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I was, like, seven, eight years old,

and my grandmother was visiting us from overseas.

She was, like, this little old lady--

didn't speak a word of ing English.

So anyways, my mother was telling her

what Halloween's all about,

asked her to take me trick-or-treatin'.

I'm begging her to take me to the A&P,

the biggest supermarket in our neighborhood back then.

Walking in this huge ing store,

we see this big-ass crowd of kids at the ing counter

begging for candy.

Boom, walk right past them.

I'm thinking, "What the hell's going on?"

Next thing I know, we're in the main candy aisle.

My grandmother grabs boxes of candy

and starts dumping 'em right in her ing purse.

Not one box or two boxes,

but she's cleaning the ing racks off,

just dumping 'em in her purse.

When she can't fit any more in her purse,

starts putting them in my Halloween bag.

So then she grabs my hand; we go to walk out.

Walk out the door, nothing happens.

Halfway through the parking lot, nothing happens.

I'm at home eating my candy, nothing happens.

And that is when it ing started.

I was infected with the .

Hey, just pull in next to this truck against the fence.

You guys lock your doors?

So why be a professional thief?

Who said I'm a professional?

You can't be a professional thief.

You can't go to the Yellow Pages and look up "thief"

and give them a call.

What would you do if you weren't a thief?

What are you ing talking about?

Only ask that's related to what I do.

You go too far with your questions.

You're not gonna get anywhere.

I'm not-- I'm two steps ahead of you.

We already talked about this,

and that's kind of the line that you need to stay on.

You're not gonna learn, you know,

why this man is a burglar,

why he's the of society, why we have this sickness,

why he's psychologically ed.

There's none of that going on, man.

I could have been a ing plumber.

I could have been a doctor.

I could have been an accountant.

I could have been a ing male stripper.

I'm a burglar, you know?

But that has nothing to do with what you guys are here for.

You're here so people can see the way really goes down,

the way 's really set up, the two months before,

the thinking.

Just stick to the ing profession.

You're not going to get a sob story out of me.

There's only one thing I look for in a score: cash.

I don't with nothing else.

Like, a Nordstrom's in a big ing shopping mall,

they make a ton of cash, right?

Wrong, they make a ton of ing money.

First off, you got nightclubs.

Nightclubs I love.

I could case a club for a month and no one would even notice;

all cash-- nasty, wet, liquor-soaked cash.

And clubs: easy as hell to estimate.

Then you got ethnic businesses, especially in Hispanic areas.

They're densely populated.

Most people live paycheck to paycheck,

so everything they do they're doing with cash.

You got Mexican supermarkets rocking 80 to 100 G

in a single weekend, and the list goes on.

You guys don't mind, right?

I can't ing believe you guys.

You guys are idiots, honestly.

They filming a movie. Ooh.

What the is the matter with you guys?

Bro, just turn it off already.

We're putting this on hold

until you guys work this camera out, all right?

I went through more exposure buying a shirt

than I have in the last year doing scores, bro.

You should just stay in the car

and make your film about a guy driving around in a car,

not about a guy doing ing scores.

Name's Larry Evans, from Chicago, Illinois.

I'm in here for two counts of commercial burglary.

My first job was actually payback.

Working for this restaurant hole.

My boss doesn't have money

when it comes time to ing pay me.

So I'm sitting there all ing pissed off.

My buddy's like, "Hey, just take what you need, man."

So we started taking.

Then we started casing the place, man.

The next thing I know, we got a safe on a dolly--

the kind they use to go the airport with,

the ing luggage.

We're going down the street

with this ing thing.

Got to get all these little babies.

So where we at?

What are we doing?

We're downtown just ing cruising around,

checking out.

Every day's checking out, bro.

So you ever get lonely being kind of solo all the time?

Um, no, 'cause I'm not solo, man.

I'm out there.

I'm going around.

I'm checking out.

Do you ever look for women?

Hey, what's up? Come on in.

I look atwomen; I don't look forwomen.

It's the ing biggest downfall.

Go find me some ing girl,

tell her my life story too, right?

Breaks up with me, goes to her next ing guy,

wants to show off:

"I knew this ing guy; he had a lot of money."

Sees my face one day, and then you know where I'll be.

I don't know.

It's kind of hard,

but it's part of the game, you know?

You got to choose one thing or another.

Oh, Michelle, can you get me my shirt?

Yeah.

Thanks. Here.

Do whatever the I want.

I like my life.

I like my lonely life.

About three days later, we get the ing thing open.

I give my guy half the money for being lookout,

and it's more money than I make in ing six months, man.

I spend it in a week.

I'm paying my bills.

I'm having a good time.

Do whatever the I want.

Like what you guys do, that's fresh, you know?

You guys might never make it.

You guys make it, but you're doing something you want to do.

You're doing something you love.

I think 90% of the people out there,

they do what they do to survive.

You know, you go to college to become an accountant.

You think that guy wants to become an accountant?

No.

He went to college to become an accountant

because it pays $37,000 a year,

and he can have his wife and kids and a minivan

and a ing house.

You get to ing work.

You work your eight hours.

You go home.

You get your paycheck at the end of the week.

What kind of life is that?

Then your 62 years old, and you retire for three years.

You die of ing prostate cancer

or some ing crazy .

I mean, think about it?

You guys ing hungry?

How you doing?

Hi, how're you doing?

Good, good; let me get a Polish, raw onions.

Polish?

No, no, raw onions and mustard.

Raw onion and mustard?

Carpenter goes into your house; the first thing he looks at

is your wood trim around your doors, your baseboard.

I drive around all day;

I look at the money, the cash, security, alarms.

The whole day, it's all I think about.

You got two beef, no peppers,

a side of dry, a side of sweet pepper--

Uh-uh.

A side of gravy?

No, I had three Polishes.

I think I changed my mind about this place completely, man.

Not their food.

I'm talking about hitting the ing place, man.

This is mass confusion here.

I think I could come in the daytime

and just walk out with the damn thing.

Anyways, like, that place we were just at,

they ing rock.

The drive-through's cash only.

You figure 10, 15 bucks a person average.

But do your ing homework, you're going to find out

inside, 80% of the people paying are paying with credit card.

So when you do the ing math, maybe 5, 6 G.

Is it ing worth it?

Not for me.

Hey, bro, you know what you need to do?

You need to put the camera down and eat your ing food.

Ah, , look at this.

Hey, what happened?

Nothing.

They just cut off our light right now.

You want me to turn it on for you?

See these little things?

That's the only reason you don't have electricity.

Oh, wow.

So they pop them in there, and your power's off.

So now it's back on.

Thanks.

No problem.

But don't forget that this is going to buy you

a couple of months, 'cause they'll be back.

That is good.

The rush is when you're sitting there

and you got whatever you want, man.

You got ladies all over you.

You got drinks, man.

You're flying off to Vegas one day;

you're coming back the next.

You want to go to Amsterdam, go to the ing pot parade,

you go, and you come back.

You're out of money?

You case a place.

Hey, Chuy, man.

Hey, bro, where you work?

Nah, bro, it was today, man.

Bro, we ing lost the game, man.

ing Paco brought his cousin and .

Man, that's messed up, bro.

Man, I tried calling you, like, seven, eight times, man.

Sir, can I help you with something?

How'd you get in here?

Monarch model seven. Solid.

Solid ing safe, man.

I was looking right at the ing thing.

Doable.

Definitely ing doable, man.

800-726-3183.

It's news time now.

Hi. Good evening.

This is...

This is it right here,

just sitting and watching...

learning.

What the hell they reaching up for?

I guess they're automatic doors.

Those guys look like they're Hindu or Arab or some .

That's one thing I learned,

is that these guys never leave ing money behind.

But I know I've seen the safe,

so more than likely, it's armored-car pickup.

Sometimes you got early starters that come in

three, four hours before a place opens.

They work before there's even lights on in the place,

so you got to know that type of stuff.

You know, you'll get a guy who comes

to put the rotisserie chickens on, you know?

He'll come.

He doesn't need lights on up front,

so you think the place is empty.

You think you got four or five hours.

An hour later, some guy shows up,

so it's important to know while the place is closed

from when the last person leaves to when the next person comes,

and you can't get that in one day, two days, three days,

four days, five days.

Whoa, man.

Yeah, yeah.

Cops don't bother me.

I mean, cops are just like,

you know, anybody else rolling by.

Same car we seen the other day.

That's the old man.

He's not drivin'.

All right, this guy got here.

I doubt he's leaving real soon.

I'm going to wait to see if that car parks or rolls around,

and then I got to get the out of here.

I got to go piss so bad.

How are you, buddy?

Listen, my friend told me

you guys are looking for a stock boy.

Are you the manager?

A manager, who?

I'm sorry, what's her name?

Laila, okay.

Can I talk to her, please?

Okay, buddy. No, that's all right.

I will call for her tomorrow.

Thank you very much.

Oh, thank you, cousin.

Yes, thank you.

Syukriya.

Okay, take care, buddy.

All right, the he's a she, and she's about to get off.

Name's Laila.

That's got to be her.

I guess she's the manager.

The other night, we had those two Hindu guys.

This time I just go to figure out who the 's who

and who's actually running the place.

See her up ahead?

You guys hungry?

Perfect.

Rob here.

Put it on speaker.

Go ahead.

Where you guys at?

We're right across the street from the Junior Produce.

Where you at?

Well, why are you guys right across the street from--

I'll be right there.

Why would you guys park right here?

It's not a big deal.

At one point, this was where

the entire city of Chicago got all its produce.

If you ing at a banana in 1974 at any ing store,

anywhere you bought it, it came out of the South Watermarket.

Now it looks like

because half the places are shutting down

and going to 30th and Ashland

'cause they're moving the ing place.

So--so what are we doing at the Junior Produce?

I thought we're still scoping the Food Bazaar.

We're still doing Food Bazaar.

So this place right here

I've been watching for six months on and off,

and, you know, this is a good time to do it.

And if I'm doing one score,

it doesn't mean that's the only place I ing concentrate on.

You know, I'll be watching one place

and I'll come back to another place if it comes up.

Sometimes you have to watch a place for a year

to get your ride in.

If I waited on that one place for an entire year

without doing a score, I'd be starving.

I like getting a place rock-solid ready

before I do it.

We have a female for a search at Wells and Division.

Any females out there to the search, Wells?

Points to a burglar alarm.

Oh, .

It's an abort.

Go, go!

Get the out of here.

124, 1099.

10-4.

This is Tim from Food Bazaar.

Is Laila there, please?

No, she hasn't left here actually.

Can pretend I actually have a life.

I've got to print some sales reports for my dad.

Well, what do you want to do?

I don't really care, as long as it's something, anything

so I pretend I actually have a life.

All right, I'll think of something.

I'll see you at 5:00.

I met this ing 62-year-old guy,

jogs five miles every ing day.

And he's been smoking since he was ing 12.

That's fresh, huh?

Whew.

I'll think of something.

I'll see you at 5:00.

Goal!

Goal!

Go, go, go, go, go, go.

Going to the show.

See this?

Porcelain.

Best thing to use is sparkplugs.

Crack a little piece off a spark plug,

hit a ing piece of glass with this, shatters immediately.

All right, I'll be right back.

Come on, tell 'em to keep ing rolling and .

Here we go.

It's definitely not the ing way you want to do that, man.

That was a big mistake back there.

From me leaving this car to me coming back with her bag

should have been a one-minute thing.

I can't believe this place.

It went from half empty to being a jam-packed lot

in a matter of minutes.

There's got to be 500 cars in there.

That's a lot of ing money in there, man.

Six months of sales reports.

Problem is, it doesn't say about cash or credit.

I can't believe how much stuff she has in her bag.

God it.

At least the ring is here.

I mean, they're making money.

That's for sure.

I love this .

It's fun, you know?

This is where I make my covers.

You know, like this hat, turning a van into a work truck,

ID badges, paperwork, disguises,

whatever I got to do.

And I got something that will do the trick.

Nice union sticker.

You could half-ass it, but sooner or later,

you're going to get that one person who takes a second look,

and that's when it's important

to make sure you do your right.

Any big place with 20 or more employees,

easy as hell to get into.

You just act normal.

Employees don't give a .

They think you're supposed to be there.

I put temp screws in there with some double-stick tape.

Those will hold for three, four days.

Now all I got to do is go there, kick the window in,

and I got a straight line into the room with the safe.

Check it out.

Uh, there's a little change in plans.

I'll fill you guys in when you get to the warehouse.

I need you guys there at 8:00 if you guys want to roll.

Later.

Come on, let's go.

Hurry up and park. We're late.

The Food Bazaar, at this point, is on hold.

We're not doing that tonight.

We're going to a place called Slick's downtown.

It's a small nightclub.

I got to find out what time the ing first person

gets there in the morning,

and then we're set.

So Food Bazaar, forget about it.

This place has to be done tonight.

I got no window like I do with most other places.

Well, how had you find out about it?

Um, that has nothing to do with what I'm doing.

But, I mean, you've been preaching about being cautious,

checking the place out for a long time.

We haven't even heard anything about this place.

All right, well, I've been watching this place

without you guys knowing for about three days.

Let's get there and let's just, you know, watch this thing

and hope that this ing goes down.

We'll meet back tonight.

You'll know what our in is.

I'll give you guys all the information you need,

and that's where we're at.

What's wrong?

It just--I don't know.

Everything else you've done you've just set up for so long.

I mean, how--

Yeah, but what--what does that have to do with you?

What does that have to do with him?

If you say that you're going to go into a place,

we'll be there to cover you.

That's what we're trying to get.

I'm just trying to find out why

this is the only thing that you've mentioned

that you've looked at for such a short amount of time.

'Cause I found out about the score.

I found out about the score a few days ago.

I've watched it.

I know what's happening.

You don't help me make decisions

about what I'm taking down or not.

If you guys want to ing cover me, you cover me.

If you're worried about it in any way,

if you're nervous about it in any way,

I cannot ing have you there putting that on me.

I didn't get much sleep last night.

I'm gonna eat, take a nap, and then get ready.

It's going to be a long-ass night.

This place ain't as covered as far as from my end

as Food Bazaar was.

I don't know where the money's at in this place.

I don't know if I'm going to be in there a half hour

or an hour or two hours.

Can you turn that ing thing off?

Get the out of here!

What are you ing doing?

Get out of there!

Let's go.

You know what?

This is ing over.

You're trying not to sweat.

You're trying not to your pants.

You're ing scared less.

Anyone who tells you otherwise, man, they're ing lying.

Everyone knows that feeling, man.

You know that feeling

when you got to take a ing real bad?

We had one guy in our crew, you walk into the place,

he's looking for a place to , man.

Two, three times before we get the ing safe out of there,

he's ing dropping trou, leaving turds, man.

What are we gonna do, hold each other's hand and cry?

Can you turn the camera off so we can talk-talk, man?

No, don't turn the camera off, all right?

The way you're talking,

this could be the last time we're filming you, so...

It's not going to be the last time you're filming.

You know, I just let you guys go a little bit too far.

You guys came in on the wrong ing job.

That was not the place to let you guys come in.

Well, what happened back there?

I mean, it looked like an easy score.

You didn't have to with the safe or anything.

You just walked in.

The money's sitting in a drawer.

I mean...

You're looking at it from a different point of view

than I'm looking at it.

I don't know; I just let you--

I just need to put this on hold for a couple of weeks,

you know, and see where it goes from there.

Okay, well, what about the supermarket?

Forget about the ing supermarket.

The supermarket's ed.

Those screws I pulled out

will hold three, four days,

and I'm not doing a score in three, four days.

I'm not doing it in a week, or...

You know, I just need a couple of weeks.

Okay.

Tell him to turn it off.

All right.

Turn the camera off.

So we waited to hear from Kaspar.

But when a few weeks turned into a few months,

we began to suspect we'd never hear from him again.

Hey, what's up, guys?

I know it's been a while, but I got everything in order.

I thought we could get together this weekend

and talk about getting things going again.

Give me a call.

Talk to you later.

I ain't ing out here to kill squirrels, man.

Poor little baby squirrels.

If you're going to come out here to hunt,

you're going to eat whatever you hunt.

I've eaten deer.

Deer, once in awhile, is okay,

but there's guys out here like savages.

They're just out here to kill.

They're looking for anything to kill.

"Anything that ing moves, I'm gonna kill it."

That's not why I'm out here.

You know why I'm out here?

Listen.

You hear that?

Peace.

You see that mother go?

He ran like hell.

Did you see those deer over there, by the way, before?

Yeah, I seen 'em.

But these ing guys.

I mean, I don't want to blow a camera guy's head off.

You know what I'm saying? So...

All right.

"Action" means?

"Action" means he's going to do

whatever the he wants to do.

I don't even pay attention to these ing guys.

Look at 'em.

Up my ass the whole ing day.

I'm trying to come out here to avoid all this stuff,

and he's sitting there recording and asking questions

and recording.

You just ignore him. Get him out of your mind.

I don't need blood to feel good about my hunt, you know?

Now, my partner here, Mick, that's a different story.

This guy likes to hunt.

This guy likes to kill ,

but this man will eat whatever he kills.

You'll eat a rat, right?

Oh, man.

Oh, man.

You're not cold?

You just stand there and absorb it.

No, I'm not cold.

Your ing shirt's open.

No, I'm not cold. We were running.

Did you bring one of these heat things along for yourself?

No. No?

I'm gonna warm my cheeks.

So he's not filming; he's just--he's just recording.

Huh?

Yeah, he just does whatever he wants to do.

He films when he wants to, records when he wants to.

Check that out.

What is this, a deer?

Yeah, I think so.

They put those up there for carnivorous birds.

Like what, woodpeckers? What else?

Yeah, any kind of birds that eat suet and fat.

Holy .

Can't believe I've hardly changed my next look.

I'll keep it loose...

like I've been working all day.

And...

Think we're all set.

All right.

Oh, yeah.

Last time they can was Friday,

so now I know these guys are coming weekdays.

Think about how many places they stopped today

and how much money they have in the truck when they're done.

That's how those guys in New York got $7 million.

Seems like a lot of money.

That's seven trucks full of money.

And then they gave the guy ten years,

and he wouldn't tell them where the ing money was.

No, 25 years.

So he gets out, they have 7 million bucks

in a ing hiding spot.

I don't know; that's something to think about.

Would you lose 25 years of your life for 7 million bucks?

All right.

Now, that's got to be the manager.

Yep, there he is.

Look at him.

It's 11:20.

So either this guy's early and cares

or he's late as hell and doesn't give a .

Look at the way he's galloping.

This guy's ing late, 20 minutes, guaranteed.

Man, I do all kinds of :

dig through trash, tap a ing phone.

I'll even forward people's mail to another address.

Too bad this ain't, like, a XXX-rated film, huh?

So now I take all this , lay it out,

look at the numbers, try to figure out what they're ringing,

what the best day is, figure out my day in.

Right now it looks like a Sunday night, after they close.

See, big places like that,

in the past I've learned do get armored-car pickup on Saturdays.

This place, for some odd ing reason--

maybe it's 'cause they're in the burbs

and they feel all safe and cozy--

they don't have to worry about it.

So we got the IMAX, which does .

We already know that.

Nobody's watching those ing films.

I got 18 adjoining theaters.

Each one has three good shows on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

You see?

You can't find that out from just watching a place.

Jackpot.

Saturday's ing checkout sheet.

$2,151.36 at 7:50 pm.

See that?

7:50 on a Saturday.

That means we're doing double this

by the time they ing close.

Visa sales: $185.00.

So we're talking 80%, 90% cash.

Place is charging $8.50, $9.00 a ing ticket.

Some of them are kids.

90 G just in ticket sales.

Add in popcorn and pop and gummy bears and ing peanuts,

this place is rocking $140,000, $150,000 a ing weekend.

So the way I do it: play it safe,

cut that figure in half,

and that's what we're talking, buddy: $70 ing G,

which makes this job 100% ing worth it.

You guys ready for some Black Angus?

That's one thing I could ing be, man,

a ing chef.

Think I'm gonna try it when I retire.

You guys want these rare or well-done?

You guys should sit the down and eat.

This is awesome.

Yeah, I don't got a reason to follow this guy.

I already know what time he or another manager

opens and closes, so...

And they got nothing to do with the cash

except for make sure it ends up in that safe.

Probably the cleaning crew.

I'll wait until they leave.

I need to know what time they jet.

A lot of guys, this is where they up, you know?

They get lazy, tired, whatever, get too ing anxious, man.

Not me.

Besides the actual score,

this is actually my favorite part of the job.

It's probably the biggest place I've done.

2:00, my watch.

Yeah, come down here.

Wow, it's already 3:00.

The box is going to be a ing monster.

I've done similar places before.

It's not going to be a problem, but, uh, you know,

you need certain tools.

Good ol' Sawzall.

This right here is my baby.

This'll--this is too brittle-- cracks real easy.

And these are too thick.

It'd take you about three hours

to get through a safe with this thing.

Oh, yeah, I forgot-- I need cigarettes.

I always make sure I get my tools real clean.

That way, if anything happens, like if the cops show up,

I don't have to worry about leaving my prints behind.

You know, after about a year of pulling off some gigs,

some of the guys started getting a little bit sloppy,

and on top of that, we started to add more risks,

so it starts off as, like, simply burglaries

turns into ing full-scale riots, man.

We're ing tying people up and armed robberies.

You know, you get out of bed, you take a risk.

You're in here, you take a risk.

You're doing anything, you're taking a risk,

but you don't have to take the silly risk.

You don't have to take the stupid risks.

You don't have to get yourself ing caught

and then sell someone else up the river

just to get off yourself, you know?

These ing people, man.

So I go in.

The judge looks at me, says, "You know what?

"I know you're a ing career criminal.

I'm gonna throw the ing book at you, give you maximum."

What are you gonna do, man?

They got me up for 22 cases of ing burglary, man?

No.

I take the plea.

I take the plea.

They got me for two cases commercial burglary.

Instead of 22 years, I'll be out of here in three.

I learned this from an old friend.

I wear two boxers and two T-shirts before every score.

See, in County, you got to handwash your in the sink.

Then you got to hang it to dry.

So, while your 's drying-- you only got one pair--

what are you gonna wear?

You guys learnin' something?

I always make sure.

You ever hear about those morons?

They end up getting caught

'cause they dropped their ID at the crime scene.

Not 'cause they ed up.

No, a mothering idiot drops his ID.

Run cash just in case I got to catch a bus or a cab

once I get away.

This is none of your ing business.

I got a guy.

You guys would like this guy.

So this guy was part of your crew?

No.

In fact, he was pretty much against having a crew at all,

because, as we all know,

you can't really trust everybody,

so--but, he trusted me, and we worked together,

and we were able to score some pretty big places together

that I couldn't do on my own and he couldn't do on his own,

and without the ing crew that would you over,

you know?

He's cool. He's quick.

He's collected.

And I think he knows when to stop.

I've never even come close to getting caught,

but you got to know if anything goes wrong,

there's some serious consequences.

So my advice to you two is, if anything goes wrong,

run like ing hell.

Yeah, I got this on.

It's already set.

It's like a walkie-talkie.

Hear that? And you ing answer me.

The battery dies,

you'll get a ing low battery thing on there.

Here's a ing fresh battery. Pop it in there.

Look for the ing red tape on the ing door,

get in there quick,

and make sure nobody ing sees you guys, all right?

Don't this up.

Okay, your movie is in theater four,

so hallway to your left.

Thank you. Enjoy your...

Yo, hurry up. Come in.

Here, take this.

Come on, grab it.

Hurry up.

Oh, don't go too far that way.

I didn't get all the sensors in the ing corridor.

Wait out there.

Oh...

Watch out coming in.

Check it out. Check it out.

Check it out. Check it out.

That's why we came in through the ing wall.

See that?

Get the out, you guys.

Whoo!

You guys need to step back a little.

Step back a little.

So what's going on?

Step back a little.

What happened?

What's going on is, it's ing payday.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

The is that?

Step the back.

Get back. Get back.

Get back. Get back.

Get back. Get back.

You guys ready?

Step back. Step back.

You guys ing ready?

10 G.

$14,000, $16,000, $18,000 $20,000.

$49,000.

$55,000.

$104,100.

Oh, .

What the hell is going on?

Slower.

Make sure we know what station for sure.

All right.

Chicago, 311.

Ms. Werten speaking. How can I help you?

Yes, ma'am, I'm trying to get information

on somebody who was arrested earlier today.

I--I'll connect you to central booking.

Hold on, please.

Field Services, Officer Ruiz.

Yes, ma'am, I'm trying to get information

on somebody who was arrested earlier today.

What kind of information are you looking for, sir?

I'm trying to find out where he's being held.

Hello?

Yeah, what is his last name?

Carr, K-A--

C-A-R-R?

K-A-R-R.

K-A-R-R.

Yes, ma'am.

First name?

Kaspar.

You said Jasper?

Kaspar.

Do you know his birth date?

Um, no, I don't know his exact birth date.

Okay. Let's see.

We should be able to find him.

That doesn't seem like it would be a very common last name.

Let's see.

I think he's 32.

According to my database, we don't have

anybody in custody with that name at this time.

Okay, and if I gave you where he was arrested at,

could you tell me which station he might possibly be at

if they're just holding him there?

Sure, what's-- what address was it?

It was at 4212 Pershing.

Oh, okay.

That was the ninth district.

Ninth district?

Yep.

Nine desk, Flynn.

Yes, I'm trying to get information

on somebody who was arrested earlier today.

Okay, you need to call 745-4290.

It's the first district on 17th and State.

We don't have a lockup here.

You don't have a lockup there?

Okay, and your district, does that handle

if someone was arrested at Pershing and Pulaski?

No, that'd be--I think that would be the eighth district.

8th district, Officer Grier.

Can I help you?

Yes, sir, I'm trying to get information

on somebody who was arrested earlier today.

Okay, what's the name?

Kaspar Carr.

Kaspar Carr?

Yes.

What are you going to ask him?

We just got to find out if they're holding him there.

Negative, sir. He's not here.

Neg--he's not there?

No.

Okay, how long, um...

Is there any--is--

you guys handle Pershing and Pulaski, correct?

If he was arrested there?

It depends on what side of the street.

What side of the street.

Tenth district, you might as well check them.

With what, ninth?

Tenth district.

Tenth district?

No, sorry, that's the 8th district, sir.

You got the first district.

No, I don't have anybody by that name.

We spend the rest of the day trying to find any info

on where Kaspar was being held or what he was arrested for.

After a while,

we figured he may have given the cops a different name,

so the best thing to do was to sit and wait,

sit and wait for Kaspar to contact us,

only that never happened.

On Friday, April 11th, about 5:00, we got a call.

Two beat cops on routine patrol noticed a suspicious-looking car

with its doors left open in a lot.

Upon further investigation,

the officers found what appeared to be blood

on the interior of the car,

upon which our department was notified.

Hi.

Ma'am?

Hi, can I help you?

Hi, yeah. How are you?

You know the gentleman that lives in the back?

I'm an old friend of his.

I've been back there a couple times looking for him, and...

Okay.

Yeah, I haven't seen him for about a week.

Really? Yeah.

All right, um, kind of a strange question,

but have the cops been by here or anything?

All right, no big deal.

Should--should--

No, don't be worried.

I'm just an old friend of his.

I've just been looking for him.

I haven't seen him in, like, a week.

Can I pass a message on to him for you?

Yeah, just tell him Rob was by looking for him.

I'll stop back by in a couple days or something.

Okay. All right.

I don't get it, man.

If that was Kaspar's car that the cops found at the warehouse,

then why haven't they been by here?

Later we realized the cops really didn't know anything,

not even Kaspar's real identity.

We were dying to know more, what happened,

and did the cops even know he was a burglar?

Well, our main concern is not to lose our footage,

and we don't want to lose

anything that we've already got,

but we want to try and cooperate as well.

You--you may lose custody of some of the footage,

some or all the footage and your notes.

There's a privilege in Illinois that's a source privilege,

and usually it's applied in someone

that's not wanting to divulge their information.

That--that privilege is under 735 ILCS 58901.

It says, "No court may compel any person to disclose

the source of any information obtained by a reporter."

How would you describe this case?

What's the name of the perpetrator?

Kaspar Carr.

Kaspar Carr.

Yes.

This is Moran.

Detective Moran, my name is Baron Harmon,

and I represent some documentarians

who have some information relating to some burglaries

that were committed in Chicago, and...

Okay, hold on a second, sir.

What is your name, Harmon?

Wait, I also need to tell you

that I'm tape-recording this call.

Okay, we're tape-recording this phone call because why?

Because this is part of the documentary.

That they want to come to you now with the--

with the evidence that they've accumulated.

Uh, what--what-- is this in regards

to a vehicle that was found in a lot on Pershing?

That's the one, Kaspar Carr.

Kaspar Carr is--is he-- okay.

So we'd like to just set up an appointment with you.

Who--who is Kaspar Carr?

Well, that--that's the person that we believe is--

his true name-- the individual that was--

The owner of the car?

The owner of the car, or that's what they believe.

When can these guys come in?

I'm at area three.

Do--are they familiar with that?

You're at area--

Three is on Belmont and Western.

Do you know where that is?

It's Belmont and Western, right by Lane Tech, isn't it?

Our attorney arranged for us to turn over our footage.

The sooner detectives could solve the case,

the sooner we'd find out what happened to Kaspar.

Hey, detective.

Detective.

Hey, I've been trying to get ahold of you for a week, man.

I just keep getting the runaround.

I just called the precinct; they said you weren't in.

I just want to talk about the case.

So do you mind starting from after Kaspar's car was found?

Blood was found in the driver's seat area

on the floor and on the inside driver's side door and window.

This led us to believe that the victim received injuries

to the head or upper-body area, and it was concluded

that the victim could not have lost that amount of blood

and survived.

Over the next few weeks,

investigators solved close to 100 open burglary cases,

all said to have been the sole work of Kaspar Carr.

As for what had happened to Kaspar,

it seemed that detectives had a theory,

but they certainly weren't sharing it with us.

Yeah, Robert, this is Detective Moran.

I need to speak with you.

Give me a call at 312-744...

There was one score

that completely didn't fit Kaspar's profile,

and investigators wanted to talk to us about it.

They want to know how much money we thought he took.

They want to know how he found out about it.

After reviewing the footage we'd turned in,

detectives were surprised to find

that one of the burglaries we filmed was never reported.

Which one?

Slick's.

What are you ing doing?

Why did Kaspar's plans change that night,

and why did he put everything on hold for two months

after that score?

Detectives thought they had the answer.

On May 10, 2003, police brought in Goran Uschev,

owner of Slick's Tavern, for questioning in regards

to the disappearance of Kaspar Carr.

Detectives believe that Mr. Uschev,

who has a criminal history,

had both the motive and the ability to murder Kaspar Carr.

After 36 hours of questioning,

police charged Mr. Uschev with an unrelated misdemeanor charge.

For lake of evidence,

state's attorneys refused to prosecute Uschev

for anything related to the murder of Kaspar.

Hi, how are you?

Is Goran Uschev in?

I'm sorry, he's not here tonight.

Okay, uh, well, when's he usually in?

He's usually here in the day.

You'll have to come back tomorrow.

Okay, what--what time should I come back?

Anytime.

Hi, how are you, man?

What's up, man?

Hi, Rob Rogers.

I'm a documentary filmmaker.

And can I speak with the manager?

I wanted to ask him about a, uh...

Okay, great.

Can he come out?

Yeah, come on.

Yeah, Rob Rogers.

Nice to meet you.

How are you doing?

Documentary filmmaker.

I'm here to talk to you about the break-in

that happened about six months ago?

I'm not the owner.

There's no owner here, man.

I got to ask you to leave, bro. Thank you.

I just need to talk to the owner.

There's no owner here. Get the out of here.

We already spoke to the cops about the break-in.

We're just trying to get your response

on what happened that night.

Detectives have yet to find any incriminating evidence

against Mr. Uschev, and with no new leads,

the investigation into Kaspar's disappearance

has been put on hold.

What's up, motherers?

Come on, we got to go.

I'll get in trouble.

So how you doing?

Doing all right.

How long you been here at work release?

Two weeks.

Where you working at?

Working over there at Lorraine's,

the greasy spoon over here.

I'm straight and narrow.

So what do you think happened to Kaspar?

Who?

Kaspar Carr, the guy you led us to.

I don't know what you're talking about, man.

All right.

Well, did you hear the story about the burglar

who's car was found full of blood?

You know that guy?

Yeah, I knew Kaspar.

Why don't you want to talk about him?

'Cause there's nothing to talk about.

The Illinois State Police Crime Lab would not comment directly

on Kaspar's case;

however, we did manage to obtain an interview

with retired forensic pathologist Jim Sherlock,

who has investigated Chicago crime scenes for over 25 years.

Could it be determined by the amount of blood

left at a crime scene if the victim did not survive?

I don't believe so.

I don't--I don't believe that

you could make that determination

just based on the volume of blood left at the crime scene.

I've been at crime scenes where there's been a teaspoon of blood

and the person did not survive.

I've been at other crime scenes where there's a large--

large pools of blood, and just by looking at it,

you'd say there's no way this individual could survive,

and you find out later that they're alive and well.

So I don't believe it's possible to tell if a person's dead

just by the amount of blood loss at a crime scene.

I'd have to see the body.

Did investigators have it right?

I mean, these are the same guys that for two weeks

couldn't figure out Kaspar's identity or his home address.

And that night after Slick's,

what was really going through Kaspar's mind?

He says one thing...

You guys are just getting too close.

And then comes back two months later

and does the exact opposite...

Letting us come in and film him taking down his biggest score.

$104,100.

It just doesn't add up.

We have so many questions we'd like to ask,

only Kaspar's not here to answer him.

What would you do if you weren't a thief?

What are you ing talking about?

You go too far with your questions.

You're not gonna get anywhere.

I'm not-- I'm two steps ahead of you.

I could have been a ing plumber.

I could have been a doctor.

I could have been an accountant.

I could have been a ing male stripper.

I'm a burglar, you know?

If I had to tomorrow change my, uh, you know, outlook on life

and do something else, I'm ing ready.

Just stick to the ing profession.

You're not going to get a sob story out of me.