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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,329 I grew up in a really brutal household. 4 00:01:35,363 --> 00:01:37,598 There was a lot of physical abuse, emotional abuse. 5 00:01:38,499 --> 00:01:39,800 On my 15th birthday, 6 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:42,270 my father woke me up and kicked me out of the house. 7 00:01:42,303 --> 00:01:44,472 That was the last time I've seen anybody in my family. 8 00:01:53,781 --> 00:01:55,583 I was 15-years-old 9 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:58,419 with a grocery bag full of clothes and that was it. 10 00:01:58,452 --> 00:01:59,487 And I was thumbing down the highway, 11 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,930 trying to figure out what to do next, 12 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:02,523 and this guy picked me up. 13 00:02:02,556 --> 00:02:03,824 It didn't take him very long 14 00:02:03,857 --> 00:02:05,159 to figure out what was going on, 15 00:02:05,193 --> 00:02:07,728 and he gave me a place to stay and a job, you know. 16 00:02:07,761 --> 00:02:10,298 On the condition that I kept going to school. 17 00:02:10,331 --> 00:02:11,565 Then he taught me how to cook. 18 00:02:14,868 --> 00:02:17,171 There was this girl, Susan, that I met, 19 00:02:17,205 --> 00:02:18,339 and we fell in love 20 00:02:18,372 --> 00:02:19,840 and we got pregnant. 21 00:02:22,810 --> 00:02:24,044 It just kind of blew me away. 22 00:02:24,077 --> 00:02:27,515 I was still a kid, but now I'm gonna have a kid. 23 00:02:27,548 --> 00:02:29,550 And then we had the baby, and... 24 00:02:30,818 --> 00:02:32,386 It was amazing. I mean... 25 00:02:33,554 --> 00:02:35,623 There's this little 26 00:02:35,656 --> 00:02:37,057 thing... There's this baby there, 27 00:02:37,090 --> 00:02:39,560 and it's alive and it needs you for everything right now. 28 00:02:39,593 --> 00:02:40,761 It can't... 29 00:02:40,794 --> 00:02:42,372 The only thing it knows how to do right now 30 00:02:42,396 --> 00:02:43,631 is breathe and poop. 31 00:02:43,664 --> 00:02:44,632 It's depending on you for 32 00:02:44,665 --> 00:02:45,933 everything else you need to do. 33 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:47,100 And that was just like... 34 00:02:47,134 --> 00:02:49,737 It was really, really overwhelming, you know. 35 00:02:49,770 --> 00:02:51,772 It was just... Wow. 36 00:02:51,805 --> 00:02:54,542 Up until that point, my biggest concern was 37 00:02:54,575 --> 00:02:56,210 putting gas in my car. 38 00:02:56,244 --> 00:02:57,787 You know, what was I going to have for dinner? 39 00:02:57,811 --> 00:03:00,548 And now, there's something dependent on me. 40 00:03:00,581 --> 00:03:02,216 It was... It was... 41 00:03:02,250 --> 00:03:03,917 It was an awakening, it really was. 42 00:04:25,032 --> 00:04:26,334 So how are you all doing? 43 00:04:26,367 --> 00:04:27,711 You guys have been here for about... 44 00:04:27,735 --> 00:04:29,403 Well, some of you for years, 45 00:04:29,437 --> 00:04:30,738 and some of you just got here. 46 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:31,805 Let's start with you. 47 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,607 You've been here a very short time. 48 00:04:33,641 --> 00:04:35,443 What do you think of this place? 49 00:04:35,476 --> 00:04:36,677 I mean, I enjoy living here. 50 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:38,912 I mean, the rent's not killing us 51 00:04:38,946 --> 00:04:40,414 or anything like that. 52 00:04:40,448 --> 00:04:41,915 It's an adjustment from prison? 53 00:04:43,016 --> 00:04:44,051 Yeah. 54 00:04:44,084 --> 00:04:46,554 Yeah. I mean, it definitely took some adjustment 55 00:04:46,587 --> 00:04:48,489 just getting used to 56 00:04:48,522 --> 00:04:50,824 living outside and stuff like that. 57 00:04:50,858 --> 00:04:53,627 How long do you think it takes to kind of decompress? 58 00:04:55,663 --> 00:04:56,930 I've decompressed a lot, 59 00:04:56,964 --> 00:04:58,932 but I wouldn't say that I'm totally there yet. 60 00:04:58,966 --> 00:05:00,534 Okay, okay. 61 00:05:00,568 --> 00:05:02,002 I still got some quirks. 62 00:05:02,035 --> 00:05:03,880 I've been out for six years and I'm still decompressing. 63 00:05:03,904 --> 00:05:06,039 - Really? Wow. - Yes, sir. 64 00:05:06,073 --> 00:05:07,775 That's why I like being here in the park. 65 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:08,976 I'm fairly insulated. 66 00:05:09,009 --> 00:05:11,054 I mean, I can still branch out and go do what I gotta do, 67 00:05:11,078 --> 00:05:12,713 but here I'm kind of insulated. 68 00:05:12,746 --> 00:05:15,115 Everybody's been through what I've been through, so... 69 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:16,817 You know, there's that understanding. 70 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:18,819 People can talk when you stop on the street. 71 00:05:18,852 --> 00:05:20,388 Instead of just saying hi, 72 00:05:20,421 --> 00:05:21,965 they stop and talk about what they're going through. 73 00:05:21,989 --> 00:05:24,825 Yeah. I've been able to open up more here, 74 00:05:24,858 --> 00:05:27,695 'cause I never had that opportunity before. 75 00:05:27,728 --> 00:05:30,631 So, that's actually a very good thing for me. 76 00:05:30,664 --> 00:05:33,801 The strength is in the camaraderie, 77 00:05:33,834 --> 00:05:35,736 and that's what makes this place work. 78 00:05:35,769 --> 00:05:37,838 I'm only here couple of hours a week. 79 00:05:37,871 --> 00:05:39,907 It's you guys being there for each other 80 00:05:39,940 --> 00:05:41,108 that makes the difference. 81 00:06:05,499 --> 00:06:06,834 I usually get bored. 82 00:06:07,635 --> 00:06:09,737 That's one of the... 83 00:06:09,770 --> 00:06:12,440 the big problems for me, if I start to get bored, 84 00:06:12,473 --> 00:06:15,643 I start looking for some trouble to get into. 85 00:06:15,676 --> 00:06:17,678 Idle hands, tools of the devil. 86 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,484 An average day, I would go to work for six-seven hours. 87 00:06:23,517 --> 00:06:26,687 I would come home. I would either play a computer game, 88 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,157 or surf the Internet, or look at pornography 89 00:06:31,024 --> 00:06:32,526 until I fell asleep. 90 00:06:33,026 --> 00:06:34,628 That was my life. 91 00:06:38,766 --> 00:06:40,734 I was choosing unhealthy things, 92 00:06:40,768 --> 00:06:42,002 specifically the pornography, 93 00:06:42,803 --> 00:06:44,137 to spend time with. 94 00:06:48,709 --> 00:06:52,112 Between the first time I had sex, 95 00:06:52,145 --> 00:06:53,814 and the time I got arrested, 96 00:06:53,847 --> 00:06:56,550 any girlfriend that I had, it was always 97 00:06:56,584 --> 00:06:58,586 me trying to push 'em towards sex. 98 00:06:59,820 --> 00:07:02,022 I had convinced myself in my head 99 00:07:02,055 --> 00:07:05,593 that, you know, everybody else is having sex. 100 00:07:05,626 --> 00:07:08,762 When I finally had a girl that I was interested in, 101 00:07:08,796 --> 00:07:10,030 she rejected me. 102 00:07:13,834 --> 00:07:15,636 So I got really angry that night. 103 00:07:15,669 --> 00:07:18,839 I didn't have anything else to do, 104 00:07:18,872 --> 00:07:22,643 and I borrowed a car from family that was there 105 00:07:22,676 --> 00:07:23,956 and drove all the way to Mexico. 106 00:07:25,813 --> 00:07:27,981 I drove around for maybe two or three hours, 107 00:07:28,015 --> 00:07:30,484 looking for the red light district. 108 00:07:30,518 --> 00:07:33,654 I couldn't find a prostitute. 109 00:07:33,687 --> 00:07:36,056 I'd just get angrier and angrier and angrier. 110 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,961 Finally, 111 00:07:40,994 --> 00:07:43,063 I found this little girl. 112 00:07:43,096 --> 00:07:45,132 And she was walking with her cousin 113 00:07:45,165 --> 00:07:49,069 and I grabbed her and I threw her into the car 114 00:07:49,102 --> 00:07:50,538 and I drove off. 115 00:07:51,204 --> 00:07:53,574 They were closer to his house. 116 00:07:53,607 --> 00:07:55,909 And the little cousin ran over to the house. 117 00:07:58,646 --> 00:08:01,181 And... 118 00:08:03,884 --> 00:08:07,621 And his uncle, or whoever it was, 119 00:08:07,655 --> 00:08:10,157 they hop in the car and they start chasing me 120 00:08:10,190 --> 00:08:12,225 all over kingdom come. 121 00:08:13,193 --> 00:08:15,629 Finally I'm able to lose them... 122 00:08:18,732 --> 00:08:20,000 And... 123 00:08:23,571 --> 00:08:25,005 That's when I did my... 124 00:08:26,674 --> 00:08:28,542 I did those... I raped her. 125 00:08:46,894 --> 00:08:48,328 Florida Justice Transitions 126 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:52,700 is a program designed to transition felons, 127 00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:55,168 or at risk populations in general, 128 00:08:55,202 --> 00:08:56,770 back into society 129 00:08:56,804 --> 00:08:58,739 so that they may become productive citizens. 130 00:09:00,808 --> 00:09:03,911 All of the staff here are sex offenders 131 00:09:03,944 --> 00:09:06,313 that have been through the program themselves 132 00:09:06,346 --> 00:09:08,181 and they want to give back. 133 00:09:10,684 --> 00:09:14,955 I was convicted of solicitation via the Internet. 134 00:09:14,988 --> 00:09:17,758 And I came here out of prison. 135 00:09:17,791 --> 00:09:21,061 Because I needed a place to live, I didn't have anybody. 136 00:09:21,094 --> 00:09:23,296 I didn't know what my family thought at that time. 137 00:09:23,330 --> 00:09:24,564 I wasn't speaking to them. 138 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:29,102 I got quite involved immediately. 139 00:09:29,136 --> 00:09:31,705 I took it over from Nancy due to her health failing, 140 00:09:31,739 --> 00:09:33,841 and so she asked me if I would help. 141 00:09:33,874 --> 00:09:35,118 And I came in and I helped for a while 142 00:09:35,142 --> 00:09:36,422 and then I took it over from her. 143 00:09:39,412 --> 00:09:41,014 A typical resident, 144 00:09:41,048 --> 00:09:43,884 when they come into our program, 145 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:46,153 they generally stay for the life of their probation 146 00:09:46,186 --> 00:09:50,223 and the counseling provided by Don Sweeney 147 00:09:50,257 --> 00:09:51,925 is essentially a two year program. 148 00:09:56,163 --> 00:09:58,398 A sex offender in the state of Florida 149 00:09:58,431 --> 00:10:01,334 is an individual who committed a sex crime, 150 00:10:01,368 --> 00:10:05,205 which is a very large list 151 00:10:05,238 --> 00:10:08,709 of things that could qualify somebody 152 00:10:08,742 --> 00:10:13,013 to be actually labeled as a registered sex offender. 153 00:10:14,782 --> 00:10:18,251 The typical reaction of a normal citizen 154 00:10:18,285 --> 00:10:20,087 is, "We don't care. 155 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,724 They committed the crime, so, we don't care if they die." 156 00:10:27,127 --> 00:10:29,897 Not to mention I'll be restoring sheds and renting them out. 157 00:10:29,930 --> 00:10:31,398 I'm gonna call them a house. 158 00:10:31,431 --> 00:10:33,767 - Really? - Right. Like these. 159 00:10:33,801 --> 00:10:35,736 I spend nine hours a day 160 00:10:35,769 --> 00:10:37,270 working in a back breaking job 161 00:10:37,304 --> 00:10:39,006 for $9 an hour. 162 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:41,008 Those are the people that are gonna hire you. 163 00:10:41,041 --> 00:10:46,013 Guys who need the help and a high turnover job, 164 00:10:46,046 --> 00:10:49,817 and are gonna pay very little money for the effort. 165 00:10:49,850 --> 00:10:51,719 What do you do to change it? 166 00:10:51,752 --> 00:10:54,154 The change is unlikely. 167 00:10:54,187 --> 00:10:56,857 You're just gonna have to do what you did in prison 168 00:10:56,890 --> 00:10:59,292 and do what you gotta do to 169 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:02,162 survive on a day to day basis. 170 00:11:02,195 --> 00:11:03,363 That's all you can do. 171 00:11:03,396 --> 00:11:04,431 I disagree. 172 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:06,767 I think you have to, uh, 173 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,837 take it outside yourself and look at the bigger picture. 174 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:12,272 Nobody's gonna stand up and fight for us. 175 00:11:12,305 --> 00:11:15,108 That's why we've gotta do something about it now. 176 00:11:15,142 --> 00:11:16,710 Thanks for the drink, guys. 177 00:11:16,744 --> 00:11:18,287 Bill, thank you for your company, buddy. 178 00:11:18,311 --> 00:11:19,747 Enjoyed having you over. 179 00:11:23,150 --> 00:11:25,252 Well, I'd hoped that Bill would stay longer. 180 00:11:25,285 --> 00:11:26,954 He ain't got no choice. 181 00:11:26,987 --> 00:11:29,356 What is this? Is he on some kind of a... 182 00:11:29,389 --> 00:11:30,357 He's on house arrest. 183 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:31,792 - He is? - Yeah. 184 00:11:31,825 --> 00:11:33,160 I had no idea. 185 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:37,230 He got I think it was like two years on house arrest 186 00:11:37,264 --> 00:11:41,769 because he failed to register an alternate address. 187 00:11:41,802 --> 00:11:43,804 He'd been staying with his girlfriend. 188 00:11:43,837 --> 00:11:46,139 You know, he's allowed to run out to Home Depot 189 00:11:46,173 --> 00:11:47,374 or something like that. 190 00:11:47,407 --> 00:11:48,909 You know, for stuff for the park. 191 00:11:48,942 --> 00:11:51,244 But other than that, he's supposed to be here. 192 00:11:51,278 --> 00:11:55,916 And his shopping time is 5:00 to 7:00 on Saturdays. 193 00:12:08,929 --> 00:12:10,163 I was convicted of 194 00:12:10,197 --> 00:12:12,900 attempted capital sexual battery. 195 00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:16,804 And I spent a total of 12 years incarcerated. 196 00:12:22,409 --> 00:12:24,778 I'm a maintenance and security here, 197 00:12:24,812 --> 00:12:26,279 so I get up every morning 198 00:12:26,313 --> 00:12:27,781 and I go to the office to see 199 00:12:27,815 --> 00:12:28,882 if there's any maintenance issues 200 00:12:28,916 --> 00:12:29,883 that popped up overnight. 201 00:12:29,917 --> 00:12:31,484 If there are, I'll handle them. 202 00:12:31,518 --> 00:12:33,821 If they're not, then I go back to rebuilding the trailers. 203 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:37,090 There's a lot of people out in the world 204 00:12:37,124 --> 00:12:38,158 that don't think very rationally 205 00:12:38,191 --> 00:12:39,159 about how to handle us. 206 00:12:39,192 --> 00:12:40,027 So, you get a lot of vigilantes. 207 00:12:40,060 --> 00:12:41,094 You get a lot of people that 208 00:12:41,128 --> 00:12:41,829 wanna come in here starting trouble, 209 00:12:41,862 --> 00:12:43,831 or they're a little drunk, 210 00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:44,865 so, they want to come in here and start trouble. 211 00:12:44,898 --> 00:12:47,567 with the "baby rapers" as they call us. 212 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,971 So, it's my job to make sure that our residents are safe. 213 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,108 5:15. 214 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:58,445 I write down my time, my mileage, 215 00:12:58,478 --> 00:13:00,347 everywhere I'm going. 216 00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:02,315 I have a little green dot on a computer 217 00:13:02,349 --> 00:13:03,492 to tell 'em where I am any time. 218 00:13:03,516 --> 00:13:05,385 But I still have to write all this down. 219 00:13:06,854 --> 00:13:07,954 It's silly. 220 00:13:12,092 --> 00:13:13,326 Here we are. 221 00:13:29,342 --> 00:13:31,011 Sorry about Waldo, Lloyd. 222 00:13:31,044 --> 00:13:32,445 Yeah, well... 223 00:13:34,247 --> 00:13:36,192 This is gonna sound like a really stupid question. 224 00:13:36,216 --> 00:13:37,851 What the hell is that? 225 00:13:37,885 --> 00:13:41,821 That was in my dryer when I went to put my clothes in. 226 00:13:42,990 --> 00:13:44,391 It's a sack of rats. 227 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:48,962 Somebody left it there? 228 00:13:50,197 --> 00:13:51,999 It was just sitting in my dryer. 229 00:13:52,032 --> 00:13:55,068 I thought it might be a little bag of socks or something. 230 00:14:00,207 --> 00:14:01,408 How you doing? 231 00:14:02,242 --> 00:14:04,111 I'm doing. 232 00:14:04,144 --> 00:14:06,346 I'm still here, I'm still alive, still kicking. 233 00:14:06,379 --> 00:14:07,590 Worry about your shift for right now. 234 00:14:07,614 --> 00:14:09,482 Yeah, right? That's what I'll worry about. 235 00:14:10,317 --> 00:14:11,284 I called my parents, 236 00:14:11,318 --> 00:14:14,421 I said, "look, I need somebody to help me out." 237 00:14:29,536 --> 00:14:31,238 Good morning, guys. Nothing new? 238 00:14:31,271 --> 00:14:32,472 Yeah, there's one... 239 00:14:32,505 --> 00:14:34,074 Just the one for Volano? 240 00:14:34,107 --> 00:14:35,242 - Yeah. - All right. 241 00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:37,945 I gotta take care of that today. 242 00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:39,279 All right. 243 00:14:40,247 --> 00:14:41,381 See you guys. 244 00:14:49,656 --> 00:14:52,059 I grew up in an extremely abusive home. 245 00:14:54,427 --> 00:14:56,196 When I was six-years-old, 246 00:14:56,229 --> 00:14:58,598 there was a babysitter that used to 247 00:14:58,631 --> 00:15:00,400 fondle me, my brother. 248 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:02,369 Do things to us sexually. 249 00:15:02,402 --> 00:15:03,436 She would threaten that 250 00:15:03,470 --> 00:15:04,747 if I didn't do what she wanted me to do, 251 00:15:04,771 --> 00:15:06,940 then she would tell my parents that I didn't behave 252 00:15:06,974 --> 00:15:08,317 and I knew I was gonna get a beating. 253 00:15:08,341 --> 00:15:12,045 So, I got a choice between feeling good or feeling pain, 254 00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:13,646 so I would always choose to feel good. 255 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:16,583 She would get us naked. 256 00:15:16,616 --> 00:15:19,419 She would do things to us with her panties. 257 00:15:19,452 --> 00:15:21,521 She would masturbate us. She would 258 00:15:21,554 --> 00:15:23,290 rub her vagina on our faces. 259 00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:26,159 That kind of thing. 260 00:15:26,193 --> 00:15:28,695 And we didn't tell our parents a whole lot of anything. 261 00:15:28,728 --> 00:15:30,363 We were more scared of our parents. 262 00:15:42,609 --> 00:15:45,378 The same babysitter, she had brought this doll over. 263 00:15:45,412 --> 00:15:48,115 It was a stuffed doll, life sized for us at the time. 264 00:15:48,148 --> 00:15:49,416 And she cut a hole in the thing 265 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:51,218 where the vagina should be. 266 00:15:51,251 --> 00:15:54,054 And showed my brother how to have 267 00:15:54,087 --> 00:15:56,089 intercourse with this doll. 268 00:15:56,123 --> 00:15:57,190 Well, my mother walked in 269 00:15:57,224 --> 00:15:58,291 and saw my brother doing this one day, 270 00:15:58,325 --> 00:16:01,394 and she ended up putting Tabasco sauce 271 00:16:01,428 --> 00:16:02,495 on my brother's penis 272 00:16:02,529 --> 00:16:04,497 and then making him go sit out on the curb. 273 00:16:04,531 --> 00:16:07,100 And to this day I can remember that kid howling, 274 00:16:07,134 --> 00:16:08,601 'cause he was in so much pain. 275 00:16:08,635 --> 00:16:11,504 I mean, she put Tabasco sauce on his penis! 276 00:16:11,538 --> 00:16:13,116 She didn't ask him, "Where did you learn that?" 277 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:14,107 She just punished him. 278 00:16:14,141 --> 00:16:16,243 So, no, we didn't talk about it. 279 00:16:38,465 --> 00:16:41,068 Well, I was raised outside of Chicago. 280 00:16:41,101 --> 00:16:42,669 That's where I met Susan. 281 00:16:42,702 --> 00:16:45,372 I was actually 16 and she was 15 when we got pregnant. 282 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:49,309 I didn't know what to do, so I joined the Navy. 283 00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:51,244 You know, I can do 20 years in the Navy 284 00:16:51,278 --> 00:16:53,480 and retire and learn a trade or whatever. 285 00:16:53,513 --> 00:16:55,748 But at least that way the family would be taken care of. 286 00:16:55,782 --> 00:16:56,816 So, I did that. 287 00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,051 Then we got married, 288 00:16:58,651 --> 00:17:01,088 had the baby. 289 00:17:01,121 --> 00:17:04,257 It was the most joyous, happiest time of my life. 290 00:17:04,291 --> 00:17:05,458 I mean, here's a baby. 291 00:17:05,492 --> 00:17:07,427 This is a piece of me. We did this. 292 00:17:08,161 --> 00:17:09,162 It was so cool. 293 00:17:09,196 --> 00:17:10,330 It was really cool. 294 00:17:16,236 --> 00:17:18,505 About a year after he was born, 295 00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:20,440 we went to Chicago for Christmas. 296 00:17:22,142 --> 00:17:26,179 And we were driving down Highway 10, I think it was, 297 00:17:26,879 --> 00:17:29,349 and my car broke down. 298 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:30,850 Two o'clock in the morning. 299 00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:33,120 Got a one-year-old son and my wife in a car... 300 00:17:35,655 --> 00:17:38,325 So, I was gonna go get some help, 301 00:17:38,358 --> 00:17:41,228 rather than carry the baby around. 302 00:17:41,261 --> 00:17:43,663 And when I came back from getting some help... 303 00:17:43,696 --> 00:17:46,166 Of course, back then there was no cell phones or anything. 304 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:47,834 And when I came back from 305 00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:51,171 making a phone call... 306 00:17:51,204 --> 00:17:52,472 there was a tractor trailer 307 00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:54,141 sitting on top of my Volkswagen. 308 00:17:55,242 --> 00:17:56,342 And, um... 309 00:18:01,348 --> 00:18:02,715 They were killed. 310 00:18:18,698 --> 00:18:20,200 Sorry. 311 00:18:32,512 --> 00:18:34,113 They were killed by a drunk driver. 312 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:37,584 The guy was sleeping with 313 00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:39,017 a bottle of Jack Daniels in his lap. 314 00:18:50,530 --> 00:18:51,931 They fine him $500 315 00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:54,367 and took away his license for six months. 316 00:19:00,407 --> 00:19:03,710 I went on a 20 year spin off. I just... 317 00:19:03,743 --> 00:19:05,412 tried to kill myself for 20 years. 318 00:19:11,351 --> 00:19:13,486 I did everything I could extreme. 319 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,256 I got into drugs, I got into partying. 320 00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:19,559 Everything dangerous that I could do. 321 00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:21,160 I just... 322 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:23,162 stopped really caring. 323 00:19:29,836 --> 00:19:31,471 All right, everybody. 324 00:19:34,374 --> 00:19:35,275 You guys ready? 325 00:19:35,308 --> 00:19:36,868 What would you like to talk about today? 326 00:19:37,877 --> 00:19:39,879 I feel I'm set up for failure every day. 327 00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:40,780 Yes. 328 00:19:40,813 --> 00:19:43,283 I got a probation officer telling my job, 329 00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:45,518 "Why'd you hire a sex offender? 330 00:19:45,552 --> 00:19:47,954 Are you crazy?" I got a probation officer 331 00:19:47,987 --> 00:19:51,591 telling my landlord that I was masturbating to children 332 00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:54,361 when I wasn't. I was a flasher. 333 00:19:54,394 --> 00:19:55,695 The law says that they 334 00:19:55,728 --> 00:19:57,564 have to contact the potential employer 335 00:19:57,597 --> 00:19:58,998 within 30 days of hire. 336 00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:02,335 But they're not supposed to scare the employer either. 337 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:05,505 Every job has said horrible things 338 00:20:05,538 --> 00:20:06,949 to every one of the employers that I've had. 339 00:20:06,973 --> 00:20:08,875 That's defamation of character. 340 00:20:08,908 --> 00:20:10,477 We can actually all get together 341 00:20:10,510 --> 00:20:11,620 and tell them to shut it down. 342 00:20:11,644 --> 00:20:15,648 Your employer will see for him or herself. 343 00:20:15,682 --> 00:20:17,717 They are gonna make their own decisions. 344 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:19,352 If you're a good worker... 345 00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:20,987 - Okay? - If they give you a chance. 346 00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:24,257 If you do a great job and you're an offender, 347 00:20:24,291 --> 00:20:26,759 then other co... 348 00:20:26,793 --> 00:20:29,529 The HR department will allow other offenders 349 00:20:29,562 --> 00:20:31,264 to come into that company. 350 00:20:31,298 --> 00:20:33,600 And that's happened a lot with us. 351 00:20:35,935 --> 00:20:37,404 Have a great day. 352 00:20:38,938 --> 00:20:42,275 I was hired back in 1983, 353 00:20:42,309 --> 00:20:45,445 to treat the victims of sexual abuse. 354 00:20:45,478 --> 00:20:47,514 What was going on was, 355 00:20:47,547 --> 00:20:49,549 once the system came in 356 00:20:49,582 --> 00:20:51,518 and started breaking up the family 357 00:20:51,551 --> 00:20:53,753 and arresting the perpetrator, 358 00:20:53,786 --> 00:20:56,656 the kids realized that 359 00:20:56,689 --> 00:20:58,425 the family wasn't gonna get any help. 360 00:20:58,458 --> 00:20:59,759 Then they would recant. 361 00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:03,563 Recant means they would say, "Oh, I made it up." 362 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:06,733 Then they'd release the offender from jail 363 00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:11,604 and the Civil Child Protection Authorities would move in 364 00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:14,040 and take the kid and put the child in foster care, 365 00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:15,241 the victim. 366 00:21:15,274 --> 00:21:18,711 My job was to make sure the kids didn't recant. 367 00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:22,014 I found out by just listening to them, 368 00:21:22,048 --> 00:21:26,486 that if I was willing to talk to their offenders, 369 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:29,622 and try to help them somehow, 370 00:21:29,656 --> 00:21:31,358 they wouldn't recant. 371 00:21:31,391 --> 00:21:35,528 And my only obligation was to go to the jail 372 00:21:35,562 --> 00:21:37,096 and visit the offender, 373 00:21:37,129 --> 00:21:40,667 and try to help them get some treatment. 374 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:42,001 But there was no treatment. 375 00:21:42,034 --> 00:21:44,804 So, that forced me to start counseling for the men. 376 00:21:45,405 --> 00:21:46,939 All right. 377 00:21:46,973 --> 00:21:48,107 You take care of yourself. 378 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:49,352 All right, buddy, I'll see you. 379 00:21:49,376 --> 00:21:50,476 Bye bye, now. 380 00:22:39,726 --> 00:22:40,827 What about that wall there? 381 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:41,694 You got it fixed? 382 00:22:41,728 --> 00:22:43,863 - Yeah. - Right, that way. 383 00:22:43,896 --> 00:22:45,465 There's a bunch of boxes right here. 384 00:22:45,498 --> 00:22:47,800 Okay. 385 00:22:47,834 --> 00:22:50,703 I don't have any foam other than what's here. 386 00:22:50,737 --> 00:22:51,971 I think I have a wall here. 387 00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:52,872 Yeah, just start there 388 00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:54,841 and just carry it all the way through. 389 00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:55,908 Just like you did in my house. 390 00:22:55,942 --> 00:22:57,222 You don't have to change this... 391 00:23:09,856 --> 00:23:12,124 Uh, we don't know if it's going to work. 392 00:23:14,761 --> 00:23:15,995 Kettle corn. 393 00:23:16,896 --> 00:23:18,465 That's what this is. 394 00:23:18,965 --> 00:23:20,399 Thank you. 395 00:23:22,669 --> 00:23:25,037 I don't know what flavors these are, 396 00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:26,172 they are donated. 397 00:23:38,818 --> 00:23:39,819 We have that one, too. 398 00:23:39,852 --> 00:23:41,187 Yeah, that's good. 399 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:42,655 We want that one. 400 00:23:46,225 --> 00:23:49,061 Do you have that one? 401 00:23:49,095 --> 00:23:51,964 My dad said, "You're gonna help me clean my room." 402 00:23:51,998 --> 00:23:53,566 And I said, "Okay." 403 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,803 You know, like, "I get to go with daddy." 404 00:23:56,836 --> 00:23:59,806 And my little sister, she's four years younger than me, 405 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:02,842 she was still a baby in a little play pen. 406 00:24:05,512 --> 00:24:07,122 So, we went down the hall and went to the bedroom, 407 00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:09,716 and he locked the door. 408 00:24:09,749 --> 00:24:12,151 And he said, "You know that you're daddy's girl, 409 00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:15,755 and I love you, and I just wanna share this with you." 410 00:24:23,262 --> 00:24:25,031 When my mom would go to work, 411 00:24:25,698 --> 00:24:27,133 and he was home, 412 00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:30,236 certain songs would come on the radio. 413 00:24:30,269 --> 00:24:33,906 He would look at me and I knew it was gonna be time again. 414 00:24:35,842 --> 00:24:37,944 Even now, if they come on, 415 00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:39,077 I cringe. 416 00:24:47,954 --> 00:24:49,054 I know there were 417 00:24:49,722 --> 00:24:52,124 other men my mom dated 418 00:24:52,158 --> 00:24:55,261 that did things to us as well. 419 00:24:57,229 --> 00:25:00,132 But the only two men that I remember 420 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:01,568 is my dad and Glen. 421 00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:04,871 One day, Glen had... 422 00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:07,774 raped me... 423 00:25:07,807 --> 00:25:10,309 You know, because I was already damaged goods, 424 00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:13,079 so, it wouldn't matter if one more man did. 425 00:25:13,913 --> 00:25:15,848 And, um... 426 00:25:15,882 --> 00:25:18,985 I remember laying there crying, 427 00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:20,853 and he slapped me and told me 428 00:25:20,887 --> 00:25:23,590 that if he wanted everyone to know 429 00:25:23,623 --> 00:25:26,025 what he was doing to me, he would take... 430 00:25:27,193 --> 00:25:28,961 this ho and put me in the street. 431 00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:35,534 And I shut up. I didn't say anything else. 432 00:25:37,637 --> 00:25:38,771 But after that, 433 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:43,175 it caused my body... 434 00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:46,012 I guess all I can tell you is it cause my body 435 00:25:46,045 --> 00:25:48,114 to want those same feelings. 436 00:25:49,782 --> 00:25:53,285 And I didn't know how to make myself feel those feelings 437 00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:56,623 except for to act the same thing on someone else. 438 00:25:58,991 --> 00:26:00,727 So, I did, with my cousin. 439 00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:08,167 And my aunt tore off a tree branch 440 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,670 and whipped me and whipped me and whipped me, 441 00:26:11,838 --> 00:26:13,940 and told me that I was going to hell. 442 00:26:13,973 --> 00:26:17,076 And that I was not going to be like my father. 443 00:26:17,109 --> 00:26:19,679 That was my second grade year, 444 00:26:19,712 --> 00:26:21,072 'cause they took us away that year. 445 00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:25,885 Like you, I don't have a whole lot of eloquent 446 00:26:26,719 --> 00:26:28,054 words or speeches. 447 00:26:28,087 --> 00:26:31,290 But sometimes we have a wake up call in our life. 448 00:26:31,323 --> 00:26:33,125 When you read this... 449 00:26:33,159 --> 00:26:34,293 It's really wild. 450 00:26:34,326 --> 00:26:38,097 I went to five different homes between 451 00:26:39,131 --> 00:26:41,634 second grade and fifth grade. 452 00:26:41,668 --> 00:26:45,171 I started craving sex all the time. 453 00:26:45,204 --> 00:26:46,839 With anybody. 454 00:26:46,873 --> 00:26:48,841 It got to a point to where 455 00:26:50,877 --> 00:26:52,611 it didn't matter who you were. 456 00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:55,982 And when I was 11, 457 00:26:56,015 --> 00:26:59,285 I was sleeping with a 16-year-old boy. 458 00:27:00,787 --> 00:27:02,689 I didn't have a menstrual. 459 00:27:02,722 --> 00:27:04,857 So, they took me to the thing. 460 00:27:05,725 --> 00:27:09,762 They told me that... 461 00:27:09,796 --> 00:27:12,699 they'd have to give me some medicine to help me sleep 462 00:27:12,732 --> 00:27:14,033 to give me an exam. 463 00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:15,902 When I woke up, I was bleeding again. 464 00:27:15,935 --> 00:27:17,375 So, I was like, "Oh, okay." You know. 465 00:27:17,403 --> 00:27:19,939 I'm 11-years-old. I don't know. 466 00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:22,041 They told me that I'd just been sick, 467 00:27:22,074 --> 00:27:23,642 and I was fine now. 468 00:27:24,944 --> 00:27:28,681 I still slept around, still did everything, 469 00:27:28,715 --> 00:27:31,017 but it did come back. They told me that 470 00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:33,219 all of my insides were messed up 471 00:27:33,252 --> 00:27:37,990 from being messed with when I was little. 472 00:27:38,024 --> 00:27:39,926 That I would never carry a child. 473 00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:45,264 That they had gave me an abortion and I didn't know. 474 00:28:15,795 --> 00:28:18,097 Electronic monitoring is a device 475 00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:19,465 that the offender carries on 476 00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:21,968 their waist or in their pockets. 477 00:28:22,001 --> 00:28:23,435 It reports to a satellite, 478 00:28:23,469 --> 00:28:26,906 and their probation officer 479 00:28:26,939 --> 00:28:29,141 can see at any time of the day or night 480 00:28:29,175 --> 00:28:31,210 where they are. 481 00:28:31,243 --> 00:28:34,480 It does pinpoint to within three feet of where they are. 482 00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:41,954 All sex offenders are asked to go report 483 00:28:41,988 --> 00:28:43,289 to the Sex Offender Registry, 484 00:28:43,322 --> 00:28:46,458 that tells the Sheriff's Department 485 00:28:46,492 --> 00:28:49,295 where they live, where they work, 486 00:28:49,328 --> 00:28:52,298 what car they're driving, what email address they have, 487 00:28:52,331 --> 00:28:54,834 if they're going to school, which school they're going to. 488 00:28:54,867 --> 00:28:58,004 And they have to do that a minimum of twice a year, 489 00:28:58,037 --> 00:28:59,137 every single year. 490 00:29:03,242 --> 00:29:05,244 Anybody that lives in the community 491 00:29:05,277 --> 00:29:08,414 can got to the Sheriff's Department website 492 00:29:08,447 --> 00:29:12,451 and see who's living next door to them. 493 00:29:12,484 --> 00:29:15,788 They also have applications on cell phones now... 494 00:29:15,822 --> 00:29:18,357 And people have it. 495 00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:20,226 It's called Offender Locater. Right here. 496 00:29:21,493 --> 00:29:23,162 And if you press on it, 497 00:29:23,195 --> 00:29:25,965 it will ask you, "Use current location?" 498 00:29:25,998 --> 00:29:27,098 And then it searches. 499 00:29:28,968 --> 00:29:30,269 And there you go. 500 00:29:30,302 --> 00:29:32,538 It brings up anybody within a radius 501 00:29:32,571 --> 00:29:34,473 of where we're currently at. 502 00:29:34,506 --> 00:29:36,242 It reports their names. 503 00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:37,543 It gives their picture. 504 00:29:38,845 --> 00:29:41,080 It shows any aliases. 505 00:29:41,113 --> 00:29:43,015 It gives a current address. 506 00:29:43,883 --> 00:29:45,784 It gives their crime. 507 00:29:46,552 --> 00:29:48,454 What crime they committed. 508 00:29:49,455 --> 00:29:51,223 The date of the crime. 509 00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:55,127 Gender, date of birth. 510 00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:57,830 Height, weight, hair color and eye color. 511 00:30:30,196 --> 00:30:33,199 I was arrested in one of those internet stings. 512 00:30:33,232 --> 00:30:35,868 I replied to a Craigslist ad for sex 513 00:30:35,902 --> 00:30:37,636 for a 30-year-old woman. 514 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:40,039 - 30? - Thirty was the age in the ad. 515 00:30:40,072 --> 00:30:42,041 And you were 22 at the time? 516 00:30:42,074 --> 00:30:43,242 Yes. 517 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:46,112 I had responded to several ads that night. 518 00:30:46,145 --> 00:30:48,380 That was the only one that replied back to me. 519 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:51,350 We started talking. 520 00:30:51,383 --> 00:30:54,320 She said she wanted to include her 14-year-old daughter. 521 00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:58,190 You mean, bring her along? Or... 522 00:30:58,224 --> 00:30:59,892 Oh, I was going to their place. 523 00:30:59,926 --> 00:31:03,229 So, like, she wanted me to have sex with the daughter. 524 00:31:03,262 --> 00:31:05,397 And I was saying stuff, 525 00:31:05,431 --> 00:31:07,233 what I would like to do with the mother, 526 00:31:08,067 --> 00:31:10,402 and they keep pushing. 527 00:31:10,436 --> 00:31:12,638 And in hindsight it's so obvious. 528 00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:14,406 Their tactics are so childish. 529 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,442 But I was caught up in it. 530 00:31:16,475 --> 00:31:19,278 All that shows up in the police report is the one thing 531 00:31:19,311 --> 00:31:21,047 she got me to say about the daughter. 532 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,982 She pressured me into saying that. 533 00:31:23,015 --> 00:31:24,951 I still showed up. 534 00:31:24,984 --> 00:31:26,552 And it was a sting. Got arrested. 535 00:31:26,585 --> 00:31:31,623 You know, you're very smart. You got a master's degree. 536 00:31:31,657 --> 00:31:34,593 So, this about is kind of an emotional immaturity. 537 00:31:34,626 --> 00:31:36,996 You got suckered into something. 538 00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:40,466 Do you look at it like an addiction piece? 539 00:31:40,499 --> 00:31:43,002 I would just kind of look for attention with... 540 00:31:43,035 --> 00:31:44,303 I'd just talk to people online. 541 00:31:44,336 --> 00:31:46,638 Usually just chit-chatty stuff, talk about food. 542 00:31:46,672 --> 00:31:48,240 Just attention. 543 00:31:48,274 --> 00:31:52,411 And that night I wanted attention. 544 00:31:52,444 --> 00:31:54,546 So, you were at the wrong place at the wrong time, 545 00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,482 on the wrong website, with the wrong-- 546 00:31:56,515 --> 00:31:58,717 - Yes. - ...undercover police officer. 547 00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:00,286 Yes. 548 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:02,721 There are a lot of young kids 549 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:06,058 that got sucked into the internet sex 550 00:32:06,092 --> 00:32:07,493 law enforcement stings, 551 00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:10,096 which are increasing in frequency. 552 00:32:10,129 --> 00:32:12,999 That's pure entrapment. 553 00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:16,268 They're not child molesters. They're not. 554 00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:17,703 That's what they're being labeled. 555 00:32:19,505 --> 00:32:23,142 That's a testament to how desperate they are 556 00:32:23,175 --> 00:32:25,444 to keep the sex offender machine going. 557 00:32:25,477 --> 00:32:28,180 The real offenders are the families. 558 00:32:28,214 --> 00:32:30,016 They're not reporting anything, 559 00:32:30,049 --> 00:32:32,484 so now they're manufacturing them. 560 00:32:32,518 --> 00:32:34,620 They'll spend money on the prison system, 561 00:32:34,653 --> 00:32:37,556 which is the money maker for politicians 562 00:32:37,589 --> 00:32:39,658 and governments now. 563 00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:42,028 You can take out stock on Wall Street 564 00:32:42,061 --> 00:32:43,996 in prisons in Florida. 565 00:32:53,539 --> 00:32:54,540 I discovered in prison 566 00:32:54,573 --> 00:32:56,608 that violence makes me physically ill. 567 00:32:58,177 --> 00:32:59,211 I was in the library 568 00:32:59,245 --> 00:33:01,113 and someone got punched in the face. 569 00:33:01,147 --> 00:33:02,681 It was just one punch to the face. 570 00:33:02,714 --> 00:33:04,383 I had stomach ache the whole day. 571 00:33:06,218 --> 00:33:08,320 Prison was awful. The food is horrendous. 572 00:33:08,354 --> 00:33:12,258 The guards treat you horribly. 573 00:33:12,291 --> 00:33:15,361 But I made some friends in there. 574 00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:17,263 My mother wrote me every single day. 575 00:33:17,296 --> 00:33:19,331 My girlfriend wrote me multiple times a week. 576 00:33:19,365 --> 00:33:21,600 My friends, my professors, my father... 577 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:23,202 So, I got a lot of mail. 578 00:33:23,235 --> 00:33:25,404 So, I was fortunate. 579 00:33:31,577 --> 00:33:34,613 June 26th was my sentencing hearing. 580 00:33:34,646 --> 00:33:37,483 The state attorney, who was supposed to be against me, 581 00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:38,650 didn't have anything to say. 582 00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:40,419 He said, "Whatever you wanna do, Judge." 583 00:33:40,452 --> 00:33:42,521 You could tell he didn't really wanna send me away. 584 00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:44,323 But he's got a job to do. 585 00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:46,625 So, the judge took it on himself. 586 00:33:46,658 --> 00:33:48,394 And when it came down to sentencing, 587 00:33:48,427 --> 00:33:50,562 he gave me one year, one day in prison, 588 00:33:50,596 --> 00:33:51,563 and three years probation. 589 00:33:51,597 --> 00:33:52,764 So, unlike most people, 590 00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:54,566 he actually gave me less than the cap. 591 00:33:55,401 --> 00:33:56,835 So then they sent me 592 00:33:56,868 --> 00:33:58,670 seven hours North 593 00:33:58,704 --> 00:34:00,506 to a prison camp away from my family. 594 00:34:11,717 --> 00:34:13,285 I was always a family man. 595 00:34:13,319 --> 00:34:14,553 I was always a good father. 596 00:34:15,354 --> 00:34:17,289 I had a beautiful wife, 597 00:34:17,323 --> 00:34:18,557 two beautiful sons, 598 00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:20,359 great job. 599 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,328 You know, was living the life. 600 00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:25,664 It was a 10 minute conversation 601 00:34:25,697 --> 00:34:27,499 in a chat room, 602 00:34:27,533 --> 00:34:31,237 with an individual that said they were 14-years-old. 603 00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:35,141 Turned out to be a cop. 604 00:34:35,174 --> 00:34:38,610 And got convicted of soliciting a minor. 605 00:34:46,252 --> 00:34:48,287 Go find some place else to live. 606 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,788 You've been evicted. 607 00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:55,194 It's never gonna be like it used to be back home. 608 00:34:56,228 --> 00:34:57,796 It destroyed our lives. 609 00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:59,665 My wife, she had to sell our home. 610 00:34:59,698 --> 00:35:01,433 She couldn't afford it without my salary. 611 00:35:02,401 --> 00:35:03,635 And she was mad. 612 00:35:03,669 --> 00:35:07,173 I wanted to kill myself because I was so stupid. 613 00:35:10,476 --> 00:35:12,378 My two sons and I were very, very close. 614 00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:14,213 Very close. 615 00:35:14,246 --> 00:35:18,317 And they just had a real hard time dealing with it. 616 00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:20,352 But they finally came to see me. 617 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:22,754 I have a picture in my bedroom 618 00:35:22,788 --> 00:35:24,723 hanging on the wall of the first time. 619 00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:27,793 And that was, uh... 620 00:35:28,494 --> 00:35:29,761 It was good. 621 00:35:44,243 --> 00:35:45,911 I met Richard... 622 00:35:45,944 --> 00:35:47,946 That was in August. 623 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:50,449 October 1st I found out I was pregnant. 624 00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:53,385 Wasn't supposed to get pregnant. 625 00:35:54,453 --> 00:35:56,288 So, I didn't do anything 626 00:35:56,322 --> 00:35:57,923 to keep from getting pregnant. 627 00:35:57,956 --> 00:36:00,392 My grandma told me I couldn't live with her. 628 00:36:00,426 --> 00:36:01,860 My grandmother, my aunts... 629 00:36:01,893 --> 00:36:03,929 'Cause they're from, you know, 630 00:36:03,962 --> 00:36:07,233 that time of life where you have to be married 631 00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:08,800 to have a baby. 632 00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:11,837 So I went and told Richard that 633 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,670 we were having a baby, we have to get married. 634 00:36:14,906 --> 00:36:16,908 I married him November 13th, 635 00:36:16,942 --> 00:36:19,511 I left him December 6th the same year. 636 00:36:20,946 --> 00:36:23,682 He tried to run me over with the car. 637 00:36:24,683 --> 00:36:27,519 He blew a rod through my motor 638 00:36:27,553 --> 00:36:28,896 and got me kicked out of my trailer, 639 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,020 all on the same night. 640 00:36:31,357 --> 00:36:33,759 I was three-four months pregnant. 641 00:36:34,826 --> 00:36:36,295 I had nothing. 642 00:36:36,962 --> 00:36:39,731 And the next year, 643 00:36:39,765 --> 00:36:41,467 I wound up marrying Steve. 644 00:36:46,738 --> 00:36:49,841 Dustin was born in May of '94. 645 00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:56,214 I can't remember what his first words... 646 00:36:57,316 --> 00:36:59,718 were. 647 00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:03,422 I really can't remember when he took his first steps. 648 00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,260 I was drinking 649 00:37:08,294 --> 00:37:09,595 and secretly drinking. 650 00:37:09,628 --> 00:37:11,563 And that's the worst kind, 651 00:37:11,597 --> 00:37:14,700 because you're always trying to hide everything, 652 00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:16,368 and trying to be so perfect 653 00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:18,570 that you don't want anybody to know. 654 00:37:21,006 --> 00:37:22,474 And Steve didn't drink. 655 00:37:22,508 --> 00:37:23,642 Steve didn't do drugs. 656 00:37:23,675 --> 00:37:25,611 Steve was like... 657 00:37:25,644 --> 00:37:27,613 you know, the boy next door 658 00:37:27,646 --> 00:37:30,716 that everybody wants their daughter to marry. 659 00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:33,752 And that drove me crazy. 660 00:37:33,785 --> 00:37:36,522 I left him when Dustin was two-years-old. 661 00:37:37,456 --> 00:37:38,990 And I'd started 662 00:37:39,024 --> 00:37:42,694 talking and seeing my dad again. 663 00:37:42,728 --> 00:37:45,364 And had started sleeping with my dad again. 664 00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:50,569 And I know this must sound really sick, 665 00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:52,438 'cause I still can't wrap my hands around it. 666 00:38:00,512 --> 00:38:02,614 And I still love him to death, I mean... 667 00:38:06,785 --> 00:38:07,885 I don't hate him. 668 00:38:08,654 --> 00:38:09,821 I didn't even... 669 00:38:09,855 --> 00:38:13,492 At one time I had, like, some really crazy 670 00:38:13,525 --> 00:38:16,528 things in my head that I wanted to do to my dad. 671 00:38:19,931 --> 00:38:21,032 But that changed 672 00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:22,968 over years. 673 00:38:24,703 --> 00:38:26,505 And then... 674 00:38:26,538 --> 00:38:29,441 I was talking to guys and stuff online, 675 00:38:29,475 --> 00:38:31,643 and was going to those, uh, 676 00:38:31,677 --> 00:38:35,881 naturalists and nudists websites. 677 00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:38,717 And I had met this guy. We'd been talking for, like, 678 00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:39,850 two or three months. 679 00:38:40,986 --> 00:38:43,622 And he knew my story about my dad. 680 00:38:43,655 --> 00:38:45,557 He knew that I was sleeping with my dad. 681 00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:48,627 And um... 682 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,929 He had talked to Dustin a couple of times. 683 00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:53,465 Dustin was eight. 684 00:38:54,766 --> 00:38:57,102 And I didn't think nothing of it. 685 00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:58,837 And then one time 686 00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:02,608 it had gotten really bad with me and my dad. 687 00:39:02,641 --> 00:39:05,711 And I had told my dad that I couldn't do it anymore. 688 00:39:05,744 --> 00:39:07,513 And... 689 00:39:07,546 --> 00:39:10,482 I was crying to Dominic, was the guy 690 00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:12,216 on the computer. 691 00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:14,386 And... 692 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:15,787 Dominique told me, he said, 693 00:39:15,821 --> 00:39:18,757 "Well, Tracy, there's one thing we can do." 694 00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:20,167 And he said, "I'll take care of you. 695 00:39:20,191 --> 00:39:21,460 I'll take care of Dustin." 696 00:39:21,493 --> 00:39:23,395 He said, "I'll send you the money." 697 00:39:23,429 --> 00:39:25,431 You know, he said Western Union, 698 00:39:25,464 --> 00:39:26,932 I will have money to get here. 699 00:39:26,965 --> 00:39:28,634 He said, "All you have to do..." 700 00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:41,813 He said, "All you have to do is ask Dustin 701 00:39:41,847 --> 00:39:45,016 if he'll have sex with you and let me watch. 702 00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:47,085 And it'll be okay if he says yes." 703 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,922 And I kept thinking 704 00:39:50,956 --> 00:39:52,991 how much I loved Dustin. 705 00:39:53,024 --> 00:39:54,960 And how much I knew he loved me. 706 00:39:58,564 --> 00:40:00,165 And I was like, "I can't do that." 707 00:40:03,502 --> 00:40:04,602 And I kept drinking. 708 00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:08,840 And he kept talking and he kept telling me, 709 00:40:08,874 --> 00:40:10,876 "I'll take care of you. You'll be okay. 710 00:40:10,909 --> 00:40:13,011 You'll be away from him, he won't do it again, 711 00:40:13,044 --> 00:40:14,680 it'll never happen again." 712 00:40:23,221 --> 00:40:25,457 So, one night I was sitting there, 713 00:40:25,491 --> 00:40:26,592 Dustin was sitting there. 714 00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:32,931 And I took him and I said, "Dustin," I said, 715 00:40:32,964 --> 00:40:35,000 "I love you." And he said, "I know, Mama." 716 00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:43,475 I've never ever, ever told this 717 00:40:43,509 --> 00:40:46,211 to nobody. 718 00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:58,757 He was my baby. 719 00:41:15,841 --> 00:41:17,976 He was my baby. 720 00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:21,813 And then I took that trust 721 00:41:23,048 --> 00:41:25,116 and that day he hated me. 722 00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:44,903 I came from a household 723 00:41:44,936 --> 00:41:46,536 where I never really learned how to care, 724 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,141 and then once I finally cared about something, 725 00:41:50,175 --> 00:41:51,943 it just got snatched away from me. 726 00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:56,582 I figured the thing to do was stop giving a shit. 727 00:41:59,585 --> 00:42:00,886 And then I met a woman... 728 00:42:01,587 --> 00:42:02,988 Uh, Stephanie. 729 00:42:03,021 --> 00:42:06,024 And she had a daughter when I met her. 730 00:42:06,057 --> 00:42:08,660 That was a "I should have never gotten married" wish. 731 00:42:10,195 --> 00:42:12,315 But, you know, you think you're doing the right thing. 732 00:42:25,911 --> 00:42:27,655 Because of the experience with the baby sitter, 733 00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:29,314 I developed this... 734 00:42:29,347 --> 00:42:30,987 I don't know if you wanna call it a fetish 735 00:42:31,016 --> 00:42:32,116 with women's panties. 736 00:42:34,085 --> 00:42:36,354 When it first started, it was my mother's panties. 737 00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:37,989 And my father would find out, 738 00:42:38,023 --> 00:42:39,190 and I would get beat up. 739 00:42:39,224 --> 00:42:41,927 And I really was ashamed. There was this... 740 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,995 horrible dirty thing. 741 00:42:44,029 --> 00:42:47,298 Matter of fact, I once let my girl Stephanie 742 00:42:47,332 --> 00:42:48,700 think I was cheating on her 743 00:42:48,734 --> 00:42:49,944 rather than tell her the truth. 744 00:42:49,968 --> 00:42:51,808 Because she found a pair of panties in the bed. 745 00:42:53,739 --> 00:42:55,674 And one day, 746 00:42:55,707 --> 00:42:57,075 the daughter was having a sleepover 747 00:42:57,108 --> 00:43:00,245 and all the wives were out partying. 748 00:43:00,278 --> 00:43:02,113 About two o'clock in the morning, 749 00:43:02,147 --> 00:43:04,249 I was in my bedroom, smoking a joint, 750 00:43:05,016 --> 00:43:06,184 watching pornography 751 00:43:06,217 --> 00:43:08,353 and masturbating. 752 00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:09,921 And all of a sudden this little girl 753 00:43:09,955 --> 00:43:10,889 walked into my room, 754 00:43:10,922 --> 00:43:12,057 to get a glass of water. 755 00:43:14,726 --> 00:43:16,170 The next day talked to her mother about it, 756 00:43:16,194 --> 00:43:18,263 told her what had happened. 757 00:43:18,296 --> 00:43:19,774 They said that I touched her daughter, 758 00:43:19,798 --> 00:43:22,868 despite the fact that the daughter said I never did. 759 00:43:22,901 --> 00:43:26,972 So, I got five years of probation for that. 760 00:43:27,005 --> 00:43:29,407 About four and a half years into that probation, 761 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,110 I got a dirty urine for smoking pot, 762 00:43:32,143 --> 00:43:34,103 and that was all they needed to send me to prison. 763 00:43:36,748 --> 00:43:38,249 And then right around the same time 764 00:43:38,283 --> 00:43:40,151 when I went to prison, 765 00:43:40,185 --> 00:43:41,419 my girlfriend was at work, 766 00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:43,722 and the 12 year old daughter came into my bedroom 767 00:43:43,755 --> 00:43:46,324 and said, "Look, Billy. I can wear my mommy's panties." 768 00:43:46,357 --> 00:43:48,326 That kind of threw me over the edge, 769 00:43:48,359 --> 00:43:50,061 and I started masturbating in front of her. 770 00:43:50,095 --> 00:43:51,863 And that was my second conviction. 771 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,802 I was definitely guilty there. 772 00:43:57,769 --> 00:43:58,837 She's a 12 year old girl, 773 00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:00,314 she didn't need to be exposed to that. 774 00:44:00,338 --> 00:44:01,539 I'm the adult. 775 00:44:01,572 --> 00:44:04,142 I'm supposed to take control of that situation 776 00:44:04,175 --> 00:44:05,275 and not abuse it. 777 00:44:11,817 --> 00:44:12,951 What's up, Matt? 778 00:44:12,984 --> 00:44:14,285 How did it go in court? 779 00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:17,388 I tried to get that electronic monitoring. 780 00:44:17,422 --> 00:44:20,025 I tried to get that knocked down in half, 781 00:44:20,058 --> 00:44:22,928 but they said that they can't change something like that. 782 00:44:22,961 --> 00:44:24,863 It's so expensive. I can't afford it. 783 00:44:24,896 --> 00:44:26,164 It's $8000. 784 00:44:26,197 --> 00:44:27,398 Yeah, I know. 785 00:44:27,432 --> 00:44:28,834 Yeah, so, it's just... 786 00:44:28,867 --> 00:44:31,369 They put me in a big hole with this box. 787 00:44:58,797 --> 00:45:00,198 Hey, Mike, is Gary home? 788 00:45:00,231 --> 00:45:01,900 - Who? - Your roommate. 789 00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:04,169 I don't know. I'll see. Come on in. 790 00:45:04,202 --> 00:45:06,237 I can't. You got it locked. 791 00:45:08,874 --> 00:45:10,075 Hey, Gary. 792 00:45:10,108 --> 00:45:12,319 Hey was that your friends on the bikes a little while ago? 793 00:45:12,343 --> 00:45:14,079 Yeah. 794 00:45:14,112 --> 00:45:15,823 Hey, listen, if they don't like sex offenders, 795 00:45:15,847 --> 00:45:17,482 they don't need to come in our park. 796 00:45:17,515 --> 00:45:19,951 I don't need 'em bad mouthing us, talking about pedophiles. 797 00:45:21,152 --> 00:45:22,187 All right? I don't need that. 798 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:23,330 If they can't be respectful, 799 00:45:23,354 --> 00:45:25,056 they don't need to come in the park. 800 00:45:25,090 --> 00:45:26,224 All right, Bill. 801 00:45:26,257 --> 00:45:27,793 All right, man. 802 00:45:49,014 --> 00:45:50,081 How you doing? 803 00:45:50,115 --> 00:45:53,885 By the way you dropped a Butterfinger on the floor 804 00:45:53,919 --> 00:45:55,286 at class, Saturday. 805 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,454 Did you get it? 806 00:45:56,487 --> 00:45:58,356 I picked it up and I put it on the table. 807 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,037 It's kind of, uh... 808 00:46:12,070 --> 00:46:13,805 Kind of a complex situation... 809 00:46:14,305 --> 00:46:15,941 I guess. 810 00:46:15,974 --> 00:46:17,909 You still try to work these things out 811 00:46:17,943 --> 00:46:20,111 years later. 812 00:46:20,145 --> 00:46:22,247 And I went through a long period where 813 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,182 I probably could have convinced anybody 814 00:46:24,215 --> 00:46:25,383 I was telling the truth. 815 00:46:26,251 --> 00:46:28,219 Long period of denial. 816 00:46:28,253 --> 00:46:29,821 I had myself convinced. 817 00:46:37,162 --> 00:46:41,032 Accepting responsibility becomes... 818 00:46:42,233 --> 00:46:44,936 probably the single most important thing 819 00:46:44,970 --> 00:46:47,038 that anyone in my situation can do. 820 00:46:49,407 --> 00:46:50,608 Believe it or not, 821 00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:53,111 I think just about all of us have a conscience. 822 00:46:53,144 --> 00:46:55,947 And, um... 823 00:46:55,981 --> 00:46:57,983 The conscience really works on you. 824 00:46:58,016 --> 00:47:01,319 It makes it become the most important thing to you, 825 00:47:01,352 --> 00:47:05,857 that you address the issue and make it right, 826 00:47:05,891 --> 00:47:07,592 before you can move on. 827 00:47:13,899 --> 00:47:15,066 I'm a homosexual. 828 00:47:17,002 --> 00:47:18,136 And I ran from that. 829 00:47:19,537 --> 00:47:23,141 And just like with any other 830 00:47:24,342 --> 00:47:28,113 issue that you have left on its own, 831 00:47:28,146 --> 00:47:29,981 it goes unresolved, 832 00:47:30,015 --> 00:47:32,951 and it was a driving force behind my offense. 833 00:47:34,285 --> 00:47:37,956 It's too easy to say that's the reason. 834 00:47:38,489 --> 00:47:41,492 The real fault 835 00:47:41,526 --> 00:47:43,328 lies with the individual. 836 00:47:43,361 --> 00:47:45,496 The real fault lies with me. 837 00:47:45,530 --> 00:47:48,133 'Cause I don't want people to get the idea 838 00:47:48,166 --> 00:47:50,235 that you can just point to one thing 839 00:47:50,268 --> 00:47:51,202 and say that was it. 840 00:47:51,236 --> 00:47:55,473 "Oh, I was molested when I was a child, so..." 841 00:47:55,506 --> 00:47:57,675 That's a trigger, 842 00:47:57,708 --> 00:47:59,110 that's a catalyst. 843 00:47:59,144 --> 00:48:00,912 But it's not the end result. 844 00:48:06,251 --> 00:48:09,154 He made bad decisions. 845 00:48:09,187 --> 00:48:12,057 My name is Will. I was convicted of two counts 846 00:48:12,090 --> 00:48:14,092 of lewd, lascivious molestation. 847 00:48:14,125 --> 00:48:15,526 One against an eight year old, 848 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,528 and one against a 13 year old. 849 00:48:17,562 --> 00:48:19,931 They were completely different 850 00:48:20,531 --> 00:48:22,333 in terms of approach, 851 00:48:22,367 --> 00:48:24,535 but what it really boiled down to, 852 00:48:24,569 --> 00:48:26,437 was it was a couple of crimes of opportunity. 853 00:48:26,471 --> 00:48:29,941 The first was someone I knew. 854 00:48:31,176 --> 00:48:33,511 We were rough-housing a little bit, but, 855 00:48:33,544 --> 00:48:35,713 in my mind he could say yes. 856 00:48:35,746 --> 00:48:37,415 Children do wanna play. 857 00:48:37,448 --> 00:48:40,651 And rough-housing's okay, and wrestling. 858 00:48:40,685 --> 00:48:42,988 They're not thinking along sexual lines. 859 00:48:43,021 --> 00:48:45,656 So they're just innocently going along with it. 860 00:48:45,690 --> 00:48:47,492 And if they like you... 861 00:48:47,525 --> 00:48:50,361 I don't know your crime or you all that well, 862 00:48:50,395 --> 00:48:53,031 but I think it would be really interesting a year from now 863 00:48:53,064 --> 00:48:54,232 to ask you that same question 864 00:48:54,265 --> 00:48:57,568 and see if you still think it was a crime of opportunity. 865 00:48:57,602 --> 00:48:59,246 There was a lot of setup that I wasn't aware of. 866 00:48:59,270 --> 00:49:01,973 There was a lot of fantasy that I wasn't aware of. 867 00:49:02,007 --> 00:49:04,976 I swore to God that was a crime of opportunity. 868 00:49:05,010 --> 00:49:07,112 It presented itself and I capitalized. 869 00:49:07,145 --> 00:49:09,014 And I found out through a lot of therapy, 870 00:49:09,047 --> 00:49:10,048 and a lot of talking to friends, 871 00:49:10,081 --> 00:49:11,316 and a lot of thinking, 872 00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:13,651 that I set it all up without even knowing it. 873 00:49:13,684 --> 00:49:17,055 There's things they call sub seemingly unimportant decisions, 874 00:49:17,088 --> 00:49:18,765 things we make. "Why did I go this way at work today?" 875 00:49:18,789 --> 00:49:20,125 Whatever it is. 876 00:49:20,158 --> 00:49:21,459 And I didn't know it. 877 00:49:21,492 --> 00:49:23,237 It took years and years for me to figure it out. 878 00:49:23,261 --> 00:49:25,463 But a year from now I'd be really interested to see 879 00:49:25,496 --> 00:49:26,773 how you're gonna answer that same question. 880 00:49:26,797 --> 00:49:28,499 What about relationships? 881 00:49:28,533 --> 00:49:31,402 Were you in a healthy adult relationship at the time? 882 00:49:31,436 --> 00:49:33,738 I was in an extraordinarily unhealthy relationship. 883 00:49:33,771 --> 00:49:36,507 So, that was a piece of the puzzle as well. 884 00:49:36,541 --> 00:49:38,176 First of all, it was with a female, 885 00:49:38,209 --> 00:49:40,611 which was a mistake right from the pat. 886 00:49:42,313 --> 00:49:45,116 Because I'm not heterosexual. 887 00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:47,152 So you were trying to be something you weren't? 888 00:49:47,185 --> 00:49:49,454 - Yes. - So, it was a way for you 889 00:49:49,487 --> 00:49:51,522 to break out and accept who you were? 890 00:49:53,758 --> 00:49:55,760 Yeah, it's not an excuse. I agree. 891 00:49:55,793 --> 00:49:57,162 No, not at all. 892 00:49:57,195 --> 00:49:58,329 It is part of the puzzle. 893 00:49:58,363 --> 00:50:02,167 But you have to look at the causes. 894 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,069 Because if you don't identify causes, 895 00:50:04,102 --> 00:50:06,671 you can't address them. 896 00:50:06,704 --> 00:50:08,773 Now that you've taken care of that problem, 897 00:50:08,806 --> 00:50:11,476 'cause you're brutally honest about it, 898 00:50:11,509 --> 00:50:15,213 and you've come full circle and accepted who you are, 899 00:50:15,246 --> 00:50:17,482 you're not afraid of the subject matter anymore? 900 00:50:17,515 --> 00:50:18,749 No. 901 00:50:18,783 --> 00:50:20,251 That's half the battle right there. 902 00:50:30,195 --> 00:50:31,538 The state of Florida has this program 903 00:50:31,562 --> 00:50:33,464 called the Jimmy Ryce Center. 904 00:50:33,498 --> 00:50:35,233 And it's where they send sex offenders 905 00:50:35,266 --> 00:50:36,334 after their prison sentence, 906 00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:38,136 until they determine that they're not, 907 00:50:38,169 --> 00:50:39,737 probably go commit more crimes. 908 00:50:42,507 --> 00:50:44,775 They send you to Jimmy Ryce for what they call 909 00:50:44,809 --> 00:50:47,312 "long term control, care and treatment". 910 00:50:50,248 --> 00:50:52,850 They have this machine called the PPG, 911 00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:55,086 and basically what it is is, 912 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,487 a wire with a meter, 913 00:50:56,521 --> 00:50:59,724 some sort of a sensor attached to your penis, 914 00:50:59,757 --> 00:51:02,627 and that's hooked to a computer and they show you 915 00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:03,828 pornographic images 916 00:51:03,861 --> 00:51:06,131 somewhere akin to your crimes. 917 00:51:06,164 --> 00:51:08,699 And the idea is to measure your penis growth, 918 00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:10,067 you know, through arousal. 919 00:51:12,737 --> 00:51:14,739 Another one they would use would be taste. 920 00:51:14,772 --> 00:51:16,374 You'd have to taste something horrible, 921 00:51:16,407 --> 00:51:17,708 or even sometimes pain. 922 00:51:17,742 --> 00:51:19,453 They'd take a thumb tack and stick it in your thumb, 923 00:51:19,477 --> 00:51:22,380 or a rubber band and snap it on your wrist or something like that. 924 00:51:22,413 --> 00:51:23,848 And the idea is to try to separate 925 00:51:23,881 --> 00:51:26,417 sexual arousal with deviant behaviors. 926 00:51:28,219 --> 00:51:30,421 I spent eight and a half years there. 927 00:51:30,455 --> 00:51:32,723 I've always told people that there wasn't a single day 928 00:51:32,757 --> 00:51:33,858 that I wanted to be there. 929 00:51:33,891 --> 00:51:34,959 But I was there. 930 00:51:34,992 --> 00:51:36,694 There was nothing I could do about it. 931 00:51:38,196 --> 00:51:39,597 And I figured, you know, 932 00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:41,199 despite the fact that I was already 40, 933 00:51:41,232 --> 00:51:42,500 it was time for me to grow up. 934 00:51:57,715 --> 00:52:01,419 ♪ It's starting To turn winter ♪ 935 00:52:01,452 --> 00:52:04,889 ♪ And the nights Are growing cold ♪ 936 00:52:04,922 --> 00:52:08,759 ♪ With a crick in my neck Downstairs I check ♪ 937 00:52:08,793 --> 00:52:11,629 ♪ For a blanket I can hold 938 00:52:14,565 --> 00:52:18,369 ♪ I can't remember When I last bathed ♪ 939 00:52:18,403 --> 00:52:21,572 ♪ It seems so long ago 940 00:52:21,606 --> 00:52:25,543 ♪ With dirty clothes And filthy hair ♪ 941 00:52:25,576 --> 00:52:28,679 ♪ There's no place I can go ♪ 942 00:52:35,353 --> 00:52:38,423 ♪ Yes, I am the homeless 943 00:52:38,456 --> 00:52:41,926 ♪ I sleep beneath the stars 944 00:52:41,959 --> 00:52:46,197 ♪ In rundown shacks By railroad tracks ♪ 945 00:52:46,231 --> 00:52:49,634 ♪ And in old, abandoned cars 946 00:52:49,667 --> 00:52:52,837 ♪ It's a life Not of my choosing ♪ 947 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:57,242 ♪ And that shall be My legacy ♪ 948 00:52:57,275 --> 00:53:00,878 ♪ Without a home The streets I roam ♪ 949 00:53:00,911 --> 00:53:03,748 ♪ There's no future 950 00:53:04,482 --> 00:53:06,317 ♪ For me 951 00:53:27,305 --> 00:53:29,006 Dustin was still eight, 952 00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:33,344 and we had enrolled him in the YMCA. 953 00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:38,349 One day I went to go pick him up 954 00:53:38,383 --> 00:53:40,451 and they told me, "We can't let you have Dustin. 955 00:53:40,485 --> 00:53:41,585 He's not here." 956 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,030 I said, "What do you mean I can't have him? 957 00:53:44,054 --> 00:53:45,923 Where's he at?" 958 00:53:45,956 --> 00:53:47,792 And the woman pulled me in the room, 959 00:53:47,825 --> 00:53:49,694 and she told me what he had said. 960 00:53:50,861 --> 00:53:54,265 Him and a bunch of little boys were 961 00:53:54,299 --> 00:53:55,800 all talking, 962 00:53:55,833 --> 00:53:58,569 and they were talking about sex. 963 00:53:58,603 --> 00:54:00,638 Like nine-ten year old boys do. 964 00:54:01,572 --> 00:54:02,672 And... 965 00:54:04,675 --> 00:54:06,644 And he had said he had had sex before, 966 00:54:06,677 --> 00:54:07,821 and they said, "No, you haven't." 967 00:54:07,845 --> 00:54:11,549 And he said yeah, he had. He had had sex with his mom. 968 00:54:11,582 --> 00:54:13,751 And they got the counselors and everything, 969 00:54:13,784 --> 00:54:14,885 and they took him. 970 00:54:16,654 --> 00:54:17,755 And, um... 971 00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:22,727 They took him to, like... 972 00:54:24,562 --> 00:54:26,897 Like a group home, 973 00:54:26,931 --> 00:54:28,699 juvenile place. 974 00:54:28,733 --> 00:54:31,536 And they let me go see him with supervision and stuff. 975 00:54:32,637 --> 00:54:34,405 And... 976 00:54:34,439 --> 00:54:36,941 one thing that I hated about my father, 977 00:54:36,974 --> 00:54:39,043 'cause he would never tell me he was sorry. 978 00:54:39,777 --> 00:54:41,011 Or that I was right, 979 00:54:41,045 --> 00:54:42,680 and that he was wrong for what he did. 980 00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:47,485 And I didn't wanna do that to Dustin. 981 00:54:47,518 --> 00:54:50,588 So, one of the first things that I did when I seen him 982 00:54:50,621 --> 00:54:52,323 is I gave him a hug 983 00:54:52,357 --> 00:54:53,858 and I told him that I wasn't mad. 984 00:54:54,492 --> 00:54:56,293 I was actually... 985 00:54:57,962 --> 00:54:59,964 I was glad it was over. 986 00:55:00,931 --> 00:55:02,933 I didn't have... I could... 987 00:55:04,735 --> 00:55:06,036 breathe. 988 00:55:06,070 --> 00:55:09,574 I don't know if I can say that, but it was like... 989 00:55:11,742 --> 00:55:14,044 everything that I was running... 990 00:55:14,078 --> 00:55:16,581 And I didn't even know that I was running from. 991 00:55:17,982 --> 00:55:19,717 Was over. 992 00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:21,486 You know, he was safe now 993 00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:22,720 and it was over. 994 00:55:24,755 --> 00:55:27,758 And I called... They called... 995 00:55:27,792 --> 00:55:30,428 The court people called Steve... 996 00:55:32,697 --> 00:55:35,966 And the last day I seen him 997 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,837 they let me take him out to the little park where they had... 998 00:55:42,607 --> 00:55:45,976 And, um, they had these swings. 999 00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:48,446 And he was sitting on my lap, and I told him. 1000 00:55:48,479 --> 00:55:50,515 I said, "Dustin, I love you so much." 1001 00:55:52,617 --> 00:55:56,854 And I said, "I am so sorry for hurting you. 1002 00:55:56,887 --> 00:55:59,657 For doing everything." 1003 00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:02,760 I said, "Not just for that, but for everything. 1004 00:56:02,793 --> 00:56:04,529 For putting you 1005 00:56:05,162 --> 00:56:06,497 through everything... 1006 00:56:07,698 --> 00:56:08,999 that I've done to you. 1007 00:56:09,033 --> 00:56:11,602 The places, the people, everything." 1008 00:56:13,571 --> 00:56:15,005 And I said, "I'm not mad at you. 1009 00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:17,408 You did right. You did what you should've done, 1010 00:56:17,442 --> 00:56:19,544 and I'm proud of you." 1011 00:56:19,577 --> 00:56:22,379 And those were the last words I got to say to him. 1012 00:56:23,614 --> 00:56:25,916 And they just... left. 1013 00:56:27,518 --> 00:56:30,187 I was supposed to see him the next morning. 1014 00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:32,757 I didn't know those were going to be my last words. 1015 00:56:34,058 --> 00:56:35,826 But I wanted him to know, 1016 00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:37,662 because my whole life 1017 00:56:37,695 --> 00:56:39,997 I wanted my dad to tell me that. 1018 00:56:41,231 --> 00:56:43,634 My whole life I waited for that, 1019 00:56:43,668 --> 00:56:46,103 or for my mom to tell me she was sorry, 1020 00:56:46,136 --> 00:56:47,605 that she loved me. 1021 00:56:51,008 --> 00:56:53,978 And I wasn't gonna make him go through the same thing. 1022 00:56:58,583 --> 00:57:00,117 I turned myself in. 1023 00:57:00,150 --> 00:57:02,720 Went in, signed the paperwork. 1024 00:57:02,753 --> 00:57:05,222 I said, "Whatever my son said I did, 1025 00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:07,191 print it out, I'll sign it." 1026 00:57:07,224 --> 00:57:09,126 The judge looked at me and he says, 1027 00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:10,828 "Do you know what you're signing?" 1028 00:57:10,861 --> 00:57:12,029 I said, "I don't care." 1029 00:57:13,498 --> 00:57:15,966 He says, "Ma'am, what that books says 1030 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,503 is that if they choose to, they could put you 1031 00:57:18,536 --> 00:57:21,171 in Jimmy Ryce for the rest of your life." 1032 00:57:21,205 --> 00:57:23,040 And I said, "I don't care." 1033 00:57:25,776 --> 00:57:27,678 The only thing... I wrote a letter, 1034 00:57:27,712 --> 00:57:28,579 and the only thing I asked 1035 00:57:28,613 --> 00:57:31,549 was if they would please put a stipulation 1036 00:57:31,582 --> 00:57:34,018 to where I could have contact with my son. 1037 00:57:40,057 --> 00:57:42,760 There's no healing in this business. 1038 00:57:42,793 --> 00:57:45,663 Once you convict the offender and send them off to prison, 1039 00:57:45,696 --> 00:57:48,165 the system disappears for the victim and the family. 1040 00:57:48,198 --> 00:57:49,366 There's no help. 1041 00:57:49,399 --> 00:57:52,069 So nobody's really working on what happened, 1042 00:57:52,102 --> 00:57:53,270 or what people think. 1043 00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:57,207 I don't want to demonize the victim business. 1044 00:57:57,241 --> 00:57:59,109 It's almost like a religion in this country. 1045 00:57:59,143 --> 00:58:00,845 But there's something wrong with it. 1046 00:58:00,878 --> 00:58:02,947 They only perceive women as victims, 1047 00:58:02,980 --> 00:58:05,750 they refuse to accept that men are victims. 1048 00:58:05,783 --> 00:58:07,552 They don't even wanna go near 1049 00:58:07,585 --> 00:58:10,087 the fact that the sex offenders are victims. 1050 00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:15,626 Offenders will continue to act out 1051 00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:17,728 until they're stopped 1052 00:58:17,762 --> 00:58:20,531 and they understand their behavior. 1053 00:58:20,565 --> 00:58:23,934 So, of you look at it mathematically, 1054 00:58:23,968 --> 00:58:27,572 treating one offender might prevent 10 more victims 1055 00:58:27,605 --> 00:58:29,640 from being created. 1056 00:58:29,674 --> 00:58:32,977 The DOC thinks all they have to do is sit on them 1057 00:58:33,010 --> 00:58:35,913 for five or ten years of probation 1058 00:58:35,946 --> 00:58:38,849 and then that's all that's necessary. 1059 00:58:38,883 --> 00:58:40,217 My take on it is 1060 00:58:40,250 --> 00:58:42,720 they have to really be re-trained 1061 00:58:42,753 --> 00:58:45,723 and change the way they live and think 1062 00:58:45,756 --> 00:58:47,157 about their own histories 1063 00:58:47,191 --> 00:58:49,226 and their own dysfunctional families, 1064 00:58:49,259 --> 00:58:50,828 and their own addiction issues, 1065 00:58:50,861 --> 00:58:53,097 so they can go out and 1066 00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:55,633 make some real changes in their own communities. 1067 00:58:55,666 --> 00:58:59,737 I see it a little more of a sociological issue 1068 00:58:59,770 --> 00:59:00,805 than law enforcement, 1069 00:59:00,838 --> 00:59:03,140 which is more of a containment issue. 1070 00:59:03,173 --> 00:59:04,842 All we wanna do is punish. 1071 00:59:04,875 --> 00:59:06,711 Castrate them. 1072 00:59:06,744 --> 00:59:08,746 And make their lives miserable. 1073 00:59:08,779 --> 00:59:10,981 And you know, a lot of people would say 1074 00:59:11,015 --> 00:59:12,883 they deserve it, and maybe they do. 1075 00:59:12,917 --> 00:59:15,119 But I'm a counselor. 1076 00:59:15,152 --> 00:59:18,055 I believe in doing what is gonna help, 1077 00:59:18,088 --> 00:59:19,189 not hurt. 1078 00:59:26,363 --> 00:59:29,233 I drove down to Mexico and raped a five year old girl. 1079 00:59:31,301 --> 00:59:32,703 I was having 1080 00:59:33,804 --> 00:59:35,806 relationship issues at the time. 1081 00:59:36,674 --> 00:59:38,709 And I... 1082 00:59:40,711 --> 00:59:42,680 went down there looking for a prostitute. 1083 00:59:43,714 --> 00:59:45,215 And when I didn't find that, 1084 00:59:47,117 --> 00:59:49,086 my thinking led me 1085 00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:53,057 to just start looking for any female I could find. 1086 00:59:53,090 --> 00:59:55,359 So, it's like an escape for you? 1087 00:59:55,392 --> 00:59:58,095 Sex is like a safety valve 1088 00:59:58,128 --> 01:00:00,865 when you're very frustrated, ready to blow? 1089 01:00:00,898 --> 01:00:03,901 Yes. That's a good way of putting it, yes. 1090 01:00:03,934 --> 01:00:06,336 You just have to somehow 1091 01:00:06,370 --> 01:00:09,073 discharge that energy and-- 1092 01:00:09,106 --> 01:00:13,878 Or at the time, sex was the way I wanted to discharge 1093 01:00:13,911 --> 01:00:16,914 that pent up frustration. 1094 01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:18,883 Was it kind of revenge against your partner 1095 01:00:18,916 --> 01:00:22,186 who had broken your heart and let you down? 1096 01:00:22,219 --> 01:00:24,421 It was probably revenge against all women at that time. 1097 01:00:24,454 --> 01:00:27,291 All women? Okay. So there is an anger component. 1098 01:00:27,324 --> 01:00:28,993 Oh, yes. There was. 1099 01:00:29,026 --> 01:00:32,196 Do you believe it was something that was escalating? 1100 01:00:32,229 --> 01:00:34,098 Yes. Absolutely. I do. 1101 01:00:34,131 --> 01:00:37,334 Did you ever try to, like, tell your parents, 1102 01:00:37,367 --> 01:00:38,936 or talk to your best friend? 1103 01:00:38,969 --> 01:00:41,005 I was afraid. Just scared shitless. 1104 01:00:41,038 --> 01:00:43,207 Afraid to even talk about it with them, 1105 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,711 because, like someone else just mentioned, 1106 01:00:46,744 --> 01:00:51,782 I wasn't sure if I was just voicing these thoughts and stuff. 1107 01:00:51,816 --> 01:00:53,183 It was gonna get me locked up. 1108 01:00:53,217 --> 01:00:54,919 It is an issue. 1109 01:00:54,952 --> 01:00:57,421 People that get in situations just don't know where to turn. 1110 01:00:57,454 --> 01:00:59,089 - That is an issue. - Right. 1111 01:00:59,123 --> 01:01:00,057 I agree with that. 1112 01:01:00,090 --> 01:01:02,727 Within nine months of my previous release, 1113 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,796 I also started to view child pornography, 1114 01:01:05,830 --> 01:01:10,000 both rape porn... pornography 1115 01:01:10,034 --> 01:01:11,836 and child pornography. 1116 01:01:11,869 --> 01:01:16,106 So, this wasn't like exactly a new theme for you. 1117 01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:17,374 No, it wasn't-- 1118 01:01:17,407 --> 01:01:18,651 It was something that was ongoing. 1119 01:01:18,675 --> 01:01:21,979 Yes, it has always been something in pornography that I watch. 1120 01:01:23,948 --> 01:01:27,351 I know that some fantasies that I've had... 1121 01:01:30,420 --> 01:01:33,323 Violence against women have been a real big thing about it. 1122 01:01:34,358 --> 01:01:36,460 And one of the things... 1123 01:01:37,394 --> 01:01:39,463 One of the things for me 1124 01:01:40,931 --> 01:01:43,300 is sharing that. 1125 01:01:45,836 --> 01:01:48,172 I do that with a very select group of people, 1126 01:01:48,205 --> 01:01:51,208 because some of it can be quite disturbing to other people. 1127 01:01:51,241 --> 01:01:53,844 I have to feel comfortable that they're not gonna... 1128 01:01:56,781 --> 01:01:58,916 That's not gonna change their opinion of me. 1129 01:02:13,263 --> 01:02:15,232 People like me... 1130 01:02:15,265 --> 01:02:18,135 I mean, the violent people like me... 1131 01:02:18,168 --> 01:02:20,304 There should be some labeling on us. 1132 01:02:21,238 --> 01:02:23,140 There needs to be... 1133 01:02:24,208 --> 01:02:26,010 for my tier, 1134 01:02:26,043 --> 01:02:29,346 which I would say is one of the higher tiers 1135 01:02:29,379 --> 01:02:31,281 of sex offenders, 1136 01:02:31,315 --> 01:02:33,784 There needs to be 1137 01:02:33,818 --> 01:02:37,554 some label on, so the police... 1138 01:02:37,587 --> 01:02:40,290 So some people maybe in the community know. 1139 01:02:41,225 --> 01:02:42,927 Not to punish 'em, 1140 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,929 not to bring 'em down, 1141 01:02:44,962 --> 01:02:46,931 but for a way to help 'em. 1142 01:02:46,964 --> 01:02:48,465 Make sure they don't re-offend. 1143 01:03:06,416 --> 01:03:08,585 I would like to be a professor at a university, 1144 01:03:08,618 --> 01:03:10,154 teaching film studies 1145 01:03:10,187 --> 01:03:12,089 and publishing articles and books, 1146 01:03:14,258 --> 01:03:15,860 I've got to get my PhD. 1147 01:03:15,893 --> 01:03:17,527 The professor thing's still possible. 1148 01:03:17,561 --> 01:03:20,330 It's just gonna be harder now. 1149 01:03:20,364 --> 01:03:22,566 The school administrations might not want me. 1150 01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,169 So, I've just got to make my work that much better 1151 01:03:25,202 --> 01:03:26,336 and try to sell myself. 1152 01:03:29,940 --> 01:03:32,910 I like to think of myself as this, like, 1153 01:03:32,943 --> 01:03:35,245 angry Leftist punk guy, but like... 1154 01:03:37,647 --> 01:03:39,984 I try to be loving to the people close to me. 1155 01:03:40,017 --> 01:03:42,586 I try to do right by them. 1156 01:03:45,555 --> 01:03:47,524 I guess I'm a brutal feminist. 1157 01:03:47,557 --> 01:03:48,558 It's a bizarre thing, 1158 01:03:48,592 --> 01:03:49,936 especially in America, because it's... 1159 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:54,231 still seen as negative, or seen as this radical thing 1160 01:03:54,264 --> 01:03:56,000 where you think women are better than men. 1161 01:03:56,033 --> 01:03:57,101 And all feminism means 1162 01:03:57,134 --> 01:03:58,969 is you believe men and women are equal. 1163 01:04:03,507 --> 01:04:06,576 As a felon, I can't vote, and I don't really care. 1164 01:04:06,610 --> 01:04:10,114 There's not gonna be a politician that 1165 01:04:10,147 --> 01:04:12,950 is gonna agree with my views anyway. 1166 01:04:12,983 --> 01:04:14,451 So, it's not a huge deal. 1167 01:04:14,484 --> 01:04:16,086 I'm always gonna be a loser. 1168 01:04:24,995 --> 01:04:25,996 Sometimes it still feels like, 1169 01:04:26,030 --> 01:04:28,532 I wake up and I'm like, "Is this real? 1170 01:04:28,565 --> 01:04:30,534 Is this a dream?" 1171 01:04:30,567 --> 01:04:32,536 It sounds like a cliche, but I've had days 1172 01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:34,529 where I'm like, "Oh, this can't possibly be real." 1173 01:04:37,141 --> 01:04:41,578 And I have to deal with all these restrictions. 1174 01:04:44,081 --> 01:04:47,151 But then I think of other people 1175 01:04:47,184 --> 01:04:49,486 who got off a lot worse than I do, 1176 01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:52,522 and I can't help feel a little fortunate. 1177 01:04:52,556 --> 01:04:56,560 Because no one got as light a sentence on my charges. 1178 01:04:56,593 --> 01:05:00,097 Everyone's getting between four and 12 years 1179 01:05:00,130 --> 01:05:01,798 and I got one. 1180 01:05:01,831 --> 01:05:05,069 But I have to register as a sex offender for the rest of my life. 1181 01:05:27,124 --> 01:05:30,527 I was sentenced to 11 years in prison 1182 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,530 for lewd, lascivious 1183 01:05:34,999 --> 01:05:38,935 sexual battery on my eight year old son. 1184 01:05:40,237 --> 01:05:41,538 And, um... 1185 01:05:42,672 --> 01:05:45,275 a lot of circumstances around it. 1186 01:05:45,309 --> 01:05:46,409 But, um... 1187 01:05:47,744 --> 01:05:50,180 I was talkin' to a gentleman on the internet, 1188 01:05:50,214 --> 01:05:52,282 and he kept telling me that 1189 01:05:52,316 --> 01:05:54,684 if I asked Dustin for permission, 1190 01:05:54,718 --> 01:05:57,154 that it would be okay. 1191 01:05:57,787 --> 01:05:59,289 And... 1192 01:06:00,224 --> 01:06:01,992 Somewhere in my twisted 1193 01:06:02,759 --> 01:06:03,960 way of thinking, and-- 1194 01:06:05,429 --> 01:06:07,264 Did your dad ask you permission? 1195 01:06:07,297 --> 01:06:09,233 Or pretend to give you control? 1196 01:06:09,266 --> 01:06:12,069 I was daddy's little girl. 1197 01:06:12,102 --> 01:06:15,039 And that was his way of showing me that he loved me. 1198 01:06:15,072 --> 01:06:16,473 And that's how he groomed you, 1199 01:06:16,506 --> 01:06:19,743 and he got you to, you know, respond. 1200 01:06:20,410 --> 01:06:22,579 "Sure, daddy." 1201 01:06:22,612 --> 01:06:24,681 - So-- -So that's why you would believe that. 1202 01:06:24,714 --> 01:06:26,650 - Yeah. - You were groomed the same way. 1203 01:06:26,683 --> 01:06:28,052 Right. 1204 01:06:28,085 --> 01:06:30,654 But it created 1205 01:06:30,687 --> 01:06:33,390 my son to offend when he was 13... 1206 01:06:34,324 --> 01:06:37,061 on a three year old little boy. 1207 01:06:37,094 --> 01:06:39,129 And he got sentenced to a year in juvie. 1208 01:06:39,796 --> 01:06:42,532 And now he's in prison 1209 01:06:43,233 --> 01:06:45,001 for... 1210 01:06:45,635 --> 01:06:46,570 armed robbery. 1211 01:06:46,603 --> 01:06:48,605 All behind trickle effects. 1212 01:06:48,638 --> 01:06:51,175 He never got therapy. I didn't get therapy. 1213 01:06:51,208 --> 01:06:53,143 My father never got therapy. 1214 01:06:53,177 --> 01:06:56,380 It's a cycle of dysfunctional, 1215 01:06:56,413 --> 01:06:58,148 almost addictive behavior 1216 01:06:58,182 --> 01:06:59,483 passed down. 1217 01:06:59,516 --> 01:07:01,218 It was a family trait, 1218 01:07:01,251 --> 01:07:03,787 and everybody in the family is affected by it. 1219 01:07:05,289 --> 01:07:07,091 Do you feel that, 1220 01:07:07,124 --> 01:07:09,059 you know, the powers that be, 1221 01:07:09,093 --> 01:07:11,528 the gods of the universe are trying to help you 1222 01:07:11,561 --> 01:07:12,662 sort all this out? 1223 01:07:12,696 --> 01:07:13,763 Or do you still feel yourself 1224 01:07:13,797 --> 01:07:16,500 as a victim being punished? 1225 01:07:16,533 --> 01:07:19,536 No, I don't see myself as a victim. 1226 01:07:19,569 --> 01:07:22,072 It's like, the other day 1227 01:07:22,106 --> 01:07:24,174 a guy made a comment in class about, 1228 01:07:24,208 --> 01:07:26,743 you know, sex offenders being monsters. 1229 01:07:26,776 --> 01:07:29,579 And not everyone is. 1230 01:07:29,613 --> 01:07:31,715 And I don't... 1231 01:07:31,748 --> 01:07:33,850 I don't believe that sex offenders are monsters. 1232 01:07:33,883 --> 01:07:36,286 Have you met any monsters in the palace? 1233 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:37,654 No, just me. 1234 01:07:37,687 --> 01:07:39,723 Anybody that can take something... 1235 01:07:39,756 --> 01:07:42,526 In my mind, this is how I feel. 1236 01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:45,595 I took away the most innocent thing out of my son, 1237 01:07:46,463 --> 01:07:48,198 and created 1238 01:07:48,232 --> 01:07:50,300 and taught him things that he should've never known. 1239 01:07:52,502 --> 01:07:55,339 I think that if I would have been able 1240 01:07:55,372 --> 01:07:58,575 to have had someone allow me to 1241 01:07:58,608 --> 01:08:00,744 speak what I really wanted to, 1242 01:08:01,445 --> 01:08:03,147 or you know, 1243 01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:05,815 help me learn that that's not the way it's supposed to be. 1244 01:08:07,717 --> 01:08:10,620 You know what, I can't... 1245 01:08:15,692 --> 01:08:19,363 Just to be able to get help with it, 1246 01:08:19,396 --> 01:08:22,132 to where it doesn't wind up being 1247 01:08:22,166 --> 01:08:25,735 everything that you see and then you don't know the difference anymore, 1248 01:08:25,769 --> 01:08:28,605 and that's your life. 1249 01:08:28,638 --> 01:08:32,176 And that's the only avenue that you know. 1250 01:08:32,209 --> 01:08:33,743 So, that's what you do. 1251 01:08:34,644 --> 01:08:37,381 Not everybody goes that route. 1252 01:08:37,414 --> 01:08:40,617 But that's the part that I held on to, 1253 01:08:40,650 --> 01:08:43,753 because that was my dad and my dad loved me. 1254 01:08:43,787 --> 01:08:46,256 So, since my dad loved me, 1255 01:08:46,290 --> 01:08:48,258 then it was okay. 1256 01:08:51,628 --> 01:08:55,165 But my son wrote my probation officer 1257 01:08:56,433 --> 01:09:00,570 and asked to have contact with me, 1258 01:09:00,604 --> 01:09:01,871 that he had forgiven me, 1259 01:09:02,906 --> 01:09:04,941 and that he would like to rebuild 1260 01:09:04,974 --> 01:09:06,710 his relationship with me. 1261 01:09:09,246 --> 01:09:11,648 So, I'm working on that now. 1262 01:09:11,681 --> 01:09:13,417 On a motion for that. 1263 01:09:16,953 --> 01:09:18,688 I'm in college. 1264 01:09:20,557 --> 01:09:25,695 Just got my first 4.0 ever. 1265 01:09:25,729 --> 01:09:26,829 Ever. 1266 01:09:28,965 --> 01:09:30,700 And, um... 1267 01:09:34,271 --> 01:09:35,705 It's not as bad as it looks. 1268 01:09:50,687 --> 01:09:51,721 I made some changes in my life. 1269 01:09:51,755 --> 01:09:53,423 I made some changes in my thinking. 1270 01:09:53,457 --> 01:09:56,726 You know, how I respond to the world, how I react to the world. 1271 01:09:58,562 --> 01:10:01,598 I had one counselor. They took me in her office for six months. 1272 01:10:01,631 --> 01:10:03,400 And we would sit down for an hour and a half 1273 01:10:03,433 --> 01:10:04,834 so she could teach me how to cry. 1274 01:10:04,868 --> 01:10:06,370 'Cause I couldn't cry. 1275 01:10:06,403 --> 01:10:08,238 My parents beat all of that out of me. 1276 01:10:08,272 --> 01:10:10,307 There was no crying. That made it worse. 1277 01:10:10,340 --> 01:10:12,342 I didn't even cry when my son was killed. 1278 01:10:12,376 --> 01:10:13,519 But I've learned how to do that. 1279 01:10:13,543 --> 01:10:14,754 I've learned how to interact with people. 1280 01:10:14,778 --> 01:10:17,381 You know, I appreciate being able to socialize. 1281 01:10:18,515 --> 01:10:19,949 I believe this is it. 1282 01:10:27,524 --> 01:10:29,025 Right out here is Hanes Road. 1283 01:10:29,058 --> 01:10:30,303 And I sit on my porch in the morning, 1284 01:10:30,327 --> 01:10:32,396 and I have my cup of coffee. It's nice and quiet. 1285 01:10:33,062 --> 01:10:34,097 And one day, 1286 01:10:34,130 --> 01:10:36,333 I guess it was about six months ago, 1287 01:10:36,366 --> 01:10:37,810 a gentleman came flying up in his truck, 1288 01:10:37,834 --> 01:10:39,403 pointing a gun at me. 1289 01:10:39,436 --> 01:10:41,338 Telling me that 1290 01:10:41,371 --> 01:10:44,374 if I stalked his daughters he was going to kill me. 1291 01:10:44,408 --> 01:10:45,409 I don't know who this man is, 1292 01:10:45,442 --> 01:10:46,810 I don't know who his daughters are, 1293 01:10:46,843 --> 01:10:48,854 I don't know what he's talking about. So, I asked him. 1294 01:10:48,878 --> 01:10:49,946 Probably with a very shaky voice, 1295 01:10:49,979 --> 01:10:52,416 'cause there was a gun pointed at my face. 1296 01:10:52,449 --> 01:10:54,017 He thought I was stalking his daughters, 1297 01:10:54,050 --> 01:10:56,586 'cause they walked down this road to go to school. 1298 01:10:56,620 --> 01:10:58,755 And honestly, I never even noticed them. 1299 01:10:58,788 --> 01:11:00,600 There's a lot of people that walk up and down the street. 1300 01:11:00,624 --> 01:11:02,635 I don't pay attention to them, especially in the morning. 1301 01:11:02,659 --> 01:11:05,362 In the morning I'm thinking about what my day's gonna be. 1302 01:11:05,395 --> 01:11:06,630 And you know... 1303 01:11:06,663 --> 01:11:08,441 And when I talked to him, we actually sat down, 1304 01:11:08,465 --> 01:11:09,399 we had a cup of coffee together. 1305 01:11:09,433 --> 01:11:11,134 He turned out to be a nice guy. 1306 01:11:11,167 --> 01:11:12,512 And once he saw that I wasn't this monster that he thought I was... 1307 01:11:12,536 --> 01:11:15,004 He's actually been to back the house a couple of times. 1308 01:11:15,038 --> 01:11:15,939 Have a beer. 1309 01:11:15,972 --> 01:11:17,941 And we had dinner one night. 1310 01:11:17,974 --> 01:11:22,612 No street light and no city lights. 1311 01:11:22,646 --> 01:11:24,648 We always bitch about the system. 1312 01:11:24,681 --> 01:11:27,050 Probation this, this, this... 1313 01:11:27,083 --> 01:11:28,552 We get mad at society. 1314 01:11:28,585 --> 01:11:29,895 Society doesn't... They don't know any better. 1315 01:11:29,919 --> 01:11:32,422 They don't get any other story, because most of us 1316 01:11:32,456 --> 01:11:34,558 we don't wanna go and talk about this. 1317 01:11:34,591 --> 01:11:35,735 You know, we did this bad thing. 1318 01:11:35,759 --> 01:11:37,627 And we still have this bad self image. 1319 01:11:37,661 --> 01:11:39,496 Most of us got a low self esteem issue 1320 01:11:39,529 --> 01:11:40,873 that pretty much led to what we were doing 1321 01:11:40,897 --> 01:11:42,566 in the first place. 1322 01:11:42,599 --> 01:11:44,444 They're not gonna hear anything unless we tell 'em. 1323 01:11:44,468 --> 01:11:45,769 We have to humanize ourselves. 1324 01:11:45,802 --> 01:11:47,437 'Cause we're not human beings to them. 1325 01:11:47,471 --> 01:11:48,838 We're a title, we're a monster, 1326 01:11:48,872 --> 01:11:50,907 we're a bogeyman, whatever it is. 1327 01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:52,809 There's 120 people living in this park. 1328 01:11:52,842 --> 01:11:54,744 That's 120 ambassadors 1329 01:11:54,778 --> 01:11:56,446 that every day have an opportunity 1330 01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:57,614 to open somebody's eyes. 1331 01:11:57,947 --> 01:11:59,047 Every day. 1332 01:11:59,949 --> 01:12:01,785 The only way that's gonna happen 1333 01:12:01,818 --> 01:12:04,454 is you've got to go out and let people see 1334 01:12:04,488 --> 01:12:05,588 that you're a human being. 1335 01:12:18,535 --> 01:12:21,371 There's only two things that we can do in life 1336 01:12:21,405 --> 01:12:22,439 when things go wrong. 1337 01:12:22,472 --> 01:12:24,941 We're either a part of the problem, 1338 01:12:24,974 --> 01:12:26,776 or a part of the solution. 1339 01:12:27,977 --> 01:12:29,479 Hello. You got a minute? 1340 01:12:29,513 --> 01:12:31,114 You got a minute for an old friend? 1341 01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:33,483 Sure. Come on in. 1342 01:12:33,517 --> 01:12:35,819 My own son was arrested. 1343 01:12:35,852 --> 01:12:39,088 You don't believe it's gonna ever happen in your family. 1344 01:12:39,122 --> 01:12:42,659 And I took, I guess, my anxiety, 1345 01:12:42,692 --> 01:12:46,796 and tried to replace it with another energy. 1346 01:12:46,830 --> 01:12:49,733 And thus was born Florida Justice. 1347 01:12:50,934 --> 01:12:52,802 This was 20 years ago. 1348 01:12:52,836 --> 01:12:54,604 So much time has passed. 1349 01:12:54,638 --> 01:12:56,606 And everything's kind of moved on, 1350 01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,542 except for one thing, that stigma. 1351 01:13:00,009 --> 01:13:01,678 I can only ask you, 1352 01:13:01,711 --> 01:13:03,480 do you have a child? 1353 01:13:03,513 --> 01:13:04,614 We have a son. 1354 01:13:04,648 --> 01:13:05,949 You think he's perfect? 1355 01:13:05,982 --> 01:13:07,917 - Mmm-hmm. - Sure? 1356 01:13:07,951 --> 01:13:09,586 There's not a mother in the world 1357 01:13:09,619 --> 01:13:11,488 who doesn't hold that little child 1358 01:13:11,521 --> 01:13:13,790 and think, "Thank God. 1359 01:13:13,823 --> 01:13:16,125 It's the most wonderful present in the whole world." 1360 01:13:17,661 --> 01:13:19,195 But that child grows up 1361 01:13:19,228 --> 01:13:21,698 and that child does something bad. 1362 01:13:21,731 --> 01:13:22,999 He makes a mistake. 1363 01:13:24,668 --> 01:13:25,768 Just one. 1364 01:13:27,971 --> 01:13:29,606 Never to be forgiven. 1365 01:13:39,048 --> 01:13:41,785 These are mine. Everybody can have everything else. 1366 01:13:41,818 --> 01:13:43,178 You're starving everybody to death. 1367 01:13:44,654 --> 01:13:45,955 Good for you, girl. 1368 01:13:51,094 --> 01:13:53,563 ...figure out that they could shelter in the toilets 1369 01:13:53,597 --> 01:13:56,633 overnight... 1370 01:13:56,666 --> 01:13:58,535 So, they put a timer on 'em. 1371 01:13:58,568 --> 01:14:00,003 So you put your little money... 94428

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