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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 Translated By The Community Of WWW.MY-SUBS.COM 1 00:00:00,791 --> 00:00:02,563 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:02,588 --> 00:00:06,089 sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. 3 00:00:06,114 --> 00:00:08,514 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 4 00:00:08,539 --> 00:00:10,473 who investigate these vicious felonies 5 00:00:10,498 --> 00:00:11,797 are members of an elite squad 6 00:00:11,822 --> 00:00:13,955 known as the Special Victims Unit. 7 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:15,862 These are their stories. 8 00:00:23,244 --> 00:00:25,510 Tonight on America's Worst Crimes... 9 00:00:25,535 --> 00:00:27,894 We've heard these stories before. 10 00:00:27,919 --> 00:00:31,287 A vicious rape on campus, an unresponsive university. 11 00:00:31,312 --> 00:00:33,979 And yet, the details of this particular story 12 00:00:34,004 --> 00:00:36,394 are even more horrifying than usual. 13 00:00:37,927 --> 00:00:39,594 Just steps away from the hectic heart 14 00:00:39,619 --> 00:00:43,494 of New York City stands Hudson University, 15 00:00:43,519 --> 00:00:46,194 a venerable institution of higher learning. 16 00:00:46,219 --> 00:00:47,994 A sanctuary of the mind. 17 00:00:48,345 --> 00:00:50,994 For a freshman... we'll call her Jane... 18 00:00:51,019 --> 00:00:54,287 away from her small Midwestern hometown for the first time, 19 00:00:54,443 --> 00:00:58,494 New York City and Hudson were a dream come true. 20 00:00:59,134 --> 00:01:02,302 But Jane's dream was about to turn into a nightmare. 21 00:01:03,683 --> 00:01:05,483 It started out innocently enough. 22 00:01:05,508 --> 00:01:07,542 Bill was a popular athlete 23 00:01:07,567 --> 00:01:09,893 who seemed like real boyfriend material. 24 00:01:10,868 --> 00:01:13,105 - _ - I thought he was one of the good guys. 25 00:01:13,615 --> 00:01:15,882 But you were wrong. 26 00:01:15,907 --> 00:01:18,508 About everything. 27 00:01:18,543 --> 00:01:20,243 - _ - They went back to his room 28 00:01:20,278 --> 00:01:23,213 in one of the most popular fraternities on campus. 29 00:01:27,052 --> 00:01:29,386 What started as a romantic moment 30 00:01:29,411 --> 00:01:31,745 quickly took a terrifying turn. 31 00:01:33,425 --> 00:01:35,558 Jane suddenly found herself outnumbered 32 00:01:35,594 --> 00:01:38,094 by four men twice her size, 33 00:01:38,130 --> 00:01:40,764 all with malicious intentions. 34 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:43,881 I could not believe he'd do this to me. 35 00:01:44,246 --> 00:01:47,047 But he did, didn't he? 36 00:01:47,072 --> 00:01:49,881 He set the whole attack up. 37 00:01:50,042 --> 00:01:52,809 And he gave his three friends permission 38 00:01:52,844 --> 00:01:55,645 to do whatever they wanted? 39 00:01:56,715 --> 00:01:59,082 At some point I just went numb. 40 00:01:59,117 --> 00:02:01,351 She was viciously gang-raped for hours. 41 00:02:01,386 --> 00:02:03,787 Her anguished cries for help went unanswered. 42 00:02:03,822 --> 00:02:06,081 No! No! 43 00:02:07,293 --> 00:02:10,280 I could tell I wasn't even human to them. 44 00:02:11,296 --> 00:02:13,730 They took turns raping you. 45 00:02:13,765 --> 00:02:15,265 Yes. 46 00:02:15,300 --> 00:02:17,267 Sodomizing you. 47 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:19,304 Yes. 48 00:02:21,118 --> 00:02:23,118 When they were done, they... 49 00:02:23,341 --> 00:02:25,308 Okay, Noah, just to be clear, 50 00:02:25,343 --> 00:02:27,477 you are not going to Hudson University. 51 00:02:27,512 --> 00:02:29,079 No, no. What do you want? 52 00:02:29,114 --> 00:02:30,747 I know this is difficult. 53 00:02:30,782 --> 00:02:31,915 Here you go, sweetie. 54 00:02:31,950 --> 00:02:34,280 They called me a whore. 55 00:02:34,753 --> 00:02:36,686 They called me a slut. 56 00:02:37,567 --> 00:02:40,368 They shoved me out of the door like I was garbage. 57 00:02:41,774 --> 00:02:44,174 Did you call the police or campus security? 58 00:02:44,872 --> 00:02:47,480 When I was up to it, I went to the school. 59 00:02:49,311 --> 00:02:51,681 They asked me if I had been drinking, 60 00:02:52,254 --> 00:02:54,381 if anyone could corroborate. 61 00:02:55,073 --> 00:02:56,039 Milk? 62 00:02:56,074 --> 00:02:57,507 They made me feel like 63 00:02:57,542 --> 00:02:59,476 I'd made a bad decision that night, and it was my fault. 64 00:02:59,511 --> 00:03:01,512 Chief dodds. 65 00:03:02,013 --> 00:03:04,748 America's Worst Crimes? I'm actually just watching it. 66 00:03:04,783 --> 00:03:07,117 Uh, no, I-I hadn't heard about it. 67 00:03:08,393 --> 00:03:10,727 The mayor's wife was watching? 68 00:03:10,887 --> 00:03:13,721 Well, that's just terrific. 69 00:03:13,870 --> 00:03:15,936 Yup. 70 00:03:15,961 --> 00:03:17,360 We're on it. 71 00:03:19,697 --> 00:03:23,699 But for Jane, her ordeal had only just begun. 72 00:03:23,798 --> 00:03:27,166 More from this nightmare on campus when we return. 73 00:04:15,527 --> 00:04:19,727 - Synced and corrected by martythecrazy - - www.MY-SUBS.com - 74 00:04:19,771 --> 00:04:23,249 But for Jane, her ordeal had only just begun. 75 00:04:23,274 --> 00:04:24,707 More from this... 76 00:04:25,910 --> 00:04:27,233 This is what you do with your Sundays off? 77 00:04:27,258 --> 00:04:29,634 Me and Gracie mansion, apparently. 78 00:04:29,659 --> 00:04:31,058 And now, 1pp is pissed 79 00:04:31,083 --> 00:04:33,356 because they got caught flat-footed on national TV. 80 00:04:33,381 --> 00:04:35,762 America's Worst Crimes has a huge following. 81 00:04:35,787 --> 00:04:37,725 - This is gonna go viral. - Yeah, I looked into it. 82 00:04:37,750 --> 00:04:39,966 The report says the attack happened in December, 83 00:04:39,991 --> 00:04:41,858 but NYPD's got no record of a complaint 84 00:04:41,893 --> 00:04:43,162 from the Vic or Hudson U. 85 00:04:43,187 --> 00:04:45,487 She did say that Hudson University ignored her. 86 00:04:45,512 --> 00:04:47,211 And God knows we've been down that road before. 87 00:04:47,236 --> 00:04:49,102 I know that the tail wags the dog, 88 00:04:49,127 --> 00:04:51,060 but these TV shows are in it for the ratings. 89 00:04:51,085 --> 00:04:52,685 We don't know that any of this even happened. 90 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:54,047 Yeah, I'm all for overtime, 91 00:04:54,072 --> 00:04:55,440 but don't we have enough work to do? 92 00:04:55,465 --> 00:04:56,979 Guys, this isn't LMZ. 93 00:04:57,004 --> 00:04:59,538 It is a legitimate national news magazine. 94 00:04:59,653 --> 00:05:01,786 They interviewed her. She disclosed. 95 00:05:01,978 --> 00:05:04,011 And I got a call from dodds, 96 00:05:04,036 --> 00:05:05,979 who got a call from the mayor. 97 00:05:06,004 --> 00:05:08,137 So we are going to investigate. 98 00:05:08,162 --> 00:05:09,393 We don't even know who this girl is. 99 00:05:09,418 --> 00:05:11,065 America's Worst Crimes does. 100 00:05:11,090 --> 00:05:13,391 Don't make me talk to reporters. 101 00:05:13,721 --> 00:05:16,002 _ 102 00:05:16,060 --> 00:05:17,221 Detectives. 103 00:05:17,246 --> 00:05:19,385 I'm guessing you're here about the Hudson story. 104 00:05:19,410 --> 00:05:21,143 Yeah, well, you got everybody talking, 105 00:05:21,168 --> 00:05:23,168 - including our bosses. - Well, that's gratifying. 106 00:05:23,193 --> 00:05:26,146 And not just the Peabody buzz, but for AWC to be in a position 107 00:05:26,171 --> 00:05:28,804 to amplify what's going on behind those Ivy walls. 108 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:30,846 Yeah, well, you amplify, we investigate. 109 00:05:30,871 --> 00:05:32,385 So we're going to need to talk to Jane. 110 00:05:32,410 --> 00:05:33,885 Well, I'd love to help, 111 00:05:33,910 --> 00:05:35,685 especially with what that girl had to suffer through. 112 00:05:35,710 --> 00:05:37,343 But I can't give you her name. 113 00:05:37,368 --> 00:05:39,168 Your report says she was gang-raped. 114 00:05:39,318 --> 00:05:41,165 Now's not the time to hide behind the first amendment. 115 00:05:41,236 --> 00:05:43,213 I'm not falling on my journalistic sword. 116 00:05:43,238 --> 00:05:45,705 The only way Jane would talk was if I promised her anonymity. 117 00:05:45,730 --> 00:05:47,830 She's scared to death of those fraternity boys. 118 00:05:47,855 --> 00:05:49,455 We can find a judge who will compel you 119 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,313 to hand over your sources and raw footage. 120 00:05:51,338 --> 00:05:53,628 All right, look, I'll kick the footage request upstairs. 121 00:05:53,653 --> 00:05:55,086 That's not my call. 122 00:05:55,111 --> 00:05:56,910 As for Jane, I can put you in touch 123 00:05:56,935 --> 00:05:58,531 with the woman who shopped me the story. 124 00:05:58,556 --> 00:06:01,724 Maybe she can convince Jane to talk to NYPD. 125 00:06:01,749 --> 00:06:03,602 Come on. 126 00:06:04,775 --> 00:06:06,616 _ 127 00:06:06,641 --> 00:06:08,586 Really insightful work, Emma. 128 00:06:08,755 --> 00:06:10,555 Professor Dillon? Hey. 129 00:06:10,580 --> 00:06:13,481 Detectives Rollins and Detective Carisi. 130 00:06:13,506 --> 00:06:14,713 We're from SVU. 131 00:06:14,738 --> 00:06:16,338 - How can I help? - We just, um... 132 00:06:16,363 --> 00:06:18,013 We wanted to talk to you for a minute 133 00:06:18,038 --> 00:06:20,472 about the AWC segment last night. 134 00:06:20,497 --> 00:06:23,469 Sure. I thought it was important, what they did. 135 00:06:23,494 --> 00:06:25,428 I'm glad they started the dialogue. 136 00:06:25,463 --> 00:06:26,862 Hey, listen, we were hoping that you could 137 00:06:26,898 --> 00:06:28,426 get us in touch with... with Jane. 138 00:06:28,451 --> 00:06:30,109 The reporter said you introduced them. 139 00:06:30,134 --> 00:06:32,658 I thought it was crucial her story be heard. 140 00:06:32,683 --> 00:06:36,392 But Jane already tried to disclose once, to the school. 141 00:06:36,417 --> 00:06:37,892 You heard how that turned out. 142 00:06:37,917 --> 00:06:39,392 Look, whatever happened between the victim... 143 00:06:39,417 --> 00:06:40,849 survivor. 144 00:06:41,063 --> 00:06:42,836 Okay, the survivor and the university, 145 00:06:42,861 --> 00:06:44,095 that's got nothing to do with us. 146 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,296 You have to understand, 147 00:06:45,321 --> 00:06:47,033 this woman is still extremely fragile. 148 00:06:47,058 --> 00:06:49,228 To subject her to harsh scrutiny, 149 00:06:49,253 --> 00:06:51,766 - the legal system... - All due respect, Professor, 150 00:06:51,791 --> 00:06:52,989 obviously we'd like to go through you, 151 00:06:53,014 --> 00:06:54,413 but if you're just gonna get in the way, 152 00:06:54,438 --> 00:06:56,071 we'll go over or around you. 153 00:06:56,137 --> 00:06:59,472 Interesting phallocentric choice of language, Detective. 154 00:06:59,497 --> 00:07:02,798 My partner is still a work in progress. 155 00:07:02,823 --> 00:07:06,435 Listen, we all know that something terrible 156 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:08,427 happened to Jane. 157 00:07:08,539 --> 00:07:10,673 We don't want these guys to get away with it. 158 00:07:10,698 --> 00:07:12,665 I hear you. I do. 159 00:07:12,690 --> 00:07:16,436 I just don't think that Jane wants to deal with any of this. 160 00:07:17,182 --> 00:07:19,316 But I'll give her a call. 161 00:07:21,623 --> 00:07:23,757 I see. 162 00:07:23,878 --> 00:07:25,912 All right, thank you very much. 163 00:07:29,527 --> 00:07:30,993 That was Professor Dillon. 164 00:07:31,029 --> 00:07:33,121 Jane says she's not going to talk to us. 165 00:07:33,227 --> 00:07:36,094 That she'll come forward when and where she wants. 166 00:07:36,119 --> 00:07:37,020 What does that mean? 167 00:07:37,045 --> 00:07:38,821 She's scared to make an official complaint. 168 00:07:38,846 --> 00:07:40,513 And knowing what we know, 169 00:07:40,715 --> 00:07:41,990 I can't blame her. 170 00:07:42,015 --> 00:07:43,815 So that leaves us where? 171 00:07:44,029 --> 00:07:45,395 Back at square one. 172 00:07:45,877 --> 00:07:47,591 Dillon's no help. 173 00:07:47,754 --> 00:07:49,390 Hey, speaking of which, 174 00:07:49,490 --> 00:07:52,690 what was that crack about me still being a work in progress? 175 00:07:52,715 --> 00:07:55,552 Oh, come on, Carisi. The lady's a rape advocate. 176 00:07:55,626 --> 00:07:57,669 She's got a chip about male detectives. 177 00:07:57,694 --> 00:08:01,116 I figured I could earn her trust if I align myself with her. 178 00:08:01,461 --> 00:08:03,569 Hmm. Rape advocate. 179 00:08:03,594 --> 00:08:05,227 I don't even get what that is. 180 00:08:05,252 --> 00:08:06,918 I mean, there's no burglary advocate. 181 00:08:06,943 --> 00:08:09,173 There's no carjacking advocates. 182 00:08:09,676 --> 00:08:12,067 When's the last time a carjacking victim got asked, 183 00:08:12,092 --> 00:08:14,393 "are you sure you didn't want your car to get stolen?" 184 00:08:14,739 --> 00:08:16,539 Okay, I get that. 185 00:08:16,574 --> 00:08:17,954 - Hmm. - All right. 186 00:08:17,979 --> 00:08:19,349 But still, she's just getting in our way. 187 00:08:19,374 --> 00:08:22,535 Yeah, well, that's SVU. Get used to it. 188 00:08:26,684 --> 00:08:28,884 - Where are you going? - Back to campus. 189 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,687 I don't want to tell the sarge we came up empty-handed. 190 00:08:36,286 --> 00:08:38,286 No comment. 191 00:08:38,311 --> 00:08:40,411 Yes. 192 00:08:40,436 --> 00:08:41,908 Okay, good. 193 00:08:41,933 --> 00:08:43,248 Grazie, ciao. 194 00:08:43,273 --> 00:08:45,707 No comment to the Italian press? They're on this already? 195 00:08:45,732 --> 00:08:48,299 I got to tell you, bad news in New York travels fast. 196 00:08:48,324 --> 00:08:50,814 I mean, there are already Twitter campaigns, 197 00:08:50,839 --> 00:08:54,413 calls for campus rallies and revoking the frat's charter. 198 00:08:54,438 --> 00:08:56,638 Which explains why the mayor and the D.A. are all over this. 199 00:08:56,663 --> 00:08:57,713 And me. 200 00:08:57,738 --> 00:08:59,575 So have you managed to ID Jane yet? 201 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,966 Look, Carisi's still trying, 202 00:09:00,991 --> 00:09:03,285 but the closest he and Rollins have gotten 203 00:09:03,310 --> 00:09:07,715 is Jane's self-proclaimed advocate, Professor Dillon. 204 00:09:07,740 --> 00:09:09,103 She's going to produce Jane? 205 00:09:09,128 --> 00:09:10,012 No. 206 00:09:10,037 --> 00:09:13,207 Look, Jane is scared of fraternity retribution 207 00:09:13,232 --> 00:09:14,294 if she goes public. 208 00:09:14,319 --> 00:09:16,394 And she doesn't trust the police. 209 00:09:16,419 --> 00:09:17,918 So she's not going to talk? 210 00:09:17,968 --> 00:09:20,294 I could subpoena the show or this professor. 211 00:09:20,319 --> 00:09:22,200 There's got to be an easier way. 212 00:09:22,225 --> 00:09:24,192 Jane said on the AWC piece 213 00:09:24,217 --> 00:09:25,850 that she disclosed to the university. 214 00:09:25,875 --> 00:09:27,774 But they didn't specify to whom. 215 00:09:27,946 --> 00:09:30,078 So let's go to the top and find out. 216 00:09:30,103 --> 00:09:31,368 Okay. You want me to come with? 217 00:09:31,393 --> 00:09:32,479 Not necessary. 218 00:09:32,504 --> 00:09:35,779 President Roberts and I have history. 219 00:09:36,842 --> 00:09:39,014 _ 220 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:41,717 I'm assuming this is about that broadcast? 221 00:09:41,742 --> 00:09:42,897 It is. 222 00:09:42,922 --> 00:09:45,490 So the victim said that she was shut down 223 00:09:45,530 --> 00:09:46,784 by the university. 224 00:09:46,809 --> 00:09:48,008 Do you know who she spoke to? 225 00:09:48,033 --> 00:09:50,210 - I do. She spoke to me. - Oh. 226 00:09:50,235 --> 00:09:52,288 I followed the department of education 227 00:09:52,313 --> 00:09:54,573 sexual assault protocols to the letter. 228 00:09:54,598 --> 00:09:56,098 And yet, here we are 229 00:09:56,123 --> 00:09:58,613 investigating an unreported gang-rape 230 00:09:58,638 --> 00:09:59,835 that occurred on your watch. 231 00:09:59,860 --> 00:10:02,736 The first I heard of any gang was on that show. 232 00:10:02,761 --> 00:10:04,094 When she came to me, 233 00:10:04,127 --> 00:10:05,760 she mentioned only one individual. 234 00:10:05,785 --> 00:10:08,586 - And who was that? - I'm not at liberty to say. 235 00:10:08,611 --> 00:10:10,196 These reports are confidential. 236 00:10:10,221 --> 00:10:11,598 It's university policy. 237 00:10:11,623 --> 00:10:16,398 That anonymity ceases to exist when a crime has been committed. 238 00:10:16,423 --> 00:10:18,290 What exactly did she say? 239 00:10:18,315 --> 00:10:20,649 What she described was regrettable drunken sex. 240 00:10:20,674 --> 00:10:21,497 Not rape. 241 00:10:21,522 --> 00:10:23,776 With four men holding her down? 242 00:10:23,801 --> 00:10:26,569 She mentioned one student only. 243 00:10:26,971 --> 00:10:29,205 She admitted she was intoxicated. 244 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,822 She went willingly back to the fraternity with her date. 245 00:10:32,847 --> 00:10:35,414 I asked her whether she was sure the sex wasn't consensual. 246 00:10:35,439 --> 00:10:37,639 She proceeded to become defensive, 247 00:10:37,664 --> 00:10:39,121 and then she left my office. 248 00:10:39,146 --> 00:10:41,279 And you didn't bother to talk to her "date"? 249 00:10:41,351 --> 00:10:42,817 Actually, I did. 250 00:10:42,842 --> 00:10:44,909 He said the sex was consensual. 251 00:10:45,189 --> 00:10:47,823 He seemed credible, he's well-regarded, 252 00:10:47,859 --> 00:10:49,472 and has no prior complaints. 253 00:10:49,497 --> 00:10:50,572 That was that. 254 00:10:50,597 --> 00:10:52,545 The next I heard of this was last night 255 00:10:52,570 --> 00:10:54,756 when we were blindsided on national television. 256 00:10:54,781 --> 00:10:56,872 Well, now that these allegations have been made, 257 00:10:56,897 --> 00:10:59,479 I will need her name and the name of the student 258 00:10:59,504 --> 00:11:01,053 that she claims attacked her. 259 00:11:01,078 --> 00:11:03,045 We are all Jane! 260 00:11:03,070 --> 00:11:06,171 We are all Jane! We are all Jane! 261 00:11:06,196 --> 00:11:07,852 So... 262 00:11:08,003 --> 00:11:10,251 She hasn't come to you. 263 00:11:10,548 --> 00:11:12,229 Which means, whatever happened, 264 00:11:12,254 --> 00:11:14,330 she hasn't filed a criminal complaint, 265 00:11:14,354 --> 00:11:16,564 which means my responsibility remains 266 00:11:16,589 --> 00:11:20,164 protecting the confidentiality of both students. 267 00:11:20,386 --> 00:11:21,852 We are all Jane! 268 00:11:21,877 --> 00:11:24,744 We are all Jane! We are all Jane! 269 00:11:24,769 --> 00:11:26,464 We are all Jane! 270 00:11:26,493 --> 00:11:29,995 We are all Jane! We are all Jane! 271 00:11:30,611 --> 00:11:32,545 Excuse me. 272 00:11:32,570 --> 00:11:34,863 I have a firestorm on my hands. 273 00:11:34,888 --> 00:11:36,187 We are all Jane! 274 00:11:36,212 --> 00:11:38,017 We are all Jane! 275 00:11:38,042 --> 00:11:40,144 - Hey, Sarge. - Hey. 276 00:11:40,169 --> 00:11:42,269 So far on campus nobody's been any help. 277 00:11:42,547 --> 00:11:44,206 Get anywhere with president Roberts? 278 00:11:44,231 --> 00:11:45,469 You know, it's the usual. 279 00:11:45,494 --> 00:11:47,728 First she blames the victim a little bit, 280 00:11:47,753 --> 00:11:49,305 and then she hides behind the cloak 281 00:11:49,330 --> 00:11:51,106 of protecting the students' confidentiality. 282 00:11:51,131 --> 00:11:53,206 So we still don't even know who the girl is? 283 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,665 - No idea. - I was told that 284 00:11:55,690 --> 00:11:58,567 if my rapist made me feel uncomfortable, 285 00:11:58,592 --> 00:12:02,894 I could switch classes or move to another dorm. 286 00:12:03,144 --> 00:12:05,498 I kept my mouth shut, 287 00:12:05,523 --> 00:12:09,397 and he graduated with honors last June. 288 00:12:10,841 --> 00:12:12,569 Now, for the first time, 289 00:12:12,594 --> 00:12:16,062 I'm speaking my truth, because of Jane. 290 00:12:21,134 --> 00:12:22,800 Thank you. 291 00:12:22,825 --> 00:12:26,632 All your stories have been so powerful. 292 00:12:26,657 --> 00:12:30,993 There is one last survivor who wants to share her story. 293 00:12:31,028 --> 00:12:34,468 She's someone you already know. 294 00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:45,225 Hi. 295 00:12:45,250 --> 00:12:48,751 Um, my name is Heather Manning. 296 00:12:52,665 --> 00:12:54,478 I-I am the real Jane. 297 00:13:03,761 --> 00:13:05,958 I want to tell you my story. 298 00:13:07,305 --> 00:13:08,971 So much for anonymity. 299 00:13:08,996 --> 00:13:10,056 Yeah. 300 00:13:20,599 --> 00:13:21,891 Heather. 301 00:13:22,335 --> 00:13:24,401 Thank you so much for coming in. 302 00:13:24,437 --> 00:13:27,538 I hope you realize this does not mean we're pressing charges. 303 00:13:27,573 --> 00:13:29,954 - "We"? - You know, Professor Dillon, 304 00:13:29,979 --> 00:13:32,446 we think it's probably best if we speak with Heather alone. 305 00:13:33,063 --> 00:13:35,589 Actually, Sergeant, could you and I talk? 306 00:13:35,614 --> 00:13:37,280 Um, sure. 307 00:13:37,305 --> 00:13:38,794 - Okay. - This way. 308 00:13:38,819 --> 00:13:41,119 We just... we just want to get Heather's side of the story. 309 00:13:41,144 --> 00:13:44,312 I was worried about bringing Heather to the police, 310 00:13:44,533 --> 00:13:46,967 being re-traumatized. 311 00:13:46,992 --> 00:13:49,259 But I've spoken to others in the community, 312 00:13:49,294 --> 00:13:50,911 and they've all said that if anyone's 313 00:13:50,936 --> 00:13:53,730 going to protect a survivor, it's you. 314 00:13:53,755 --> 00:13:57,211 I will. And I promise you that I will look after her. 315 00:13:57,236 --> 00:14:00,370 Heather was clear about wanting me to sit in with her. 316 00:14:00,395 --> 00:14:02,729 She doesn't know you, but she trusts me. 317 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:07,794 December 12th. I was on a date 318 00:14:07,826 --> 00:14:10,327 with an Alpha Zeta Pi hockey player. 319 00:14:14,419 --> 00:14:16,486 Brian Mackey. 320 00:14:16,511 --> 00:14:17,977 He's the team captain. 321 00:14:18,002 --> 00:14:20,202 And... and the date was at his frat? 322 00:14:20,227 --> 00:14:21,459 No, no. 323 00:14:21,527 --> 00:14:22,893 First we went to a bar, 324 00:14:22,928 --> 00:14:25,195 and then we went back to the house. 325 00:14:25,230 --> 00:14:27,297 We were making out in the hallway 326 00:14:27,332 --> 00:14:29,831 when he pulled me into his room. 327 00:14:30,271 --> 00:14:32,232 Three guys were waiting. 328 00:14:33,937 --> 00:14:36,018 And they jumped me. 329 00:14:36,275 --> 00:14:38,276 Like a pack. 330 00:14:38,362 --> 00:14:40,662 And Brian led you in? 331 00:14:40,687 --> 00:14:42,420 He was in charge. 332 00:14:42,445 --> 00:14:46,347 He had two guys hold my legs while he held my arms. 333 00:14:46,662 --> 00:14:48,362 And did you know the others? 334 00:14:49,343 --> 00:14:51,908 His buddies from the hockey team. 335 00:14:52,234 --> 00:14:55,402 I-I'm not sure I want to tell you their names. 336 00:14:55,427 --> 00:14:57,928 Okay. Okay, well, we... we can get back to that. 337 00:14:57,963 --> 00:14:59,533 No problem. 338 00:14:59,558 --> 00:15:02,075 And you were sure that there were four men? 339 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:03,500 Yes. 340 00:15:03,525 --> 00:15:05,713 Okay, because President Roberts 341 00:15:05,738 --> 00:15:07,845 told us that you only mentioned one. 342 00:15:07,870 --> 00:15:10,838 President Roberts blamed Heather. 343 00:15:11,086 --> 00:15:13,787 She didn't feel safe disclosing to her. 344 00:15:13,812 --> 00:15:15,745 Well, you're safe here, Heather. 345 00:15:15,781 --> 00:15:17,414 Okay? 346 00:15:17,449 --> 00:15:20,050 All right, so what happened next? 347 00:15:20,085 --> 00:15:22,185 Um... 348 00:15:22,696 --> 00:15:26,668 Then they took turns raping me. 349 00:15:28,113 --> 00:15:30,569 Sodomizing me. 350 00:15:31,773 --> 00:15:33,540 Um, sorry. 351 00:15:33,565 --> 00:15:35,371 Go ahead. 352 00:15:35,396 --> 00:15:37,954 We didn't talk about this part on TV. 353 00:15:38,089 --> 00:15:39,997 They used an object. 354 00:15:40,616 --> 00:15:42,997 The handle of a hockey stick. 355 00:15:43,452 --> 00:15:45,752 And then... 356 00:15:45,777 --> 00:15:49,012 And they high-fived each other and they left me there. 357 00:15:54,653 --> 00:15:57,153 When I tried to pull myself together and leave, 358 00:15:57,189 --> 00:16:00,223 the other guys in the frat threw beer cans at me 359 00:16:00,258 --> 00:16:04,072 and they yelled at me to go to church. 360 00:16:04,097 --> 00:16:06,573 They said that I should call my dad and apologize 361 00:16:06,598 --> 00:16:08,408 for ruining his life. 362 00:16:09,034 --> 00:16:10,567 It was so horrible. 363 00:16:10,602 --> 00:16:11,968 Did you tell anyone? 364 00:16:12,004 --> 00:16:14,504 Did you tell your parents or your roommate? 365 00:16:14,539 --> 00:16:16,573 My parents still don't know. 366 00:16:16,608 --> 00:16:18,108 Why is that? 367 00:16:18,143 --> 00:16:20,510 They're in the Central African Republic, 368 00:16:20,545 --> 00:16:22,232 fighting malaria. 369 00:16:22,257 --> 00:16:24,931 Did you go to the doctor? 370 00:16:25,499 --> 00:16:28,100 Is there anyone to corroborate? 371 00:16:28,260 --> 00:16:29,978 Show them the text, Heather. 372 00:16:30,019 --> 00:16:31,452 Oh. Um... 373 00:16:31,477 --> 00:16:33,811 Brian sent me a text. 374 00:16:35,970 --> 00:16:37,814 His attempt at an apology. 375 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:38,986 Here. 376 00:16:39,130 --> 00:16:41,076 "Sorry about last night. 377 00:16:41,101 --> 00:16:42,447 "My boys were out of control. 378 00:16:42,472 --> 00:16:44,400 But you deserve better than what they did." 379 00:16:44,425 --> 00:16:45,791 This is great, Heather. 380 00:16:45,816 --> 00:16:49,084 So is there any other physical evidence? 381 00:16:49,109 --> 00:16:51,501 Like, maybe the clothes you were wearing? 382 00:16:51,526 --> 00:16:53,760 Anything like that? 383 00:16:53,836 --> 00:16:56,329 Um, actually, one of the guys 384 00:16:56,354 --> 00:16:58,230 handed me my panties back 385 00:16:58,255 --> 00:17:01,890 before class that Monday, just to humiliate me. 386 00:17:01,915 --> 00:17:03,930 And you kept them? 387 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,681 I shoved them in my backpack, 388 00:17:06,706 --> 00:17:08,639 and then I threw them in my drawer when I got home. 389 00:17:08,664 --> 00:17:10,447 - They might still be there. - Okay, good. 390 00:17:10,472 --> 00:17:14,847 So if you decide to give us the other boys' names, 391 00:17:14,872 --> 00:17:18,204 that will be enough to get a DNA sample. 392 00:17:18,976 --> 00:17:21,708 It... it still won't be easy. 393 00:17:21,933 --> 00:17:23,847 No. It's okay. 394 00:17:23,890 --> 00:17:26,157 I want to. 395 00:17:26,645 --> 00:17:28,645 After the rally, all those other women 396 00:17:28,670 --> 00:17:30,436 need to know that they can do this too. 397 00:17:32,526 --> 00:17:33,884 Okay. 398 00:17:36,411 --> 00:17:38,511 The other names were Connor Howell, 399 00:17:38,536 --> 00:17:41,537 Lance Mosconi, and Zach Franklin. 400 00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:44,002 All on the hockey team. 401 00:17:47,088 --> 00:17:49,876 _ 402 00:17:56,006 --> 00:17:57,506 This is where it happened. 403 00:17:58,057 --> 00:17:59,857 Pick up all cell phones, laptops, 404 00:17:59,882 --> 00:18:01,631 bedding, and hockey sticks. 405 00:18:04,579 --> 00:18:06,697 - NYPD. - Glad to see you, Officers. 406 00:18:06,722 --> 00:18:08,134 You here about the brick coming through the window? 407 00:18:08,159 --> 00:18:09,334 Nice try. 408 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,013 IDs, now. Turn that music off. 409 00:18:12,038 --> 00:18:14,611 All right, we're looking for Howell, Mackey, 410 00:18:14,636 --> 00:18:16,220 Mosconi, and Franklin. 411 00:18:16,245 --> 00:18:18,675 Yes, Sir! Ma'am. 412 00:18:18,700 --> 00:18:20,948 Guys, STFU. Come on. I'm Brian Mackey. 413 00:18:20,973 --> 00:18:22,239 This is Connor Howell, 414 00:18:22,264 --> 00:18:23,763 Lance Mosconi. 415 00:18:23,788 --> 00:18:24,925 Franklin's out of the country. 416 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:26,401 Thank you. We have a warrant 417 00:18:26,426 --> 00:18:27,409 to search the premises, 418 00:18:27,434 --> 00:18:29,901 which means all of you stay put. 419 00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:36,146 Somebody wants to hear my side of the story? That's a first. 420 00:18:36,181 --> 00:18:37,881 Brian, between you and me, there have been a lot of women 421 00:18:37,916 --> 00:18:39,315 doing a lot of talking. 422 00:18:39,351 --> 00:18:42,018 And sometimes, as guys, our side gets lost. 423 00:18:42,054 --> 00:18:43,787 And I just want to hear yours. 424 00:18:43,822 --> 00:18:45,555 Heather and I had sex. 425 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:47,157 Consensual. 426 00:18:47,192 --> 00:18:49,292 Now, this went away months ago. And now she goes on TV? 427 00:18:49,327 --> 00:18:50,694 Had Brian been dating Heather for a while? 428 00:18:50,729 --> 00:18:53,063 Heather has wanted the business from Brian since rush week. 429 00:18:53,098 --> 00:18:54,664 He finally threw her a bone. 430 00:18:54,707 --> 00:18:56,284 Eight inches of it, brah. 431 00:18:56,309 --> 00:18:57,741 How do you know? 432 00:18:57,766 --> 00:18:59,265 You watch? 433 00:18:59,290 --> 00:19:01,248 Heather wanted to stay and snuggle. 434 00:19:01,273 --> 00:19:03,640 But I was kind of done. 435 00:19:03,675 --> 00:19:05,642 So she just left? 436 00:19:05,687 --> 00:19:10,290 No, I did. She was upset. You know, girls. 437 00:19:10,315 --> 00:19:12,148 Middle of the night, she does her walk of shame. 438 00:19:12,173 --> 00:19:14,473 She kind of had to run the gauntlet. 439 00:19:14,498 --> 00:19:16,891 What are we talking about? 440 00:19:17,275 --> 00:19:19,591 You call her a whore, you throw things. 441 00:19:19,616 --> 00:19:21,749 We didn't hurt her. 442 00:19:21,774 --> 00:19:23,463 Can't take the heat, don't be a thot. 443 00:19:23,488 --> 00:19:24,921 You have sex with her? 444 00:19:24,946 --> 00:19:26,970 And pick up Mackey's scraps? 445 00:19:26,995 --> 00:19:28,377 I don't think so. 446 00:19:28,402 --> 00:19:30,102 We're the ones getting screwed here, all right? 447 00:19:30,127 --> 00:19:32,814 Search warrants, a fricking vigil outside? 448 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:34,748 Nobody raped this girl. 449 00:19:34,773 --> 00:19:37,107 Okay, well, that search warrant 450 00:19:37,142 --> 00:19:39,014 includes collecting your DNA. 451 00:19:41,823 --> 00:19:43,155 Open up. 452 00:19:44,810 --> 00:19:46,577 How was the boys' club? 453 00:19:46,602 --> 00:19:49,002 Gamey. They're the victims. 454 00:19:49,027 --> 00:19:51,827 She's a whore that woke up with regrets. 455 00:19:51,852 --> 00:19:53,700 Anybody admit to consensual sex? 456 00:19:53,725 --> 00:19:56,359 Brian Mackey. Connor and Lance deny. 457 00:19:56,394 --> 00:19:57,694 And what about the fourth assailant? 458 00:19:57,729 --> 00:19:59,095 Zach Franklin. He's 20. 459 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,913 He's a multi-sport scholar athlete. 460 00:20:00,938 --> 00:20:03,043 He's on a culture tour of Cuba right now. 461 00:20:03,068 --> 00:20:05,068 - Can we get him back? - From Cuba? 462 00:20:05,093 --> 00:20:08,561 Sarge, Taru just found a video that Connor made that night. 463 00:20:08,586 --> 00:20:09,983 He erased it from his cell, but they found it 464 00:20:10,008 --> 00:20:11,207 on his computer's hard drive. 465 00:20:11,243 --> 00:20:13,256 You're gonna want to see this. 466 00:20:14,605 --> 00:20:16,943 Go to church! Go to church! 467 00:20:16,968 --> 00:20:21,716 Go to church! Go to church! Go to church! 468 00:20:21,749 --> 00:20:25,717 This has been another Connor Howell slut-shaming video. 469 00:20:26,335 --> 00:20:28,235 That's harassment. 470 00:20:28,260 --> 00:20:30,160 It's ugly, but it's not assault. 471 00:20:30,185 --> 00:20:33,153 We have semen matching Connor and Brian's DNA 472 00:20:33,198 --> 00:20:35,017 on Heather's underwear. 473 00:20:35,042 --> 00:20:36,375 Anything on the hockey sticks? 474 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,000 Well, not after three months, 475 00:20:38,025 --> 00:20:41,273 but between Brian's text and Heather's testimony, 476 00:20:41,298 --> 00:20:42,334 you got enough. 477 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,660 Enough for probable cause. 478 00:20:43,685 --> 00:20:44,992 Everyone wants these guys put away, 479 00:20:45,017 --> 00:20:46,591 but this case is three months cold. 480 00:20:46,616 --> 00:20:47,765 No rape kit. 481 00:20:47,790 --> 00:20:50,357 Heather's initial disclosure mentioned only one assailant. 482 00:20:50,382 --> 00:20:51,865 President Roberts shut her down. 483 00:20:51,890 --> 00:20:54,865 She can be extremely intimidating, believe me. 484 00:20:56,026 --> 00:20:57,817 Heather knows what she's in for? 485 00:21:01,087 --> 00:21:03,220 Bring in the hockey team. 486 00:21:03,245 --> 00:21:06,379 There was no gang-rape, okay? 487 00:21:06,404 --> 00:21:07,870 No assault. 488 00:21:07,895 --> 00:21:09,895 Then why text her this? 489 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,640 "My boys were out of control. 490 00:21:11,665 --> 00:21:13,648 You deserve better than what they did"? 491 00:21:13,673 --> 00:21:15,373 Look, I know the guys, you know, like, 492 00:21:15,398 --> 00:21:17,765 messed with her on the way out. 493 00:21:17,937 --> 00:21:19,337 I felt badly. 494 00:21:19,362 --> 00:21:21,031 The guys? You were there too. 495 00:21:21,056 --> 00:21:23,101 That text was to check in on a friend. 496 00:21:23,126 --> 00:21:24,343 That's not proof of a criminal act. 497 00:21:24,368 --> 00:21:25,768 How about the others, Brian? 498 00:21:25,793 --> 00:21:27,042 We have DNA proof 499 00:21:27,067 --> 00:21:28,234 that you weren't the only one. 500 00:21:28,259 --> 00:21:31,334 You do? Then talk to them. 501 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,298 Not me. I told you, 502 00:21:33,323 --> 00:21:35,703 I don't want to be Brian's Eskimo brother. 503 00:21:35,728 --> 00:21:36,671 You're lying, Connor. 504 00:21:36,696 --> 00:21:38,218 We have your DNA on Heather Manning's underwear 505 00:21:38,243 --> 00:21:40,549 - from that night. - My DNA's all over that place. 506 00:21:40,574 --> 00:21:41,259 I live there. 507 00:21:41,284 --> 00:21:44,140 This underwear has an evidentiary chain of custody 508 00:21:44,165 --> 00:21:46,198 - from three months ago? - Ask your client. 509 00:21:46,223 --> 00:21:48,770 He handed it back to her in class, 510 00:21:48,795 --> 00:21:50,270 in front of 20 students. 511 00:21:50,295 --> 00:21:52,070 Which explains the DNA, doesn't it? 512 00:21:52,095 --> 00:21:53,861 Doesn't explain his semen. 513 00:21:55,340 --> 00:21:57,046 Lance, there's a reason that you're here, 514 00:21:57,071 --> 00:21:59,345 and those other guys are in the box. 515 00:22:00,103 --> 00:22:01,836 Because I didn't do anything? 516 00:22:01,861 --> 00:22:03,845 Yeah, that's right. I mean, you just... you watched. 517 00:22:03,870 --> 00:22:05,570 No, I wasn't even in the room with her. 518 00:22:05,595 --> 00:22:06,539 Okay? I swear. 519 00:22:06,564 --> 00:22:09,187 Well, today's your lucky day, because if you tell me 520 00:22:09,212 --> 00:22:11,545 who was in the room, you could walk. 521 00:22:14,695 --> 00:22:16,495 You called Cuba? 522 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,419 It's not like I have pull there. 523 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:20,336 Zach Franklin will be arrested when he returns 524 00:22:20,361 --> 00:22:22,428 - to American soil. - If he does. 525 00:22:25,736 --> 00:22:28,312 Hey, Connor, I was just telling detective Rollins here 526 00:22:28,337 --> 00:22:29,911 that we don't need to talk to you anymore. 527 00:22:29,936 --> 00:22:31,569 Between the DNA and one of your buddies 528 00:22:31,594 --> 00:22:33,507 putting you in the room with Heather, you're done. 529 00:22:39,819 --> 00:22:41,217 Okay, look, I didn't want to say this before, 530 00:22:41,242 --> 00:22:42,414 because I thought it would look bad. 531 00:22:42,439 --> 00:22:43,211 Mm-hmm? 532 00:22:43,236 --> 00:22:44,810 But after she finished with Brian, 533 00:22:44,835 --> 00:22:46,781 she moved on to me like that. 534 00:22:46,806 --> 00:22:48,914 Her idea. Totally consensual. 535 00:22:48,939 --> 00:22:50,867 I didn't rape her. 536 00:22:50,899 --> 00:22:52,232 Ask Brian. 537 00:22:52,257 --> 00:22:55,256 So he was there? He saw you? 538 00:22:59,194 --> 00:23:02,996 Oh, Brian, you forgot to tell us about your boy Connor. 539 00:23:03,021 --> 00:23:04,954 - What is this about? - Connor just admitted 540 00:23:04,979 --> 00:23:07,370 that he had sex with Heather right after you did. 541 00:23:07,395 --> 00:23:08,792 How is that my client's problem? 542 00:23:08,817 --> 00:23:11,492 He said that you knew about it, which means you lied to us. 543 00:23:13,263 --> 00:23:14,601 So what else you been lying about? 544 00:23:14,626 --> 00:23:16,401 Brian, you don't need to answer any more questions. 545 00:23:16,426 --> 00:23:18,626 No, I want to explain. I did see Connor with her, but she w... 546 00:23:18,651 --> 00:23:19,884 enough. 547 00:23:20,194 --> 00:23:22,261 Let him finish. 548 00:23:23,796 --> 00:23:26,497 For her to be acting all prim and proper now? 549 00:23:27,191 --> 00:23:29,131 She wants to act the whore on Saturday 550 00:23:29,156 --> 00:23:30,530 and play the virgin on Sunday. 551 00:23:30,669 --> 00:23:32,030 There you have it. 552 00:23:32,055 --> 00:23:34,662 Detectives, so far we've extended every courtesy. 553 00:23:34,687 --> 00:23:36,046 But now it's time for us to go. 554 00:23:36,071 --> 00:23:39,170 Or let's say you could sign this, we could keep talking, 555 00:23:39,195 --> 00:23:40,361 and you can tell us your side. 556 00:23:40,471 --> 00:23:42,842 And maybe we could clear this whole thing up 557 00:23:42,867 --> 00:23:45,342 without it having to go into the system, okay? 558 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:49,625 A temporary arraignment waiver? Get out of here with that. 559 00:23:49,650 --> 00:23:52,547 Unless my client's under arrest, we're leaving. 560 00:23:53,925 --> 00:23:55,992 Okay, you two stay here. 561 00:23:56,199 --> 00:23:58,533 I'll see what my D.A. wants to do. 562 00:24:00,655 --> 00:24:02,373 All three turned down the waiver. 563 00:24:02,398 --> 00:24:03,920 Their lawyers think letting them talk's just going 564 00:24:03,945 --> 00:24:06,076 - to make things worse. - Good. Arraign them. 565 00:24:06,101 --> 00:24:07,568 The deeper into the system they get, 566 00:24:07,593 --> 00:24:08,537 the harder it is to pull them out. 567 00:24:08,562 --> 00:24:10,389 All right, we'll load them up now. 568 00:24:10,414 --> 00:24:12,919 You know what? Hold up a half-hour. 569 00:24:12,944 --> 00:24:16,246 Connor's a handsome boy with a smug smile. 570 00:24:16,928 --> 00:24:19,388 Be good to get that face on the 11:00 news. 571 00:24:21,153 --> 00:24:23,487 All right, here he comes. 572 00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:25,986 Hey, Bri? 573 00:24:26,151 --> 00:24:28,065 Hey, Brian, this way. Come here, Brian. 574 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:29,838 Are you going to plead guilty? 575 00:24:30,307 --> 00:24:33,174 Connor, Brian, why did you rape Jane? 576 00:24:37,034 --> 00:24:38,413 Are you the ringleader? 577 00:24:38,438 --> 00:24:40,038 You guys were involved, Connor! 578 00:24:40,063 --> 00:24:42,026 Do you realize what you guys did? 579 00:24:47,095 --> 00:24:49,063 With us this morning is Skip Peterson. 580 00:24:49,098 --> 00:24:52,041 He has an update now on that shocking story 581 00:24:52,066 --> 00:24:53,899 of a gang-rape at Hudson University. 582 00:24:53,924 --> 00:24:56,531 Skip, welcome. I understand that the school 583 00:24:56,556 --> 00:24:59,158 has since suspended all fraternity activities? 584 00:24:59,183 --> 00:25:01,188 Yes they have, and last night NYPD 585 00:25:01,213 --> 00:25:03,614 arrested and arraigned three of the accused rapists: 586 00:25:03,639 --> 00:25:06,140 Brian Mackey, captain of the hockey team, 587 00:25:06,173 --> 00:25:09,916 and his teammates Connor Howell and Lance Mosconi. 588 00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:12,907 And you had a chance to talk to the victim, Jane? 589 00:25:12,932 --> 00:25:14,389 She's now bravely come forward. 590 00:25:14,414 --> 00:25:15,780 Her real name is Heather Manning. 591 00:25:15,805 --> 00:25:18,239 We caught up with her at a campus rally late last night. 592 00:25:18,264 --> 00:25:20,798 I am gratified to hear that three of the six men 593 00:25:20,823 --> 00:25:23,712 who attacked me were arrested tonight by NYPD. 594 00:25:25,061 --> 00:25:28,296 What they did that night was meant to dehumanize me. 595 00:25:28,533 --> 00:25:32,035 When they said, "who else wants to rape that?" 596 00:25:32,187 --> 00:25:34,411 They weren't just assaulting me. 597 00:25:34,635 --> 00:25:38,637 They were assaulting every woman on this campus. 598 00:25:38,805 --> 00:25:40,736 Did she just say six men raped her? 599 00:25:40,761 --> 00:25:42,136 I thought it was four. 600 00:25:42,161 --> 00:25:44,327 Maybe she's counting the guys in the video, 601 00:25:44,352 --> 00:25:45,951 the ones in the hall. 602 00:25:45,976 --> 00:25:47,891 I don't know. Something feels off. 603 00:25:47,916 --> 00:25:50,317 "Who else wants to rape that?" 604 00:25:50,354 --> 00:25:52,782 Does that sound like something even a frat boy would say? 605 00:25:52,807 --> 00:25:54,473 It's not what they said, it's what they did. 606 00:25:54,498 --> 00:25:55,704 DNA don't lie. 607 00:25:55,729 --> 00:25:57,595 And you say there's more information still to come? 608 00:25:57,620 --> 00:25:59,454 Sources have told me that police confiscated 609 00:25:59,479 --> 00:26:01,612 a video of the assault, and that hockey sticks 610 00:26:01,637 --> 00:26:04,048 used on her have tested positive for DNA. 611 00:26:04,073 --> 00:26:06,474 It's just horrifying. 612 00:26:06,499 --> 00:26:07,618 What about Heather? 613 00:26:07,643 --> 00:26:09,643 Her words are just so powerful. 614 00:26:09,959 --> 00:26:11,329 You told me they didn't find anything 615 00:26:11,354 --> 00:26:12,820 - on those hockey sticks. - They didn't. 616 00:26:12,845 --> 00:26:14,945 And there's no video of the assault. 617 00:26:15,229 --> 00:26:17,009 So who's his source? 618 00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:20,226 And why is Heather even giving an interview? 619 00:26:20,251 --> 00:26:21,783 She's gone from reluctant witness 620 00:26:21,808 --> 00:26:23,790 to being on every news show in 48 hours. 621 00:26:23,815 --> 00:26:26,211 Once you tell your story, it can be empowering. 622 00:26:26,236 --> 00:26:27,111 The floodgates open. 623 00:26:27,136 --> 00:26:29,134 They opened and let in two extra assailants. 624 00:26:29,159 --> 00:26:30,056 - She's up to six. - Right. 625 00:26:30,081 --> 00:26:33,356 When you're dealing with PTSD, things come back in pieces. 626 00:26:33,455 --> 00:26:35,155 I will talk to her. 627 00:26:36,135 --> 00:26:38,767 In no way is this about silencing you. 628 00:26:38,889 --> 00:26:40,867 But we're still making our case. 629 00:26:40,892 --> 00:26:44,460 And we need to know that the public speeches you've made 630 00:26:44,547 --> 00:26:47,466 won't contradict the statements you've made to us. 631 00:26:47,491 --> 00:26:49,157 People need to know what those boys did to her. 632 00:26:49,182 --> 00:26:53,167 Okay, but, first of all, let's get clear on the who. 633 00:26:53,192 --> 00:26:55,567 You know who they are. You arrested them. 634 00:26:55,592 --> 00:26:57,954 Are we really going to start picking apart 635 00:26:57,979 --> 00:26:59,212 the survivor's story? 636 00:26:59,237 --> 00:27:00,803 This is exactly why we were reluctant 637 00:27:00,828 --> 00:27:01,712 to come here in the first place. 638 00:27:01,737 --> 00:27:03,275 I understand, Professor Dillon. 639 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:05,367 But, Heather, last night at the rally, 640 00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:08,475 you said that there were six assailants. 641 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:10,712 Are there two others that we should be looking for? 642 00:27:10,737 --> 00:27:12,603 Look, I don't know exactly what happened in that room. 643 00:27:12,628 --> 00:27:14,494 People were hiding in the shadows, 644 00:27:14,518 --> 00:27:15,922 chanting, throwing things. 645 00:27:15,947 --> 00:27:18,080 - But the four you named... - absolutely raped me. 646 00:27:18,105 --> 00:27:19,564 Brian, Connor, Lance, and Zach. 647 00:27:19,589 --> 00:27:21,718 I-I know Zach was there, because they kept calling him Stinky, 648 00:27:21,743 --> 00:27:23,516 and he said, "dudes, my name is Zach." 649 00:27:23,551 --> 00:27:25,831 Can I ask why Zach wasn't picked up? 650 00:27:25,856 --> 00:27:28,128 Because he's in Cuba, and they won't extradite. 651 00:27:28,153 --> 00:27:30,053 But we do have a warrant out for his arrest. 652 00:27:30,155 --> 00:27:33,703 Good. And again, I hope, going forward, 653 00:27:33,728 --> 00:27:36,034 that we can kick apart their stories, not Heather's. 654 00:27:36,059 --> 00:27:37,834 We can, and we will. 655 00:27:37,934 --> 00:27:39,867 And I hope, going forward, 656 00:27:40,067 --> 00:27:42,573 Heather, that you'll stop talking to the press 657 00:27:42,598 --> 00:27:45,432 and at rallies about this, so we can do our job. 658 00:27:45,457 --> 00:27:46,872 You understand? 659 00:27:47,487 --> 00:27:49,572 There's only one problem with that. 660 00:27:49,886 --> 00:27:51,527 Which is what? 661 00:27:51,552 --> 00:27:53,144 I'm supposed to go on Anderson Cooper 662 00:27:53,169 --> 00:27:54,652 and Rachel Maddow tonight. 663 00:27:56,535 --> 00:27:58,834 Heather, you're going to have to cancel those. 664 00:27:58,896 --> 00:28:00,563 That's impossible. 665 00:28:00,588 --> 00:28:01,823 It's... it's too late. 666 00:28:01,848 --> 00:28:04,948 These issues are finally being brought to national attention. 667 00:28:04,973 --> 00:28:07,247 The whole country is waking up 668 00:28:07,272 --> 00:28:09,551 to the rape epidemic on our campuses. 669 00:28:09,576 --> 00:28:11,509 I thought that you said that you wanted 670 00:28:11,534 --> 00:28:13,136 to bring your assailants to justice. 671 00:28:13,161 --> 00:28:14,727 I did say that. I do. 672 00:28:14,752 --> 00:28:17,635 But this is so much more than that now. 673 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:20,036 I'm the face of a movement. 674 00:28:25,103 --> 00:28:28,071 She wants me to cancel the interviews. 675 00:28:28,096 --> 00:28:29,831 - How'd that go? - Not good. 676 00:28:29,856 --> 00:28:32,356 - She wants her story heard. - Which one? 677 00:28:32,381 --> 00:28:33,831 Her story's falling apart. 678 00:28:33,856 --> 00:28:36,566 Six guys, four guys, hockey sticks, no DNA. 679 00:28:36,591 --> 00:28:39,105 She keeps talking, she's going to torpedo her own case. 680 00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:41,775 Zach Franklin just surfaced at his lawyer's office. 681 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,175 He's about to go live on LMZ right now. 682 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,511 Folks, just let me know when you're all ready, 683 00:28:46,536 --> 00:28:47,836 and we'll get this going. 684 00:28:48,002 --> 00:28:49,510 Hey, Liv, you know about this? 685 00:28:49,535 --> 00:28:52,210 I'm John Buchanan, attorney for Zach Franklin. 686 00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:54,199 Star athlete, scholar, 687 00:28:54,224 --> 00:28:57,092 and unequivocally innocent of any and all charges 688 00:28:57,117 --> 00:28:59,596 in the so-called Hudson University gang-rape. 689 00:28:59,621 --> 00:29:00,737 Of course he is. 690 00:29:00,762 --> 00:29:03,206 That's a big bluff, even for Buchanan. 691 00:29:03,231 --> 00:29:04,480 Think he's got something? 692 00:29:04,505 --> 00:29:07,481 Tell them where you were December 12th, 2014, 693 00:29:07,506 --> 00:29:10,807 the night of Heather Manning's alleged assault. 694 00:29:10,832 --> 00:29:13,737 I was nine hours away, in Kimball, West Virginia, 695 00:29:13,762 --> 00:29:15,728 on the W.V. Hillmen soccer field. 696 00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:20,164 The championship game was televised live 697 00:29:20,189 --> 00:29:23,190 on sen until 11:40 P.M. eastern time. 698 00:29:23,704 --> 00:29:25,671 If you missed it, 699 00:29:25,706 --> 00:29:27,749 you'll be happy to hear Hudson won, 3-zip. 700 00:29:27,774 --> 00:29:29,841 - Benson. - We didn't vet this? 701 00:29:29,866 --> 00:29:32,343 He was in Cuba, Barba. Remember? 702 00:29:32,368 --> 00:29:34,635 This was the exact time Heather Manning 703 00:29:34,660 --> 00:29:36,742 was alleging my client 704 00:29:36,767 --> 00:29:40,641 was engaged in a heinous crime against her. 705 00:29:40,671 --> 00:29:45,641 NYPD and the D.A. are guilty of an outrageous 706 00:29:45,666 --> 00:29:49,641 and utterly inept investigation and prosecution. 707 00:29:56,873 --> 00:30:00,924 Zach, tell them where you were December 12th, 2014, 708 00:30:00,949 --> 00:30:04,044 the night of Heather Manning's alleged assault. 709 00:30:04,069 --> 00:30:07,270 I was nine hours away, in Kimball, West Virginia, 710 00:30:07,295 --> 00:30:09,008 on the W.V. Hillmen soccer field. 711 00:30:09,219 --> 00:30:11,987 "Alleged assault"? Heather was gang-raped. 712 00:30:12,022 --> 00:30:14,823 If that's true, Zach Franklin was not involved. 713 00:30:14,858 --> 00:30:16,091 I could have sworn he was there. 714 00:30:16,126 --> 00:30:18,192 It was dark, but I heard his voice. 715 00:30:18,217 --> 00:30:20,439 Because you told us that they called him by his nickname, 716 00:30:20,464 --> 00:30:22,692 that you heard him respond. 717 00:30:23,448 --> 00:30:25,625 Well, maybe that happened in a nightmare. 718 00:30:25,747 --> 00:30:27,447 I haven't been sleeping. 719 00:30:27,472 --> 00:30:29,138 Survivors have unclear memories. 720 00:30:29,163 --> 00:30:32,198 But the other boys are guilty. You have their DNA. 721 00:30:32,223 --> 00:30:33,819 They're claiming it was consensual. 722 00:30:33,844 --> 00:30:35,591 And you believe them over Heather? 723 00:30:35,616 --> 00:30:38,031 Professor Dillon, I think it's best 724 00:30:38,057 --> 00:30:39,826 if Heather speaks to the A.D.A. alone. 725 00:30:39,850 --> 00:30:40,949 I disagree. 726 00:30:40,974 --> 00:30:42,636 I'm the only one who's been here for her. 727 00:30:42,661 --> 00:30:44,563 You've advocated enough. It's our turn. 728 00:30:44,588 --> 00:30:46,535 If you want this case to continue, 729 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,907 I need Heather to tell me exactly what happened to her. 730 00:30:48,932 --> 00:30:50,499 And you need to tell Detective Rollins 731 00:30:50,524 --> 00:30:51,890 exactly what Heather disclosed to you. 732 00:30:51,915 --> 00:30:54,051 We told everything to Skip Peterson. 733 00:30:54,076 --> 00:30:56,751 Mm-hmm. We're talking to him right now too. 734 00:30:58,264 --> 00:31:01,251 I don't need you to tell me this thing is blowing up. 735 00:31:01,564 --> 00:31:04,524 Hash-tag "what else did skip Skip?" is trending. 736 00:31:05,685 --> 00:31:07,119 I'm just as hurt by this as you are. 737 00:31:07,144 --> 00:31:09,315 Look, our case is collapsing. 738 00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:11,490 You took this on air. 739 00:31:11,515 --> 00:31:14,716 Now you need to give us anything that you have 740 00:31:14,741 --> 00:31:16,528 that can corroborate Heather's story. 741 00:31:16,553 --> 00:31:18,291 Your notes, your interviews. 742 00:31:18,316 --> 00:31:19,185 I can't do that. 743 00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:21,076 We're way past the coy shtick, Skip. 744 00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:22,968 You don't get it. I can't corroborate, 745 00:31:22,993 --> 00:31:24,443 because I don't have anything to do so with. 746 00:31:24,468 --> 00:31:26,568 Come on, you must have talked to the boys? 747 00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:28,151 To people who saw Heather the next day? 748 00:31:28,176 --> 00:31:29,875 - The school? - No. 749 00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,172 I talked to Professor Dillon and Heather, in that order. 750 00:31:35,650 --> 00:31:38,350 Isn't investigating the main component 751 00:31:38,375 --> 00:31:39,974 of investigative journalism? 752 00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:42,547 Three boys have been arrested and arraigned. 753 00:31:42,572 --> 00:31:45,673 Their reputations damaged, possibly beyond repair. 754 00:31:45,888 --> 00:31:48,243 Now, I know that that's on us, too, but... 755 00:31:48,268 --> 00:31:49,841 20/20 hindsight's easy. 756 00:31:49,866 --> 00:31:51,632 You sound like my producer. 757 00:31:51,657 --> 00:31:53,728 Should I have talked to them? Obviously, yes. 758 00:31:53,753 --> 00:31:54,718 So why didn't you? 759 00:31:54,743 --> 00:31:56,026 Because I was protecting Heather. 760 00:31:56,051 --> 00:31:57,634 She was terrified of reprisals. 761 00:31:57,659 --> 00:32:00,533 And given Hudson's history, she had every right to be. 762 00:32:00,801 --> 00:32:02,821 I found Heather to be very credible. 763 00:32:02,857 --> 00:32:04,733 I have daughters her age. 764 00:32:04,772 --> 00:32:07,417 I have to say, I feel gratified in some small way 765 00:32:07,442 --> 00:32:10,309 I helped start a dialogue about the outrage of campus rape. 766 00:32:10,674 --> 00:32:12,434 - Skip, five minutes. - Then why didn't you 767 00:32:12,459 --> 00:32:14,145 start that dialogue with a story that was true? 768 00:32:14,170 --> 00:32:17,372 Because most other stories are more complicated. 769 00:32:17,433 --> 00:32:19,215 They're he-said, she-said. 770 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,940 Heather's story checked every box. 771 00:32:20,965 --> 00:32:23,911 Callous administration. Entitled, white frat boy jocks. 772 00:32:23,936 --> 00:32:26,036 The pack mentality gang-bang aspect. 773 00:32:26,061 --> 00:32:27,728 That's the story I've been looking for. 774 00:32:27,753 --> 00:32:29,486 If we hadn't grabbed it, someone else would have. 775 00:32:29,511 --> 00:32:31,111 Damn the consequences, right? 776 00:32:31,136 --> 00:32:33,036 Don't blame the messenger, blame the audience. 777 00:32:33,061 --> 00:32:34,426 Campus rape is so commonplace, 778 00:32:34,451 --> 00:32:36,251 it doesn't even rise to the level of news. 779 00:32:36,276 --> 00:32:39,077 Look what it took to get anyone to even care. 780 00:32:39,311 --> 00:32:42,617 I'd love to do this all day, but I have a retraction to tape. 781 00:32:42,642 --> 00:32:44,717 Let's go, guys. Let's do it. 782 00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:48,617 I went on a date with Brian. 783 00:32:48,801 --> 00:32:50,534 We got a little drunk. 784 00:32:50,608 --> 00:32:53,117 Then we made our way back to the frat. 785 00:32:54,583 --> 00:32:58,073 I thought he liked me, but it went wrong. 786 00:32:58,521 --> 00:32:59,817 It was horrible. 787 00:32:59,842 --> 00:33:01,275 Focus on the facts. 788 00:33:01,735 --> 00:33:04,739 Did Brian lead you into a dark room 789 00:33:04,764 --> 00:33:06,939 where three of his brothers were waiting? 790 00:33:07,305 --> 00:33:09,072 His room was dark, 791 00:33:09,097 --> 00:33:12,432 but it was empty. 792 00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:14,138 At first. 793 00:33:14,762 --> 00:33:17,463 So Connor Howell and Lance Mosconi weren't waiting there? 794 00:33:18,856 --> 00:33:21,339 Connor came in later. I'm positive of that. 795 00:33:21,363 --> 00:33:22,562 And Lance? 796 00:33:23,243 --> 00:33:25,577 I don't know. 797 00:33:27,206 --> 00:33:29,825 I know he was outside, but it was dark. 798 00:33:29,850 --> 00:33:33,598 I was drunk, confused. 799 00:33:33,623 --> 00:33:35,596 Confused about what? 800 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:40,784 When Heather came to me, she couldn't even articulate 801 00:33:40,809 --> 00:33:42,309 what had been done to her. 802 00:33:42,334 --> 00:33:45,208 That's how deep the culturally imposed self-blame goes. 803 00:33:45,233 --> 00:33:49,368 Okay, what exactly did she articulate? 804 00:33:49,393 --> 00:33:51,509 She told me she'd been assaulted. 805 00:33:52,073 --> 00:33:54,208 Did she say she was gang-raped? 806 00:33:54,271 --> 00:33:57,208 It was obvious she'd been through hell. 807 00:33:57,402 --> 00:34:00,288 Professor Dillon told me that I was so traumatized, 808 00:34:00,313 --> 00:34:03,314 it would take a while for me to process what had happened. 809 00:34:03,871 --> 00:34:06,296 Heather... 810 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:09,596 Did Brian Mackey rape you? 811 00:34:11,782 --> 00:34:13,457 I was drunk. 812 00:34:14,506 --> 00:34:17,096 He started to have sex with me. 813 00:34:17,704 --> 00:34:19,796 He moved really fast. 814 00:34:20,621 --> 00:34:22,497 Did you move with him? 815 00:34:22,773 --> 00:34:24,596 I guess... 816 00:34:25,315 --> 00:34:27,296 In the beginning. 817 00:34:28,439 --> 00:34:31,197 So it's possible it was consensual. 818 00:34:32,019 --> 00:34:33,596 I'm not sure. 819 00:34:35,676 --> 00:34:37,342 I passed out. 820 00:34:39,516 --> 00:34:43,197 When I woke up, Connor Howell was on top of me. 821 00:34:44,593 --> 00:34:46,793 He was raping me. 822 00:34:46,818 --> 00:34:49,197 I absolutely didn't want that. 823 00:34:51,937 --> 00:34:55,070 I remember Brian coming back into the room. 824 00:34:57,503 --> 00:34:59,301 And the others? 825 00:35:00,211 --> 00:35:02,071 That night is a blur. 826 00:35:04,981 --> 00:35:08,049 Guys harassing me as I left. 827 00:35:09,739 --> 00:35:11,672 When I told Professor Dillon that, 828 00:35:11,697 --> 00:35:14,672 she said they probably all took a piece of me. 829 00:35:17,612 --> 00:35:19,446 Professor Dillon told you that? 830 00:35:23,201 --> 00:35:25,468 Can you wait here a minute? 831 00:35:25,550 --> 00:35:28,008 I need to know exactly what you told Heather. 832 00:35:28,033 --> 00:35:29,433 What she already knew. 833 00:35:29,458 --> 00:35:31,091 It was barbaric the way they abused her, 834 00:35:31,116 --> 00:35:34,020 - taunted her, assaulted her. - But she was raped. 835 00:35:34,045 --> 00:35:35,711 Right? Is that what she told you? 836 00:35:35,950 --> 00:35:37,416 By how many men? 837 00:35:37,441 --> 00:35:38,974 What difference does that make? 838 00:35:38,999 --> 00:35:40,465 - Excuse me? - She was assaulted. 839 00:35:40,490 --> 00:35:42,154 Does it matter by whom, 840 00:35:42,179 --> 00:35:44,013 for how long, in which orifice? 841 00:35:44,038 --> 00:35:46,417 Yes! Yes! It matters. 842 00:35:46,442 --> 00:35:48,709 We are talking about criminal charges 843 00:35:48,734 --> 00:35:50,376 based on specifics of what happened. 844 00:35:50,401 --> 00:35:52,335 It doesn't matter what happened to her. 845 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,490 What matters is it happens every day. 846 00:35:54,515 --> 00:35:57,428 And these frat boys strut around like they're bulletproof. 847 00:35:57,453 --> 00:36:00,821 So a few of them finally have to take responsibility? 848 00:36:00,846 --> 00:36:04,280 Good. This isn't about you or these boys or this case. 849 00:36:04,305 --> 00:36:05,592 This is bigger than any of us. 850 00:36:05,617 --> 00:36:09,392 This is about eliminating rape culture once and for all. 851 00:36:18,969 --> 00:36:21,413 Our story, "Nightmare on Campus," 852 00:36:21,438 --> 00:36:23,581 generated international media attention 853 00:36:23,606 --> 00:36:25,606 and inspired a long-overdue discussion 854 00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:27,627 about campus sexual assault. 855 00:36:27,652 --> 00:36:30,221 However, it has now come to our attention 856 00:36:30,246 --> 00:36:32,613 that many of the disturbing allegations 857 00:36:32,638 --> 00:36:34,526 were fabricated by Heather Manning. 858 00:36:34,591 --> 00:36:36,536 Did I miss the actual apology part? 859 00:36:36,561 --> 00:36:39,207 Like many of you, I believed Heather. 860 00:36:39,232 --> 00:36:40,899 That was a mistake. 861 00:36:41,019 --> 00:36:42,934 We have asked an independent ombudsman 862 00:36:42,959 --> 00:36:44,592 from the medill school of journalism 863 00:36:44,627 --> 00:36:46,721 to investigate and issue a report 864 00:36:46,746 --> 00:36:49,721 about what we can do differently in the future. 865 00:36:49,962 --> 00:36:52,329 An independent investigation. 866 00:36:52,354 --> 00:36:53,954 They're throwing the book at themselves. 867 00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:57,468 Barba's hanging by a string and dodds is hanging you out to dry. 868 00:36:57,493 --> 00:36:59,742 I don't blame him. We moved too fast. 869 00:36:59,767 --> 00:37:00,952 We didn't vet it hard enough. 870 00:37:00,977 --> 00:37:02,939 It's not on us. It's not even on that haircut. 871 00:37:02,964 --> 00:37:05,164 It's on Heather. She straight-out lied to us. 872 00:37:05,189 --> 00:37:06,338 Fin. 873 00:37:06,548 --> 00:37:08,684 Heather, can I help you? 874 00:37:11,878 --> 00:37:13,642 Once the story got out there, 875 00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:16,969 I had all these survivors coming to me and disclosing, 876 00:37:16,994 --> 00:37:19,661 counting on me to be their strength. 877 00:37:19,686 --> 00:37:22,219 I couldn't just take back my story. 878 00:37:22,244 --> 00:37:24,744 But your story wasn't true, Heather. 879 00:37:24,769 --> 00:37:27,112 Brian may think he didn't rape me. 880 00:37:27,137 --> 00:37:28,870 But we were both drunk. 881 00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,683 Professor Dillon told me that that means 882 00:37:31,708 --> 00:37:33,608 that I wasn't capable of consenting. 883 00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:37,046 She also said that once I passed out, 884 00:37:37,070 --> 00:37:38,970 there's no way to know what happened to me. 885 00:37:39,015 --> 00:37:40,782 I could have been gang-raped. 886 00:37:41,140 --> 00:37:43,927 But we can't make that case. 887 00:37:43,952 --> 00:37:45,384 What about Connor? 888 00:37:45,409 --> 00:37:47,575 I know he raped me. 889 00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:48,862 Brian left. 890 00:37:48,887 --> 00:37:52,422 And I was passed out. I was half-naked. 891 00:37:52,573 --> 00:37:56,608 And then I came to because Connor was raping me. 892 00:37:56,633 --> 00:37:58,738 Hard, violent. 893 00:38:02,556 --> 00:38:04,038 Did anybody else see? 894 00:38:04,074 --> 00:38:08,038 Yes. Brian came in. He saw everything. 895 00:38:09,647 --> 00:38:12,281 And then he just turned and walked away. 896 00:38:12,409 --> 00:38:13,922 Like you're doing now. 897 00:38:17,957 --> 00:38:19,857 I believe you, Heather. 898 00:38:21,261 --> 00:38:24,195 But a jury is going to have reasonable doubt. 899 00:38:27,879 --> 00:38:29,868 So that's it? 900 00:38:30,769 --> 00:38:34,037 I have to go to school every day and see my rapist? 901 00:38:35,192 --> 00:38:37,259 I'm sorry, Heather. 902 00:38:37,373 --> 00:38:40,251 I'm sorry about all of it. 903 00:38:40,926 --> 00:38:42,893 And if there was something I could do 904 00:38:42,999 --> 00:38:45,566 to go back and change it, I would. 905 00:38:48,884 --> 00:38:50,751 But at this point... 906 00:38:51,913 --> 00:38:54,280 There's nothing we can do. 907 00:38:59,845 --> 00:39:01,657 _ 908 00:39:01,682 --> 00:39:03,915 Your Honor, given the collapse of this case, 909 00:39:03,940 --> 00:39:05,544 we move for a dismissal of all charges 910 00:39:05,569 --> 00:39:06,876 against the four defendants. 911 00:39:06,901 --> 00:39:08,734 How say you, Mr. Barba? 912 00:39:08,759 --> 00:39:10,659 We are prepared to drop the charges. 913 00:39:10,684 --> 00:39:13,451 Against all four of the accused? 914 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:15,676 Yes, your honor. All four. 915 00:39:15,712 --> 00:39:20,248 Assuming no other holds, you are free to go, gentlemen. 916 00:39:20,283 --> 00:39:21,729 Thank you, your honor. 917 00:39:36,513 --> 00:39:40,281 I believed Heather. I still believe Heather. 918 00:39:40,306 --> 00:39:43,474 We all know something horrible happened to her that night, 919 00:39:43,499 --> 00:39:46,084 but until rape culture changes in this country, 920 00:39:46,109 --> 00:39:48,276 none of us will be safe. 921 00:39:48,311 --> 00:39:51,746 And that was just part of the outrage on campus today 922 00:39:51,781 --> 00:39:53,581 as students reacted to the news 923 00:39:53,616 --> 00:39:55,498 that the D.A. has dropped the charges 924 00:39:55,523 --> 00:39:56,889 against all four defendants 925 00:39:56,914 --> 00:39:58,881 in the Hudson University gang-rape case. 926 00:39:59,155 --> 00:40:01,489 Meanwhile, an attorney for the former defendants 927 00:40:01,524 --> 00:40:03,324 will be filing a lawsuit 928 00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:06,260 against Hudson University and the NYPD early next week. 929 00:40:06,296 --> 00:40:07,562 Turn that off. 930 00:40:07,597 --> 00:40:09,897 Well, we should feel proud. 931 00:40:09,933 --> 00:40:11,599 Pumped up their ratings for another week, 932 00:40:11,654 --> 00:40:13,454 and those boys will never get their reputations back. 933 00:40:13,479 --> 00:40:15,200 Yeah, but that's the job, Carisi. 934 00:40:15,225 --> 00:40:18,293 It's hard to know what actually happened in cases like these. 935 00:40:18,318 --> 00:40:20,785 If you can't take that, SVU isn't right for you. 936 00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:23,344 Nah, I get it. I'm good here. 937 00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:25,279 Let's hope Liv is. 938 00:40:25,315 --> 00:40:27,815 Right now she's heading up to Hudson U. 939 00:40:27,850 --> 00:40:31,147 Round three of the apology tour. 940 00:40:31,321 --> 00:40:32,964 Given everything that's happened, 941 00:40:32,989 --> 00:40:36,624 I wanted to apologize for my tone a few days back. 942 00:40:36,659 --> 00:40:38,326 We were both taken advantage of, 943 00:40:38,361 --> 00:40:40,094 and we both had blinders on. 944 00:40:40,354 --> 00:40:43,467 You know, it was the perfect story. 945 00:40:43,492 --> 00:40:46,177 It confirmed all of my preconceived notions. 946 00:40:46,202 --> 00:40:49,303 And that alone should have made me approach it 947 00:40:49,339 --> 00:40:51,038 with more skepticism. 948 00:40:51,074 --> 00:40:52,873 And, to be honest, I can't help but ask 949 00:40:52,909 --> 00:40:54,208 if I'd listened to Heather 950 00:40:54,244 --> 00:40:55,843 instead of badgering her with questions 951 00:40:55,878 --> 00:40:57,578 if this wouldn't have ended differently. 952 00:40:57,603 --> 00:40:58,702 Maybe. 953 00:40:58,727 --> 00:41:01,027 Maybe she would have told you the true story. 954 00:41:02,703 --> 00:41:06,939 Connor Howell did actually rape Heather. 955 00:41:08,375 --> 00:41:11,535 You have a dangerous predator on your campus. 956 00:41:12,446 --> 00:41:13,912 And now that he's gotten away with it, 957 00:41:13,937 --> 00:41:16,070 he'll likely be emboldened. 958 00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:18,225 And you can't prosecute, 959 00:41:18,250 --> 00:41:20,083 but you want me to discipline him? 960 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,962 I'm asking you to do what you can. 961 00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:27,654 A lot less than I could have last week. 962 00:41:27,791 --> 00:41:29,925 We had an incident last night. 963 00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:32,751 The first thing the accused said to campus security was, 964 00:41:32,776 --> 00:41:35,962 "she's lying just like Heather Manning." 965 00:41:38,421 --> 00:41:41,061 I don't blame Heather. 966 00:41:41,086 --> 00:41:44,269 Skip Peterson and Professor Dillon, 967 00:41:44,294 --> 00:41:47,552 they... they pressured her into coming forward. 968 00:41:49,198 --> 00:41:50,464 They thought this would be the case 969 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:53,601 that would change rape culture and it did. 970 00:41:55,509 --> 00:41:59,511 It set the clock back 30 years. 971 00:42:05,094 --> 00:42:09,289 - Synced and corrected by martythecrazy - - www.MY-SUBS.com - 72133

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