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NARRATOR: As the Roman Empirereaches its height,
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an eruption of Mount Vesuviusburies the town of Pompeii.
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KAYLA IACOVINO: Imagine walkingoutside of your house...
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and seeing stones fallingfrom the heavens.
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NARRATOR: Almost 2,000 years later,casts are made of voids
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in the solidified ash,
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revealing the bodies of those who died.
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ROBERT MEYER:
These are people left behind,
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watching the world collapse around them.
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NARRATOR: For one group,called the Fugitives,
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archaeologists are now usingmodern forensic techniques
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to examine the bones hidden inside.
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ALAIN MIDDLETON: Teeth.
You can definitely see teeth.
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-DR. ESTELLE LAZER: Oh, yeah, lots.
-MIDDLETON: Look at 'em.
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NARRATOR: To revealwho these people were...
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LAZER: Oh, my god, what's that there?
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NARRATOR: How they lived,and why they became victims
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of the most famous disasterof the ancient world.
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Nearly two millenniaafter Vesuvius wiped it off the map,
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archaeologists excavated Pompeiito reveal an entire Roman town,
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complete with an amphitheater
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and a grand forum surrounded by temples.
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KATHRYN WELCH:
Well, how exciting is this?
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STIJN LUYCK: Here we are.
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NARRATOR: They also found bodies.
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The most iconic are a groupof 13 victims known as the Fugitives.
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LAZER (off screen):
So, I do have a plan.
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LUYCK (off screen): Yeah.
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LAZER: And I would want
to start at that end,
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-I want to go that way.
-LUYCK: Yeah.
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NARRATOR: A team of experts
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is launching the first everforensic investigation
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into their remains.
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They're led by Dr. Estelle Lazer.
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LAZER: There's a hole in the wallat the back of the display
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and people actually put flowers through
for the tiny children.
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They're a very, very powerful reminder
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of the event that killed so many people.
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-LUYCK: Ready.
-LAZER: Mm-hmm.
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NARRATOR: For volcanologistKayla Iacovino,
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clues in the rocks shed lighton why this eruption was so deadly.
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It started with a bang.
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IACOVINO: So whenthe eruption first began,
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you would have seen a jet of materialcoming up in the middle
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and then branching out,like an umbrella shape.
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They probably would have
felt rumbling, shaking,
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as the magma hitthe surface and exploded...
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and this huge cloud
just looming over everything,
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sort of spreading out above the city.
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NARRATOR: The majorityof Pompeiians left immediately.
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But within the city walls,over a thousand bodies
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have been found.
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It's long been assumed these peoplewere physically unable to run away.
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The old, the very young, and the frail.
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With the Fugitives,
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Dr. Lazer can putthis theory to the test.
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LAZER: There's the skull. That's good.
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NARRATOR: Her work should determineif age or disability
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prevented their escape.
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LAZER: We're usingtraditional forensic techniques
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to work out what agethe victims were when they died,
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if there's any sign of illness or trauma,
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any evidence about their lifestyles.
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-Looks like two rips.
-MIDDLETON: Two rips.
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LAZER: Just to get a senseof who they were.
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NARRATOR: The Fugitives were discoveredby head of excavations,
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Amedeo Maiuri in 1961.
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They're incredibly life-like,
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seemingly frozen at the moment of death.
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This was made possible by a techniquepioneered in the nineteenth century.
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Local archaeologist Antonio de Simoneexplains how it works.
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ANTONIO DE SIMONE (off screen):
This is the first plaster cast
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that was made in Pompeii.
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While the archaeologist was digging
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at about 16 feet above road level,
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he noticed a hollow space,
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and immediately thoughtit could be a body.
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NARRATOR: Over the years,the flesh rots away,
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but the form of the body is preservedas a cavity in the ash.
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By filling the void with Plaster of Paris,
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a three-dimensional replicaof each victim was produced.
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DE SIMONE: The cast has accurately
preserved all the details
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of the cape worn by the victim
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as if it was a sculpture.
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NARRATOR: But wherever detail was lacking,
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nineteenth century archaeologistsoften improved
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the casts themselves.
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DE SIMONE: If we look closely,
we can see a dividing line.
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Above it, the face was
probably a shapeless bulk
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which was then redefined
with extra plaster,
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so this has all been re-worked.
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They didn't set out to deceive,
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but the casts are like photosof the tragedy.
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They need to convey what happened.
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NARRATOR: When Maiuri's teamworked on the Fugitives,
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it's thought that they, too,sculpted the plaster
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to make the casts more lifelike.
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To engage the public,he also created a story
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about who they were and how they died.
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LAZER: For him, it wasa remarkable discovery.
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There were 13 victims together,so it was the largest number
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of casts that had been made at one time.
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He wrote a very emotional article
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which had a profound impacton people visiting the site.
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NARRATOR: Published in
National Geographic magazine,
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that article sketched outthe characters in the group
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and the relationships between them.
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The bodies were originally foundin three smaller groups.
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Now lined up as one, the groups remain.
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Maiuri described the first twoas families of farmers.
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He claimed the third groupwas a merchant family,
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giving vivid detailsabout their final moments.
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LAZER: He says they'retwo boys who he reckons
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were holding hands and fell as one.
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And then the mother, "her bodyalready weakened through childbirth,"
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supporting the youngest child, a girl,
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and trying to ease her pain.
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And then, the very end,"the merchant," in his words,
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resting on one arm,rising up out of the ashes
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to try and protect and save his family.
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He says that it's based on evidence,
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but I cannot see from the information
that I have available to me
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what he bases this story on,
and I think this is a real problem.
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Can we have another one?
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My aim is to actually strip awayall the previous stories
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and just give them backtheir lives and their stories.
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And I do believe that that will imparta little more respect on them
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as victims of a mass disaster.
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NARRATOR: What Maiuri did,was in sync with the times.
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The focus then was on creating an exhibit
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to attract visitors.
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Today, that focus has shifted.
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Dr. Lazer's team hope to discover
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who the Fugitives really were.
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They're using x-rays
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-to penetrate the plaster...
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...and 3D scanning to createdigital replicas of each cast.
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By placing these in a 3D modelof the entire town,
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the Fugitives can be seen in context.
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They died by the city walls,
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apparently so closeto making their escape.
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The early stages of the eruptionscared most people away.
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The mystery is whythe Fugitives stayed behind.
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Work begins on the victimthat Maiuri described
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as the head of the first family.
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The Merchant.
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(beeps)
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DR. DZUNG VU: Skull base,
pretty well preserved.
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-MIDDLETON: Yes
-LAZER: Look, it's got calvarium,
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it's got everything.
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Beautiful! Lots of bones inside.
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This is a really nice skeleton.
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We should be able to get
quite a bit of information
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out of it, don't you think?
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NARRATOR: Beyond the 2,000-year-old bones,
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the scans also revealsomething more modern.
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VU (off screen): Look at that! There!
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LAZER (off screen): What do you think
they've done in there?
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-What's this?
-MIDDLETON (off screen): Mmm.
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He has a big metal hook in his head.
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LAZER (off screen):
Yes, we can see that.
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-This huge lump of metal in there.
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LAZER (off screen): There's a lot of
funny wire, in there, isn't it?
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-That's a weird wire.
-VU: Yep.
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But there's a nail and a rod
holding the plaster of the upper limb,
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to the rest of the body.
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NARRATOR: This unexpected findshows that Maiuri went
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to extraordinary lengths to preservethe Fugitives' final poses.
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The challenge now is to lookbeyond these modifications
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and focus on the bones themselves.
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-LAZER: So this is the first x-ray.
-KEVIN DICUS: This is iconic.
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NARRATOR: To help assess the evidence,
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Pompeii expert Kevin Dicus joins the team.
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DICUS: It feels strangeto shed these old stories
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about these people
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because they have been a part
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of the modern history of Pompeiias an archaeological site.
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But now we have the technologyto actually go deeper,
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literally deeper into the plaster
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and I think we actually owe itto these people
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to strip them of these modern narratives
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and get it back to who they really were.
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NARRATOR: After in-depth analysisof the x-rays,
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subtle details emerge.
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LAZER: We've got the frontal sinus,
and it's well developed
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so that's an indicator
that we're looking at an adult.
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The teeth are all erupted,
the roots are fully formed,
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so that's an adult dentition.
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NARRATOR: Another x-ray shows a hand,
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with the arm bones visible below it.
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But between the hand and the arm,
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the area containingthe small bones of the wrist
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has become abnormally compressed.
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LAZER: We've got a case of
quite severe osteoarthritis at the wrist.
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Probably the cartilage has been lost,
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and there's a likelihood that
we've got bone rubbing against bone.
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DICUS: Ooh. Be quite painful,
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LAZER: So certainly
they'd have pain, swelling,
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some, p-possibly some weakness,
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and I think it would be more likely
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to be an older than younger individual.
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We're starting to see a human beingemerge from this cast,
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which you know, people have often seenthem as being more like statues...
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-DICUS: Absolutely.
-LAZER: ...than individuals.
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NARRATOR: As the team scanthe rest of the cast,
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one last x-ray provides a clueabout the Fugitive's final,
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desperate moments.
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VU: There's bone here.
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LAZER (off screen): Ah, yes.
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NARRATOR: In Pompeii,the forensic team is examining
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the victim known as the Merchant.
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VU: That one there must be broken.
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NARRATOR: They've discoveredthis is an older individual
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with signs of arthritis.
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-VU: But funny bits of bones, too.
-LAZER: Yeah.
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NARRATOR: And the x-rays revealone more intriguing clue.
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LAZER: What we're looking at
is the upper arm bone...
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-and there are some breaks in it.
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LAZER: So, there is evidence
of post-mortem fractures
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and peri-mortem, so those that happened
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NARRATOR: At the top of the upper arm
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is the rounded head of the humerus.
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Cutting across it, barely visible,
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is a hairline fracture,
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possibly the resultof a fall onto the arm.
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LAZER: What that suggestsis that this person experienced
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something quite violent
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DICUS: That really does say something
if they're breaking arm bones.
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LAZER: Yes.
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NARRATOR: Volcanologist Kayla Iacovino isin a corner of Pompeii
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that's still half buried,
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to investigate how the eruption tookits very first victims.
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IACOVINO: So, we've just come up
from main street.
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And what we're looking at here
is a wall of pumice stones.
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So, these pumice stones would have
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during the second phase of the eruption.
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And as the magma is rising up
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you have so much energy,
that here at Pompeii,
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you were able to send stones
like this over 30 kilometers
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into the air, up into the atmosphere.
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NARRATOR: High altitude windsdragged the mushroom cloud
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across Pompeii.
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Then gravity took over,and pumice began to rain down
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on the town below.
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IACOVINO: At this point,
there's no escaping it anymore.
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You're inside of the eruption.
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So, you can imagine walkingoutside of your house
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and seeing stones fallingfrom the heavens.
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So, while these things are
sort of light and fluffy,
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and a single one
maybe hitting you on the head,
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or even a few hitting you on the head,
wouldn't kill you...
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but when you have five metersof this pumice
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sitting on top of a flat roof,
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the roofs start to collapse.
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And unfortunately for Pompeii,
a lot of the people were killed
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because those roofs collapsedon top of them,
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because they decided to shelter in place.
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NARRATOR: When archaeologistsdug down through the pumice layers,
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the remains of thosethat sheltered inside were still there.
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The eruption's first victims.
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Buried in loose pumice,
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it wasn't possibleto make casts of these bodies.
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Only bones were retrieved.
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The Fugitives, however,did not die inside.
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Their bodies were found in a garden,
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on top of the pumice.
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They survived this part of the eruption.
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But they never left Pompeii.
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Social scientist Robert Meyer
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is an expert on the decisions we make
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in the face of disaster.
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(siren wailing)
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MEYER: It's kind of usefulto think through what exactly
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is going through people's brainsat the moment they feel
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that something bad is goingto happen to them.
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MAN (over radio): Mandatory evacuation,mandatory evacuation.
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MEYER: And we're subject to a number of,
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what are called cognitive biasesor rules of thumb,
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which normally work really well
for us on a day-to-day basis
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but when it comes to these very rare,
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very, very dangerous sorts of events,
can lead us astray.
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PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: This storm
is now designated a Category 5 hurricane.
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We cannot stress enough the dangerthis poses to communities.
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MEYER: In a period of intense threat,
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one of the deepest instincts that we have
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is to stay with things that are familiar.
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So, safety is associatedwith the place that we live.
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It's where all our possessions are.
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PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: I urge all
citizens to put their own safety first,
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by moving to safe ground.
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MEYER: Sheltering in placemay not be the best thing to do
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but what are the alternatives.
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And do I really think thatrunning away outside
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is necessarily going to bea safer option than it is to stay here?
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And the more confused we get,
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the more our brain is telling us,
don't do anything.
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REPORTER (over TV): Neighborhoodthat's completely underwater.
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There's a couple of rooftops here.
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MEYER: This is the thingwe call the status quo bias.
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REPORTER (over TV): Completely stranded,this is a family of five people.
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MEYER: You end up with mental paralysis.
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REPORTER (over TV): Just realizedthe gravity of the situation here.
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MEYER: And in the faceof paralysis, our instinct is
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to not do anything and just stay.
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NARRATOR: In Pompeii,everyone who stayed behind would perish.
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Including the next targetsof the investigation,
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the very youngest in the group.
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(camera beeps)
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NARRATOR: As pumicerained down on Pompeii,
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the Fugitives clung on.
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For the youngest in the group,
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it must have beena particularly terrifying ordeal.
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According to the story created by Maiuri,
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this was a farming family,
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and the children were brothers,
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four or five years of age.
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(indistinct chatter)
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To make their own age estimates,
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Dr. Lazer's team hasa particular target in mind.
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MIDDLETON: Teeth! Ah yeah, you can see it.
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NARRATOR: Forensic dentist Alain Middleton
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usually works on the victimsof modern disasters
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like air crashes and earthquakes.
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But these 2,000-year-old teethcontain just as much information.
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MIDDLETON: We've certainly got
lots of molar teeth,
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they're obviously fully erupted.
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I mean, for instance this tooth here,
the roots are fully formed.
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LAZER (off screen):
Means that we're not looking
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at a really, really young child?
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MIDDLETON: No, it's someone who's got
fairly well-developed secondary teeth,
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so probably looking
at something around five plus.
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LAZER: Okay, this is number two.
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(camera beeps)
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MIDDLETON: So, teeth,
you can definitely see teeth.
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-LAZER: Oh yeah, lots.
-MIDDLETON: Look at them.
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They're primary teeth.
But where are the secondary teeth?
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That should make it easier
to get an age estimate.
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-LAZER: And you reckon it's...
-MIDDLETON: And I--
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It would appear to be
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probably a little bit younger
than the previous one.
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NARRATOR: On this, Maiuri's estimateof four or five years old was correct.
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Young children, with everythingin front of them.
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For archaeologists like Kevin Dicus,
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understanding what life was likefor children here
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is a challenge.
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Across Pompeii,they seem almost invisible.
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DICUS: Wow, what a house this is.
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This is absolutely
the house of a very wealthy,
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influential aristocrat.
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How often do you see
an entirely mosaiced atrium?
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We even have a mosaiced peacock,
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a symbol of opulence.
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It's beautiful...
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everything suggests leisure,
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suggests enjoyment of life.
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(birds singing)
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NARRATOR: Designed forentertaining guests,
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this was an adult world.
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Across Pompeii, there areno spaces dedicated to children.
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To get into their worldrequires a closer look.
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DICUS (off screen): A plaster wall
can serve as a sort of canvas
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for anybody to engrave names or figures
or whatever they wanted.
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Here we just have a series
of lines, horizontal, diagonal--
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I can't identify anything here.
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But I can identify something right here.
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Always lower to the ground,
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we can find stylized figures
of animals or people.
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Here we have an animal.
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Here we have a very simple rectangle
representing the torso
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and a stylized head, here.
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Down below, vertical lines
representing the legs.
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I'm not sure what sort of animal it is,
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but it's definitely
from the hand of a child.
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NARRATOR: Kids' graffiti like thiscrops up all over Pompeii.
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The wealthier childrenhad other entertainment, too.
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DR. GRETE STEFANI: In a monument
at Porta Nocera necropolis,
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I excavated a grave, and inside it I found
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this collection of small animals
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made from bone.
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It's a mother dog with her puppies
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DICUS (in Italian): So lovely.
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STEFANI: There were also
some small animals
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made from amber, like this cow
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and a small amber soldier.
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DICUS:
Ah, si, si, si.
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STEFANI: And also
some tiny vases, like this.
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Like all of these things,
they were children's toys.
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(Dicus speaking Italian)
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DICUS (in Italian): So beautiful.
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NARRATOR: Never before seen on television,
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this collection was foundin the tomb of a grown woman.
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Objects so precious,that she had kept them her entire life.
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DICUS (off screen): It's incredible.
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They're such a tangible reminder
to us that in 79 AD,
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there were children everywhere
in the city of Pompeii.
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NARRATOR: According to Maiuri,the second family was made up
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of a young farming coupleand another child,
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described as their slenderand undernourished daughter.
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VU (off screen): Go down
the lowest you can get, right?
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NARRATOR: Apparently a similar sizeto the other children,
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this cast has a surprisein store for the team.
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LUYCK (off screen): Ready.
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LAZER: I'd say blitz it.
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(camera beeps, shutter clicks)
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NARRATOR: In Pompeii,forensic dentist Alain Middleton
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is examining one of the smallest childrenin the Fugitives group.
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MIDDLETON: Well, this is
quite interesting, this view,
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because we can see a jumble of teeth.
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It's showing us in, right in
the center of the picture there,
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a lot of dental information...
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And most of these teeth, the development
of the roots is incomplete.
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This is the second primary molar.
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This tooth hasn't fully erupted.
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This is a very good pointeras to the age of this individual.
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It's definitely an infant.
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Probably around about 12-14 months
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through to about 15-16 months.
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NARRATOR: The milk teeth emerge in stages
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through early childhood.
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A molar like this,still embedded in the bone and gum,
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gives a reliable age estimate.
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LAZER (off screen): That's amazing,
because babies don't always survive
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very well in the archaeological record.
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The bones weren't recognized
as a scientific resource
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until relatively recently,
so they weren't stored very carefully,
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and infant bones are quite
different looking to adult bones,
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so it's quite possible
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that they weren't even recognized
as human.
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This is a fantastic discovery.
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NARRATOR: This is the youngest childto be identified by the team,
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in Pompeii.
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A remarkable discovery...
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a child barely able to walk.
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Dealing with an infantwould have certainly slowed
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the Fugitives down.
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But they stuck together until the end.
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MEYER: When a disaster occurs,some people will go rogue.
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They'll act for themselves and run off.
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(speaking in foreign language)
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But the greater norm is to go ahead
and stay with the group.
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There's a certain senseof emotional reassurance
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of just being with others.
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It's also the case we liketo look after each other.
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So, if we see an elderly person
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or if we see a child,
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our tendency is to,to wanna stay back and help them.
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This instinct to stay with othersis so, so powerful
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that often, that trumps
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our individual desiresto survive by ourselves.
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NARRATOR: The layersof pumice here are so thick
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that volcanologists believeit kept falling right through the night.
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(rumbling)
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The Fugitives, found above these layers,
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survived until morning,when a new threat emerged.
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IACOVINO: What's really fascinating
about this deposit in particular
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is that you can put your finger
on the exact moment
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that the eruption switched
from the pumice fallout phase
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to the pyroclastic flow phase, just here.
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Everything beneath this layer is pumice
that had fallen from the sky.
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This was that stuffthat was raining out of a cloud
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that had shot more than 30 kilometersabove the summit of the volcano.
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Once that pumice rained out,
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that column began to collapse in on itself
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gathering up and then shooting down
the steep slopes.
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NARRATOR: As the eruption lost power,
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the central column gave way to gravity.
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Clouds of ash and hot gas,known as pyroclastic flows,
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raced down the flanks of Vesuviusat over 100 miles an hour.
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IACOVINO: So you can imagine
being someone in Pompeii
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who had survived
this disastrous downpour of pumice,
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you're thinking maybe things are safe now
and the eruption is over,
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but things were actually about
to get a whole lot worse.
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NARRATOR: As pyroclastic flowsraced down the flanks of Vesuvius,
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time was almost up for anyonethat had stayed in Pompeii.
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Altogether, more than 80 victimsof these flows are preserved in plaster.
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-LUYCK: You're ready?
-LAZER: Okay.
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NARRATOR: Dr. Lazer plansto x-ray them all.
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Including the casts on displayat the entrance to the ruins.
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-LAZER: So, left hand, please and--
-LUYCK: We will see what we get.
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LAZER (off screen): Okay, thank you.
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(camera beeps)
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LAZER: Oh, look. Oh, my god.
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What's that there?
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That doesn't look like bone at all.
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LUYCK: It is metal.
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LAZER: It's metal, for sure.
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I think we need a clearer view of that.
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Okay.
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That's super clear now. Look at that.
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00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,040
That looks like a ring, doesn't it?
491
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,200
So, you can see that
the metal has corroded.
492
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,600
But you can still see the form
of the ring around the finger.
493
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320
Yeah. That's fantastic.
494
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,240
NARRATOR: To find out what the ringcould tell us about this victim,
495
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,920
Kevin has gained accessto some of the valuables found
496
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,160
when Pompeii was excavated.
497
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,680
DICUS: We've got these
beautiful gold chains...
498
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,760
gold earrings with pearl drops.
499
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,560
Many of these were found
in association with the bodies.
500
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,640
We've got these beautiful examples
of gold rings, set with gemstones.
501
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,280
Go down the line, we have silver examples.
502
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,160
This one exhibits
a little bit of corrosion.
503
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,080
It's not quite as perfect
as the gold rings.
504
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,000
When we start to get down the spectrum,
505
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,920
we see more and more corrosion.
506
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,480
We can take a look
at the bronze ring here.
507
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,920
And of course,
coming down here, the iron rings.
508
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,440
Ours, as it looks in the x-ray,
exhibits a lot of corrosion.
509
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,320
So, we could say
it's definitely not a gold ring.
510
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,360
It's perhaps an iron ring,
or maybe even a silver ring.
511
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,680
NARRATOR: The metal ofan oval setting is perfectly preserved,
512
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,520
suggesting the presence of a gemstone.
513
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,320
But the rest of the ringhas clearly corroded over time.
514
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,360
DICUS: So, this is notan elite piece of jewelry,
515
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,280
it's not remarkably expensive.
516
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,120
But there is a gemstone set into it.
517
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,320
So it's not an incredibly humble model,
518
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,800
it still cost some money.
519
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,760
And it does say somethingabout this person.
520
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,160
Maybe he is not an aristocrat,the wealthiest person
521
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,200
but he is trying to communicatesomething with this.
522
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,680
And for him this is a very,very personal piece of adornment.
523
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,720
NARRATOR: This ring was worn proudlyuntil the day of the eruption...
524
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,840
when all of these valuablessuddenly became worthless.
525
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,200
In the story created by Maiuri,
526
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,480
the third family in the groupwas led by a servant...
527
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,400
carrying a sack of provisions.
528
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,640
On the hunt for more artifacts,
529
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,720
it's an obvious targetfor the forensic team.
530
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,080
LUYCK: You have to go, like,
that much deeper I think.
531
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,520
What do you think, Julia?
532
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,880
On the right-hand side completely, yeah--
533
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,200
LAZER (off screen):
You can see where the lump is.
534
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,320
LUYCK (off screen): Yeah, we will start
with the shoulder?
535
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,520
LAZER: Start with the shoulder
and just work round,
536
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,800
and as many angles and as possible.
537
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,520
-LUYCK: One, two, three...
-(camera beeps, shutter clicks)
538
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,320
-VU (off screen): Nothing--
-MIDDLETON (off screen): Nothing.
539
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,080
-It's just plaster.
-VU: Nothing.
540
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,600
LAZER (off screen):
And it's not there?
541
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,560
LUYCK (off screen): It's not there.
542
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,440
NARRATOR: There's no signof a sack, or provisions.
543
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,720
Nothing that matches Maiuri's suggestionthat this was a servant.
544
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,160
LAZER (off screen):
I think if you, the x-rays...
545
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:50,960
DICUS: Wow, look at that.
546
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,320
NARRATOR: But further analysisof the skeleton
547
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,080
does reveal somethingof this victim's true identity.
548
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,880
LAZER:
Unfortunately, there are no teeth
549
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,720
that could be studied in the skull
550
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,360
so our age estimate's
purely on skeletal evidence.
551
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,200
And what we're looking at
is the lower leg bone...
552
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,880
and the foot areas around the ankle.
553
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,040
-DICUS: Right.
-LAZER: This is the growth plate
554
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080
that hasn't yet closed.
555
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:22,080
So we're looking at someone
possibly in their mid-teens.
556
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,280
DICUS (off screen): Wow!
557
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,520
NARRATOR: In adolescence,some of the bones are still
558
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,640
in the process of fusing together.
559
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,680
The presence of this growth platetells us the age
560
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,680
of this so-called servant when they died.
561
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,960
This teenagerclearly contradicts one theory
562
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,200
about those who failed to escape.
563
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,720
DICUS (off screen): But this was sort
of the legend of the victims
564
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,360
that's been circulated for so long is,
565
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,400
there's been a limitation or some reason
why they were left behind,
566
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,520
why they died, they were too young,
too old, too infirm.
567
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,600
We're starting to get a sense that this
actually really isn't the case.
568
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,920
LAZER: Mm, yeah, absolutely,
I mean, we have a range of ages
569
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,680
so we do have very young individuals,
570
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,280
but we've also got older ones,
571
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,440
we've got people who are in their teens.
572
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,120
So, a good selection of the population.
573
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,840
DICUS: Right, right,suddenly we're not talking
574
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,120
about physical limitations as beingthe cause of these deaths.
575
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,560
It could be a multitude of reasonswhy they decided to stay back.
576
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,800
NARRATOR: To complete their workon the purported servant,
577
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,480
the team move on to the feet.
578
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,240
-LUYCK (off screen): Is that nails?
-LAZER: Oh!
579
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,000
-VU: The metatarsal's there--
-LAZER: Oh!
580
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,000
Oh, my gosh.
581
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,040
You know what, I think
you're right, they are nails.
582
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,800
So, they had shoes on, look at that!
583
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,960
LUYCK: It's part of a shoe, yeah.
584
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,760
LAZER: Wow, they're really good.
585
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:59,080
VU: Seems to have two rows of nails...
586
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,800
-MIDDLETON: Yeah.
-VU: ...parallel to each other
587
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,760
-LAZER: It's amazing--
-MIDDLETON: One, two...
588
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,000
three, four, five, six, seven...
589
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,680
NARRATOR: Clearly visiblein the x-ray, these are hobnails,
590
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,160
from the sole of a practicaland well-made sandal.
591
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,800
Hardly the footwear of someoneMaiuri described as a lowly servant.
592
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,760
From a victimin the so-called Merchant's family,
593
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,560
there's also a clue to howthe Fugitive's final moments played out.
594
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,000
LAZER: Well, as you cansee both the feet are together.
595
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,080
DICUS: Mm-hmm.
596
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,840
LAZER: And what we can see
is there's a cluster of metal nails
597
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,440
associated with the right foot,
none with the left foot
598
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,480
so it looks like while they were fleeingthey lost the left sandal.
599
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,560
DICUS: Oh.
600
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,800
LAZER: The idea that somebody's
running away from a terrible fate
601
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,800
and they lose a shoeand they just keep going,
602
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,160
it's a very compelling imageof people trying to escape
603
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,080
literally the end of the world.
604
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,360
(rumbling)
605
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,880
NARRATOR: Just after dawnon the second day of the eruption,
606
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,560
a huge pyroclastic flow raced downthe flanks of Vesuvius...
607
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,880
and tore through Pompeii.
608
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,920
The Fugitives were engulfed immediately.
609
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,360
To find out what happened to them,
610
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,480
Kayla is examining three nearby victims
611
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,920
that were hit by the same flow.
612
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,800
IACOVINO (off screen): We got clues as
to how these people would have died
613
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,160
based on the poses
that the bodies are found in...
614
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:09,480
with the arms bent, pulled in
tightly close to the body.
615
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,320
Here you can see the elbow bent
616
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,560
as if he's bringing his arm in
617
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,080
to protect his face.
618
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,600
That's kind of what it looks like,
619
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,440
as well his legs are bent,
flexed at the knees.
620
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,080
So, we know from modern eruptions,
621
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,040
where pyroclastic flows
have moved through villages
622
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,240
that the bodies end up in poses similar
to what we see here in Pompeii.
623
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,840
(siren wailing)
624
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,800
(people shouting in foreign language)
625
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,760
NARRATOR: In 2018,a Guatemalan volcano called Fuego
626
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,160
produced devastating pyroclastic flows.
627
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:45,000
(men speaking in foreign language)
628
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,520
(girl screams)
629
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,360
Bodies pulled from the ashwere frozen in position,
630
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,240
with arms and legs bent inwards.
631
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,800
IACOVINO: A pyroclastic flowcan be 200 or 300 degrees,
632
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,240
and that causes the muscles
to dehydrate instantly,
633
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,280
causing them to then
flex inward due to contraction,
634
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,680
and they end up in this pose,
which we call a pugilistic attitude,
635
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,440
kind of like a boxer protecting
his face with his, with his fists.
636
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,560
But it's really this action
of the dehydration of the muscles
637
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,880
that's causing the body
to contract and tense in this way.
638
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,000
So, they would have instantaneouslyswept up in this cloud.
639
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,960
Cooked in place by the hot gases.
640
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,480
NARRATOR: Of the Fugitives,a number of victims show similar poses.
641
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,320
Contorted by the heatduring their final, desperate moments.
642
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,920
MEYER: These are people
probably who should have left
643
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,600
many, many hours earlier.
644
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,720
They didn't.
645
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,680
And they were left behind,and they were kind of watching
646
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,480
the world collapse around them.
647
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,560
And then ultimately this group decides,
648
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,320
look, our only chancefor survival is we have to brave
649
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,640
the elements outside.
650
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Of course, in this case what happened,it was really too late.
651
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,400
NARRATOR: What remains isa three-dimensional impression
652
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,600
of the moment the Fugitives died together.
653
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,880
MEYER: This is very rare.
654
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,840
We never really get to see people
655
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,240
in the momentof their last conscious thought.
656
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,800
In some cases, we spend that last momenttrying to protect ourselves.
657
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:39,720
And in other cases,we go ahead and reach out
658
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,440
to someone who is close to us.
659
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,320
We see that incredible diversity here,
660
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,720
and in that sense it's a remarkable image.
661
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,360
NARRATOR: Before the investigation,
662
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,520
the Fugitives were knownby the identities created
663
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,080
for them by Amedeo Maiuri.
664
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,600
The Merchant...
665
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,920
The Farmer's Daughter...
666
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,800
and The Servant.
667
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,960
The team has found nothingto support these claims.
668
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,520
But a new picture is emerging.
669
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,760
LAZER: We knowthe ages range from pretty young infants,
670
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,280
through young childhoodinto the teen years
671
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,840
and right into older adult age.
672
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,160
We know something about
the health of the individuals.
673
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,480
So slowly, slowly we're learningabout who these people were.
674
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,720
NARRATOR: By determiningthe age profile of the Fugitives,
675
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,960
the team has also challengedanother theory about Pompeii's victims,
676
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,600
that they were too old, too young,
677
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,800
or too infirm to escape.
678
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,720
DICUS: What we're seeing hereis something very different.
679
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,160
We're looking at a full range
and really not one of them,
680
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,000
as I can see,
681
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,280
has a condition that would
preclude them from escaping.
682
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,240
And so, it's something beyond physical
that caused them to stay,
683
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,160
it was decisions.
684
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,960
And this is very importantbecause they're not passive.
685
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,240
They made decisions.
686
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,600
It's a new way to lookat these individuals.
687
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,880
LAZER: And hopefully we've given back
688
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,200
a little bit of their lives to them.
689
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,400
DICUS:
And a little bit of their voice.
690
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,880
LAZER: And I guess inthe first century AD, in Roman culture,
691
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,600
to be remembered was very important.
692
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,480
So, I think even though
it was completely inadvertent
693
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,520
you know, their deathin this horrible event
694
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,520
has led in some waytowards making them immortal.
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