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Propane: Teejay at his age is probably one of
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the smartest people I've ever met.
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Davis: Teejayx6 is bringing you into the world of scamming.
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He's the leader of the scam rap.
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He's really scamming.
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Teejay: It's just free money just waiting.
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What's the point of stopping?
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Fuck do that say? I really do this shit.
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Propane: He's actually teaching people how to make money.
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How does he get away with this stuff?
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Teejay is rich. [ Laughs ]
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Teejay: I'm just trying to get a platinum plaque for my music.
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Just trying to get as rich as I can and stay rich forever.
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He been taking money from people all of these years
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and nobody's never put hands on him.
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It's not right, but we live in a world that's just unfair.
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Propane: In order for him to get caught in a scam,
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it's gonna be real tough.
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I'm not worried about law enforcement at all.
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Man: What's going on?!
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Back Up! Back Up!
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[ Sirens wail ] Man #2: Hey, free Teejay!
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Man #3: Woooow!
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In the middle of his performance? What the --
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[ Police radio chatter, siren wails ]
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Teejay: My rapper name is Teejayx6.
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I'm from Detroit Michigan, the west side.
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I scam people out of money.
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I would describe myself as a scammer, for sure, 100%,
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because I'm-a find a way to scam you out of something.
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That's just me, to be honest.
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[ Laughs ]
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Easy money is the best money to make.
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Who wouldn't love that?
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SO just the whole process of going through it,
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the greatest thing ever.
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Rapping is easy, too,
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but it's even easier just sitting at home on my ass
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on my phone making money.
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Every time I make some free money
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it just makes me want to do it again...
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over and over and over.
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I'll tell you stories, you wouldn't even believe it.
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I'll tell you how I scammed myself
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into a record deal for $10 million.
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I scammed them, for sure.
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The label has no idea they been scammed.
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But I can go into detail about that.
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Me growing up, when I was younger, like 8 or 9,
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I used to bag up parsley leaf and just sell it like weed.
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That's a hustler,
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like, you just got to do whatever you can
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to make some money.
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14, 15, I really left my Mama's house.
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I got on my own,
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just trying to make the best out of it.
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But at first I was a good -- good school student, at first.
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I was on honor roll and everything.
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Uh, the situation I was in.
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Like, I really couldn't get the things I wanted
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and I seen other people with the things I wanted.
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Like, you know what I mean? So I just gave up on school.
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School is not for me.
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Best hustler I know is my dad.
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He taught me how to hustle. He taught me how to be me.
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Every single one of my brothers scam shit on Instagram.
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That's when the Instagram shit started.
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Like, my brother was doing it first,
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and then he taught me how to do it.
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It's a family thing to hustle. Like, it's just in our blood.
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Like, I would wake up and scam.
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The most simple scam is the Instagram scam.
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You catfish a girl.
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This is how you get free flights and everything. You ready?
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So, make a fake Instagram page.
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Get some pictures from a different girl's account.
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You buy some Instagram followers --
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like 100K Instagram followers.
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You post all the pictures
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from the girl's page on your page.
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The girl don't exist.
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So you just mass follow
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and a bunch of dudes just gonna follow you back.
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Tell them to be your sugar daddy.
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You'll send them nudes and shit like this.
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You had the person send you the money -- [Audio distorts]
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Woman: Warning -- what he is describing
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can lead to incarceration.
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[ Audio distorts ] ...something like that.
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[ Phone dings ] And then when people come,
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so, you know, all them horny ass dudes gonna want to --
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[Laughs] you already know, gonna be in our DM.
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So you just be like, "Fly me out."
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Just get that -- [Audio distorts]
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Woman: Warning -- what he is describing right now
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may be a crime. This may be criminal.
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...believes that it's actually a girl that he's flying out.
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[ Phone dings ]
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Take the money, you just run away and block the person.
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It's simple.
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It's never gonna stop working.
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There it is. That's how you get scammed.
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Most money that I ever made in a day was $2,000.
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I was like 13.
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This ain't no regular little video shoot, man.
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This is real production.
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My name is Kasher Quon. I'm 23 and my occupation is rap.
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Teejay, I know he had money at 12
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'cause I was helping him make it.
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But $2,000, $3,000 for a 12-year-old is like,
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"I'm 12," you know, "I have more than my mom and dad right now."
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Kasher Quon, like, we just always been cool
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'cause the -- the scamming and all that,
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like, the hustle shit that we was doing.
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I first started rapping --
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like, I been rapping when I was young,
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but I never really took it serious
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until one day Kasher Quon took me to a studio.
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In today's age, he's like
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the top rapper in Detroit, to be honest.
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I'm really a legend. Most people will tell you
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I'm really a legend in the city, like, I'm not new.
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Like, I've always had, you know, a buzz.
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Like, I've been around the last seven years.
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So I'm like one of the main dudes
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that really created all of the whole scam rap.
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Teejay's first time in the studio
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he didn't know what to say.
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You got to say something slower,
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or you got to, like, pause and say it.
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Teejay: Come on.
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I was kind of nervous, 'cause I ain't really wrote no --
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well, I used to write music, but at that time, it was serious
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'cause I was in the studio
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and actually was rapping seriously.
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I was kind of nervous.
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Rhyme it or just say something new?
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Quon: You ain't got to rhyme or anything.
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Like, it ain't got to rhyme. Alright, cool.
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Just anything, like -- Alright, bet. Come on.
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We gonna keep finishing each other's sentences. Alright, good.
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I actually gave Teejay a verse that I had in my phone
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for like four months that I didn't --
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that I was never gonna use. I just gave it to him.
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[ Rapping ] ♪ Fuck wrong with this... You smoking angel dust? ♪
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♪ You've been rapping for too long, boy ♪
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♪ You need to hang it up ♪ ♪ I just beat a... ass ♪
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♪ And stuffed his face in the mud ♪
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♪ I just beat a... ass and spit in his face ♪
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♪ I just beat a... ♪ Aah! Aah!
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[ Both scream ] Come on, come on, come on, come on.
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Keep your fake ID.
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That was so funny.
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I created my own YouTube channel and I just started, like,
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uploading my own audios and my own videos.
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At first, it wasn't doing nothing,
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but you just got to just keep going
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and build your own fan base.
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And then from there, I just took it serious.
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♪ My cousin locked up right now... ♪
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At the time, I was 14, 15.
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I had my own money, smoking, girls, hotels, scamming.
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Quon: We didn't really care about clothes around that time,
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just candy and weed and --
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But a year later...
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♪♪
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...we started using fake credit cards
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to buy designer clothes.
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Teejay: I used to always use MSR.
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MSR is a card reader machine
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that you plug into the computer.
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You can Bluetooth it wherever.
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You don't need Wi-Fi for nothing.
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One day, me and my brother,
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we was sitting at the table cooking up some stuff,
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scamming, just looking at the card reader machine.
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It says, "X6."
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My brother gave me the name Teejayx6.
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I just went with it.
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Nope.
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You're not gonna find it.
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'Cause you're not.
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I'm good at the Internet, too.
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♪♪
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Norwood: My name is Chrysantha Norwood.
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I am the aunt of Teejayx6.
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But I don't call him Teejay.
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When Teejay was younger,
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he had aspirations of being a police officer.
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So it is a little surprising to see him
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where he is now, doing what he does.
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So, even if he was a police officer,
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he would be an amazing police officer.
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So I have a scrapbook
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and it started, actually, earlier this year.
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This is actually a picture of Teejay
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with his mom at the hospital when his son was born.
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You can see all the joy that she has.
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So Teejay is a dad
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of his amazing son who is eight months old.
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And he is the love of his life.
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[ Baby squeals ]
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Teejay: I have one son. The best thing in life.
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I love it, actually. It's like a mini-me.
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And I can teach him --
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like, I can teach him better than the shit I'm doing.
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[ Laughing and speaking indistinctly ]
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I don't want him to have to do the things
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that I had to do to get to where I'm at.
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I just want him to get to a certain age
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and be able to do whatever he wants to.
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Don't never have to work a job
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or don't never have to just do anything that I had to do.
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[ Baby coos ] What?
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There was a song, "We were together,"
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and someone started to play it.
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And he's like, "Whoa, turn that off. My Aunty's here."
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He was so respectful of the fact that I was in the space
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that he said, "Not that song."
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I only know of scam rap and scam rap artists
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because that is what, uh, my nephew was billed as.
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And as I began to read more about it,
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like, so surprised because I know him
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and he doesn't use profanity in front of me.
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At that time, my page is insanely active.
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Every time I, like, post something, it goes up.
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Every time I drop music, it goes up.
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It feels great, to be honest.
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Davis: My name is Yaasiel Davis, also known as Success.
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A good friend of mine Lupe Fiasco gave me that name.
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Besides, everyone had problems pronouncing my real name
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so I was like, "This works." [ Laughs ]
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I feel like there's certain artists
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and, you know, at certain times, that embrace and -- and --
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and narrate what's going on in urban culture.
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Biggie in the 90s had a song called,
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"Ten Crack Commandments."
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Don't get high on your own supply --
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sort of rules on how to be a successful drug dealer.
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50 Cent early 2000s had a song called "How to Rob."
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Robbing and stick up kids,
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that was a big thing at the time.
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Now scamming is where, you know, it's -- it's an everyday thing.
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It's -- It's -- You can't escape scams.
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Um, and so Detroit was sort of bringing you
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into the world of scamming.
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Detroit is one of those cities where your conditions
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that you're forced to live in and grow up in
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created a special type of creativity,
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whether it's music or crime or whatever.
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That's Detroit.
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Poody: I'm Poody. I'm the CEO of TF Circle Entertainment.
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Yeah, this is a -- this is a light $40,000.
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Like, Detroit was beautiful when I was growing up.
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The plants and stuff started leaving,
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like, the Chryslers and, like, all of that started moving
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and people was out of jobs.
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That's basically when I first heard about the scams.
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That was a lot of fraud that was going on, insurance fraud,
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'cause people was burning up the houses
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to get that insurance money and never rebuilding them.
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You know, once everybody figured it out,
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and it was like a big explosion of fraud,
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like, everybody was doing it.
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Teejay, first time I met him
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I just heard he was a local scammer, to be honest.
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Teejay is rich [Laughs]...
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smart, and mysterious.
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[ Engine revs ]
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Propane: My name is Propane. I'm from Detroit.
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I'm a manager,
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worldwide international record man.
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[ Laughs ]
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I've been in the business for like 20 years, right?
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I've had, like, artists that were, like, on the verge.
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Like, I had Future early. I had Metro Boomin early.
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And in this business, it's hard to catch lightning in a bottle.
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When I first heard Teejay's music,
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Poody sent me "Dynamic Duo."
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He's like, "Man, look at this video.
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This kid blowing up."
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Teejay: "Dynamic Duo" was created
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because of a missed flight, actually.
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Somebody booked us for a show in Miami.
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The flight was at 4:00 p.m., and got to the airport at 3:30.
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At the time, we never in our life caught a flight.
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And they're like, "Your plane,
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it's like, they already in the air."
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And I'm like, "So we can't get in the air with them?"
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They're like, "No, the plane doors is closed."
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Maybe we could just go give this dude some songs or something
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for his -- for his time and for his money.
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We end up going to the studio.
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-Alright, you ready? -Mm-hmm.
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Teejay: We went in the studio for six hours,
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didn't go to sleep, and made "Dynamic Duo."
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I just heard the beat and I just said,
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"I'm mad Spirit just delayed my flight.
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Me and Teejay had a show to go to in Miami tonight."
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♪ I'm mad as hell 'cause Spirit delayed my flight ♪
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♪ Me and Teejay had a show in Miami to go to tonight ♪
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♪ Mad at the cash -- ♪
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Punching means going online,
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getting somebody else's info, ordering designer clothes,
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electronics, phone bill, anything.
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♪ I think the city bad luck, I'm about to -- ♪
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Punches, that's all a scam word
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for credit card fraud if you listen.
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♪ Man, that shit Bobby Brown ♪
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♪ Wearin' them old ass fits, boy, that shit out of style ♪
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♪ You ain't up no dog shit, I can tell that you down ♪
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♪ You need to junk that old car ♪
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♪ 'cause that bitch too loud ♪
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♪ I just went to Walmart and I tore that bitch down ♪
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It went viral.
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All the -- everybody was listening to it,
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all the rappers that you could think of.
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♪ ...with the cheese and you know we staking out ♪
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♪ 'Cause when I got your login ♪
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♪ I saw the address to your house ♪
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Davis: The dog's in the cage, they're in, like,
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this trap house-looking apartment,
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super grimy.
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What the fuck is this? I don't really get it.
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Like, I don't understand. Like, he's not rapping on beat.
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I'm used to, like, people doing melodic shit.
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And I'm listening to it and I hear these, like,
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off-beat raps and these shit --
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and shit just not mixed.
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And I'm like, "Dog, this shit is fuckin' terrible.
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What are you talking about?"
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Then people were like,
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"Man, what the hell is he talking about?
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The fuck is you listening to?"
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I'm like, "Man, this shit hard.
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Y'all don't get it. Y'all don't understand it."
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And I'm like, "This shit sucks."
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Then he sends me, uh, "Swipe Lesson 2."
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I'm like, "Dog, stop sending me shit, dog.
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This shit is fucking trash, bro.
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Like, I told you, Detroit is over with.
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Like, why are these...even rappin' up there?
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Like, it's bullshit. The beat suck.
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Like, they can't rap on beat."
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He's like, "No, you got to listen.
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He's actually teaching people how to make money."
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And he's like, "He just reads the method off the phone.
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He might not rhyme throughout the whole song,
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but he's telling you step by step
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about how to go get some money."
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I said, "Man, what the fuck?"
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Okay this is a brand new thing --
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which is not a brand new thing, actually,
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which people have been scamming in raps for years.
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But now it's just --
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Teejay just tells you how to do fraud.
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That's really the -- the easiest way to make money,
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what I just told you. Let me think of another one.
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Oh, okay.
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The Blac Chyna scam promotion.
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This is how you sell iPhones, shoes, and shit on Instagram.
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So make a fake Instagram page...
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Post pictures of shoes and clothes on Instagram
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with everything -- iPhones, iPads, Louis bags...
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Macbooks and shoes and designer clothes.
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The way that I would get people to contact me
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is because I would reach out to famous people.
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So now, Blac Chyna has a lot of followers.
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I would reach out to Blac Chyna,
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"Hey, I have $2,500 if you can promote my business."
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So they think that this is a legit brand
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because Blac Chyna just told me to come shop here.
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The person who's ordering is never getting the shoe anyway --
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[ Audio distorts ]
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Woman: Warning, this may be illegal.
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This may be criminal activity. Do not try this at home.
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That's how I scammed her at of promotion on her page.
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I was doing deals like 4 iPhones for $900.
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Like, shit like that -- just unbelievable prices.
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People was buying it.
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People would be so excited.
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"Oh, my God. I'm gonna send it to you right now.
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Do you want my debit card number?"
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"Sure." [ Laughs ]
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She doesn't post me anymore
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because people come to her and say,
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"That dude that you just posted scammed me.
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That shit was hilarious.
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Of course.
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Nah. I don't really think about that every day.
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♪♪
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Man: A rapper is accused of stealing 3,000 credit cards
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to fund his tour.
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Now, feds say the rapper had access
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to as much as $15,000,000 in credit
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and was jet setting across the country
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promoting himself as the next big music act
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out of Detroit.
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Jones: We're all susceptible to it, every single one of us.
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Everyone buys stuff online.
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And now with the pandemic that we live in in this world,
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I don't see that stopping.
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Thanks.
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My name's Brian Jones.
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I was in law enforcement for 22 years.
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I was born and raised here.
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I know about every nook and cranny
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in the city of Detroit.
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My first experience with scamming was on the job,
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which was back in 2016.
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We did a search warrant on the house.
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We're in the back room and there was a lot of, um,
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electronic equipment.
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Kind of knew what it was,
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but I'm like, "Let's take this stuff."
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So we were looking into some of the electronics that they had.
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And what they were doing is
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they were going into the dark web
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and that's where you would get the credit card numbers --
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like, our credit card numbers.
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So they'll buy them in bundles, 50, 100.
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They'll pay whatever price it is for it.
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So what they'll do is they'll take that number
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and they'll actually build up a credit card.
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And then they would just start swiping.
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Since 2016, scamming and swiping just massively blew up,
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evolving into all over the country --
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all the way from California, the east coast, you name it.
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It runs rampant everywhere.
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Swiping is the new narcotic, is what it is.
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It is totally the new narcotic.
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These young men were very, very intelligent...
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very intelligent in doing what they were doing.
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We got called down to Indiana on a case.
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They were literally making the credit cards
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in the backseat of a car.
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Probably about 1,000 credit cards that they had.
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That's really when my fascination kicked in with it.
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Davis: I went on Twitter and searched his name.
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I just want to see what people are saying about an artist
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when I typically find an artist.
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And I saw a bunch of kids just talking about him
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and adding him and posting him.
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And I was just like, "There's this --
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There's this whole wave that I was not familiar with.
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What -- What have I been missing?"
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And so from that point,
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I was sort of infatuated with this -- this kid,
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and I was just -- instantly started following him.
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If you a scammer and you think, like...
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scamming hard or whatever,
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trust me, that ain't the case.
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[ Chuckles ]
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He'd show how to get the money out of the ATM.
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Stop fuckin' playing with me.
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What the fuck do that say?
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I really do this shit.
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He would show credit cards. They call it bins.
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That is the bank identification number.
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Then he was showing what -- he calls them methods,
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but I didn't know what a method was.
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Method.
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A method is a way of getting money.
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Method is -- it's like a tutorial step by step
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on how to make money off of an app
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or just make money from something.
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Scammers learn methods -- look, I'm using terminology
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that I've heard from Teejay's Instagram page.
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Scammers use methods to -- to scam people out of money.
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So Teejay has this fraud bible
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that he sells his fans and stuff like that.
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And it has a bunch of different methods in it --
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Cash App Method, Zelle method.
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The new fraud bible has the unemployment methods in it.
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It's different schemes that come out every month,
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you know what I mean?
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So Teejay at his age is probably
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one of the smartest people I've ever met.
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He had cake at 17, like, in the safe.
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And he knew how to save his money.
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Before Teejay started, like, rapping,
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he had already made probably $1 million
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just off of Instagram and Twitter itself.
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Yeah, for sure. For sure.
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No. That's all they're doing is explaining what that is.
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They're giving you all the tools in the toolbox on how to do it.
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Are all the tools in the toolbox illegal?
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No. Alright? They're not illegal...
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until you take that hammer out
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and you bash someone over the head.
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Alright? Now you have your crime.
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Swiping is just too easy to go do.
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It's just, it's too sexy. It's too sexy. It really is.
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When you look at it like, "Wow, like, I all I need
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is a credit card number and I can -- I can get this,"
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it's -- it's too easy.
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This was not in a gang.
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This was one individual that was doing this.
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They would post nonstop on the scamming that they would do.
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They'd actually brag about it that, like,
514
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,000
they weren't gonna get caught.
515
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,000
Can't help themselves. Can't help it.
516
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000
So we would use the social media
517
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000
to help further our investigation.
518
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,000
Sometimes the context of the other individuals
519
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000
that they would have in their posts
520
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000
that would lead more to our investigation
521
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,000
where, "Oh, we just found out who this person was."
522
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000
We went and arrested him.
523
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000
It'd be amazing if they took that brain power
524
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000
and used it for good. [ Chuckles ]
525
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Yeah, I would describe myself as smart, for sure.
526
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000
Taught myself a lot.
527
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,000
Quon: Everyone can't be a scammer. You have to be smart.
528
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000
You got to have some type of knowledge up there.
529
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,000
Like, I was good with hacking, too.
530
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,000
Like, I can hack.
531
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,000
Like, how you're standing right here, right now,
532
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000
I can hack your phone right now.
533
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000
It's a thing called a VPN that you use on your phone.
534
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000
Let's say I'm trying to use your debit card
535
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000
and your number is linked to get a text message or something.
536
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000
The bank account just sent the text to your phone
537
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000
and I got the text right here.
538
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,000
It's -- It's -- I can't really say that on camera,
539
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,000
but it's like the Dark Web.
540
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Propane: So the next song he dropped, "Dark Web"...
541
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000
♪ The government tried to ban me from the dark web ♪
542
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000
♪ Tried to ban me ♪
543
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000
What's your VPN, though?
544
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,000
He told you everything to do, so, like, it was crazy.
545
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,000
"Dark Web" kind of went viral.
546
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000
♪ I made my first $10,000, took that, and turned it ♪
547
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,000
♪ One day, my bitch got mad at me ♪
548
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,000
♪ Took my clothes and burned 'em ♪
549
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000
♪ The government tried to ban me from the dark web ♪
550
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,000
I honestly don't know what the Dark Web is.
551
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000
I know that it exists because I read it.
552
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,000
I don't know what happens there,
553
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000
and I think I don't really want to know.
554
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000
There's two kinds of webs.
555
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000
There's the internet web that we all know about
556
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000
and then there's the dark web.
557
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000
And you need a couple search engines to get to that.
558
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000
They can do it right on their phones.
559
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000
Their phones, I mean, that's just a mini computer
560
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000
is all that is.
561
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000
And they became extremely, extremely experts at it,
562
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000
is what they did.
563
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000
Once I saw that video, then I went
564
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000
and instantly started watching all of his videos.
565
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,000
I saw a video called, "Swipe Story."
566
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000
♪ Break my cousin off a couple hundred 'cause... ♪
567
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,000
And I saw this kid riding around in a shopping cart [Laughs]
568
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,000
with a TV, and I was just like, "What?"
569
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000
♪ A the TV in the other hand ♪
570
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000
♪ Told her I think... ♪
571
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Davis: And then I called my assistant in.
572
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000
I was just like "Yo, have y'all seen this?"
573
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000
'Cause my assistant happens to be from Detroit.
574
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000
So, you know, "You heard of this kid?"
575
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000
She was like, "I've been seeing his name,
576
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000
but I'm not familiar with the music."
577
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000
I knew nothing about him.
578
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000
I just was hearing about
579
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:20,000
this urban legend guy from Detroit that was scamming.
580
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,000
Propane: What's different about Teejay is,
581
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000
he uses the scams to sell his music,
582
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000
Which grows his views on Instagram
583
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,000
and which grows his views on YouTube,
584
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000
which gets the label interested and says,
585
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000
"What the fuck is going on with this kid?
586
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Why is his numbers going up?"
587
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,000
Davis: So I saw the video,
588
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000
then he was popping up on research reports.
589
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000
The research report is sort of this snapshot
590
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
of who's -- who's popping at that moment --
591
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Shazam, Instagram, Twitter, Spotify,
592
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000
any of the platforms.
593
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000
Top -- Top of everybody's list.
594
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,000
because his YouTube numbers, his -- his fan engagement,
595
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,000
and then the streams were all sort of making this whirlwind
596
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
on everybody's research report.
597
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Instantly, I started making phone calls to try to figure out
598
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000
how to get in touch with him and his team.
599
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000
[ Whirring ]
600
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,000
[ Beep, whirring ]
601
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,000
There's another ten right here.
602
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000
If you got a Cash App card, DM me.
603
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,000
If you in Michigan with a Cash App card,
604
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000
DM me right now.
605
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000
Scamming conventions.
606
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000
We actually throw scamming conventions.
607
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000
When we're on tour, we'll go to a town
608
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000
and we'll just say,
609
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000
"Alright, today we'll be at this store
610
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000
or on this part of town."
611
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000
The fans then will pull up to come and take pictures,
612
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
so it'll be like kind of a meet and greet.
613
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,000
[ People shouting ]
614
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000
People come, and he might airdrop the "Fraud Bible."
615
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000
He might airdrop some methods.
616
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000
Yo! Yo!
617
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,000
Man: Y'all make sure y'all get some money
618
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,000
on that fraud book, man.
619
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Yeah.
620
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,000
[ Siren wails ]
621
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:09,000
♪♪
622
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Teejay: My Dad, every time I make an Instagram post,
623
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000
my Dad support it. It don't matter what it is.
624
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Like, he's gonna comment fire under it,
625
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,000
just every post I make.
626
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,000
Yeah, sometime he do.
627
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Sometime he calling me to check on me,
628
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000
tell me he love me and stuff like that.
629
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000
[ Cat meows ]
630
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:35,000
♪♪
631
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000
[ Siren wails ]
632
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000
Propane: I don't really have a problem with it
633
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,000
just because, like, if that's how he gets his money,
634
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000
that's how he gets his money.
635
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000
Like, it may be the right way, it may be the wrong way.
636
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Who is to say that they're right,
637
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000
and who's to say that they're wrong?
638
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,000
You know what I mean?
639
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000
Who's to say that fraud is actually wrong?
640
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000
The government says fraud is wrong.
641
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000
But, you know, who are you defrauding?
642
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Okay, let's say it like this.
643
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000
Let's say I got a credit card number and I say,
644
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000
"Boom. I'm gonna take your credit card
645
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000
and I am going to go and buy 10 flights to Dubai."
646
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Well, you as the card holder, you can get on your phone
647
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
and say, "Hey bank,
648
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000
I didn't buy these fucking flights to Dubai.
649
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Give me my money back."
650
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000
You get your money back.
651
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000
The bank is gonna press the button
652
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000
and they're gonna get the insurance
653
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000
and they're gonna get the money.
654
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000
You're gonna get your money back.
655
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,000
They're gonna get their money. They got paid.
656
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Everybody's good.
657
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,000
Who are you defrauding?
658
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000
Who are you actually getting down on?
659
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000
You know what I'm saying?
660
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000
So, I guess you did just defraud somebody.
661
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000
You took some money from somewhere,
662
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000
but where the fuck did you take the money from?
663
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,000
Nobody knows.
664
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000
I feel like people don't feel like it's wrong
665
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
'cause, like, most them people get their money back.
666
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000
You might just put people
667
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,000
in a fucked up predicament for a while
668
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000
because their bills might need to be paid
669
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
and you spent all their fucking money.
670
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000
But they eventually gonna get that money back.
671
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
Like, it's not right, but...
672
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000
we live in a world that's just unfair.
673
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
So they think it's an innocent crime,
674
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,000
there's no victim to it.
675
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
But low and behold, there -- there's victims.
676
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,000
The economic effects is the -- is the largest part of it,
677
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
easily, hands down. Look at credit cards.
678
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000
Look at the interest rate that credit cards charge
679
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000
for a credit card. Those are ridiculous.
680
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000
That all makes up for a lot of these losses.
681
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000
Any story that you want to go into,
682
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
they have to recoup their losses somehow,
683
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000
therefore their product that they sell goes up in price.
684
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000
Therefore, it costs all of us to do that.
685
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000
So it affects every single one of us.
686
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,000
Some of the financial institutions,
687
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000
they give that back.
688
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000
I mean, there's insurance for that kind of thing.
689
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000
But it messes up the person's credit.
690
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
I mean, there's individuals
691
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000
that it just literally has ruined their lives
692
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000
where they can't get a car, they can't get a house.
693
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000
They can't get -- They can't get finance
694
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
and they can't get credit. That's horrible.
695
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
That just destroys somebody's life.
696
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000
That's not innocent. That's not innocent.
697
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
They're not someone who's laying on the floor bleeding out.
698
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000
You're right, they're not.
699
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000
But they're still a victim to this.
700
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,000
And it's not just one person. We're all the victim to it.
701
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000
We're all a victim to the -- to the fraud.
702
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,000
It affects everybody.
703
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,000
It's a huge economical trickle-down effect.
704
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:05,000
♪♪
705
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Woman: What have you been doing the last couple of days?
706
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Teejay: Scamming. Making more money.
707
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Stacking more money day by day.
708
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000
How much have you made in the last few days, tell me?
709
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
$40,000. What?!
710
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Ever since I seen you, like $30,000, $40,000.
711
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
Right, then it's over? Yeah.
712
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
No, I'm young as hell. I-I...
713
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
There's no reason for me to be thinking like,
714
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000
"Just 10 more thousand, it's over."
715
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000
I need a couple -- couple more.
716
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000
No. Law enforcement ain't shit.
717
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Most I can go to jail --
718
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000
It's a white collar, like I was saying.
719
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,000
Like, it's white collar.
720
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000
Most I'll do is probably 5, 10 years.
721
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000
I'm not about to do no life.
722
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,000
5, 10 years is still a lot of your life.
723
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000
I know. I know. I know it's a lot of life,
724
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
but I know what I'm doing, as well.
725
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Law enforcement is not watching me.
726
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
I'm not that important.
727
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000
It's people who's crazy, like, off of...
728
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000
let's say, like, drugs and shit.
729
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000
You know what I mean? It's more shit --
730
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000
These people out here is murdering people.
731
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Like, you worried about a little scamming dude.
732
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000
Like, it's -- it's certain shit
733
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
that -- that they should be worried about.
734
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,000
And I'm not one of them.
735
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000
Jones: Yeah, that's the attitude they have.
736
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
"I'm not gonna get charged with a lot.
737
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000
I'm not doing any time in the box.
738
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,000
If I do, it's gonna be a little time in the box."
739
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,000
It comes from the local and the state level
740
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,000
of being charged.
741
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,000
People want to see these people
742
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
that are doing these violent crimes
743
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,000
locked up and behind bars.
744
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,000
And then you have somebody who's doing a,
745
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,000
if you want to say, a non-violent crime,
746
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,000
they're gonna put more of their effort
747
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000
into the ones doing the violent crime.
748
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000
But we could come in and step in
749
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000
and maybe charge them federally.
750
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
They get hit harsh with their sentences --
751
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000
harsh with their sentences.
752
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000
Um, 15, 20 -- 20 years with them.
753
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,000
And there were actual individuals
754
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000
that we're crying in the courtroom
755
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000
when they found out what they were getting hit with.
756
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,000
A lot of those cases led to proffers
757
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000
and cooperations that we've had.
758
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,000
When they're looking at so much time
759
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000
and then that just snowballs and snowballs and --
760
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000
to catching other individuals doing it.
761
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
We are watching. We're watching what goes on.
762
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
And if they think that we're not watching,
763
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000
somebody else is watching. You know?
764
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,000
And when somebody else's -- jealousy's another one.
765
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
When they see somebody else bringing in all that cash and,
766
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
"I don't want them to have all that,"
767
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000
they might flip on them. So, yeah.
768
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,000
We're -- We're watching somewhere along the line.
769
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
Davis: Teejay was at the top of everyone's research report.
770
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
It's my job to figure out, you know,
771
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000
how do I get this deal done
772
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
because the competition is fierce.
773
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,000
At the time, he hadn't had a lot of shows,
774
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000
but I was waiting for, like, his first show
775
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
just to see how the fans would react
776
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000
and how many kids would show up and that sort of thing, so...
777
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Propane: We got a show August 10, 2019.
778
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,000
LA at the beginning of August.
779
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000
It's like the end of summer, it's a vibe.
780
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,000
You got to think of what the weather is,
781
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000
what the vibe is like in LA.
782
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000
Like, LA in August is like the wave.
783
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000
So I'm like, "This show's about to be the shit."
784
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,000
[ People chanting, "Hey!"]
785
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000
♪ The government tried to ban me from the dark web ♪
786
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
♪ I downloaded Tor Browser then got back in ♪
787
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000
♪ Went and got a VPN, just bought another BIN ♪
788
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000
♪ I'm-a keep searching these bitches on my site ♪
789
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000
Man: What's going on?
790
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000
[ Music fades, indistinct speaking ]
791
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Hold on! Wait, hold on.
792
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
What the fuck is going on? Like, what's -- what's going on?
793
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000
[ Crowd boos ]
794
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Oh, shit. Hold on, bro!
795
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000
What's going on?
796
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000
[ Indistinct shouting ]
797
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Hold on, bro!
798
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
-Fuck twelve! -Fuck twelve!
799
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000
[ Indistinct shouting continues ]
800
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000
-Are you serious? -That shit crazy.
801
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Back up! Back up!
802
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
-Are you serious? -Oh, dude.
803
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Man #2: In the middle of a fucking show, bro.
804
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Man #3: Hey, free Teejay!
805
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
-Free Teejay! -Free Teejay!
806
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
Free Teejay, man.
807
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000
-Fuck twelve! -Wooow!
808
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000
[ Indistinct shouting ]
809
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Man: In the middle of his performance? What the...
810
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,000
♪♪
811
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Man #2: They just rushed in there.
812
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000
That was like an actual Marshal, bro.
813
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Man #3: Did you see their car and shit?
814
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000
What was it like? Like a fucking real ass cop car?
815
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
-They almost ran me over, bro. -It was a undercover.
816
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
It was an undercover? Yeah.
817
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
They rode away in an undercover, bro.
818
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Like they rode away in an undercover.
819
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000
They just came and took my... Hey, free Teejay!
820
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Man: Free Teejay. Send them up.
821
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,000
I saw a video of Teejay getting arrested
822
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,000
and I was like, "Yo, was he arrested?"
823
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000
People love seeing people get shot.
824
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,000
People's records sell when they get killed.
825
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000
And people's records sell when they go to jail.
826
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,000
Back up!
827
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,000
In order for us to shake the industry up,
828
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000
we create the jail situation without him going to jail.
829
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
None of that is true.
830
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Nothing is true.
831
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000
♪♪
832
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
So I get online and I find this dude
833
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,000
that does, like, the casting.
834
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000
He ends up sending some police officers.
835
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Don't worry about it, dog. We paid the police off.
836
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
So we hiring the police officers
837
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
to come and do this shit.
838
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Let's go, move!
839
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Man: Free Teejay!
840
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Just seeing everybody natural react,
841
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000
it was best we didn't tell everybody.
842
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
For the crowd, that was the reaction
843
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000
that I knew would happen for the crowd.
844
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000
Man #2: Poody, call the lawyer! Free Teejay!
845
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
A fan in the audience is sitting here filming this shit.
846
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000
These people are gonna be looking
847
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000
and that's the shit that goes up on the jumper.
848
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
-Free Teejay! -Free Teejay!
849
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,000
-Free Teejay! -Woooow!
850
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000
Propane: And it went viral.
851
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
[ Text tone plays ]
852
00:35:49,000 --> 00:36:02,000
♪♪
853
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000
[ Laughing ]
854
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,000
♪♪
855
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
[ Text tone plays ]
856
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,000
For the next couple days,
857
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000
we just played it like he was in jail.
858
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,000
[ Text tone plays ]
859
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000
A couple rappers had called me and was like,
860
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,000
"Oh, yeah, this kid is dope, man.
861
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000
What's up with him? Is he really locked up?"
862
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,000
I'm like, "Man, no, he ain't locked up.
863
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Look, FaceTime him."
864
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,000
"Man, I need a verse right now.
865
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Send me a verse. Let me get a verse."
866
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
I'm like, "Shit, how much you got?"
867
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000
[ Laughs ]
868
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000
So you just paid us.
869
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000
[ Laughs ]
870
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Once it was like, "Alright, cool, now he's out of jail,
871
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,000
like, man, we gonna do it again."
872
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Tell your fans, like,
873
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000
"I know I just went to jail for this shit.
874
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000
I don't give a fuck. I'm still doing this shit."
875
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
I don't give a fuck. I just got out today.
876
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000
I'm back on my grind.
877
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Thought the cops was gonna stop me?
878
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Get the fuck out of here. I'm back on it.
879
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000
And then when we get to the bank
880
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,000
I'm-a get the money from the teller.
881
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000
I want you to walk up the teller and actually receive the money
882
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000
and walk out of the bank.
883
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Yo, this shit ain't no game.
884
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
And we just used his Instagram
885
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000
just to troll the shit out of his fans.
886
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000
[ Laughs ] I hate to say that.
887
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Was that fake, or was -- you know.
888
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000
Did he -- did I get scammed there?
889
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,000
What -- What was that?
890
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000
Labels, was in my e-mail like -- like a magnet.
891
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Like, every single label in the world was in my e-mail.
892
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,000
♪♪
893
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,000
We started taking label meetings.
894
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Then there was the press.
895
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:32,000
♪♪
896
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
There was a "New York Times" article,
897
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,000
"Complex," it was everywhere.
898
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Every label had offers on the table.
899
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
There was a bidding war.
900
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000
It just kept going up.
901
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000
I was definitely losing sleep at night.
902
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,000
We're gonna lose this deal.
903
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,000
It was just funny as hell. [ Laughs ]
904
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Then we had a call from Success
905
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000
and he was like, "Is Teejay locked up?
906
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Is he gonna make the meeting?"
907
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Yeah, "Was he arrested?"
908
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000
So when I reached out to the team,
909
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Propane, he was like, "No, we good now."
910
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,000
"Yeah, don't worry about that. He's gonna make the meeting.
911
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000
We'll -- We'll figure it out."
912
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Davis: I eventually flew him into New York
913
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000
and met with him with his team.
914
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000
And I not-- first thing I noticed
915
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
he came in with a ski mask.
916
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
I was confused. Like, "What happened here?"
917
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,000
Why was he getting arrested? Is this to be continued?
918
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,000
And we kind of got to the meeting
919
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
and we kind of filled him in on what was going on.
920
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Was like, "Yeah, that was a big ass troll."
921
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,000
And I was like, "Wait a minute. What?"
922
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000
[ Laughs ]
923
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,000
[ Laughs ]
924
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,000
[ Laughs lightly ]
925
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
[ Laughs ] And they're like,
926
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,000
"What the fuck y'all got going on?"
927
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,000
I feel like I was hoodwinked and bamboozled.
928
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
But he's the godfather of scam.
929
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000
The fact that he put it together
930
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000
to the point where every label was trying to sign it,
931
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
that was genius.
932
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,000
This kid really has his whole plan thought out
933
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,000
from start to finish
934
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000
and that's what brought him to the top.
935
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
And I just happened to be the guy that met him at the top
936
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000
and signed him.
937
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,000
I do feel like Teejay sort of scammed his way to the top.
938
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000
I feel like people like myself fell right into it.
939
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,000
I get it [Laughs], you know?
940
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,000
But I was like, "Okay, I won't be finessed again."
941
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
[ Text tone plays ]
942
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Teejay: I be telling people I signed for 50 million,
943
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000
but I was lying.
944
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,000
[ Laughs ] Ten million.
945
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Woman: Yeah, but really real. For real, for real.
946
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000
Ten million.
947
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,000
I only got eight million of that.
948
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000
I had to pay taxes.
949
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Because I don't want the IRS on my damn ass, that's why.
950
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,000
I don't want them at my front door
951
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,000
kicking my shit down.
952
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000
[ Sighs ] He doesn't do fraud anymore.
953
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000
He done tell me -- he tells me he doesn't do fraud anymore,
954
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,000
so, I mean...
955
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000
But he'll give you, uh, some literature
956
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,000
that could possibly tell you how to do fraud.
957
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000
But is that illegal?
958
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,000
I don't know.
959
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000
I know that since he's been signed,
960
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
it's been more narrating the art and the culture of scamming.
961
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Is he still out committing scams?
962
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
I don't know.
963
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,000
♪♪
964
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Like, I actually stopped for a period of time.
965
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
But I can't stop, to be honest.
966
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
It's just free money just waiting.
967
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
If I was to stop, it was just shows and shit
968
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
and every -- all that got closed down
969
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000
'cause of the coronavirus,
970
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000
so it was just -- I was missing out on free money.
971
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:42,000
♪♪
972
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000
They can't outsmart us. It's just a matter of time.
973
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
The greed catches up to them and they can't stop doing it.
974
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
We're watching. We're watching them.
975
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000
The universe is gonna unfold
976
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000
and they eventually, eventually will get caught.
977
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,000
For me as a manager,
978
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
it's kind of scary because it's like,
979
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000
I ain't gonna lie, I can see it happening.
980
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000
There's more than enough songs
981
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
in the event that he was ever to get arrested,
982
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000
we'd probably have albums worth of stuff.
983
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,000
But that's never been a concern of mine or anybody at the label.
984
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Teejay: I think life already planned, to be honest.
985
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,000
But I wouldn't even be where I'm at right now without music.
986
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
The reason I started scamming is because I was broke.
987
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
I didn't have nothing.
988
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000
But now I got millions.
989
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000
My dad, I just bought him a house.
990
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000
It's the greatest thing ever.
991
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:40,000
♪♪
992
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
I don't have a record deal.
993
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000
That other person has a record deal.
994
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Scamming.
995
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,000
And I scammed the record label. Want to know how?
996
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,000
I put a fake signature on the -- on the -- on the contract.
997
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
That's not my real name on the contract.
998
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,000
So I ain't got to listen to that label one time in my life.
999
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000
End of story [Laughing] is that.
1000
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:26,000
♪♪
1001
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:36,000
♪♪
1002
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:46,000
♪♪
1003
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:56,000
♪♪
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