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I came to London in March of 1970.
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There's something about my life
about getting to places slightly late.
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I went to Apple for
some reason or other.
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They had already done
the concert on the roof. I missed that.
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And the building
was kind of hollow and empty.
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And then, all of a sudden, it was over.
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The small gathering on Savile Row
is only the beginning.
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The event is so momentous
that historians may one day view it
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as a landmark in the decline
of the British Empire.
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The Beatles are breaking up.
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The Beatles have changed so many lives
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that the need for them still exists.
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The hope that they
represent still exists.
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And as long as that exists
then they have to exist.
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We're all in it together.
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If the Beatles don't exist,
you don't exist.
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It was a horrible feeling
that it might be all over.
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They inspired that whole generation
to go and conquer the world.
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The whole youth culture
could not have happened without them.
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What I feared was the establishment
was gonna claw back pop music
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to where it had been pre-Beatles.
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Awful, awful light entertainment.
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I've been sitting here all day
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Thinking
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As we got into 1971,
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you could see they did not want
the counterculture.
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They did not want youth movements.
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It was them and us.
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Now my days are gone
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Memories linger on
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Thoughts of when I was boy
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The dream's over.
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- In 1971...
- Music said something.
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The world was changing.
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We were creating the
21st century in 1971.
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Myself and, I guess,
a certain contingent of musicians
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at the beginning of the '70s
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wanted to manufacture
a new kind of vocabulary
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about what rock music was
and could become.
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The history of rock could be recycled
in a different way.
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We were fed up with the hippies.
We wanted to go somewhere else.
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I was writing for Rolling Stone,
and a friend of mine
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who had become the West Coast publicist
for Mercury Records called and asked
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if I wanted to interview
this obscure English artist
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that they were trying to publicize
because he was unknown.
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I'd never heard of him.
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And he sent me
The Man Who Sold The World...
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which I didn't really like
very much at all,
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but I wasn't about to turn down
a trip to San Francisco.
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So I went.
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I remember he emerged from the plane
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and he was wearing a dress
and carrying a purse.
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And I felt terribly intimidated.
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You know, he was really pretty.
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KSTN,
KSTN-FM Stockton. Your official station.
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David is with us. How you doin', David?
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- Good to see you.
- Thank you very much.
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Have you been in this country before?
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No, it's the first time in the States.
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- Wow. How do you like it so far?
- Yeah. Great. Incredible.
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It says here
that you are one of those Englishmen
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who has happened upon the pop scene
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and just captured
the hearts and minds of...
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...minds of nearly all
of the audiences that have heard him.
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- Isn't that wonderful?
- Wow. Yeah.
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- Did you know that? Yeah.
- I'm quite a guy.
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I mean, being truthful, his career
was not doing well in those days.
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He was kind of a cult artist,
and his sales weren't that high at all.
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After we made The Man
Who Sold The World,
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he went with a manager
called Tony Defries.
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And Tony Defries didn't like the album.
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And he sacked our band.
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Even me. I lost him. I lost contact
with him for at least a year.
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The idea was to create a new entity.
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We were deconstructing David
and reconstructing Bowie.
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That was the footing we were on in 1971.
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I'm reading this bio here
because I just received it here.
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And some interesting things
about you here.
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Did you know this,
that your name was David Robert Jones...
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Oh, yeah.
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...but that Davy Jones
of the Monkees claimed the name...
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- Yeah.
- ...and you became David Bowie.
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There was one party
in the Hollywood Hills
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that was intended to introduce him
to the LA cognoscenti,
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but the cognoscenti were greatly
outnumbered by these starlet types.
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And they didn't know
what to make of him.
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They were incredulous.
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A guy in a dress
sitting in the lotus position
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singing Jacques Brel songs.
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I kind of wished that he'd consulted
with me, because I...
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I would've said, "No Jacques Brel.
They're not gonna get it."
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And they didn't.
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An hour into the party, everyone hearing
that an Andy Warhol superstar
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was having a party up the road,
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everybody essentially left
the Bowie party...
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including Bowie.
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I don't know what all that was about.
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I landed there, and I found that
all I could do was radio shows...
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and the odd private house where I
would play for whoever we could get in.
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So I can't really
give you an honest opinion
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of what I thought of American audiences
because I didn't see any.
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The music industry
has not been easy on weirdos ever.
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And in 1971,
he was struggling very much.
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Trying to find where he was going,
whether he ever would.
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He'd been rejected and rejected, he'd
made records that hadn't gone anywhere,
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and then just been ridiculed
as a freak in a dress.
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Most people would've given up.
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By then,
everything was so polarized in America.
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People had burnt out,
and they're cynical and they're angry.
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The "peace and flowers" love thing
was well over.
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Looking back on it now,
it's hard to understand how bad it was.
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The jury hearing the charges
against Charles Manson
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and three girl members
of his so-called "Family"
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brought in its verdict this afternoon.
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All were found guilty of murder
in the first degree.
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To his family of followers,
Manson was a kind of god.
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But to the California police,
he was something quite different.
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A car thief, pimp and Satanist
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who'd masterminded eight murders,
at least.
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Members of the so-called "Family"
talked to a BBC 24 Hours team
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soon after Manson had been arrested.
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Well, when I first met him,
the man talked to me,
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and he says, "Why don't you come up?
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And the rules are that, you know,
there is no rules."
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This drawing is a drawing of awareness.
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And I think that Charles Manson
is the most totally aware person alive.
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You tried to show Charlie your picture?
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But sadly enough, you know, like, he's
aware of everything that's truly evil
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as well as everything that's truly good,
and I feel that he's a victim.
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At that point in time
if you had long hair,
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you were judged immediately.
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You were a drug addict. You were a
freak. You were an enemy of the state.
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So parents and children
hated each other.
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America, there's a phenomenon
of parents thinking that...
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that they depict
satanic qualities in children.
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And really,
they don't like their children.
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So many parents really hate their
children in the United States.
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Did you read in the paper the other day
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about that father in a western state?
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His son grew long hair,
and the father got angry.
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The son refused to cut it,
and he went into the bedroom
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and got a shotgun and shot his son dead.
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Just over long hair.
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We moved to LA when it was
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all groovy, peace and love,
flowers and bubbles,
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and people thought
that we were kind of a joke
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as we looked so, you know, heavy and
sinister and threatening and everything.
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And then Charles Manson happened,
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and the demise of the Beatles happened.
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The timing just fell into place
for what we were doing.
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Right now there's a young man
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who calls himself Alice Cooper on stage.
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The hippie thing, I thought,
was extremely phony.
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I just thought it got syrupy as hell.
"Everybody love everybody."
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You know, 'cause everybody was on drugs.
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Come on. You know, quit bullshitting.
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You know, this thing is really stupid.
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We had been concentrating
on doing this avant-garde music.
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We didn't even try to write hit singles
until it became obvious
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that we weren't gonna be eating
unless we did.
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You know, Alice has always been
very hip to what's happening,
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and we knew
that we wanted to appeal to kids.
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And we were thinking,
"What is the target audience
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for record-buying public in America?"
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And it was 18 years old.
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Okay, here on The Barry Richards Thing,
we have Alice Cooper with us,
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and that's the name
of the whole group, right?
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- Yeah.
- It's also your name.
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- Yes, it's my name.
- Are you gonna do "Eighteen?"
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Yeah, yeah, "Eighteen."
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All right, this is the new 45
from Alice Cooper, "Eighteen."
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We were shocked that it was a hit.
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But it was so simple and so "duh"
that it worked on the radio.
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And the song was giving
the 18-year-old guy, at least, a voice.
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Lines form on my face and hands
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Lines form from the ups and downs
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I'm in the middle without any plans
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I'm a boy and I'm a man
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I'm eighteen
And I don't know what I want
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Eighteen
I just don't know what I want
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Eighteen, I gotta get away
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I've gotta get outta this place
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I'll go runnin' in outer space
Oh yeah
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For years now,
the young have been drifting away
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to a world of their own,
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unable or unwilling to accept
what the established order has to offer.
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They wonder aloud about a system
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that produces material riches
and creates emotional poverty.
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A system that leaves many of its young
with no sense of self-worth,
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no sense of importance in the home,
no useful role in society.
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'Cause I'm eighteen
I get confused every day
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Eighteen
I just don't know what to say
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When you have that hit single
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it's the Willy Wonka golden key because
it means you're generating money.
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And so everybody's listening now,
and you're not this freak show.
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You're suddenly viable.
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We represented the
great disenfranchised.
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It was a new audience.
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Britain, so they say, is now rather like
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the morning after the night before.
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The party's well and truly over.
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The image or, if you like, myth
of the swinging '60s
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has given way to the sober '70s.
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We've grown up a little, all of us.
And there has been a change,
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and we are a bit freer and all that,
but it's the same game.
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Nothing's really changed, you know.
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People are living in fucking poverty
with fucking rats crawling over 'em.
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It's the same, only I'm 30 and a lot of
people have got long hair, that's all.
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Three boys in their early teens,
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and one aged 11,
growing up in the East End of London.
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Already these four lives
are lives at risk.
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Already the future shadows them.
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Do you ever think about
getting old and everything like that?
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Think about? I am old.
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I already think I'm old, you know.
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For the new generation coming in,
there was a vacuum.
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Bands like the Stones, and the Who,
and obviously the Beatles,
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had led us through the '60s.
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But the younger generation
were looking to find what they loved.
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The younger kids
feel really kind of neglected, you know.
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They haven't got their own music.
They haven't got their own culture.
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They haven't got a say yet in anything.
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I remember seeing
A Hard Day's Night in Brooklyn,
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and I saw that London
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where it was the Beatles going
to drinking clubs
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and gambling clubs and all that.
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And I was very
disappointed when I arrived
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to see that the UK
was pretty old-fashioned.
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It was actually quite a drab place.
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It was time to come up
with something different,
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but the Beatles were
a hard act to follow.
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The thing is,
the Beatles weren't just a pop group.
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They weren't popular entertainers.
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They were artists
in the real sense of the word.
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So as we got into 1971,
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if you were a pop group
with screaming girls
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you were not gonna get good reviews
in Melody Maker and NME.
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The musical snobbery
was really growing at that time.
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It's much more fulfilling nowadays
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because the audiences
are much more educated.
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The people are very aware.
Even some of the chicks are aware
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of what kind of strings and things
are used
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on certain bass guitars
and things like that.
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Love comes to you and you follow
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Bands were taking themselves
a bit too seriously.
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They were becoming slightly pretentious,
overblown.
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And it was rather frowned on by some of
the more superior rock critics
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to have hit singles.
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Sharp distance
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When I started on Radio 1,
I was given an acetate of a single
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that I could take onto my first program
and play as an exclusive.
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And it was "Ride a White Swan."
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He was one of the few people
at that moment
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who was driven to appeal
to 13, 14, 15-year-olds.
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There was very few people
making good singles, I think, you know.
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So that's when I figured
I ought to make some singles.
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'Cause I like singles. It's, like,
a three-minute adrenaline buzz.
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Wear a tall hat like a druid
In the old days
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Wear a tall hat and a tattooed gown
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Ride a white swan
Like the people of the Beltane
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Wear your hair long, babe
You can't go wrong
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Catch a bright star
And a-place it on your forehead
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Say a few spells
And baby, there you go
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Take a black cat
And a-sit it on your shoulder
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And in the morning you'll know
All you know, oh
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After David went with Tony Defries,
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I just blanked him
from my consciousness.
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And Marc was the one I went with.
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They were friends, not that they were
in collusion with each other,
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but they both started playing
at the same time
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with their image as pop stars.
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Marc was a chameleon.
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When I first met him, he was a hippie
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sitting playing an acoustic guitar
on a Persian rug, you know.
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He had emerged in '65 when he was a mod.
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And now Marc was beginning to move across
into that blurred line, androgynous look.
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A sort of embryonic
'70s rock and roll style.
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I always remember hearing
"Ride a White Swan" on the radio
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and thinking that he was amazing.
And then seeing him.
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And he was the first person to really
wear the eye shadow and do the glam thing.
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And that's how he walked around.
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That was Marc in the street,
when he came to dinner.
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And everything that Marc did was fun.
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It was a time when most of the
rock and roll bands
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were very masculine.
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The idea of dressing androgynously
was new and refreshing.
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But, you know, when it came to music,
he had a '50s mind.
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He jumped back a generation,
playing Chuck Berry guitar.
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And he was writing rock and roll songs.
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When "White Swan" was a hit,
I realized that something was changing.
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You know,
the kids were getting a bit younger,
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and they were selling out the concerts.
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Which they hadn't done before,
to be honest.
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And then I put out "Hot Love"
and it went straight to number one.
295
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And then all the audiences were...
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were predominantly chicks mostly...
after my balls.
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Which was very cute.
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Well, she's my woman of gold
And she's not very old, ah ha ha
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She's my woman of gold
And she's not very old, ah ha ha
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I don't mean to be bold
But may I hold your hand?
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Once Marc got his first hit single
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the hippie emphasis on spirituality
was virtually abandoned.
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And he started to be very sexual.
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Well, she ain't no witch
And I love the way she twitch, ah ha ha
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I'm her twopenny prince
And I give her hot love
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I talked with some of the fans
that came to see the shows.
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A lot of 12, 13, 14, 15-year-old girls.
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And I asked, "What is it about Marc?"
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And some of them
were crying in their efforts
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to express their emotion for him.
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I've come out of the front door
of the Newcastle City Hall
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to speak with some of the people
who saw the concert tonight.
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- Did you enjoy it?
- He was gentle and pretty...
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What particularly do
you like about them?
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They're just lovely, and gorgeous...
316
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- Did you enjoy the concert tonight?
- And I think he's got beautiful hair.
317
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- You enjoyed it did you?
- It was lovely!
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For the younger girls, you know,
the new generation coming in,
319
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he was just so exciting
because they wanted liberation.
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Liberation of expression
and liberation of thought.
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Yet another row about sex education.
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The schoolchildren and their parents,
their teachers, are all, today,
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in the middle of an atmosphere
where information about sex
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has never been freer.
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The upheaval that followed
the making by Dr. Martin Cole
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of the sex education film for
adolescents called Growing Up
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has opened, once again,
all the old thorny debates
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about just how much children
want and need to know,
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ought to be told,
by whom and at what age.
330
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Boys and girls
often have sexual intercourse
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long before they are
ready to have babies.
332
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Beneath the bebop moon
333
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There is nothing wrong with this,
and many people believe
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that sexual experience in adolescents
is essential for normal development.
335
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People have been getting along very well
since the dawn of time...
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without sex education.
337
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And why, in the last four or five years,
has this been thrust upon us?
338
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Early in adolescence, a boy will notice
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that he can become sexually excited.
340
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I was shocked by the sheer
clinical joylessness of the film.
341
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Sex should be fun, it should be
thrilling, it should be exciting.
342
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And that film, I think,
might almost put people off for life.
343
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People want to know the facts.
344
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I like the straightforward approach.
345
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And I think this is what's necessary.
We don't want your morals.
346
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But now you're 15.
347
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What is it you want to know about sex
that any teacher can tell you?
348
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It's the positions. Stuff like that.
349
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And the way how it's done.
350
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You want technical instructions?
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Yeah.
352
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Do you want to know about relationships?
Emotion? Love?
353
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Well, it would be helpful.
354
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I had come to London
about a year before then.
355
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I basically left America because
I couldn't stand being there anymore.
356
00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:25,320
But it was also an odd time in London.
357
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The London underground press
was still in full ramp and swing.
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And Portobello was the scene.
359
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And yet, you know, Britain had
a conservative government then.
360
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People were trying to keep the lid on.
361
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,050
OZ magazine,
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like a number of other
underground publications in Britain,
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symbolized the clash between
two conflicting notions of morality.
364
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There can be few people these days
365
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,600
who haven't heard the phrase
"underground press."
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Frequently they are publications
which shock and offend many people.
367
00:23:58,690 --> 00:24:00,480
He's a journalist who started
368
00:24:00,570 --> 00:24:02,990
the controversial
underground magazine, OZ.
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00:24:03,070 --> 00:24:06,570
It seems to me there's an attitude
towards sex which is different.
370
00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:09,450
It's now become much more libertarian
and guiltless.
371
00:24:09,530 --> 00:24:12,950
OZ, for example,
is extraordinarily hard to read.
372
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,580
Not merely is it hung up on drugs
to an extent which is quite amazing
373
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to anyone who's not actually on drugs,
but it is physically difficult to read.
374
00:24:21,380 --> 00:24:23,590
OZ was another planet.
375
00:24:23,670 --> 00:24:27,890
Provocative, outrageous, sexual.
376
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:32,640
It was all consciously over the top.
377
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:36,060
I never gave it
a lot of serious credibility.
378
00:24:36,730 --> 00:24:40,980
But then somebody
got his or her nose out of joint
379
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that OZ had crossed a line
in terms of obscenity.
380
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I have several members
of the underground press
381
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here in London with me today.
382
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,530
I gather it's becoming
a hazardous occupation.
383
00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:54,330
Jim, you want to tell us about
the problems OZ has been having?
384
00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:55,750
Just before Christmas,
385
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:58,580
we had been busted big time
386
00:24:58,670 --> 00:25:02,920
after we'd invited schoolchildren
to help edit an issue of OZ.
387
00:25:08,010 --> 00:25:10,140
That issue was intended for
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00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:11,970
- young-ish readerships. It was...
- No, it wasn't.
389
00:25:12,050 --> 00:25:14,770
It was intended for the usual OZ
readerships. That's the whole point.
390
00:25:14,850 --> 00:25:16,680
The police are trying to say
it was intended
391
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to go into the schools specifically
and to disrupt schoolchildren.
392
00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:22,110
It was merely produced
by schoolchildren.
393
00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:25,570
We just got 'em 48 pages of, you know,
color and glossy paper
394
00:25:25,650 --> 00:25:27,240
and they could put in what they wanted.
395
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,740
And basically, that's what's got us
into all of this trouble.
396
00:25:35,950 --> 00:25:38,410
Well... we were quite shocked
397
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,830
with one or two things
that they wanted to do,
398
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,630
but whatever they wanted to do
was fine by us.
399
00:25:43,710 --> 00:25:46,300
And they all saw it
as a wonderful opportunity.
400
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,140
The judiciary and the government
still hadn't caught on
401
00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:58,480
that there had been a tectonic shift in
the way young people thought and acted.
402
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,060
OZ was doing the unthinkable,
403
00:26:02,150 --> 00:26:07,400
actually telling teenage kids,
"Don't get nervous about sex."
404
00:26:08,110 --> 00:26:13,410
At that time, conservatives of one sort
or another went completely berserk.
405
00:26:14,580 --> 00:26:18,040
At last,
the permissive society is under attack.
406
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:22,880
This Manchester rally reaffirms the
stand which Christians are taking
407
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,920
against the rising tide of pornography.
408
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,130
We believe in purity and love
in sexual life.
409
00:26:30,220 --> 00:26:33,680
We are especially concerned
about pornographic literature
410
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,640
on sale in this city.
411
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,310
Welling inside the British people
412
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:43,190
is the desire to rebuild
the moral fiber of this country,
413
00:26:43,270 --> 00:26:44,810
which has been under attack,
414
00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:47,320
There's no doubt about that.
It's been under attack.
415
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,070
People began to talk about this
as a turning point in society.
416
00:26:52,150 --> 00:26:55,990
It was a sort of crisis
of moral authority.
417
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,490
I was working as a secretary at OZ.
418
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:04,630
It just did feel that the establishment
was out to get them.
419
00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:08,630
Freedom of expression seemed to me
a basic human right.
420
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:12,880
You know, unarguably something
we had to defend,
421
00:27:12,970 --> 00:27:16,140
even if sometimes it went beyond
the bounds of what I liked.
422
00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:18,760
I really did not like the cover
of that issue.
423
00:27:18,850 --> 00:27:22,180
I thought, "How could Jim and Felix
have chosen that cover?"
424
00:27:22,270 --> 00:27:24,650
Look, we didn't think it through,
frankly.
425
00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:29,820
We had the idea of using the double
spread of the naked blue lesbians.
426
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,530
And when it was suggested,
we both began to laugh.
427
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,030
It was sort of erotic,
but it was just a fantasy, really.
428
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:40,450
But we hadn't even looked at it properly.
And then I noticed the blow job.
429
00:27:40,540 --> 00:27:42,660
And we said,
"Oh, we'll put one of the pictures
430
00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:45,500
of the schoolkids in front of that.
That'll settle that."
431
00:27:47,290 --> 00:27:49,920
We had already been charged with
publishing obscene material,
432
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,760
which was just a very minor charge.
433
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,510
But they had decided to up the ante
434
00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:57,340
in changing it to a very serious offense
435
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:59,470
of conspiracy to corrupt public morals.
436
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,350
To implant in the minds of children
437
00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:04,600
improper and unsavory desires,
or something like that.
438
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,940
We think it's disgusting fascism.
439
00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:11,820
And Yoko and I are gonna propose to
Richard Neville, so then he can marry us,
440
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:14,650
and then he'd be British
and they can't deport him.
441
00:28:14,740 --> 00:28:16,860
So that's solved that one.
442
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:19,950
It was amazing how much support
there was in the youth
443
00:28:20,030 --> 00:28:22,160
and artists and musicians.
444
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,160
Bands were part of the counterculture.
They were part of us.
445
00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:28,710
And I think a lot of the music reflected
446
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:31,710
the complex position
of our younger generation.
447
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:41,600
Don't you know you're driving
Your mamas and papas insane?
448
00:28:44,350 --> 00:28:48,060
Oh, you pretty things
449
00:28:48,150 --> 00:28:53,400
Don't you know you're driving
Your mamas and papas insane?
450
00:28:54,650 --> 00:28:56,610
Let me make it plain
451
00:28:56,700 --> 00:29:00,660
Gotta make way for the Homo Superior
452
00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:03,330
Look out at your children
453
00:29:03,410 --> 00:29:06,410
See their faces in golden rays
454
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:10,000
Don't kid yourself they belong to you
455
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000
They're the start of the coming race
456
00:29:13,090 --> 00:29:16,590
The earth is a bitch
We've finished our news
457
00:29:16,670 --> 00:29:20,640
Homo Sapiens have outgrown their use
458
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,850
All the strangers came today
459
00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:27,480
And it looks as though
They're here to stay
460
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:35,320
I'd just got back from America.
461
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,110
And I'd just moved to Haddon Hall
in Beckenham.
462
00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:42,450
And everything seemed all systems go.
463
00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:44,740
"All right, I understand
what I've got to do now."
464
00:29:45,410 --> 00:29:49,120
At the weekends
we'd be down at Haddon Hall.
465
00:29:49,210 --> 00:29:53,000
And David was just busy
writing his songs, always.
466
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,710
By then, he was already
starting work on the new album.
467
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,840
And, you know, David was absorbing.
468
00:29:59,930 --> 00:30:01,430
I mean, he was like a sponge,
469
00:30:01,510 --> 00:30:06,140
taking what he needed from other people
and making it his own.
470
00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:10,640
For me, it felt like absolutes
were breaking down.
471
00:30:10,730 --> 00:30:15,610
As much as I admired artists who perceived
music as being all of their life,
472
00:30:15,690 --> 00:30:18,990
for me, personally, I wanted to do
something more, something broader,
473
00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:20,780
which brought in other art forms.
474
00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:25,410
And make rock more representative
of what contemporary culture felt like.
475
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,800
The '60s were a coda
to the rest of the century.
476
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,180
It was like the questions
were raised then,
477
00:30:42,260 --> 00:30:46,470
but still, there was an idealism
which, in itself, had its own absolutes.
478
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,770
And its own belief that there was
an answer to particular things.
479
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:57,020
And I think the '70s showed conclusively
that everything we knew was wrong.
480
00:31:01,530 --> 00:31:03,610
I think it's important
to point out the fact
481
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:06,330
that a culture is an experiment.
482
00:31:06,410 --> 00:31:08,540
It may work and it may not.
483
00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:11,370
And we have to start asking that
question about our own way of life.
484
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:18,170
People were born here, lived here,
485
00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:22,050
got married from here, brought
their own families up again here.
486
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:25,180
I don't think you'll ever get
the community feeling
487
00:31:25,260 --> 00:31:26,640
that we had here.
488
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,390
You'll never get it in flats
because they're not real.
489
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:33,770
This is all sort of artificial now.
490
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,660
In 1970, it was stated that there were
nearly two million unfit houses.
491
00:31:44,740 --> 00:31:48,240
A state of limbo,
when the present is not permanent
492
00:31:48,330 --> 00:31:51,370
and the future
only an unguaranteed promise.
493
00:31:51,450 --> 00:31:54,290
The children play in dirt and filth,
494
00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:56,920
and are happy because
they know no better.
495
00:31:59,170 --> 00:32:02,090
Me being a World War II baby,
496
00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:06,720
as time went by in my youth,
things just got better and better.
497
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:12,520
So I had no understanding
that things might get bad again.
498
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:16,440
People were trapped.
499
00:32:17,270 --> 00:32:19,570
And that's what the important thing
about glam rock is.
500
00:32:19,650 --> 00:32:23,940
They took this on and things changed,
things shifted.
501
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,030
Young kids have principles.
502
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:28,030
They don't like what their parents like,
503
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,780
and they don't even like
what their older siblings like.
504
00:32:31,790 --> 00:32:34,120
In 1971, all of a sudden
505
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,710
the more you glittered,
the bigger your personality.
506
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:44,260
T. Rex! T. Rex!
507
00:32:46,050 --> 00:32:48,510
"You've got the teeth of the hydra
upon you.
508
00:32:48,590 --> 00:32:52,010
You're dirty, sweet and you're my girl."
That's nice.
509
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:58,480
"Wear your unclean new vest
and shoes and cuffs full of eagles.
510
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,940
You're dirty, sweet and you're my girl."
511
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:06,360
"Get on.
Get it on, get it on, get it on."
512
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:17,370
Well, you're dirty and sweet
513
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:22,000
Clad in black, don't look back
And I love you
514
00:33:22,090 --> 00:33:25,670
You're dirty and sweet, oh yeah
515
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,720
Well, you're slim and you're weak
516
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,100
You've got the teeth
Of the hydra upon you
517
00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:37,060
You're dirty, sweet and you're my girl
518
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,570
Get it on, bang a gong, get it on
519
00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:52,320
Get it on, bang a gong, get it on
520
00:33:52,410 --> 00:33:55,080
He asked me to do Top of the
Pops and I said, "Absolutely."
521
00:33:55,740 --> 00:33:58,120
He wrote very simple,
classic rock 'n' roll.
522
00:33:58,210 --> 00:34:01,380
But Marc was so outrageously cocky
and fabulous.
523
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,550
He would come around and say,
"I sold a million records this morning."
524
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:06,510
And I went, "Great!
How fabulous for you."
525
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,340
Well, you're built like a car
526
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:12,140
My first experience
of seeing girls screaming
527
00:34:12,220 --> 00:34:15,050
was at a concert in Croydon.
528
00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:16,720
It suddenly exploded.
529
00:34:18,430 --> 00:34:21,440
I have some footage I took
on Super 8 film.
530
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,520
It's backstage, it's in black-and-white,
531
00:34:23,610 --> 00:34:26,070
and a girl is biting a piece
of Marc's hair.
532
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,400
That was the beginning of the craziness.
533
00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:36,450
Get it on, bang a gong, get it on
534
00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:39,500
Marc was like someone
who was traveling through.
535
00:34:39,580 --> 00:34:41,250
Get it on, bang a gong, get it on
536
00:34:41,330 --> 00:34:43,460
He was just stopping off for
a couple of years and then going away.
537
00:34:43,540 --> 00:34:45,590
And of course he went away too soon.
538
00:34:45,670 --> 00:34:47,460
I've been reading recently, Marc,
539
00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:51,260
an article which suggests that you are
the successor to the Beatles.
540
00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:53,390
Well, you're windy and wild
541
00:34:53,470 --> 00:34:57,810
You've got the blues in your shoes
And your stockings
542
00:34:57,890 --> 00:35:00,560
You're windy and wild, oh yeah
543
00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:05,110
Well, you're built like a car
544
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:09,530
You've got a hubcap diamond star halo
545
00:35:09,610 --> 00:35:12,610
You're dirty, sweet and you're my girl
546
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,030
"Sex is a part of it, but it's sex
547
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,250
by courtesy of the magic prince,"
and I presume that means you.
548
00:35:21,330 --> 00:35:23,330
"Who is going to
deflower the young virgin
549
00:35:23,420 --> 00:35:27,500
- in an atmosphere of blissful romance."
- That sounds nice. I like that.
550
00:35:27,590 --> 00:35:32,590
I am talking to a sick nation!
A sick nation!
551
00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:37,220
I think the whole
of what's called "Western civilization"
552
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:39,560
is totally decadent to the point
553
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:45,150
that I have no expectation whatever
that it will recover any moral sanity.
554
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,820
I was wondering which people
you thought you appealed to most,
555
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:50,900
or whether it's, you know,
really just young girls.
556
00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:53,110
They're not all just young girls here.
I mean, I think...
557
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,860
They are mostly young girls here, Marc.
558
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:56,780
Let's not get away from the fact.
I'd say there are 90% young girls.
559
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:58,580
Yeah, 200 people. You know.
560
00:35:58,660 --> 00:35:59,790
200 people.
561
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,460
I have nothing against them. I'm just
saying that they are mostly girls.
562
00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:07,290
It's very nice.
563
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,920
Marc was very pop.
564
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,220
And he loved it. He liked being a star.
565
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,130
But maybe the image
tripped him up in a way.
566
00:36:16,220 --> 00:36:18,140
It's very hard to straddle
567
00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:22,270
going from a pop sensibility
into being taken seriously.
568
00:36:22,350 --> 00:36:23,600
Really difficult.
569
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,400
But Marc Bolan enabled young guys
570
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,020
to see that they could
express themselves like that.
571
00:36:29,110 --> 00:36:31,440
That guys would now wear makeup.
572
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:35,320
Which had not been allowed before,
absolutely not.
573
00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:39,370
Unforgettable television experience
coming your way.
574
00:36:39,450 --> 00:36:43,620
This will either knock you out
or offend you, one of the two.
575
00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:45,410
We don't care which
as long as you react.
576
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:49,130
This is where we separate the teenagers
from the adults
577
00:36:49,210 --> 00:36:54,800
as we present the always outrageous
and sometimes offensive Alice Cooper.
578
00:36:59,390 --> 00:37:02,350
Our attitude was
you grab 'em by the throat.
579
00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:04,810
You're gonna talk about us tomorrow.
580
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:06,520
That was really our attitude.
581
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,190
We weren't gonna be subtle,
we were gonna be sensational.
582
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,570
It got to the point where
if you go to a concert,
583
00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:14,230
all you're gonna see is a guitar solo.
584
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,280
A drum solo.
You know, how far can that go?
585
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,240
You wanna see something
that you're gonna go home
586
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,910
and talk about
and scare your parents with.
587
00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:23,330
1971,
588
00:37:23,410 --> 00:37:26,960
that dark character
really started to take hold
589
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,250
and become the powerful image
of what we were doing.
590
00:37:38,050 --> 00:37:43,220
Body
591
00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:47,520
We would do the song
"Black Juju" with Alice in the makeup,
592
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,110
the spider eyes, and the middle of
the song would bring everything down.
593
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:54,980
Click, click, tick, tick.
594
00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:04,620
And Alice would be swinging a watch,
hypnotizing the audience.
595
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:14,090
Bodies need rest.
596
00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:22,340
We all need our rest.
597
00:38:25,010 --> 00:38:29,640
Sleep an easy sleep.
598
00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:34,480
Rest.
599
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,940
It didn't work every night.
600
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:39,320
Sometimes you'd hear hecklers,
601
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,740
but other nights
you could hear a pin drop.
602
00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:44,070
Rest.
603
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,700
Every single person
would be staring at Alice.
604
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:50,000
Rest.
605
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,920
Rest.
606
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,630
Give your evil soul... to yourself.
607
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,640
And open your eyes
and be rather than seem to be.
608
00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:10,680
But come on back to us.
609
00:39:11,350 --> 00:39:15,110
A form of conditioning
or reconditioning or restructuring
610
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:18,440
of... a group of young people
611
00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:22,780
to believe in crime,
and violence and murder.
612
00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:25,070
You have eyes. Open them.
613
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,840
After the show, people would come back
614
00:39:44,930 --> 00:39:47,760
and they would tell us
what that all meant.
615
00:39:50,350 --> 00:39:51,930
They had figured it all out.
616
00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:57,150
We wouldn't try to explain it because
there wasn't really an explanation
617
00:39:57,230 --> 00:40:00,980
other than, you know,
it's just a visual theatric, that's all.
618
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:05,660
But we had tapped into
this powerful thing.
619
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:17,420
Sometime in early '71,
the proposition was put to David
620
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:22,630
by the organizers of the Glastonbury
Fair that they'd like him to perform.
621
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:25,970
The train stopped miles
from where Glastonbury was.
622
00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:28,720
We had to walk to get to the place.
623
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,890
David's wearing his big floppy hat
624
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:35,310
and his floppy trousers
and his long hair.
625
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,770
We walk down the road
626
00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:43,820
and eventually we get to a field
where the festival is gonna happen.
627
00:40:44,570 --> 00:40:48,490
Which has turned into
pretty much unscheduled chaos.
628
00:40:49,450 --> 00:40:52,410
It tends to be a bit muddy.
Have you got any boots with you?
629
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,120
You do? Nice.
630
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
Very much looking forward to seeing you.
631
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,800
And see you later on tonight.
And it will be beautiful, I promise you.
632
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,530
Girl with a heart
That keeps on changing
633
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,120
Girl with a mind that's moving on
634
00:41:37,830 --> 00:41:41,290
Picking up on things
That life's afforded
635
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,970
Loosen up on teathers
Foreseen she's on
636
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,300
You don't know...
637
00:42:11,410 --> 00:42:15,490
Come on, now, keep on changing
638
00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:20,580
Come on, girl, little I want the jive
639
00:42:22,210 --> 00:42:26,710
Come on, love
'Cause it ain't gonna bother me
640
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,470
David went on early
in the morning of the next day.
641
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,100
At dawn.
642
00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:39,770
And he was gonna perform new material.
643
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,110
I think you know how
I feel at the moment.
644
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:44,190
It's...
645
00:42:44,610 --> 00:42:46,360
fucking cold as hell.
646
00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:51,280
It's gettin' a bit better.
647
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,160
We were there at 5:00 in the morning
648
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,990
and the sun was literally
just starting to peep up.
649
00:42:57,540 --> 00:42:59,040
And he's up there on the stage.
650
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:04,040
Most people were still asleep or heading
for a place to have a pee or something.
651
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,630
I still don't know
What I was waiting for
652
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:15,390
And my time was running wild
653
00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:18,350
A million dead-end streets and
654
00:43:20,180 --> 00:43:23,730
Every time I thought I'd got it made
655
00:43:24,770 --> 00:43:28,730
It seemed the taste was not so sweet
656
00:43:31,070 --> 00:43:36,070
Now I placed myself to face me
657
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,160
But I've never caught a glimpse
658
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,880
Of how the others must see the faker
659
00:43:51,130 --> 00:43:54,760
I'm much too fast to take the test
660
00:43:55,340 --> 00:43:58,510
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
661
00:44:01,430 --> 00:44:03,980
Ch-changes
662
00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:08,320
Don't have to be a richer man
663
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:12,030
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
664
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,410
Ch-changes
665
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,200
Just gonna be a different man
666
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:25,210
Time may change me
667
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,420
But I can't trace time
668
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:39,470
Thank you.
669
00:44:41,010 --> 00:44:42,020
Yeah.
670
00:44:43,730 --> 00:44:47,060
There are many people
who remember Glastonbury
671
00:44:47,150 --> 00:44:50,400
as being a landmark of Bowie.
672
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,690
It wasn't.
673
00:44:53,650 --> 00:44:58,320
As a songwriter, David was beginning
to realize who he was.
674
00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:05,830
But he hadn't discovered that ability
to project himself off of the stage.
675
00:45:15,220 --> 00:45:17,590
I was all ready to go
down to Glastonbury
676
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,470
when Richard said,
"Jim, the trial is on Monday.
677
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,730
You can't possibly go to Glastonbury,
take acid, and be ready for the trial."
678
00:45:25,810 --> 00:45:29,100
"Yes, that's okay. No problem.
I always can wing it. It's easy."
679
00:45:30,940 --> 00:45:33,440
So I reluctantly didn't go.
680
00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:37,490
That's how unseriously I took the trial.
681
00:45:37,570 --> 00:45:39,530
I thought it would just be
a piece of cake.
682
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:41,950
How wrong I was.
683
00:45:57,220 --> 00:45:59,680
Certain songs,
they stay with you forever.
684
00:46:00,340 --> 00:46:02,760
She was writing from her heart.
685
00:46:02,850 --> 00:46:06,560
We really were holding up
a mirror to our society.
686
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,600
The incredible feeling
of nothing's impossible.
687
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:12,900
Bowie came to New York.
688
00:46:12,980 --> 00:46:14,980
I was so single-minded.
689
00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:19,150
It didn't fit into the
mainstream society.
690
00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:22,450
It really felt like the new era.
691
00:46:22,530 --> 00:46:26,080
Christ. We are the future.
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