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You learn by experience
I became business-savvy because
I learned very early on of how
People get exploited
With with art
In general
In or nnnn more specifically music
How major labels make money
You know because I'm thinking you know
In a utopian society or somewhere on in some parallel universe you think that an artist
The created
Will get paid
The most
For it and then
When you look at some of the book some of these
Figures didn't line up and it's like wait you're only getting that and out of this because oh it's because we gave you this advance and you have to pay
So I slowly learn that and then
You know so I would always approach things a little cautiously when it came down to it you don't signing pieces of paper
Burn
Working with whom and why and then that kind of thing so I'm
I was always wary of that
To some degree
You know you hear about
Groups like TLC going f****** bank
Like how does that happen
I'm so so that I think that's what's kind of put this like
Climate
Here across everybody trying that you know
Getting entering to a major record label deal or something like that
So
Of course
To my surprise I I signed with an individual who shall not be named and I got f*****
Cute like on everything and double dip and all that stuff in it and I had to get f***** before I learn that I got fun
You know
But I'm I'm eternally grateful that happened very early on in my career that I made a bad
Decision that you know
That I
Grown now not to make worst mission tonight and then from that point on it's like okay well
You know what I'm going to start learning
Entry-level things like League music law and
Publishing and how it all works I'm going to start learning a little bit so that so that I have a better understanding of the day
Feels that I'm entering into
But you know that's
If you're if you're fortunate enough to get into that
World it gets really interesting and nnn kind of fun
Once you have control over it it's like having a night
And and and having a versus having a lucid dream where is it like I would say like a nightmare
You can't control you just kind of like this
Passive
Entity in this
You know just taking everything where's that you know if you're having a lucid dream you're in and you know all this weird dark shift
You can
Get an understanding of the situation you're in and then make it work for you
Major labels are kind of like being on the edge right now a lot of them have
Have coalesced
Into Vigor Ventures with more.
But
The last
360 deal was actually signed about
5 years ago in 360 meeting all-encompassing like I'm going to buy you a Xanax I can own your publishing ameritrain
Ancillary Xylitol
And all this stuff around it and we're going to give you one big thing and we're going to keep you on for
510
Whatever return
But they're generally a really long
Majors are kind of struggling to keep up with this
You know
All this flash-in-the-pan
The only thing that's working for Majors right now are the AAA
Massive acts that are on those labels and we're talkin the Rihanna's did the Jay-Z's that that that's what they're still kind
Hanging onto and that's how they're you know recouping Aldi
He's lots of fun
What they really want to do is they want to cash in on the Denon now's and gone next week and then announce and gone neck
Next week because
Ultimately that
The interest
In artists
Across all genres it is being you know
It's so internet-based and it's so fleeting
It's so quick
Kickin It
Only few catch on to develop careers of their own kind of think they're like
You think about like YouTube
You know what I mean there for a minute but
I hope you guys like renstad Revenue because
Casino the people will move on
Something else music
Kind of similar to that
Especially if you are not
Evolving as an artist entity
Spaniard
You're definitely only
You know with my experience and I've been with
You know
3 or 4
Major
Labels and it's been nothing but
Now I know why late record labels are record leave
Levels because it's
It's just a business model you're there didn't really
How about in Creative decisions or anything like that or if they
It comes to anything they don't care they they kind of want what everybody wants
Something
Off-the-shelf
That's ready to go that'll salatul self that'll bring them in income
You know
And and of course they had you back
That's like
You know giving an artist a million-dollar advance
Towards something that just means you're already in debt a million dollars now while you got paid that you know
They're betting
That you're going to make more than that
Eminem pay that back and then hopefully do that plus
A percentage over on the publishing that that label will own and all that stuff
Then the label will go ahead and depending how
Disgusting the f****** label is they'll go ahead and
Charter
Massive like streaming deals with
Pandora and Spotify and all that
Stuff for all the artists on their labels
And then when Xtreme and Company throws that record label to check for sake 20 million dollars
That record labels like cool got it
But they have no idea how to propagate those funds to the artist so they just don't report it
And I think that was one of us
Taylor Swift big problems and how it and rightfully so because you know
Out of all that money you took for a blanket license for all the music on your major label which is
And covers a lot of sub labels and artists all the way including EDM Artists and pop Acts
Hip hop guys
How do I know
Which my stuff on Pandora was
Was streamed or on Spotify with streamed or what
And how are you doing that payment on there like 11 then we don't know he's got a
Am I in
You can't
Ever have a person at a major label who's looking after you
And just you
You know or even though I mean looking at for not looking out for just looking after like
There was never anyone point-of-contact I could call and say hey how are we doing with this
Alright
Thanks for the help
Yeah
So not really needed
But a label none the less you will need to label whether it's major in the
Or or kind of somewhere in the middle which is where I think I am
You got to have a team
You're going to need a team no matter what
I'll wait at accounting legal in management is usually your three major food groups of everything was where your
Management clinic
Langels everybody
You know I counting just deals with
You know money is in out whether it's you know
200 bucks from Plano Pub
4/2 million from playing fast
That all that's all
Very relative on all levels
And in a good lawyer
You know someone you could try so when you like you know don't ever work with someone you can't stand to be around
Even if they do a better job than someone else
That's very important
But there is one bit of advice
I should
You know I'd that I think even
A lot of
AAA artist right now
Could benefit from is
If you get to the point or if you're already at the point
Call your accountant
And if he can't answer you
The answer to how much money do I have in less than one sentence
You need to fire that accountant and get a new one
In nu really need a really well
Oiled machine with moving parts that all work together harmoniously
Efficiently as possible
And that means
You know
Never have too many cooks in the kitchen light
Ayenda
And just make sure
All communication is transparent
Ultimately your tracks will sell online
At least today
In-N-Out how to do that
Effectively is you know to
Sell-through iTunes know how do you do that you know like cuz not just every Joe Schmo can make
Aggregation service in farm near stuff and have
Personal relationships with iTunes music and have their CD soul.
Ford
Way back when it really internet there used to be some models that would allow you to sell
You know I your music online for
For very cheap like
With a free service and then you would ultimately get paid for it but we're talkin like maybe
3 to $4 a month
Hey if you're lucky
On thousands and thousands of plays or downloads and stuff like that was MP3.
Scamming they got
Now they have services like
SoundCloud
Which
Are great but you can't sell anything out of SoundCloud it's just a big promotion networking
There's only went one winner walking away from SoundCloud MIT SoundCloud you no answer
So that's not cool
And you know selling music online
I think comes after you've developed
A sort of following now doesn't have to be a million people doesn't have to be hundreds of thousands
Some people just kind of thing that you could
A website you know
Anything like that there are plenty of
You know Gateway payment systems
You can use PayPal
Are all that stuff text to aggregate your stuff
Out until you can afford or until you're given the opportunity to work with the digital aggregation
System that will
Farming music out
Streaming in
Why make albums
That's that's a good question
I mean albums albums I guess
Traditionally speaking all all major label we need to sell music on in package
Aside
Alton's rrr cool like
The bodies of work
You know that that
Span over
Ball like
Or actually
Around
75 minutes
Of Music which is
It's kind of like a nice
Length of
How to to listen
Through
An entire Year's worth
The work order
Week surf
Amongst
Decades who knows
But I mean they're not
Hayirli necessarily I could actually seen
Now
Having moving back actually not doing any albums and just releasing singles all the
The time I in electronic music I really would
Be that weird to not ever have an album and then
Just released singles
But I tend to do is just
Just make music f***
You know just
Keep going right all this stuff that you you know in some years obviously I've noticed sound different than other years
Panda
And then I I take my whole collection of music that I've made and I'll go in and then and just
Pretty last minute
Say okay
This would be tracked to no wait this will be tracked to and then the subtract 3
Done call ml
You don't
Get paid
Buy more of this
Or whatever
Song titles in album titles don't come to me at all
So I just
Arbitrarily name them
Whatever
Very
I'm very weird
So it
I hate that first started off as a joke with me because I remember I'm
A time when I was in the back of a cab on tour and they were pressing one of my albums like neck
And one of the the
The
Songs that are
Concluded
In the release package that went to management that went to
Printing press
Didn't have a title it was just
Track 2
Or some or something like that
Can I get sent
Off into the thing and then
And then being my manager
In a frantic calling my tour manager was sitting beside me in the
In the cabinet or manager looks over to me so
Hey you don't Dean's on the phone he needs you to
Keen shoes
He needs you to name this track right this second
Because Dean is literally on the other end
Ready to hit send on a
File to go out
And so
Call Seth
And I quote
You need to name this song right
I mean the song right this second
Cuz I need it
Do it
So I said okay finding youwin write this
Can I go just
Couldn't write this
You like right this second it was all year yeah you're funny and I'm like no seriously and I hung up the phone and it went out to
Prank called right this second
I'm and then I'll Municipal you know what what about the album named I don't know just give it to me random album title
And then he's like
Oh okay so he's playing the same game I'm playing he called it random album.
There you go
You know my whole logic behind you do me mean tracks
Some titles is like
A Rose by Any Other Name you know like it's
The name is not going to change
The popularity of
Attract
Unless you called it s***
You might actually not sell as many
Doing that
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