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Going to Montserrat
was like going into a dream.
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It's always different.
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Reality's always different
from what you think it will be.
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I love the idea of wilderness
on the edge of civilization.
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I think the volcano itself is a kind
of presiding spirit over the island,
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and it definitely gives you a sense
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that you're living
on the edge of something seismic.
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When the volcano went off,
that was a pinnacle point of change.
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A point where nothing was ever
gonna be quite the same again.
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In the way we recorded,
in the way that music was dealt with.
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Those magical moments
are gonna be no longer.
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It was a glorious dream
that George Martin had.
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And it's so sad, as always,
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to see a glorious dream come to an end
and be destroyed.
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It's Atlantis now, isn't it?
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(HOT HOT HOT PLAYING)
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♪ Ole, ole, ole, ole
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♪ Ole, ole, ole, ole
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♪ Feeling hot, hot, hot
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♪ Feeling hot, hot, hot ♪
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VYE ROBINSON: Montserrat's in the
Caribbean. It's very close to Antigua.
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But because it's so small,
it really is that hidden gem.
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They used to call it the Hidden Gem
and the Emerald Isle of the Caribbean.
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Montserrat was colonized by the Irish.
That's why the island is so different
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because it's just a really friendly
place, it's just got a magic about it.
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♪ Keep your spirit,
come on, let's do it!
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♪ Feeling hot, hot, hot ♪
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DESMOND RILEY:
We had one big superstar.
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Mighty Arrow. Everybody around the
world would know Arrow, Hot Hot Hot.
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That's our music.
We call it soca music.
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JUSTIN "HERO" CASSELL:
Soca is a hybrid of calypso music.
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Calypso music originated in Nigeria
and came to the West Indies.
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These islands, you know,
they were part of the slave trade.
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And then you had the calypso carnivals.
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♪ Keep people rockin' ♪
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MINETTA ALLEN FRANCIS:
Montserrat is just a lovely place.
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There is an atmosphere in Montserrat
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that just makes you want to live
in Montserrat.
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MIDGE URE: There was no doubt
there was a magic on Montserrat.
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This island was kind of untouched.
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There were no big corporate signs
for chain restaurants.
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And here was no American money in there,
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just these old shacks and tin roofs,
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and brightly colored
and painted beautifully.
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And you felt
as though you were in a time warp.
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This little island had a heart
that you could feel, you know?
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KNOPFLER: It didn't have the
sophistication you'd feel straight away
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if you went to Antigua
or anywhere else like that.
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It was far more innocent,
far more quiet.
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STING: There's definitely a mystique
about the island.
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It's quite a place, actually.
It's really dramatic.
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These, you know, very sheer cliffs.
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And, of course,
the fertility of the island
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is a function of this volcanic ash
that comes down periodically.
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It hadn't come down for a long time,
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but the island was blooming
and blossoming, everything grew.
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I often wonder why George Martin
chose a volcanic island
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to put his beautiful studio on.
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(BIG BEN CHIMES)
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Originally, Dad, he was a mad visionary
in lots of ways.
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I think always liked the idea
of pushing boundaries.
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Think about what he did
with the Beatles in the '60s.
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He pushed the boundaries
with the recording studios.
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He wanted to do something different.
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I bust a string straight away.
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(RUNS FINGERS UP KEYBOARD)
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There were some great moments singing,
Paul, but it wasn't the one.
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It's the second one
out of every three is the one.
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Do you want to hear any of it before you
do any more or go straight for another?
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JOHN LENNON: They either say
that George Martin did everything
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or the Beatles did everything.
It was neither one, you know?
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He had a very great musical knowledge
and background.
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So he could translate for us
and suggest a lot of things.
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We'd be saying we want it to go...
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ooo-ooo and eee-eee.
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He'd say, "Well, look, chaps,
I thought of this this afternoon.
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Last night, I was talking to..."
whoever he was talking to.
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"And I came up with this."
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And we'd say,
"Great. Great. We'll put it on here."
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It's hard to say who did what, you know?
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I mean, he taught us a lot.
I'm sure we taught him a lot.
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GERRY BECKLEY: A record producer
is not like a film producer.
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A record producer
is much more like a film director.
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One thing that was unique to George
that a lot of producers didn't have
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is that he was also the arranger.
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That's very often a completely
different person, different element.
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In George's case,
his work as an arranger
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would be, for example, the strings
in Eleanor Rigby or something.
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If you think of some
of the famous producers of our time,
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the wall of sound, Phil Spector,
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where he controlled
every note of every instrument
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and was just a tyrant and stuff,
George was not at all like that.
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But there was a serious element
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of just kind of good Pythonesque
British crazy in there.
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Just a lovely combination.
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(♪ "THREE AMERICAN SKETCHES:
II. OLD BOSTON" BY GEORGE MARTIN)
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He knew how to get from you
the best that you could give.
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Which was extraordinary,
in the most wonderful way.
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Elegant, gentlemanly,
loving, nurturing way.
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He would make any musician
a much better musician
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by spending five minutes with them.
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You can put a very soft flute
against a huge brass chord
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and still make it sound loud.
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And then cut up the tape,
threw it up in the air,
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until it settled down on the ground,
and joined them up again together.
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So it just became
like a patchwork quilt.
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This is the kind of thing
you can do on a recording,
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which you obviously
couldn't possibly do it live
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because it is making up music
as you go along.
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He's largely responsible,
along with the Beatles,
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for giving everybody
that came after them in music a career.
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What the Beatles did with their albums,
no one will ever top that.
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NEWSREEL: It is a moment in history
that may one day be known
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as the day
the British Empire was no more.
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The Beatles have decided
to call it a day.
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BECKLEY: Well, a lot of things
happened at that time.
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Obviously, the Beatles broke up,
and so, George was free from EMI.
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So I guess he became his own boss.
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But frankly, if you're known
as the Beatles' producer,
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anything you do after that,
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it's virtually impossible
to get anywhere near that.
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GILES MARTIN: I think my dad
was tired of the confines
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of a very rigid company structure,
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which was Abbey Road,
or EMI Studios as it was at the time.
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And he wanted to build a place
which was more artist friendly.
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Abbey Road
obviously created great music,
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but they always found...
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I mean, the fridge
was locked every night.
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They had to break in to get milk
for their cups of tea.
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Even the loo roll had Abbey Road on it,
so you wouldn't steal it.
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It was very much a...
It was like a proper English factory.
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MALCOLM ATKIN: There's no doubt
in my mind that George had a vision
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of how recording
could or should be done.
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Through the '70s was a period
of great excess in the music business.
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Um, it was an era when
there wasn't such a thing as a budget.
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There was a need to make some music.
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COOPER: The '70s
was one of the most exciting periods
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in musical recording time.
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And a few times,
I've been in EMI, Abbey Road,
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and normally I would bump into George,
but he wasn't there.
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And I wondered what was going on,
and they said,
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"He's making his own studio now.
AIR London it's gonna be called."
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♪ Will you meet me in the middle?
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♪ Will you meet me in the air?
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DAVE HARRIES: We had four studios.
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Oxford Circus,
right in the middle of town.
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And it was so successful,
you know, it was a hit factory.
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(♪ "SISTER GOLDEN HAIR" BY AMERICA)
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There's a momentum shift
which happens with successful studios.
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But I think my dad
wanted to do something different
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in the recording space.
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He wanted to record
in a different location.
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Then he built AIR
and he thought, "Where next?"
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George was looking for something,
you know,
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which wasn't in the middle of London.
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Somewhere where the people
could come and record,
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and his plan was
there'd be a lack of hangers-on.
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It would just be them
and their families.
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HARRIES: Then he had an idea
that he would put a studio on a boat.
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He had a boat in line,
which we went and looked at,
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a great big, big boat, and we were
going to put a studio in the middle
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so we could go to anywhere in the world
and record people.
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Then he realized that just the diesel
generators would make a noise
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in every single recording he made.
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So then he looked at islands,
looked at Island Paradise,
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looked at that idea about
building a studio and found Montserrat.
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HARRIES: And suddenly,
he comes up to me and says,
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"Dave, we're flying out to Montserrat.
I want to show you something.
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I've just bought a house
and I've bought an estate,
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and I want you to build a studio there."
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I'd read about Montserrat
in a Canadian magazine.
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They described it,
"The Emerald Isle of the Caribbean."
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So, I went there for a few days
and fell in love with the place,
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and with the people,
because they're such gentle people.
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And I loved it so much,
I bought a place, simple as that.
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KNOPFLER: Montserrat, for George,
was something more
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than just a commercial operation.
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He'd fallen in love with Montserrat.
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And he had something else in his mind,
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just to be able to tie in creativity
with being in a special place.
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COOPER: George's idea was
to take people out of an environment,
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to put them into harmony with nature,
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but also have time together
to talk, to have dialogue.
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And what he knew would happen
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was that for a lot of bands
who had never been in that situation,
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that would evoke new ways of thinking,
and therefore, new musical ideas.
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If you look at Montserrat on a map
or had visited it
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at that stage in 1976, '77,
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you'd never think,
"Let's build a recording studios here."
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In the same way you start
building the studios, you don't think,
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"Let's get Rupert Neve to build
a custom desk and put it in this space."
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HARRIES: The heart of any studio
is the mixing console.
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Geoff Emerick was quite involved
in what was gonna go on in Montserrat.
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So Geoff didn't want to use
a current type of Neve console.
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So Rupert redesigned the desk.
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He said, "It will wipe everything else
off the planet, this desk."
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AIR Studios, part of AIR's fame
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was that it had these three
incredible-sounding Neve consoles.
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And they had one at AIR Montserrat.
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Neve desks, to me, it sounded musical.
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You could actually tune into something,
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you could bring out
the character of something.
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(UPBEAT MUSIC)
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GILES MARTIN: Putting a recording desk
in a studios
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in a big city has its own problems.
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Putting a recording studio
on Montserrat,
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which really had no transport links
at all at that stage,
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was the ultimate challenge.
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And it was very brave of them, too,
because if something went really wrong,
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your closest port of call was Miami.
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You can imagine this huge two-ton box,
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with the most extraordinary piece
of equipment inside of it,
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with about 30 builders all round it,
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and they rolled it off the back
of the truck onto the oil drums.
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(UPBEAT MUSIC)
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PRESENTER: He's recognized
as the greatest record producer
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the industry has seen. George Martin.
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(APPLAUSE)
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What are you up to right now?
You have an interest in a studio abroad.
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Recently, I built a studio
out in the Caribbean.
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This reminds me of it, by the way.
(LAUGHS)
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So I spend quite a lot of time
out there.
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And that was Montserrat
in the West Indies.
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I hope I get a lot of people there.
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(VOLCANO PLAYING)
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BUFFET: We were, I believe,
the second band that recorded there,
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and, you know, I love island culture
and I love the island people,
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and I lived on my boat off and on
down there for 20 years.
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So I didn't have to go back to London
or New York or Nashville to record it.
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And I was able to take those songs
that were written there
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and go into that studio
that was built by George Martin.
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You couldn't get anybody who had
a better reputation at that time.
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It was a lovely working environment
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because you didn't leave,
I would say, the arena of creativity.
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You were constantly involved
in the creation of this music,
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as opposed to, like, being in Nashville,
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because to me, there are
two ways that you go into the studio.
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You can go in and look for perfection,
or you can try to capture the magic.
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I've always been
a "capture the magic" guy.
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♪ Now, I don't know
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♪ I don't know
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♪ I don't know where I'm a-gonna go
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♪ When the volcano blows
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♪ One more now
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♪ I don't know
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♪ He don't know
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♪ I don't know
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♪ He don't know
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♪ I don't know where I'm a-gonna go
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♪ When the volcano blows
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♪ Mr. Utley ♪
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But then, we had a few problems.
(LAUGHS)
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At the time, they were not funny
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because there was
a bit of a colonial aspect to things
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that did not fare well
with the American band.
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We were in having drinks,
meeting everybody.
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As we went to order the drinks,
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you had to do it one at a time
and have a slip down,
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you had to put it in
and pay for it at the time.
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And this did not go over well
with the Coral Reefer Band.
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So the studio manager at the time,
a guy named Denny Bridges, I remember,
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I said, "This is kinda odd for us, sir.
Can't we kind of speed this up?
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We can have fun here,
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but we're here for two hours
trying to pay for the drinks."
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He said,
"That's just the way we do it here."
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And I just said, "Why don't I just buy
the whole fucking bar?" (LAUGHS)
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♪ Ground, she's a-moving under me
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♪ Tidal waves out on the sea ♪
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The thing was when we first got there,
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we didn't know
what we were gonna call the record.
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And we saw the volcano.
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This was a dormant volcano
that was, like, a tourist attraction.
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You could walk from, like, here to you
and that was the vent of the volcano.
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It was... (WHOOSHING SOUND)
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It was kind of fun to go up there,
and I was intrigued by that volcano
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that was, you know, sitting there
that was so accessible.
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The volcano.
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I don't think anybody gave the volcano
more than a sort of sideways glance
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when we went down there.
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There was this thing called a soufrière,
which was a bubbling sulfur springs,
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but it was seen
as one of the local tourist attractions.
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It wasn't seen as anything dangerous.
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I was always like, "Are you sure
you wanna be on this island with this?"
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Because the volcano
was always sort of not going off,
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but it was always, like, a possibility.
It was never, like, completely quiet.
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You'd sit on the veranda
and just listen.
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And... I remember thinking a few times,
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"Well, what
if that volcano suddenly went off?"
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I'm from Chicago, we don't do volcanoes.
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(BOOGIE WONDERLAND PLAYING)
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♪ Dance
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♪ Boogie wonderland
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♪ Ha, ha!
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♪ Dance
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♪ Boogie wonderland ♪
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VERDINE WHITE:
When we went to Montserrat,
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we had been coming off
all those hit records,
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those big hits,
and we wanted to pull away from that
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and be grounded,
cos we were musicians first.
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So we wanted to go back to our roots
and just play some music.
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For us, the biggest thing was the whole
experience of just going there.
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And I had heard the ladies that were
working in the field with the machetes,
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when they were bringing our equipment
from the airport to the studio,
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you know, the big cases
with Earth, Wind & Fire on them,
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they had their machetes
and they dropped them and applauded.
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Cos they knew we were coming.
They just applauded the cases.
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We hadn't even gotten there yet.
And it was beautiful.
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♪ Why do you hang your head
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♪ And never, never satisfy
the loneliness you tread
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♪ Spending your life
in the falling rain... ♪
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If anything,
I think because of where it was,
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it touched our spirit
in a different kind of way.
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You didn't feel anything
other than just joy in the music.
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There was no rush either,
there was no clock.
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And by being away
from everything and everybody
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and from, "We need another hit record,
we need another hit record."
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And we just put that aside, and said,
"We're gonna do a double record."
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You know...
And we're just gonna play some music.
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And we actually mapped out
the whole record there.
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Top to bottom, just in conversation.
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It was the early '80s.
Record company budgets were reasonable,
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and afforded artists to go
and take over a studio for a while,
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a residential studio.
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So when you went to Montserrat,
it was yours.
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It was your environment.
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Your bar, your kitchen,
your whole place.
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So it was something
that was really quite special.
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There weren't many residential studios
of that quality.
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It was like it was all one big band.
It was like everybody was in the band.
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George the cook was in the band,
the housekeeper was in the band.
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It just all kind of overlapped,
it was not separate.
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It was like one big beautiful thing.
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FRANCIS:
Earth, Wind & Fire were very lovely.
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They came right here in this house.
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I invite them to come for dinner.
Some of them came.
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And when they came,
I had a daughter, a pretty daughter.
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One of them wanted the daughter,
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but he didn't get that chance. (LAUGHS)
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STEVE JACKSON:
The staff all had their own quirks.
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Blues, one of the drivers,
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whenever he wanted to say something,
he'd go, "Let me talk."
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Earth, Wind & Fire have a track
on that album called Let Me Talk.
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For a band to come in
and write a song about a driver,
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must've had an influence.
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I think in order to build a studio
that people love,
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it's all based around the staff.
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Montserrat was a bit like Fawlty Towers.
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It had these crazy characters
running around.
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Because it was a single studio space,
with no other bands there,
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the characters
that worked in the studios themselves
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became part of people's lives.
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Tappy Morgan, or George Morgan,
was the chef.
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He was great. He was very emotional.
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We all remember George, the chef,
I think.
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He was quite an imposing gentleman.
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GEORGE "TAPPY" MORGAN:
That was the best job
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I ever had in my entire life.
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Every band... gave me a big tip.
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And you know the reason why?
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Because I made them good food.
And everybody was happy.
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Phil Collins, Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger,
Keith Richards, Paul McCartney.
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All the guys liked the island.
They called it Strangers' Paradise.
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(HAPPINESS PLAYING)
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Do you want something else to drink?
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We would all be in the office,
and we had this telex machine.
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Remember we didn't have email
or any of this stuff in those days.
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We would be there, and suddenly
you would hear tap, tap, tap...
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And we would walk out there
and have a look.
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"Paul McCartney,
2nd February to 28th February."
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And that would be it.
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(HUMS MELODY)
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Something like that.
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♪ I've been wandering
without you by my side
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♪ Without you by my side ♪
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I know what it is.
You need to go to the G.
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(SINGS)
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MCCARTNEY: After the Beatles,
none of us wanted to work with George.
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It wasn't that we didn't want
to be produced by him.
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We all would have loved the discipline
and the expertise that George has,
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but it was that he'd been associated
with the Beatles.
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GEORGE MARTIN: We were very
apprehensive about it to begin with,
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both of us I think,
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because although we've been
very good friends over the years,
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not having actually had
to have the hassles of working,
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we were all
a little bit not sure about it.
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GILES MARTIN: At that stage, Paul
was working with my father near London
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on two albums,
Tug of War and Pipes of Peace,
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and my father persuaded Paul
to go to Montserrat.
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ATKIN: Because I was the chief engineer,
I got the call from George, like,
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"You built this place."
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If Paul McCartney's coming in
and it's a success,
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it's like getting
the housekeeping seal of approval.
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So, it better work.
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REPORTER: It's now 14 hours
since John Lennon was shot here,
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at the entrance to the Dakota Building
on West 72nd Street
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in the center of New York.
In those 14 hours,
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there has been a crowd here
standing in more or less silent vigils.
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The flowers have been piling up
at the gate.
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GEORGE MARTIN: I feel frightfully sorry
for Yoko and Sean,
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and all the people
who loved him so much.
401
00:26:04,189 --> 00:26:07,901
I also feel very angry, that it's
such a senseless thing to happen,
402
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that one of the great people
that have happened this century
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can be just wiped out by madness.
I'm very angry about it.
404
00:26:21,456 --> 00:26:22,791
ATKIN: Paul came down to the island,
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sadly only a few weeks
after Lennon died.
406
00:26:26,003 --> 00:26:28,881
And it was touch and go before Christmas
407
00:26:29,006 --> 00:26:31,550
as to whether this actually
was going to happen.
408
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They were very, very nervous.
409
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,015
An entire security firm
from New York City flew down
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ahead of the band arriving.
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And they would go everywhere,
just to protect the band.
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And they didn't even have a good time,
because they were just being a nuisance.
413
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You don't need that security
in Montserrat.
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ROSE WILLOCK: You need to understand,
that in Montserrat,
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if you're a cricketer or an athlete,
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00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,080
people will be asking
for your autograph.
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00:27:02,206 --> 00:27:06,043
If you're a musician, they hear you
on the radio all the time, no big deal.
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00:27:06,168 --> 00:27:08,337
So they sent
their security guards packing.
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00:27:08,462 --> 00:27:12,508
They would chill out in Kinsale,
in Salem, at the local bars.
420
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Just chill out
like how we are right now,
421
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and drink and get drunk and carry on
and all of that, no big deal.
422
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♪ Well, I used to fly when I was a kid
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♪ And I didn't cry if it hurt a bit
424
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♪ On a carpet ride to a foreign land
425
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♪ At the time of Davy Crockett
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♪ But it wasn't always
such a pretty sight
427
00:27:34,363 --> 00:27:37,783
♪ Cos we used to fight
like cats and dogs
428
00:27:37,908 --> 00:27:40,827
♪ Till we made it up in the ballroom
429
00:27:42,621 --> 00:27:48,085
♪ Ballroom dancing made a man of me
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♪ One, two, three, four ♪
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JACKSON: Paul turned up
with a whole entourage of stars.
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Through Carl Perkins
and Stanley Clarke on bass
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and Stevie Wonder, of course.
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00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:03,851
MCCARTNEY: I had this song
called Ebony and Ivory,
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which is about harmony between races.
436
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,272
Because it was Ebony and Ivory,
437
00:28:08,397 --> 00:28:11,275
I thought, "I'll be the ivory,
so I need an ebony."
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00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,654
So, I thought my best choice would be
Stevie Wonder, if I could get him.
439
00:28:15,779 --> 00:28:21,159
So, I telephoned Stevie and said,
"Do you like the idea of doing this?"
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00:28:21,285 --> 00:28:24,830
And he said, "Yeah."
So he came down to Montserrat.
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(EBONY AND IVORY PLAYING)
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♪ Ebony and ivory
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♪ Live together in perfect harmony
444
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♪ Side by side on my piano keyboard
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♪ Oh Lord, why don't we? ♪
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JACKSON: I think they liked
the whole experience.
447
00:28:51,023 --> 00:28:55,944
When the recording was going well
and everything was happening,
448
00:28:56,069 --> 00:28:59,281
they'd take some time off,
and they wanted to go and play.
449
00:28:59,406 --> 00:29:02,659
So they'd go down to the local bar
and they would jam.
450
00:29:02,993 --> 00:29:05,579
There was one night, Stevie said to me,
451
00:29:05,704 --> 00:29:08,665
"I wanna go and play somewhere.
Can you fix it up?" I said, "Sure."
452
00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:13,378
I phoned up the Agouti and I said,
"Is your piano plugged in on the stage?"
453
00:29:13,504 --> 00:29:16,173
And they said,
"Yeah, but we're just about to close."
454
00:29:16,298 --> 00:29:20,260
And I said, "No, don't do that.
Don't you close tonight."
455
00:29:20,385 --> 00:29:22,471
And Stevie went down there and played.
456
00:29:22,596 --> 00:29:25,265
He played there
till four in the morning.
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WONDER: ♪ I've enjoyed my stay here
in Montserrat
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(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
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♪ You know,
this is my first time coming out ♪
460
00:29:37,819 --> 00:29:39,530
So, at the end of the night...
461
00:29:39,655 --> 00:29:42,324
At that time, we were playing
for ten percent of the bar.
462
00:29:42,449 --> 00:29:45,494
Whatever the bar take was,
we would get ten percent.
463
00:29:45,619 --> 00:29:48,330
That night, we got a lot of money
464
00:29:48,455 --> 00:29:52,543
because Stevie Wonder left US$5,000
in the bar for the band.
465
00:29:52,668 --> 00:29:55,879
So among the five of us,
we got about US$1,000 each.
466
00:29:56,004 --> 00:29:57,965
That was our biggest payday. (LAUGHS)
467
00:29:58,090 --> 00:29:59,675
For us, in Montserrat,
468
00:30:00,634 --> 00:30:05,013
it was just amazing.
There's not a word to describe that.
469
00:30:05,138 --> 00:30:08,809
And in someplace else,
you couldn't pay for it.
470
00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:12,855
♪ And you know my friend,
Paul McCartney
471
00:30:15,065 --> 00:30:17,818
♪ One of the nicest people I've ever met
472
00:30:17,943 --> 00:30:19,778
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
473
00:30:25,033 --> 00:30:26,743
♪ And the members of this band
474
00:30:26,869 --> 00:30:29,997
♪ And all the people
at the studio and staff
475
00:30:30,122 --> 00:30:33,166
♪ I never will forget
476
00:30:37,045 --> 00:30:41,008
I want everybody to say this.
Say it. Wait.
477
00:30:41,133 --> 00:30:42,551
♪ Montserrat
478
00:30:42,676 --> 00:30:43,719
Say it.
479
00:30:43,844 --> 00:30:46,513
-AUDIENCE: ♪ Montserrat ♪
-WONDER: ♪ Montserrat ♪
480
00:30:46,638 --> 00:30:48,015
Say it.
481
00:30:48,140 --> 00:30:50,601
-AUDIENCE: ♪ Montserrat ♪
-WONDER AND AUDIENCE: ♪ Montserrat ♪
482
00:30:50,726 --> 00:30:52,561
WONDER: Say it.
483
00:30:52,686 --> 00:30:54,479
ATKIN: When Stevie Wonder arrived,
484
00:30:54,605 --> 00:30:57,774
he and Paul were having
such a good time in the studio,
485
00:30:57,900 --> 00:30:59,610
the sessions were overrunning
486
00:30:59,735 --> 00:31:03,405
and Paul, I think he had
Air Force Two booked
487
00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:06,241
to go back from Antigua back to London.
488
00:31:06,366 --> 00:31:08,911
I can remember sitting next
to the telex machine
489
00:31:09,036 --> 00:31:11,455
and this huge great telex
comes rattling through saying,
490
00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:13,415
"If you don't get here
in the next two hours,
491
00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:15,542
we have to change the crews out again
492
00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:18,712
and it will cost you another $10,000,"
or whatever it was.
493
00:31:18,837 --> 00:31:23,383
And I just kind of turned to John
at the time and just said,
494
00:31:24,343 --> 00:31:27,930
"That's about what we're charging him
a week, isn't it?" (LAUGHS)
495
00:31:32,601 --> 00:31:36,772
JACKSON: When the band finished,
we took them all to the airport,
496
00:31:36,897 --> 00:31:41,777
we loaded them on their planes,
waved our bye-byes, and they all left.
497
00:31:41,902 --> 00:31:45,989
We would all drive up
to St George's Hill
498
00:31:46,114 --> 00:31:49,576
and we would all sit up there,
maybe having a beer,
499
00:31:49,701 --> 00:31:53,789
really not saying much,
just clearing our heads.
500
00:31:53,914 --> 00:31:56,208
And then, OK, back to the studio.
501
00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:59,878
And that was it.
Relaxation over and we'd get back.
502
00:32:00,003 --> 00:32:03,882
But that was special,
we'd just gotten through a gig,
503
00:32:04,007 --> 00:32:06,718
and everything was done,
everything was fine.
504
00:32:06,844 --> 00:32:09,638
Now we were going back
to get ready for the next one.
505
00:32:09,763 --> 00:32:14,768
1981, we didn't have a day off.
We worked back to back.
506
00:32:14,893 --> 00:32:17,271
(ROXANNE PLAYING)
507
00:32:19,147 --> 00:32:22,901
ANDY SUMMERS: We were coming out
of the punk scene in London,
508
00:32:23,026 --> 00:32:27,781
which went from about 1977
to about 1980.
509
00:32:27,906 --> 00:32:29,283
Then it sort of petered out.
510
00:32:29,408 --> 00:32:32,494
But it was a wonderful,
colorful moment in music history.
511
00:32:32,619 --> 00:32:36,331
It was the crucible for The Police,
that's where we started.
512
00:32:36,456 --> 00:32:38,667
♪ Roxanne
513
00:32:39,793 --> 00:32:42,546
♪ You don't have to put on the red light ♪
514
00:32:42,671 --> 00:32:44,923
STING: The Police made three albums
515
00:32:45,048 --> 00:32:51,638
in dingy, sunless recording studios
in England and in Holland,
516
00:32:52,264 --> 00:32:55,976
where we would work
from ten in the evening till dawn.
517
00:32:56,101 --> 00:32:59,897
And we lived that kind of existence
for a couple of years.
518
00:33:02,941 --> 00:33:06,069
Welcome to MTV Music Television,
519
00:33:06,195 --> 00:33:10,199
the world's first
24-hour stereo video music channel.
520
00:33:10,324 --> 00:33:14,077
STING: I think the success of The Police
really was a happy accident,
521
00:33:14,203 --> 00:33:18,624
because it was
the beginning of the MTV era,
522
00:33:18,749 --> 00:33:23,212
and we had a whole slew of videos
we'd already made
523
00:33:23,337 --> 00:33:28,634
and there was this channel,
custom-built to receive these videos.
524
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:35,516
And we became a staple on MTV,
which, of course, added to our success.
525
00:33:36,475 --> 00:33:38,727
-STING: It's nice to be here in Athens.
-(CROWD CHEERING)
526
00:33:40,729 --> 00:33:43,357
What d'you call the place?
Athena or something?
527
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:46,360
STEWART COPELAND: By the third album,
we'd had a couple of hits
528
00:33:46,485 --> 00:33:47,903
and the record company are saying,
529
00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:51,532
"This is now going to be the big one,
if you get this next album right."
530
00:33:51,657 --> 00:33:54,368
And the record company
were there with us to ensure
531
00:33:54,493 --> 00:33:58,038
that we did not stray from the path
of commercial success.
532
00:33:58,163 --> 00:34:03,669
So, for the next album we went 12 hours'
flight away from the record company,
533
00:34:03,794 --> 00:34:07,214
down in the Caribbean,
at Montserrat Studios.
534
00:34:07,339 --> 00:34:08,966
♪ As I walk into a room
535
00:34:09,091 --> 00:34:10,717
♪ I'm a three-line whip
536
00:34:10,842 --> 00:34:12,386
♪ I'm the sort of thing they ban
537
00:34:12,511 --> 00:34:13,762
♪ I'm a walking disaster
538
00:34:13,887 --> 00:34:15,389
♪ I'm a demolition man ♪
539
00:34:18,225 --> 00:34:21,978
STING: And it just looked like
we would have died and gone to heaven.
540
00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:27,609
Because there was a tropical sea
and beautiful skies,
541
00:34:27,734 --> 00:34:31,822
and jungle and a swimming pool
right outside of the studio.
542
00:34:31,947 --> 00:34:36,076
And you could actually see
the daylight through the studio.
543
00:34:36,994 --> 00:34:39,580
This was sort of the rock-star dream.
544
00:34:39,705 --> 00:34:43,500
A fantastic state-of-the-art studio
in the Caribbean.
545
00:34:43,625 --> 00:34:46,003
I mean, this was it, this was like
the Beatles or something.
546
00:34:46,128 --> 00:34:49,882
We sort of reached the pinnacle
with going to those studios.
547
00:34:50,007 --> 00:34:51,675
STING: George would come in
occasionally,
548
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,092
but he wasn't our producer.
549
00:34:53,217 --> 00:34:55,344
Our producer was a man
called Hugh Padgham.
550
00:34:55,469 --> 00:35:00,142
George was more of
a presiding genius around.
551
00:35:00,267 --> 00:35:03,687
He was rarely in the studio with us.
552
00:35:04,563 --> 00:35:07,274
The team were wonderful.
They looked after us.
553
00:35:07,399 --> 00:35:12,487
I would run up the hill every morning
from the villa and jump in the pool,
554
00:35:12,613 --> 00:35:16,617
and then write lyrics or write a tune,
and then make the album.
555
00:35:16,742 --> 00:35:19,703
I developed
a relationship with the island
556
00:35:19,828 --> 00:35:21,496
and the people who live there.
557
00:35:21,622 --> 00:35:26,668
I learned to windsurf on Montserrat.
I was taught by a guy called Danny.
558
00:35:26,793 --> 00:35:30,214
He was very patient with me
because I was a very slow learner.
559
00:35:30,339 --> 00:35:33,884
He's a very brilliant man,
very good friend of mine.
560
00:35:34,968 --> 00:35:36,178
Respects me much.
561
00:35:36,303 --> 00:35:42,184
He said, "Danny, you taught me something
that I'd never known how to do.
562
00:35:42,309 --> 00:35:45,062
The people teach me
or taught me things,
563
00:35:45,187 --> 00:35:48,273
they are my hero,
and you are one of my hero."
564
00:35:48,398 --> 00:35:50,192
Right, the dance steps.
565
00:35:50,317 --> 00:35:52,778
(SNAPS FINGERS)
566
00:35:55,822 --> 00:35:58,825
♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh
567
00:35:59,826 --> 00:36:02,412
♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh
568
00:36:03,580 --> 00:36:06,500
♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh
569
00:36:07,167 --> 00:36:10,128
♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh
570
00:36:11,547 --> 00:36:14,383
♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh ♪
571
00:36:14,508 --> 00:36:19,263
OLIVER: We did some backing vocals
for The Police.
572
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,098
RILEY: It was quite funny, actually.
573
00:36:21,223 --> 00:36:24,935
Twice, I went into the studio
to do backing vocals.
574
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:26,103
They're the same.
575
00:36:26,228 --> 00:36:28,397
-Everybody come and sing.
-Everybody come and sing.
576
00:36:28,522 --> 00:36:31,984
-They wanted, like, a choir.
-Sound like a choir.
577
00:36:32,109 --> 00:36:34,528
(BACKING TRACK PLAYS)
578
00:36:34,653 --> 00:36:36,572
-Hang on, stop.
-(MUSIC STOPS)
579
00:36:36,697 --> 00:36:38,282
OK, I understand.
580
00:36:38,407 --> 00:36:41,201
COPELAND: By this time in our career,
our main songwriter had a technique,
581
00:36:41,326 --> 00:36:44,413
which is to not reveal his songs
until we needed them.
582
00:36:44,538 --> 00:36:49,793
And this song came in
and we heard the demo,
583
00:36:49,918 --> 00:36:51,628
and we all could hear right away
584
00:36:51,753 --> 00:36:55,299
that the demo Sting made by himself,
it's already a hit.
585
00:36:55,424 --> 00:36:57,134
Just put that sucker out right away.
586
00:36:57,259 --> 00:37:00,596
But that didn't suit
our self-image as a band.
587
00:37:00,721 --> 00:37:04,016
(SONG CONTINUES)
588
00:37:07,603 --> 00:37:11,106
And we tried every way.
The punk version, the reggae version.
589
00:37:11,231 --> 00:37:15,152
And so, eventually, one morning
I arrived in the studio, "Fuck it!
590
00:37:15,277 --> 00:37:18,780
Just fucking play your fucked-up demo,
591
00:37:18,906 --> 00:37:21,867
just fucking... just tell me
where the fucking changes are!"
592
00:37:21,992 --> 00:37:25,037
I knew where the changes were,
because we'd tried it every which way.
593
00:37:25,162 --> 00:37:27,664
It's a complicated song
with a lot of different parts.
594
00:37:27,789 --> 00:37:30,542
And so, "OK, roll tape
and I'll play with the demo."
595
00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:33,545
And we did,
and the record that is the record
596
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:38,342
is that morning recording
of that song in one take.
597
00:37:38,467 --> 00:37:41,053
♪ Every little thing she does is magic
598
00:37:41,178 --> 00:37:43,722
♪ Everything she do just turns me on
599
00:37:44,389 --> 00:37:46,892
♪ Even though my life before was tragic
600
00:37:47,017 --> 00:37:49,645
♪ Now I know my love for her goes on
601
00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:53,273
♪ Every little thing she does is magic
602
00:37:53,398 --> 00:37:55,526
♪ Everything she do just turns me on
603
00:37:55,651 --> 00:37:58,445
♪ Even though my life before was tragic
604
00:37:58,570 --> 00:38:02,491
♪ Now I know my love for her goes on ♪
605
00:38:02,616 --> 00:38:05,369
Then we recorded in the studio.
606
00:38:05,494 --> 00:38:10,332
I think Andy was dancing
on George's prized mixing desk,
607
00:38:10,457 --> 00:38:12,251
which didn't go down well
with Mr. Martin.
608
00:38:12,376 --> 00:38:14,753
But he didn't harm it.
He was very light.
609
00:38:14,878 --> 00:38:16,505
We just had fun, it was a fun video.
610
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:17,673
♪ Magic
611
00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:20,634
♪ Magic, magic, magic
612
00:38:20,759 --> 00:38:23,387
♪ Whoa-oh
613
00:38:23,512 --> 00:38:25,389
♪ Yo-oh
614
00:38:26,515 --> 00:38:29,560
♪ Ee-oh-oh-oh, oh ♪
615
00:38:29,685 --> 00:38:32,521
SUMMERS: Being on an island like that,
you can be in the bungalow
616
00:38:32,646 --> 00:38:35,190
in a dry, dusty patch of sand
down near the beach,
617
00:38:35,315 --> 00:38:37,860
and you'll be on your own,
there is no one else.
618
00:38:37,985 --> 00:38:41,697
So it was kind of isolating, and it
brought out some really good things.
619
00:38:41,822 --> 00:38:44,491
Ghost in the Machine
was another major hit album,
620
00:38:44,616 --> 00:38:49,246
but my wife called me and said,
"I want to get divorced," that's it.
621
00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:55,210
In fact, I think was all three of us
probably got divorced
622
00:38:55,335 --> 00:38:58,714
or started divorce proceedings
during Ghost in the Machine.
623
00:39:02,342 --> 00:39:07,931
STING: It was a period
of stratospheric success.
624
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,395
The part of that, the speed
and the size of that success,
625
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,398
also distorts your perception of it.
626
00:39:16,899 --> 00:39:20,736
And we were so filled
with this forward momentum,
627
00:39:20,861 --> 00:39:23,989
we didn't really get a chance
to appreciate it,
628
00:39:24,114 --> 00:39:28,285
except for Montserrat,
which allowed us to calm down.
629
00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:30,412
(SERENE MUSIC PLAYING)
630
00:39:46,929 --> 00:39:50,224
COOPER: Music is the liquid architecture
of our emotions,
631
00:39:50,349 --> 00:39:51,767
and George was a wonderful architect.
632
00:39:51,892 --> 00:39:55,646
He had a way of putting things in place,
in the right place.
633
00:39:55,771 --> 00:40:00,984
In a place that was comfortable
and a place that grew, it was fruitful.
634
00:40:03,153 --> 00:40:05,614
(BIRDS CALL)
635
00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:08,450
(BENNIE AND THE JETS PLAYING)
636
00:40:08,575 --> 00:40:10,911
(CHEERING)
637
00:40:15,457 --> 00:40:18,418
♪ Hey, kids, shake it loose together
638
00:40:18,544 --> 00:40:21,338
♪ The spotlight's hitting something... ♪
639
00:40:21,463 --> 00:40:25,467
The first main wave of success
for Elton and the band
640
00:40:25,592 --> 00:40:32,599
was really from,
like, 1971, '72 till '76.
641
00:40:32,724 --> 00:40:35,269
Just a four-piece
with Elton, me, Dee and Nigel.
642
00:40:35,394 --> 00:40:38,105
We'd made
all those classic records in the '70s,
643
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:40,941
and then there was a gap
where we weren't all together.
644
00:40:41,066 --> 00:40:42,985
We all did different things.
Elton retired.
645
00:40:43,110 --> 00:40:48,782
And he called me in '81 and said,
"I'm gonna put the band back together."
646
00:40:50,242 --> 00:40:51,243
I don't know.
647
00:40:51,368 --> 00:40:55,622
CHRIS THOMAS: I was recording
with Elton, in Paris,
648
00:40:55,747 --> 00:40:58,208
and we weren't getting much done.
649
00:40:58,876 --> 00:41:04,506
Um... that's the diplomatic answer.
(LAUGHS)
650
00:41:04,631 --> 00:41:07,968
I spoke to Elton's manager.
651
00:41:08,093 --> 00:41:11,555
He went to see Elton,
and all of a sudden...
652
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,559
This was, I think, on a Tuesday
and we were flying back to London.
653
00:41:15,684 --> 00:41:19,354
And I was told that we were actually
going to Montserrat on Friday.
654
00:41:22,608 --> 00:41:26,236
We arrived there, and it was
just such a shock to suddenly be there.
655
00:41:26,361 --> 00:41:30,157
It was like,
"Oi! What are we doing here?" (LAUGHS)
656
00:41:30,282 --> 00:41:33,535
We had a couple of days to get over
the jetlag, and then we were off.
657
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:35,662
NIGEL OLSSON: Montserrat
was a whole different deal.
658
00:41:35,787 --> 00:41:39,082
The room was fantastic.
It just had a great atmosphere.
659
00:41:39,208 --> 00:41:42,961
It had George all over it, the studio.
It was just so cool.
660
00:41:43,086 --> 00:41:46,548
I hadn't got any material
before I arrived in Montserrat,
661
00:41:46,673 --> 00:41:49,176
and I wrote 12 songs there.
662
00:41:49,301 --> 00:41:51,678
It's always the danger
that you might not be able to write.
663
00:41:51,803 --> 00:41:53,138
So I quite like that.
664
00:41:53,263 --> 00:41:55,432
For the first half an hour
when I was trying to write,
665
00:41:55,557 --> 00:41:57,309
I couldn't write anything
and I was panicking.
666
00:41:57,434 --> 00:42:01,230
But the way we write, it's very strange.
With Bernie and I, it's something...
667
00:42:01,355 --> 00:42:03,815
It just works, there's a magic there.
668
00:42:03,941 --> 00:42:06,193
Until Too Low for Zero,
with Elton and Bernie,
669
00:42:07,194 --> 00:42:08,570
it had been all over the place.
670
00:42:08,695 --> 00:42:11,865
They hadn't been together much,
hadn't been writing together.
671
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:15,035
And this was the first album back.
It was all Bernie.
672
00:42:16,078 --> 00:42:18,121
And all the original band.
673
00:42:18,247 --> 00:42:21,542
So it was quite a remarkable event.
674
00:42:21,667 --> 00:42:23,710
OLSSON: We were all
on the same wavelength.
675
00:42:23,836 --> 00:42:27,172
We didn't have to tell each other
how it should be.
676
00:42:27,297 --> 00:42:32,386
And the beauty also was
that we heard the songs being written.
677
00:42:32,511 --> 00:42:34,513
So we were in there from the start.
678
00:42:34,638 --> 00:42:37,850
(I GUESS THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT
THE BLUES PLAYING)
679
00:42:45,399 --> 00:42:46,942
JOHNSTONE: I remember the day
680
00:42:47,067 --> 00:42:49,653
that we wrote I Guess That's Why
They Call It the Blues,
681
00:42:49,778 --> 00:42:53,448
because to me, it's one
of the greatest love songs of all time.
682
00:42:53,574 --> 00:42:57,119
And we wrote it in 20 minutes.
Again, it wasn't like a big thing.
683
00:42:57,244 --> 00:43:00,289
It was like, "OK, this, this, this.
Yeah, that sounds great."
684
00:43:00,414 --> 00:43:02,249
And, "Let's get the guys in,
let's record it."
685
00:43:02,374 --> 00:43:06,920
♪ And I guess that's why
they call it the blues
686
00:43:07,045 --> 00:43:09,423
♪ Time on my hands
687
00:43:09,548 --> 00:43:13,010
♪ Could be time spent with you
688
00:43:13,135 --> 00:43:15,762
♪ Laughing like children
689
00:43:15,888 --> 00:43:19,141
♪ Living like lovers
690
00:43:19,266 --> 00:43:21,810
♪ Rolling like thunder
691
00:43:21,935 --> 00:43:24,813
♪ Under the covers
692
00:43:26,231 --> 00:43:29,735
♪ And I guess that's why
they call it the blues ♪
693
00:43:30,235 --> 00:43:32,779
THOMAS: There was something
about being on the same site.
694
00:43:32,905 --> 00:43:38,327
It has this strange effect
of bringing everybody together.
695
00:43:38,452 --> 00:43:40,787
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
696
00:43:43,665 --> 00:43:46,919
One day, Elton said,
"Where'd did you go last night?"
697
00:43:47,044 --> 00:43:50,088
I said, "We went to this new place.
We found this new place."
698
00:43:50,214 --> 00:43:52,841
He said, "Where is it?"
I said, "I'll show you."
699
00:43:52,966 --> 00:43:55,677
So, we were driving along
700
00:43:55,802 --> 00:43:59,348
and we go past
this totally rundown place
701
00:43:59,473 --> 00:44:02,017
with a bit of corrugated iron
over the top.
702
00:44:02,142 --> 00:44:04,520
And Elton goes,
"I love places like that.
703
00:44:04,645 --> 00:44:06,396
Nobody ever invites me
to places like that."
704
00:44:06,522 --> 00:44:08,315
I'm going, "Yeah, sure!"
705
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,817
It's, you know, the bloke
who lives in the Ritz all the time.
706
00:44:10,943 --> 00:44:12,694
So, we went there.
707
00:44:12,819 --> 00:44:17,032
All right now, this is
where we do portionable dining.
708
00:44:17,157 --> 00:44:20,244
MORGAN: The Village Place
was just like ordinary place,
709
00:44:20,369 --> 00:44:22,371
like in the ghetto,
710
00:44:22,496 --> 00:44:26,542
where everybody hangs around
and they serve chicken wings
711
00:44:26,667 --> 00:44:29,837
and you go into the bar
and have some bush rum.
712
00:44:30,254 --> 00:44:32,714
RILEY: But I liked Elton John very much,
713
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,926
because he makes
the whole place lively, very lively.
714
00:44:36,051 --> 00:44:39,555
Yeah, whenever he come here,
man, he just come out,
715
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,515
-and start dancing.
-He's a good guy.
716
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,142
Just dancing in the yard.
717
00:44:44,268 --> 00:44:45,853
RILEY: He was a good guy.
718
00:44:45,978 --> 00:44:49,106
OLIVER: He would take off his shades
and give it to whoever wanted it.
719
00:44:49,231 --> 00:44:54,111
Whenever he goes to the Village Place,
the bar is open until he leave.
720
00:44:54,236 --> 00:44:57,531
Open bar. Anybody who come here,
you get free drinks.
721
00:44:57,656 --> 00:45:02,035
He runs an open tab.
That's him. He's very generous.
722
00:45:02,578 --> 00:45:05,706
Guys that are down,
he brings them up, you know?
723
00:45:05,831 --> 00:45:07,124
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
724
00:45:07,249 --> 00:45:08,750
MICHAEL PAUL STAVROU: After dinner,
725
00:45:10,252 --> 00:45:14,590
we would all congregate back into
the control room with piña coladas
726
00:45:14,715 --> 00:45:16,758
and sit back and listen to the album.
727
00:45:16,884 --> 00:45:23,015
And then, Elton would play it again.
And then, a third time.
728
00:45:23,140 --> 00:45:25,517
About a week into the album,
729
00:45:25,642 --> 00:45:30,981
everybody went to bed after playing
the album through only once,
730
00:45:31,106 --> 00:45:32,316
which upset Elton.
731
00:45:32,441 --> 00:45:34,902
He started ranting about
something about throwing...
732
00:45:35,027 --> 00:45:37,613
"It was a shit album.
I'm gonna throw the tapes in the pool."
733
00:45:37,738 --> 00:45:41,450
And Mike, very, very swiftly,
brilliant idea,
734
00:45:41,575 --> 00:45:45,495
gave him about six blank two-inch tapes.
735
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,415
Elton went out and threw
the whole lot in the swimming pool.
736
00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:49,666
That could've been the album.
737
00:45:49,791 --> 00:45:52,252
(I'M STILL STANDING PLAYING)
738
00:45:58,884 --> 00:46:01,053
When we were working
on Too Low for Zero,
739
00:46:01,178 --> 00:46:03,555
Dee had been suffering from cancer.
740
00:46:04,056 --> 00:46:07,476
So he wasn't in the studio all the time.
741
00:46:07,601 --> 00:46:10,854
Then we got a phone call
one morning saying,
742
00:46:10,979 --> 00:46:13,815
"Nigel can't come in.
He's not very well."
743
00:46:13,941 --> 00:46:17,069
So Elton went, "What the fuck?"
744
00:46:17,194 --> 00:46:20,864
He said, "They're all dropping
like flies!" (LAUGHS)
745
00:46:20,989 --> 00:46:25,744
And over there in the distance,
there's a kind of shelf by the window
746
00:46:25,869 --> 00:46:27,663
separating the control room
and the studio,
747
00:46:27,788 --> 00:46:30,541
and there's this huge cloud
of marijuana smoke.
748
00:46:30,666 --> 00:46:33,168
And lying there, absolutely prone,
749
00:46:33,293 --> 00:46:38,048
was Adrian who was in charge
of all the logistics for the recordings.
750
00:46:38,173 --> 00:46:41,677
Out of this smoke this voice said,
"Well, I'm still standing."
751
00:46:41,802 --> 00:46:46,014
Elton and I just looked at each other,
we just collapsed with laughter.
752
00:46:46,139 --> 00:46:48,725
Then, the next minute,
Elton picked himself up,
753
00:46:48,851 --> 00:46:51,478
phoned up Bernie and said,
"I want you to write this song."
754
00:46:51,603 --> 00:46:53,438
♪ I'm still standing
755
00:46:53,564 --> 00:46:54,940
♪ Better than I ever did
756
00:46:56,525 --> 00:46:58,443
♪ Looking like a true survivor
757
00:46:59,027 --> 00:47:01,196
♪ Feeling like a little kid
758
00:47:02,364 --> 00:47:06,994
♪ I'm still standing after all this time
759
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,706
♪ Picking up the pieces of my life
without you on my mind
760
00:47:12,374 --> 00:47:14,418
♪ I'm still standing... ♪
761
00:47:15,127 --> 00:47:17,254
JOHNSTONE: George Martin came down
762
00:47:17,379 --> 00:47:19,548
when we were there
doing T oo Low for Zero.
763
00:47:19,673 --> 00:47:23,177
And later on, Chris told me
that George had said to him
764
00:47:24,344 --> 00:47:26,763
that he couldn't believe the chemistry
765
00:47:26,889 --> 00:47:31,143
that was happening between
the four of us in the studio. And...
766
00:47:32,144 --> 00:47:37,357
The only thing that he could liken it to
was when he worked with the Beatles.
767
00:47:37,482 --> 00:47:40,527
When we heard that, it was like,
"Shit, OK, I like that."
768
00:47:40,652 --> 00:47:43,572
I've got the same people around me now
as I did 15 years ago.
769
00:47:43,697 --> 00:47:45,365
We've been through ups and downs.
770
00:47:45,490 --> 00:47:48,619
And the pleasure of it all is being
able to share it with these people,
771
00:47:48,744 --> 00:47:50,954
and after all that time,
still be with them,
772
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,248
and I think we're playing better.
773
00:47:54,249 --> 00:47:55,542
And it feels fantastic
774
00:47:55,667 --> 00:47:58,545
to be able to get a second chance
at having that enthusiasm.
775
00:47:58,670 --> 00:48:01,840
And so, that more than anything else,
it means a lot to me.
776
00:48:01,965 --> 00:48:04,635
♪ It's a little bit funny
777
00:48:05,469 --> 00:48:08,013
♪ This feeling inside...
778
00:48:08,138 --> 00:48:09,223
♪ Who can easily hide... ♪
779
00:48:09,348 --> 00:48:11,099
♪ I'm not one of those
780
00:48:11,225 --> 00:48:12,851
(LAUGHTER CONTINUES)
781
00:48:12,976 --> 00:48:15,521
♪ Who can easily hide... ♪
782
00:48:15,646 --> 00:48:19,525
ROBINSON: We did all have good,
fun times. He did three albums with us.
783
00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:23,153
One time, he said
that he was leaving at 21st December.
784
00:48:23,278 --> 00:48:27,324
We were all getting excited because
Montserrat's carnival is at Christmas.
785
00:48:27,449 --> 00:48:32,204
So, we're all thinking, "Soon as the
band have gone, we'll all be partying."
786
00:48:32,329 --> 00:48:35,582
And he's like, "I think I'll stay."
So he stayed.
787
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:37,584
We had a fantastic time.
788
00:48:37,709 --> 00:48:40,712
It was like a big family, sitting
at the table, enjoying Christmas.
789
00:48:40,838 --> 00:48:46,134
So, maybe with Elton,
the excesses were very, very big,
790
00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:47,386
but it didn't make him happy.
791
00:48:47,511 --> 00:48:50,639
It might not have been
anything to do with Montserrat,
792
00:48:50,764 --> 00:48:54,935
but he did have an experience
that quite changed him, obviously.
793
00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:58,856
(SINGING AND SAXOPHONE SOLO)
794
00:49:04,444 --> 00:49:07,406
OLSSON: It was a place
that was put there
795
00:49:07,531 --> 00:49:12,369
for people to understand themselves,
to inspire the world.
796
00:49:12,494 --> 00:49:16,915
Because there was a lot of stuff
came out of Montserrat that is forever.
797
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,668
-One, two.
-One, two.
798
00:49:20,627 --> 00:49:25,007
COOPER: In London,
I was often overdubbing in the studios
799
00:49:25,132 --> 00:49:26,925
on work that had come from Montserrat.
800
00:49:27,050 --> 00:49:29,303
I would say sometimes,
"This is from Montserrat."
801
00:49:29,428 --> 00:49:30,846
They'd say, "How did you know?"
802
00:49:30,971 --> 00:49:32,973
I'd say, "I can hear it,
believe it or not."
803
00:49:33,098 --> 00:49:36,143
There's something in the air
that's surrounding these notes.
804
00:49:36,268 --> 00:49:39,813
There's a sympathy between the notes,
an understanding.
805
00:49:39,938 --> 00:49:41,773
That can only come
when you're working with George
806
00:49:41,899 --> 00:49:43,775
or in one of his environments.
807
00:49:43,901 --> 00:49:45,360
(RIO PLAYING)
808
00:49:47,613 --> 00:49:53,160
♪ Her name is Rio
and she dances on the sand
809
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:55,996
♪ Just like that river
810
00:49:56,121 --> 00:49:59,416
♪ Twisting through a dusty land ♪
811
00:50:00,292 --> 00:50:02,419
IAN LITTLE: The '80s was probably
812
00:50:02,544 --> 00:50:07,216
one of the most inventive decades
for pop music.
813
00:50:07,758 --> 00:50:12,429
You'd had the punk movement in '76, '77,
then you had new wave,
814
00:50:12,554 --> 00:50:15,390
bridged the gap
from the '70s into the '80s.
815
00:50:15,516 --> 00:50:18,352
And then you had this thing
called the New Romantics,
816
00:50:18,477 --> 00:50:22,022
which was Duran Duran,
Spandau Ballet, Culture Club.
817
00:50:22,147 --> 00:50:24,191
And Duran were the biggest of the bunch.
818
00:50:24,316 --> 00:50:26,318
(FANS SHRIEK)
819
00:50:34,034 --> 00:50:36,578
RHODES:
We'd just finished the Rio album,
820
00:50:36,703 --> 00:50:38,080
and we were chasing The Police,
821
00:50:38,747 --> 00:50:40,958
because they were
a little bit older than us.
822
00:50:41,083 --> 00:50:44,378
They were ahead of us in America,
and it was time to make another album.
823
00:50:44,503 --> 00:50:47,047
And then we thought,
"We can't go back to England."
824
00:50:47,172 --> 00:50:51,176
Because it was just a little too crazy
with all the hysteria at that point.
825
00:50:51,301 --> 00:50:53,512
We couldn't really move in the street.
826
00:50:53,637 --> 00:50:55,848
So we wanted
to get as far away as we could.
827
00:50:55,973 --> 00:51:00,727
AIR Studios Montserrat looked
very appealing from the brochures.
828
00:51:00,853 --> 00:51:04,857
And, of course,
having George Martin involved,
829
00:51:04,982 --> 00:51:08,235
we figured that everything's
gonna be perfect there.
830
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,237
(THE REFLEX PLAYING)
831
00:51:14,032 --> 00:51:18,495
RHODES: When we arrived, it was like
being in a surrealist painting.
832
00:51:19,371 --> 00:51:23,333
You go, and there's black sand
everywhere, and the volcano,
833
00:51:23,458 --> 00:51:26,712
and these giant iguanas.
834
00:51:26,837 --> 00:51:29,506
One thing that was a bit of a shock
835
00:51:29,631 --> 00:51:34,094
was that we were used
to living our lives
836
00:51:34,219 --> 00:51:37,306
completely under media scrutiny.
837
00:51:37,431 --> 00:51:40,100
And it was days when you'd wake up
838
00:51:40,225 --> 00:51:44,062
and there'd be someone hiding
in your hedge in your front garden.
839
00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:48,567
You'd have to draw the curtains quickly
when you're having breakfast.
840
00:51:49,735 --> 00:51:54,072
So, suddenly there, there was no one.
841
00:51:54,198 --> 00:51:59,244
It was like suddenly going under water
and there was silence.
842
00:51:59,369 --> 00:52:01,330
(INSECTS CHIRRUP)
843
00:52:04,917 --> 00:52:07,336
(THE REFLEX PLAYING)
844
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:16,011
LITTLE: In Montserrat, we had fun.
845
00:52:16,136 --> 00:52:18,889
We're not that straight-laced.
We're making rock 'n' roll.
846
00:52:19,014 --> 00:52:21,058
When we first arrived,
847
00:52:21,183 --> 00:52:25,729
and when we made it known
to the staff at the studio
848
00:52:25,854 --> 00:52:27,523
that we wanted some grass,
849
00:52:27,648 --> 00:52:31,777
within, I don't know, 15 minutes,
some kid arrived with a plant
850
00:52:31,902 --> 00:52:34,821
that he just uprooted
and stuck in a carrier bag.
851
00:52:35,531 --> 00:52:41,203
RHODES: For Simon, he loves sunshine
and he loves being outdoors
852
00:52:41,328 --> 00:52:43,288
and he loves boats and water.
853
00:52:43,413 --> 00:52:48,043
So it was a dream to be able
to be at a studio in the Caribbean,
854
00:52:48,168 --> 00:52:53,298
do a few hours' work,
then go off and have fun in the sea.
855
00:52:53,423 --> 00:52:58,136
For me,
really hot climates and isolation,
856
00:52:58,262 --> 00:53:03,350
personally are not
so great for creativity
857
00:53:03,475 --> 00:53:07,104
when you wanna do something
with a little experimentation.
858
00:53:07,229 --> 00:53:12,150
And so I really had a bit
of personality clash with it creatively.
859
00:53:12,276 --> 00:53:16,905
And I ended up working
into the night mostly in the studio,
860
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:20,576
because there was no disruptions,
people weren't running out of the door
861
00:53:20,701 --> 00:53:22,744
to jump in the swimming pool
every five minutes.
862
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:25,122
And I could actually focus on things.
863
00:53:25,247 --> 00:53:28,000
But, having said that,
when we were there,
864
00:53:28,125 --> 00:53:31,545
we got the basis for
the Seven and the Ragged Tiger album,
865
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:34,673
The Reflex
and The Union of the Snake.
866
00:53:34,798 --> 00:53:38,218
♪ The reflex is a lonely child
867
00:53:38,343 --> 00:53:42,222
♪ Who's waiting by the park
868
00:53:42,347 --> 00:53:45,934
♪ The reflex is in charge of finding
869
00:53:46,059 --> 00:53:49,771
♪ Treasure in the dark
870
00:53:49,897 --> 00:53:53,025
♪ And watching over lucky clover... ♪
871
00:53:53,692 --> 00:53:57,946
Being in Montserrat, you certainly felt
isolated from the real world.
872
00:53:58,071 --> 00:54:03,202
It did end up feeling like
we were disconnected from the fans
873
00:54:03,327 --> 00:54:05,579
because we were just living
in paradise,
874
00:54:05,704 --> 00:54:09,333
and that's why we decided
we need to finish the album in a city.
875
00:54:09,917 --> 00:54:14,171
RHODES: We went to Montserrat
with all good intentions,
876
00:54:14,296 --> 00:54:17,132
and to George Martin's great credit,
877
00:54:17,257 --> 00:54:21,011
he pulled off something
that was pretty extraordinary.
878
00:54:21,136 --> 00:54:27,976
But I'm not sure
that we were in the right headspace
879
00:54:28,727 --> 00:54:31,396
to make the kind of record there
880
00:54:31,522 --> 00:54:35,567
that might have been
a little more chilled.
881
00:54:35,692 --> 00:54:38,445
We wanted
to make something full of energy.
882
00:54:38,570 --> 00:54:40,447
Duran Duran came, and they were young.
883
00:54:40,572 --> 00:54:44,326
As they were there, I think two of them
celebrated their 21st birthday.
884
00:54:44,451 --> 00:54:46,620
And they were
at the height of their fame.
885
00:54:46,745 --> 00:54:52,000
So, of course, they were probably
wanting to be in the jet-set place.
886
00:54:52,125 --> 00:54:53,836
So, it wasn't exactly right for them.
887
00:54:53,961 --> 00:54:57,923
We had some other bands like Ultravox.
They were young at the time.
888
00:54:58,048 --> 00:55:00,300
Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark,
they came.
889
00:55:00,425 --> 00:55:02,052
But it was right for them
890
00:55:02,177 --> 00:55:04,680
because they were ready to enjoy
what Montserrat offered.
891
00:55:23,949 --> 00:55:25,784
LOU REED: We went to Montserrat once
and recorded.
892
00:55:25,909 --> 00:55:27,327
That wasn't a good experience for me.
893
00:55:27,452 --> 00:55:31,331
Palm trees and the ocean
and the sand's too relaxing.
894
00:55:31,456 --> 00:55:32,666
I need to hear traffic.
895
00:55:39,423 --> 00:55:44,052
JOHNSTONE: They sold Valium over
the counter, which was fucking insane
896
00:55:44,178 --> 00:55:46,597
because you'd walk into the store
and go,
897
00:55:46,722 --> 00:55:49,725
"I'll have a bottle of shampoo,
packet of razorblades,
898
00:55:49,850 --> 00:55:51,852
50 Valium and a Mars bar."
899
00:55:56,273 --> 00:56:00,194
We got on this little plane,
propeller plane.
900
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:03,822
And the pilot's got a joint in his hand.
901
00:56:03,947 --> 00:56:06,783
I'm going, "This doesn't look too safe."
902
00:56:12,164 --> 00:56:15,334
I've seen bands that came down and...
903
00:56:16,585 --> 00:56:20,714
changed, like, their work pattern.
904
00:56:20,839 --> 00:56:24,676
They say it themselves. "Wow!
We did such and such in two days.
905
00:56:24,801 --> 00:56:27,721
It's unbelievable. We've never done
that before. That was a six-week job."
906
00:56:32,267 --> 00:56:35,646
HARRIES: The place was like that.
It made you intense.
907
00:56:35,771 --> 00:56:39,650
It sort of intensified everything
that you were.
908
00:56:39,775 --> 00:56:44,613
But it also got a reputation for a place
where you could get things done.
909
00:56:44,738 --> 00:56:48,158
One of the things that happened
with a lot a very famous people
910
00:56:48,283 --> 00:56:51,745
was they lost sight
of how they became famous.
911
00:56:51,870 --> 00:56:53,789
Coming to an island like this,
912
00:56:53,914 --> 00:56:57,042
you were shoved
straight back into each other's faces
913
00:56:57,167 --> 00:56:58,710
and you had to
go and make another album.
914
00:56:58,836 --> 00:57:00,921
But at the moment,
I want to have a fight.
915
00:57:01,046 --> 00:57:03,298
Much better television
than your questions,
916
00:57:03,423 --> 00:57:04,633
-I promise you.
-OK.
917
00:57:04,758 --> 00:57:08,887
-Shall we film me whopping Sting?
-Yes. That would be great.
918
00:57:09,012 --> 00:57:11,056
SUMMERS: The Police, album one,
album two,
919
00:57:11,181 --> 00:57:13,559
it was us against the world.
920
00:57:13,684 --> 00:57:16,770
By the time we got up to Synchronicity,
we were world-famous,
921
00:57:16,895 --> 00:57:19,982
everything had changed, and it was,
"Why should we be a band anymore?"
922
00:57:20,107 --> 00:57:21,650
(TUNES GUITAR)
923
00:57:21,775 --> 00:57:23,360
Shall we tune the guitar for you, man?
924
00:57:23,485 --> 00:57:25,153
SUMMERS: So when we got back
to Montserrat,
925
00:57:25,279 --> 00:57:27,990
we were so isolated from each other,
926
00:57:28,115 --> 00:57:30,868
that it got really difficult to...
927
00:57:30,993 --> 00:57:33,704
you know, imagine being in the studio
and making a record.
928
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:35,205
It was sort of icy.
929
00:57:35,330 --> 00:57:37,457
COPELAND: We went there
for the isolation,
930
00:57:37,583 --> 00:57:40,294
but we soon found
that without anything else around us,
931
00:57:40,419 --> 00:57:43,046
we had only each other
to drive each other bananas.
932
00:57:43,172 --> 00:57:47,176
And we all saw the irony of it,
933
00:57:47,301 --> 00:57:49,678
although we were screaming
and shouting at each other,
934
00:57:49,803 --> 00:57:55,184
that here we were in this paradise,
which we soon turned into a living hell.
935
00:57:55,309 --> 00:57:56,977
MAN: Yeah!
936
00:57:57,102 --> 00:57:59,313
(GUITAR PLAYING)
937
00:58:01,231 --> 00:58:04,026
SUMMERS: I was the only one, personally,
the guitar player
938
00:58:04,151 --> 00:58:06,778
in the studio itself,
this recording room.
939
00:58:06,904 --> 00:58:10,782
Then there was the control room,
where the Neve desk was.
940
00:58:10,908 --> 00:58:15,996
Sting was in there playing his bass,
and Stewart was up in the dining room.
941
00:58:16,121 --> 00:58:18,290
We were playing together,
but weren't seeing each other.
942
00:58:18,415 --> 00:58:20,959
We were all completely isolated
and playing through headphones,
943
00:58:21,084 --> 00:58:22,211
which was sort of bizarre.
944
00:58:22,336 --> 00:58:24,505
What they all wanted in those days,
945
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:27,341
this is a different period
of recording techniques,
946
00:58:27,466 --> 00:58:29,468
was perfect separation.
947
00:58:29,593 --> 00:58:30,844
And that's what we had,
948
00:58:30,969 --> 00:58:33,972
and that's what we were gonna be
as people too, perfect separation.
949
00:58:34,097 --> 00:58:37,017
COPELAND: I did not like recording
in the dining room,
950
00:58:37,142 --> 00:58:40,229
because it was lonely and grumpy.
951
00:58:40,354 --> 00:58:44,566
And it wasn't the feeling
of what I liked about the band,
952
00:58:44,691 --> 00:58:47,194
which was the interaction.
953
00:58:47,319 --> 00:58:50,364
That's what we did live
and what's so exciting.
954
00:58:50,489 --> 00:58:54,368
But it was quite miserable.
I couldn't wait to get off that island
955
00:58:54,493 --> 00:58:56,662
and put it behind me, and have it done.
956
00:58:57,454 --> 00:59:01,792
STING: Well, the conflict in the band
is kind of storied
957
00:59:01,917 --> 00:59:04,002
and it may well be exaggerated.
958
00:59:04,878 --> 00:59:10,008
But for me, it was a function
of the creative process.
959
00:59:10,133 --> 00:59:14,471
You have three alpha males
trying to forge something
960
00:59:14,596 --> 00:59:17,307
that points in one direction
and not three.
961
00:59:18,809 --> 00:59:21,270
We weren't physically aggressive
with each other,
962
00:59:21,395 --> 00:59:23,230
but it got pretty heated in there
963
00:59:23,355 --> 00:59:28,151
but really because we cared passionately
about what each of us were doing.
964
00:59:28,902 --> 00:59:33,323
And, um... But it was not easy.
965
00:59:33,448 --> 00:59:37,160
It was great to have an environment
around us where you could escape to.
966
00:59:37,286 --> 00:59:40,289
I could go walking in the hills.
967
00:59:40,414 --> 00:59:42,749
In fact, I went up to the volcano
a couple of times.
968
00:59:42,875 --> 00:59:47,004
You'd come back smelling of sulfur.
People would think you'd been to hell.
969
00:59:47,129 --> 00:59:48,463
WOMAN: So, back to the top?
970
00:59:48,589 --> 00:59:50,257
-(MUSIC PLAYING)
-(TAPE STOPS)
971
00:59:50,382 --> 00:59:55,387
It's OK. All right, yeah, it sounds OK.
It's C, F and A now, yeah.
972
00:59:55,512 --> 00:59:57,264
SUMMERS: We got to a point
fairly early on
973
00:59:57,389 --> 00:59:59,224
where we almost couldn't
speak to each other.
974
00:59:59,349 --> 01:00:03,437
It was tense, the atmosphere was tense,
like we shouldn't be doing this anymore.
975
01:00:03,562 --> 01:00:05,189
We need a producer.
976
01:00:05,314 --> 01:00:08,150
I said, "What about George Martin?
He produced the Beatles. Surely?"
977
01:00:08,275 --> 01:00:11,987
And we were up there,
so he'll probably take the job.
978
01:00:12,112 --> 01:00:14,990
Sting and Stewart said,
"Well, you go and get him then."
979
01:00:15,115 --> 01:00:16,491
So I said, "Right, I will."
980
01:00:16,617 --> 01:00:19,953
We sat down and he said,
"Would you like a cup of tea?"
981
01:00:20,078 --> 01:00:22,372
I said I'd have a cup of tea.
So we're having a cup of tea.
982
01:00:22,497 --> 01:00:24,791
I start to tell him
about the problems with the band.
983
01:00:24,917 --> 01:00:28,420
And I said, "We'd like you
to come over and produce us."
984
01:00:28,545 --> 01:00:30,422
He said, "Um... not sure."
985
01:00:30,547 --> 01:00:32,758
Maybe he wasn't
in the producing mood at that point.
986
01:00:32,883 --> 01:00:35,761
He said, "I think you can sort it out.
You're grown-ups.
987
01:00:35,886 --> 01:00:39,223
Come on, I think you can do it.
There's a lot at stake here."
988
01:00:39,348 --> 01:00:43,018
So, we had a very nice time
having tea and chatting.
989
01:00:43,143 --> 01:00:46,355
I walked all the way back
across the valley in the beating heat,
990
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,024
and we were all incredibly polite
to one another
991
01:00:49,149 --> 01:00:51,401
and very nice for the rest of the album.
992
01:00:51,527 --> 01:00:52,569
That cured it.
993
01:00:52,694 --> 01:00:55,113
(EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE PLAYING)
994
01:01:07,459 --> 01:01:10,045
♪ Every breath you take
995
01:01:11,171 --> 01:01:13,841
♪ Every move you make
996
01:01:15,217 --> 01:01:17,094
♪ Every bond you break
997
01:01:17,219 --> 01:01:19,137
♪ Every step you take
998
01:01:19,263 --> 01:01:21,098
♪ I'll be watching you... ♪
999
01:01:21,557 --> 01:01:23,392
COPELAND: Every Breath You Take
was very different
1000
01:01:23,517 --> 01:01:25,185
from most of our other recordings,
1001
01:01:25,310 --> 01:01:27,729
because it was pieced together
bit by bit.
1002
01:01:27,855 --> 01:01:32,526
It was another song
that we knew was a huge hit.
1003
01:01:32,651 --> 01:01:38,073
Do not mess with it,
do not get in the way of a big hit.
1004
01:01:38,198 --> 01:01:43,203
So every element was recorded
completely separately.
1005
01:01:43,328 --> 01:01:46,123
And the result is actually kinda cool.
1006
01:01:46,248 --> 01:01:49,960
It's very composed,
all the parts are very composed.
1007
01:01:50,419 --> 01:01:54,923
And at the same time,
emotionally very powerful.
1008
01:01:55,048 --> 01:01:59,094
♪ Since you've gone
I've been lost without a trace
1009
01:01:59,219 --> 01:02:03,265
♪ I dream at night
I can only see your face
1010
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:07,436
♪ I look around
but it's you I can't replace
1011
01:02:07,561 --> 01:02:11,565
♪ I feel so cold
and I long for your embrace
1012
01:02:11,690 --> 01:02:18,697
♪ I keep cryin', "Baby, baby, please" ♪
1013
01:02:25,078 --> 01:02:28,373
You know, maybe the best music
comes out of this sort of tension.
1014
01:02:28,498 --> 01:02:29,583
I've always believed that.
1015
01:02:29,708 --> 01:02:34,213
I think that The Police
had three distinct personalities
1016
01:02:34,338 --> 01:02:37,758
which were not the ideal bedmates,
because we weren't mellow guys.
1017
01:02:37,883 --> 01:02:43,722
But I think that firecracker complex
is what sort of fuels the music.
1018
01:02:43,847 --> 01:02:47,059
In hindsight, it was worth it,
and we could all see...
1019
01:02:47,184 --> 01:02:52,105
When we had calmed down, left the island
and we went back to the real world,
1020
01:02:52,231 --> 01:02:53,607
all those battles that we'd fought
1021
01:02:53,732 --> 01:02:57,152
and arguments about what we were gonna
do and how we were gonna do it,
1022
01:02:57,277 --> 01:03:00,364
they were worth it, because
it really did light the thing up.
1023
01:03:00,489 --> 01:03:03,951
And we all can say
that if I'd had my way every day,
1024
01:03:04,076 --> 01:03:06,620
it wouldn't have been
a great album that it was.
1025
01:03:06,745 --> 01:03:09,790
If we had let Sting get away
with every commandment,
1026
01:03:09,915 --> 01:03:14,169
and if Andy had put in
every guitar solo, uh...
1027
01:03:14,294 --> 01:03:15,963
it wouldn't have been the same thing.
1028
01:03:16,088 --> 01:03:20,968
We kind of needed each other
to restrain and incite each other.
1029
01:03:21,093 --> 01:03:22,803
♪ I'll be watching you
1030
01:03:22,928 --> 01:03:24,972
♪ Every move you make
1031
01:03:25,097 --> 01:03:26,807
♪ Every vow you break
1032
01:03:26,932 --> 01:03:29,101
♪ Every smile you fake
1033
01:03:29,226 --> 01:03:31,061
♪ I'll be watching you
1034
01:03:31,186 --> 01:03:32,938
♪ Every single day
1035
01:03:33,063 --> 01:03:35,440
♪ Every word you say... ♪
1036
01:03:35,566 --> 01:03:38,485
STING: Synchronicity
was our biggest success.
1037
01:03:38,610 --> 01:03:40,487
It had songs like Every Breath You Take,
1038
01:03:40,612 --> 01:03:44,616
and King of Pain
and Wrapped Around Your Finger.
1039
01:03:44,741 --> 01:03:49,830
But I did decide during that recording
that I didn't want to do this again.
1040
01:03:49,955 --> 01:03:54,084
That we had achieved everything
we set out to do as a band,
1041
01:03:54,209 --> 01:03:58,797
and achieved it tenfold, a hundredfold
more than our expectations,
1042
01:03:58,922 --> 01:04:03,260
and so, after that, I figured
it would just be diminishing returns.
1043
01:04:03,385 --> 01:04:08,348
So I wanted to use the momentum
we'd gained to set out on my own.
1044
01:04:08,473 --> 01:04:13,437
After we finished the Police album,
Sting stays there for a bit of a holiday
1045
01:04:13,562 --> 01:04:18,400
and the next band in is Dire Straits,
and the rest is history.
1046
01:04:18,901 --> 01:04:25,032
♪ I want my MTV ♪
1047
01:04:26,742 --> 01:04:28,827
I want my MTV!
1048
01:04:28,952 --> 01:04:34,333
KNOPFLER: I've seen on MTV
The Police doing an ad for it.
1049
01:04:34,458 --> 01:04:39,630
And I thought, "If I stick that
to Don't Stand So Close to Me,
1050
01:04:40,839 --> 01:04:43,050
those notes, that would fit."
1051
01:04:43,967 --> 01:04:48,514
Anyway, we were recording
Money for Nothing,
1052
01:04:48,639 --> 01:04:51,934
and I said to somebody,
"I wish Sting was here."
1053
01:04:52,059 --> 01:04:55,103
And somebody said,
"Well, he is here, he's on holiday."
1054
01:04:55,229 --> 01:04:57,397
(MONEY FOR NOTHING PLAYING)
1055
01:05:07,866 --> 01:05:08,909
Ow!
1056
01:05:22,339 --> 01:05:23,507
♪ Listen here, now
1057
01:05:23,632 --> 01:05:25,384
♪ That ain't workin'
1058
01:05:25,509 --> 01:05:26,844
♪ That's the way you do it
1059
01:05:27,678 --> 01:05:29,805
♪ You play the guitar on your MTV... ♪
1060
01:05:30,806 --> 01:05:33,016
Trudie said to me,
"That's gonna be such a huge hit."
1061
01:05:33,141 --> 01:05:36,645
I said, "I dunno, it's OK."
1062
01:05:36,770 --> 01:05:40,566
Of course, it was the biggest hit
of that year, so I was very...
1063
01:05:40,691 --> 01:05:43,110
very proud to have been on that,
but it's purely a function
1064
01:05:43,235 --> 01:05:45,988
of just being in the right place
at the right time.
1065
01:05:46,113 --> 01:05:48,031
♪ We are the sultans
1066
01:05:49,408 --> 01:05:52,661
♪ Yeah, we are the sultans of swing
1067
01:05:52,786 --> 01:05:54,538
♪ That's right... ♪
1068
01:05:57,416 --> 01:06:00,544
KNOPFLER: There'd been something
going on with the other albums.
1069
01:06:00,669 --> 01:06:05,716
There'd been a sort of a build-up,
because we were playing live
1070
01:06:05,841 --> 01:06:09,178
and there was a big demand
to see the band live.
1071
01:06:09,303 --> 01:06:13,348
Because the feeling was
that not only could we do it all live,
1072
01:06:13,473 --> 01:06:16,351
but it was better
than playing the records.
1073
01:06:16,476 --> 01:06:19,271
That was reaching
a sort of critical mass.
1074
01:06:19,396 --> 01:06:21,523
(GUITAR SOLO)
1075
01:06:26,236 --> 01:06:28,405
NEIL DORSFMAN:
Mark wanted to try something different
1076
01:06:28,530 --> 01:06:30,824
in the approach
to recording Brothers in Arms.
1077
01:06:30,949 --> 01:06:34,119
After we did Love Over Gold,
we were both displeased
1078
01:06:34,244 --> 01:06:37,289
with how analogue tape would change
the sound of our recordings
1079
01:06:37,414 --> 01:06:38,540
while we were doing it.
1080
01:06:38,624 --> 01:06:41,168
Dire Straits' manager
was conscious of that
1081
01:06:41,293 --> 01:06:45,005
and encouraged Mark to record the album
digitally and mix it digitally.
1082
01:06:45,130 --> 01:06:49,718
So, it was an all-digital recording
ultimately winding up on CD.
1083
01:06:49,843 --> 01:06:52,179
And it was one of the first records
to be done that way,
1084
01:06:52,304 --> 01:06:56,183
and I think he wanted the time
and the peace and quiet of Montserrat
1085
01:06:56,308 --> 01:06:57,684
to do it there.
1086
01:06:57,809 --> 01:06:59,770
(SO FAR AWAY PLAYING)
1087
01:07:15,953 --> 01:07:19,957
KNOPFLER: If you come into a studio
from Oxford Circus,
1088
01:07:20,082 --> 01:07:21,708
you'll be slightly hyper.
1089
01:07:21,834 --> 01:07:24,211
You've come out of the Tube,
or wherever you've come from,
1090
01:07:24,336 --> 01:07:28,006
and you're in a different mental place.
1091
01:07:28,131 --> 01:07:32,803
When you come from the track
up to the studio in Montserrat,
1092
01:07:32,928 --> 01:07:34,680
you go in the kitchen, you see George
1093
01:07:34,805 --> 01:07:36,890
and you get a cup of coffee
and you're wandering around.
1094
01:07:37,015 --> 01:07:40,060
And it's just
more of a home studio vibe.
1095
01:07:40,185 --> 01:07:44,231
But there's no getting away
from the fact that that kind of life,
1096
01:07:44,356 --> 01:07:48,277
a rum-punch evening
and a later start kind of a thing,
1097
01:07:48,402 --> 01:07:53,156
it will start to worm its way
into your work methods.
1098
01:07:53,282 --> 01:07:55,784
GUY FLETCHER: It would be a lie
to say we came away from there
1099
01:07:55,909 --> 01:07:59,621
without being touched deeply
by the place.
1100
01:07:59,746 --> 01:08:03,667
The sound of the island
does come across on the record.
1101
01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:07,546
♪ You're so far away from me
1102
01:08:09,047 --> 01:08:12,092
♪ You're so far, I just can't see
1103
01:08:12,968 --> 01:08:15,679
♪ You're so far away from me
1104
01:08:17,305 --> 01:08:20,725
♪ You're so far away from me ♪
1105
01:08:20,850 --> 01:08:23,312
DORSFMAN: I mean,
it was almost too chill in a way.
1106
01:08:23,437 --> 01:08:27,774
I remember, we were doing some track
a couple of weeks into the record,
1107
01:08:27,899 --> 01:08:31,278
and I was looking out
and everybody was in a towel
1108
01:08:31,403 --> 01:08:34,615
with sun cream on the nose, sunglasses.
1109
01:08:34,740 --> 01:08:37,451
They were playing,
like, 40 beats per minute.
1110
01:08:37,576 --> 01:08:41,205
I was like, "We're making a record here!
What is this?"
1111
01:08:41,330 --> 01:08:43,372
It was too mellow.
1112
01:08:43,497 --> 01:08:47,586
At any time in the studio,
it's very easy to lose perspective,
1113
01:08:47,711 --> 01:08:50,714
especially when you're locked up
and it becomes your whole world.
1114
01:08:50,839 --> 01:08:53,133
In fact, George Martin,
down in Montserrat said to me,
1115
01:08:53,258 --> 01:08:56,970
"You know, Neil,
a producer can either drive the bus
1116
01:08:57,095 --> 01:09:01,934
or he can sit next to the driver
with the roadmap, you know?"
1117
01:09:02,059 --> 01:09:06,729
And it was up to me
to sort of keep that energy higher,
1118
01:09:06,854 --> 01:09:08,732
because the record, I think,
was suffering.
1119
01:09:08,857 --> 01:09:12,819
KNOPFLER: Neil would be one of
the most important people in my history.
1120
01:09:12,944 --> 01:09:16,948
You know, it's due to him
that we got back on track.
1121
01:09:17,073 --> 01:09:21,203
We were there a long time
before trying to get it going, but...
1122
01:09:22,037 --> 01:09:27,376
Once we hit a groove we recorded
the album very quickly, really fast.
1123
01:09:27,501 --> 01:09:31,337
All the Brothers in Arms album
was done in a few days.
1124
01:09:31,462 --> 01:09:33,465
(WALK OF LIFE PLAYING)
1125
01:09:43,308 --> 01:09:47,104
FLETCHER: In a lot of our spare time,
we used to go down to the beach,
1126
01:09:47,229 --> 01:09:49,857
and we soon noticed
there were a couple of windsurf boards,
1127
01:09:49,982 --> 01:09:52,776
and that Danny was offering
to teach windsurfing.
1128
01:09:52,901 --> 01:09:56,363
I becomes friends
with the Dire Straits band.
1129
01:09:57,155 --> 01:09:59,867
That's after I had taught Alan Clark
and Guy Fletcher to windsurf.
1130
01:09:59,992 --> 01:10:04,121
So one day after I and Alan Clark went
windsurfing and come out, Alan said,
1131
01:10:04,246 --> 01:10:06,582
"I'm taking you up to the AIR Studios
for lunch."
1132
01:10:06,707 --> 01:10:09,209
I said, "OK," and I went up
1133
01:10:09,334 --> 01:10:12,838
and they're there,
and they're mixing the music they did.
1134
01:10:13,714 --> 01:10:17,426
I started dancing to the music,
and then he said to me,
1135
01:10:18,677 --> 01:10:22,639
"You know I wrote a song
on you dancing?" I said,
1136
01:10:22,764 --> 01:10:28,937
"Mark, that's going to be
a damn big recording hit for you.
1137
01:10:29,062 --> 01:10:30,898
I'm predicting to you,
1138
01:10:31,023 --> 01:10:34,860
that is going to be your biggest album
that you ever make."
1139
01:10:34,985 --> 01:10:37,821
Now, it's one
of the biggest album in the world.
1140
01:10:37,946 --> 01:10:39,740
Everybody loves the song Walk of Life.
1141
01:10:40,449 --> 01:10:42,284
♪ He do the song about
the sweet-lovin' woman
1142
01:10:42,409 --> 01:10:44,369
♪ He do the song about the knife
1143
01:10:45,579 --> 01:10:47,289
♪ He do the walk
1144
01:10:47,414 --> 01:10:49,374
♪ Do the walk of life
1145
01:10:49,917 --> 01:10:51,793
♪ Yeah, he do the walk of life... ♪
1146
01:10:51,919 --> 01:10:54,546
DORSFMAN: Brothers in Arms was one
of the first all-digital recordings,
1147
01:10:54,671 --> 01:10:59,468
and that in tandem with MTV
blowing up at the same time,
1148
01:10:59,593 --> 01:11:01,386
I think that's a huge reason
1149
01:11:01,512 --> 01:11:03,972
why everything changed for the band
at that point.
1150
01:11:04,097 --> 01:11:06,141
OK, best British LP.
1151
01:11:06,266 --> 01:11:08,227
Brothers in Arms, Dire Straits.
1152
01:11:08,352 --> 01:11:09,853
(CHEERING)
1153
01:11:11,897 --> 01:11:14,858
KNOPFLER: I didn't have a clue about
how successful the album was.
1154
01:11:14,983 --> 01:11:18,111
I don't think we did.
Never thought about it.
1155
01:11:18,237 --> 01:11:23,575
When Philips invented the CD
and then brought it out,
1156
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:26,870
that just coincided
with the release of Brothers.
1157
01:11:26,995 --> 01:11:32,000
So they took that and used it as,
"This is what CD sounds like."
1158
01:11:32,125 --> 01:11:35,504
And then, they used all
their sales outlets to play the record.
1159
01:11:35,629 --> 01:11:40,425
So that was an additional thing
that just happened by a fluke, really.
1160
01:11:40,551 --> 01:11:43,387
DORSFMAN: In the '80s,
somebody smart figured out
1161
01:11:43,512 --> 01:11:46,098
that you can make a boatload
of money in the record business.
1162
01:11:46,223 --> 01:11:48,767
And with the cheapness of CDs,
1163
01:11:48,892 --> 01:11:54,606
to make a CD, to fully manufacture,
everything was less than a dollar.
1164
01:11:54,731 --> 01:11:57,401
So, there was a calculation there,
1165
01:11:57,526 --> 01:12:01,697
and like everything in the modern world,
it quickly became monetized.
1166
01:12:02,155 --> 01:12:07,077
MAN: There was a lot of excitement
associated with the coming of the CD.
1167
01:12:07,536 --> 01:12:08,871
The consumer loved it.
1168
01:12:08,996 --> 01:12:12,749
As a result, the record industry
exploded at that point.
1169
01:12:12,875 --> 01:12:15,377
(BUSTIN' AT THE SEAMS PLAYING)
1170
01:12:21,133 --> 01:12:23,218
GLOVER: It was a real shot in the arm,
coming to Montserrat.
1171
01:12:23,343 --> 01:12:26,346
It was a real special event for us.
1172
01:12:26,471 --> 01:12:30,976
It still is, it's in our memories,
it's still our favorite album.
1173
01:12:40,527 --> 01:12:43,614
ROBINSON: For us, the Rolling Stones
coming to the studio was a big thing.
1174
01:12:43,739 --> 01:12:47,993
Because obviously, George
is more associated with the Beatles,
1175
01:12:48,118 --> 01:12:52,122
and we'd had Keith Richards in doing
the X-Pensive Winos and it was fabulous.
1176
01:12:52,247 --> 01:12:55,459
OLIVER:
I was talking to Keith Richards before,
1177
01:12:55,584 --> 01:12:57,669
when he came to do his solo.
1178
01:12:57,794 --> 01:12:59,671
He did a solo record.
1179
01:12:59,796 --> 01:13:00,923
I was talking to him
1180
01:13:01,048 --> 01:13:04,843
and I told him, "The Rolling Stones
is one of my favorite bands."
1181
01:13:04,968 --> 01:13:07,679
I asked him
if they were coming back together.
1182
01:13:07,804 --> 01:13:12,392
And he said to me, "I am the only man
who could put the band back together,
1183
01:13:12,518 --> 01:13:15,229
and I'm going to put it back together
and we'll come here and record."
1184
01:13:15,354 --> 01:13:17,731
-And they did come to Montserrat.
-Yeah, man.
1185
01:13:17,856 --> 01:13:21,401
Keith has always insisted
that Mick is the lead singer,
1186
01:13:21,527 --> 01:13:24,488
as he is in the Rolling Stones,
and he shouldn't do anything else.
1187
01:13:24,613 --> 01:13:26,031
They just weren't getting on.
1188
01:13:26,156 --> 01:13:27,616
(CHEERING)
1189
01:13:27,741 --> 01:13:29,826
REPORTER: We might as well start
by posing the question
1190
01:13:29,952 --> 01:13:31,954
of whether the release
of a Mick Jagger solo album
1191
01:13:32,079 --> 01:13:33,747
means the end of the Rolling Stones?
1192
01:13:33,872 --> 01:13:39,503
I'd done stuff with other people
and the odd thing here and there.
1193
01:13:39,628 --> 01:13:43,215
I'd obviously played with other bands
and jammed around,
1194
01:13:43,340 --> 01:13:45,259
but I thought it was a good moment
1195
01:13:45,384 --> 01:13:48,136
to break the pattern
of just doing a Stones album
1196
01:13:48,262 --> 01:13:52,349
and just do something of my own
for a change and step out a bit.
1197
01:13:52,474 --> 01:13:57,020
If Mick's albums had have been
blockbusters, so to speak,
1198
01:13:57,145 --> 01:13:59,731
whatever that means, uh...
1199
01:14:01,483 --> 01:14:05,654
it would be very unlikely
that I would be leaving tomorrow,
1200
01:14:05,779 --> 01:14:08,073
to start making a new Stones album.
1201
01:14:08,198 --> 01:14:10,826
(BLINDED BY THE SUN PLAYING)
1202
01:14:15,789 --> 01:14:17,082
KIMSEY: Going down to Montserrat,
1203
01:14:17,207 --> 01:14:19,209
I was quite fearful
of going down with the Stones,
1204
01:14:19,334 --> 01:14:24,256
because working on four or five albums
with them previously,
1205
01:14:24,381 --> 01:14:27,843
I knew
that they were very much city bound.
1206
01:14:27,968 --> 01:14:29,970
(STEEL DRUM MUSIC)
1207
01:14:32,389 --> 01:14:37,811
I think they were quite amazed
how normal everybody was, really.
1208
01:14:37,936 --> 01:14:41,607
It's like when a band like the Stones
suddenly appears on the island,
1209
01:14:41,732 --> 01:14:47,404
the expectation can be something so big,
it can freak you out.
1210
01:14:47,905 --> 01:14:51,533
MORGAN: Keith Richards, all the guys,
1211
01:14:51,658 --> 01:14:56,663
they drink a lot,
they smoke a lot, they eat a lot.
1212
01:14:56,788 --> 01:15:00,000
As I say,
they were a whole set of good guys.
1213
01:15:00,125 --> 01:15:02,503
(DRUM ROLL)
1214
01:15:02,628 --> 01:15:04,713
(LAUGHTER)
1215
01:15:04,838 --> 01:15:06,131
(GUITAR PLAYING)
1216
01:15:06,256 --> 01:15:09,218
Don't go mad on the drums though, OK?
1217
01:15:09,343 --> 01:15:11,512
KIMSEY: Looking at the body language
1218
01:15:11,637 --> 01:15:14,389
between, especially Mick and Keith
in Montserrat,
1219
01:15:14,515 --> 01:15:16,391
it was very different to what I'd seen,
1220
01:15:16,517 --> 01:15:21,897
and this was one of the most friendly
and warming atmospheres
1221
01:15:22,022 --> 01:15:23,690
I've seen between Mick and Keith.
1222
01:15:28,237 --> 01:15:30,322
♪ Our heartbeats ♪
1223
01:15:31,657 --> 01:15:34,326
RICHARDS: We both agreed
the best thing for the both of us
1224
01:15:34,451 --> 01:15:35,994
is to get together. Like, nobody else.
1225
01:15:36,119 --> 01:15:39,498
And it's very strange
that it's easy between the two of us.
1226
01:15:39,623 --> 01:15:42,751
It's when other people are around
that it can be a problem.
1227
01:15:42,876 --> 01:15:45,629
I think after the second day,
we had three or four songs already.
1228
01:15:45,754 --> 01:15:48,632
When you start off on a roll like that,
it helps, you know?
1229
01:15:49,591 --> 01:15:53,679
KIMSEY: Peter Mensch and Cliff Burnstein
came down,
1230
01:15:53,804 --> 01:15:56,515
and we were listening back
to Mixed Emotions.
1231
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,392
Peter Mensch was talking to Keith
1232
01:15:58,517 --> 01:16:01,812
suggesting that an arrangement change
should be made.
1233
01:16:01,937 --> 01:16:06,608
At which point,
Keith delved into his doctor's bag,
1234
01:16:06,733 --> 01:16:09,945
one of these beautiful
old leather doctor's bags,
1235
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:14,616
and bought out a knife
and pinned it between his legs,
1236
01:16:14,741 --> 01:16:17,953
and said to Peter
something in the terms of,
1237
01:16:18,078 --> 01:16:22,374
"Listen, sonny, nobody tells
the Rolling Stones how to write a song."
1238
01:16:22,499 --> 01:16:26,670
Which I thought was classic, wonderful.
And the arrangement never changed.
1239
01:16:26,795 --> 01:16:29,965
If I get up there,
we need another chord in there.
1240
01:16:30,090 --> 01:16:34,761
-I think we have to take another minor.
-Yeah, one more minor, F, F and G.
1241
01:16:34,887 --> 01:16:38,182
♪ With mixed emotions
1242
01:16:38,891 --> 01:16:42,811
♪ And you're not the only one ♪
1243
01:16:48,066 --> 01:16:49,151
I like it.
1244
01:16:49,276 --> 01:16:55,407
KIMSEY: Montserrat was a huge part
of rebooting the Stones,
1245
01:16:55,532 --> 01:16:59,036
helping them get back together,
particularly Mick and Keith.
1246
01:16:59,161 --> 01:17:01,663
It was pretty sad when we all left
1247
01:17:01,788 --> 01:17:05,876
because they hadn't been that close
for such a long time.
1248
01:17:06,001 --> 01:17:08,504
There was a sense of, um, you know,
1249
01:17:08,629 --> 01:17:11,507
when you finish school
for the first time and you all break up.
1250
01:17:11,632 --> 01:17:14,176
It was a bit like that,
breaking up for the summer holidays.
1251
01:17:14,301 --> 01:17:16,470
They weren't going to see each other
for a long time.
1252
01:17:16,595 --> 01:17:18,263
RICHARDS: One, two, three.
1253
01:17:18,388 --> 01:17:21,225
(MIXED EMOTIONS PLAYING)
1254
01:17:24,811 --> 01:17:27,064
♪ Button your lip, baby
1255
01:17:28,065 --> 01:17:29,733
♪ Button your coat
1256
01:17:31,318 --> 01:17:33,779
♪ Let's go out dancing
1257
01:17:35,072 --> 01:17:36,448
♪ Let's rock and roll
1258
01:17:38,534 --> 01:17:41,245
♪ You're not the only one
1259
01:17:41,995 --> 01:17:44,289
♪ With mixed emotions... ♪
1260
01:17:45,374 --> 01:17:46,625
(CHEERING)
1261
01:17:46,750 --> 01:17:48,210
JAGGER: Good morning, everybody.
1262
01:17:48,335 --> 01:17:51,755
We're very pleased to announce
that we are doing a big tour this year.
1263
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,050
And we've got a new album which comes
out and that's called Steel Wheels.
1264
01:17:55,175 --> 01:17:57,469
The first single's called
Mixed Emotions.
1265
01:17:57,594 --> 01:17:59,221
I know you're dying to ask questions,
1266
01:17:59,346 --> 01:18:01,890
like, "Will this be
the last tour you ever do?"
1267
01:18:02,474 --> 01:18:06,186
KIMSEY: Well, the Stones were
the last band to record in Montserrat.
1268
01:18:06,311 --> 01:18:10,065
There's been a few studios that they've
been the last people to record in,
1269
01:18:10,190 --> 01:18:13,527
but they're not the reason
that they've closed down.
1270
01:18:13,652 --> 01:18:16,071
It's always an act of God.
1271
01:18:16,196 --> 01:18:19,241
The thing about the Stones
is that they do this thing
1272
01:18:19,366 --> 01:18:21,910
where, in the old days,
they used to trash things.
1273
01:18:22,035 --> 01:18:26,957
They said, "This is what we usually do.
On the last day, we trash the place."
1274
01:18:27,082 --> 01:18:28,917
In a way, Hurricane Hugo did it for them
1275
01:18:29,042 --> 01:18:32,880
because as soon as they'd gone,
the hurricane hit.
1276
01:18:33,797 --> 01:18:37,467
GEORGE MARTIN: Hurricane Hugo wiped
us out, it wiped the island out almost.
1277
01:18:38,343 --> 01:18:40,762
There are only 12,000 people
living on the island,
1278
01:18:40,888 --> 01:18:44,975
and 11,000 of them lost their homes.
It was pretty devastating.
1279
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:47,019
But they picked themselves up
1280
01:18:47,144 --> 01:18:49,313
and it took a year,
or a bit more than a year
1281
01:18:49,438 --> 01:18:51,356
to get back anything like normal.
1282
01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:58,322
I wasn't able to get to Montserrat
after the hurricane
1283
01:18:58,447 --> 01:19:00,282
until after about six weeks.
1284
01:19:00,908 --> 01:19:03,493
So I got a flash lamp
and I went into the studio
1285
01:19:03,619 --> 01:19:05,787
to see how that had fared.
1286
01:19:05,913 --> 01:19:09,750
Went over to the piano
and opened the keyboard,
1287
01:19:09,875 --> 01:19:15,172
and all the ivory keys
were covered in green mold.
1288
01:19:15,297 --> 01:19:18,759
And I realized then we were done.
1289
01:19:24,765 --> 01:19:29,394
ATKIN: By the time the hurricane hit,
it was becoming a burden to them.
1290
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,232
The kind of budgets that people had
were long gone.
1291
01:19:33,357 --> 01:19:37,069
The accountants were really starting
to dig into the music business,
1292
01:19:37,194 --> 01:19:41,198
and it wasn't the era
that we built it for.
1293
01:19:45,452 --> 01:19:47,871
GILES MARTIN: I think technology
changed, things moved to digital.
1294
01:19:47,996 --> 01:19:50,249
And so, just the equipment levels...
1295
01:19:50,374 --> 01:19:52,543
Recording studios
started changing a lot.
1296
01:19:52,668 --> 01:19:54,336
They became more accessible,
1297
01:19:54,461 --> 01:19:56,755
album budgets started getting cut.
All of these things.
1298
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,469
KNOPFLER: Recording studios,
they all have a shelf-life,
1299
01:20:02,594 --> 01:20:09,351
because in the end, they are ruled
by forces that are bigger than us.
1300
01:20:09,476 --> 01:20:11,436
BECKLEY: I think the demise of the album
1301
01:20:11,562 --> 01:20:15,190
is directly related
to the shift from analog to digital.
1302
01:20:15,315 --> 01:20:19,278
A lot of the restrictions we dealt with
in recording analog
1303
01:20:19,403 --> 01:20:24,616
were lovely parameters
to keep the reins kinda tight.
1304
01:20:24,741 --> 01:20:27,244
And with digital came unlimited options,
1305
01:20:27,369 --> 01:20:30,789
and I think things took
a pretty serious shift at that change.
1306
01:20:32,541 --> 01:20:35,210
ROBINSON:
It's as if there is something there
1307
01:20:35,335 --> 01:20:38,213
that drew all that music,
drew all that creativity,
1308
01:20:38,338 --> 01:20:40,465
and then it was like,
"The power's gone now."
1309
01:20:40,591 --> 01:20:42,509
So, that's finished and move on.
1310
01:20:50,934 --> 01:20:52,936
WILLOCK:
We heard that our volcano was dormant,
1311
01:20:53,061 --> 01:20:56,607
but we never understood
until our volcano started erupting
1312
01:20:56,732 --> 01:20:59,443
that dormant
actually meant potentially active.
1313
01:21:00,444 --> 01:21:02,237
And so, I was in the studio.
1314
01:21:02,362 --> 01:21:07,159
One of the technicians came and said,
"Rose, the volcano is erupting."
1315
01:21:07,284 --> 01:21:09,036
(RUMBLING)
1316
01:21:33,685 --> 01:21:38,565
I sat before the microphone, I said,
"Everybody, I know that you are scared.
1317
01:21:38,690 --> 01:21:42,486
If you feel like praying, pray.
If you feel like crying, cry.
1318
01:21:42,611 --> 01:21:45,864
But I'll be here,
I'll be here with you all the way.
1319
01:21:45,989 --> 01:21:49,785
All the time, I'll be here, just keep
listening to the radio station.
1320
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:53,705
This is Rose. It's gonna be OK.
Just stay with me."
1321
01:21:58,293 --> 01:22:00,045
CASSELL:
The sky was just, like, frightening.
1322
01:22:00,170 --> 01:22:03,340
Especially,
I can remember the first ash plume
1323
01:22:03,465 --> 01:22:05,133
that went up about 60,000 feet.
1324
01:22:05,259 --> 01:22:07,761
The whole island,
you have bright sunshine like this,
1325
01:22:07,886 --> 01:22:10,722
and suddenly it's like night,
you can't see a thing.
1326
01:22:11,974 --> 01:22:13,475
WOMAN: No one's here.
1327
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:18,105
RILEY: For me, it was a very,
very bad experience, it was very scary.
1328
01:22:18,230 --> 01:22:21,024
Because one night,
they tell you to go back home.
1329
01:22:21,149 --> 01:22:23,777
Before the night is out, you gotta move
in the middle of the night again,
1330
01:22:23,902 --> 01:22:28,282
and the next day you don't know
what to do, where you're gonna sleep.
1331
01:22:28,407 --> 01:22:32,035
Because all your mind,
"Should I go home?
1332
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:33,495
Should I stay in the shelter?"
1333
01:22:33,620 --> 01:22:35,330
You don't know what to do.
You're confused.
1334
01:22:35,455 --> 01:22:37,291
(EXPLOSION)
1335
01:22:56,018 --> 01:22:59,813
CASSELL: And you know, we didn't
understand the magnitude of an eruption,
1336
01:22:59,938 --> 01:23:01,231
what it can do to an island.
1337
01:23:01,356 --> 01:23:05,694
It entirely changed the entire landscape
in Montserrat and the whole country.
1338
01:23:05,819 --> 01:23:08,822
And I was amazed what could happen.
1339
01:23:12,743 --> 01:23:17,080
SILCOTT: Many, almost all Montserratians
were displaced.
1340
01:23:17,831 --> 01:23:20,626
Whether they were
on that side or this side,
1341
01:23:20,751 --> 01:23:23,253
it was a rough time for everyone here.
1342
01:23:23,378 --> 01:23:26,757
And you just had to go somewhere else
and start over.
1343
01:23:27,341 --> 01:23:28,759
I hate the volcano.
1344
01:23:28,884 --> 01:23:32,721
I hated the fact
that it did so much to Montserrat.
1345
01:23:40,103 --> 01:23:42,439
STING:
I remember sailing past Montserrat
1346
01:23:42,564 --> 01:23:45,484
a few years after the volcano erupted,
1347
01:23:45,609 --> 01:23:48,111
and sailing past Plymouth
1348
01:23:48,237 --> 01:23:52,032
and just seeing
what looked like a nuclear winter.
1349
01:23:52,157 --> 01:23:54,284
It was covered in white dust.
1350
01:23:54,409 --> 01:23:59,206
This thriving, bustling Caribbean town
was a ghost town.
1351
01:23:59,331 --> 01:24:02,668
And it was frightening and upsetting,
1352
01:24:02,793 --> 01:24:05,254
because I had so many happy memories
of that place
1353
01:24:05,379 --> 01:24:09,007
with my bandmates,
my children, my family.
1354
01:24:09,132 --> 01:24:15,055
It makes me actually kind of tear up
when I think about it because...
1355
01:24:15,973 --> 01:24:20,394
it's a special place
that was taken away,
1356
01:24:20,519 --> 01:24:24,356
that will never be the same again.
1357
01:24:24,481 --> 01:24:29,736
You can never go back
and get that same energy again.
1358
01:24:29,862 --> 01:24:32,656
And for the people that lived there,
1359
01:24:32,781 --> 01:24:38,245
for them to lose everything
in just one fleeting instant,
1360
01:24:38,370 --> 01:24:39,872
it devastates me.
1361
01:25:07,149 --> 01:25:09,776
WILLOCK: Most of us cried,
because we lost our town.
1362
01:25:10,903 --> 01:25:14,406
We'd lost that important,
integral part of our history.
1363
01:25:15,741 --> 01:25:18,452
And I can close my eyes
and I'm still back there.
1364
01:25:24,249 --> 01:25:28,462
But since the volcanic activity,
Montserrat has grown in size,
1365
01:25:28,587 --> 01:25:32,966
and for me, I consider it to be
a pleasure to be around at this time
1366
01:25:33,091 --> 01:25:35,552
to see my island grow.
1367
01:25:35,677 --> 01:25:39,973
Because look at all the ash
and the new fertilizer it has brought.
1368
01:25:40,098 --> 01:25:44,603
And so, I consider the volcano
to be a perpetual part of who we are.
1369
01:25:52,694 --> 01:25:55,489
JUDY MARTIN: You can't really walk
around the estate now.
1370
01:25:56,740 --> 01:26:00,786
And so, I feel it was of a time.
1371
01:26:01,495 --> 01:26:05,541
And now it should slowly go back
to the jungle where it came from.
1372
01:26:12,005 --> 01:26:14,967
DORSFMAN: The '80s are like
a hundred years in the rear-view mirror.
1373
01:26:15,092 --> 01:26:20,222
It was a very special time,
and quality of studio, and vibe-wise,
1374
01:26:20,347 --> 01:26:24,768
the '80s was like the Renaissance,
the golden era of studio recording.
1375
01:26:29,106 --> 01:26:32,693
COPELAND: Those studios
are kind of an era that has gone.
1376
01:26:32,818 --> 01:26:36,738
Some types of music
are best recorded in a big room,
1377
01:26:36,864 --> 01:26:40,868
but you just get your drums
in that big room for a day,
1378
01:26:40,993 --> 01:26:44,788
and then you go back home and fiddle
with it on your own gear at home.
1379
01:26:44,913 --> 01:26:47,791
It's just not the way
artists make records anymore.
1380
01:26:51,086 --> 01:26:54,298
URE: There's footage of that place,
there are photographs of that place,
1381
01:26:54,423 --> 01:26:58,510
there are living memories of that place.
That's history.
1382
01:26:58,635 --> 01:27:02,139
Whether it's around today,
1383
01:27:02,264 --> 01:27:05,267
it's something
that we still carry with us,
1384
01:27:05,392 --> 01:27:07,853
the ones who were lucky enough
to experience it.
1385
01:27:07,978 --> 01:27:11,106
It's still vibrant and alive to us.
1386
01:27:14,401 --> 01:27:16,528
BECKLEY: As technology
has evolved to the point
1387
01:27:16,653 --> 01:27:20,532
where, unbelievable, and people make
whole albums on their phone.
1388
01:27:20,657 --> 01:27:25,746
But I think the actual ingredients,
when you conceive of something,
1389
01:27:25,871 --> 01:27:29,583
head, and your heart,
your hands to play an instrument,
1390
01:27:29,708 --> 01:27:32,377
you use some kind of a recording device
to put it down,
1391
01:27:32,503 --> 01:27:34,671
those elements haven't changed.
1392
01:27:45,557 --> 01:27:48,101
GEORGE MARTIN: It's like seeing
something you've created
1393
01:27:48,227 --> 01:27:51,021
falling into disrepair.
1394
01:27:51,647 --> 01:27:53,857
But it's like everything in life,
isn't it?
1395
01:27:53,982 --> 01:27:55,943
Everything has a period.
1396
01:27:56,068 --> 01:27:59,404
You know, you bring something
out of nothing,
1397
01:27:59,530 --> 01:28:03,408
and it always goes back
to nothing again, whatever.
1398
01:28:04,701 --> 01:28:06,912
GILES MARTIN: My father was a man
who got enormous pleasure
1399
01:28:07,037 --> 01:28:10,207
from other people's happiness.
He passed away years ago,
1400
01:28:10,332 --> 01:28:13,585
but he passed away as a very content man
with what he'd done with his life.
1401
01:28:13,710 --> 01:28:16,004
And Montserrat
was a huge part of that life,
1402
01:28:16,129 --> 01:28:19,758
and a huge part of a dream that
he fulfilled in doing something amazing.
1403
01:28:20,175 --> 01:28:25,722
I think that it had its natural end,
and that it was closure for him.
1404
01:28:26,932 --> 01:28:30,143
(TUNES GUITAR)
1405
01:28:31,562 --> 01:28:33,438
Shall we tune the guitar for you, man?
1406
01:28:33,564 --> 01:28:36,817
COOPER: George knew the space
between the notes
1407
01:28:36,942 --> 01:28:40,320
was as exciting as the note you played.
1408
01:28:40,445 --> 01:28:45,576
That rhythm that keeps us alive,
the heartbeat, it's in all of us.
1409
01:28:45,701 --> 01:28:47,953
It's the heartbeat
you hear in your mother's womb
1410
01:28:48,078 --> 01:28:49,538
that entices you out to dance.
1411
01:28:49,663 --> 01:28:53,333
And we need that. We need to touch base
with what we do as human beings.
1412
01:28:53,458 --> 01:28:57,379
And what better an example
than making music?
1413
01:28:57,504 --> 01:28:59,173
And it's about collaboration.
1414
01:28:59,298 --> 01:29:04,511
It's about the dream that George had
of that wonderful space in Montserrat
1415
01:29:04,636 --> 01:29:07,848
where you had the sun,
the sea, nature,
1416
01:29:08,849 --> 01:29:11,393
each other's company and music.
1417
01:29:11,518 --> 01:29:13,520
(WALK OF LIFE PLAYING)
1418
01:29:28,577 --> 01:29:29,703
♪ Whoo-hoo
1419
01:29:31,330 --> 01:29:32,331
♪ Whoo-hoo
1420
01:29:38,587 --> 01:29:41,673
♪ Here comes Johnny
singing oldies, goldies
1421
01:29:41,798 --> 01:29:44,218
♪ "Be-Bop-A-Lula", baby, "What'd I Say"
1422
01:29:44,343 --> 01:29:46,929
♪ Here comes Johnny
singing "I Gotta Woman"
1423
01:29:47,054 --> 01:29:49,890
♪ Down in the tunnel
trying to make it pay
1424
01:29:50,015 --> 01:29:52,809
♪ He got the action,
he got the motion
1425
01:29:52,935 --> 01:29:55,854
♪ Oh, yeah, the boy can play
1426
01:29:55,979 --> 01:29:58,190
♪ Dedication, devotion
1427
01:29:58,315 --> 01:30:00,734
♪ And turning all the night time
into the day
1428
01:30:00,859 --> 01:30:03,278
♪ He do the song about
the sweet-lovin' woman
1429
01:30:03,403 --> 01:30:05,197
♪ He do the song about the knife
1430
01:30:06,365 --> 01:30:10,619
♪ He do the walk, do the walk of life
1431
01:30:10,744 --> 01:30:12,788
♪ Yeah, he do the walk of life
1432
01:30:18,919 --> 01:30:20,254
♪ Whoo-hoo
1433
01:30:23,423 --> 01:30:26,134
♪ Here comes Johnny
gonna tell you the story
1434
01:30:26,260 --> 01:30:28,929
♪ Hand me down my walkin' shoes
1435
01:30:29,054 --> 01:30:31,682
♪ Here comes Johnny
with the power and the glory
1436
01:30:31,807 --> 01:30:34,685
♪ Backbeat the talkin' blues
1437
01:30:34,810 --> 01:30:37,646
♪ He got the action, he got the motion
1438
01:30:37,771 --> 01:30:40,148
♪ Oh, yeah, the boy can play
1439
01:30:40,274 --> 01:30:42,734
♪ Dedication, devotion
1440
01:30:42,860 --> 01:30:45,237
♪ Turning all the night time
into the day
1441
01:30:45,362 --> 01:30:47,781
♪ The song about the sweet-lovin' woman
1442
01:30:47,906 --> 01:30:50,450
♪ He do the song about the knife
1443
01:30:50,576 --> 01:30:54,580
♪ And he do the walk,
he do the walk of life
1444
01:30:55,330 --> 01:30:57,249
♪ Yeah, he do the walk of life
1445
01:31:11,346 --> 01:31:12,556
♪ Whoo-hoo-hoo
1446
01:31:19,021 --> 01:31:21,857
♪ Here comes Johnny
singing oldies, goldies
1447
01:31:21,982 --> 01:31:24,443
♪ "Be-Bop-A-Lula", baby, "What'd I Say"
1448
01:31:24,568 --> 01:31:27,112
♪ Here comes Johnny
singing "I Gotta Woman"
1449
01:31:27,237 --> 01:31:30,073
♪ Down in the tunnels
trying to make it pay
1450
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:32,868
♪ He got the action,
he got the motion
1451
01:31:32,993 --> 01:31:35,662
♪ Oh, yeah, the boy can play
1452
01:31:35,787 --> 01:31:38,248
♪ Dedication, devotion
1453
01:31:38,373 --> 01:31:40,792
♪ And turning all the night time
into the day
1454
01:31:40,918 --> 01:31:43,504
♪ And after all the violence
and double talk
1455
01:31:43,629 --> 01:31:46,131
♪ There's just a song in all
the trouble and the strife
1456
01:31:46,256 --> 01:31:50,636
♪ You do the walk,
yeah, you do the walk of life
1457
01:31:50,761 --> 01:31:52,721
♪ Hmm, they do the walk of life
1458
01:31:56,183 --> 01:31:57,226
♪ Whoo-hoo
1459
01:32:13,867 --> 01:32:15,077
♪ Whoo-hoo-hoo
1460
01:32:25,128 --> 01:32:26,547
♪ Whoo-hoo-hoo
1461
01:32:29,675 --> 01:32:30,676
♪ Whoo-hoo
1462
01:32:36,306 --> 01:32:38,016
♪ Whoo-hoo-hoo
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