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Mike my creation process is
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You know
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I like to I like to deprive myself of sleep
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I like to
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And work
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From 9 p.m. to
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7 a.m. and then the idea sometimes doesn't hit me or more often then I'll actually does hit me around 3 to 4 a.m.
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Immuno and then
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You know this is weird it's like egg because I'm my brain is in this weird euphoric
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State I guess
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Love no sleep that you know
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I start thinking of
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Or not
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Nnn start you know kind of getting more experimental things done and writing
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Melodies Inn in just becoming more efficient at
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Being not so critical
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God because I guess
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That's why you're not supposed to dry
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At like 3 or 4 in the morning after you don't having been up 24 hours prior because
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Do judgements not there you know you need in your
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Do not
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Critical thinking
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About you don't driving so you know he might doze off or you might just like kind of
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Falls out and do a thing so it's like
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But when you apply that to making music it's you know year
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You're not
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Inhibited by you know
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Some kind of stress that's going on that day or something like that or the stress of why this track isn't really working and
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You just kind of just doing it
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And
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Not
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Contriving anything you know
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And then sometimes that's just like kind of the flood gate opens and ideas come out and you get him down
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And you're like wow you know looking out at school and then you get excited about that and you start working on it now whether it's it's going to
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Turn into one of those things where you like
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Banging your head off the desk trying to get it finished but
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That doesn't matter it's just
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So rewarding ticket to come up with something that
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Doesn't sound like the same
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Punching your head off the desk ATM kind of stuff
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I I disassociate music from almost everything
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Which is kind of strange
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Because a lot of people are like
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A lot of other artists I know what you do music
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Feeling and it's this and that and then and to me it's not you know it's it's so disassociated from scenes
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So disassociated from
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People's personal habits
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And it's disassociated from body movement II disassociated from
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Everything I just emotionally
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Cut the head off a music
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They're going to go at it from a
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Let's just do it kind of
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A Bible you know that is so but that that's just me other guys need that connection they need the personal
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And I don't even think about s*** like that
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I get to ask that question a lot and you know it's like
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When you were making this how did you feel or how do you expect people to feel and it's like
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Did that wasn't even in the neighborhood you know I wasn't even in the on the planet
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I don't I don't think songs
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Unless you're
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Neil Young
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That storytelling with a music and and and stuff like that but but he DM
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I think it's
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Is pretty subjective I mean I could
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Say that it was
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Telling a story and then I could impose that story on everyone and
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And then that would be the
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You know the global opinion is a thing but I like
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I like that people can take away different things from the same body of work
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I'm so
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That's the way I go about making music
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Because I'm just
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Completely
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I've never found myself humming a tune on the couch
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In my head and picking up I got it and I'm going to go in the studio and then do it I just kind of
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Just go and
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Start doing it and then the ideas form as I'm doing it as opposed to
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Me trying to form a pre-existing idea in my head
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For me I can't sit down and say
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I'm work on the beginning intro of a song and polish it and then have it all good and great and then work after that
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And then do the middle section and then go to the end I can't work in a linear fashion
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When I start making music
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You know I sit down at the computer and just start plotting out Melody
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I mean cuz that's number one for me making a song as you know the
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Melodic structure the whole thing whether it's going to be like another
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The main
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Fraser Hall
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If you will
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You just go in and create don't worry about the sound don't worry about
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Yeah the mag so that's an an all these things cuz you know you want to hear this thing in all its Glory as your starting at which is never
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Going to happen
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It's just laying down all the face except maybe some minor rhythmic patterns or something like that
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Ijust 2
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You know keep the tempo or something for me to hear while I'm working on the melody so none of that stuff's really important
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Yeah maybe
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Like three-quarters through
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And then the last quarter the process would be you know refining everything and then I actually using the sounds I want to use
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Susan and the instruments that I want to use in that
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The drums and
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All all that stuff I want to use and then the last part is you know
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Coherently gluing it all together
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Mix it properly,
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So that's that's
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Pretty much
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The process
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90% of my time is just
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Goofing around and Eminem trying to come up with something then it is polishing the something that I came up with
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Mr. Potato Head
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I think I meant that like well a lot of
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Music software today is
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Widely accessible and available and you know cheapest not free
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So you know in and of course you can go in and grab
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Bstock libraries
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Basically pre-made music
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And
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Literally take you know
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234 bars this and then
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Some bars of that and then just
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Mix and match
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Stuff you know and then
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Get imprinted
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Call it a day and say hey I mean
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So that that's what I think I meant by that but then there's another way doing that too is if you're creating those
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Parts you could
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Kind of use that
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For your own good and you know
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You create all these ideas and then you create a folder or whatever
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Archival sister
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Start throwing all your bits and there's like
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When you're working on something and you do star Pasha
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Thinking wall
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Oh
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You know when you can grab this whole little recording or
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Hair clipper
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Whatever it is and then
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Just stick it in there and then
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There it is see you knowing if you have a large enough collection of
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Stockton over 10 years
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Making music
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Have a lot
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You can
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Just go into that
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Solar system and grab what you want
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The repetition and idioms important if you want to get the thing done
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On time and on budget
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That's a big one
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I mean
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Repetition is good
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In the sense that I can
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I can write a whole song and less than 16 bars
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It really truly I can do a whole track and less than 16 bars and then
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Once those 16 bars which is like what
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23 seconds
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Of music
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Is done
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And then it's all about arrangement
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I am to ranging that that 60 more even ate
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Or s*** if your Praises for
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You know it it's all about just you know lengthening a duplicating that whole thing across the board and then arranging it saying
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What comes in what goes out what gets modified what gets on modified
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But it's all the same thing
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Dad is so much easier than
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Then
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Starting you know your track and then trying to plot it all the way through and you know and then having cons
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Some changes cool that would be I am don't really hear that that much because
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Take a long time
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To wrap your head around
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It only takes me like
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Two or three days to write a track because I don't
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Even though it took me
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10 to 12 hours to come up with this stupid malady that
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Starting on a nail and then went up and down into this thing and then enzyme like a kind of resolve and then
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It sounds naturally being cycle that that takes time
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But once I've done that
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I feel so much better I'm like a lady I'm like the track is done and then was like everyone's like what you like
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Like maybe
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16 beats long and I'm like I do but it's done it's done in my head
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If I had any advice for you know the upcoming producers would be you know like
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You get on the map Honestly by Leading her by following
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Do you really do
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You get on the mat fight you know taking
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Pieces of stuff that are out there and I'm not talking about
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Sampling but ideas
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Structures in and stuff like that
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Drawing on what
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Doing it right now and then
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And then once you're up there
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That put you in a position of
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Power if you will too
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Going make changes
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I copied from everyone I copied from you know
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Melodically I copied
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It's from Nine Inch Nails
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Slii
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They copied from a bit of that and then and I think
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That was kind of
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A smart move on my part because
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I knew
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That a lot of this house in electronic music at the time when I started was very euphoric
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Very
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Pump Up the Jam really you know really like
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All major stuff
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Miami majors and key you know it was all very uplifting and
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How come no one's really done anything more you know
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Minor sustains kind of stuff minor
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16 seven notes
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And stuff like that
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I hear a lot of this
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Quick appreciation
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Pistachio
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I wanted to try and make something a little more melancholic and in terms of Melody that was more
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Like a downer kind of feel but keep that same tempo and then
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And instead of going so quick and
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Sharpen fast with my
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Appreciation song chord structures
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I'll just tell them down to like slower eighth notes and make them a little more Lush and brooding kind of thing
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And I did that with a number of tracks in those were the tracks I put me you know on the on the map to start
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Now
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Like I said out I wasn't doing anything as
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Sonically
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Amazing as you know some of the other artists that were like to do in their Prime at that time that I was trying to be like it
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It wasn't even close
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If I put the two mix
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Two side-by-side my first stuff that broke me out
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Versus the stuff I listen to it the time it was like night and day
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I don't know what I'm f****** doing and
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Disguise
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He's got a really good engineer something
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But melodically they were
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Night that because this was more kind of
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Bummed out shitting this was like the super happy
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Yay
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Electro kind of thing and then I thought
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I calculated that hit my head that like whoa
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Here's that
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Sounds like it should be
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A different style and
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Lo and behold a kind of wasn't
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The time and then
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And then I was able to
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To release you know
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Maybe up to one album of that kind of stuff and get away with it without
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Oversaturating my s*** and then defining that as me because
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Again I had to be put on the map right so I got to do these things may have to do a set of them maybe like 4-5 track
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So the people can kind of get an idea right
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Not
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Messerli who I am in its entirety but hey I'm here
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Moving back to my point
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Is that borrowing this you know kind of melodic structure from Nine Inch Nails and then
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Growing some of this
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Drum structure from
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Well no one really
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The Keg on every quarter now
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I think that's everyone ever
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You know taking that idea and applying it
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To you know what was being played at the time
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That's what worked
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I'm not saying going to do that
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Is already been done
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So take the thing that hasn't been done before and then applied in there and then just try it out
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See if it works
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The nature of electronic music is that you know it's something that you could do very you know solitary and and have your own ID
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Just do that so
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You see that a lot in electronic music you don't see a lot of
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I do also
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And then when you do well
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How much of that is
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You know his drinking buddy that
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Got in on the deal and doesn't do s*** you know
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Then that happens to
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I think electronic music
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Now see no personality like mine because
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I'm not I'm not a team player like
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I can work with others on and you know and then that kind of thing but
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Tamia just always ends in you no disagreement about like you know them both Discord than that cord and then you're kind of
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You don't come straight into his ideas and you're constrained to are there
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Constraint your ideas kind of thing so
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For me it doesn't work for others works brilliantly
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So collaborations with me usually
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Result in me having finishing
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Sending someone else's amen
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What you could use keyboard
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Sola wanted that I just know I
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Couldn't program that you could play better because you're a keyboard as store and then we'll try that out and then I'll see if I can integrated
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Dairy
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Mildly
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Manipulated myself afterwards or something like that but
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Or
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Or a top-line for a vocal or something like that I've never
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You know
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Written attract in tandem with a songwriter and and then being all you know the keychain should go here and there
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Everything is just like no here's
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Are the rules here's the whole thing and you make it work for that and then I'll
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Massage your back and that's kind of how I work
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Self-doubt could come from anywhere
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You don't have to be a musician to know
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What self-doubt is yum
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Or anything of the sort or even creative
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You either
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Are content with
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Do you are and what you're doing and how you're doing it are you or you're not or sometimes you are sometimes you want but
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Yeah that definitely is going to affect the way they
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You do things because
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You might be
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We over critical of your idea and then it's like
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It sucks
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But it is cool that I get that because then you know
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I work at it more you know when I find that I know
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When I'm doing something in the middle to Millie I spent 2 hours on something that doesn't work we'll know I'd saved 2 hours
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Next time I try to start it again
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So
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The process
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It's quicker and then I know what
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Waze to Route audio signal online stuff to do and just writing nail at the way I want it as opposed to trying to learn
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Learn to do it again you know
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I know when an idea is good and I don't know I know when it's bad you know when I know when to cut it off when it's like okay
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This is just not happening
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Information so
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Just like
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Stop
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Beating your head off the desk and
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Ncarb
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And be done with it or at least put it in that stupid
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Bowlero
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Ideas
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Sometimes I
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Kick the dead horse a little too long and then that sucks but
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As part of the process and then
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You can't just discounted this time wasted you discounted us you know time
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Experience game
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Nothing's ever really finished you know you just
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Satisfied
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With the result because I mean I could I could go back to
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To any of my releases and make them better
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Or or change something or you know her take something out or put something different in this is
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They never done
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So just
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You know
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Blink like goodnight
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And then let it let it sit before you do anything with it before you
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Upload it to your
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SoundCloud or whatever just let it sit for a couple days and then go back at it like two or three more time
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Maxine on ninja
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Have a listen through ninjas
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See if you can hear anything different
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AR
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You know you know
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There's going to be a threshold of course we're just like all right
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