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>>> TODAY, ON "ZIWE," I'LL BE
TALKING ABOUT WHITEWASHING.
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WHITEWASHING IS THE PROCESS OF
ALTERING IN WAYS THAT FAVOR,
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FIFA FI
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FEATURE OR CHARACTER.
HOLLYWOOD HAS A LONG, STORIED
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TRADITION OF WHITEWASHING.
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>> THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY.
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>> BUT THIS PHENOMENON HAPPENS
EVERYWHERE.
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EVERYTHING FROM CHILDREN'S TOYS
TO POP CULTURE.
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>> A LONG, LONG TIME AGO WHEN I
WAS REALLY LITTLE, I GOT KICKED
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OUT OF SCHOOL FOR HAVING BRAIDS
IN MY HAIR.
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>> EVEN HISTORY GETS WHY IS
WASHED.
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ADAM PALLI HAS PLAYED EVERY TIME
SO I INVITED THE HILARIOUS ACTOR
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TO THE SHOW.
HE TALKS ABOUT FASHION FAUX PAS.
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>> AM I PULLING IT OFF A LITTLE?
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>> WHAT HE DOES TO FEEL BETTER.
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>> I GET MY HAIR BRAIDED.
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>> AND SO MUCH MORE.
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>> I WAS A MAN NOT YET OLD.
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>> AND LATER, WE TALK TO STACEY
ABRAMS FOR EVEN MORE INSIGHT.
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SO STAY TUNED.
IT'S GOING TO BE ICONIC.
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NO ONE'S GOING TO SAVE YOU.
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>> I'M HAVING A REALLY GOOD
TIME.
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>> "ZIWE" STARTS RIGHT NOW.
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>>> JOINING ME IS COMEDIAN,
ACTOR, ALLY, AND ASSET TO THE
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WHITE COMMUNITY, ADAM PALLY.
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>> I DON'T KNOW THE WHITE
EXCOMMUNITY.
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>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
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>> OKAY, COOL.
OH NO.
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>> SO, FAMOUSLY --
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>> YES.
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>> THIS IS A PHOTO.
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>> OKAY.
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>> THAT YOU'RE IN.
EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT HERE, AND IS
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THIS ALLYSHIP TO THE BLACK
COMMUNITY?
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>> LOOK AT IT.
LOOK AT IT.
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>> FIRST OF ALL, AM I PULLING IT
OFF A LITTLE?
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WITH THE HAIR OFF MY FACE, YOU
CAN SEE MY FACE.
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NO.
IT WAS FOR A MOVIE.
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>> WHAT MOVIE?
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>> CALLED "DIRTY GRANDPA."
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>> WAS IT WORTH IT?
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>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
NOTHING I'VE EVER DONE WAS WORTH
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THAT.
BUT ROBERT DE NIRO WAS IN THAT
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MOVIE.
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>> YES.
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>> AND I REALLY WANTED TO WORK
WITH HIM BEFORE HE DIED.
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>> OH MY GOD, YOU CAN'T SAY
THAT, ADAM.
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BEFORE HE DIED?
HE'S STILL ALIVE.
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>> WHAT?
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>> YEAH.
SO, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS WORTH
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APPROPRIATING MY CULTURE,
THANKS.
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>> NO.
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>> WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO HAVE
YOUR HAIR CORN ROWED AGAIN?
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>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
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>> ABSOLUTELY NOT?
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>> NO WAY.
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>> THE PERSON GETS PAID IF YOU
LET THEM BRAID YOUR HAIR SO
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YOU'RE TAKING FOOD AND MONEY
AWAY FROM A HARD-WORKING
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STYLIST.
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>> COULD I PAY THE STYLIST AND
NOT GET MY HAIR BRAIDED?
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>> HOW MUCH CASH DO YOU HAVE ON
YOU?
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>> I HAVE A VENMO.
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>> YOU CAN'T VENMO REPARATIONS,
UNFORTUNATELY.
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YOU FAMOUSLY NAMED YOUR SON
DRAKE AFTER DRAKE.
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>> YES.
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>> WHY?
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>> HE HAS A LOT OF GOOD SONGS, A
LOT OF BAD SONGS.
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>> WHAT'S A GOOD SONG AND WHAT'S
A BAD SONG?
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>> I LIKE "NONSTOP" -- IS THAT
THE TITLE?
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>> YEAH, I LOVE THAT.
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>> THAT WAS A BANGER.
THAT'S A BANGER.
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>> YEAH, HE IS THE BEST JEWISH
RAPPER.
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>> DRAKE IS --
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>> HE'S LIKE PRINCE TO ME.
LIKE HE'S A ONE -- DRAKE HAS
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MORE HITS.
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>> HM.
NEXT QUESTION.
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>> YOU JUST WALKED RIGHT AWAY
FROM ME WHEN I SAID THAT.
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>> YEAH, I DID.
IF DRAKE'S NAME WAS DAQUON,
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WOULD YOU NAME YOUR SON AFTER
HIM?
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>> IF HE WERE THE BEST JEWISH
RAPPER.
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>> DAQUON PALLY.
I LOVE IT.
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DO I INTIMIDATE YOU, ADAM?
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>> NO, I LIKE BEING WITH YOU.
NO.
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I'M HAVING A REALLY GOOD TIME.
I'M HAVING --
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>> YOU'RE GREAT.
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>> I HAVE A GREAT TIME WITH YOU.
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>> LET'S CONTINUE.
YOU'VE BEEN KNOWN FOR ACTING OUT
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AT AWARDS SHOWS.
FAMOUSLY, I WATCHED YOUR SHORTY
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AWARDS.
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>> SO EXCITED TO BE PRESENTING
THIS GLASS VAGINA.
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I THINK A CAREER HIGHLIGHT WILL
BE WHEN I'M DONE.
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>> I WOULD DESCRIBE THAT AS A
COLORFUL EXPRESSION OF DISDAIN.
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I'M JEALOUS OF YOU, BECAUSE I
DON'T BELIEVE I COULD WILD OUT
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LIKE THAT.
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>> OH, I -- I THINK YOU'D BE --
I THINK YOU COULD.
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I REGRET -- I REGRET THAT.
I WAS YOUNGER, AND I --
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>> HOW YOUNG?
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>> 35.
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>> SO YOU WOULD SAY YOU WERE A
BOY?
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YOU WERE JUST BOY A BEING A BOY?
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>> NO.
I WAS A MAN NOT YET OLD.
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I -- UM --
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>> WHITE PRIVILEGE, WHAT IS THAT
LIKE?
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>> IT'S THE FIRST TIME I EVER
EXPERIENCED IT.
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>> IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER
EXPERIENCED IT.
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>> WHITE PRIVILEGE.
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>> IN MY HEAD, YOU ARE THE KING
OF CHAOS.
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WHITE MALE CHAOS.
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>> NO.
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>> YES.
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>> LIKE, I SEE THIS AS
ANTITHESIS.
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>> NO.
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>> BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE PRIM AND
PROPER, BECAUSE I GET DESCRIBED
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AS MEAN AND ANGRY.
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>> REALLY?
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>> EASILY.
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>> NO.
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>> YES.
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>> THAT SUCKS.
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>> THANKS FOR TELLING ME RACISM
SUCKS.
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>> YOU'RE WELCOME?
I DON'T -- I DON'T WANT TO BE
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THAT.
I DON'T HAVE -- I FEEL LIKE
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YOU'RE DESCRIBING MY JOKER
ENERGY.
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I DO NOT HAVE THAT.
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>> NO, I CAN'T.
I DON'T.
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>> WHY DO YOU KEEP LOOKING AT
THE CAMERAS?
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NO ONE'S GOING TO SAVE YOU.
NO ONE.
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>> REALLY?
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>> NEXT, ON "ZIWE."
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>>> WHAT'S THE ISSUE WITH
READING A MONOLOGUE?
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>> IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WRITTEN
IN MY VOICE.
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>> THE FOLLOWING FILM HAS BEEN
RATED "W" FOR WHITE NONSENSE.
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THIS IS THE INSPIRING TRUE STORY
OF A BLACK WOMAN WHO DARED TO BE
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ICONIC.
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>> WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR
YOU TODAY.
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I'M INTERVIEWING KIM JONG UN,
WHO'S SURE TO BE AN ICONIC HOST.
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FAMOUSLY, I'M YOUR HOST, ZIWE.
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>> FROM THE PRODUCERS OF "GHOST
IN THE SHELL," "ALOHA" AND
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EXODUS, GODS AND KINGS.
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>> I WANT TO UPLIFT OTHER
MARGINALIZED VOICES LIKE MINE.
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>> I'M SORRY BUT A DARK-SKINNED
GIRL LIKE YOU IS NEVER GOING TO
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MAKE IT IN THIS TOWN.
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>> A PERSON OF COLOR WHO NEVER
GAVE UP ON HERSELF.
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>> HOW MANY BLACK FRIENDS DO YOU
HAVE?
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>> IN THE WORDS OF JAMES
BALDWIN, TWO.
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>> SO, YOU HAVE BEEN EVERYWHERE
THIS YEAR.
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THE COVER OF "EBONY'S 30 WHO
LOOK UNDER 30."
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"TIME" MAGAZINE'S 100
AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
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AND NPR'S SEXIEST URBAN
INTELLECTUAL.
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>> SO, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE
YOUNG, GIFTED, AND BLACK?
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>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME,
OPRAH.
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>> BLACK LIVES MATTER.
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>> BLUE LIVES MATTER.
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>> BUT ZIWE WASN'T JUST AN
ENTERTAINER.
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SHE WAS A CIVIL RIGHTS ICON.
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>> ALL LIVES MATTER.
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>> HOLD UP.
I CAN'T ENDORSE THIS PROBLEMATIC
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BULLSHIT.
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>> SORRY, ZIWE, WE TOOK SOME
CREATIVE LIBERTIES.
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THAT'S HOLLYWOOD, BABY.
BUT YOU'LL BE PAID $2 MILLION
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FOR YOUR LIFE RIGHTS.
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>> [ BLEEP ].
MY [ BLEEP ].
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>> I'M ZIWI.
I'M AFRICAN, AND I THINK THE
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REAL RACISM IS AGAINST WHITE
PEOPLE.
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>> IT'S THE MOVIE "THE NEW YORK
TIMES" IS CALLING POWERFUL,
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NECESSARY, AND ACCURATE ENOUGH.
THIS FALL, TONY AWARD WINNER
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LAURA IS ZIWE.
ICONIC: THE ZIWE STORY.
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OUR BLACK ANCESTORS FOUND THIS
DREAM.
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>> AND WE'RE SURE ZENDAYA WASN'T
AVAILABLE?
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>> WE'RE BACK.
SO YOU'RE A VERY TALENTED
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COMEDIC ACTOR.
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>> THANK YOU.
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>> YOU'RE VERY, VERY FUNNY.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A
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MONOLOGUE AND YOU JUST HAVE TO
PERFORM IT THE WAY YOU WOULD,
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AND READ IT WITH HEART AND SOUL.
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>> I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
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>> YOU'RE MY GUEST.
PLEASE.
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>> I FEEL LIKE --
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>> WHAT'S THE ISSUE WITH READING
A MONOLOGUE?
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>> IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WRITTEN
IN MY VOICE.
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>> OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE AN
ACTOR.
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PLEASE.
ADAM.
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>> YEAH.
UM, ALL MY LIFE, I HAD TO FIGHT.
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I DON'T THINK THAT --
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>> KEEP GOING.
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>> I HAD TO FIGHT MY DADDY.
I HAD TO FIGHT MY UNCLES.
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AND I HAD TO FIGHT MY BROTHERS.
I DON'T -- THIS --
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>> HAVE YOU SEEN THIS MOVIE?
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>> IS --
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>> YOU KNOW THIS MONOLOGUE IS
ONE OF THE ICONIC PIECES OF FILM
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HISTORY.
SO, TO NOT DO IT JUSTICE AS AN
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ALLY --
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>> GIRL, CHILD AIN'T SAFE IN A
FAMILY OF MENS.
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BUT I NEVER THOUGHT I HAD TO
FIGHT IN MY OWN HOUSE.
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SCENE.
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>> WOW.
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>> I DON'T --
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>> DO YOU FEEL PROUD OF TAKING A
ROLE FROM A BLACK WOMAN?
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YOU DIDN'T ASK ME TO DO IT AND I
HAVE MY CARD HERE.
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INSTEAD, YOU READ IT.
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>> DID YOU WANT TO DO IT?
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>> I DID, BUT --
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>> DO IT.
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>> NO, THE MOMENT'S PASSED.
LET'S PLAY ANOTHER GAME.
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SO, YOU AND I ARE HOLLYWOOD
EXECS AND WE'RE CASTING THE
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FREDERICK DOUGLASS
STORY,
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STORSTORY, "AB STORSTORY,
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STORY, "ABOLITIONIST."
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>> SO, THAT LOOKS RIGHT TO ME.
IS THAT --
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>> CONTINUE.
THERE ARE NO WRONG ANSWERS, ONLY
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WRONG FRAMES OF MIND.
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>> SO, THEN, I THINK I'D WANT
THIS TO BE KIND OF LIKE THIS.
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THINK YOU COULD DO THAT?
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>> SO YOU WANT A BLACK WOMAN TO
TAKE ON AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF
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WORK.
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>> GOING BACK THERE.
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>> GOING BACK THERE.
CONTINUE.
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SO MANY TALENTED ACTORS.
WHAT, DO YOU NOT LIKE TILDA
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SWINTON?
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>> I DO.
I JUST GRABBED HER.
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I LOVE TILDA SWINTON.
DID SOMEONE SAY I DIDN'T?
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BECAUSE I LOVE HER.
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>> WE LOVE HER.
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>> SHE'S GREAT.
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>> SLAVE NUMBER FOUR, TILDA
SWINTON.
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>> THIS GAME IS VERY HARD.
I FEEL LIKE I SHOULDN'T BE
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PLAYING IT.
OH.
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>> WOW.
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>> YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED.
YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED.
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>> YOU'RE IN CHARGE, WHITE MAN.
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>> I LIKE THAT.
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>> IS THAT YOUR FINAL ANSWER?
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>> YES.
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>> PLEASE SIT DOWN.
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>> WELL, MY FINAL ANSWER IS YOU
TAKING ON TWO ROLES.
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>> FREDERICK DOUGLASS AND MADAM
C.J. WALKER.
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>> EMMA WATSON PLAYING BARACK
OBAMA.
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>> EMMA THOMPSON.
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>> WHATEVER.
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>> HOW RUDE.
THAT'S WHITE VIOLENCE.
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>> EMMA --
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>> NO, THAT'S ROBERTS.
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>> AND THEN EMMA WATSON.
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>> FROM "HARRY POTTER."
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>> AS NAT TURNER.
NOW THAT I'M LOOKING AT IT --
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>> TILDA SWINTON AS NAT TURNER.
WHY NOT JACOB OR DANNY DE VITO.
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>> I'M NOT ASSIGNED TO ONE
PERSON AND THAT IS A TRAVESTY
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BECAUSE RIGHT OFF CAMERA, THERE
IS A STACK OF BLACK ACTORS BUT
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YOU DIDN'T EVEN THINK TO GO
BEYOND THESE HEAD SHOTS BECAUSE,
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AGAIN, PREJUDICE IS ABUNDANT.
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>> DID I MISS THEM?
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>> YOU DID MISS THEM.
THEY'RE RIGHT OFF CAMERA.
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RIGHT OFF CAMERA.
YEAH.
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YEAH.
WHY DON'T YOU SEARCH.
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WHY DON'T YOU LOOK FOR BLACK
PEOPLE TO ELEVATE AND UPLIFT.
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OH, BECAUSE IT WASN'T HANDED TO
ME.
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IT WASN'T -- A NEW YORKER.
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>> YOU HAVE A --
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>> WHAT ABOUT THE RESILL YENT
SPIRIT OF NEW YORKERS SAYS, HEY,
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I'M GOING TO CAST EMMA THOMPSON
AS BARACK OBAMA.
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OFFENSIVE.
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>> THIS IS A NIGHTMARE.
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>> OFFENSIVE.
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>> THIS IS A TRUE NIGHTMARE.
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>> NO, IT'S NOT A TRICK.
THIS IS THE REALITY WE LIVE IN.
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YES, BARACK HAS BEEN ON STAGE.
WOW.
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WOW.
AND THEN I HAVE TO PLAY A MAN
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BECAUSE WE LIKE TO -- WE
HYPERMASCULINE WOMEN, BLACK
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WOMEN.
OH, HER ARMS ARE BEEFY.
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OH, SHE HAS AN ANGRY VOICE.
OH, SHE WALKS WITH A CERTAIN --
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>> THE BOARD IS --
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>> -- STEP, YOU KNOW?
AND RACISM IS APPARENT, AND I'M
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NOT SAYING THAT ADAM SAUL PALLY
IS A RACIST, BUT THE EVIDENCE
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SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
AND THAT'S BEEN THE SHOW.
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>> CAN I GET THAT OPRAH THING
OFF THE THING?
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>> THAT'S BEEN THE SHOW.
THANK YOU, ADAM PALLY.
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>> THANKS.
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>> HAVE A GOOD DAY.
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>> BYE.
DO I GET OUT?
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>> YEAH, LEAVE.
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>> OW.
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>> OH NO, HE'S HURT.
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>> HI.
I'M ZIWE.
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IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE
RIGHT, YOU GOT TO DO IT
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YOURSELF, BUT IF YOU WANT
SOMETHING DONE WHITE, WELL, YOU
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GOT TO MAKE A BIOPIC AND THEN
SHOOT IT IN A CAR.
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>> MISS HARRIET SAY WE GOT TO GO
THIS A WAY.
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>> THERE'S THE NORTH STAR.
WE'RE ON THE PATH TO FREEDOM.
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FREEDOM IS ABOUT TAKING RISKS,
AND I CAN'T TAKE RISKS WITHOUT
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KNOWING I HAVE A SPORTS BRA THAT
MOVES WITH ME AND MY LIFESTYLE.
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>> AS HARRIET TUBMAN, I'M THE
SPORTS BRA THAT'S HIGH
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PERFORMING.
I NEED IT TO STAY WITH ME AS I'M
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CROUCHING THROUGH THE TUNNELS OF
THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD.
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>> MY TITTIES ARE FREE AT LAST.
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>> MICHELLE, THIS IS SO
OFFENSIVE.
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READ YOUR SKETCH.
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>> OKAY.
I'M DOING A QUICK LITTLE
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ANALYSIS IF I WILL GET IN
TROUBLE FOR DOING THAT.
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BECAUSE I'M BLACK, NO, I WON'T.
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>> THE FOLLOWING IS A
CONVERSATION BETWEEN ZIWE AND
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HER COMPLICIT BLACK WRITER.
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>> EXTERIOR, SLAVERY, NIGHT.
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>> LET'S JUST STOP.
WHAT DOES EXTERIOR, SLAVERY
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MEAN?
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>> I FEEL LIKE THE TERM SLAVERY
IS ALL ENCOMPASSING OF, LIKE,
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WHAT EXACTLY IT IS I'M SEEING.
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>> WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SEEING?
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>> NIGHT.
DARK.
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FOREST.
TREES.
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IT'S OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE COLD.
OR MAYBE IT'S HOT.
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>> I SHALL
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>> I SHMICHELLE, YOU ARE SO
PROBLEMATIC.
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>> I'M SORRY.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK IN THE
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MIRROR.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I WINKED.
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I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY I
WINKED.
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>> LET'S CONTINUE.
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>> ZIWE, I'M AFRAID OF YOU.
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>> WHY AM I SO SCARY?
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>> BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET
ME IN TROUBLE.
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>> I'M GOING TO GET YOU IN
TROUBLE?
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I'M GOING TO GET -- THE WOMAN
WHO WROTE "MASSA SAYS" SAYS THAT
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I'M GOING TO GET HER IN TROUBLE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS LESSON
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HERE IS THAT YOU CAN BE BLACK
AND ANTI-BLACK.
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>> I AM PRO-BLACK.
I KNOW THE NATIONAL BLACK
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ANTHEM.
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>> SING IT.
LIFT EVERY VOICE AND SING
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TIL EARTH AND HEAVEN RING
RING WITH THE HARMONY OF
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LIBERTY
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>> DON'T CHALLENGE ME ON THIS
ONE.
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LET OUR REJOICING RISE HIGH AS
THE LISTENING SKIES
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LET IT RESOUND -- LET US MARCH
ON TIL VICTORY IS WON
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>> HASHTAG, EXTERIOR SLAVERY.
HOW ABOUT A MOVIE ABOUT ROSA
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PARKS?
NO?
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HOW ABOUT A MOVIE ABOUT ROSA
PARKS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF
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THE WHITE BUS DRIVER?
YEAH?
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WE GOT A DEAL?
HOLLYWOOD, BABY.
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>> YO, DUDE.
I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
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OKAY, I'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
DON'T TEACH YOU.
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>> NO ONE TAUGHT ME.
THEY DON'T TEACH YOU, NO, NO,
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LIFE IS CRUEL
IT'S THE WHITE ACTOR BLUES
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YO, FAM, MY NAME IS DREW, YOU
MIGHT KNOW ME FROM MY WORK IN
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TAMING OF THE SHREW, THAT'S
SHAKESPEARE IF YOU AIN'T AWARE
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00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:50,656
BUT I'M TIRED OF PLAYING PARTS
THAT ARE SO DARN SQUARE
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I WANT TO STAR IN PLAY WHERE
MY TALENTS CAN AWAKEN, GIVE ME A
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CHANCE TO FINALLY USE MY
JAMAICAN ACCENT LIKE BRAD PITT
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IN THAT MOVIE THAT MOST PEOPLE
DON'T KNOW EXISTS
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I WANT TO STAR IN A ROLE WHERE
I ROCK GOLD CHAINS ON MY NECK OR
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ON MY FEET LIKE SLAVERY, ACTING
IN THESE ROLES WOULD BE SO TIGHT
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BUT I CAN'T GO THERE BECAUSE I'M
WHITE
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IT'S NOT FAIR
TO YOU AND YOUR CAREER
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YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO SELL
DRUGS
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THEY DON'T TEACH THIS IN
SCHOOL, SO PLEASE BE AWARE, THIS
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IS THE WHITE ACTOR BLUES
SHIT'S STACKED AGAINST ME
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THIS IS THE WHITE ACTOR
BLUES
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I FEEL YOU, DREW, MY NAME IS
LEAH, WISH YOU KNEW FROM MY
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"WEST SIDE STORY" PLAYING MARIA
BUT THE EXECED TOLD ME I
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COULDN'T HAVE THE PART, THEY
WERE JUDGING ME BY WHITENESS NOT
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THE SIZE OF MY HEART
THE MUSICAL'S ABOUT A GIRL
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WHO'S ACTUALLY HISPANIC
I HIRED A TUTOR AND I ACTUALLY
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LEARNED SPANISH
I WANT A CHANCE FOR PEOPLE TO
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SEE ME AS MORE THAN THAT REALLY
GIFTED GIRL FROM TV, I'M OLDER
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NOW, I WANT TO CHALLENGE MYSELF
BUT THEY DON'T WRITE GOOD SONGS
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FOR WHITE WOMEN WHO CAN REALLY
BELT, I WANT TO SING LIKE EFFIE
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AND CELIE IN THE COLOR PURPLE,
ADD MORE TO THE EQUATION BUT I
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CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS BECAUSE I
AM CAUCASIAN
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IT'S NOT FAIR TO YOU AND YOUR
CAREER
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TO KNOW SPANISH
NEVER HEAR
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THEY DON'T TEACH THIS IN
SCHOOL, SO PLEASE BE AWARE
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JUST LET ME TRY
IT'S THE WHITE ACTOR BLUES,
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IT'S SO UNFAIR
IT'S SO UNFAIR
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>> WHAT'S MORE CHALLENGING THAN
BEING A BLACK WOMAN?
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BEING A WHITE WOMAN PLAYING A
BLACK WOMAN.
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>> SO, NEXT, WE'LL BE TALKING TO
NOVELIST, POLITICIAN, AND VOTING
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RIGHTS ACTIVIST, STACEY ABRAMS.
HELLO, LEADER ABRAMS.
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>> HI, HOW ARE YOU?
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>> SO, MY FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU
IS, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MORE
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RACIST, THE FILIBUSTER OR MITCH
McCONNELL?
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00:20:22,604 --> 00:20:27,875
>> IS THAT A TRICK QUESTION?
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>> DO YOU THINK THAT TODAY'S
REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ACTUALLY
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INTERESTED IN GOVERNING, OR ARE
THEY JUST MORE CONCERNED WITH
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COLLECTING POWER LIKE SOME SORT
OF DYSTOPIAN PYEONGCHANG GO?
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>> I THINK THAT THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY WRIT LARGE HAS BECOME SO
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FIXATED ON POWER, THEY FORGOT
ABOUT THEIR PURPOSE.
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THIS ISN'T ABOUT PARTISANSHIP.
IT'S NOT DEMOCRATS VERSUS
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REPUBLICANS.
IT'S REPUBLICANS VERSUS
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AMERICANS.
AND WHEN REPUBLICANS BELIEVE
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00:20:55,195 --> 00:20:58,597
THEIR ABILITY TO HOLD ON TO
POWER REQUIRES THE SUBLIMATION
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OF OTHER AMERICANS, THAT IS BAD,
AND REPUBLICANS ARE BETTER THAN
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THIS.
I'VE WORKED WITH THEM.
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00:21:05,437 --> 00:21:07,371
SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE
REPUBLICANS.
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>> WOW.
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>> AND MY POINT IS --
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>> BRAVE.
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>> AND MY POINT IS, IT'S NOT
ENOUGH TO SAY YOU BELIEVE IN
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AMERICA WHEN YOU DON'T BELIEVE
IN AMERICANS, AND WE NEED THEM
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00:21:18,246 --> 00:21:19,680
TO STAND UP FOR AMERICANS AND
THEIR RIGHTS TO VOTE.
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00:21:19,780 --> 00:21:22,649
>> YOU HAVE DEDICATED YOUR
CAREER TO MAKING SURE THAT EVERY
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AMERICAN CAN VOTE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO
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00:21:24,918 --> 00:21:28,387
LOOK TO YOU TO SAVE DEMOCRACY
EVERY TWO YEARS?
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00:21:28,487 --> 00:21:31,622
>> YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD SAVE IT
ONCE AND THEN JUST STOP BREAKING
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00:21:31,722 --> 00:21:32,623
IT, I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY.
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00:21:32,723 --> 00:21:36,993
>> DOES IT MAKE YOU
UNCOMFORTABLE THAT WHILE
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00:21:37,094 --> 00:21:39,795
UNCOMFORTABLE THAT WHIELL-MEANI
LIBERALS CONSIDER YOU THE PATRON
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SAINT OF ELECTIONS.
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00:21:41,097 --> 00:21:44,032
>> WHILE I APPRECIATE THAT,
THERE'S A BIT OF DISCOMFORTURE
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WHEN PEOPLE PERSONALIZE IT.
I'M GOING TO DISAPPOINT FOLKS.
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00:21:46,334 --> 00:21:51,904
I'M HUMAN AND I'M IN POLITICS.
IT IS IN THE FINE -- I WON'T SAY
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00:21:52,004 --> 00:21:53,873
THE FINE PRINT.
IT'S IN THE HEADLINE.
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00:21:53,973 --> 00:21:57,042
I NEED PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE THAT
I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING
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00:21:57,142 --> 00:21:58,343
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE AND
THE CHALLENGE WITH PUTTING
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00:21:58,443 --> 00:22:02,646
PEOPLE SO HIGH ON A PEDESTAL IS
THAT CREATES A REALLY LONG WAY
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TO FALL.
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00:22:03,947 --> 00:22:11,186
>> IS THE NIKI MINAJ FEATURE
ABOUT VOTER FRAUD IN THE SENSE
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THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST?
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00:22:12,253 --> 00:22:14,489
>> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
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00:22:14,589 --> 00:22:15,022
SORRY.
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00:22:15,556 --> 00:22:18,325
>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
MILLENNIALS, GENERAL
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MILLENNIALS, GENER Z, ZOOMERS, O
SEE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AS
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FAR RIGHT AND CENTER RIGHT
PARTIES WHO DON'T SEE THEMSELVES
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REFLECTED WITH PROGRESSIVE
POLITICS.
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00:22:27,132 --> 00:22:30,434
>> I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE WRONG.
I WOULD SAY THAT WE'VE GOT TO
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REMEMBER THAT JUST AS NEW
GENERATIONS COME, THAT DOESN'T
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MEAN THE OLD GENERATIONS LEAVE
THAT QUICKLY, AND WE'RE AT THIS
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00:22:35,271 --> 00:22:37,205
MOMENT WHERE WE'VE GOT A WHOLE
LOT OF PEOPLE.
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00:22:37,305 --> 00:22:40,842
>> TO DEATH?
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00:22:40,942 --> 00:22:43,711
>> WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE
HERE WHO ALL THINK THEY KNOW
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00:22:43,811 --> 00:22:47,113
WHAT'S RIGHT, AND SO THE BEST
WAY TO MAKE CERTAIN YOUR VOICE
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00:22:47,213 --> 00:22:50,949
IS THE PREDOMINANT ONE IS TO USE
YOUR NUMERICAL POWER.
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00:22:51,049 --> 00:22:57,754
THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OF GEN
ZERS AND GEN Y, AND IF YOU GUYS
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00:22:57,854 --> 00:22:59,523
CAME TOGETHER, YOU COULD TAKE
US.
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00:22:59,623 --> 00:23:05,895
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR
BOOK FOR A MOMENT, "WHILE
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JUSTICE SLEEPS."
I HEAR THAT IT'S BEING TURNED
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00:23:08,963 --> 00:23:11,598
INTO A TV SHOW.
ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO BLACK WASH
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HOLLYWOOD?
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>> I'M ATTEMPTING TO MAKE SURE
HOLLYWOOD IS REFLECTIVE OF THE
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BROAD SPECTRUM AVAILABLE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES, COMING TO A
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TELEVISION SIT NEAR YOU.
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>> GOVERNOR KEMP SIGNED A LAW
THAT HAS BEEN LABELED AS JIM
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CROW 2.0 AND HE SIGNED THIS IN
FRONT OF A PLANTATION PAINTING.
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IS THIS STORY LINE TOO LAZY?
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>> I TRY MY BEST TO STAY AWAY
FROM FARCE, AND YES, IT WAS
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COMPLETELY ON BRAND FOR HIM, AND
SADLY, A POOR CHOICE.
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ANY TIME YOU USE RACE AS A
PREDICATE FOR DENYING ACCESS TO
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THE VOTE, THAT IS JIM CROW.
THAT IS WRONG.
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AND IT SHOULD BE STOPPED.
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>> WOULD YOU SAY THAT
GERRYMANDERING IS REPUBLICANS'
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WAY OF WHITEWASHING THE VOTER
ROLLS?
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>> GERRYMANDERING IS WRONG,
WHETHER DEMOCRATS DO IT OR
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REPUBLICANS, BUT IN THIS CASE,
IT HAS BEEN DRIVEN BY TRYING TO
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KEEP PEOPLE OF COLOR FROM COMING
TOGETHER IN COALITION TO BUILD
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MORE POWER.
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>> SO, AS FAR AS ACTIVATING THE
VOTE, I HAVE A HIT SINGLE
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CALLED "MAKE IT CLAP FOR
DEMOCRACY."
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LADY LIBERTY, DROP IT LOW, DROP
IT LOW FOR DEMOCRACY.
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LADY LIBERTY, SHAKE THAT ASS,
SHAKE THAT ASS FOR DEMOCRACY.
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MAKE IT CLAP FOR DEMOCRACY.
MAKE IT CLAP FOR DEMOCRACY.
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MAKE IT CLAP FOR DEMOCRACY.
MAKE IT CLAP FOR DEMOCRACY.
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DO YOU THINK THAT THIS WILL
ACTIVATE YOUNG VOTERS?
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>> I BELIEVE IN MEETING PEOPLE
WHERE THEY ARE.
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I CAMPAIGNED AT ONE MUSIC FEST
AND DRAGON CON.
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I MAY NOT ACTUALLY CITE YOUR
LYRICS IN TOTAL BUT I WOULD
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CREATE A SPACE FOR YOU TO DO
WHAT YOU CAN TO BRING DEMOCRACY
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TO THE MASSES.
MAKE IT CLAP FOR DEMOCRACY
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MAKE IT CLAP FOR DEMOCRACY
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>> SO, I GUESS MY FINAL QUESTION
FOR YOU IS, CAN A REVOLUTION BE
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CAST WITH A BALLOT OR DOES IT
TAKE BLOODSHED?
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>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US NOT
NECESSARILY HAVE REVOLUTION BUT
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HAVE AN EVOLUTION WHERE WE LEAVE
THIS NOTION THAT POWER CANNOT BE
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SHARED.
IN DEMOCRACY, THAT'S THE WHOLE
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POINT.
I WANT US TO GET PAST THIS AND
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GET TO FIGHTING OVER THINGS JUST
BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE EACH
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OTHER, NOT BECAUSE RACE AND
GENDER AND CLASS ARE THE REASONS
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WE ARE EMBATTLED.
I'D JUST RATHER DISLIKE YOU FOR
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WHO YOU ARE.
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>> "WHILE JUSTICE SLEEPS."
STACEY ABRAMS, THANK YOU SO MUCH
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FOR COMING ON TO THE SHOW.
YOU ARE AN ICON.
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THIS IS OUR FINALE.
WOW, WOW, WOW.
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IF YOU COULD JUST LEAN IN.
YES.
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AND THAT IS -- THAT IS LADY
LIBERTY LEANING IN, IN REALTIME.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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>> ZIWE, YOU'RE AMAZING.
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>> STOP IT.
WOMEN SUPPORTING WOMEN.
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I LOVE THIS.
MARTIN HAD A DREAM.
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NEXT VERSE.
SING A SONG FULL OF THE HOPE
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THAT THE SOMETHING DON'T KNOW
SING A SONG
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BEYONCE DIDN'T HAVE THIS VERSE
IN "HOMECOMING."
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>> MY NINJA.
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>> MY NINJA.
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>> MY NINJA.
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>>
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>> MY
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