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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,987 --> 00:00:13,301 We'd like to carry on now with a song featuring just Paul, 2 00:00:13,326 --> 00:00:15,369 and it's called Yesterday. 3 00:00:45,774 --> 00:00:47,026 I dreamed this. 4 00:00:47,609 --> 00:00:50,572 I was in a little top floor flat at my girlfriend's house. 5 00:00:51,072 --> 00:00:52,823 I, I woke up with this tune. 6 00:00:53,323 --> 00:00:55,636 I thought, "I love this tune. 7 00:00:55,659 --> 00:00:58,012 "This must be from my dad's era 8 00:00:58,036 --> 00:00:59,414 or just like some old tune." 9 00:00:59,872 --> 00:01:00,914 So I just started‐‐ 10 00:01:13,844 --> 00:01:16,305 So I had that, but I couldn't carry the piano with me. 11 00:01:17,222 --> 00:01:19,933 So, you know, I, I transposed it onto a guitar. 12 00:01:20,435 --> 00:01:21,954 Said to people‐‐ first of all, John. 13 00:01:21,978 --> 00:01:23,438 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Said, "What's this?" 14 00:01:24,146 --> 00:01:26,207 You know? He said, "I don't know." 15 00:01:26,231 --> 00:01:29,085 I said, "No, this tune, it must be something. 16 00:01:29,109 --> 00:01:31,296 We‐we've heard it." He said, "I don't know." 17 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:33,674 So I took it to George Martin, our producer, 18 00:01:33,698 --> 00:01:35,759 and George has got a wider knowledge 19 00:01:35,783 --> 00:01:36,902 of particularly older songs. 20 00:01:37,576 --> 00:01:40,579 So I said, "What's this?" He said, "I don't know." 21 00:01:41,164 --> 00:01:43,057 I said, "Well, I've called it Yesterday." 22 00:01:43,081 --> 00:01:45,519 He said, "Well, there is a song called Yesterdays." 23 00:01:45,543 --> 00:01:47,212 I said, "I'm not worried about the title. 24 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:51,859 It's this melody, you know, because I, I can't have written it..." 25 00:01:51,883 --> 00:01:52,984 ‐ Yeah. 26 00:01:53,009 --> 00:01:57,114 ‐ 'Cause I didn't‐‐ there was no conscious effort involved. 27 00:01:57,138 --> 00:01:59,450 ‐ Yeah. ‐ I just woke up and it was there. 28 00:01:59,473 --> 00:02:02,286 So, you know, people later would say to me, you know, 29 00:02:02,310 --> 00:02:03,745 "Do you believe in magic?" 30 00:02:03,769 --> 00:02:05,063 I said, "Well, I have to." 31 00:02:06,063 --> 00:02:08,667 You know? I mean, how did that happen? 32 00:02:08,691 --> 00:02:09,817 ‐ Yeah. ‐ I'm sleeping. 33 00:02:11,235 --> 00:02:14,298 Going "..." 34 00:02:14,322 --> 00:02:16,091 I love this song. I love it. 35 00:02:16,115 --> 00:02:18,593 Wake up. Now the difference is, I remembered it. 36 00:02:18,617 --> 00:02:19,094 ‐ Yes. 37 00:02:19,118 --> 00:02:21,972 ‐ I think a lot of people hear beautiful music in their dreams. 38 00:02:21,996 --> 00:02:23,723 ‐ Yes. ‐ But don't necessarily remember it. 39 00:02:23,747 --> 00:02:25,391 ‐ I wonder if you didn't have a piano there, 40 00:02:25,415 --> 00:02:26,769 if you would have been able to remember it. 41 00:02:26,793 --> 00:02:27,646 ‐ Yeah. 42 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:29,938 ‐ You know, waking up, and luckily, there was a piano. 43 00:02:29,962 --> 00:02:31,689 ‐ Yeah, it's true. It was very lucky, yeah. 44 00:02:31,713 --> 00:02:34,985 ‐ But in those days, you had to remember a lot of things... ‐ You have to! Yeah. 45 00:02:35,009 --> 00:02:38,054 ‐ ...because you didn't‐‐ we weren't able to record things so easily. 46 00:02:38,638 --> 00:02:41,074 ‐ You weren't able to record things. ‐ At all. 47 00:02:41,098 --> 00:02:43,826 ‐ There was, like, no phones to do it, obviously. ‐ Yeah. 48 00:02:43,850 --> 00:02:46,896 ‐ The only things were these big Grundig tape recorders 49 00:02:47,563 --> 00:02:48,665 with a green eye on them. 50 00:02:48,689 --> 00:02:50,569 ‐ Which you wouldn't always have in your pocket. 51 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:52,795 ‐ You wouldn't even have in your home. ‐ Really? 52 00:02:52,819 --> 00:02:55,612 ‐ Because, yeah, you've got to have a bit of money to have them. 53 00:03:07,709 --> 00:03:11,461 I'd recorded it just with the guitar and vocal. 54 00:03:12,212 --> 00:03:14,316 And I'd said to the guys in the band, I said, 55 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:16,026 "What are you going to do," you know? 56 00:03:16,050 --> 00:03:18,887 And they all said, "No, I don't think we need to do anything. 57 00:03:19,512 --> 00:03:21,407 You should just do it on your own." 58 00:03:21,431 --> 00:03:22,866 So it's like the first time, I think, 59 00:03:22,890 --> 00:03:25,076 I'd ever done like a solo thing. 60 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:26,436 So I just played on guitar. 61 00:03:26,853 --> 00:03:30,397 And George Martin said, "For safety, let's just do one more," 62 00:03:30,647 --> 00:03:33,359 and this was the second take that they used. 63 00:03:33,776 --> 00:03:36,737 And then we're sitting around listening to it. 64 00:03:39,073 --> 00:03:40,074 ‐ And I'm thinking... 65 00:03:41,742 --> 00:03:43,846 ‐ "Yeah." You know, "sounds nice." 66 00:03:43,870 --> 00:03:44,847 Yeah. 67 00:03:44,871 --> 00:03:48,790 ‐ And George said, he's got this idea to put strings on it. 68 00:03:49,209 --> 00:03:51,627 He said, "I think it'd be great with a string quartet." 69 00:03:52,086 --> 00:03:54,147 I'm going, "No." I mean... 70 00:03:54,171 --> 00:03:56,025 ‐ And you guys had never used strings before this. 71 00:03:56,049 --> 00:03:58,175 ‐ No. And plus we're a rock‐and‐roll band. 72 00:03:58,718 --> 00:04:00,195 You don't use strings. 73 00:04:00,219 --> 00:04:02,656 So George being very smart, he said, "Well, let's try it." 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,366 ‐ Yeah. 75 00:04:03,389 --> 00:04:05,432 ‐ "And if you hate it, we can take it off." 76 00:04:06,391 --> 00:04:07,435 So he did try it. 77 00:04:19,988 --> 00:04:22,175 Yeah, so I loved it. I loved the session. 78 00:04:22,199 --> 00:04:23,968 Right away, like right away. 79 00:04:23,992 --> 00:04:26,930 When you first heard it, was it jarring or good experience? 80 00:04:26,954 --> 00:04:29,141 ‐ No, it was great, you know, 'cause it's just me 81 00:04:29,165 --> 00:04:31,060 with George up in the control room. ‐ Yeah. 82 00:04:31,084 --> 00:04:33,521 ‐ And we go down and we sit and meet the string players, 83 00:04:33,545 --> 00:04:35,105 just a little quartet. 84 00:04:35,129 --> 00:04:37,649 ‐ And I was really excited. Yeah. 85 00:04:37,673 --> 00:04:38,942 Because we'd never done anything like this, 86 00:04:38,966 --> 00:04:40,843 and it suddenly made it feel whole. 87 00:04:42,928 --> 00:04:46,574 - George Martin was a huge help in that... - Yeah. 88 00:04:46,598 --> 00:04:48,536 ‐ ...in as much as he could write it, 89 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,872 you know, normally you, you've got a song 90 00:04:52,896 --> 00:04:54,917 and you have to get an outside arranger in. 91 00:04:54,941 --> 00:04:55,459 ‐ Yeah. 92 00:04:55,483 --> 00:04:58,795 ‐ And then he sort of goes off into a cupboard somewhere, 93 00:04:58,819 --> 00:05:01,113 and you don't quite know what it's going to be. 94 00:05:01,613 --> 00:05:06,160 But with George, you knew that we read each other well enough. 95 00:05:06,870 --> 00:05:10,747 The funny thing was when we were shown notation, 96 00:05:11,583 --> 00:05:13,226 it didn't mean anything to us, 97 00:05:13,250 --> 00:05:15,396 still doesn't really mean anything to me. 98 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:18,106 Even though I work with a classical orchestra 99 00:05:18,130 --> 00:05:19,841 and do a huge orchestral piece, 100 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:24,529 I will have to talk it through with them rather than say, 101 00:05:24,553 --> 00:05:27,031 "Um, the B flat in bar 14, 102 00:05:27,055 --> 00:05:28,682 that should be a B, not a B flat." 103 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:32,353 You know? After going, "No, that note there should be‐‐" 104 00:05:32,896 --> 00:05:35,290 ‐ You know, I know‐‐ ‐ Lower or higher. 105 00:05:35,314 --> 00:05:36,625 Yeah. Lower or higher. 106 00:05:36,649 --> 00:05:39,752 But, um, that's how we did it. 107 00:05:39,776 --> 00:05:42,005 And my excuse, there is an excuse, 108 00:05:42,029 --> 00:05:44,048 because coming from Liverpool, 109 00:05:44,072 --> 00:05:47,534 there's a lot of sort of Irish Celtic influence. 110 00:05:48,076 --> 00:05:50,514 And the Celts never wrote anything down. 111 00:05:50,538 --> 00:05:52,641 It's the bardic tradition. ‐ Yeah. 112 00:05:52,665 --> 00:05:54,100 ‐ So that's our excuse. ‐ Yeah. 113 00:05:54,125 --> 00:05:56,668 ‐ Me and John used to say, "Yeah, it was the bardic tradition." 114 00:05:59,379 --> 00:06:00,940 ‐ When you were kids starting to write songs, 115 00:06:00,964 --> 00:06:02,942 what would you hear on the radio typically? 116 00:06:02,966 --> 00:06:06,572 ‐ In the early days, there wasn't much on radio. 117 00:06:06,596 --> 00:06:09,199 There was just one or two cool DJs, 118 00:06:09,223 --> 00:06:11,242 but we were listening to records 119 00:06:11,266 --> 00:06:14,120 and it'd be a lot of R&B, 120 00:06:14,144 --> 00:06:15,831 things like Ray Charles, 121 00:06:15,855 --> 00:06:17,207 and Little Richard, 122 00:06:17,231 --> 00:06:20,877 Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Isley Brothers, 123 00:06:20,901 --> 00:06:23,237 we'd cover all those. 124 00:06:43,507 --> 00:06:46,093 I thought I was Ray Charles, in my head. 125 00:06:46,718 --> 00:06:47,947 Were records easy to come by? 126 00:06:47,971 --> 00:06:50,223 Was it a popular thing at the time? 127 00:06:50,557 --> 00:06:52,492 ‐ Yeah. I mean, you could go to a record shop 128 00:06:52,516 --> 00:06:54,620 and you'd go in the booths and you'd listen. 129 00:06:54,644 --> 00:06:57,122 The main thing was finance. 130 00:06:57,146 --> 00:06:58,874 You didn't have that much money. 131 00:06:58,898 --> 00:07:02,086 So you'd have to save up to buy an LP 132 00:07:02,110 --> 00:07:04,153 or concert tickets. 133 00:07:16,749 --> 00:07:20,252 We all started, all the bands, started off doing covers 134 00:07:20,711 --> 00:07:24,440 when we were in Hamburg and in The Cavern in Liverpool, 135 00:07:24,464 --> 00:07:26,300 it was pretty much all covers. 136 00:07:26,718 --> 00:07:29,345 So I would do Long Tall Sally by Little Richard. 137 00:07:29,928 --> 00:07:31,824 But so did one of the other groups. 138 00:07:31,848 --> 00:07:33,951 There was a group called Derry and the Seniors. 139 00:07:33,975 --> 00:07:36,394 And, and Derry, he could do‐‐ 140 00:07:38,146 --> 00:07:40,249 He could do that, you know, and so it was like, 141 00:07:40,273 --> 00:07:41,917 "Well, I want to do it better." ‐ Yeah. 142 00:07:41,941 --> 00:07:43,377 ‐ Because if you were backstage 143 00:07:43,401 --> 00:07:45,653 and you were going to be on after them... ‐ Yeah. 144 00:07:48,322 --> 00:07:50,300 You'd go, "" you know, 145 00:07:50,324 --> 00:07:52,052 "Well, I was going to do that." ‐ Yeah. 146 00:07:52,076 --> 00:07:54,637 ‐ And you actually didn't have time to change, 147 00:07:54,661 --> 00:07:56,182 so you would do that. 148 00:07:56,206 --> 00:07:58,332 You'd go on and just hope your version was better. 149 00:07:59,375 --> 00:08:01,961 I remember we used to do a three‐four thing, 150 00:08:11,262 --> 00:08:13,473 The original version was by James Ray. 151 00:08:25,860 --> 00:08:27,338 ‐ It was a real cool little thing, 152 00:08:27,362 --> 00:08:29,738 and I said, we'd never heard this beat. 153 00:08:33,701 --> 00:08:35,787 Like a waltz, a rock‐and‐roll waltz, 154 00:08:36,620 --> 00:08:37,639 so we did this. 155 00:08:37,663 --> 00:08:40,165 And I remember a couple of the London bands coming up, 156 00:08:40,875 --> 00:08:43,062 "Play If You Gotta Make a Fool of Somebody." 157 00:08:43,086 --> 00:08:44,812 Because it was‐‐ they'd not heard anything like this. 158 00:08:44,836 --> 00:08:46,356 ‐ Yeah. Where would you have heard it? 159 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:49,676 ‐ On record. George had the album, James Ray album. 160 00:08:50,301 --> 00:08:52,761 And he took‐‐ he later, much later, he got, 161 00:08:54,972 --> 00:08:57,534 ‐ That was a James Ray, off that album. ‐ Wow! Wow! 162 00:08:57,558 --> 00:08:59,726 ‐ So George remembered that. 163 00:09:00,269 --> 00:09:04,958 But we'd have these little oddball songs that we'd put in 164 00:09:04,982 --> 00:09:07,253 because we were playing so many hours. ‐ Yeah. 165 00:09:07,277 --> 00:09:09,462 ‐ We didn't want to get bored. ‐ Yeah. 166 00:09:09,486 --> 00:09:12,549 Just keep it interesting. ‐ We just‐‐ we could not have handled it 167 00:09:12,573 --> 00:09:17,303 if we'd‐‐ every set we played the same lot of songs. 168 00:09:17,327 --> 00:09:19,306 So we started to think, "Well, you know what? 169 00:09:19,330 --> 00:09:21,957 If we wrote stuff, they wouldn't know it." 170 00:09:22,792 --> 00:09:25,836 Nobody would be able to access it. It'd be private to us. 171 00:09:26,336 --> 00:09:28,440 So that's actually what started‐‐ ‐ Yeah. 172 00:09:28,463 --> 00:09:30,149 ‐ It wasn't a great light bulb went off. 173 00:09:30,173 --> 00:09:31,842 It was sheer necessity 174 00:09:32,302 --> 00:09:34,636 to have something the other bands couldn't play. 175 00:09:35,554 --> 00:09:38,349 - Quite, quite brisk. - Moderate Alto Fox Trot. 176 00:09:38,725 --> 00:09:40,577 The red light's on. 177 00:09:40,601 --> 00:09:42,620 Is it? Of course, I couldn't see. 178 00:09:42,644 --> 00:09:44,397 One, two, three, four! 179 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:10,880 ‐ Wow. 180 00:10:15,427 --> 00:10:16,427 Wow. 181 00:10:32,028 --> 00:10:34,215 ‐ The two of them are cooking! 182 00:10:34,239 --> 00:10:35,240 Like‐‐ ‐ Yeah. 183 00:10:35,740 --> 00:10:36,740 ‐ Cooking. 184 00:11:05,812 --> 00:11:08,164 ‐ And we're listening with the drums out, 185 00:11:08,188 --> 00:11:11,460 and it's still full‐on cooking. ‐ Yeah. 186 00:11:11,484 --> 00:11:12,735 It's good, innit? Yeah. 187 00:11:13,485 --> 00:11:14,255 ‐ Wow. ‐ Well, that's the thing. 188 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:17,048 You can hear the excitement of us just making stuff up. 189 00:11:17,072 --> 00:11:19,009 ‐ For sure. For sure. ‐ Can't you? 190 00:11:19,033 --> 00:11:21,494 It's just like, "Yeah. Let's do that." "Okay." 191 00:11:21,952 --> 00:11:23,639 ‐ You know? ‐ It, it sounds thrilling. 192 00:11:23,663 --> 00:11:25,890 Like, and I think what it is, 193 00:11:25,914 --> 00:11:29,644 is you guys were excited making it. 194 00:11:29,668 --> 00:11:32,422 ‐ And we get to feel your excitement. ‐ Yeah. 195 00:11:32,754 --> 00:11:36,943 ‐ You can‐‐ It's a human feeling that's in that performance. 196 00:11:36,967 --> 00:11:37,986 ‐ Yeah. 197 00:11:38,010 --> 00:11:41,030 ‐ Clearly, these guys are going for it. ‐ Yeah. 198 00:11:41,054 --> 00:11:42,323 Really. Yeah. ‐ And you feel it. 199 00:11:42,347 --> 00:11:44,409 ‐ Because it all had to be done so quickly. 200 00:11:44,433 --> 00:11:47,871 ‐ Yeah, it's contagious, you know. Like, the energy is contagious. 201 00:11:47,895 --> 00:11:48,895 ‐ Yeah, yeah, yeah. 202 00:11:57,279 --> 00:11:59,924 ‐ It has‐‐ To me, it has a Celtic flavor. 203 00:11:59,948 --> 00:12:01,092 I don't know why that is. 204 00:12:01,116 --> 00:12:03,428 ‐ Well, you know, I mean, we're Liverpool boys, 205 00:12:03,452 --> 00:12:05,746 and they say Liverpool is the capital of Ireland. 206 00:12:06,288 --> 00:12:09,625 So it's likely that there's all those influences, you know. 207 00:12:10,460 --> 00:12:14,063 But we would just make up the solo, in this case, 208 00:12:14,087 --> 00:12:17,759 and just learn the harmony and the solo and then play the two live. 209 00:12:18,217 --> 00:12:23,181 ‐ So‐‐ But technically, this isn't what you think of as the song. 210 00:12:23,514 --> 00:12:26,951 This was a musical choice you made in the studio. 211 00:12:26,975 --> 00:12:29,056 ‐ Yeah, yeah. Yeah. ‐ The song would have been more‐‐ 212 00:12:41,282 --> 00:12:42,991 ‐ Yeah. Really straightforward. 213 00:12:51,375 --> 00:12:54,730 ‐ Yeah. This is more traditional until we get to‐‐ 214 00:12:54,754 --> 00:12:56,673 ‐ Yeah! The solo, yeah. ‐ Yeah. 215 00:13:09,018 --> 00:13:10,412 ‐ Yeah. ‐ It's amazing. 216 00:13:10,436 --> 00:13:12,998 Good group. 217 00:13:13,022 --> 00:13:15,793 ‐ Was there ever a time where you guys would sing unison 218 00:13:15,817 --> 00:13:17,043 as opposed to harmony? 219 00:13:17,067 --> 00:13:19,337 ‐ Yeah. Always on the early records. 220 00:13:19,361 --> 00:13:22,841 That was the thing because we'd written the song together. 221 00:13:22,865 --> 00:13:23,634 ‐ Yeah. 222 00:13:23,658 --> 00:13:26,119 ‐ And we'd sing it together. 223 00:13:26,661 --> 00:13:28,955 Just, just kind of remember it and just sing it. 224 00:13:29,455 --> 00:13:31,350 And George Martin would say, "Who's the lead singer?" 225 00:13:31,374 --> 00:13:33,309 We'd say, "Well, me and John." ‐ Yeah. 226 00:13:33,334 --> 00:13:35,312 ‐ So it was like early double tracking. 227 00:13:35,336 --> 00:13:36,022 ‐ Yeah, yeah. 228 00:13:36,046 --> 00:13:37,940 ‐ And also, it might just have been 229 00:13:37,963 --> 00:13:40,650 that both of us wanted to do the vocal. 230 00:13:40,674 --> 00:13:41,318 ‐ Yeah. 231 00:13:41,342 --> 00:13:44,279 ‐ So there's only one answer to that, both do it. 232 00:13:44,303 --> 00:13:46,072 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 233 00:13:46,096 --> 00:13:48,533 Would you sit down to write a song 234 00:13:48,557 --> 00:13:51,311 or... does it just happen? 235 00:13:51,852 --> 00:13:54,272 ‐ With John and I, we'd sit down. ‐ Yeah. 236 00:13:54,730 --> 00:13:57,250 And you would know, "I'm coming over tomorrow at noon. 237 00:13:57,274 --> 00:13:59,169 We're going to meet at this time and let's write." 238 00:13:59,193 --> 00:14:00,953 ‐ Yeah, yeah. And we'll just write something. 239 00:14:30,850 --> 00:14:34,120 ‐ I wrote this song while waiting for John to get up. 240 00:14:34,144 --> 00:14:36,898 I used to go out to his house to write. 241 00:14:37,690 --> 00:14:39,984 He wasn't always ready, shall we say. 242 00:14:40,527 --> 00:14:42,379 So I'm just sitting out with my guitar 243 00:14:42,403 --> 00:14:44,489 and started working on this one. 244 00:14:45,114 --> 00:14:46,466 And then when John had come, 245 00:14:46,490 --> 00:14:49,661 I said, "Look, I've got this." "Great, let's finish it up." 246 00:14:50,161 --> 00:14:52,205 And so we'd finish it up together. 247 00:14:53,413 --> 00:14:56,059 This was a tune I was always very pleased with, you know. 248 00:14:56,084 --> 00:14:58,520 People say, "Which is your favorite tune of yours?" 249 00:14:58,544 --> 00:14:59,063 ‐ Yeah. 250 00:14:59,087 --> 00:15:02,715 ‐ And I'm kind of tempted to say Yesterday because it arrived so magically. 251 00:15:03,423 --> 00:15:06,195 But I like this one. I like Here, There, and Everywhere. 252 00:15:06,219 --> 00:15:08,614 And in fact, John liked this one. 253 00:15:08,638 --> 00:15:11,533 And John was not one to praise. 254 00:15:11,557 --> 00:15:12,201 ‐ Yeah. 255 00:15:12,225 --> 00:15:14,702 ‐ Because, you know, we've talked about him being a little bit shielded. 256 00:15:14,726 --> 00:15:15,371 ‐ Yeah. 257 00:15:15,395 --> 00:15:18,856 ‐ You know, he just wouldn't praise anything unless he really liked it. 258 00:15:19,731 --> 00:15:21,543 After we'd made this record, 259 00:15:21,567 --> 00:15:27,131 we were going to film in Austria for the film Help. 260 00:15:27,155 --> 00:15:28,424 Yes. 261 00:15:28,448 --> 00:15:31,661 And me and John shared a ski chalet, 262 00:15:32,161 --> 00:15:34,998 so we were taking our boots off and stuff as we were playing the album. 263 00:15:35,581 --> 00:15:37,750 I remember him saying, "I like this one." 264 00:15:38,543 --> 00:15:40,437 And you know what? That was, like, enough. 265 00:15:40,461 --> 00:15:41,022 ‐ Yeah. 266 00:15:41,046 --> 00:15:43,755 ‐ That was a great praise coming from John. 267 00:15:48,635 --> 00:15:50,447 ‐ It's pushing the bass notes too. 268 00:15:50,471 --> 00:15:51,556 ‐ Yeah. ‐ And the guitar. 269 00:15:53,432 --> 00:15:54,517 Cool. 270 00:15:57,312 --> 00:15:58,312 ‐ Incredible harmony. 271 00:16:00,023 --> 00:16:01,023 ‐ Incredible. 272 00:16:25,465 --> 00:16:27,234 Did you take turns, like John would do a song 273 00:16:27,258 --> 00:16:29,278 and then you would do a song and back and forth, 274 00:16:29,302 --> 00:16:31,488 - that's how it would work? - Yeah. Often. Yeah. 275 00:16:31,511 --> 00:16:34,490 It would be his song, my song, his song, my song. 276 00:16:34,514 --> 00:16:35,243 Yeah. 277 00:16:35,267 --> 00:16:38,995 ‐ I mean, I say this a lot, but as a Beatles' fan now, 278 00:16:39,019 --> 00:16:41,081 it is astounding to me 279 00:16:41,105 --> 00:16:43,375 that, I think, all in all, 280 00:16:43,399 --> 00:16:46,402 I think John and I wrote just short of 300 songs, 281 00:16:46,818 --> 00:16:49,072 and every session, we finished the song. 282 00:16:49,947 --> 00:16:52,700 You'd think that there'd be at least ten 283 00:16:53,201 --> 00:16:54,494 where we just couldn't get it. 284 00:16:55,286 --> 00:16:58,349 But there was something about the work ethic 285 00:16:58,373 --> 00:17:02,727 or just the‐‐ knowing each other so well, 286 00:17:02,751 --> 00:17:04,813 that we would spur each other on 287 00:17:04,836 --> 00:17:06,898 and we just didn't like to leave it. 288 00:17:06,923 --> 00:17:08,682 "We haven't done it. We haven't finished it." 289 00:17:09,174 --> 00:17:12,470 So we would, we would go till we, till we finished stuff, 290 00:17:13,011 --> 00:17:15,406 um... and we did. 291 00:17:15,431 --> 00:17:16,909 We pretty much did. 292 00:17:16,932 --> 00:17:17,910 ‐ It's amazing. 293 00:17:17,933 --> 00:17:20,185 ‐ It was, it was great. You know, I say, I look back, 294 00:17:20,979 --> 00:17:24,375 at the time I was just working with this bloke called John. 295 00:17:24,398 --> 00:17:25,375 ‐ Yeah. 296 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,152 ‐ Now I look back, and I was working with John Lennon. 297 00:17:34,701 --> 00:17:38,806 I knew this was like a, a big song 298 00:17:38,829 --> 00:17:40,932 from the minute John brought it in 299 00:17:40,957 --> 00:17:42,750 and we started working on it. 300 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,334 Yeah. 301 00:18:06,357 --> 00:18:09,878 So I mean, that was like, I'd been, by that time, 302 00:18:09,903 --> 00:18:12,463 this is, this is quite late in The Beatles. 303 00:18:12,488 --> 00:18:15,925 And I'd been listening to, like, a lot of avant garde music. 304 00:18:15,950 --> 00:18:17,010 ‐ Yeah. ‐ I was in London. 305 00:18:17,035 --> 00:18:18,511 I was hanging out, 306 00:18:18,536 --> 00:18:20,306 and, you know, we're getting quite artsy 307 00:18:20,329 --> 00:18:22,724 and going to a lot of arts exhibitions. 308 00:18:22,749 --> 00:18:27,061 And I was, you know, reading about crazy composers, 309 00:18:27,086 --> 00:18:28,480 like John Cage. ‐ Yeah. 310 00:18:28,503 --> 00:18:32,942 ‐ The concepts were like, wow, very freeing. 311 00:18:32,967 --> 00:18:36,346 ‐ John Cage and Water Walk. 312 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,882 I don't want to do that, 313 00:18:54,905 --> 00:18:56,907 but I love the idea that he did it. 314 00:18:58,159 --> 00:18:59,720 I said to George Martin, 315 00:18:59,743 --> 00:19:01,663 "George, we need a symphony orchestra." 316 00:19:02,163 --> 00:19:05,083 And George originally said, "I don't think‐‐ We don't need that many." 317 00:19:05,666 --> 00:19:09,230 He said, "It's a full symphony, which is like over 40 people or something." 318 00:19:09,253 --> 00:19:12,339 I said, "Yeah, this song, we, we, we want it." 319 00:19:12,798 --> 00:19:18,029 So then the original thing that I put down was, 320 00:19:18,054 --> 00:19:19,323 from a certain point, 321 00:19:19,346 --> 00:19:22,141 all the musicians were allowed to break free. 322 00:19:23,142 --> 00:19:25,162 And now these are session musicians. 323 00:19:25,185 --> 00:19:27,373 They're not used to doing this kind of stuff, 324 00:19:27,396 --> 00:19:29,250 and it kind of frightens them a bit. 325 00:19:29,273 --> 00:19:31,193 So I sort of said, "Okay, here's the instruction. 326 00:19:31,526 --> 00:19:34,547 I said, "Each instrument, 327 00:19:34,570 --> 00:19:36,923 "you start on your lowest note 328 00:19:36,948 --> 00:19:39,300 "and you're going to reach your highest note, 329 00:19:39,325 --> 00:19:41,220 "but you go at your own speed. 330 00:19:41,243 --> 00:19:42,387 "So if you want, you can go, 331 00:19:42,412 --> 00:19:44,807 ‐ and you're done." ‐ Yeah. 332 00:19:44,830 --> 00:19:49,228 "Or you can go... 333 00:19:49,251 --> 00:19:50,491 and you can just play with it." 334 00:19:51,461 --> 00:19:55,692 The strings wouldn't really move without each other. 335 00:19:55,717 --> 00:19:57,486 They all went... 336 00:19:57,509 --> 00:19:59,113 ‐ They're following the first guy. 337 00:19:59,136 --> 00:20:00,136 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 338 00:20:06,059 --> 00:20:09,789 ‐ Whereas the brass, the trumpets, you'll notice they're a bit more free. 339 00:20:09,814 --> 00:20:11,709 They're a bit more, the lads‐‐ 340 00:20:11,732 --> 00:20:14,878 ‐ Yeah. They tend to have that personality in real life. 341 00:20:14,903 --> 00:20:16,672 Their personality showed. 342 00:20:16,695 --> 00:20:19,008 Let's listen to the‐‐ ‐ It's very exciting doing that piece of‐‐ 343 00:20:19,031 --> 00:20:20,200 ‐ Beautiful. 344 00:20:21,742 --> 00:20:23,536 So this, John brought it in. 345 00:20:24,328 --> 00:20:26,413 - Yeah. - Guitar and vocals. 346 00:20:30,626 --> 00:20:32,961 ‐ The Kenwood basses together support it. ‐ Yeah. 347 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:38,777 ‐ He's working hard. 348 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:39,969 ‐ Moving again. 349 00:21:18,132 --> 00:21:19,132 ‐ Yeah. 350 00:21:20,509 --> 00:21:23,054 ‐ It's, it's just so interesting that the‐‐ 351 00:21:23,887 --> 00:21:26,325 Listening to the vocal and the guitar, 352 00:21:26,348 --> 00:21:30,871 it's a very laid‐back, dreamy energy. 353 00:21:30,894 --> 00:21:31,664 Yeah. 354 00:21:31,689 --> 00:21:33,874 ‐ And then the bass comes in and it's‐‐ 355 00:21:33,897 --> 00:21:35,750 ‐ And the drums. Yeah. ‐ And the drums. 356 00:21:35,775 --> 00:21:38,921 ‐ But it's driving in an entirely different direction 357 00:21:38,944 --> 00:21:40,548 than the song might suggest. 358 00:21:40,572 --> 00:21:41,548 ‐ Yeah. 359 00:21:41,573 --> 00:21:43,884 You know, it's great that I felt that freedom. 360 00:21:43,907 --> 00:21:45,970 ‐ Absolutely. Absolutely. 361 00:21:45,993 --> 00:21:48,763 ‐ You know, the band was a very free band. ‐ Yeah. 362 00:21:48,788 --> 00:21:50,932 ‐ We would allow each other pretty much anything. 363 00:21:50,957 --> 00:21:51,809 ‐ Yeah. 364 00:21:51,834 --> 00:21:54,711 Unless it was, like, really stunk and it was, like, "No, forget it." 365 00:21:55,252 --> 00:21:58,816 Um, then we'd all gang up on whoever that was and stop it. 366 00:21:58,839 --> 00:21:59,840 ‐ Yeah. 367 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:07,056 ‐ And this is my childhood experiences. 368 00:22:09,474 --> 00:22:11,019 You know, going to school. 369 00:22:12,729 --> 00:22:14,528 ‐ I used to go to school on the bus, you know. 370 00:22:17,567 --> 00:22:20,128 ‐ Maybe I didn't have a smoke on the way to school. 371 00:22:20,153 --> 00:22:20,922 ‐ Yeah. 372 00:22:20,945 --> 00:22:22,029 ‐ But‐‐ ‐ Yeah. 373 00:22:23,323 --> 00:22:25,657 ‐ For the purposes of the song, yeah, exactly, yeah. 374 00:22:26,366 --> 00:22:28,577 ‐ Poetic license. ‐ Yep. 375 00:22:30,413 --> 00:22:35,810 ‐ Was that‐‐ Did you write this piece to go with what John brought in, 376 00:22:35,835 --> 00:22:36,854 or did you already have this? 377 00:22:36,877 --> 00:22:39,397 ‐ No. I already had the little middle thing. Yeah. 378 00:22:39,422 --> 00:22:41,858 ‐ Is this the first time you guys put two songs together? 379 00:22:41,883 --> 00:22:43,234 ‐ Could be. 380 00:22:43,259 --> 00:22:44,903 ‐ It makes it new music. 381 00:22:44,927 --> 00:22:48,281 If you just started with what would ordinarily accompany 382 00:22:48,306 --> 00:22:50,116 that kind of song, ‐ Yeah. 383 00:22:50,141 --> 00:22:52,994 ‐ it would be a ballady, a folky ballad. 384 00:22:53,019 --> 00:22:54,454 Yeah. 385 00:22:54,479 --> 00:22:56,707 ‐ You know? But to hear it come 386 00:22:56,730 --> 00:22:59,084 in this other direction, unexpected... 387 00:22:59,107 --> 00:23:00,294 ‐ Yeah. 388 00:23:00,317 --> 00:23:03,005 ‐ it feels like we've never heard music like this before by anybody, 389 00:23:03,028 --> 00:23:04,423 you know, that's the thing about it. 390 00:23:04,446 --> 00:23:08,259 It's like it takes a traditionally written song 391 00:23:08,284 --> 00:23:12,096 and turns it into, essentially, avant garde music, 392 00:23:12,121 --> 00:23:13,914 even using traditional instruments. 393 00:23:14,414 --> 00:23:17,894 ‐ Yeah. Normally, you know, it sort of worked like that. 394 00:23:17,919 --> 00:23:20,837 You could get away with a lot of free playing. 395 00:23:23,090 --> 00:23:24,777 Piano. Who's playing piano, do you know? 396 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,885 That's got to be me. 397 00:23:27,761 --> 00:23:29,596 ‐ It does sound avant garde as well. 398 00:23:37,063 --> 00:23:38,355 ‐ Ha! ‐ Wow. 399 00:23:40,983 --> 00:23:44,337 And then this piano end, this‐‐ 400 00:23:44,362 --> 00:23:48,008 I'd realized, I'd noticed that with the piano, 401 00:23:48,031 --> 00:23:49,551 how long, 402 00:23:49,576 --> 00:23:52,011 if you hold down a loud pedal on the piano, 403 00:23:52,036 --> 00:23:55,391 how long the chord lasts. 404 00:23:55,414 --> 00:23:57,852 And I just do it like a party piece with friends. 405 00:23:57,875 --> 00:23:59,195 ‐ Yeah. ‐ I say, "Listen to this." 406 00:24:12,307 --> 00:24:15,160 I brought the idea in, "Hey, man, it goes on forever. 407 00:24:15,183 --> 00:24:19,664 We should do this at the end of a song, where it's just‐‐ have it go on." 408 00:24:19,689 --> 00:24:22,317 And of course, George Martin, being a clever producer, 409 00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:24,920 magnified the idea. 410 00:24:24,943 --> 00:24:27,779 And he took the raw thing that I'd showed him. 411 00:24:33,118 --> 00:24:36,873 George then added another chord on top of it. ‐ Yeah. 412 00:24:38,499 --> 00:24:39,684 ‐ But it goes on forever. 413 00:24:39,709 --> 00:24:41,519 ‐ A really long time, and if you listen, 414 00:24:41,544 --> 00:24:43,146 it almost sounds like it changes. 415 00:24:43,171 --> 00:24:45,857 ‐ Yeah, you start to hear a little harmonica and things. 416 00:24:45,882 --> 00:24:48,843 Yeah. You know, there's the magic again. 33009

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