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WILL R.: Syed is extremely smart.
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This guy's a smart dude.
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A lot of people saw him as, like, the math wiz.
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Not many people that are 21 years old are,
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you know, have their own hedge fund.
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WILL R.: I think that was the beginning of the campus legend.
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But he's a class-A manipulator.
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Former UGA student is charged in a Ponzi scheme.
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Ran the enterprise out of a fraternity house.
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This Ponzi scheme is a bit different than the other ones.
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The alleged mastermind targeted fellow students.
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ARBAB: Did I want to be a millionaire when I grew up?
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I wanted to be a billionaire when I grew up.
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[ Police sirens wail ]
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[ Piano playing ]
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ARBAB: When I get lost in a song, it's a stress relief
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because you don't really have to focus on anything else
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but that song just in that moment, you know?
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The way I see piano, you know, I feel like it's math.
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I like math.
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I see all the keys and chords as numbers.
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Number memorization in general, you know,
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it runs in my family, I'd say.
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I was born and raised as a Muslim.
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I didn't drink growing up.
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Parents were always strict.
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Told to focus on our education.
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Islam is definitely a very important part of our lives.
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We always wanted to be a good influence to our community.
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So obviously as Muslims we had a lot of pride.
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ARBAB: My mother, she has her masters in economics.
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My father, he's an MD PhD.
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He is definitely someone I consider
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a role model in my life,
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who I want to be when I grow up.
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MAN: When you grow up?
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When I grow up. I mean, I am a grown man now,
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you know [Laughs] so.
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My name is Syed.
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MUSHFIQUR: I've always looked up to Syed.
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Syed's actually one of the smartest people I know.
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At one point, he did hold the record
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for memorizing the most numbers in pi.
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[ Clears throat ] 3.14159265358979323...
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ARBAB: Whoever can memorize the most digits of pi got a pie,
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and obviously my fat self wanted a pie.
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...1058209...
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ARBAB: So I ended up clearing, like, 360 digits.
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Is that enough?
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I liked pie. I love pie.
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My favorite is banana cream, but that's another subject.
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[ Chuckles ]
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When I was a child, I used to be, like, really fat.
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I weighed, like, 190 in the 7th grade, I was 5'5".
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He was a little pudgy, yeah. [ Laughs ]
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When puberty hit, the interest of girls came into play.
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That's when I was like, "Wow. I'm really fat.
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I need to lose weight." People were like,
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"Oh," I mean, "Here's these types of diets
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you can do." I was like, "No,
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I'm just gonna do it my way,
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because I want to lose this much weight
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in this timespan."
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[ Drink fizzes, can pops ]
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I would only drink three energy drinks a day...
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...and running, like, two miles
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and just not eating anything.
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[ Drink fizzes, can pops ] [ Heart races ]
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When I was 11, on Mother's Day,
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I was playing basketball outside, you know,
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I hadn't eaten a thing. [ Can pops ]
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I went up for a layup.
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I got shoved and just put on the ground.
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I started going lightheaded.
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I couldn't even see, and I started going inside
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and try and get my mom for help,
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and I fell to the ground.
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I wake up in the ER.
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I had a heart attack.
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It's actually when I developed a heart condition, as well,
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just because of the diet and regimen that I was following.
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It obviously wasn't the healthiest way
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to go about it, but it happened.
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I made it happen.
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So, going into high school,
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I lost weight, felt really awesome.
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But then felt as though I needed to stand out.
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One of the reasons why, obviously the girls.
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What I found was humor is one of the main interactions
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that attract people.
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Does it look like I'm sweating?
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Aw, shit.
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So, when I met Syed when we were freshmen,
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he's very much a goofball.
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He was always very dramatic on social media.
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[ Cellphone notification rings ] I always thought he was funny.
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I think that he really, like, tried to be in
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Whenever we would go out, people would be like, "Oh, Syed,"
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and would come up or say, "Oh, you're Syed from Twitter."
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We were both in AP French together
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and ended up going on a France trip.
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So that's how we really became close.
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MAN: Now, did you and Syed ever date?
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No [Laughs] we never dated,
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but everyone always thought we were dating.
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He was one of my best friends.
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He would try and talk to me about stuff,
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and it just went right over my head,
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because it was [Laughs] like, too complicated.
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But he's so smart.
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One day, I started seeing, like,
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these girls wear lululemon leggings.
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You know, it was like a new thing.
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I was like, "Damn, they look nice."
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So I tell my dad, I was like,
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"Hey, there's this really cool company
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you should focus on, it's called lululemon."
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I think they're gonna do really well.
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He invests a little bit and then next thing you know...
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...he makes 40% off that.
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That was, I would say, my first stock pick.
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It was pretty awesome.
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in terms of finance and analytics.
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After I graduated high school, I got a scholarship,
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which was like essentially a full ride
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to the University of Georgia,
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and that's why I wasn't at Harvard. [ Laughs ]
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I got to Georgia, you know, the sun's beaming,
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blue skies, pretty campus, pretty women.
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The UGA is known as the second biggest party school
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in the United States, which is pretty hilarious
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because my father did not want me to go to a party school,
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but I digress.
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The University of Georgia and the South overall
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was a whole new world for me.
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I had no friends there. I felt kind of out of place,
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because I didn't drink.
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One day, I saw these dudes wearing New Balances
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and, like, a Southern Polo.
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I was like, "Wow, these dudes look like dads."
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The funniest part was, like, they had the hottest girls
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walking along with them.
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what the girls like here."
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I kind of gave it, like, a semester to try
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to see if I could make my own friends
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and stuff like that,
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but the fact that there were 80 bars,
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you can't really do anything without drinking.
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So growing up as a Muslim, I didn't drink,
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but I just broke down and just said, "Fuck it."
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I actually met him at a bar called Bourbon Street.
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Syed liked to have a good time.
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Three words I would use to describe Syed would be --
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intelligent, ambitious, and fun.
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I first met him in organic chemistry.
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I just remember thinking just like,
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"Wow. This guy really knows his shit."
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just like from the first day basis.
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Sorry. I mess with a hair. [ Laughs ]
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Syed was the first Muslim person
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I had ever met in my life, which I thought was really cool.
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He took me to the gym a couple times and taught me ways
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he learned to workout with his heart condition.
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He was telling me about how he wanted to go to medical school,
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and I think he was more so wanting to follow
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in his dad's footsteps at the time.
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"Wow this guy really has it together."
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There's never been a romance between the two of us,
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but we always used to say that if we weren't married by 30
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then we'd just get over it [Laughs] and marry each other.
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ARBAB: I had a pretty good friend group,
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but the networking group is pretty small.
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because if you know someone in a fraternity,
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then you know their entire fraternity, sorority,
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and whatnot.
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Greek life is the centerpiece of UGA.
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It's what everything revolves around.
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WILL R.: Georgia very much has, like, an Old South vibe
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where it's, like, you know, very, like, tradition.
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that are a bit more, you know, Southern,
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and I guess with that, it's, like, a lot more, like, white.
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It's kind of just like an SEC thing.
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There's, like, racial vibe.
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This is an unfortunate fact of SEC schools for the most part.
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If your name is Syed Arbab
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or if your name is not a John Smith,
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you're gonna have a harder time getting into a fraternity.
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People like Syed, they join Greek life to network.
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I mean, like, obviously you're gonna meet people anywhere.
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I don't know, I think it's mainly just to talk to girls
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and, like, just drink a fuck ton of beer,
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and like do coke every now and then,
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which is why it's surprising why Syed joined,
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'cause, like, you know, I guess it just feels like
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more, like, a white thing.
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and I ended up getting a bid at Phi Kappa Tau.
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I joined Greek life my second semester when I was at UGA.
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Joining the fraternity as the only Muslim kid --
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composed of mainly Caucasians
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and people living in the South for a while --
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it was pretty hard... [ Cellphone notification rings ]
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...but I was able to fit in.
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[ Cellphone notification rings ] I knew that he was
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in a fraternity, and he seemed to kind of live,
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like, a frat boy-type lifestyle.
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I saw him advertise it on Twitter.
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[ Laughs ] Fucking...
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Syed started at the door, just doing the door guy stuff,
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and he did have such a good work ethic.
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WILL S.: While he would have all this fun, at the same time,
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you see him during the day, and he's there studying,
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learning, researching the market,
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and I have a lot of respect for that.
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ARBAB: After I joined the fraternity, you know,
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I tell these brothers that I'm interested in finance
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and, like, watching the market.
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"Wolf of Wall Street" came out so there was this huge ambition
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of wanting to go into Wall Street
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just because you saw this luxurious life
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that Jordan Belfort led on.
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The real Jordan Belfort, he made himself rich
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because of his drive and motivation.
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I made a GroupMe called The Wolves of Broad Street
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based off the movie and Broad Street was
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where our fraternity house was.
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WILL G.: The GroupMe was not a place to make deals.
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It was really just like a chatroom
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and for Syed to show off what he could do.
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[ Cellphone keyboard clacks ]
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He would always be in the group chat
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calling out plays, and they would end up being great plays.
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WILL R.: Syed was, like, into options trading,
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and that's, like, high-risk.
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Every now and then he'd, like, have a good move,
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and he'd, like, screenshot it.
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And everyone would be like, "Damn. This guy knows his shit."
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The GroupMe avatar was a picture of him
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with sunglasses on and a hat,
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and $100 bills stuck all around the bill of the hat.
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ARBAB: It was just the fact that money would be able
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to give me the power to create my own destiny.
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At this point, I'd been working nonstop at the bar.
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I have around $5,000.
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[ Cash register dings ]
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I put it all in the market.
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By his sophomore year, Wolves of Broad Street,
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the GroupMe, really got his name out there.
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WILL R.: He started getting this reputation,
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and I think he was just enjoying it.
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KATIE: I think that's when Syed kind of looked at things
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and said, "Let me take this to the next step."
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Oil and gold, two stocks that will --
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or two commodities that will move particularly
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as interest rates move as well.
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Just about everybody and their brother
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is expecting interest rates will rise.
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ARBAB: It was anticipated that Janet Yellen
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was going to be increasing interest rates by 0.25%
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during this federal interest rate meeting.
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I expected gold to essentially do very well
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right after that meeting.
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So I put in $30,000 on an option that expired that same week.
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I mean, I never gambled before, obviously.
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Well, I mean, if you want to call options trading gambling,
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sure, whatever, but. [ Laughs ]
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I don't think I'm the best [Laughs] guy to define it.
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[ Laughs ] I don't want to get it wrong.
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What does laymen's terms mean?
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Okay. So, options trading is essentially betting
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on the future value of something.
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You're buying a contract to have the right to buy or sell
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that stock at a future date for a set price.
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It's definitely risky. It's high-risk, high-return.
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MUSHFIQUR: He was like, "Okay. You know what? I'm going to risk
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all of this 30K that I've worked for.
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At the end of this trade, I'm either going to be filthy rich,
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or I'm gonna be a poor man."
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That much money on the line.
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It's absolutely insane.
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ARBAB: We're gonna broadcasting the fed meeting
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at the fraternity house at 2:00 PM.
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Some of the kids actually skipped class.
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We had our monitors around the TV room,
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and then we had the big TV with the meeting on.
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At 2:00 P.M. on the dot...
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[ Clock ticks ]
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...we're watching all the screens.
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I seriously almost threw up...
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Good Afternoon.
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...because I knew that he had put all of his money
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on this one single thing.
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And it's like literally just burning your money,
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it's setting it on fire.
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ARBAB: This was a big event. It was like watching, like,
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Conor McGregor fight, you know, Floyd Mayweather,
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you know, it was just something big.
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Today the Federal Open Market Committee
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decided to raise the target range for the federal funds rate
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by 1/4 percentage point,
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bringing it to 3/4 to 1%. [ Cheering ]
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Gold just takes off.
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♪♪
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I came out with $112,000.
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[ Cheering ]
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I mean... [ Laughs ]
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[ Laughs ] It's just like, "What?"
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Screenshots of his account being, like, over a $100k.
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I remember him going downtown, hitting the bars with the boys,
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and really celebrating. [ Cellphone notification rings ]
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ARBAB: I got a tab for all the boys that came out to the meeting.
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It was a good Wednesday night in Athens.
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Yeah. I think that was the beginning
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of the campus legend.
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WILL G.: That reputation did start spreading around,
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and more and more people started joining the GroupMe.
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The Wolves of Broad Street at this point has already grown
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to about 1,200.
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Everyone was like, "Oh, my God," you know?
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I was just getting congrats DMs
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from, like, random people I don't even know.
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Even a guy that I had dated who went to Georgia Tech
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was in this GroupMe.
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"Yo, I heard your name from, like, my buddy so-and-so.
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He's, like, in your group.
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Can you possibly tell me, like, how to trade and whatnot?
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Like, I want to make money"
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"Can I give you 500 bucks and you trade it for a week or two
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and you can get it back to me?"
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ARBAB: People were throwing $500 to $1,000 at me, you know,
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and I was making the returns.
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It stopped being, "Hey. Let me give you $500,"
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to, "Hey. Let me give you $10,000 to invest for me."
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ARBAB: That was the first time I started realize
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that I could make money managing other people's money.
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He was just like, "I'm just gonna start my own hedge fund
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out of my fraternity." [ Laughs ]
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It was called Artis Proficio Capital Investments.
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In Latin it means, like, artistic profits.
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I hit Syed up, because I was just gonna turn 18.
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I was like, "Hey. I have all this money on me.
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What should I do with it?" He was like,
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"Well, I have a hedge fund.
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It's called Artis Proficio."
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This college kid doing a double-major.
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He's working odd jobs, and he runs a hedge fund?
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Like, at this point I didn't even know what a hedge fund was
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to be honest, you know.
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I always heard the word, you know,
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but I always thought, like, in my head,
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"Green hedges and a fund," you know?
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It just didn't really make sense.
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I was like, "What the hell is that?"
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But anyway, I googled, "hedge fund contracts."
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I actually ripped from online --
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I mean, I'm not a lawyer.
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The pitch would start off as, like,
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"We were a smaller company," you know,
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"It's comprised of college students,
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raising money for college students."
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It was very easy to convince people
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that initially invested with us, because it's just like,
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"Yeah, I mean, for sure, dude,
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I mean, I've been following your trades
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for, like, the last three years."
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Syed had a guarantee of up to $15,000,
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he'd guarantee it out of his pocket.
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And so, I went ahead and to start off,
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I just had $3,000 in there.
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I put in a couple thousand.
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I put in about $1,500.
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I was looking at it as a college student saying,
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"Oh, my gosh. This could pay off my student debt."
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And I think lot of people saw his success,
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and a lot of people thought that way.
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Everybody wanted to invest with Syed.
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So, out of the gates, you know, so I put in all the money
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that I had for myself into the fund.
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And I was around $120,000 at this point.
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Other people had invested.
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It was around another $50,000.
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A few angel investors, as well, that came on
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and put in, like, around another $200,000.
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We were, like, 1/4 to 1/3 of $1 million when we came out.
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Yeah.
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So, I heard Syed was running his own hedge fund
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through the grapevine of a bunch of people
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that I went to high school with.
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They were like, "Yeah, like, it's great,"
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and, you know, they all kept referencing this spreadsheet
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which he had showed me.
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WILL S.: When you invested your money, he gave you an account number
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and so every week,
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he would send a spreadsheet... [ Cellphone notification rings ]
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...of all the different accounts,
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and you look at the line with your account number.
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My number was 64.
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♪♪
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I think I was, like, literally number 77.
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He was doing that so we could all see all these other people
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were making great returns, too.
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All of us are making good money.
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And it was going up a lot, very fast.
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ARBAB: People saw the spreadsheet,
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it definitely helped with the momentum.
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They just loved seeing that grow,
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and they're like, "Wow." [ Cellphone notification rings ]
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WILL R.: I don't remember [Laughs] ever seeing a dip.
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It was always like, "It was a good week.
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It's always a good week." [ Chuckles ]
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♪♪
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We cleared about 25% returns, you know.
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Nothing to joke about.
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I was pretty focused on social media
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just to broadcast.
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I'd amplify my social media
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based on, like, how my life was going.
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♪ We got everything that we wanted, man ♪
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♪ It was all a dream ♪
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♪ We turn nothing into something, yeah ♪
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♪ Honey for the ring ♪
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♪ Now we stuntin', yeah ♪
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Syed on social media, he was very flashy.
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His Instagram is something else.
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He's making money, he's partying.
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He's living the life.
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♪ It was all a dream ♪
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♪ We turn nothing into something, yeah ♪
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WILL S.: You know, he bought this Corvette.
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You know, he would drive the nice cars.
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He was going on trips.
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WILL S.: Pictures of him flying out to Vegas.
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[ Cellphone notification rings ] KATIE: Pictures of $100 bills.
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"Big gains today."
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WILL R.: "Fast lane, big money, coke,
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these girls that I fly out to Vegas,
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and I got a hedge fund."
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The brown boy's on the block.
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♪ ...over now ♪ ♪ Honey for the ring ♪
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♪ Now I'm stuntin', yeah ♪
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KATIE: It was the clothes, the watches.
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He would even text me and say, "I'm buying you an outfit today.
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Go pick something out."
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And I would say, "Like, no.
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I don't need that to be your friend."
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Clearly he was, like, going for this image.
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People were, like, buying it.
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"I'm like this G, who's making money."
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♪ Honey for the ring ♪
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And they see a college student, like, with a Corvette,
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like, with beautiful women,
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they're like, "Okay. So this guy actually makes money."
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It was a form of free advertisement, you know?
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You definitely have to show success to get success.
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♪ ...into something, yeah ♪
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He more so changed his persona into the typical frat boy.
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You couldn't really distinguish him from the others.
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♪♪
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Drugs made him efficient.
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It made him, instead of five steps ahead, ten steps ahead.
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[ Cellphone notification rings ]
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Cocaine was the key factor in his downfall.
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[ Cellphone notification rings ]
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ARIANNA: Why would you be posting this
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if you're starting a company
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trying to get investors in?
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It doesn't look responsible.
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He had a drug problem.
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KATIE: I would tell him I was concerned because of his heart condition.
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And he would say, "Oh no, don't worry about it. It's fine."
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It's just like any kind of upper, you know.
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It's just a short-term effect.
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It'll get you hype.
517
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You know, obviously he had, like, a fair amount of haters.
518
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I do remember Syed getting into a fight at a bar,
519
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and I believe it was because someone said
520
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something racially motivated towards him.
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♪♪
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ARBAB: So, one time when I was downtown,
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a kid was like, "Hey, sand nigger,
524
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what are you doing?"
525
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And he just kept going. I was drunk myself, you know.
526
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And after that I just got in a fight with him, you know.
527
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I punched him in the face.
528
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♪♪
529
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KATIE: Syed did post on Instagram
530
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a picture of him kind of surrounded by his friends.
531
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[ Men giggle ]
532
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Syed put on an act like he didn't care.
533
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I think that's kind of telling of how he did respond
534
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to those kinds of situations.
535
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He's got to make sure people know that he's funny...
536
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[ Cellphone notification rings ]
537
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...and that he's unbothered.
538
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He will try to make you believe
539
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he's got the best life in the world.
540
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I know that those things really hurt him deeply.
541
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ARBAB: I was pretty mad about that.
542
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It was definitely a similar feeling
543
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that I felt when I was a kid.
544
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You know, that's when I first immigrated to the United States.
545
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People were getting better treatment
546
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just because of their skin color and their ethnicity,
547
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you know? So.
548
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[ Johann S. Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D minor" plays ]
549
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As I was growing up,
550
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I saw that there were a lot of kids around me, you know,
551
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that were brown like me,
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that were kind of antisocial and awkward
553
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and didn't mix with anyone else but their own race groups.
554
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What I wanted to do is essentially break out of that,
555
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have more friends than just the stereotypical brown kid
556
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that's pretty good at math.
557
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[ Johann S. Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D minor" plays ]
558
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And when you experience racial prejudice,
559
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you never want to get used to it,
560
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because no one deserves racial prejudice.
561
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What it did for me was made me stand out.
562
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It drove me to be better than them,
563
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'cause if they want to insult me
564
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when I'm on a higher pedestal, then they just sound stupid.
565
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That's what made me be better.
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[ Playing continues ]
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[ Playing stops ]
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♪♪
569
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I told my dad a little bit about the hedge fund.
570
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[ Cellphone notification rings ] He told me to focus more
571
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on my medical career.
572
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[ Cellphone notification rings ] He hates finance,
573
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because he has the connotation that it's a shortcut way
574
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of making money, which it is.
575
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He considered it always as, like, my hobby.
576
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That's the extent of what he knew about it in 2018.
577
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[ Cellphone notification rings ]
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But any ways,
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summer going into the fall of 2018,
580
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that's when the market was at its peak.
581
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[ Cellphone notification rings ]
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♪♪
583
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Because whenever you see a bullish market,
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you see a lot more investors being enticed
585
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to make more capital so it's like an expansion effect.
586
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I had $700,000 at this point.
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KATIE: I really didn't believe him that he was having all the success
588
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that he said he was, and he would show me.
589
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I mean, he would show me the dollar amounts in the accounts,
590
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and he was doing well.
591
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He had the potential where if he's getting these returns,
592
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you could put hundreds of millions,
593
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you could put billions in a fund like that.
594
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Over a million dollars in the last year.
595
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We're making money hand over fist.
596
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♪♪
597
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It was unbelievable.
598
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♪♪
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Today, we start with a big lump of coal for investors
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and the US economy.
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WOMAN: This is no December to remember.
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It's been another ugly session for stocks.
603
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ARBAB: In December 2018, I started seeing the market fall.
604
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This is gonna be a negative year,
605
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and we're on track for the worst December since 1931.
606
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The total account value went down.
607
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It went down from $1 million to $600,000.
608
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♪♪
609
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The losses were immense.
610
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Who wants to hear that on Christmas,
611
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"You lost 40% of your portfolio that you invested with me.
612
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I'm sorry."
613
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It's like, I compare it very much to gambling,
614
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'cause, like, what he was doing, it was just, you know,
615
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just super risky plays.
616
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ARBAB: End of December, like, going into January,
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I lost 3/4 of a million.
618
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His tolerance to risk was just not there.
619
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He only looked at the upside, never the downside.
620
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Then, people started asking, like, "Where's the spreadsheet?"
621
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[ Cellphone keyboard clacks ] I kind of just sent
622
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a spreadsheet with just, like, the same numbers.
623
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[ Cellphone notification rings ]
624
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I had two options --
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I could have filed for bankruptcy,
626
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but these were my friends and family.
627
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They trusted me with their capital.
628
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I didn't want to explain these losses.
629
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I wanted to make these losses back.
630
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That's the decision I made.
631
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I kept quiet.
632
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I was telling investors that everything was fine
633
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when really it was not.
634
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That was definitely the first time I had told,
635
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like, the biggest lie.
636
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MOORE: We as a culture want things fast.
637
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That's why we have diet pills
638
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that are supposed to work in 30 days.
639
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The victims want to improve their circumstances.
640
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These schemers and fraudsters prey on that,
641
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and that's sort of how he began to culminate his scheme
642
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and grow his pool of victims.
643
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♪♪
644
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ARBAB: After I experienced these losses,
645
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there was so much immense pressure coming in.
646
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There was not enough money to circulate, you know?
647
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000
We needed to take higher risk to recoup the losses
648
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that we had experienced.
649
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000
We -- I, I, I.
650
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The entire time I was trying to raise money
651
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and then at this point, there was no organization whatsoever.
652
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,000
The only accounting that was done by the company was me.
653
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000
I initially invested 5 grand with him,
654
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000
I just wanted to see how he was able to play around with it
655
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before I was able to trust him.
656
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000
I told him, you know, "Don't fuck me over."
657
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He tried to ensure me that everything was gonna be okay.
658
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ARBAB: My mental state was not there,
659
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and my market state was not there either.
660
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I was trying to turn it around before anything was noticeable.
661
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WILL S.: At this point, we didn't know that he had lost
662
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that much of the money.
663
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He was trading it out of his personal account,
664
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to my knowledge, and that's what I wanted to help him with,
665
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because, you know, I was looking at this and,
666
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000
"Wow. You're doing great,
667
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but you don't know what you're doing."
668
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,000
When you're talking about building an organization
669
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and doing legal compliance, he was clueless.
670
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000
So I introduced him to Stephen Romanoff.
671
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How should I sit? Where do I put my hands?
672
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000
My name's Stephen Romanoff.
673
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I do have quite an extensive background in fund formations,
674
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specifically around hedge funds and venture capital funds.
675
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He felt like a genuine kid,
676
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
decently intelligent, decent trader,
677
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but some big backers.
678
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Opportunity.
679
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,000
Stephen is still under the impression
680
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,000
that we were close to 1 million AUM,
681
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
in assets under management.
682
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But I didn't show him the latest one.
683
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000
I showed him all the way up to, you know, November 30th,
684
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000
and the first week of December, and he was like,
685
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000
"All right. That makes sense to me."
686
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,000
I told him, like, "Hey. You got to redo this whole thing."
687
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,000
He was very organized
688
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000
in terms of the structure and what we needed.
689
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000
He listed out, like, you know, we needed a securities attorney,
690
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000
new paperwork, documentation, you know?
691
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000
I mean, the costs were immense.
692
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
It's always fun to hear someone doing something
693
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000
quote-unquote "big"
694
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and going and talking to them and letting them know
695
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
they have no idea what they're doing
696
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000
and just being a dick about it.
697
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So it's kind of fun to me. [ Laughs ]
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♪♪
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ARBAB: It was obscene.
700
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We got the most expensive lawyers.
701
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
We needed the most expensive prime brokerage accounts.
702
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000
So, I brought him some lawyers,
703
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
some really good securities lawyers here in the city,
704
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,000
and he paid the retainer after pulling teeth, it's $10,000.
705
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
It took forever. First red flag for me.
706
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
I needed to bring on more investors,
707
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000
and that's kind of why I brought him on board,
708
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,000
because that's the promise that he had made.
709
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Yeah, so this is the pitch deck that I came up with.
710
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
He had no idea how to make a deck.
711
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,000
I had to pull everything out of him.
712
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000
He didn't know what almost any of this was.
713
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Did you read the deck and proofread it?
714
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000
To be completely honest, no, I didn't.
715
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000
A pretty clear indication that it was amateur hour.
716
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Here, his strategy summary --
717
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"S-U-M-M-E-R-Y."
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People can think what they want to
719
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about the University of Georgia, but I can promise you
720
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they'll teach you how to spell summary.
721
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,000
He puts he has an MBA from the "terry collage of business"
722
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,000
and doesn't capitalize it.
723
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000
If we look at the front page of his flyer,
724
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it says he has one, but on the back page,
725
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000
he says he's working on it.
726
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WILL G.: I mean, it's a complete lie.
727
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He had everyone fooled
728
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that he was doing this masters program.
729
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,000
MOORE: It's the same old tale --
730
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,000
he cultivated those relationships,
731
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,000
and he sold them a bill of goods that never existed.
732
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000
And at this point I was just definitely scrambling for money.
733
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000
I was introduced to an investor.
734
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000
He was a Georgia alum.
735
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000
I advertised to him that he could make
736
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a lot of money within a few weeks' span.
737
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,000
So this investor had given me $100,000.
738
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I took the $100,000, and I put it into the market.
739
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♪♪
740
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,000
I lost it.
741
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000
It was just an entire mess.
742
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000
I mean, what am I gonna do?
743
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000
I had to pull it together.
744
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000
I had to try to get the gain back.
745
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000
I decided to go to Vegas.
746
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,000
[ Computer mouse clicks ]
747
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000
I had to take that risk.
748
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000
♪♪
749
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I decided to try to make money on roulette.
750
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ROMANOFF: I had heard he was going to Vegas,
751
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
and I think this was right after
752
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000
I had invested, and I was like,
753
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000
"Well, I'm going to go to make sure
754
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000
that he doesn't waste my money."
755
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,000
I just didn't trust him.
756
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
ARBAB: At that point I just kept on, like, a positive face,
757
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
telling investors that everything was fine
758
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000
through social media.
759
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:24,000
♪♪
760
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
I was under so much time pressure,
761
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000
losing even more money, bleeding, and hemorrhaging.
762
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000
♪♪
763
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
I don't even -- he could have been gambling
764
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000
with the hedge fund money.
765
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
I don't think he was.
766
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Could've? I don't know.
767
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
♪♪
768
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000
So I wire him $5,000, and, you know, I'm expecting him
769
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to make some investment in the fund.
770
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
I get a call from Stephen, and he tells me,
771
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000
"Hey. I don't know why you did that.
772
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000
Syed had actually used all that money to gamble with."
773
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
♪♪
774
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000
He lost Will's $5,000.
775
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
He lost all of my money plus a bunch of his own.
776
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000
♪♪
777
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
ARBAB: The walls were closing in on me.
778
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
My life just spiraled out of control.
779
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
It was definitely just failure
780
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000
that I've never been exposed to before.
781
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000
It seemed pretty unrecoverable.
782
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,000
[ Cellphone vibrates ] I was getting maybe, like,
783
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000
300 texts a day.
784
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,000
We were hemorrhaging a lot more money in the markets.
785
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000
[ Cellphone keyboard clacks ]
786
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
This investor that had given me $100,000, you know,
787
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
I was scrambling to get that capital back to him
788
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000
as soon as possible.
789
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000
I needed another way.
790
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
I started dealing cocaine.
791
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
I buy an ounce of cocaine.
792
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000
I bag it up in bags.
793
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
I put them in my pockets, you know, right here.
794
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,000
You know, I'd have, like, baggy, like, sweatpants
795
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000
or something.
796
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
At the bar, people would just high five me with cash,
797
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000
and I'd give them the cocaine.
798
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000
And I'd just have, like, a stack in my fucking pocket.
799
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000
It was absurd.
800
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000
I mean, there was a lot of rumors going around
801
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000
that he was, like, the biggest drug dealer in UGA.
802
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000
I heard that it was, like, kind of, like, cut with, like,
803
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000
some baking soda.
804
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,000
ARBAB: But it wasn't enough.
805
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000
So, I knew a dealer.
806
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000
It was through my friend
807
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000
who was already connected with, like, the dark web.
808
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Walk inside, it smells like acetone.
809
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000
There was a bunch of cocaine everywhere,
810
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000
and just, like, money everywhere, as well.
811
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,000
I bought the kilo of cocaine for $22,000,
812
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000
and I sold it for $45,000.
813
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000
Pocketed $20,000 and just put it all in the market.
814
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000
♪♪
815
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000
The deadline came to pay back the $100,000,
816
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,000
and I didn't even have half of it.
817
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,000
He seemed stressed, and he always seemed like
818
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000
he was watching his back.
819
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000
He had gotten paranoid.
820
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,000
ARBAB: I was scared.
821
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,000
My anxiety started to build up like crazy.
822
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
I got a gun just for safety purposes.
823
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000
I felt like everyone was, like, against me
824
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
in some way or another.
825
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000
I had no grasp on, like, reality
826
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
and what was going on, you know.
827
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
It was really hard to watch him change like that,
828
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
'cause he was really a great guy.
829
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,000
And I saw him just get consumed by a lot of demons.
830
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
There was a point of no return.
831
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
I mean, at this point it was just, like, scrambling to get
832
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
any type of dollar amount that I could,
833
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
but it wasn't enough.
834
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000
I needed money so I was asking every single investor,
835
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000
"Hey," like, "There's a decent opportunity
836
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000
in the market right now, like,
837
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000
would you want to put in more money?"
838
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000
It takes a particularly devious person, I think,
839
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
to be a thief like this when you take somebody's money,
840
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000
and you don't invest it, using it to take trips,
841
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
and you know you're doing the wrong thing.
842
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
I mean, this isn't just a naive kid.
843
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,000
He approached it as if he could outsmart the people
844
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000
that he had invested with him.
845
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,000
He had actually asked my dad for [Laughs] $250,000.
846
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000
It kind of offended me, because we were really close,
847
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000
and he was really close with my family,
848
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,000
but, like, we live in a normal, like, middle-class area,
849
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000
suburban town.
850
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000
My dad was kind of like, "What the hell?
851
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Where does this kid think I have $250,000
852
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000
to just give to him?"
853
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000
You know, after Vegas, I pretty much started finding
854
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,000
some fishy stuff.
855
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000
You know, started monitoring some accounts more.
856
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
So I was gonna send Syed $2,500,
857
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000
and I had reached my limit on Zelle that day.
858
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,000
And so he told me to Venmo $2,500 to an individual
859
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,000
he said was the FinTech manager and label the transaction
860
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,000
"Artis Proficio capital investment."
861
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000
A couple of weeks later, I received a comment
862
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
and the FinTech manager said,
863
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000
"Hey, do you have any money to send
864
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000
on behalf of Syed today?"
865
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
In the account I would see Venmos,
866
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Cashapps, Zelles, come in to the tune of $1,500,
867
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000
$2,000, $3,000 from certain people,
868
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000
and it would leave as soon as it came,
869
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,000
and it would go right to this one larger investor.
870
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
Never left the account,
871
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,000
never went to a brokerage, nothing.
872
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000
And at that point I had asked Syed,
873
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000
"What is your FinTech manager talking about here?"
874
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000
And he goes, "Oh. LOL he's just fucking with you.
875
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000
He likes to joke around."
876
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,000
He started having people send it directly
877
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000
to this larger investor under the guise
878
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,000
of him being the "FinTech,"
879
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000
you know, and that's not even the right terminology.
880
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000
Just lying.
881
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,000
I was like, "Well, that's really fishy."
882
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Like, "Why would someone just mess around about that?"
883
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000
[ Cellphone vibrates ]
884
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000
I got a phone call from the FinTech manager,
885
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,000
and I came to the conclusion that this FinTech manager
886
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,000
was actually an investor who was owed over $100,000.
887
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,000
My money that I'd sent him
888
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,000
was to satisfy debt that Syed owed him.
889
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
He was taking that money
890
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,000
and paying back other investors with it,
891
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,000
textbook definition of a Ponzi scheme.
892
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,000
And that was pretty much when I sent an e-mail to the lawyers,
893
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000
and I told them, "Remove me from all the documents,
894
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000
and I didn't want to be involved with it. Best of luck."
895
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,000
So, yeah.
896
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000
It really is an investment scheme
897
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,000
where the head of the Ponzi scheme uses money
898
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000
from a second investor to pay the first investor.
899
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,000
You've now got two disgruntled investors
900
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,000
who've been put together.
901
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000
And that's where the dominoes start to fall.
902
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000
So me and the other investor go
903
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
to the Securities and Exchange Commission.
904
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,000
And this was kind of a hard decision at first for me,
905
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,000
because Syed was my friend.
906
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Maybe this was some big misunderstanding.
907
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000
But eventually, I decided that this was
908
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000
what would be best for me, and this is what's gonna be best
909
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000
for all the investors who've gotten scammed,
910
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,000
and I decided to go through with it.
911
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000
MAN: Syed Arbab from the website of Artis Proficio Capital.
912
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000
That's the name of the hedge fund
913
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000
SEC Regional Director Richard Best says was a fake.
914
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,000
And then the more we looked into it,
915
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000
the more we saw that he was engaging
916
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000
in a Ponzi scheme.
917
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
I was like, "What the fuck?"
918
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,000
It was big news.
919
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
I mean, all of the major newspapers --
920
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
"The UGA Ponzi scheme."
921
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000
This article posted saying, "Ponzi scheme."
922
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,000
I'm like, "All right. This can't be good."
923
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000
And after all of this, they say he only had about $350
924
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000
left in his account after spending the rest.
925
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:23,000
♪♪
926
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,000
MUSHFIQUR: What the hell?
927
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000
What just happened?
928
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,000
When Syed found out that I was affiliated
929
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000
with going to the SEC, he goes,
930
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000
"How could you do this to me, man?"
931
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,000
[ Cellphone notification rings ] "I've known you
932
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000
since we were 14. You're screwing me over,"
933
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000
like, "My life is ruined."
934
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
I said to him, "If you did nothing wrong,
935
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
and you were actually investing our money,
936
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000
then you have nothing to worry about."
937
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
He made it seem like he was a victim
938
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,000
and that I had put him in this terrible situation.
939
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000
He was going off on like, "I hope you're happy.
940
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,000
I'm never gonna be able to get a job.
941
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
I spent all this money on school for nothing.
942
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000
I'm not gonna go to med school.
943
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,000
I'm gonna go to prison."
944
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000
I couldn't believe that someone, you know, so crazy,
945
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
in such a situation could actually think the way
946
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000
he thought at the time.
947
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
It's unbelievable.
948
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000
The day of the SEC statement, my buddy, Will Rittmeyer,
949
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
we were grilling out at the pool, and he was like,
950
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
"Hey, man, like, we got to do a rap together."
951
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,000
I have, like, a little mic set up in, like, my apartment.
952
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000
It's a pretty good mic.
953
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000
It's the same mic that The Weeknd uses
954
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
so it's, like, quality shit.
955
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000
And so I was like, "Dude, I can't think
956
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,000
of what to rap about." He was like,
957
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
"Well, rap about anything.
958
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Rap about what just happened today."
959
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000
Like, "Oh, Syed!" [ Laughs ]
960
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000
[ Rapping ] ♪ Want my fucking money ♪
961
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000
♪ Damn, you think you're real funny ♪
962
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000
♪ Going fast 'cause I'm hungry ♪
963
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
♪ Call me crash test dummy ♪
964
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000
♪ Hey ♪
965
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000
♪ Hey, bro, when you gonna pay me? ♪
966
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000
♪♪
967
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Mr. Arbab met with the SEC alone without a lawyer.
968
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
I didn't go in there with an attorney or anything, you know?
969
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000
I went in there, and I just made some stuff up, you know,
970
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
I didn't tell them anything of what happened.
971
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000
They were pretty annoyed with that.
972
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000
From a prosecutor's point of view,
973
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,000
that's a pretty brazen act by a defendant.
974
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,000
And it seems here that he thought he could outwit the SEC.
975
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000
So the SEC filed a complaint against Syed Arbab stating
976
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,000
that Syed defrauded eight investors out of $269,000.
977
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,000
That amount is understating it by a good bit.
978
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000
He lost over and over.
979
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000
I could have lost everything.
980
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Friends' money, like, family's friends' money.
981
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
He lied about having an MBA.
982
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,000
He lied about his returns,
983
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
he lied about his assets under management.
984
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,000
I could sit here all day and tell you about
985
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000
every single thing that he's ever said,
986
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000
and it's probably on that list.
987
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
♪♪
988
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,000
As Muslims, we always have to be responsible for our actions,
989
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,000
making sure that you're telling the truth.
990
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,000
I will say he did let the Muslim community down a little bit.
991
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000
I felt horrible, because my parents were very distraught
992
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000
about the entire event.
993
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000
I just didn't want my dad to get involved at all, you know?
994
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,000
I just wanted to start handling my own problems and stuff.
995
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
But at that point it was irreversible.
996
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
My dad is definitely compassionate
997
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,000
and caring just because I am his only son.
998
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,000
So, ultimately, I decided to plead guilty
999
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000
to one count of securities fraud
1000
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,000
which faces a maximum time in prison for five years.
1001
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
I wouldn't say that the entire fund
1002
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000
was operated as a Ponzi scheme.
1003
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000
I would say just that action was a representative
1004
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,000
of a Ponzi scheme. Yes.
1005
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000
I mean, I needed to essentially pay out the investors,
1006
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,000
and the only way to do so was to just pay off the investor
1007
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000
with someone else's capital.
1008
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Think about the ego behind somebody
1009
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000
who says that I can con you out of thousands of dollars.
1010
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
I can make them believe in something that doesn't exist.
1011
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,000
He may have very well thought
1012
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000
that he could use his velvet tongue
1013
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000
to get away from the wrath of a federal judge
1014
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000
or a vigilant prosecutor.
1015
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000
ARIANNA: Since awaiting sentencing,
1016
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
everything he's posted on social media,
1017
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000
it seems like this is all a joke to him
1018
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000
and that he's above the law.
1019
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Syed, yes, is definitely all about getting attention.
1020
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
I remember an Instagram post,
1021
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000
and he was dressed up as Jordan Belfort for Halloween.
1022
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
AARON: Someone even said on the comments
1023
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000
to that picture of him being the Wolf of Wall Street,
1024
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,000
"Aren't you supposed to be in jail?"
1025
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,000
And he comments back,
1026
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,000
ROMANOFF: "Do I look like I'm in jail, bitch?"
1027
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,000
It's like he's just soaking it up.
1028
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,000
He's loving it.
1029
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
MAN: You got a little backlash dressing up as Jordan Belfort
1030
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
after you had been...
1031
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Indicted of securities fraud, yeah.
1032
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So, I mean, like I said before,
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I try to find the funny situation
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where people don't think there is, you know?
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I always like to have, like, a light side on a serious note,
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you know.
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I'm telling you, he does not care,
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and he does not feel sympathetic for what he did at all,
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and he's honestly the worst kind of person that this earth has.
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MOORE: Some people think that money crimes are victimless crimes.
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They're not. Yeah, you don't have somebody
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who's got a physical scar to show it,
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but you may have somebody who's had their life savings
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wiped out.
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ARIANNA: It hurt everybody that was involved.
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It sucks. I hate that this happened.
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And I just don't understand,
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because he was one of my best friends for years.
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KATIE: It makes me mad that I feel like
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I won't be able to see him become,
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like, the full person he could have.
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Like, I don't know if he'll ever be able
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to chase after those dreams
1054
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he used to have of being a doctor, things like that.
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I just don't know if that's even, like,
1056
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a possibility anymore.
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♪♪
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[ Beethoven's "Sonata No. 14 'Quasi una fantasia'" plays ]
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ARBAB: Of course I feel remorse.
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I mean, most of the investors are my friends and family,
1061
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very close friends and family,
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but my biggest regrets were not being completely honest
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about it.
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[ Playing continues ]
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I'm just gonna keep doing what I do.
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MAN: Gonna keep working?
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Mm. Keep grinding.
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[ Playing continues ]
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I still have a few more years of learning to do.
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Hopefully I can still go along that path
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and try to make my father proud, you know?
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[ Playing continues ]
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My hope is for someone who's viewing this
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to essentially take into light everything I did and not just,
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like, say, "Damn. he lived, like, a really sick life."
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You know, I want them to essentially focus
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on the mistakes I made,
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expand on it without making the same mistakes I did.
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[ Playing continues ]
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♪♪
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[ Playing stops ]
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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