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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,756 --> 00:00:07,567 -8 dead now, 2 injured. 2 00:00:07,591 --> 00:00:09,235 The suspect still on the loose. 3 00:00:09,259 --> 00:00:13,114 There is growing anxiety about when he'll strike again. 4 00:00:13,138 --> 00:00:16,075 -You have someone who I worshipped, 5 00:00:16,099 --> 00:00:18,203 who I was sexually involved with, 6 00:00:18,227 --> 00:00:21,039 who I loved, who I needed, 7 00:00:21,063 --> 00:00:24,167 and who knew how to pull all my strings. 8 00:00:24,191 --> 00:00:26,920 I trusted him completely. 9 00:00:26,944 --> 00:00:31,341 - 911? - My wife has been shot! 10 00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:34,010 -She's shot in the head. 11 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:37,931 -They have the most definite, promising, concrete leads 12 00:00:37,955 --> 00:00:39,265 that they have had at any point in this 13 00:00:39,289 --> 00:00:41,142 two-week-old investigation. 14 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:44,270 An eyewitness who last night caught a glimpse of the killer, 15 00:00:44,294 --> 00:00:47,815 his van, and the gun he may be using. 16 00:00:47,839 --> 00:00:49,734 -That was love. 21 00:02:14,384 --> 00:02:16,904 -After Linda Franklin's shooting, there's a five-day gap 22 00:02:16,928 --> 00:02:18,555 with no shooting. 23 00:02:22,225 --> 00:02:24,370 Sitting, just waiting, 24 00:02:24,394 --> 00:02:27,623 and high anxiety for something to come in. 25 00:02:27,647 --> 00:02:29,524 Hoping there's not another shooting. 26 00:02:33,695 --> 00:02:35,423 Its a terrible feeling, 27 00:02:35,447 --> 00:02:39,635 there's nothing we could do to move the ball forward, 28 00:02:39,659 --> 00:02:42,096 and we didn't want them to do another shooting 29 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,890 to make the whole thing start again. 38 00:04:04,744 --> 00:04:08,683 - Hello, this is a call from... - Lee Malvo. 39 00:04:08,707 --> 00:04:11,018 - an inmate at the Virginia Department of Corrections, 40 00:04:11,042 --> 00:04:14,063 {\an8}Red Onion State Prison. 41 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:17,024 {\an8}-41-year-old man, John Muhammad, 42 00:04:17,048 --> 00:04:19,110 {\an8}and a Jamaican-born teenager... 43 00:04:19,134 --> 00:04:22,613 {\an8}Sniper team that terrorized the Washington metropolitan area. 44 00:04:22,637 --> 00:04:25,700 {\an8}-19-11... I have one down, there's blood all over. 45 00:04:25,724 --> 00:04:27,326 {\an8}I'm at the Mobil gas station" 46 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:29,912 {\an8}-...the most intense manhunts in American history. 47 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:32,623 {\an8}-The serial killer hunting down random citizens. 48 00:04:32,647 --> 00:04:35,501 {\an8}-We have fear levels here that I think are higher 49 00:04:35,525 --> 00:04:37,295 {\an8}than they were after September 11th. 50 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:38,880 {\an8}-Please let me go! Let me go past!" 51 00:04:38,904 --> 00:04:41,299 -President Bush is talking about fighting Iraq, 52 00:04:41,323 --> 00:04:45,761 and we have a warzone right here in this own country. 53 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:50,933 -Ohh, oh, man, oh, man. 56 00:05:08,266 --> 00:05:11,078 -Sources tell NBC news that at least one witness spotted 57 00:05:11,102 --> 00:05:14,040 {\an8}the sniper inside the parking garage, 58 00:05:14,064 --> 00:05:16,542 {\an8}only 50 feet from the Franklins. 59 00:05:16,566 --> 00:05:20,171 -The witness saw a cream-colored van, taillight out. 60 00:05:20,195 --> 00:05:22,381 -If you know anybody that drives one of the vehicles 61 00:05:22,405 --> 00:05:24,342 that might... You might suspect... 62 00:05:24,366 --> 00:05:25,968 -Middle-Eastern male, dropped to one knee. 63 00:05:25,992 --> 00:05:28,971 -Described as having olive or darker-colored skin. 64 00:05:28,995 --> 00:05:30,515 -And he was able to accurately describe 65 00:05:30,539 --> 00:05:32,058 the type of weapon used. 66 00:05:32,082 --> 00:05:35,478 -The weapon was an AK-74 military assault rifle. 67 00:05:35,502 --> 00:05:37,146 -I've been in law enforcement long enough to know 68 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:43,069 that that degree of detail is so rare, 69 00:05:43,093 --> 00:05:48,491 and generally, when there is that much detail, 70 00:05:48,515 --> 00:05:50,201 it's not true. 71 00:05:50,225 --> 00:05:52,411 -Investigators probing the Falls Church shooting 72 00:05:52,435 --> 00:05:55,498 are looking at surveillance tapes from Home Depot. 73 00:05:55,522 --> 00:05:58,251 -And then there was really, really bad news. 74 00:05:58,275 --> 00:06:00,211 You hear this scream. 75 00:06:00,235 --> 00:06:02,338 "Oh, shit." 76 00:06:02,362 --> 00:06:06,366 -We looked at the video tape from inside the store. 77 00:06:08,660 --> 00:06:10,721 At the time of the shooting, 78 00:06:10,745 --> 00:06:13,832 this witness had not even left the store. 79 00:06:16,251 --> 00:06:17,770 So he was not out 80 00:06:17,794 --> 00:06:19,564 {\an8}in the parking lot when the shooting occurred. 81 00:06:19,588 --> 00:06:24,110 {\an8}-So, our ace, our crack, had just gone kaboom. 82 00:06:24,134 --> 00:06:28,489 We went back to him and ended up charging him with lying. 84 00:06:32,017 --> 00:06:34,745 -So, the folks who were leading the task force said 85 00:06:34,769 --> 00:06:37,456 "Hey, why don't you come over and share this with the media?" 86 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,958 It's like they didn't want to share that news, 87 00:06:38,982 --> 00:06:40,400 they wanted me to do it. 88 00:06:44,529 --> 00:06:47,091 It's been determined through further investigation 89 00:06:47,115 --> 00:06:50,553 that the information provided by one of the witnesses 90 00:06:50,577 --> 00:06:53,431 at the scene of the shooting in the Home Depot 91 00:06:53,455 --> 00:06:57,435 describing a cream-colored van with a malfunctioning taillight 92 00:06:57,459 --> 00:06:59,812 is not credible. 93 00:06:59,836 --> 00:07:02,648 -Their best witness from Monday night's shooting 94 00:07:02,672 --> 00:07:04,567 was a phony witness 95 00:07:04,591 --> 00:07:07,445 -Monday night's frantic search for a cream-colored van 96 00:07:07,469 --> 00:07:10,656 with a burned-out taillight was a wild-goose chase, 97 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,576 and the AK-74 semi-automatic rifle, 98 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,143 that was a lie too. 99 00:07:19,105 --> 00:07:22,668 -That little bit of hope we had with the witness information 100 00:07:22,692 --> 00:07:25,463 just was so heartbreaking. 101 00:07:25,487 --> 00:07:29,133 We really thought we were sent back to the... back to zero. 102 00:07:29,157 --> 00:07:30,676 We don't have any more than we had before 103 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:32,928 except a little white van. 104 00:07:32,952 --> 00:07:38,517 105 00:07:38,541 --> 00:07:44,106 106 00:07:44,130 --> 00:07:46,859 -The Capitol Area sniper has killed nine people. 107 00:07:46,883 --> 00:07:50,529 A law-enforcement army is after the shooter, or shooters, 108 00:07:50,553 --> 00:07:53,366 but so far none of the leads have paid off 109 00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:55,868 in what seems to have been false information. 110 00:07:55,892 --> 00:07:57,953 -We're traveling back. We had just spent 111 00:07:57,977 --> 00:08:03,525 {\an8}a really good vacation with my brothers and my dad. 112 00:08:09,072 --> 00:08:11,300 And we were hungry, and a Ponderosa, you know, 113 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:13,386 big dinner sounded good. 114 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:19,058 115 00:08:19,082 --> 00:08:24,462 116 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:35,724 117 00:08:38,226 --> 00:08:42,748 118 00:08:42,772 --> 00:08:44,458 -We were walking hand-in-hand, 119 00:08:44,482 --> 00:08:50,881 talking, and had the very familiar conversation 120 00:08:50,905 --> 00:08:54,033 of, "I love you." "No I love you more." 121 00:09:09,466 --> 00:09:13,595 "I love you more." "I love you infinity plus one." 122 00:09:22,645 --> 00:09:25,815 It was just being kids in love. 123 00:09:30,487 --> 00:09:36,534 128 00:10:13,780 --> 00:10:17,218 -I drove down from the entrance to the Ponderosa, 129 00:10:17,242 --> 00:10:20,054 and I saw a woman sitting on the sidewalk 130 00:10:20,078 --> 00:10:24,141 {\an8}cradling a man's head in her lap. 131 00:10:24,165 --> 00:10:25,643 I said, "What happened?" 132 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:28,938 She said, "I think my husband was shot." 133 00:10:28,962 --> 00:10:31,232 I said, "Where did the shot come from?" 134 00:10:31,256 --> 00:10:33,651 And she pointed straight down and said, 135 00:10:33,675 --> 00:10:35,260 "it came from down there." 136 00:10:37,887 --> 00:10:41,659 He's conscious. It's obvious that he's in some pain. 137 00:10:41,683 --> 00:10:46,747 She had a cloth on her husband's stomach, and I said, 138 00:10:46,771 --> 00:10:48,749 "I need to see the wound." 139 00:10:48,773 --> 00:10:52,795 And she lifts up the cloth, and underneath the cloth, 140 00:10:52,819 --> 00:10:59,885 there's this nickel-sized hole right in the top of his stomach. 141 00:10:59,909 --> 00:11:02,221 And it started oozing blood, and I said, 142 00:11:02,245 --> 00:11:03,973 "Okay, you... you can cover that back up. 143 00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:07,351 You're doing the best thing that you can do for this. 144 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:11,772 It's pretty simple, it's not rocket science." 145 00:11:11,796 --> 00:11:14,441 At that point, both the man 146 00:11:14,465 --> 00:11:16,902 and the woman laughed a little bit. 147 00:11:16,926 --> 00:11:20,948 And the man actually told me, that... he says, 148 00:11:20,972 --> 00:11:23,951 "Well, that's funny because my wife's a rocket scientist." 149 00:11:23,975 --> 00:11:25,077 And I looked at her, and she says, 150 00:11:25,101 --> 00:11:27,079 "Yeah, I'm a rocket scientist." 152 00:11:33,443 --> 00:11:38,132 -Jeff was starting to go into shock, and I told Jeff, 153 00:11:38,156 --> 00:11:40,593 you know, "You're going into shock, 154 00:11:40,617 --> 00:11:44,513 you need to stay with me, you need to stay awake. 155 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:47,683 You're going to want to go to sleep, you need to stay awake." 156 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:55,707 157 00:11:57,091 --> 00:12:05,091 158 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:08,811 -I was pretty much convinced I was gonna die. 159 00:12:13,232 --> 00:12:17,379 Stephanie was there with me, and I asked her to pray with me, 160 00:12:17,403 --> 00:12:19,048 you know, just have peace with God, 161 00:12:19,072 --> 00:12:22,301 and then... and then get on with whatever happened. 162 00:12:22,325 --> 00:12:24,470 -He lost 75% of his stomach, 163 00:12:24,494 --> 00:12:29,725 so they kind of sewed the pieces back together. 164 00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:33,228 -I could've, you know, bled to death. 165 00:12:33,252 --> 00:12:37,066 There's shrapnel that kind of went through and hit the liver 166 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:40,152 and a little bit in the intestine, 167 00:12:40,176 --> 00:12:43,489 but I survived. 168 00:12:43,513 --> 00:12:51,513 169 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:14,144 170 00:13:14,168 --> 00:13:16,188 -The effect on our relationship is I'm... 171 00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:19,984 I'm far more intentional about 172 00:13:20,008 --> 00:13:24,196 making sure that she knows... 173 00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:27,783 That she hears that I love her. 174 00:13:27,807 --> 00:13:29,934 -I love you too. 175 00:13:31,310 --> 00:13:34,564 176 00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:40,580 177 00:14:42,507 --> 00:14:48,072 178 00:14:48,096 --> 00:14:53,702 179 00:14:53,726 --> 00:14:55,621 -We continue to cover the story 180 00:14:55,645 --> 00:14:57,790 of a shooting in Ashland, Virginia. 181 00:14:57,814 --> 00:15:02,628 A 37-year-old man gunned down as he was leaving a restaurant. 182 00:15:02,652 --> 00:15:04,963 Officers suspecting it could be the work 183 00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:07,490 of the DC Area serial sniper. 185 00:15:14,372 --> 00:15:20,086 186 00:15:23,297 --> 00:15:26,259 187 00:15:37,645 --> 00:15:43,025 188 00:15:48,447 --> 00:15:52,427 189 00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:54,096 -You think they're doing a good job here? 190 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,348 -They're doing a fantastic job from what we hear, and... 191 00:15:56,372 --> 00:15:58,934 And obviously, as I said a moment ago, 192 00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:01,419 there's a lot more that we're not hearing about. 193 00:16:03,713 --> 00:16:05,065 -You don't have to be a rocket scientist 194 00:16:05,089 --> 00:16:06,817 to figure out we don't have squat. 195 00:16:06,841 --> 00:16:10,904 196 00:16:10,928 --> 00:16:12,698 -I think the general feeling was, 197 00:16:12,722 --> 00:16:17,494 "Man, something's gotta break, because we don't have anything." 198 00:16:17,518 --> 00:16:19,913 Well, homicide cases are made 199 00:16:19,937 --> 00:16:23,041 when there's just the tiniest little crack. 200 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:26,962 They just need a crack, and they fly through it. 201 00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:28,922 The problem was having the patience 202 00:16:28,946 --> 00:16:30,757 to wait for the crack to open, 203 00:16:30,781 --> 00:16:32,551 knowing people were getting killed. 204 00:16:32,575 --> 00:16:39,141 206 00:16:41,792 --> 00:16:43,228 -Witnesses also said that they heard 207 00:16:43,252 --> 00:16:44,563 a shot coming from the woods. 208 00:16:44,587 --> 00:16:46,190 Is that right behind the restaurant? 209 00:16:46,214 --> 00:16:48,317 -We're still trying to determine where the shot came from. 210 00:16:48,341 --> 00:16:50,819 We have several witnesses who have indicated that they... 211 00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:58,410 212 00:16:58,434 --> 00:17:00,078 -We looked at where the victim was 213 00:17:00,102 --> 00:17:03,272 and possible areas where the shot could have came from. 214 00:17:09,737 --> 00:17:12,424 The trail I was following was probably 25, 215 00:17:12,448 --> 00:17:14,242 30 yards into the woods. 216 00:17:17,787 --> 00:17:21,225 I finally came upon a tree. 217 00:17:21,249 --> 00:17:25,103 I looked up, there was a note pinned on the tree 218 00:17:25,127 --> 00:17:27,356 in a clear sandwich bag. 219 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:32,611 220 00:17:32,635 --> 00:17:35,989 It didn't appear to be there very long, 221 00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:37,449 so I was quite certain 222 00:17:37,473 --> 00:17:40,661 that it came from whoever did take that shot. 223 00:17:40,685 --> 00:17:48,685 224 00:17:50,403 --> 00:17:52,798 -The investigators notified us that they had found 225 00:17:52,822 --> 00:17:55,324 a very significant piece of information. 226 00:17:57,827 --> 00:18:00,871 It was a note left behind by the shooter. 227 00:18:03,291 --> 00:18:04,851 It's printed. 228 00:18:04,875 --> 00:18:06,937 It's not sophisticated looking or anything. 229 00:18:06,961 --> 00:18:10,941 It has little stars around it and it says, 230 00:18:10,965 --> 00:18:14,653 "For you, Mr. Police, call me God. 231 00:18:14,677 --> 00:18:18,657 Do not release to the press." 232 00:18:18,681 --> 00:18:23,245 -I thought, "Okay. 233 00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:25,289 Now we are going to get them, 234 00:18:25,313 --> 00:18:28,750 and we're going to get them sooner than later." 235 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:34,339 {\an1}"If stopping the killing is more important than catching us now, 236 00:18:34,363 --> 00:18:36,633 you will place $10 million 237 00:18:36,657 --> 00:18:40,679 in Bank of America account." 238 00:18:40,703 --> 00:18:42,597 -Part of me remembers thinking, 239 00:18:42,621 --> 00:18:44,725 "Did you just make that up? Did you just decide now, 240 00:18:44,749 --> 00:18:46,393 that since this is going so well 241 00:18:46,417 --> 00:18:48,228 and I've got everybody's attention, 242 00:18:48,252 --> 00:18:50,314 {\an1}now I'm going to ask for money? Or was this all along for money, 243 00:18:50,338 --> 00:18:53,692 and if it was, why not ask after the first shooting?" 244 00:18:53,716 --> 00:18:55,610 -"We will have unlimited withdrawal 245 00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:58,596 at any ATM worldwide." 246 00:19:00,181 --> 00:19:03,285 {\an8}-At the time, you could only draw like $200 from an ATM. 247 00:19:03,309 --> 00:19:05,162 {\an8}Like, what are you thinking? 248 00:19:05,186 --> 00:19:07,372 It's going to take... how are you going to get $10 million 249 00:19:07,396 --> 00:19:09,458 out of an ATM machine? 250 00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:11,418 And by the way, every time you go to the ATM machine, 251 00:19:11,442 --> 00:19:13,045 your picture is taken, 252 00:19:13,069 --> 00:19:16,381 so are they real, you know, about this? 253 00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:22,220 254 00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:28,042 255 00:19:51,774 --> 00:19:55,236 256 00:20:11,585 --> 00:20:17,007 257 00:20:18,884 --> 00:20:25,117 258 00:20:25,141 --> 00:20:27,953 -We have tried to contact you to start negotiation 259 00:20:27,977 --> 00:20:30,438 in Montgomery County, "Officer Derick." 260 00:20:33,274 --> 00:20:35,317 -We're taking thousands of phone calls. 261 00:20:37,361 --> 00:20:40,090 {\an8}But that afternoon, October 18th at about 4:30 262 00:20:40,114 --> 00:20:43,802 {\an8}one of those phone calls really raised my suspicions. 263 00:20:43,826 --> 00:20:46,430 When I picked up the phone, they said "Shut up and listen, 264 00:20:46,454 --> 00:20:49,474 I've got some information about who your snipers are." 266 00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:55,439 Good morning. Officer Baliles. 267 00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:57,190 We weren't lucky to get a recording, 268 00:20:57,214 --> 00:21:00,593 so I passed that information on to sniper investigation. 269 00:21:03,512 --> 00:21:05,115 I wasn't aware of what they were doing as far 270 00:21:05,139 --> 00:21:06,700 as any type of follow-up, 271 00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:09,995 until two FBI agents showed up at my desk and told me 272 00:21:10,019 --> 00:21:12,122 "Derek, we want you to come with us." 273 00:21:12,146 --> 00:21:13,874 That was a scary feeling. I'd never had the FBI 274 00:21:13,898 --> 00:21:15,816 telling me that type of thing before. 275 00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:31,433 -They asked me to listen to a recording of the 911 call 276 00:21:31,457 --> 00:21:34,895 that had come into a dispatch center three days previously. 277 00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:36,521 They put headphones on me 278 00:21:36,545 --> 00:21:38,923 and asked me to concentrate very carefully on it. 279 00:21:47,056 --> 00:21:49,868 And they asked me, "Does that voice sound familiar?" 280 00:21:49,892 --> 00:21:52,913 And I said "Yes, that's the same voice that I spoke to." 281 00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:57,584 282 00:21:57,608 --> 00:22:02,589 The investigators asked me, "What did they exactly say?" 283 00:22:02,613 --> 00:22:05,050 And I told them, "The caller wanted me 284 00:22:05,074 --> 00:22:06,635 to verify some information 285 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:09,763 about a crime that had occurred in Alabama." 286 00:22:09,787 --> 00:22:15,018 287 00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:20,256 288 00:22:31,642 --> 00:22:33,453 -Attempted murder investigation 289 00:22:33,477 --> 00:22:38,124 of black female Claudine Lee Parker, 290 00:22:38,148 --> 00:22:41,026 along with white female Kellie Adams. 291 00:22:43,988 --> 00:22:48,969 {\an8}-I just remember seeing a really bright light 292 00:22:48,993 --> 00:22:54,099 {\an8}and then having, like, this, like, a ringing in my ears. 293 00:22:54,123 --> 00:22:57,727 There was a flap of skin, a whole area here, 294 00:22:57,751 --> 00:22:59,062 was laying down on my chest. 295 00:22:59,086 --> 00:23:01,439 It was still connected, but barely, 296 00:23:01,463 --> 00:23:03,650 and it was laying down on my chest. 297 00:23:03,674 --> 00:23:08,280 And I could tell that there was something wrong with my jaw 298 00:23:08,304 --> 00:23:12,617 because there was movement where they shouldn't be, 299 00:23:12,641 --> 00:23:14,202 I couldn't talk. 300 00:23:14,226 --> 00:23:18,790 301 00:23:18,814 --> 00:23:22,961 -Claudine was closing up and getting ready to go to the game. 302 00:23:22,985 --> 00:23:25,338 {\an8}She was just excited about football. 303 00:23:25,362 --> 00:23:27,799 {\an8}She loved football. 304 00:23:27,823 --> 00:23:30,010 {\an8}They just said that she had been shot 305 00:23:30,034 --> 00:23:32,620 and killed during a robbery. 306 00:23:35,539 --> 00:23:38,310 I really didn't believe it. 307 00:23:38,334 --> 00:23:42,105 I thought that Claudine was supposed to live forever. 308 00:23:42,129 --> 00:23:46,526 She just enjoyed life. 310 00:24:06,612 --> 00:24:08,882 {\an8}-I would have been coming from this direction, 311 00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:12,844 {\an8}and the young man is going right behind the Krystal's. 312 00:24:12,868 --> 00:24:14,679 I pulled into an alleyway 313 00:24:14,703 --> 00:24:16,640 that was on the other side of the Krystal 314 00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:19,934 to where I would encounter the suspect. 315 00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:22,354 He then, of course, looked at me. 316 00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:25,732 He turned, reversed direction, and then he started running, 317 00:24:25,756 --> 00:24:30,695 I mean, basically until he... he hit a fence. 318 00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:33,573 I started running after him, but unfortunately, 319 00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,224 I lost sight of him. 320 00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:41,956 Witnesses saw a blue Caprice that was waiting. 321 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:45,960 They saw the suspect jump into the blue Caprice 322 00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:48,171 that subsequently took off. 323 00:24:48,195 --> 00:24:56,195 324 00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:57,389 {\an8}-From where I am standing here, 325 00:24:57,413 --> 00:24:58,890 {\an8}this is the edge of the building. 326 00:24:58,914 --> 00:25:01,226 {\an8}The grass field that we are looking at. 327 00:25:01,250 --> 00:25:02,835 He dropped a piece of evidence... 328 00:25:05,921 --> 00:25:07,565 that turned out to be the owners' manual 329 00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:09,299 for the Bushmaster rifle. 330 00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:14,906 It had 36 fingerprints of identifiable quality 331 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:16,491 in that magazine. 332 00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:22,580 333 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:25,667 The fingerprints were ran through the entire country. 334 00:25:25,691 --> 00:25:28,002 It did not strike anyone. 335 00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:29,629 It was very frustrating. 336 00:25:29,653 --> 00:25:32,048 I just could not do anything more with what I had. 337 00:25:32,072 --> 00:25:37,262 338 00:25:37,286 --> 00:25:39,097 Now some weeks have gone by. 339 00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:41,808 I received a call from a Sniper task force 340 00:25:41,832 --> 00:25:43,560 in Washington, D.C. 341 00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:45,687 They wanted all the elements of our case file 342 00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:48,898 up at the task force. 343 00:25:48,922 --> 00:25:50,650 And we delivered the gun catalog up 344 00:25:50,674 --> 00:25:52,801 with the 36 fingerprints in it. 345 00:25:56,722 --> 00:25:58,283 -Okay, now we got something. 346 00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:00,034 This is what we've been waiting for, 347 00:26:00,058 --> 00:26:01,411 something like this to happen. 348 00:26:01,435 --> 00:26:03,413 I thought to myself at the time, 349 00:26:03,437 --> 00:26:04,998 "That's the crack. Right there. 350 00:26:05,022 --> 00:26:06,624 They made a mistake." 351 00:26:06,648 --> 00:26:12,005 352 00:26:12,029 --> 00:26:17,385 353 00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:20,162 -In the letter left at the Ponderosa... 354 00:26:22,331 --> 00:26:26,728 there's a second page with a postscript at the bottom. 355 00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:31,024 It says, "Your children are not safe, anywhere, at any time." 356 00:26:31,048 --> 00:26:38,388 357 00:26:40,265 --> 00:26:44,245 358 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:46,372 -Well, you know, fear, it is just 359 00:26:46,396 --> 00:26:48,816 the most awesome emotion ever. 360 00:26:51,026 --> 00:26:56,925 And so that note, it just... It just drives fear. 361 00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:59,636 -It was a very chilling statement, 362 00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:01,387 a heartless statement, because you already knew 363 00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:03,223 that he had shot a child. 364 00:27:03,247 --> 00:27:06,375 And it was basically to say your kids aren't safe... period. 365 00:27:09,211 --> 00:27:13,233 -We will contact you at Ponderosa, 366 00:27:13,257 --> 00:27:17,028 Ashland, Virginia buffet, telephone number. 367 00:27:17,052 --> 00:27:21,658 368 00:27:21,682 --> 00:27:24,536 -So far, we had shown zero capacity 369 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,038 to provide any protection to anyone. 370 00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:29,541 There was a lot of concern that... 371 00:27:29,565 --> 00:27:31,751 That there would be open anger 372 00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:33,986 to not following their direction. 373 00:27:37,531 --> 00:27:40,009 -I had gotten the Ponderosa line 374 00:27:40,033 --> 00:27:44,556 redirected into the joint operations center. 375 00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:46,474 My job was to trace the call. 378 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,567 It went from weeks of not having anything to go on, 379 00:27:55,591 --> 00:27:57,443 and now the person that had been doing 380 00:27:57,467 --> 00:27:59,904 this could be on the phone at any second. 382 00:28:02,764 --> 00:28:10,764 392 00:29:42,698 --> 00:29:45,051 -The hostage negotiator said, "He's on the phone." 393 00:29:45,075 --> 00:29:49,138 And they showed me exactly which line he had called from. 394 00:29:49,162 --> 00:29:51,599 It had come back from a pay phone at a gas station 395 00:29:51,623 --> 00:29:54,001 in Richmond, Virginia. 397 00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:15,999 -The, uh, law enforcement down there, 398 00:30:16,023 --> 00:30:18,001 the people first to arrive reacted 399 00:30:18,025 --> 00:30:19,877 how you would. They're going to respond 400 00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:24,215 by trying to detain whoever was on the pay phone. 401 00:30:24,239 --> 00:30:27,385 And it turns out that there was a white van. 402 00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:34,058 403 00:30:34,082 --> 00:30:36,352 -We see live on the television, 404 00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:39,296 there's a take-down at a phone booth. 405 00:30:41,423 --> 00:30:43,401 -Very deliberately looking at the van, 406 00:30:43,425 --> 00:30:46,112 closing down the area here at Parham and Broad. 407 00:30:46,136 --> 00:30:47,363 -And we're like, "Okay, 408 00:30:47,387 --> 00:30:48,531 did they just arrest the shooter? 409 00:30:48,555 --> 00:30:52,702 Why don't we know what's going on?" 410 00:30:52,726 --> 00:30:56,706 -This Plymouth Voyager mini-van with temporary Virginia tags, 411 00:30:56,730 --> 00:31:00,626 driven by a man who sources say made a call from a pay phone 412 00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:04,422 believed to have been used by the sniper. 413 00:31:04,446 --> 00:31:06,591 -It would seem, based on the police presence 414 00:31:06,615 --> 00:31:11,095 that's still here, they have a very strong lead in this case. 415 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,265 423 00:32:15,725 --> 00:32:17,245 -We just decided we are going to go out, 424 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:21,165 make our statement and our brief to the media. 425 00:32:21,189 --> 00:32:23,000 So that if it's not them, 426 00:32:23,024 --> 00:32:27,028 we're still establishing a rapport and open communication. 427 00:32:29,156 --> 00:32:32,242 -I would like to start with a message. 428 00:32:34,703 --> 00:32:39,851 The person you called could not hear everything that you said. 429 00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:42,019 The audio was unclear. 430 00:32:42,043 --> 00:32:44,981 And we want to get it right. 431 00:32:45,005 --> 00:32:48,091 Call us back so that we can clearly understand. 432 00:32:51,595 --> 00:32:53,197 {\an8}-It would be inappropriate for me 433 00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:56,450 to say anything about the investigation to you. 434 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:59,477 -Moose saw our role as doing as we're told. 435 00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:05,251 {\an8}You help get out the information that I give you 436 00:33:05,275 --> 00:33:06,919 to help catch these people, 437 00:33:06,943 --> 00:33:10,006 and I'll decide when it's given and how it's given. 438 00:33:10,030 --> 00:33:12,216 Can you give us an update on what the status 439 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,218 is with regarding the investigation? 440 00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:16,846 -Again, it would be inappropriate for me to... 441 00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:19,557 -And I got news for you, that ain't the way it works. 442 00:33:19,581 --> 00:33:21,893 -Chief Moose, you communicate with somebody, 443 00:33:21,917 --> 00:33:24,770 {\an8}I mean, something is going on. - It's like, "Come on, bro, 444 00:33:24,794 --> 00:33:26,355 {\an8}you have no new material here?" 445 00:33:26,379 --> 00:33:27,773 {\an8}We're listening to sources 446 00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:29,734 {\an8}saying there's more to this thing, you know, 447 00:33:29,758 --> 00:33:32,069 {\an8}don't play me for no fool. - Thank you very much. 448 00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:36,657 -Chief, Chief, you've chosen to release very little. 449 00:33:36,681 --> 00:33:39,785 -Ma'am, again, it would be inappropriate for me to... 450 00:33:39,809 --> 00:33:41,370 -It's encouraging, I think, in some regards 451 00:33:41,394 --> 00:33:43,873 that they're having a conversation with the guy, 452 00:33:43,897 --> 00:33:45,750 {\an1}and they think it's the guy, and they don't think there's two g... 453 00:33:45,774 --> 00:33:48,794 I think that... don't you think that eliminates the two guys? 454 00:33:48,818 --> 00:33:50,546 -It would be inappropriate for me 455 00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:52,381 to comment at this time... - Comment at this juncture! 457 00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:56,969 -There's almost a desperation on the part of law enforcement 458 00:33:56,993 --> 00:34:00,223 to take this opportunity, if the shooter is serious. 459 00:34:00,247 --> 00:34:04,644 If he's not, that puts us back to square one. 460 00:34:04,668 --> 00:34:06,646 -Today, I think I finally realized 461 00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:08,606 that the cops may not have that much. 462 00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:10,274 - They don't. - I mean, if they've got to rely 463 00:34:10,298 --> 00:34:12,735 on the media and the press and the TV, 464 00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:14,403 God help them, you know? 465 00:34:14,427 --> 00:34:16,239 That's the bottom line. That's it, man. 466 00:34:16,263 --> 00:34:17,990 -There is someone out there killing people, 467 00:34:18,014 --> 00:34:21,077 and we'd like your help. 468 00:34:21,101 --> 00:34:22,995 -Investigators say as far as they can tell, 469 00:34:23,019 --> 00:34:25,790 those two men seized by a SWAT team 470 00:34:25,814 --> 00:34:28,334 at a pay-phone booth near Richmond, Virginia, 471 00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:30,336 are not tied to the sniper. 472 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,589 -It has been a day of dramatic developments in the sniper case, 473 00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:37,260 but by nightfall, it was the same unsettling story. 474 00:34:37,284 --> 00:34:39,971 The sniper remains at large. 485 00:36:16,132 --> 00:36:20,571 {\an8}-I had gotten up in the morning, Conrad left out to go to work. 486 00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:27,703 {\an8} 487 00:36:27,727 --> 00:36:30,706 You know, we said our goodbyes, our love yous, um, 488 00:36:30,730 --> 00:36:32,315 and he went on his day. 489 00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:36,194 And I went back to sleep. 490 00:36:38,321 --> 00:36:40,383 He picked a job that would provide, 491 00:36:40,407 --> 00:36:42,134 more so, for his family, 492 00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:46,329 and he was very well liked amongst his passengers. 493 00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:51,769 I remember on one of my birthdays, 494 00:36:51,793 --> 00:36:55,856 Conrad had the whole entire bus sing 495 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,298 "Happy Birthday" to me. 496 00:36:59,801 --> 00:37:03,697 I was like, "Babe, really?" 497 00:37:03,721 --> 00:37:07,034 But that was the cutest thing ever so, yeah, 498 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:08,619 I will always remember that. 501 00:37:14,441 --> 00:37:18,838 -This is the WTOP radio network, WTOP Washington. 502 00:37:18,862 --> 00:37:20,506 WTOP FM Warrington. 503 00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:22,532 {\an8}WXDR Frederick... 504 00:37:24,325 --> 00:37:26,095 -Slow ride out of Silver Spring into Bethesda 505 00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:28,204 begins just after Georgia Avenue. 506 00:37:35,211 --> 00:37:37,064 {\an8}-...construction ahead on the Outer Loop 507 00:37:37,088 --> 00:37:39,233 {\an8}right at the exit for 270 in the right lane. 508 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:40,818 If you stay with the Beltway past this point, 509 00:37:40,842 --> 00:37:42,862 they're working again to... 510 00:37:42,886 --> 00:37:46,306 511 00:37:54,105 --> 00:37:58,985 512 00:38:30,558 --> 00:38:34,187 513 00:38:42,695 --> 00:38:50,695 514 00:39:03,091 --> 00:39:04,902 -Another shooting in our area on a ride-on bus 515 00:39:04,926 --> 00:39:06,737 in the Aspen Hill section of Montgomery County. 516 00:39:06,761 --> 00:39:09,406 -The serial sniper may have struck again, 517 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:11,492 terrorizing the same Maryland community 518 00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:13,851 that already buried five of its own. 519 00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:21,835 -Back here in Montgomery County, right in the face of police. 520 00:39:21,859 --> 00:39:24,505 {\an8}-Aw, come on, man. 521 00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:26,257 {\an8}You know, we're... We're getting somewhere, 522 00:39:26,281 --> 00:39:27,633 {\an8}and they hit again and they're back 523 00:39:27,657 --> 00:39:29,343 {\an8}in Montgomery County. 524 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,930 It was kind of a real gut punch to everybody involved 525 00:39:32,954 --> 00:39:35,349 and, you know, in many ways, 526 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:38,185 we're thinking, we're back to square one. 527 00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:41,170 528 00:39:44,507 --> 00:39:46,110 -The victim was shot as he stood 529 00:39:46,134 --> 00:39:47,945 on the top step of a ride-on bus, 530 00:39:47,969 --> 00:39:50,030 at Grand Pre Road and Georgia Avenue, 531 00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:51,615 no word on his condition. 533 00:39:55,643 --> 00:39:59,456 -When I turned the television on, um, the news was on. 534 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,837 - Again, back now looking live... - And it was a ride-on bus, 535 00:40:04,861 --> 00:40:08,591 and it had police tape around it. 537 00:40:10,158 --> 00:40:12,994 At that time... 538 00:40:17,332 --> 00:40:19,935 At that time, I kept calling his phone, 539 00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:24,231 and there was no answer. I called several times. 540 00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:28,319 And, um, something was telling me it was him. 541 00:40:28,343 --> 00:40:33,115 542 00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:35,200 And then I received a call 543 00:40:35,224 --> 00:40:37,036 basically telling me that, you know, 544 00:40:37,060 --> 00:40:40,080 Conrad was at the hospital, he had been shot, 545 00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:42,207 and I need to get to the hospital immediately. 546 00:40:42,231 --> 00:40:49,590 547 00:40:49,614 --> 00:40:52,116 -I get notified... We had another shooting. 548 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,891 It's ours. It's back in the county. 549 00:40:58,915 --> 00:41:01,769 And when I arrived, of course the media already knew 550 00:41:01,793 --> 00:41:04,772 that the shooting had taken place. 551 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:07,316 - Can you tell us what hospital? - On the sniper, 552 00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:09,360 and why the chief didn't talk to us last night. 553 00:41:09,384 --> 00:41:12,321 -They were amassed, and they had a million questions. 554 00:41:12,345 --> 00:41:14,490 -Can you tell us if there were any witnesses that saw this? 555 00:41:14,514 --> 00:41:16,325 -Was he getting on or getting off at that point? 556 00:41:16,349 --> 00:41:18,452 -Do you have a description of the shooter or any vehicle? 557 00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:20,812 -It was just extremely hectic. 558 00:41:22,897 --> 00:41:25,501 -Investigators can be seen searching for clues 559 00:41:25,525 --> 00:41:28,712 in the community park across from where the bus was parked. 560 00:41:28,736 --> 00:41:31,632 562 00:41:34,033 --> 00:41:35,594 -As we were coming up the Beltway, 563 00:41:35,618 --> 00:41:39,973 as we got closer to the exit, it was gridlocked, 564 00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:42,976 and I literally jumped out of my car, 565 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,146 ran down the, um... Down the ramp, 566 00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:50,693 and there were police and machine guns. 567 00:41:50,717 --> 00:41:53,070 I said, "I am Mrs. Johnson. I need to get to the hospital. 568 00:41:53,094 --> 00:41:55,406 That was my husband that got shot." 569 00:41:55,430 --> 00:42:01,578 570 00:42:01,602 --> 00:42:03,539 And I went upstairs. 571 00:42:03,563 --> 00:42:04,665 At the time, they kept telling us 572 00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:07,918 he was still in surgery. 573 00:42:07,942 --> 00:42:10,087 By this time, the word had traveled... 574 00:42:10,111 --> 00:42:12,089 All of my family, his family, 575 00:42:12,113 --> 00:42:15,843 close family friends, we were all in this one room. 576 00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:19,972 577 00:42:19,996 --> 00:42:22,766 The doctor came in and just told me 578 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:24,727 he did everything he could do. 579 00:42:24,751 --> 00:42:28,522 580 00:42:28,546 --> 00:42:30,107 He didn't make it. 581 00:42:30,131 --> 00:42:38,131 582 00:42:39,932 --> 00:42:47,932 {\an8} 583 00:42:52,987 --> 00:42:54,840 584 00:42:54,864 --> 00:42:56,508 -It's amazing to me 585 00:42:56,532 --> 00:42:58,343 that somebody could actually shoot 13 people 586 00:42:58,367 --> 00:43:03,140 without leaving any evidence behind, other than these notes. 587 00:43:03,164 --> 00:43:05,976 -Where are we dropping the ball here? 588 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,627 Something's gotta give. 589 00:43:29,524 --> 00:43:32,336 -We have something here. We've gotta really dig into this. 590 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,338 -A federal arrest warrant has been issued 591 00:43:34,362 --> 00:43:36,423 for John Allen Muhammad. 592 00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:39,051 He should be considered armed and dangerous, 593 00:43:39,075 --> 00:43:41,762 and he may be in the company of a juvenile. Subs extracted and de-HI'd by Peppe @ 2021 38352

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