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In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups,
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the police who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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My kid wants 60
bucks for one card.
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Hey, we had baseball,
they got Pokémon.
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Hey, Thurman Munson
never cost me 60 bucks.
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Oh, man.
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What's the matter?
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Thing weighs a ton.
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Well, check it out. Could
be a computer or somethin'.
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Whatever it is, I want half.
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I don't think so.
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Male, 16. Wrapped up in a
blanket, then double bagged.
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Slashed once on the neck.
- Damn.
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So who is he?
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School ID from Jameson
High. Name's Chris Skinner.
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Mother called the precinct
last night, reported him missing.
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Here's his address.
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Columbus. About 10 blocks north.
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Anybody see the bag
get dumped? We're on it.
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Could've been dragged from
any one of these buildings.
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Or somebody drove
up with a delivery.
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Is that Chris?
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Who called her?
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Not us.
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What, she just showed
up? What a coincidence.
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Chris never came
home for dinner.
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I called his friends, looked
around the neighborhood.
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Then I called the police.
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They didn't find him.
And now he's dead.
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How did you happen to come to
the murder scene Ms. Skinner?
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A friend heard it on the news.
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A dead boy on 56th Street.
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Are you married, Ms. Skinner?
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Boyfriend?
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No. Why?
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These are just standard
questions, Ms. Skinner.
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I would never let
anyone hurt Chris.
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I need a cigarette.
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An officer will walk you out.
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When did patrol
get there last night?
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9:20. About 10 minutes
after she called 911.
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They canvassed the
neighborhood, searched his building.
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And the apartment?
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Yeah, and the car.
Nothing suspicious.
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Just a missing kid.
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Fax from the kid's school.
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Two years ago, he
came in all beat up.
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They called Children's Services.
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Chris and his mom said
he fell down some stairs.
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May be this time he
fell down on a knife.
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I make time of
death about 5:00 p.m.
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What's this on his arm?
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It's from yesterday. I'm
guessin' a grab mark.
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Or from getting banged
around in the bag?
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People don't bruise so
easy when they're dead.
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So you can't tell if he was
dragged, carried or beamed down.
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Any signs of abuse?
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Either that or he played
serious contact sports.
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Found some edema on
his right shoulder and side.
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He got popped a
couple of weeks ago.
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Not like this time.
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Interesting wound.
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At least a six-inch blade
based on the length of the cut.
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And I'm guessing a
blade with a wide curve.
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What, like a scythe?
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Well, whatever it was, it hacked
into his artery and he bled out.
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All over that blanket.
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Must've been washed recently.
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No hairs, no fingernails,
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no fibers that didn't
come from the blanket.
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And the garbage bags
are no good for prints.
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Good enough for dumpin' a body.
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Extra-large. Three-millimeter,
heavy duty, high-density polyethylene.
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Not something you'd
find in your kitchen.
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There were cigarette
ash and tobacco particles
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on the outside of the outer bag,
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stuck to some dried blood.
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What brand? American, menthol.
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Can't give you more until
we get it back from the lab.
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Stuff could have been
picked up on the sidewalk.
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Or a smoke after
to calm your nerves.
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Sorry to hear
the boy got killed,
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but I have to be at a
divorce hearing in an hour.
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I don't have time for
this. Make him wait.
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You hear any commotion in the
Skinner's apartment yesterday?
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Thick walls, okay? Only
good thing about this building.
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She have any
boyfriends staying over?
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I'm not interested in
the woman's sex life.
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Uh, did you ever hear
her get mad at her son?
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You think I stand in the
hall with my ear to the door?
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We love nosy
people. We gotta ask.
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Any idea what kind of
cigarettes she smokes?
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I've seen her at the
deli around the corner.
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Long brown hair. She smokes.
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She might have
come in with her son.
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I know them. They walk by
here to church every Sunday.
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She ever buy cigarettes here?
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Yeah. Uh, Deauville Lights.
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Not exactly American menthol.
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I saw 'em yesterday.
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When? About 4:15.
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He was out here with another
boy, selling candy bars for school.
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I sell candy too, so I
told 'em to go away.
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You know the other boy? No.
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What did he look like?
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Spanish kid. Uh, teenager.
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I'm sorry I yelled at them.
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Thanks.
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Maybe the kid sold
some bad candy.
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I just heard. My God.
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Uh, Chris was sellin'
chocolate bars for the school.
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The office pointed us
in your direction. Why?
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We figure he got killed
while he was hawkin' candy.
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Oh, I hope it wasn't that.
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Our Weightlifting Club just started
a fundraising drive yesterday.
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The boys were out
selling Neptune bars
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to, uh, raise money
for new equipment.
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Somebody else from the
club was with him yesterday.
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Could have been Terry Sanchez.
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When Chris joined
the club a month ago,
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Terry kind of took
him under his wing.
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You know, help pushed
him through his reps.
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Terry show up today?
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I think I saw him.
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We only sold like one candy
bar in about half an hour.
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Then the Korean guy ran us off.
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Where'd you and Chris go?
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We split up. Figured,
why stand on the street
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when I could sell a whole
box to my grandmother?
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And that's where you
were at five o'clock?
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Yeah. What about Chris?
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He was gonna sell door
to door above 56th Street.
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Why 56th?
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Said there was a big
building with no doorman.
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It'd be easy to get in.
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You and Chris were buddies, huh?
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Yeah, I guess
you could say that.
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I shoulda went with him.
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Maybe not.
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Is the doorman on a break?
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Yeah, since '96. Co-op board
decided they're too expensive.
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I'm the super.
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I'm Detective Briscoe.
This is Detective...
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Ooh-hoo! Two o'clock!
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Hey, follow the shiny badge.
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You see this kid
yesterday afternoon?
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May have been going door
to door with a box of candy?
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Uh, I wasn't here
yesterday afternoon.
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But I know that boy, all right.
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A couple of weeks ago,
right across the street,
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he was messin' with one
of the kids from the building.
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I ran after him. Had him
pushed up against the wall.
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Who was the kid
from the building?
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Uh, skinny kid.
Always wears black.
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Ryan Velardi, 12C.
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I got home right after school.
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But no one came
around sellin' candy.
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Where were your parents?
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At work. Like they are now.
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What about you? Is
this about the dead kid?
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What makes you think that?
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He was found right
down the street.
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Yeah, you guys know him?
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Nah.
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What school you go
to? Jameson High.
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Same school as Chris Skinner.
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I knew who he was. We
just never hung out together.
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How about a couple of weeks ago, when
he had you shoved up against the wall?
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Where'd you hear that?
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Look, maybe you should come
back when my parents get home.
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What's he got to hide?
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They'll be home from
work around 10:00.
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Why don't we call them?
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You can't reach them
now. We'll be back later.
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Charming pair.
Parents work till 10:00?
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Maybe they're cops.
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Hey, Lennie. What the hell?
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They won't have
bags that big up here.
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Couldn't fit a large pizza
box into one of these.
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Yeah?
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How about this?
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Neptune Bars. "Not for retail."
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I want my brother here.
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Ryan, relax. He's
right across the hall.
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Then why can't he come in?
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Don't worry about it.
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Just me and you.
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I didn't do anything.
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Mmm, you lied
about Chris Skinner.
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I'm not lying.
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Come on, man.
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The two of you had
beef. He chased you.
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I barely know the kid.
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You saw him after school
on Thursday. I didn't.
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So it was just a coincidence
that he was sellin' candy
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on your floor at the
same time he got killed?
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Yeah, I guess.
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Don't play me!
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You really think you're gonna
get up and walk outta here?
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You and your brother
both are down with this.
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You got him to help you drag
the bag downstairs, didn't you?
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No.
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Come on, man. We're getting
fingerprints off your door.
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You're lyin' to me,
you're goin' to Rikers.
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I'm only 16.
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Mmm-hmm. And they got a place
for little boys like you out there.
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You think you're scared now,
wait'll they get a hold of your little ass.
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I'm not saying anything
till I talk to my brother.
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I wasn't even home on Thursday.
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What time did you
get in? Like 6:30.
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Your brother mention anything
about Chris Skinner comin' around?
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He told you, he
hardly knows him.
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He was havin' problems
with this kid, wasn't he?
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What kind of problems?
Come on, Ricky.
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We got a witness who saw
Chris goin' after your brother.
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I don't really get all involved
in my brother's social life.
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Maybe there's somethin'
goin' on with him.
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Like what? You gotta ask him.
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What kind of knives
do you and Ryan have?
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We don't have any knives.
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Mr. Velardi's lawyer.
Uh, interview's over.
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Unless you have some
evidence I don't know about.
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Let's go.
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We searched their apartment.
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No blood, no bags and no prints.
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We know the victim was up there.
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His prints were
on the candy box.
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Could be coincidence.
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Ryan had motive. The
dead kid was hassling him.
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One witness, one incident.
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Are you saying my son
was bullying this boy?
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High school can
be a rough place.
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Sometimes you gotta act
tough to keep the wolves at bay.
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Chris wouldn't hurt
anyone. I'm sure of that.
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Our M.E. said he
was all bruised up.
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He was?
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Did he mention being in a fight?
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Ever get a call from the school?
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Detention? Anything like that?
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No.
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But Chris wasn't doing all
that well when school started.
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I just thought he
didn't like his teachers.
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When you say he
wasn't doing well...
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He didn't really talk to me.
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But the last few weeks,
he seemed a lot better.
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Around the time he joined
the Weightlifting Club.
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Chris was lifting weights?
251
00:10:57,490 --> 00:10:58,958
He'd never done that before?
252
00:10:59,325 --> 00:11:00,418
No.
253
00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:02,519
Anything else unusual going on?
254
00:11:05,865 --> 00:11:10,894
I found a pamphlet on his
desk about conflict resolution.
255
00:11:11,304 --> 00:11:15,241
I thought it was just something that
they gave everybody at his school.
256
00:11:16,943 --> 00:11:19,208
I meant to ask him about it.
257
00:11:19,279 --> 00:11:21,339
I was just so busy lately.
258
00:11:25,218 --> 00:11:27,016
Are you going to be okay, ma'am?
259
00:11:27,854 --> 00:11:29,322
I don't know.
260
00:11:35,962 --> 00:11:38,932
So the student has a problem, he sits
down with a group of peer counselors.
261
00:11:38,998 --> 00:11:40,432
They try and talk it out.
262
00:11:40,633 --> 00:11:42,693
And if that doesn't work,
they grab their guns.
263
00:11:42,769 --> 00:11:46,672
I hate to disappoint you, Detective,
but Jameson's a magnet school.
264
00:11:46,739 --> 00:11:50,107
We don't really have the violence
prevalent in bigger city schools.
265
00:11:50,176 --> 00:11:52,668
If a kid requested intervention,
would you know about it?
266
00:11:52,745 --> 00:11:53,940
I'm supposed to.
267
00:11:54,013 --> 00:11:55,140
Chris Skinner?
268
00:11:55,648 --> 00:11:58,618
Uh, no. Chris was in my math
class, but he never came here.
269
00:11:58,685 --> 00:11:59,846
He had one of your handouts.
270
00:11:59,919 --> 00:12:01,717
Any sense of what
was bothering him?
271
00:12:02,689 --> 00:12:06,126
There's a lot of tension between
the various cliques, you know?
272
00:12:06,192 --> 00:12:09,560
The jocks diss the freaks.
The hip-hop kids diss the nerds.
273
00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:11,425
Any fights?
274
00:12:11,497 --> 00:12:13,728
Uh, not that I'm aware of.
275
00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,099
The psychological
torture can get pretty nasty.
276
00:12:16,169 --> 00:12:18,468
It can drive a weak
kid to self-destruct.
277
00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:20,301
Or to destruct some other kid.
278
00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,274
Was Chris in one of
the cliques? I'm not sure.
279
00:12:23,343 --> 00:12:25,403
What about a kid
named Ryan Velardi?
280
00:12:26,546 --> 00:12:27,809
I don't recognize that name.
281
00:12:28,114 --> 00:12:30,015
Dark greasy hair, black clothes.
282
00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:33,076
Mascara, black nail
polish? He'd be a Goth.
283
00:12:33,353 --> 00:12:34,582
Just black clothes.
284
00:12:34,821 --> 00:12:36,585
Oh, then he'd be
with the freaks.
285
00:12:43,563 --> 00:12:45,031
I just lost my appetite.
286
00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:46,862
We just have a few questions.
287
00:12:46,933 --> 00:12:48,697
This has gotta be
about Chris Skinner.
288
00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:51,863
It's about Ryan Velardi. He
hangs out with you guys, right?
289
00:12:52,238 --> 00:12:53,238
Sometimes.
290
00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:55,798
He's got a PlayStation
and some ill video games.
291
00:12:55,875 --> 00:12:57,844
He ever have any
problems with Skinner?
292
00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:59,606
Aside from Chris being a geek?
293
00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,156
It sounds like you and
Skinner didn't get along.
294
00:13:01,180 --> 00:13:02,910
We didn't have
anything to do with him.
295
00:13:02,982 --> 00:13:04,951
He didn't have any
classes with you?
296
00:13:05,018 --> 00:13:06,987
Ask Jon. He's in Special Ed.
297
00:13:07,053 --> 00:13:08,851
Shut up.
298
00:13:08,921 --> 00:13:11,390
We didn't hate him or
anything. He was just shallow.
299
00:13:11,457 --> 00:13:12,789
Practically a skater-oid.
300
00:13:12,859 --> 00:13:14,350
A what? BOY: A skater.
301
00:13:14,694 --> 00:13:16,663
You know, baggy
pants, no brains.
302
00:13:16,896 --> 00:13:18,696
Ah, that would make
him stand out around here.
303
00:13:18,731 --> 00:13:19,926
Thanks.
304
00:13:21,634 --> 00:13:23,178
I bummed a cigarette
off Chris a few times,
305
00:13:23,202 --> 00:13:24,546
but he didn't really
hang out with us.
306
00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:26,971
Did he ever say anything
about Ryan Velardi?
307
00:13:27,106 --> 00:13:28,369
He was kind of quiet.
308
00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:30,534
Maybe Chris had a
grudge against him.
309
00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:32,406
Is that what the
freaks told you?
310
00:13:32,478 --> 00:13:34,743
We think Chris was
pickin' on this Velardi kid.
311
00:13:34,914 --> 00:13:36,439
Doesn't sound like him.
312
00:13:36,649 --> 00:13:38,948
Chris was in my
Modern Lit class.
313
00:13:39,018 --> 00:13:40,884
He was like, you
know, sensitive.
314
00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:42,648
Sensitive?
315
00:13:42,722 --> 00:13:44,520
He was. When we did poetry,
316
00:13:44,590 --> 00:13:47,025
he recited a Kurt
Cobain song in class.
317
00:13:47,093 --> 00:13:48,789
When did he start pumpin' iron?
318
00:13:48,995 --> 00:13:50,861
Serious? Chris Skinner lifting?
319
00:13:51,764 --> 00:13:54,427
I guess you don't really know
what anybody's really like inside.
320
00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:56,934
So there's nothing
between him and the freaks?
321
00:13:57,036 --> 00:13:58,527
We would've heard something.
322
00:13:58,705 --> 00:13:59,900
Thanks for your help.
323
00:13:59,972 --> 00:14:03,773
Chris asks about counseling,
he starts some weight lifting.
324
00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:06,573
I don't see the bully. I'm
seein' the 98 pound weakling.
325
00:14:06,646 --> 00:14:09,013
I just wonder who
kicked sand in his face.
326
00:14:10,450 --> 00:14:13,045
Chris started showin' up to
work out like a month ago.
327
00:14:13,119 --> 00:14:15,350
Why a sudden interest
in body building?
328
00:14:15,421 --> 00:14:18,823
Said he wanted to get cut. Then maybe
the jerks in school would leave him alone.
329
00:14:18,891 --> 00:14:20,792
Which jerks are
we talkin' about?
330
00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:22,920
Hey, man, in this
place? Take your pick.
331
00:14:22,995 --> 00:14:24,475
Between you and
me, what do you think?
332
00:14:28,968 --> 00:14:30,163
I don't know.
333
00:14:31,838 --> 00:14:33,431
Who you protecting?
334
00:14:33,539 --> 00:14:34,739
The kid who killed your buddy?
335
00:14:37,043 --> 00:14:39,376
I think Chris was having
some problems with the freaks.
336
00:14:39,445 --> 00:14:40,777
Who in particular?
337
00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:42,443
There's like 10 or 12 of them.
338
00:14:43,116 --> 00:14:44,379
We need the names.
339
00:14:48,354 --> 00:14:50,721
You talked to my
son at school already.
340
00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:53,135
Look, we just need to ask a
couple of follow-up questions.
341
00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:55,185
Uh-huh. You think
Jon's involved?
342
00:14:55,261 --> 00:14:57,059
I'll take care of it, Sandra.
343
00:14:59,932 --> 00:15:02,128
The boy's body was found
just down the block from here.
344
00:15:02,201 --> 00:15:04,432
It's probably a coincidence
but we need to check it out.
345
00:15:04,504 --> 00:15:05,802
Well, what do you want to know?
346
00:15:05,872 --> 00:15:07,431
We'd rather talk to him.
347
00:15:07,507 --> 00:15:09,373
Right now, you'll
have to talk to me.
348
00:15:09,876 --> 00:15:11,936
Where was your son
Thursday afternoon?
349
00:15:13,146 --> 00:15:15,411
He needs an alibi?
That'd be a start.
350
00:15:15,715 --> 00:15:18,275
Well, I think I'd like
to see a lawyer first.
351
00:15:18,818 --> 00:15:21,253
I gotta tell you, you're not
helping your boy like this.
352
00:15:21,454 --> 00:15:22,979
Do you have a business card?
353
00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:28,786
Detective Green, um,
354
00:15:28,861 --> 00:15:31,490
I'll call you when Jon's ready
to be interviewed, all right?
355
00:15:31,964 --> 00:15:33,330
Good night.
356
00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:36,299
Bingo.
357
00:15:36,369 --> 00:15:38,668
Maybe somebody up
here bought a Neptune bar.
358
00:15:39,672 --> 00:15:42,005
I was home all day
Thursday. Why?
359
00:15:42,074 --> 00:15:45,306
Anybody come to your door
around five, six o'clock sellin' candy?
360
00:15:45,478 --> 00:15:47,140
No. You know the Telfords?
361
00:15:47,547 --> 00:15:49,709
Who, the family down
the hall? Not really.
362
00:15:50,183 --> 00:15:52,311
Those Bronco Menthols?
Yeah, man. You want one?
363
00:15:52,585 --> 00:15:54,053
Yeah, for later.
364
00:15:54,253 --> 00:15:55,915
You ever smoke out
here in the hallway?
365
00:15:55,988 --> 00:15:57,718
My wife won't let me
smoke in the apartment.
366
00:15:57,790 --> 00:15:59,122
Yeah? Where do you go?
367
00:16:00,226 --> 00:16:02,354
She makes me stand out here.
368
00:16:04,397 --> 00:16:06,389
You always leave
your butts on the floor?
369
00:16:06,532 --> 00:16:09,127
I know, I know. Super's
been on me about it.
370
00:16:09,202 --> 00:16:11,330
Says he always has
to mop up after me.
371
00:16:12,104 --> 00:16:14,471
I throw him an extra 20
around Christmas, you know.
372
00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:17,635
You hear anything unusual goin'
on out here Thursday afternoon?
373
00:16:17,844 --> 00:16:21,212
I'm a percussionist. I've been
workin' on some new material, man.
374
00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,306
I wouldn't have
heard a cannon go off.
375
00:16:24,016 --> 00:16:25,985
The cigarette ash we
found in the stairwell
376
00:16:26,052 --> 00:16:29,511
matches the tobacco residue
on the outer garbage bag.
377
00:16:29,589 --> 00:16:32,753
The Telford kid dragged the body
down the stairs and onto the street.
378
00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:34,487
Plus, the kid won't
give us an alibi.
379
00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,324
Or his father won't
give him a chance.
380
00:16:36,395 --> 00:16:37,693
What do we have for motive?
381
00:16:37,763 --> 00:16:40,209
The Telford kid's clique at school
was giving Chris Skinner a hard time.
382
00:16:40,233 --> 00:16:42,862
He started pumping iron so
maybe they'd stop hassling him.
383
00:16:42,935 --> 00:16:46,167
I'll talk to Carmichael. It sounds
like enough for a search warrant.
384
00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:49,079
Where's your son's bedroom?
Jon's doing his homework.
385
00:16:50,076 --> 00:16:51,510
Police!
386
00:16:52,545 --> 00:16:54,275
Unlock the door, Jon.
387
00:16:55,114 --> 00:16:56,114
Bust it.
388
00:17:00,987 --> 00:17:02,080
Please, don't hurt him.
389
00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:03,417
Don't say a word, Jon.
390
00:17:04,924 --> 00:17:05,924
Homework, huh?
391
00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:08,290
"Biker Sluts Rock Vegas."
392
00:17:08,661 --> 00:17:10,061
Must be the new math.
393
00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:11,926
No place like home.
394
00:17:12,064 --> 00:17:13,259
He's a teenage boy.
395
00:17:13,633 --> 00:17:16,797
Oh, yeah? What's this?
396
00:17:17,803 --> 00:17:19,066
A zit remover?
397
00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:27,237
Murder in the second degree.
398
00:17:27,313 --> 00:17:29,714
How does the defendant
plead? Not guilty.
399
00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:31,910
People request $500,000 bail.
400
00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:33,362
They're dreaming, Your Honor.
401
00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:35,197
We have a weapon that
matches the fatal wound.
402
00:17:35,221 --> 00:17:38,089
No blood was found on this weapon
or in the defendant's apartment.
403
00:17:38,157 --> 00:17:39,635
There's evidence
the victim's body
404
00:17:39,659 --> 00:17:41,303
was dragged through
the defendant's stairwell.
405
00:17:41,327 --> 00:17:43,805
Tobacco residue that could
have come from a million places.
406
00:17:43,829 --> 00:17:45,320
All they've got is coincidences.
407
00:17:45,398 --> 00:17:48,163
You get enough coincidences,
they start to add up.
408
00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:51,226
Yes, they do. To $20,000.
409
00:17:56,175 --> 00:17:57,871
Can't fault Judge
Fraser on bail.
410
00:17:58,811 --> 00:18:01,557
Can you put Telford and Chris Skinner
together on the day of the murder?
411
00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:03,106
Nobody saw them together.
412
00:18:03,382 --> 00:18:05,613
And how'd he manage
to clean up all that blood?
413
00:18:05,685 --> 00:18:07,779
He got an A in Home Ec.
414
00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:09,946
Or maybe he had help.
415
00:18:11,057 --> 00:18:12,923
I never saw Chris
or Jon that day.
416
00:18:13,059 --> 00:18:15,085
You stickin' with
that? It's the truth.
417
00:18:15,161 --> 00:18:16,161
Then you're under arrest.
418
00:18:16,228 --> 00:18:17,890
You said you were
just gonna talk to him.
419
00:18:17,964 --> 00:18:19,057
And he's not talking.
420
00:18:19,131 --> 00:18:20,771
So that makes him an
accomplice to murder.
421
00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:22,893
So you and Jon are
going upstate together.
422
00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:24,195
For a couple of decades.
423
00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:26,671
Oh, please. My son
didn't do anything.
424
00:18:26,739 --> 00:18:28,435
Except set the whole thing up.
425
00:18:28,507 --> 00:18:30,908
Jon killed Chris because
he was bullying you, right?
426
00:18:30,977 --> 00:18:34,038
That's your case? A
second-hand motive?
427
00:18:34,213 --> 00:18:35,453
It wasn't even like that.
428
00:18:35,548 --> 00:18:38,245
That's the only theory we
have so we're runnin' with it.
429
00:18:38,317 --> 00:18:40,843
I never even told Jon about
Chris pushin' me around.
430
00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:42,780
I didn't want him to
think I was a wimp.
431
00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:45,984
So what did you tell Jon?
432
00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:50,189
He talks to you, you forget
about this accomplice nonsense?
433
00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:52,830
We'll see.
434
00:18:56,435 --> 00:18:58,404
I saw him on the
street that day.
435
00:18:58,471 --> 00:19:00,791
All I said was Chris was in
the neighborhood sellin' candy.
436
00:19:01,007 --> 00:19:02,066
Why?
437
00:19:02,942 --> 00:19:04,410
I knew Jon liked
messin' with him.
438
00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:06,408
Messin' with him how?
439
00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:08,778
I don't know. Just
givin' him a hard time.
440
00:19:08,848 --> 00:19:10,976
What did Jon say when
you told him about Chris.
441
00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:12,944
Nothin' about killin' him.
442
00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:14,152
Then what?
443
00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:19,418
He said, "I hope that
faggot comes to my building."
444
00:19:22,595 --> 00:19:24,291
Not exactly a death threat.
445
00:19:24,363 --> 00:19:26,161
He was lying in wait
for Chris Skinner.
446
00:19:26,232 --> 00:19:27,700
Because he has a sweet tooth.
447
00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:29,759
He enjoyed hassling the kid.
448
00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:31,895
Why not try out his toys on him?
449
00:19:31,971 --> 00:19:33,803
His parents know that
he had these weapons?
450
00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:35,535
They were hanging on his wall.
451
00:19:35,608 --> 00:19:37,270
He ever threaten anyone else?
452
00:19:37,343 --> 00:19:39,244
So far, none of
the kids are talking.
453
00:19:39,311 --> 00:19:40,973
And the people who aren't kids?
454
00:19:45,518 --> 00:19:48,511
Teaching creative writing
is like being a therapist.
455
00:19:48,587 --> 00:19:50,988
Some of the stuff they
write would freak you out.
456
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:53,650
What kind of stuff
did Jon Telford write?
457
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,651
Very disturbing.
458
00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:58,096
I saved one of his stories.
459
00:20:00,266 --> 00:20:03,134
"I sent my enemy's gibs
flying through the air."
460
00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:05,098
Gibs?
461
00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:06,537
Body parts.
462
00:20:06,806 --> 00:20:09,708
"I spammed him with
my pill, threw my grenade.
463
00:20:09,775 --> 00:20:11,539
"I fragged another fresh beer,
464
00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:13,672
"made another easy kill."
465
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,405
Anthony Burgess would be proud.
466
00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:18,974
I wish Burgess
was the inspiration.
467
00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:21,020
It's from a computer
game called Terror.
468
00:20:21,153 --> 00:20:24,555
Jon told me he plays it on the
Internet five, six hours a night.
469
00:20:25,291 --> 00:20:26,725
You mind if I borrow that?
470
00:20:26,792 --> 00:20:30,194
I called Jon's parents about
it, but his father hung up on me.
471
00:20:32,264 --> 00:20:34,199
I didn't know what else to do.
472
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,635
You know, I still can't believe
that Jon actually killed that boy.
473
00:20:39,438 --> 00:20:43,341
"Then I laid a gash in the
neck of Superfly Jones."
474
00:20:44,043 --> 00:20:45,477
Character from the game.
475
00:20:46,679 --> 00:20:48,204
We seized his
computer this morning,
476
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,647
and I found these video
games on his hard drive.
477
00:20:50,816 --> 00:20:52,648
The violence looks
so over-the-top.
478
00:20:52,718 --> 00:20:55,779
That's what sells. Terror
2's the best on the market.
479
00:20:55,855 --> 00:20:58,586
The Marines use games
like this to train their newbies.
480
00:20:58,657 --> 00:20:59,852
Must be a male thing.
481
00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:01,951
My nephew has the old version.
482
00:21:02,027 --> 00:21:03,325
It gets to you.
483
00:21:03,796 --> 00:21:05,059
So you like this junk?
484
00:21:05,397 --> 00:21:07,491
Lighten up, Abbie. He
got me to try it one night.
485
00:21:07,566 --> 00:21:10,092
Three o'clock in the
morning I was still hypnotized.
486
00:21:11,904 --> 00:21:14,066
Anything else interesting
in his computer?
487
00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:16,541
I downloaded a bunch
of e-mails for you.
488
00:21:20,379 --> 00:21:21,870
Anything useful?
489
00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:26,043
Let's see. Telford e-mailed
somebody named DoomMaster.
490
00:21:27,253 --> 00:21:29,620
"Did you notice
Skinner's faggot haircut?"
491
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:33,582
Here's one about
some kid named Leo.
492
00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:38,059
Telford was trying to figure out
a way to put urine in his locker.
493
00:21:43,068 --> 00:21:45,128
I'm just glad he
didn't kill Leo.
494
00:21:45,905 --> 00:21:47,737
Did you have problems with Jon?
495
00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:49,173
Not really.
496
00:21:49,275 --> 00:21:52,439
Oh, come on,
Leo. It's no big deal.
497
00:21:53,779 --> 00:21:55,680
He'll barely talk
to me about it.
498
00:21:57,082 --> 00:21:59,847
Maybe you'd feel better
if you got it off your chest.
499
00:22:02,054 --> 00:22:03,818
Well, I'll tell you what I know.
500
00:22:03,889 --> 00:22:07,553
Last year in study hall, Jon
put a dead rat in Leo's backpack.
501
00:22:08,093 --> 00:22:11,029
This year, he scratched the
word 'faggot' on his locker.
502
00:22:11,564 --> 00:22:12,998
Did you complain to the school?
503
00:22:13,265 --> 00:22:14,563
Leo didn't want me to.
504
00:22:15,134 --> 00:22:16,966
He was afraid
it'd make it worse.
505
00:22:17,036 --> 00:22:19,232
One of his friends told
me about the locker.
506
00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:21,573
I decided to go
see Telford's father.
507
00:22:21,974 --> 00:22:23,135
And how'd he react?
508
00:22:23,475 --> 00:22:27,242
He said I had no proof, and if I
called the school he was gonna sue me.
509
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,675
You sure it was Jon?
510
00:22:31,517 --> 00:22:34,043
Leo says Jon's the only
one who calls him "faggot."
511
00:22:35,054 --> 00:22:36,989
Look, it's no big deal.
512
00:22:37,056 --> 00:22:38,115
And it did not end there.
513
00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,318
Three weeks later, he
locked him in a bathroom stall.
514
00:22:40,392 --> 00:22:42,520
Come on, Dad. I
called Telford's father.
515
00:22:42,595 --> 00:22:44,689
He said Leo should
learn to tough it out.
516
00:22:45,598 --> 00:22:47,478
Sounds like you were
having a pretty rough time.
517
00:22:48,667 --> 00:22:51,364
Let's face it, I'm short,
518
00:22:51,804 --> 00:22:53,067
I'm nerdy looking.
519
00:22:53,772 --> 00:22:55,638
Bullies like Jon are
going to pick on me.
520
00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:57,108
Did he ever threaten you?
521
00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:01,776
If he did, I need
you to tell me.
522
00:23:03,482 --> 00:23:05,110
It's really nothing.
523
00:23:06,352 --> 00:23:07,684
Look, Leo,
524
00:23:08,654 --> 00:23:11,681
maybe it's okay to keep
what happened to you a secret,
525
00:23:11,757 --> 00:23:13,555
but Chris Skinner was murdered.
526
00:23:20,165 --> 00:23:24,068
Jon once took out a knife and
tried to pull me into his building.
527
00:23:24,136 --> 00:23:25,627
What happened?
528
00:23:26,071 --> 00:23:27,972
He said he had a
room in his basement
529
00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:30,269
where he was gonna
use me for sword practice.
530
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:32,578
Then I ran away.
531
00:23:32,645 --> 00:23:34,546
Why didn't you tell me?
532
00:23:35,681 --> 00:23:37,547
What were you gonna do, Dad?
533
00:23:37,616 --> 00:23:38,982
Call his father again?
534
00:23:43,455 --> 00:23:45,287
Which one is your
storage room, Mr. Telford?
535
00:23:45,357 --> 00:23:47,826
Why should I help you?
You're tryin' to lock up my son.
536
00:23:47,893 --> 00:23:49,725
You son is a predator.
537
00:23:49,795 --> 00:23:51,821
Why? Because he
plays video games?
538
00:23:51,897 --> 00:23:53,160
This is it.
539
00:23:53,499 --> 00:23:54,558
Give us the key.
540
00:23:54,633 --> 00:23:56,329
- I don't have to.
- You're right.
541
00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:09,877
What the hell is this?
542
00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:11,815
I brought it home from
the store where I work.
543
00:24:11,951 --> 00:24:13,977
Couldn't you get
any live volunteers?
544
00:24:14,553 --> 00:24:15,553
You knew about this?
545
00:24:15,654 --> 00:24:17,623
What's the big deal?
Jon was practicing.
546
00:24:18,357 --> 00:24:20,553
Looks like he was
gettin' pretty good at it.
547
00:24:24,964 --> 00:24:28,196
The People's motion should
be denied in its entirety, Judge.
548
00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:30,600
What evidence are you
seeking to introduce, Mr. McCoy?
549
00:24:30,703 --> 00:24:32,399
Jon Telford's practice dummy.
550
00:24:33,038 --> 00:24:34,563
Evidence of his
Internet fantasies.
551
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,108
Prior instances of his bullying.
552
00:24:36,241 --> 00:24:38,481
It's prejudicial, Judge. It's
an attack on his character.
553
00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:41,878
He sliced up a mannequin in the exact
manner Chris Skinner was murdered.
554
00:24:41,947 --> 00:24:43,506
It goes to modus operandi.
555
00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:46,416
Modus operandi implies a
prior crime was committed.
556
00:24:46,585 --> 00:24:48,486
There's no law against
defacing a mannequin.
557
00:24:48,554 --> 00:24:50,432
There are laws against
possessing these kinds of weapons.
558
00:24:50,456 --> 00:24:52,516
Yes, and you're free
to introduce the fact
559
00:24:52,624 --> 00:24:56,026
my client broke those laws if he
takes the stand, which he's not.
560
00:24:56,095 --> 00:24:58,257
So Mr. Granick can portray
his client as a choirboy?
561
00:24:58,430 --> 00:25:01,525
If he opens the door,
Mr. McCoy it all becomes relevant.
562
00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:03,330
Now, until then,
563
00:25:03,469 --> 00:25:04,903
I'll permit you to
introduce this...
564
00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:06,495
What do you call it? Kama.
565
00:25:07,106 --> 00:25:11,976
This kama. You can argue it's a unique
weapon that inflicted a unique wound.
566
00:25:12,044 --> 00:25:14,377
Now, that's legitimate
circumstantial evidence.
567
00:25:14,546 --> 00:25:15,912
The other stuff is out.
568
00:25:20,252 --> 00:25:23,188
Van Ness excluded all
our bad acts evidence.
569
00:25:23,255 --> 00:25:24,985
He may as well have
dismissed the case.
570
00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:26,923
We have Ryan
Velardi's testimony.
571
00:25:26,992 --> 00:25:29,484
Not unless you can talk
some sense into his mother.
572
00:25:31,697 --> 00:25:34,462
Ryan didn't see his
friend Jon like he said.
573
00:25:34,566 --> 00:25:37,126
When he spoke to Ms.
Carmichael, he was confused.
574
00:25:37,636 --> 00:25:39,434
He didn't seem confused to me.
575
00:25:39,605 --> 00:25:41,116
You threatened him
with a murder charge.
576
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:43,302
He was just sayin'
what you wanted to hear.
577
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,435
Did somebody get
to him, Mrs. Velardi?
578
00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:48,703
If there's been witness
tampering, we can make it stop.
579
00:25:48,781 --> 00:25:50,010
It's not that.
580
00:25:50,082 --> 00:25:51,983
So what's going
on, Mrs. Velardi?
581
00:25:53,018 --> 00:25:54,018
He's scared.
582
00:25:54,353 --> 00:25:55,353
Scared of what?
583
00:25:57,222 --> 00:25:59,521
If you don't help us, I'll
prosecute you for tampering.
584
00:25:59,691 --> 00:26:02,092
Oh, first you threaten him,
now you're threatenin' me?
585
00:26:02,194 --> 00:26:03,662
He's a witness in a murder case.
586
00:26:03,729 --> 00:26:05,891
I need his testimony
to convict the killer
587
00:26:05,964 --> 00:26:08,297
I don't care. I'm not
puttin' him in danger.
588
00:26:08,367 --> 00:26:10,097
We can protect him.
589
00:26:10,202 --> 00:26:11,932
You'll have to find
somebody else.
590
00:26:12,137 --> 00:26:16,040
Mrs. Velardi, he's the only
one who heard Jon Telford
591
00:26:16,108 --> 00:26:17,667
threaten to harm the victim.
592
00:26:19,044 --> 00:26:20,478
Please, Mr. McCoy.
593
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,742
Mrs. Velardi, I'll subpoena him
594
00:26:22,815 --> 00:26:24,249
and put him in
front of the jury.
595
00:26:24,316 --> 00:26:26,114
And he'll say he made a mistake.
596
00:26:26,819 --> 00:26:29,152
His lawyer says he
doesn't have to talk to you.
597
00:26:29,755 --> 00:26:31,519
We have nothing else to say.
598
00:26:37,529 --> 00:26:40,522
Ryan Velardi was the
lynch-pin of our case.
599
00:26:40,666 --> 00:26:43,158
Can you put the victim
at Telford's building?
600
00:26:43,569 --> 00:26:47,006
The cops have been through
it three times. Nobody saw him.
601
00:26:47,406 --> 00:26:48,567
There was a blanket.
602
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,974
Freshly dry cleaned. No hairs
or fibers except for the victim's.
603
00:26:52,044 --> 00:26:55,276
This teenager commits
the perfect crime.
604
00:26:55,347 --> 00:26:56,975
I know. It's hard to believe.
605
00:26:58,584 --> 00:27:02,419
CSU luminoled every conceivable
spot in the Telford's building.
606
00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:04,522
They didn't find
a drop of blood.
607
00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:08,721
We have the splatter games, the
violent behavior, the illegal weapons.
608
00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:10,672
But there's no way to get it in.
609
00:27:10,696 --> 00:27:12,028
Where'd he get the weapons?
610
00:27:12,097 --> 00:27:14,760
Mail order. Paid for with
his father's credit card.
611
00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:18,861
Kid gets off, father
buys his son a bazooka.
612
00:27:21,273 --> 00:27:23,504
Charge the father.
613
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:27,275
With providing the
instrumentality? With murder.
614
00:27:28,514 --> 00:27:29,538
On what basis?
615
00:27:30,015 --> 00:27:31,506
Depraved indifference.
616
00:27:32,284 --> 00:27:34,947
Hold the father responsible
for the criminal acts of the son?
617
00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:36,945
You don't think
he's responsible?
618
00:27:37,022 --> 00:27:38,490
Morally, maybe.
619
00:27:38,557 --> 00:27:39,855
It's good enough for me.
620
00:27:39,925 --> 00:27:42,224
It's about time we knocked
some sense into these parents.
621
00:27:43,795 --> 00:27:45,821
You're wielding
a pretty big stick.
622
00:27:46,832 --> 00:27:49,427
They don't do the
job, puts it on us.
623
00:27:49,768 --> 00:27:50,768
Does it?
624
00:27:51,236 --> 00:27:52,602
Nobody's ever tried it.
625
00:27:54,606 --> 00:27:56,404
That ever stop you two before?
626
00:28:03,849 --> 00:28:05,010
What do you think?
627
00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:08,854
It makes me nervous.
628
00:28:10,155 --> 00:28:13,785
I don't know. Telford encourages
Jon's aggressive behavior,
629
00:28:13,859 --> 00:28:16,328
he arms him to the
teeth. Jury might buy it.
630
00:28:16,395 --> 00:28:17,795
That's what makes me nervous.
631
00:28:17,863 --> 00:28:21,595
We try them together. All Jon's
prior bad acts become probative.
632
00:28:21,667 --> 00:28:24,193
We don't get the father,
at least we get the kid.
633
00:28:27,906 --> 00:28:29,272
Bombs away.
634
00:28:31,109 --> 00:28:32,441
You're arresting me for what?
635
00:28:32,511 --> 00:28:33,755
For the murder of Chris Skinner.
636
00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:35,008
Why are you doing this?
637
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,139
Turn around, Mr. Telford?
638
00:28:36,215 --> 00:28:37,478
Not until my lawyer gets here.
639
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:39,227
You sure you want to do
this in front of your son?
640
00:28:39,251 --> 00:28:40,344
Hey, get away from me.
641
00:28:40,419 --> 00:28:41,978
Get your hands off me! Come on.
642
00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:43,886
Jimmy, go to your room now!
643
00:28:43,956 --> 00:28:44,956
I don't believe this!
644
00:28:45,023 --> 00:28:47,549
No, I didn't expect you
would. Give him Miranda.
645
00:28:47,626 --> 00:28:48,937
You have the right
to remain silent,
646
00:28:48,961 --> 00:28:50,361
which you should take us up on.
647
00:28:50,429 --> 00:28:53,399
Anything you say can and will be
used against you in a court of law...
648
00:28:53,932 --> 00:28:55,594
Judge Fraser in arraignments
649
00:28:56,168 --> 00:28:58,262
didn't think our
case was worth bail.
650
00:28:58,870 --> 00:29:00,099
His problem.
651
00:29:00,172 --> 00:29:02,698
Our problem is how to
make a case against Telford.
652
00:29:02,874 --> 00:29:05,309
Make sure the jury
knows he dropped the ball.
653
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,902
And we get a conviction
for bad parenting.
654
00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:10,349
He gave his son a sword,
655
00:29:10,716 --> 00:29:12,810
sent him out to
practice neck chops.
656
00:29:13,218 --> 00:29:15,813
Ah, bad parenting
in the first degree.
657
00:29:15,887 --> 00:29:18,152
His indifference
created the risk.
658
00:29:18,323 --> 00:29:20,986
Only a matter of time before
that kid attacked somebody.
659
00:29:23,462 --> 00:29:26,899
Okay, suppose we pull it off.
660
00:29:28,533 --> 00:29:29,660
Who's next, Adam?
661
00:29:32,738 --> 00:29:36,300
What did Potter Stewart
say about pornography?
662
00:29:36,375 --> 00:29:38,708
"I can't define what it is,
but I know it when I see it."
663
00:29:39,011 --> 00:29:40,206
Right.
664
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:42,911
Telford could have
stopped his son.
665
00:29:44,249 --> 00:29:46,616
The way I read the law,
it makes him a murderer.
666
00:29:47,586 --> 00:29:49,214
Maybe you should try the case.
667
00:29:51,356 --> 00:29:53,382
I have to do all the
work around here?
668
00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:56,194
Do you think he's innocent?
669
00:29:56,261 --> 00:29:57,354
I don't.
670
00:29:57,429 --> 00:29:59,660
Well, I'm sure you'll do fine.
671
00:30:09,241 --> 00:30:11,241
The People will prove
that Jon Telford buried
672
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:14,747
a martial arts weapon
called the kama
673
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:16,714
into the neck of Chris Skinner.
674
00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:19,494
The evidence will show that this
crime would not have happened
675
00:30:19,518 --> 00:30:23,853
had it not been for the total
indifference of Jon Telford's father.
676
00:30:24,523 --> 00:30:26,515
Had Robert Telford
opened his eyes
677
00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:30,028
to what was going on with
his son in his own home,
678
00:30:30,095 --> 00:30:31,996
Chris Skinner would
be with us today.
679
00:30:34,333 --> 00:30:36,495
I'll be frank with you,
ladies and gentlemen.
680
00:30:36,635 --> 00:30:38,968
We're entering
uncharted waters here.
681
00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:43,008
Once you bring a
child into this world,
682
00:30:43,075 --> 00:30:45,101
there are obligations attached.
683
00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:48,841
Parents have a commitment
to love and care for their child,
684
00:30:48,914 --> 00:30:50,143
to nurture his growth,
685
00:30:50,215 --> 00:30:54,949
and they also have a
commitment to us, to society,
686
00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:58,252
to make sure that their
child obeys the law.
687
00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:02,624
You're going to hear evidence that Robert
Telford dishonored both commitments.
688
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:08,392
He nurtured his son's brutality
689
00:31:08,767 --> 00:31:10,702
and anti-social behavior.
690
00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:15,373
Warned that his son
was aggressive, a bully,
691
00:31:15,741 --> 00:31:18,575
a boy obsessed with images
of cruelty and violence,
692
00:31:18,643 --> 00:31:20,202
he shrugged it off.
693
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:25,073
He armed his son with
instruments of death,
694
00:31:25,951 --> 00:31:29,820
and then he let him
loose on Chris Skinner.
695
00:31:31,923 --> 00:31:34,984
I don't have to prove
to you that Mr. Telford
696
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:37,928
was a direct cause
of Chris's death.
697
00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:40,158
If he could have
foreseen that his son
698
00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:42,895
would use his weapons
to harm another person,
699
00:31:43,101 --> 00:31:47,163
and if he set that chain of events
in motion through his inaction,
700
00:31:47,639 --> 00:31:51,974
the law says he committed
depraved indifference murder.
701
00:31:52,944 --> 00:31:54,742
And in that case,
702
00:31:55,414 --> 00:31:59,215
the sins of the son should
be visited on the father.
703
00:32:07,993 --> 00:32:11,122
Let's talk about what's
really going on here.
704
00:32:12,164 --> 00:32:14,360
The People's case
against Jon Telford
705
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,563
is a handful of
circumstantial evidence.
706
00:32:18,403 --> 00:32:23,239
Mr. McCoy wants to hold this pathetic bit
of evidence together by one proposition.
707
00:32:24,242 --> 00:32:28,270
He's going to try to prove
to you that Jon is a bad boy.
708
00:32:29,147 --> 00:32:33,209
He's asking you to convict
Jon not on the evidence,
709
00:32:33,485 --> 00:32:35,249
but on his character.
710
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,951
And he wants you to believe that
Jon was so mean, so out of control
711
00:32:40,692 --> 00:32:43,252
that his father should be
held legally responsible.
712
00:32:44,095 --> 00:32:47,395
The prosecution of
Robert Telford is a ploy
713
00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:50,561
to admit bad character
evidence against his son.
714
00:32:51,236 --> 00:32:53,432
Mr. Telford never
heard of Chris Skinner.
715
00:32:53,805 --> 00:32:55,330
He was miles away
when this happened.
716
00:32:55,407 --> 00:32:57,774
He didn't have a thing
to do with this murder.
717
00:32:59,377 --> 00:33:01,369
Follow the ball,
ladies and gentlemen.
718
00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:04,578
They can't prove a
case against Jon directly,
719
00:33:04,716 --> 00:33:06,514
so they'll do it by innuendo.
720
00:33:06,618 --> 00:33:09,816
And for lack of an explanation
for this terrible crime,
721
00:33:11,156 --> 00:33:12,590
they'll blame the parent.
722
00:33:13,892 --> 00:33:16,293
If you let them do
this to Jon Telford,
723
00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:19,021
you'll be next.
724
00:33:19,631 --> 00:33:20,929
Thank you.
725
00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:29,104
The tobacco residue we
discovered in the Telford's stairwell
726
00:33:29,174 --> 00:33:31,643
was identical to the
residue on the garbage bag
727
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:33,440
where we found
the victim's body.
728
00:33:33,745 --> 00:33:36,772
And when you made that discovery,
Detective, what action did you take?
729
00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:38,282
We obtained a search warrant,
730
00:33:38,416 --> 00:33:42,012
and we recovered a
kama in Jon Telford's room.
731
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,118
People's three.
732
00:33:46,558 --> 00:33:49,653
Was there any kind of forensic
test conducted on this weapon?
733
00:33:50,195 --> 00:33:51,195
Yes.
734
00:33:51,296 --> 00:33:54,323
It was consistent with the
fatal wound in the victim's neck.
735
00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:57,532
No further questions.
736
00:33:59,304 --> 00:34:01,239
Was any of the victim's blood
737
00:34:01,306 --> 00:34:04,572
found in the Telford's
apartment or stairwell, Detective?
738
00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:05,736
No.
739
00:34:06,411 --> 00:34:07,606
How about on the kama?
740
00:34:08,179 --> 00:34:09,238
No.
741
00:34:09,314 --> 00:34:10,874
You have children,
don't you, Detective?
742
00:34:11,082 --> 00:34:13,082
Objection. JUDGE: Where
are you going, Mr. Granick?
743
00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:16,454
The prosecution has raised the
issue of parental responsibility.
744
00:34:16,588 --> 00:34:18,648
I'd like a little leeway to
address their argument.
745
00:34:18,857 --> 00:34:20,416
Fine, Judge. But
with this Detective?
746
00:34:20,492 --> 00:34:22,393
I'm going to give it to
him Ms. Carmichael.
747
00:34:22,961 --> 00:34:24,862
You're the ones
pushing the envelope.
748
00:34:25,630 --> 00:34:27,258
Answer the question, Detective.
749
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,199
I had two daughters. One
of them was murdered.
750
00:34:31,937 --> 00:34:35,396
Because she turned state's
evidence in a drug case?
751
00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:38,441
She was going to
testify against a dealer.
752
00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:40,490
So she was selling
drugs herself?
753
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:41,874
Objection.
754
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,173
Overruled.
755
00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:48,276
Yes, she was selling drugs.
756
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,947
And as her father,
under Mr. McCoy's theory,
757
00:34:52,223 --> 00:34:55,193
shouldn't you be held criminally
responsible for her drug dealing?
758
00:35:00,899 --> 00:35:02,128
Criminally responsible?
759
00:35:03,501 --> 00:35:04,501
No.
760
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:08,638
But I didn't give her the pills
and teach her how to sell them.
761
00:35:11,509 --> 00:35:12,807
No further questions.
762
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,347
Beside the locker incident,
763
00:35:22,554 --> 00:35:23,954
what other things
did Jon do to you?
764
00:35:23,989 --> 00:35:25,582
Locked me in the bathroom.
765
00:35:25,757 --> 00:35:27,123
What else, Leo?
766
00:35:27,192 --> 00:35:30,390
He put a knife against my neck
and tried to get me in his basement.
767
00:35:32,197 --> 00:35:35,133
He called me names. Like what?
768
00:35:36,401 --> 00:35:37,767
Do I have to say?
769
00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:39,661
It's okay.
770
00:35:42,340 --> 00:35:43,433
Faggot.
771
00:35:44,209 --> 00:35:45,575
Homo boy.
772
00:35:45,644 --> 00:35:47,408
Did you ever ask him to stop?
773
00:35:47,545 --> 00:35:51,073
Yeah. He just laughed at me.
774
00:35:51,583 --> 00:35:54,075
I told him my father
was going to call his dad.
775
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:56,348
He said, "Go ahead. Big deal."
776
00:35:57,722 --> 00:35:58,985
Thank you, Leo.
777
00:36:03,528 --> 00:36:05,997
Does your father let you play
with video games at home?
778
00:36:06,064 --> 00:36:07,692
Yes. Like what, Leo?
779
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,431
Well, uh, I have Death
Match and Cyber Mafia.
780
00:36:11,736 --> 00:36:13,796
Did he ever buy you
a toy gun or a knife?
781
00:36:14,305 --> 00:36:15,705
A Swiss Army Knife.
782
00:36:16,241 --> 00:36:19,143
Hmm, did you ever
do anything bad?
783
00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:23,405
I don't believe
it. Not one thing?
784
00:36:24,416 --> 00:36:27,284
Well, I broke my sister's
glass animal collection.
785
00:36:28,153 --> 00:36:30,364
All right, you know the
story of George Washington
786
00:36:30,388 --> 00:36:32,323
and the cherry tree, right?
- Yes.
787
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:33,653
When he did something wrong,
788
00:36:33,792 --> 00:36:35,658
he took responsibility
for it, right?
789
00:36:36,394 --> 00:36:37,594
That's what the story's about.
790
00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:39,422
And when you broke
your sister's things,
791
00:36:39,698 --> 00:36:41,462
you took responsibility, right?
792
00:36:41,566 --> 00:36:42,566
Right.
793
00:36:42,667 --> 00:36:44,667
You didn't say it was
your father's fault, did you?
794
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:46,270
No.
795
00:36:48,773 --> 00:36:51,299
It's a truth so simple,
even a child can grasp it.
796
00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:53,773
Thank you, Leo.
797
00:37:04,522 --> 00:37:06,753
I'm a delivery dispatcher
for Bloomingdales.
798
00:37:07,959 --> 00:37:11,623
My wife Sandra manages the
produce department in a supermarket.
799
00:37:11,696 --> 00:37:14,393
And what kind of hours
do you and your wife work?
800
00:37:14,466 --> 00:37:16,059
I work a lot of overtime.
801
00:37:16,134 --> 00:37:19,002
Sandra works a regular
shift but sometimes it's nights.
802
00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:21,699
Did you receive any complaints
about Jon from school?
803
00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:24,532
Just a call from that
teacher that time.
804
00:37:24,843 --> 00:37:27,438
Oh. Well, she testified
that you hung up on her.
805
00:37:28,179 --> 00:37:30,410
Look, maybe I
was a little thick.
806
00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:33,847
You know, she was talking
about Internet this, Internet that.
807
00:37:34,018 --> 00:37:36,317
I don't know much about it.
808
00:37:36,387 --> 00:37:40,916
Well, do you know about the
video games your son plays?
809
00:37:40,992 --> 00:37:41,992
I know they're violent.
810
00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:46,425
When we were a kid, we used to
play combat and blow up the Nazis.
811
00:37:46,965 --> 00:37:49,560
You know, the way I
see it, kids are the same.
812
00:37:49,634 --> 00:37:50,914
Just the technology's different.
813
00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:54,696
How did Jon get
involved in martial arts?
814
00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:56,931
I took him to karate
lessons when he was little.
815
00:37:57,609 --> 00:37:59,601
And is that why he
had these weapons?
816
00:37:59,844 --> 00:38:02,177
Uh, no. He quit the lessons.
817
00:38:02,347 --> 00:38:03,691
But he was gettin'
picked on at school
818
00:38:03,715 --> 00:38:05,013
by some of the football players,
819
00:38:05,083 --> 00:38:07,882
so I just thought this might
help him with his confidence.
820
00:38:08,753 --> 00:38:10,346
Nothing further.
821
00:38:16,995 --> 00:38:19,487
How did your son
get this, Mr. Telford?
822
00:38:19,564 --> 00:38:22,398
Jon showed me how to order
the karate gear on a computer.
823
00:38:23,201 --> 00:38:26,467
I gave him my credit card
number to buy the stuff.
824
00:38:26,571 --> 00:38:28,904
This karate gear, as you call it
825
00:38:29,474 --> 00:38:32,103
you can't buy it in New
York state, can you?
826
00:38:32,210 --> 00:38:35,203
A brother of mine lives in Virginia.
We had it shipped down there.
827
00:38:35,713 --> 00:38:38,877
So you enabled your
son to buy illegal weapons.
828
00:38:39,083 --> 00:38:40,449
Boys like that stuff.
829
00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:43,030
Didn't you ever have a
slingshot when you were a kid?
830
00:38:43,054 --> 00:38:44,579
Made out of a tree branch.
831
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:48,658
It wasn't contraband from
an 'adults only' website.
832
00:38:48,726 --> 00:38:50,422
It taught him how
to defend himself.
833
00:38:50,495 --> 00:38:53,431
Without any kind of
training or supervision?
834
00:38:53,698 --> 00:38:55,166
He was practicing on his own.
835
00:38:55,233 --> 00:38:58,067
Only he was practicing to be
a bully, wasn't he, Mr. Telford?
836
00:38:59,137 --> 00:39:01,231
When he was 13, some punk held
837
00:39:01,306 --> 00:39:05,209
a knife to his throat and took
his money. He came home crying.
838
00:39:05,276 --> 00:39:07,871
So this is your
idea of parenting?
839
00:39:07,946 --> 00:39:12,407
To send him out with
this, and this, and this?
840
00:39:12,851 --> 00:39:15,821
Listen, it's a different world
than when you and I grew up.
841
00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:19,254
A kid throws a punch now
another kid pulls out a gun.
842
00:39:19,490 --> 00:39:21,001
How about teaching
him not to fight?
843
00:39:21,025 --> 00:39:23,256
What, so they could
rob his money again?
844
00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:26,123
I wanted him to
stand up for himself.
845
00:39:26,464 --> 00:39:27,464
To be a man.
846
00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:30,297
They laugh at you
when you say that now.
847
00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:32,166
But yeah. What's
wrong with that?
848
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:36,601
Was he being a man when he
tortured Leo Clayton in school?
849
00:39:36,674 --> 00:39:37,869
Jon wouldn't do that.
850
00:39:37,942 --> 00:39:40,377
When he held a knife
against his throat?
851
00:39:40,979 --> 00:39:42,219
I don't know the story on that.
852
00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:43,591
You knew he was
carrying a knife.
853
00:39:43,615 --> 00:39:45,695
I knew he had one, but
he knew not to use it.
854
00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:47,681
Well, he did use
it, Mr. Telford.
855
00:39:47,752 --> 00:39:48,992
Isn't that what you taught him?
856
00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:51,019
No. To relieve his feelings
857
00:39:51,089 --> 00:39:52,648
of helplessness with aggression?
858
00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:54,022
That's just more PC crap.
859
00:39:54,158 --> 00:39:57,185
Or to retreat into his fantasy
world on his computer.
860
00:39:57,262 --> 00:39:59,231
He's not the only kid
playing these things.
861
00:39:59,297 --> 00:40:02,199
You stood there and
watched while your son
862
00:40:02,267 --> 00:40:04,532
turned into a killer
didn't you, Mr. Telford?
863
00:40:05,203 --> 00:40:06,831
That's ridiculous.
864
00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:09,639
I wanted my kid
to protect himself.
865
00:40:09,874 --> 00:40:13,743
You were proud when he dished
it out at school, weren't you?
866
00:40:13,878 --> 00:40:15,574
I wasn't proud.
867
00:40:15,713 --> 00:40:17,909
You know what those
football players called him?
868
00:40:18,283 --> 00:40:19,444
Fluff boy and...
869
00:40:19,517 --> 00:40:21,562
Is that what this is about,
Mr. Telford? You were ashamed?
870
00:40:21,586 --> 00:40:24,112
Where do you get off tryin' to
tell me how to raise my kid, huh?
871
00:40:24,188 --> 00:40:25,417
You think it's easy?
872
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:29,156
I love my boys! I did
the best that I could!
873
00:40:29,227 --> 00:40:30,422
You did not!
874
00:40:31,062 --> 00:40:32,262
Sit down, Mrs. Telford.
875
00:40:32,297 --> 00:40:34,493
It's not true! He ruined him!
876
00:40:34,565 --> 00:40:36,397
Mrs. Telford.
877
00:40:36,467 --> 00:40:37,833
I want a mistrial, Judge.
878
00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:41,038
Let's step outside.
879
00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:49,074
I'll instruct the jury
to ignore the outburst.
880
00:40:49,147 --> 00:40:51,139
Oh, gimme a break, Judge.
881
00:40:51,215 --> 00:40:53,480
How can my clients
get a fair trial after that?
882
00:40:53,551 --> 00:40:54,951
The defendant
brought it on himself.
883
00:40:54,986 --> 00:40:56,579
The People oppose a mistrial.
884
00:40:57,155 --> 00:40:59,090
And you're not getting
one, Mr. Granick.
885
00:40:59,157 --> 00:41:00,523
I'm not wasting two weeks' work.
886
00:41:00,591 --> 00:41:02,992
Judge... That means
you have a problem.
887
00:41:04,696 --> 00:41:06,130
We'll recess till tomorrow.
888
00:41:14,172 --> 00:41:17,108
Jon admits to murder,
I'll consider man one.
889
00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:18,871
And my husband gets off?
890
00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:21,070
Man two. Reckless homicide.
891
00:41:21,312 --> 00:41:22,541
I didn't kill the kid.
892
00:41:22,613 --> 00:41:25,742
You got Jon. You really need a
pound of flesh from Mr. Telford?
893
00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:27,183
I'm not taking any deal.
894
00:41:27,552 --> 00:41:28,712
We'll see you tomorrow.
895
00:41:28,753 --> 00:41:30,244
What if I give you evidence?
896
00:41:30,421 --> 00:41:31,855
Will you make a deal with Jon?
897
00:41:34,392 --> 00:41:35,485
What are you doing?
898
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,324
What I should
have done all along.
899
00:41:37,695 --> 00:41:39,527
What kind of
evidence, Mrs. Telford?
900
00:41:41,432 --> 00:41:42,764
About the blanket.
901
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:44,163
Shut up, Sandra.
902
00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:45,396
Please, Mrs. Telford.
903
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:47,496
And I'll testify
against my husband.
904
00:41:48,373 --> 00:41:49,466
About what?
905
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:51,839
About what you've done
to us all these years.
906
00:41:53,277 --> 00:41:55,143
The weapons, the fighting.
907
00:41:57,048 --> 00:41:59,142
I've watched it long enough.
908
00:42:01,753 --> 00:42:02,948
You want me to go to jail?
909
00:42:03,021 --> 00:42:05,217
I see what you did to Jon.
910
00:42:06,657 --> 00:42:08,751
You're not going
to do it to Jimmy.
911
00:42:13,431 --> 00:42:15,457
Tell Mr. McCoy
what happened, Jon.
912
00:42:17,001 --> 00:42:18,128
No, Mom.
913
00:42:18,302 --> 00:42:19,998
That's right, Son.
Don't say a word.
914
00:42:21,672 --> 00:42:25,473
Tell him or I'll tell
him about our blanket.
915
00:42:29,747 --> 00:42:31,375
Damn you, Sandra.
916
00:42:34,218 --> 00:42:35,686
It's over, Jon.
917
00:42:39,657 --> 00:42:40,818
Please.
918
00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:43,855
Say what you did.
919
00:42:56,841 --> 00:42:58,707
I made Chris come
into our apartment.
920
00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:04,409
I was just going to take
his candy money, I swear.
921
00:43:07,485 --> 00:43:11,581
But he punched me in
the stomach hard, and...
922
00:43:14,025 --> 00:43:16,221
The kama was on the wall, and...
923
00:43:18,863 --> 00:43:21,332
I grabbed it, and
I swung it at him.
924
00:43:30,875 --> 00:43:32,400
Man one, 10-to-20.
925
00:43:36,647 --> 00:43:38,445
How can you do this to me?
926
00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:50,294
I didn't kill that kid.
927
00:43:52,530 --> 00:43:53,998
Man two, two-to-six.
928
00:43:55,133 --> 00:43:57,500
Or I put your wife on the stand.
929
00:43:59,537 --> 00:44:01,802
Would you rather risk
a murder conviction?
930
00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:03,199
Take it, Dad.
931
00:44:04,942 --> 00:44:07,468
Oh, now you're
tellin' me what to do?
932
00:44:07,845 --> 00:44:09,780
I'll do what I said, Robert.
933
00:44:11,616 --> 00:44:13,278
It's a fair offer.
934
00:44:18,322 --> 00:44:20,450
Now or never, Mr. Telford.
935
00:44:30,067 --> 00:44:31,365
Fine.
936
00:44:42,113 --> 00:44:45,515
Sandra Telford had her husband
served with divorce papers at Rikers.
937
00:44:46,017 --> 00:44:48,145
Sacrificed her marriage
to save her sons.
938
00:44:48,753 --> 00:44:51,814
She spoke up sooner, she
might have saved Chris Skinner.
939
00:44:52,557 --> 00:44:54,082
Want to put her in jail, too?
940
00:44:54,592 --> 00:44:55,821
Don't tempt me.72090
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