to a new life. 120 00:06:36,271 --> 00:06:41,441 Um, that's difficult for anyone to go through that. 121 00:06:42,027 --> 00:06:45,487 The people who struggle are those that don't understand 122 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:50,332 that this major part of their lives does not exist anymore. 123 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:52,120 -[Heston] Yeah. -They're trying to adjust 124 00:06:52,204 --> 00:06:54,964 to what they think they should be moving into. 125 00:06:59,628 --> 00:07:01,708 [waves crashing] 126 00:07:20,107 --> 00:07:23,027 I told a lie once and said to the crowd 127 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:26,490 that I really liked hearing them cheer for me in the last 15 meters. 128 00:07:31,243 --> 00:07:34,373 You can't hear shit. You can't hear anything under water. 129 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:37,254 I can't hear a crowd underwater, only when you walk out. 130 00:07:38,041 --> 00:07:40,291 -[announcer 1] Bronte Campbell! -[crowd cheering] 131 00:07:40,377 --> 00:07:43,707 [announcer 2] It's the young Bronte, the silver medalist from Glasgow. 132 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:49,507 It's just this wall of sound and light, and it's loud. Noisy for ages. 133 00:07:49,595 --> 00:07:51,215 [crowd cheering] 134 00:07:55,559 --> 00:07:58,019 [Bronte] And then as they blow the whistle, 135 00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:00,613 and everyone goes completely quiet. 136 00:08:00,689 --> 00:08:02,069 -[whistle blows] -[cheering stops] 137 00:08:02,983 --> 00:08:04,443 [Bronte] No one's moving, 138 00:08:04,526 --> 00:08:06,566 and it feels like everyone's holding their breath. 139 00:08:07,237 --> 00:08:08,737 You all get on the blocks. 140 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:10,912 The guy goes, "Take your marks." 141 00:08:10,991 --> 00:08:12,581 It's always a guy. 142 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:14,039 [man] Take your marks. 143 00:08:14,536 --> 00:08:15,366 [horn blows] 144 00:08:16,997 --> 00:08:19,457 [Bronte] Then it's just straight into that underwater world 145 00:08:19,541 --> 00:08:22,381 of everything goes completely muted. 146 00:08:22,461 --> 00:08:24,091 There's not a lot going on. 147 00:08:25,214 --> 00:08:28,884 The noise the water makes when it moves past you is great. 148 00:08:28,967 --> 00:08:30,257 I love that noise. 149 00:08:32,054 --> 00:08:33,604 But it's almost like 150 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:37,060 only once I've seen my result did someone turn the sound back on. 151 00:08:37,142 --> 00:08:39,652 Everyone's just going nuts. It's a circus again. 152 00:08:39,728 --> 00:08:43,978 [announcer 1] Gains record time there for Bronte, and she can't believe it. 153 00:08:44,942 --> 00:08:48,242 [announcer 2] You would not have written this as a Hollywood script. 154 00:08:48,820 --> 00:08:50,280 Oh, my goodness. 155 00:08:50,364 --> 00:08:51,914 [crowd cheering] 156 00:08:53,575 --> 00:08:56,495 I love racing. I'm really good at it. [laughs] 157 00:08:56,578 --> 00:08:59,038 I'm way better at racing than I am at training. 158 00:08:59,122 --> 00:09:01,212 [crowd cheering] 159 00:09:01,291 --> 00:09:02,961 [announcer speaking indistinctly] 160 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:09,755 [Bronte] Every four years, you get a shot at something great, 161 00:09:09,841 --> 00:09:12,591 and you've got 30 seconds to make that happen. 162 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:17,470 Learning from that, for me, has always then been about 163 00:09:17,557 --> 00:09:20,937 trying to fall in love with the process of what I'm doing, 164 00:09:21,019 --> 00:09:23,399 and not make it about the gold medal. 165 00:09:25,607 --> 00:09:27,477 My actual goal for the Olympics 166 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:31,107 is to swim my fastest-ever time in an Olympic final. 167 00:09:31,196 --> 00:09:33,276 If I could swim a PB in an Olympic final, 168 00:09:33,365 --> 00:09:35,865 I'd be amongst very few that can do that. 169 00:09:37,286 --> 00:09:39,406 I'm thinking of this as my last Olympics. 170 00:09:39,496 --> 00:09:44,246 But I also don't want to cut off the possibility of ever coming back. 171 00:09:44,334 --> 00:09:48,094 The pull of the outside world is pretty strong for me at the moment. 172 00:09:48,171 --> 00:09:51,591 But when I get there, I might not like it more than swimming. 173 00:09:51,675 --> 00:09:53,585 And so I might wanna come back. 174 00:10:08,859 --> 00:10:10,189 [upbeat music playing] 175 00:10:18,827 --> 00:10:21,997 [Kyle] The men's 100 freestyle is that real alpha-type group. 176 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:30,507 These big alpha males in there, these big sprint boys... 177 00:10:30,589 --> 00:10:32,089 It's this big pissing contest. 178 00:10:32,174 --> 00:10:34,094 And you want to stand out as well. [chuckles] 179 00:10:37,012 --> 00:10:38,722 When I stand behind those blocks 180 00:10:38,805 --> 00:10:41,095 I like to think that it's my race. 181 00:10:41,850 --> 00:10:44,810 If I'm standing behind the blocks, I believe I can win. 182 00:10:44,895 --> 00:10:46,225 [Peter] What are you trying to do? 183 00:10:46,313 --> 00:10:47,773 Just be fucking fast. 184 00:10:47,856 --> 00:10:49,066 [Peter and Kyle laugh] 185 00:11:03,497 --> 00:11:04,617 [Peter] Two, one, go. 186 00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:07,247 Forty-seven less! 187 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:12,668 I love training. I love pushing myself to the absolute limit. 188 00:11:15,634 --> 00:11:17,434 I love pain. 189 00:11:18,220 --> 00:11:20,010 I think I'm addicted to pain. 190 00:11:24,935 --> 00:11:28,435 When you've got so much lap pain, you feel like you're gonna spew, 191 00:11:28,522 --> 00:11:30,362 I love pushing through that. 192 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,980 It's just so satisfying. 193 00:11:36,446 --> 00:11:40,026 You work so hard, day in, day out, for years and years, 194 00:11:40,117 --> 00:11:42,987 and then you get 47.5 seconds in the limelight. 195 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:49,500 [announcer] Eighteen years of age and he's the Olympic champion. 196 00:11:50,585 --> 00:11:54,375 Describe what it's like when your name's on the top of that list? 197 00:11:54,464 --> 00:11:57,264 It's unbelievable. I'm only 18. 198 00:11:57,342 --> 00:11:59,932 [announcer] Kyle Chalmers. 199 00:12:00,011 --> 00:12:01,971 [crowd cheering] 200 00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:03,515 [Kyle] Winning the gold medal in Rio 201 00:12:03,598 --> 00:12:06,138 was the most overwhelming experience of my life. 202 00:12:06,226 --> 00:12:10,726 [announcer] A new star of Australian swimming has emerged before our eyes. 203 00:12:10,814 --> 00:12:12,774 I've got goosebumps thinking about it. 204 00:12:14,025 --> 00:12:16,895 Look, I went away again, just turned 18, 205 00:12:16,987 --> 00:12:18,737 no one really knew who I was. 206 00:12:19,823 --> 00:12:21,073 I knew I could do well, 207 00:12:21,158 --> 00:12:24,158 but I didn't expect to win and become this national hero. 208 00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:28,080 [reporter] A royal reception for King Kyle. 209 00:12:28,165 --> 00:12:29,455 [all cheering] 210 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:33,499 [Kyle] Day-to-day life just changed so much for me. 211 00:12:33,587 --> 00:12:35,667 Everywhere I went, I was getting stopped. 212 00:12:36,214 --> 00:12:39,594 I would have signed thousands of photos and signatures. 213 00:12:40,177 --> 00:12:43,807 I'm happy that I've been able to achieve some great things 214 00:12:43,889 --> 00:12:45,679 that lots of people never have, 215 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,765 but I'm not satisfied. 216 00:12:53,899 --> 00:12:55,479 [instrumental music playing] 217 00:13:16,546 --> 00:13:20,086 [Cody] I grew up on the Gold Coast in Australia. 218 00:13:20,175 --> 00:13:23,885 The joke was that I was swimming before I could walk, 219 00:13:23,970 --> 00:13:26,430 and it's relatively true. 220 00:13:26,515 --> 00:13:28,765 I remember falling in love with it 221 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:30,600 from the very first time I raced. 222 00:13:30,685 --> 00:13:35,685 I won my first little race and got such a kick out of that feeling 223 00:13:35,774 --> 00:13:39,154 that I said, "This is actually something I could be good at." 224 00:13:39,236 --> 00:13:44,946 I remember making it through to my first Australian school nationals 225 00:13:45,033 --> 00:13:47,373 when I was 10 years old. 226 00:13:47,452 --> 00:13:51,252 And I remember winning eight gold medals at that nationals. 227 00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:53,541 I was then put on the radar 228 00:13:53,625 --> 00:13:55,375 to all the coaches in the country, 229 00:13:55,460 --> 00:13:58,170 and everyone started to look at me as like, "Okay, 230 00:13:58,255 --> 00:14:00,415 "if this guy continues on this path, 231 00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:03,177 "by the time he's 16 or 18, he'll be really good." 232 00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:05,470 I thought swimming would be the thing. 233 00:14:05,554 --> 00:14:07,144 [guitar music playing] 234 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:20,817 [Cody] But right around, uh, 12, 13, 235 00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:24,282 I was writing these songs, and Myspace had become a huge thing. 236 00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:27,784 And so I put songs that I wrote on guitar, on Myspace, 237 00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:32,037 and started to put videos of me playing on YouTube. 238 00:14:32,122 --> 00:14:35,672 Just covers of songs that I liked and things like that. 239 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:39,090 One of the videos hit a million views, 240 00:14:39,629 --> 00:14:41,839 kind of out of nowhere. 241 00:14:41,923 --> 00:14:44,933 It wasn't long after that that I was receiving interest 242 00:14:45,010 --> 00:14:48,220 from producers and record labels and stuff in the States 243 00:14:48,305 --> 00:14:52,925 because I was just somehow racking up these listens and views on Myspace. 244 00:14:53,018 --> 00:14:55,148 [singing upbeat song] 245 00:14:59,482 --> 00:15:02,652 Then we got a call, like, 246 00:15:02,736 --> 00:15:04,396 "We're offering you this deal. 247 00:15:04,487 --> 00:15:09,907 "You'll have to move to the States if you want to take this seriously." 248 00:15:10,535 --> 00:15:13,745 I said, "When else would this happen? 249 00:15:13,830 --> 00:15:15,540 "Like, I can't say no." 250 00:15:15,624 --> 00:15:17,504 So I had to do it. I took it. 251 00:15:17,584 --> 00:15:20,674 My family was supportive enough to come over with me. 252 00:15:21,463 --> 00:15:24,513 I started recording with the label that I had signed with 253 00:15:24,591 --> 00:15:27,971 and they were pretty eager to start releasing things. 254 00:15:28,053 --> 00:15:31,513 It wasn't long before that I was being sent out on tours, 255 00:15:31,598 --> 00:15:36,268 and it was just like my whole life had been turned on its head. 256 00:15:36,353 --> 00:15:37,773 [singing upbeat song] 257 00:15:43,902 --> 00:15:45,742 [crowd cheering] 258 00:15:52,702 --> 00:15:56,582 [Cody] The one thing I haven't really told too many people yet was that 259 00:15:56,665 --> 00:16:01,165 I knew for sure at some point I was going to come back to the sport. 260 00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:11,301 The day I stopped, for the last 10 years, 261 00:16:11,388 --> 00:16:14,638 I don't think there was a week or a day that went by 262 00:16:14,724 --> 00:16:16,814 that I didn't still think about swimming 263 00:16:16,893 --> 00:16:20,773 or try and figure out when I was going to swim again. 264 00:16:20,855 --> 00:16:23,525 But I just knew that I wasn't done with it. 265 00:16:23,608 --> 00:16:24,818 I knew that I had... 266 00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:27,988 You feel like you have unfinished business. 267 00:16:28,071 --> 00:16:31,241 If you feel like you have immense potential in something, 268 00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:36,254 it's like, if you stop short, that fire never goes away. 269 00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:38,159 So that fire never died in me. 270 00:16:38,248 --> 00:16:42,588 So that was really interesting, going about my business, 271 00:16:42,669 --> 00:16:46,719 touring and releasing music and being so wrapped up in this other life 272 00:16:46,798 --> 00:16:49,468 and still being like, "Is there a pool in this city?" 273 00:16:49,551 --> 00:16:50,971 Like, all that stuff. 274 00:16:51,636 --> 00:16:54,596 I would tell anybody I was close with, 275 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:57,271 "I'm gonna start training for the Olympics in 2020." 276 00:16:57,350 --> 00:17:00,560 They were like, "What? You're going to leave this behind?" 277 00:17:00,645 --> 00:17:04,815 I was like, "Yeah, for four years, I'm going to put everything else aside 278 00:17:04,899 --> 00:17:06,779 "and train for the Olympics." 279 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:10,700 It's hard to put a gauge on or have an expectation 280 00:17:11,740 --> 00:17:15,830 when something that doesn't have a rulebook or a playbook 281 00:17:15,910 --> 00:17:17,620 and hasn't been done before. 282 00:17:17,704 --> 00:17:22,544 No one's really ever stopped swimming at 13 and come back at 24. 283 00:17:22,625 --> 00:17:25,245 This is absolutely not like a random thing at all. 284 00:17:25,336 --> 00:17:28,716 This is nothing that was brought upon 285 00:17:28,798 --> 00:17:31,628 by COVID or out of boredom whatsoever. 286 00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:34,678 This has been my plan pretty much the whole time. 287 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,720 Definitely my plan the whole time. 288 00:17:38,433 --> 00:17:40,063 Do you know where the tape is? 289 00:17:44,689 --> 00:17:46,729 Yeah. Look at that. What do you know? 290 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:49,317 What do you know? 291 00:17:49,402 --> 00:17:50,322 Yeah? 292 00:17:50,904 --> 00:17:53,034 Crikey. [laughs] 293 00:17:55,283 --> 00:17:56,913 Yeah, I'm bloody moving. 294 00:17:58,536 --> 00:18:00,786 I don't know if this is sticky enough. 295 00:18:00,872 --> 00:18:04,882 We thought California would be semi back to normal by now. It's not. 296 00:18:05,627 --> 00:18:08,707 Finding places to train and finding pool space 297 00:18:08,797 --> 00:18:12,087 has been a weekly challenge for us for the last six months. 298 00:18:12,175 --> 00:18:15,085 Like training in a country club pool with no blocks, 299 00:18:15,178 --> 00:18:18,428 flags, even often with no lane ropes. 300 00:18:18,515 --> 00:18:22,435 Which is why we're going to Orlando and why we got to get out of LA. 301 00:18:22,936 --> 00:18:25,726 This is my little logo. 302 00:18:26,648 --> 00:18:29,188 On the inside I put the Olympic rings. 303 00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:32,278 And I started logging... 304 00:18:34,823 --> 00:18:38,203 I'm starting to log my, uh... 305 00:18:39,077 --> 00:18:42,367 just thoughts and progress in the pool and stuff. 306 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:45,285 The mental side of, like, 307 00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:48,625 traveling somewhere for a purpose helps. 308 00:18:48,711 --> 00:18:52,921 We're going to Orlando to train, so that's what we're going to do. 309 00:18:53,007 --> 00:18:57,677 It's much easier to do that and to dive, you know, 310 00:18:57,762 --> 00:19:02,352 as deeply, pardon the pun, into what I'm doing now. 311 00:19:03,685 --> 00:19:05,055 [cell phone ringing] 312 00:19:07,397 --> 00:19:09,357 -Ian. -[Thorpe] Hey, buddy. 313 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,030 [Cody] Growing up a swimmer in Australia, 314 00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:16,070 Ian Thorpe is the GOAT. 315 00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:20,115 He was like the first swimming superstar, you know? 316 00:19:20,201 --> 00:19:25,081 It's really epic to have somebody like him 317 00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:29,039 so interested in my journey. 318 00:19:30,295 --> 00:19:34,375 And willing enough to, uh, actually kind of assist 319 00:19:34,465 --> 00:19:36,125 and mentor me through it. 320 00:19:36,217 --> 00:19:38,297 Where are you at the moment? 321 00:19:38,386 --> 00:19:40,386 In LA. Um... 322 00:19:40,471 --> 00:19:45,391 Just literally packing up my whole house and moving out. [chuckles] 323 00:19:45,476 --> 00:19:46,846 -Oh, wow. -[Cody] Yeah. 324 00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:51,436 We're going to Orlando for a month to train long course. 325 00:19:51,524 --> 00:19:54,744 Obviously, as you know, before that, we were just in 326 00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:57,739 some pretty crappy pools, so... 327 00:19:58,323 --> 00:20:00,743 Seeing what you've actually done, 328 00:20:00,825 --> 00:20:03,195 having a start in your backyard pool, 329 00:20:03,286 --> 00:20:05,576 then trying to find lane space to train in. 330 00:20:05,663 --> 00:20:08,963 -Yeah. -This year is the year 331 00:20:09,042 --> 00:20:12,422 where you have to be able to adapt to all of these moving pieces, 332 00:20:12,503 --> 00:20:16,553 and have to be able... And the people who do that best 333 00:20:16,633 --> 00:20:19,053 will be able to perform the best. 334 00:20:19,135 --> 00:20:22,555 You're not gonna have the perfect day. You don't get to choose it. 335 00:20:22,639 --> 00:20:25,849 -How's training going? -Training is going really good. Um... 336 00:20:25,934 --> 00:20:29,234 Um, we fixed my fly a bit. 337 00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:32,484 Um, I want to show you what the stroke looks like. 338 00:20:32,565 --> 00:20:35,435 -It looks a lot better. -Awesome. Look forward to it. 339 00:20:35,526 --> 00:20:37,446 Awesome. Talk to you soon. 340 00:20:37,528 --> 00:20:38,568 Cool. All right. 341 00:20:38,655 --> 00:20:40,105 Catch you, mate. Cheers. 342 00:20:40,615 --> 00:20:41,655 [Thorpe] Okay. Bye. 343 00:20:44,118 --> 00:20:45,078 [exhales] 344 00:20:45,161 --> 00:20:47,411 [chuckles] Yeah. So cool. 345 00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:53,631 There are going to be people that really do not like Cody 346 00:20:53,711 --> 00:20:58,051 for what he's doing. And most of that comes out of jealousy. 347 00:20:58,675 --> 00:21:02,135 But he'll have media pressure. Like, "Why is he doing this?" 348 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:06,060 You know, "This is stupid. He wants the attention." 349 00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:09,060 Or "It's for his career in something else." 350 00:21:09,143 --> 00:21:11,813 You can find strength in proving people wrong, 351 00:21:11,896 --> 00:21:14,226 um, if you look at it that way. 352 00:21:15,233 --> 00:21:16,823 Right now... 353 00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:21,487 he wouldn't final at a national championship. 354 00:21:21,572 --> 00:21:23,282 That's the reality. 355 00:21:23,366 --> 00:21:28,326 Um, but the improvement that he's making, 356 00:21:28,413 --> 00:21:33,503 there's this possibility that he may be at a level 357 00:21:33,584 --> 00:21:35,754 where he can actually place, 358 00:21:35,837 --> 00:21:38,257 and I think with someone like that, 359 00:21:38,339 --> 00:21:43,139 that is making these momentous giant steps back, 360 00:21:43,761 --> 00:21:48,061 he shouldn't put restrictions on what he should be able to improve in a year. 361 00:21:53,604 --> 00:21:55,114 [crowd cheering] 362 00:21:57,191 --> 00:22:01,111 [Thorpe] In Australia, swimming is the most high-profile Olympic sport. 363 00:22:01,195 --> 00:22:03,525 That pressure that came from it, 364 00:22:03,614 --> 00:22:07,244 that's difficult for anyone to go through. 365 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:11,206 Parts of my sport that I enjoyed have been taken away from me. 366 00:22:11,289 --> 00:22:15,589 The parts that I didn't like were the ones that were being emphasized. 367 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:21,835 When I couldn't train and have the privacy around training that I wanted, 368 00:22:21,924 --> 00:22:24,304 um, that was it for me. 369 00:22:24,385 --> 00:22:27,845 And that's what happens for a lot of swimmers. 370 00:22:32,518 --> 00:22:34,688 [Kyle] It's a very convenient area. 371 00:22:34,771 --> 00:22:37,231 Um, everything's really close to me. 372 00:22:37,315 --> 00:22:41,235 Well, everything I need. I never leave this little bubble. 373 00:22:42,612 --> 00:22:44,912 And it's seven minutes to the pool. 374 00:22:46,407 --> 00:22:49,987 I went from being son of Brett Chalmers, [chuckles] 375 00:22:50,828 --> 00:22:53,208 to he went to father of Kyle Chalmers. 376 00:22:53,289 --> 00:22:55,919 -within 47 seconds, pretty much. -[interviewer chuckles] 377 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,250 Um, because he was that elite athlete. 378 00:22:58,336 --> 00:23:00,796 [announcer] Chalmers will get run down, gets the kick away. 379 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,420 It's a huge kick. 380 00:23:02,507 --> 00:23:04,217 [Kyle] He's a very strict, hard dad. 381 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:08,720 He's a real typical country, off-the-farm kind of man. 382 00:23:09,806 --> 00:23:12,306 As a kid, I always wanted to please him. 383 00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:16,691 No matter what, whether it was from racing, like competing to footy, 384 00:23:16,771 --> 00:23:19,521 whatever I was doing, it was like, "Look at this, Dad. 385 00:23:19,607 --> 00:23:21,567 "I'm doing it," type thing. [chuckles] 386 00:23:21,651 --> 00:23:24,031 And he was the best. He'd get up in the morning, 387 00:23:24,112 --> 00:23:26,952 drive me to training. And I hated training as a kid. 388 00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:28,991 I would not want to go. [chuckles] 389 00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:31,195 It would be the argument every morning 390 00:23:31,285 --> 00:23:33,365 when he'd come in, turn the lights on 391 00:23:33,454 --> 00:23:35,674 at like 3:30, 4:00 in the morning. 392 00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:37,998 I'd be like, "This sucks. I'm not getting up." 393 00:23:39,502 --> 00:23:44,382 Swimming coaches wanted me to swim before I played footy on a Saturday. 394 00:23:44,465 --> 00:23:46,675 I was like, "This is not possible for me. 395 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:48,549 "Footy is my main focus." [chuckles] 396 00:23:48,636 --> 00:23:50,386 [man] When did that focus shift for you? 397 00:23:50,471 --> 00:23:51,511 2015. 398 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:53,980 [announcer 1] Kyle Chalmers! 399 00:23:54,058 --> 00:23:56,848 [announcer 2] He's 16, he's been on the radar for Swimming Australia 400 00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:58,346 for a couple of years now, 401 00:23:58,437 --> 00:24:02,397 [Kyle] In 2015, it was the World Championships trials for Kazan. 402 00:24:02,483 --> 00:24:05,783 I was still focused on footy. I was doing footy pre-season. 403 00:24:05,862 --> 00:24:10,072 [announcer] Here's Chalmers, just 16 years of age, the baby of the competition... 404 00:24:10,158 --> 00:24:14,368 [Kyle] Made it through the semifinals, ranked third going into the finals. 405 00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:18,123 And I remember that 24 hours from the semi to the final, 406 00:24:18,207 --> 00:24:21,287 dreading it, going, "I do not want to make this team." 407 00:24:21,377 --> 00:24:23,047 [announcer] McEvoy's in... 408 00:24:23,129 --> 00:24:24,709 [Kyle] I think that final, 409 00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:29,087 I don't actually think I swam the best I possibly could have swam 410 00:24:29,177 --> 00:24:32,047 because I knew that I didn't want to be on that team. 411 00:24:32,138 --> 00:24:35,308 [announcer] And McEvoy surprises again! 412 00:24:35,391 --> 00:24:37,641 I ended up making the team. [laughs] 413 00:24:40,855 --> 00:24:42,975 Two months out from world champs. 414 00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:46,605 Played a game of footy 'cause my dad was the coach of the school team. 415 00:24:46,694 --> 00:24:50,164 Ended up cracking a bone in my wrist falling down. 416 00:24:50,239 --> 00:24:52,989 So I couldn't swim with the wrist. 417 00:24:53,075 --> 00:24:56,115 I had the head coach of Swimming Australia call me in and go, 418 00:24:56,204 --> 00:24:59,124 "You've got to make this decision right here, right now. 419 00:24:59,207 --> 00:25:02,247 "You playing footy or representing Australia at swimming?" 420 00:25:02,335 --> 00:25:03,995 The only reason I chose swimming 421 00:25:04,086 --> 00:25:06,256 was 'cause I'd signed on and I'd earn money. 422 00:25:06,339 --> 00:25:07,299 That was great. 423 00:25:07,381 --> 00:25:11,221 But for me, that was one of the hardest decisions I've ever made. 424 00:25:11,302 --> 00:25:13,182 [announcer] Second swimmer in for Australia. 425 00:25:13,262 --> 00:25:15,892 The youngster, the teenager, Kyle Chalmers. 426 00:25:15,973 --> 00:25:18,773 It's been a really good swim from him. 427 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:22,691 [Kyle] World Champs in 2015, I was going to Kazan. 428 00:25:22,772 --> 00:25:24,862 Only South Australian kid going. 429 00:25:24,941 --> 00:25:27,111 Didn't know a single swimmer at all. 430 00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:29,570 I remember crying. [chuckles] 431 00:25:29,654 --> 00:25:31,614 "No, I don't want to go." 432 00:25:31,697 --> 00:25:37,367 Uh, Mum crying, Dad being that, "What the hell are you crying about? 433 00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:39,293 "Get it together," type thing. 434 00:25:39,372 --> 00:25:42,122 [announcer] And it's the baby of the team, Chalmers. 435 00:25:42,208 --> 00:25:44,878 He wasn't even born when teammate Grant Hackett 436 00:25:44,961 --> 00:25:48,091 contested his first World Championships in... 437 00:25:48,172 --> 00:25:49,422 [Kyle] I was 16 at the time, 438 00:25:49,507 --> 00:25:52,717 so I'm the second-youngest male to ever represent Australia, 439 00:25:52,802 --> 00:25:54,352 behind Ian Thorpe, so... 440 00:25:54,428 --> 00:25:56,388 That was a very daunting experience. 441 00:25:56,472 --> 00:25:58,312 [announcer] Well done, young man. 442 00:25:58,391 --> 00:26:01,191 Kyle Chalmers closes it out for Australia. 443 00:26:01,269 --> 00:26:03,439 [Kyle] Australia did extremely well that year. 444 00:26:03,521 --> 00:26:06,571 I remember being so proud of these guys winning gold medals, 445 00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:08,569 and I went, "Swimming's really cool. 446 00:26:08,651 --> 00:26:11,071 "This is something I actually want to do." 447 00:26:11,153 --> 00:26:14,073 After that, I wanted to be an Olympian desperately. 448 00:26:14,156 --> 00:26:15,156 [tattoo machine whirring] 449 00:26:17,159 --> 00:26:18,789 [Kyle] All right, let's do it. 450 00:26:18,869 --> 00:26:21,159 -Ready? -Yeah. Yes, Laz. 451 00:26:21,247 --> 00:26:22,497 Yes, Laz. 452 00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:24,461 [tattoo machine whirring] 453 00:26:24,542 --> 00:26:26,632 [Kyle] Laz is one of my best mates. 454 00:26:26,711 --> 00:26:30,591 We come from two completely different walks of life. 455 00:26:30,673 --> 00:26:32,633 He's a tattoo artist. 456 00:26:32,717 --> 00:26:35,257 [Laz] How does that feel? Pressure's okay? 457 00:26:35,344 --> 00:26:37,564 -Mate, you're killing me. -Really? 458 00:26:37,638 --> 00:26:39,638 -Are we almost done? -No. 459 00:26:39,724 --> 00:26:41,564 [Kyle] We just hit it off really well, 460 00:26:41,642 --> 00:26:43,562 and I never talk to him about tattoos, 461 00:26:43,644 --> 00:26:45,984 and he never talks to me about swimming. 462 00:26:46,063 --> 00:26:48,523 He probably doesn't even know what event I swim. 463 00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:54,362 Back in today, Laz is putting the butterfly-bee on me, so... 464 00:26:54,447 --> 00:26:56,067 Uh, a great Muhammad Ali quote. 465 00:26:56,157 --> 00:26:58,577 "Float like a butterfly. Sting like a bee." 466 00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:01,695 -I think it's a... -"Rumble, young man, rumble." 467 00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:03,207 ...very cool quote. 468 00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:09,382 For me, I've always wanted to get tattoos. 469 00:27:09,462 --> 00:27:13,262 Um, I think mainly because my mom always said no. 470 00:27:13,341 --> 00:27:14,761 I'm the person that, 471 00:27:14,842 --> 00:27:17,892 if I'm told no, it makes me want to get it even more, so... 472 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:19,510 -[Laz] Sorry, Jodie. -Sorry, Jodie. 473 00:27:19,597 --> 00:27:21,137 -But we're back. -[Laz] We love you. 474 00:27:23,768 --> 00:27:27,358 I remember when I was maybe 16, when I made my first Australian team, 475 00:27:27,438 --> 00:27:29,728 we get given a number on the swim team. 476 00:27:29,815 --> 00:27:32,525 So I'm number 761. 477 00:27:32,610 --> 00:27:36,360 So that means I'm the 761st person to represent Australia. 478 00:27:36,447 --> 00:27:37,907 That was such a proud moment. 479 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:40,240 I was like, "I want to get that tattooed." 480 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:43,696 And from there, the addiction's kicked off. 481 00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:47,328 When I got back from the Olympics is when I got more tattoos. 482 00:27:51,045 --> 00:27:55,335 Then I got the number 31 on my wrist here for the 31st Olympics. 483 00:27:55,424 --> 00:27:58,394 He did that there, which is "Citius Altius Fortius," 484 00:27:58,469 --> 00:28:00,679 which is the Olympic motto. 485 00:28:00,763 --> 00:28:02,813 After World Championships in 2019, 486 00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:05,810 I came in and got my first side of my sleeve done. 487 00:28:05,893 --> 00:28:08,353 I got a big lion to represent courage. 488 00:28:08,437 --> 00:28:13,357 Uh, I wanted that with a chain going down to my heart. 489 00:28:13,442 --> 00:28:15,282 I've had three heart surgeries. 490 00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:18,991 And the broken chain is like the heart was holding me back. 491 00:28:19,073 --> 00:28:20,833 Now the heart's been fixed, 492 00:28:20,908 --> 00:28:23,488 so the chain's been broken, and I'm the lion. 493 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:27,460 It's called Supraventricular tachycardia. 494 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:29,670 I have an extra circuit in my heart. 495 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:32,670 My heart rate would go 200 plus and stay up there. 496 00:28:32,753 --> 00:28:35,713 I'd feel dizzy and be close to blacking out. 497 00:28:35,798 --> 00:28:39,798 Then it started to happen more frequently, started happening in the pool. 498 00:28:39,885 --> 00:28:43,715 So they decided to burn that extra circuit. 499 00:28:43,806 --> 00:28:44,806 And it grew back. 500 00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:48,640 2015, I had it. 2017, had another surgery. They thought they'd fixed it. 501 00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,897 They took the circuit out the last time, no issues since. 502 00:28:51,981 --> 00:28:56,151 But, yeah, it's a lot more common than people think and know. 503 00:28:58,112 --> 00:29:00,202 -[Laz] It's done. -Legend. 504 00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:03,159 That's cool. 505 00:29:03,242 --> 00:29:05,242 Cool, cool, mate. Very cool. 506 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,909 -There you go, mate. -Thank you. 507 00:29:08,998 --> 00:29:10,748 -Well done. -Well done. 508 00:29:10,833 --> 00:29:13,793 [Hanson] Four years after Kyle Chalmers won the Olympic gold medal, 509 00:29:13,878 --> 00:29:15,418 he's ready for phase two. 510 00:29:15,504 --> 00:29:18,884 It's not going to be easy for him to defend. 511 00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:21,046 He's had his hurdles to overcome too. 512 00:29:21,135 --> 00:29:24,215 Um, he's had his heart issues. He's had shoulder surgery. 513 00:29:24,305 --> 00:29:27,555 But if anyone can overcome hurdles, I'm sure Kyle can. 514 00:29:29,018 --> 00:29:32,728 If we look at who has one, two 100 meters freestyles, 515 00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:34,323 the Duke has, 516 00:29:34,398 --> 00:29:40,278 and Johnny Weissmuller also defended and won two in a row, 517 00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:44,829 two iconic swimmers from a completely different era. 518 00:29:44,909 --> 00:29:47,499 When we go to more recent history, 519 00:29:47,578 --> 00:29:50,788 there's Pieter van den Hoogenband, um, and Alex Popov. 520 00:29:50,873 --> 00:29:53,673 They're the two best sprinters that the world's seen. 521 00:29:53,751 --> 00:29:57,591 That list is a significant list. 522 00:29:57,671 --> 00:30:00,721 But Kyle has the chance to join that. 523 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,219 He is under pressure. 524 00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:05,801 Um, but part of that pressure will be what motivates him to train well. 525 00:30:11,143 --> 00:30:14,653 [Bronte] Having gone to two Olympics and four World Championships 526 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:16,570 [chuckling] and two Commonwealth Games... 527 00:30:16,649 --> 00:30:19,569 I've been doing this for almost 10 years. 528 00:30:19,652 --> 00:30:23,912 I know not to set expectations, especially these games. 529 00:30:23,989 --> 00:30:27,619 Nobody knows what they'll look like, if we're going to have crowds, 530 00:30:27,701 --> 00:30:29,411 who's going to go over there. 531 00:30:29,495 --> 00:30:32,285 We don't know how long we're going to be over there for. 532 00:30:32,373 --> 00:30:36,293 I just focus on doing the next best thing, and the next best thing. 533 00:30:37,503 --> 00:30:39,303 All that swimming is just like... 534 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:43,550 Just trying to get from one wall to the other faster than someone else. 535 00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:47,144 What that is is breaking down every single moment into 536 00:30:47,221 --> 00:30:49,931 what's coming now and now and now and now, 537 00:30:50,015 --> 00:30:53,635 for every millisecond of 52 seconds, 538 00:30:53,727 --> 00:30:55,977 which is an intense amount of concentration. 539 00:31:00,568 --> 00:31:03,528 Everything in my life's so fast. 540 00:31:03,612 --> 00:31:07,492 My races are decided by one hundredths of a second. 541 00:31:08,993 --> 00:31:13,163 But, um, plants, they force you to slow down a bit. 542 00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:17,634 You've got these things that take a little bit of a slow time. 543 00:31:17,710 --> 00:31:21,760 You look after them, care for them, and very slowly, they reward you. 544 00:31:22,506 --> 00:31:25,756 Like, this guy I've had since he was about half that height. 545 00:31:25,843 --> 00:31:28,603 Went through issues. He's got burned leaves. 546 00:31:28,679 --> 00:31:30,509 You look after him for a few months 547 00:31:30,598 --> 00:31:33,728 and he pops out a new leaf, and you're celebrating that, 548 00:31:33,809 --> 00:31:36,229 and suddenly, that's the highlight of your day. 549 00:31:38,606 --> 00:31:41,526 Doesn't really say "ruthless swimmer," does it? 550 00:31:41,609 --> 00:31:44,899 But I've made it that way on purpose. 551 00:31:44,987 --> 00:31:48,987 It's a bit of a antidote against the outside world, 552 00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:51,044 which is a bit fast and furious. 553 00:31:53,454 --> 00:31:54,834 [reporter] In breaking news, 554 00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:58,463 several states have now declared all of Sydney a hot spot 555 00:31:58,542 --> 00:32:00,842 and will soon slam their borders shut. 556 00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:04,839 Sydneysiders are no longer welcome anywhere beyond New South Wales. 557 00:32:05,758 --> 00:32:08,138 [Bronte] COVID's this thing that keeps popping up. 558 00:32:08,218 --> 00:32:10,598 It's like some weed that goes underground 559 00:32:10,679 --> 00:32:12,809 and just pops up somewhere else. 560 00:32:12,890 --> 00:32:17,310 It's not great when you hear places are going into lockdown. 561 00:32:17,394 --> 00:32:20,024 It's not what I thought would be happening. 562 00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:23,605 Before Christmas, I thought I'd go up to Brisbane, no worries. 563 00:32:23,692 --> 00:32:26,072 I thought I could see my family over Christmas, 564 00:32:26,153 --> 00:32:28,073 but not to be. 565 00:32:29,657 --> 00:32:30,657 [line ringing] 566 00:32:32,326 --> 00:32:34,076 -[Simon] Hello. -Hey, how are you? 567 00:32:35,663 --> 00:32:37,413 -[Simon] Good. Yourself? -Yeah, good. 568 00:32:37,498 --> 00:32:41,378 Do you reckon I could go to Canberra and train there for a bit? 569 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:44,130 So I could be with Shannon's squad 570 00:32:44,213 --> 00:32:46,093 then go up to Brisbane after that? 571 00:32:46,882 --> 00:32:49,722 [Simon] At this stage, best option would be 572 00:32:49,802 --> 00:32:51,722 quarantine in New South Wales. 573 00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:52,894 Yeah, okay. 574 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:57,391 We'll stick to Port Macquarie, but it'll just be... 575 00:32:57,976 --> 00:33:00,646 It'll just be me, then, without the other squad. 576 00:33:00,729 --> 00:33:01,729 [Simon] Yeah. 577 00:33:02,481 --> 00:33:03,941 -Okay. -Thanks for that. 578 00:33:04,024 --> 00:33:05,784 -[Simon] See you, Bronts. -See you, Simon. 579 00:33:05,859 --> 00:33:06,779 [Simon] Bye. 580 00:33:07,611 --> 00:33:10,111 It's stressful when you just want to get into it. 581 00:33:10,197 --> 00:33:13,777 I just want train with my squad and coach, and crack into it. 582 00:33:13,867 --> 00:33:15,697 It's 2021, an Olympic year again. 583 00:33:17,287 --> 00:33:20,207 If I have to train by myself for two weeks, that's fine. 584 00:33:20,708 --> 00:33:22,958 I'll just head up to Port Macquarie... 585 00:33:24,128 --> 00:33:25,798 stay up there for two weeks, 586 00:33:25,879 --> 00:33:29,429 and hopefully that'll be the best way to get me into Brisbane. 587 00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:33,718 All I need to do is find a way across the border, basically. 588 00:33:33,804 --> 00:33:37,104 We're just having two friends over from up the road, 589 00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:38,772 we'll cook some food, 590 00:33:38,851 --> 00:33:41,481 and break the news that we're going to have to... 591 00:33:42,229 --> 00:33:44,899 leave, and I'm not gonna be back for a few months. 592 00:33:44,982 --> 00:33:46,282 Do you have a knife? 593 00:33:46,859 --> 00:33:48,489 When you're an elite athlete, 594 00:33:48,569 --> 00:33:51,159 you make the decision that's best for your sport. 595 00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:55,868 And we put in my swimming before pretty much anything else. 596 00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:57,491 Just for this little bit. 597 00:33:57,578 --> 00:33:58,748 Let's have a toast. 598 00:33:58,829 --> 00:34:00,159 Cheers to Bronte. 599 00:34:00,247 --> 00:34:01,787 -We'll miss you. -[Bronte] Cheers. 600 00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:04,424 -[woman] Good luck. -[man] We'll miss you, Bronte. 601 00:34:04,501 --> 00:34:05,671 I'll miss you guys. 602 00:34:07,212 --> 00:34:08,802 [alarm ringing] 603 00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:12,381 [Cody sighs] 604 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,600 [grunts] 605 00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:28,320 What's on the menu today? 606 00:34:29,276 --> 00:34:31,816 [Brett] I'm working on the quote of the day today. 607 00:34:32,654 --> 00:34:33,864 By Nietzsche. 608 00:34:34,948 --> 00:34:39,408 He was one the first to say that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. 609 00:34:39,495 --> 00:34:41,955 I'm doing something very similar to that. 610 00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:46,339 "He who has a why to live can bear almost any how." 611 00:34:47,252 --> 00:34:49,172 -That is the quote today. -Is it? 612 00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:51,764 -[chuckles] Yeah. -Yes! 613 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,010 [Cody laughs] 614 00:34:53,801 --> 00:34:54,641 That is it. 615 00:34:55,385 --> 00:34:57,215 This guy's got some good stuff. 616 00:34:57,304 --> 00:34:58,764 -I love it. -Yeah. 617 00:34:58,847 --> 00:35:00,967 [Cody] When I met my coach, Brett, 618 00:35:01,058 --> 00:35:03,308 we got connected through some mutual friends, 619 00:35:03,393 --> 00:35:06,363 and we started chatting during the lockdown. 620 00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:10,438 And I told him I wanted to start swimming again and training. 621 00:35:10,526 --> 00:35:15,816 I think the first day he got to LA, he gave me this really nasty set. 622 00:35:15,906 --> 00:35:18,276 By the end, I was just completely drained. 623 00:35:18,367 --> 00:35:21,697 I stared at him like, "Why you doing this to me the first day?" 624 00:35:21,787 --> 00:35:23,747 He's like, "You want to be a swimmer?" 625 00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:26,421 I'm like, "Yeah, I do." He said, "That's why." 626 00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:28,130 [Brett] It's all about... 627 00:35:28,252 --> 00:35:30,712 It's all about routine and habits, my friends. 628 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:33,590 Routines give you confidence. 629 00:35:34,925 --> 00:35:38,675 I am a two-time Olympic athlete for Australia, 630 00:35:38,762 --> 00:35:44,272 and then was coaching at Auburn University from 2006 to 2018. 631 00:35:44,351 --> 00:35:46,851 You don't need to engage your abs to float. 632 00:35:46,937 --> 00:35:50,067 But once you do the hips... 633 00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:52,898 [Brett] Matt is a two-time Olympian as well. 634 00:35:52,985 --> 00:35:54,485 He is an NCAA Champion. 635 00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:58,240 To have someone in your corner as a teammate, 636 00:35:58,323 --> 00:36:00,583 as a friend, as a training partner, 637 00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:03,289 it's been super critical for us, actually. 638 00:36:03,370 --> 00:36:06,290 You're shifting weight from one side to the next. 639 00:36:06,373 --> 00:36:09,713 Here, here, boom, shift. 640 00:36:09,793 --> 00:36:11,803 [Cody] First thing I told my coach, Brett, was, 641 00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:14,209 "I want you to make me great in four years." 642 00:36:14,298 --> 00:36:16,878 But after that first four weeks of training, 643 00:36:16,967 --> 00:36:19,547 he said "I could make you great in 12 months." 644 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:23,180 I was like, "Okay, I trust you." 645 00:36:23,265 --> 00:36:25,175 You have to trust your coach, right? 646 00:36:25,267 --> 00:36:26,727 Every hundredth counts. 647 00:36:28,228 --> 00:36:32,358 [Cody] He said, "I could have you competing at Olympic trials next year." 648 00:36:32,441 --> 00:36:34,231 I said, "All right, I'm in." 649 00:36:34,318 --> 00:36:35,568 [Brett] Let's get it on. 650 00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:37,953 Time is against us. 651 00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:40,070 Cody's gonna have a lot of eyes on him. 652 00:36:40,157 --> 00:36:43,037 The swimming world will be watching what he's doing. 653 00:36:43,118 --> 00:36:44,578 There's more pressure on him 654 00:36:44,661 --> 00:36:47,751 than any other swimmer I've met, other than Michael Phelps. 655 00:36:47,831 --> 00:36:49,631 He's world-renowned. 656 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:55,088 So I'm gonna put him in uncomfortable situations physically, mentally. 657 00:36:55,172 --> 00:36:58,342 He's not going to feel like he wants to be in that space, 658 00:36:58,425 --> 00:37:01,795 but I'm gonna force him to keep going back into that space, 659 00:37:01,887 --> 00:37:04,557 so that when we get to the moment of truth, 660 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,600 we're 100% prepared. 661 00:37:06,683 --> 00:37:09,563 I want speed, I want race. As fast as you can now. 662 00:37:09,645 --> 00:37:10,845 Listen for the whistle. 663 00:37:10,938 --> 00:37:12,268 Clear your mind. 664 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:14,360 [whistle blows] 665 00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:23,408 [Brett] He's getting beat every time. 666 00:37:23,492 --> 00:37:26,662 This is where the competition in practice is so critical. 667 00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:27,615 [whistle blows] 668 00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:31,747 [Brett] Yeah. Yeah. Yes, that's it. 669 00:37:31,833 --> 00:37:34,343 It's gonna get heavy here. You'll feel this one. 670 00:37:34,419 --> 00:37:35,339 [whistle blows] 671 00:37:40,008 --> 00:37:41,048 [Cody] Fuck. 672 00:37:41,134 --> 00:37:43,394 [Brett] Too heavy? Let's get it. Come on, find a way. 673 00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:46,180 Think of staying bigger in that point. 674 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:48,024 -[whistle blows] -[Brett] Go. 675 00:37:49,476 --> 00:37:52,846 Push! Push! Push! Up! 676 00:37:53,397 --> 00:37:54,357 Yes! 677 00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:55,569 [whistle blows] 678 00:38:05,993 --> 00:38:08,703 [Brett] It's a little faster. That was too comfortable. 679 00:38:14,501 --> 00:38:17,171 30.3. That's a lot closer there. 680 00:38:17,254 --> 00:38:18,554 Only 3/10ths off. 681 00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:21,844 Considering what an Olympian needs to do 682 00:38:21,925 --> 00:38:24,385 in the 12 months leading up to the games... 683 00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:29,313 [Brett] 2.25, man. You got this. 684 00:38:29,391 --> 00:38:31,021 [Thorpe] It means that when you wake up 685 00:38:31,101 --> 00:38:34,061 and you don't know which part of your body isn't sore, 686 00:38:34,146 --> 00:38:35,766 -you keep going to training. -[whistle blows] 687 00:38:35,856 --> 00:38:37,266 [Brett] Come on. Push! 688 00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:44,909 [Cody groans] 689 00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:48,827 When it hurts incredibly, 690 00:38:49,327 --> 00:38:52,157 you find something else to give. 691 00:38:53,248 --> 00:38:54,998 You find more. 692 00:38:56,293 --> 00:38:57,253 [vomits] 693 00:39:01,048 --> 00:39:02,258 [upbeat music playing] 53904

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