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♪♪
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Reagan: America is back,
standing tall,
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looking to the eighties with
courage, confidence, and hope.
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Jackson: We are not going to be
put back into slavery
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by our own people, who are
selling dope to destroy us.
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Announcer: On September 15th,
Nike created
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a revolutionary
new basketball shoe.
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On October 18th, the NBA
threw them out of the game.
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Man: Government is not
the solution to our problem.
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Government is the problem.
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Man #2:
Air Jordan, Air Jordan.
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Man #3: Air Jordan,
Air Jordan, Air Jordan.
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This is something
you can buy.
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♪♪
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Man #4: Michael!
Michael, you stuck it baby!
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Bush: Read my lips.
No new taxes.
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♪♪
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Woman: People waited in line
all night long
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to get the new Air Jordan
basketball shoes.
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They literally broke a door
off the hinges.
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Several people
were trampled,
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while others crawled over them
to get inside.
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The shoes cost
about $180.
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Man: That's a lot of money to
spend on shoes though, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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You know it's Michael Jordan,
that's what he do.
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All they want
is that shoe.
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My son, he just got
to have them.
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Man:
Thank you, God bless you,
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and God bless
the United States of America.
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Letterman: This last season,
my next guest led his team,
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the Chicago Bulls,
into the NBA playoffs,
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scoring a record of an amazing
63 points in a single game.
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He is only 23 years of age.
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Please welcome
Michael Jordan, folks.
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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Hi, Michael.
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Nice to see you.
How are you?
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Come on over.
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My, oh my.
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I got one thing
to say.
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Yeah? What's that?
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I see Adidas shoes.
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Yeah.
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Why?
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Well, now we can't talk about
this, because the last time
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we started talking about shoes,
there was a huge deal,
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and they had to run up
to the legal department
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and wake up
the attorneys.
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Now, I know you've got a huge
contract with the company.
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Put your feet down.
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[ Laughter ]
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Now, how much do you --
no stop that.
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Or they won't let
any of this on.
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Okay.
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Now, how much do you get paid
just to wear these shoes?
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A lot.
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Well, Nike started as
a running company.
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They started in
the running business.
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And they were successful
in the running business.
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They wanted to grow,
and branch out.
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They got into
other sports.
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Then, in 1984,
they weren't doing very well.
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Dixon: In the early eighties,
that was when they slipped
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to number two in America,
to Reebok.
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And at that time,
Knight asked the group
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"Do you think we should
sell now?"
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And they all said "No.
we can figure a way out of it."
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Nike was considered to be
kind of like a stepchild
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in the shoe game,
at that point.
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It was Converse.
It was Adidas.
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Other brands were much more
solidly entrenched than Nike.
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Nike was just this
little company that could,
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that was trying to fight for
a piece of the market share.
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Everybody in the business
knew that the main consumer
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for athletic shoes
is 16-year-old boys.
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So, the biggest sport to get to
the masses is basketball.
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Man: So, Nike knew that they
needed to be in basketball,
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but nobody really thought
of Nike as a basketball brand,
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particularly the kid.
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The kid, as they called him,
was the customer
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who would buy
basketball shoes.
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And a lot of them
were inner city kids.
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So, Rob Strasser decided
what we needed was an icon.
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We needed to find ourselves
a basketball player
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that kids wanted to be.
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♪ Like Michael.
Fight to be like Michael. ♪
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♪ I want to be,
I want to be like Michael. ♪
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♪ Like Michael.
If I could be like Mike ♪
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You know the reality is that
black people,
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since the beginning of time,
have always made things cool.
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Jazz, rock 'n' roll.
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I mean, you pick
literally anything,
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from a cultural standpoint,
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and we have always been
the arbitrators of cool.
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And it was really no different
with sneakers.
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Williams:
Marketing the Jordan brand
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to the African American
community
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has been the core of
the success of the Jordan brand.
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And so, in order for Jordan
to be as successful
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as they have been,
they had to start with
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the African American market.
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And they had to take that, and
grow it to this massive brand
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that it is today.
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Telander: In the 1980s,
the African American community
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was struggling
to try to find a leader,
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try to find something
to believe in.
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You could say it was about race,
or skin color, or ethnicity,
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but it was mostly,
as always, about poverty.
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About economic disparity,
and about hope,
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and about a chance
to move ahead,
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to actually become part of the
alleged great American ladder,
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where you can start anywhere,
and you can make it to the top.
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That great myth that we believe
in, here in this country.
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Hill: The 1980s was
a volatile time in this country.
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You know, growing up
in Detroit, for us,
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I mean, we were no different
than New York,
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Chicago,
where the influx of drugs
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had, overnight, kind of changed
a lot of middle class,
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working class
neighborhoods.
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It was a depressing time,
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because a lot of what
those baby boomers
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that were there
and fought through civil rights
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in the sixties and seventies,
they were kind of seeing
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the progress that they made
slip away.
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[ Crowd chanting
"Four more years!" ]
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Lazenby: Well, you know,
American society
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was experiencing
the Reagan years.
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And it was the early birth
of the conservative movement
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as we know it today,
with neo-conservatives.
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Definitely, Ronald Reagan
had lit the fires
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for conservative thought.
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Reagan: The present recession
is bottoming out
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without resorting
to quick fixes.
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There won't be a sudden boom,
or upsurge,
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but slowly and surely,
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we'll have a sound
and lasting recovery,
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and an end
to deficit spending.
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Garcia: Generally, when you have
Republican leadership,
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it shifts and leans towards
empowering corporate America,
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privatization
of institutions.
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There's less funding
for community programs.
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You know,
there was a big divide,
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and a gap in the support
for the youth.
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Kent: Well, what was going on
in the eighties,
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it was communities
within communities
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building upon themselves,
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and trying to take care
of themselves.
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And it kind of started
fragmenting because of crack.
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And because crack was
so devastating,
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it devastated the neighborhoods
that we lived in.
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Man:
By the hundreds, Bronx residents
made themselves heard today
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to call for more action
against the crack epidemic --
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an epidemic measured
in violence,
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broken homes,
and burnt-out youngsters.
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Well, the first thing
that you learn about sport
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is that sport
is a microcosm society.
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And because this was
happening in society,
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it's always gonna
seep into sport.
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No different than,
you know, what's happening
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with the killing
of unarmed black men
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has seeped into the NFL
with the Anthem protest.
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And when you talk about
the tragic deaths of athletes
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like Len Bias,
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which I think really
changed everything.
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By all intents and purposes
people considered him
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the next Michael Jordan.
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When he collapsed,
and passed away,
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I think it really frightened
a lot of people.
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Len Bias was an
all-American basketball star,
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the University of Maryland's
leading scorer.
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And after four years of college,
he was drafted this week
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by the champion
Boston Celtics.
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Announcer:
The world champion Celtics use
their first round draft choice
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to pick Bias to play for them
after his graduation.
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This morning, Len Bias was dead
of cardio respiratory arrest.
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No one knows why yet.
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There are reports
that traces of cocaine
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were found
in Bias' system.
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Hill:
The death of Len Bias,
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it not only was a sports story
it was an American story
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that wind up having
a deep impact
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on how people viewed the drug
problem in this country.
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And so, this was a death
that affected policy,
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and that led to
the mandatory minimums
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that wound up
being kind of the gateway
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to the huge explosion
in mass incarceration.
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So, it wasn't just about
this particular athlete
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dying of
a drug overdose.
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This was about how this death
shaped American policy
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when it came to
criminal justice.
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That was coming out
of the 1970s.
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Cocaine was a big party drug
in the NBA itself.
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In 1984, David Stern
would become commissioner,
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and they would begin
all of the drug policy
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that eventually allowed the NBA
to raise its profile.
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But it took a while for that
to really gain traction.
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♪ We're the LA Lakers,
and we're here to say ♪
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♪ that the drugs
are killing everything ♪
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♪ Cocaine and crack,
it's all got to go ♪
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♪ We've got to learn
to just say "no" ♪
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♪ I'm Kareem,
the captain of the team ♪
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♪ I don't need drugs,
I've got a higher thing ♪
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♪ My sky hook makes the team
look good. ♪
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♪ But there's a hook we got
to shape from the neighborhood ♪
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Telander:
In the eighties, basketball was
starting, for the first time,
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particularly at
the highest levels,
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to be dominated
by black athletes.
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And it hadn't been that way
because of racism
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and segregation.
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You know, there had always been
the greats, the Wrens,
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and the Harlem Globe Trotters.
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But people said "That
doesn't really count."
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Announcer: The Globe Trotters
have made basketball
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into something more like
a ballet than a sport.
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Supremely confident,
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their choreography
of sparkling precision
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that leaves both spectators
and opponents mystified.
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Telander: The Chicago Bulls were
a reflection of this new time.
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Many of the players were black,
many of the stars were,
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and the crowd
was still white.
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You could sense, maybe,
if not a tension,
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but not a real
kind of community feeling
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between the basketball team
and the surrounding area.
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Lazenby: I remember going
to Chicago Stadium,
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which was located
in blighted neighborhoods,
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and there was a real sense
of cultural clash there.
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I think, until Jordan
came,
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Chicago wasn't really
a destination for anybody.
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They just didn't have that
transcendent sports team
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to make things change.
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Lazenby: The Chicago Bulls were
a relatively young franchise
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in the early 1980s.
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They'd only really gotten
started in 1966/67.
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But they were a dismal franchise
in deep financial trouble.
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On the outside, the Bulls
were just a sad franchise.
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But at the same time, the city
wasn't expecting much from them.
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There was always a sense
of the Bulls doing decent --
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never big, decent.
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Bengtson: You just didn't care.
Like, they didn't matter.
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They were a team
that came into town,
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and they played,
and no one cared.
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Announcer: Chicago hasn't scored
in the last two minutes.
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There was a reason that they got
to draft Michael Jordan third.
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I mean,
Houston took Hakeem.
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The Portland Trailblazers
took Sam Bowie.
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Yeah, he went third.
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Bengtson:
They were awful.
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You obviously don't get the
number-three pick in the draft
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unless you're terrible.
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And they were
pretty terrible.
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Lazenby: Michael Jordan
signing with the Bulls,
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the fact that he was
the third player taken,
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and the Bulls had that
third choice, was just amazing.
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The Chicago Bulls
pick Michael Jordan.
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Lazenby: People thought, "Well,
you know, I saw this guy play
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in college
for North Carolina.
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He was pretty exciting."
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Jackson: He was the two-time
Player of the Year
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after his freshman year.
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But if you really followed
the game, he still wasn't --
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to a lot of people, wasn't
the best player in the ACC.
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You know, Len Bias was
the best player in the ACC.
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That kind of shifted during that
summer with USA basketball.
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You know, we kind of knew
the dude was nice.
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But it was after the draft
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when we find out
how nice he really was.
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We didn't know he had
the ability to score like that.
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Announcer:
Jordan gets Sims off his feet,
and shoots right over him.
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There's Jordan.
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14 for Michael Jordan.
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Then, Fleming from Georgia,
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nice dump pass by Alford
to the acrobatic Michael Jordan.
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And some people were like,
"Oh, my God.
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We just got, I think,
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a great,
great basketball player."
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But nobody knew.
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The Americans
were so much better
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than everybody else in 1984
that it was almost absurd
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to make any comparisons
about anything.
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Announcer: Jordan again.
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Announcer #2:
He's beautiful.
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And Nike had
identified him.
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Sonny Vaccaro, who was
an executive at Nike,
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not even a
high-level executive.
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But he managed a lot
of Nike's basketball business.
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He got the sense, in watching
Jordan as freshman
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at the Final Four
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that Jordan was going to be
this cross-over person.
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And on Sonny Vaccaro's hunch,
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they were already negotiating
his contract with Nike.
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You know, Sonny is the driving
force who convinced them.
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Like, "Look. Don't spread
everything out.
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you know, "Trust me,
this one guy --
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this Michael Jordan
coming out of North Carolina --
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is gonna be the guy."
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Announcer:
Michael Jordan.
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Everything
seems to be
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like a highlight film
when he plays.
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Man: Well, Sonny Vaccaro
came to Nike
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basically through
the college ranks.
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And he had a tournament
called "The Dapper Dan,"
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that was held
in Pittsburgh,
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that Nike had wanted
to get involved with,
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because that was where top
high school kids went to play.
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So, if you really wanted to know
who the next basketball player
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was gonna be,
you went to Sonny Vaccaro.
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You know, he was the one
who convinced them,
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"if you pay a college coach
X amount,
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they'll wear your shoes.
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Give me this budget,
and I'll go get you
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the best college coaches."
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The deal was this coach,
you sign the coach,
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his team wears Nike shoes.
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Sonny really knew how to spot
the young basketball stars.
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To get them when they're
in high school,
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to get them in the Nike shoes,
to get them used to them,
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so when they turned pro,
they would go with Nike.
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Garcia:
It was brilliant.
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Sonny Vaccaro at Nike,
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like, he knew what he
was doing, you know?
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It was like "Alright, well,
we can't compete with y'all
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up there, but we're gonna
kill y'all over here.
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And all these cats
that are here
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are gonna be those
next Julius Erving,
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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
and Tiny Archibald."
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Lazenby:
The coaches were stunned.
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They didn't think
it was legal.
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Is this free money?
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And sales were rising
accordingly
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with all this
new exposure.
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No question that
Nike Basketball,
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including Air Jordan,
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and including
the rest of it,
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would not be where it is
without Sonny Vaccaro.
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Phil Knight may not
want to admit it.
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Sonny Vaccaro built it.
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He and Rob Strasser together
built what is today
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known as Nike Basketball.
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Vaccaro: You know, I'm gonna
give you a surprise.
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I'm gonna show you
the one priceless thing
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that Michael Jordan
gave to me.
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He was playing the
Los Angeles Lakers
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the year that
they won the championship.
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And Howard White called me,
and says,
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"Michael left you
a pair of shoes."
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And what do I get?
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This is the famous shoe
when he hurt his toe
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against the Lakers, playing
for the world championship,
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that he wore that night.
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And he gave them to me.
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In my opinion, the most
priceless Jordan shoes,
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because we know there's only one
pair of the ones
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he wore in that game.
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Announcer: And the Bulls do not
have any timeouts remaining.
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Craig Hodges, a three point
specialist, has checked in.
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Here's Jordan
on the pull up.
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Yes!
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And the game is tied at 92
with 3:04 seconds remaining.
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Alright, Marv, one thing
is gonna bother the Bulls.
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Just during that last play,
Michael Jordan hurt
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the tip of his big toe.
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They've taken it out,
and taken a look at it,
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and it's gonna be painful,
but he'll try to go with it.
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Vaccaro: In the mid 1980s --
82, 83 I guess,
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Nike was gonna finally sign
a pro player
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that was gonna be
a signature shoe --
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which was the new term
at that time.
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And it was a very good
draft class at 1984,
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very good draft class.
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And it came down to
selecting somebody.
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So, they asked me,
"What do I do?"
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And I just said,
"Give it to the kid."
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If you're gonna name a shoe
after a high flier,
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how in the hell can you give it
two or three?
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There's only one chief.
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The famous phrase was,
"Will you bet your job?"
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I said,
"Give it all to Jordan.
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He has what you want."
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Announcer: Gordie to Jordan.
Breaks out on him.
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Good coverage, defensively.
He still hit it.
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Oh, what presence of mind.
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Announcer #2: It's amazing what
the freshman can do.
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Lazenby:
Nike's executives decided
to plow their entire budget
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into this young
Michael Jordan,
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who had never played
an NBA game.
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Knight: And we didn't even know
who Jordan was.
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He played for North Carolina,
which was a Dean Smith school.
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Dean Smith was
a Converse guy.
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So, we assumed all his guys
were gonna go to Converse.
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Well, Sonny convinced us
that we could get this guy.
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And so, he set about
to go get him.
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At one point, they wanted to
bring Michael out to Beaverton,
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sort of like
college recruit.
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They wanted to have a campus
visit -- except for one thing.
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Michael didn't
want to go.
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He said, "David,
I have no interest in Nike.
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I don't know anything
about Nike.
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If you want to go see Nike,
like you go."
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I said, "Well, I don't need
to see Nike.
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But you can't make an
intelligent informed decision
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until you see the campus,
and see what they have to offer,
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and see what the people
are like,
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and what the product
is like."
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He turned me down.
So, I went to his parents.
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I said, "Look,
it's the very first thing ever
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I'm asking him to do
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since he picked me
to work with him.
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You've got to help me.
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We can't work together if he's
not gonna at least visit."
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They said, "David, don't worry.
He'll be on the plane."
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Knight:
The brand that he really wanted
to sign with was Adidas.
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He had worn Adidas all through
college, except in the games,
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'cause he had to wear
Converse in the games.
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The problem was, Adidas never
asked him to come to Germany
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for a presentation,
or anything.
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Years later, when I went
to Adidas, I asked them,
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I said, "Why on earth
didn't you sign Michael Jordan?"
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They said
they had no idea
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who he was,
or what they'd do with him.
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If he wanted shoes,
they'd be more than happy
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to give him shoes.
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But they weren't gonna
pay him any money.
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We went to all
the companies,
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and instead of making
a proposal,
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I basically said to them,
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"We're going to let you meet
with Michael, and explain,
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if he picked you,
what can you do for him?"
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Which is a really different
kind of a concept.
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Instead of asking what
the player can do
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for the company,
you know,
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we ask what the company
can do for the player.
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And truthfully,
most of the companies
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weren't prepared
for that.
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Converse, at the time, they were
the official shoe of the NBA.
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And their pitch to him was
"We're going to treat you
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just like everybody else."
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Which they thought
was a great pitch
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because they had
so many great players.
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I was looking for something
more creative, and unique.
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So, in terms of Nike,
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Sonny said to me, like,
"What's important to you?"
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And I said to him, "I know this
is gonna sound really crazy,
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but I want you to treat him
like he's a tennis player.
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I want him to have his own line
of shoes and clothes.
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I want to have commercials.
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I want you to market him
like he's playing
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an individual sport."
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People thought that wouldn't
work in team sports.
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And we set out to prove
that it would work.
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Prior to Jordan,
the endorsement business --
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particularly the basketball
endorsement business --
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was pretty much
team-orientated.
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Converse had Julius Erving,
Magic Johnson, Larry Bird.
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All three of those guys
wore the same shoe.
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They wore
Converse shoes.
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Basketball shoes in America
were sort of a closed business.
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Converse, which had
the Chuck Taylors,
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the canvas and rubber shoes,
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they'd had the business
for so long.
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There were no great
endorsement deals.
470
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,800
Converse simply gave the Celtics
and other NBA teams --
471
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,760
a lot of NBA teams
had to pay for their shoes,
472
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,600
but they simply gave them,
473
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,520
so that they would have
shoes to wear,
474
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,160
and fans would see them,
and magazines
475
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,840
would take
their photographs.
476
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,920
And it was
a nice little business,
477
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,040
but it wasn't a
big-money business.
478
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,680
Stern: Converse had
all of our players,
479
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,920
but they were not
too keen on marketing.
480
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,400
And then, when Michael
came along,
481
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,480
Nike understood that this was
482
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,880
an opportunity
to use his connection
483
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,880
to the league, and his prowess
as a basketball player,
484
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,600
as a stepping stone
to grow the industry.
485
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,280
♪♪
486
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,040
There are obviously NBA players
who had shoe contracts.
487
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,880
But that was all
relatively restrained.
488
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,120
You know, a lot of them
were for $9,000 or $10,000.
489
00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,800
Kareem was probably getting
in the neighborhood
490
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,640
of $100,000 a year.
491
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,000
Hill:
It wasn't seen as something
where athletes were necessarily
492
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,120
shaping culture
the way shoes shape culture now.
493
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,720
And so, this idea that
there was gonna be
494
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,200
this whole marketplace
of athletes pedaling shoes
495
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,280
was just kind of
unheard of,
496
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,360
and to some degree,
considered to be ridiculous.
497
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:52,800
Pre-Jordan it was, you know,
"Here's our shoe.
498
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,880
You're endorsing it.
We'll pay you to do that."
499
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,400
And that's basically
where it ends.
500
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,920
They would be
in commercials.
501
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,600
They would maybe get
a shoe in their color.
502
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,080
But it was
nothing special.
503
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,640
It's reinforced
for me.
504
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,960
And me.
505
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,760
Hey, maybe it was made
for both of us.
506
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,400
Must be magic.
507
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,640
Now that's who this shoe
was made for.
508
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,720
[ All laugh ]
509
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,960
Announcer:
The Converse Star Tech, with
the unique uni-saddle design.
510
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,080
You had Larry Bird and
Magic Johnson with Converse.
511
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,520
You had Dr. J
with Converse.
512
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,800
I mean, Dr. J
was the first superstar.
513
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,280
♪ Hey, hey, Dr. J ♪
514
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,640
He was the first elevation
of the sneaker game,
515
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,480
wearing Dr. J Converses.
516
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,240
♪ Are you a member
of the human race ♪
517
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,520
♪ Hey, Dr. J, are you
wearing magic shoes? ♪
518
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,480
Announcer:
He's wearing Converse,
the shoes of the stars.
519
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,160
Kent: But if you really
want to look at it,
520
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,080
the guy who changed
the game was Clyde,
521
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,560
because he was the first
coolest basketball player.
522
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,920
He was the guy
you wanted to be like.
523
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,000
He was the guy
you wanted to dress like.
524
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,120
♪♪
525
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,600
When you saw him
you saw the mink coats,
526
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,040
you saw the Rolls-Royces,
527
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,800
he looked like
the hustlers.
528
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,600
He looked like
a superhero.
529
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,080
And then, he has his name in
gold on the side of a sneaker.
530
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,600
So, everything else after that
was a byproduct of him
531
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,720
being the coolest first.
532
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,080
But it's like the player
had to be cool, as well.
533
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,560
Like, was Magic Johnson cool?
534
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,760
Not really.
535
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,200
Was Larry Bird cool?
536
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,200
Was Abdul-Jabbar cool?
537
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,520
Not really.
538
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,920
But then, Michael Jordan
is semi-cool.
539
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:46,960
But then, his sneaker becomes a
character, and then that's cool.
540
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,400
So, he reluctantly agreed.
541
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,760
Knight:
He comes to Oregon.
542
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,560
And then, we started showing him
the things
543
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,040
that we wanted to do
with him,
544
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,920
including making a red,
white, and black shoe.
545
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,400
And he said, "So, you want me
to play in this?"
546
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,800
We said "Yeah. That's the idea.
You play in the game,
547
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,640
because they see you playing
the game, they buy the shoe."
548
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,880
We played a tape using
the Pointer Sisters song "Jump."
549
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,720
with a highlight reel
of him,
550
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,560
And at the end,
we showed the wings
551
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,640
and the Jordan trademark.
552
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,800
But mostly, what we had was,
we had a program.
553
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,320
We were gonna make
Michael Jordan
554
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,120
a marketing superstar.
555
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:27,400
♪♪
556
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,600
He was impressed with
the boldness of the idea.
557
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,680
And we went to dinner that night
with his parents.
558
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,720
And at the end of the dinner,
his mother leaned over and said,
559
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,960
"Don't worry about it
Michael will be wearing Nike."
560
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,680
So, the deal was
a five-year deal.
561
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,760
Michael got a certain amount
of guaranteed money
562
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,480
over a five-year period.
563
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,160
On top of that,
he got a very large annuity
564
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,480
that would start
paying him
565
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,960
after he retired
from basketball --
566
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,680
over $1 million
a year.
567
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,040
And he obviously got royalties
on the shoe.
568
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,880
And it was a deal that,
actually,
569
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,120
I believe, that we proposed
to Michael,
570
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:01,760
that they didn't
propose to us.
571
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,800
We proposed to Michael
to sort of take the price down,
572
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,320
how much cash
we'd actually have to put out.
573
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,760
Falk: I asked Nike what
their expectations were.
574
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,280
And their expectations were,
in the five-year deal,
575
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,720
by the end of year three,
they'd hope to sell $3 million
576
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,600
worth of shoes
heading into year four.
577
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,000
That was their expectation.
578
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,520
And they sold $126 million
the first year.
579
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,120
Where I think we made a mistake
is, we didn't put a cap on it,
580
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:28,840
and we didn't say "Okay, after
so many thousands of pairs,
581
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,160
the royalty rate
goes down."
582
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,280
The thinking was, "Look, if he
sold that many shoes, great."
583
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,040
As it turned out,
that's what happened.
584
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,440
They sold so many shoes they
didn't know what to do with it,
585
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,760
and Michael made
a lot of money.
586
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:49,800
Falk: By the end of year three,
they'd hope to sell $3 million
587
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,640
worth of shoes
heading into year four.
588
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,040
That was their expectation.
589
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,600
And they sold $126 million
the first year.
590
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,200
Where I think we made a mistake
is, we didn't put a cap on it,
591
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,960
and we didn't say "Okay, after
so many thousands of pairs,
592
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,200
the royalty rate
goes down."
593
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,280
The thinking was, "Look, if he
sold that many shoes, great."
594
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,040
As it turned out,
that's what happened.
595
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,360
They sold so many shoes they
didn't know what to do with it,
596
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,440
and Michael made
a lot of money.
597
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,000
Falk:
Now, if I would have known that,
I probably would have asked them
598
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,000
to pay him a dollar a year
and 50/50 on the royalties.
599
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,240
Now, had we done that,
600
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,840
maybe they wouldn't have
pushed the line.
601
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,960
The most important aspect
of his deal
602
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,240
wasn't the money
or the royalties.
603
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,120
I forced them to spend
$1 million.
604
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,800
in the first six months
to promote him.
605
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,280
I think we agreed
that we would pay him
606
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,200
close to $1 million,
607
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,480
and that we would put close to
$1 million into marketing.
608
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,480
And then,
the fun stuff started.
609
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,680
And the fun stuff was, "How are
we gonna market this guy?"
610
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,880
We all talked about how he used
to soar in the air.
611
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,600
David Falk, to his credit, said
"I've got a name for this thing.
612
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,240
it should be called
'Air Jordan.'"
613
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,120
Rob immediately
wants to use the name.
614
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,120
I said,
"Well, why don't we think
about it for a little while.
615
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,160
There's an airline
that's called "Air Jordan.'"
616
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,720
But no, Rob was going
with Air Jordan.
617
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,840
Michael always tells me
it's the first
618
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,000
and the last great idea
I ever had.
619
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,680
After that, I went and saw him
in Washington D.C.
620
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,640
In that conversation, he told me
that he didn't want to wear
621
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,320
red, white, and black.
622
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,400
And when I asked him, I said,
"Well, what's the reason?"
623
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,320
He said, "They're
the devil's colors."
624
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,400
I said, "Well, they're
the Chicago Bull's colors,
625
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,960
so you better go talk to the guy
that owns the Chicago Bulls.
626
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,480
'cause I can't
change them."
627
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,360
I mean he wanted to wear
Carolina blue,
628
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,640
which was the color
of his school.
629
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,000
And I said,
"We'll make you a pair,
630
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,360
you can wear them
on Saturdays.
631
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,160
But you're in red,
white, and black.
632
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,640
You know, that's just the way
it's got to be."
633
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,560
Jackson: The ideology behind
doing this came a long time
634
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,480
before the shoe
was first launched.
635
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,960
You know, these conversations
with Jordan
636
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,200
getting his own shoe
came his rookie year.
637
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,160
But they waited before
they actually launched it.
638
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800
And the lead up to that
was beautiful,
639
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800
because what they did is
put the shoes on Jordan,
640
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,640
so you could see
him playing.
641
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Bengtson:
You know, the build-up of
that shoe before it released
642
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920
at retail
was five or six months long,
643
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,040
which was fairly unheard of
back then.
644
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,600
And I think the idea of
a new shoe model
645
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,640
being such a big deal,
646
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,880
and being such a big deal
to people other than athletes,
647
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,720
was something
really different.
648
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Knight: The first time
he wore the shoes,
649
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,680
he wore them in New York
650
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,200
at an exhibition game --
a pre-season game.
651
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,000
They're out doing
their warm-up drills,
652
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,640
and all of a sudden, there's
a bunch of kids start gathering.
653
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,960
And they're all pointing
at his shoes.
654
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,600
David Falk happens to be
sitting in the arena,
655
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,560
and he wants to know
what all this is about.
656
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,200
"What's going on here?"
657
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,120
And they tell him, "Oh, Jordan's
got on these crazy shoes."
658
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
And sure enough,
the shoes get banned.
659
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,440
At that time, David Stern,
who was head of the NBA,
660
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,080
had a rule
that only white footwear
661
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,720
was allowed on the court.
662
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,280
Stern saw these shoes, and said,
"That's against the rules.
663
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,040
You can't do it."
664
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,360
Bengtson: The original
Air Jordan was just a project
665
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,320
that was kind of unprecedented
in the way Nike worked.
666
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,800
You know, they signed Jordan
that summer, and wanted to get
667
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,360
a signature shoe on his foot
in that first season,
668
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,280
which really compressed
the amount of time
669
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000
they had to get
this shoe done.
670
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,120
So, in the meantime,
he had to wear something else.
671
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,360
and what he ended up wearing
was the Nike Air Ship.
672
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,720
And that was the shoe
673
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,200
that originally drew
the ire of the NBA,
674
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,080
and basically
banning the shoe.
675
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,760
Stern:
We told Michael and Nike that,
whatever shoe he was wearing
676
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,560
didn't conform,
so would they please change it.
677
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,680
And Rob said, "So, what are
you gonna do, fine him?"
678
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,200
He goes "Yes.
I'm gonna fine him."
679
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,960
And Rob said,
"Go ahead and fine him.
680
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,440
Nike will cover him."
681
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,320
It became the shoe
that was banned by the NBA,
682
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,960
with the implication
that it was
683
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,640
because it made Michael
such a good basketball player.
684
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,160
Announcer: On September 15th,
Nike created a revolutionary
685
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,680
new basketball shoe.
686
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,720
On October 18th, the NBA
threw them out of the game.
687
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,640
Fortunately, the NBA can't
stop you from wearing them.
688
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440
♪♪
689
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,200
Lazenby: Nike officials
reacted with glee to this,
690
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,880
because that meant that,
if something is outlawed,
691
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,000
it becomes very precious.
692
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Williams: Typically, when you
brand a product, you start with
693
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,800
what we call "functional
benefits of consumption."
694
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,560
You want to give people
a sense that, again,
695
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,280
this somehow
solves a problem
696
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,800
or it somehow makes you better
at something you're doing.
697
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,960
And that was the first thing
we did with the Jordan brand,
698
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,120
was "Hey, we gave you the sense
that you would be
699
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,000
a better basketball player
if you were to wear these shoes,
700
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,680
and that the NBA band
these shoes
701
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,480
because it gave
Michael Jordan
702
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240
some type
of competitive advantage."
703
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,440
And then,
you look on television,
704
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,240
and you see this man
doing things
705
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,600
that you'd never seen an athlete
do, ever, you believe in it.
706
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,960
They gave Nike
the best publicity ever
707
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,600
when they banned
the Air Jordan,
708
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,120
which only made them hotter
in the streets.
709
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Knight:
There's no question of the fact
that the shoes were banned
710
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,880
helped the sale
of the shoes.
711
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,400
Kids like that stuff.
712
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600
Particularly the inner city kid,
he loves that stuff.
713
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320
"I'm wearing something
I'm not supposed to be wearing.
714
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,520
Perfect."
715
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,960
[ Laughs ]
716
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,160
Couldn't be better.
717
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,480
And, all of a sudden,
overnight,
718
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,360
it was just like
everybody wanted them.
719
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760
They were being sold
on the street corners
720
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,600
for hundreds of dollars.
721
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,680
Knight The first time we showed
Footlocker, for example --
722
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000
which is the biggest
retailer in America --
723
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000
they only wanted 5,000 pairs
for all their stores.
724
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Within a week, they called,
and wanted 150,000 pairs.
725
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,600
-Nike!
-Adidas!
726
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,040
Competition is the name
of the game at Footlocker,
727
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,480
with the biggest selection
of big names ever assembled.
728
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,680
So, whether your game
is serious or social,
729
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,000
we'll find the right shoe
for you.
730
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120
You know, you don't tell people
not to do something,
731
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,720
because they want to do it --
particularly that age group.
732
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,480
And that just shows you
the personality
733
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,000
of the kid
who's buying the shoe.
734
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000
He wanted to
break the rules.
735
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,320
Kent: The shoes were
anti-establishment,
736
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,600
you know what I'm saying?
737
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,920
So, the hood is
anti-establishment.
738
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,880
It's almost like they were made
to be for each other.
739
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,800
Knight: The ban helped,
no question about it.
740
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,560
I mean Rob Strasser wrote David
a thank-you note.
741
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,480
And as Rob was leaving
his office,
742
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,400
he said, "I have one thing
to ask that you do."
743
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,200
And Rob turns around,
and says, "What?"
744
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080
"Can you send me a pair
of the banned shoes?
745
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,320
My son wants them.
He thinks I'm a jerk."
746
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800
[ Laughs ]
747
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,160
Bengtson:
The Air Jordan was something
that kind of transcended
748
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840
all these different borders
749
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,280
that hadn't really been
transcended before.
750
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,160
The fact that it comes out after
he plays in the All-Star game,
751
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,320
after he's in
his first dunk contest,
752
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,360
by the time that shoe
finally hit the market,
753
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400
they were just gone.
754
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,240
Knight:
I think we sold over a million
pairs of shoes in one year,
755
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,720
which is -- in those days
was a lot.
756
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,400
It wasn't started slowly
and built to a big fire.
757
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,440
It started as
a giant fire.
758
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,120
I mean, it just was -- there was
a big fire from day one.
759
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Flight Attendant: Good morning,
ladies and gentlemen.
760
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,400
Welcome to flight 23.
761
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Please make sure your seat belts
are securely fashioned,
762
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,440
and extinguish
all smoking materials.
763
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,720
Knight: Then, we had done it
for the first year.
764
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:10,920
Then everybody's going,
"What are we gonna do now?"
765
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,160
It became so big that
we were worried about it --
766
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,360
just the air would just
go out of it.
767
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,400
Bengtson: You know, if the
Air Jordan 1 was a shoe
768
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,400
that Nike had to get together
in a hurry,
769
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,360
and really rush
to get to market,
770
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,760
and get on Jordan's feet,
771
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,200
the Air Jordan 2
was kind of the opposite.
772
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,800
The Air Jordan 2 came along,
and it was like,
773
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,400
that shoe was pumping,
you know?
774
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,200
It was fly.
It was sleek.
775
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,000
It was well-built.
It was well-designed.
776
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,200
It was the first shoe
that didn't have
777
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,480
the Nike swoosh on it.
778
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:47,000
♪♪
779
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,480
That was a game-changer,
780
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560
you know, in terms of,
like, my community.
781
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,360
You know, for sneaker
connoisseurs and ball players,
782
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,840
like, the Jordan 2 was, like,
783
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200
"Oh, okay.
They got it right now."
784
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,040
Announcer: Air Jordan.
It's all in the imagination.
785
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,560
♪♪
786
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,640
The Air Jordan 2,
when it came out, it was a risk
787
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,200
that most sneaker companies
back then didn't take,
788
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,800
or wouldn't take.
789
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,000
It was almost twice
as expensive.
790
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,720
It was made in Italy.
791
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,240
Bengtson: And you could almost
look at the Air Jordan 2 --
792
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,720
even though it came out
in 1986, a full decade
793
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:22,840
before Jordan split off
into its own brand --
794
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,120
being sort of
the first sign
795
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,480
that Air Jordan was a thing
in and of itself,
796
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,280
that didn't necessarily need
that Nike swoosh.
797
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:42,440
Knight:
Well, here's the first poster
we did with Michael Jordan,
798
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,600
which basically was to announce
that he is arriving in Chicago.
799
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,000
This is my favorite shoe
of his.
800
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,400
And this is
the Chicago skyline,
801
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,440
and he's obviously flying over
the skyline into the city.
802
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,000
This was one of the interesting
things about Michael Jordan.
803
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,240
He gave me my own poster
for Christmas.
804
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,120
Maybe that's why
he's a billionaire.
805
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,480
Now, the brilliant thing
about Nike
806
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,360
is that they are
a marketing company,
807
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,680
first and foremost.
808
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,360
Their relationship
with Wieden+Kennedy,
809
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,720
and the ideas behind that
is what makes them special.
810
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,280
And Wieden+Kennedy
really hadn't stepped in
811
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,880
as a marketing group
behind pushing Jordan.
812
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,760
But starting with 3,
they did.
813
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,520
A lot of the things
that made Jordan special
814
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,040
is that the grassroots aspects
of how they approached things.
815
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,040
So, Wieden+Kennedy
tapped into that.
816
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,640
What's happening at
the grassroots level,
817
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,720
as far as, like, you know,
818
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,320
African American society
is concerned?
819
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Who's that new cat?
Who has that fresh breath?
820
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,800
What's that new visual?
What's that new voice?
821
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,000
And their new voice
was in a character
822
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,560
that Spike Lee had created.
823
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,000
You know, when he did with
his first feature film,
824
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,280
"She's Gotta Have It."
825
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520
You know, is there anyway
to tap into him"
826
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,960
"She's Gotta Have It"
was a love story
827
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,000
not only between Mars Blackmon
and Nola Darling,
828
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,760
but between Mars Blackmon
and his Air Jordans.
829
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,280
And he sort of couldn't decide
between the two.
830
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,800
He kind of wanted
to have both.
831
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,320
You know, I think a lot of kids
in the eighties
832
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,800
could identify with that.
833
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,080
He knew that before a lot
of other people,
834
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,600
you know,
which I think is why
835
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,600
Spike was able to become
as successful as he did.
836
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,000
And -- you know, and I think
Nike and Wieden+Kennedy,
837
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,960
and I think it was Jim Riswold
at Wieden, who recognized that.
838
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,200
Riswold: It was 1987,
839
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,800
and Bill Davenport and I
were down in L.A.
840
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,240
finishing our first spot
with Michael Jordan.
841
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,400
And back then,
all spots with Nike
842
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,200
seemed to be "show
the athlete sweat,
843
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,200
and put a product shot
at the end,
844
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,080
and call it a day."
845
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,800
Announcer: Today at Nike,
we know even more.
846
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,080
We developed one of the most
sophisticated sport
847
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000
research labs in the world
to let us see,
848
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,800
in detail,
the peculiarities of style,
849
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200
the dynamics
of foot strike.
850
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,960
And at Nike, we're putting
that knowledge to work,
851
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,440
making shoes that actually
help athletes to run faster.
852
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,080
Riswold: So, we were down there,
doing that commercial.
853
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,680
And we went to a movie.
854
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,840
And there was a trailer
at the beginning of the move
855
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,560
with a guy we'd never heard of
called "Spike Lee,"
856
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,760
selling tube socks
on the sidewalk.
857
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,440
Three for $5.
858
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,680
Hi. I'm Spike Lee.
859
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,800
When I'm not directing,
I do this.
860
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,440
It pays the rent,
puts food on the table,
861
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,400
butter on my
whole wheat bread.
862
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,040
Anyway, I have this new comedy
coming out.
863
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,720
It's a very funny film --
"She's Gotta Have It."
864
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,440
Riswold: That was
a great trailer.
865
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,760
So, you get back to Portland,
and that movie is playing.
866
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,240
And it's about three men
pursuing the same woman.
867
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,760
And one of those men is
the Mars Blackmon character.
868
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,280
And he finally gets the time
to sleep with
869
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,520
the woman of his dreams,
Nola Darling.
870
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,400
And while doing so, he won't
take off his Air Jordans.
871
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,120
Blackmon: Stop. Stop.
No, stop. Stop.
872
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,840
Knight:
He's boffing this girl in bed,
and he's wearing Air Jordans.
873
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,520
And I went "Great," you know,
"nice promo."
874
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,000
And Bill and I
look at each other like
875
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,960
"Are you thinking
what I'm thinking?"
876
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,080
They said, "We ought to do
a TV commercial with him."
877
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,600
We called Spike up.
878
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,240
And that was back when
he answered his own phone.
879
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:22,840
"Would you be interested
in playing your role,
880
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,520
and directing
Michael Jordan
881
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,960
in a series of Mars Blackmon
and Michael Jordan commercials?"
882
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,920
And I think we could hear him
pee his pants
883
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,240
on the other end
of the line.
884
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:33,720
"Do I get to
direct him, too?"
885
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,160
-Nola?
-Yes, Mars.
886
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,840
-Nola?
-Yes, Mars.
887
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,200
Is it because he do a vicious
high-flying 360 slam dunk?
888
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,400
-No, Mars.
-Because he's taller than me?
889
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,040
No, Mars.
890
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,800
Because he's loved, adored,
and worshiped by millions?
891
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,480
-No, Mars.
-Nola, what is it?
892
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,080
It's because he's got
the new Air Jordans, Mars.
893
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Oh sweat, oh sweat,
oh sweat.
894
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,840
Nike, you got to
hook me up.
895
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,200
Spike Lee and
the Mars and Mike campaign
896
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,640
of the 1980s,
897
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,400
playing the character
Mars Blackmon, of course,
898
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,480
from "She's Gotta Have It,"
played an integral part of
899
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,720
making Michael Jordan
believable
900
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,360
while still having
that sense of integrity.
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