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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,014 --> 00:00:15,391 Nice to meet you. 2 00:00:15,516 --> 00:00:17,226 - Oh, okay. - Yes. 3 00:00:17,309 --> 00:00:19,937 In Borat Subsequent Moviefilm, 4 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:21,856 I lived with two conspiracy theorists, 5 00:00:21,939 --> 00:00:23,816 in character, for several days. 6 00:00:23,941 --> 00:00:25,067 - Vaccines. - Bill Gates. 7 00:00:25,192 --> 00:00:26,694 - Mail-in ballots. - Chinese virus. 8 00:00:26,777 --> 00:00:28,571 - Drink their blood. - Not nice. 9 00:00:28,654 --> 00:00:31,449 The myths and misinformation they shared with Borat 10 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:34,994 fuel a dangerous rhetoric that is tearing apart societies 11 00:00:35,077 --> 00:00:36,370 in front of our eyes. 12 00:00:36,454 --> 00:00:38,664 In this series of episodes, 13 00:00:38,748 --> 00:00:41,125 we'll introduce Jim and Jerry to world-leading experts, 14 00:00:41,167 --> 00:00:43,002 doctors and academics, 15 00:00:43,085 --> 00:00:44,378 who will address some of 16 00:00:44,462 --> 00:00:46,922 the most dangerous conspiracies head-on, 17 00:00:47,006 --> 00:00:48,674 and debunk them face-to-face. 18 00:00:48,758 --> 00:00:49,759 Hello, Jim and Jerry. 19 00:00:49,842 --> 00:00:51,802 This is Hilary Rodham Clinton. 20 00:00:58,434 --> 00:01:00,394 What do you think about with Bill Gates 21 00:01:00,478 --> 00:01:02,188 and what, uh, the virus? 22 00:01:02,271 --> 00:01:03,522 I mean, the vaccine. 23 00:01:03,606 --> 00:01:05,065 I refuse. I'm not... 24 00:01:05,149 --> 00:01:07,485 It's not gonna happen. You know? 25 00:01:07,568 --> 00:01:09,153 It's like, they've been... he's been running 26 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:10,905 the chip in Africa. 27 00:01:10,988 --> 00:01:13,032 Putting the chips in, in the vaccine shots. 28 00:01:13,115 --> 00:01:15,367 - In the people. - Put the chip in the needle? 29 00:01:15,451 --> 00:01:16,911 - Yes. - Yes. 30 00:01:16,994 --> 00:01:19,288 I understand, when he did a bunch of those vaccines 31 00:01:19,330 --> 00:01:21,916 over there, he killed a bunch of people with that. 32 00:01:26,629 --> 00:01:28,088 The conspiracy theory, 33 00:01:28,172 --> 00:01:29,840 falsely linking Bill Gates 34 00:01:29,924 --> 00:01:32,343 to the concept of microchips in vaccines, 35 00:01:32,426 --> 00:01:36,514 goes back to a theoretical study done at MIT in 2019. 36 00:01:36,597 --> 00:01:38,599 The purpose of the study was to explore 37 00:01:38,682 --> 00:01:40,893 how to improve healthcare in regions 38 00:01:40,976 --> 00:01:42,478 with limited access to medical records 39 00:01:42,561 --> 00:01:45,022 by storing data within the patient. 40 00:01:45,105 --> 00:01:46,857 The solution they considered 41 00:01:46,941 --> 00:01:49,819 used Quantum Dot Dye within vaccines 42 00:01:49,902 --> 00:01:52,363 that contain a person's vaccination history. 43 00:01:52,446 --> 00:01:54,532 A major supporter of the study? 44 00:01:54,615 --> 00:01:56,951 The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. 45 00:01:57,034 --> 00:02:00,329 So, a theoretical study, designed to save lives, 46 00:02:00,412 --> 00:02:02,331 got put through the internet ringer and became, 47 00:02:02,414 --> 00:02:05,751 "Bill Gates is inserting microchips in vaccines 48 00:02:05,835 --> 00:02:07,127 to track the population." 49 00:02:09,505 --> 00:02:12,132 - I'm excited to meet you. - Excited to meet you. 50 00:02:12,216 --> 00:02:13,425 - So, I'm Jennifer. - You're a doctor or something, right? 51 00:02:13,509 --> 00:02:14,552 I'm an epidemiologist. 52 00:02:14,635 --> 00:02:15,928 Jennifer Nuzzo, 53 00:02:16,011 --> 00:02:18,347 with the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School. 54 00:02:18,430 --> 00:02:19,932 Dr. Nuzzo, great to have you back on the NewsHour. 55 00:02:20,015 --> 00:02:22,768 When I think back to who had it right, it's you. 56 00:02:22,852 --> 00:02:24,979 I got a lot of questions for you. 57 00:02:25,062 --> 00:02:29,650 The world is on the brink of a great scientific achievement. 58 00:02:29,733 --> 00:02:35,155 A COVID-19 vaccine will likely be ready by early next year. 59 00:02:35,239 --> 00:02:37,658 I get a lot of questions about the vaccines, 60 00:02:37,741 --> 00:02:39,618 and whether they have microchips in it. 61 00:02:39,702 --> 00:02:42,872 And there's so much misinformation out there. 62 00:02:42,955 --> 00:02:44,373 A lot of people do believe it. 63 00:02:44,456 --> 00:02:46,041 The microchip is, like, 64 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:47,209 - really small, though. - It's like people... 65 00:02:47,293 --> 00:02:49,128 Honestly, it puzzles me why 66 00:02:49,211 --> 00:02:52,798 people think that there are microchips in the vaccines. 67 00:02:52,882 --> 00:02:54,675 Um, in part, because it just doesn't really add up. 68 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:56,510 And the needle is small. 69 00:02:56,594 --> 00:02:58,554 It's less than half a millimeter. 70 00:02:58,637 --> 00:03:00,514 A microchip able to track your movements 71 00:03:00,598 --> 00:03:03,100 would also need to include a battery and an antenna. 72 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:05,769 The smallest possible version of those right now 73 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:07,813 are about the size of a coin. 74 00:03:07,897 --> 00:03:09,356 First of all, how it could 75 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,733 actually even fit through the needle? 76 00:03:12,109 --> 00:03:13,485 It's, it's not possible. 77 00:03:13,569 --> 00:03:15,029 And, at the end of the day, I ask "why"? 78 00:03:15,112 --> 00:03:16,739 Like, why would we do that 79 00:03:16,822 --> 00:03:18,824 when the phones that we carry in our pockets 80 00:03:18,908 --> 00:03:21,243 relay so much more information? 81 00:03:21,327 --> 00:03:23,871 I got to thinking about that, when I first heard about it, 82 00:03:23,954 --> 00:03:26,457 and I thought "I-I don't know if that's true." 83 00:03:26,540 --> 00:03:28,334 I just... I don't know. 84 00:03:28,417 --> 00:03:32,004 We are seeing polls showing 85 00:03:32,087 --> 00:03:34,632 high levels of vaccine hesitancy. 86 00:03:34,715 --> 00:03:37,384 And there is no way, 87 00:03:37,468 --> 00:03:39,094 as long as I'm living, 88 00:03:39,178 --> 00:03:41,096 that my children are going to be injected with that. 89 00:03:41,180 --> 00:03:43,182 We worry that if we let this virus 90 00:03:43,265 --> 00:03:44,934 continue to circulate at high levels, 91 00:03:45,017 --> 00:03:47,728 that we could see the emergence of new genetic mutants. 92 00:03:47,811 --> 00:03:49,563 Or, worst-case scenario, 93 00:03:49,647 --> 00:03:51,857 possibly overcome the vaccine and medicines that we have. 94 00:03:51,941 --> 00:03:53,192 The government is saying, 95 00:03:53,275 --> 00:03:54,735 "Get the vaccine. Get the vaccine." 96 00:03:54,818 --> 00:03:57,821 - Yeah. - Um, "It's safe. It's good. Get it." 97 00:03:57,905 --> 00:04:01,075 But yet, you watch, and you pay attention to the news 98 00:04:01,158 --> 00:04:03,160 over in this area, and they talk about 99 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:04,495 a small number of people 100 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:06,246 that's died from getting the vaccine. 101 00:04:06,330 --> 00:04:08,874 And with the side effects that they're getting from it, 102 00:04:08,958 --> 00:04:11,043 it's, kind of, like, what they're saying, 103 00:04:11,126 --> 00:04:12,211 like cerebral palsy. 104 00:04:12,294 --> 00:04:13,754 When you administer 105 00:04:13,837 --> 00:04:15,589 nearly a billion vaccines worldwide, 106 00:04:15,673 --> 00:04:18,342 it's not surprising to see very rare side effects. 107 00:04:18,425 --> 00:04:21,679 You are much, much, much more likely to die of COVID 108 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:23,305 than from a vaccine. 109 00:04:23,389 --> 00:04:24,807 Any halt in vaccination just shows how carefully 110 00:04:24,890 --> 00:04:26,976 we're watching for side effects. 111 00:04:27,059 --> 00:04:28,769 The terrible thing about these 112 00:04:28,852 --> 00:04:30,521 anti-science conspiracy theories, 113 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:32,773 is that they can have really devastating consequences. 114 00:04:32,856 --> 00:04:36,318 Not only for the individuals who-who hold them, 115 00:04:36,402 --> 00:04:38,070 but for public health. 116 00:04:38,153 --> 00:04:39,154 Microsoft and Google's 117 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,031 first quarter statements 118 00:04:41,115 --> 00:04:43,158 showed record income beyond projected expectations. 119 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:45,619 Online advertising boosted revenues 120 00:04:45,703 --> 00:04:48,664 driven by search results and YouTube autoplays. 121 00:04:48,747 --> 00:04:51,583 The search and autoplay functions are perfectly designed 122 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:54,545 to send viewers down conspiracy theory rabbit holes. 123 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:56,964 Despite promises to keep users safe, 124 00:04:57,047 --> 00:04:59,508 Big Tech makes up to $1 billion a year 125 00:04:59,591 --> 00:05:01,218 from the anti-vax industry, 126 00:05:01,301 --> 00:05:02,594 which threatens the effectiveness 127 00:05:02,678 --> 00:05:04,304 of the coronavirus vaccine. 128 00:05:04,388 --> 00:05:06,348 The vaccine will not go in my body, period. 129 00:05:06,432 --> 00:05:08,183 So, we very much need 130 00:05:08,267 --> 00:05:10,394 a high level of confidence in the vaccine, 131 00:05:10,477 --> 00:05:13,605 a high level of willingness to get vaccinated by everybody, 132 00:05:13,689 --> 00:05:15,858 and a high availability of vaccines 133 00:05:15,941 --> 00:05:18,402 to protect every country on the planet. 134 00:05:18,485 --> 00:05:21,822 Any lingering questions about the vaccines? 135 00:05:21,864 --> 00:05:23,991 We could talk about this all day long. 136 00:05:24,074 --> 00:05:26,201 Listen, please get vaccinated. 137 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:27,453 I want you to get vaccinated. 138 00:05:27,536 --> 00:05:29,538 These vaccines are some of 139 00:05:29,621 --> 00:05:32,332 the best vaccines we have, period. 140 00:05:32,416 --> 00:05:33,792 There have been some scientists who have been working 141 00:05:33,876 --> 00:05:36,128 on coronavirus vaccines for decades. 142 00:05:36,211 --> 00:05:38,839 You know, more than a decade, 15 years. 143 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:41,050 We are all terrified of the idea 144 00:05:41,133 --> 00:05:43,635 of losing our autonomy, losing control over 145 00:05:43,719 --> 00:05:46,263 what we do and-and what we think. 146 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:48,515 And this, I think, is an expression of that larger, 147 00:05:48,599 --> 00:05:50,893 more widespread belief or anxiety. 148 00:05:50,976 --> 00:05:53,687 Just a tiny, little shot, twice, and you're done. 149 00:05:53,771 --> 00:05:54,897 Can't make no promises. 150 00:05:54,980 --> 00:05:55,981 Uh... 151 00:05:56,065 --> 00:05:59,109 ♪ ♪ 152 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:31,183 ♪ ♪ 10851

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