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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,301 --> 00:00:12,387 [tense music playing] 2 00:00:18,601 --> 00:00:20,311 [man] I find beauty in darkness. 3 00:00:23,273 --> 00:00:24,941 It just resonates with my soul. 4 00:00:28,194 --> 00:00:31,489 The music that I do is called black metal. 5 00:00:33,783 --> 00:00:37,370 It's perdition and doom. 6 00:00:40,582 --> 00:00:42,876 Morbid, it's, uh, my stage name. 7 00:00:44,919 --> 00:00:48,339 It's the physical representation of my dark subconscious. 8 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:52,343 Everyone has a shadow self. 9 00:00:52,427 --> 00:00:56,264 Everyone has a secret self that they hide from others. 10 00:00:58,308 --> 00:01:01,853 I believe in, uh, embracing the monster in me. 11 00:01:03,563 --> 00:01:06,316 You know, I can do whatever I want when I'm "Morbid." 12 00:01:07,275 --> 00:01:09,027 Like, I can get away with anything. 13 00:01:09,110 --> 00:01:10,695 [black metal playing] 14 00:01:12,781 --> 00:01:14,491 If it's bloody, then it's bloody. 15 00:01:15,408 --> 00:01:19,162 And sometimes I take it too far. 16 00:01:33,176 --> 00:01:35,678 [woman] This guy Morbid must have killed Elisa Lam. 17 00:01:37,222 --> 00:01:39,140 [woman 2] He was staying at the hotel. 18 00:01:39,682 --> 00:01:43,520 [man] She was a sitting duck and was easily manipulated by this perp punk. 19 00:01:43,603 --> 00:01:45,396 [man 2] Everyone suspects him. 20 00:01:46,231 --> 00:01:48,691 [Harlowe] People thought that all the connections 21 00:01:48,775 --> 00:01:51,236 between this Morbid person… 22 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:53,363 [Morbid] I'm here in the Cecil Hotel. 23 00:01:53,446 --> 00:01:54,531 …and Elisa Lam 24 00:01:55,698 --> 00:01:57,909 could not be just some random coincidence. 25 00:01:59,536 --> 00:02:05,542 So it became this call to action to do something about Morbid. 26 00:02:06,251 --> 00:02:07,961 [man] We need to find him. 27 00:02:08,044 --> 00:02:10,255 [woman] Who is this guy? 28 00:02:10,338 --> 00:02:14,884 [Harlowe] They discover that his real name is Pablo Vergara. 29 00:02:16,261 --> 00:02:18,638 And they started writing to him. 30 00:02:19,139 --> 00:02:21,474 [woman] You killed Elisa Lam, didn't you? 31 00:02:22,058 --> 00:02:23,476 [woman 2] Fucking murderer. 32 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,145 [man] Just tell the truth! 33 00:02:27,188 --> 00:02:31,109 [Harlowe] To their surprise, he responded by posting a video. 34 00:02:31,192 --> 00:02:32,443 [black metal playing] 35 00:02:33,486 --> 00:02:35,155 [distorted voice] This is Morbid. 36 00:02:36,030 --> 00:02:40,326 I wanted to inform you, I am innocent. 37 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:44,455 [uneasy music playing] 38 00:02:44,539 --> 00:02:45,665 [elevator dings] 39 00:02:48,877 --> 00:02:51,504 [camera shutter clicking] 40 00:03:00,722 --> 00:03:03,016 [sounds of traffic] 41 00:03:03,099 --> 00:03:05,351 [horns honking] 42 00:03:09,981 --> 00:03:12,108 [newsman] The initial autopsy is complete, 43 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:16,237 but we are still a long way from knowing what happened to Elisa Lam. 44 00:03:16,321 --> 00:03:17,322 Jina You joins us. 45 00:03:17,405 --> 00:03:20,617 A lot of people were hoping this autopsy would give us answers. 46 00:03:21,117 --> 00:03:23,912 And those answers won't be coming for a while yet. 47 00:03:23,995 --> 00:03:26,289 We spoke with the L.A. coroner's office today, 48 00:03:26,372 --> 00:03:29,459 who told us the cause of death remains inconclusive 49 00:03:29,542 --> 00:03:33,004 and finding out how Elisa Lam died will require more tests. 50 00:03:40,345 --> 00:03:44,265 [Tovar] The coroner's office ultimately has the final say 51 00:03:44,349 --> 00:03:46,726 of what is really going on with that individual. 52 00:03:47,769 --> 00:03:48,853 They have a story, 53 00:03:48,937 --> 00:03:53,566 and in the end, we want to be able to provide that closure to that story. 54 00:03:55,777 --> 00:03:59,155 And in the case of Elisa Lam, after the autopsy, 55 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:04,953 we really didn't know if it was foul play, suicide, or accidental death. 56 00:04:05,703 --> 00:04:10,792 So we had to wait a number of weeks for all the tests to come in. 57 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:15,588 Eventually, I received the toxicology results. 58 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:22,679 Given her bizarre behavior that was seen in the elevator, 59 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:28,309 one possibility is that she is on a drug that is creating hallucinations. 60 00:04:30,478 --> 00:04:32,272 But I didn't identify any evidence 61 00:04:32,355 --> 00:04:36,901 that she was consuming alcohol or abusing any type of illicit drug. 62 00:04:40,697 --> 00:04:45,201 In any case where you have a history of depression or bipolar disorder, 63 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:47,287 one of the things that you can look for 64 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:51,332 is whether or not she took a large number of pills to try to kill herself… 65 00:04:53,459 --> 00:04:54,711 and I didn't find that. 66 00:04:56,754 --> 00:04:58,756 The only drugs actually identified 67 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:02,969 were her prescription medications for her bipolar disorder 68 00:05:03,553 --> 00:05:05,138 that she should have been on. 69 00:05:07,098 --> 00:05:11,352 However, the levels of the medications were very low. 70 00:05:12,603 --> 00:05:13,813 This is interesting. 71 00:05:16,858 --> 00:05:19,986 In looking at the description of the medications 72 00:05:20,069 --> 00:05:22,697 that were found at the scene in her bottles, 73 00:05:24,198 --> 00:05:27,201 there was a higher amount of pills in the bottles 74 00:05:27,285 --> 00:05:31,164 than what should have been in there for that fill date of those prescriptions. 75 00:05:31,873 --> 00:05:36,461 When we went back and looked at all of the levels in the toxicology results, 76 00:05:36,544 --> 00:05:39,630 comparing those to the prescriptions found at the scene, 77 00:05:39,714 --> 00:05:43,926 it also suggests that she was undertaking her medications. 78 00:05:47,263 --> 00:05:48,681 Why would somebody do that? 79 00:05:49,932 --> 00:05:51,559 What's really going on there? 80 00:05:54,312 --> 00:05:58,816 Looking for those answers, it's important we have an idea of her life 81 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:00,526 before she ended up in L.A., 82 00:06:00,610 --> 00:06:04,280 and what may have been playing a role in her final days 83 00:06:04,364 --> 00:06:06,449 before she ended up in the tank. 84 00:06:17,543 --> 00:06:20,004 [Elisa Lam] Where would I be without the internet? 85 00:06:21,422 --> 00:06:23,716 I suppose we roam on the internet 86 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,511 because we aren't able to find in our physical lives 87 00:06:27,428 --> 00:06:29,764 the human connection we need for survival. 88 00:06:30,431 --> 00:06:35,103 So we search endlessly online alone. 89 00:06:38,314 --> 00:06:41,692 [Ho] When trying to solve the mysteries of what happened with Elisa, 90 00:06:42,235 --> 00:06:44,237 it's about piecing together a story 91 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,906 and really getting a more advanced understanding 92 00:06:46,989 --> 00:06:48,825 of what was happening in her mind. 93 00:06:49,450 --> 00:06:51,119 [keyboard clacking] 94 00:06:51,702 --> 00:06:53,579 [Elisa Lam] We can be empathetic here. 95 00:06:55,248 --> 00:06:59,252 Remind people you are human and they are human. 96 00:06:59,961 --> 00:07:03,297 If you just listen, you will understand more. 97 00:07:05,550 --> 00:07:08,261 [Ho] Elisa was a very introspective, bright person, 98 00:07:08,344 --> 00:07:11,389 and as you read her Tumblr, you understand her, 99 00:07:11,472 --> 00:07:13,808 because she bared her soul in these posts. 100 00:07:13,891 --> 00:07:15,852 [keyboard clacking] 101 00:07:15,935 --> 00:07:20,273 [Elisa Lam] According to some people, I have a "chemical imbalance". 102 00:07:21,524 --> 00:07:24,152 Can I just inhabit someone else's brain? 103 00:07:25,528 --> 00:07:29,574 I just wish someone around me could understand. 104 00:07:33,703 --> 00:07:36,914 Bipolar disorder is still very stigmatizing for most people, 105 00:07:36,998 --> 00:07:38,708 and most don't understand it. 106 00:07:41,085 --> 00:07:44,422 It just means that the person's mood instability has highs 107 00:07:44,505 --> 00:07:45,506 and they have lows. 108 00:07:46,799 --> 00:07:49,927 They have depression and they also have mania… 109 00:07:51,304 --> 00:07:56,142 which is not needing a lot of sleep, racing thoughts, being more risk-taking, 110 00:07:56,225 --> 00:08:00,271 and generally the best course of treatment is medication 111 00:08:00,354 --> 00:08:02,482 plus cognitive behavioral therapy. 112 00:08:04,484 --> 00:08:06,277 In some of her Tumblr posts, 113 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Elisa was struggling with the idea of her mental illness 114 00:08:09,363 --> 00:08:11,866 and her medications, having to be on so many. 115 00:08:12,575 --> 00:08:16,913 [Elisa Lam] Taking these pills, I call it the breakfast of champions… 116 00:08:17,788 --> 00:08:19,957 and I hate that I have to take it every day. 117 00:08:20,708 --> 00:08:23,920 [Ho] It appears she had at least four prescription medications. 118 00:08:24,003 --> 00:08:24,837 [camera clicks] 119 00:08:24,921 --> 00:08:29,550 Antidepressants, a mood stabilizer, and an atypical antipsychotic. 120 00:08:30,843 --> 00:08:33,221 [Elisa Lam] I have to pull myself together. 121 00:08:33,846 --> 00:08:36,390 I'm wasting my time compared to my fellow peers. 122 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:42,146 I need a place to go and find my motivation. 123 00:08:44,023 --> 00:08:47,109 [atmospheric music playing] 124 00:08:47,193 --> 00:08:50,029 [Ho] I think Elisa put a lot of pressure on herself 125 00:08:50,112 --> 00:08:52,490 to prove that she could be like everyone else. 126 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:57,245 She may have thought if she could travel by herself and have this adventure, 127 00:08:57,328 --> 00:09:00,122 that means that she was normal, that she was capable. 128 00:09:00,915 --> 00:09:03,918 [Elisa Lam] Bursting with self-esteem and confidence. 129 00:09:06,045 --> 00:09:10,132 Next leg of my whirlwind adventure: the West Coast. 130 00:09:11,634 --> 00:09:14,178 Elisa Lam traveled down towards San Diego, 131 00:09:14,262 --> 00:09:16,681 and then she was making her way up the coast. 132 00:09:18,349 --> 00:09:20,560 [Elisa Lam] Have arrived in La-La Land. 133 00:09:24,522 --> 00:09:28,651 [Marcia] On January 28th, Elisa arrived in Los Angeles 134 00:09:29,819 --> 00:09:31,654 and checked into the hotel. 135 00:09:33,155 --> 00:09:36,325 She spent a few days exploring the city of Los Angeles. 136 00:09:39,036 --> 00:09:42,915 [Ho] It's hard to know what happened, but based on the toxicology report, 137 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:48,546 as the trip was unfolding, I think Elisa stopped taking her medications. 138 00:09:49,630 --> 00:09:52,258 And, of course, once she stops taking the medication, 139 00:09:52,341 --> 00:09:55,553 the risks for a mood episode goes way up. 140 00:09:58,472 --> 00:10:00,808 [Kading] While she is down here in Los Angeles, 141 00:10:01,309 --> 00:10:05,855 she went to Burbank one afternoon to attend a live audience production. 142 00:10:05,938 --> 00:10:07,815 [audience cheers and applause] 143 00:10:11,569 --> 00:10:15,156 But while she's there, she was acting erratically and strangely, 144 00:10:16,032 --> 00:10:18,868 and she writes this long, rambling letter 145 00:10:18,951 --> 00:10:22,872 and demands that that letter be given to the host of this show, 146 00:10:24,123 --> 00:10:27,084 which obviously raises security concerns. 147 00:10:29,795 --> 00:10:34,008 And so, the security there escorted her off the property 148 00:10:34,091 --> 00:10:36,552 because they thought she might be a… a risk. 149 00:10:37,053 --> 00:10:39,180 [sounds of traffic] 150 00:10:39,263 --> 00:10:40,431 Back at the Cecil, 151 00:10:41,015 --> 00:10:44,727 Elisa had been sharing a room at the hotel with a couple other girls. 152 00:10:47,188 --> 00:10:52,193 Those girls had begun to complain about her erratic and odd behavior. 153 00:10:54,570 --> 00:10:58,658 I've never spoken publicly about this, but she was being disruptive. 154 00:10:59,325 --> 00:11:03,329 She was leaving these notes on other guests' beds. 155 00:11:04,121 --> 00:11:05,665 Like physical notes. 156 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:11,671 She was writing, "Go away. Go home. Get out." 157 00:11:12,254 --> 00:11:13,756 [knocking on door] 158 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:17,677 And then, also, when other guests were trying to, you know, access the room, 159 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,303 she wouldn't open the door. 160 00:11:19,387 --> 00:11:20,304 [banging on door] 161 00:11:20,388 --> 00:11:22,098 She was looking for a password. 162 00:11:24,433 --> 00:11:27,436 The night before she was gonna check out, we relocated her 163 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,438 to her own dedicated room. 164 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:31,607 That seemed to be a better option for her. 165 00:11:33,776 --> 00:11:36,570 [siren wailing] 166 00:11:36,654 --> 00:11:41,742 And then, later, she proceeds to go down to the lobby and does… 167 00:11:42,910 --> 00:11:46,664 I don't even know what you would call it. Like, move where she says that, 168 00:11:46,747 --> 00:11:50,084 "I'm crazy, but so is L.A." 169 00:11:53,045 --> 00:11:55,631 At the time, we didn't really look too much into it. 170 00:11:56,173 --> 00:11:58,050 I mean, this is the Cecil Hotel. 171 00:11:59,844 --> 00:12:02,221 It's just one thing out of the day that happens. 172 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:04,640 You just move on. 173 00:12:06,684 --> 00:12:08,686 [tense music playing] 174 00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:18,654 [Marcia] At this point, we were starting to get a picture of her mental state, 175 00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:23,743 based on the fact that Elisa was not taking her medication. 176 00:12:24,952 --> 00:12:29,999 And we were putting a little more weight into the fact that in this condition, 177 00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:33,669 she could easily become a victim of some type of crime. 178 00:12:34,795 --> 00:12:38,215 And so, now our investigation focused on figuring out 179 00:12:38,299 --> 00:12:41,177 exactly how she ended up in the tank. 180 00:12:43,053 --> 00:12:45,890 [Tovar] I felt that it was necessary to see 181 00:12:45,973 --> 00:12:48,726 what the environment looked like where she was found. 182 00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:05,534 We wanted to retrace her steps as best we could. 183 00:13:08,329 --> 00:13:12,458 And when you get onto the rooftop to get to the tank itself, 184 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:18,547 you would actually have to walk on pipes and squeeze in between the tanks 185 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:20,508 to get to the one that she was in. 186 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:24,261 And then you'd have to carry a body up the ladder, 187 00:13:25,262 --> 00:13:29,099 and then place the body into the hole at the top of the tank. 188 00:13:31,477 --> 00:13:36,524 The other possibility is that Elisa's brought there from the adjacent structure, 189 00:13:37,942 --> 00:13:42,613 but you would also then have to come up a ladder with a body. 190 00:13:45,157 --> 00:13:46,784 [Marcia] If she had been killed 191 00:13:46,867 --> 00:13:49,537 or rendered unconscious at another location, 192 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,998 even though she was light, 193 00:13:53,916 --> 00:13:58,629 to carry a body up a steep ladder without damaging the body, 194 00:13:59,171 --> 00:14:00,214 it's not possible. 195 00:14:03,008 --> 00:14:05,427 [Kading] There would have been bruising, cutting, 196 00:14:05,511 --> 00:14:09,431 some trauma to her body that would've been discovered during the autopsy. 197 00:14:10,015 --> 00:14:11,392 None of that existed. 198 00:14:11,976 --> 00:14:13,936 [siren wails] 199 00:14:15,646 --> 00:14:17,147 [tense music plays] 200 00:14:26,365 --> 00:14:28,993 In most cases of individuals that have drowned, 201 00:14:29,076 --> 00:14:33,581 they're usually found floating face-down with their arms drooped and legs drooping. 202 00:14:35,499 --> 00:14:40,254 But when the body was found, it's reported that she is found 203 00:14:40,337 --> 00:14:41,755 floating face-up. 204 00:14:43,132 --> 00:14:46,927 That's a unique finding. It could suggest foul play. 205 00:14:48,262 --> 00:14:51,891 But in looking at the tanks as water's being used, 206 00:14:51,974 --> 00:14:54,226 the water level in there would fluctuate. 207 00:14:56,020 --> 00:15:00,441 I think the flux of the water could have allowed her to turn 208 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:03,485 and end up in the position she was found. 209 00:15:08,115 --> 00:15:10,326 -[distant phone rings] -[keyboard clacking] 210 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:12,494 And in review of the scene, 211 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:19,627 we did not find anything suspicious for any criminal reason why she's dead. 212 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,713 So, at that point in time, 213 00:15:22,796 --> 00:15:27,551 we had the facts, the circumstances, and all of the information 214 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:29,595 in order to generate the final report. 215 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:37,895 [Dean] This long period of basically no information… 216 00:15:37,978 --> 00:15:41,357 You know, the case sort of stalled, at least in the public's eyes. 217 00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:45,527 Everyone is waiting for the release of the autopsy results. 218 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:51,075 And then, finally, on June 21, 2013, the results are released. 219 00:15:52,117 --> 00:15:55,245 [newswoman] The death of 21-year-old Canadian tourist Elisa Lam 220 00:15:55,329 --> 00:15:57,790 has been ruled an accident due to drowning. 221 00:15:59,583 --> 00:16:03,504 The official also suggested Lam's bipolar disorder was a factor. 222 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:08,258 [Lordan] They said that her cause of death is an accidental drowning, 223 00:16:08,342 --> 00:16:12,096 and bipolar disorder is a contributing factor. 224 00:16:12,179 --> 00:16:13,430 It didn't make sense. 225 00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:17,017 The whole community is kind of in shock. 226 00:16:18,686 --> 00:16:20,354 An "accidental drowning." 227 00:16:20,437 --> 00:16:21,897 Supposedly "drowned accidentally." 228 00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:24,942 They found it was an accident. Is it, though? 229 00:16:25,025 --> 00:16:26,443 This can't be. 230 00:16:26,527 --> 00:16:29,071 I have spent hours and hours investigating this, 231 00:16:29,154 --> 00:16:32,282 and I completely disagree with the coroner. 232 00:16:33,534 --> 00:16:35,369 It just doesn't make sense. 233 00:16:36,161 --> 00:16:38,080 Especially when the LAPD said 234 00:16:38,163 --> 00:16:40,749 the whole lid is over her and the hatch is closed. 235 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:44,920 My understanding is that lid was closed when our officers went up. 236 00:16:45,587 --> 00:16:51,427 Someone put her in it and closed the lid. That would only mean she was murdered. 237 00:16:53,095 --> 00:16:57,516 [Sobhani] I think everybody felt that it would be ruled as a homicide, 238 00:16:57,599 --> 00:17:00,436 so it made you want to delve further into the autopsy 239 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:03,147 to see how people could make sense of this. 240 00:17:03,772 --> 00:17:07,443 So I found a link to Elisa's autopsy report… 241 00:17:14,324 --> 00:17:16,952 which I actually went through, page by page. 242 00:17:17,786 --> 00:17:21,290 What's really curious here is this… 243 00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,502 A rape kit was processed and nothing was found, 244 00:17:25,586 --> 00:17:28,881 but if it wasn't some type of sexual assault, 245 00:17:29,673 --> 00:17:31,300 why would she get naked? 246 00:17:32,593 --> 00:17:37,389 The autopsy also said there's no evidence of internal or external injuries. 247 00:17:38,265 --> 00:17:40,768 [Lordan] Just because there were no marks on her body, 248 00:17:40,851 --> 00:17:42,853 that doesn't rule out foul play. 249 00:17:42,936 --> 00:17:45,397 She could've been led to the rooftop by gunpoint, 250 00:17:45,481 --> 00:17:47,441 forced into the tank and left to die. 251 00:17:47,524 --> 00:17:49,193 That sounds like foul play to me. 252 00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:55,199 The coroner said the reason she died was based on medication she was not taking, 253 00:17:55,783 --> 00:17:58,368 but I just have a very tough time believing that. 254 00:17:58,452 --> 00:18:00,913 [Garcia] I've never read anything that sounds like 255 00:18:00,996 --> 00:18:04,166 those that are in a bipolar state would do something like this. 256 00:18:05,042 --> 00:18:08,337 I don't think her mental state was her cause of death. 257 00:18:12,883 --> 00:18:14,843 [Harlowe] I've looked at a lot of autopsy reports 258 00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:18,013 and there's something mysterious and suspicious going on here. 259 00:18:18,847 --> 00:18:22,226 It seems like there's inconsistencies in the autopsy. 260 00:18:22,935 --> 00:18:25,437 Tovar appears to be ambivalent about his conclusion 261 00:18:25,521 --> 00:18:27,147 that Lam's death was accidental. 262 00:18:29,149 --> 00:18:33,529 There's a section on the autopsy report where it is the manner of death. 263 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:41,245 They've got homicide, suicide, accidental, and they've got undetermined. 264 00:18:42,204 --> 00:18:46,208 It looks like undetermined was originally marked, 265 00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:51,421 but then it was X'd out and accident was marked. 266 00:18:53,298 --> 00:18:54,716 [keyboard clacking] 267 00:18:55,551 --> 00:19:00,055 And on top of this, it seems like the change was three days apart. 268 00:19:02,015 --> 00:19:05,602 [Garcia] I don't know how'd they go from "could not be determined" to "accidental"? 269 00:19:05,686 --> 00:19:06,937 Why was it changed? 270 00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:11,150 It almost seems like someone's boss said, "No, we need to change that. 271 00:19:11,233 --> 00:19:12,484 Make it an accident." 272 00:19:14,528 --> 00:19:18,782 Maybe that was LAPD pulling some strings in their coroner's department, 273 00:19:19,575 --> 00:19:22,661 calling it an accident to hide the truth. 274 00:19:23,287 --> 00:19:25,956 [Garcia] It's an easy way out, just to close the case. 275 00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:30,335 They just want to silence it because they have something to hide. 276 00:19:30,878 --> 00:19:31,837 [keyboard clacking] 277 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,716 [Lordan] I've gone looking for information about the investigation, 278 00:19:36,425 --> 00:19:38,260 but I haven't seen the police files, 279 00:19:39,386 --> 00:19:41,430 and that raises questions in itself. 280 00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:45,017 [Harlowe] Many people have requested the police report, 281 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:46,935 but nobody has ever received it. 282 00:19:50,272 --> 00:19:52,649 [Lordan] I was thinking, "Well, obviously, 283 00:19:52,733 --> 00:19:56,361 this confirms that there's some type of conspiracy that's going on here." 284 00:19:59,323 --> 00:20:01,074 [Harlowe] For the online community, 285 00:20:01,658 --> 00:20:05,245 it suggests a much higher level of corruption. 286 00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:08,707 This conspiracy was orchestrated, 287 00:20:08,790 --> 00:20:11,835 and these people were working on it together. 288 00:20:12,628 --> 00:20:15,005 The people involved in this overarching cover-up… 289 00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:19,009 are the LAPD… 290 00:20:21,887 --> 00:20:22,846 the coroner… 291 00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:26,725 the general manager of the Cecil… 292 00:20:28,685 --> 00:20:30,604 the employee that found her. 293 00:20:31,688 --> 00:20:36,360 And then you've got the person staying at the Cecil 294 00:20:36,944 --> 00:20:40,989 who people thought murdered Elisa. 295 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:48,747 [man] Thanks for sitting down with us. 296 00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:52,000 I know it's not easy to talk about this stuff. 297 00:20:54,211 --> 00:20:56,880 I have-- I haven't talked about this in seven years. 298 00:20:58,257 --> 00:21:01,260 But I just realized that you can't solve anything 299 00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:05,180 by running away from your problems. Like, you have to face them… 300 00:21:06,556 --> 00:21:07,599 no matter how… 301 00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:10,686 how heavy they are. 302 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:17,693 [computer chiming] 303 00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:23,115 [Vergara] This whole incident started in February 2013. 304 00:21:24,741 --> 00:21:30,122 I woke up, and, uh, my friend, she had sent me a message. 305 00:21:38,422 --> 00:21:39,756 BREAKING NEWS ANNOUNCEMENT 306 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,719 The link took me into this Taiwanese TV channel. 307 00:21:45,595 --> 00:21:48,640 [man in Chinese] Morbid, the lead singer of Dynasty of Darkness, worships Satan. 308 00:21:48,724 --> 00:21:51,310 His music revolves around corpses and death. 309 00:21:51,893 --> 00:21:54,229 He is now considered the murderer of Elisa Lam. 310 00:21:56,064 --> 00:21:57,858 [Vergara in English] I see my picture. 311 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:04,531 And, um, they're saying I'm a suspect for… for murder. 312 00:22:05,115 --> 00:22:06,742 Murder of Elisa Lam. 313 00:22:06,825 --> 00:22:09,494 [man in Chinese] This lead singer wrote messages online, 314 00:22:09,578 --> 00:22:12,414 days before the case, suggesting that he killed someone. 315 00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:16,501 [computer chiming] 316 00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:21,048 [Vergara in English] Suddenly, I start getting like just hundreds of messages 317 00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:22,674 from people from the whole world. 318 00:22:22,758 --> 00:22:24,968 [woman] Did you murder Elisa Lam? 319 00:22:25,552 --> 00:22:28,013 [man] You killed Elisa Lam, didn't you? 320 00:22:28,096 --> 00:22:30,599 "We hate you. Fucking murderer. 321 00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:31,808 Why did you do it?" 322 00:22:32,809 --> 00:22:35,270 [woman 2] We're gonna get you for what you did. 323 00:22:37,773 --> 00:22:40,192 [Vergara] I was shocked, confused. 324 00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:45,489 You know, because prior to that, I have never heard about Elisa Lam before. 325 00:22:51,995 --> 00:22:53,372 [banging on door] 326 00:22:55,457 --> 00:22:56,792 [door creaks] 327 00:22:57,501 --> 00:23:01,171 After that, the PGR, which is the FBI of Mexico, 328 00:23:01,254 --> 00:23:02,631 did come to my home. 329 00:23:03,131 --> 00:23:08,261 And they asked me if I have made any blood sacrifices 330 00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:09,888 for the devil with animals. 331 00:23:09,971 --> 00:23:11,598 [indistinct chattering] 332 00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:15,769 But I was never charged. Nothing. 333 00:23:19,106 --> 00:23:24,694 Later on, I realize that I was being accused of being the killer 334 00:23:25,362 --> 00:23:30,117 just because the web sleuths found a video of me 335 00:23:30,826 --> 00:23:35,414 that I posted on the internet when I was staying at the Cecil Hotel. 336 00:23:36,206 --> 00:23:37,457 Well, uh, hello. 337 00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:42,921 I'm here in the Cecil Hotel, downtown L.A. 338 00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:48,552 [Vergara] I was there in February, 2012, for three days, 339 00:23:49,136 --> 00:23:50,220 and that was it. 340 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,721 [yells indistinctly] 341 00:23:53,598 --> 00:23:55,183 I keep doing that all the time. 342 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:59,271 I wonder if people are starting to freak out about that shit. 343 00:24:00,063 --> 00:24:04,317 It was one year prior to when Elisa Lam checked in. 344 00:24:10,157 --> 00:24:13,702 And when she died, I wasn't even in the country. 345 00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:16,955 I was in Mexico working on my album. 346 00:24:18,874 --> 00:24:20,834 I have contracts from the recording studio, 347 00:24:20,917 --> 00:24:23,628 I have stamps on my passport. 348 00:24:24,129 --> 00:24:26,673 And even though I have all these, the web sleuths, 349 00:24:26,756 --> 00:24:29,092 they saw me, the way I look… 350 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:33,013 and that's what triggered them. 351 00:24:33,096 --> 00:24:34,389 [black metal playing] 352 00:24:38,935 --> 00:24:43,148 Sure, I mean, some of the lyrics talk about death and murder or whatever, 353 00:24:43,940 --> 00:24:48,403 but, you know, it's just lyrics. It's just music. It's art. 354 00:24:50,614 --> 00:24:52,157 It doesn't make me a killer. 355 00:24:56,578 --> 00:25:00,457 I wanted to set the record straight and just, you know, defend myself. 356 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:04,503 So, you know, I made a video where I said I'm innocent. 357 00:25:05,921 --> 00:25:07,797 [distorted voice] This is Morbid. 358 00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:13,053 I wanted to inform you that I didn't kill Elisa Lam. 359 00:25:14,012 --> 00:25:15,972 I am innocent. 360 00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:23,104 I decided to alter my voice, wear a mask because I was just paranoid. 361 00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:27,192 But the web sleuths, they wouldn't let it go. 362 00:25:27,817 --> 00:25:32,447 They flagged my accounts, and I ended up getting my YouTube channel, 363 00:25:33,281 --> 00:25:36,993 my Facebook account, and my email account terminated. 364 00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:42,165 Being truthful doesn't matter to them. They want to destroy you. They hate you. 365 00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:44,501 [black metal playing] 366 00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:55,470 There were just, you know, false accusations, death threats. 367 00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:59,558 Every day, every week… 368 00:26:00,684 --> 00:26:01,726 there was no escape. 369 00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:07,691 At a point when you get so much hate and just negativity, 370 00:26:07,774 --> 00:26:10,443 there's something that breaks in your mind. 371 00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:12,070 Something clicks. 372 00:26:12,153 --> 00:26:14,447 [screaming] 373 00:26:17,826 --> 00:26:22,038 Like, after a while, just, you know, so much you can take. 374 00:26:22,122 --> 00:26:23,540 [reflective music plays] 375 00:26:26,167 --> 00:26:29,713 Like, you can't defend your life, your music and art. 376 00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:36,094 And, I mean, no matter how strong you are, you feel powerless. 377 00:26:37,887 --> 00:26:39,306 I got in a very bad place. 378 00:26:40,307 --> 00:26:42,309 I-I guess I just had a meltdown, 379 00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:45,270 and I-I did try to take my life, and, uh… 380 00:26:46,354 --> 00:26:50,442 Just wake up in a psychiatric hospital. 381 00:26:53,653 --> 00:26:56,906 The web sleuths go on with their life like nothing happened. 382 00:26:58,658 --> 00:27:02,037 But, you know, they really turned my life upside down. 383 00:27:03,288 --> 00:27:07,834 I do feel like I have lost my freedom of expression. 384 00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:12,297 I actually haven't made any more music, 385 00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:15,717 and, uh, when I try, it's not the same. 386 00:27:17,761 --> 00:27:20,680 I'm trying to rebuild my life and everything, but… 387 00:27:20,764 --> 00:27:23,433 it sucks every day. 388 00:27:24,893 --> 00:27:26,019 It's never going away. 389 00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:30,357 And, um, I have to live with it for the rest of my life. 390 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,651 It's gonna be there for the rest of my life. 391 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:35,737 [siren wailing] 392 00:27:39,783 --> 00:27:41,201 [distant phone rings] 393 00:27:43,745 --> 00:27:45,955 [Marcia] I remember some bizarre thing 394 00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:49,292 where the web sleuths were trying to connect Elisa's case 395 00:27:49,376 --> 00:27:51,211 to some singer in Mexico, 396 00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:55,256 but all I can say is that he's not involved. 397 00:27:58,051 --> 00:27:59,511 I can understand the web sleuths 398 00:27:59,594 --> 00:28:02,889 were trying to do the right things for the right reasons, like we are. 399 00:28:05,225 --> 00:28:06,434 You get addicted to it. 400 00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:09,396 The challenge of putting pieces together. 401 00:28:09,479 --> 00:28:12,065 The excitement of being on the chase. 402 00:28:13,149 --> 00:28:14,317 But in this case, 403 00:28:14,401 --> 00:28:17,487 they were getting further and further away from the evidence. 404 00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:25,120 [Tovar] All of the background information that's used to rule this as an accident 405 00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:28,707 is not necessarily made available to the public, 406 00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:32,377 so I think that for people on the internet, 407 00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:36,005 you really don't have the full story in front of you. 408 00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:37,966 You don't have all of the facts. 409 00:28:39,092 --> 00:28:40,260 [distant phone ringing] 410 00:28:43,054 --> 00:28:45,765 [Marcia] In the early stages of the investigation, 411 00:28:45,849 --> 00:28:47,475 when talking to the family, 412 00:28:47,976 --> 00:28:51,771 it wasn't divulged how serious her mental health was. 413 00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:59,529 As time went by, we learned from Elisa's sister 414 00:29:00,071 --> 00:29:04,617 that Elisa had a history of not taking her medication… 415 00:29:07,704 --> 00:29:10,331 and several times previously, 416 00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:14,878 that had caused her to have some type of mental breakdown. 417 00:29:15,670 --> 00:29:19,382 [Kading] According to her family, she would become delusional. 418 00:29:19,466 --> 00:29:21,301 She sees things that aren't there. 419 00:29:22,302 --> 00:29:24,721 In fact, it had been so bad, 420 00:29:25,472 --> 00:29:27,724 that on at least one occasion, 421 00:29:28,558 --> 00:29:30,185 she had to be hospitalized. 422 00:29:31,644 --> 00:29:36,524 [Ho] Based on the evidence that we have, Elisa looked like she had bipolar I… 423 00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:42,614 which means it's the more severe version of bipolar disorder, 424 00:29:43,907 --> 00:29:46,868 in which sometimes psychotic features can be a part of that. 425 00:29:50,038 --> 00:29:52,749 In that state, you have very disorganized thinking 426 00:29:52,832 --> 00:29:55,293 where the logic doesn't really make sense, 427 00:29:56,336 --> 00:29:58,713 and it's hard to separate fantasy from reality. 428 00:29:59,881 --> 00:30:04,052 I think that when you look at the reports of her behavior at the hotel, 429 00:30:04,844 --> 00:30:06,846 to then this TV taping, 430 00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:10,099 and even the infamous elevator video… 431 00:30:11,935 --> 00:30:15,396 that, to me, is consistent with somebody in the middle of a psychotic episode. 432 00:30:18,441 --> 00:30:23,363 [Kading] The night of her disappearance, she appears to be alone in the hotel. 433 00:30:25,114 --> 00:30:26,115 [elevator dings] 434 00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:29,369 And then she gets into the elevator. 435 00:30:30,537 --> 00:30:31,996 [uneasy music playing] 436 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:44,342 [Ho] In that elevator video, her behavior is consistent with somebody 437 00:30:44,425 --> 00:30:47,887 who is having delusions of paranoia and delusions of persecution. 438 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:52,016 She looked like she could be having hallucinations. 439 00:30:53,434 --> 00:30:56,354 And her sister said this is a pattern that she's had. 440 00:30:56,437 --> 00:31:01,150 [Marcia] We learned that previously, in the midst of having an episode, 441 00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:04,195 she would be afraid that somebody was after her. 442 00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:08,825 [Ho] She might see things that aren't there or hear voices. 443 00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:13,621 And the voices can be saying very frightening things, 444 00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:17,417 that somebody might be out to harm you or that you should go kill yourself. 445 00:31:18,376 --> 00:31:20,211 And there's no way to shut them out. 446 00:31:24,591 --> 00:31:27,302 [Kading] Elisa Lam was in a state of desperation, 447 00:31:28,761 --> 00:31:31,598 running from something that she is seeing in her mind. 448 00:31:32,974 --> 00:31:35,184 [Ho] When she's in that state, it does feel very real, 449 00:31:35,268 --> 00:31:37,270 that she's being hunted. 450 00:31:37,353 --> 00:31:40,607 She believes that her life is at stake, like there's nowhere safe. 451 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:44,277 She's running around this hotel, trying to save her own life. 452 00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:48,781 [Kading] Elisa Lam's sister said that in the past, 453 00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:51,868 she would become frightened, uh, she would become delusional. 454 00:31:51,951 --> 00:31:54,454 She would run and hide. She'd hide under the bed. 455 00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:58,082 [female voice shuddering] 456 00:31:58,166 --> 00:32:01,336 [Kading] At this point in time, she made her way up to the roof. 457 00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:06,341 And it would make perfect sense that she saw the water tank 458 00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:07,842 as her place to hide. 459 00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:11,054 She climbed the ladder… 460 00:32:14,223 --> 00:32:15,475 opened the hatch… 461 00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:20,063 and jumped into the water tank. 462 00:32:23,483 --> 00:32:26,527 Once she was in there though, there was one way out. 463 00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:27,695 The hatch on top. 464 00:32:32,492 --> 00:32:35,912 If it's filled with water, you could pull yourself out. 465 00:32:39,248 --> 00:32:43,336 But if the water's being used and going down, 466 00:32:44,003 --> 00:32:46,547 it would make it more difficult to reach the top. 467 00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:51,386 I think she became trapped, 468 00:32:51,928 --> 00:32:54,305 and the only way to keep alive 469 00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:57,433 would be to tread the water and swim as much as she can. 470 00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,856 She was undressing while she was in there 471 00:33:05,108 --> 00:33:07,819 because she may have been trying to stay afloat 472 00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:10,113 and lighten the load a little bit. 473 00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:16,577 There was also the possibility of hypothermia. 474 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:21,374 The water could reach a very low temperature. 475 00:33:22,709 --> 00:33:26,379 In that situation, individuals actually start to undress 476 00:33:27,088 --> 00:33:31,551 because of the physiologic changes that are happening inside the body. 477 00:33:37,098 --> 00:33:41,102 But she ultimately succumbed to… to drowning. 478 00:33:44,063 --> 00:33:45,523 Sad end to this story. 479 00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:54,323 Looking back, 480 00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:58,828 there was no conclusive evidence there was any type of foul play. 481 00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:05,084 There was no way to prove that she had the intent to harm herself 482 00:34:05,168 --> 00:34:06,586 in her state of mind, 483 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,924 so I don't think that she committed suicide. 484 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,055 I feel confident in my decision 485 00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:19,932 to rule this as a drowning and as an accident, 486 00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:24,687 with bipolar as a significant contributing condition. 487 00:34:25,897 --> 00:34:30,568 It's important for people to understand bipolar disorder. 488 00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:34,238 It is a disease, and it can take its toll at any time. 489 00:34:36,282 --> 00:34:38,117 [somber music playing] 490 00:34:40,536 --> 00:34:42,205 I'm aware there are some concerns 491 00:34:42,288 --> 00:34:46,125 regarding the actual dating on the reporting form. 492 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,507 In this particular case, we're human. There was an error. 493 00:34:53,341 --> 00:34:57,053 We initialed the error, and then we moved it to where it should be. 494 00:34:58,012 --> 00:35:00,681 And if you actually zoom in on those particular dates, 495 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:05,228 you'll see that they both say the 18th and not 15th and 18th, 496 00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:09,190 so, it was just… it's just a… a misread. 497 00:35:09,857 --> 00:35:11,192 [phone ringing] 498 00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:19,826 [Marcia] Now, some people still feel that there's some type of conspiracy 499 00:35:20,409 --> 00:35:25,456 to cut out portions of the video to protect the identity of the killer. 500 00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:30,503 You see the cut when the door is about to close. 501 00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:33,381 The video has been slowed down. 502 00:35:33,464 --> 00:35:37,593 The time code definitely looks like it's been blurred or tampered with. 503 00:35:38,886 --> 00:35:40,471 In this type of investigation, 504 00:35:41,848 --> 00:35:44,976 sometimes you want to withhold certain details from the public, 505 00:35:45,726 --> 00:35:48,271 like the exact time that she was in the elevator, 506 00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:53,067 which is the reason maybe that the timecoding on the video 507 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:54,318 is altered. 508 00:35:55,862 --> 00:35:59,365 One of the reasons that you might slow the speed of the video 509 00:35:59,448 --> 00:36:02,285 is so that hopefully somebody will recognize her. 510 00:36:02,994 --> 00:36:05,705 Look, I can't give a concrete answer 511 00:36:05,788 --> 00:36:07,832 on if our media relations 512 00:36:07,915 --> 00:36:12,336 or if the independent media outlets 513 00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:14,714 actually edited it for one reason or another, 514 00:36:15,798 --> 00:36:19,468 but I do know that any changes to the video 515 00:36:20,052 --> 00:36:22,763 weren't made by anybody at the hotel. 516 00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:25,266 The evidence is gonna speak for itself. 517 00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:30,354 And there was nothing suspicious 518 00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:33,733 about the actual original hard drive video, 519 00:36:33,816 --> 00:36:35,526 which we have in our custody. 520 00:36:41,115 --> 00:36:43,075 [Kading] Then there's all the questions 521 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:46,454 about how there may have been some oversight 522 00:36:47,747 --> 00:36:49,081 by the LAPD, 523 00:36:49,165 --> 00:36:53,002 because they didn't search the tanks at that time. 524 00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:58,966 And I know those investigators regret that they didn't discover her in the tank. 525 00:37:01,677 --> 00:37:03,012 [Marcia] She was in there. 526 00:37:03,846 --> 00:37:05,014 Just missed her. 527 00:37:06,974 --> 00:37:07,934 It sucks. 528 00:37:09,185 --> 00:37:13,606 And I'm guessing you can see the emotion that it stirs up in me, 529 00:37:15,149 --> 00:37:17,568 because you don't forget. 530 00:37:18,486 --> 00:37:19,695 And in this case, 531 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:22,240 we figured out what happened. 532 00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,661 But the answer hurt. 533 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,288 So… [sighs] 534 00:37:29,956 --> 00:37:33,209 It's unfortunate that some people think there's a conspiracy, 535 00:37:33,876 --> 00:37:34,877 but there's not. 536 00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:38,547 [horns honking] 537 00:37:45,388 --> 00:37:47,974 [Dean] We spent so much time fixating on the mystery 538 00:37:48,057 --> 00:37:50,977 and all of the intrigue and bizarreness of the tale, 539 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,814 we forget that family and friends, 540 00:37:54,897 --> 00:37:57,817 people who cared about Elisa and knew her and loved her, 541 00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:59,902 look at a case like this very differently. 542 00:37:59,986 --> 00:38:01,904 For them, this has got to be… 543 00:38:01,988 --> 00:38:03,948 You know, it's hell. It's traumatic. 544 00:38:04,031 --> 00:38:05,533 It's heartbreaking. 545 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,911 [newswoman] Outside the family's restaurant near Vancouver, 546 00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:13,207 a memorial for a young life lost too soon 547 00:38:13,749 --> 00:38:15,751 in an unforgettable manner. 548 00:38:21,507 --> 00:38:22,425 [cameras clicking] 549 00:38:22,508 --> 00:38:25,094 [Dean] On September 19th, 2013, 550 00:38:25,636 --> 00:38:28,931 Elisa's parents filed suit against the Cecil Hotel. 551 00:38:30,641 --> 00:38:33,477 It seemed like they believed this was an accidental drowning, 552 00:38:35,354 --> 00:38:40,401 but the lawsuit alleged a wrongful death caused by negligence on the hotel's part. 553 00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:44,030 So I did go to the hearing myself… 554 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,409 just to see if I could get more information. 555 00:38:49,535 --> 00:38:51,162 [gavel pounds] 556 00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:56,250 One of the points that the Lam family's attorney brought up was 557 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:58,961 there was risk on the roof, 558 00:39:00,755 --> 00:39:04,842 and that they really should have done more to stop the public from going up there. 559 00:39:10,306 --> 00:39:15,186 Our legal counsel countered that we did take security precautions. 560 00:39:16,270 --> 00:39:19,023 The roof is employees only, 561 00:39:20,649 --> 00:39:25,363 and the door to the roof, you know, it's, uh, alarmed always. 562 00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:27,198 [alarm blares] 563 00:39:27,281 --> 00:39:29,158 But the exterior fire escapes, 564 00:39:29,784 --> 00:39:31,535 they're accessible to anybody, 565 00:39:31,619 --> 00:39:34,705 because, in case of an emergency, you have to get out. 566 00:39:36,082 --> 00:39:38,376 In terms of the tanks themselves, 567 00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:41,670 outside of the risk of someone falling in, 568 00:39:42,171 --> 00:39:43,255 there's a big risk 569 00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:46,509 because that water could be contaminated by someone very easily. 570 00:39:47,051 --> 00:39:48,803 It is extremely simple. 571 00:39:49,678 --> 00:39:50,846 Lock the lids. 572 00:39:52,431 --> 00:39:55,101 [Price] There were no regulations at that point 573 00:39:55,184 --> 00:39:57,103 where you had to lock your water tank. 574 00:39:58,145 --> 00:40:01,774 I'm sure people are locking their water tanks now, but they weren't then. 575 00:40:04,819 --> 00:40:07,446 [Lordan] Something I personally still wanted to understand better 576 00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:10,491 was the status of the actual tank lid. 577 00:40:12,493 --> 00:40:14,120 The story from the police 578 00:40:15,538 --> 00:40:17,456 is the lid is closed. 579 00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:22,503 So, then, how could Elisa have closed the lid on herself? 580 00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:27,216 The employee that found her, his name is Santiago Lopez. 581 00:40:27,883 --> 00:40:31,554 He reports to the court that he climbs up on top of the tank, 582 00:40:32,304 --> 00:40:33,180 and the hatch… 583 00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:36,684 is open. 584 00:40:40,771 --> 00:40:42,356 It's shocking new information. 585 00:40:44,024 --> 00:40:49,447 This completely changes the scope of possibilities for how she died. 586 00:40:54,118 --> 00:40:55,870 [man in Spanish] The tank had a little hatch? 587 00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:57,830 A little door like this. 588 00:40:57,913 --> 00:41:00,249 When I got there that day, it was open. 589 00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:04,003 -That's when I saw her. -[man] It was already open? 590 00:41:04,086 --> 00:41:04,920 Mm-hmm. 591 00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:08,757 [helicopter whirring] 592 00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:14,013 [Marcia in English] In regards to Elisa's body being found, 593 00:41:14,805 --> 00:41:16,432 it was reported to us 594 00:41:16,515 --> 00:41:19,310 that a hotel employee climbed up the ladder. 595 00:41:19,393 --> 00:41:21,353 The hatch was open… 596 00:41:23,689 --> 00:41:26,609 but that's not what was reported in the media. 597 00:41:27,276 --> 00:41:30,529 My understanding is that lid was closed when our officers went up. 598 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,240 [Kading] This was a communication breakdown. 599 00:41:33,991 --> 00:41:37,328 Somebody said it was closed and meant to say it was open. 600 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:39,371 It's an honest mistake. 601 00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:44,293 Outside of all that, 602 00:41:45,586 --> 00:41:48,547 you have the Lams' attorney 603 00:41:48,631 --> 00:41:50,883 saying that the hotel's responsibility here 604 00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:53,844 should have been trying to help Elisa. 605 00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:59,350 Because Elisa Lam was a guest of the Stay on Main in the Cecil Hotel, 606 00:41:59,433 --> 00:42:02,645 once she began exhibiting behavior that was abnormal, 607 00:42:03,229 --> 00:42:06,398 I think there was an obligation for responsible parties to recognize 608 00:42:06,482 --> 00:42:10,152 that this person who was in their care was not in her right mind 609 00:42:10,236 --> 00:42:11,362 and needed some help. 610 00:42:11,946 --> 00:42:14,281 If somebody had asked her, "Are you okay? 611 00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:16,534 Where's your family? Can we contact them?" 612 00:42:16,617 --> 00:42:18,285 Maybe that would've made a difference. 613 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,082 [Price] As a manager, how far do you go 614 00:42:23,165 --> 00:42:26,502 as far as taking precautions to… to know if people are okay? 615 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,299 Her behavior was bizarre, but not enough to be, you know, calling officials in. 616 00:42:34,677 --> 00:42:37,054 And, you know, I would have to ask myself, 617 00:42:37,137 --> 00:42:38,806 "If I had called 911, 618 00:42:39,473 --> 00:42:40,933 would anybody have come?" 619 00:42:41,517 --> 00:42:44,395 A lot of times, when you call the police, they don't answer. 620 00:42:44,478 --> 00:42:45,688 [siren whooping] 621 00:42:45,771 --> 00:42:48,857 There's so much going on in this area. 622 00:42:48,941 --> 00:42:51,068 There's this huge problem. 623 00:42:51,151 --> 00:42:52,444 [siren wailing] 624 00:42:52,528 --> 00:42:54,989 You know, It's just so overwhelming for the police 625 00:42:55,698 --> 00:42:57,825 and for everybody involved. 626 00:42:59,994 --> 00:43:04,456 What happened to Elisa Lam is horrendous, but it isn't because of the hotel. 627 00:43:05,791 --> 00:43:08,586 We were not responsible for her death. 628 00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:10,921 We're just not responsible. 629 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,507 [people chattering indistinctly] 630 00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:19,388 [Dean] The judge ultimately ruled for the hotel, 631 00:43:20,764 --> 00:43:22,933 and the wrongful death case was dismissed. 632 00:43:27,229 --> 00:43:29,565 Learning the lid was actually off the tank… 633 00:43:30,399 --> 00:43:32,067 it's a very big deal. 634 00:43:33,902 --> 00:43:37,281 That was the moment where it really changed for me. 635 00:43:38,032 --> 00:43:41,452 It basically ruled out the last possibility 636 00:43:41,535 --> 00:43:44,038 that there could've been foul play in this case, 637 00:43:45,205 --> 00:43:47,416 and I realized that ultimately 638 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,129 this is a tragedy about a woman who was suffering. 639 00:43:57,134 --> 00:44:02,056 [Sobhani] We saw, you know, the elevator going up and down in that video. 640 00:44:04,058 --> 00:44:06,060 [woman] This is the floor she stayed on. 641 00:44:06,685 --> 00:44:08,103 [Sobhani] For quite a while, 642 00:44:08,687 --> 00:44:11,023 I held onto the belief that this was homicide, 643 00:44:11,106 --> 00:44:14,109 and I was almost 100 percent sure about it. 644 00:44:16,153 --> 00:44:18,238 In trying to make sense of this, 645 00:44:19,907 --> 00:44:23,994 I felt that seeing her grave site would help me get closer to closure. 646 00:44:24,078 --> 00:44:25,663 [birds chirping] 647 00:44:28,707 --> 00:44:33,170 I had someone who was kind enough to go and film. 648 00:44:34,963 --> 00:44:38,133 And, uh, he put his hand on her gravestone for me. 649 00:44:41,470 --> 00:44:46,433 Now I realize that the way to honor her is to accept the truth, 650 00:44:47,518 --> 00:44:52,147 that this was a tragedy of an accidental death. 651 00:44:55,859 --> 00:44:58,987 [man] I think it's pretty clear what really happened to her. 652 00:44:59,822 --> 00:45:02,157 When you look into every facet of what happened, 653 00:45:02,241 --> 00:45:03,784 it's all entirely explainable. 654 00:45:03,867 --> 00:45:05,285 [keyboard clacking] 655 00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:10,874 But it's still widely touted as an internet mystery, 656 00:45:11,834 --> 00:45:13,585 modern urban legend, 657 00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:15,421 an unsolved story. 658 00:45:16,505 --> 00:45:18,424 [uneasy music playing] 659 00:45:21,427 --> 00:45:24,304 [Mungin] When people hear the story of the Elisa Lam case, 660 00:45:25,305 --> 00:45:28,142 you have this cultural phenomenon that takes weight… 661 00:45:28,225 --> 00:45:29,893 [keyboard clacking] 662 00:45:29,977 --> 00:45:32,604 …which allows for this groundswell to occur. 663 00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:36,108 -[man] I can't stop thinking about it. -[man 2] I need to know what happened. 664 00:45:36,191 --> 00:45:37,818 [woman] I've watched it 1,000 times. 665 00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:42,823 [Mungin] I think that people hope that there was a killer, 666 00:45:44,825 --> 00:45:49,079 or they hope that their own conspiracy theories would come true. 667 00:45:51,915 --> 00:45:55,544 Because the reality of it is much sadder. 668 00:46:01,049 --> 00:46:01,884 All right. 669 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,013 I re-watched all my videos before coming here to do this, 670 00:46:06,096 --> 00:46:09,308 and I could see how conspiracy-minded I was. 671 00:46:09,391 --> 00:46:11,727 My gut keeps leaning towards… 672 00:46:11,810 --> 00:46:17,191 I was caught up on all these bizarre parallels 673 00:46:17,274 --> 00:46:18,984 that we see in this case. 674 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,698 [Harlowe] In the end, there's so many of these extreme coincidences, 675 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:29,536 and it really fed into all those theories. 676 00:46:30,370 --> 00:46:33,373 But when you are too deep into anything, 677 00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:35,334 you do lose your perspective. 678 00:46:37,419 --> 00:46:43,133 I think that people that cross that line without any facts or evidence… 679 00:46:44,343 --> 00:46:46,011 And that's when you lose control. 680 00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:49,723 And that's when you do things that can hurt people. 681 00:46:55,437 --> 00:46:59,733 So when the news were released about her death being an accident, 682 00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:03,111 no one apologized to me, no one reached out to me. 683 00:47:05,656 --> 00:47:06,698 Nothing changed. 684 00:47:08,158 --> 00:47:09,076 It's just wrong. 685 00:47:09,785 --> 00:47:13,705 People shouldn't get away with that, and we have to be more responsible 686 00:47:13,789 --> 00:47:15,457 to what we say and do. 687 00:47:17,709 --> 00:47:19,878 What happened to me could happen to anyone. 688 00:47:20,671 --> 00:47:21,839 This is serious. 689 00:47:22,798 --> 00:47:24,466 I survived it, but… 690 00:47:25,008 --> 00:47:27,845 lots of people get cyber-bullied and they don't make it. 691 00:47:30,430 --> 00:47:33,892 That place is just a portal to hell, in my opinion. 692 00:47:35,352 --> 00:47:38,188 Once you step in there, bad things happen. 693 00:47:41,441 --> 00:47:45,529 I've come to realize that I am just maybe another victim of that place. 694 00:47:47,197 --> 00:47:49,491 Just in a different way. 695 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:53,745 [horn honks] 696 00:47:56,331 --> 00:47:58,250 [horn honks] 697 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:05,549 [Price] We closed our doors January 1st, 2017. 698 00:48:06,133 --> 00:48:08,135 [eerie music playing] 699 00:48:09,887 --> 00:48:12,639 The hotel was sold to a group in New York. 700 00:48:16,476 --> 00:48:19,897 It's worth like 80-something million now. It's wild. 701 00:48:21,523 --> 00:48:23,442 [Cooper] A determination has been made 702 00:48:23,525 --> 00:48:26,361 that half the building is going to be low income housing, 703 00:48:27,404 --> 00:48:30,824 and that half the building is going to be a luxury hotel. 704 00:48:32,034 --> 00:48:35,287 I hope that, um, it'll be a safer place for everybody involved. 705 00:48:38,665 --> 00:48:42,294 [Lordan] According to reports, the new owner wants to have 706 00:48:43,879 --> 00:48:46,381 a bar area put up on the roof… 707 00:48:48,508 --> 00:48:49,801 and a wading pool. 708 00:48:52,804 --> 00:48:54,932 [Price] I wish that hotel a lot of success. 709 00:48:55,641 --> 00:48:56,600 I really do. 710 00:48:57,351 --> 00:48:59,645 I think she deserves another chance. 711 00:48:59,728 --> 00:49:01,313 [horns honking] 712 00:49:03,148 --> 00:49:05,442 I know she could be a showstopper again 713 00:49:06,777 --> 00:49:08,654 and talked about in a positive way. 714 00:49:10,864 --> 00:49:12,115 You know, it's time. 715 00:49:12,741 --> 00:49:13,575 It's time. 716 00:49:17,454 --> 00:49:21,083 [Mungin] Today what we see is this reimagining of downtown Los Angeles… 717 00:49:23,293 --> 00:49:27,714 where there's this conglomeration of homelessness and poverty, 718 00:49:28,632 --> 00:49:29,633 of violence, 719 00:49:31,343 --> 00:49:32,594 of tourism, 720 00:49:33,428 --> 00:49:38,141 and of high-class individuals living in swanky new hotels and lofts. 721 00:49:40,102 --> 00:49:42,229 All of these populations are together. 722 00:49:45,065 --> 00:49:48,735 And so now, individuals wanting to make money in this area 723 00:49:49,403 --> 00:49:51,905 have this rhetoric of, 724 00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:54,491 "We're going to clean up the streets of Skid Row" 725 00:49:55,075 --> 00:49:58,704 by just trying to remove human beings. 726 00:49:58,787 --> 00:50:01,206 [sounds of traffic] 727 00:50:02,124 --> 00:50:04,751 [Givens] You got a lot of people that come down here, 728 00:50:06,253 --> 00:50:08,463 and then they complain about the homeless. 729 00:50:08,547 --> 00:50:10,340 [people chattering indistinctly] 730 00:50:10,424 --> 00:50:12,050 Where are these people gonna go? 731 00:50:12,759 --> 00:50:14,803 You know, they've always been there. 732 00:50:16,263 --> 00:50:20,017 You're the one that's coming down here, so why look down on somebody like that? 733 00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:21,226 But this is what they do. 734 00:50:24,396 --> 00:50:27,649 [Mungin] We’re talking about the homeless as if they're the issue. 735 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:34,114 Those individuals deserve a better space than what we've created for them. 736 00:50:35,574 --> 00:50:39,661 Because, in this space, mental health episodes 737 00:50:40,454 --> 00:50:42,706 have become common. 738 00:50:44,499 --> 00:50:49,421 And how many stories just like Elisa Lam's 739 00:50:50,172 --> 00:50:51,256 have we missed? 740 00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:00,015 [Elisa Lam] Depression sucks. 741 00:51:00,807 --> 00:51:01,683 Period. 742 00:51:03,185 --> 00:51:04,603 [melancholy music plays] 743 00:51:06,563 --> 00:51:07,731 [keyboard clacking] 744 00:51:07,814 --> 00:51:10,567 If someone says to you that they have depression, 745 00:51:10,650 --> 00:51:11,902 don't ask why. 746 00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:14,488 There is no why. 747 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,076 Tell them every day you love them. 748 00:51:20,202 --> 00:51:23,580 Remind them every day, it will get better. 749 00:51:24,873 --> 00:51:27,209 There is nothing else you can do. 750 00:51:29,127 --> 00:51:32,297 [Ho] I think Elisa was a bright young woman with a bright future 751 00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:35,342 doing the best that she could to manage her chronic illness. 752 00:51:36,468 --> 00:51:39,346 [Elisa Lam] I'm not a professional depressed person. 753 00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:42,641 I am so much more than that. 754 00:51:43,975 --> 00:51:45,352 I am very lucky. 755 00:51:45,936 --> 00:51:49,231 I-I do have amazing, beautiful things in my life. 756 00:51:50,357 --> 00:51:52,359 I am so very full of… 757 00:51:54,486 --> 00:51:55,695 love. 758 00:51:58,448 --> 00:52:03,411 Elisa had many different dimensions, many different angles as a human being. 759 00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:08,750 She was looking for happiness 760 00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:11,711 and yearning for joy. 761 00:52:12,587 --> 00:52:15,590 She knew the version of herself that she wanted to be. 762 00:52:17,968 --> 00:52:20,178 [Elisa Lam] That's the thing about potential. 763 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:22,764 It was so close. 764 00:52:22,848 --> 00:52:23,974 [keyboard clacking] 765 00:52:24,057 --> 00:52:27,519 What could have been, but didn't happen, 766 00:52:28,854 --> 00:52:30,021 breaks your heart. 767 00:52:34,776 --> 00:52:39,197 I think we got cheated of a brilliant writer in the making. 768 00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:44,911 Looking at her writing, looking at her honesty, 769 00:52:45,537 --> 00:52:46,955 it's our loss. 770 00:52:48,415 --> 00:52:49,875 It's a loss for all of us. 771 00:52:54,754 --> 00:52:56,965 [Sobhani] People are still reading her blogs 772 00:52:58,008 --> 00:53:00,093 and commenting on her blog posts. 773 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,013 She's making an impact to this day. 774 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,102 [man] Without a doubt, you have left your mark here. 775 00:53:10,353 --> 00:53:12,439 [woman] You've touched many lives, Elisa. 776 00:53:13,315 --> 00:53:15,400 Probably even saved a lot of people, too. 777 00:53:16,234 --> 00:53:17,611 [woman 2] You give me hope. 778 00:53:18,570 --> 00:53:22,532 [woman 3] Knowing you, now I know someone understands me. 779 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,911 [man 2] My only regret is not finding you sooner. 780 00:53:26,620 --> 00:53:30,123 [woman 3] I will not forget your story, I promise. 781 00:53:32,834 --> 00:53:34,920 [Sobhani] Elisa Lam brought us together. 782 00:53:35,921 --> 00:53:40,091 And thanks to Elisa, I realized we're not alone. 783 00:53:41,009 --> 00:53:41,927 We're not alone. 784 00:53:43,553 --> 00:53:47,641 [Dean] There are stories that stick with you, that you can't stop thinking about. 785 00:53:48,808 --> 00:53:50,477 This is definitely one of those. 786 00:53:51,937 --> 00:53:53,772 [Cooper] You can't forget Elisa Lam. 787 00:53:54,898 --> 00:53:57,442 She was important before she died. She's still important. 788 00:53:58,401 --> 00:54:01,071 You see that her life mattered. 789 00:54:03,114 --> 00:54:04,366 Her legacy lives. 790 00:54:07,202 --> 00:54:09,412 And just being here with everyone, 791 00:54:10,038 --> 00:54:11,790 she's not quite gone. 792 00:54:13,541 --> 00:54:16,378 [Elisa Lam] I suppose that is the human condition, 793 00:54:18,004 --> 00:54:22,008 to feel so big, so important, but… 794 00:54:23,718 --> 00:54:25,387 just a flicker in the universe… 795 00:54:27,305 --> 00:54:31,768 and the struggle to come to terms with those two truths. 796 00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:47,200 [somber music plays] 66332

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