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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:19,371 --> 00:01:21,915 Going to Montserrat was like going into a dream. 2 00:01:23,250 --> 00:01:24,668 It's always different. 3 00:01:24,793 --> 00:01:27,629 Reality's always different from what you think it will be. 4 00:01:35,387 --> 00:01:40,392 I love the idea of wilderness on the edge of civilization. 5 00:01:41,185 --> 00:01:48,150 I think the volcano itself is a kind of presiding spirit over the island, 6 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:50,527 and it definitely gives you a sense 7 00:01:50,652 --> 00:01:54,781 that you're living on the edge of something seismic. 8 00:02:00,787 --> 00:02:05,042 When the volcano went off, that was a pinnacle point of change. 9 00:02:05,167 --> 00:02:08,753 A point where nothing was ever gonna be quite the same again. 10 00:02:08,878 --> 00:02:13,592 In the way we recorded, in the way that music was dealt with. 11 00:02:13,717 --> 00:02:16,929 Those magical moments are gonna be no longer. 12 00:02:20,474 --> 00:02:24,436 It was a glorious dream that George Martin had. 13 00:02:24,561 --> 00:02:27,272 And it's so sad, as always, 14 00:02:27,397 --> 00:02:32,861 to see a glorious dream come to an end and be destroyed. 15 00:02:33,862 --> 00:02:35,948 It's Atlantis now, isn't it? 16 00:03:33,422 --> 00:03:36,091 (HOT HOT HOT PLAYING) 17 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:43,140 ♪ Ole, ole, ole, ole 18 00:03:43,307 --> 00:03:46,935 ♪ Ole, ole, ole, ole 19 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:48,604 ♪ Feeling hot, hot, hot 20 00:03:51,064 --> 00:03:52,941 ♪ Feeling hot, hot, hot ♪ 21 00:03:54,318 --> 00:03:57,571 VYE ROBINSON: Montserrat's in the Caribbean. It's very close to Antigua. 22 00:03:57,696 --> 00:04:01,158 But because it's so small, it really is that hidden gem. 23 00:04:01,283 --> 00:04:04,244 They used to call it the Hidden Gem and the Emerald Isle of the Caribbean. 24 00:04:04,369 --> 00:04:07,831 Montserrat was colonized by the Irish. That's why the island is so different 25 00:04:07,956 --> 00:04:11,877 because it's just a really friendly place, it's just got a magic about it. 26 00:04:12,002 --> 00:04:15,380 ♪ Keep your spirit, come on, let's do it! 27 00:04:15,506 --> 00:04:17,007 ♪ Feeling hot, hot, hot ♪ 28 00:04:18,257 --> 00:04:20,177 DESMOND RILEY: We had one big superstar. 29 00:04:20,302 --> 00:04:24,264 Mighty Arrow. Everybody around the world would know Arrow, Hot Hot Hot. 30 00:04:24,389 --> 00:04:26,850 That's our music. We call it soca music. 31 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:30,229 JUSTIN "HERO" CASSELL: Soca is a hybrid of calypso music. 32 00:04:30,354 --> 00:04:35,275 Calypso music originated in Nigeria and came to the West Indies. 33 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,529 These islands, you know, they were part of the slave trade. 34 00:04:38,654 --> 00:04:41,532 And then you had the calypso carnivals. 35 00:04:43,659 --> 00:04:45,536 ♪ Keep people rockin' ♪ 36 00:04:45,911 --> 00:04:48,205 MINETTA ALLEN FRANCIS: Montserrat is just a lovely place. 37 00:04:48,330 --> 00:04:50,874 There is an atmosphere in Montserrat 38 00:04:50,999 --> 00:04:53,752 that just makes you want to live in Montserrat. 39 00:04:57,005 --> 00:05:00,217 MIDGE URE: There was no doubt there was a magic on Montserrat. 40 00:05:00,342 --> 00:05:03,679 This island was kind of untouched. 41 00:05:03,804 --> 00:05:08,392 There were no big corporate signs for chain restaurants. 42 00:05:08,517 --> 00:05:10,811 And here was no American money in there, 43 00:05:10,936 --> 00:05:14,690 just these old shacks and tin roofs, 44 00:05:14,815 --> 00:05:17,818 and brightly colored and painted beautifully. 45 00:05:17,943 --> 00:05:20,404 And you felt as though you were in a time warp. 46 00:05:20,529 --> 00:05:24,825 This little island had a heart that you could feel, you know? 47 00:05:27,786 --> 00:05:31,665 KNOPFLER: It didn't have the sophistication you'd feel straight away 48 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:35,711 if you went to Antigua or anywhere else like that. 49 00:05:35,836 --> 00:05:39,464 It was far more innocent, far more quiet. 50 00:05:41,008 --> 00:05:43,260 STING: There's definitely a mystique about the island. 51 00:05:43,385 --> 00:05:45,679 It's quite a place, actually. It's really dramatic. 52 00:05:45,804 --> 00:05:48,891 These, you know, very sheer cliffs. 53 00:05:49,016 --> 00:05:51,351 And, of course, the fertility of the island 54 00:05:51,476 --> 00:05:56,607 is a function of this volcanic ash that comes down periodically. 55 00:05:56,732 --> 00:05:58,942 It hadn't come down for a long time, 56 00:05:59,067 --> 00:06:03,030 but the island was blooming and blossoming, everything grew. 57 00:06:03,155 --> 00:06:07,492 I often wonder why George Martin chose a volcanic island 58 00:06:07,618 --> 00:06:09,953 to put his beautiful studio on. 59 00:06:10,078 --> 00:06:11,580 (BIG BEN CHIMES) 60 00:06:18,504 --> 00:06:22,299 Originally, Dad, he was a mad visionary in lots of ways. 61 00:06:22,424 --> 00:06:24,718 I think always liked the idea of pushing boundaries. 62 00:06:24,843 --> 00:06:26,845 Think about what he did with the Beatles in the '60s. 63 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:29,348 He pushed the boundaries with the recording studios. 64 00:06:29,473 --> 00:06:30,891 He wanted to do something different. 65 00:06:31,433 --> 00:06:33,435 I bust a string straight away. 66 00:06:34,436 --> 00:06:35,771 (RUNS FINGERS UP KEYBOARD) 67 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:38,357 There were some great moments singing, Paul, but it wasn't the one. 68 00:06:38,482 --> 00:06:41,318 It's the second one out of every three is the one. 69 00:06:41,443 --> 00:06:44,613 Do you want to hear any of it before you do any more or go straight for another? 70 00:06:44,738 --> 00:06:47,282 JOHN LENNON: They either say that George Martin did everything 71 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:49,701 or the Beatles did everything. It was neither one, you know? 72 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:55,624 He had a very great musical knowledge and background. 73 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:58,669 So he could translate for us and suggest a lot of things. 74 00:06:58,794 --> 00:07:00,754 We'd be saying we want it to go... 75 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:02,506 ooo-ooo and eee-eee. 76 00:07:02,631 --> 00:07:06,260 He'd say, "Well, look, chaps, I thought of this this afternoon. 77 00:07:06,385 --> 00:07:08,971 Last night, I was talking to..." whoever he was talking to. 78 00:07:09,096 --> 00:07:10,597 "And I came up with this." 79 00:07:10,722 --> 00:07:13,642 And we'd say, "Great. Great. We'll put it on here." 80 00:07:13,767 --> 00:07:16,311 It's hard to say who did what, you know? 81 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:18,605 I mean, he taught us a lot. I'm sure we taught him a lot. 82 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:21,358 GERRY BECKLEY: A record producer is not like a film producer. 83 00:07:21,483 --> 00:07:23,986 A record producer is much more like a film director. 84 00:07:24,111 --> 00:07:27,072 One thing that was unique to George that a lot of producers didn't have 85 00:07:27,197 --> 00:07:29,825 is that he was also the arranger. 86 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:33,620 That's very often a completely different person, different element. 87 00:07:33,745 --> 00:07:35,664 In George's case, his work as an arranger 88 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:39,251 would be, for example, the strings in Eleanor Rigby or something. 89 00:07:39,376 --> 00:07:42,421 If you think of some of the famous producers of our time, 90 00:07:42,546 --> 00:07:45,632 the wall of sound, Phil Spector, 91 00:07:45,757 --> 00:07:48,802 where he controlled every note of every instrument 92 00:07:48,927 --> 00:07:52,431 and was just a tyrant and stuff, George was not at all like that. 93 00:07:52,556 --> 00:07:55,392 But there was a serious element 94 00:07:55,517 --> 00:08:01,273 of just kind of good Pythonesque British crazy in there. 95 00:08:01,398 --> 00:08:02,733 Just a lovely combination. 96 00:08:02,858 --> 00:08:07,863 (♪ "THREE AMERICAN SKETCHES: II. OLD BOSTON" BY GEORGE MARTIN) 97 00:08:13,035 --> 00:08:17,581 He knew how to get from you the best that you could give. 98 00:08:17,706 --> 00:08:20,167 Which was extraordinary, in the most wonderful way. 99 00:08:20,292 --> 00:08:24,087 Elegant, gentlemanly, loving, nurturing way. 100 00:08:24,213 --> 00:08:26,924 He would make any musician a much better musician 101 00:08:27,049 --> 00:08:28,675 by spending five minutes with them. 102 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,678 You can put a very soft flute against a huge brass chord 103 00:08:31,803 --> 00:08:33,138 and still make it sound loud. 104 00:08:33,263 --> 00:08:35,807 And then cut up the tape, threw it up in the air, 105 00:08:35,933 --> 00:08:38,393 until it settled down on the ground, and joined them up again together. 106 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:42,313 So it just became like a patchwork quilt. 107 00:08:42,438 --> 00:08:44,358 This is the kind of thing you can do on a recording, 108 00:08:44,483 --> 00:08:46,443 which you obviously couldn't possibly do it live 109 00:08:46,568 --> 00:08:48,529 because it is making up music as you go along. 110 00:08:48,654 --> 00:08:52,574 He's largely responsible, along with the Beatles, 111 00:08:52,699 --> 00:08:57,955 for giving everybody that came after them in music a career. 112 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,502 What the Beatles did with their albums, no one will ever top that. 113 00:09:04,002 --> 00:09:07,381 NEWSREEL: It is a moment in history that may one day be known 114 00:09:07,506 --> 00:09:11,093 as the day the British Empire was no more. 115 00:09:11,218 --> 00:09:15,222 The Beatles have decided to call it a day. 116 00:09:15,347 --> 00:09:17,516 BECKLEY: Well, a lot of things happened at that time. 117 00:09:17,641 --> 00:09:21,436 Obviously, the Beatles broke up, and so, George was free from EMI. 118 00:09:21,562 --> 00:09:23,814 So I guess he became his own boss. 119 00:09:23,939 --> 00:09:26,859 But frankly, if you're known as the Beatles' producer, 120 00:09:26,984 --> 00:09:28,402 anything you do after that, 121 00:09:28,527 --> 00:09:31,488 it's virtually impossible to get anywhere near that. 122 00:09:31,613 --> 00:09:33,574 GILES MARTIN: I think my dad was tired of the confines 123 00:09:33,699 --> 00:09:35,742 of a very rigid company structure, 124 00:09:35,868 --> 00:09:38,579 which was Abbey Road, or EMI Studios as it was at the time. 125 00:09:38,704 --> 00:09:41,623 And he wanted to build a place which was more artist friendly. 126 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:43,876 Abbey Road obviously created great music, 127 00:09:44,001 --> 00:09:45,669 but they always found... 128 00:09:45,794 --> 00:09:47,588 I mean, the fridge was locked every night. 129 00:09:47,713 --> 00:09:51,216 They had to break in to get milk for their cups of tea. 130 00:09:51,341 --> 00:09:54,428 Even the loo roll had Abbey Road on it, so you wouldn't steal it. 131 00:09:54,553 --> 00:09:57,431 It was very much a... It was like a proper English factory. 132 00:09:57,556 --> 00:10:01,226 MALCOLM ATKIN: There's no doubt in my mind that George had a vision 133 00:10:01,351 --> 00:10:04,730 of how recording could or should be done. 134 00:10:04,855 --> 00:10:10,903 Through the '70s was a period of great excess in the music business. 135 00:10:11,403 --> 00:10:17,075 Um, it was an era when there wasn't such a thing as a budget. 136 00:10:17,201 --> 00:10:19,578 There was a need to make some music. 137 00:10:19,703 --> 00:10:23,290 COOPER: The '70s was one of the most exciting periods 138 00:10:23,415 --> 00:10:25,959 in musical recording time. 139 00:10:26,084 --> 00:10:28,545 And a few times, I've been in EMI, Abbey Road, 140 00:10:28,670 --> 00:10:33,050 and normally I would bump into George, but he wasn't there. 141 00:10:33,175 --> 00:10:36,011 And I wondered what was going on, and they said, 142 00:10:36,136 --> 00:10:39,515 "He's making his own studio now. AIR London it's gonna be called." 143 00:10:40,641 --> 00:10:43,810 ♪ Will you meet me in the middle? 144 00:10:43,936 --> 00:10:47,064 ♪ Will you meet me in the air? 145 00:10:47,189 --> 00:10:48,565 DAVE HARRIES: We had four studios. 146 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:51,401 Oxford Circus, right in the middle of town. 147 00:10:51,527 --> 00:10:55,113 And it was so successful, you know, it was a hit factory. 148 00:10:55,239 --> 00:10:59,868 (♪ "SISTER GOLDEN HAIR" BY AMERICA) 149 00:11:25,686 --> 00:11:28,564 There's a momentum shift which happens with successful studios. 150 00:11:28,689 --> 00:11:30,691 But I think my dad wanted to do something different 151 00:11:30,816 --> 00:11:31,817 in the recording space. 152 00:11:31,942 --> 00:11:33,610 He wanted to record in a different location. 153 00:11:33,735 --> 00:11:35,904 Then he built AIR and he thought, "Where next?" 154 00:11:36,029 --> 00:11:39,032 George was looking for something, you know, 155 00:11:39,157 --> 00:11:41,201 which wasn't in the middle of London. 156 00:11:41,326 --> 00:11:44,913 Somewhere where the people could come and record, 157 00:11:45,038 --> 00:11:48,500 and his plan was there'd be a lack of hangers-on. 158 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:51,461 It would just be them and their families. 159 00:11:51,587 --> 00:11:55,340 HARRIES: Then he had an idea that he would put a studio on a boat. 160 00:11:55,465 --> 00:11:57,801 He had a boat in line, which we went and looked at, 161 00:11:57,926 --> 00:12:01,096 a great big, big boat, and we were going to put a studio in the middle 162 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:04,016 so we could go to anywhere in the world and record people. 163 00:12:04,141 --> 00:12:08,312 Then he realized that just the diesel generators would make a noise 164 00:12:08,437 --> 00:12:10,189 in every single recording he made. 165 00:12:10,314 --> 00:12:13,650 So then he looked at islands, looked at Island Paradise, 166 00:12:13,775 --> 00:12:17,070 looked at that idea about building a studio and found Montserrat. 167 00:12:17,196 --> 00:12:19,698 HARRIES: And suddenly, he comes up to me and says, 168 00:12:19,823 --> 00:12:22,576 "Dave, we're flying out to Montserrat. I want to show you something. 169 00:12:22,701 --> 00:12:25,746 I've just bought a house and I've bought an estate, 170 00:12:25,871 --> 00:12:28,624 and I want you to build a studio there." 171 00:12:33,378 --> 00:12:35,589 I'd read about Montserrat in a Canadian magazine. 172 00:12:35,714 --> 00:12:38,050 They described it, "The Emerald Isle of the Caribbean." 173 00:12:38,175 --> 00:12:40,594 So, I went there for a few days and fell in love with the place, 174 00:12:40,719 --> 00:12:45,057 and with the people, because they're such gentle people. 175 00:12:45,182 --> 00:12:49,019 And I loved it so much, I bought a place, simple as that. 176 00:12:49,144 --> 00:12:51,772 KNOPFLER: Montserrat, for George, was something more 177 00:12:51,897 --> 00:12:54,608 than just a commercial operation. 178 00:12:54,733 --> 00:12:57,069 He'd fallen in love with Montserrat. 179 00:12:58,195 --> 00:13:00,447 And he had something else in his mind, 180 00:13:00,572 --> 00:13:06,203 just to be able to tie in creativity with being in a special place. 181 00:13:06,912 --> 00:13:10,749 COOPER: George's idea was to take people out of an environment, 182 00:13:10,874 --> 00:13:13,335 to put them into harmony with nature, 183 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:18,298 but also have time together to talk, to have dialogue. 184 00:13:18,423 --> 00:13:19,967 And what he knew would happen 185 00:13:20,092 --> 00:13:22,970 was that for a lot of bands who had never been in that situation, 186 00:13:23,095 --> 00:13:29,476 that would evoke new ways of thinking, and therefore, new musical ideas. 187 00:13:29,601 --> 00:13:31,687 If you look at Montserrat on a map or had visited it 188 00:13:31,812 --> 00:13:34,106 at that stage in 1976, '77, 189 00:13:34,231 --> 00:13:36,400 you'd never think, "Let's build a recording studios here." 190 00:13:36,525 --> 00:13:39,361 In the same way you start building the studios, you don't think, 191 00:13:39,486 --> 00:13:42,656 "Let's get Rupert Neve to build a custom desk and put it in this space." 192 00:13:42,781 --> 00:13:46,201 HARRIES: The heart of any studio is the mixing console. 193 00:13:46,326 --> 00:13:50,539 Geoff Emerick was quite involved in what was gonna go on in Montserrat. 194 00:13:50,664 --> 00:13:57,045 So Geoff didn't want to use a current type of Neve console. 195 00:13:57,171 --> 00:13:59,423 So Rupert redesigned the desk. 196 00:13:59,548 --> 00:14:04,261 He said, "It will wipe everything else off the planet, this desk." 197 00:14:04,386 --> 00:14:06,054 AIR Studios, part of AIR's fame 198 00:14:06,180 --> 00:14:12,102 was that it had these three incredible-sounding Neve consoles. 199 00:14:12,227 --> 00:14:14,062 And they had one at AIR Montserrat. 200 00:14:14,188 --> 00:14:18,066 Neve desks, to me, it sounded musical. 201 00:14:18,192 --> 00:14:20,152 You could actually tune into something, 202 00:14:20,277 --> 00:14:22,112 you could bring out the character of something. 203 00:14:22,237 --> 00:14:25,490 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 204 00:14:28,118 --> 00:14:31,371 GILES MARTIN: Putting a recording desk in a studios 205 00:14:31,496 --> 00:14:33,165 in a big city has its own problems. 206 00:14:33,290 --> 00:14:36,502 Putting a recording studio on Montserrat, 207 00:14:36,627 --> 00:14:40,005 which really had no transport links at all at that stage, 208 00:14:40,130 --> 00:14:42,382 was the ultimate challenge. 209 00:14:42,508 --> 00:14:47,304 And it was very brave of them, too, because if something went really wrong, 210 00:14:47,429 --> 00:14:51,266 your closest port of call was Miami. 211 00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:54,853 You can imagine this huge two-ton box, 212 00:14:55,979 --> 00:14:58,899 with the most extraordinary piece of equipment inside of it, 213 00:14:59,024 --> 00:15:01,568 with about 30 builders all round it, 214 00:15:01,693 --> 00:15:05,364 and they rolled it off the back of the truck onto the oil drums. 215 00:15:05,489 --> 00:15:08,116 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 216 00:15:29,388 --> 00:15:31,473 PRESENTER: He's recognized as the greatest record producer 217 00:15:31,598 --> 00:15:33,642 the industry has seen. George Martin. 218 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:35,269 (APPLAUSE) 219 00:15:35,394 --> 00:15:38,772 What are you up to right now? You have an interest in a studio abroad. 220 00:15:38,897 --> 00:15:41,567 Recently, I built a studio out in the Caribbean. 221 00:15:41,692 --> 00:15:44,319 This reminds me of it, by the way. (LAUGHS) 222 00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:46,238 So I spend quite a lot of time out there. 223 00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:48,740 And that was Montserrat in the West Indies. 224 00:15:48,866 --> 00:15:50,492 I hope I get a lot of people there. 225 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:53,495 (VOLCANO PLAYING) 226 00:16:01,378 --> 00:16:06,091 BUFFET: We were, I believe, the second band that recorded there, 227 00:16:06,216 --> 00:16:09,136 and, you know, I love island culture and I love the island people, 228 00:16:09,261 --> 00:16:13,265 and I lived on my boat off and on down there for 20 years. 229 00:16:13,390 --> 00:16:17,144 So I didn't have to go back to London or New York or Nashville to record it. 230 00:16:17,811 --> 00:16:20,898 And I was able to take those songs that were written there 231 00:16:21,023 --> 00:16:24,943 and go into that studio that was built by George Martin. 232 00:16:25,068 --> 00:16:28,030 You couldn't get anybody who had a better reputation at that time. 233 00:16:28,155 --> 00:16:30,365 It was a lovely working environment 234 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:34,912 because you didn't leave, I would say, the arena of creativity. 235 00:16:35,037 --> 00:16:38,707 You were constantly involved in the creation of this music, 236 00:16:38,832 --> 00:16:40,667 as opposed to, like, being in Nashville, 237 00:16:40,792 --> 00:16:43,962 because to me, there are two ways that you go into the studio. 238 00:16:44,087 --> 00:16:47,966 You can go in and look for perfection, or you can try to capture the magic. 239 00:16:48,091 --> 00:16:50,469 I've always been a "capture the magic" guy. 240 00:16:50,594 --> 00:16:52,846 ♪ Now, I don't know 241 00:16:54,097 --> 00:16:55,599 ♪ I don't know 242 00:16:56,725 --> 00:16:59,144 ♪ I don't know where I'm a-gonna go 243 00:16:59,269 --> 00:17:01,021 ♪ When the volcano blows 244 00:17:01,146 --> 00:17:02,189 ♪ One more now 245 00:17:02,314 --> 00:17:03,690 ♪ I don't know 246 00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:04,900 ♪ He don't know 247 00:17:05,025 --> 00:17:06,359 ♪ I don't know 248 00:17:06,484 --> 00:17:07,694 ♪ He don't know 249 00:17:07,819 --> 00:17:09,905 ♪ I don't know where I'm a-gonna go 250 00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:11,490 ♪ When the volcano blows 251 00:17:11,615 --> 00:17:13,282 ♪ Mr. Utley ♪ 252 00:17:13,407 --> 00:17:17,119 But then, we had a few problems. (LAUGHS) 253 00:17:17,246 --> 00:17:19,705 At the time, they were not funny 254 00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:22,876 because there was a bit of a colonial aspect to things 255 00:17:23,001 --> 00:17:25,462 that did not fare well with the American band. 256 00:17:25,587 --> 00:17:28,882 We were in having drinks, meeting everybody. 257 00:17:29,007 --> 00:17:30,843 As we went to order the drinks, 258 00:17:30,968 --> 00:17:33,554 you had to do it one at a time and have a slip down, 259 00:17:33,679 --> 00:17:36,098 you had to put it in and pay for it at the time. 260 00:17:36,223 --> 00:17:39,643 And this did not go over well with the Coral Reefer Band. 261 00:17:39,768 --> 00:17:44,273 So the studio manager at the time, a guy named Denny Bridges, I remember, 262 00:17:44,398 --> 00:17:51,029 I said, "This is kinda odd for us, sir. Can't we kind of speed this up? 263 00:17:51,154 --> 00:17:53,156 We can have fun here, 264 00:17:53,282 --> 00:17:55,909 but we're here for two hours trying to pay for the drinks." 265 00:17:56,034 --> 00:17:57,786 He said, "That's just the way we do it here." 266 00:17:57,911 --> 00:18:02,291 And I just said, "Why don't I just buy the whole fucking bar?" (LAUGHS) 267 00:18:02,416 --> 00:18:05,085 ♪ Ground, she's a-moving under me 268 00:18:07,462 --> 00:18:10,132 ♪ Tidal waves out on the sea ♪ 269 00:18:13,135 --> 00:18:14,928 The thing was when we first got there, 270 00:18:15,053 --> 00:18:17,890 we didn't know what we were gonna call the record. 271 00:18:18,015 --> 00:18:19,308 And we saw the volcano. 272 00:18:19,433 --> 00:18:23,478 This was a dormant volcano that was, like, a tourist attraction. 273 00:18:23,604 --> 00:18:28,025 You could walk from, like, here to you and that was the vent of the volcano. 274 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:29,985 It was... (WHOOSHING SOUND) 275 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:35,574 It was kind of fun to go up there, and I was intrigued by that volcano 276 00:18:35,699 --> 00:18:39,411 that was, you know, sitting there that was so accessible. 277 00:18:39,536 --> 00:18:41,246 The volcano. 278 00:18:41,371 --> 00:18:45,584 I don't think anybody gave the volcano more than a sort of sideways glance 279 00:18:45,709 --> 00:18:46,835 when we went down there. 280 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,132 There was this thing called a soufrière, which was a bubbling sulfur springs, 281 00:18:52,257 --> 00:18:54,510 but it was seen as one of the local tourist attractions. 282 00:18:54,635 --> 00:18:56,470 It wasn't seen as anything dangerous. 283 00:18:56,595 --> 00:19:00,098 I was always like, "Are you sure you wanna be on this island with this?" 284 00:19:00,224 --> 00:19:03,268 Because the volcano was always sort of not going off, 285 00:19:03,393 --> 00:19:07,731 but it was always, like, a possibility. It was never, like, completely quiet. 286 00:19:07,856 --> 00:19:11,151 You'd sit on the veranda and just listen. 287 00:19:11,276 --> 00:19:15,948 And... I remember thinking a few times, 288 00:19:16,073 --> 00:19:19,451 "Well, what if that volcano suddenly went off?" 289 00:19:19,576 --> 00:19:22,162 I'm from Chicago, we don't do volcanoes. 290 00:19:22,287 --> 00:19:24,289 (BOOGIE WONDERLAND PLAYING) 291 00:19:24,414 --> 00:19:25,666 ♪ Dance 292 00:19:27,084 --> 00:19:29,169 ♪ Boogie wonderland 293 00:19:30,045 --> 00:19:31,630 ♪ Ha, ha! 294 00:19:31,755 --> 00:19:32,756 ♪ Dance 295 00:19:34,091 --> 00:19:35,092 ♪ Boogie wonderland ♪ 296 00:19:35,217 --> 00:19:36,718 VERDINE WHITE: When we went to Montserrat, 297 00:19:36,844 --> 00:19:38,428 we had been coming off all those hit records, 298 00:19:38,554 --> 00:19:41,849 those big hits, and we wanted to pull away from that 299 00:19:41,974 --> 00:19:46,144 and be grounded, cos we were musicians first. 300 00:19:46,270 --> 00:19:48,897 So we wanted to go back to our roots and just play some music. 301 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:56,822 For us, the biggest thing was the whole experience of just going there. 302 00:19:56,947 --> 00:20:01,994 And I had heard the ladies that were working in the field with the machetes, 303 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,956 when they were bringing our equipment from the airport to the studio, 304 00:20:06,081 --> 00:20:09,501 you know, the big cases with Earth, Wind & Fire on them, 305 00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:12,379 they had their machetes and they dropped them and applauded. 306 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:16,592 Cos they knew we were coming. They just applauded the cases. 307 00:20:16,717 --> 00:20:19,845 We hadn't even gotten there yet. And it was beautiful. 308 00:20:19,970 --> 00:20:24,766 ♪ Why do you hang your head 309 00:20:25,434 --> 00:20:30,272 ♪ And never, never satisfy the loneliness you tread 310 00:20:31,732 --> 00:20:36,320 ♪ Spending your life in the falling rain... ♪ 311 00:20:36,445 --> 00:20:40,908 If anything, I think because of where it was, 312 00:20:41,033 --> 00:20:43,327 it touched our spirit in a different kind of way. 313 00:20:43,452 --> 00:20:46,663 You didn't feel anything other than just joy in the music. 314 00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:49,416 There was no rush either, there was no clock. 315 00:20:49,541 --> 00:20:51,752 And by being away from everything and everybody 316 00:20:51,877 --> 00:20:54,463 and from, "We need another hit record, we need another hit record." 317 00:20:54,588 --> 00:20:57,466 And we just put that aside, and said, "We're gonna do a double record." 318 00:20:57,591 --> 00:21:00,385 You know... And we're just gonna play some music. 319 00:21:00,511 --> 00:21:04,556 And we actually mapped out the whole record there. 320 00:21:04,681 --> 00:21:06,975 Top to bottom, just in conversation. 321 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:10,354 It was the early '80s. Record company budgets were reasonable, 322 00:21:10,479 --> 00:21:15,192 and afforded artists to go and take over a studio for a while, 323 00:21:15,317 --> 00:21:16,568 a residential studio. 324 00:21:16,693 --> 00:21:20,322 So when you went to Montserrat, it was yours. 325 00:21:20,447 --> 00:21:22,157 It was your environment. 326 00:21:22,282 --> 00:21:26,578 Your bar, your kitchen, your whole place. 327 00:21:26,703 --> 00:21:31,458 So it was something that was really quite special. 328 00:21:31,583 --> 00:21:35,337 There weren't many residential studios of that quality. 329 00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:40,259 It was like it was all one big band. It was like everybody was in the band. 330 00:21:40,384 --> 00:21:44,388 George the cook was in the band, the housekeeper was in the band. 331 00:21:44,513 --> 00:21:47,266 It just all kind of overlapped, it was not separate. 332 00:21:47,391 --> 00:21:50,102 It was like one big beautiful thing. 333 00:21:50,227 --> 00:21:53,146 FRANCIS: Earth, Wind & Fire were very lovely. 334 00:21:53,272 --> 00:21:55,941 They came right here in this house. 335 00:21:56,066 --> 00:22:00,571 I invite them to come for dinner. Some of them came. 336 00:22:00,696 --> 00:22:04,116 And when they came, I had a daughter, a pretty daughter. 337 00:22:04,241 --> 00:22:05,868 One of them wanted the daughter, 338 00:22:05,993 --> 00:22:09,329 but he didn't get that chance. (LAUGHS) 339 00:22:09,454 --> 00:22:12,958 STEVE JACKSON: The staff all had their own quirks. 340 00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:14,918 Blues, one of the drivers, 341 00:22:15,043 --> 00:22:17,838 whenever he wanted to say something, he'd go, "Let me talk." 342 00:22:17,963 --> 00:22:20,757 Earth, Wind & Fire have a track on that album called Let Me Talk. 343 00:22:20,883 --> 00:22:24,928 For a band to come in and write a song about a driver, 344 00:22:25,053 --> 00:22:26,889 must've had an influence. 345 00:22:27,014 --> 00:22:29,474 I think in order to build a studio that people love, 346 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,518 it's all based around the staff. 347 00:22:31,643 --> 00:22:33,645 Montserrat was a bit like Fawlty Towers. 348 00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:36,148 It had these crazy characters running around. 349 00:22:36,273 --> 00:22:40,569 Because it was a single studio space, with no other bands there, 350 00:22:40,694 --> 00:22:43,614 the characters that worked in the studios themselves 351 00:22:43,739 --> 00:22:45,657 became part of people's lives. 352 00:22:45,782 --> 00:22:48,577 Tappy Morgan, or George Morgan, was the chef. 353 00:22:48,702 --> 00:22:50,037 He was great. He was very emotional. 354 00:22:50,162 --> 00:22:53,457 We all remember George, the chef, I think. 355 00:22:54,374 --> 00:22:57,377 He was quite an imposing gentleman. 356 00:22:57,503 --> 00:22:59,588 GEORGE "TAPPY" MORGAN: That was the best job 357 00:22:59,713 --> 00:23:00,964 I ever had in my entire life. 358 00:23:01,089 --> 00:23:06,136 Every band... gave me a big tip. 359 00:23:06,261 --> 00:23:08,055 And you know the reason why? 360 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:11,350 Because I made them good food. And everybody was happy. 361 00:23:11,475 --> 00:23:16,104 Phil Collins, Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Paul McCartney. 362 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:21,985 All the guys liked the island. They called it Strangers' Paradise. 363 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:24,696 (HAPPINESS PLAYING) 364 00:23:34,831 --> 00:23:36,375 Do you want something else to drink? 365 00:23:54,184 --> 00:23:59,273 We would all be in the office, and we had this telex machine. 366 00:23:59,398 --> 00:24:02,901 Remember we didn't have email or any of this stuff in those days. 367 00:24:03,026 --> 00:24:07,072 We would be there, and suddenly you would hear tap, tap, tap... 368 00:24:07,197 --> 00:24:10,242 And we would walk out there and have a look. 369 00:24:10,367 --> 00:24:14,955 "Paul McCartney, 2nd February to 28th February." 370 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,415 And that would be it. 371 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:19,459 (HUMS MELODY) 372 00:24:21,628 --> 00:24:23,088 Something like that. 373 00:24:23,213 --> 00:24:26,925 ♪ I've been wandering without you by my side 374 00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:30,179 ♪ Without you by my side ♪ 375 00:24:31,722 --> 00:24:34,474 I know what it is. You need to go to the G. 376 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,727 (SINGS) 377 00:24:38,228 --> 00:24:41,732 MCCARTNEY: After the Beatles, none of us wanted to work with George. 378 00:24:41,857 --> 00:24:44,776 It wasn't that we didn't want to be produced by him. 379 00:24:44,902 --> 00:24:50,240 We all would have loved the discipline and the expertise that George has, 380 00:24:50,365 --> 00:24:52,326 but it was that he'd been associated with the Beatles. 381 00:24:52,451 --> 00:24:54,703 GEORGE MARTIN: We were very apprehensive about it to begin with, 382 00:24:54,828 --> 00:24:55,871 both of us I think, 383 00:24:55,996 --> 00:24:59,166 because although we've been very good friends over the years, 384 00:24:59,291 --> 00:25:04,213 not having actually had to have the hassles of working, 385 00:25:04,338 --> 00:25:07,007 we were all a little bit not sure about it. 386 00:25:07,132 --> 00:25:11,887 GILES MARTIN: At that stage, Paul was working with my father near London 387 00:25:12,012 --> 00:25:14,765 on two albums, Tug of War and Pipes of Peace, 388 00:25:14,890 --> 00:25:17,226 and my father persuaded Paul to go to Montserrat. 389 00:25:17,351 --> 00:25:21,438 ATKIN: Because I was the chief engineer, I got the call from George, like, 390 00:25:21,563 --> 00:25:23,232 "You built this place." 391 00:25:23,357 --> 00:25:27,110 If Paul McCartney's coming in and it's a success, 392 00:25:27,236 --> 00:25:29,821 it's like getting the housekeeping seal of approval. 393 00:25:29,947 --> 00:25:31,657 So, it better work. 394 00:25:31,782 --> 00:25:35,619 REPORTER: It's now 14 hours since John Lennon was shot here, 395 00:25:35,744 --> 00:25:39,331 at the entrance to the Dakota Building on West 72nd Street 396 00:25:39,456 --> 00:25:42,084 in the center of New York. In those 14 hours, 397 00:25:42,209 --> 00:25:46,046 there has been a crowd here standing in more or less silent vigils. 398 00:25:46,171 --> 00:25:49,049 The flowers have been piling up at the gate. 399 00:25:58,767 --> 00:26:01,436 GEORGE MARTIN: I feel frightfully sorry for Yoko and Sean, 400 00:26:01,562 --> 00:26:04,064 and all the people who loved him so much. 401 00:26:04,189 --> 00:26:07,901 I also feel very angry, that it's such a senseless thing to happen, 402 00:26:08,026 --> 00:26:11,154 that one of the great people that have happened this century 403 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,366 can be just wiped out by madness. I'm very angry about it. 404 00:26:21,456 --> 00:26:22,791 ATKIN: Paul came down to the island, 405 00:26:22,916 --> 00:26:25,878 sadly only a few weeks after Lennon died. 406 00:26:26,003 --> 00:26:28,881 And it was touch and go before Christmas 407 00:26:29,006 --> 00:26:31,550 as to whether this actually was going to happen. 408 00:26:31,675 --> 00:26:34,595 They were very, very nervous. 409 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,015 An entire security firm from New York City flew down 410 00:26:38,140 --> 00:26:39,933 ahead of the band arriving. 411 00:26:41,018 --> 00:26:45,856 And they would go everywhere, just to protect the band. 412 00:26:45,981 --> 00:26:49,318 And they didn't even have a good time, because they were just being a nuisance. 413 00:26:49,443 --> 00:26:51,153 You don't need that security in Montserrat. 414 00:26:52,029 --> 00:26:54,573 ROSE WILLOCK: You need to understand, that in Montserrat, 415 00:26:54,698 --> 00:26:59,995 if you're a cricketer or an athlete, 416 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,080 people will be asking for your autograph. 417 00:27:02,206 --> 00:27:06,043 If you're a musician, they hear you on the radio all the time, no big deal. 418 00:27:06,168 --> 00:27:08,337 So they sent their security guards packing. 419 00:27:08,462 --> 00:27:12,508 They would chill out in Kinsale, in Salem, at the local bars. 420 00:27:12,633 --> 00:27:14,551 Just chill out like how we are right now, 421 00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:17,304 and drink and get drunk and carry on and all of that, no big deal. 422 00:27:17,763 --> 00:27:20,641 ♪ Well, I used to fly when I was a kid 423 00:27:20,766 --> 00:27:24,102 ♪ And I didn't cry if it hurt a bit 424 00:27:24,228 --> 00:27:26,980 ♪ On a carpet ride to a foreign land 425 00:27:27,105 --> 00:27:29,983 ♪ At the time of Davy Crockett 426 00:27:31,568 --> 00:27:34,238 ♪ But it wasn't always such a pretty sight 427 00:27:34,363 --> 00:27:37,783 ♪ Cos we used to fight like cats and dogs 428 00:27:37,908 --> 00:27:40,827 ♪ Till we made it up in the ballroom 429 00:27:42,621 --> 00:27:48,085 ♪ Ballroom dancing made a man of me 430 00:27:48,877 --> 00:27:51,672 ♪ One, two, three, four ♪ 431 00:27:52,923 --> 00:27:56,176 JACKSON: Paul turned up with a whole entourage of stars. 432 00:27:56,301 --> 00:27:59,847 Through Carl Perkins and Stanley Clarke on bass 433 00:27:59,972 --> 00:28:01,765 and Stevie Wonder, of course. 434 00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:03,851 MCCARTNEY: I had this song called Ebony and Ivory, 435 00:28:03,976 --> 00:28:06,395 which is about harmony between races. 436 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,272 Because it was Ebony and Ivory, 437 00:28:08,397 --> 00:28:11,275 I thought, "I'll be the ivory, so I need an ebony." 438 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,654 So, I thought my best choice would be Stevie Wonder, if I could get him. 439 00:28:15,779 --> 00:28:21,159 So, I telephoned Stevie and said, "Do you like the idea of doing this?" 440 00:28:21,285 --> 00:28:24,830 And he said, "Yeah." So he came down to Montserrat. 441 00:28:24,955 --> 00:28:27,416 (EBONY AND IVORY PLAYING) 442 00:28:27,541 --> 00:28:32,296 ♪ Ebony and ivory 443 00:28:32,421 --> 00:28:37,885 ♪ Live together in perfect harmony 444 00:28:38,010 --> 00:28:42,556 ♪ Side by side on my piano keyboard 445 00:28:42,681 --> 00:28:47,644 ♪ Oh Lord, why don't we? ♪ 446 00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:50,898 JACKSON: I think they liked the whole experience. 447 00:28:51,023 --> 00:28:55,944 When the recording was going well and everything was happening, 448 00:28:56,069 --> 00:28:59,281 they'd take some time off, and they wanted to go and play. 449 00:28:59,406 --> 00:29:02,659 So they'd go down to the local bar and they would jam. 450 00:29:02,993 --> 00:29:05,579 There was one night, Stevie said to me, 451 00:29:05,704 --> 00:29:08,665 "I wanna go and play somewhere. Can you fix it up?" I said, "Sure." 452 00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:13,378 I phoned up the Agouti and I said, "Is your piano plugged in on the stage?" 453 00:29:13,504 --> 00:29:16,173 And they said, "Yeah, but we're just about to close." 454 00:29:16,298 --> 00:29:20,260 And I said, "No, don't do that. Don't you close tonight." 455 00:29:20,385 --> 00:29:22,471 And Stevie went down there and played. 456 00:29:22,596 --> 00:29:25,265 He played there till four in the morning. 457 00:29:27,309 --> 00:29:30,062 WONDER: ♪ I've enjoyed my stay here in Montserrat 458 00:29:30,187 --> 00:29:31,980 (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 459 00:29:34,233 --> 00:29:36,777 ♪ You know, this is my first time coming out ♪ 460 00:29:37,819 --> 00:29:39,530 So, at the end of the night... 461 00:29:39,655 --> 00:29:42,324 At that time, we were playing for ten percent of the bar. 462 00:29:42,449 --> 00:29:45,494 Whatever the bar take was, we would get ten percent. 463 00:29:45,619 --> 00:29:48,330 That night, we got a lot of money 464 00:29:48,455 --> 00:29:52,543 because Stevie Wonder left US$5,000 in the bar for the band. 465 00:29:52,668 --> 00:29:55,879 So among the five of us, we got about US$1,000 each. 466 00:29:56,004 --> 00:29:57,965 That was our biggest payday. (LAUGHS) 467 00:29:58,090 --> 00:29:59,675 For us, in Montserrat, 468 00:30:00,634 --> 00:30:05,013 it was just amazing. There's not a word to describe that. 469 00:30:05,138 --> 00:30:08,809 And in someplace else, you couldn't pay for it. 470 00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:12,855 ♪ And you know my friend, Paul McCartney 471 00:30:15,065 --> 00:30:17,818 ♪ One of the nicest people I've ever met 472 00:30:17,943 --> 00:30:19,778 (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 473 00:30:25,033 --> 00:30:26,743 ♪ And the members of this band 474 00:30:26,869 --> 00:30:29,997 ♪ And all the people at the studio and staff 475 00:30:30,122 --> 00:30:33,166 ♪ I never will forget 476 00:30:37,045 --> 00:30:41,008 I want everybody to say this. Say it. Wait. 477 00:30:41,133 --> 00:30:42,551 ♪ Montserrat 478 00:30:42,676 --> 00:30:43,719 Say it. 479 00:30:43,844 --> 00:30:46,513 -AUDIENCE: ♪ Montserrat ♪ -WONDER: ♪ Montserrat ♪ 480 00:30:46,638 --> 00:30:48,015 Say it. 481 00:30:48,140 --> 00:30:50,601 -AUDIENCE: ♪ Montserrat -WONDER AND AUDIENCE: ♪ Montserrat ♪ 482 00:30:50,726 --> 00:30:52,561 WONDER: Say it. 483 00:30:52,686 --> 00:30:54,479 ATKIN: When Stevie Wonder arrived, 484 00:30:54,605 --> 00:30:57,774 he and Paul were having such a good time in the studio, 485 00:30:57,900 --> 00:30:59,610 the sessions were overrunning 486 00:30:59,735 --> 00:31:03,405 and Paul, I think he had Air Force Two booked 487 00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:06,241 to go back from Antigua back to London. 488 00:31:06,366 --> 00:31:08,911 I can remember sitting next to the telex machine 489 00:31:09,036 --> 00:31:11,455 and this huge great telex comes rattling through saying, 490 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:13,415 "If you don't get here in the next two hours, 491 00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:15,542 we have to change the crews out again 492 00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:18,712 and it will cost you another $10,000," or whatever it was. 493 00:31:18,837 --> 00:31:23,383 And I just kind of turned to John at the time and just said, 494 00:31:24,343 --> 00:31:27,930 "That's about what we're charging him a week, isn't it?" (LAUGHS) 495 00:31:32,601 --> 00:31:36,772 JACKSON: When the band finished, we took them all to the airport, 496 00:31:36,897 --> 00:31:41,777 we loaded them on their planes, waved our bye-byes, and they all left. 497 00:31:41,902 --> 00:31:45,989 We would all drive up to St George's Hill 498 00:31:46,114 --> 00:31:49,576 and we would all sit up there, maybe having a beer, 499 00:31:49,701 --> 00:31:53,789 really not saying much, just clearing our heads. 500 00:31:53,914 --> 00:31:56,208 And then, OK, back to the studio. 501 00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:59,878 And that was it. Relaxation over and we'd get back. 502 00:32:00,003 --> 00:32:03,882 But that was special, we'd just gotten through a gig, 503 00:32:04,007 --> 00:32:06,718 and everything was done, everything was fine. 504 00:32:06,844 --> 00:32:09,638 Now we were going back to get ready for the next one. 505 00:32:09,763 --> 00:32:14,768 1981, we didn't have a day off. We worked back to back. 506 00:32:14,893 --> 00:32:17,271 (ROXANNE PLAYING) 507 00:32:19,147 --> 00:32:22,901 ANDY SUMMERS: We were coming out of the punk scene in London, 508 00:32:23,026 --> 00:32:27,781 which went from about 1977 to about 1980. 509 00:32:27,906 --> 00:32:29,283 Then it sort of petered out. 510 00:32:29,408 --> 00:32:32,494 But it was a wonderful, colorful moment in music history. 511 00:32:32,619 --> 00:32:36,331 It was the crucible for The Police, that's where we started. 512 00:32:36,456 --> 00:32:38,667 ♪ Roxanne 513 00:32:39,793 --> 00:32:42,546 ♪ You don't have to put on the red light ♪ 514 00:32:42,671 --> 00:32:44,923 STING: The Police made three albums 515 00:32:45,048 --> 00:32:51,638 in dingy, sunless recording studios in England and in Holland, 516 00:32:52,264 --> 00:32:55,976 where we would work from ten in the evening till dawn. 517 00:32:56,101 --> 00:32:59,897 And we lived that kind of existence for a couple of years. 518 00:33:02,941 --> 00:33:06,069 Welcome to MTV Music Television, 519 00:33:06,195 --> 00:33:10,199 the world's first 24-hour stereo video music channel. 520 00:33:10,324 --> 00:33:14,077 STING: I think the success of The Police really was a happy accident, 521 00:33:14,203 --> 00:33:18,624 because it was the beginning of the MTV era, 522 00:33:18,749 --> 00:33:23,212 and we had a whole slew of videos we'd already made 523 00:33:23,337 --> 00:33:28,634 and there was this channel, custom-built to receive these videos. 524 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:35,516 And we became a staple on MTV, which, of course, added to our success. 525 00:33:36,475 --> 00:33:38,727 -STING: It's nice to be here in Athens. -(CROWD CHEERING) 526 00:33:40,729 --> 00:33:43,357 What d'you call the place? Athena or something? 527 00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:46,360 STEWART COPELAND: By the third album, we'd had a couple of hits 528 00:33:46,485 --> 00:33:47,903 and the record company are saying, 529 00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:51,532 "This is now going to be the big one, if you get this next album right." 530 00:33:51,657 --> 00:33:54,368 And the record company were there with us to ensure 531 00:33:54,493 --> 00:33:58,038 that we did not stray from the path of commercial success. 532 00:33:58,163 --> 00:34:03,669 So, for the next album we went 12 hours' flight away from the record company, 533 00:34:03,794 --> 00:34:07,214 down in the Caribbean, at Montserrat Studios. 534 00:34:07,339 --> 00:34:08,966 ♪ As I walk into a room 535 00:34:09,091 --> 00:34:10,717 ♪ I'm a three-line whip 536 00:34:10,842 --> 00:34:12,386 ♪ I'm the sort of thing they ban 537 00:34:12,511 --> 00:34:13,762 ♪ I'm a walking disaster 538 00:34:13,887 --> 00:34:15,389 ♪ I'm a demolition man ♪ 539 00:34:18,225 --> 00:34:21,978 STING: And it just looked like we would have died and gone to heaven. 540 00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:27,609 Because there was a tropical sea and beautiful skies, 541 00:34:27,734 --> 00:34:31,822 and jungle and a swimming pool right outside of the studio. 542 00:34:31,947 --> 00:34:36,076 And you could actually see the daylight through the studio. 543 00:34:36,994 --> 00:34:39,580 This was sort of the rock-star dream. 544 00:34:39,705 --> 00:34:43,500 A fantastic state-of-the-art studio in the Caribbean. 545 00:34:43,625 --> 00:34:46,003 I mean, this was it, this was like the Beatles or something. 546 00:34:46,128 --> 00:34:49,882 We sort of reached the pinnacle with going to those studios. 547 00:34:50,007 --> 00:34:51,675 STING: George would come in occasionally, 548 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,092 but he wasn't our producer. 549 00:34:53,217 --> 00:34:55,344 Our producer was a man called Hugh Padgham. 550 00:34:55,469 --> 00:35:00,142 George was more of a presiding genius around. 551 00:35:00,267 --> 00:35:03,687 He was rarely in the studio with us. 552 00:35:04,563 --> 00:35:07,274 The team were wonderful. They looked after us. 553 00:35:07,399 --> 00:35:12,487 I would run up the hill every morning from the villa and jump in the pool, 554 00:35:12,613 --> 00:35:16,617 and then write lyrics or write a tune, and then make the album. 555 00:35:16,742 --> 00:35:19,703 I developed a relationship with the island 556 00:35:19,828 --> 00:35:21,496 and the people who live there. 557 00:35:21,622 --> 00:35:26,668 I learned to windsurf on Montserrat. I was taught by a guy called Danny. 558 00:35:26,793 --> 00:35:30,214 He was very patient with me because I was a very slow learner. 559 00:35:30,339 --> 00:35:33,884 He's a very brilliant man, very good friend of mine. 560 00:35:34,968 --> 00:35:36,178 Respects me much. 561 00:35:36,303 --> 00:35:42,184 He said, "Danny, you taught me something that I'd never known how to do. 562 00:35:42,309 --> 00:35:45,062 The people teach me or taught me things, 563 00:35:45,187 --> 00:35:48,273 they are my hero, and you are one of my hero." 564 00:35:48,398 --> 00:35:50,192 Right, the dance steps. 565 00:35:50,317 --> 00:35:52,778 (SNAPS FINGERS) 566 00:35:55,822 --> 00:35:58,825 ♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh 567 00:35:59,826 --> 00:36:02,412 ♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh 568 00:36:03,580 --> 00:36:06,500 ♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh 569 00:36:07,167 --> 00:36:10,128 ♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh 570 00:36:11,547 --> 00:36:14,383 ♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh ♪ 571 00:36:14,508 --> 00:36:19,263 OLIVER: We did some backing vocals for The Police. 572 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,098 RILEY: It was quite funny, actually. 573 00:36:21,223 --> 00:36:24,935 Twice, I went into the studio to do backing vocals. 574 00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:26,103 They're the same. 575 00:36:26,228 --> 00:36:28,397 -Everybody come and sing. -Everybody come and sing. 576 00:36:28,522 --> 00:36:31,984 -They wanted, like, a choir. -Sound like a choir. 577 00:36:32,109 --> 00:36:34,528 (BACKING TRACK PLAYS) 578 00:36:34,653 --> 00:36:36,572 -Hang on, stop. -(MUSIC STOPS) 579 00:36:36,697 --> 00:36:38,282 OK, I understand. 580 00:36:38,407 --> 00:36:41,201 COPELAND: By this time in our career, our main songwriter had a technique, 581 00:36:41,326 --> 00:36:44,413 which is to not reveal his songs until we needed them. 582 00:36:44,538 --> 00:36:49,793 And this song came in and we heard the demo, 583 00:36:49,918 --> 00:36:51,628 and we all could hear right away 584 00:36:51,753 --> 00:36:55,299 that the demo Sting made by himself, it's already a hit. 585 00:36:55,424 --> 00:36:57,134 Just put that sucker out right away. 586 00:36:57,259 --> 00:37:00,596 But that didn't suit our self-image as a band. 587 00:37:00,721 --> 00:37:04,016 (SONG CONTINUES) 588 00:37:07,603 --> 00:37:11,106 And we tried every way. The punk version, the reggae version. 589 00:37:11,231 --> 00:37:15,152 And so, eventually, one morning I arrived in the studio, "Fuck it! 590 00:37:15,277 --> 00:37:18,780 Just fucking play your fucked-up demo, 591 00:37:18,906 --> 00:37:21,867 just fucking... just tell me where the fucking changes are!" 592 00:37:21,992 --> 00:37:25,037 I knew where the changes were, because we'd tried it every which way. 593 00:37:25,162 --> 00:37:27,664 It's a complicated song with a lot of different parts. 594 00:37:27,789 --> 00:37:30,542 And so, "OK, roll tape and I'll play with the demo." 595 00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:33,545 And we did, and the record that is the record 596 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:38,342 is that morning recording of that song in one take. 597 00:37:38,467 --> 00:37:41,053 ♪ Every little thing she does is magic 598 00:37:41,178 --> 00:37:43,722 ♪ Everything she do just turns me on 599 00:37:44,389 --> 00:37:46,892 ♪ Even though my life before was tragic 600 00:37:47,017 --> 00:37:49,645 ♪ Now I know my love for her goes on 601 00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:53,273 ♪ Every little thing she does is magic 602 00:37:53,398 --> 00:37:55,526 ♪ Everything she do just turns me on 603 00:37:55,651 --> 00:37:58,445 ♪ Even though my life before was tragic 604 00:37:58,570 --> 00:38:02,491 ♪ Now I know my love for her goes on ♪ 605 00:38:02,616 --> 00:38:05,369 Then we recorded in the studio. 606 00:38:05,494 --> 00:38:10,332 I think Andy was dancing on George's prized mixing desk, 607 00:38:10,457 --> 00:38:12,251 which didn't go down well with Mr. Martin. 608 00:38:12,376 --> 00:38:14,753 But he didn't harm it. He was very light. 609 00:38:14,878 --> 00:38:16,505 We just had fun, it was a fun video. 610 00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:17,673 ♪ Magic 611 00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:20,634 ♪ Magic, magic, magic 612 00:38:20,759 --> 00:38:23,387 ♪ Whoa-oh 613 00:38:23,512 --> 00:38:25,389 ♪ Yo-oh 614 00:38:26,515 --> 00:38:29,560 ♪ Ee-oh-oh-oh, oh ♪ 615 00:38:29,685 --> 00:38:32,521 SUMMERS: Being on an island like that, you can be in the bungalow 616 00:38:32,646 --> 00:38:35,190 in a dry, dusty patch of sand down near the beach, 617 00:38:35,315 --> 00:38:37,860 and you'll be on your own, there is no one else. 618 00:38:37,985 --> 00:38:41,697 So it was kind of isolating, and it brought out some really good things. 619 00:38:41,822 --> 00:38:44,491 Ghost in the Machine was another major hit album, 620 00:38:44,616 --> 00:38:49,246 but my wife called me and said, "I want to get divorced," that's it. 621 00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:55,210 In fact, I think was all three of us probably got divorced 622 00:38:55,335 --> 00:38:58,714 or started divorce proceedings during Ghost in the Machine. 623 00:39:02,342 --> 00:39:07,931 STING: It was a period of stratospheric success. 624 00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,395 The part of that, the speed and the size of that success, 625 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,398 also distorts your perception of it. 626 00:39:16,899 --> 00:39:20,736 And we were so filled with this forward momentum, 627 00:39:20,861 --> 00:39:23,989 we didn't really get a chance to appreciate it, 628 00:39:24,114 --> 00:39:28,285 except for Montserrat, which allowed us to calm down. 629 00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:30,412 (SERENE MUSIC PLAYING) 630 00:39:46,929 --> 00:39:50,224 COOPER: Music is the liquid architecture of our emotions, 631 00:39:50,349 --> 00:39:51,767 and George was a wonderful architect. 632 00:39:51,892 --> 00:39:55,646 He had a way of putting things in place, in the right place. 633 00:39:55,771 --> 00:40:00,984 In a place that was comfortable and a place that grew, it was fruitful. 634 00:40:03,153 --> 00:40:05,614 (BIRDS CALL) 635 00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:08,450 (BENNIE AND THE JETS PLAYING) 636 00:40:08,575 --> 00:40:10,911 (CHEERING) 637 00:40:15,457 --> 00:40:18,418 ♪ Hey, kids, shake it loose together 638 00:40:18,544 --> 00:40:21,338 ♪ The spotlight's hitting something... ♪ 639 00:40:21,463 --> 00:40:25,467 The first main wave of success for Elton and the band 640 00:40:25,592 --> 00:40:32,599 was really from, like, 1971, '72 till '76. 641 00:40:32,724 --> 00:40:35,269 Just a four-piece with Elton, me, Dee and Nigel. 642 00:40:35,394 --> 00:40:38,105 We'd made all those classic records in the '70s, 643 00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:40,941 and then there was a gap where we weren't all together. 644 00:40:41,066 --> 00:40:42,985 We all did different things. Elton retired. 645 00:40:43,110 --> 00:40:48,782 And he called me in '81 and said, "I'm gonna put the band back together." 646 00:40:50,242 --> 00:40:51,243 I don't know. 647 00:40:51,368 --> 00:40:55,622 CHRIS THOMAS: I was recording with Elton, in Paris, 648 00:40:55,747 --> 00:40:58,208 and we weren't getting much done. 649 00:40:58,876 --> 00:41:04,506 Um... that's the diplomatic answer. (LAUGHS) 650 00:41:04,631 --> 00:41:07,968 I spoke to Elton's manager. 651 00:41:08,093 --> 00:41:11,555 He went to see Elton, and all of a sudden... 652 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,559 This was, I think, on a Tuesday and we were flying back to London. 653 00:41:15,684 --> 00:41:19,354 And I was told that we were actually going to Montserrat on Friday. 654 00:41:22,608 --> 00:41:26,236 We arrived there, and it was just such a shock to suddenly be there. 655 00:41:26,361 --> 00:41:30,157 It was like, "Oi! What are we doing here?" (LAUGHS) 656 00:41:30,282 --> 00:41:33,535 We had a couple of days to get over the jetlag, and then we were off. 657 00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:35,662 NIGEL OLSSON: Montserrat was a whole different deal. 658 00:41:35,787 --> 00:41:39,082 The room was fantastic. It just had a great atmosphere. 659 00:41:39,208 --> 00:41:42,961 It had George all over it, the studio. It was just so cool. 660 00:41:43,086 --> 00:41:46,548 I hadn't got any material before I arrived in Montserrat, 661 00:41:46,673 --> 00:41:49,176 and I wrote 12 songs there. 662 00:41:49,301 --> 00:41:51,678 It's always the danger that you might not be able to write. 663 00:41:51,803 --> 00:41:53,138 So I quite like that. 664 00:41:53,263 --> 00:41:55,432 For the first half an hour when I was trying to write, 665 00:41:55,557 --> 00:41:57,309 I couldn't write anything and I was panicking. 666 00:41:57,434 --> 00:42:01,230 But the way we write, it's very strange. With Bernie and I, it's something... 667 00:42:01,355 --> 00:42:03,815 It just works, there's a magic there. 668 00:42:03,941 --> 00:42:06,193 Until Too Low for Zero, with Elton and Bernie, 669 00:42:07,194 --> 00:42:08,570 it had been all over the place. 670 00:42:08,695 --> 00:42:11,865 They hadn't been together much, hadn't been writing together. 671 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:15,035 And this was the first album back. It was all Bernie. 672 00:42:16,078 --> 00:42:18,121 And all the original band. 673 00:42:18,247 --> 00:42:21,542 So it was quite a remarkable event. 674 00:42:21,667 --> 00:42:23,710 OLSSON: We were all on the same wavelength. 675 00:42:23,836 --> 00:42:27,172 We didn't have to tell each other how it should be. 676 00:42:27,297 --> 00:42:32,386 And the beauty also was that we heard the songs being written. 677 00:42:32,511 --> 00:42:34,513 So we were in there from the start. 678 00:42:34,638 --> 00:42:37,850 (I GUESS THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES PLAYING) 679 00:42:45,399 --> 00:42:46,942 JOHNSTONE: I remember the day 680 00:42:47,067 --> 00:42:49,653 that we wrote I Guess That's Why They Call It the Blues, 681 00:42:49,778 --> 00:42:53,448 because to me, it's one of the greatest love songs of all time. 682 00:42:53,574 --> 00:42:57,119 And we wrote it in 20 minutes. Again, it wasn't like a big thing. 683 00:42:57,244 --> 00:43:00,289 It was like, "OK, this, this, this. Yeah, that sounds great." 684 00:43:00,414 --> 00:43:02,249 And, "Let's get the guys in, let's record it." 685 00:43:02,374 --> 00:43:06,920 ♪ And I guess that's why they call it the blues 686 00:43:07,045 --> 00:43:09,423 ♪ Time on my hands 687 00:43:09,548 --> 00:43:13,010 ♪ Could be time spent with you 688 00:43:13,135 --> 00:43:15,762 ♪ Laughing like children 689 00:43:15,888 --> 00:43:19,141 ♪ Living like lovers 690 00:43:19,266 --> 00:43:21,810 ♪ Rolling like thunder 691 00:43:21,935 --> 00:43:24,813 ♪ Under the covers 692 00:43:26,231 --> 00:43:29,735 ♪ And I guess that's why they call it the blues ♪ 693 00:43:30,235 --> 00:43:32,779 THOMAS: There was something about being on the same site. 694 00:43:32,905 --> 00:43:38,327 It has this strange effect of bringing everybody together. 695 00:43:38,452 --> 00:43:40,787 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 696 00:43:43,665 --> 00:43:46,919 One day, Elton said, "Where'd did you go last night?" 697 00:43:47,044 --> 00:43:50,088 I said, "We went to this new place. We found this new place." 698 00:43:50,214 --> 00:43:52,841 He said, "Where is it?" I said, "I'll show you." 699 00:43:52,966 --> 00:43:55,677 So, we were driving along 700 00:43:55,802 --> 00:43:59,348 and we go past this totally rundown place 701 00:43:59,473 --> 00:44:02,017 with a bit of corrugated iron over the top. 702 00:44:02,142 --> 00:44:04,520 And Elton goes, "I love places like that. 703 00:44:04,645 --> 00:44:06,396 Nobody ever invites me to places like that." 704 00:44:06,522 --> 00:44:08,315 I'm going, "Yeah, sure!" 705 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,817 It's, you know, the bloke who lives in the Ritz all the time. 706 00:44:10,943 --> 00:44:12,694 So, we went there. 707 00:44:12,819 --> 00:44:17,032 All right now, this is where we do portionable dining. 708 00:44:17,157 --> 00:44:20,244 MORGAN: The Village Place was just like ordinary place, 709 00:44:20,369 --> 00:44:22,371 like in the ghetto, 710 00:44:22,496 --> 00:44:26,542 where everybody hangs around and they serve chicken wings 711 00:44:26,667 --> 00:44:29,837 and you go into the bar and have some bush rum. 712 00:44:30,254 --> 00:44:32,714 RILEY: But I liked Elton John very much, 713 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,926 because he makes the whole place lively, very lively. 714 00:44:36,051 --> 00:44:39,555 Yeah, whenever he come here, man, he just come out, 715 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,515 -and start dancing. -He's a good guy. 716 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,142 Just dancing in the yard. 717 00:44:44,268 --> 00:44:45,853 RILEY: He was a good guy. 718 00:44:45,978 --> 00:44:49,106 OLIVER: He would take off his shades and give it to whoever wanted it. 719 00:44:49,231 --> 00:44:54,111 Whenever he goes to the Village Place, the bar is open until he leave. 720 00:44:54,236 --> 00:44:57,531 Open bar. Anybody who come here, you get free drinks. 721 00:44:57,656 --> 00:45:02,035 He runs an open tab. That's him. He's very generous. 722 00:45:02,578 --> 00:45:05,706 Guys that are down, he brings them up, you know? 723 00:45:05,831 --> 00:45:07,124 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 724 00:45:07,249 --> 00:45:08,750 MICHAEL PAUL STAVROU: After dinner, 725 00:45:10,252 --> 00:45:14,590 we would all congregate back into the control room with piña coladas 726 00:45:14,715 --> 00:45:16,758 and sit back and listen to the album. 727 00:45:16,884 --> 00:45:23,015 And then, Elton would play it again. And then, a third time. 728 00:45:23,140 --> 00:45:25,517 About a week into the album, 729 00:45:25,642 --> 00:45:30,981 everybody went to bed after playing the album through only once, 730 00:45:31,106 --> 00:45:32,316 which upset Elton. 731 00:45:32,441 --> 00:45:34,902 He started ranting about something about throwing... 732 00:45:35,027 --> 00:45:37,613 "It was a shit album. I'm gonna throw the tapes in the pool." 733 00:45:37,738 --> 00:45:41,450 And Mike, very, very swiftly, brilliant idea, 734 00:45:41,575 --> 00:45:45,495 gave him about six blank two-inch tapes. 735 00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,415 Elton went out and threw the whole lot in the swimming pool. 736 00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:49,666 That could've been the album. 737 00:45:49,791 --> 00:45:52,252 (I'M STILL STANDING PLAYING) 738 00:45:58,884 --> 00:46:01,053 When we were working on Too Low for Zero, 739 00:46:01,178 --> 00:46:03,555 Dee had been suffering from cancer. 740 00:46:04,056 --> 00:46:07,476 So he wasn't in the studio all the time. 741 00:46:07,601 --> 00:46:10,854 Then we got a phone call one morning saying, 742 00:46:10,979 --> 00:46:13,815 "Nigel can't come in. He's not very well." 743 00:46:13,941 --> 00:46:17,069 So Elton went, "What the fuck?" 744 00:46:17,194 --> 00:46:20,864 He said, "They're all dropping like flies!" (LAUGHS) 745 00:46:20,989 --> 00:46:25,744 And over there in the distance, there's a kind of shelf by the window 746 00:46:25,869 --> 00:46:27,663 separating the control room and the studio, 747 00:46:27,788 --> 00:46:30,541 and there's this huge cloud of marijuana smoke. 748 00:46:30,666 --> 00:46:33,168 And lying there, absolutely prone, 749 00:46:33,293 --> 00:46:38,048 was Adrian who was in charge of all the logistics for the recordings. 750 00:46:38,173 --> 00:46:41,677 Out of this smoke this voice said, "Well, I'm still standing." 751 00:46:41,802 --> 00:46:46,014 Elton and I just looked at each other, we just collapsed with laughter. 752 00:46:46,139 --> 00:46:48,725 Then, the next minute, Elton picked himself up, 753 00:46:48,851 --> 00:46:51,478 phoned up Bernie and said, "I want you to write this song." 754 00:46:51,603 --> 00:46:53,438 ♪ I'm still standing 755 00:46:53,564 --> 00:46:54,940 ♪ Better than I ever did 756 00:46:56,525 --> 00:46:58,443 ♪ Looking like a true survivor 757 00:46:59,027 --> 00:47:01,196 ♪ Feeling like a little kid 758 00:47:02,364 --> 00:47:06,994 ♪ I'm still standing after all this time 759 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,706 ♪ Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind 760 00:47:12,374 --> 00:47:14,418 ♪ I'm still standing... ♪ 761 00:47:15,127 --> 00:47:17,254 JOHNSTONE: George Martin came down 762 00:47:17,379 --> 00:47:19,548 when we were there doing T oo Low for Zero. 763 00:47:19,673 --> 00:47:23,177 And later on, Chris told me that George had said to him 764 00:47:24,344 --> 00:47:26,763 that he couldn't believe the chemistry 765 00:47:26,889 --> 00:47:31,143 that was happening between the four of us in the studio. And... 766 00:47:32,144 --> 00:47:37,357 The only thing that he could liken it to was when he worked with the Beatles. 767 00:47:37,482 --> 00:47:40,527 When we heard that, it was like, "Shit, OK, I like that." 768 00:47:40,652 --> 00:47:43,572 I've got the same people around me now as I did 15 years ago. 769 00:47:43,697 --> 00:47:45,365 We've been through ups and downs. 770 00:47:45,490 --> 00:47:48,619 And the pleasure of it all is being able to share it with these people, 771 00:47:48,744 --> 00:47:50,954 and after all that time, still be with them, 772 00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,248 and I think we're playing better. 773 00:47:54,249 --> 00:47:55,542 And it feels fantastic 774 00:47:55,667 --> 00:47:58,545 to be able to get a second chance at having that enthusiasm. 775 00:47:58,670 --> 00:48:01,840 And so, that more than anything else, it means a lot to me. 776 00:48:01,965 --> 00:48:04,635 ♪ It's a little bit funny 777 00:48:05,469 --> 00:48:08,013 ♪ This feeling inside... 778 00:48:08,138 --> 00:48:09,223 ♪ Who can easily hide... ♪ 779 00:48:09,348 --> 00:48:11,099 ♪ I'm not one of those 780 00:48:11,225 --> 00:48:12,851 (LAUGHTER CONTINUES) 781 00:48:12,976 --> 00:48:15,521 ♪ Who can easily hide... ♪ 782 00:48:15,646 --> 00:48:19,525 ROBINSON: We did all have good, fun times. He did three albums with us. 783 00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:23,153 One time, he said that he was leaving at 21st December. 784 00:48:23,278 --> 00:48:27,324 We were all getting excited because Montserrat's carnival is at Christmas. 785 00:48:27,449 --> 00:48:32,204 So, we're all thinking, "Soon as the band have gone, we'll all be partying." 786 00:48:32,329 --> 00:48:35,582 And he's like, "I think I'll stay." So he stayed. 787 00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:37,584 We had a fantastic time. 788 00:48:37,709 --> 00:48:40,712 It was like a big family, sitting at the table, enjoying Christmas. 789 00:48:40,838 --> 00:48:46,134 So, maybe with Elton, the excesses were very, very big, 790 00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:47,386 but it didn't make him happy. 791 00:48:47,511 --> 00:48:50,639 It might not have been anything to do with Montserrat, 792 00:48:50,764 --> 00:48:54,935 but he did have an experience that quite changed him, obviously. 793 00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:58,856 (SINGING AND SAXOPHONE SOLO) 794 00:49:04,444 --> 00:49:07,406 OLSSON: It was a place that was put there 795 00:49:07,531 --> 00:49:12,369 for people to understand themselves, to inspire the world. 796 00:49:12,494 --> 00:49:16,915 Because there was a lot of stuff came out of Montserrat that is forever. 797 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,668 -One, two. -One, two. 798 00:49:20,627 --> 00:49:25,007 COOPER: In London, I was often overdubbing in the studios 799 00:49:25,132 --> 00:49:26,925 on work that had come from Montserrat. 800 00:49:27,050 --> 00:49:29,303 I would say sometimes, "This is from Montserrat." 801 00:49:29,428 --> 00:49:30,846 They'd say, "How did you know?" 802 00:49:30,971 --> 00:49:32,973 I'd say, "I can hear it, believe it or not." 803 00:49:33,098 --> 00:49:36,143 There's something in the air that's surrounding these notes. 804 00:49:36,268 --> 00:49:39,813 There's a sympathy between the notes, an understanding. 805 00:49:39,938 --> 00:49:41,773 That can only come when you're working with George 806 00:49:41,899 --> 00:49:43,775 or in one of his environments. 807 00:49:43,901 --> 00:49:45,360 (RIO PLAYING) 808 00:49:47,613 --> 00:49:53,160 ♪ Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand 809 00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:55,996 ♪ Just like that river 810 00:49:56,121 --> 00:49:59,416 ♪ Twisting through a dusty land ♪ 811 00:50:00,292 --> 00:50:02,419 IAN LITTLE: The '80s was probably 812 00:50:02,544 --> 00:50:07,216 one of the most inventive decades for pop music. 813 00:50:07,758 --> 00:50:12,429 You'd had the punk movement in '76, '77, then you had new wave, 814 00:50:12,554 --> 00:50:15,390 bridged the gap from the '70s into the '80s. 815 00:50:15,516 --> 00:50:18,352 And then you had this thing called the New Romantics, 816 00:50:18,477 --> 00:50:22,022 which was Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, Culture Club. 817 00:50:22,147 --> 00:50:24,191 And Duran were the biggest of the bunch. 818 00:50:24,316 --> 00:50:26,318 (FANS SHRIEK) 819 00:50:34,034 --> 00:50:36,578 RHODES: We'd just finished the Rio album, 820 00:50:36,703 --> 00:50:38,080 and we were chasing The Police, 821 00:50:38,747 --> 00:50:40,958 because they were a little bit older than us. 822 00:50:41,083 --> 00:50:44,378 They were ahead of us in America, and it was time to make another album. 823 00:50:44,503 --> 00:50:47,047 And then we thought, "We can't go back to England." 824 00:50:47,172 --> 00:50:51,176 Because it was just a little too crazy with all the hysteria at that point. 825 00:50:51,301 --> 00:50:53,512 We couldn't really move in the street. 826 00:50:53,637 --> 00:50:55,848 So we wanted to get as far away as we could. 827 00:50:55,973 --> 00:51:00,727 AIR Studios Montserrat looked very appealing from the brochures. 828 00:51:00,853 --> 00:51:04,857 And, of course, having George Martin involved, 829 00:51:04,982 --> 00:51:08,235 we figured that everything's gonna be perfect there. 830 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,237 (THE REFLEX PLAYING) 831 00:51:14,032 --> 00:51:18,495 RHODES: When we arrived, it was like being in a surrealist painting. 832 00:51:19,371 --> 00:51:23,333 You go, and there's black sand everywhere, and the volcano, 833 00:51:23,458 --> 00:51:26,712 and these giant iguanas. 834 00:51:26,837 --> 00:51:29,506 One thing that was a bit of a shock 835 00:51:29,631 --> 00:51:34,094 was that we were used to living our lives 836 00:51:34,219 --> 00:51:37,306 completely under media scrutiny. 837 00:51:37,431 --> 00:51:40,100 And it was days when you'd wake up 838 00:51:40,225 --> 00:51:44,062 and there'd be someone hiding in your hedge in your front garden. 839 00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:48,567 You'd have to draw the curtains quickly when you're having breakfast. 840 00:51:49,735 --> 00:51:54,072 So, suddenly there, there was no one. 841 00:51:54,198 --> 00:51:59,244 It was like suddenly going under water and there was silence. 842 00:51:59,369 --> 00:52:01,330 (INSECTS CHIRRUP) 843 00:52:04,917 --> 00:52:07,336 (THE REFLEX PLAYING) 844 00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:16,011 LITTLE: In Montserrat, we had fun. 845 00:52:16,136 --> 00:52:18,889 We're not that straight-laced. We're making rock 'n' roll. 846 00:52:19,014 --> 00:52:21,058 When we first arrived, 847 00:52:21,183 --> 00:52:25,729 and when we made it known to the staff at the studio 848 00:52:25,854 --> 00:52:27,523 that we wanted some grass, 849 00:52:27,648 --> 00:52:31,777 within, I don't know, 15 minutes, some kid arrived with a plant 850 00:52:31,902 --> 00:52:34,821 that he just uprooted and stuck in a carrier bag. 851 00:52:35,531 --> 00:52:41,203 RHODES: For Simon, he loves sunshine and he loves being outdoors 852 00:52:41,328 --> 00:52:43,288 and he loves boats and water. 853 00:52:43,413 --> 00:52:48,043 So it was a dream to be able to be at a studio in the Caribbean, 854 00:52:48,168 --> 00:52:53,298 do a few hours' work, then go off and have fun in the sea. 855 00:52:53,423 --> 00:52:58,136 For me, really hot climates and isolation, 856 00:52:58,262 --> 00:53:03,350 personally are not so great for creativity 857 00:53:03,475 --> 00:53:07,104 when you wanna do something with a little experimentation. 858 00:53:07,229 --> 00:53:12,150 And so I really had a bit of personality clash with it creatively. 859 00:53:12,276 --> 00:53:16,905 And I ended up working into the night mostly in the studio, 860 00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:20,576 because there was no disruptions, people weren't running out of the door 861 00:53:20,701 --> 00:53:22,744 to jump in the swimming pool every five minutes. 862 00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:25,122 And I could actually focus on things. 863 00:53:25,247 --> 00:53:28,000 But, having said that, when we were there, 864 00:53:28,125 --> 00:53:31,545 we got the basis for the Seven and the Ragged Tiger album, 865 00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:34,673 The Reflex and The Union of the Snake. 866 00:53:34,798 --> 00:53:38,218 ♪ The reflex is a lonely child 867 00:53:38,343 --> 00:53:42,222 ♪ Who's waiting by the park 868 00:53:42,347 --> 00:53:45,934 ♪ The reflex is in charge of finding 869 00:53:46,059 --> 00:53:49,771 ♪ Treasure in the dark 870 00:53:49,897 --> 00:53:53,025 ♪ And watching over lucky clover... ♪ 871 00:53:53,692 --> 00:53:57,946 Being in Montserrat, you certainly felt isolated from the real world. 872 00:53:58,071 --> 00:54:03,202 It did end up feeling like we were disconnected from the fans 873 00:54:03,327 --> 00:54:05,579 because we were just living in paradise, 874 00:54:05,704 --> 00:54:09,333 and that's why we decided we need to finish the album in a city. 875 00:54:09,917 --> 00:54:14,171 RHODES: We went to Montserrat with all good intentions, 876 00:54:14,296 --> 00:54:17,132 and to George Martin's great credit, 877 00:54:17,257 --> 00:54:21,011 he pulled off something that was pretty extraordinary. 878 00:54:21,136 --> 00:54:27,976 But I'm not sure that we were in the right headspace 879 00:54:28,727 --> 00:54:31,396 to make the kind of record there 880 00:54:31,522 --> 00:54:35,567 that might have been a little more chilled. 881 00:54:35,692 --> 00:54:38,445 We wanted to make something full of energy. 882 00:54:38,570 --> 00:54:40,447 Duran Duran came, and they were young. 883 00:54:40,572 --> 00:54:44,326 As they were there, I think two of them celebrated their 21st birthday. 884 00:54:44,451 --> 00:54:46,620 And they were at the height of their fame. 885 00:54:46,745 --> 00:54:52,000 So, of course, they were probably wanting to be in the jet-set place. 886 00:54:52,125 --> 00:54:53,836 So, it wasn't exactly right for them. 887 00:54:53,961 --> 00:54:57,923 We had some other bands like Ultravox. They were young at the time. 888 00:54:58,048 --> 00:55:00,300 Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, they came. 889 00:55:00,425 --> 00:55:02,052 But it was right for them 890 00:55:02,177 --> 00:55:04,680 because they were ready to enjoy what Montserrat offered. 891 00:55:23,949 --> 00:55:25,784 LOU REED: We went to Montserrat once and recorded. 892 00:55:25,909 --> 00:55:27,327 That wasn't a good experience for me. 893 00:55:27,452 --> 00:55:31,331 Palm trees and the ocean and the sand's too relaxing. 894 00:55:31,456 --> 00:55:32,666 I need to hear traffic. 895 00:55:39,423 --> 00:55:44,052 JOHNSTONE: They sold Valium over the counter, which was fucking insane 896 00:55:44,178 --> 00:55:46,597 because you'd walk into the store and go, 897 00:55:46,722 --> 00:55:49,725 "I'll have a bottle of shampoo, packet of razorblades, 898 00:55:49,850 --> 00:55:51,852 50 Valium and a Mars bar." 899 00:55:56,273 --> 00:56:00,194 We got on this little plane, propeller plane. 900 00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:03,822 And the pilot's got a joint in his hand. 901 00:56:03,947 --> 00:56:06,783 I'm going, "This doesn't look too safe." 902 00:56:12,164 --> 00:56:15,334 I've seen bands that came down and... 903 00:56:16,585 --> 00:56:20,714 changed, like, their work pattern. 904 00:56:20,839 --> 00:56:24,676 They say it themselves. "Wow! We did such and such in two days. 905 00:56:24,801 --> 00:56:27,721 It's unbelievable. We've never done that before. That was a six-week job." 906 00:56:32,267 --> 00:56:35,646 HARRIES: The place was like that. It made you intense. 907 00:56:35,771 --> 00:56:39,650 It sort of intensified everything that you were. 908 00:56:39,775 --> 00:56:44,613 But it also got a reputation for a place where you could get things done. 909 00:56:44,738 --> 00:56:48,158 One of the things that happened with a lot a very famous people 910 00:56:48,283 --> 00:56:51,745 was they lost sight of how they became famous. 911 00:56:51,870 --> 00:56:53,789 Coming to an island like this, 912 00:56:53,914 --> 00:56:57,042 you were shoved straight back into each other's faces 913 00:56:57,167 --> 00:56:58,710 and you had to go and make another album. 914 00:56:58,836 --> 00:57:00,921 But at the moment, I want to have a fight. 915 00:57:01,046 --> 00:57:03,298 Much better television than your questions, 916 00:57:03,423 --> 00:57:04,633 -I promise you. -OK. 917 00:57:04,758 --> 00:57:08,887 -Shall we film me whopping Sting? -Yes. That would be great. 918 00:57:09,012 --> 00:57:11,056 SUMMERS: The Police, album one, album two, 919 00:57:11,181 --> 00:57:13,559 it was us against the world. 920 00:57:13,684 --> 00:57:16,770 By the time we got up to Synchronicity, we were world-famous, 921 00:57:16,895 --> 00:57:19,982 everything had changed, and it was, "Why should we be a band anymore?" 922 00:57:20,107 --> 00:57:21,650 (TUNES GUITAR) 923 00:57:21,775 --> 00:57:23,360 Shall we tune the guitar for you, man? 924 00:57:23,485 --> 00:57:25,153 SUMMERS: So when we got back to Montserrat, 925 00:57:25,279 --> 00:57:27,990 we were so isolated from each other, 926 00:57:28,115 --> 00:57:30,868 that it got really difficult to... 927 00:57:30,993 --> 00:57:33,704 you know, imagine being in the studio and making a record. 928 00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:35,205 It was sort of icy. 929 00:57:35,330 --> 00:57:37,457 COPELAND: We went there for the isolation, 930 00:57:37,583 --> 00:57:40,294 but we soon found that without anything else around us, 931 00:57:40,419 --> 00:57:43,046 we had only each other to drive each other bananas. 932 00:57:43,172 --> 00:57:47,176 And we all saw the irony of it, 933 00:57:47,301 --> 00:57:49,678 although we were screaming and shouting at each other, 934 00:57:49,803 --> 00:57:55,184 that here we were in this paradise, which we soon turned into a living hell. 935 00:57:55,309 --> 00:57:56,977 MAN: Yeah! 936 00:57:57,102 --> 00:57:59,313 (GUITAR PLAYING) 937 00:58:01,231 --> 00:58:04,026 SUMMERS: I was the only one, personally, the guitar player 938 00:58:04,151 --> 00:58:06,778 in the studio itself, this recording room. 939 00:58:06,904 --> 00:58:10,782 Then there was the control room, where the Neve desk was. 940 00:58:10,908 --> 00:58:15,996 Sting was in there playing his bass, and Stewart was up in the dining room. 941 00:58:16,121 --> 00:58:18,290 We were playing together, but weren't seeing each other. 942 00:58:18,415 --> 00:58:20,959 We were all completely isolated and playing through headphones, 943 00:58:21,084 --> 00:58:22,211 which was sort of bizarre. 944 00:58:22,336 --> 00:58:24,505 What they all wanted in those days, 945 00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:27,341 this is a different period of recording techniques, 946 00:58:27,466 --> 00:58:29,468 was perfect separation. 947 00:58:29,593 --> 00:58:30,844 And that's what we had, 948 00:58:30,969 --> 00:58:33,972 and that's what we were gonna be as people too, perfect separation. 949 00:58:34,097 --> 00:58:37,017 COPELAND: I did not like recording in the dining room, 950 00:58:37,142 --> 00:58:40,229 because it was lonely and grumpy. 951 00:58:40,354 --> 00:58:44,566 And it wasn't the feeling of what I liked about the band, 952 00:58:44,691 --> 00:58:47,194 which was the interaction. 953 00:58:47,319 --> 00:58:50,364 That's what we did live and what's so exciting. 954 00:58:50,489 --> 00:58:54,368 But it was quite miserable. I couldn't wait to get off that island 955 00:58:54,493 --> 00:58:56,662 and put it behind me, and have it done. 956 00:58:57,454 --> 00:59:01,792 STING: Well, the conflict in the band is kind of storied 957 00:59:01,917 --> 00:59:04,002 and it may well be exaggerated. 958 00:59:04,878 --> 00:59:10,008 But for me, it was a function of the creative process. 959 00:59:10,133 --> 00:59:14,471 You have three alpha males trying to forge something 960 00:59:14,596 --> 00:59:17,307 that points in one direction and not three. 961 00:59:18,809 --> 00:59:21,270 We weren't physically aggressive with each other, 962 00:59:21,395 --> 00:59:23,230 but it got pretty heated in there 963 00:59:23,355 --> 00:59:28,151 but really because we cared passionately about what each of us were doing. 964 00:59:28,902 --> 00:59:33,323 And, um... But it was not easy. 965 00:59:33,448 --> 00:59:37,160 It was great to have an environment around us where you could escape to. 966 00:59:37,286 --> 00:59:40,289 I could go walking in the hills. 967 00:59:40,414 --> 00:59:42,749 In fact, I went up to the volcano a couple of times. 968 00:59:42,875 --> 00:59:47,004 You'd come back smelling of sulfur. People would think you'd been to hell. 969 00:59:47,129 --> 00:59:48,463 WOMAN: So, back to the top? 970 00:59:48,589 --> 00:59:50,257 -(MUSIC PLAYING) -(TAPE STOPS) 971 00:59:50,382 --> 00:59:55,387 It's OK. All right, yeah, it sounds OK. It's C, F and A now, yeah. 972 00:59:55,512 --> 00:59:57,264 SUMMERS: We got to a point fairly early on 973 00:59:57,389 --> 00:59:59,224 where we almost couldn't speak to each other. 974 00:59:59,349 --> 01:00:03,437 It was tense, the atmosphere was tense, like we shouldn't be doing this anymore. 975 01:00:03,562 --> 01:00:05,189 We need a producer. 976 01:00:05,314 --> 01:00:08,150 I said, "What about George Martin? He produced the Beatles. Surely?" 977 01:00:08,275 --> 01:00:11,987 And we were up there, so he'll probably take the job. 978 01:00:12,112 --> 01:00:14,990 Sting and Stewart said, "Well, you go and get him then." 979 01:00:15,115 --> 01:00:16,491 So I said, "Right, I will." 980 01:00:16,617 --> 01:00:19,953 We sat down and he said, "Would you like a cup of tea?" 981 01:00:20,078 --> 01:00:22,372 I said I'd have a cup of tea. So we're having a cup of tea. 982 01:00:22,497 --> 01:00:24,791 I start to tell him about the problems with the band. 983 01:00:24,917 --> 01:00:28,420 And I said, "We'd like you to come over and produce us." 984 01:00:28,545 --> 01:00:30,422 He said, "Um... not sure." 985 01:00:30,547 --> 01:00:32,758 Maybe he wasn't in the producing mood at that point. 986 01:00:32,883 --> 01:00:35,761 He said, "I think you can sort it out. You're grown-ups. 987 01:00:35,886 --> 01:00:39,223 Come on, I think you can do it. There's a lot at stake here." 988 01:00:39,348 --> 01:00:43,018 So, we had a very nice time having tea and chatting. 989 01:00:43,143 --> 01:00:46,355 I walked all the way back across the valley in the beating heat, 990 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,024 and we were all incredibly polite to one another 991 01:00:49,149 --> 01:00:51,401 and very nice for the rest of the album. 992 01:00:51,527 --> 01:00:52,569 That cured it. 993 01:00:52,694 --> 01:00:55,113 (EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE PLAYING) 994 01:01:07,459 --> 01:01:10,045 ♪ Every breath you take 995 01:01:11,171 --> 01:01:13,841 ♪ Every move you make 996 01:01:15,217 --> 01:01:17,094 ♪ Every bond you break 997 01:01:17,219 --> 01:01:19,137 ♪ Every step you take 998 01:01:19,263 --> 01:01:21,098 ♪ I'll be watching you... ♪ 999 01:01:21,557 --> 01:01:23,392 COPELAND: Every Breath You Take was very different 1000 01:01:23,517 --> 01:01:25,185 from most of our other recordings, 1001 01:01:25,310 --> 01:01:27,729 because it was pieced together bit by bit. 1002 01:01:27,855 --> 01:01:32,526 It was another song that we knew was a huge hit. 1003 01:01:32,651 --> 01:01:38,073 Do not mess with it, do not get in the way of a big hit. 1004 01:01:38,198 --> 01:01:43,203 So every element was recorded completely separately. 1005 01:01:43,328 --> 01:01:46,123 And the result is actually kinda cool. 1006 01:01:46,248 --> 01:01:49,960 It's very composed, all the parts are very composed. 1007 01:01:50,419 --> 01:01:54,923 And at the same time, emotionally very powerful. 1008 01:01:55,048 --> 01:01:59,094 ♪ Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace 1009 01:01:59,219 --> 01:02:03,265 ♪ I dream at night I can only see your face 1010 01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:07,436 ♪ I look around but it's you I can't replace 1011 01:02:07,561 --> 01:02:11,565 ♪ I feel so cold and I long for your embrace 1012 01:02:11,690 --> 01:02:18,697 ♪ I keep cryin', "Baby, baby, please" ♪ 1013 01:02:25,078 --> 01:02:28,373 You know, maybe the best music comes out of this sort of tension. 1014 01:02:28,498 --> 01:02:29,583 I've always believed that. 1015 01:02:29,708 --> 01:02:34,213 I think that The Police had three distinct personalities 1016 01:02:34,338 --> 01:02:37,758 which were not the ideal bedmates, because we weren't mellow guys. 1017 01:02:37,883 --> 01:02:43,722 But I think that firecracker complex is what sort of fuels the music. 1018 01:02:43,847 --> 01:02:47,059 In hindsight, it was worth it, and we could all see... 1019 01:02:47,184 --> 01:02:52,105 When we had calmed down, left the island and we went back to the real world, 1020 01:02:52,231 --> 01:02:53,607 all those battles that we'd fought 1021 01:02:53,732 --> 01:02:57,152 and arguments about what we were gonna do and how we were gonna do it, 1022 01:02:57,277 --> 01:03:00,364 they were worth it, because it really did light the thing up. 1023 01:03:00,489 --> 01:03:03,951 And we all can say that if I'd had my way every day, 1024 01:03:04,076 --> 01:03:06,620 it wouldn't have been a great album that it was. 1025 01:03:06,745 --> 01:03:09,790 If we had let Sting get away with every commandment, 1026 01:03:09,915 --> 01:03:14,169 and if Andy had put in every guitar solo, uh... 1027 01:03:14,294 --> 01:03:15,963 it wouldn't have been the same thing. 1028 01:03:16,088 --> 01:03:20,968 We kind of needed each other to restrain and incite each other. 1029 01:03:21,093 --> 01:03:22,803 ♪ I'll be watching you 1030 01:03:22,928 --> 01:03:24,972 ♪ Every move you make 1031 01:03:25,097 --> 01:03:26,807 ♪ Every vow you break 1032 01:03:26,932 --> 01:03:29,101 ♪ Every smile you fake 1033 01:03:29,226 --> 01:03:31,061 ♪ I'll be watching you 1034 01:03:31,186 --> 01:03:32,938 ♪ Every single day 1035 01:03:33,063 --> 01:03:35,440 ♪ Every word you say... ♪ 1036 01:03:35,566 --> 01:03:38,485 STING: Synchronicity was our biggest success. 1037 01:03:38,610 --> 01:03:40,487 It had songs like Every Breath You Take, 1038 01:03:40,612 --> 01:03:44,616 and King of Pain and Wrapped Around Your Finger. 1039 01:03:44,741 --> 01:03:49,830 But I did decide during that recording that I didn't want to do this again. 1040 01:03:49,955 --> 01:03:54,084 That we had achieved everything we set out to do as a band, 1041 01:03:54,209 --> 01:03:58,797 and achieved it tenfold, a hundredfold more than our expectations, 1042 01:03:58,922 --> 01:04:03,260 and so, after that, I figured it would just be diminishing returns. 1043 01:04:03,385 --> 01:04:08,348 So I wanted to use the momentum we'd gained to set out on my own. 1044 01:04:08,473 --> 01:04:13,437 After we finished the Police album, Sting stays there for a bit of a holiday 1045 01:04:13,562 --> 01:04:18,400 and the next band in is Dire Straits, and the rest is history. 1046 01:04:18,901 --> 01:04:25,032 ♪ I want my MTV ♪ 1047 01:04:26,742 --> 01:04:28,827 I want my MTV! 1048 01:04:28,952 --> 01:04:34,333 KNOPFLER: I've seen on MTV The Police doing an ad for it. 1049 01:04:34,458 --> 01:04:39,630 And I thought, "If I stick that to Don't Stand So Close to Me, 1050 01:04:40,839 --> 01:04:43,050 those notes, that would fit." 1051 01:04:43,967 --> 01:04:48,514 Anyway, we were recording Money for Nothing, 1052 01:04:48,639 --> 01:04:51,934 and I said to somebody, "I wish Sting was here." 1053 01:04:52,059 --> 01:04:55,103 And somebody said, "Well, he is here, he's on holiday." 1054 01:04:55,229 --> 01:04:57,397 (MONEY FOR NOTHING PLAYING) 1055 01:05:07,866 --> 01:05:08,909 Ow! 1056 01:05:22,339 --> 01:05:23,507 ♪ Listen here, now 1057 01:05:23,632 --> 01:05:25,384 ♪ That ain't workin' 1058 01:05:25,509 --> 01:05:26,844 ♪ That's the way you do it 1059 01:05:27,678 --> 01:05:29,805 ♪ You play the guitar on your MTV... ♪ 1060 01:05:30,806 --> 01:05:33,016 Trudie said to me, "That's gonna be such a huge hit." 1061 01:05:33,141 --> 01:05:36,645 I said, "I dunno, it's OK." 1062 01:05:36,770 --> 01:05:40,566 Of course, it was the biggest hit of that year, so I was very... 1063 01:05:40,691 --> 01:05:43,110 very proud to have been on that, but it's purely a function 1064 01:05:43,235 --> 01:05:45,988 of just being in the right place at the right time. 1065 01:05:46,113 --> 01:05:48,031 ♪ We are the sultans 1066 01:05:49,408 --> 01:05:52,661 ♪ Yeah, we are the sultans of swing 1067 01:05:52,786 --> 01:05:54,538 ♪ That's right... ♪ 1068 01:05:57,416 --> 01:06:00,544 KNOPFLER: There'd been something going on with the other albums. 1069 01:06:00,669 --> 01:06:05,716 There'd been a sort of a build-up, because we were playing live 1070 01:06:05,841 --> 01:06:09,178 and there was a big demand to see the band live. 1071 01:06:09,303 --> 01:06:13,348 Because the feeling was that not only could we do it all live, 1072 01:06:13,473 --> 01:06:16,351 but it was better than playing the records. 1073 01:06:16,476 --> 01:06:19,271 That was reaching a sort of critical mass. 1074 01:06:19,396 --> 01:06:21,523 (GUITAR SOLO) 1075 01:06:26,236 --> 01:06:28,405 NEIL DORSFMAN: Mark wanted to try something different 1076 01:06:28,530 --> 01:06:30,824 in the approach to recording Brothers in Arms. 1077 01:06:30,949 --> 01:06:34,119 After we did Love Over Gold, we were both displeased 1078 01:06:34,244 --> 01:06:37,289 with how analogue tape would change the sound of our recordings 1079 01:06:37,414 --> 01:06:38,540 while we were doing it. 1080 01:06:38,624 --> 01:06:41,168 Dire Straits' manager was conscious of that 1081 01:06:41,293 --> 01:06:45,005 and encouraged Mark to record the album digitally and mix it digitally. 1082 01:06:45,130 --> 01:06:49,718 So, it was an all-digital recording ultimately winding up on CD. 1083 01:06:49,843 --> 01:06:52,179 And it was one of the first records to be done that way, 1084 01:06:52,304 --> 01:06:56,183 and I think he wanted the time and the peace and quiet of Montserrat 1085 01:06:56,308 --> 01:06:57,684 to do it there. 1086 01:06:57,809 --> 01:06:59,770 (SO FAR AWAY PLAYING) 1087 01:07:15,953 --> 01:07:19,957 KNOPFLER: If you come into a studio from Oxford Circus, 1088 01:07:20,082 --> 01:07:21,708 you'll be slightly hyper. 1089 01:07:21,834 --> 01:07:24,211 You've come out of the Tube, or wherever you've come from, 1090 01:07:24,336 --> 01:07:28,006 and you're in a different mental place. 1091 01:07:28,131 --> 01:07:32,803 When you come from the track up to the studio in Montserrat, 1092 01:07:32,928 --> 01:07:34,680 you go in the kitchen, you see George 1093 01:07:34,805 --> 01:07:36,890 and you get a cup of coffee and you're wandering around. 1094 01:07:37,015 --> 01:07:40,060 And it's just more of a home studio vibe. 1095 01:07:40,185 --> 01:07:44,231 But there's no getting away from the fact that that kind of life, 1096 01:07:44,356 --> 01:07:48,277 a rum-punch evening and a later start kind of a thing, 1097 01:07:48,402 --> 01:07:53,156 it will start to worm its way into your work methods. 1098 01:07:53,282 --> 01:07:55,784 GUY FLETCHER: It would be a lie to say we came away from there 1099 01:07:55,909 --> 01:07:59,621 without being touched deeply by the place. 1100 01:07:59,746 --> 01:08:03,667 The sound of the island does come across on the record. 1101 01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:07,546 ♪ You're so far away from me 1102 01:08:09,047 --> 01:08:12,092 ♪ You're so far, I just can't see 1103 01:08:12,968 --> 01:08:15,679 ♪ You're so far away from me 1104 01:08:17,305 --> 01:08:20,725 ♪ You're so far away from me ♪ 1105 01:08:20,850 --> 01:08:23,312 DORSFMAN: I mean, it was almost too chill in a way. 1106 01:08:23,437 --> 01:08:27,774 I remember, we were doing some track a couple of weeks into the record, 1107 01:08:27,899 --> 01:08:31,278 and I was looking out and everybody was in a towel 1108 01:08:31,403 --> 01:08:34,615 with sun cream on the nose, sunglasses. 1109 01:08:34,740 --> 01:08:37,451 They were playing, like, 40 beats per minute. 1110 01:08:37,576 --> 01:08:41,205 I was like, "We're making a record here! What is this?" 1111 01:08:41,330 --> 01:08:43,372 It was too mellow. 1112 01:08:43,497 --> 01:08:47,586 At any time in the studio, it's very easy to lose perspective, 1113 01:08:47,711 --> 01:08:50,714 especially when you're locked up and it becomes your whole world. 1114 01:08:50,839 --> 01:08:53,133 In fact, George Martin, down in Montserrat said to me, 1115 01:08:53,258 --> 01:08:56,970 "You know, Neil, a producer can either drive the bus 1116 01:08:57,095 --> 01:09:01,934 or he can sit next to the driver with the roadmap, you know?" 1117 01:09:02,059 --> 01:09:06,729 And it was up to me to sort of keep that energy higher, 1118 01:09:06,854 --> 01:09:08,732 because the record, I think, was suffering. 1119 01:09:08,857 --> 01:09:12,819 KNOPFLER: Neil would be one of the most important people in my history. 1120 01:09:12,944 --> 01:09:16,948 You know, it's due to him that we got back on track. 1121 01:09:17,073 --> 01:09:21,203 We were there a long time before trying to get it going, but... 1122 01:09:22,037 --> 01:09:27,376 Once we hit a groove we recorded the album very quickly, really fast. 1123 01:09:27,501 --> 01:09:31,337 All the Brothers in Arms album was done in a few days. 1124 01:09:31,462 --> 01:09:33,465 (WALK OF LIFE PLAYING) 1125 01:09:43,308 --> 01:09:47,104 FLETCHER: In a lot of our spare time, we used to go down to the beach, 1126 01:09:47,229 --> 01:09:49,857 and we soon noticed there were a couple of windsurf boards, 1127 01:09:49,982 --> 01:09:52,776 and that Danny was offering to teach windsurfing. 1128 01:09:52,901 --> 01:09:56,363 I becomes friends with the Dire Straits band. 1129 01:09:57,155 --> 01:09:59,867 That's after I had taught Alan Clark and Guy Fletcher to windsurf. 1130 01:09:59,992 --> 01:10:04,121 So one day after I and Alan Clark went windsurfing and come out, Alan said, 1131 01:10:04,246 --> 01:10:06,582 "I'm taking you up to the AIR Studios for lunch." 1132 01:10:06,707 --> 01:10:09,209 I said, "OK," and I went up 1133 01:10:09,334 --> 01:10:12,838 and they're there, and they're mixing the music they did. 1134 01:10:13,714 --> 01:10:17,426 I started dancing to the music, and then he said to me, 1135 01:10:18,677 --> 01:10:22,639 "You know I wrote a song on you dancing?" I said, 1136 01:10:22,764 --> 01:10:28,937 "Mark, that's going to be a damn big recording hit for you. 1137 01:10:29,062 --> 01:10:30,898 I'm predicting to you, 1138 01:10:31,023 --> 01:10:34,860 that is going to be your biggest album that you ever make." 1139 01:10:34,985 --> 01:10:37,821 Now, it's one of the biggest album in the world. 1140 01:10:37,946 --> 01:10:39,740 Everybody loves the song Walk of Life. 1141 01:10:40,449 --> 01:10:42,284 ♪ He do the song about the sweet-lovin' woman 1142 01:10:42,409 --> 01:10:44,369 ♪ He do the song about the knife 1143 01:10:45,579 --> 01:10:47,289 ♪ He do the walk 1144 01:10:47,414 --> 01:10:49,374 ♪ Do the walk of life 1145 01:10:49,917 --> 01:10:51,793 ♪ Yeah, he do the walk of life... ♪ 1146 01:10:51,919 --> 01:10:54,546 DORSFMAN: Brothers in Arms was one of the first all-digital recordings, 1147 01:10:54,671 --> 01:10:59,468 and that in tandem with MTV blowing up at the same time, 1148 01:10:59,593 --> 01:11:01,386 I think that's a huge reason 1149 01:11:01,512 --> 01:11:03,972 why everything changed for the band at that point. 1150 01:11:04,097 --> 01:11:06,141 OK, best British LP. 1151 01:11:06,266 --> 01:11:08,227 Brothers in Arms, Dire Straits. 1152 01:11:08,352 --> 01:11:09,853 (CHEERING) 1153 01:11:11,897 --> 01:11:14,858 KNOPFLER: I didn't have a clue about how successful the album was. 1154 01:11:14,983 --> 01:11:18,111 I don't think we did. Never thought about it. 1155 01:11:18,237 --> 01:11:23,575 When Philips invented the CD and then brought it out, 1156 01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:26,870 that just coincided with the release of Brothers. 1157 01:11:26,995 --> 01:11:32,000 So they took that and used it as, "This is what CD sounds like." 1158 01:11:32,125 --> 01:11:35,504 And then, they used all their sales outlets to play the record. 1159 01:11:35,629 --> 01:11:40,425 So that was an additional thing that just happened by a fluke, really. 1160 01:11:40,551 --> 01:11:43,387 DORSFMAN: In the '80s, somebody smart figured out 1161 01:11:43,512 --> 01:11:46,098 that you can make a boatload of money in the record business. 1162 01:11:46,223 --> 01:11:48,767 And with the cheapness of CDs, 1163 01:11:48,892 --> 01:11:54,606 to make a CD, to fully manufacture, everything was less than a dollar. 1164 01:11:54,731 --> 01:11:57,401 So, there was a calculation there, 1165 01:11:57,526 --> 01:12:01,697 and like everything in the modern world, it quickly became monetized. 1166 01:12:02,155 --> 01:12:07,077 MAN: There was a lot of excitement associated with the coming of the CD. 1167 01:12:07,536 --> 01:12:08,871 The consumer loved it. 1168 01:12:08,996 --> 01:12:12,749 As a result, the record industry exploded at that point. 1169 01:12:12,875 --> 01:12:15,377 (BUSTIN' AT THE SEAMS PLAYING) 1170 01:12:21,133 --> 01:12:23,218 GLOVER: It was a real shot in the arm, coming to Montserrat. 1171 01:12:23,343 --> 01:12:26,346 It was a real special event for us. 1172 01:12:26,471 --> 01:12:30,976 It still is, it's in our memories, it's still our favorite album. 1173 01:12:40,527 --> 01:12:43,614 ROBINSON: For us, the Rolling Stones coming to the studio was a big thing. 1174 01:12:43,739 --> 01:12:47,993 Because obviously, George is more associated with the Beatles, 1175 01:12:48,118 --> 01:12:52,122 and we'd had Keith Richards in doing the X-Pensive Winos and it was fabulous. 1176 01:12:52,247 --> 01:12:55,459 OLIVER: I was talking to Keith Richards before, 1177 01:12:55,584 --> 01:12:57,669 when he came to do his solo. 1178 01:12:57,794 --> 01:12:59,671 He did a solo record. 1179 01:12:59,796 --> 01:13:00,923 I was talking to him 1180 01:13:01,048 --> 01:13:04,843 and I told him, "The Rolling Stones is one of my favorite bands." 1181 01:13:04,968 --> 01:13:07,679 I asked him if they were coming back together. 1182 01:13:07,804 --> 01:13:12,392 And he said to me, "I am the only man who could put the band back together, 1183 01:13:12,518 --> 01:13:15,229 and I'm going to put it back together and we'll come here and record." 1184 01:13:15,354 --> 01:13:17,731 -And they did come to Montserrat. -Yeah, man. 1185 01:13:17,856 --> 01:13:21,401 Keith has always insisted that Mick is the lead singer, 1186 01:13:21,527 --> 01:13:24,488 as he is in the Rolling Stones, and he shouldn't do anything else. 1187 01:13:24,613 --> 01:13:26,031 They just weren't getting on. 1188 01:13:26,156 --> 01:13:27,616 (CHEERING) 1189 01:13:27,741 --> 01:13:29,826 REPORTER: We might as well start by posing the question 1190 01:13:29,952 --> 01:13:31,954 of whether the release of a Mick Jagger solo album 1191 01:13:32,079 --> 01:13:33,747 means the end of the Rolling Stones? 1192 01:13:33,872 --> 01:13:39,503 I'd done stuff with other people and the odd thing here and there. 1193 01:13:39,628 --> 01:13:43,215 I'd obviously played with other bands and jammed around, 1194 01:13:43,340 --> 01:13:45,259 but I thought it was a good moment 1195 01:13:45,384 --> 01:13:48,136 to break the pattern of just doing a Stones album 1196 01:13:48,262 --> 01:13:52,349 and just do something of my own for a change and step out a bit. 1197 01:13:52,474 --> 01:13:57,020 If Mick's albums had have been blockbusters, so to speak, 1198 01:13:57,145 --> 01:13:59,731 whatever that means, uh... 1199 01:14:01,483 --> 01:14:05,654 it would be very unlikely that I would be leaving tomorrow, 1200 01:14:05,779 --> 01:14:08,073 to start making a new Stones album. 1201 01:14:08,198 --> 01:14:10,826 (BLINDED BY THE SUN PLAYING) 1202 01:14:15,789 --> 01:14:17,082 KIMSEY: Going down to Montserrat, 1203 01:14:17,207 --> 01:14:19,209 I was quite fearful of going down with the Stones, 1204 01:14:19,334 --> 01:14:24,256 because working on four or five albums with them previously, 1205 01:14:24,381 --> 01:14:27,843 I knew that they were very much city bound. 1206 01:14:27,968 --> 01:14:29,970 (STEEL DRUM MUSIC) 1207 01:14:32,389 --> 01:14:37,811 I think they were quite amazed how normal everybody was, really. 1208 01:14:37,936 --> 01:14:41,607 It's like when a band like the Stones suddenly appears on the island, 1209 01:14:41,732 --> 01:14:47,404 the expectation can be something so big, it can freak you out. 1210 01:14:47,905 --> 01:14:51,533 MORGAN: Keith Richards, all the guys, 1211 01:14:51,658 --> 01:14:56,663 they drink a lot, they smoke a lot, they eat a lot. 1212 01:14:56,788 --> 01:15:00,000 As I say, they were a whole set of good guys. 1213 01:15:00,125 --> 01:15:02,503 (DRUM ROLL) 1214 01:15:02,628 --> 01:15:04,713 (LAUGHTER) 1215 01:15:04,838 --> 01:15:06,131 (GUITAR PLAYING) 1216 01:15:06,256 --> 01:15:09,218 Don't go mad on the drums though, OK? 1217 01:15:09,343 --> 01:15:11,512 KIMSEY: Looking at the body language 1218 01:15:11,637 --> 01:15:14,389 between, especially Mick and Keith in Montserrat, 1219 01:15:14,515 --> 01:15:16,391 it was very different to what I'd seen, 1220 01:15:16,517 --> 01:15:21,897 and this was one of the most friendly and warming atmospheres 1221 01:15:22,022 --> 01:15:23,690 I've seen between Mick and Keith. 1222 01:15:28,237 --> 01:15:30,322 ♪ Our heartbeats ♪ 1223 01:15:31,657 --> 01:15:34,326 RICHARDS: We both agreed the best thing for the both of us 1224 01:15:34,451 --> 01:15:35,994 is to get together. Like, nobody else. 1225 01:15:36,119 --> 01:15:39,498 And it's very strange that it's easy between the two of us. 1226 01:15:39,623 --> 01:15:42,751 It's when other people are around that it can be a problem. 1227 01:15:42,876 --> 01:15:45,629 I think after the second day, we had three or four songs already. 1228 01:15:45,754 --> 01:15:48,632 When you start off on a roll like that, it helps, you know? 1229 01:15:49,591 --> 01:15:53,679 KIMSEY: Peter Mensch and Cliff Burnstein came down, 1230 01:15:53,804 --> 01:15:56,515 and we were listening back to Mixed Emotions. 1231 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,392 Peter Mensch was talking to Keith 1232 01:15:58,517 --> 01:16:01,812 suggesting that an arrangement change should be made. 1233 01:16:01,937 --> 01:16:06,608 At which point, Keith delved into his doctor's bag, 1234 01:16:06,733 --> 01:16:09,945 one of these beautiful old leather doctor's bags, 1235 01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:14,616 and bought out a knife and pinned it between his legs, 1236 01:16:14,741 --> 01:16:17,953 and said to Peter something in the terms of, 1237 01:16:18,078 --> 01:16:22,374 "Listen, sonny, nobody tells the Rolling Stones how to write a song." 1238 01:16:22,499 --> 01:16:26,670 Which I thought was classic, wonderful. And the arrangement never changed. 1239 01:16:26,795 --> 01:16:29,965 If I get up there, we need another chord in there. 1240 01:16:30,090 --> 01:16:34,761 -I think we have to take another minor. -Yeah, one more minor, F, F and G. 1241 01:16:34,887 --> 01:16:38,182 ♪ With mixed emotions 1242 01:16:38,891 --> 01:16:42,811 ♪ And you're not the only one ♪ 1243 01:16:48,066 --> 01:16:49,151 I like it. 1244 01:16:49,276 --> 01:16:55,407 KIMSEY: Montserrat was a huge part of rebooting the Stones, 1245 01:16:55,532 --> 01:16:59,036 helping them get back together, particularly Mick and Keith. 1246 01:16:59,161 --> 01:17:01,663 It was pretty sad when we all left 1247 01:17:01,788 --> 01:17:05,876 because they hadn't been that close for such a long time. 1248 01:17:06,001 --> 01:17:08,504 There was a sense of, um, you know, 1249 01:17:08,629 --> 01:17:11,507 when you finish school for the first time and you all break up. 1250 01:17:11,632 --> 01:17:14,176 It was a bit like that, breaking up for the summer holidays. 1251 01:17:14,301 --> 01:17:16,470 They weren't going to see each other for a long time. 1252 01:17:16,595 --> 01:17:18,263 RICHARDS: One, two, three. 1253 01:17:18,388 --> 01:17:21,225 (MIXED EMOTIONS PLAYING) 1254 01:17:24,811 --> 01:17:27,064 ♪ Button your lip, baby 1255 01:17:28,065 --> 01:17:29,733 ♪ Button your coat 1256 01:17:31,318 --> 01:17:33,779 ♪ Let's go out dancing 1257 01:17:35,072 --> 01:17:36,448 ♪ Let's rock and roll 1258 01:17:38,534 --> 01:17:41,245 ♪ You're not the only one 1259 01:17:41,995 --> 01:17:44,289 ♪ With mixed emotions... ♪ 1260 01:17:45,374 --> 01:17:46,625 (CHEERING) 1261 01:17:46,750 --> 01:17:48,210 JAGGER: Good morning, everybody. 1262 01:17:48,335 --> 01:17:51,755 We're very pleased to announce that we are doing a big tour this year. 1263 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,050 And we've got a new album which comes out and that's called Steel Wheels. 1264 01:17:55,175 --> 01:17:57,469 The first single's called Mixed Emotions. 1265 01:17:57,594 --> 01:17:59,221 I know you're dying to ask questions, 1266 01:17:59,346 --> 01:18:01,890 like, "Will this be the last tour you ever do?" 1267 01:18:02,474 --> 01:18:06,186 KIMSEY: Well, the Stones were the last band to record in Montserrat. 1268 01:18:06,311 --> 01:18:10,065 There's been a few studios that they've been the last people to record in, 1269 01:18:10,190 --> 01:18:13,527 but they're not the reason that they've closed down. 1270 01:18:13,652 --> 01:18:16,071 It's always an act of God. 1271 01:18:16,196 --> 01:18:19,241 The thing about the Stones is that they do this thing 1272 01:18:19,366 --> 01:18:21,910 where, in the old days, they used to trash things. 1273 01:18:22,035 --> 01:18:26,957 They said, "This is what we usually do. On the last day, we trash the place." 1274 01:18:27,082 --> 01:18:28,917 In a way, Hurricane Hugo did it for them 1275 01:18:29,042 --> 01:18:32,880 because as soon as they'd gone, the hurricane hit. 1276 01:18:33,797 --> 01:18:37,467 GEORGE MARTIN: Hurricane Hugo wiped us out, it wiped the island out almost. 1277 01:18:38,343 --> 01:18:40,762 There are only 12,000 people living on the island, 1278 01:18:40,888 --> 01:18:44,975 and 11,000 of them lost their homes. It was pretty devastating. 1279 01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:47,019 But they picked themselves up 1280 01:18:47,144 --> 01:18:49,313 and it took a year, or a bit more than a year 1281 01:18:49,438 --> 01:18:51,356 to get back anything like normal. 1282 01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:58,322 I wasn't able to get to Montserrat after the hurricane 1283 01:18:58,447 --> 01:19:00,282 until after about six weeks. 1284 01:19:00,908 --> 01:19:03,493 So I got a flash lamp and I went into the studio 1285 01:19:03,619 --> 01:19:05,787 to see how that had fared. 1286 01:19:05,913 --> 01:19:09,750 Went over to the piano and opened the keyboard, 1287 01:19:09,875 --> 01:19:15,172 and all the ivory keys were covered in green mold. 1288 01:19:15,297 --> 01:19:18,759 And I realized then we were done. 1289 01:19:24,765 --> 01:19:29,394 ATKIN: By the time the hurricane hit, it was becoming a burden to them. 1290 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,232 The kind of budgets that people had were long gone. 1291 01:19:33,357 --> 01:19:37,069 The accountants were really starting to dig into the music business, 1292 01:19:37,194 --> 01:19:41,198 and it wasn't the era that we built it for. 1293 01:19:45,452 --> 01:19:47,871 GILES MARTIN: I think technology changed, things moved to digital. 1294 01:19:47,996 --> 01:19:50,249 And so, just the equipment levels... 1295 01:19:50,374 --> 01:19:52,543 Recording studios started changing a lot. 1296 01:19:52,668 --> 01:19:54,336 They became more accessible, 1297 01:19:54,461 --> 01:19:56,755 album budgets started getting cut. All of these things. 1298 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,469 KNOPFLER: Recording studios, they all have a shelf-life, 1299 01:20:02,594 --> 01:20:09,351 because in the end, they are ruled by forces that are bigger than us. 1300 01:20:09,476 --> 01:20:11,436 BECKLEY: I think the demise of the album 1301 01:20:11,562 --> 01:20:15,190 is directly related to the shift from analog to digital. 1302 01:20:15,315 --> 01:20:19,278 A lot of the restrictions we dealt with in recording analog 1303 01:20:19,403 --> 01:20:24,616 were lovely parameters to keep the reins kinda tight. 1304 01:20:24,741 --> 01:20:27,244 And with digital came unlimited options, 1305 01:20:27,369 --> 01:20:30,789 and I think things took a pretty serious shift at that change. 1306 01:20:32,541 --> 01:20:35,210 ROBINSON: It's as if there is something there 1307 01:20:35,335 --> 01:20:38,213 that drew all that music, drew all that creativity, 1308 01:20:38,338 --> 01:20:40,465 and then it was like, "The power's gone now." 1309 01:20:40,591 --> 01:20:42,509 So, that's finished and move on. 1310 01:20:50,934 --> 01:20:52,936 WILLOCK: We heard that our volcano was dormant, 1311 01:20:53,061 --> 01:20:56,607 but we never understood until our volcano started erupting 1312 01:20:56,732 --> 01:20:59,443 that dormant actually meant potentially active. 1313 01:21:00,444 --> 01:21:02,237 And so, I was in the studio. 1314 01:21:02,362 --> 01:21:07,159 One of the technicians came and said, "Rose, the volcano is erupting." 1315 01:21:07,284 --> 01:21:09,036 (RUMBLING) 1316 01:21:33,685 --> 01:21:38,565 I sat before the microphone, I said, "Everybody, I know that you are scared. 1317 01:21:38,690 --> 01:21:42,486 If you feel like praying, pray. If you feel like crying, cry. 1318 01:21:42,611 --> 01:21:45,864 But I'll be here, I'll be here with you all the way. 1319 01:21:45,989 --> 01:21:49,785 All the time, I'll be here, just keep listening to the radio station. 1320 01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:53,705 This is Rose. It's gonna be OK. Just stay with me." 1321 01:21:58,293 --> 01:22:00,045 CASSELL: The sky was just, like, frightening. 1322 01:22:00,170 --> 01:22:03,340 Especially, I can remember the first ash plume 1323 01:22:03,465 --> 01:22:05,133 that went up about 60,000 feet. 1324 01:22:05,259 --> 01:22:07,761 The whole island, you have bright sunshine like this, 1325 01:22:07,886 --> 01:22:10,722 and suddenly it's like night, you can't see a thing. 1326 01:22:11,974 --> 01:22:13,475 WOMAN: No one's here. 1327 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:18,105 RILEY: For me, it was a very, very bad experience, it was very scary. 1328 01:22:18,230 --> 01:22:21,024 Because one night, they tell you to go back home. 1329 01:22:21,149 --> 01:22:23,777 Before the night is out, you gotta move in the middle of the night again, 1330 01:22:23,902 --> 01:22:28,282 and the next day you don't know what to do, where you're gonna sleep. 1331 01:22:28,407 --> 01:22:32,035 Because all your mind, "Should I go home? 1332 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:33,495 Should I stay in the shelter?" 1333 01:22:33,620 --> 01:22:35,330 You don't know what to do. You're confused. 1334 01:22:35,455 --> 01:22:37,291 (EXPLOSION) 1335 01:22:56,018 --> 01:22:59,813 CASSELL: And you know, we didn't understand the magnitude of an eruption, 1336 01:22:59,938 --> 01:23:01,231 what it can do to an island. 1337 01:23:01,356 --> 01:23:05,694 It entirely changed the entire landscape in Montserrat and the whole country. 1338 01:23:05,819 --> 01:23:08,822 And I was amazed what could happen. 1339 01:23:12,743 --> 01:23:17,080 SILCOTT: Many, almost all Montserratians were displaced. 1340 01:23:17,831 --> 01:23:20,626 Whether they were on that side or this side, 1341 01:23:20,751 --> 01:23:23,253 it was a rough time for everyone here. 1342 01:23:23,378 --> 01:23:26,757 And you just had to go somewhere else and start over. 1343 01:23:27,341 --> 01:23:28,759 I hate the volcano. 1344 01:23:28,884 --> 01:23:32,721 I hated the fact that it did so much to Montserrat. 1345 01:23:40,103 --> 01:23:42,439 STING: I remember sailing past Montserrat 1346 01:23:42,564 --> 01:23:45,484 a few years after the volcano erupted, 1347 01:23:45,609 --> 01:23:48,111 and sailing past Plymouth 1348 01:23:48,237 --> 01:23:52,032 and just seeing what looked like a nuclear winter. 1349 01:23:52,157 --> 01:23:54,284 It was covered in white dust. 1350 01:23:54,409 --> 01:23:59,206 This thriving, bustling Caribbean town was a ghost town. 1351 01:23:59,331 --> 01:24:02,668 And it was frightening and upsetting, 1352 01:24:02,793 --> 01:24:05,254 because I had so many happy memories of that place 1353 01:24:05,379 --> 01:24:09,007 with my bandmates, my children, my family. 1354 01:24:09,132 --> 01:24:15,055 It makes me actually kind of tear up when I think about it because... 1355 01:24:15,973 --> 01:24:20,394 it's a special place that was taken away, 1356 01:24:20,519 --> 01:24:24,356 that will never be the same again. 1357 01:24:24,481 --> 01:24:29,736 You can never go back and get that same energy again. 1358 01:24:29,862 --> 01:24:32,656 And for the people that lived there, 1359 01:24:32,781 --> 01:24:38,245 for them to lose everything in just one fleeting instant, 1360 01:24:38,370 --> 01:24:39,872 it devastates me. 1361 01:25:07,149 --> 01:25:09,776 WILLOCK: Most of us cried, because we lost our town. 1362 01:25:10,903 --> 01:25:14,406 We'd lost that important, integral part of our history. 1363 01:25:15,741 --> 01:25:18,452 And I can close my eyes and I'm still back there. 1364 01:25:24,249 --> 01:25:28,462 But since the volcanic activity, Montserrat has grown in size, 1365 01:25:28,587 --> 01:25:32,966 and for me, I consider it to be a pleasure to be around at this time 1366 01:25:33,091 --> 01:25:35,552 to see my island grow. 1367 01:25:35,677 --> 01:25:39,973 Because look at all the ash and the new fertilizer it has brought. 1368 01:25:40,098 --> 01:25:44,603 And so, I consider the volcano to be a perpetual part of who we are. 1369 01:25:52,694 --> 01:25:55,489 JUDY MARTIN: You can't really walk around the estate now. 1370 01:25:56,740 --> 01:26:00,786 And so, I feel it was of a time. 1371 01:26:01,495 --> 01:26:05,541 And now it should slowly go back to the jungle where it came from. 1372 01:26:12,005 --> 01:26:14,967 DORSFMAN: The '80s are like a hundred years in the rear-view mirror. 1373 01:26:15,092 --> 01:26:20,222 It was a very special time, and quality of studio, and vibe-wise, 1374 01:26:20,347 --> 01:26:24,768 the '80s was like the Renaissance, the golden era of studio recording. 1375 01:26:29,106 --> 01:26:32,693 COPELAND: Those studios are kind of an era that has gone. 1376 01:26:32,818 --> 01:26:36,738 Some types of music are best recorded in a big room, 1377 01:26:36,864 --> 01:26:40,868 but you just get your drums in that big room for a day, 1378 01:26:40,993 --> 01:26:44,788 and then you go back home and fiddle with it on your own gear at home. 1379 01:26:44,913 --> 01:26:47,791 It's just not the way artists make records anymore. 1380 01:26:51,086 --> 01:26:54,298 URE: There's footage of that place, there are photographs of that place, 1381 01:26:54,423 --> 01:26:58,510 there are living memories of that place. That's history. 1382 01:26:58,635 --> 01:27:02,139 Whether it's around today, 1383 01:27:02,264 --> 01:27:05,267 it's something that we still carry with us, 1384 01:27:05,392 --> 01:27:07,853 the ones who were lucky enough to experience it. 1385 01:27:07,978 --> 01:27:11,106 It's still vibrant and alive to us. 1386 01:27:14,401 --> 01:27:16,528 BECKLEY: As technology has evolved to the point 1387 01:27:16,653 --> 01:27:20,532 where, unbelievable, and people make whole albums on their phone. 1388 01:27:20,657 --> 01:27:25,746 But I think the actual ingredients, when you conceive of something, 1389 01:27:25,871 --> 01:27:29,583 head, and your heart, your hands to play an instrument, 1390 01:27:29,708 --> 01:27:32,377 you use some kind of a recording device to put it down, 1391 01:27:32,503 --> 01:27:34,671 those elements haven't changed. 1392 01:27:45,557 --> 01:27:48,101 GEORGE MARTIN: It's like seeing something you've created 1393 01:27:48,227 --> 01:27:51,021 falling into disrepair. 1394 01:27:51,647 --> 01:27:53,857 But it's like everything in life, isn't it? 1395 01:27:53,982 --> 01:27:55,943 Everything has a period. 1396 01:27:56,068 --> 01:27:59,404 You know, you bring something out of nothing, 1397 01:27:59,530 --> 01:28:03,408 and it always goes back to nothing again, whatever. 1398 01:28:04,701 --> 01:28:06,912 GILES MARTIN: My father was a man who got enormous pleasure 1399 01:28:07,037 --> 01:28:10,207 from other people's happiness. He passed away years ago, 1400 01:28:10,332 --> 01:28:13,585 but he passed away as a very content man with what he'd done with his life. 1401 01:28:13,710 --> 01:28:16,004 And Montserrat was a huge part of that life, 1402 01:28:16,129 --> 01:28:19,758 and a huge part of a dream that he fulfilled in doing something amazing. 1403 01:28:20,175 --> 01:28:25,722 I think that it had its natural end, and that it was closure for him. 1404 01:28:26,932 --> 01:28:30,143 (TUNES GUITAR) 1405 01:28:31,562 --> 01:28:33,438 Shall we tune the guitar for you, man? 1406 01:28:33,564 --> 01:28:36,817 COOPER: George knew the space between the notes 1407 01:28:36,942 --> 01:28:40,320 was as exciting as the note you played. 1408 01:28:40,445 --> 01:28:45,576 That rhythm that keeps us alive, the heartbeat, it's in all of us. 1409 01:28:45,701 --> 01:28:47,953 It's the heartbeat you hear in your mother's womb 1410 01:28:48,078 --> 01:28:49,538 that entices you out to dance. 1411 01:28:49,663 --> 01:28:53,333 And we need that. We need to touch base with what we do as human beings. 1412 01:28:53,458 --> 01:28:57,379 And what better an example than making music? 1413 01:28:57,504 --> 01:28:59,173 And it's about collaboration. 1414 01:28:59,298 --> 01:29:04,511 It's about the dream that George had of that wonderful space in Montserrat 1415 01:29:04,636 --> 01:29:07,848 where you had the sun, the sea, nature, 1416 01:29:08,849 --> 01:29:11,393 each other's company and music. 1417 01:29:11,518 --> 01:29:13,520 (WALK OF LIFE PLAYING) 1418 01:29:28,577 --> 01:29:29,703 ♪ Whoo-hoo 1419 01:29:31,330 --> 01:29:32,331 ♪ Whoo-hoo 1420 01:29:38,587 --> 01:29:41,673 ♪ Here comes Johnny singing oldies, goldies 1421 01:29:41,798 --> 01:29:44,218 ♪ "Be-Bop-A-Lula", baby, "What'd I Say" 1422 01:29:44,343 --> 01:29:46,929 ♪ Here comes Johnny singing "I Gotta Woman" 1423 01:29:47,054 --> 01:29:49,890 ♪ Down in the tunnel trying to make it pay 1424 01:29:50,015 --> 01:29:52,809 ♪ He got the action, he got the motion 1425 01:29:52,935 --> 01:29:55,854 ♪ Oh, yeah, the boy can play 1426 01:29:55,979 --> 01:29:58,190 ♪ Dedication, devotion 1427 01:29:58,315 --> 01:30:00,734 ♪ And turning all the night time into the day 1428 01:30:00,859 --> 01:30:03,278 ♪ He do the song about the sweet-lovin' woman 1429 01:30:03,403 --> 01:30:05,197 ♪ He do the song about the knife 1430 01:30:06,365 --> 01:30:10,619 ♪ He do the walk, do the walk of life 1431 01:30:10,744 --> 01:30:12,788 ♪ Yeah, he do the walk of life 1432 01:30:18,919 --> 01:30:20,254 ♪ Whoo-hoo 1433 01:30:23,423 --> 01:30:26,134 ♪ Here comes Johnny gonna tell you the story 1434 01:30:26,260 --> 01:30:28,929 ♪ Hand me down my walkin' shoes 1435 01:30:29,054 --> 01:30:31,682 ♪ Here comes Johnny with the power and the glory 1436 01:30:31,807 --> 01:30:34,685 ♪ Backbeat the talkin' blues 1437 01:30:34,810 --> 01:30:37,646 ♪ He got the action, he got the motion 1438 01:30:37,771 --> 01:30:40,148 ♪ Oh, yeah, the boy can play 1439 01:30:40,274 --> 01:30:42,734 ♪ Dedication, devotion 1440 01:30:42,860 --> 01:30:45,237 ♪ Turning all the night time into the day 1441 01:30:45,362 --> 01:30:47,781 ♪ The song about the sweet-lovin' woman 1442 01:30:47,906 --> 01:30:50,450 ♪ He do the song about the knife 1443 01:30:50,576 --> 01:30:54,580 ♪ And he do the walk, he do the walk of life 1444 01:30:55,330 --> 01:30:57,249 ♪ Yeah, he do the walk of life 1445 01:31:11,346 --> 01:31:12,556 ♪ Whoo-hoo-hoo 1446 01:31:19,021 --> 01:31:21,857 ♪ Here comes Johnny singing oldies, goldies 1447 01:31:21,982 --> 01:31:24,443 ♪ "Be-Bop-A-Lula", baby, "What'd I Say" 1448 01:31:24,568 --> 01:31:27,112 ♪ Here comes Johnny singing "I Gotta Woman" 1449 01:31:27,237 --> 01:31:30,073 ♪ Down in the tunnels trying to make it pay 1450 01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:32,868 ♪ He got the action, he got the motion 1451 01:31:32,993 --> 01:31:35,662 ♪ Oh, yeah, the boy can play 1452 01:31:35,787 --> 01:31:38,248 ♪ Dedication, devotion 1453 01:31:38,373 --> 01:31:40,792 ♪ And turning all the night time into the day 1454 01:31:40,918 --> 01:31:43,504 ♪ And after all the violence and double talk 1455 01:31:43,629 --> 01:31:46,131 ♪ There's just a song in all the trouble and the strife 1456 01:31:46,256 --> 01:31:50,636 ♪ You do the walk, yeah, you do the walk of life 1457 01:31:50,761 --> 01:31:52,721 ♪ Hmm, they do the walk of life 1458 01:31:56,183 --> 01:31:57,226 ♪ Whoo-hoo 1459 01:32:13,867 --> 01:32:15,077 ♪ Whoo-hoo-hoo 1460 01:32:25,128 --> 01:32:26,547 ♪ Whoo-hoo-hoo 1461 01:32:29,675 --> 01:32:30,676 ♪ Whoo-hoo 1462 01:32:36,306 --> 01:32:38,016 ♪ Whoo-hoo-hoo 125720

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