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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:07,000 ♪♪ 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 WILL R.: Syed is extremely smart. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 This guy's a smart dude. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 A lot of people saw him as, like, the math wiz. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,000 ♪♪ 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Not many people that are 21 years old are, 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,000 you know, have their own hedge fund. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,000 WILL R.: I think that was the beginning of the campus legend. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 But he's a class-A manipulator. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,000 ♪♪ 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Former UGA student is charged in a Ponzi scheme. 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Ran the enterprise out of a fraternity house. 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 This Ponzi scheme is a bit different than the other ones. 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,000 The alleged mastermind targeted fellow students. 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 ARBAB: Did I want to be a millionaire when I grew up? 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 ♪♪ 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 I wanted to be a billionaire when I grew up. 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,000 ♪♪ 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,000 [ Police sirens wail ] 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:07,000 ♪♪ 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:20,000 [ Piano playing ] 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:31,000 [ Playing continues ] 23 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 ARBAB: When I get lost in a song, it's a stress relief 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 because you don't really have to focus on anything else 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 but that song just in that moment, you know? 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,000 [ Playing continues ] 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,000 The way I see piano, you know, I feel like it's math. 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,000 I like math. 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,000 I see all the keys and chords as numbers. 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Number memorization in general, you know, 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 it runs in my family, I'd say. 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 I was born and raised as a Muslim. 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 I didn't drink growing up. 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Parents were always strict. 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Told to focus on our education. 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Islam is definitely a very important part of our lives. 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 We always wanted to be a good influence to our community. 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,000 So obviously as Muslims we had a lot of pride. 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 ARBAB: My mother, she has her masters in economics. 40 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 My father, he's an MD PhD. 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 He is definitely someone I consider 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,000 a role model in my life, 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 who I want to be when I grow up. 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 MAN: When you grow up? 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 When I grow up. I mean, I am a grown man now, 46 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 you know [Laughs] so. 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,000 My name is Syed. 48 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 MUSHFIQUR: I've always looked up to Syed. 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Syed's actually one of the smartest people I know. 50 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 At one point, he did hold the record 51 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,000 for memorizing the most numbers in pi. 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:57,000 [ Clears throat ] 3.14159265358979323... 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,000 ARBAB: Whoever can memorize the most digits of pi got a pie, 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 and obviously my fat self wanted a pie. 55 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,000 ...1058209... 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,000 ARBAB: So I ended up clearing, like, 360 digits. 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Is that enough? 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000 I liked pie. I love pie. 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,000 My favorite is banana cream, but that's another subject. 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,000 [ Chuckles ] 61 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 When I was a child, I used to be, like, really fat. 62 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,000 I weighed, like, 190 in the 7th grade, I was 5'5". 63 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,000 He was a little pudgy, yeah. [ Laughs ] 64 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,000 When puberty hit, the interest of girls came into play. 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 That's when I was like, "Wow. I'm really fat. 66 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,000 I need to lose weight." People were like, 67 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 "Oh," I mean, "Here's these types of diets 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,000 you can do." I was like, "No, 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,000 I'm just gonna do it my way, 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 because I want to lose this much weight 71 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,000 in this timespan." 72 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 [ Drink fizzes, can pops ] 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 I would only drink three energy drinks a day... 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 [ Heart racing] 75 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,000 ...and running, like, two miles 76 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 and just not eating anything. 77 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,000 [ Drink fizzes, can pops ] [ Heart races ] 78 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,000 When I was 11, on Mother's Day, 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 I was playing basketball outside, you know, 80 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 I hadn't eaten a thing. [ Can pops ] 81 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 I went up for a layup. 82 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 I got shoved and just put on the ground. 83 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 I started going lightheaded. 84 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 I couldn't even see, and I started going inside 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 and try and get my mom for help, 86 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 and I fell to the ground. 87 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 I wake up in the ER. 88 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,000 I had a heart attack. 89 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 It's actually when I developed a heart condition, as well, 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 just because of the diet and regimen that I was following. 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,000 It obviously wasn't the healthiest way 92 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 to go about it, but it happened. 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 I made it happen. 94 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 [ Bell rings ] 95 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,000 So, going into high school, 96 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 I lost weight, felt really awesome. 97 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000 But then felt as though I needed to stand out. 98 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 One of the reasons why, obviously the girls. 99 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,000 What I found was humor is one of the main interactions 100 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 that attract people. 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Does it look like I'm sweating? 102 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 [ Laughs ] 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Aw, shit. 104 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 So, when I met Syed when we were freshmen, 105 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,000 he's very much a goofball. 106 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 He was always very dramatic on social media. 107 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] I always thought he was funny. 108 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 I think that he really, like, tried to be in 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,000 with the cool kids. [ Cellphone notification rings ] 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Whenever we would go out, people would be like, "Oh, Syed," 111 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,000 and would come up or say, "Oh, you're Syed from Twitter." 112 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 [ Laughs ] 113 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 We were both in AP French together 114 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 and ended up going on a France trip. 115 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 So that's how we really became close. 116 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 MAN: Now, did you and Syed ever date? 117 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 No [Laughs] we never dated, 118 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,000 but everyone always thought we were dating. 119 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 He was one of my best friends. 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 He would try and talk to me about stuff, 121 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 and it just went right over my head, 122 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 because it was [Laughs] like, too complicated. 123 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,000 But he's so smart. 124 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 125 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 One day, I started seeing, like, 126 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 these girls wear lululemon leggings. 127 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 ♪♪ 128 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 You know, it was like a new thing. 129 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 I was like, "Damn, they look nice." 130 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,000 So I tell my dad, I was like, 131 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 "Hey, there's this really cool company 132 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 you should focus on, it's called lululemon." 133 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,000 I think they're gonna do really well. 134 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,000 He invests a little bit and then next thing you know... 135 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 ♪♪ 136 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 ...he makes 40% off that. 137 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 That was, I would say, my first stock pick. 138 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 It was pretty awesome. 139 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 From there on out I was a little bit more interested 140 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,000 in terms of finance and analytics. 141 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 After I graduated high school, I got a scholarship, 142 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 which was like essentially a full ride 143 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 to the University of Georgia, 144 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 and that's why I wasn't at Harvard. [ Laughs ] 145 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:35,000 ♪♪ 146 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,000 I got to Georgia, you know, the sun's beaming, 147 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:44,000 blue skies, pretty campus, pretty women. 148 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 The UGA is known as the second biggest party school 149 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 in the United States, which is pretty hilarious 150 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 because my father did not want me to go to a party school, 151 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 but I digress. 152 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,000 The University of Georgia and the South overall 153 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 was a whole new world for me. 154 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Didn't know anyone. 155 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 I had no friends there. I felt kind of out of place, 156 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 because I didn't drink. 157 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Everyone else is drinking, I was just, like, chilling. 158 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 159 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 One day, I saw these dudes wearing New Balances 160 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 and, like, a Southern Polo. 161 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 I was like, "Wow, these dudes look like dads." 162 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,000 The funniest part was, like, they had the hottest girls 163 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 walking along with them. 164 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 And I was like, "Wow, I guess this is 165 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 what the girls like here." 166 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 167 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 I kind of gave it, like, a semester to try 168 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 to see if I could make my own friends 169 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 and stuff like that, 170 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 but the fact that there were 80 bars, 171 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,000 you can't really do anything without drinking. 172 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 So growing up as a Muslim, I didn't drink, 173 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,000 but I just broke down and just said, "Fuck it." 174 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,000 ♪♪ 175 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 I actually met him at a bar called Bourbon Street. 176 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Syed liked to have a good time. 177 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Three words I would use to describe Syed would be -- 178 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 intelligent, ambitious, and fun. 179 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 ♪♪ 180 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 I first met him in organic chemistry. 181 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,000 I just remember thinking just like, 182 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 "Wow. This guy really knows his shit." 183 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 So I was, like, fairly impressed with this guy 184 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 just like from the first day basis. 185 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Sorry. I mess with a hair. [ Laughs ] 186 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 It's just... 187 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Syed was the first Muslim person 188 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,000 I had ever met in my life, which I thought was really cool. 189 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,000 He took me to the gym a couple times and taught me ways 190 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 he learned to workout with his heart condition. 191 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 He was telling me about how he wanted to go to medical school, 192 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 and I think he was more so wanting to follow 193 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 in his dad's footsteps at the time. 194 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 And I had never personally met a doctor so I was like, 195 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 "Wow this guy really has it together." 196 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,000 There's never been a romance between the two of us, 197 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 but we always used to say that if we weren't married by 30 198 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 then we'd just get over it [Laughs] and marry each other. 199 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 ARBAB: I had a pretty good friend group, 200 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 but the networking group is pretty small. 201 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Being in Greek life has its networking abilities, 202 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 because if you know someone in a fraternity, 203 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 then you know their entire fraternity, sorority, 204 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 and whatnot. 205 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Greek life is the centerpiece of UGA. 206 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 It's what everything revolves around. 207 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 WILL R.: Georgia very much has, like, an Old South vibe 208 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 where it's, like, you know, very, like, tradition. 209 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,000 There's definitely fraternities 210 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 that are a bit more, you know, Southern, 211 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 and I guess with that, it's, like, a lot more, like, white. 212 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 It's kind of just like an SEC thing. 213 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 There's, like, racial vibe. 214 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:38,000 This is an unfortunate fact of SEC schools for the most part. 215 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 If your name is Syed Arbab 216 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,000 or if your name is not a John Smith, 217 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,000 you're gonna have a harder time getting into a fraternity. 218 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 People like Syed, they join Greek life to network. 219 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 I mean, like, obviously you're gonna meet people anywhere. 220 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 I don't know, I think it's mainly just to talk to girls 221 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 and, like, just drink a fuck ton of beer, 222 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 and like do coke every now and then, 223 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,000 which is why it's surprising why Syed joined, 224 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,000 'cause, like, you know, I guess it just feels like 225 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 more, like, a white thing. 226 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Kind of just made, like, a leap of faith move, 227 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 and I ended up getting a bid at Phi Kappa Tau. 228 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,000 ♪♪ 229 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 230 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,000 I joined Greek life my second semester when I was at UGA. 231 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Joining the fraternity as the only Muslim kid -- 232 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 composed of mainly Caucasians 233 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 and people living in the South for a while -- 234 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 it was pretty hard... [ Cellphone notification rings ] 235 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 ...but I was able to fit in. 236 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] I knew that he was 237 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 in a fraternity, and he seemed to kind of live, 238 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 like, a frat boy-type lifestyle. 239 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,000 I saw him advertise it on Twitter. 240 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 [ Laughs ] Fucking... 241 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,000 [ Laughs ] 242 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,000 When we worked at the bar, 243 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Syed started at the door, just doing the door guy stuff, 244 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 and he did have such a good work ethic. 245 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,000 WILL S.: While he would have all this fun, at the same time, 246 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000 you see him during the day, and he's there studying, 247 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 learning, researching the market, 248 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 and I have a lot of respect for that. 249 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 250 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 ARBAB: After I joined the fraternity, you know, 251 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 I tell these brothers that I'm interested in finance 252 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 and, like, watching the market. 253 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 "Wolf of Wall Street" came out so there was this huge ambition 254 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 of wanting to go into Wall Street 255 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 just because you saw this luxurious life 256 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 that Jordan Belfort led on. 257 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 The real Jordan Belfort, he made himself rich 258 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 because of his drive and motivation. 259 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,000 I made a GroupMe called The Wolves of Broad Street 260 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 based off the movie and Broad Street was 261 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 where our fraternity house was. 262 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,000 WILL G.: The GroupMe was not a place to make deals. 263 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 It was really just like a chatroom 264 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 and for Syed to show off what he could do. 265 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,000 ♪♪ 266 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 [ Cellphone keyboard clacks ] 267 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 He would always be in the group chat 268 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,000 calling out plays, and they would end up being great plays. 269 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 WILL R.: Syed was, like, into options trading, 270 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 and that's, like, high-risk. 271 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Every now and then he'd, like, have a good move, 272 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 and he'd, like, screenshot it. 273 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,000 And everyone would be like, "Damn. This guy knows his shit." 274 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 The GroupMe avatar was a picture of him 275 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 with sunglasses on and a hat, 276 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,000 and $100 bills stuck all around the bill of the hat. 277 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 ARBAB: It was just the fact that money would be able 278 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,000 to give me the power to create my own destiny. 279 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 At this point, I'd been working nonstop at the bar. 280 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 I have around $5,000. 281 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 [ Cash register dings ] 282 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 I put it all in the market. 283 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:32,000 ♪♪ 284 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 By his sophomore year, Wolves of Broad Street, 285 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,000 the GroupMe, really got his name out there. 286 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 WILL R.: He started getting this reputation, 287 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 and I think he was just enjoying it. 288 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 KATIE: I think that's when Syed kind of looked at things 289 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,000 and said, "Let me take this to the next step." 290 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,000 ♪♪ 291 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Oil and gold, two stocks that will -- 292 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,000 or two commodities that will move particularly 293 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,000 as interest rates move as well. 294 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Just about everybody and their brother 295 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,000 is expecting interest rates will rise. 296 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,000 ARBAB: It was anticipated that Janet Yellen 297 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000 was going to be increasing interest rates by 0.25% 298 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 during this federal interest rate meeting. 299 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,000 I expected gold to essentially do very well 300 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000 right after that meeting. 301 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,000 So I put in $30,000 on an option that expired that same week. 302 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,000 I mean, I never gambled before, obviously. 303 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Well, I mean, if you want to call options trading gambling, 304 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 sure, whatever, but. [ Laughs ] 305 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 I don't think I'm the best [Laughs] guy to define it. 306 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 [ Laughs ] I don't want to get it wrong. 307 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,000 What does laymen's terms mean? 308 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Okay. So, options trading is essentially betting 309 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,000 on the future value of something. 310 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,000 You're buying a contract to have the right to buy or sell 311 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,000 that stock at a future date for a set price. 312 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 It's definitely risky. It's high-risk, high-return. 313 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 MUSHFIQUR: He was like, "Okay. You know what? I'm going to risk 314 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 all of this 30K that I've worked for. 315 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,000 At the end of this trade, I'm either going to be filthy rich, 316 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 or I'm gonna be a poor man." 317 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 That much money on the line. 318 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 It's absolutely insane. 319 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 ARBAB: We're gonna broadcasting the fed meeting 320 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 at the fraternity house at 2:00 PM. 321 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Some of the kids actually skipped class. 322 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,000 We had our monitors around the TV room, 323 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 and then we had the big TV with the meeting on. 324 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 At 2:00 P.M. on the dot... 325 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,000 [ Clock ticks ] 326 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 ...we're watching all the screens. 327 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 I seriously almost threw up... 328 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Good Afternoon. 329 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 ...because I knew that he had put all of his money 330 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 on this one single thing. 331 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 And it's like literally just burning your money, 332 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,000 it's setting it on fire. 333 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 ARBAB: This was a big event. It was like watching, like, 334 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Conor McGregor fight, you know, Floyd Mayweather, 335 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 you know, it was just something big. 336 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Today the Federal Open Market Committee 337 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,000 decided to raise the target range for the federal funds rate 338 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 by 1/4 percentage point, 339 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,000 bringing it to 3/4 to 1%. [ Cheering ] 340 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Gold just takes off. 341 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:09,000 ♪♪ 342 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,000 I came out with $112,000. 343 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,000 ♪♪ 344 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 [ Cheering ] 345 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 I mean... [ Laughs ] 346 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 [ Laughs ] It's just like, "What?" 347 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Screenshots of his account being, like, over a $100k. 348 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:28,000 I remember him going downtown, hitting the bars with the boys, 349 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 and really celebrating. [ Cellphone notification rings ] 350 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,000 ARBAB: I got a tab for all the boys that came out to the meeting. 351 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 It was a good Wednesday night in Athens. 352 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Yeah. I think that was the beginning 353 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 of the campus legend. 354 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 ♪♪ 355 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,000 WILL G.: That reputation did start spreading around, 356 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,000 and more and more people started joining the GroupMe. 357 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 ♪♪ 358 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 The Wolves of Broad Street at this point has already grown 359 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 to about 1,200. 360 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Everyone was like, "Oh, my God," you know? 361 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,000 I was just getting congrats DMs 362 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 from, like, random people I don't even know. 363 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Even a guy that I had dated who went to Georgia Tech 364 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,000 was in this GroupMe. 365 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 "Yo, I heard your name from, like, my buddy so-and-so. 366 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,000 He's, like, in your group. 367 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Can you possibly tell me, like, how to trade and whatnot? 368 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Like, I want to make money" 369 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 "Can I give you 500 bucks and you trade it for a week or two 370 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 and you can get it back to me?" 371 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 ARBAB: People were throwing $500 to $1,000 at me, you know, 372 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 and I was making the returns. 373 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,000 It stopped being, "Hey. Let me give you $500," 374 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,000 to, "Hey. Let me give you $10,000 to invest for me." 375 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000 ARBAB: That was the first time I started realize 376 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 that I could make money managing other people's money. 377 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 He was just like, "I'm just gonna start my own hedge fund 378 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 out of my fraternity." [ Laughs ] 379 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 It was called Artis Proficio Capital Investments. 380 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 In Latin it means, like, artistic profits. 381 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:47,000 ♪♪ 382 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000 I hit Syed up, because I was just gonna turn 18. 383 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 I was like, "Hey. I have all this money on me. 384 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,000 What should I do with it?" He was like, 385 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 "Well, I have a hedge fund. 386 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,000 It's called Artis Proficio." 387 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 This college kid doing a double-major. 388 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,000 He's working odd jobs, and he runs a hedge fund? 389 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Like, at this point I didn't even know what a hedge fund was 390 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 to be honest, you know. 391 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,000 I always heard the word, you know, 392 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,000 but I always thought, like, in my head, 393 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 "Green hedges and a fund," you know? 394 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 It just didn't really make sense. 395 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,000 I was like, "What the hell is that?" 396 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 But anyway, I googled, "hedge fund contracts." 397 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 I actually ripped from online -- 398 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 I mean, I'm not a lawyer. 399 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 The pitch would start off as, like, 400 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 "We were a smaller company," you know, 401 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 "It's comprised of college students, 402 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 raising money for college students." 403 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 It was very easy to convince people 404 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,000 that initially invested with us, because it's just like, 405 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,000 "Yeah, I mean, for sure, dude, 406 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 I mean, I've been following your trades 407 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,000 for, like, the last three years." 408 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Syed had a guarantee of up to $15,000, 409 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 he'd guarantee it out of his pocket. 410 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 And so, I went ahead and to start off, 411 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 I just had $3,000 in there. 412 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 I put in a couple thousand. 413 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 I put in about $1,500. 414 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,000 I was looking at it as a college student saying, 415 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,000 "Oh, my gosh. This could pay off my student debt." 416 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 And I think lot of people saw his success, 417 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 and a lot of people thought that way. 418 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Everybody wanted to invest with Syed. 419 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,000 So, out of the gates, you know, so I put in all the money 420 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,000 that I had for myself into the fund. 421 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 And I was around $120,000 at this point. 422 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Other people had invested. 423 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 It was around another $50,000. 424 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,000 A few angel investors, as well, that came on 425 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,000 and put in, like, around another $200,000. 426 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,000 We were, like, 1/4 to 1/3 of $1 million when we came out. 427 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Yeah. 428 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,000 So, I heard Syed was running his own hedge fund 429 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000 through the grapevine of a bunch of people 430 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000 that I went to high school with. 431 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 They were like, "Yeah, like, it's great," 432 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 and, you know, they all kept referencing this spreadsheet 433 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,000 which he had showed me. 434 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,000 WILL S.: When you invested your money, he gave you an account number 435 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000 and so every week, 436 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,000 he would send a spreadsheet... [ Cellphone notification rings ] 437 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000 ...of all the different accounts, 438 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,000 and you look at the line with your account number. 439 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 My number was 64. 440 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,000 ♪♪ 441 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 I think I was, like, literally number 77. 442 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,000 He was doing that so we could all see all these other people 443 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 were making great returns, too. 444 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 All of us are making good money. 445 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 And it was going up a lot, very fast. 446 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 ARBAB: People saw the spreadsheet, 447 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,000 it definitely helped with the momentum. 448 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,000 They just loved seeing that grow, 449 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 and they're like, "Wow." [ Cellphone notification rings ] 450 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 WILL R.: I don't remember [Laughs] ever seeing a dip. 451 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000 It was always like, "It was a good week. 452 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000 It's always a good week." [ Chuckles ] 453 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,000 ♪♪ 454 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:39,000 We cleared about 25% returns, you know. 455 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000 Nothing to joke about. 456 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 457 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000 I was pretty focused on social media 458 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000 just to broadcast. 459 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,000 I'd amplify my social media 460 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,000 based on, like, how my life was going. 461 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,000 ♪ We got everything that we wanted, man ♪ 462 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000 ♪ It was all a dream ♪ 463 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 ♪ We turn nothing into something, yeah ♪ 464 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 ♪ Honey for the ring ♪ 465 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 ♪ Now we stuntin', yeah ♪ 466 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Syed on social media, he was very flashy. 467 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 His Instagram is something else. 468 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 He's making money, he's partying. 469 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,000 He's living the life. 470 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000 ♪ It was all a dream ♪ 471 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000 ♪ We turn nothing into something, yeah ♪ 472 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 WILL S.: You know, he bought this Corvette. 473 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 You know, he would drive the nice cars. 474 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 He was going on trips. 475 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 WILL S.: Pictures of him flying out to Vegas. 476 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] KATIE: Pictures of $100 bills. 477 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 "Big gains today." 478 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,000 WILL R.: "Fast lane, big money, coke, 479 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 these girls that I fly out to Vegas, 480 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,000 and I got a hedge fund." 481 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,000 The brown boy's on the block. 482 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 ♪ ...over now ♪ ♪ Honey for the ring ♪ 483 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 ♪ Now I'm stuntin', yeah ♪ 484 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,000 KATIE: It was the clothes, the watches. 485 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 He would even text me and say, "I'm buying you an outfit today. 486 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Go pick something out." 487 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000 And I would say, "Like, no. 488 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000 I don't need that to be your friend." 489 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,000 Clearly he was, like, going for this image. 490 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,000 People were, like, buying it. 491 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,000 "I'm like this G, who's making money." 492 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000 ♪ Honey for the ring ♪ 493 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 And they see a college student, like, with a Corvette, 494 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 like, with beautiful women, 495 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,000 they're like, "Okay. So this guy actually makes money." 496 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 It was a form of free advertisement, you know? 497 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,000 You definitely have to show success to get success. 498 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 ♪ ...into something, yeah ♪ 499 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:13,000 He more so changed his persona into the typical frat boy. 500 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,000 You couldn't really distinguish him from the others. 501 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:24,000 ♪♪ 502 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Drugs made him efficient. 503 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 It made him, instead of five steps ahead, ten steps ahead. 504 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 505 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Cocaine was the key factor in his downfall. 506 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 507 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,000 ARIANNA: Why would you be posting this 508 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 if you're starting a company 509 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 trying to get investors in? 510 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 It doesn't look responsible. 511 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 He had a drug problem. 512 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,000 KATIE: I would tell him I was concerned because of his heart condition. 513 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 And he would say, "Oh no, don't worry about it. It's fine." 514 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000 It's just like any kind of upper, you know. 515 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,000 It's just a short-term effect. 516 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,000 It'll get you hype. 517 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,000 You know, obviously he had, like, a fair amount of haters. 518 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,000 I do remember Syed getting into a fight at a bar, 519 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,000 and I believe it was because someone said 520 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,000 something racially motivated towards him. 521 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000 ♪♪ 522 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,000 ARBAB: So, one time when I was downtown, 523 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,000 a kid was like, "Hey, sand nigger, 524 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 what are you doing?" 525 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 And he just kept going. I was drunk myself, you know. 526 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 And after that I just got in a fight with him, you know. 527 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,000 I punched him in the face. 528 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:34,000 ♪♪ 529 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000 KATIE: Syed did post on Instagram 530 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 a picture of him kind of surrounded by his friends. 531 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 [ Men giggle ] 532 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Syed put on an act like he didn't care. 533 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 I think that's kind of telling of how he did respond 534 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 to those kinds of situations. 535 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 He's got to make sure people know that he's funny... 536 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 537 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 ...and that he's unbothered. 538 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000 He will try to make you believe 539 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000 he's got the best life in the world. 540 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,000 I know that those things really hurt him deeply. 541 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 ARBAB: I was pretty mad about that. 542 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 It was definitely a similar feeling 543 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 that I felt when I was a kid. 544 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,000 You know, that's when I first immigrated to the United States. 545 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,000 People were getting better treatment 546 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000 just because of their skin color and their ethnicity, 547 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 you know? So. 548 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,000 [ Johann S. Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D minor" plays ] 549 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 As I was growing up, 550 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 I saw that there were a lot of kids around me, you know, 551 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,000 that were brown like me, 552 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000 that were kind of antisocial and awkward 553 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,000 and didn't mix with anyone else but their own race groups. 554 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,000 What I wanted to do is essentially break out of that, 555 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 have more friends than just the stereotypical brown kid 556 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000 that's pretty good at math. 557 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:53,000 [ Johann S. Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D minor" plays ] 558 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,000 And when you experience racial prejudice, 559 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,000 you never want to get used to it, 560 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 because no one deserves racial prejudice. 561 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,000 What it did for me was made me stand out. 562 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000 It drove me to be better than them, 563 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000 'cause if they want to insult me 564 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,000 when I'm on a higher pedestal, then they just sound stupid. 565 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 That's what made me be better. 566 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,000 [ Playing continues ] 567 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000 [ Playing stops ] 568 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000 ♪♪ 569 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000 I told my dad a little bit about the hedge fund. 570 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] He told me to focus more 571 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 on my medical career. 572 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] He hates finance, 573 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 because he has the connotation that it's a shortcut way 574 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000 of making money, which it is. 575 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000 He considered it always as, like, my hobby. 576 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000 That's the extent of what he knew about it in 2018. 577 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 578 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 But any ways, 579 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 summer going into the fall of 2018, 580 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,000 that's when the market was at its peak. 581 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 582 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000 ♪♪ 583 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Because whenever you see a bullish market, 584 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000 you see a lot more investors being enticed 585 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000 to make more capital so it's like an expansion effect. 586 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000 I had $700,000 at this point. 587 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 KATIE: I really didn't believe him that he was having all the success 588 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000 that he said he was, and he would show me. 589 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000 I mean, he would show me the dollar amounts in the accounts, 590 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,000 and he was doing well. 591 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,000 He had the potential where if he's getting these returns, 592 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,000 you could put hundreds of millions, 593 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000 you could put billions in a fund like that. 594 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Over a million dollars in the last year. 595 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000 We're making money hand over fist. 596 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000 ♪♪ 597 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000 It was unbelievable. 598 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:39,000 ♪♪ 599 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Today, we start with a big lump of coal for investors 600 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 and the US economy. 601 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 WOMAN: This is no December to remember. 602 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000 It's been another ugly session for stocks. 603 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,000 ARBAB: In December 2018, I started seeing the market fall. 604 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 This is gonna be a negative year, 605 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,000 and we're on track for the worst December since 1931. 606 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000 The total account value went down. 607 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000 It went down from $1 million to $600,000. 608 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,000 ♪♪ 609 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000 The losses were immense. 610 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Who wants to hear that on Christmas, 611 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000 "You lost 40% of your portfolio that you invested with me. 612 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 I'm sorry." 613 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 It's like, I compare it very much to gambling, 614 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 'cause, like, what he was doing, it was just, you know, 615 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000 just super risky plays. 616 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,000 ARBAB: End of December, like, going into January, 617 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000 I lost 3/4 of a million. 618 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000 His tolerance to risk was just not there. 619 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000 He only looked at the upside, never the downside. 620 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Then, people started asking, like, "Where's the spreadsheet?" 621 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,000 [ Cellphone keyboard clacks ] I kind of just sent 622 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000 a spreadsheet with just, like, the same numbers. 623 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] 624 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,000 I had two options -- 625 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 I could have filed for bankruptcy, 626 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 but these were my friends and family. 627 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000 They trusted me with their capital. 628 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,000 I didn't want to explain these losses. 629 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 I wanted to make these losses back. 630 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 That's the decision I made. 631 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 I kept quiet. 632 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 I was telling investors that everything was fine 633 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000 when really it was not. 634 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 That was definitely the first time I had told, 635 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 like, the biggest lie. 636 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000 MOORE: We as a culture want things fast. 637 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,000 That's why we have diet pills 638 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 that are supposed to work in 30 days. 639 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 The victims want to improve their circumstances. 640 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,000 These schemers and fraudsters prey on that, 641 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,000 and that's sort of how he began to culminate his scheme 642 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,000 and grow his pool of victims. 643 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,000 ♪♪ 644 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,000 ARBAB: After I experienced these losses, 645 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000 there was so much immense pressure coming in. 646 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000 There was not enough money to circulate, you know? 647 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 We needed to take higher risk to recoup the losses 648 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000 that we had experienced. 649 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000 We -- I, I, I. 650 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 The entire time I was trying to raise money 651 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000 and then at this point, there was no organization whatsoever. 652 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,000 The only accounting that was done by the company was me. 653 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 I initially invested 5 grand with him, 654 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000 I just wanted to see how he was able to play around with it 655 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000 before I was able to trust him. 656 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 I told him, you know, "Don't fuck me over." 657 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,000 He tried to ensure me that everything was gonna be okay. 658 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000 ARBAB: My mental state was not there, 659 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 and my market state was not there either. 660 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,000 I was trying to turn it around before anything was noticeable. 661 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000 WILL S.: At this point, we didn't know that he had lost 662 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000 that much of the money. 663 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 He was trading it out of his personal account, 664 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000 to my knowledge, and that's what I wanted to help him with, 665 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000 because, you know, I was looking at this and, 666 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000 "Wow. You're doing great, 667 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000 but you don't know what you're doing." 668 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,000 When you're talking about building an organization 669 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,000 and doing legal compliance, he was clueless. 670 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000 So I introduced him to Stephen Romanoff. 671 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,000 How should I sit? Where do I put my hands? 672 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000 My name's Stephen Romanoff. 673 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,000 I do have quite an extensive background in fund formations, 674 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,000 specifically around hedge funds and venture capital funds. 675 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000 He felt like a genuine kid, 676 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000 decently intelligent, decent trader, 677 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000 but some big backers. 678 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 Opportunity. 679 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Stephen is still under the impression 680 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,000 that we were close to 1 million AUM, 681 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 in assets under management. 682 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 But I didn't show him the latest one. 683 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 I showed him all the way up to, you know, November 30th, 684 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 and the first week of December, and he was like, 685 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000 "All right. That makes sense to me." 686 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,000 I told him, like, "Hey. You got to redo this whole thing." 687 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,000 He was very organized 688 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000 in terms of the structure and what we needed. 689 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000 He listed out, like, you know, we needed a securities attorney, 690 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000 new paperwork, documentation, you know? 691 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000 I mean, the costs were immense. 692 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000 It's always fun to hear someone doing something 693 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000 quote-unquote "big" 694 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,000 and going and talking to them and letting them know 695 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000 they have no idea what they're doing 696 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000 and just being a dick about it. 697 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000 So it's kind of fun to me. [ Laughs ] 698 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,000 ♪♪ 699 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000 ARBAB: It was obscene. 700 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000 We got the most expensive lawyers. 701 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000 We needed the most expensive prime brokerage accounts. 702 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000 So, I brought him some lawyers, 703 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 some really good securities lawyers here in the city, 704 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,000 and he paid the retainer after pulling teeth, it's $10,000. 705 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000 It took forever. First red flag for me. 706 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000 I needed to bring on more investors, 707 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000 and that's kind of why I brought him on board, 708 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,000 because that's the promise that he had made. 709 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Yeah, so this is the pitch deck that I came up with. 710 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000 He had no idea how to make a deck. 711 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,000 I had to pull everything out of him. 712 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000 He didn't know what almost any of this was. 713 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000 Did you read the deck and proofread it? 714 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 To be completely honest, no, I didn't. 715 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000 A pretty clear indication that it was amateur hour. 716 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Here, his strategy summary -- 717 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000 "S-U-M-M-E-R-Y." 718 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 People can think what they want to 719 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,000 about the University of Georgia, but I can promise you 720 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000 they'll teach you how to spell summary. 721 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,000 He puts he has an MBA from the "terry collage of business" 722 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,000 and doesn't capitalize it. 723 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000 If we look at the front page of his flyer, 724 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,000 it says he has one, but on the back page, 725 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000 he says he's working on it. 726 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000 WILL G.: I mean, it's a complete lie. 727 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000 He had everyone fooled 728 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000 that he was doing this masters program. 729 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,000 MOORE: It's the same old tale -- 730 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,000 he cultivated those relationships, 731 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,000 and he sold them a bill of goods that never existed. 732 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000 And at this point I was just definitely scrambling for money. 733 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 I was introduced to an investor. 734 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000 He was a Georgia alum. 735 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 I advertised to him that he could make 736 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000 a lot of money within a few weeks' span. 737 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,000 So this investor had given me $100,000. 738 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,000 I took the $100,000, and I put it into the market. 739 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,000 ♪♪ 740 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,000 I lost it. 741 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000 It was just an entire mess. 742 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000 I mean, what am I gonna do? 743 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000 I had to pull it together. 744 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000 I had to try to get the gain back. 745 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 I decided to go to Vegas. 746 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,000 [ Computer mouse clicks ] 747 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 I had to take that risk. 748 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000 ♪♪ 749 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,000 I decided to try to make money on roulette. 750 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000 ROMANOFF: I had heard he was going to Vegas, 751 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000 and I think this was right after 752 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000 I had invested, and I was like, 753 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000 "Well, I'm going to go to make sure 754 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 that he doesn't waste my money." 755 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,000 I just didn't trust him. 756 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000 ARBAB: At that point I just kept on, like, a positive face, 757 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000 telling investors that everything was fine 758 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000 through social media. 759 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:24,000 ♪♪ 760 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000 I was under so much time pressure, 761 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000 losing even more money, bleeding, and hemorrhaging. 762 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000 ♪♪ 763 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000 I don't even -- he could have been gambling 764 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000 with the hedge fund money. 765 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 I don't think he was. 766 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,000 Could've? I don't know. 767 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 ♪♪ 768 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000 So I wire him $5,000, and, you know, I'm expecting him 769 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000 to make some investment in the fund. 770 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000 I get a call from Stephen, and he tells me, 771 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000 "Hey. I don't know why you did that. 772 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Syed had actually used all that money to gamble with." 773 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000 ♪♪ 774 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000 He lost Will's $5,000. 775 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000 He lost all of my money plus a bunch of his own. 776 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 ♪♪ 777 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000 ARBAB: The walls were closing in on me. 778 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000 My life just spiraled out of control. 779 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 It was definitely just failure 780 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000 that I've never been exposed to before. 781 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000 It seemed pretty unrecoverable. 782 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,000 [ Cellphone vibrates ] I was getting maybe, like, 783 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000 300 texts a day. 784 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,000 We were hemorrhaging a lot more money in the markets. 785 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000 [ Cellphone keyboard clacks ] 786 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000 This investor that had given me $100,000, you know, 787 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000 I was scrambling to get that capital back to him 788 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000 as soon as possible. 789 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000 I needed another way. 790 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 I started dealing cocaine. 791 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000 I buy an ounce of cocaine. 792 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000 I bag it up in bags. 793 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000 I put them in my pockets, you know, right here. 794 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,000 You know, I'd have, like, baggy, like, sweatpants 795 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 or something. 796 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000 At the bar, people would just high five me with cash, 797 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000 and I'd give them the cocaine. 798 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000 And I'd just have, like, a stack in my fucking pocket. 799 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000 It was absurd. 800 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000 I mean, there was a lot of rumors going around 801 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000 that he was, like, the biggest drug dealer in UGA. 802 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000 I heard that it was, like, kind of, like, cut with, like, 803 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000 some baking soda. 804 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,000 ARBAB: But it wasn't enough. 805 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000 So, I knew a dealer. 806 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000 It was through my friend 807 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000 who was already connected with, like, the dark web. 808 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Walk inside, it smells like acetone. 809 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000 There was a bunch of cocaine everywhere, 810 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000 and just, like, money everywhere, as well. 811 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,000 I bought the kilo of cocaine for $22,000, 812 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000 and I sold it for $45,000. 813 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000 Pocketed $20,000 and just put it all in the market. 814 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000 ♪♪ 815 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000 The deadline came to pay back the $100,000, 816 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,000 and I didn't even have half of it. 817 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,000 He seemed stressed, and he always seemed like 818 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000 he was watching his back. 819 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000 He had gotten paranoid. 820 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,000 ARBAB: I was scared. 821 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,000 My anxiety started to build up like crazy. 822 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000 I got a gun just for safety purposes. 823 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000 I felt like everyone was, like, against me 824 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000 in some way or another. 825 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000 I had no grasp on, like, reality 826 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000 and what was going on, you know. 827 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000 It was really hard to watch him change like that, 828 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000 'cause he was really a great guy. 829 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,000 And I saw him just get consumed by a lot of demons. 830 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000 There was a point of no return. 831 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000 I mean, at this point it was just, like, scrambling to get 832 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000 any type of dollar amount that I could, 833 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000 but it wasn't enough. 834 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 I needed money so I was asking every single investor, 835 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 "Hey," like, "There's a decent opportunity 836 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000 in the market right now, like, 837 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000 would you want to put in more money?" 838 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000 It takes a particularly devious person, I think, 839 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000 to be a thief like this when you take somebody's money, 840 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000 and you don't invest it, using it to take trips, 841 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000 and you know you're doing the wrong thing. 842 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 I mean, this isn't just a naive kid. 843 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,000 He approached it as if he could outsmart the people 844 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000 that he had invested with him. 845 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,000 He had actually asked my dad for [Laughs] $250,000. 846 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000 It kind of offended me, because we were really close, 847 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000 and he was really close with my family, 848 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,000 but, like, we live in a normal, like, middle-class area, 849 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000 suburban town. 850 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000 My dad was kind of like, "What the hell? 851 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000 Where does this kid think I have $250,000 852 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000 to just give to him?" 853 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000 You know, after Vegas, I pretty much started finding 854 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,000 some fishy stuff. 855 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 You know, started monitoring some accounts more. 856 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000 So I was gonna send Syed $2,500, 857 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000 and I had reached my limit on Zelle that day. 858 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,000 And so he told me to Venmo $2,500 to an individual 859 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,000 he said was the FinTech manager and label the transaction 860 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,000 "Artis Proficio capital investment." 861 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000 A couple of weeks later, I received a comment 862 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 and the FinTech manager said, 863 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000 "Hey, do you have any money to send 864 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 on behalf of Syed today?" 865 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000 In the account I would see Venmos, 866 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Cashapps, Zelles, come in to the tune of $1,500, 867 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000 $2,000, $3,000 from certain people, 868 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000 and it would leave as soon as it came, 869 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,000 and it would go right to this one larger investor. 870 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Never left the account, 871 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,000 never went to a brokerage, nothing. 872 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000 And at that point I had asked Syed, 873 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000 "What is your FinTech manager talking about here?" 874 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000 And he goes, "Oh. LOL he's just fucking with you. 875 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000 He likes to joke around." 876 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,000 He started having people send it directly 877 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000 to this larger investor under the guise 878 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,000 of him being the "FinTech," 879 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000 you know, and that's not even the right terminology. 880 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Just lying. 881 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,000 I was like, "Well, that's really fishy." 882 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000 Like, "Why would someone just mess around about that?" 883 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000 [ Cellphone vibrates ] 884 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000 I got a phone call from the FinTech manager, 885 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,000 and I came to the conclusion that this FinTech manager 886 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,000 was actually an investor who was owed over $100,000. 887 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,000 My money that I'd sent him 888 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,000 was to satisfy debt that Syed owed him. 889 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000 He was taking that money 890 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,000 and paying back other investors with it, 891 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,000 textbook definition of a Ponzi scheme. 892 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,000 And that was pretty much when I sent an e-mail to the lawyers, 893 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000 and I told them, "Remove me from all the documents, 894 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000 and I didn't want to be involved with it. Best of luck." 895 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,000 So, yeah. 896 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000 It really is an investment scheme 897 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,000 where the head of the Ponzi scheme uses money 898 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000 from a second investor to pay the first investor. 899 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,000 You've now got two disgruntled investors 900 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,000 who've been put together. 901 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000 And that's where the dominoes start to fall. 902 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000 So me and the other investor go 903 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000 to the Securities and Exchange Commission. 904 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,000 And this was kind of a hard decision at first for me, 905 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,000 because Syed was my friend. 906 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Maybe this was some big misunderstanding. 907 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000 But eventually, I decided that this was 908 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000 what would be best for me, and this is what's gonna be best 909 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000 for all the investors who've gotten scammed, 910 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,000 and I decided to go through with it. 911 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000 MAN: Syed Arbab from the website of Artis Proficio Capital. 912 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000 That's the name of the hedge fund 913 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000 SEC Regional Director Richard Best says was a fake. 914 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,000 And then the more we looked into it, 915 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 the more we saw that he was engaging 916 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000 in a Ponzi scheme. 917 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000 I was like, "What the fuck?" 918 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,000 It was big news. 919 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000 I mean, all of the major newspapers -- 920 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000 "The UGA Ponzi scheme." 921 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000 This article posted saying, "Ponzi scheme." 922 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,000 I'm like, "All right. This can't be good." 923 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000 And after all of this, they say he only had about $350 924 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000 left in his account after spending the rest. 925 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:23,000 ♪♪ 926 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,000 MUSHFIQUR: What the hell? 927 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000 What just happened? 928 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,000 When Syed found out that I was affiliated 929 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000 with going to the SEC, he goes, 930 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000 "How could you do this to me, man?" 931 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,000 [ Cellphone notification rings ] "I've known you 932 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000 since we were 14. You're screwing me over," 933 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000 like, "My life is ruined." 934 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000 I said to him, "If you did nothing wrong, 935 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000 and you were actually investing our money, 936 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000 then you have nothing to worry about." 937 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000 He made it seem like he was a victim 938 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,000 and that I had put him in this terrible situation. 939 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000 He was going off on like, "I hope you're happy. 940 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,000 I'm never gonna be able to get a job. 941 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000 I spent all this money on school for nothing. 942 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000 I'm not gonna go to med school. 943 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,000 I'm gonna go to prison." 944 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000 I couldn't believe that someone, you know, so crazy, 945 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000 in such a situation could actually think the way 946 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000 he thought at the time. 947 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000 It's unbelievable. 948 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000 The day of the SEC statement, my buddy, Will Rittmeyer, 949 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000 we were grilling out at the pool, and he was like, 950 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000 "Hey, man, like, we got to do a rap together." 951 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,000 I have, like, a little mic set up in, like, my apartment. 952 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000 It's a pretty good mic. 953 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000 It's the same mic that The Weeknd uses 954 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000 so it's, like, quality shit. 955 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000 And so I was like, "Dude, I can't think 956 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,000 of what to rap about." He was like, 957 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 "Well, rap about anything. 958 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Rap about what just happened today." 959 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Like, "Oh, Syed!" [ Laughs ] 960 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000 [ Rapping ] ♪ Want my fucking money ♪ 961 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000 ♪ Damn, you think you're real funny ♪ 962 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 ♪ Going fast 'cause I'm hungry ♪ 963 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000 ♪ Call me crash test dummy ♪ 964 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000 ♪ Hey ♪ 965 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000 ♪ Hey, bro, when you gonna pay me? ♪ 966 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000 ♪♪ 967 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000 Mr. Arbab met with the SEC alone without a lawyer. 968 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000 I didn't go in there with an attorney or anything, you know? 969 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000 I went in there, and I just made some stuff up, you know, 970 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 I didn't tell them anything of what happened. 971 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000 They were pretty annoyed with that. 972 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000 From a prosecutor's point of view, 973 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,000 that's a pretty brazen act by a defendant. 974 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,000 And it seems here that he thought he could outwit the SEC. 975 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000 So the SEC filed a complaint against Syed Arbab stating 976 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,000 that Syed defrauded eight investors out of $269,000. 977 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,000 That amount is understating it by a good bit. 978 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000 He lost over and over. 979 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000 I could have lost everything. 980 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000 Friends' money, like, family's friends' money. 981 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000 He lied about having an MBA. 982 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,000 He lied about his returns, 983 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000 he lied about his assets under management. 984 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,000 I could sit here all day and tell you about 985 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000 every single thing that he's ever said, 986 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000 and it's probably on that list. 987 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000 ♪♪ 988 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,000 As Muslims, we always have to be responsible for our actions, 989 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,000 making sure that you're telling the truth. 990 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,000 I will say he did let the Muslim community down a little bit. 991 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000 I felt horrible, because my parents were very distraught 992 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000 about the entire event. 993 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000 I just didn't want my dad to get involved at all, you know? 994 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,000 I just wanted to start handling my own problems and stuff. 995 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000 But at that point it was irreversible. 996 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 My dad is definitely compassionate 997 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,000 and caring just because I am his only son. 998 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,000 So, ultimately, I decided to plead guilty 999 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000 to one count of securities fraud 1000 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,000 which faces a maximum time in prison for five years. 1001 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000 I wouldn't say that the entire fund 1002 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000 was operated as a Ponzi scheme. 1003 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000 I would say just that action was a representative 1004 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,000 of a Ponzi scheme. Yes. 1005 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000 I mean, I needed to essentially pay out the investors, 1006 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,000 and the only way to do so was to just pay off the investor 1007 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000 with someone else's capital. 1008 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Think about the ego behind somebody 1009 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000 who says that I can con you out of thousands of dollars. 1010 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000 I can make them believe in something that doesn't exist. 1011 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,000 He may have very well thought 1012 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000 that he could use his velvet tongue 1013 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000 to get away from the wrath of a federal judge 1014 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000 or a vigilant prosecutor. 1015 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000 ARIANNA: Since awaiting sentencing, 1016 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000 everything he's posted on social media, 1017 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000 it seems like this is all a joke to him 1018 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000 and that he's above the law. 1019 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000 Syed, yes, is definitely all about getting attention. 1020 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000 I remember an Instagram post, 1021 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000 and he was dressed up as Jordan Belfort for Halloween. 1022 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000 AARON: Someone even said on the comments 1023 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000 to that picture of him being the Wolf of Wall Street, 1024 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,000 "Aren't you supposed to be in jail?" 1025 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,000 And he comments back, 1026 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,000 ROMANOFF: "Do I look like I'm in jail, bitch?" 1027 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,000 It's like he's just soaking it up. 1028 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,000 He's loving it. 1029 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000 MAN: You got a little backlash dressing up as Jordan Belfort 1030 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000 after you had been... 1031 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000 Indicted of securities fraud, yeah. 1032 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,000 So, I mean, like I said before, 1033 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000 I try to find the funny situation 1034 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,000 where people don't think there is, you know? 1035 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,000 I always like to have, like, a light side on a serious note, 1036 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,000 you know. 1037 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,000 I'm telling you, he does not care, 1038 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000 and he does not feel sympathetic for what he did at all, 1039 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,000 and he's honestly the worst kind of person that this earth has. 1040 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,000 MOORE: Some people think that money crimes are victimless crimes. 1041 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,000 They're not. Yeah, you don't have somebody 1042 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,000 who's got a physical scar to show it, 1043 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,000 but you may have somebody who's had their life savings 1044 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,000 wiped out. 1045 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,000 ARIANNA: It hurt everybody that was involved. 1046 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,000 It sucks. I hate that this happened. 1047 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,000 And I just don't understand, 1048 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,000 because he was one of my best friends for years. 1049 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000 KATIE: It makes me mad that I feel like 1050 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000 I won't be able to see him become, 1051 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000 like, the full person he could have. 1052 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000 Like, I don't know if he'll ever be able 1053 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,000 to chase after those dreams 1054 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,000 he used to have of being a doctor, things like that. 1055 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000 I just don't know if that's even, like, 1056 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000 a possibility anymore. 1057 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,000 ♪♪ 1058 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:57,000 [ Beethoven's "Sonata No. 14 'Quasi una fantasia'" plays ] 1059 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,000 ARBAB: Of course I feel remorse. 1060 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000 I mean, most of the investors are my friends and family, 1061 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000 very close friends and family, 1062 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,000 but my biggest regrets were not being completely honest 1063 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000 about it. 1064 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,000 [ Playing continues ] 1065 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000 I'm just gonna keep doing what I do. 1066 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000 MAN: Gonna keep working? 1067 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000 Mm. Keep grinding. 1068 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,000 [ Playing continues ] 1069 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000 I still have a few more years of learning to do. 1070 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,000 Hopefully I can still go along that path 1071 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000 and try to make my father proud, you know? 1072 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:38,000 [ Playing continues ] 1073 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,000 My hope is for someone who's viewing this 1074 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,000 to essentially take into light everything I did and not just, 1075 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,000 like, say, "Damn. he lived, like, a really sick life." 1076 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,000 You know, I want them to essentially focus 1077 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000 on the mistakes I made, 1078 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000 expand on it without making the same mistakes I did. 1079 00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:01,000 [ Playing continues ] 1080 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:08,000 ♪♪ 1081 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,000 [ Playing stops ] 1082 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:23,000 ♪♪ 1083 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:35,000 ♪♪ 1084 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:47,000 ♪♪ 1085 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:59,000 ♪♪ 79444

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