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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,511 --> 00:00:13,930 Up here, pretty much anytime you're not working, 2 00:00:14,014 --> 00:00:14,889 you're losing money. 3 00:00:15,473 --> 00:00:17,434 So that's kind of a kick to the nuts. 4 00:00:18,852 --> 00:00:20,603 Add insult to injury, I guess. 5 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:26,609 Now I got to hang out here and recover for, you know, a day or two. 6 00:00:33,158 --> 00:00:34,576 Here's our guy. 7 00:00:37,579 --> 00:00:39,831 He just pulled up in that silver truck there. 8 00:00:40,457 --> 00:00:45,920 Sees some nice rims and tires in the back of the diesel. 9 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:50,467 I went to confront the guy, and... 10 00:00:53,011 --> 00:00:54,262 Yeah, he just surprised me. 11 00:00:54,345 --> 00:00:57,223 He caught me off guard and cleaned my clock. 12 00:00:57,307 --> 00:01:01,227 Fucking knocked me straight to the ground, and it was over from there. 13 00:01:01,519 --> 00:01:02,562 Kicked the shit out of me. 14 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:06,733 This guy is what's wrong with Humboldt County. 15 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:10,236 It's been so cutthroat that people are just taking anything 16 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:11,780 they can get their hands on. 17 00:01:11,863 --> 00:01:15,742 You're seeing way more drug addicts, way more drug trade, 18 00:01:15,825 --> 00:01:18,703 like hard drugs, than you would before. 19 00:01:20,205 --> 00:01:23,083 You know, everything that people built over the past 20 years, 20 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:26,294 twenty-five years is in shambles now because of legalization. 21 00:01:28,546 --> 00:01:30,840 Doesn't feel like there's any reprieve, you know. 22 00:01:30,924 --> 00:01:35,386 The only time I feel like I'm really away from all of that pressure 23 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:38,681 is when I'm up the hill, you know, when I'm at my spot 24 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:40,683 and there's no way they can come get me. 25 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:06,519 Asha Kreimer was 26 years old at the time of her disappearance. 26 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:11,107 Asha had long, curly brown hair, brown eyes, 27 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:13,568 and speaks with a strong Australian accent. 28 00:03:14,152 --> 00:03:17,238 Asha was last seen wearing black skinny jeans, 29 00:03:17,322 --> 00:03:19,741 a dark gray hoodie, and she was shoeless. 30 00:03:20,617 --> 00:03:24,954 Asha's mother thinks that it's possible that Asha is suffering from amnesia 31 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:27,749 and is living with illegal marijuana growers. 32 00:03:29,709 --> 00:03:33,504 The first time I heard that Asha was missing, 33 00:03:34,631 --> 00:03:37,008 I couldn't get my head around the sentence 34 00:03:37,091 --> 00:03:40,720 because I've never had a sentence like that said to me, 35 00:03:40,803 --> 00:03:44,349 that you don't know where someone is, they've disappeared. 36 00:03:45,934 --> 00:03:49,812 The police, within two weeks, took me into a room by myself 37 00:03:49,896 --> 00:03:55,485 and sat me down and looked at me and said, "Your daughter's dead." 38 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:58,529 And I looked at both of them 39 00:03:58,613 --> 00:04:01,324 and I said, "No, you have no proof. 40 00:04:01,407 --> 00:04:02,450 You have nothing." 41 00:04:07,914 --> 00:04:12,460 I think the door is pretty closed with law enforcement 42 00:04:12,543 --> 00:04:16,422 in regards to Asha's case, because after their investigation... 43 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:21,135 they believed Asha committed suicide by jumping off a cliff. 44 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:29,435 Asha's mother, who is actually a nurse back in Australia, 45 00:04:29,894 --> 00:04:36,693 flies here every chance she gets, and she just drives from town to town. 46 00:04:40,822 --> 00:04:44,200 Who knows what you would do, being in this situation. 47 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:48,746 I mean, I'd probably do the same thing, 'cause you just don't know where to stop. 48 00:04:49,163 --> 00:04:53,334 Like, how do you turn your heart off to stop looking for your child? 49 00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:59,632 For 30 months now, I've been looking. 50 00:05:00,550 --> 00:05:02,844 This is my way of life now. 51 00:05:02,927 --> 00:05:05,555 I go back to Australia, back to work, 52 00:05:05,638 --> 00:05:08,599 and I save my money and I come back again... 53 00:05:10,268 --> 00:05:14,439 and follow leads, follow my intuition. 54 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:18,985 And follow my heart. 55 00:05:25,283 --> 00:05:27,910 There's so many of them there in Humboldt 56 00:05:27,994 --> 00:05:32,290 that have never been able to have some kind of closure. 57 00:05:35,501 --> 00:05:39,172 That's worth everything, you know. 58 00:05:44,218 --> 00:05:45,678 The Alderpoint 8, 59 00:05:46,679 --> 00:05:48,097 they're heroes to me. 60 00:05:49,766 --> 00:05:52,310 They're heroes to me. I don't care what the law says. 61 00:05:53,603 --> 00:05:56,105 And I heard that a couple of them were murdered. 62 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:58,191 And I don't know why they were murdered. 63 00:05:58,816 --> 00:06:03,112 But, man, I am so grateful, 64 00:06:03,654 --> 00:06:06,783 'cause if it hadn't have been for those guys, 65 00:06:06,866 --> 00:06:08,868 we wouldn't be having this conversation. 66 00:06:09,744 --> 00:06:14,082 Buzz, my brother, he wants to meet these guys so bad. 67 00:06:14,165 --> 00:06:16,459 That's his-- That is 68 00:06:17,210 --> 00:06:20,296 his ultimate wish and goal in life right now. 69 00:06:23,383 --> 00:06:25,635 Couple days after the murder, 70 00:06:25,718 --> 00:06:28,971 a couple of people from the ranch were going out 71 00:06:29,055 --> 00:06:31,599 with a bunch of stuff they pilfered 72 00:06:31,682 --> 00:06:33,518 from the alleged. 73 00:06:33,601 --> 00:06:36,687 I recognized the, uh... 74 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:39,232 fishing poles of Garret's. 75 00:06:39,732 --> 00:06:44,028 And I said, "I know who they belong to, and they don't belong to you. 76 00:06:44,112 --> 00:06:47,198 They're not going with you." So I lifted them off the truck. 77 00:06:48,324 --> 00:06:51,411 I'd like to get the fishing poles back to Val. 78 00:06:52,537 --> 00:06:54,163 - Have you ever met him? - Never. 79 00:06:54,539 --> 00:06:56,499 Did you know Val was in Vietnam? 80 00:06:56,582 --> 00:06:57,625 That's... 81 00:06:59,293 --> 00:07:00,211 news. 82 00:07:00,711 --> 00:07:02,046 How does that make you feel? 83 00:07:04,715 --> 00:07:05,925 Impressed. 84 00:07:06,008 --> 00:07:06,968 Why? 85 00:07:09,387 --> 00:07:15,893 That he has gone through what he's gone through and what he went through before. 86 00:07:16,394 --> 00:07:19,981 That stiffens my resolve, 87 00:07:21,816 --> 00:07:23,568 knowing he's a brother. 88 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:42,170 There's a difference between a case being unsolvable than unwinnable. 89 00:07:44,130 --> 00:07:47,633 A confession made under duress 90 00:07:47,717 --> 00:07:51,429 such as the one the "alleged" made that night 91 00:07:52,138 --> 00:07:53,931 was not going to fly in court. 92 00:07:55,099 --> 00:07:59,979 So, to make it winnable, you have to look somewhere else. 93 00:08:03,941 --> 00:08:08,321 I was told that someone was actually there at the time of Garret's murder. 94 00:08:09,572 --> 00:08:14,494 He was very close to the alleged, and he knew Garret. 95 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:18,122 I've met him. 96 00:08:18,456 --> 00:08:22,418 Garret brought him and three other guys up at one point. 97 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:26,380 He slept in our guest room, yeah. 98 00:08:29,008 --> 00:08:30,968 It was the first and last time I saw him. 99 00:08:35,056 --> 00:08:37,600 We'd been looking for him for a while. 100 00:08:38,518 --> 00:08:42,563 Most recently, all the databases were pointing to San Diego. 101 00:08:43,064 --> 00:08:45,274 But look at this. 102 00:08:45,358 --> 00:08:48,569 Checking out his Facebook, I know this bar. 103 00:08:49,278 --> 00:08:51,113 This is in southern Humboldt. 104 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:56,285 I mean, he's not hiding. He put it right on Facebook. 105 00:08:57,203 --> 00:08:58,871 He feels safe by now. 106 00:08:58,955 --> 00:09:00,957 I mean, it's been over five years. 107 00:09:04,460 --> 00:09:07,922 We were trying to pin down where he was living. 108 00:09:09,215 --> 00:09:12,760 One of the photos is right in front of a fence. 109 00:09:13,469 --> 00:09:15,805 Someone just happened to recognize that fence. 110 00:09:16,264 --> 00:09:19,433 That was a huge break in locating him. 111 00:09:29,860 --> 00:09:31,862 Let's just talk about the approach. 112 00:09:31,946 --> 00:09:37,660 It's about no one gets hurt and everyone goes home to their family. 113 00:09:37,743 --> 00:09:38,703 Aaron on walkie. 114 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:43,583 I just saw a white pickup truck pull up in front of the place. 115 00:09:45,167 --> 00:09:46,252 That's Gus. 116 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,255 That it? Is that his? 117 00:09:52,174 --> 00:09:53,009 Hey. 118 00:10:09,108 --> 00:10:10,026 He's scared. 119 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:16,657 I told him that I wanted to thank him for his help, 120 00:10:16,741 --> 00:10:18,701 and he said, "Well, what helped you?" 121 00:10:18,784 --> 00:10:21,162 And I said the fact that you told someone 122 00:10:21,245 --> 00:10:26,917 that the alleged coerced you into helping bury the body. 123 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:30,421 And, you know, he completely denied that. 124 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,216 Um, he said that he wasn't on the mountain, 125 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:37,928 that he didn't want to be anywhere near the alleged. 126 00:10:39,889 --> 00:10:41,682 He's definitely afraid of him. 127 00:10:42,016 --> 00:10:45,895 You could see it in every part of his person. 128 00:10:46,270 --> 00:10:49,273 He said, "He choked me out for a pack of cigarettes." 129 00:10:50,524 --> 00:10:52,068 He got really nervous. 130 00:10:52,151 --> 00:10:54,195 He thought I was working with law enforcement, 131 00:10:54,278 --> 00:10:56,113 and I told him that wasn't true. 132 00:10:56,197 --> 00:10:59,158 And he said he wanted an attorney. 133 00:11:00,284 --> 00:11:04,497 I think he was there. I think he was there when it happened. 134 00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:07,083 Only two people know. 135 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:13,923 On Murder Mountain, people have gone missing, 136 00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:17,093 and people have information about where they are, where they're buried. 137 00:11:17,176 --> 00:11:20,054 And they're reluctant to come forward 138 00:11:20,137 --> 00:11:21,681 and talk to us about what they know 139 00:11:21,764 --> 00:11:23,641 because the fact that there might be an illegal industry 140 00:11:23,724 --> 00:11:25,184 may bring heat on them. 141 00:11:26,477 --> 00:11:29,230 This community, they would never trust us before, 142 00:11:30,106 --> 00:11:32,024 but that's what they have to do. 143 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:35,277 If they want crime solved, then they're gonna have to trust us. 144 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,408 Talking about the case of Garret Rodriguez. 145 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:43,536 We want them to come forward. 146 00:11:44,328 --> 00:11:47,665 We need them to come forward to help solve that crime. 147 00:12:19,697 --> 00:12:22,283 In order to be ableย to afford to be 148 00:12:22,366 --> 00:12:26,579 a farmer these days, you have to go extremely big. 149 00:12:26,662 --> 00:12:29,707 I don't think that a lot of the mom-and-pop shops, like myself, 150 00:12:29,790 --> 00:12:30,916 have a chance. 151 00:12:35,212 --> 00:12:36,547 There are gonna be... 152 00:12:37,214 --> 00:12:41,260 very well-funded corporations getting involved in this industry. 153 00:12:43,304 --> 00:12:45,389 Big companies, Coke, 154 00:12:45,473 --> 00:12:49,810 every brand is trying to capitalize on weed. 155 00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:52,688 They have a lot more money to spend, 156 00:12:52,772 --> 00:12:55,316 and we're living on way smaller margins. 157 00:13:00,196 --> 00:13:02,656 We're in the end of the first season. 158 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:04,909 I'm already one of the last men standing here. 159 00:13:04,992 --> 00:13:07,703 I used to have 50 neighbors down my road. 160 00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:09,205 Now I have four. 161 00:13:09,288 --> 00:13:11,582 The legalization, it's already wiped them out. 162 00:13:11,665 --> 00:13:14,627 I think if I can keep all my guys working, 163 00:13:15,211 --> 00:13:17,755 and if I can make enough to live, 164 00:13:18,380 --> 00:13:19,673 I'll be happy with that. 165 00:13:24,512 --> 00:13:25,930 I hope we can make it. 166 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:30,017 I hope that our kids and our families can continue this great life 167 00:13:30,100 --> 00:13:31,894 and get to live here. 168 00:13:31,977 --> 00:13:35,523 I know that a lot of people are moving and selling their farms, and so, 169 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:39,944 to me, that's like a little bit of someone's dream is dying 170 00:13:40,027 --> 00:13:42,530 when that happens, and that affects everybody here. 171 00:13:43,614 --> 00:13:46,033 A lot of these small farms decided that together, 172 00:13:46,116 --> 00:13:48,536 we are more powerful, and if we all band together, 173 00:13:48,619 --> 00:13:50,704 we can be a market presence. 174 00:13:53,916 --> 00:13:58,504 All of these farmers, they are contributing to the brand True Humboldt. 175 00:14:01,715 --> 00:14:04,134 It's driven by our culture and our passion. 176 00:14:06,428 --> 00:14:07,513 We're doing everything. 177 00:14:07,596 --> 00:14:11,976 We're using our life savings to try to make this business go against the bigwigs. 178 00:14:20,985 --> 00:14:26,031 I decided to go legal 'cause I don't want to be hiding 179 00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:29,910 from law enforcement. I don't want to be living that lifestyle. 180 00:14:29,994 --> 00:14:32,872 I want cannabis to become normal. 181 00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:38,127 Legalization's very costly. It's very expensive. 182 00:14:39,169 --> 00:14:42,548 so I think it's going to keep the criminal-minded people 183 00:14:42,631 --> 00:14:47,261 out of the industry and it will just be the core community members. 184 00:14:49,972 --> 00:14:52,141 The county's not all about making money in this, 185 00:14:52,224 --> 00:14:54,727 but money is what scares people into compliance. 186 00:14:57,438 --> 00:15:00,065 One thing that's very clear with legalization is, 187 00:15:00,149 --> 00:15:03,110 we have a black and white market. 188 00:15:04,153 --> 00:15:06,780 Under Proposition 215 and medical marijuana, 189 00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:08,824 there's a whole lot of gray out there. 190 00:15:09,283 --> 00:15:11,577 So now with the passage of Prop 64, 191 00:15:11,660 --> 00:15:14,997 we know exactly who is legitimate and who is not. 192 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:19,501 The Humboldt County Planning and Building Department 193 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:23,005 is using high-resolution satellite imagery. 194 00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:27,593 If they see a garden, they can check the assessor parcel number, 195 00:15:27,676 --> 00:15:33,015 and if it doesn't match up with somebody who has signed up to be a legit grower, 196 00:15:33,098 --> 00:15:36,769 then that gives them permission to send out a letter, 197 00:15:36,852 --> 00:15:38,020 an abatement notice. 198 00:15:39,146 --> 00:15:40,439 On the note, it says, 199 00:15:40,522 --> 00:15:43,817 "These are the environmental issues that we see on your property." 200 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:48,739 And they're given a strict time and date where they need to remedy this 201 00:15:48,822 --> 00:15:51,450 or there's gonna be $10,000 per day fines. 202 00:16:07,549 --> 00:16:12,888 From the other property being decimated to being arrested, 203 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,682 having to do a bit of jail time, 204 00:16:15,224 --> 00:16:18,143 it's been one of the hardest years I've ever had up here. 205 00:16:23,941 --> 00:16:26,068 I was pretty sure that this entire season was a waste, 206 00:16:26,151 --> 00:16:29,697 it was done for, but with a bit of hard work and some ingenuity, 207 00:16:29,780 --> 00:16:31,615 you'd be amazed what you can come up with. 208 00:16:33,867 --> 00:16:36,745 We've gotten some plants from a friend 209 00:16:37,204 --> 00:16:40,541 whose entire operation got shut down from the abatement letters. 210 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:44,294 That pretty much gave me the basis to get this new grow started. 211 00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:50,592 This spot, just barely purchased it and made the best of it. 212 00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:53,679 Coming out here and just kind of starting from scratch. 213 00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:58,267 The cops and the feds have been busting a lot of grows around Humboldt lately. 214 00:16:58,350 --> 00:16:59,935 Sheriff's Office, search warrant. 215 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,649 Fifty thousand plants last week or something 216 00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:08,193 that they've eradicated on five properties. 217 00:17:11,572 --> 00:17:13,490 Just wiping people out. 218 00:17:15,075 --> 00:17:18,954 They fine you until your property value reaches, 219 00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:20,748 and then they seize your property. 220 00:17:21,331 --> 00:17:22,916 They're tearing my friend's house down. 221 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,836 She has ten days, and she's lived in that home for 20 years. 222 00:17:26,336 --> 00:17:29,006 People are losing their places to live all over the county. 223 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:33,052 We're coming after you, whether it's through an abatement letter 224 00:17:33,135 --> 00:17:35,137 or the sheriff's office knocking at the door 225 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,264 and taking their plants and taking people to jail. 226 00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:41,393 I've got no intention of going legal or permitting. 227 00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:45,522 That didn't stop them 20 years ago. It's not gonna stop us now. 228 00:17:47,941 --> 00:17:50,736 Police show up, we're just as well-armed as they are. 229 00:17:51,403 --> 00:17:52,988 People will just start shooting. 230 00:18:13,383 --> 00:18:15,094 I'm looking forward to meeting him. 231 00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:21,642 I hope that it's not traumatic for him to come up here. 232 00:18:23,769 --> 00:18:25,312 I hope that doesn't happen. 233 00:18:32,236 --> 00:18:35,781 Barely any sunlight hits the ground because there's so many trees. 234 00:18:43,872 --> 00:18:45,374 Beautiful trees, man. 235 00:18:49,586 --> 00:18:51,672 It's an amazing place up here. 236 00:18:53,048 --> 00:18:55,300 I can see why Garret loved it here. 237 00:19:02,057 --> 00:19:06,311 Wish I had have come up here when I was planning on it just to see him. 238 00:19:07,104 --> 00:19:09,606 I should have, man. I should have. 239 00:19:13,861 --> 00:19:15,612 Wow, missing. 240 00:19:17,906 --> 00:19:19,658 I wonder how old that is. 241 00:19:23,453 --> 00:19:26,039 We still have a lot of unsolved homicides, 242 00:19:26,123 --> 00:19:29,251 lot of missing persons cases over the last 20, 30 years. 243 00:19:30,210 --> 00:19:33,922 But one thing that's very clear with legalization is, 244 00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:36,508 we have a reduction in those now. 245 00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:42,639 It is an end of an era, I believe. 246 00:19:42,723 --> 00:19:46,810 After five years, I think we are going to see a totally different Humboldt County. 247 00:20:00,073 --> 00:20:02,993 The parcels that we're visiting today 248 00:20:03,076 --> 00:20:06,872 are not in the county process for commercial cannabis. 249 00:20:06,955 --> 00:20:10,334 They're not in the application process, they have no interim permit, 250 00:20:10,417 --> 00:20:12,211 and they have no permit issued. 251 00:20:13,253 --> 00:20:14,338 Any questions? 252 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,550 All right, so let's gear up here. 253 00:20:19,593 --> 00:20:22,054 Then we'll get in our caravan formation. 254 00:20:32,439 --> 00:20:34,942 Do you think you have the element of surprise this morning? 255 00:20:35,025 --> 00:20:37,027 It's a good chance the neighborhood knows. 256 00:20:37,527 --> 00:20:42,574 Phone calls that there's a caravan heading east on Alderpoint Road... 257 00:20:43,700 --> 00:20:47,120 and that there's a chipper in the caravan. They always like to point that out. 258 00:20:49,998 --> 00:20:53,335 We've seized enough firearms 259 00:20:53,418 --> 00:20:57,464 that we don't take our security lightly. 260 00:20:57,547 --> 00:21:03,971 We always go into a situation and treat it like it's an unknown threat. 261 00:21:10,227 --> 00:21:11,895 One X ten, units out. 262 00:21:25,993 --> 00:21:27,828 Sheriff's Office, search warrant! 263 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:34,501 Sheriff's Office, search warrant! If you're inside, announce yourself. 264 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:47,681 Search warrant. Come to us. 265 00:21:48,932 --> 00:21:51,018 How many other people are in the house? 266 00:21:51,101 --> 00:21:52,769 All right. Come here. 267 00:21:54,604 --> 00:21:58,942 So you do realize that you need a permit with the county of Humboldt. 268 00:22:00,027 --> 00:22:04,281 I just work here. My boss is on top of all the paperwork. 269 00:22:04,364 --> 00:22:06,700 -So you're not familiar with this process? -No. 270 00:22:06,783 --> 00:22:08,285 -Who's your boss? -Joe. 271 00:22:08,744 --> 00:22:13,290 Without any permits with the county that you're operating in, 272 00:22:13,373 --> 00:22:15,083 then it's illegal. 273 00:22:31,975 --> 00:22:33,769 Hey, Bob, it's Kerry Ireland. 274 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:36,688 Yep, we're in Rancho. 275 00:22:36,772 --> 00:22:40,150 We're trying to make the final determination 276 00:22:40,233 --> 00:22:44,029 whether this guy has got all the necessary permits. 277 00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:47,574 Yep. 278 00:22:49,159 --> 00:22:50,077 Perfect. 279 00:22:54,831 --> 00:22:56,166 What's your name, partner? 280 00:22:56,249 --> 00:22:57,501 Chris. 281 00:22:57,584 --> 00:23:01,213 -All right, your paperwork's in order... -Okay. 282 00:23:01,296 --> 00:23:03,673 As far as with the county and with the state, 283 00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:05,759 so we're gonna get you out of handcuffs. 284 00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:10,263 So thanks for your cooperation. I appreciate you having your paperwork, 285 00:23:10,347 --> 00:23:15,560 like, ready and in order, 'cause that makes our job a lot easier. 286 00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:17,104 -Thank you. -Your stuff's all ready. 287 00:23:17,187 --> 00:23:18,647 All your paperwork's right there. 288 00:23:21,608 --> 00:23:23,568 Hey, can I see your state permit again? 289 00:23:24,986 --> 00:23:28,615 Like, I've never even seen this. All right, this is what I wanted to see. 290 00:23:28,698 --> 00:23:31,410 Perfect. Thanks again, man. I appreciate it. 291 00:23:35,997 --> 00:23:37,582 That scared the shit out of me. 292 00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:41,962 We have an incorrect parcel, 293 00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:45,590 because all the parcels are small and close by. 294 00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:49,553 This parcel is in the permit process... 295 00:23:50,554 --> 00:23:55,725 in good standing with the county of Humboldt and the state of California. 296 00:23:56,685 --> 00:24:01,481 This is the ultimate goal regarding, you know, Proposition 64 297 00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:04,317 and commercial cannabis cultivation. 298 00:24:06,611 --> 00:24:07,571 Right here. 299 00:24:09,489 --> 00:24:11,950 Forty-seven and 30, we'll head down the road. 300 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,001 I was told they had the wrong address. 301 00:24:21,751 --> 00:24:24,921 Whoever's in charge of checking these permits 302 00:24:25,005 --> 00:24:28,550 should come up with a better policy, rather than just coming in, guns blazing. 303 00:24:29,092 --> 00:24:33,180 We understand accidents happen, but they could hurt somebody, you know. 304 00:24:33,263 --> 00:24:36,641 Yeah, I thought they were gonna eradicate our crop. 305 00:24:36,725 --> 00:24:38,560 Oh, my God, dude! What would happen? 306 00:24:38,643 --> 00:24:41,646 Like, what are they gonna do to rectify that? What do we do? 307 00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:45,859 We've had to shift our own beliefs 308 00:24:45,942 --> 00:24:48,028 and our own attitudes towards marijuana, 309 00:24:48,111 --> 00:24:50,363 because we saw them as the enemy, 310 00:24:50,447 --> 00:24:53,492 and then now we have legitimate business owners. 311 00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:58,038 They look at me a little strangely, thinking suspicious, and they say, 312 00:24:58,121 --> 00:24:59,372 "We used to be on other sides." 313 00:25:00,415 --> 00:25:02,876 We want to build that trust. 314 00:25:05,378 --> 00:25:07,005 It's going to take a transition. 315 00:25:07,631 --> 00:25:11,718 For a community to work, you have to trust the law enforcement, 316 00:25:11,801 --> 00:25:13,345 and they're gonna have to trust us. 317 00:25:13,845 --> 00:25:17,057 So it's something we're gonna have to work on as we move forward. 318 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:46,545 I had to give up the black market in order to pursue this, this way. 319 00:25:48,338 --> 00:25:49,798 I want to pick some. 320 00:25:50,715 --> 00:25:53,468 To bring my family into the fold is everything. 321 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:55,387 I was doing this without them. 322 00:25:57,138 --> 00:26:02,018 It was a form of protection, you know, like if anything was to happen, 323 00:26:02,102 --> 00:26:05,230 it was just me, you know. The wife can still take care of the kids. 324 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:11,486 And now that everything's gone legal, now I'm bringing them in. 325 00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:14,239 So now it's time for them to learn the business. 326 00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:17,075 The Sun goes like this, Molly. 327 00:26:17,993 --> 00:26:22,414 It rises up there and then it sets over our house over there. 328 00:26:22,497 --> 00:26:24,833 I envision people coming in here, uh, 329 00:26:24,916 --> 00:26:29,379 getting unique strains, stuff they can't get anywhere else in the world. 330 00:26:30,964 --> 00:26:35,885 People come in and they do a tasting on our farm and get some good pot, 331 00:26:35,969 --> 00:26:38,096 some blackberry jam. 332 00:26:38,513 --> 00:26:40,807 Uh-oh. 333 00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:44,185 Create a nice little tourism spot. 334 00:26:45,186 --> 00:26:49,190 Maybe even a bud and breakfast too and then from there, 335 00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:51,484 they come and they check out other farms, you know. 336 00:26:53,236 --> 00:26:54,070 It's my name. 337 00:26:54,154 --> 00:26:55,905 It'll be a unique opportunity for them 338 00:26:55,989 --> 00:26:57,949 to come and see where it's actually done too, 339 00:26:58,033 --> 00:27:00,577 I think, you know, where it started from. 340 00:27:05,248 --> 00:27:06,750 There's a story behind all these farms, 341 00:27:06,833 --> 00:27:08,793 and I think people would be interested in it. 342 00:27:09,294 --> 00:27:11,546 -Come see the puppy puppies! -Puppy puppies! 343 00:27:12,339 --> 00:27:15,175 It's time to grow up. And... 344 00:27:16,051 --> 00:27:19,220 well, leave the outlaw stuff for the younger generation. 345 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,680 John. 346 00:28:11,773 --> 00:28:13,233 -Hey. -Val. 347 00:28:13,316 --> 00:28:15,568 Reilly, good to meet you, man. 348 00:28:15,652 --> 00:28:17,112 Good to meet you. 349 00:28:17,195 --> 00:28:19,114 I feel like-- I feel like I know you. 350 00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:23,451 Think we met before? No, I just-- 351 00:28:23,952 --> 00:28:27,497 I was just thinking, I didn't thank you for what you did. 352 00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:32,377 And if it hadn't have been for what you guys decided to do, 353 00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:36,423 it would have been all still a big mystery, you know. 354 00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:42,554 I can only imagine what you were going through. 355 00:28:43,138 --> 00:28:46,766 I was hoping for some closure for you somewhere along the line. 356 00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:50,478 Well, you made the biggest closure anyone has made, you know. 357 00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:53,064 Thank you. I really appreciate that. 358 00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:57,694 Well, you know, I'm eternally grateful to you, man. And... 359 00:28:58,153 --> 00:28:59,779 No, there's no need to say that. 360 00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:02,574 -Well, it's true. -It's just a case of right and wrong. 361 00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:10,623 I believe that these are yours, rightfully. 362 00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:12,459 Yeah. 363 00:29:12,792 --> 00:29:16,588 We'd go down to Baja and catch a ton of fish, 364 00:29:16,671 --> 00:29:19,799 and this is the one that I gave him. 365 00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:23,887 Thank you again. Another reason to thank you. 366 00:29:25,013 --> 00:29:26,806 You're welcome. You're more than welcome. 367 00:29:30,643 --> 00:29:35,064 What is it that moved you to do what you did, 368 00:29:35,648 --> 00:29:37,233 to find out about Garret? 369 00:29:38,443 --> 00:29:39,402 Just... 370 00:29:40,069 --> 00:29:42,947 -I felt-- -Something must have happened or... 371 00:29:43,031 --> 00:29:48,912 I started thinking about fatherhood and how you must feel... 372 00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:51,080 not knowing. 373 00:29:52,957 --> 00:29:56,628 Trying to place myself in your mindset... 374 00:29:57,879 --> 00:30:04,761 and just the turmoil that I know that I wouldn't be able to handle personally. 375 00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:11,559 I have great respect for you to have persevered what you have. 376 00:30:12,268 --> 00:30:17,607 Well, I didn't know what else to do. I thought about joining him. 377 00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:18,983 I honestly did. 378 00:30:19,567 --> 00:30:25,949 I know there were just days I would just be in my house, 379 00:30:26,032 --> 00:30:27,534 crying my eyes out, 380 00:30:28,368 --> 00:30:30,787 and then the next day would be the same thing... 381 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:35,166 And I was getting pretty tired of it. 382 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:37,210 -I can imagine. -And... 383 00:30:38,419 --> 00:30:40,296 You didn't know one way or the other. 384 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:44,300 -That would drive me crazy. -Yeah. 385 00:30:45,134 --> 00:30:47,637 I was already crazy, I think. 386 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,266 Oh, look at who you're talking to. 387 00:30:51,349 --> 00:30:53,226 Well, we're both members of the club. 388 00:30:53,309 --> 00:30:54,769 Yes, we are. 389 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,729 I'll be 70 in November. 390 00:30:56,813 --> 00:30:58,189 -No kidding? Wow. -Yeah. 391 00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:01,150 I'll be 71. 392 00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:03,152 -Oh, no kidding. -Yeah, in October. 393 00:31:03,444 --> 00:31:05,530 That's crazy. 394 00:31:08,032 --> 00:31:10,410 John, do you mind if I ask? If... 395 00:31:11,035 --> 00:31:12,704 If this guy goes to trial, 396 00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,545 would you be willing to say anything? 397 00:31:20,628 --> 00:31:21,713 Surely. 398 00:31:22,297 --> 00:31:23,131 Really? 399 00:31:23,214 --> 00:31:26,217 Yes, for the end result of this, definitely. 400 00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:32,265 Are there any others that would come forward like that? 401 00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:37,353 My son will have to make his own decision, 402 00:31:37,437 --> 00:31:41,482 but knowing him as I do, I believe that he'll do the right thing. 403 00:31:45,945 --> 00:31:47,614 Introduce you to his father. 404 00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:49,449 This is my son, John. 405 00:31:49,532 --> 00:31:51,117 -John, glad to meet you. -This is Val. 406 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,913 -Nice to meet you. -Thank you for being Garret's friend. 407 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,666 -You know... -You don't have to thank me for that. 408 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:13,389 Who was there that night? 409 00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:14,599 Well, Bob... 410 00:32:16,017 --> 00:32:18,728 Neil, of course. Neil, Bob... 411 00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:20,855 Scott. 412 00:32:22,398 --> 00:32:23,399 Um... 413 00:32:27,236 --> 00:32:31,908 Yeah, that's about all I feel comfortable with. 414 00:32:36,496 --> 00:32:38,331 I can hear his laugh right now, 415 00:32:38,414 --> 00:32:39,791 and I can see his smile. 416 00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:45,171 Garret would talk about Mexico with a passion. 417 00:32:45,254 --> 00:32:48,049 He loved the water. He was always talking about fishing. 418 00:32:48,132 --> 00:32:51,010 Told me he was gonna take me down there fishing sometime, 419 00:32:51,094 --> 00:32:53,721 and I was looking forward to that. I definitely was. 420 00:32:55,682 --> 00:32:58,393 He's an extraordinary person, I'll have to say. 421 00:32:58,726 --> 00:33:01,354 People go in and out of your lives, you meet different people, 422 00:33:01,437 --> 00:33:02,855 but some people stick to your heart 423 00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:04,857 and really touch you inside. You know what I mean? 424 00:33:09,612 --> 00:33:12,031 Right after Garret had disappeared, 425 00:33:13,032 --> 00:33:16,911 I remember one day I went up to the alleged's house. 426 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:21,040 I'd go up there from time to time. 427 00:33:21,124 --> 00:33:23,292 I showed up and... 428 00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:26,796 somehow the conversation moved over to... 429 00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,383 I said, "Where's Garret?" It was a normal question. 430 00:33:30,466 --> 00:33:34,095 Nothing out of the ordinary. I didn't think anything of it at the time. 431 00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:37,932 And he said, "Oh, Garret's in Mexico. 432 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:40,685 He's fishing. He's having the time of his life." 433 00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:44,355 And I said, "That's weird because there's his surfboard, 434 00:33:44,439 --> 00:33:47,316 there's his fishing poles, and his truck's outside." 435 00:33:47,775 --> 00:33:50,528 He wouldn't go anywhere without his fishing poles and his surfboard. 436 00:33:50,611 --> 00:33:53,364 And when I said that, he just looked at me. 437 00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:57,118 Nothing to say. 438 00:33:58,327 --> 00:34:00,079 Just a look of, "Oh, shit." 439 00:34:01,956 --> 00:34:03,958 Right from that moment, I knew. 440 00:34:06,919 --> 00:34:09,964 We just started talking about it with different friends, 441 00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:11,549 and some people got together. 442 00:34:11,632 --> 00:34:14,844 Some people were fed up with it and got together and went and handled it. 443 00:34:20,558 --> 00:34:25,855 I got a text from my dad and actually went with him out to Jewett Valley, 444 00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:31,319 where I saw the alleged confess without a gun to him. 445 00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:37,241 Neil was like, "I know you did it. Just tell me. Come out right now. 446 00:34:37,325 --> 00:34:40,036 It'd be better if you just came out with it." 447 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:42,246 And he said, "Yes, I killed him." 448 00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:45,208 And he said, "He's over there." 449 00:34:46,876 --> 00:34:50,421 And I saw my dad grab the shovel and he started digging, 450 00:34:50,505 --> 00:34:53,925 and I got really aggravated at the alleged. 451 00:34:55,843 --> 00:34:58,513 I ran up and I hit him in the face as hard as I could, 452 00:34:59,013 --> 00:35:01,641 and I moved his face and pointed it towards my dad and I said, 453 00:35:01,724 --> 00:35:04,852 "You see that?" I was like, "He doesn't have to go through that." 454 00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:06,938 I was like, "That's not his job. That's yours." 455 00:35:07,855 --> 00:35:10,191 I said, "You should be digging that kid up. 456 00:35:10,274 --> 00:35:12,318 You don't have to put him through that." 457 00:35:14,403 --> 00:35:18,157 And my dad basically caught something 458 00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:23,204 and it seemed like a rock and it fell and it was Garret's shoe 459 00:35:23,287 --> 00:35:28,543 with about this much of very decomposed ankle 460 00:35:28,626 --> 00:35:30,795 and a little bit of bone sticking out. 461 00:35:31,462 --> 00:35:33,339 And I remember that very clearly. 462 00:35:36,717 --> 00:35:39,137 You left pretty much after this all happened, right? 463 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:40,179 Mm-hmm. 464 00:35:40,847 --> 00:35:43,891 What did you think when you heard your dad say that he would testify, 465 00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:45,184 he would go forward? 466 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:46,936 Good for him. 467 00:35:51,816 --> 00:35:52,984 Would you go forward? 468 00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:55,987 I probably wouldn't, to tell you the truth. 469 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,322 Why not? 470 00:35:59,073 --> 00:36:00,992 I just don't want to go in the courtroom. 471 00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:05,705 -Would you consider it? -Yeah. 472 00:36:08,708 --> 00:36:12,712 If it meant the difference between putting the alleged killer in jail. 473 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:16,090 That's the only reason I'd consider it. Of course. 474 00:36:16,883 --> 00:36:20,386 I hope they get him, but there's a good chance, 475 00:36:20,469 --> 00:36:22,847 you and me both know, that they might not. 476 00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:25,266 So I don't know. 477 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:30,855 It's kind of, like I said before, mixed emotions about the whole thing. 478 00:36:30,938 --> 00:36:34,400 Never know how it's going to turn out. It's really a roll of the dice. 479 00:37:08,309 --> 00:37:11,938 Well, as you can see, there is a lot of holes that have been excavated 480 00:37:12,021 --> 00:37:14,857 for the purpose of cultivation of marijuana. 481 00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:22,114 The best I can recollect of that night 482 00:37:22,198 --> 00:37:24,659 that the alleged killer... 483 00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:28,454 showed us the place 484 00:37:28,537 --> 00:37:32,750 where he had buried Garret Rodriguez... 485 00:37:33,668 --> 00:37:36,963 was one of these excavations. 486 00:37:37,964 --> 00:37:39,590 This could be the very hole. 487 00:37:55,439 --> 00:37:59,694 I don't think I'd be able to recover from losing a son 488 00:37:59,777 --> 00:38:04,198 so violently and thoughtlessly, and... 489 00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:10,162 and disposed of like garbage in a shallow grave. 490 00:38:13,499 --> 00:38:17,920 Hopefully, the powers that be will, in fact, 491 00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:22,466 investigate, prosecute, and persecute. 492 00:38:27,513 --> 00:38:28,764 Lawfully, of course. 493 00:38:36,022 --> 00:38:39,066 Do you think Garret's murder changed Murder Mountain? 494 00:38:42,945 --> 00:38:45,906 I think it definitely probably drew some lines in the community. 495 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:46,949 Um... 496 00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:51,120 I think some people that were-- I think some people found out exactly 497 00:38:51,203 --> 00:38:53,497 to what degree they were willing to outlaw. 498 00:39:00,546 --> 00:39:02,298 The good people that are here 499 00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:04,258 don't want to be about the Murder Mountain thing. 500 00:39:06,594 --> 00:39:08,596 If you've had somebody murdered on that mountain, 501 00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,890 and you've been through that whole process, 502 00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:12,391 you won't like it as much. 503 00:39:16,729 --> 00:39:18,773 There's a lot of good people on this mountain. 504 00:39:18,856 --> 00:39:20,274 A lot of good people. 505 00:39:20,358 --> 00:39:22,860 There's a lot of good people that got killed that were on this mountain. 506 00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:30,701 The legacy of Murder Mountain will always be there. 507 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:33,913 Legacies don't die. 508 00:39:35,122 --> 00:39:38,000 Hundred years from now, people will be talking about this. 509 00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:54,975 Humboldt County, we've been contrary our entire existence. 510 00:39:55,309 --> 00:39:59,230 We're different. We're the frontier. We're behind the bud curtain. 511 00:40:01,148 --> 00:40:04,485 We're more accepting of things of the outlaw nature. 512 00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:08,280 I think the pendulum swings. 513 00:40:09,949 --> 00:40:14,954 It goes from idyllic to chaotic, back and forth. 514 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,583 I can only hope that we've swung so far in one direction it's time to go back. 515 00:40:25,172 --> 00:40:26,882 I think history repeats itself. 516 00:40:28,384 --> 00:40:32,471 Where, in the future, cannabis will be regulated like alcohol, 517 00:40:32,763 --> 00:40:33,722 and... 518 00:40:34,223 --> 00:40:37,143 the people of the bygone era will be the heroes. 519 00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:44,066 To make them heroes or villains, for me, 520 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:46,485 it's something that I'm willing to leave in the air. 521 00:40:47,069 --> 00:40:48,404 I reserve judgment. 522 00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:30,613 People have been burying monies in these hills for-- 523 00:41:31,197 --> 00:41:33,240 well, before they grew pot here, even. 524 00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:40,039 I mean, you've got large amounts of cash, and you can't really use any banks, 525 00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:42,708 at least not any banks that won't ask questions. 526 00:41:43,542 --> 00:41:46,378 Then the only next logical step is to bury it, of course. 527 00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:52,468 So I got about 40,000 here. 528 00:41:58,390 --> 00:42:01,352 Some people go to jail, lose their property, whatever. 529 00:42:01,435 --> 00:42:03,145 God knows how much money they've got buried. 530 00:42:04,939 --> 00:42:08,734 The amount of money buried in these hills is probably pretty staggering. 531 00:42:12,696 --> 00:42:14,573 As long as there's money to be made out here, 532 00:42:14,657 --> 00:42:16,075 and, like, an idea, 533 00:42:17,451 --> 00:42:18,577 being free, 534 00:42:20,162 --> 00:42:21,664 as long as that still exists out here, 535 00:42:21,747 --> 00:42:24,166 there will always be outlaws here in Humboldt County. 536 00:42:26,502 --> 00:42:30,381 Maybe not many of us, but we'll still be here. 44407

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