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J soldier boy j
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j oh, my little soldier boy j
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j I'll be true j
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j to you j
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you must understand that
I liked being a green beret.
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I thought it was good.
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When I did go in the
military, I went in there gung ho.
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In basic training, you have
this 500 points that you score.
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I scored like 501 or something.
I mean...
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You know, I was really,
you know, ready.
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I was certain that
every male member of my family...
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Had their war, and there would be a war for
me, and I would go off and be a hero...
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And fight the good fight
for this country.
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I've tried to spend my whole
life having people live a better life...
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And basically feel better.
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That's what nurses do, right?
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You know, it took us almost
three weeks to cross the pacific.
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And there wasn't too much
to do on a troopship.
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So we'd sit up on the deck
at night and have raps.
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And a lot of the times, it would get to what we
were going to... whether it was right or wrong.
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And we'd go back and forth,
back and forth.
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And, uh, we'd always
end up concluding,
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"well, let's hope we're doing the right
thing because that's where we're going."
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[ Man narrating I
in the early 1960s,
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the United States government began
sending combat troops to south Vietnam.
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I was really proud of
what I thought I was doing.
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The problem I had
was realizing...
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That what I was doing
was not good.
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I was doing it right,
but I wasn't doing right.
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I was asked to train green beret
people, special forces men.
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Why were they training
these guys in dermatology?
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Well, they were training them
to do dermatology in Vietnam...
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Because they knew that if they were
able to offer a few simple remedies...
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And help cure a few children of
some simple bacterial infections,
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that that would ingratiate themselves
to the vietnamese community.
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And you remembered the phrase "winning
the hearts and minds of the people.โ
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So this was how you were going to win
the hearts and minds of the people.
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And while they were offering the band-aids
of helping to cure a few cases of impetigo,
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uh, they were bombing
the hell out of the villages.
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[ Airplane passing overhead I
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I was out on a patrol,
uh, near hip hoa,
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and, uh, um,
we took a couple of prisoners.
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Whether they were combatants
or not, who knows.
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The patrol was led by Americans,
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but there were
vietnamese arvn there.
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And they were turned over
to arvn,
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and arvn used the old-fashioned
methods of interrogation.
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Force, torture. And that was
pretty common practice.
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I tell you, as bad the...
As bad as that treatment was,
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the cynicism that attached to it was the
part that was really sickening, I thought.
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Anathema to everything I was taught, everything
I'd learned, everything I grew up with...
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This is just not the way
you treat human beings.
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And it was all done for
the good of the cause, I guess.
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I got out of the military
in 1966.
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I got out because of the things
I saw, the things I was doing,
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and the reasons that
we were given for doing them.
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It was a personal protest. It was
just me getting out of the service.
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There was no movement to join.
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I found the war in Vietnam
more and more repulsive.
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And I felt that I just
couldn't be a part of it.
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Eventually, I said, "look, I'm
not training you guys anymore.
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"I don't agree with what you're doing.
I think it's immoral.
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I think it's
medically unethical.โ
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And I just stopped...
Threw 'em out of the clinic.
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Uh, uh... it took a few weeks for
the army to catch up with that.
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And when they did, they invited me into
the commanding officer's office and said,
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"look. What are you doing here?"
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I told them exactly what I was doing.
I'm not training 'em.
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And they said, "well, you know, you
should know the consequences of that."
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And I said, "I'm perfectly aware of the
consequences of it. I'm not training them."
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At that point, it was obvious that
I was going to be court-martialed.
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And a few days later,
I got the court-martial notice.
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[ Narrator I Howard Levy
spent three years in prison.
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Along with him, three g.L.S at fort
hood who refused orders to Vietnam...
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And received five years hard labor
and a dishonorable discharge.
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Army lieutenant Henry howe, who carried
a sign at a demonstration reading,
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"end Johnson's fascist
aggression in Vietnam,โ
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was sentenced to two years.
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And two marines, William Harvey
and George Daniels,
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received six-to-10 year sentences
for organizing a meeting...
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About whether black people
should fight in Vietnam.
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And on march 3, 1966,
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former green beret Donald Duncan
was the featured speaker...
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At an antiwar meeting
at the town hall in Manhattan.
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I just wanted to do
what I knew about it,
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and let-let people
then judge for themselves.
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I think the most startling
thing to me occurred, however,
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as the court-martial began.
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What would happen was we would
walk from the parking lot...
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To the building where the
court-martial was being held.
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And it was the most remarkable
thing when hundreds...
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Hundreds of g.L.S would hang out
of windows, out of the barracks,
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and give me the "v" sign
or give me the clenched fist.
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This was mind-boggling to me.
This was a revelation.
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And at that point it really became crystal-clear
to me that something had changed here,
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and that something very,
very important was happening.
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How many people in the army...
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Do you think feel the same way, perhaps,
as you do, are against the war?
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I wouldn't vent...
I really don't know how many,
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but I know how many I met.
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And that was a majority of the men that
I met in the service were opposed,
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but really didn't know
how to voice their opinion.
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[ Narrator I
1968 was the turning point.
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By then America had over a half
million troops in south Vietnam.
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But during the lunar
new year holiday called "tet,"
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the enemy... the north vietnamese and
national liberation front armies...
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Launched an offensive that overran the
entire country before being pushed back.
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The tet offensive revealed that the enemy had
widespread support from the vietnamese people,
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and America was mired in a war
it couldn't win.
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And with soldiers beginning to question
the war in the wake of the tet offensive,
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thousands began going awol,
or absent without leave.
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Many found their way to San Francisco
where a series of events...
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Brought the emerging g.I. Antiwar
movement onto the national stage.
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Have you given much thought
to the penalty of being awol?
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Yes.
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Can we see your chains, please?
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We joined together in July 1968.
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We took sanctuary in a church
and chained ourselves to ministers.
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we essentially called the press
and said to them,
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"we're not going to Vietnam.
We're refusing our orders,
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"and in fact, we're resigning
from the military.
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the fact that it took 'em three days to
decide how to deal with this tactically,
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that was great.
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I had nothing to lose. And I had
no idea what was gonna come.
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And that's a free place. It's a
really free place, you know.
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Y-you... you don't
know what's gonna happen,
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where you're going,
but you know what you're doing.
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And that was my introduction to the
San Francisco presidio stockade.
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The population fluctuated,
usually upwards.
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It was built, I think,
and could hold, like, maybe 60,
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and there were some... sometimes
double that in there.
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Uh, overcrowded,
toilets backed up,
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uh, food was short,
guards were mean.
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It wasn't... wasn't any fun.
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[ Narrator I with the nine for
peace held in military prisons,
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soldiers throughout
the bay area began planning...
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For the first antiwar demonstration in the
country organized by g.L.S and veterans.
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I was a member of the
medical committee for human rights.
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We got together
a number of times...
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And talked about how
we were going to organize...
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Active-duty g.L.S to go
to the peace demonstration.
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And then I remember also hearing
about the b-52 bombers...
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That were dropping leaflets on Vietnam,
urging the vietnamese to defect.
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And I thought, well,
if they can do it overseas,
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then we can hire
a small private plane,
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load it up with leaflets,
and drop the leaflets...
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On military bases in
the San Francisco bay area.
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Thousands and thousands
of leaflets.
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At one point I know we were a little
concerned about getting shot down,
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but nothing happened.
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Evidently, they landed
pretty accurately.
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That's what they testified
at the court-martial.
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And on my way driving in
to the demonstration,
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I decided I was going to wear
my naval uniform.
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My opinion was fairly
straightforward.
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It was if westmoreland
could wear his uniform...
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Being for the war and talking
in front of congress,
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then as an active-duty person, I certainly
had the same rights that he did,
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and I could wear my uniform protesting the
United States's involvement in Vietnam.
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Susan schnall
was court-martialed...
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For making a political
statement while in uniform.
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And following the g.I.
And veterans march for peace,
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four awol g.I.S turned themselves
in to the presidio army stockade,
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which was about to reach
a breaking point.
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The moment... my epiphany...
Or the thing that came to me...
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Was working in a hospital...
In the military hospital...
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Up at fort Lewis
in a neurology floor.
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And, um, it was all
head and neck injuries.
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Guys so paralyzed that they
couldn't turn the page of a book,
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and they couldn't even
take a poop by themselves,
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and they couldn't
kill themselves.
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Every day, we would come in as
medics to take care of them,
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and they would beg us
every day to kill them,
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because they couldn't
kill themselves.
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And it was such a horror.
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It caused me
to think to myself...
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'Cause I grew up
in a military family.
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My grandfather was a career officer,
and my father was a career officer.
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And I had no reason at all going
into the military to think...
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There was anything wrong
with the Vietnam war,
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or anything wrong with
America the beautiful.
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And then there I was faced with a situation where
guys every day were asking me to kill them.
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And it was so horrible,
I had to...
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At a certain point, I just made a
vow to myself that-that-that...
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I wouldn't ever put somebody else into
the hospital in those circumstances...
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That I wouldn't be the guy
that squeezed the trigger...
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That caused some human being to
be in that dreadful situation.
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The other thing that bothered me
was those guys that could talk...
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The ones that would beg you to kill
them, that couldn't turn the page,
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that couldn't wiggle anything
from their chin down.
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And none of 'em felt like they had made
their sacrifice for a good reason.
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They all told stories of, you know...
Of brutalizing the vietnamese people,
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of being the thugs.
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And not a single one of 'em felt like
his sacrifice was for a good cause.
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For 19-year-old
private Michael bunch,
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life in the army had been little more
than a series of awol violations.
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His last stop was here,
the presidio stockade,
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where he was fatally shot last Friday while
trying to escape from a work detail.
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So, um, I'd been assigned
kind of by the movement people...
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To go into the stockade and
find out what was going on...
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'Cause they had shot
this prisoner and killed him.
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The guard shot him and
killed him, you know, point-blank.
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And his only crime was
not wanting to be there...
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And, um, going awol.
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And he was cut down at a real young
age and, uh, for no good reason.
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Not unlike a lot of
his brothers in Vietnam.
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You know? Uh, so, um...
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So we reacted, uh, viscerally...
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And, uh, with anger
and disgust and outrage.
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We tore that jail apart.
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Uh, we ripped the wires
out of the walls,
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ripped the squawk box
off the wall.
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Then things started to calm down,
'cause we started to plan.
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We came to a decision the best thing we could
do was to have some kind of a demonstration.
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And it was at
the roll-call formation.
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We had a signal when we were
supposed to break ranks. We did.
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And then we walked over here and sat down.
At a certain point,
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commandant came out
and read us the mutiny act.
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And we just kept singing louder and
kind of linked arms and sing and sing.
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[ Mather I we were scared, man. I'll
tell you. We were really scared.
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We had 'em right where we want them.
They were finally listening to us, man.
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That's the first time
I can ever remember...
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Anybody listening to us
while I was in the military.
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The commanding general of the
sixth army, which was the jurisdiction...
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And he said that they thought that
the revolution was about to start,
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and that they really had
to set an example, you know.
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Come down hard. And we were the guys
that they decided to do that with.
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And they did. I mean, you know,
we were on trial for our life.
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You know, I came in as an awol, and
within two days of hitting the stockade,
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I was... I was facing
the death sentence...
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For singing "we shall overcome."
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[ Narrator I initially sentenced
to 16 years for mutiny,
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the presidio 27 spent up to
two years in federal prison.
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And facing decades in jail for both the
nine for peace and presidio sit-down,
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Keith mather escaped from the presidio
stockade and made his way to Canada,
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where he spent the next
18 years living in exile.
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[ Shouting I
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[ narrator I but in the summer of
'68, as thousands of supporters...
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Protested the jailing of the presidio
27, the g.I. Movement had arrived.
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My background is puerto rican.
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I was born in New York City.
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When I was 17 years old, I entered the united
states military academy at west point.
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I graduated with honors,
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and the army sent me to graduate
school at Harvard university...
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To the Kennedy
school of government.
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I was there for
a year and a half,
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at which point
I wrote to the army...
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And said that I would refuse
to serve in the Vietnam war.
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I came to believe it was a war of aggression
by the United States against the vietnamese.
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It was really
a troubling decision.
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Because I knew that, um,
my career would be over,
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and I didn't know what
the future would bring.
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At the time, the press said that I
was the first west point graduate...
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To refuse to serve in a war
in the history of west point.
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I remember calling my parents,
and they were in tears.
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I mean, just totally in tears, uh,
thinking that I would end up in prison...
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Instead of getting
a master's degree from Harvard.
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But I told them... 1 remember
in that conversation...
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I said you always taught me
to do what's just,
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to do, uh, what is right.
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And, uh, I really felt that
I was doing the right thing.
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And I believe that to this day.
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Thirty-four years later,
I know I did the right thing.
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I was wounded three times
while I was out in the bush.
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The third time I was wounded
was on December 20, '67.
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We got overrun by
north viethamese regulars.
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They started like
a human-wave attack.
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And a guy came up behind our hole
and stuck his rifle in the hole.
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And I saw the front side of
an ak-47 and a muzzle flash.
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And I had my m16 pointed up,
and I started pull...
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Pulled my trigger
when I saw the ak sight.
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And a bullet hit me
in the knee and I blacked out.
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I came to a few minutes later, and my gun
was jammed and my knee was shattered.
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After the fighting ended,
and the sun came up,
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and they carried me over
to this guy who had shot me.
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And he was sitting up
against a tree stump, and he was dead.
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He had three bullet holes up his chest,
and he had his ak laying across his lap.
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And the sergeant said, "here's this
gook you killed. You did a good job."
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And I seen this guy,
and he was about my age.
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And... and I started thinking, you
know, why is he dead and I'm alive?
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It was just a matter
of pure luck.
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Then I started thinking, I
wonder if he had a girlfriend...
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And if his... how his mother's gonna
find out and things like that.
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When you just went through
an experience of that nature,
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and you find out that it's all lies, and that
they're just lying to the American people,
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and your silence means that you're part of
keeping that lie going, I couldn't stop.
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I mean, I couldn't be silent, you know. I
felt I had a responsibility to my friends,
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and to the country in general
and to the vietnamese.
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The last guy who I shot... I don't
consider him as the first guy I shot,
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but it was the first guy I shot where I was
shooting it out barrel-to-barrel with him...
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And looked him in the face
afterwards.
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And I felt a certain amount of responsibility
to him, to make that if his life...
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If his death not be in vain meant that I
had to try and advocate for the justice...
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That he was fighting for, because I
believed he was fighting for his country.
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So I became involved in the movement.
That's what happened with me.
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J [ Rock and roll I
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[ narrator I with more and more
soldiers turning against the war,
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a handful of peace activists opened the
first of what would become a network...
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Of dozens of antiwar
g.L. Coffeehouses...
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Located in the towns that
hover near military bases.
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The dusty Texas town of killeen,
just outside fort hood,
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which housed over 30,000 troops,
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became the home of the g.I.
Coffeehouse known as the oleo strut.
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Being in the army,
I can get over here,
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and I can sit down
and write poetry.
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I can sit here and listen, and I
can forget I'm in the army...
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For about 15 minutes to an hour
or something like this.
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We have three
very simple rules here.
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Three very simple rules,
and that's all.
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One: We got no holding
in the place.
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If you're holding,
it's a bad place to be.
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The sign over there says,
"the man is welcome."
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But always remember,
the man is welcome here.
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It's not so much that he's welcome.
It's that he's just here.
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You guys know
what I'm talking about.
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The name "oleo strutโ came
from a shock absorber on a helicopter.
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So that's what
the oleo strut was.
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It was a place where you go
there and they sold sodas,
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and they had a record player and
all the latest rock records...
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And underground papers, and
you just hang out and rap.
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Fort hood was both a combination
of guys going to Vietnam...
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And guys who'd been to Vietnam
and came back.
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And as time went on, the guys who
had been to Vietnam played...
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A subversive role
to the guys who were going.
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And they go out on ambushes.
Like for a one-month period,
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we go out on ambushes and we kill over 50
people in the early hours of the morning.
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And you start looking at bodies, because
they've got to get their body count.
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And who's there? A majority
were women and children.
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And what were they doing?
What was their crime?
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They were carrying food. They were carrying
food to their friends up in the hills.
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For anyone who thinks
that they can duck out of it...
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And hopefully, be a clerk typist
and not have to see any of that,
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he's making a mistake because
he's supporting the war.
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I remember one of our campaigns
that was probably a pretty good effort...
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Was the tyrrell's boycott.
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Tyrrell's was a jewelry store at a
number of bases throughout the country.
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And they used to have these guys standing
out on the sidewalks soliciting you.
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G.l.s would come into town,
and they'd say,
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"hey, why don't you buy your mother a ring?
Why don't you buy your girlfriend a ring?"
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Particularly, they were trying to get
the guys who were gonna go to Vietnam.
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"Better buy something for your mother.
You might not get to see her again.
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Something to remember you." They'd...
They'd be out there hustling.
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And they knew all the different raps to
pull on a lonely g.L."'S heartstrings.
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And then they used to have this
deal where if you bought the ring,
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and you were killed in Vietnam,
any payments were suspended.
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The ring was paid off
at that point.
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And they put your name in the window
on the tyrrell's roll call of honor.
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Which was outrageous, because it was like,
"oh, you owed us money and got killed,
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so we're gonna put your name in the
window to get some other guy to do it."
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So we decided to start a boycott
at the store in killeen.
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And we began picket lines
in front of the tyrrell's place.
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They arrested picketers
at several times.
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We'd try and maintain
the picket lines.
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But what happened was
the tyrrell's boycott...
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Started spreading to other
places around the country,
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'cause word of our protest
started spreading.
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There was g.I. Activist groups all
over the country by this point.
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But along with the growth
of the movement came the attacks.
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The shelter half coffeehouse
near fort Lewis in Washington...
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Was declared off-limits
by the military.
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And in Columbia, south Carolina, the
staff of the u.F.O. Coffeehouse...
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Was arrested and charged with
maintaining a public nuisance.
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Night riders shot into
a movement center...
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Near camp Pendleton marine base in
California, seriously wounding one marine.
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And in mountain home, Idaho,
the covered wagon coffeehouse...
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Was firebombed
and burned to the ground.
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In the little town of muldraugh,
Kentucky, home of fort Knox,
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a scene worthy of
Franz kafka emerged.
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Soldiers were mostly the driving
force, and we were the supporters.
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And they did things like put up
pictures of Che Guevara.
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They put up a... one whole wall was an
American flag painted upside down.
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The stars part of it
was a toilet seat.
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And if you lifted the toilet seat up,
there was lyndon Johnson's picture.
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And when the police officer who came
in to examine the place saw that,
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he just hit the roof.
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I got sent to fort Knox, Kentucky,
to protect the nation's gold supply.
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I got to Knox at a time when...
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Their coffeehouse was
experiencing a lot of repression.
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I spent 13
days in this little jail...
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That still had a trapdoor from when they
did lynchings from before the civil war.
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There was a hook up on the wall.
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What they were trying to do
was drive us out of town.
400
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But we weren't going away. They
indicted six people for two offenses.
401
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One was "maintaining a place...
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Visited by idle and evil
disposed people.โ
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We always thought, "'ildle and evil
disposed people'? You mean, like soldiers?"
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[ Muskat I the whole emphasis of
the coffeehouse in giving us...
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An off-base center to congregate
and meet was a good thing.
406
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But in defending those centers to
exist, it pulled us off the base,
407
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which is where we were
effective and, um, powerful.
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Put us in a coffeehouse, we were just like a
bunch of other young people in a coffeehouse.
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Put us in a barracks with a stack of
papers and half a dozen guys around us,
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and we were fucking atlas.
411
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A new phenomenon has cropped up at
several army bases these days...
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A so-called underground g.I. Press, which
consists largely of antiwar newspapers.
413
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Military authorities are clamping
down hard on the papers.
414
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There was an underground
newspaper laying on the bed,
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and it was called
the last harass.
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They freaked out, man.
They were freaking out.
417
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"This is unauthorized material.
And this is subversive material.
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You're not allowed to have any copies of this
inside barracks. Turn this in immediately."
419
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That night then, the paper then
went around in the barracks.
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Everybody's reading it...
Two or three guys at a time,
421
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sitting around on a bed... around guys'
beds and stuff... checking out this paper.
422
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What I liked about it
was the officers hated it.
423
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- To me...
- It had to be good.
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It had to be good. There had to be
something about this that was good.
425
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Typed, mimeographed, printed,
the g.I. Underground press exploded.
426
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Fun, travel and
adventure, the last harass.
427
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Fed up!, fort benning, Georgia,
428
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chanute air force base, a four-year
bummer, fort dix, New Jersey, shakedown.
429
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Fort hood, Texas, fatigue press is published
by a group of radical soldiers...
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Stationed at this army base.
431
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And we used to distribute it
clandestinely on base.
432
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We'd go around and leave
bunches of 'em in barracks.
433
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We'd go through barracks at night
and leave 'em on footlockers.
434
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If you were caught distributing literature
on base, that was a court-martial offense.
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[ Narrator I shortly after the
first issue was published,
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the g.I. Who founded the
fatigue press, gypsy Peterson,
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was pulled over
by fort hood police.
438
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And they vacuumed out his car and claimed
to have found remnants of marijuana...
439
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And arrested him for possession of marijuana,
in an attempt to suppress his movement.
440
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[ Narrator I following a two-day
trial in a Texas court,
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gypsy Peterson was sentenced
to eight years in prison.
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Despite the military's
best efforts,
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the underground press became the
lifeblood of the g.I. Movement,
444
00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:21,838
as the army's own recruiting slogan,
"fun, travel and adventure,โ
445
00:27:21,932 --> 00:27:25,174
turned into the popular g.L.
Expression,
446
00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:26,933
"fuck the army."
447
00:27:27,146 --> 00:27:30,388
[ Muskat I there must have been
close to 300 antiwar newspapers...
448
00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:33,440
Written, produced and published on
bases all throughout the world.
449
00:27:33,527 --> 00:27:36,394
It was wherever
there were g.L.S...
450
00:27:36,530 --> 00:27:39,021
American g.L.S in the world.
451
00:27:39,283 --> 00:27:41,069
Linking soldiers
around the world,
452
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:44,451
the g.I. Press also inspired
many outside the military.
453
00:27:44,538 --> 00:27:48,531
I grew up believing that if
our flag was flying over a battlefield,
454
00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:50,495
that we were on the side
of the angels.
455
00:27:50,627 --> 00:27:54,996
My father fought in the second world war.
He won awards and medals and...
456
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,877
You know, I grew up
during the "good wars."
457
00:27:58,385 --> 00:27:59,841
Here's this woman...
458
00:28:00,053 --> 00:28:03,216
Who steps out onto the world
stage as a famous actress,
459
00:28:03,473 --> 00:28:06,590
comes from one of the ruling
class families in Hollywood,
460
00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:10,644
and makes a political decision
to change sides.
461
00:28:10,898 --> 00:28:14,561
She steps onto the side of the people,
and particularly the vietnamese people.
462
00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:17,859
She stands with the g.L.S, and she
stands with the g.I. Movement.
463
00:28:18,363 --> 00:28:20,884
And she says, "I'm going to stand
with this. I'm going to give vent.
464
00:28:20,908 --> 00:28:23,069
I'm going to help support it
and build it, et cetera.โ
465
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,071
And the f.T.A. Show...
466
00:28:25,287 --> 00:28:28,495
Mr. president, there's a terrible
demonstration going on outside.
467
00:28:28,624 --> 00:28:30,810
Oh, there's always a demonstration
going on outside, pat.
468
00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:33,115
Yeah, but, Richard, this one
is completely out of control.
469
00:28:33,587 --> 00:28:35,187
Well, what are they
asking for this time?
470
00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:37,496
Free Angela Davis
and all political prisoners,
471
00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:40,090
out of Vietnam now, and draft
all government officials.
472
00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:42,150
Well, we have people
to take care of that.
473
00:28:42,179 --> 00:28:44,966
They'll do their job, you do
your job, and I'll do my job.
474
00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:47,410
But, Richard, you don't understand.
They're storming the white house.
475
00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:49,078
In that case, I better
call the third marines.
476
00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:50,933
You can't. Why not?
477
00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:53,478
It is the third marines. Oh.
478
00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:56,398
[ Narrator I for years,
pro-war comedian, Bob hope,
479
00:28:56,526 --> 00:29:00,314
had toured Vietnam
entertaining American troops.
480
00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,396
But soon, the cheers
turned to jeers,
481
00:29:02,491 --> 00:29:05,198
and a new kind
of entertainment emerged.
482
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:11,364
Howard Levy, himself a
celebrity within the g.I. Movement,
483
00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:14,575
he met with Donald sutherland
and me, and he said,
484
00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:20,165
"what if we put together
an antiwar show...
485
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:24,919
That's, you know, the opposite side of the
coin from the... from the Bob hope show?"
486
00:29:25,138 --> 00:29:27,925
Went down to that base j
487
00:29:28,183 --> 00:29:30,048
j they took one look
at my face j
488
00:29:30,394 --> 00:29:33,056
j and read out an order
to bar me j
489
00:29:33,397 --> 00:29:36,434
j I said foxtrot tango, Alpha j
490
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:40,567
j free the army j
491
00:29:40,654 --> 00:29:44,317
"f" the army.
We always said "free the army,"
492
00:29:44,491 --> 00:29:46,402
or "fun, travel and adventure,โ
493
00:29:46,493 --> 00:29:48,700
but it really meant... the army.
494
00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:50,743
- So we said...
- J foxtrot, tango, Alpha j
495
00:29:51,123 --> 00:29:53,330
say it.
496
00:29:53,417 --> 00:29:58,377
Fuck the army!
And the Navy and the marines!
497
00:29:58,588 --> 00:30:02,126
Here was a way that I could
combine my profession, my acting,
498
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:04,753
with my desire to end the war.
499
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:07,962
It just seemed like
a perfect fit.
500
00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:10,638
The show... the show that
we bring to these bases...
501
00:30:11,059 --> 00:30:14,176
Is not trying to tell the people on the
bases anything that they don't know.
502
00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:16,845
We are coming in response
to what is...
503
00:30:17,107 --> 00:30:19,294
Probably the most powerful
movement going on in this country.
504
00:30:19,318 --> 00:30:22,276
The movement of the men inside
the military... and women...
505
00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:24,522
Who are beginning to understand
how they're being used,
506
00:30:24,573 --> 00:30:27,531
and what the nature
of American foreign policy is.
507
00:30:27,617 --> 00:30:29,573
And we come there
because they have asked us to.
508
00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:34,030
We come there because for the last year we
have read in the newspapers from Vietnam,
509
00:30:34,541 --> 00:30:37,829
from west Germany, from okinawa,
from the Philippines, from Japan...
510
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:41,707
What we want is entertainment. We
want people who speak to how we feel.
511
00:30:41,798 --> 00:30:43,985
The majority of us don't know
why we're going over there.
512
00:30:44,009 --> 00:30:47,718
We don't know why we're being shot up, we
don't know why our buddies are being killed,
513
00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:50,838
we don't know why
we're killing those people.
514
00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:54,390
If it'd been another
time and place and another war,
515
00:30:54,478 --> 00:30:56,810
I might have actually been
a very good soldier,
516
00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:00,768
because there's part of the
military life that I really liked.
517
00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:02,565
This replaced my dog tags.
518
00:31:05,614 --> 00:31:09,778
This little teardrop peace sign became
my official dog tag for myself.
519
00:31:10,035 --> 00:31:14,028
I went through my whole tour in
vietham without a set of dog tags.
520
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,164
Anything but thinking
about where you were.
521
00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:24,400
You started thinking about where you were,
that's when you started getting in trouble.
522
00:31:24,424 --> 00:31:26,460
That's when I started
getting in trouble.
523
00:31:26,635 --> 00:31:30,753
'Cause then I started,
you know...
524
00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:34,385
I started really seeing...
525
00:31:43,485 --> 00:31:45,405
I started seeing stuff
like I'm seeing right now.
526
00:31:45,487 --> 00:31:47,352
Um...
527
00:31:49,866 --> 00:31:52,903
You know, it's-it's, um...
528
00:31:55,956 --> 00:32:01,542
The way we judged our success...
529
00:32:01,628 --> 00:32:04,791
Was through body count.
530
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,789
And most of the time,
531
00:32:08,218 --> 00:32:12,962
even though I was part of
the, um, command structure...
532
00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:17,716
Being first a squad leader
and then a platoon sergeant...
533
00:32:18,186 --> 00:32:20,347
Um, most of the time,
534
00:32:20,397 --> 00:32:25,562
it's supposed to be
my responsibility to, um,
535
00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:30,362
you know, do things like
check the bodies and...
536
00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:34,358
But, um,
I never wanted to do that.
537
00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:37,986
That's== I==
538
00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:42,666
that's not what I wanted
to understand that I was doing.
539
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:46,628
I was brought into
the, um, company office.
540
00:32:46,715 --> 00:32:50,583
And I was told by a major...
541
00:32:51,094 --> 00:32:54,177
That I would be
brought up on charges...
542
00:32:54,681 --> 00:32:58,390
Of leading and conspiring to mutiny
against the United States government,
543
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,224
because there were three of us who were
refusing to go on combat operations,
544
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:06,682
and that I would be facing
a 20-to-life sentence.
545
00:33:07,194 --> 00:33:09,731
And so I just...
I walked out of there in shock,
546
00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:14,106
thinking, "well, I'm going
to jail for a long time."
547
00:33:15,785 --> 00:33:17,400
I didn't know
there was a g.L. Movement.
548
00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:23,617
I just had this strong moral sense
of-of something not being right.
549
00:33:24,085 --> 00:33:27,919
And then they sent me to see
the, quote, "company shrink."
550
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:30,086
He said, "well, what are you
really concerned about?"
551
00:33:30,175 --> 00:33:35,636
I said, "ll don't care about prison time.
I just want to have...
552
00:33:35,722 --> 00:33:40,011
Some connection with my home."
553
00:33:40,143 --> 00:33:44,261
I didn't want to be ostracized
from American culture and society.
554
00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:47,356
And he said, "well,
let me show you something."
555
00:33:47,567 --> 00:33:50,980
And he reached into the...
Into some drawer that he had,
556
00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:53,903
and he pulled out this
New York times newspaper.
557
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:57,778
And there's a full-page ad
that had all these signatures...
558
00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:01,737
Of all these people
who were opposed to the war.
559
00:34:01,831 --> 00:34:04,789
It was a
full-page advertisement...
560
00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:08,664
Signed by
1,400 active-duty soldiers,
561
00:34:08,755 --> 00:34:12,623
denouncing the war and supporting
the November 15 demonstration...
562
00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:15,546
The November 15
moratorium demonstration.
563
00:34:15,637 --> 00:34:20,051
The discussion started going to say,
"well, man, why don't we do something?โ
564
00:34:20,141 --> 00:34:23,474
On this day, November 15, we're all
gonna wear these black armbands.
565
00:34:23,645 --> 00:34:26,682
- Mm-hmm.
- As a form of symbolic solidarity...
566
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:28,555
With the protest
in the United States.
567
00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:31,858
We were up all night long just
talking about this. And I was so...
568
00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:36,404
I couldn't sleep. There was no way. I
was so... so excited by this point.
569
00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:40,325
So we go out in the morning formation.
All our guys had black shoestrings on.
570
00:34:40,495 --> 00:34:44,079
We'd get over to the combat engineers
now, though, it was a different story.
571
00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:48,492
The company commander had grabbed...
Had some guy by the... by the collar...
572
00:34:48,587 --> 00:34:50,703
And had his .45 pistol
up to his head.
573
00:34:50,797 --> 00:34:53,755
Damn. - You could vaguely hear
him threatening this guy...
574
00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:59,053
To summarily execute him on the spot,
because he's inciting a mutiny.
575
00:35:00,724 --> 00:35:02,965
I've seen
Charlie, Luke the gook,
576
00:35:03,059 --> 00:35:06,222
whatever you want to call him, n.V.A.,
right there laying down as I walked by.
577
00:35:06,563 --> 00:35:08,178
I looked at him. He looks at me.
578
00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:10,633
Keep going about my business.
This man didn't do me nothing.
579
00:35:10,734 --> 00:35:13,796
He didn't hurt me in no way. He didn't
hurt none of my black people, my families.
580
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:15,856
So why should I shoot him?
581
00:35:15,989 --> 00:35:20,904
I feel all black men should be exempt
from, uh, military duty anyway.
582
00:35:21,244 --> 00:35:22,905
Because, uh, right on.
583
00:35:22,996 --> 00:35:27,490
The only place a black man should
fight is where he's being oppressed.
584
00:35:27,626 --> 00:35:30,413
I'm not being oppressed in Japan,
I'm not being oppressed in Vietnam,
585
00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:32,501
and I'm not being oppressed
in Pakistan.
586
00:35:32,589 --> 00:35:35,080
Guys were coming
from all over the country.
587
00:35:35,175 --> 00:35:38,212
So you're getting people coming
in with different information...
588
00:35:38,678 --> 00:35:40,919
About black power struggle
at that time, and, you know,
589
00:35:41,181 --> 00:35:43,888
black unity, and, you know,
feeling real good about yourself.
590
00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:47,558
And you had to really question
what you were doing in Vietnam.
591
00:35:49,439 --> 00:35:54,399
[ Airplane passing overhead I
592
00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:57,853
I remember one day this first
sergeant was talking about gooks.
593
00:35:58,031 --> 00:36:01,774
Show you how naive I was, I didn't
know that gook was a racial slur.
594
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,633
I didn't really understand that,
you know.
595
00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:07,946
One day he was talking about gooks,
and a light went off in my head.
596
00:36:08,083 --> 00:36:11,120
And I said, "wow. A gook
is the same thing as a nigger.โ
597
00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:17,964
My whole tour in Vietnam,
when you met a black soldier,
598
00:36:18,051 --> 00:36:20,508
you know, he had a dap,
you had a special handshake.
599
00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:25,760
You got to the point where you could even
tell what part of the country he was from,
600
00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:28,808
because everybody had their
distinctive... the dap or handshake.
601
00:36:28,895 --> 00:36:31,432
And you definitely could tell
if he wasn't in your company,
602
00:36:31,564 --> 00:36:33,930
because everybody had
their little nuance.
603
00:36:34,067 --> 00:36:37,059
This is the greeting. This is the
greeting of a brother... of my brother.
604
00:36:37,153 --> 00:36:39,690
I'm glad to see him. I don't
have to know his name. Yeah.
605
00:36:40,156 --> 00:36:42,613
Just the fact that he's black
is good enough for me. You dig?
606
00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:48,071
Then we... we know we got a common ground.
We got a cause to fight.
607
00:36:48,456 --> 00:36:51,744
Far out. Oh. Oh.
608
00:36:51,835 --> 00:36:53,755
- You slap this way. This way.
- Okay. Other way.
609
00:36:54,003 --> 00:36:56,460
Then fist, fist, then high.
610
00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:58,504
And then the down this way like this.
Oh, yeah.
611
00:36:58,717 --> 00:37:01,459
Oh, let's do this one again. I like that.
You come down, you grab.
612
00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:07,346
There you go. That's it!
613
00:37:07,642 --> 00:37:10,634
Like in the marine corps, the
bloods... especially on the bases...
614
00:37:10,729 --> 00:37:14,688
They-they-they been going to jail for
giving dap, the power, the handshake.
615
00:37:14,816 --> 00:37:17,398
But this is the way we greet each other.
This is the way.
616
00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:19,850
They been going to jail for
doing it... just for doing it.
617
00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:27,693
Long binh jail was the
stockade in long binh, Vietnam.
618
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:31,447
It was pretty much just like
jails in America... 99.9% black.
619
00:37:31,708 --> 00:37:35,417
There was a lot of violence in this
prison, a lot of stuff going on.
620
00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:39,330
People were angry.
It was a pretty dire situation.
621
00:37:39,466 --> 00:37:42,879
A group of inmates got together,
622
00:37:43,052 --> 00:37:46,886
and we decided that, uh, we were
going to escape from this place.
623
00:37:46,973 --> 00:37:49,635
And, um, what happened was
is that...
624
00:37:49,726 --> 00:37:52,433
The result of was
a long binh rebellion...
625
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,513
Where a lot of g.I.S,
um, accosted guards,
626
00:37:56,608 --> 00:37:59,224
and, uh,
they burnt down the jail,
627
00:37:59,611 --> 00:38:01,272
and it was just mayhem.
628
00:38:03,573 --> 00:38:07,441
I'm a survivor, so I was going
to survive no matter what.
629
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:24,086
The president,
uh, shaked my hand...
630
00:38:24,344 --> 00:38:27,632
And pinned a medal on, uh, me.
631
00:38:27,722 --> 00:38:32,341
You can say that that was one of the
most proudest moments of my life.
632
00:38:32,644 --> 00:38:36,728
How did you come
to the decision to desert?
633
00:38:36,815 --> 00:38:41,309
You know, when you're laying on your back,
and you can't move for day in and day out,
634
00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:43,977
you have a lot of time to think.
635
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,355
So, um,
636
00:38:46,449 --> 00:38:49,407
you think about what you did,
you know, what you've done,
637
00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:53,828
things that you've gone through,
the people that you've killed,
638
00:38:54,207 --> 00:38:56,664
the people that have died.
639
00:38:56,751 --> 00:39:00,335
I mean, there's always
something that reminds you...
640
00:39:00,588 --> 00:39:04,080
Of, uh, things that
you've done in Vietnam.
641
00:39:04,259 --> 00:39:06,716
The things that you've seen.
642
00:39:06,803 --> 00:39:10,967
Then you actually see
what I saw,
643
00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:14,299
what was going on in the states.
644
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,430
Dudes are running down
the streets...
645
00:39:16,688 --> 00:39:20,931
And wearing the same kind
of uniform that I got.
646
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:22,940
They're in Memphis.
647
00:39:23,319 --> 00:39:27,437
They're-they're-they're... they're
beating up on people.
648
00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:38,331
And you're beating up
on... black people.
649
00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:42,832
Uh, dogs are running everywhere.
Tanks are on the streets.
650
00:39:43,256 --> 00:39:46,544
[ Narrator I in the summer of 1968,
army and national guard troops...
651
00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:49,967
Were sent in to American cities as
thousands of black people rioted...
652
00:39:50,179 --> 00:39:54,092
Following the assassination of
Martin Luther King. -
653
00:39:54,601 --> 00:39:56,182
that spring, troops were used...
654
00:39:56,269 --> 00:40:00,228
Against antiwar demonstrators
at the Pentagon.
655
00:40:00,648 --> 00:40:04,766
Then in August, soldiers at fort hood were
told they would be sent to Chicago...
656
00:40:04,861 --> 00:40:10,276
Where antiwar demonstrations were planned for
the Democratic party's national convention.
657
00:40:10,617 --> 00:40:13,057
Hey, we just come back
from fighting the vietnamese,
658
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:16,361
and now they want us to fight
the Americans.
659
00:40:16,456 --> 00:40:18,913
The night before the troops
were supposed to leave,
660
00:40:19,208 --> 00:40:23,326
there was a meeting of black g.L.S
that gathered up in a parking lot...
661
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:25,666
In the first
armored division section.
662
00:40:26,132 --> 00:40:28,532
And they were out there all night
in the parking lot talking.
663
00:40:28,635 --> 00:40:30,796
And they were having, like,
a rap session or rally...
664
00:40:30,887 --> 00:40:34,505
Why they were opposed
to going to Chicago.
665
00:40:34,724 --> 00:40:38,308
We were making it clear that it was a
genocidal thing that was going to go on,
666
00:40:38,394 --> 00:40:41,261
and how can I go and commit
genocide on my people?
667
00:40:41,356 --> 00:40:46,191
Shoot my people? There were hundreds of
black g.L.S out in this parade field.
668
00:40:46,569 --> 00:40:49,185
Brothers came up and really
started pouring it on then...
669
00:40:49,614 --> 00:40:53,027
About, you know, discrimination
and unfair treatment,
670
00:40:53,493 --> 00:40:55,404
not getting the rank
that they needed...
671
00:40:55,495 --> 00:40:58,703
And about what was
happening with the war.
672
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,120
[ Narrator I as the meeting
stretched into the night,
673
00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:04,959
fort hood's commanding general
showed up to talk to the g.L.S.
674
00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:08,501
He said, "I'm just a two-star general.
Let me go and talk to my boss,
675
00:41:08,591 --> 00:41:10,707
and I'll have an answer
for you I the morning."
676
00:41:10,802 --> 00:41:14,386
So, you know, we just relaxed,
you know, went to sleep.
677
00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:18,131
All of a sudden, crack upside the head.
They cracked me upside the head.
678
00:41:18,226 --> 00:41:23,516
What the hell? You know, uh, what the
hell's going on? M.P.S all around us, man.
679
00:41:23,731 --> 00:41:25,847
They came at us with bayonets.
680
00:41:25,942 --> 00:41:29,776
I got cut. You know, I got hit
right here with a bayonet.
681
00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:33,946
And then, every now and then,
they opened this formation up.
682
00:41:34,242 --> 00:41:38,201
And a group of m.P.S come in
and grab a brother...
683
00:41:38,663 --> 00:41:41,700
And take him back in the back
and beat the shit out of him.
684
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,163
You hear him screaming in the back.
You know, shit like that.
685
00:41:45,586 --> 00:41:47,167
I said, "damn."
686
00:41:47,255 --> 00:41:49,667
[ Cline I and they
were court-martialed...
687
00:41:49,757 --> 00:41:52,339
Brought up on various
court-martial charges,
688
00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:56,298
but it scared the hell
out of the military.
689
00:41:56,389 --> 00:42:00,507
Then they went around and went through
the roster of all the units...
690
00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:06,016
Who were supposed to go, and took off who
they considered to be, quote, "subversives."
691
00:42:06,399 --> 00:42:09,732
So a number of people, myself
included, were not sent to Chicago.
692
00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:14,270
[ Narrator I in one of the most
infamous events of the 1960s,
693
00:42:14,449 --> 00:42:17,236
Chicago police brutally
attacked the demonstrators...
694
00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:19,449
In front of
the Democratic convention.
695
00:42:19,704 --> 00:42:23,538
J
696
00:42:23,624 --> 00:42:26,286
Although the army had sent a
contingent of riot-control troops...
697
00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:30,461
To Chicago from fort hood,
they kept them off the streets.
698
00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:34,132
It was no longer certain
which side the g.L.S were on.
699
00:42:34,635 --> 00:42:36,546
The military had
a problem on its hands,
700
00:42:36,637 --> 00:42:38,798
and it was about to go
from bad to worse.
701
00:42:40,475 --> 00:42:43,512
We were in, uh,
the breakfast line, I believe.
702
00:42:43,603 --> 00:42:47,187
It was a long line, and all of
a sudden we see this commotion,
703
00:42:47,607 --> 00:42:49,472
kinda start at
the beginning of the line,
704
00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:51,523
and then start
to come up towards us.
705
00:42:51,778 --> 00:42:55,362
And we could see people... like, one guy would
turn to the guy behind them, and they 'd...
706
00:42:55,448 --> 00:42:59,566
There'd be this excited conversation, and
that guy would turn to the guy behind him,
707
00:43:00,078 --> 00:43:03,286
and finally, the guy
in front of me got the news,
708
00:43:03,498 --> 00:43:06,035
and he turns around
and he says to me,
709
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:08,787
"they're killing women
and children in Vietnam."
710
00:43:09,295 --> 00:43:11,752
I said, "who's killing women and children?
The Vietcong?"
711
00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:13,454
And he said, "no. We are."
712
00:43:16,219 --> 00:43:19,507
[ Narrator I march 16, 1968. The
soldiers of Charlie company,
713
00:43:19,597 --> 00:43:21,929
11th brigade,
americal division...
714
00:43:22,308 --> 00:43:24,720
Entered the village of my lai.
715
00:43:24,811 --> 00:43:27,393
24 hours later,
over 500 villagers...
716
00:43:27,522 --> 00:43:31,561
Men, women, children... lay dead,
717
00:43:31,692 --> 00:43:34,104
brutally and wantonly
murdered in cold blood.
718
00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:37,528
Around the world, the my lai massacre
would become the touchstone event...
719
00:43:37,782 --> 00:43:40,023
Of the Vietnam war.
720
00:43:40,535 --> 00:43:44,119
For over a year, the American military
covered up the my lai massacre,
721
00:43:44,413 --> 00:43:47,530
claiming only enemy soldiers
were killed.
722
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:50,742
And when the truth was finally
brought to light by journalists,
723
00:43:50,837 --> 00:43:54,625
the highest-ranking officer tried
and convicted was William calley,
724
00:43:54,715 --> 00:43:56,876
a lieutenant.
725
00:43:59,971 --> 00:44:03,429
In a cramped Detroit hotel,
a new organization,
726
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,510
Vietnam veterans
against the war,
727
00:44:05,601 --> 00:44:10,641
held an unprecedented investigation
that exposed a much deeper truth.
728
00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:13,765
I think the winter soldier investigation
was to try to point out...
729
00:44:13,860 --> 00:44:15,725
It wasn't really in defense
of calley,
730
00:44:16,028 --> 00:44:18,485
but it was, uh, going after...
731
00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:21,531
The notion that the policies
of the U.S. military...
732
00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:23,983
Created things
like my lai, okay?
733
00:44:24,328 --> 00:44:27,616
That it was a policy... it was both
a written and an unwritten policy.
734
00:44:27,707 --> 00:44:30,665
And the truth has to be told. You
can't duck away from the truth.
735
00:44:30,751 --> 00:44:32,912
You can't lie and put up
the smoke screen and say,
736
00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:35,416
"oh, this is a"... the words
they used back then...
737
00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:38,665
"An isolated instance
of aberrant behavior.โ
738
00:44:39,010 --> 00:44:41,196
You weren't just coming home
sayin' I'm against the war.
739
00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:44,508
You're saying, "this is what
we did. This is how we did it.
740
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:46,715
This was a crime.
This was wrong."
741
00:44:46,809 --> 00:44:50,017
Helped people to really cross
the bridge and to see us...
742
00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:54,097
In a way that I think the antiwar
movement had not seen g.L.S before.
743
00:44:54,192 --> 00:44:58,811
America went through...
Went through a choke, okay?
744
00:44:58,905 --> 00:45:03,365
Because they didn't want to believe
that these things occurred...
745
00:45:03,451 --> 00:45:05,442
In the name of
the American people,
746
00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:08,987
supposedly supporting
freedom and liberation...
747
00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:10,491
And democracy
throughout the world.
748
00:45:10,625 --> 00:45:14,368
And there was this terrible slaughter.
This terrible, inane slaughter.
749
00:45:14,503 --> 00:45:17,495
So I think the question was,
750
00:45:17,590 --> 00:45:19,776
why are they going after calley,
where calley was doing...
751
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,008
Precisely what we were all told to do
when we were in vietham... essentially.
752
00:45:23,346 --> 00:45:26,634
Okay? Which is, kill them all,
and sort it out later.
753
00:45:26,724 --> 00:45:30,512
In quang tri
city, I had a friend who was, uh,
754
00:45:30,603 --> 00:45:33,515
he was an adviser with an arvn
group, and one time he asked me,
755
00:45:33,606 --> 00:45:37,224
would I like to accompany him into a
village that I was familiar with...
756
00:45:37,443 --> 00:45:40,150
And see how they act...
So I went with them, and, uh...
757
00:45:40,238 --> 00:45:43,526
They didn't find any enemy, but
they found a woman with bandages.
758
00:45:43,616 --> 00:45:46,449
So she was questioned
with about...
759
00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:49,417
She was questioned by six arvns, and
the way that they questioned her...
760
00:45:49,622 --> 00:45:52,329
Was, since she had bandages,
uh, they shot her.
761
00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:55,579
She was hit about 20 times.
So after she was questioned,
762
00:45:55,711 --> 00:45:58,168
uh, of course, dead, uh...
763
00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:02,878
This guy come over, who was... knowing
him, he was a former major...
764
00:46:03,261 --> 00:46:06,469
Who was in the service for 20 years,
and he got hungry again and came back,
765
00:46:06,597 --> 00:46:08,758
workin' with u.S.A.I.D.
766
00:46:08,849 --> 00:46:10,714
Aid international development.
767
00:46:11,018 --> 00:46:13,430
And, uh... he, uh,
768
00:46:13,521 --> 00:46:17,560
went over there and ripped her
clothes off, and took a knife and...
769
00:46:17,650 --> 00:46:20,813
Cut from her vagina, all the way up...
Well, just about up to her breasts.
770
00:46:20,945 --> 00:46:25,029
And pulled her organs out.
Completely out of her cavity.
771
00:46:25,366 --> 00:46:27,526
And threw 'em out. And then
he stopped, and knelt over,
772
00:46:27,576 --> 00:46:30,818
and, uh, commenced to peel every
bit of skin off her body.
773
00:46:30,913 --> 00:46:33,575
And left her there, as a... as a
sign for something or other.
774
00:46:33,666 --> 00:46:37,625
And so I gave other testimony...
One about the rabbit lesson,
775
00:46:37,837 --> 00:46:40,065
which I thought was very important,
and I still think it is.
776
00:46:40,089 --> 00:46:44,298
And that was, at the end of staging
battalion, at the camp Pendleton base,
777
00:46:44,468 --> 00:46:47,301
uh, in California, for marines,
before you went to Vietnam.
778
00:46:47,513 --> 00:46:49,593
Where the staff n.C.O.
Comes out and he has a rabbit,
779
00:46:50,016 --> 00:46:53,179
and he's talking to you about escape and
evasion, and survival in the jungle,
780
00:46:53,602 --> 00:46:56,014
and he has this rabbit, and
then, in a couple of seconds,
781
00:46:56,105 --> 00:46:58,517
well, everyone just about
falls in love with it...
782
00:46:58,607 --> 00:47:02,020
Not falls in love with it, but,
you know, they're humane there...
783
00:47:02,236 --> 00:47:06,900
He cracks the neck, skins it,
disembowels it just like I said...
784
00:47:06,991 --> 00:47:08,982
Testified that this
happened to a woman...
785
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,243
He does this to a rabbit, and then they
throw the guts out in the audience.
786
00:47:12,496 --> 00:47:15,988
And takes the skin of the rabbit and
turns it inside out and makes...
787
00:47:16,083 --> 00:47:18,540
Makes a little bootee
for his foot,
788
00:47:18,627 --> 00:47:21,744
and says you might have to do this in
case your helicopter crashes in Vietnam.
789
00:47:22,173 --> 00:47:23,913
Or you're separated
from your unit.
790
00:47:24,383 --> 00:47:27,170
And I thought the subtext of
that little lesson was to-to...
791
00:47:27,428 --> 00:47:29,714
To completely brutalize people.
792
00:47:29,930 --> 00:47:32,810
You can get anything out of that you
want, but that's your last lesson...
793
00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:34,661
In the United States
before you leave for Vietnam.
794
00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:37,176
And I went and listened
to the three days of testimony,
795
00:47:37,396 --> 00:47:41,890
and absolutely came away from it
emotionally drained and floored by it.
796
00:47:42,068 --> 00:47:46,311
I never grasped,
even up to that point,
797
00:47:46,489 --> 00:47:52,075
how powerful was the genocidal
plans and strategy...
798
00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:54,218
Of the U.S. towards
the vietnamese people.
799
00:47:54,288 --> 00:47:58,907
On every level, you know,
whether it was agent orange,
800
00:47:59,001 --> 00:48:02,869
and dow chemical reconfiguring
the napalm,
801
00:48:02,963 --> 00:48:07,457
because the napalm wasn't sticking
to the vietnamese skin enough.
802
00:48:07,635 --> 00:48:11,469
I mean, that was, you know... all of this
just added to the overwhelming sense...
803
00:48:11,555 --> 00:48:14,547
Of the criminality
of the United States.
804
00:48:17,311 --> 00:48:19,498
[ Narrator I claiming to have
"a secret plan to end the war,"
805
00:48:19,522 --> 00:48:23,390
Richard Nixon had been
elected president in 1968.
806
00:48:23,651 --> 00:48:26,313
But in 1970,
he expanded the war,
807
00:48:26,404 --> 00:48:32,149
ordering an invasion of
Cambodia, Vietnam's neighbor.
808
00:48:32,493 --> 00:48:36,611
That spring, I drove
across country for two months,
809
00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:40,664
and during that time,
Nixon invaded Cambodia,
810
00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:43,201
four students were
killed at Kent state,
811
00:48:43,295 --> 00:48:45,581
two were killed
at Jackson state...
812
00:48:45,798 --> 00:48:47,413
I mean, it was somethin'.
813
00:48:47,508 --> 00:48:50,841
[ Narrator I as anger over the
invasion and killings exploded,
814
00:48:51,053 --> 00:48:53,419
the g.I. Movement
entered a new era.
815
00:48:53,556 --> 00:48:56,423
This was armed forces day, and in
many cities across the country,
816
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,433
there were the usual
parades, displays and bands.
817
00:48:59,645 --> 00:49:02,637
But the recent surge of protest
over the war in indochina...
818
00:49:02,731 --> 00:49:04,972
Cast a shadow over
today's activities.
819
00:49:05,484 --> 00:49:07,124
This was even true
at some military bases,
820
00:49:07,153 --> 00:49:09,235
where the presence
of antiwar demonstrators...
821
00:49:09,363 --> 00:49:11,228
Led to the cancellation
of planned observances.
822
00:49:11,574 --> 00:49:14,657
[ Cline I a thousand g.L.S
marched the first year,
823
00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:17,902
right outside the base... and they
told people it was off limits,
824
00:49:17,997 --> 00:49:22,036
and they told people that if you went
there, you were gonna get arrested.
825
00:49:22,376 --> 00:49:26,369
The store owners downtown were putting
up plywood coverings on their windows,
826
00:49:26,547 --> 00:49:29,835
'cause the cops told them
it was gonna turn into a riot.
827
00:49:30,134 --> 00:49:33,752
But then people decided to change it to
"armed farces day," because you know,
828
00:49:34,013 --> 00:49:38,973
we thought makin' fun of your enemy
was as valuable as yellin' at him.
829
00:49:39,268 --> 00:49:41,600
And in killeen,
we had three demands.
830
00:49:41,729 --> 00:49:43,890
We had a pretty
extremist slogan:
831
00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:47,849
"Avenge the Kent state
and Jackson state killings."
832
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,021
So we had "end the war."
833
00:49:50,112 --> 00:49:53,855
The third slogan, I think, had to do
with the political prisoners goin'.
834
00:49:53,949 --> 00:49:57,237
Because, at that time,
the black panther party was...
835
00:49:57,495 --> 00:50:01,363
Starting to gain some strength, and
there was repression against them.
836
00:50:03,042 --> 00:50:08,002
The second year, 1971, there had
to be 3,000-4,000 on the street.
837
00:50:08,297 --> 00:50:09,958
J
838
00:50:31,612 --> 00:50:34,524
I've had quite a
few letters recently,
839
00:50:34,615 --> 00:50:37,982
uh, concerning some of
the different items...
840
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,824
That radio first termer
has to offer its followers.
841
00:50:42,915 --> 00:50:44,871
And one of the biggest things...
842
00:50:45,084 --> 00:50:49,168
Is the official Dave rabbit
sweatshirt.
843
00:50:49,505 --> 00:50:53,373
For those of you who are unaware of
what a Dave rabbit sweatshirt is,
844
00:50:53,467 --> 00:50:55,628
I'll tell you.
845
00:50:55,886 --> 00:50:59,845
It's a white sweatshirt.
846
00:51:00,307 --> 00:51:04,641
On the front of it, it has
a large white rabbit.
847
00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:09,522
And the rabbit's dick
is completely hard.
848
00:51:09,775 --> 00:51:12,107
The rabbit is carrying a sign.
849
00:51:12,528 --> 00:51:15,110
On the sign, it reads,
850
00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:18,064
"fuck it, before it fucks you."
851
00:51:20,286 --> 00:51:22,572
"By every conceivable
indicator, our army,
852
00:51:22,788 --> 00:51:25,074
"that now remains in Vietnam,
853
00:51:25,541 --> 00:51:27,452
"is in a state
approaching collapse,
854
00:51:27,543 --> 00:51:32,287
"with individual units avoiding,
or having refused, combat,
855
00:51:32,464 --> 00:51:35,752
"murdering their officers,
and non-commissioned officers...
856
00:51:35,843 --> 00:51:40,928
Drug-ridden and dispirited
where not near-mutinous.โ
857
00:51:41,056 --> 00:51:42,921
[ Narrator I in the face
of a determined enemy,
858
00:51:43,267 --> 00:51:47,886
an unprecedented antiwar movement,
and a military near collapse,
859
00:51:47,980 --> 00:51:53,020
the Nixon administration announced
the policy of "vietnamizationโ...
860
00:51:53,193 --> 00:51:57,857
An effort to shift the burden of
combat to the south vietnamese army,
861
00:51:57,948 --> 00:52:01,406
while American jets bombarded
north Vietnam from the skies.
862
00:52:01,493 --> 00:52:04,735
Nixon promised
that American ground troops...
863
00:52:04,913 --> 00:52:07,655
Would no longer be involved
in offensive combat.
864
00:52:10,169 --> 00:52:12,626
This is Richard boyle,
firebase pace...
865
00:52:12,713 --> 00:52:15,500
About two kilometers from
the Cambodian border.
866
00:52:15,716 --> 00:52:19,504
I'm sitting in a bunker, with about a
dozen grunts of the first cav division.
867
00:52:19,595 --> 00:52:23,429
A lot of the people are kind of
wonderin' if anybody back in the world...
868
00:52:23,515 --> 00:52:25,702
- Knows that we're out here, you know?
- They don't.
869
00:52:25,726 --> 00:52:29,969
Like, uh, they say that only two batteries
of artillery are supposed to be here,
870
00:52:30,064 --> 00:52:33,477
and no grunts are here... you know,
like, nobody... we don't even exist.
871
00:52:33,651 --> 00:52:35,437
We're just meat.
872
00:52:35,611 --> 00:52:37,647
American troops were not
supposed to be in combat.
873
00:52:37,821 --> 00:52:40,187
That's why the American army
denied...
874
00:52:40,574 --> 00:52:42,280
That they were there... you know,
875
00:52:42,534 --> 00:52:45,854
as far as... the briefers in Saigon, there
were no American troops along the border.
876
00:52:46,121 --> 00:52:48,533
[ Soldier I does anybody know
what we're fighting for?
877
00:52:48,624 --> 00:52:50,560
Do you believe you're
fighting for democracy here?
878
00:52:50,584 --> 00:52:52,984
I tell you. The
only thing you fightin' for...
879
00:52:53,045 --> 00:52:55,502
Is your own life...
You fightin' to go back home.
880
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:59,582
The north vietnamese
had two crack regiments...
881
00:52:59,677 --> 00:53:01,633
Totally surrounding
the firebase.
882
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:04,440
It's suicide, going out
there in the middle of the night.
883
00:53:04,473 --> 00:53:06,555
There's a
thing about givin' an order,
884
00:53:06,684 --> 00:53:08,595
and there's a thing about
usin' your head too.
885
00:53:08,686 --> 00:53:10,802
It's always
the higher-highers, man.
886
00:53:10,896 --> 00:53:13,387
They don't have to go out there,
they just send us.
887
00:53:13,565 --> 00:53:17,183
As soon as we start goin' out
there, we'll be sittin' ducks.
888
00:53:17,444 --> 00:53:19,901
The captain, cronin,
ordered six men...
889
00:53:19,988 --> 00:53:22,195
To go out on a night ambush.
890
00:53:22,449 --> 00:53:24,189
Which was basically
a suicide mission.
891
00:53:24,368 --> 00:53:27,110
I mean, send six
guys out against two regiments.
892
00:53:27,413 --> 00:53:30,371
And-and they said, we ain't gonna do it.
We ain't gonna go.
893
00:53:30,457 --> 00:53:33,915
And the only option there was, was to
get word out to the outside world.
894
00:53:34,336 --> 00:53:35,980
- And they wrote a petition.
- [ Recorder clicks I
895
00:53:36,004 --> 00:53:40,498
"at the writing,
we are under siege in firebase pace.
896
00:53:40,718 --> 00:53:44,006
"We are faced daily with
the decision of whether...
897
00:53:44,304 --> 00:53:47,592
"To take a court-martial, or
participate in offensive drill.
898
00:53:47,683 --> 00:53:50,800
"In the event of mass
prosecution of our unit,
899
00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:54,561
our only hope would be
public opinion, and your voice.โ
900
00:53:55,065 --> 00:53:57,602
[ Soldier I incoming.
Got a rocket.
901
00:53:58,110 --> 00:53:59,796
Nixon was so afraid...
902
00:53:59,820 --> 00:54:02,857
He ordered that company
pulled out.
903
00:54:02,948 --> 00:54:05,564
They sent in another company.
They had heard...
904
00:54:05,659 --> 00:54:08,116
About the refusal
of Alpha company...
905
00:54:08,203 --> 00:54:10,740
The other company
also refused to fight.
906
00:54:11,206 --> 00:54:14,494
And after that, no company... no troops
in vietham were willing to fight.
907
00:54:14,585 --> 00:54:16,450
They said, look, we're
not gonna fight anymore.
908
00:54:17,588 --> 00:54:19,749
There are more problems
to winding down...
909
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,297
The Vietnam war than just
holding the enemy at bay,
910
00:54:22,551 --> 00:54:25,088
and moving south vietnamese
troops into the line.
911
00:54:25,596 --> 00:54:28,884
One unforeseen problem is trying
to keep up the morale of g.L.S...
912
00:54:28,974 --> 00:54:31,556
Who know they're going home,
but not soon enough.
913
00:54:31,685 --> 00:54:33,892
It has produced
flagrant insubordination,
914
00:54:34,188 --> 00:54:36,144
shooting of officers
by their own men,
915
00:54:36,356 --> 00:54:38,267
and a deadly practice
called "fragging."
916
00:54:38,567 --> 00:54:41,855
Their purpose, in my mind,
was either to get me...
917
00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:45,733
Or, uh, intimidate myself and...
918
00:54:45,824 --> 00:54:49,316
And all others in authority in
the company and the battalion.
919
00:54:49,411 --> 00:54:52,073
Sergeant gene tingeley is saying
that some of his own men...
920
00:54:52,414 --> 00:54:55,656
Tried to maim or kill him... but
it's not an isolated incident.
921
00:54:55,751 --> 00:54:59,494
Since then, one officer has been
killed, another wounded at this base,
922
00:54:59,630 --> 00:55:02,713
and there have been dozens of similar
incidents all across south Vietnam.
923
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,758
I've, uh, seen more than one
big group meeting...
924
00:55:05,844 --> 00:55:07,709
Where...
925
00:55:08,013 --> 00:55:11,847
Actually, all they talk about is
fraggin', as we call 'em, pigs.
926
00:55:11,934 --> 00:55:16,018
By "pigs," you're talking about your
senior enlisted men and your officers?
927
00:55:16,271 --> 00:55:18,933
Uh, that's correct. That's uh,
one of our most common terms.
928
00:55:19,316 --> 00:55:22,558
Because the fragmentation grenade
is often the weapon used,
929
00:55:22,653 --> 00:55:25,861
the violent attacks on authority
have come to be known as "fragging."
930
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,356
And many g.L.S talk
openly about fragging,
931
00:55:28,450 --> 00:55:30,907
and the military
countermeasures.
932
00:55:30,994 --> 00:55:34,828
J [ Electric guitar: Soul I
933
00:55:39,253 --> 00:55:44,748
a fragmentation grenade was
thrown io the quarters of some officers...
934
00:55:44,842 --> 00:55:47,003
Two killed. Two killed?
Was that it? Okay.
935
00:55:47,094 --> 00:55:51,633
Billy, I think, was almost
immediately placed under arrest.
936
00:55:54,768 --> 00:55:59,387
I was chosen for the trial because I
was an outspoken critic of the war.
937
00:55:59,481 --> 00:56:03,895
He would speak his piece. If I don't like
somethin', I'm gonna tell ya about it.
938
00:56:03,986 --> 00:56:06,523
This war wasn't meant for me.
It wasn't meant for us.
939
00:56:06,989 --> 00:56:09,696
I mean, uh, black mens,
'cause we're not your slave.
940
00:56:10,033 --> 00:56:13,867
And he would let 'em know. You know, I
don't care to do everything you say.
941
00:56:13,954 --> 00:56:16,912
And they had some vendetta against
him for speakin' his mind.
942
00:56:16,999 --> 00:56:20,241
The irony of why he
got selected for prosecution...
943
00:56:20,544 --> 00:56:22,284
Could almost be
a comedy of errors.
944
00:56:22,504 --> 00:56:26,918
His commanding officer decided
that he must have been the target,
945
00:56:27,009 --> 00:56:30,922
because he was planning
to send Billy home.
946
00:56:31,346 --> 00:56:34,338
Now, to us, I mean,
that was absolutely absurd.
947
00:56:34,433 --> 00:56:36,389
If Billy thought
he was being sent home,
948
00:56:36,602 --> 00:56:38,433
he would have swam home!
949
00:56:38,562 --> 00:56:42,054
None of the original evidence
pointed to Billy at all.
950
00:56:42,149 --> 00:56:44,731
Eyewitness descriptions
did not match Billy,
951
00:56:45,152 --> 00:56:49,145
and as it turned out later, he
was off someplace gettin' high.
952
00:56:49,573 --> 00:56:52,815
The case was really
a milestone in many ways,
953
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:58,450
because it's the case that
surfaced the issue of fragging.
954
00:57:01,585 --> 00:57:04,577
The message did get out,
you know, among the soldiers.
955
00:57:04,671 --> 00:57:08,004
What was going on, and how
we needed their support.
956
00:57:08,216 --> 00:57:10,673
In our wildest dreams,
we never would have realized...
957
00:57:10,761 --> 00:57:14,219
People cared that much about the
movement, and what was going on.
958
00:57:14,306 --> 00:57:17,548
A lot of Vietnam
veterans came to the trial,
959
00:57:17,643 --> 00:57:19,804
and were there to show support.
960
00:57:19,895 --> 00:57:25,310
It crystallized a lot of issues,
and you know, racism not least.
961
00:57:25,609 --> 00:57:28,100
May I say that the system
of military justice...
962
00:57:28,195 --> 00:57:30,982
Is still riddled with injustice.
963
00:57:31,156 --> 00:57:34,114
"Prosecution witness confesses
army made him lie."
964
00:57:34,201 --> 00:57:37,364
I mean, that would happen
all through the trial.
965
00:57:37,537 --> 00:57:40,244
The whole thing was just
bizarre from start to finish,
966
00:57:40,332 --> 00:57:44,371
and of course, before it was over, the
army would try to manufacture evidence...
967
00:57:44,461 --> 00:57:47,749
With these grenade pins that
they said that they could match,
968
00:57:48,048 --> 00:57:50,088
and it turned out that...
Which they didn't.
969
00:57:50,258 --> 00:57:53,170
It was impossible. There
was no such science at all.
970
00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:56,591
No matter how hard they tried, the
case just wouldn't hold together.
971
00:57:56,682 --> 00:58:01,767
It is clear that the army
had no evidence of my guilt.
972
00:58:01,979 --> 00:58:05,437
[ Monaco I front page! "Private Smith
acquitted of fragging charges.โ
973
00:58:05,524 --> 00:58:07,765
"Smiling Billy Dean Smith
was acquitted today.โ
974
00:58:08,026 --> 00:58:12,360
When the verdict was read, I
mean, it was like pandemonium.
975
00:58:12,447 --> 00:58:16,235
Everybody just... the cameras and
everything... we piled out the door.
976
00:58:16,326 --> 00:58:19,238
Uh, it was one of
the best days of my life.
977
00:58:19,371 --> 00:58:24,866
I was simply singled out as a scapegoat for
incidents of fragging which had occurred...
978
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,623
In the last four years in
Vietnam, and which reflects...
979
00:58:28,797 --> 00:58:31,539
A low state of morale
among enlisted men.
980
00:58:34,886 --> 00:58:37,046
Billy was...
My impression of him, anyway...
981
00:58:37,097 --> 00:58:39,179
Was he was a gentle person.
982
00:58:39,307 --> 00:58:42,140
He was drafted, and
in a matter of months,
983
00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:44,764
- was in the killing fields.
- Mm-hmm.
984
00:58:44,855 --> 00:58:47,221
That in itself was a trauma.
985
00:58:47,566 --> 00:58:50,808
Then once he was arrested for
this crime that he didn't commit,
986
00:58:50,902 --> 00:58:54,986
they put him in isolation... - Twenty-two
months, and he was only out one hour a day...
987
00:58:55,323 --> 00:58:57,359
Out of 24. Solitary confinement.
988
00:58:57,534 --> 00:59:00,321
You sittin' up there that long, you
gonna automatically go crazy...
989
00:59:00,579 --> 00:59:04,322
Lookin' at yourself, and your hands and
your fingers and toes, and that's it.
990
00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:08,659
And he got back to the United States,
but his health has been destroyed.
991
00:59:08,754 --> 00:59:12,542
His mind has been destroyed.
Periodically, he gets medicated.
992
00:59:12,632 --> 00:59:15,339
Periodically,
he's been hospitalized.
993
00:59:15,427 --> 00:59:20,842
But without pretty constant supervision,
he stops taking the medication,
994
00:59:20,932 --> 00:59:24,925
and then, um, reverts
to the terrors.
995
00:59:25,312 --> 00:59:27,769
J
996
00:59:37,741 --> 00:59:40,574
[ Narrator I while Billy Dean Smith
was in solitary confinement,
997
00:59:40,786 --> 00:59:43,869
the house internal security committee
at the United States congress...
998
00:59:44,372 --> 00:59:47,114
Held a series of hearings
on the g.I. Movement.
999
00:59:47,417 --> 00:59:49,874
The congressmen declared
there was no movement,
1000
00:59:49,961 --> 00:59:54,204
only a handful of what they called
"militant extremists of the far left.โ
1001
00:59:54,341 --> 00:59:56,252
But the hearings,
spanning nine months,
1002
00:59:56,551 --> 00:59:59,133
produced thousands
of pages of testimony...
1003
00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:03,714
Illustrating how broadly and deeply
the g.I. Movement had spread.
1004
01:00:03,809 --> 01:00:07,597
Many of us are very convinced
Nixon had to go to an air war...
1005
01:00:07,687 --> 01:00:09,678
Because he couldn't trust us
on the ground.
1006
01:00:09,815 --> 01:00:12,978
And for good reason. We were shooting his
officers and refusing direct orders...
1007
01:00:13,401 --> 01:00:15,858
To go into combat,
where we could.
1008
01:00:15,946 --> 01:00:18,688
He had to go to an air war,
where there is no relationship.
1009
01:00:18,949 --> 01:00:22,362
It's totally impersonal. You
know, the pilots fly from Guam.
1010
01:00:22,536 --> 01:00:24,993
You know, a thousand miles away.
They drop, you know,
1011
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,993
several tons... how many tons of bombs... they
fly back again, they don't see the damage.
1012
01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:33,168
There's no relationship to what they
do, their job to people's lives.
1013
01:00:33,338 --> 01:00:36,751
I still wanted to fly. I was getting
the impression that the war was wrong.
1014
01:00:37,217 --> 01:00:39,674
I was gonna be part of it.
1015
01:00:39,761 --> 01:00:44,380
I wasn't gonna be carrying a gun. I
wasn't going to be shooting these people.
1016
01:00:44,683 --> 01:00:47,220
It was rationalization
on my part.
1017
01:00:47,477 --> 01:00:51,595
But I still wanted to fly. I still
wanted to have that... that experience.
1018
01:00:51,857 --> 01:00:54,439
During basic training,
I got the opportunity of...
1019
01:00:54,609 --> 01:00:57,271
Half a day off of training
if I took the language test.
1020
01:00:57,654 --> 01:01:00,236
So I took the language test,
and little did I know that was...
1021
01:01:00,448 --> 01:01:04,066
That was the end of that story.
I was taught vietnamese,
1022
01:01:04,161 --> 01:01:07,449
taught radio intercept, and went
immediately to southeast Asia.
1023
01:01:13,253 --> 01:01:15,710
Bomb damage assessments.
1024
01:01:15,797 --> 01:01:21,508
We would be given notification of where
air strikes were going to take place.
1025
01:01:21,595 --> 01:01:23,460
Part of our job
was to monitor...
1026
01:01:23,555 --> 01:01:27,594
The actual north vietnamese
assessment...
1027
01:01:27,684 --> 01:01:29,549
Of the damage
of that air strike.
1028
01:01:29,644 --> 01:01:33,057
Primarily what we had there
was really sophisticated...
1029
01:01:33,148 --> 01:01:36,436
Electronic eavesdropping
devices...
1030
01:01:36,526 --> 01:01:39,142
So we could eavesdrop
on communications...
1031
01:01:39,237 --> 01:01:42,525
That were taking place
between vietnamese units...
1032
01:01:42,616 --> 01:01:45,232
And their commands.
1033
01:01:45,327 --> 01:01:48,410
We would receive information...
1034
01:01:48,663 --> 01:01:50,824
Which was then analyzed,
1035
01:01:50,916 --> 01:01:53,874
and that became intelligence,
1036
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,248
and then that was picked through
and become product...
1037
01:01:57,505 --> 01:02:00,622
For the joint chiefs of staff,
president...
1038
01:02:00,842 --> 01:02:03,154
One of the things
about me, that changed my mind,
1039
01:02:03,178 --> 01:02:05,544
was that I knew
what was happening...
1040
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:10,053
In country was not what was being told
to the people of the United States.
1041
01:02:24,699 --> 01:02:28,692
[ Bernard I
the bombing of populated areas,
1042
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,577
civilian areas,
the bombing of hospitals...
1043
01:02:31,665 --> 01:02:36,329
Things that the U.S. denied
over and over and over again,
1044
01:02:36,586 --> 01:02:39,953
that we were engaged in...
Those are things that...
1045
01:02:40,465 --> 01:02:44,253
We were engaged in, and we had
access to that information,
1046
01:02:44,344 --> 01:02:48,758
and the lies were so stark... you know,
it challenged your own dignity.
1047
01:02:49,057 --> 01:02:52,094
It challenged your own loyalty,
it challenged your own humanity.
1048
01:02:56,481 --> 01:02:59,223
Given the very job
that we did, which was...
1049
01:02:59,526 --> 01:03:01,687
"Listen to the vietnamese,"
1050
01:03:02,112 --> 01:03:05,400
is that we were allowed
to enter their minds.
1051
01:03:05,490 --> 01:03:09,824
And we were allowed to enter
their hearts, their feelings...
1052
01:03:09,911 --> 01:03:12,277
People began to develop
relationships.
1053
01:03:12,622 --> 01:03:16,615
Mental relationships with the people
that they were listening to every day.
1054
01:03:16,793 --> 01:03:20,251
That was a real
conscientious contention there also.
1055
01:03:20,380 --> 01:03:23,622
A dichotomy, in that
if we did our job right,
1056
01:03:23,717 --> 01:03:25,833
we would save
the lives of Americans.
1057
01:03:25,927 --> 01:03:29,761
If we did our job right,
we would cost the lives...
1058
01:03:29,848 --> 01:03:31,463
Of tens of thousands
of viethamese.
1059
01:03:33,685 --> 01:03:37,644
[ Bernard I and so it put us into
that position where we had to...
1060
01:03:38,064 --> 01:03:39,975
Uh, there was no way
we could win.
1061
01:03:40,275 --> 01:03:42,732
I had to do something. And that's
the point of what that is:
1062
01:03:42,819 --> 01:03:44,855
We did something.
We had to do something.
1063
01:03:44,988 --> 01:03:49,527
We went to v.V.A.W.,
we went to, uh,
1064
01:03:49,701 --> 01:03:52,192
as many groups as we could
find, and tell them...
1065
01:03:52,454 --> 01:03:55,014
What we were gonna do... we were
basically gonna back to n.K.P...
1066
01:03:55,498 --> 01:03:58,740
And do what we could
to stop the war.
1067
01:03:58,835 --> 01:04:00,955
And I think that we made the
decision on that leave...
1068
01:04:01,046 --> 01:04:02,877
That we were gonna do the paper.
1069
01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:05,296
You know, we were gonna
do as much as we could,
1070
01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:08,383
during this last year of our
service, to stop what was goin' on.
1071
01:04:08,595 --> 01:04:12,838
Yeah, we did everything that we
could, legally, to get their goat...
1072
01:04:13,308 --> 01:04:15,845
And that's how it kinda...
The worms got started.
1073
01:04:16,353 --> 01:04:18,622
And we began to have parties, and
then they started talking about,
1074
01:04:18,646 --> 01:04:20,432
"what is the lowest
thing on the earth?"
1075
01:04:20,523 --> 01:04:23,936
And somebody said, "worms." And
there was the acronym, worms,
1076
01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:26,856
which stands for, "we openly
resist military stupidity.โ
1077
01:04:27,113 --> 01:04:29,273
[ Bernard I "we don't write
worms eye view fo convince.
1078
01:04:29,324 --> 01:04:32,862
"We write worms eye view to communicate.
We don't need money. We need each other.
1079
01:04:33,203 --> 01:04:37,071
We openly resist military stupidity.
And we openly love each other.โ
1080
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:42,789
We had a big party one night,
and I remember we had taken...
1081
01:04:43,171 --> 01:04:46,004
An effigy of
our commanding officer.
1082
01:04:46,216 --> 01:04:48,673
After we burned our
commanding officer in effigy,
1083
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,797
I looked around, and there was
a large group of people...
1084
01:04:52,305 --> 01:04:54,671
On the perimeter,
that had circled us.
1085
01:04:54,808 --> 01:04:57,015
And it was the security police.
1086
01:04:57,102 --> 01:05:00,185
And, uh, they were startin' to
close in on us. They had dogs.
1087
01:05:00,563 --> 01:05:02,333
And they had dogs, right. They had dogs.
1088
01:05:02,357 --> 01:05:06,100
And once they got close enough to
figure out what we were doin'...
1089
01:05:06,194 --> 01:05:07,855
They joined us. They joined us.
1090
01:05:10,073 --> 01:05:13,531
[ Narrator I with the air assault
coming mainly from aircraft carriers,
1091
01:05:13,660 --> 01:05:16,402
sailors and airmen became
the center of the g.I. Movement.
1092
01:05:16,496 --> 01:05:22,162
On the u.S.S. Coral sea, 1,200 signed a
petition demanding their ship stay home.
1093
01:05:22,252 --> 01:05:26,916
And San Diego, California, home of the
carriers constellation and kitty hawk,
1094
01:05:27,006 --> 01:05:31,625
spawned a movement led by a group
of Navy officers and enlisted men.
1095
01:05:31,719 --> 01:05:34,677
We truly believed
what would stop that war...
1096
01:05:34,764 --> 01:05:37,301
Was when the soldiers
stopped fighting it.
1097
01:05:37,475 --> 01:05:40,308
I was still an active officer,
as were all these other guys,
1098
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,135
and sailors and enlisted people.
1099
01:05:42,188 --> 01:05:44,600
As we sat around
and brainstormed...
1100
01:05:44,691 --> 01:05:48,479
About what kind of a nonviolent
action can we take...
1101
01:05:48,570 --> 01:05:51,733
That can actually touch sailors?
1102
01:05:52,115 --> 01:05:55,403
So we looked around and
we saw the aircraft carrier,
1103
01:05:55,493 --> 01:05:57,779
which is the biggest ship
in San Diego harbor,
1104
01:05:58,204 --> 01:06:00,820
it's the most impressive
symbol of American power.
1105
01:06:03,835 --> 01:06:06,076
Is not a naval ship anymore,
1106
01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:09,876
it's really part of the air power
that we use to attack peasants.
1107
01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:13,003
It's the weapon of a bully.
It's a weapon of aggression.
1108
01:06:17,724 --> 01:06:21,182
The original concept came,
well, let's do something...
1109
01:06:21,269 --> 01:06:24,306
Where we allow the people
on board that ship...
1110
01:06:24,564 --> 01:06:29,775
To cast a ballot as to whether or not they
think they should go back to Vietnam.
1111
01:06:29,861 --> 01:06:32,819
Let's just hear their voice.
Then we said, no.
1112
01:06:32,906 --> 01:06:36,148
This election should be held in every
shopping center in San Diego county.
1113
01:06:36,451 --> 01:06:39,251
And every safeway store ought to have
a little polling booth outside...
1114
01:06:39,496 --> 01:06:41,474
And we ought to see how many
ballots we can collect...
1115
01:06:41,498 --> 01:06:44,205
And we're gonna point
toward a day.
1116
01:06:47,295 --> 01:06:49,377
Stay. Okay.
1117
01:06:49,464 --> 01:06:50,954
I think we should go.
1118
01:06:51,132 --> 01:06:52,838
Stay. Stay.
1119
01:06:53,343 --> 01:06:54,674
Stay. Stay.
1120
01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:56,376
Stay.
1121
01:06:58,097 --> 01:07:00,509
Heck, I was
a carrier-qualified aviator,
1122
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:05,264
and that gave me a lot of credibility
with people, earned or not earned.
1123
01:07:05,563 --> 01:07:08,680
And even though I hadn't
been in combat, uh,
1124
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,642
people would give you a certain
amount of credence, of course,
1125
01:07:11,736 --> 01:07:14,352
because I knew a whole lot about
how the military functioned.
1126
01:07:14,447 --> 01:07:18,065
See, I used to be a lieutenant
in the Navy. U.S.N.
1127
01:07:18,576 --> 01:07:20,513
And I've flown. I'm not kiddin' ya.
You're kiddin" me.
1128
01:07:20,537 --> 01:07:23,529
I can prove it to ya. I'm a retired
master sergeant from the air force.
1129
01:07:23,623 --> 01:07:27,411
- Yeah.
- My, uh, my only question is,
1130
01:07:27,502 --> 01:07:29,458
why do you people
have to look so weird?
1131
01:07:29,671 --> 01:07:33,755
Like this one here. Uh, can't you just
look normal, like everybody else?
1132
01:07:34,092 --> 01:07:36,378
Don't I look normal?
1133
01:07:36,594 --> 01:07:40,428
There was nobody, from the captain
of that ship, to the mayor of the city,
1134
01:07:40,515 --> 01:07:43,473
who did not hold a press
conference about this project.
1135
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,472
Everybody was commenting on it. U.S.
senators were commenting on it.
1136
01:07:46,563 --> 01:07:50,897
You know, even if the city
votes for that ship to stay,
1137
01:07:50,984 --> 01:07:54,772
we're still going... well, I guess so.
1138
01:07:54,862 --> 01:07:56,773
The captain of the ship
says, "well, I know...
1139
01:07:57,031 --> 01:07:58,862
"There's a lot of people
who don't want to go,
1140
01:07:59,242 --> 01:08:02,780
but the military's full of
malcontents.โ he said that.
1141
01:08:08,459 --> 01:08:11,747
We believe...
1142
01:08:11,838 --> 01:08:13,624
That peace is at hand.
1143
01:08:14,007 --> 01:08:16,749
You know, the peace that was
at hand quickly disappeared...
1144
01:08:17,051 --> 01:08:20,885
After the reelection, and of
course, given the vantage point...
1145
01:08:20,972 --> 01:08:24,715
Of everybody working
in a... in an n.S.A. Unit,
1146
01:08:24,809 --> 01:08:27,551
you know, we knew
what was coming up.
1147
01:08:29,480 --> 01:08:32,313
A decision by the president
of the United States...
1148
01:08:32,525 --> 01:08:34,356
And by Henry kissinger...
1149
01:08:34,444 --> 01:08:38,107
To bomb north Vietnam
back into the stone age...
1150
01:08:38,323 --> 01:08:41,156
As their last message
to the vietnamese...
1151
01:08:41,367 --> 01:08:44,655
Before we withdrew entirely.
1152
01:08:44,746 --> 01:08:46,932
I think everybody that was
involved in our operations...
1153
01:08:46,956 --> 01:08:52,417
Was faced with the stark reality of
participating in something which...
1154
01:08:52,503 --> 01:08:58,043
Bordered on what we consider to be
criminal, genocidal, unprecedented.
1155
01:08:58,259 --> 01:09:02,673
So we felt very much in
solidarity with other g.L.S...
1156
01:09:03,056 --> 01:09:05,513
Who were refusing
to participate...
1157
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,934
Particularly people refusing
to fly b-52s over the north.
1158
01:09:11,606 --> 01:09:15,190
People stopped producing
the intelligence product...
1159
01:09:15,276 --> 01:09:20,441
That we were supposed to be producing by
monitoring north vietnamese communications.
1160
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:24,678
When you're not interpreting
what you're hearing,
1161
01:09:24,702 --> 01:09:29,992
and you're not passing along the
intelligence that you're receiving,
1162
01:09:30,416 --> 01:09:34,705
the people who are supposed to be getting
the information don't get any information.
1163
01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:39,919
The air force was no longer
a reliable instrument, okay,
1164
01:09:40,385 --> 01:09:42,046
for carrying out the war.
1165
01:09:45,098 --> 01:09:48,431
[ Narrator I the Vietnam war
ended on April 30, 1975,
1166
01:09:48,685 --> 01:09:53,896
as north vietnamese and national
liberation front troops entered Saigon.
1167
01:09:54,190 --> 01:09:58,103
And even as the last remaining
Americans were returning home,
1168
01:09:58,611 --> 01:10:03,605
the memory and reality of the g.I.
Antiwar movement was being rewritten.
1169
01:10:05,576 --> 01:10:08,784
Yeah, they love
everybody back there.
1170
01:10:08,871 --> 01:10:11,829
Cats. Dogs.
1171
01:10:11,916 --> 01:10:15,750
Niggers, spics, and they're real
fond of Luke the gook back home.
1172
01:10:15,837 --> 01:10:17,623
Y'all can believe that.
1173
01:10:18,005 --> 01:10:21,839
They love everybody but you.
1174
01:10:21,926 --> 01:10:25,839
The typical story of
a spat-upon vet...
1175
01:10:26,305 --> 01:10:30,264
Is arriving at
the San Francisco airport,
1176
01:10:30,476 --> 01:10:33,434
and... where he's met
by demonstrators.
1177
01:10:33,521 --> 01:10:38,356
And he says, "the first thing that happened
when I got off the plane in San Francisco,
1178
01:10:38,443 --> 01:10:41,355
"a girl in love beads
and a headband...
1179
01:10:41,487 --> 01:10:44,274
Spat in my face
and called me a baby-killer.โ
1180
01:10:44,532 --> 01:10:48,821
That version of the story has been
told over and over and over again.
1181
01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:51,702
Being a Vietnam vet,
and having come home...
1182
01:10:51,789 --> 01:10:53,871
And worked with
the antiwar movement...
1183
01:10:53,958 --> 01:10:57,075
These just didn't resonate
as true, to me.
1184
01:10:57,545 --> 01:11:01,254
So I began to be... get interested in
then, where did these stories come from?
1185
01:11:01,424 --> 01:11:03,961
And how long
had they been around?
1186
01:11:04,051 --> 01:11:06,963
Who had began telling them? I
went back to the point in time...
1187
01:11:07,054 --> 01:11:09,796
The late '60s, early 1970s...
1188
01:11:10,099 --> 01:11:12,556
To see whether there's any
reports in newspaper stories...
1189
01:11:12,643 --> 01:11:16,477
That activists were
spitting on Vietnam vets...
1190
01:11:16,981 --> 01:11:21,645
No, I didn't find anything. I looked
at some national lawyers guild...
1191
01:11:21,736 --> 01:11:25,979
Observation projects of demonstrations,
whether there's anything at their archives...
1192
01:11:26,115 --> 01:11:28,322
About this... no, nothing there.
1193
01:11:28,409 --> 01:11:30,991
Were any Vietnam vets claiming
that they were being spat on?
1194
01:11:31,370 --> 01:11:35,784
You know, were any pro-war people then
claiming that Vietnam vets were being spat on?
1195
01:11:36,083 --> 01:11:40,076
No. So I thought, well, now, this
is getting really interesting.
1196
01:11:40,505 --> 01:11:43,622
I was telling a friend of mine,
who's a psychologist,
1197
01:11:43,841 --> 01:11:45,456
she also teaches
in women's studies.
1198
01:11:45,551 --> 01:11:49,760
I was telling her that I was working on a
book about Vietnam vets having been spat on.
1199
01:11:49,931 --> 01:11:53,423
And she said, "well, that's really interesting.โ
she said, "who had done the spitting?"
1200
01:11:53,518 --> 01:11:55,638
I said, "what do you mean?โ
she said, "well, you know,
1201
01:11:56,020 --> 01:11:57,601
the demographics
of the spitters.โ
1202
01:11:57,688 --> 01:12:03,024
And I said, "well, you know,
young women, protestors,
1203
01:12:03,528 --> 01:12:05,064
you know, hippies.โ
1204
01:12:05,196 --> 01:12:07,733
And she broke out
in this big smile and she says,
1205
01:12:08,241 --> 01:12:09,856
"gotta be a myth, huh?"
1206
01:12:09,951 --> 01:12:13,409
And-and I knew what was coming next.
I knew what she was gonna say...
1207
01:12:13,496 --> 01:12:16,784
Next, which was
that, "girls don't spit."
1208
01:12:16,874 --> 01:12:18,785
Now, whether girls spit
or not, um,
1209
01:12:19,043 --> 01:12:21,500
I've had some other
conversations about that.
1210
01:12:21,587 --> 01:12:25,921
But it seems pretty unlikely that
these spitting incidents occurred.
1211
01:12:26,008 --> 01:12:28,420
A lot of these stories,
again, begin with,
1212
01:12:28,511 --> 01:12:31,469
"well, we arrived at
the San Francisco airport.โ
1213
01:12:31,556 --> 01:12:34,639
No, you didn't arrive at the San
Francisco airport.
1214
01:12:35,101 --> 01:12:38,935
Nobody did. You maybe arrived at
Travis air base, near San Francisco,
1215
01:12:39,021 --> 01:12:43,481
and then you were discharged,
or you were processed out,
1216
01:12:43,651 --> 01:12:46,859
and then you went to the San
Francisco airport, you know?
1217
01:12:47,238 --> 01:12:50,526
That's possible. But... but that's
not the way the stories are told.
1218
01:12:50,616 --> 01:12:54,279
They're, you know, "we were met
on the tarmac at"...
1219
01:12:54,453 --> 01:12:57,786
"At San Francisco airport." Too many guys
got off at the San Francisco airport.
1220
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,951
Somebody's making
something up here.
1221
01:13:00,251 --> 01:13:03,368
And certainly,
if it was at, um...
1222
01:13:03,462 --> 01:13:06,420
If it was at military,
you know, air force bases...
1223
01:13:06,507 --> 01:13:09,544
There couldn't have been... couldn't
have been protestors on the base,
1224
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:14,299
much less on the tarmac, or-or
at... you know, at gateside...
1225
01:13:14,473 --> 01:13:16,304
To meet people.
1226
01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:18,974
There are stories...
Many stories of...
1227
01:13:19,437 --> 01:13:22,520
Wounded Vietnam vets
being unloaded,
1228
01:13:22,732 --> 01:13:26,099
people on stretchers
being carried from the plane...
1229
01:13:26,319 --> 01:13:29,402
And-and they are spat on
by protestors who are,
1230
01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:31,395
you know, who are lining
the walkway.
1231
01:13:31,574 --> 01:13:35,533
Some of those stories
just really defy common sense.
1232
01:13:35,745 --> 01:13:38,532
But-but these stories
are picked up.
1233
01:13:38,789 --> 01:13:41,030
They're picked up and
they're used, they're used...
1234
01:13:41,542 --> 01:13:43,123
They're used
very authoritatively.
1235
01:13:43,210 --> 01:13:45,622
Then I come back to the world...
1236
01:13:45,713 --> 01:13:48,170
And I see all those maggots
at the airport...
1237
01:13:48,466 --> 01:13:52,675
Protestin' me, spittin'... callin' me a
baby-killer and all kinds of vile crap...
1238
01:13:53,179 --> 01:13:54,794
Who are they to protest me, huh?
1239
01:13:54,889 --> 01:13:57,926
If you went back and looked at
the front pages of newspapers...
1240
01:13:58,434 --> 01:14:01,016
In 1969, 1970,
1241
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,875
you know, what were you gonna see on the front
pages of newspapers about vietham vets?
1242
01:14:04,899 --> 01:14:08,517
They're in the streets.
They're political activists.
1243
01:14:08,736 --> 01:14:13,196
They're on the capitol mall. They're
givin' the Nixon administration fits.
1244
01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:16,862
This was stuff that was in
living rooms all over America.
1245
01:14:17,036 --> 01:14:20,870
So people knew this, and this is an
important piece for talking about,
1246
01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:23,915
how memory about the war...
1247
01:14:24,001 --> 01:14:27,164
Has been rewritten.
1248
01:14:27,546 --> 01:14:29,457
Has been reconstructed.
This is gone.
1249
01:14:29,548 --> 01:14:31,914
This has been erased.
1250
01:14:32,259 --> 01:14:33,920
This has been displaced.
1251
01:14:35,638 --> 01:14:38,801
You mention the war in
Vietnam to a lot of people,
1252
01:14:39,183 --> 01:14:43,847
and they'll say, "yeah, and what happened to those
guys when they came home was sure a shame."
1253
01:14:43,938 --> 01:14:46,850
You ask them about, um,
1254
01:14:46,941 --> 01:14:51,560
any of the major events of the war,
and it's like, people have no clue.
1255
01:14:51,654 --> 01:14:54,361
J
1256
01:14:56,867 --> 01:15:00,610
J 1 don't want nobody over me j
1257
01:15:00,746 --> 01:15:04,705
j and I don't want
nobody under me j
1258
01:15:04,792 --> 01:15:08,284
j insubordination j
1259
01:15:09,672 --> 01:15:11,583
in the spring of 1971,
1260
01:15:11,674 --> 01:15:13,790
the f.T.A. Show toured Asia.
1261
01:15:13,884 --> 01:15:17,627
Despite being banned from
military bases worldwide,
1262
01:15:17,722 --> 01:15:20,714
the show performed in Japan,
okinawa, and the Philippines...
1263
01:15:20,808 --> 01:15:23,971
For over 60,000 soldiers.
1264
01:15:24,353 --> 01:15:27,595
And at every stop,
g.L.S took the stage with them.
1265
01:15:27,690 --> 01:15:29,726
[ Soldier I we can
no longer remain silent...
1266
01:15:29,859 --> 01:15:34,523
About the atrocities and injustice being
perpetrated by the United States military...
1267
01:15:34,613 --> 01:15:38,401
On peoples of other nations, nor the petty
harassment that servicemen and women...
1268
01:15:38,492 --> 01:15:40,608
Are made to endure,
day after day.
1269
01:15:40,703 --> 01:15:43,183
We demand an end to
all discriminating policies...
1270
01:15:43,414 --> 01:15:45,154
Against persons
because of their race.
1271
01:15:45,624 --> 01:15:48,081
We demand an end
to all discrimination...
1272
01:15:48,169 --> 01:15:51,206
Against persons such as
antiwar g.L.S,
1273
01:15:51,464 --> 01:15:53,455
because they do not agree
with U.S. policies.
1274
01:15:53,674 --> 01:15:55,835
Right on!
1275
01:15:55,926 --> 01:15:58,406
And we demand an immediate...
Immediate and total withdrawal...
1276
01:15:58,637 --> 01:16:02,004
Of all air and ground troops
and c.L.A. From Vietnam,
1277
01:16:02,099 --> 01:16:05,466
as well as from Korea,
Guam, okinawa, Japan,
1278
01:16:05,644 --> 01:16:08,135
the Philippines, Israel,
Cambodia, Thailand,
1279
01:16:08,647 --> 01:16:11,059
Germany, england, Panama...
1280
01:16:11,150 --> 01:16:13,732
Guantanamo bay, Laos...
1281
01:16:14,195 --> 01:16:18,234
I mean, it seems unthinkable now,
that we could have done this.
1282
01:16:18,616 --> 01:16:23,736
And that you could have a hall full
of guys with their fists in the air.
1283
01:16:24,163 --> 01:16:28,497
So happy that we had come...
1284
01:16:28,584 --> 01:16:32,202
To acknowledge their reality.
1285
01:16:32,463 --> 01:16:36,581
J I read that you took a stand j
1286
01:16:36,675 --> 01:16:41,590
j and refused to kill
in vietham j
1287
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,922
j you said
no man was your enemy j
1288
01:16:46,644 --> 01:16:50,262
j if what he's fighting for
is to be free j
1289
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,896
[ Fonda I I used to love to
watch the faces of the g.L.S...
1290
01:16:53,192 --> 01:16:58,687
When she sang that... it was like this
shell of tension would drop away.
1291
01:16:58,781 --> 01:17:03,241
And you would see the youth and the
innocence and the vulnerability underneath.
1292
01:17:04,912 --> 01:17:07,995
J soldier, we love you j
1293
01:17:08,499 --> 01:17:11,536
j yes, soldier, we love you j
1294
01:17:14,046 --> 01:17:16,628
j standin' strong, 'cause it's j
1295
01:17:17,091 --> 01:17:19,252
j hard to do j
1296
01:17:19,343 --> 01:17:23,427
j what you know you must do
'cause it's true j
1297
01:17:23,514 --> 01:17:26,472
j yes, it's true j
1298
01:17:26,559 --> 01:17:31,303
j they lock you up
and rest their case j
1299
01:17:31,438 --> 01:17:34,726
j yeah, they locked you up
'cause they're afraid
1300
01:17:34,817 --> 01:17:39,561
j that you would rap
and spread the word j
1301
01:17:40,030 --> 01:17:43,864
j but you can't jail truth
it will be heard j
1302
01:17:43,951 --> 01:17:46,693
j oh, ain't it hard j
1303
01:17:46,954 --> 01:17:51,368
j to smile sometimes j
1304
01:17:51,458 --> 01:17:53,494
[ narrator I in April of 1971,
1305
01:17:53,586 --> 01:17:58,546
just five years after Howard Levy and
Donald Duncan's lone acts of protest,
1306
01:17:58,632 --> 01:18:02,466
thousands of Vietnam veterans against
the war converged on Washington, D.C...
1307
01:18:02,553 --> 01:18:06,922
And threw their medals
onto the capitol steps.
1308
01:18:07,016 --> 01:18:11,385
We don't wanna fight anymore, but if we have
to fight again, it'll be to take these steps.
1309
01:18:13,564 --> 01:18:16,146
You know, it's kind
of a unique opportunity.
1310
01:18:16,609 --> 01:18:19,351
It's... it's very rare,
I think, in anybody's life,
1311
01:18:19,653 --> 01:18:23,237
that you have an opportunity to really
think that you are changing history.
1312
01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:25,238
That you're a part of history.
1313
01:18:25,492 --> 01:18:30,703
The reality is, at first they couldn't
believe g.L.S were protestin' the war.
1314
01:18:30,789 --> 01:18:32,825
That-that blew their minds.
1315
01:18:32,958 --> 01:18:35,870
When we had 1,000 g.L.S in 1970,
1316
01:18:36,003 --> 01:18:38,369
they thought... they didn't
know how to react to that.
1317
01:18:38,505 --> 01:18:41,167
'Cause they thought, ah, a bunch
of them, they go down there,
1318
01:18:41,258 --> 01:18:44,421
and they're probably all just talkin',
but how many of them are there?
1319
01:18:44,595 --> 01:18:46,586
They tried to
turn me into a killer.
1320
01:18:46,805 --> 01:18:49,797
They tried to turn me into somebody
who would take another life.
1321
01:18:49,892 --> 01:18:53,760
If there's one thing in my life I
feel like that I've accomplished...
1322
01:18:54,230 --> 01:18:56,095
It's that I... I didn't
allow that to happen.
1323
01:18:56,440 --> 01:19:00,103
I really learned so much, you know, just
spendin' day after day after day...
1324
01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:03,561
You know, just people
talkin' about, you know,
1325
01:19:03,739 --> 01:19:06,219
what's it all about, and how are
we gonna deal with this stuff?
1326
01:19:06,492 --> 01:19:08,773
How are we really gonna move it forward?
Change the world.
1327
01:19:08,994 --> 01:19:11,473
That's what everybody wanted to do.
We wanted to change the world.
1328
01:19:11,497 --> 01:19:14,830
We were pretty sure this sucked. We were
pretty sure none of us deserved to be here.
1329
01:19:15,084 --> 01:19:17,746
And... so that didn't leave much
room but to change the world.
1330
01:19:18,128 --> 01:19:21,088
People say, "well, you keep going back.
Why are you going back to Vietnam?"
1331
01:19:21,173 --> 01:19:24,333
We have to go back to Vietnam because
I'll tell you what... the other side does.
1332
01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:29,504
They're always going back. And
they have to go back. The hawks.
1333
01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:32,757
You know, the patriarchs. They
have to go back because...
1334
01:19:32,851 --> 01:19:35,809
And they have to revise
the going back...
1335
01:19:35,896 --> 01:19:39,559
Because they can't
allow us to know...
1336
01:19:39,692 --> 01:19:41,853
What the "back thereโ
really was.
1337
01:19:41,944 --> 01:19:44,902
And then you think
about this shit, man.
1338
01:19:44,989 --> 01:19:46,900
Then you say,
1339
01:19:47,157 --> 01:19:49,614
"goddamn!
1340
01:19:49,702 --> 01:19:52,114
"Did I do that?
1341
01:19:52,413 --> 01:19:56,281
"Did I actually
live in that shit?
1342
01:19:56,375 --> 01:20:00,744
Did this government
push me into this shit?"
1343
01:20:01,005 --> 01:20:03,963
What's the... what's the pride
in sayin' you're a veteran...
1344
01:20:04,049 --> 01:20:08,463
If you were... what you're a
veteran of is somethin' wrong?
1345
01:20:09,596 --> 01:20:12,508
It's like, uh,
1346
01:20:12,641 --> 01:20:15,633
being a veteran
of the massacre...
1347
01:20:15,728 --> 01:20:17,684
At someplace or
another, you know?
1348
01:20:17,855 --> 01:20:23,350
That... no, uh...
There's no pride to that.
1349
01:20:23,652 --> 01:20:25,563
And so, don't talk about it.
1350
01:20:25,654 --> 01:20:28,612
Go away. Don't talk about it.
1351
01:20:28,699 --> 01:20:30,815
So it's amazing to me
that as many...
1352
01:20:30,909 --> 01:20:33,821
As many g.L.S that were
actually in vietham...
1353
01:20:33,912 --> 01:20:36,324
Actually there...
1354
01:20:36,665 --> 01:20:40,783
Uh, then spoke out against it,
and demonstrated against it.
1355
01:20:40,878 --> 01:20:44,791
After they got back. I just
thought that was... amazing.
1356
01:20:45,257 --> 01:20:48,340
That there were...
That, if there had been 100,
1357
01:20:48,594 --> 01:20:50,425
I would have been amazed.
1358
01:20:50,512 --> 01:20:53,845
That there were thousands
is just...
1359
01:20:55,225 --> 01:20:57,682
Incredible. Incredible.
1360
01:20:57,770 --> 01:21:00,432
Brave people.
J soldier, we love you j
1361
01:21:03,567 --> 01:21:08,732
j standin' strong
yes, it's hard to do j;
1362
01:21:09,114 --> 01:21:13,323
j what you know you must do
'cause it's true j
1363
01:21:13,535 --> 01:21:15,446
j yes, it's true j
1364
01:21:15,537 --> 01:21:17,619
j we love you j
1365
01:21:17,706 --> 01:21:20,038
j ooh, ooh, ooh j
1366
01:21:20,459 --> 01:21:24,452
j [ Humming I
1367
01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:26,791
j
1368
01:21:26,882 --> 01:21:31,000
J get your ass off the floor
get that ass off the floor j
1369
01:21:31,261 --> 01:21:34,101
j just killed my first,
but it may not be the last one j
1370
01:21:34,306 --> 01:21:37,026
j I screamed this at the sergeant
with his head pressed to the Magnum
1371
01:21:37,351 --> 01:21:39,808
j you sent us to this country
not to free but body-bag them [
1372
01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:43,058
j and free up all their money so
accounting firms can nag them j
1373
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:45,856
j drag them and their corporals
to their own battle j
1374
01:21:45,943 --> 01:21:48,901
j since they're sendin' us
to the slaughter like cattle j
1375
01:21:48,987 --> 01:21:51,649
j me and this whole unit
we will start to ramshackle j
1376
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:54,777
j listen very closely you
can hear the fire crackle j
1377
01:21:55,035 --> 01:21:57,902
j you cut away their airway he
was breathing out his nostrils j
1378
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,537
j couldn't understand why we
were seeming so hostile j
1379
01:22:00,624 --> 01:22:03,661
j said we spread democracy
like he was preaching gospel j
1380
01:22:03,752 --> 01:22:06,744
j slapped him in his head and said,
now, shut up sergeant rosco j
1381
01:22:06,839 --> 01:22:09,751
j this is not explicit
let me tell you straight out j
1382
01:22:09,842 --> 01:22:12,675
j we're no longer gonna keep
this country drained out j
1383
01:22:12,845 --> 01:22:15,507
j we want up out of here
like on the next planes out j
1384
01:22:15,597 --> 01:22:18,464
j so the cap make it happen
or we blow his brains out j
1385
01:22:18,642 --> 01:22:21,008
j it's a rap thing grab
the back 10 j j hey
1386
01:22:21,145 --> 01:22:24,057
j plan of action
to the captain j
1387
01:22:24,148 --> 01:22:27,390
j excuse me, colonel, sir
may I request, please j
1388
01:22:27,484 --> 01:22:30,146
j permission to go home
or blow off your knees
1389
01:22:30,237 --> 01:22:32,694
j it's a rap thing grab
the back 10 j j hey
1390
01:22:32,781 --> 01:22:35,739
j yeah j j plan of
action to the captain j
1391
01:22:35,826 --> 01:22:39,318
j yeah j j in case you're wonderin'
well, yes, I'm gonna fight j
1392
01:22:39,413 --> 01:22:41,870
j I'm fixin' to join the army
but one you don't like j
1393
01:22:44,626 --> 01:22:49,916
j get your ass off the floor
get that ass off the floor j
1394
01:22:50,174 --> 01:22:56,010
j get your ass off the floor
get that ass off the floor j
1395
01:22:56,263 --> 01:23:01,974
j get your ass off the floor
get that ass off the floor j
1396
01:23:02,436 --> 01:23:06,554
j get your ass off the floor
get that ass off the floor j
1397
01:23:13,197 --> 01:23:15,358
[ Rabbit I and that's the
news for this early edition.
1398
01:23:15,449 --> 01:23:17,405
Next news will be later on.
1399
01:23:17,618 --> 01:23:20,906
The voice of news information
and hard acid-rock music,
1400
01:23:20,996 --> 01:23:24,363
this is radio first termer,
at 69 megacycles...
1401
01:23:24,541 --> 01:23:26,372
On your f.M. Dial.
1402
01:23:26,502 --> 01:23:31,747
Good night, Nguyen. Good night.
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