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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:50,789 --> 00:00:51,964 - I - was invited to lecture 2 00:00:52,095 --> 00:00:59,276 in 1986 And I did it on cancer. 3 00:00:59,407 --> 00:01:04,542 And I showed the cases, showed the records. 4 00:01:04,673 --> 00:01:07,806 One of my best friends left the room 5 00:01:07,937 --> 00:01:10,853 and stood outside the door of the lecture room 6 00:01:10,983 --> 00:01:13,247 and said, don't go in there. 7 00:01:13,377 --> 00:01:14,204 This guy is crazy. 8 00:01:18,687 --> 00:01:24,171 At that time, the wall againstalternatives was so great, 9 00:01:24,301 --> 00:01:25,041 I never had a chance. 10 00:01:28,610 --> 00:01:31,134 But I kept on making patients better. 11 00:01:40,404 --> 00:01:44,408 Every major chronic disease is on the rise. 12 00:01:44,539 --> 00:01:47,150 I'll see you later. 13 00:01:47,281 --> 00:01:48,456 And now, I'm not 14 00:01:48,586 --> 00:01:52,547 satisfied in being ableto take what I've learned 15 00:01:52,677 --> 00:01:55,376 and what I've applied and keep it confined. 16 00:01:58,205 --> 00:02:01,599 Yes, I've been criticized. 17 00:02:01,730 --> 00:02:07,910 But after 45 years, I'm very proud knowing 18 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,260 that what we are doing works. 19 00:02:12,088 --> 00:02:13,437 Hey, how's it going? 20 00:02:13,568 --> 00:02:14,569 Good morning. 21 00:02:14,699 --> 00:02:16,788 Tilly's here for Dr. Goldstein. 22 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:17,789 Hey. 23 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:18,790 Hello. 24 00:02:18,921 --> 00:02:20,401 Let's go. 25 00:02:29,497 --> 00:02:31,020 Hi, how are you? 26 00:02:31,151 --> 00:02:32,369 Good morning. 27 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:34,328 Yeah, Beautiful question. 28 00:02:34,458 --> 00:02:35,677 You ready? 29 00:02:35,807 --> 00:02:38,332 Ooh! 30 00:02:38,462 --> 00:02:40,943 Yeah! 31 00:02:41,073 --> 00:02:43,293 Dr. Goldstein saidthat he did a brief ultrasound 32 00:02:43,424 --> 00:02:46,253 and found masses throughout her spleen. 33 00:02:46,383 --> 00:02:47,950 They've already tried 20 different drugs. 34 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,386 None of it's worked. 35 00:02:49,517 --> 00:02:53,173 So let's start using IV vitamin C therapy. 36 00:02:53,303 --> 00:02:55,958 With the cryosurgery,we actually freeze the tumor. 37 00:02:56,088 --> 00:02:59,266 It buys us time to work on the immune system. 38 00:02:59,396 --> 00:03:00,832 So we have a Magna Wave here. 39 00:03:00,963 --> 00:03:03,139 Dr. Jenna is gonna giveher a Magna Wave treatment. 40 00:03:09,537 --> 00:03:10,668 Her other vet was 41 00:03:10,799 --> 00:03:11,800 about to put her down today. 42 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:13,149 We can help. 43 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,019 And we're going to keep moving forward. 44 00:03:22,811 --> 00:03:24,247 You're going home. 45 00:03:24,378 --> 00:03:25,683 We're going to concentrate 46 00:03:25,814 --> 00:03:29,252 on keeping him as healthyand happy as we possibly can. 47 00:03:29,383 --> 00:03:31,123 That's the whole mentalitydifference about how 48 00:03:31,254 --> 00:03:32,908 we look at things differently. 49 00:03:33,038 --> 00:03:36,128 We've gone so far outof the box other veterinarians 50 00:03:36,259 --> 00:03:37,608 call us crazy. 51 00:03:37,739 --> 00:03:38,522 We don't want to remove his leg if it's 52 00:03:38,653 --> 00:03:39,262 something that we can save. 53 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:44,963 OK, are yougonna come down for the consult 54 00:03:45,094 --> 00:03:47,488 or do you want to do phone consult? 55 00:03:47,618 --> 00:03:50,273 Coming in to seeJenna tomorrow at 12:00 noon. 56 00:03:50,404 --> 00:03:51,840 We've got oneappointment available for Dr. 57 00:03:51,970 --> 00:03:53,407 Shane for today. 58 00:03:53,537 --> 00:03:55,844 Dr. Goldstein is probablygoing to be in surgery. 59 00:03:55,974 --> 00:03:59,978 We requested a copy of aCT scan for a mutual client 60 00:04:00,109 --> 00:04:01,241 a couple of times. 61 00:04:01,371 --> 00:04:02,633 And they're here for theirappointment right now. 62 00:04:02,764 --> 00:04:03,939 And we still don't have the surgery-- 63 00:04:04,069 --> 00:04:05,897 Katie is ready to go back. 64 00:04:06,028 --> 00:04:09,031 The other doctors gavethe dog five months to live. 65 00:04:09,161 --> 00:04:09,945 That was four and a half years ago. 66 00:04:32,707 --> 00:04:34,883 I'll just wait till she's awake. 67 00:04:35,013 --> 00:04:35,623 This really looks great. 68 00:04:41,977 --> 00:04:43,326 Cathy, can you give me an 18-gauge needle? 69 00:04:52,030 --> 00:04:52,770 Come onsies. 70 00:04:52,901 --> 00:04:53,989 Hi. 71 00:04:54,119 --> 00:04:56,600 You're a neat guy with a big head. 72 00:04:56,731 --> 00:04:58,123 The other vet scared me because he was 73 00:04:58,254 --> 00:04:59,386 like, well, it could be cancer. 74 00:04:59,516 --> 00:05:01,649 I might need to amputate the toe. 75 00:05:01,779 --> 00:05:03,303 Do you think that we need to do that on his-- 76 00:05:03,433 --> 00:05:04,391 No. 77 00:05:04,521 --> 00:05:07,002 My god, that's why I started getting 78 00:05:07,132 --> 00:05:08,482 really nervous that they-- 79 00:05:08,612 --> 00:05:13,051 I've set my life up notonly to be a veterinarian, 80 00:05:13,182 --> 00:05:17,752 but a veterinarian that dealswith hopeless, terminal cases 81 00:05:17,882 --> 00:05:18,492 from all over the world. 82 00:05:21,625 --> 00:05:25,107 Most of the animals that we see already 83 00:05:25,237 --> 00:05:27,501 had second, third,fourth, and fifth opinions 84 00:05:27,631 --> 00:05:30,982 before they came here. 85 00:05:31,113 --> 00:05:36,423 And now we are the very last hope. 86 00:05:36,553 --> 00:05:41,602 Each one of these spotsis a lung tumor, must be 100. 87 00:05:41,732 --> 00:05:43,517 I teach my doctors 88 00:05:43,647 --> 00:05:47,521 that you want to get to apoint where you're trying 89 00:05:47,651 --> 00:05:53,875 to support that patient's immunesystem so it could heal itself. 90 00:05:54,005 --> 00:05:55,572 This is going very well. 91 00:05:55,703 --> 00:05:57,269 Very well. 92 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,099 And what I'velearned over the last 45 years 93 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:05,060 is that we have to treat a disease 94 00:06:05,190 --> 00:06:09,456 by using conventional andalternative medicines together. 95 00:06:15,636 --> 00:06:18,900 Wafflesis here for Dr. Ruskin. 96 00:06:19,030 --> 00:06:22,033 Let's see, so itlooks to me like you adopted. 97 00:06:22,164 --> 00:06:25,297 And at that point we were 100% healthy, 98 00:06:25,428 --> 00:06:26,429 you didn't notice anything? 99 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,257 He was fine at that point. 100 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:29,476 Well, we would play outside. 101 00:06:29,606 --> 00:06:30,955 He jumped up like a little-- 102 00:06:31,086 --> 00:06:32,000 Yeah, a little jumpy bean. 103 00:06:32,130 --> 00:06:33,262 --jumping bean. 104 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:34,742 OK. 105 00:06:34,872 --> 00:06:38,223 And as time progressed, he started not playing. 106 00:06:38,354 --> 00:06:39,834 I tried different toys. 107 00:06:39,964 --> 00:06:42,706 He wasn't interested, didn't chew on sticks. 108 00:06:42,837 --> 00:06:44,534 So it was like one thing dropping off. 109 00:06:44,665 --> 00:06:46,014 You just keptseeing quality of life 110 00:06:46,144 --> 00:06:46,884 go down, down, down. 111 00:06:47,015 --> 00:06:48,408 Go down and down and down. 112 00:06:48,538 --> 00:06:50,540 I had been going to another doctor 113 00:06:50,671 --> 00:06:53,064 to get him in for his updated shots. 114 00:06:53,195 --> 00:06:54,414 And she said he has a fever. 115 00:06:54,544 --> 00:06:57,199 So she put him on Metronidazole. 116 00:06:57,329 --> 00:07:00,594 And then I took him to my vet. 117 00:07:00,724 --> 00:07:03,597 He had them run bloodwork and some more X-rays 118 00:07:03,727 --> 00:07:06,556 and said this really is out of my league. 119 00:07:06,687 --> 00:07:10,038 I think you should go seean internist at an emergency 120 00:07:10,168 --> 00:07:14,085 hospital whereupon she put himon Doxycycline for two weeks. 121 00:07:14,216 --> 00:07:16,740 And they said you should seehim pick up after five days. 122 00:07:16,871 --> 00:07:17,654 Well, it's 14. 123 00:07:17,785 --> 00:07:18,655 And this is-- 124 00:07:18,786 --> 00:07:19,613 This is still it. 125 00:07:19,743 --> 00:07:20,744 --still where we are. 126 00:07:20,875 --> 00:07:24,226 And I've been loading this dog up with food. 127 00:07:24,356 --> 00:07:25,706 I don't know where it's going. 128 00:07:25,836 --> 00:07:26,576 OK. 129 00:07:26,707 --> 00:07:28,273 You must be just overwhelmed. 130 00:07:28,404 --> 00:07:28,883 - I am. - I can't imagine. 131 00:07:29,013 --> 00:07:30,232 I am. 132 00:07:30,362 --> 00:07:32,234 Because I look at this, I mean, we see 133 00:07:32,364 --> 00:07:34,149 the worst of the worst here. 134 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:36,194 We get files this thick here. 135 00:07:36,325 --> 00:07:38,719 And even I'm overwhelmed by all the 136 00:07:38,849 --> 00:07:41,548 twisting and turning of this case. 137 00:07:41,678 --> 00:07:43,288 There seems to be things going on everywhere. 138 00:07:43,419 --> 00:07:45,073 You know, there's possiblejoint inflammation. 139 00:07:45,203 --> 00:07:46,901 There's possible liver inflammation. 140 00:07:47,031 --> 00:07:49,556 He was described ashaving a hunched position. 141 00:07:49,686 --> 00:07:52,384 Like, was he walking kind of with his back arched? 142 00:07:52,515 --> 00:07:53,342 He had a hunched-- 143 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:54,517 back arched. 144 00:07:54,648 --> 00:07:56,693 OK. 145 00:07:56,824 --> 00:07:58,869 Can we put him on the floorso I can see how he walks? 146 00:07:59,000 --> 00:07:59,740 Come on. 147 00:08:02,917 --> 00:08:03,657 Come on. 148 00:08:10,272 --> 00:08:12,970 Yeah, so he is kind of doing that arched 149 00:08:13,101 --> 00:08:14,102 walk still with his back. 150 00:08:14,232 --> 00:08:15,059 Hi, sweetie. 151 00:08:15,190 --> 00:08:15,930 Hi. 152 00:08:20,282 --> 00:08:24,852 See this, how he, when I back him up, 153 00:08:24,982 --> 00:08:26,767 see what's happening with his right hind leg? 154 00:08:26,897 --> 00:08:31,119 Yeah, he's notreally doing anything. 155 00:08:31,249 --> 00:08:33,991 The rabies vaccineis given in the right hind leg. 156 00:08:34,122 --> 00:08:36,298 So the patients that I've seen that have 157 00:08:36,428 --> 00:08:38,822 a rabies vaccine reaction, theright hind leg declines first. 158 00:08:38,953 --> 00:08:40,607 Right. 159 00:08:40,737 --> 00:08:42,609 And then it gets, you know,worse-- then it progresses up, 160 00:08:42,739 --> 00:08:43,740 you know, from there. 161 00:08:43,871 --> 00:08:45,176 OK. 162 00:08:45,307 --> 00:08:46,830 So the vaccines,I believe they have a place 163 00:08:46,961 --> 00:08:48,353 as far as preventing disease. 164 00:08:48,484 --> 00:08:51,792 But they shouldn't be given toa patient who is not healthy, 165 00:08:51,922 --> 00:08:54,185 otherwise they have more thanthe immune system can handle. 166 00:08:54,316 --> 00:08:56,405 And it just makes everything snowball. 167 00:08:56,536 --> 00:09:00,104 And vaccine reactions do get worse with time. 168 00:09:00,235 --> 00:09:02,106 And, you know, unfortunatelyconventional medicine 169 00:09:02,237 --> 00:09:04,805 doesn't really have, youknow, a treatment for this. 170 00:09:04,935 --> 00:09:06,067 But we do. 171 00:09:06,197 --> 00:09:07,242 You do? 172 00:09:07,372 --> 00:09:08,983 We do, yeah. 173 00:09:09,113 --> 00:09:11,638 Hallelujah, yes. 174 00:09:11,768 --> 00:09:14,249 Yes, so, you know, the case, you know, 175 00:09:14,379 --> 00:09:16,251 I can't promise you that he'sgoing to have the same response 176 00:09:16,381 --> 00:09:17,644 as other cases-- 177 00:09:17,774 --> 00:09:18,862 Aw. 178 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:22,170 It's OK. 179 00:09:25,869 --> 00:09:28,916 So you're not sure that he can be saved? 180 00:09:29,046 --> 00:09:30,744 I'm not sure that he'll have the same response 181 00:09:30,874 --> 00:09:32,746 as other cases I've had. 182 00:09:32,876 --> 00:09:35,487 But here what we use for this is something 183 00:09:35,618 --> 00:09:37,881 called intravenous vitamin C therapy. 184 00:09:38,012 --> 00:09:40,492 What it does is it helps clear the body. 185 00:09:40,623 --> 00:09:42,582 And it helps improve the immune function 186 00:09:42,712 --> 00:09:44,801 and brings that inflammation down so 187 00:09:44,932 --> 00:09:48,413 that his body can start tofunction properly again. 188 00:09:48,544 --> 00:09:51,591 Then, you know, hopefully, we'llsee his appetite improve and be 189 00:09:51,721 --> 00:09:53,418 able to thrive from there. 190 00:09:53,549 --> 00:09:55,159 But we need to catch it now. 191 00:09:55,290 --> 00:09:56,596 You know, because of what I'm seeing, 192 00:09:56,726 --> 00:10:00,382 it crawled up his spine, he got the arched spine. 193 00:10:00,512 --> 00:10:02,993 And it's heading up to here. 194 00:10:03,124 --> 00:10:04,604 We don't want it to get to here. 195 00:10:04,734 --> 00:10:07,607 Because when it starts to get tohere, we start to see seizures. 196 00:10:07,737 --> 00:10:09,347 We start to see more serious things. 197 00:10:09,478 --> 00:10:11,088 OK. 198 00:10:11,219 --> 00:10:12,220 But, you know,we'll have to take it day by day 199 00:10:12,350 --> 00:10:15,658 and see how he does. 200 00:10:15,789 --> 00:10:17,181 I hate to ask what the cost is. 201 00:10:17,312 --> 00:10:19,619 I've spent so much money on this dog. 202 00:10:19,749 --> 00:10:21,185 Yeah, I see that. 203 00:10:21,316 --> 00:10:24,406 Typically, for a dog his size,it's 1,200 for the three days 204 00:10:24,536 --> 00:10:25,276 that they're on therapy. 205 00:10:25,407 --> 00:10:26,538 That's fine. 206 00:10:26,669 --> 00:10:27,409 That's fine. 207 00:10:27,539 --> 00:10:28,540 I don't care. 208 00:10:28,671 --> 00:10:29,977 So-- 209 00:10:30,107 --> 00:10:33,589 I'm working right now to pay for this dog. 210 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,244 The only thing I need to do is call my husband. 211 00:10:36,374 --> 00:10:36,766 Of course. 212 00:10:42,467 --> 00:10:44,861 OK, so she'd like totake him and they give him, 213 00:10:44,992 --> 00:10:49,474 it's called a vitamin C therapy intravenously. 214 00:10:49,605 --> 00:10:53,217 And I would like to do it. 215 00:10:53,348 --> 00:10:55,698 It's going to cost $1,200,but I would like to do it. 216 00:10:59,180 --> 00:10:59,920 Are you still there? 217 00:11:04,272 --> 00:11:05,534 I do. 218 00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:07,101 And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. 219 00:11:07,231 --> 00:11:11,627 But I really want to feelwhen I go home that I've 220 00:11:11,758 --> 00:11:13,716 given him my best shot. 221 00:11:13,847 --> 00:11:14,978 So, yeah, we're gonna 222 00:11:15,109 --> 00:11:19,983 do a chest X-ray, bloodwork, a GHP/CBC, and a T4, 223 00:11:20,114 --> 00:11:22,246 actually, as well. 224 00:11:22,377 --> 00:11:25,336 And then he's staying over night. 225 00:11:25,467 --> 00:11:27,208 Ready? 226 00:11:30,864 --> 00:11:32,169 JACQUELINE Vitamin C 227 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,563 works fantastic for somethinglike a vaccine reaction. 228 00:11:38,132 --> 00:11:41,875 Some people aren't readyfor something that bizarre 229 00:11:42,005 --> 00:11:44,791 as a treatment option. 230 00:11:44,921 --> 00:11:46,270 It's difficult, even for me, I've been 231 00:11:46,401 --> 00:11:49,012 doing this for 10 years now. 232 00:11:49,143 --> 00:11:55,410 And even for me, it's difficultto wrap my mind around it. 233 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:57,499 And then all I have to do istreat a patient and I'm like, 234 00:11:57,629 --> 00:11:59,675 OK, you know, there's no way you can have placebo 235 00:11:59,806 --> 00:12:03,374 effect on a dog or a cat. 236 00:12:03,505 --> 00:12:06,290 But it's gonna be IVCtonight, tomorrow, and Friday. 237 00:12:06,421 --> 00:12:07,770 All right. 238 00:12:07,901 --> 00:12:08,945 Unless we see amiracle in the next four hours. 239 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:13,776 Andsometimes it doesn't work. 240 00:12:13,907 --> 00:12:17,301 But usually we get at leastbetter energy and eating, even 241 00:12:17,432 --> 00:12:20,174 if we don't solve the disease. 242 00:12:20,304 --> 00:12:21,958 And you know, always that'sthe most important thing is 243 00:12:22,089 --> 00:12:24,047 just improve quality of life. 244 00:12:24,178 --> 00:12:26,876 But a lot of times, we get morethan just better quality of 245 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:29,618 life, we really reverse things. 246 00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:30,837 All these new cases-- 247 00:12:30,967 --> 00:12:31,968 JACQUELINE Dr. Marty 248 00:12:32,099 --> 00:12:33,404 actually is the one that pioneered 249 00:12:33,535 --> 00:12:36,843 this in dogs and cats. 250 00:12:36,973 --> 00:12:40,324 He actually took the protocolthat was being used in humans 251 00:12:40,455 --> 00:12:43,850 and adapted it to pets. 252 00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:45,677 Back in the day when he started using it, 253 00:12:45,808 --> 00:12:48,724 there wasn't such a thing asinjectable, sterile vitamin C 254 00:12:48,855 --> 00:12:50,204 therapy. 255 00:12:50,334 --> 00:12:52,815 So what they used to do, I mean, this is crazy, 256 00:12:52,946 --> 00:12:55,513 but what they used to do isactually open the IV bag, pour 257 00:12:55,644 --> 00:12:57,820 vitamin C powder into thebag, and kind of shake 258 00:12:57,951 --> 00:12:59,561 it up to dissolve the powder. 259 00:12:59,691 --> 00:13:02,172 And he saw incredible response. 260 00:13:02,303 --> 00:13:03,304 How is he? 261 00:13:03,434 --> 00:13:03,957 It's hard to say. 262 00:13:11,616 --> 00:13:14,054 1973, right after I graduated 263 00:13:14,184 --> 00:13:16,012 Cornell vet school, I was working 264 00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:18,928 in conventional veterinary medicine. 265 00:13:19,059 --> 00:13:21,713 I became a workaholic. 266 00:13:21,844 --> 00:13:24,325 And I was living on junk food. 267 00:13:24,455 --> 00:13:27,632 I always had heart burnand I always had headaches. 268 00:13:27,763 --> 00:13:31,245 And I became a very sickly person. 269 00:13:31,375 --> 00:13:36,337 I was diagnosed withchronic bursitis, arthritis. 270 00:13:36,467 --> 00:13:40,994 It seemed that if someone had a cold, I caught it. 271 00:13:41,124 --> 00:13:44,736 I'd go to my doctor and I said, what's going on? 272 00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:49,219 And he said, well, you are getting older. 273 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:52,396 I was only 26 years old. 274 00:13:52,527 --> 00:13:54,398 And then he recommended antibiotics 275 00:13:54,529 --> 00:13:57,488 and long acting steroids. 276 00:13:57,619 --> 00:14:01,188 And when I said to him, isthere any other alternative? 277 00:14:01,318 --> 00:14:04,060 No answer. 278 00:14:04,191 --> 00:14:07,498 And that got me searching for answers 279 00:14:07,629 --> 00:14:09,457 that conventional medicine didn't offer. 280 00:14:15,985 --> 00:14:21,556 At that time, there was no suchthing as holistic medicine. 281 00:14:21,686 --> 00:14:23,427 I had to travel like 35 miles just 282 00:14:23,558 --> 00:14:24,951 to find a health food store. 283 00:14:25,081 --> 00:14:27,344 A little pumpkin seed oil. 284 00:14:27,475 --> 00:14:28,824 Yum! 285 00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:30,260 And I did a lot of research 286 00:14:30,391 --> 00:14:35,570 on the biological effectsof good food, acupuncture, 287 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:38,007 homeopathy. 288 00:14:38,138 --> 00:14:40,749 Finally, I said, you know, I got to try this. 289 00:14:43,970 --> 00:14:47,930 Over time, everything went away. 290 00:14:48,061 --> 00:14:48,975 And that was the wake up call. 291 00:14:52,326 --> 00:14:57,853 What I learned is that myimmune system was dysfunctional. 292 00:14:57,984 --> 00:15:02,466 It's either suppressedor not working correctly. 293 00:15:02,597 --> 00:15:04,904 In medical school, we learned how 294 00:15:05,034 --> 00:15:07,732 to diagnose and treat disease. 295 00:15:07,863 --> 00:15:12,259 But we should also betreating the immune system. 296 00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:13,956 And it hit me. 297 00:15:14,087 --> 00:15:17,438 If this works for us, whywon't it work for an animal? 298 00:15:22,051 --> 00:15:22,878 Come on, buddy. 299 00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:30,451 Welcome to Smith Ridge. 300 00:15:30,581 --> 00:15:31,843 All right, I'm just going to get 301 00:15:31,974 --> 00:15:32,888 a little bit of information. 302 00:15:33,019 --> 00:15:34,498 I know we have the medical records. 303 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:36,979 All right,the doctor will be right in. 304 00:15:41,114 --> 00:15:42,767 When he vomits, is it once a day? 305 00:15:42,898 --> 00:15:44,682 Sometimes 12 times at a time. 306 00:15:44,813 --> 00:15:45,857 Really? 307 00:15:45,988 --> 00:15:47,033 Yeah, it's a lot. 308 00:15:47,163 --> 00:15:48,556 Let's start with injectable homeopathics. 309 00:15:48,686 --> 00:15:50,036 OK. 310 00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:51,907 The last vet that I went to told me 311 00:15:52,038 --> 00:15:53,126 that I should start thinking about putting 312 00:15:53,256 --> 00:15:54,562 him on the medication. 313 00:15:54,692 --> 00:15:56,956 Then missing a dose, I hearit's fatal, I've been told. 314 00:15:57,086 --> 00:15:59,741 No, I find oftentimes, youknow, we don't have to go 315 00:15:59,871 --> 00:16:00,916 down the medication route. 316 00:16:01,047 --> 00:16:02,309 Great. 317 00:16:02,439 --> 00:16:05,616 What we want to do is feedthem the closest to what 318 00:16:05,747 --> 00:16:06,835 they would eat naturally. 319 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:08,750 So for us that's raw diets-- 320 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,231 80% meat and 20% ground-up fiber. 321 00:16:11,361 --> 00:16:14,364 If I said this to the vetthat we used in the past, 322 00:16:14,495 --> 00:16:16,845 what would they say aboutwhat you're telling me? 323 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:18,586 It depends. 324 00:16:18,716 --> 00:16:21,589 Because in vet school theydon't educate us on nutrition. 325 00:16:21,719 --> 00:16:23,112 He's a puppy. 326 00:16:23,243 --> 00:16:25,158 And we have to be carefulwith how much food-- 327 00:16:25,288 --> 00:16:28,248 In the US, there's only about 5% 328 00:16:28,378 --> 00:16:31,773 of practices that offer integrative care. 329 00:16:31,903 --> 00:16:33,688 Either the people who are studying sort 330 00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:35,168 of the holistic or alternative say, 331 00:16:35,298 --> 00:16:37,997 no, I don't want to do anything conventional. 332 00:16:38,127 --> 00:16:40,042 Or you have theconventional vet who says, 333 00:16:40,173 --> 00:16:41,913 no, absolutely no alternatives. 334 00:16:42,044 --> 00:16:43,132 It's OK to leave water down. 335 00:16:43,263 --> 00:16:44,655 So we get consults 336 00:16:44,786 --> 00:16:46,527 from all over the country. 337 00:16:46,657 --> 00:16:51,488 Well, my local vet is unwillingto do this so I'm calling you. 338 00:16:51,619 --> 00:16:53,447 So I'm first going to putin points that kind of help 339 00:16:53,577 --> 00:16:54,622 calm her. 340 00:16:54,752 --> 00:16:55,710 Because she's a little bit of a cranky girl. 341 00:16:57,059 --> 00:16:59,366 And I happen to love cranky cats. 342 00:16:59,496 --> 00:17:01,846 Most people come in andtell me that their friends 343 00:17:01,977 --> 00:17:04,327 are saying, you're crazy. 344 00:17:04,458 --> 00:17:06,895 You shouldn't be doing acupuncture on your pet. 345 00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:08,592 It's a bunch of crap. 346 00:17:08,723 --> 00:17:11,639 Until you sort of see it for yourself, 347 00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:13,815 you don't believe that it's possible. 348 00:17:13,945 --> 00:17:16,339 She's had a great response to it. 349 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:18,559 I know you weregiven a very bleak prognosis. 350 00:17:18,689 --> 00:17:19,777 Yeah. 351 00:17:19,908 --> 00:17:23,259 Let's take a listen to you. 352 00:17:23,390 --> 00:17:26,088 Well, a consult is an hour. 353 00:17:26,219 --> 00:17:29,309 We're reviewing hundredsof pages of medical records 354 00:17:29,439 --> 00:17:32,921 sometimes for that particular appointment. 355 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,879 I'm going to send you homewith supplements that have 356 00:17:35,010 --> 00:17:37,012 some anti-inflammatory benefit. 357 00:17:37,143 --> 00:17:38,796 It could take a little bit of time. 358 00:17:38,927 --> 00:17:41,364 But we're definitely goingto be able to help her. 359 00:17:41,495 --> 00:17:44,541 Well, she means the world to us. 360 00:17:44,672 --> 00:17:48,415 It is very, very rarethat we cannot offer some hope. 361 00:17:48,545 --> 00:17:52,506 And that doesn't necessarilytranslate into a cure, 362 00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:57,206 but it translates into somethingthat is fair to the animal 363 00:17:57,337 --> 00:18:00,470 and not do anything that is going 364 00:18:00,601 --> 00:18:02,472 to make them miserable while we're 365 00:18:02,603 --> 00:18:04,257 trying to extend their life. 366 00:18:04,387 --> 00:18:05,475 Thank you. Thanks. 367 00:18:05,606 --> 00:18:06,389 OK. 368 00:18:12,134 --> 00:18:14,658 I'm hoping he'll like my home-cooked stew. 369 00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:16,138 We'll see. 370 00:18:16,269 --> 00:18:17,008 Hey, honey. 371 00:18:17,139 --> 00:18:18,358 Am I bothering you again? 372 00:18:18,488 --> 00:18:19,924 You want to try something? 373 00:18:21,709 --> 00:18:23,363 Precious. 374 00:18:23,493 --> 00:18:24,712 What do you think? 375 00:18:24,842 --> 00:18:26,627 You wanna try that? 376 00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:27,497 Good boy. 377 00:18:32,415 --> 00:18:35,897 Good boy, honey. 378 00:18:36,027 --> 00:18:37,290 All right, I guess I got to get him more meat. 379 00:18:45,733 --> 00:18:47,213 Much better. 380 00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:51,565 Good boy. 381 00:18:55,656 --> 00:18:59,355 I like that I can't keep him still today. 382 00:19:02,010 --> 00:19:02,750 Where you going? 383 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,014 Come here. 384 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:09,235 So I'm seeing an improvement in the way 385 00:19:09,365 --> 00:19:11,193 he's using his right hind leg. 386 00:19:11,324 --> 00:19:12,499 So it's much stronger. 387 00:19:12,629 --> 00:19:15,763 Number one, he's puttingmore weight onto that side. 388 00:19:15,893 --> 00:19:18,331 And you'll notice he moves it faster than he 389 00:19:18,461 --> 00:19:22,813 was the first day, much faster. 390 00:19:22,944 --> 00:19:25,773 And he's also standing taller. 391 00:19:25,903 --> 00:19:30,995 So we've come actually a longway in the past couple days. 392 00:19:31,126 --> 00:19:32,432 His color's really good today. 393 00:19:32,562 --> 00:19:35,783 He's bright-eyed, eating, walking around. 394 00:19:35,913 --> 00:19:37,959 And he's wagging his tail. 395 00:19:38,089 --> 00:19:41,092 That's, you know, the beginningsof quality of life coming back. 396 00:19:41,223 --> 00:19:43,486 Hey. 397 00:19:43,617 --> 00:19:45,009 Hey, look at you! 398 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:49,405 I haven't seen you wag your tail in so long. 399 00:19:49,536 --> 00:19:52,539 Look at that nice little wag I got out of you. 400 00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:53,931 What's my boy doing? 401 00:19:57,587 --> 00:19:58,371 You're acting like a dog. 402 00:20:10,034 --> 00:20:10,948 Here he comes right now. 403 00:20:14,517 --> 00:20:15,692 How's he doing? 404 00:20:15,823 --> 00:20:16,954 Walking around? 405 00:20:17,085 --> 00:20:19,348 He pulled me on the leashall the way down there. 406 00:20:19,479 --> 00:20:21,742 He pulled me all the way up there. 407 00:20:21,872 --> 00:20:24,571 And then a nurse had to comeout and say, look, you know, 408 00:20:24,701 --> 00:20:28,009 you're letting him do too much. 409 00:20:28,139 --> 00:20:29,358 We're going to get you better. 410 00:20:29,489 --> 00:20:31,404 Don't you worry. 411 00:20:31,534 --> 00:20:32,579 I'll do all the worrying for you. 412 00:20:37,932 --> 00:20:38,889 And there goes my life. 413 00:20:41,675 --> 00:20:42,719 Please give me a call back. 414 00:20:46,897 --> 00:20:48,464 Mulligan ishere for Dr. Goldstein. 415 00:20:54,818 --> 00:20:56,472 We got him as a puppy. 416 00:20:56,603 --> 00:20:57,560 And we didn't know anything was wrong 417 00:20:57,691 --> 00:21:00,520 until he just kept drinking water as a baby 418 00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:03,174 and just peed constantly. 419 00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:06,482 We went to a veterinarian clinic. 420 00:21:06,613 --> 00:21:09,877 It turned out he had compromised kidneys. 421 00:21:10,007 --> 00:21:15,404 And he was born with only 15%to 25% of healthy kidney tissue. 422 00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:17,798 Did they have the word renal dysplasia? 423 00:21:17,928 --> 00:21:19,365 Yes, that's it.- It's renal dysplasia? 424 00:21:19,495 --> 00:21:21,192 - Yeah. - Damn. 425 00:21:21,323 --> 00:21:23,847 And when we askedhow long Mulligan might last, 426 00:21:23,978 --> 00:21:27,068 they said could be a week,could be a couple of months. 427 00:21:27,198 --> 00:21:29,070 Really, it was a death sentence. 428 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,985 So basically, he has a genetic 429 00:21:31,115 --> 00:21:34,902 or congenital predispositionfor his kidneys to fail. 430 00:21:35,032 --> 00:21:37,383 The kidney is responsiblefor getting rid of poisons 431 00:21:37,513 --> 00:21:38,558 from my body. 432 00:21:38,688 --> 00:21:40,777 So this is like a veritable time bomb. 433 00:21:40,908 --> 00:21:44,085 Because if he's functioningon 20% of the kidney 434 00:21:44,215 --> 00:21:45,782 and he suddenly goes down to 18%, 435 00:21:45,913 --> 00:21:47,349 he could start going into renal failure. 436 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,481 yeah, it's all bad. 437 00:21:48,611 --> 00:21:51,005 Now, genetic predispositions 438 00:21:51,135 --> 00:21:53,355 cannot be changed. 439 00:21:53,486 --> 00:21:57,141 However, their ability to manifest as a disease 440 00:21:57,272 --> 00:21:59,318 can be altered. 441 00:21:59,448 --> 00:22:04,671 So if we work on hishealth and not the disease, 442 00:22:04,801 --> 00:22:07,064 we can help the body keep it in check. 443 00:22:07,195 --> 00:22:08,501 Right, OK. 444 00:22:08,631 --> 00:22:10,372 It's not more complicated than that. 445 00:22:10,503 --> 00:22:11,808 What are you feeding him right now? 446 00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:16,247 I'm told that hereally has to eat wet food. 447 00:22:16,378 --> 00:22:19,338 And he hates wet food, despises it. 448 00:22:19,468 --> 00:22:21,296 So I make stews and things. 449 00:22:21,427 --> 00:22:23,124 I like the fact that you're cooking. 450 00:22:23,254 --> 00:22:25,082 We're going to supplement the cooking 451 00:22:25,213 --> 00:22:27,476 with supplements and remedies. 452 00:22:27,607 --> 00:22:29,913 I'm going to give two injections today. 453 00:22:30,044 --> 00:22:34,048 And then we'll just do a routineblood test in a week or two. 454 00:22:34,178 --> 00:22:35,005 OK. 455 00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:36,877 If the kidney values are dropping 456 00:22:37,007 --> 00:22:38,444 or at least staying the same-- 457 00:22:38,574 --> 00:22:39,880 No, that'd be great. 458 00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:40,750 That's it. 459 00:22:40,881 --> 00:22:41,621 All right. 460 00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:42,578 I'm committed. 461 00:22:42,709 --> 00:22:44,885 Mulligan, we got work to do. 462 00:22:56,766 --> 00:22:59,378 We alwaystake blood on every patient, 463 00:22:59,508 --> 00:23:02,119 even if they're healthy,and put them on supplements 464 00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:05,340 based on deficiencies. 465 00:23:05,471 --> 00:23:09,692 And that's because nutritionis often the underlying problem 466 00:23:09,823 --> 00:23:13,740 in almost every case we see. 467 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:15,655 Take a look at the main ingredients 468 00:23:15,785 --> 00:23:18,397 of the most popular pet foods, and what's 469 00:23:18,527 --> 00:23:21,051 the first thing you see? 470 00:23:21,182 --> 00:23:26,927 Corn-- not the bestingredient for a carnivore. 471 00:23:27,057 --> 00:23:28,798 And if you see the first ingredients is meat, 472 00:23:28,929 --> 00:23:31,845 you think it's the most prominent ingredient. 473 00:23:31,975 --> 00:23:36,545 But if you add up millet,brown rice, oatmeal, 474 00:23:36,676 --> 00:23:40,157 you'll see that 70%, 75% of the food 475 00:23:40,288 --> 00:23:42,725 is actually less expensive grain. 476 00:23:42,856 --> 00:23:44,335 I'mglad they made your Gaines 477 00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:46,468 Burgers with more real meat. 478 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:48,775 Plus, in the '70s, 479 00:23:48,905 --> 00:23:53,257 we had the entire age of the semi-moist foods. 480 00:23:53,388 --> 00:23:55,390 You'll beglad we made them taste better. 481 00:23:55,521 --> 00:23:57,436 You take itout of the cellophane wrapper, 482 00:23:57,566 --> 00:23:59,612 you throw it in the bowl,you go over five days later 483 00:23:59,742 --> 00:24:01,527 and it's still moist? 484 00:24:01,657 --> 00:24:05,008 I was like, what? 485 00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:11,232 They had four or five chemicals,dyes, flavor enhancers. 486 00:24:11,362 --> 00:24:14,235 And guess what wasn't in there? 487 00:24:14,365 --> 00:24:18,631 It was devoid of food. 488 00:24:18,761 --> 00:24:22,025 And this is one of the reasons a dog as 489 00:24:22,156 --> 00:24:27,509 young as Mulligan is bornwith malfunctioning kidneys. 490 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,730 So a supplement in the highest form 491 00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:34,211 should be a concentrated food to make up 492 00:24:34,342 --> 00:24:36,692 for the deficiencies in the food chain 493 00:24:36,823 --> 00:24:40,130 that we passed on to our pets. 494 00:24:40,261 --> 00:24:45,092 However, even thoughthere's scientific backing, 495 00:24:45,222 --> 00:24:49,183 supplements are not part of theeveryday veterinary protocol. 496 00:24:49,313 --> 00:24:51,707 But that's something we've beentrying to change for decades. 497 00:25:09,333 --> 00:25:11,379 Whisky, a 120-pound rottweilers, 498 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,294 is the picture of health today. 499 00:25:13,424 --> 00:25:15,165 But six years ago, he was stricken 500 00:25:15,296 --> 00:25:18,647 with a bowel disease that'susually fatal for his breed. 501 00:25:18,778 --> 00:25:20,388 As far as I wasconcerned, the dog was dead. 502 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:21,737 These are pictures of him 503 00:25:21,868 --> 00:25:24,523 then after two months at an animal hospital. 504 00:25:24,653 --> 00:25:27,613 He had wasted away to less than 60 pounds. 505 00:25:27,743 --> 00:25:29,615 Vets gave Whiskey just days to live. 506 00:25:29,745 --> 00:25:31,225 But his owner went knocking at the office 507 00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:33,270 of Dr. Martin Goldstein. 508 00:25:33,401 --> 00:25:36,360 Marty took one look at himand said I think I can save him. 509 00:25:36,491 --> 00:25:38,624 And I wouldn't believe it for one moment. 510 00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:42,062 We figure every animal hasa chance or deserves a chance. 511 00:25:42,192 --> 00:25:43,629 Wheretraditional veterinary medicine 512 00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:46,849 had failed, holistic medicine succeeded. 513 00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:49,069 Using homeopathicremedies and acupuncture, 514 00:25:49,199 --> 00:25:53,203 Dr. Goldstein had Whiskey on theroad to recovery within a week. 515 00:25:53,334 --> 00:25:55,162 To this day, I think it's a miracle. 516 00:25:55,292 --> 00:25:56,598 No miracle, says Dr. 517 00:25:56,729 --> 00:25:58,731 Goldstein, just nature at work. 518 00:25:58,861 --> 00:26:00,776 Trained in traditional medicine with a degree 519 00:26:00,907 --> 00:26:02,473 from Cornell University's Vet School, 520 00:26:02,604 --> 00:26:05,085 he's become convinced alternative medicine 521 00:26:05,215 --> 00:26:06,826 is the way to go. 522 00:26:06,956 --> 00:26:09,089 And while many traditionalvets recognize the benefits 523 00:26:09,219 --> 00:26:11,091 of what Dr. Goldstein practices, some 524 00:26:11,221 --> 00:26:13,354 do question what he preaches. 525 00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:54,090 Hey, babe. 526 00:26:54,221 --> 00:26:54,961 What? 527 00:26:55,091 --> 00:26:56,876 Come here. 528 00:26:57,006 --> 00:26:59,879 There's a guy that'swriting a blog about you. 529 00:27:01,184 --> 00:27:02,708 Whoa, Joey, wait. 530 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:05,536 He says, "being learned and experienced 531 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:08,235 in the use of unproven and quack therapies 532 00:27:08,365 --> 00:27:12,718 makes one an expert only ina narrow and fundamentally 533 00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:14,415 misleading sense. 534 00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:19,072 An expert on homeopathy islike an expert on astrology 535 00:27:19,202 --> 00:27:21,117 or a long dead religion." 536 00:27:21,248 --> 00:27:23,032 He's already madethe decision that it's bad. 537 00:27:23,163 --> 00:27:23,903 I know. 538 00:27:24,033 --> 00:27:24,773 Respond to him. 539 00:27:24,904 --> 00:27:25,644 I know. 540 00:27:25,774 --> 00:27:26,601 Well, it's a blog, I can't. 541 00:27:26,732 --> 00:27:28,124 It's a blog. 542 00:27:28,255 --> 00:27:29,473 Is he a vet? 543 00:27:29,604 --> 00:27:31,127 I think so. 544 00:27:31,258 --> 00:27:33,652 We should contact him andinvite him to Smith Ridge. 545 00:27:33,782 --> 00:27:34,914 There's this other thing that he says. 546 00:27:35,044 --> 00:27:37,394 He says I've talkedfrequently about the problem 547 00:27:37,525 --> 00:27:40,571 with concept of alternative medicine experts. 548 00:27:40,702 --> 00:27:42,008 They know a great deal about something 549 00:27:42,138 --> 00:27:45,185 fictional, but thisknowledge is only used for-- 550 00:27:45,315 --> 00:27:49,624 Over the years, I'vebeen called so many things-- 551 00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:54,063 snake oil salesman, charlatan. 552 00:27:54,194 --> 00:27:57,240 "He's not practicingaccepted veterinary medicine. 553 00:27:57,371 --> 00:28:01,854 He used to be a good veterinarian." 554 00:28:01,984 --> 00:28:06,293 About 20 years ago, I lecturedat Cornell, my alma mater, 555 00:28:06,423 --> 00:28:08,295 and I showed them all thesebefore and after pictures. 556 00:28:08,425 --> 00:28:11,951 It went in one ear and out the other. 557 00:28:12,081 --> 00:28:15,650 But now I have enough before and after cases 558 00:28:15,781 --> 00:28:19,262 where you don't have to be arocket scientist to realize, 559 00:28:19,393 --> 00:28:21,961 hey, we did something beneficialto the life of that dog. 560 00:28:27,575 --> 00:28:28,794 Dr. Jenna-- 561 00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:31,710 OK. 562 00:28:43,243 --> 00:28:45,114 This is Shadow. 563 00:28:45,245 --> 00:28:49,118 She has had significantarthritis for a couple years. 564 00:28:49,249 --> 00:28:51,425 And she's getting Magna Wave therapy. 565 00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:53,862 All right, this is gonnafeel a little strange, kiddo. 566 00:29:00,695 --> 00:29:01,827 So it's basically a very 567 00:29:01,957 --> 00:29:04,394 strong wave using magnets. 568 00:29:04,525 --> 00:29:06,483 And what it does is it pulsesthe electromagnetic field 569 00:29:06,614 --> 00:29:08,268 through the tissue. 570 00:29:08,398 --> 00:29:10,749 And as it pulses, it increasesthe blood flow to the area. 571 00:29:10,879 --> 00:29:12,533 And if we're doing that, we're decreasing 572 00:29:12,663 --> 00:29:16,232 the inflammation to helprelieve some of the pain. 573 00:29:16,363 --> 00:29:16,798 Good girl. 574 00:29:25,676 --> 00:29:26,808 - I - can understand Marty's 575 00:29:26,939 --> 00:29:29,202 frustration over the years. 576 00:29:29,332 --> 00:29:31,160 My father's a chiropractor. 577 00:29:31,291 --> 00:29:34,294 And I remember growing up in that environment 578 00:29:34,424 --> 00:29:36,644 where people are like, whatdo you mean chiropractor? 579 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,689 Or what do you mean, you know, supplements? 580 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:39,690 Or what do you mean good diet? 581 00:29:39,821 --> 00:29:41,605 And they would look at you. 582 00:29:41,736 --> 00:29:46,306 And they're like, that's not medicine. 583 00:29:46,436 --> 00:29:49,048 So I watched my father goingthrough all of the same things 584 00:29:49,178 --> 00:29:50,963 that I hear Marty talking about. 585 00:29:51,093 --> 00:29:53,313 Marty, OK if I turn out the lights for a second? 586 00:29:53,443 --> 00:29:53,879 Yeah. 587 00:29:57,578 --> 00:29:59,406 All right, let's take a look here, kid 588 00:29:59,536 --> 00:30:00,276 Good girl. 589 00:30:00,407 --> 00:30:00,929 It's OK. 590 00:30:07,762 --> 00:30:10,373 Growing up Inever imagined that being a vet 591 00:30:10,504 --> 00:30:12,288 would be all this medication. 592 00:30:12,419 --> 00:30:15,248 I imagined it would be doingthe same thing for pets. 593 00:30:15,378 --> 00:30:16,989 So that was the hardest challenge for me, 594 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,469 was getting out of school and being like, 595 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,210 I have to go work in conventional medicine 596 00:30:21,341 --> 00:30:22,821 where there was an expectation that I 597 00:30:22,951 --> 00:30:26,999 would treat conventionallyacross the board. 598 00:30:27,129 --> 00:30:29,697 And if I didn't treat with all the medications 599 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:33,266 that they thought wasappropriate, I got in trouble. 600 00:30:33,396 --> 00:30:35,181 It was hard because you were always covering 601 00:30:35,311 --> 00:30:36,835 up a disease with medicine. 602 00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:38,880 You were never getting tothe basis of what was wrong. 603 00:30:43,189 --> 00:30:44,625 And then a very dear friend of mine 604 00:30:44,755 --> 00:30:47,019 was like, there's a positionover at Smith Ridge. 605 00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:47,933 Why don't you go over there? 606 00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,891 I was like, what's Smith Ridge? 607 00:30:50,022 --> 00:30:51,197 Looked it up and found out that this 608 00:30:51,327 --> 00:30:53,416 was a practice that was doing exactly 609 00:30:53,547 --> 00:30:55,157 what I dreamed of doing. 610 00:30:55,288 --> 00:30:56,942 I know that's the sore part right there, 611 00:30:57,072 --> 00:30:59,074 right in your shoulder. 612 00:31:03,252 --> 00:31:05,776 But it comesdown again to a single practice 613 00:31:05,907 --> 00:31:10,999 versus, you know, having it asmore of a standard of medicine. 614 00:31:11,130 --> 00:31:11,870 Good girl. 615 00:31:28,582 --> 00:31:30,366 Well, I tell you, for mewhen somebody first brought up 616 00:31:30,497 --> 00:31:31,759 a holistic vet, to me, I was like what, 617 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:33,761 so they can take grassand rub it all over my dog 618 00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:34,980 and get my dog better? 619 00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:37,243 There's 190 million registered dogs 620 00:31:37,373 --> 00:31:40,724 and cats owned by 67% of thefamilies in the United States. 621 00:31:40,855 --> 00:31:42,813 And the scary thing is, one out of two of them 622 00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:44,076 could die of cancer. 623 00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:45,642 We've got increased rates of cancer, 624 00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:48,994 diabetes, you know, you name it,whether it's a person or a pet. 625 00:31:49,124 --> 00:31:51,518 It's all degenerative diseases now. 626 00:31:51,648 --> 00:31:54,564 Yeah, so in 1997, I had a patient 627 00:31:54,695 --> 00:31:58,351 and she moved from my practicein Los Angeles to New York. 628 00:31:58,481 --> 00:32:00,527 And a mutual friend called meone day and said, you know, 629 00:32:00,657 --> 00:32:04,052 did you hear she got tied upwith this crazy veterinarian 630 00:32:04,183 --> 00:32:06,315 who's charging her, like, a ton of money 631 00:32:06,446 --> 00:32:10,276 for vitamins and herbs and herdog has cancer, has cancer. 632 00:32:10,406 --> 00:32:11,712 And he's telling you you can treat 633 00:32:11,842 --> 00:32:13,844 cancer with diet and herbs. 634 00:32:13,975 --> 00:32:14,933 And I was incensed. 635 00:32:15,063 --> 00:32:16,456 I was so angry. 636 00:32:16,586 --> 00:32:19,502 So I thought, well, I'll getthis guy's license revoked. 637 00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:22,375 I'll get him out of ourprecious profession, right? 638 00:32:22,505 --> 00:32:23,637 So I called him. 639 00:32:23,767 --> 00:32:25,247 I called him on the phone. 640 00:32:25,378 --> 00:32:28,250 And I wanted to find outwhat his shtick was, right? 641 00:32:28,381 --> 00:32:31,601 So I said, I hear you cure cancer. 642 00:32:31,732 --> 00:32:32,820 And I expected him to say something 643 00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:34,691 that I could nail him on. 644 00:32:34,822 --> 00:32:37,216 And he said, no, we don't cure cancer. 645 00:32:37,346 --> 00:32:38,391 I said, but I thought you treated cancer. 646 00:32:38,521 --> 00:32:39,435 And he said no. 647 00:32:39,566 --> 00:32:40,871 He said what we do is we actually 648 00:32:41,002 --> 00:32:42,264 support the immune system. 649 00:32:42,395 --> 00:32:43,613 And when you make the immune system stronger, 650 00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:45,702 sometimes really amazing things happen. 651 00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:48,488 And I went, that's how he gets away with it. 652 00:32:48,618 --> 00:32:49,706 That's how he gets away with it. 653 00:32:49,837 --> 00:32:51,621 So I'm like, hey, would you mind if I 654 00:32:51,752 --> 00:32:53,014 came out sometime and just, like, 655 00:32:53,145 --> 00:32:54,842 saw how your practice works? 656 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:56,931 And he immediately said yes. 657 00:32:57,062 --> 00:32:59,064 So I flew to New York, go to his practice. 658 00:32:59,194 --> 00:33:01,588 And I thought there was goingto be a bunch of hippies, 659 00:33:01,718 --> 00:33:04,591 you know, all walking around,smoking dope, and hugging. 660 00:33:04,721 --> 00:33:07,768 And the hugging part is true. 661 00:33:07,898 --> 00:33:09,900 So he presents case after case after case 662 00:33:10,031 --> 00:33:11,946 of all these cancer patientsthat are getting better. 663 00:33:12,077 --> 00:33:14,731 And remember that paralyzeddog from Northern Colorado? 664 00:33:14,862 --> 00:33:16,907 Yeah, so this dog came fromthe biggest neurologist 665 00:33:17,038 --> 00:33:18,822 in the United States, failed on this case, 666 00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:20,172 said it was a hopeless case. 667 00:33:20,302 --> 00:33:22,913 Marty sticks like 12 needlesin this dog and the dog 668 00:33:23,044 --> 00:33:25,438 gets up after being paralyzedfor like three months, 669 00:33:25,568 --> 00:33:27,440 gets up and walks over and puts his head 670 00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:29,833 in the lap of the owner. 671 00:33:29,964 --> 00:33:31,487 And so the only thing I could do is, 672 00:33:31,618 --> 00:33:33,576 I'm here to destroy this guy. 673 00:33:33,707 --> 00:33:35,839 He just did the biggestmiracle of my entire career. 674 00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:38,712 I actually fainted. 675 00:33:38,842 --> 00:33:40,627 You passed out. 676 00:33:40,757 --> 00:33:43,717 And so when I woke up, I hada completely different view. 677 00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:45,371 So I changed my practice. 678 00:33:45,501 --> 00:33:46,720 I changed the way I did medicine. 679 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:50,158 I started helping moreanimals and using fewer drugs. 680 00:33:50,289 --> 00:33:52,595 And the science is coming out now. 681 00:33:52,726 --> 00:33:55,381 I mean, we have a study that'sshowing markedly improved 682 00:33:55,511 --> 00:33:57,861 survival time for cancer patients who receive 683 00:33:57,992 --> 00:34:01,126 the best of Western cancer therapy 684 00:34:01,256 --> 00:34:03,389 and the best of integrative medicine. 685 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:05,652 This is not snake oil. 686 00:34:05,782 --> 00:34:08,394 But there still is a wall of resistance. 687 00:34:08,524 --> 00:34:09,569 The whole point of integrative medicine 688 00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:11,179 is it's part of medicine. 689 00:34:15,531 --> 00:34:17,011 DrGoldstein, your appointment 690 00:34:17,142 --> 00:34:17,881 is in room two. 691 00:34:22,582 --> 00:34:25,150 So the breeder gavehim one vaccine at eight weeks. 692 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,064 Right. 693 00:34:26,194 --> 00:34:29,545 You did one at 13 and 1/2 weeks. 694 00:34:29,676 --> 00:34:31,982 And now I'm under theimpression that we should 695 00:34:32,113 --> 00:34:34,681 do the parvo this third time. 696 00:34:34,811 --> 00:34:35,856 Yeah. 697 00:34:35,986 --> 00:34:38,685 But after that we have a thing called a titre. 698 00:34:38,815 --> 00:34:39,729 OK. 699 00:34:39,860 --> 00:34:41,427 A titre is a blood test that measures 700 00:34:41,557 --> 00:34:45,692 the level of immunity generatedby the previous vaccine. 701 00:34:45,822 --> 00:34:50,740 And if it's positive, he's mostlikely protected against parvo. 702 00:34:50,871 --> 00:34:52,264 OK. 703 00:34:52,394 --> 00:34:56,268 And we can titre for mostvaccines throughout his life. 704 00:34:56,398 --> 00:34:58,835 And if he's immune, youdon't have to worry about it. 705 00:34:58,966 --> 00:35:00,620 OK, I like that. 706 00:35:00,750 --> 00:35:02,709 But rabies is a different story. 707 00:35:02,839 --> 00:35:06,452 Because rabies vaccines are mandated 708 00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:08,454 by state and federal law. 709 00:35:08,584 --> 00:35:10,195 OK. 710 00:35:10,325 --> 00:35:13,589 Now if there wasn't a tiebetween the immunosuppressive 711 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,940 effects of the vaccines and allthe cancer and other diseases 712 00:35:17,071 --> 00:35:18,855 we're seeing, I wouldn't be talking about this. 713 00:35:24,034 --> 00:35:26,646 One ofthe most controversial issues 714 00:35:26,776 --> 00:35:29,910 I've been fighting for isthe proper administration 715 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,392 of vaccinations. 716 00:35:33,522 --> 00:35:36,873 That's the American Veterinary Medical 717 00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:42,357 Association, the governing bodyover the entire profession. 718 00:35:42,488 --> 00:35:47,319 "Vaccines and Sarcomas, aConcern for Cat Owners." 719 00:35:47,449 --> 00:35:50,104 The tumor grows at the site of the vaccine. 720 00:35:50,235 --> 00:35:52,628 Because most cats get thevaccine between the shoulder 721 00:35:52,759 --> 00:35:54,369 blades. 722 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:57,459 So now the recommendationis vaccinating 723 00:35:57,590 --> 00:35:59,331 the cat in the rear legs. 724 00:35:59,461 --> 00:36:01,594 Well, now they're even trying the tail 725 00:36:01,724 --> 00:36:04,814 so that when the tumor grows, you could remedy 726 00:36:04,945 --> 00:36:07,730 the situation by amputation. 727 00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:11,038 And it's not only the vaccine,it's not only the organism, 728 00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:13,693 but the thing that makesthe vaccine more powerful 729 00:36:13,823 --> 00:36:14,259 called the adjuvant. 730 00:36:30,231 --> 00:36:34,757 And adjuvant is typically achemical put into a vaccine. 731 00:36:34,888 --> 00:36:36,933 It causes an inflammatory reaction 732 00:36:37,064 --> 00:36:38,805 at the site of the injection. 733 00:36:38,935 --> 00:36:41,329 So the vaccine gets absorbedquicker into the body 734 00:36:41,460 --> 00:36:44,071 so it builds up a higher level of immunity. 735 00:36:48,554 --> 00:36:51,426 Another concern is over vaccination. 736 00:36:54,603 --> 00:36:57,650 Because the typical puppywould get a series of three 737 00:36:57,780 --> 00:36:59,521 when they're young-- 738 00:36:59,652 --> 00:37:03,482 eight weeks, 12 weeks, 16 weeks. 739 00:37:06,659 --> 00:37:12,317 After that, many veterinariansvaccinate every year. 740 00:37:12,447 --> 00:37:16,886 The dose is one vial pipette, regardless 741 00:37:17,017 --> 00:37:21,848 of weight, age, or breed. 742 00:37:21,978 --> 00:37:26,244 But also the vaccine could be up to 10 times 743 00:37:26,374 --> 00:37:28,898 the potency needed tochallenge the immune system 744 00:37:29,029 --> 00:37:31,553 of a Great Dane. 745 00:37:31,684 --> 00:37:36,341 And the same dose is givento the two-pound chihuahua. 746 00:37:36,471 --> 00:37:38,386 And it's been scientifically proven 747 00:37:38,517 --> 00:37:41,259 that one vaccination can generate 748 00:37:41,389 --> 00:37:44,740 immunity that lasts many years. 749 00:37:44,871 --> 00:37:49,745 So if your pet is due, haveyour veterinarian take a titre. 750 00:37:49,876 --> 00:37:54,359 And if a dog has a positivetitre against, let's say, 751 00:37:54,489 --> 00:37:59,451 distemper or parvo, then they're not "due" 752 00:37:59,581 --> 00:38:02,541 just because the calendar says. 753 00:38:02,671 --> 00:38:07,067 So I'm not saying that I'm anti-vaccine. 754 00:38:07,197 --> 00:38:08,155 I'm pro-sanity. 755 00:38:14,074 --> 00:38:14,509 All right, come on. 756 00:38:26,826 --> 00:38:32,440 He was definitely runninga fever all weekend. 757 00:38:32,571 --> 00:38:34,268 He was drinking from the bowl. 758 00:38:34,399 --> 00:38:36,792 But now he doesn't evenwant to drink from the bowl. 759 00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:37,880 And he's not eating. 760 00:38:38,011 --> 00:38:40,970 So I'm force feeding him water and food. 761 00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:42,798 What's hisenergy been like at home? 762 00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:44,017 He doesn't want to do anything. 763 00:38:44,147 --> 00:38:45,845 All he does is sleep. 764 00:38:45,975 --> 00:38:47,194 And he did lose alittle bit of weight as well. 765 00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:48,413 I thought they said he increased. 766 00:38:48,543 --> 00:38:50,240 No, no. 767 00:38:50,371 --> 00:38:52,939 No, he's down a little bit. 768 00:38:53,069 --> 00:38:54,723 No, I think you're doing agood job with the nutrition. 769 00:38:54,854 --> 00:38:57,422 It's he's just not absorbing. 770 00:38:57,552 --> 00:38:59,815 It seems like I'm feeding something. 771 00:38:59,946 --> 00:39:00,860 I'm feeding him. 772 00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:02,514 But it's not getting to him. 773 00:39:02,644 --> 00:39:04,646 OK. 774 00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:07,954 Tell me more about thesituation where he came from. 775 00:39:08,084 --> 00:39:10,217 You know, he originally came from Arkansas, 776 00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,175 and then he went where from there? 777 00:39:12,306 --> 00:39:14,569 He was abandonedon the side of the road 778 00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:18,443 with his mother, a brother, and a sister. 779 00:39:18,573 --> 00:39:20,270 And he was the smallest of the three. 780 00:39:20,401 --> 00:39:22,577 But the two of them are healthy. 781 00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:25,275 OK. 782 00:39:25,406 --> 00:39:27,016 And he how did he come here? 783 00:39:27,147 --> 00:39:30,498 He was delivered here by some delivery truck? 784 00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:31,499 Or how did he come here? 785 00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:32,413 I'm assuming. 786 00:39:32,544 --> 00:39:34,415 All right, all right. 787 00:39:34,546 --> 00:39:37,287 So let's turn over other stones as a possibility 788 00:39:37,418 --> 00:39:38,506 of what's going on here. 789 00:39:50,823 --> 00:39:52,868 With Waffles, more things 790 00:39:52,999 --> 00:39:54,696 sort of came to light that didn't really fit 791 00:39:54,827 --> 00:39:59,048 just a rabies vaccine reaction. 792 00:39:59,179 --> 00:40:02,574 When you have a patient who isso complicated, so much going 793 00:40:02,704 --> 00:40:06,099 on and you don't have a diagnosis, 794 00:40:06,229 --> 00:40:08,231 then you start to dig a littlebit more for the rare things. 795 00:40:11,452 --> 00:40:14,977 You're trying to solve a mystery. 796 00:40:15,108 --> 00:40:18,241 That mystery changes on a daily basis, 797 00:40:18,372 --> 00:40:20,592 sometimes on an hourly basis. 798 00:40:20,722 --> 00:40:21,810 It's almost like a Sherlock Holmes process. 799 00:40:25,161 --> 00:40:28,295 He is coming up positive forthe fungal infection called 800 00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:30,210 Blastomycosis. 801 00:40:30,340 --> 00:40:32,734 It's a rare disease in our area. 802 00:40:32,865 --> 00:40:35,824 So it's not on your radar. 803 00:40:35,955 --> 00:40:37,435 So I have a feeling what happened 804 00:40:37,565 --> 00:40:40,699 was he came from thisvery difficult situation. 805 00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:43,876 He was exposed to this fungus at some point. 806 00:40:44,006 --> 00:40:46,226 Then he got a vaccine and it challenged 807 00:40:46,356 --> 00:40:48,054 his immune system too much. 808 00:40:48,184 --> 00:40:50,665 And then everything kind oftook off from from there. 809 00:40:50,796 --> 00:40:52,232 So what do I do? 810 00:40:52,362 --> 00:40:53,494 Essentially, what we need to do 811 00:40:53,625 --> 00:40:55,365 is get him on an antifungal medication, 812 00:40:55,496 --> 00:40:57,585 and then track his blood work. 813 00:40:57,716 --> 00:41:00,283 This can be a very long-term treatment. 814 00:41:00,414 --> 00:41:01,981 OK. 815 00:41:02,111 --> 00:41:04,636 The medicationis pretty hard on the body. 816 00:41:04,766 --> 00:41:06,638 So at some point, I wouldwant to do a C on him 817 00:41:06,768 --> 00:41:09,336 really to help him more withthe medication than anything. 818 00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:11,077 Because his immune system is working. 819 00:41:11,207 --> 00:41:12,644 It just needs help. 820 00:41:12,774 --> 00:41:13,471 PET OWNER : What do you 821 00:41:13,601 --> 00:41:16,212 rate his chances of survival? 822 00:41:16,343 --> 00:41:19,607 It is a very vicious organism. 823 00:41:19,738 --> 00:41:22,523 It can go to the heart andthe brain and the eyes. 824 00:41:22,654 --> 00:41:24,133 He can go blind. 825 00:41:24,264 --> 00:41:27,746 I'm hoping that we can catch up to it. 826 00:41:27,876 --> 00:41:28,616 You did it! 827 00:41:36,145 --> 00:41:38,670 He definitely has a fever. 828 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,106 Yeah, he's puttingout heat like a furnace 829 00:41:40,236 --> 00:41:40,976 right now. 830 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:45,285 You're gonna beat this, Waffles. 831 00:41:50,595 --> 00:41:51,770 Whether you're a person or an animal, 832 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:55,904 it doesn't matter, being in a hospital sucks. 833 00:41:56,035 --> 00:41:59,212 And if they are alone andthey're feeling like shit 834 00:41:59,342 --> 00:42:00,735 and there's no reason for them, they 835 00:42:00,866 --> 00:42:02,824 don't feel like a dog or a cat anymore, 836 00:42:02,955 --> 00:42:06,654 they're just too down, what do they have? 837 00:42:06,785 --> 00:42:08,613 They don't do that in hospitals with people. 838 00:42:08,743 --> 00:42:10,440 There is the staff there all the time 839 00:42:10,571 --> 00:42:12,094 in and out waking you up, checking 840 00:42:12,225 --> 00:42:13,661 you, checking your line. 841 00:42:13,792 --> 00:42:16,098 So why wouldn't we do with ananimal that doesn't even have 842 00:42:16,229 --> 00:42:20,146 an idea of why they're here? 843 00:42:20,276 --> 00:42:21,016 You're OK. 844 00:42:21,147 --> 00:42:22,409 You're OK. 845 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:24,237 They don't understandwhat's happening to them. 846 00:42:24,367 --> 00:42:28,371 So you have to remember that,especially when it gets crazy. 847 00:42:28,502 --> 00:42:29,851 Because there are plenty of times 848 00:42:29,982 --> 00:42:31,461 we're crying on each other's shoulders. 849 00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:45,519 I guess if you want to compare it 850 00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:47,869 to human medicine, licensed technicians, 851 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,567 we are the registered nurses. 852 00:42:49,697 --> 00:42:53,396 But then on top of that,we're also the phlebotomist, 853 00:42:53,527 --> 00:42:57,749 the x-ray technician, dental hygienist, 854 00:42:57,879 --> 00:43:00,055 the person who places the catheters, 855 00:43:00,186 --> 00:43:01,840 the surgical assistant. 856 00:43:01,970 --> 00:43:04,233 And we are the anesthesiologist. 857 00:43:04,364 --> 00:43:05,104 Come on, Crystal. 858 00:43:05,234 --> 00:43:06,366 Wake up, sweetie. 859 00:43:06,496 --> 00:43:07,802 Come on, Crystal. 860 00:43:07,933 --> 00:43:08,586 Hello. 861 00:43:12,111 --> 00:43:14,461 Two, three. 862 00:43:14,592 --> 00:43:16,158 It's definitely not a glamorous job. 863 00:43:16,289 --> 00:43:18,639 And it's a very physicallyhard, taxing job. 864 00:43:21,729 --> 00:43:24,689 We had 144-pound dog here yesterday. 865 00:43:24,819 --> 00:43:26,778 And had he been aggressive, it turns 866 00:43:26,908 --> 00:43:30,346 a whole new twist on things. 867 00:43:30,477 --> 00:43:34,524 But we still keep in mind, thisis a scared animal coming in. 868 00:43:34,655 --> 00:43:37,919 They're just trusting us. 869 00:43:38,050 --> 00:43:40,095 We're old friends, right Joe? 870 00:43:40,226 --> 00:43:42,184 Sometimes it's likebeing in a kid's daycare. 871 00:43:42,315 --> 00:43:44,143 That's a good boy. 872 00:43:44,273 --> 00:43:47,146 Hello, love. 873 00:43:47,276 --> 00:43:48,147 All right. 874 00:43:58,157 --> 00:44:01,073 Mulligan is here for Dr. Goldstein. 875 00:44:01,203 --> 00:44:01,943 How is he? 876 00:44:02,074 --> 00:44:03,858 He's 100%. 877 00:44:03,989 --> 00:44:05,773 He sleeps all through the night. 878 00:44:05,904 --> 00:44:08,428 He now does not pee every three hours. 879 00:44:08,558 --> 00:44:10,517 He can hold almost six hours. 880 00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:11,779 Such a good sign. 881 00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:14,086 And I'm always ready tolook on the floor in front 882 00:44:14,216 --> 00:44:15,827 of the refrigerator because that's his spot where 883 00:44:15,957 --> 00:44:18,960 he always pees, and it's dry. 884 00:44:19,091 --> 00:44:20,309 Amazing to me. 885 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,312 What you'redescribing is great signs. 886 00:44:23,443 --> 00:44:25,532 So today blood work. 887 00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:27,447 I'm going to give him his favorite injections. 888 00:44:27,577 --> 00:44:29,579 I'll make adjustments if needed. 889 00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:30,537 OK. 890 00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:31,799 You brought the urine in. 891 00:44:31,930 --> 00:44:33,583 I did, fresh, the first catch of the day. 892 00:44:33,714 --> 00:44:35,020 Yeah, which is really good. 893 00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:36,543 This is very exciting. 894 00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:38,023 You know, everything I've 895 00:44:38,153 --> 00:44:40,765 learned from conversationsand from seeing him, 896 00:44:40,895 --> 00:44:43,115 it's a whole new process of thinking. 897 00:44:43,245 --> 00:44:45,204 But what I don't understandis why this hasn't 898 00:44:45,334 --> 00:44:47,728 caught on in a very big way. 899 00:44:47,859 --> 00:44:50,035 It's so obvious. 900 00:44:50,165 --> 00:44:51,993 I mean, once you get it, it's so obvious. 901 00:44:52,124 --> 00:44:56,302 Welcome to the struggle of my life. 902 00:44:56,432 --> 00:44:59,305 Let me examine Sir Mulligan. 903 00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:00,828 His disease hopefully is a thing of the past. 904 00:45:07,966 --> 00:45:09,532 I had no idea what Dr. 905 00:45:09,663 --> 00:45:12,013 Marty would look like or be. 906 00:45:12,144 --> 00:45:13,972 And when I met him, he's like, you know, 907 00:45:14,102 --> 00:45:18,280 an adorable hippie about 25 years 908 00:45:18,411 --> 00:45:20,413 too old for the clothes he's wearing. 909 00:45:20,543 --> 00:45:21,414 But they work somehow. 910 00:45:25,897 --> 00:45:27,289 Like a flying nun. 911 00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:29,117 Flying nun. 912 00:45:29,248 --> 00:45:30,249 I know. 913 00:45:30,379 --> 00:45:31,163 I know. 914 00:45:31,293 --> 00:45:32,120 I know. 915 00:45:32,251 --> 00:45:32,991 Hey. 916 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,907 My god. 917 00:45:36,037 --> 00:45:36,777 My god. 918 00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:53,272 What attracted you to Marty? 919 00:45:53,402 --> 00:45:54,926 He made me laugh. 920 00:45:55,056 --> 00:45:57,145 And that was a huge quality. 921 00:45:57,276 --> 00:46:00,845 Because it's just, we just liketo laugh about, like, stupid 922 00:46:00,975 --> 00:46:03,195 stuff all the time. 923 00:46:03,325 --> 00:46:04,674 Well, when we go out-- 924 00:46:04,805 --> 00:46:07,939 when we go out to dinner orwe go someplace with the kids, 925 00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:11,725 she introduces the four of us as her children. 926 00:46:11,856 --> 00:46:12,552 I'd like you to meet my children. 927 00:46:12,682 --> 00:46:14,380 Yes. 928 00:46:14,510 --> 00:46:15,250 My youngest. 929 00:46:15,381 --> 00:46:15,816 Right, right. 930 00:46:27,219 --> 00:46:29,830 We have three girls, teenagers, 931 00:46:29,961 --> 00:46:35,357 four dogs, one 20-year-old cat. 932 00:46:35,488 --> 00:46:38,708 We have two lizards. 933 00:46:38,839 --> 00:46:41,407 And we have a parakeet. 934 00:46:41,537 --> 00:46:43,670 We have a bunny. 935 00:46:43,801 --> 00:46:44,279 We have eight chickens. 936 00:46:47,065 --> 00:46:49,894 I'm not sure if we have more animals 937 00:46:50,024 --> 00:46:51,983 at home or at the clinic. 938 00:46:53,636 --> 00:46:54,768 Come on, Red. 939 00:46:54,899 --> 00:46:57,902 Red, come on. 940 00:46:58,032 --> 00:47:00,252 Working together, it's not always, 941 00:47:00,382 --> 00:47:02,210 you know, peaches and cream. 942 00:47:02,341 --> 00:47:04,865 But we've always believedthat if you're working 943 00:47:04,996 --> 00:47:07,128 towards the same goal, then it doesn't 944 00:47:07,259 --> 00:47:09,478 matter who goes what direction. 945 00:47:09,609 --> 00:47:10,436 Let's just get there. 946 00:47:10,566 --> 00:47:11,002 Exactly. 947 00:47:16,007 --> 00:47:18,183 When we first started to date, she 948 00:47:18,313 --> 00:47:20,359 used to come over to my house. 949 00:47:20,489 --> 00:47:23,144 My animals liked her better than me. 950 00:47:23,275 --> 00:47:26,147 And I watched that, even at the clinic, 951 00:47:26,278 --> 00:47:29,847 I watched how she had a way with animals 952 00:47:29,977 --> 00:47:31,718 or they had an affinity for her. 953 00:47:34,895 --> 00:47:38,290 That's when I first startedat Smith Ridge back in 1996. 954 00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:39,682 That was the old one, the shack. 955 00:47:39,813 --> 00:47:41,249 The old Smith Ridge clinic. 956 00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:42,250 Officially known as "the shack." 957 00:47:47,516 --> 00:47:50,128 Becauseintegrative medicine was not 958 00:47:50,258 --> 00:47:53,435 an accepted modality, it was hard for me 959 00:47:53,566 --> 00:47:56,569 to work at that standard veterinary hospital. 960 00:47:56,699 --> 00:47:59,485 So I wound up having to go out on my own. 961 00:47:59,615 --> 00:48:05,708 And in 1982, my first practice was a kennel 962 00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:08,146 that I rented space in. 963 00:48:08,276 --> 00:48:11,453 Because that's all I could afford. 964 00:48:11,584 --> 00:48:16,241 My exam room became my surgery room. 965 00:48:16,371 --> 00:48:19,592 Our bathroom wasthe X-ray developer room. 966 00:48:19,722 --> 00:48:21,507 So if somebody wasdeveloping an X-ray film, 967 00:48:21,637 --> 00:48:22,508 you couldn't use the bathroom. 968 00:48:22,638 --> 00:48:24,553 You couldn't bathroom. 969 00:48:24,684 --> 00:48:27,382 So whenwe started to get patients, 970 00:48:27,513 --> 00:48:30,211 people would walk into thisplace, they would look around, 971 00:48:30,342 --> 00:48:33,693 and they would ask if they had the wrong address. 972 00:48:33,823 --> 00:48:35,477 Boy, we've come a long way. 973 00:48:35,608 --> 00:48:36,739 Long way. 974 00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:37,697 Wow. 975 00:48:37,827 --> 00:48:38,567 Wow. 976 00:48:43,616 --> 00:48:45,444 --be quick,and pick-up time is generally 977 00:48:45,574 --> 00:48:47,228 between 4:30 and 5:00. 978 00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:48,795 when he wakes up. 979 00:48:48,926 --> 00:48:50,188 SmithRidge, this is 980 00:48:50,318 --> 00:48:51,189 How can I help you? 981 00:48:59,893 --> 00:49:01,416 - I'm Dr. Shane. - Hi, Dr. Shane. 982 00:49:01,547 --> 00:49:02,417 - Hi there. - I'm Jennifer. 983 00:49:02,548 --> 00:49:03,462 - Hi there. - Hi. 984 00:49:03,592 --> 00:49:04,637 Nice to meet you. 985 00:49:04,767 --> 00:49:06,508 Hi, Petey. 986 00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:08,336 All right. 987 00:49:08,467 --> 00:49:11,296 So tell me about theconsults that you've had. 988 00:49:11,426 --> 00:49:13,037 - Well, he's been to five vets. - OK. 989 00:49:13,167 --> 00:49:14,168 And it all started when 990 00:49:14,299 --> 00:49:16,823 he got shots on a Wednesday. 991 00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:18,520 I he had a tumor on Friday. 992 00:49:18,651 --> 00:49:19,957 And then I brought him backto the vet on Saturday. 993 00:49:20,087 --> 00:49:21,132 He never had it before. 994 00:49:21,262 --> 00:49:23,090 It was a lump.- And he was drooling crazy. 995 00:49:23,221 --> 00:49:25,049 And he had a runny nose after the shots, 996 00:49:25,179 --> 00:49:25,963 like a few days later. 997 00:49:26,093 --> 00:49:27,355 So he had a reaction. 998 00:49:27,486 --> 00:49:31,011 So he was vaccinated withoutany discussion about it? 999 00:49:31,142 --> 00:49:32,752 They're like, he's duefor this, this, and this. 1000 00:49:32,882 --> 00:49:34,101 And I was kind of like, all right, 1001 00:49:34,232 --> 00:49:36,103 get her done while I'm here. 1002 00:49:36,234 --> 00:49:38,540 And then not realizing, they, you know-- 1003 00:49:38,671 --> 00:49:40,064 They gave him the flu shot,the kennel cough vaccine-- 1004 00:49:40,194 --> 00:49:41,195 They gave him a flu, a lep-- 1005 00:49:41,326 --> 00:49:42,631 Leptospirosis, right. 1006 00:49:42,762 --> 00:49:44,068 And a kennel. 1007 00:49:44,198 --> 00:49:46,026 Would that trigger that to make it grow or-- 1008 00:49:46,157 --> 00:49:49,247 I can't imagine thatthat happened in just 48 hours. 1009 00:49:49,377 --> 00:49:50,944 That's what all the other vets said. 1010 00:49:51,075 --> 00:49:52,467 But it's hard for me not to believe it. 1011 00:49:52,598 --> 00:49:53,599 Right. 1012 00:49:53,729 --> 00:49:56,297 So then I went back. 1013 00:49:56,428 --> 00:49:59,170 She said I don't knowwhat's wrong with his mouth. 1014 00:49:59,300 --> 00:50:01,215 Then he went to New Jersey with her. 1015 00:50:01,346 --> 00:50:02,477 He goes on vacation, this dog. 1016 00:50:02,608 --> 00:50:03,739 OK, that's awesome. 1017 00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:05,611 So then he wentto a vet in New Jersey. 1018 00:50:05,741 --> 00:50:07,830 And he called a week laterand said that it was cancer. 1019 00:50:07,961 --> 00:50:08,701 Yeah. 1020 00:50:08,831 --> 00:50:10,442 OK. 1021 00:50:10,572 --> 00:50:13,836 They said they would mostlikely have to remove his jaw 1022 00:50:13,967 --> 00:50:15,664 and he would be deformed. 1023 00:50:15,795 --> 00:50:19,451 I said, no, just, you know,let me just think about it. 1024 00:50:19,581 --> 00:50:21,366 And then I met a woman in the park. 1025 00:50:21,496 --> 00:50:24,282 And she said, did youtalk to Marty Goldstein. 1026 00:50:24,412 --> 00:50:28,808 Because he'll do anythingnot to cut it out. 1027 00:50:28,938 --> 00:50:30,766 And I don't know what her namewas, just a woman at the dog 1028 00:50:30,897 --> 00:50:32,638 park told me about you. 1029 00:50:32,768 --> 00:50:34,031 OK. 1030 00:50:34,161 --> 00:50:35,989 All right, let's get a good look at you. 1031 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,208 You wanna lay down, honey? 1032 00:50:37,338 --> 00:50:38,470 Go ahead, lay down. 1033 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,647 You're the best. 1034 00:50:41,777 --> 00:50:43,388 You're the best patient. 1035 00:50:43,518 --> 00:50:44,606 Plus, the sore is on this side. 1036 00:50:44,737 --> 00:50:45,477 Yeah, OK. 1037 00:50:45,607 --> 00:50:46,391 Here, it's over here. 1038 00:50:46,521 --> 00:50:48,262 All right, mom. 1039 00:50:48,393 --> 00:50:50,743 They said the tumor is inside by his tongue. 1040 00:50:50,873 --> 00:50:53,311 Without sedation, itwould be hard to really see 1041 00:50:53,441 --> 00:50:54,616 the whole thing.- See, there it is right there. 1042 00:50:54,747 --> 00:50:55,487 Gosh, he is so good. 1043 00:50:55,617 --> 00:50:56,357 There it is right there. 1044 00:50:56,488 --> 00:50:57,489 What a dog. 1045 00:50:57,619 --> 00:51:00,405 My god. 1046 00:51:00,535 --> 00:51:01,754 I have to assume that-- 1047 00:51:01,884 --> 00:51:03,060 Petey, it's OK. 1048 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:07,760 --that the tumor iscompletely infiltrating his jaw. 1049 00:51:07,890 --> 00:51:10,502 So I'm definitely going toget Dr. Goldstein involved. 1050 00:51:10,632 --> 00:51:11,981 I want him to take a look. 1051 00:51:12,112 --> 00:51:15,681 I want him to give me his opinion on doing 1052 00:51:15,811 --> 00:51:17,074 something for Petey's jaw. 1053 00:51:20,512 --> 00:51:21,252 Whoa. 1054 00:51:25,169 --> 00:51:26,039 And then open up your jaw, Petey. 1055 00:51:26,170 --> 00:51:26,909 Hang on, buddy. 1056 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,738 I just wanna get behind him. 1057 00:51:29,869 --> 00:51:31,044 That's extensive. 1058 00:51:36,310 --> 00:51:38,486 It doesn't really seem painful. 1059 00:51:38,617 --> 00:51:39,879 He's got it all the way back here. 1060 00:51:40,009 --> 00:51:43,404 I know. 1061 00:51:43,535 --> 00:51:44,884 Yeah, there's somenecrotic tissue in there. 1062 00:51:45,014 --> 00:51:47,626 Ooh, smelly. 1063 00:51:47,756 --> 00:51:49,497 OK, Petey, I know. 1064 00:51:49,628 --> 00:51:55,808 Well, we could at least do amajor debulking of the cancer 1065 00:51:55,938 --> 00:51:58,376 mess using cryosurgery. 1066 00:51:58,506 --> 00:52:01,292 They want to do hemimandibulectomy? 1067 00:52:01,422 --> 00:52:04,077 That's what has been recommended repeatedly. 1068 00:52:04,208 --> 00:52:08,864 She said, I've decided I don'twant to do traditional surgery. 1069 00:52:08,995 --> 00:52:09,996 I'll come in with you. 1070 00:52:10,127 --> 00:52:12,564 OK, all right. 1071 00:52:12,694 --> 00:52:14,870 I have been workingat a traditional practice 1072 00:52:15,001 --> 00:52:16,785 for about 15 years. 1073 00:52:16,916 --> 00:52:20,615 And Dr. Ruskin who I hadworked with at another practice 1074 00:52:20,746 --> 00:52:24,228 had been desperately trying toget me to come to Smith Ridge. 1075 00:52:24,358 --> 00:52:26,534 But it didn't feel like the right fit for me. 1076 00:52:26,665 --> 00:52:28,406 I thought it was going to be too holistic. 1077 00:52:28,536 --> 00:52:31,191 I had a lot of preconceivednotions about it. 1078 00:52:31,322 --> 00:52:33,019 Marty, what would you like to use? 1079 00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:34,499 Adrenal B12 and what else? 1080 00:52:34,629 --> 00:52:37,241 And then Marty started calling me. 1081 00:52:37,371 --> 00:52:41,245 And they were tag teaming me to come in. 1082 00:52:41,375 --> 00:52:43,116 And I said OK. 1083 00:52:43,247 --> 00:52:46,163 But I was nervous about meeting him. 1084 00:52:46,293 --> 00:52:48,121 I didn't think I was going to like him. 1085 00:52:48,252 --> 00:52:52,081 Because I had seen some of his medical 1086 00:52:52,212 --> 00:52:57,565 records just from casesthat we had shared and seen 1087 00:52:57,696 --> 00:52:59,263 this list of supplements. 1088 00:52:59,393 --> 00:53:02,004 And I thought, this is so ridiculous. 1089 00:53:02,135 --> 00:53:03,658 I mean, it's just so long. 1090 00:53:03,789 --> 00:53:07,532 And how could anybody evertake all of these supplements? 1091 00:53:07,662 --> 00:53:10,143 And how could he possibly even know 1092 00:53:10,274 --> 00:53:12,101 about all these supplements? 1093 00:53:12,232 --> 00:53:14,060 I don't think the homeopathicis going to do anything. 1094 00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:15,583 The adrenal B12-- 1095 00:53:15,714 --> 00:53:17,759 But I met with him and he 1096 00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:21,763 was completely different fromwhat I expected him to be. 1097 00:53:21,894 --> 00:53:24,984 And I remember he said to me,so what do you want to do? 1098 00:53:25,114 --> 00:53:27,639 Who do you want to be? 1099 00:53:27,769 --> 00:53:31,991 Do you want to be someonewho does this work? 1100 00:53:32,121 --> 00:53:36,604 And my answer was yes. 1101 00:53:36,735 --> 00:53:38,258 Dr. Jenna, your 1 o'clock 1102 00:53:38,389 --> 00:53:40,478 phone is on line one. 1103 00:53:40,608 --> 00:53:45,047 OK, this is a very difficult case. 1104 00:53:45,178 --> 00:53:46,919 Cancer grows exponentially. 1105 00:53:47,049 --> 00:53:50,836 If the replication rate of acancer cell is every four hours 1106 00:53:50,966 --> 00:53:54,709 and you have a tumor that'scomposed of billions of cells, 1107 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,539 it could create billionsof cells every four hours. 1108 00:53:58,670 --> 00:54:00,106 And I've had people tell me that they 1109 00:54:00,237 --> 00:54:03,109 have sat home over the weekend and watched 1110 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:04,937 their dogs tumor double. 1111 00:54:05,067 --> 00:54:06,591 Radiation is an option. 1112 00:54:06,721 --> 00:54:08,027 They're not going to go for it. 1113 00:54:08,157 --> 00:54:11,248 Removing that whole jaw is an option. 1114 00:54:11,378 --> 00:54:12,292 They're not going to go for it. 1115 00:54:12,423 --> 00:54:15,556 So let's talk about cryosurgery. 1116 00:54:15,687 --> 00:54:18,690 With cryosurgery, weactually freeze the tumor. 1117 00:54:18,820 --> 00:54:20,692 And the freezing actually stimulates 1118 00:54:20,822 --> 00:54:23,782 the immune system so thatwhatever cancer we freeze 1119 00:54:23,912 --> 00:54:25,566 will get rejected. 1120 00:54:25,697 --> 00:54:28,177 And then the body will lay down new scar tissue 1121 00:54:28,308 --> 00:54:30,658 where the cancer used to be. 1122 00:54:30,789 --> 00:54:34,532 But we save enough vital tissuefor functionality of the jaw. 1123 00:54:34,662 --> 00:54:37,448 Coming from a traditional background, 1124 00:54:37,578 --> 00:54:42,801 I can't even conceive of this kind of success. 1125 00:54:42,931 --> 00:54:43,976 Think about it. 1126 00:54:44,106 --> 00:54:46,935 You get your finger frost bit. 1127 00:54:47,066 --> 00:54:49,982 The part that really got frostbit will die. 1128 00:54:50,112 --> 00:54:52,854 The part that almost got frostbit 1129 00:54:52,985 --> 00:54:55,640 will form a wall ofdefense, a wall of defense 1130 00:54:55,770 --> 00:54:57,685 and reject the other piece. 1131 00:54:57,816 --> 00:54:59,774 That's what we want to do with cryosurgery. 1132 00:54:59,905 --> 00:55:05,693 But at this stage, we are verytime-limited with this case. 1133 00:55:05,824 --> 00:55:07,652 If we don't docryosurgery and they don't 1134 00:55:07,782 --> 00:55:08,870 choose the other options-- 1135 00:55:09,001 --> 00:55:10,132 There is nothing else to offer them. 1136 00:55:10,263 --> 00:55:11,003 Nothing, yeah. 1137 00:55:13,875 --> 00:55:16,530 We don't like hemimandibulectomies 1138 00:55:16,661 --> 00:55:19,968 where you remove the whole jaw. 1139 00:55:20,099 --> 00:55:22,710 Unless it's the only thingthat can save a dog's life. 1140 00:55:22,841 --> 00:55:24,886 This one I would actually consider, 1141 00:55:25,017 --> 00:55:27,062 but I know you don't want to go there. 1142 00:55:27,193 --> 00:55:28,281 If he will-- 1143 00:55:28,412 --> 00:55:29,238 I mean, I had made the decision 1144 00:55:29,369 --> 00:55:31,284 not to take the tumor out. 1145 00:55:31,415 --> 00:55:33,199 I didn't want to have the surgery. 1146 00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:34,461 And I didn't want him to be deformed. 1147 00:55:34,592 --> 00:55:35,810 And I didn't want him to go through the pain. 1148 00:55:35,941 --> 00:55:38,770 Yeah, the thing that makes this tough 1149 00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:43,601 is the location and thesize and the firmness of it. 1150 00:55:43,731 --> 00:55:45,429 All of this cancer I know I can freeze 1151 00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:46,604 and the body will reject it. 1152 00:55:46,734 --> 00:55:48,170 It's what's growing inside the jaw. 1153 00:55:48,301 --> 00:55:50,521 Yeah, it's this onehere and getting exposure. 1154 00:55:50,651 --> 00:55:53,437 I'm sure at least one or two of the teeth, 1155 00:55:53,567 --> 00:55:55,961 at least are going to have tocome out to give me exposure. 1156 00:55:56,091 --> 00:55:57,615 We don't care about thatas long as he has the jaw. 1157 00:55:57,745 --> 00:55:58,485 Yeah. 1158 00:55:58,616 --> 00:55:59,486 It's like a gamble. 1159 00:55:59,617 --> 00:56:01,270 It's like a 50/50 shot pretty much. 1160 00:56:01,401 --> 00:56:04,056 It's probably less than that. 1161 00:56:04,186 --> 00:56:06,537 But would nutritionalsupplements let it grow slower 1162 00:56:06,667 --> 00:56:10,976 maybe or stop it from growing? 1163 00:56:11,106 --> 00:56:13,413 I don't think so. 1164 00:56:13,544 --> 00:56:15,633 This is a tough one. 1165 00:56:15,763 --> 00:56:18,853 And if we elect to do cryo,it's gonna be a long haul. 1166 00:56:18,984 --> 00:56:19,767 OK. 1167 00:56:19,898 --> 00:56:21,595 OK. 1168 00:56:21,726 --> 00:56:22,727 I got to sleep on it, I guess. 1169 00:56:22,857 --> 00:56:25,077 Yeah, a lot to think about. 1170 00:56:25,207 --> 00:56:26,644 We will. 1171 00:56:26,774 --> 00:56:27,514 It was a pleasure. 1172 00:56:27,645 --> 00:56:28,385 Yeah. 1173 00:56:31,126 --> 00:56:31,866 Pie-poo. 1174 00:56:41,789 --> 00:56:45,053 He's been to five veterinarians. 1175 00:56:45,184 --> 00:56:51,669 And no one ever mentionedthat before, except a stranger 1176 00:56:51,799 --> 00:56:52,931 in the park, the dog park. 1177 00:56:58,240 --> 00:56:59,546 Because I could havebeen here two months ago. 1178 00:57:11,471 --> 00:57:15,127 Because it was so extensive at that point, 1179 00:57:15,257 --> 00:57:19,653 the family decided to give Peteythe best life that they could 1180 00:57:19,784 --> 00:57:22,351 for whatever time he had left without 1181 00:57:22,482 --> 00:57:24,963 any surgical intervention. 1182 00:57:25,093 --> 00:57:26,443 He didn't suffer. 1183 00:57:26,573 --> 00:57:28,706 And when it was time, they put him to sleep. 1184 00:57:31,926 --> 00:57:33,058 You just never know how you're going 1185 00:57:33,188 --> 00:57:35,408 to handle a situation until you are 1186 00:57:35,539 --> 00:57:37,236 the one who's actually in it. 1187 00:57:37,366 --> 00:57:43,111 And I certainly-- I certainly don't 1188 00:57:43,242 --> 00:57:46,114 think that it would be fair orright to judge that they should 1189 00:57:46,245 --> 00:57:49,901 have done anything differently. 1190 00:57:50,031 --> 00:57:51,250 Scooby is ready to go back. 1191 00:57:56,603 --> 00:57:57,909 What, baby, what? 1192 00:57:58,039 --> 00:57:59,040 Tell mama. 1193 00:57:59,171 --> 00:58:00,389 What's ailing you? 1194 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,000 You'll be OK. 1195 00:58:02,130 --> 00:58:03,175 Yes, you'll be OK. 1196 00:58:03,871 --> 00:58:06,047 I know. 1197 00:58:06,178 --> 00:58:09,355 Scooby is another patient that 1198 00:58:09,486 --> 00:58:11,792 came in with a poor prognosis. 1199 00:58:11,923 --> 00:58:14,969 The case is very, very similar to Petey. 1200 00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:18,277 And the owners came here looking for cryosurgery. 1201 00:58:18,407 --> 00:58:20,105 And they got here just in time. 1202 00:58:20,235 --> 00:58:20,975 OK. 1203 00:58:23,761 --> 00:58:26,590 Scooby's tumor is getting worse. 1204 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,505 He's not eating much. 1205 00:58:28,635 --> 00:58:32,247 In five days, he probably ate two times. 1206 00:58:32,378 --> 00:58:34,946 His original veterinariantold me that he 1207 00:58:35,076 --> 00:58:36,295 had about four months to live. 1208 00:58:50,265 --> 00:58:57,446 This is our tank of liquid nitrogen. 1209 00:58:57,577 --> 00:59:00,667 Liquid nitrogen can get downto minus 99 degrees centigrade. 1210 00:59:04,018 --> 00:59:05,542 Kind of feel like. 1211 00:59:08,980 --> 00:59:09,720 Yeah. 1212 00:59:14,115 --> 00:59:14,551 Stay clear. 1213 00:59:17,815 --> 00:59:20,818 Cryosurgery is not a sterile surgery. 1214 00:59:20,948 --> 00:59:22,646 We don't have to go into the sterile room. 1215 00:59:22,776 --> 00:59:26,214 And I can just wear a scrub suit. 1216 00:59:30,610 --> 00:59:31,698 Wow. 1217 00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:33,613 There is a lot more involved here 1218 00:59:33,744 --> 00:59:36,442 than we originally thought. 1219 00:59:36,573 --> 00:59:41,839 And approaching it is going to be difficult. 1220 00:59:41,969 --> 00:59:43,710 Once they start to freeze, it freezes 1221 00:59:43,841 --> 00:59:45,016 quickly because it's so cold. 1222 00:59:52,676 --> 00:59:55,461 You can see all the freezing going on. 1223 00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:58,072 Can you see it, thefreezing travelling down. 1224 00:59:58,203 --> 00:59:58,943 Yeah, wow. 1225 00:59:59,073 --> 01:00:01,772 It's amazing? 1226 01:00:01,902 --> 01:00:03,948 When I first heard about cryosurgery, 1227 01:00:04,078 --> 01:00:07,299 I thought that it soundedbarbaric and crazy. 1228 01:00:07,429 --> 01:00:11,477 And how could you freeze these tumors? 1229 01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:16,177 And wait, the dog eats the same night? 1230 01:00:16,308 --> 01:00:18,832 Hasn't eaten in two weeks,and all of a sudden you 1231 01:00:18,963 --> 01:00:21,530 freeze the tumor and they eat that night 1232 01:00:21,661 --> 01:00:25,099 and doesn't need a tremendousamount of pain medication. 1233 01:00:25,230 --> 01:00:29,930 And, like, it's crazy. 1234 01:00:30,061 --> 01:00:32,803 It's getting all the way down to there. 1235 01:00:32,933 --> 01:00:34,065 Wow. 1236 01:00:34,195 --> 01:00:36,589 In general, as great as cryosurgery is, 1237 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,547 surgery does not cure cancer. 1238 01:00:38,678 --> 01:00:42,639 It removes a symptom of immune deficiency. 1239 01:00:42,769 --> 01:00:44,989 This is going to hopefully save the jaw, 1240 01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:49,950 buy us time so the nutritionalsupplements will work. 1241 01:00:50,081 --> 01:00:51,691 In all likelihood, Marty, 1242 01:00:51,822 --> 01:00:53,475 he's going to need more than one procedure? 1243 01:00:53,606 --> 01:00:56,130 Yeah. 1244 01:00:56,261 --> 01:00:57,392 Yeah, we're out. 1245 01:01:04,443 --> 01:01:07,925 Scooby, how is he doing? 1246 01:01:08,055 --> 01:01:10,275 He's wide awake in the cage. 1247 01:01:10,405 --> 01:01:12,103 Now we got to see. 1248 01:01:12,233 --> 01:01:14,845 Because the only thing we don'thave with cancer is prediction. 1249 01:01:14,975 --> 01:01:18,544 We have to monitor them like a hawk. 1250 01:01:18,675 --> 01:01:22,113 If he's going to growback cancer in two weeks, 1251 01:01:22,243 --> 01:01:23,462 there's not much we're going to do, not with the way 1252 01:01:23,592 --> 01:01:25,507 I froze it. 1253 01:01:25,638 --> 01:01:27,814 And if this is a fibrous tumor, it could 1254 01:01:27,945 --> 01:01:29,903 come back with a vengeance. 1255 01:01:30,034 --> 01:01:30,687 We just don't know. 1256 01:01:36,388 --> 01:01:39,260 I know you were worried aboutit, but he did really well. 1257 01:01:39,391 --> 01:01:42,524 Aw. 1258 01:01:42,655 --> 01:01:46,180 I'll just be there to see you, guys. 1259 01:01:46,311 --> 01:01:49,401 He makes it look like.. 1260 01:01:49,531 --> 01:01:51,446 Tell mom. 1261 01:01:51,577 --> 01:01:52,404 You're gonna be OK. 1262 01:02:11,162 --> 01:02:13,120 So we're here today for Scooby's 1263 01:02:13,251 --> 01:02:15,340 recheck with Dr. Marty. 1264 01:02:15,470 --> 01:02:18,299 He has gained three pounds. 1265 01:02:18,430 --> 01:02:19,692 He's energetic. 1266 01:02:19,823 --> 01:02:24,436 He's a lot stronger than hewas before the operation. 1267 01:02:24,566 --> 01:02:25,306 He's running. 1268 01:02:25,437 --> 01:02:28,440 He's back to his old self. 1269 01:02:28,570 --> 01:02:30,224 Just eating is a bit of a problem. 1270 01:02:30,355 --> 01:02:33,793 But Dr. Marty suggested toget a Boston Market chicken. 1271 01:02:33,924 --> 01:02:35,229 And that did the trick. 1272 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,756 And he eats one everyday, 1 and 1/2 sometimes. 1273 01:02:39,886 --> 01:02:42,671 The surgery site is right here. 1274 01:02:42,802 --> 01:02:43,934 And they removed his tooth. 1275 01:02:46,850 --> 01:02:49,983 And Dr. Marty doesn't wantus to clean the wound site. 1276 01:02:50,114 --> 01:02:52,899 He wants the bacteria in there so the body fights 1277 01:02:53,030 --> 01:02:56,642 harder to fight off the cancer. 1278 01:02:56,773 --> 01:03:00,994 So everything you would think todo, you're not supposed to do. 1279 01:03:01,125 --> 01:03:04,781 He just gave him two homeopathic shots. 1280 01:03:04,911 --> 01:03:07,435 So he said that shouldgive him even more energy. 1281 01:03:07,566 --> 01:03:09,263 So I guess he's OK. 1282 01:03:09,394 --> 01:03:11,396 And he bounces back. 1283 01:03:11,526 --> 01:03:12,266 It's all worth it. 1284 01:03:31,459 --> 01:03:31,895 Yes. 1285 01:03:35,333 --> 01:03:39,337 I got invitedby the Integrative Veterinary 1286 01:03:39,467 --> 01:03:45,691 Medicine Club to give apresentation at, of all places, 1287 01:03:45,822 --> 01:03:49,216 my alma mater, Cornell. 1288 01:03:49,347 --> 01:03:54,178 So this time, I'll talk to the next generation. 1289 01:03:54,308 --> 01:03:57,746 And I'm hoping those new vets coming out 1290 01:03:57,877 --> 01:04:02,229 will start to spread this word. 1291 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,623 The days of paper. 1292 01:04:04,753 --> 01:04:07,800 I mean, I haven't seenthese folders in umpteen years. 1293 01:04:07,931 --> 01:04:08,757 You want to do the cryo? 1294 01:04:08,888 --> 01:04:09,758 You want to do the cancer? 1295 01:04:09,889 --> 01:04:11,630 You want to do the nutrition? 1296 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,198 Abigail, I want to dobecause that was verified. 1297 01:04:14,328 --> 01:04:16,591 You should definitely talk about this one. 1298 01:04:16,722 --> 01:04:18,724 You ran this case? 1299 01:04:18,855 --> 01:04:19,943 This was the mast cell tumor they 1300 01:04:20,073 --> 01:04:21,161 wanted to amputate the leg. 1301 01:04:21,292 --> 01:04:22,989 We did cryosurgery. 1302 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,601 And then she lived to like I think 16 or 17. 1303 01:04:26,732 --> 01:04:30,344 Wow, that's a great cancer case. 1304 01:04:30,475 --> 01:04:33,043 Lyme disease, renal failure. 1305 01:04:33,173 --> 01:04:34,522 Do we have anything with the nutrition? 1306 01:04:34,653 --> 01:04:35,610 Brutus. 1307 01:04:35,741 --> 01:04:36,960 - Aw. - Brute. 1308 01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:38,526 He was diagnosed with Cushing's 1309 01:04:38,657 --> 01:04:44,184 when he was 18 months old, oneof the youngest I've ever seen. 1310 01:04:44,315 --> 01:04:46,447 And we got him to almost 17. 1311 01:04:46,578 --> 01:04:48,058 Yeah. 1312 01:04:48,188 --> 01:04:48,928 Who is that? 1313 01:04:49,059 --> 01:04:50,321 Thea. 1314 01:04:50,451 --> 01:04:51,888 Thea. 1315 01:04:52,018 --> 01:04:53,933 She was the catthat looked like Jay Leno. 1316 01:04:54,064 --> 01:04:56,022 She was 4 and 1/2 years old. 1317 01:04:56,153 --> 01:04:58,590 Every joint in her body was fused. 1318 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,419 This was literally living rigor mortis. 1319 01:05:01,549 --> 01:05:03,464 And one injection of a homeopathic remedy, 1320 01:05:03,595 --> 01:05:05,249 and two hours later she was normal. 1321 01:05:05,379 --> 01:05:07,077 And then she lived to like 14--MEG: My god. 1322 01:05:07,207 --> 01:05:08,426 14 and 1/2. 1323 01:05:08,556 --> 01:05:10,297 Yeah, why don't you makea pile, so that's a given? 1324 01:05:10,428 --> 01:05:11,255 Yeah. 1325 01:05:11,385 --> 01:05:11,820 So that you can later on make notes. 1326 01:05:11,951 --> 01:05:12,169 That's a good idea. 1327 01:05:17,609 --> 01:05:18,653 Waffles is back. 1328 01:05:18,784 --> 01:05:19,524 Waffles. 1329 01:05:27,010 --> 01:05:28,533 He's unsteady on his feet. 1330 01:05:28,663 --> 01:05:30,665 And he's not drinking or eating. 1331 01:05:30,796 --> 01:05:31,928 When she gets her up in the morning, 1332 01:05:32,058 --> 01:05:33,581 she kind of has to like let him balance 1333 01:05:33,712 --> 01:05:35,192 out before they start walking. 1334 01:05:36,367 --> 01:05:37,411 OK. 1335 01:05:37,542 --> 01:05:39,326 All right. 1336 01:05:39,457 --> 01:05:40,632 Sweetheart, let's see. 1337 01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:47,987 So we have a bit of drama with Waffles. 1338 01:05:48,118 --> 01:05:48,857 He's pretty weak. 1339 01:05:48,988 --> 01:05:50,076 He looks pale. 1340 01:05:50,207 --> 01:05:53,166 He's jaundiced. 1341 01:05:53,297 --> 01:05:55,429 It's either some sort of autoimmune thing 1342 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,128 that's happening, a possiblevaccine reaction that's 1343 01:05:58,258 --> 01:06:01,914 ongoing, or his blastomycosis,which has been knocking him 1344 01:06:02,045 --> 01:06:05,570 off his feet for months now. 1345 01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:07,050 All right, sweetie pie. 1346 01:06:07,180 --> 01:06:07,964 All right, you can go back in with your mom. 1347 01:06:23,022 --> 01:06:24,589 is that his blood spinning, Cath, 1348 01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:25,807 or his is running in the machine? 1349 01:06:25,938 --> 01:06:26,721 His should be running. 1350 01:06:26,852 --> 01:06:27,592 OK. 1351 01:06:37,471 --> 01:06:39,908 He's a moving target. 1352 01:06:40,039 --> 01:06:41,432 Dr. Jenna, line one. 1353 01:06:46,306 --> 01:06:48,004 It's bizarre. 1354 01:06:48,134 --> 01:06:49,962 He is severely anemic right now. 1355 01:06:57,056 --> 01:06:58,971 Wendy, Wendy, can you let her know 1356 01:06:59,102 --> 01:07:00,625 that I have an emergency here,so it's going to be a wait. 1357 01:07:05,630 --> 01:07:08,328 His red blood cells are reading at 20%. 1358 01:07:08,459 --> 01:07:10,026 OK, but that's a good thing? 1359 01:07:10,156 --> 01:07:11,549 They should be at least 30%. 1360 01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:13,290 OK. 1361 01:07:13,420 --> 01:07:14,595 And I think that we're goingto have to bite the bullet 1362 01:07:14,726 --> 01:07:16,119 and do a blood transfusion. 1363 01:07:16,249 --> 01:07:18,599 Then we can decide what to do from there, 1364 01:07:18,730 --> 01:07:20,427 depending on his response. 1365 01:07:20,558 --> 01:07:22,299 But blood is not somethingwe have in the hospital. 1366 01:07:22,429 --> 01:07:24,127 We have to go and get it from another hospital. 1367 01:07:24,257 --> 01:07:26,346 So I'm going to try to call around 1368 01:07:26,477 --> 01:07:27,869 to see who could give us blood. 1369 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,177 Because we don't have a lot of time here. 1370 01:07:31,308 --> 01:07:33,745 You think he'sstrong enough to withstand it? 1371 01:07:33,875 --> 01:07:37,662 Yeah, I've seen a couple ofdogs that I look in their eyes 1372 01:07:37,792 --> 01:07:39,055 and they're quitting. 1373 01:07:39,185 --> 01:07:40,143 But most of them fight. 1374 01:07:40,273 --> 01:07:42,101 And they're willing to keep trying. 1375 01:07:42,232 --> 01:07:45,061 And he's trying, so Iwon't give up until Waffles 1376 01:07:45,191 --> 01:07:46,758 tells me to give up. 1377 01:07:46,888 --> 01:07:47,715 All right. 1378 01:07:47,846 --> 01:07:48,586 OK. 1379 01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:54,505 Dr. Ruskin here has determinedthat he needs a transfusion. 1380 01:07:54,635 --> 01:07:57,464 Then she asked me to callto see if you have a unit 1381 01:07:57,595 --> 01:07:59,597 of blood cells. 1382 01:07:59,727 --> 01:08:01,381 One of our doctors hasdetermined that our patient 1383 01:08:01,512 --> 01:08:02,991 needs a blood transfusion. 1384 01:08:03,122 --> 01:08:04,080 And she's having us call around and see 1385 01:08:04,210 --> 01:08:05,820 if we can get that for him. 1386 01:08:05,951 --> 01:08:07,344 We don't have any blood here. 1387 01:08:07,474 --> 01:08:09,737 That's why we're calling you guys. 1388 01:08:09,868 --> 01:08:10,608 Yes. 1389 01:08:14,090 --> 01:08:15,352 Apparently, all the blood banks 1390 01:08:15,482 --> 01:08:16,353 are on back order and stuff. 1391 01:08:16,483 --> 01:08:17,919 Yeah, all right. 1392 01:08:18,050 --> 01:08:19,182 I don't really have enough time. 1393 01:08:23,011 --> 01:08:24,448 We're gonna have to. 1394 01:08:24,578 --> 01:08:26,667 But I think that's ouronly choice at this point. 1395 01:08:26,798 --> 01:08:28,930 This is crazy. 1396 01:08:29,061 --> 01:08:30,236 All right, who had blood? 1397 01:08:30,367 --> 01:08:31,237 Newtown had blood? 1398 01:08:31,368 --> 01:08:33,500 Newtown has one unit. 1399 01:08:33,631 --> 01:08:35,546 So why don't we go there. 1400 01:08:35,676 --> 01:08:37,287 OK, so I should just go. 1401 01:08:37,417 --> 01:08:38,418 - Just go there. - OK. 1402 01:08:38,549 --> 01:08:39,289 All right. 1403 01:08:45,425 --> 01:08:47,340 Well, hopefully this is going to do it today. 1404 01:09:24,334 --> 01:09:27,293 After the blood transfusion, I went back 1405 01:09:27,424 --> 01:09:30,166 to the emergency room the next morning, 1406 01:09:30,296 --> 01:09:34,126 bringing him his food which I made up. 1407 01:09:34,257 --> 01:09:37,216 I deliver it there at 6 o'clock. 1408 01:09:37,347 --> 01:09:41,655 And they came in, they broughthim in, and he was yellow. 1409 01:09:41,786 --> 01:09:43,614 He was absolutely yellow. 1410 01:09:43,744 --> 01:09:47,052 And I was horrified. 1411 01:09:47,183 --> 01:09:50,882 And that's when they had thediscussion with me, well, 1412 01:09:51,012 --> 01:09:54,929 you know, you got yourself a lemon here. 1413 01:09:55,060 --> 01:09:58,194 And following that was thediscussion that he would be 1414 01:09:58,324 --> 01:09:59,978 lame for the rest of this life. 1415 01:10:00,108 --> 01:10:05,418 And Dave and I should give somethought to putting him down. 1416 01:10:05,549 --> 01:10:07,420 Come on, you want to sit in the sun? 1417 01:10:07,551 --> 01:10:10,684 So I called Smith Ridge, 1418 01:10:10,815 --> 01:10:14,471 and Dr. Ruskin said we needto give him a few days. 1419 01:10:14,601 --> 01:10:16,603 Let me take a look at him. 1420 01:10:16,734 --> 01:10:20,303 And if he keeps on fighting,I'll keep fighting with him. 1421 01:10:47,243 --> 01:10:48,809 Boy, you were hungry. 1422 01:10:54,554 --> 01:10:56,252 Are you ready to go to work? 1423 01:11:05,522 --> 01:11:08,873 Look at his ears, you know? 1424 01:11:09,003 --> 01:11:10,266 Look how alert he is. 1425 01:11:10,396 --> 01:11:11,136 Yeah. 1426 01:11:13,443 --> 01:11:14,313 Yes. 1427 01:11:14,444 --> 01:11:15,923 Yes, who loves you? 1428 01:11:16,054 --> 01:11:16,620 Who loves you? 1429 01:11:16,750 --> 01:11:17,490 Yes. 1430 01:11:33,245 --> 01:11:33,985 Come on. 1431 01:11:40,034 --> 01:11:41,514 What? 1432 01:11:41,645 --> 01:11:42,515 Come on. 1433 01:11:42,646 --> 01:11:43,386 What? 1434 01:11:43,516 --> 01:11:44,822 You're like a normal dog. 1435 01:11:47,259 --> 01:11:48,129 He is back to the way he was. 1436 01:11:48,260 --> 01:11:49,000 Hey, Waffles. 1437 01:11:49,130 --> 01:11:49,870 Yeah. 1438 01:11:50,001 --> 01:11:51,307 That's amazing. 1439 01:11:51,437 --> 01:11:53,047 Isn't that nice? 1440 01:11:53,178 --> 01:11:55,659 He's playing, he's eating on his own. 1441 01:11:55,789 --> 01:11:58,052 Aw. 1442 01:11:58,183 --> 01:11:59,140 Kisses, yeah. 1443 01:11:59,271 --> 01:12:01,969 You little fighter, you. 1444 01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:03,319 My god. 1445 01:12:03,449 --> 01:12:05,669 It's so great to see thattail wagging, get a kiss. 1446 01:12:05,799 --> 01:12:10,195 My god, those kisses areworth a million dollars to me. 1447 01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:11,457 Waffles. 1448 01:12:11,588 --> 01:12:14,417 You did so good. 1449 01:12:14,547 --> 01:12:17,768 You're the moocher now. 1450 01:12:17,898 --> 01:12:18,986 Good boy. 1451 01:12:19,117 --> 01:12:20,988 All right, so we just gotta check his blood, 1452 01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:23,991 see if that's alsofollowing everything else 1453 01:12:24,122 --> 01:12:25,906 great that we're seeing here. 1454 01:12:26,037 --> 01:12:26,472 We'll be back. 1455 01:12:34,915 --> 01:12:36,352 Look who's here. 1456 01:12:36,482 --> 01:12:37,527 Yes, I know. 1457 01:12:37,657 --> 01:12:39,050 He's so much bigger. I know, look at this. 1458 01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:39,746 - No ribs! - Look at this. 1459 01:12:39,877 --> 01:12:41,052 No ribs. 1460 01:12:44,447 --> 01:12:46,100 Just PCB/CBC? 1461 01:12:46,231 --> 01:12:48,973 PCB/CBC, yeah. 1462 01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:52,019 Good news, 36. 1463 01:12:52,150 --> 01:12:54,370 36. 1464 01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:56,981 36. 1465 01:12:57,111 --> 01:12:58,286 He's in the normal range. 1466 01:12:58,417 --> 01:13:00,027 - Is it? - Yes. 1467 01:13:00,158 --> 01:13:00,767 All right. 1468 01:13:05,685 --> 01:13:08,427 My god, here come the tears again. 1469 01:13:08,558 --> 01:13:10,168 Here, this boy. 1470 01:13:10,298 --> 01:13:12,605 OK, 36. 1471 01:13:12,736 --> 01:13:16,217 And everything is going, justblossoming into a puppy again. 1472 01:13:19,699 --> 01:13:20,831 You're only going home with one new thing. 1473 01:13:20,961 --> 01:13:22,485 What is it? The BH? 1474 01:13:22,615 --> 01:13:23,660 Yep, that's you're one new thing. 1475 01:13:23,790 --> 01:13:25,226 Yeah, that's you're one new thing. 1476 01:13:25,357 --> 01:13:27,228 I'll give you a little bit. 1477 01:13:27,359 --> 01:13:28,708 Because it's a homeopathic. 1478 01:13:28,839 --> 01:13:30,188 It absorbs into the gums. 1479 01:13:30,318 --> 01:13:32,146 So yeah, 20 months before and after food. 1480 01:13:32,277 --> 01:13:33,017 Got it. 1481 01:13:33,147 --> 01:13:35,498 All righty. 1482 01:13:35,628 --> 01:13:37,630 How cute. 1483 01:13:37,761 --> 01:13:39,415 Well, I know it's alittle big for him, but-- 1484 01:13:39,545 --> 01:13:40,285 He'll grow into it. 1485 01:13:40,416 --> 01:13:43,331 Scooby is ready to go back. 1486 01:13:43,462 --> 01:13:44,811 Hi, buddy. 1487 01:13:47,771 --> 01:13:51,339 He acts like there's nothing wrong with him. 1488 01:13:51,470 --> 01:13:55,213 Still doing two walks a day, two long walks. 1489 01:13:55,343 --> 01:13:56,867 He wants to go to Home Depot. 1490 01:13:56,997 --> 01:13:58,825 He wants to go to the super market. 1491 01:13:58,956 --> 01:14:00,392 He just wants to go out the door. 1492 01:14:00,523 --> 01:14:01,349 Yeah, he wants to live. 1493 01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:03,090 Yeah. 1494 01:14:03,221 --> 01:14:03,830 Look how big it got. 1495 01:14:08,269 --> 01:14:08,966 He's such a good boy. 1496 01:14:09,096 --> 01:14:12,448 Who's a good boy? 1497 01:14:12,578 --> 01:14:14,580 It's that and it'ssomething in the back as well. 1498 01:14:14,711 --> 01:14:15,451 OK. 1499 01:14:19,846 --> 01:14:23,154 Well, we have recurrencehere, a little over there. 1500 01:14:23,284 --> 01:14:24,547 Yeah. 1501 01:14:24,677 --> 01:14:26,113 But for a bone tumor six months later-- 1502 01:14:26,244 --> 01:14:27,288 That's incredible. 1503 01:14:27,419 --> 01:14:29,073 It's beyond. 1504 01:14:29,203 --> 01:14:33,381 And his lymph nodes, which werehuge when we first started, 1505 01:14:33,512 --> 01:14:34,731 I can barely palpate them now. 1506 01:14:34,861 --> 01:14:35,906 I know. 1507 01:14:36,036 --> 01:14:36,776 I didn't feel it either. 1508 01:14:36,907 --> 01:14:37,690 I thought the same thing. 1509 01:14:37,821 --> 01:14:38,648 Here, amazing. 1510 01:14:38,778 --> 01:14:40,301 Wait a minute, where is it? 1511 01:14:40,432 --> 01:14:41,172 How is that possible? 1512 01:14:41,302 --> 01:14:42,956 It's remarkable. 1513 01:14:43,087 --> 01:14:46,525 Not cured, but phenomenal. 1514 01:14:46,656 --> 01:14:47,395 I'm going to cryo. 1515 01:14:55,882 --> 01:14:57,144 Meow. 1516 01:14:57,275 --> 01:14:58,015 Meow. 1517 01:15:03,281 --> 01:15:06,066 What I always say is that stability 1518 01:15:06,197 --> 01:15:10,767 in the face of expected declineis actually improvement. 1519 01:15:10,897 --> 01:15:15,032 Metastatic bone cancer, if youlook in the references, weeks 1520 01:15:15,162 --> 01:15:16,163 to live. 1521 01:15:16,294 --> 01:15:19,515 We're going over half a year. 1522 01:15:19,645 --> 01:15:22,300 He had one major cryo the first time. 1523 01:15:22,430 --> 01:15:25,956 He had a very tiny touchup I think six weeks later. 1524 01:15:26,086 --> 01:15:28,785 And now this is the third. 1525 01:15:28,915 --> 01:15:31,004 People say, well, that's a lot of surgeries. 1526 01:15:31,135 --> 01:15:34,791 But when you realize, typicalradiation therapy for cancer 1527 01:15:34,921 --> 01:15:39,709 could be 16 to 25 radiations every day 1528 01:15:39,839 --> 01:15:42,189 for four or five weeks under general anesthesia 1529 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,930 for 30 or 40 minutes. 1530 01:15:44,061 --> 01:15:47,325 So four anesthetic proceduresover six or seven months 1531 01:15:47,455 --> 01:15:49,153 is not that bad. 1532 01:15:49,283 --> 01:15:51,068 It's less invasive. 1533 01:15:51,198 --> 01:15:53,549 It's usually less bleeding. 1534 01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:56,769 It usually requires less anesthetic. 1535 01:15:56,900 --> 01:16:00,991 We do a lot of tumors undera local where normally they'd 1536 01:16:01,121 --> 01:16:04,516 have to be put under anaesthesiafor 45 minutes to cut it out. 1537 01:16:04,647 --> 01:16:06,605 It's the only form of surgerythat's known to be immune 1538 01:16:06,736 --> 01:16:11,523 stimulating, tissue sparing. 1539 01:16:11,654 --> 01:16:13,656 Why this is not standard operating 1540 01:16:13,786 --> 01:16:17,007 procedure in all thehospitals in the United States 1541 01:16:17,137 --> 01:16:19,575 is beyond me. 1542 01:16:19,705 --> 01:16:23,100 The other good thing about it is his quality 1543 01:16:23,230 --> 01:16:25,537 of life is so amazing. 1544 01:16:25,668 --> 01:16:26,103 And that's what it's about. 1545 01:16:29,019 --> 01:16:32,065 But I want to save thesebiopsies because somewhere 1546 01:16:32,196 --> 01:16:37,244 along the line, sometotally conventionally based 1547 01:16:37,375 --> 01:16:40,465 veterinarian will say that itwas probably missed diagnosed 1548 01:16:40,596 --> 01:16:41,509 and never was a cancer. 1549 01:16:45,296 --> 01:16:46,732 Kiss, kiss, kiss. 1550 01:16:46,863 --> 01:16:47,951 Yeah? 1551 01:16:48,081 --> 01:16:49,213 OK. 1552 01:16:49,343 --> 01:16:51,128 Do I get a kiss, too? 1553 01:16:51,258 --> 01:16:52,216 Give your mommy a kiss. 1554 01:16:52,346 --> 01:16:54,566 Do I get kisses? 1555 01:16:54,697 --> 01:16:56,612 Only daddy gets kisses? 1556 01:16:56,742 --> 01:16:59,179 No, are you kidding me? 1557 01:16:59,310 --> 01:17:00,746 All right, how are we going? 1558 01:17:11,148 --> 01:17:13,890 People are always like, howmuch is this going to cost you? 1559 01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:16,588 Or just euthanize, euthanize,I said you take him, 1560 01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:18,242 you look at him in the eyes. 1561 01:17:18,372 --> 01:17:20,200 And you want to euthanize him? 1562 01:17:20,331 --> 01:17:24,248 No, no, no, he looks good,even his fur looks really good. 1563 01:17:24,378 --> 01:17:25,945 It starts looking good right away. 1564 01:17:30,907 --> 01:17:32,212 He's been through a lot of surgeries. 1565 01:17:32,343 --> 01:17:34,040 But he bounces back. 1566 01:17:34,171 --> 01:17:36,173 Two days later, he's jumping in the lake. 1567 01:17:36,303 --> 01:17:39,002 He's not suffering at all. 1568 01:17:39,132 --> 01:17:40,220 That's why we're doing what we're doing. 1569 01:17:40,351 --> 01:17:43,310 Because he's really showingthat he's got that strength 1570 01:17:43,441 --> 01:17:44,529 in him, that he's fighting. 1571 01:17:49,447 --> 01:17:53,103 When his original vet saidfour months, he's going to die, 1572 01:17:53,233 --> 01:17:57,150 I just thought that therewas nothing we could do. 1573 01:17:57,281 --> 01:18:00,284 And that was a year ago already. 1574 01:18:00,414 --> 01:18:03,113 He's gonna start tossing sand towards me. 1575 01:18:21,174 --> 01:18:22,872 Now what I'm going to do is I'm going to buzz 1576 01:18:23,002 --> 01:18:24,787 through the whole thing. 1577 01:18:24,917 --> 01:18:26,919 Do you want me to stop you if I see something 1578 01:18:27,050 --> 01:18:28,355 that I think should be out?- No, make notes. 1579 01:18:28,486 --> 01:18:29,269 Do you want me to make-- 1580 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:30,401 like, just go over it again. 1581 01:18:30,531 --> 01:18:31,968 Make notes and then we'll go over it later. 1582 01:18:32,098 --> 01:18:34,927 Because I want to kind of time it too. 1583 01:18:35,058 --> 01:18:37,408 Then stopwatch. 1584 01:18:37,538 --> 01:18:37,974 So you ready? 1585 01:18:38,104 --> 01:18:39,889 Yeah. 1586 01:18:40,019 --> 01:18:42,021 All right, let's get intosome real good stuff now. 1587 01:18:45,198 --> 01:18:49,072 This is a book about how the pyramids were built. 1588 01:18:49,202 --> 01:18:51,552 At the same time that this was done, 1589 01:18:51,683 --> 01:18:52,858 acupuncture was laid down. 1590 01:18:57,210 --> 01:19:02,563 Pet food, whole grain corn,whole grain wheat, the dogs 1591 01:19:02,694 --> 01:19:03,782 in nature eat at bakeries? 1592 01:19:08,134 --> 01:19:09,483 There's the tumor. 1593 01:19:09,614 --> 01:19:13,487 We infuse it with lidocaineor marcaine and we freeze it. 1594 01:19:13,618 --> 01:19:16,360 So cryosurgery is real medicine. 1595 01:19:16,490 --> 01:19:17,230 Stop. 1596 01:19:22,105 --> 01:19:23,497 You have to kind ofswitch gears a little bit. 1597 01:19:23,628 --> 01:19:26,109 You know, a lot of times you talked like you 1598 01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:28,459 were talking to like a general public, not 1599 01:19:28,589 --> 01:19:30,113 a veterinary student. 1600 01:19:30,243 --> 01:19:32,811 They want to know how you made this dog better 1601 01:19:32,942 --> 01:19:34,030 How did you make this cat better? 1602 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,206 And what did you specifically use? 1603 01:19:36,336 --> 01:19:38,599 I can't teach you integrativemedicine in 35 minutes. 1604 01:19:38,730 --> 01:19:41,037 But that's why I think youshould take three to four cases 1605 01:19:41,167 --> 01:19:42,865 and basically do a rundown. 1606 01:19:42,995 --> 01:19:44,736 Like with Thea, you did a great job 1607 01:19:44,867 --> 01:19:46,869 because you actually said I gave her 1608 01:19:46,999 --> 01:19:50,002 an injection, a homeopathicremedy called Zeel 1609 01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:51,177 and it worked. 1610 01:19:51,308 --> 01:19:53,136 The next three animals may not respond to Zeel. 1611 01:19:53,266 --> 01:19:54,528 But see, that's what you need to say. 1612 01:19:54,659 --> 01:19:55,965 What did you put them on? 1613 01:19:56,095 --> 01:19:58,141 Individual supplementation program 1614 01:19:58,271 --> 01:19:59,490 according to their blood work. 1615 01:19:59,620 --> 01:20:02,145 They are all individual, different animals. 1616 01:20:02,275 --> 01:20:04,625 They might not like that because when 1617 01:20:04,756 --> 01:20:08,716 they learn medicine, they arebeing taught everything works. 1618 01:20:08,847 --> 01:20:10,893 This drug will create this thing. 1619 01:20:11,023 --> 01:20:12,851 But you're proving itdoesn't, because they're all 1620 01:20:12,982 --> 01:20:15,375 coming in after being on drugs. 1621 01:20:15,506 --> 01:20:18,074 These dogs, yes, went throughall the antibiotic courses 1622 01:20:18,204 --> 01:20:19,597 that they were recommended. 1623 01:20:19,727 --> 01:20:21,077 They went on steroids. 1624 01:20:21,207 --> 01:20:22,382 They were on surgery list. 1625 01:20:22,513 --> 01:20:24,123 They were on this. 1626 01:20:24,254 --> 01:20:27,605 But now you have to show themthat why my therapy worked 1627 01:20:27,735 --> 01:20:28,911 is because I used this. 1628 01:20:44,056 --> 01:20:45,492 Hi, baby. 1629 01:20:45,623 --> 01:20:46,058 Here we go. 1630 01:20:50,758 --> 01:20:53,239 Hey, here we go. 1631 01:20:53,370 --> 01:20:53,936 Come on. 1632 01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:04,990 Mulligan is here for Dr. Goldstein. 1633 01:21:08,951 --> 01:21:10,909 This is Mulligan's results. 1634 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:18,438 Creatinine, last time it was 45. 1635 01:21:18,569 --> 01:21:19,700 Two points up. 1636 01:21:19,831 --> 01:21:20,310 Wait, is that good? 1637 01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:21,485 That's great. 1638 01:21:21,615 --> 01:21:22,355 It's gone down. 1639 01:21:22,486 --> 01:21:23,704 Yeah. 1640 01:21:23,835 --> 01:21:31,669 But the good one ishematocrit, 42 is normal, 1641 01:21:31,799 --> 01:21:36,543 and hemoglobin in the normal range. 1642 01:21:36,674 --> 01:21:41,374 It's the enigma, AKA Mulligan. 1643 01:21:41,505 --> 01:21:45,291 You know, I've gone back to our local vet 1644 01:21:45,422 --> 01:21:48,816 and told them about this. 1645 01:21:48,947 --> 01:21:53,082 And the particularsurgeon has been stunned. 1646 01:21:53,212 --> 01:21:55,345 She's really-- she just keepslooking at him and saying, 1647 01:21:55,475 --> 01:21:56,215 I can't get over-- 1648 01:21:56,346 --> 01:21:57,086 how could this happen? 1649 01:21:57,216 --> 01:21:59,218 He is fabulous. 1650 01:21:59,349 --> 01:22:02,569 We are responsibly addressinghis condition as well 1651 01:22:02,700 --> 01:22:05,746 as we can with no side effects. 1652 01:22:05,877 --> 01:22:07,923 She can be doing this too. 1653 01:22:08,053 --> 01:22:10,273 I, you know, I'm not just grateful. 1654 01:22:10,403 --> 01:22:13,754 I'm just like, I feel likeif ever he should fail, 1655 01:22:13,885 --> 01:22:15,365 I had all this gift. 1656 01:22:15,495 --> 01:22:16,975 It's really a gift. 1657 01:22:17,106 --> 01:22:18,237 No, now we're going into years. 1658 01:22:18,368 --> 01:22:19,108 Yeah. 1659 01:22:19,238 --> 01:22:20,109 Hey, Mull. 1660 01:22:20,239 --> 01:22:23,634 Hey, Mully, we're talking about you. 1661 01:22:23,764 --> 01:22:24,635 He thinks you're crazy. 1662 01:22:26,071 --> 01:22:28,117 He thinks you're crazy so he never 1663 01:22:28,247 --> 01:22:29,683 reacts to you appropriately. 1664 01:22:29,814 --> 01:22:31,076 Right, Mulligan. 1665 01:22:31,207 --> 01:22:32,121 Or maybe that is appropriate. 1666 01:22:43,306 --> 01:22:46,874 From the very firstsession, Dr. Marty didn't 1667 01:22:47,005 --> 01:22:48,920 say we can cure this dog. 1668 01:22:49,051 --> 01:22:51,053 He said he couldn't cure the dog. 1669 01:22:51,183 --> 01:22:54,621 But he said he could extend his wellness. 1670 01:22:54,752 --> 01:22:58,712 And by so doing, dog himself will 1671 01:22:58,843 --> 01:23:02,194 be able to work on his own problems 1672 01:23:02,325 --> 01:23:03,935 and hopefully get more life. 1673 01:23:07,504 --> 01:23:09,114 I'm not against anything holistic. 1674 01:23:09,245 --> 01:23:11,987 I just never had tried anything like that. 1675 01:23:12,117 --> 01:23:18,123 But his changes have been so visible. 1676 01:23:18,254 --> 01:23:23,128 Seeing the difference, I startedexploring this kind of concept 1677 01:23:23,259 --> 01:23:26,305 holistically for human beings where 1678 01:23:26,436 --> 01:23:30,005 they test blood and change everything 1679 01:23:30,135 --> 01:23:32,094 according to what you need. 1680 01:23:38,665 --> 01:23:40,145 I have the worst diet in the world. 1681 01:23:40,276 --> 01:23:45,672 I eat chocolate and Diet Pepsiand bacon and all of the above. 1682 01:23:45,803 --> 01:23:50,634 So I've scaled back on the kindsof not so good for you foods. 1683 01:23:50,764 --> 01:23:53,028 And then I started supplements. 1684 01:23:53,158 --> 01:23:55,900 And now I'm never tired. 1685 01:23:56,031 --> 01:23:58,555 I've lost a certain anxiety. 1686 01:23:58,685 --> 01:24:01,775 I'm much calmer. 1687 01:24:01,906 --> 01:24:02,646 But I still eat bacon. 1688 01:24:02,776 --> 01:24:03,473 I can't help it. 1689 01:24:13,265 --> 01:24:15,006 Does he seem better today? 1690 01:24:15,137 --> 01:24:17,661 I think he seems about the same. 1691 01:24:17,791 --> 01:24:18,531 As yesterday? 1692 01:24:18,662 --> 01:24:19,663 As yesterday. 1693 01:24:19,793 --> 01:24:20,533 Yeah. 1694 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,102 How's his kidney values? 1695 01:24:24,233 --> 01:24:25,538 Did they run more blood? 1696 01:24:25,669 --> 01:24:27,366 We haven't rechecked the values. 1697 01:24:27,497 --> 01:24:29,499 We're scheduled to do that this afternoon. 1698 01:24:29,629 --> 01:24:30,761 OK. 1699 01:24:30,891 --> 01:24:33,024 We'll try to keep him comfortable. 1700 01:24:46,603 --> 01:24:48,822 It's so surprising how it came on so fast. 1701 01:24:48,953 --> 01:24:51,477 Dr. Ruskin, I'm so upset. 1702 01:24:51,608 --> 01:24:53,871 Aw, honey. 1703 01:24:54,001 --> 01:24:54,872 I don't want to lose him. 1704 01:24:55,002 --> 01:24:55,742 I know it. 1705 01:24:55,873 --> 01:24:56,743 I know it. 1706 01:25:02,793 --> 01:25:04,447 All of this, you know, rightnow I think all of this 1707 01:25:04,577 --> 01:25:07,319 is secondary to kidney infection. 1708 01:25:07,450 --> 01:25:10,017 But for now, we're just kindof supporting him, flushing 1709 01:25:10,148 --> 01:25:11,454 him, keeping him hydrated. 1710 01:25:11,584 --> 01:25:12,977 You know, having a kidney infection 1711 01:25:13,108 --> 01:25:15,762 is really exhausting, painful. 1712 01:25:15,893 --> 01:25:19,418 It really throws your body into a tailspin. 1713 01:25:19,549 --> 01:25:22,726 You think we're at the point where, 1714 01:25:22,856 --> 01:25:26,077 well, you don't know whathis quality of life will be. 1715 01:25:26,208 --> 01:25:27,774 I don't know. 1716 01:25:27,905 --> 01:25:30,342 Yeah, I mean, if I can getthe infection under control, 1717 01:25:30,473 --> 01:25:33,389 he could pull through this and be fine. 1718 01:25:33,519 --> 01:25:37,001 If he continues to declinedespite what we're doing, 1719 01:25:37,132 --> 01:25:40,439 you know, then it's not good. 1720 01:25:40,570 --> 01:25:41,440 All right. 1721 01:25:41,571 --> 01:25:42,398 All right. 1722 01:25:48,404 --> 01:25:49,144 OK, stay right here. 1723 01:25:53,844 --> 01:25:54,671 Take your time. 1724 01:26:03,636 --> 01:26:06,073 You OK? 1725 01:26:06,204 --> 01:26:07,074 Take your time. 1726 01:26:07,205 --> 01:26:09,381 It's all right. 1727 01:26:09,512 --> 01:26:10,513 Oftentimes with patients, 1728 01:26:10,643 --> 01:26:12,950 they have a way of speakingto you and telling you 1729 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,300 that they're done fighting. 1730 01:26:15,431 --> 01:26:17,563 The body kind of makes the decision for you. 1731 01:26:17,694 --> 01:26:21,872 And you just know when you look at the pet. 1732 01:26:22,002 --> 01:26:23,656 The disease, the blastomycosis that he 1733 01:26:23,787 --> 01:26:26,877 has finally gained access to his kidneys 1734 01:26:27,007 --> 01:26:29,314 and caused kidney failure. 1735 01:26:29,445 --> 01:26:32,796 So we all sort of came to theconclusion at the same time 1736 01:26:32,926 --> 01:26:36,800 that it was time to stop trying. 1737 01:26:52,816 --> 01:26:55,471 I really do fall in love withevery patient that I have. 1738 01:26:55,601 --> 01:27:03,348 And letting them go is extremely difficult. 1739 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,047 Look at you standingthere like such a big girl. 1740 01:27:07,178 --> 01:27:09,572 You're so adorable. 1741 01:27:09,702 --> 01:27:13,445 There is definitelyan emotional connection. 1742 01:27:13,576 --> 01:27:16,143 It's hard to actually thinkabout how attached I get. 1743 01:27:21,627 --> 01:27:23,977 That's probably what makes me a good vet 1744 01:27:24,108 --> 01:27:25,327 and also what tortures me. 1745 01:27:28,591 --> 01:27:31,724 And I sometimes wish I would lose that quality 1746 01:27:31,855 --> 01:27:33,073 because it would be easier. 1747 01:27:33,204 --> 01:27:35,380 But I really don't want to. 1748 01:27:39,036 --> 01:27:40,864 Hi there, who's the best girl? 1749 01:27:40,994 --> 01:27:42,518 It's OK, love. 1750 01:27:42,648 --> 01:27:44,041 You'rethe one holding that life 1751 01:27:44,171 --> 01:27:45,564 and death in your hands. 1752 01:27:45,695 --> 01:27:49,307 And I know there are other oldervets that I know who actually 1753 01:27:49,438 --> 01:27:50,439 won't euthanize anymore. 1754 01:27:50,569 --> 01:27:52,789 They pass it off to their other associates 1755 01:27:52,919 --> 01:27:55,313 because it's too hard for them to do. 1756 01:27:55,444 --> 01:27:57,663 And I can understand that as well. 1757 01:27:57,794 --> 01:27:59,926 Year after year after year there is a toll. 1758 01:28:00,057 --> 01:28:02,929 And it's not just an injection, it is-- 1759 01:28:03,060 --> 01:28:06,237 there is a life and abeing and a consciousness. 1760 01:28:06,368 --> 01:28:09,284 And we're the ones left withthe aftermath and the pain 1761 01:28:09,414 --> 01:28:10,459 associated with that. 1762 01:28:10,589 --> 01:28:13,984 So that's probably the hardest part of my job. 1763 01:28:22,819 --> 01:28:24,908 The day Waffles passed, 1764 01:28:25,038 --> 01:28:31,306 Dr. Marty came in and spoke withus about the death of a pet. 1765 01:28:31,436 --> 01:28:34,396 While he was talking to us, I started 1766 01:28:34,526 --> 01:28:37,181 to think about all the other veterinarians who 1767 01:28:37,312 --> 01:28:40,140 said to me, where you're going is a load of crap. 1768 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,669 It's not an easy leap to make. 1769 01:28:46,799 --> 01:28:49,846 I think it's an easier leapif it involves a person. 1770 01:28:49,976 --> 01:28:52,239 But I think a lot of peoplehave a second thought 1771 01:28:52,370 --> 01:28:54,938 because they're like,well, it's just an animal. 1772 01:28:55,068 --> 01:28:59,377 But my opinion was that he was just a puppy 1773 01:28:59,508 --> 01:29:04,339 and he deserved to live his life. 1774 01:29:04,469 --> 01:29:06,602 All DrRuskin's patient, please. 1775 01:29:12,825 --> 01:29:14,827 Manyanimals that I've worked on, 1776 01:29:14,958 --> 01:29:21,312 we've taken past the pointof conventional medicine. 1777 01:29:21,443 --> 01:29:27,318 Even if they don't make it, whatI always say is in your heart 1778 01:29:27,449 --> 01:29:30,713 when you made that choice to try this, 1779 01:29:30,843 --> 01:29:35,500 you made it to do the best thing you could. 1780 01:29:35,631 --> 01:29:40,157 We try to get our patientsa better quality of life, 1781 01:29:40,287 --> 01:29:42,420 quantity usually accompanies quality. 1782 01:29:48,426 --> 01:29:50,776 A dog will come here with five weeks to live. 1783 01:29:50,907 --> 01:29:53,257 And we struggle, and we work, and we do cryo. 1784 01:29:53,388 --> 01:29:54,127 And we're on supplements. 1785 01:29:54,258 --> 01:29:57,043 And we're taking blood. 1786 01:29:57,174 --> 01:30:00,090 Two years later, the tumor isstill there and this and that, 1787 01:30:00,220 --> 01:30:03,006 and the people say, do you think it's working? 1788 01:30:03,136 --> 01:30:04,877 Yeah, he had five weeks to live two years ago. 1789 01:30:22,112 --> 01:30:22,982 There it is. 1790 01:30:23,113 --> 01:30:24,331 I love this pin. 1791 01:31:18,168 --> 01:31:21,911 So I used to sit here 48 years ago. 1792 01:31:22,041 --> 01:31:23,434 That was me, 1973. 1793 01:31:25,828 --> 01:31:28,831 Now there's 190 million registered cats 1794 01:31:28,961 --> 01:31:30,572 and dogs in the United States. 1795 01:31:30,702 --> 01:31:33,226 So we see many, many animals. 1796 01:31:33,357 --> 01:31:34,358 They come in young. 1797 01:31:34,489 --> 01:31:36,447 We do a minimal vaccine program. 1798 01:31:36,578 --> 01:31:37,796 We put them on a good diet. 1799 01:31:37,927 --> 01:31:38,971 When they're a year old, we take blood, 1800 01:31:39,102 --> 01:31:40,669 we put them on supplements. 1801 01:31:40,799 --> 01:31:45,935 And they'll live to 14, 16,18, and sometimes beyond that. 1802 01:31:46,065 --> 01:31:48,241 You want to be skeptical, you can. 1803 01:31:48,372 --> 01:31:51,636 But this is the future ofwhere our profession is going. 1804 01:31:51,767 --> 01:31:53,638 All right, let's cut to the chase. 1805 01:31:53,769 --> 01:31:57,033 Cryosurgery, this dog was referred to me. 1806 01:31:57,163 --> 01:32:00,906 And I asked the one oncologistwhat his prognosis was. 1807 01:32:01,037 --> 01:32:03,953 And he said probably five months. 1808 01:32:04,083 --> 01:32:06,782 That's me freezing the tumor. 1809 01:32:06,912 --> 01:32:11,090 Two weeks later, five weekslater, four and a half months. 1810 01:32:11,221 --> 01:32:13,223 That's seven and a half months. 1811 01:32:13,353 --> 01:32:14,833 Last thing we heard was the dog was 1812 01:32:14,964 --> 01:32:17,357 still alive eight years later. 1813 01:32:17,488 --> 01:32:20,578 The referring veterinarianreferred to me as a kook 1814 01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:22,798 when he found out about cryosurgery. 1815 01:32:22,928 --> 01:32:25,322 This is what I'm trying to break through. 1816 01:32:25,452 --> 01:32:26,802 This is the package insert. 1817 01:32:26,932 --> 01:32:30,414 And every vaccine intended foruse in healthy animals only. 1818 01:32:30,545 --> 01:32:33,678 I am not anti-vaccine. 1819 01:32:33,809 --> 01:32:36,376 We standardly vaccinate all the time. 1820 01:32:36,507 --> 01:32:40,337 But this is a case I took on twomonths ago, 9 and 1/2 year old 1821 01:32:40,467 --> 01:32:42,208 dog from Virginia. 1822 01:32:42,339 --> 01:32:44,820 Tested positive for three diseases 1823 01:32:44,950 --> 01:32:48,214 this veterinarian diagnosed,and then gave the dog a DHPP, 1824 01:32:48,345 --> 01:32:51,391 lepto, and Lyme vaccine. 1825 01:32:51,522 --> 01:32:54,177 Why do you take a dog with three diseases 1826 01:32:54,307 --> 01:32:57,746 and challenge their immunesystem at the same time 1827 01:32:57,876 --> 01:33:00,183 with six more diseases? 1828 01:33:00,313 --> 01:33:03,665 This unfortunately isstandard operating procedure, 1829 01:33:03,795 --> 01:33:05,710 and in my opinion, malpractice. 1830 01:33:05,841 --> 01:33:08,931 Because it's violating what the drug companies say. 1831 01:33:09,061 --> 01:33:12,587 Vaccinate healthy animals only. 1832 01:33:12,717 --> 01:33:15,111 All right, let's look at a miracle case. 1833 01:33:15,241 --> 01:33:17,853 Let's look at what'scausing immune suppression. 1834 01:33:17,983 --> 01:33:20,638 Let's look at glandular therapy, injectable 1835 01:33:20,769 --> 01:33:22,858 homeopathic remedies, supplements, 1836 01:33:22,988 --> 01:33:25,469 intravenous vitamin C, thevalidity of acupuncture 1837 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,471 in veterinary medicine. 1838 01:33:27,602 --> 01:33:28,037 Who's got a question? 1839 01:33:31,257 --> 01:33:32,694 So obviously there's not a whole lot 1840 01:33:32,824 --> 01:33:35,000 of this in our official curriculum 1841 01:33:35,131 --> 01:33:36,436 here at the vet school. 1842 01:33:36,567 --> 01:33:39,657 So how would you recommendus as future veterinarians go 1843 01:33:39,788 --> 01:33:42,617 about learning all this information 1844 01:33:42,747 --> 01:33:45,445 and these different treatment options? 1845 01:33:45,576 --> 01:33:46,533 The one good thing right now is 1846 01:33:46,664 --> 01:33:50,450 you have society in your favor. 1847 01:33:50,581 --> 01:33:53,453 You have crazy people like me that are out 1848 01:33:53,584 --> 01:33:55,717 there that are showing this. 1849 01:33:55,847 --> 01:33:57,762 And the bandwagon ismoving in this direction. 1850 01:33:57,893 --> 01:34:00,591 Society is finally starting to listen. 1851 01:34:00,722 --> 01:34:02,288 Question. 1852 01:34:02,419 --> 01:34:04,508 Do you think it's more weneed scientific information, 1853 01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:05,988 more scientific studies? 1854 01:34:06,118 --> 01:34:09,121 Or do you think that the yearsof data that we already have 1855 01:34:09,252 --> 01:34:10,732 is good enough to make that change, 1856 01:34:10,862 --> 01:34:12,734 and now it's just a policy kind of issue? 1857 01:34:12,864 --> 01:34:16,346 What a great question. 1858 01:34:16,476 --> 01:34:19,305 My number one criticism over my career, 1859 01:34:19,436 --> 01:34:22,744 if your cases are so great,why haven't you published? 1860 01:34:22,874 --> 01:34:24,223 Why haven't you documented? 1861 01:34:24,354 --> 01:34:26,748 I'm a clinician. 1862 01:34:26,878 --> 01:34:28,532 Animals are coming to me from all 1863 01:34:28,663 --> 01:34:32,841 over the United States withreally distraught families. 1864 01:34:32,971 --> 01:34:36,801 I'm not going to take nine cases of lymphoma, 1865 01:34:36,932 --> 01:34:40,936 put three on alternatives,put three on chemo, 1866 01:34:41,066 --> 01:34:43,765 and put three on a placebo. 1867 01:34:43,895 --> 01:34:45,854 That's not me. 1868 01:34:45,984 --> 01:34:50,946 So my hope in my lifetime isfor me and other integrative 1869 01:34:51,076 --> 01:34:54,297 veterinarians to work inconjunction with a facility 1870 01:34:54,427 --> 01:34:59,258 like Cornell to get science-based evidence 1871 01:34:59,389 --> 01:35:01,173 that integrative medicine works. 1872 01:35:01,304 --> 01:35:04,829 You're not going against what you're studying, 1873 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,397 you're incorporating more. 1874 01:35:07,527 --> 01:35:10,269 So I so appreciate you guys coming today. 1875 01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:11,227 Thank you. 1876 01:35:15,187 --> 01:35:18,538 Start the bandwagon rolling. 1877 01:35:18,669 --> 01:35:19,801 I'm a first-year. 1878 01:35:19,931 --> 01:35:22,586 So I just started three weeks ago. 1879 01:35:22,717 --> 01:35:24,327 I don't know very much yet. 1880 01:35:24,457 --> 01:35:27,896 But I'm really glad that Ifound this during my first year. 1881 01:35:28,026 --> 01:35:30,463 Because now I have the wholerest of my first year and all 1882 01:35:30,594 --> 01:35:32,509 the other years still that I can explore 1883 01:35:32,639 --> 01:35:34,337 it and learn more about it. 1884 01:35:34,467 --> 01:35:36,295 - I - honestly never thought 1885 01:35:36,426 --> 01:35:41,170 that I would see the acceptanceof my work within my lifetime. 1886 01:35:41,300 --> 01:35:45,348 So it's becoming excitingfor me now because we have 1887 01:35:45,478 --> 01:35:48,525 an audience that'll listen. 1888 01:35:48,655 --> 01:35:51,615 I set myself up for ahell of a lot of hardship. 1889 01:35:51,746 --> 01:35:53,791 It's not been easy. 1890 01:35:53,922 --> 01:35:58,274 But if I gave up knowing that this can be done 1891 01:35:58,404 --> 01:36:03,409 and this could be accepted,that would kill me. 1892 01:36:03,540 --> 01:36:07,979 Because picture the dog andpicture the cat in your house 1893 01:36:08,110 --> 01:36:12,070 wagging its tail andlicking your face and how 1894 01:36:12,201 --> 01:36:14,420 good that makes you feel. 1895 01:36:14,551 --> 01:36:16,118 It's incredible. 1896 01:36:16,248 --> 01:36:17,946 And we need that. 1897 01:36:18,076 --> 01:36:21,688 Because we don't wag our tails enough. 1898 01:36:21,819 --> 01:36:24,779 No, they do this sevendays a week, 24 hours a day 1899 01:36:24,909 --> 01:36:26,171 except when they're sleeping. 1900 01:36:26,302 --> 01:36:29,392 So if I can make the companion animals better 1901 01:36:29,522 --> 01:36:32,351 and they can bring us more joy-- 1902 01:36:32,482 --> 01:36:33,831 what? 1903 01:36:33,962 --> 01:36:35,877 How much more of a win can you have in life? 1904 01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:51,066 Red! 1905 01:36:51,196 --> 01:36:51,936 Red! 1906 01:36:55,200 --> 01:37:00,075 I lovemy dog as much as I love you. 1907 01:37:00,205 --> 01:37:06,255 But you may fade, my dogwill always come through. 1908 01:37:06,385 --> 01:37:10,215 All he asks from me is thefood to give him strength. 1909 01:37:10,346 --> 01:37:13,175 All he ever needs is love. 1910 01:37:13,305 --> 01:37:15,786 And that he knows he'll get. 1911 01:37:15,917 --> 01:37:21,096 So I love my dog as much as I love you. 1912 01:37:21,226 --> 01:37:27,667 But you may fade, my dogwill always come through. 1913 01:37:27,798 --> 01:37:31,628 All the pay I need comesa-shining through his eyes. 1914 01:37:31,758 --> 01:37:38,243 I don't need no cold water tomake me realize that I love 1915 01:37:38,374 --> 01:37:42,987 my dog as much as I love you. 1916 01:37:43,118 --> 01:37:49,298 But you may fade, my dogwill always come through. 1917 01:37:49,428 --> 01:37:51,082 Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. 1918 01:37:54,912 --> 01:37:56,609 Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. 1919 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:09,796 I love my dog as much as I love you. 1920 01:38:09,927 --> 01:38:14,149 But you may fade, my dogwill always come through. 1921 01:38:27,031 --> 01:38:28,728 Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na! 1922 01:38:31,862 --> 01:38:33,951 Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na! 1923 01:38:41,654 --> 01:38:43,656 I love my dog. 1924 01:38:43,787 --> 01:38:46,659 Baby, I love my dog. 1925 01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:48,879 Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. 1926 01:38:49,010 --> 01:38:51,403 I said I love my dog. 1927 01:38:51,534 --> 01:38:53,623 Baby, I love my dog. 1928 01:38:53,753 --> 01:38:56,887 Baby, I love my dog. 1929 01:38:57,018 --> 01:38:59,672 Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. 141393

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