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Mike my creation process is
You know
I like to I like to deprive myself of sleep
I like to
And work
From 9 p.m. to
7 a.m. and then the idea sometimes doesn't hit me or more often then I'll actually does hit me around 3 to 4 a.m.
Immuno and then
You know this is weird it's like egg because I'm my brain is in this weird euphoric
State I guess
Love no sleep that you know
I start thinking of
Or not
Nnn start you know kind of getting more experimental things done and writing
Melodies Inn in just becoming more efficient at
Being not so critical
God because I guess
That's why you're not supposed to dry
At like 3 or 4 in the morning after you don't having been up 24 hours prior because
Do judgements not there you know you need in your
Do not
Critical thinking
About you don't driving so you know he might doze off or you might just like kind of
Falls out and do a thing so it's like
But when you apply that to making music it's you know year
You're not
Inhibited by you know
Some kind of stress that's going on that day or something like that or the stress of why this track isn't really working and
You just kind of just doing it
And
Not
Contriving anything you know
And then sometimes that's just like kind of the flood gate opens and ideas come out and you get him down
And you're like wow you know looking out at school and then you get excited about that and you start working on it now whether it's it's going to
Turn into one of those things where you like
Banging your head off the desk trying to get it finished but
That doesn't matter it's just
So rewarding ticket to come up with something that
Doesn't sound like the same
Punching your head off the desk ATM kind of stuff
I I disassociate music from almost everything
Which is kind of strange
Because a lot of people are like
A lot of other artists I know what you do music
Feeling and it's this and that and then and to me it's not you know it's it's so disassociated from scenes
So disassociated from
People's personal habits
And it's disassociated from body movement II disassociated from
Everything I just emotionally
Cut the head off a music
They're going to go at it from a
Let's just do it kind of
A Bible you know that is so but that that's just me other guys need that connection they need the personal
And I don't even think about s*** like that
I get to ask that question a lot and you know it's like
When you were making this how did you feel or how do you expect people to feel and it's like
Did that wasn't even in the neighborhood you know I wasn't even in the on the planet
I don't I don't think songs
Unless you're
Neil Young
That storytelling with a music and and and stuff like that but but he DM
I think it's
Is pretty subjective I mean I could
Say that it was
Telling a story and then I could impose that story on everyone and
And then that would be the
You know the global opinion is a thing but I like
I like that people can take away different things from the same body of work
I'm so
That's the way I go about making music
Because I'm just
Completely
I've never found myself humming a tune on the couch
In my head and picking up I got it and I'm going to go in the studio and then do it I just kind of
Just go and
Start doing it and then the ideas form as I'm doing it as opposed to
Me trying to form a pre-existing idea in my head
For me I can't sit down and say
I'm work on the beginning intro of a song and polish it and then have it all good and great and then work after that
And then do the middle section and then go to the end I can't work in a linear fashion
When I start making music
You know I sit down at the computer and just start plotting out Melody
I mean cuz that's number one for me making a song as you know the
Melodic structure the whole thing whether it's going to be like another
The main
Fraser Hall
If you will
You just go in and create don't worry about the sound don't worry about
Yeah the mag so that's an an all these things cuz you know you want to hear this thing in all its Glory as your starting at which is never
Going to happen
It's just laying down all the face except maybe some minor rhythmic patterns or something like that
Ijust 2
You know keep the tempo or something for me to hear while I'm working on the melody so none of that stuff's really important
Yeah maybe
Like three-quarters through
And then the last quarter the process would be you know refining everything and then I actually using the sounds I want to use
Susan and the instruments that I want to use in that
The drums and
All all that stuff I want to use and then the last part is you know
Coherently gluing it all together
Mix it properly,
So that's that's
Pretty much
The process
90% of my time is just
Goofing around and Eminem trying to come up with something then it is polishing the something that I came up with
Mr. Potato Head
I think I meant that like well a lot of
Music software today is
Widely accessible and available and you know cheapest not free
So you know in and of course you can go in and grab
Bstock libraries
Basically pre-made music
And
Literally take you know
234 bars this and then
Some bars of that and then just
Mix and match
Stuff you know and then
Get imprinted
Call it a day and say hey I mean
So that that's what I think I meant by that but then there's another way doing that too is if you're creating those
Parts you could
Kind of use that
For your own good and you know
You create all these ideas and then you create a folder or whatever
Archival sister
Start throwing all your bits and there's like
When you're working on something and you do star Pasha
Thinking wall
Oh
You know when you can grab this whole little recording or
Hair clipper
Whatever it is and then
Just stick it in there and then
There it is see you knowing if you have a large enough collection of
Stockton over 10 years
Making music
Have a lot
You can
Just go into that
Solar system and grab what you want
The repetition and idioms important if you want to get the thing done
On time and on budget
That's a big one
I mean
Repetition is good
In the sense that I can
I can write a whole song and less than 16 bars
It really truly I can do a whole track and less than 16 bars and then
Once those 16 bars which is like what
23 seconds
Of music
Is done
And then it's all about arrangement
I am to ranging that that 60 more even ate
Or s*** if your Praises for
You know it it's all about just you know lengthening a duplicating that whole thing across the board and then arranging it saying
What comes in what goes out what gets modified what gets on modified
But it's all the same thing
Dad is so much easier than
Then
Starting you know your track and then trying to plot it all the way through and you know and then having cons
Some changes cool that would be I am don't really hear that that much because
Take a long time
To wrap your head around
It only takes me like
Two or three days to write a track because I don't
Even though it took me
10 to 12 hours to come up with this stupid malady that
Starting on a nail and then went up and down into this thing and then enzyme like a kind of resolve and then
It sounds naturally being cycle that that takes time
But once I've done that
I feel so much better I'm like a lady I'm like the track is done and then was like everyone's like what you like
Like maybe
16 beats long and I'm like I do but it's done it's done in my head
If I had any advice for you know the upcoming producers would be you know like
You get on the map Honestly by Leading her by following
Do you really do
You get on the mat fight you know taking
Pieces of stuff that are out there and I'm not talking about
Sampling but ideas
Structures in and stuff like that
Drawing on what
Doing it right now and then
And then once you're up there
That put you in a position of
Power if you will too
Going make changes
I copied from everyone I copied from you know
Melodically I copied
It's from Nine Inch Nails
Slii
They copied from a bit of that and then and I think
That was kind of
A smart move on my part because
I knew
That a lot of this house in electronic music at the time when I started was very euphoric
Very
Pump Up the Jam really you know really like
All major stuff
Miami majors and key you know it was all very uplifting and
How come no one's really done anything more you know
Minor sustains kind of stuff minor
16 seven notes
And stuff like that
I hear a lot of this
Quick appreciation
Pistachio
I wanted to try and make something a little more melancholic and in terms of Melody that was more
Like a downer kind of feel but keep that same tempo and then
And instead of going so quick and
Sharpen fast with my
Appreciation song chord structures
I'll just tell them down to like slower eighth notes and make them a little more Lush and brooding kind of thing
And I did that with a number of tracks in those were the tracks I put me you know on the on the map to start
Now
Like I said out I wasn't doing anything as
Sonically
Amazing as you know some of the other artists that were like to do in their Prime at that time that I was trying to be like it
It wasn't even close
If I put the two mix
Two side-by-side my first stuff that broke me out
Versus the stuff I listen to it the time it was like night and day
I don't know what I'm f****** doing and
Disguise
He's got a really good engineer something
But melodically they were
Night that because this was more kind of
Bummed out shitting this was like the super happy
Yay
Electro kind of thing and then I thought
I calculated that hit my head that like whoa
Here's that
Sounds like it should be
A different style and
Lo and behold a kind of wasn't
The time and then
And then I was able to
To release you know
Maybe up to one album of that kind of stuff and get away with it without
Oversaturating my s*** and then defining that as me because
Again I had to be put on the map right so I got to do these things may have to do a set of them maybe like 4-5 track
So the people can kind of get an idea right
Not
Messerli who I am in its entirety but hey I'm here
Moving back to my point
Is that borrowing this you know kind of melodic structure from Nine Inch Nails and then
Growing some of this
Drum structure from
Well no one really
The Keg on every quarter now
I think that's everyone ever
You know taking that idea and applying it
To you know what was being played at the time
That's what worked
I'm not saying going to do that
Is already been done
So take the thing that hasn't been done before and then applied in there and then just try it out
See if it works
The nature of electronic music is that you know it's something that you could do very you know solitary and and have your own ID
Just do that so
You see that a lot in electronic music you don't see a lot of
I do also
And then when you do well
How much of that is
You know his drinking buddy that
Got in on the deal and doesn't do s*** you know
Then that happens to
I think electronic music
Now see no personality like mine because
I'm not I'm not a team player like
I can work with others on and you know and then that kind of thing but
Tamia just always ends in you no disagreement about like you know them both Discord than that cord and then you're kind of
You don't come straight into his ideas and you're constrained to are there
Constraint your ideas kind of thing so
For me it doesn't work for others works brilliantly
So collaborations with me usually
Result in me having finishing
Sending someone else's amen
What you could use keyboard
Sola wanted that I just know I
Couldn't program that you could play better because you're a keyboard as store and then we'll try that out and then I'll see if I can integrated
Dairy
Mildly
Manipulated myself afterwards or something like that but
Or
Or a top-line for a vocal or something like that I've never
You know
Written attract in tandem with a songwriter and and then being all you know the keychain should go here and there
Everything is just like no here's
Are the rules here's the whole thing and you make it work for that and then I'll
Massage your back and that's kind of how I work
Self-doubt could come from anywhere
You don't have to be a musician to know
What self-doubt is yum
Or anything of the sort or even creative
You either
Are content with
Do you are and what you're doing and how you're doing it are you or you're not or sometimes you are sometimes you want but
Yeah that definitely is going to affect the way they
You do things because
You might be
We over critical of your idea and then it's like
It sucks
But it is cool that I get that because then you know
I work at it more you know when I find that I know
When I'm doing something in the middle to Millie I spent 2 hours on something that doesn't work we'll know I'd saved 2 hours
Next time I try to start it again
So
The process
It's quicker and then I know what
Waze to Route audio signal online stuff to do and just writing nail at the way I want it as opposed to trying to learn
Learn to do it again you know
I know when an idea is good and I don't know I know when it's bad you know when I know when to cut it off when it's like okay
This is just not happening
Information so
Just like
Stop
Beating your head off the desk and
Ncarb
And be done with it or at least put it in that stupid
Bowlero
Ideas
Sometimes I
Kick the dead horse a little too long and then that sucks but
As part of the process and then
You can't just discounted this time wasted you discounted us you know time
Experience game
Nothing's ever really finished you know you just
Satisfied
With the result because I mean I could I could go back to
To any of my releases and make them better
Or or change something or you know her take something out or put something different in this is
They never done
So just
You know
Blink like goodnight
And then let it let it sit before you do anything with it before you
Upload it to your
SoundCloud or whatever just let it sit for a couple days and then go back at it like two or three more time
Maxine on ninja
Have a listen through ninjas
See if you can hear anything different
AR
You know you know
There's going to be a threshold of course we're just like all right
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