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Original subtitles

Georgios Papadopoulos: Dictator

Yet once shall I attempt a comparison with doctors

We have a patient; we've placed him in a plaster cast.

Dominique Strauss-Kahn: IMF Managing Director

Don't decide against the doctor, sometimes the doctor gives you

a medicine you don't like, but even if you don't like the medicine

the doctor is there to try to help you.

As has been said before, history has this wicked habit

of repeating itself �as farce�.

So, from a dictator/wannabe-doctor, we moved on to the MDs of the IMF.

Andreas Papandreou: PM of Greece 1981-1990, 1993-1996

Everybody has to join in the struggle, fully aware that

either the nation will obliterate its huge debt or the huge debt will obliterate the nation.

Constantinos Mitsotakis: PM of Greece 1990-1993

This year's incomes policy will be strict and austere.

No raises will be given whatsoever.

Costas Simitis: Greece PM, 1996-2004

There is no more room for benefits or tax cuts.

Costas Karamanlis: PM of Greece, 2004-2009

We have to cut public spending, we have to tidy up our house.

And this cannot be achieved with your empty promises

of handing out money and privileges at a time of such crisis.

Giorgos Papandreou: PM of Greece

Unfortunately, our country is in the ICU. The nation's fiscal deadlock

threatens our sovereignty for the first time since 1974.

In the last 40 years, two political parties, 3 families of politicians

along with certain businessmen, led the country to bankruptcy.

They declared suspension of payments to the people, in order to save their lenders.

After decades of continuous austerity, the Czars of the economy

advertised Greece as the local financial superpower.

Yannos Papantoniou Minister for Finance 1994-2001

Our work is great. We were the first to solve the economic problems.

N. Christodoulakis Minister for Finance 2001-2004

Once more, our economy will prove to be our strongest asset.

Yannos Papantoniou Minister for Finance 1994-2001

The economy sprang forward and went from second to first league.

When their creation crumbled, those people said behind our back

that, due to some genetic disorder, we were incapable of handling

our economy without foreign aid.

Perhaps Americans may find it difficult to understand this

but Greece lacks hability in control of ?? and discipline.

Our government called us bums, and our lenders �PIIGS�...

as was the case with all peripheral EU countries.

And our ministers tried to convince us that all of us had a part in this.

Brian Lenihan Ireland's Minister of Finance 2008-2011

I accept that we failed into our political system

but let's be fair about it, we're all part of it.

Theodoros Pangalos Vice-president of the Greek government

The answer to the denouncement of the country's politicians

that makes people ask us, �what did you do with the money?� is:

We made you civil servants! We all had a part in this!

So are we the prodigal children of a neat global economy

in an all-successful Europe?

Or has the system been ailing since its youth?

Capitalist economy in the post-war period consists of two parts.

Costas Lapavitsas Professor in Economics

In the first 25 years after World War II, the growth rate was high.

Real income rose, as did the consumption of goods.

Those were novel circumstances in the history of capitalism.

Joe is the king because he can buy more with his wages

then any other worker on the blow.

David Harvey - Social scientist

There's no such thing as a crisis free capitalism.

So, there's gonna be a crisis somewhere.

This happy period ended in the mid-Seventies.

From then on, we entered a period of low growth, recurrent crises...

suppressed, if any, rises in workers' income� and high unemployment.

Mature capitalist countries found it difficult...

to accrue wealth.

This period was marked by a huge growth in the financial system

which was termed financialisation.

Financialisation brought on and intensified the crises.

When the US housing bubble burst

the financial system came close to total collapse.

As a result, it affected the real economy, which had its own structural problems.

States took rescue measures. They used tax-payers' money

to save the banks and restore demand.

Thus, the financial crisis went fiscal.

And those same banks which were saved by the tax-payers

decided to bite the hand that fed them, by gambling on state bankruptcies.

Speculation makes things worse in Greece, too.

Only, this time, the problem is even deeper.

It's time for the Eurozone to pay.

King Euro proves naked, mainly because he's a king without a state.

Samir Amin - Economist - There cannot be a currency without a state.

Despite their weaknesses, the advantage of the US dollar...

among other things, is that there is a state called the USA.

Europe does not exist as a political entity.

There's no legitimized political power connecting its states.

In my opinion, the Eurozone is not viable.

In contrast to the USA, where the federal government

and the Federal Reserve System intervene to ameliorate inequalities

among states, the Eurozone accentuates inequality.

This is how the PIIGS, the poor relatives of the EU, came into existence.

The Eurozone is divided distinctly into central and peripheral states.

The crisis is most intense in the peripheral states.

The central states, especially Germany, are winners because of the Euro.

The competitiveness of EU states came to vary a lot

and the competitiveness of peripheral countries fell steadily and systematically behind.

This was directly due to the Euro.

�ric Toussaint, president of the Committee for the Abolition of Third World Debt - The crisis in the EU was a result of the way Europe was integrated.

With Greece, it's like putting Muhammad Ali

the World Heavyweight Champion, in the ring with a featherweight boxer

and telling them: �Start fighting and let's see who wins�.

Why are the peripheral countries lagging behind in competitiveness?

Most of all, what causes this divergence to keep increasing?

The myth of the "lazy periphery" and "industrious Germany"...

with its "high productivity" is just that. All the German governments managed

was to declare war on their own work-force...

and freeze their salaries for a decade.

Sahra Wagenknecht - Deputy Chairperson, Die Linke - In recent years, the nominal increase in salaries was 7% (in Germany)

while in the Eurozone it was 27%.

This gap logically results in loss of competitiveness in other countries.

When salaries go down in one country, while they go up in all the others

it's only natural that the competitiveness of the German economy is boosted

while the other countries are unable to follow.

The Eurozone countries are no longer able to devaluate their currency.

This resulted in the establishment of a mechanism

which was bound to lead to the results we have today.

Costas Lapavitsas - Professor in Economics: - The loss of competitiveness manifested itself in two ways

both of which played a decisive part in the crisis.

Firstly, great deficits occurred in current transactions.

And Greece had the greatest deficit of all. When you're unable to compete

your transactions with the rest of the world result in a deficit.

And Greece�s deficit is huge.

But this goes for the other peripheral countries, as well.

This phenomenon went hand-in-hand with the accruing of debt.

If you have such deficits, you must balance them somehow.

In the EU, Greece is the poor relative.

Greece belongs to the European Continent's semi-peripheral countries.

It's evident that Greece was bound to accrue national debt

given the circumstances of its integration into European markets.

I won't even bother with the rumour that Greeks are lazy.

That's pure racism.

The Eurozone destroys the immune system of peripheral countries

leaving them exposed to the global crisis.

The Achilles' heel of those countries is deficit and debt.

In our case, the debt is rooted

deep in the history of the Greek state.

Manolis Glezos - historical figure of the Greek Left - From the time of the Revolution of 1821, our country

started borrowing. And it's been borrowing ever since.

With one exception.

During an extraordinarily "happy" period, Greece managed to become a lender.

During the German Occupation, Greece lent to Germany.

The Germans forced Greece to become a lender instead of a borrower.

After the German Occupation ended, the country resumed its traditional role;

that of a borrower.

And national debt as we know it, started to rise in the 1980s.

The high levels of national borrowing in Greece

relate to Greece's social and class structure

and the form the Greek economy has assumed over the last few decades.

It has to do with the Greek state's systematic inability

to implement an effective and fair system of taxation.

(History of Greek sovereign debt)

Andreas Papandreou created the necessary welfare state

without increasing corporate and high income taxes.

He saved jobs by nationalizing loss-making private companies.

Primarily though, he saved the companies' owners.

Public deficit and sovereign debt increased dramatically.

Mitsotakis� government continued to borrow.

The Maastricht treaty imposed world markets as the only mechanism for deficit control,

prohibiting other means of money creation.

Debt skyrocketed with the highest increase rate in Greek history.

Kostas Simitis was luckier.

�Creative accounting�, the fall of European interest rates

and economic growth were on his side.

This way, he was able to conceal the bomb

that he placed on sovereign debt.

During his premiership,the percentage of debt seemed to decrease slightly.

Kostas Karamanlis decreased capital taxation by 10%.

The economic free fall accelerated

and debt exploded once more.

Most countries in a similar situation were visited by the IMF.

But none paid as dearly as Argentina

Greece's mirror image on the other side of the Atlantic.

Argentina fell into the debt trap at the same time as Greece

in 1824, with the first British loans.

But the noose tightened towards the end of the 20th century.

Argentina locked the rate of its peso against the US dollar.

This made it impossible for them, to exercise a monetary policy.

Argentina experienced its own Eurozone.

Only, instead of Berlin, they were up against Washington DC.

M. Camdessus - IMF Managing Director, 1987-2000:

At the same time, the IMF turned the country into...

yet another experimental laboratory for Neoliberalism.

(Excerpt from the documentary film The Take)

Avi Lewis - Film-maker / Journalist:

Gerard Dumenil - Economist

After Argentina's economic collapse in 2001...

the IMF and its Neoliberal theories...

became the laughing stock of economists all over the world.

But some monsters never die.

(I have 3 children and no job, please help)

Greece will pay dearl for the intervention of the IMF.

And, in some cases, she will even pay for it in advance.

Ron Paul - Republican Congressman -

Ben Bernanke Chairman of FED -

Argentina was confronted by the IMF alone.

But Greece found herself serving two masters.

Because, in Europe, Neoliberal theories were also being promoted

by the European Central Bank.

Ironically enough, in the case of Greece

the IMF was softer than the EU.

The measures applied in collaboration with the IMF, the ECB and the EU

are not only unfair and dangerous to the Greek people.

They're also doomed to fail right from the start.

They have a tragic impact on the people's quality of life

and on their daily life even.

And it's highly unlikely that they will have a positive effect

on the economy in general, and the management of national debt.

Like in Argentina, the target was to save not the economy

but rather the banks and the big enterprises.

The measures taken now are stabilization measures

to prevent Greece from proceeding to a cessation of due payments.

They are not measures which will reduce the debt.

It is more than obvious that the debt will continue to increase quickly

regardless of the measures, and, indeed, as a result of them.

The measures aim clearly to protect the lenders

to protect the banks.

Within a few months, the Greek government gave the banks

EUR 108 billion

which is almost the entire rescue package received from the IMF and the EU.

(Excerpt from the documentary film Social Genocide)

When Argentina faced a similar situation

several of those responsible were punished.

The image of presidents leaving the presidential palace in choppers

still haunts both the IMF and its collaborators.

One magical night, just like in Argentina

we'll see who gets to hop into the chopper first!

Year #1 after the IMF intervention.

Greece has entered an intensive programme of "purging" procedures, "asset utilisation"

"rationalisation measures" and "tidying up".

The delegates of the IMF, EUand ECB have taken up permanent residence in Athens

and are dictating their policy through an unconstitutional memorandum.

Dominique Strauss - Kahn IMF Managing Director -

What is Greece today?

Are we a free country? Yes.

Are we independent? No, we've been reduced to vassals.

Freedom is one thing, sovereignty quite another.

Our country's problem is that she has lost her sovereignty.

In splendid collaboration with their foreign lenders

the government has turned against the people with harsh austerity measures.

The result is poverty, failed businessed, and unemployment.

We consider the centre of Athens to be

N. Kanakis : president - Doctors of the World � Greece - facing a humanitarian crisis. All the distinctive features are there;

people who are hungry or homeless, who lack medication and healthcare.

And they just wander around the squares.

It's not much different from what we see in Third World countries.

You have to remember that we deal with the poorest of the poor.

There are people who still maintain some social security rights

but that is not enough, as a poor woman-pensioner indicated.

She said: "I buy either food or medicine. I can't afford both".

The government's measures are not simply worsening

the citizens' living conditions. They pose an immediate threat to their lives.

Panos Papanicolaou: Neurosurgeon - In all of the countries "supported" by the IMF up to now

there has been a dramatic drop in average life expectancy

It's what we usually refer to as the average lifespan.

There were countries where, after the IMF ordeal

the average lifespan fell by 5-10 years. With the cuts we are facing now

it's clear that our life expectancy will be greatly reduced.

The citizens react.

The government's response is in breach of even the basic principles of democracy

The penalisation of wearing a hood, the unjustified arrests and

the hood-wearing policemen, all border on the para-state.

This liberality with tear-gas leaves us no money for free education

Alain Badiou Philosopher: Philosopher - Crises are always solved through measures against society and against the people

which may be particularly harsh.

This is how capitalism controls the situation.

The problem of capitalism is how to get these measures accepted.

For that, violence is deployed.

In response to the "financial gale" alert

Democracy makes way for Debtocracy.

Poor people, don't eat each other. Eat the rich, they're plumper!

A crisis of capitalism causes extensive devaluation.

The value is lost through financial speculation.

Somebody has to pay for this devaluation.

However, the capitalists do not intend to pay for it.

They're not at all altruistic.

But if those who caused the crisis do not intend to pay for it

why should we pay?

In the past, dozens of countries have successfully repudiated debts

not incurred by their citizens, in accordance with provisions

of the international law, such as the concept of odious debt.

The history of odious debt [animation]

Our story starts in the 1920s, with Alexander Sack.

Sack was a minister and law specialist in Czarist Russia.

After the 1917 Revolution, he taught in universities of Europe and the USA.

In 1927, he came up with a brilliant concept:

the concept of odious debt.

In order to define a debt as odious, three prerequisites are needed.

1. The government of the country receives a loan

without the knowledge and approval of the people.

2. The loan is spent on activities not beneficial to the people.

3. The lenders know of this situation

but play possum.

Sack's proposals sound progressive, even revolutionary.

Actually, at that time, they served the interests

of a rising superpower: the United States of America.

The USA had found themselves in need of the "odious debt" concept in 1898

when they won the Spanish-American war and annexed Cuba.

Their problem was that, together with Cuba

they acquired the debt incurred by the Spanish colonial regime.

And, since Spanish colonialism had lasted four centuries

from 1492, when Columbus set foot in America, till 1898

that debt was quite heavy.

Of course, the USA had no intention of paying for the mistakes of past regimes.

They decided that Cuba's debt was odious

and simply refused to pay it.

The same had happened in Mexico a few decades earlier.

When the Republicans overthrew emperor Maximilian I

they decided that the debt he had incurred was odious.

Maximilian had borrowed huge sums at excessively high interest rates

to deal with the uprising against him.

And since he owed a lot, mainly to the people of Mexico

he was sentenced to death and sent to the firing squad.

In the late 19th-early 20th century, most instances of odious debt

concerned underdeveloped countries on the American continent.

Actually, a rising superpower was involved in all those debt repudiations:

the United States of America.

And this same superpower brought the concept of odious debt

into the 21st century.

December 2002: the White House is putting the finishing touches

to the planned invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Before the attack starts, however, American officials

are preparing for the day after Saddam Hussein's overthrowal.

The State Department knows that they will have to deal with

Iraq's huge national debt. Therefore, they are trying to prove

that this debt is odious.

A secret task-force is formed, and they propose that

the first provisional government of Iraq declare cessation of due payments

on the pretext that the Iraqi people must not pay the odious debt incurred

by the Iraqi regime. All is now ready for the attack.

�ric Toussaint: President of CADTM - In March 2003, the USA and their allies invaded Iraq.

Three weeks later, the US Secretary for the Treasury called for a summit meeting

of G8 finance ministers in Washington, and announced that Hussein's debt was odious.

He said: "Hussein's regime is dictatorial and its debt must be repudiated".

"The new government of Iraq must be free of Hussein's debt".

George W. Bush instructed former Secretary of State, James Baker

to convince the international community that Iraq's debt was odious.

And Baker claimed that Saddam Hussein wasted his people's money

on building palaces and buying arms.

Among other things, American diplomats proved that Iraq owed

billions of dollars to France and Russia, for the purchase of Exocet missiles

and fighter aircraft such as Mirage F1 and MiG.

Actually, Hussein's way was not that different

from what many Western leaders do. To the Arabs, palaces are

what the Olympic Games are to the West: a demonstration of economic

and geopolitical dominance.

The American diplomacy finally proved that Iraq's debt was odious

and the Iraqi people were not obliged to pay it.

However, Washington suddenly realised that they'd pried open a can of worms.

For the first time in the 21st century, the ultimate superpower had legitimised

the concept of odious debt. So, they chose

to sweep this case under the carpet.

The other countries said: "We'll cut 40% off Iraq's debt through the Paris Club".

"But the concept of odious debt must not be used officially"

"because other countries may claim this right as well".

"For example, the DR Congo will repudiate Mobutu's debt"

"the Philippines will refuse to pay the debt of dictator Marcos"

"and South Africa will refuse the debt of the apartheid regime".

To prevent the extension of the concept of odious debt into the 21st century

they reached an ad hoc decision on Iraq.

However, it is obvious to us that the odious debt doctrine was used.

The USA continued to help Iraq to cancel old debts.

But nobody in Washington ever wanted to hear again

the expression "odious debt".

Iraq managed to write off a big part of its debt

with the support of an empire. But another country resolved

to stand on its own two feet and stand up against the IMF

and its other big lenders. They managed to prove that their debt

was not only odious, but also illegitimate and unconstitutional.

Welcome to Ecuador.

Rafael Correa President of Ecuador - We have national commitments, more urgent than international ones.

We'll fulfill our international obligations as soon as we are able.

But our priorities are clear. Life comes first, repaying debts second.

Ecuador could have been one of the richest countries in South America.

But, from the moment that oil was discovered...

all the country knew was dictators, poverty, debt and economic hit-men.

John Perkins: Activist, former economic hit-man -

In 1982, Ecuador was visited by the IMF and a committee of wise men

representing the country's big lenders. Ecuador had been forced to borrow

more and more, in order to fulfill past obligations.

Hugo Arias: Head of Ecuador audit committee - Ecuador was constantly being looted by the countries of the North.

For example, from 1980-1990 up to 2005

almost 50% of the government budget was used to repay debts.

Namely, about 3-4 billion US dollars a year.

Only 4% was for health care.

Four billion for repaying debts, 400 million for health care.

Four billion for the debt, 800 million for education.

We were killing our own people.

The people of Ecuador protested. For a moment

things appeared to be in control when Lucio Guti�rrez took over.

Guti�rrez promised social benefits. He spoke like a socialist

but, as soon as he took office, he made a new deal with the IMF

and implemented measures of extreme austerity.

The people decided that he should leave with the same means of transport

favoured by Argentinian presidents: the chopper.

Vice-president Palacio takes over.

He has good intentions, but soon succumbs to Washington.

So the people turn to the only politician who'd resisted international pressure.

Rafael Correa.

Song: una sola vuelta - From the first round

Correa, from the first round.

Ecuador from the first round.

Hope is triumphant.

We are your united people.

We stand united.

March on, Ecuador Alliance.

March on for justice.

March on for your rights.

March on, Correa, for Ecuador.

From the first round

Correa, from the first round.

Ecuador from the first round!

Correa studied economics in Europe and the USA

and knows very well how to handle the World Bank and the IMF

as long as one has the political will.

As Minister of Finance, in 2005, Correa declared that it was unnatural

to use oil revenues in order to pay back the debt.

This was unfair to the people. He said that 80% of the revenues

should be used for health benefits, education and the creation of jobs

and only 20% should be channeled towards repayment of the debt.

The World Bank said that they wouldn't lend to Ecuador if such a law passed.

This was an obvious interference with Ecuador's internal policy.

Correa declared that he would never follow such instructions from the WB.

He chose to resign rather than succumb. This made him very popular.

The people said: "This man chose to resign from minister"

"in order to defend the dignity and the interests of the people".

Correa was finally elected in 2006. One of his first actions was

to deport the representative of the World Bank

and ask the IMF delegation to leave the Central Bank's premises.

Officials of the IMF such as Bob Traa, who later came to Greece

had already been dubbed "unwanted" by the people of Ecuador.

Those callous, dishonest bureaucrats have to respect our country.

This is why we deported the WB delegate. We maintain the right to restore

the damage done to our country and declare our debt to the WB illegitimate.

Six months later, Correa went a step further.

He fulfilled the demand of social organisations

for an Audit Committee.

I was one of the people Correa chose for the Committee.

18 individuals and 4 national organisations participated.

We were to examine all debt contracts, from 1956 to 2006.

We worked for 14 months. We examined the bond debt

the debts to the IMF, the World Bank and other international organisations.

We examined the debt to countries such as France, Japan and Germany.

Finally, we examined Ecuador's internal national debt.

The battle to access the data was tremendous.

In the Ministry of Finance, our associate Alejandro Olmos Jr

and myself, were declared "personae non gratae".

The officials in the Ministry of Finance wrote to the Minister

to complain and denounce both mine and Olmos' actions

claiming that we were inflicting harm on the Ministry's employees.

We laughed it off, but you imagine how difficult it was

after we'd been accused of being the "bad guys"

in that procedure.

Despite the setbacks, the Committee managed to complete its work

and discovered that a big part of the debt was illegitimate.

They acknowledged their findings to the state, who told the people.

The work of the Committee was made public, and this is very important.

The people of Ecuador now knew why the debt contracts of past regimes

especially those of the year 2000, were illegitimate.

Song: "Dale Correa Rafael" - March on, Rafael Correa!

Our homeland is marching against

the decadent Congress

and the bureaucratic dictatorship

of the old politicians.

Power belongs to the people. Your brother tells you so.

The people of Ecuador want a new constitution.

March on, Correa.

Correa, strike against the "bosses" who devastated our homeland.

March on, Correa.

March on, Rafael Correa.

Based on the findings of the Committee, the government proved that

the debt was illegitimate and declared cessation of payments

for 70% of Ecuador's debt in bonds.

Those in possession of Ecuador's debt sold bonds at 20% of their value.

The government started to buy them secretly.

They gave 800 million dollars and bought off 3 billion dollars of debt.

This significant reduction allowed an improvement in living conditions.

Furthermore, they rid themselves of the interest they would have had to pay till 2012 or 2030.

They saved at least 7 billion dollars, which was great for the country.

This allowed the government to increase expenditure on health, education

the creation of new jobs, and improvement in infrastructure.

In Greece, historians, economists and political analysts

use up tons of ink daily to tell us how to handle our national debt.

Yet, there is one question very few pose.

Do the Greek people really owe as much as their creditors claim?

The debt incurred by Greece recently bears evidence of illegitimacy.

For example, the authorities received "gifts" from companies such as Siemens

who, together with Siemens Hellas, bribed ministers and officials

for at least a decade, in order to gain contracts.

In this case, we have evidence of illegality and illegitimacy.

So, this debt should be examined in court. To me, this is evident.

Greek justice proved inadequate in the Siemens case.

And it was too slow in other cases of deals

made behind the people's back, which have increased the debt.

With the infamous swaps of 2001, the government mortgaged the future

to present a false prosperous present. They made the Greek debt look lower

by changing a loan from JPY to EUR, using outdated exchange rates.

They were assisted in this by Goldman Sachs, who made

millions out of this deal.

Mark Kirk: US Senator -

The trick worked for many years. And the Greek political elite

showed they could reward their allies amply. They re-hired

Goldman Sachs as consultant and paid them with the people's money.

Jean Quatremer: Journalist, Liberation - Goldman Sachs consulted and attacked the Greek government simultaneously.

The scandal was revealed in 2010. A few days earlier

a former employee of Goldman Sachs

had been assigned leader of the Greek Public Debt Management Agency.

Hiring an employee of Goldman Sachs is like hiring a criminal.

It's the same as hiring a bank robber to guard your house.

You think that he knows how robbers think, so he'll be a better guard.

But there's great danger that one day he'll rob you and vanish.

Who can guarantee to me that this former Goldman Sachs man

will handle Greek affairs in the best possible way?

Several countries blame Greece for her transactions with Goldman Sachs.

Only these are the same countries who exploit their liaisons

with Greek governments, to sell weapons to Greece

at a good price.

Sahra Wagenknecht: Deputy Chairperson, Die Linke - When, one year ago, Germany was negotiating to support Greece

one of the main terms was that Greece would continue to import German arms.

Greece should cut down on pensions and social benefits, not on arms' imports.

This is indicative of the interests involved. Germany protects

the interests of military equipment manufacturers, and its export industry.

Those people want to continue trading despite the crisis.

Daniel Cohn-Bendit : president, European Greens-European Free Alliance - We're hypocrites! Last month, France sold 6 frigates to Greece for 2.5 billion.

Also, helicopters worth 400 million and Rafale aircraft at 100 million each.

I don't know if we sold 10, 20, or 30. The total cost is almost 3 billion.

Germany sold 6 submarines to Greece, worth 1 billion.

We're such hypocrites! We give them money so they can buy our arms.

Before the hypocrisy of Europe, criminal back-downs come

hand-in-hand with criminal decisions, always for "Greece's own good"

or to support a new Greek expansionism that will lead to economic devastation.

Giorgos Voulgarakis Minister of Public Order, 2004-2006

�ric Toussaint: President of CADTMT - here were huge expenses and the cost now burdens the people.

The loans for the Olympic Games were paid with tax-payers' money.

It's only natural that the people demand to know why the budget exploded

and where that money went.

The Olympic Games and the corrupt transactions with Siemens or Goldman Sachs

are but a small fraction of the shady deals made at the people's expense.

However, there are more important matters which concern

not only Greece, but all peripheral European countries.

Costas Lapavitsas: Professor of Economics - Have all the rules which govern the issuing of bonds been followed?

Also, are there any questions of legitimacy

about the banks who played the main role for issuing bonds

either in the primary or the secondary market?

Which banks took part? How were they reimbursed?

Under what terms and conditions did they participate?

Sahra Wagenknecht: Deputy Chairperson, Die Linke - Part of the national debts incurred in Eurozone countries is illegitimate

because they resulted from policies against the people�s interests .

So these debts must not be paid by the people.

Ecuador demonstrated how all those illegitimate or odious contracts

can come to light through

an Audit Committee.

Why don't they tell us what kind of debt this is?

How much is it? How was it incurred?

To whom do we owe money?

This is why an audit is necessary. An audit will define

exactly what this debt is about. We have to know and denounce

all the lies told by the government and the corporations

who seize the Greek people's money, and all those who get amply paid

to parrot and praise the government.

But who's going to set up the Audit Committee?

And most of all, how can we make sure that it won't be

yet another parliament committee, consisting of the same people

that got us into this situation?

The Audit Committee's members should not be specialists. It's not necessary.

Because if the government forms a committee of specialists

even if they are called from abroad, even if ordinary citizens are included

the committee may prove to be the government's mouthpiece.

Only the people have the authority and the right to request an audit

because they suffer the consequences. All Greeks must become involved.

All social organisations must protest and demand an audit.

The Greek political parties ND and PASOK, who benefited from the creation of debt

are very negative towards an audit, as their responsibility will be revealed.

People, organisations, unions, judges, intellectuals, artists - everybody must act.

They must express their views and exert pressure on political authority.

In March 2011, a group of people from different backgrounds

took the initiative to demand the formation

of an Audit Committee in Greece.

Academics, writers, artists, union representatives from all over the world

supported this initiative willingly.

The Audit Committee will find which parts of the debt

are odious or illegitimate

and will prove that, as provided by Greek and International Law

the Greek people are not obliged to pay such debt.

However, the decision is basically political, not financial.

Even if the debt was legitimate, no government has the right

to kill its people in order to satisfy its lenders.

Even if the entire Greek national debt of 350 billion proves legitimate

which is clearly not going to be the case, Greece can never pay back.

It will have to be cancelled.

If honouring the debt and making it sustainable involves

dismantling health care, dismantling education

dismantling the transport system, then the debt is socially unsustainable.

Nobody is obliged to pay this debt

since it was accrued because of corruption in the financial markets.

It's immoral to pay an immoral debt.

The formation of an Audit Committee, is ultimately

just a valuable weapon in a broader battle.

This battle will follow the traditional rules by which

battles have been fought for centuries.

Without this battle, even if we repudiate the debt repeatedly

it will always rise from its ashes.

This means that a field for ideological, political

and class struggle will form. The debt is a result of class struggle.

Don't hesitate to stand up for your rights against the EU and the Greek government.

Respect is gained through struggle, not by obeying one's creditors.

Look at Tunisia and Egypt.

Only when the people take action can the situation really change.

We have to shake off submissiveness, liberate ourselves from the IMF

liberate ourselves from the ECB, and liberate ourselves from the EU

because all three mean the economic slavery of Greece.

Giorgos Papandreou - Now is the crucial moment.

Let's go!

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