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Please, just stay still, stay still! 5 00:00:11,663 --> 00:00:15,022 The man that was in here before, is that your husband? 6 00:00:15,023 --> 00:00:17,260 And your husband wants you to die? 7 00:00:19,743 --> 00:00:22,495 I can't see any justification for believing 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,559 the Taliban would govern Afghanistan in peace and harmony, 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,159 or Iraqi insurgents would ever have formed a stable democracy. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,920 That doesn't require apologising for the past. 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,637 That doesn't require apologising for the past. 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,157 I know you'll never let anything bad happen to me. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,153 You said it, out in Helmand. 14 00:00:46,154 --> 00:00:48,439 If you ever found yourself right beside one of those bastards 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,719 that sent us out there, 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,560 you'd just close your eyes and pull the trigger. 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Armed police! 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,559 You've got to finish the job. 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,079 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,479 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,679 22 00:01:00,896 --> 00:01:03,695 Whatever your training has made you, it's out of control. 23 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,079 No, I'm-I'm fine, Julia! 24 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,437 No! You are far from fine. 25 00:01:08,744 --> 00:01:11,063 We've taken the liberty of providing you with a tablet 26 00:01:11,064 --> 00:01:13,223 so the material can't be traced to your own devices. 27 00:01:13,224 --> 00:01:15,183 I need to ask you to identify yourself. 28 00:01:15,184 --> 00:01:16,784 Richard Longcross. 29 00:01:18,744 --> 00:01:21,463 They're feeding her intelligence they're keeping from us! 30 00:01:21,464 --> 00:01:22,623 What is she up to? 31 00:01:22,624 --> 00:01:24,383 You need to find out. 32 00:01:24,384 --> 00:01:25,612 - Julia? - Prime Minister. 33 00:01:25,637 --> 00:01:26,783 This is unexpected. 34 00:01:26,784 --> 00:01:28,743 Julia's snatching the key to No 10. 35 00:01:28,744 --> 00:01:31,063 We need to do something, fast. 36 00:01:31,064 --> 00:01:33,023 Who the hell does she think she is? 37 00:01:33,024 --> 00:01:35,237 Do you want a plan put in place? 38 00:01:36,944 --> 00:01:40,743 I want you right beside me, not because it's your job, 39 00:01:40,744 --> 00:01:42,263 but because it's our choice. 40 00:01:42,264 --> 00:01:44,823 If you fulfil your engagement at St Matthew's, 41 00:01:44,824 --> 00:01:46,663 you'd get the exposure you need. 42 00:01:46,664 --> 00:01:48,743 I'm sure the police would take a different view. 43 00:01:48,744 --> 00:01:52,103 This is a very, very dangerous politician. 44 00:01:52,104 --> 00:01:54,504 Someone who must be stopped. 45 00:01:57,264 --> 00:01:58,624 What do you want? 46 00:01:59,784 --> 00:02:01,423 You see anyone out there? 47 00:02:01,424 --> 00:02:02,420 No. 48 00:02:02,704 --> 00:02:03,820 Stay put. 49 00:02:04,784 --> 00:02:06,583 - What's in the briefcase? - Research files. 50 00:02:06,584 --> 00:02:07,864 Show me. 51 00:02:11,064 --> 00:02:13,104 - Everything OK, skipper? - False alarm. 52 00:02:16,744 --> 00:02:18,304 53 00:02:22,624 --> 00:02:24,823 The Home Secretary, Julia Montague, 54 00:02:24,824 --> 00:02:27,543 was among those injured in the blast at St Matthew's College. 55 00:02:27,544 --> 00:02:29,783 I heard there were security breaches from the word go. 56 00:02:29,784 --> 00:02:31,103 What the hell happened? 57 00:02:31,104 --> 00:02:33,223 A search team swept the auditorium twice. 58 00:02:33,224 --> 00:02:35,543 - Everything was clear. - Well, it wasn't, was it?! 59 00:02:35,544 --> 00:02:38,343 After today's incident, we can't rule out a connection. 60 00:02:38,344 --> 00:02:41,544 Suggesting the gunman had at least one accomplice. 61 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:46,063 62 00:02:46,064 --> 00:02:48,383 63 00:02:48,384 --> 00:02:51,583 ..All inquiries are being referred to Downing Street 64 00:02:51,584 --> 00:02:54,463 but so far No 10 have made no official statement except... 65 00:02:54,464 --> 00:02:56,543 66 00:02:56,544 --> 00:02:58,304 67 00:03:08,104 --> 00:03:11,743 ...to stay away from the Bloomsbury area of London. 68 00:03:11,744 --> 00:03:13,543 69 00:03:13,544 --> 00:03:15,863 ...we're also being advised by hospital officials that 70 00:03:15,864 --> 00:03:18,343 Ms Montague is currently undergoing major surgery... 71 00:03:18,344 --> 00:03:19,983 72 00:03:19,984 --> 00:03:21,583 73 00:03:21,584 --> 00:03:24,160 The Metropolitan Police is on high alert across London, 74 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,039 with all off-duty officers being called in to help 75 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,279 with urgent identifying and rounding up accomplices. 76 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,073 Trauma call, ETA 15 minutes. 77 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,919 PC Tom Fenton? 78 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,159 DCI Deepak Sharma, SO15. 79 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,207 - Sir. - Sorry this is crap timing, mate, 80 00:03:47,232 --> 00:03:48,539 but I was trying to form 81 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:50,600 a picture of the events surrounding the explosion. 82 00:03:50,940 --> 00:03:53,539 Witnesses have already told us one of your Principal's aides, 83 00:03:53,540 --> 00:03:55,619 Tahir Mahmood, appeared at the side of the stage, 84 00:03:55,620 --> 00:03:57,433 and that he was carrying a briefcase? 85 00:03:59,020 --> 00:04:01,380 I didn't have eyes on that myself, sir. 86 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:03,040 Well, what about afterwards? 87 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:04,640 Anything from Mahmood? 88 00:04:04,940 --> 00:04:07,040 No, sir, he died instantly. 89 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:10,960 What do you recall about the final moments before the explosion? 90 00:04:12,580 --> 00:04:13,780 Kim... 91 00:04:14,860 --> 00:04:18,473 PC Knowles... She approached the stage. 92 00:04:19,340 --> 00:04:21,819 That's when the device went off. 93 00:04:21,820 --> 00:04:25,160 I was looking towards PS Budd, to get a... 94 00:04:25,460 --> 00:04:27,440 ...a steer on what was going on. 95 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:29,160 What about Budd? 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,653 I'm a bit in the dark on that, sir. He left the auditorium and... 97 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,399 ...when he came back in, that's when... 98 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,199 ...Mahmood appeared on the stage. 99 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,759 What was Budd doing outside? 100 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,159 I don't know, sir. 101 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,640 That's unusual, though, isn't it? More than a coincidence? 102 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,520 WHISPERS: I'm so sorry, sir. 103 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,255 Look, before you go off duty, I need you to write up a first account. 104 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:53,960 Everything you can remember. 105 00:04:54,061 --> 00:04:55,101 Everything. 106 00:04:56,253 --> 00:04:57,413 OK, sir. 107 00:04:58,551 --> 00:04:59,884 Thanks. 108 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,999 Amid the profound sense of shock here tonight, 109 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,999 two big straightforward questions are being asked. 110 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,679 First, was Julia Montague the intended target of his attack? 111 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,975 And second, was she just moments away 112 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 from launching a bid to take over No 10? 113 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,599 On that first question, 114 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,559 the answer is, we simply do not know. 115 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,120 On the second, 116 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,839 well, for many months there have been deepening divisions 117 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:30,680 between her and the Prime Minister, 118 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,079 the two at odds over their approach to security, 119 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,399 with the Home Secretary pushing a more hard-line stance... 120 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,519 - Sarge. 121 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,480 Boss? Over here. 122 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:47,959 All the TV cameras were trained on the Home Secretary. 123 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,920 We have this wider view from a CCTV camera. 124 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,840 125 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,840 Show us frame by frame on the explosion. 126 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,880 From this angle, it's unclear if the explosion originated 127 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,039 from the briefcase. 128 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,160 - You've shared this with Fort Halstead? - Yeah. 129 00:06:22,329 --> 00:06:23,999 One for them to figure out. 130 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,020 Ta. 131 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,239 You got a location on Budd? 132 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,213 On it, sir. Then we'll get him straight in for a statement. 133 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:34,253 Not just yet. 134 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,240 135 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:39,720 136 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:50,200 - In the concealed files. - Sarge! 137 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,560 David! 138 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,880 - What's going on? - We're tracking communications 139 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,688 involving the Home Secretary's inner circle, 140 00:06:57,689 --> 00:06:59,279 in case they were compromised. 141 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:00,160 OK... 142 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,173 We're looking for anything that might help us. 143 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,999 Are you OK to consent to us taking all of your phones, 144 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,039 computers and any other relevant devices you've been using for work? 145 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,319 - Uh... - And it would be a big help 146 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,933 if we could also search your address, please. 147 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,559 It's... not a POLSA search or anything that detailed. 148 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Sure, anything to help, huh? 149 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,440 150 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,533 Cheers. 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,720 And the phone. 152 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,600 Ta. 153 00:07:42,675 --> 00:07:44,133 Right, let's get on with it. 154 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,480 Bag up that computer and any other devices he has lying around. 155 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,480 Sarge! 156 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,320 Open it up. 157 00:09:03,003 --> 00:09:05,690 Mind if we crack on while everything's still fresh? 158 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:06,440 Sir. 159 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,605 One of your CPOs, Tom Fenton, has provided us with a first account. 160 00:09:09,606 --> 00:09:12,535 Fenton was on duty with you and PC Kimberley Knowles during 161 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,320 - the Home Secretary's speech? - That's correct. 162 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,263 Fenton recalled you and PC Knowles left the auditorium 163 00:09:17,288 --> 00:09:18,880 a short time before the explosion. 164 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,120 - Yes. - Why? 165 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,119 I, uh... saw someone outside the auditorium, 166 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,135 - I went to investigate. - Someone acting suspiciously? 167 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,560 That's what I went to investigate. 168 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:30,960 Who was this person? 169 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,000 What does Kim say? 170 00:09:38,306 --> 00:09:39,100 What? 171 00:09:39,531 --> 00:09:42,213 I'm... sorry, David, um... 172 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,495 Kimberly appears to have been very close by the stage 173 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,360 when the device went off. 174 00:09:49,973 --> 00:09:51,693 She died of her injuries. 175 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,400 Look, mate, you know how important this might be. 176 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,580 Who was it? 177 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:16,120 Tahir Mahmood. 178 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,653 In what way was he behaving suspiciously? 179 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,420 He wasn't. Or I'd have detained him. 180 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,140 So what was he up to? 181 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,959 He needed to get information to the Home Secretary. 182 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,120 - He was looking for backstage access. - That's unusual, isn't it? 183 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,480 - I wouldn't know. - Well, a big speech. 184 00:10:44,980 --> 00:10:48,073 Some flunky arsing about on stage kind of ruins the image, doesn't it? 185 00:10:49,529 --> 00:10:51,259 It's like I said, it's not my area. 186 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:54,660 Witnesses report Tahir Mahmood was carrying a briefcase. 187 00:10:56,340 --> 00:10:57,240 Yes. 188 00:10:57,370 --> 00:10:59,300 He showed me the contents. 189 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,959 Home Office documents. 190 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,180 How thoroughly did you examine the briefcase? 191 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,599 I inspected the contents. 192 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,900 Inspected? 193 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,013 I looked inside. 194 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,893 Documents. 195 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,039 Nothing else. 196 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,680 Did you search Mahmood? 197 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,695 If I saw grounds under Stop and Search, I'd have searched him. 198 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,879 He was a vetted Government aide going about official business. 199 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,813 So, you didn't search him? 200 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:30,680 No. 201 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:36,059 Some of the witnesses are informing us that the explosion 202 00:11:36,060 --> 00:11:38,200 originated from the briefcase. 203 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:50,827 We've got these video captures of CCTV 204 00:11:50,852 --> 00:11:53,020 in the seconds before the attack. 205 00:11:53,307 --> 00:11:55,627 As you can see, Knowles approached the stage. 206 00:11:59,330 --> 00:12:00,320 Yes. 207 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,160 Looks like she's alarmed that Mahmood was up there. 208 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,800 - That's possible... - And here's you. 209 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,160 Not so quick on the uptake. 210 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,880 Like I said, I didn't think he posed a threat. 211 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,840 Why did you say, "What did Kim say?" 212 00:12:24,726 --> 00:12:26,606 You were the officer in command. 213 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,440 You could've ordered him to be removed. 214 00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:40,319 This is the second attempt on the Home Secretary's life. 215 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,999 Following the Thornton Circus sniper attack. 216 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,893 Both times, you were the PPO. 217 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,293 The officer in charge of the Home Secretary's protection. 218 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,160 Yes, sir. 219 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,600 Either you've got rotten luck, mate, or it's a coincidence. 220 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,933 - Yes, sir. - I don't believe in coincidences. 221 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,040 I can't help you there, sir. 222 00:13:04,969 --> 00:13:07,080 Maybe you can help me with something else. 223 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,840 Why the Home Secretary? 224 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,520 - Sir? - Not the Prime Minister? 225 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,039 Or a softer target. 226 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,599 You join her protection team and we've got Thornton Circus, 227 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,680 we've got St Matthew's College, what's going on? 228 00:13:24,005 --> 00:13:26,680 The Home Secretary has been the Government's most... 229 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,479 ...visible spokesperson for national security 230 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,400 since well before I was her PPO. 231 00:13:38,613 --> 00:13:40,053 Louise. 232 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,679 Thank you for providing access to your devices. 233 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:47,520 We've only had time for an initial examination. 234 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,573 Now, there appears to be occasions... 235 00:13:50,168 --> 00:13:52,128 ...when you turned off your mobile phone. 236 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:57,860 Why is that, David? 237 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:01,713 To not be disturbed. 238 00:14:02,140 --> 00:14:03,659 Save battery. 239 00:14:03,660 --> 00:14:06,615 You're aware the effect is to deactivate the phone's GPS 240 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,159 - so your movements can't be tracked? - That's not the reason. 241 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,775 You also carried out a search 242 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,360 on the Home Secretary's parliamentary voting record. 243 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,780 Yeah, why was that, David? 244 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,320 Curiosity. 245 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,220 Your duty's to protect a politician, regardless of their policies. 246 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,220 What were you curious about? 247 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,680 Nothing in particular. 248 00:14:35,306 --> 00:14:36,426 David... 249 00:14:37,601 --> 00:14:39,281 Tell me something. 250 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,439 Why did you abscond from the hospital? 251 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,860 Abscond? 252 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,340 No, sir. 253 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,773 I was with the Home Secretary. 254 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,613 Government officials arrived. 255 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,439 I was ordered to give them privacy. 256 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,919 You just walked out? 257 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,575 Didn't report back to your unit, didn't provide a statement. 258 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,120 Louise had to track you down. 259 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,980 Not hard, sir, was it? 260 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,399 I went home. 261 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,533 Why weren't you assisting the inquiry? 262 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,775 I just wanted to be alone. 263 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,800 An inquiry into an act of terror perpetrated by someone 264 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,400 you were the last police officer to be in close contact with. 265 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,573 David... 266 00:15:26,020 --> 00:15:27,726 ...is there something you're not revealing to us 267 00:15:27,727 --> 00:15:29,926 regarding the state of your mind 268 00:15:29,927 --> 00:15:32,720 before, during or after the attack? 269 00:15:34,890 --> 00:15:35,930 No. 270 00:15:38,847 --> 00:15:39,740 Right. 271 00:15:40,447 --> 00:15:42,247 Well, they're searching your flat. 272 00:15:43,647 --> 00:15:46,087 You got anywhere you can stay tonight? Anyone you can call? 273 00:15:47,363 --> 00:15:49,000 SOFTLY: Yeah... Yeah. 274 00:16:09,689 --> 00:16:11,649 It's the husband, Sorry. 275 00:16:13,538 --> 00:16:15,000 All secure here. 276 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,600 After you hung up on me, I kept trying to call you back. 277 00:16:32,877 --> 00:16:36,117 They took my phone as... part of the investigation. 278 00:16:37,677 --> 00:16:40,037 Why couldn't you just let me know you were OK? 279 00:16:41,397 --> 00:16:42,917 Cos I'm not. 280 00:16:51,517 --> 00:16:53,036 They've said... 281 00:16:53,037 --> 00:16:55,300 ...one of the police officers was killed. 282 00:16:56,477 --> 00:16:58,580 Is it someone you knew well? 283 00:17:02,717 --> 00:17:04,077 We worked together. 284 00:17:09,477 --> 00:17:10,920 Your new bloke... 285 00:17:11,997 --> 00:17:13,800 He going to make a good dad? 286 00:17:15,050 --> 00:17:16,436 287 00:17:16,437 --> 00:17:19,360 You're their dad, Dave. You'll always be their dad. 288 00:17:23,957 --> 00:17:26,757 - David... - It's my job to protect the Principal. 289 00:17:28,237 --> 00:17:31,419 Now she's in an operating theatre fighting for her life. 290 00:17:43,557 --> 00:17:46,500 Look, the sofa's made up for you. I need to go up. 291 00:17:54,037 --> 00:17:55,677 We'll talk in the morning, yeah? 292 00:18:31,037 --> 00:18:33,636 TV: ...after the emergency services were alerted 293 00:18:33,637 --> 00:18:35,476 at around 5 o'clock yesterday. 294 00:18:35,477 --> 00:18:38,636 There's now speculation that their initial findings suggest 295 00:18:38,637 --> 00:18:42,076 the incident bears similarities to recent acts of terror involving 296 00:18:42,077 --> 00:18:46,076 explosive devices, such as the failed 1st October rail attack. 297 00:18:46,077 --> 00:18:48,436 I'm the Home Secretary's Principal Protection Officer. 298 00:18:48,437 --> 00:18:51,156 - Is there any news? - I'll take care of this. 299 00:18:51,157 --> 00:18:53,396 She's still in the operating theatre. 300 00:18:53,397 --> 00:18:56,036 I can take your number and call if there's an update. 301 00:18:56,037 --> 00:18:57,437 Thanks, I'll, uh... 302 00:18:59,157 --> 00:19:00,557 I'll-I'll wait. 303 00:19:03,117 --> 00:19:06,196 TV: The police's biggest fear has always been that these devices 304 00:19:06,197 --> 00:19:08,516 represent the work of a single bomb-maker 305 00:19:08,517 --> 00:19:10,397 or a bomb-making terror cell. 306 00:19:11,517 --> 00:19:15,236 Officers from the Metropolitan Police's Counter Terrorism Branch, 307 00:19:15,237 --> 00:19:18,516 SO15, have been working round the clock to identify suspects, 308 00:19:18,517 --> 00:19:21,636 but apart from the man and woman detained for their part 309 00:19:21,637 --> 00:19:25,756 in the 1st October attack, there have been no further arrests. 310 00:19:25,757 --> 00:19:28,996 The Met's Head of Counter Terrorism, Commander Anne Sampson, 311 00:19:28,997 --> 00:19:31,116 has come under increasing pressure. 312 00:19:31,117 --> 00:19:34,876 However, sources close to Commander Sampson have told BBC News 313 00:19:34,877 --> 00:19:37,650 that the Met are facing an extraordinary threat. 314 00:19:46,437 --> 00:19:48,157 Commander Anne Sampson. 315 00:19:57,991 --> 00:20:00,196 Thank you all for coming in. 316 00:20:00,197 --> 00:20:04,036 Um... The PM's asked me to step up to Acting Home Secretary. 317 00:20:04,037 --> 00:20:07,316 Now, it goes without saying, I'd never wish in a million years 318 00:20:07,317 --> 00:20:09,676 to assume this role under these circumstances, 319 00:20:09,677 --> 00:20:13,036 and I hope it's not long before Julia's able to retake the reins. 320 00:20:13,037 --> 00:20:16,396 Uh... In the meantime, 321 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,519 my duty's very clear, 322 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,799 to identify those responsible 323 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,799 and neutralise any threats still at large. 324 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,920 I know you'll all help me to do that. 325 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,279 The Security Service is working round the clock. 326 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,800 We'll continue to serve faithfully. 327 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,440 I understand IS have put out a tweet. 328 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:38,502 "We salute our brothers 329 00:20:38,527 --> 00:20:41,479 who have stuck a knife in the heart of the British state." 330 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,097 They're not actually claiming responsibility, 331 00:20:44,098 --> 00:20:45,810 plus the tweet's light on detail, 332 00:20:45,811 --> 00:20:48,093 with no specific mention of the bomber. 333 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,999 We're conducting a meticulous forensic examination 334 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,813 of the crime scene, and we've begun inspecting CCTV of the venue. 335 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,119 So far, only one suspicious individual has been detected, 336 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:05,880 a presumptive suicide bomber killed instantly by the blast. 337 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,520 Tahir Mahmood. 338 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,159 My God, how could it be someone from our own department?! 339 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,520 Aren't we meant to vet these people?! 340 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,947 The evidence incriminating Mahmood is still only circumstantial. 341 00:21:20,948 --> 00:21:22,747 He was vetted, thoroughly. 342 00:21:22,748 --> 00:21:25,027 He had no terrorist associations whatsoever. 343 00:21:25,028 --> 00:21:28,145 How could he? He was cleared to work in the heart of Government. 344 00:21:28,170 --> 00:21:32,400 We've only just begun examining Mahmood's communication history. 345 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,999 Counter-terrorism officers have been carrying out raids 346 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,119 throughout the night. 347 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:39,399 We've taken a number of Mahmood's family members into custody. 348 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,359 It's too early to exclude anyone or anything, far too early. 349 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:47,975 The more pertinent question is, how and why did the police officers 350 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,920 responsible for the Home Secretary's safety 351 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,639 fail to detect the bomb in the first place? 352 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,360 You're not listening, Stephen. 353 00:21:54,461 --> 00:21:57,055 The device wasn't planted beforehand. 354 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,040 It was smuggled in by Mahmood. 355 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,599 You don't have proof yet. 356 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,655 And all I'm hearing, Anne, is you trying to point the finger 357 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,640 at the Security Service. 358 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,348 For God's sake, stop this! 359 00:22:06,349 --> 00:22:09,300 The country's relying on us to work together! 360 00:22:11,789 --> 00:22:13,029 Thank you. 361 00:22:14,469 --> 00:22:17,588 Now, I know this is difficult for everyone to contemplate, 362 00:22:17,589 --> 00:22:20,068 but my officers need access 363 00:22:20,069 --> 00:22:23,080 to all staff associated with Mahmood. 364 00:22:26,109 --> 00:22:29,268 Naturally, we will cooperate fully, 365 00:22:29,269 --> 00:22:31,548 but this must be in strictest confidence. 366 00:22:31,549 --> 00:22:34,108 - Absolutely. - No, this cannot get out, cannot! 367 00:22:34,109 --> 00:22:35,700 No leaks. 368 00:22:36,349 --> 00:22:39,240 The more we delve into this inquiry, the more likely it seems 369 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,079 all the recent terror events could be connected. 370 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,519 In our view, the probability 371 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,919 is extremely high of a single bomb-maker. 372 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,559 All these incidents could be connected under a single conspiracy. 373 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,919 Accomplices to that conspiracy could still be at large, 374 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,773 including the mastermind behind it all. 375 00:22:57,985 --> 00:22:59,072 Yes. 376 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,973 I don't... 377 00:23:02,323 --> 00:23:06,319 ...in the circumstances mean to sound unsympathetic, 378 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,879 but it would help to know if the Home Secretary's wishes 379 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,575 still apply regarding the Security Service taking the lead 380 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,460 in these investigations? 381 00:23:18,780 --> 00:23:20,353 It's a police matter. 382 00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:22,740 Thank you very much. 383 00:23:24,140 --> 00:23:25,500 Thanks. 384 00:23:31,658 --> 00:23:33,600 New broom, Stephen. 385 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,533 Seems the Acting Home Secretary's not as susceptible to the bullshit. 386 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,880 David? 387 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,813 What the hell are you still doing here? 388 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,159 You had your job, and you failed. 389 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,440 I'm sorry. 390 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,719 - Roger Penhaligon. - Hello. 391 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,440 We did everything we could. I am sorry. 392 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,319 It is with the deepest regret 393 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,775 that I can confirm that despite the heroic efforts 394 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,640 of our emergency services, 395 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,760 the Home Secretary, Julia Montague, 396 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000 succumbed to her injuries and was pronounced dead 397 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,860 a short while ago. 398 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,239 I wish to express my Government's gratitude to those members 399 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,800 of the emergency services who've rendered assistance 400 00:25:33,085 --> 00:25:37,720 and extend our deepest sympathies to every victim of yesterday's attack, 401 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,319 which also claimed the life of our esteemed colleague, Julia Montague. 402 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,399 Our thoughts and prayers go out to her friends and family 403 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,173 at this tragic time. 404 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,672 Yesterday's assault on our democratic process 405 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,639 was a cowardly act, perpetrated by individuals with no regard 406 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,680 for our values of tolerance, 407 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,239 respect and the rule of law. 408 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,639 My Government and I will continue to be vigilant against 409 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,159 these conspiracies which betray the unity of our nation. 410 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,800 These plots do not always arise 411 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,380 from outside our number... 412 00:26:17,362 --> 00:26:19,560 ...outside our community. 413 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,493 Some fester within. 414 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,360 415 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,920 416 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,640 417 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,096 418 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,400 419 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,640 Fuck! 420 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,919 Boss! We've got CCTV on Mahmood. 421 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,213 Great. 422 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,880 Play again. 423 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,479 - Is that the briefcase? - Yes, sir. 424 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,440 Just watch what happens next. 425 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,860 Shit. 426 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,797 Play on. 427 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,340 We're going through the Palace of Westminster Security to ID him. 428 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,140 Thanks, Louise. 429 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,079 Ma'am? DCI Sharma. 430 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,200 Ma'am. 431 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,999 Rob Macdonald. 432 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,840 He's worked at the Home Office for three years, 433 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,919 the last two as Special Advisor to Julia Montague. 434 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,500 Why is he of interest? 435 00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:30,420 Just a couple of hours before the bombing. 436 00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:35,724 We understand Macdonald's at the Home Office now. 437 00:29:35,725 --> 00:29:37,900 Louise Rayburn's on standby to bring him in. 438 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:42,860 Ma'am? 439 00:29:44,060 --> 00:29:47,220 I've only just got the Home Office back on side. 440 00:29:49,340 --> 00:29:51,460 Leave this with me, if that's OK, Deepak. 441 00:29:58,871 --> 00:30:00,151 442 00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:10,659 Yes, ma'am? 443 00:30:10,660 --> 00:30:13,779 Put me through to Mike Travis at the Home Office. 444 00:30:13,780 --> 00:30:14,820 Ma'am. 445 00:30:45,860 --> 00:30:47,240 Dave, it's me! 446 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,420 447 00:30:58,538 --> 00:30:59,618 David! 448 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,900 David, I know you took my keys! 449 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,319 450 00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:14,540 David, I've been phoning you all morning. I'm worried about you! 451 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:17,179 Look, open the door or I'll call the police. 452 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:18,700 453 00:31:21,295 --> 00:31:22,975 Dave, is that you? 454 00:31:24,481 --> 00:31:28,060 Look, open the door or, I mean it, I will call the police! 455 00:31:35,580 --> 00:31:36,860 Dave! 456 00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:47,380 What is this stuff? 457 00:31:48,460 --> 00:31:49,700 Brass fragments. 458 00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:54,322 Fragments of what? 459 00:31:58,300 --> 00:31:59,740 From the case. 460 00:32:00,984 --> 00:32:02,264 What case? 461 00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:09,140 The bullet case. 462 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:17,980 Oh, my God... 463 00:32:20,740 --> 00:32:22,580 Dave, what the fuck?! 464 00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:26,580 I... 465 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:30,713 What about...? 466 00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:33,739 What about Ella and Charlie?! 467 00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:34,420 Mm... 468 00:32:35,587 --> 00:32:36,620 I... 469 00:32:38,657 --> 00:32:40,659 I'm taking you straight to the hospital. 470 00:32:40,660 --> 00:32:43,139 No. No-one can know about this. 471 00:32:43,140 --> 00:32:44,975 There is a burn and a bruise 472 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,720 and it looks like you've ruptured your eardrum. 473 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,920 - They'll heal, won't they? - Yes, Dave, in time, but... 474 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,980 Jesus Christ! You cannot keep pretending that you're OK! 475 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,700 Dave, you shot yourself! 476 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,640 Not quite. 477 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,220 It was a blank round. 478 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,840 Well, why did you use a blank? 479 00:33:14,523 --> 00:33:16,083 I didn't know it was. 480 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,680 I don't know how that could've happened. 481 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,380 Right, Vic, you'd better go. The kids, eh? 482 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,900 CLEARS THROAT: Th-There's no way I am leaving you here like this. 483 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,095 Waterloo Station was closed while bomb disposal officers 484 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,961 were called to investigate a suspect package... 485 00:33:47,962 --> 00:33:49,880 ...The alert proved to be a false alarm and services 486 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,919 resumed this evening, though there will be delays due to... 487 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,879 ...Terror cell is still at large. 488 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,338 The palpable fear on the streets of London is that the bomb-maker 489 00:33:58,339 --> 00:33:59,599 will construct more devices... 490 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,199 ...A terror alert at Vauxhall Bridge was another false alarm, 491 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,600 yet all police leave remains cancelled until further notice... 492 00:34:05,730 --> 00:34:08,129 Look, I'm really sorry, I can't tonight. 493 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,680 A friend's come over. 494 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,760 She's having a bit of a crisis. 495 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,400 Why are you wearing that? 496 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,380 It keeps my head warm. 497 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,160 You don't normally wear a hat indoors. 498 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,900 You said it's silly. 499 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,680 Then I'm being silly. 500 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,199 The pizza good? 501 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,280 - It's nice. - It's OK. 502 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,453 Dad... what's wrong? 503 00:34:44,476 --> 00:34:46,220 Nothing, I just need a hug. 504 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,279 HE SOBS SOFTLY 505 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,293 Dad? Are you all right? 506 00:34:59,771 --> 00:35:02,300 I just did something silly today. 507 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,760 Wearing the hat? 508 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,840 That, too. 509 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,293 I love you both very much. 510 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,320 Right, come on, pizza. 511 00:35:38,556 --> 00:35:40,482 TV: In her political career, 512 00:35:40,483 --> 00:35:42,919 Julia Montague was a divisive figure. 513 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200 In the weeks before her assassination, 514 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,957 she was best known for spearheading the controversial RIPA-18 Bill 515 00:35:48,982 --> 00:35:50,520 through the House of Commons. 516 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,999 Her stance on national security issues made her a target 517 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,679 of protests by civil liberties groups. 518 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,879 Ms Montague was the target of an earlier assassination attempt... 519 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,039 520 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,839 ...by a gunman who fired shots at her ministerial car. 521 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,280 Uh, shut the door, Rob. 522 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:10,559 I've had a call from Anne Sampson, SO15 Commander. 523 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,240 They want to go over some things with you. 524 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,880 Uh, just me or...? 525 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,239 Oh, Christ, Mike, Jesus Christ! 526 00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,079 Look, mate, Sampson was at pains to point out she doesn't want 527 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,839 to jeopardise our working relationship, 528 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,519 guarantees complete discretion. 529 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,479 - This is a voluntary interview... - It wasn't even my idea. 530 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,000 ...a voluntary interview and consent to forensic searches. 531 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,480 Searches for what? 532 00:36:35,023 --> 00:36:37,920 Well, they need to examine your home and vehicle 533 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,439 for traces of explosives. 534 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,199 What? Mike, seriously?! 535 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,215 Look, OK, no-one needs to know anything about it. 536 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,080 - We'll get you the best solicitor. - For God's sake, what? 537 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,735 - Why is this all on me? - Enough... 538 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,715 - Are they going to interview you?! - I said enough! 539 00:36:51,011 --> 00:36:52,491 They won't find anything. 540 00:36:53,416 --> 00:36:56,815 There's a simple, plausible story for you to stick to. 541 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,620 And you will stick to it. 542 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,400 543 00:37:05,739 --> 00:37:06,979 On my way. 544 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,680 I'll be back in a sec. 545 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,573 - You've barely eaten. - I need to get back to work. 546 00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:18,708 You're not well enough. 547 00:37:19,387 --> 00:37:22,520 Something's going on, something I can't figure out. 548 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,440 What makes you say that? 549 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,479 Someone tampered with my gun. 550 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,093 It was behind a skirting board, then I shifted it. 551 00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:33,119 Someone had access to my flat, 552 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,919 carried out a thorough search... 553 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,305 Uh, well, the-the police searched your flat. 554 00:37:37,330 --> 00:37:39,960 Yeah, if they found an illegal firearm, they'd seize it, 555 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,958 they wouldn't just change out the bullets for blanks. 556 00:37:41,959 --> 00:37:44,319 No, this was... someone else. 557 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,119 Someone with expertise, 558 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,100 someone... 559 00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:50,433 ...with an agenda. 560 00:37:51,620 --> 00:37:53,700 Well... who would that be? 561 00:37:56,660 --> 00:38:00,344 For the DIR, Mr Macdonald is being interviewed on a voluntary basis 562 00:38:00,345 --> 00:38:03,459 and has chosen to be accompanied by a solicitor. 563 00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:05,480 Thank you for assisting our inquiry. 564 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,380 Anything to help, anything at all. 565 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,740 Let's start with the attack on St Matthew's College. 566 00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:14,480 What were your movements that day, sir? 567 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,719 Uh... Commons that morning, then back to the Home Office. 568 00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,119 You didn't travel with the Home Secretary and her team? 569 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,975 Oh, unfortunately, I couldn't. There's, um, too much to deal with 570 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,480 following the vote on the RIPA-18 Bill. 571 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,080 More like fortunately. 572 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,280 You normally skip big speeches? 573 00:38:29,478 --> 00:38:33,360 I-I was frustrated not to be there but I was needed in the office. 574 00:38:37,197 --> 00:38:40,239 For the DIR, I'm showing Mr Macdonald 575 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,640 video-capture images from the Palace of Westminster. 576 00:38:46,060 --> 00:38:48,433 Who are seen in these images? 577 00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:51,819 I am, and... 578 00:38:51,820 --> 00:38:53,280 ...Tahir Mahmood. 579 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,455 And how would you describe your relationship with Tahir Mahmood? 580 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,680 - Good. - Why are you lying to us, Mr Macdonald? 581 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,039 My client is telling the truth. 582 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,159 Provide some basis for that question or kindly withdraw it. 583 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,964 A forensic lip-reader has examined the CCTV, 584 00:39:06,989 --> 00:39:08,440 and according to her transcript, 585 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,413 the conversation between you appears acrimonious. 586 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,879 It's, uh... 587 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,599 Politics is a high-stress business. 588 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,780 There are words and then it's all forgotten over a few beers. 589 00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:25,245 Therefore, it is truthful to say that you had a good 590 00:39:25,246 --> 00:39:27,500 - relationship with Mahmood. - Mm. 591 00:39:30,220 --> 00:39:32,020 But I-I didn't know him well. 592 00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:34,860 I mean, we-we weren't close. 593 00:39:37,811 --> 00:39:41,250 O-Obviously, we're all... extremely shocked 594 00:39:41,251 --> 00:39:42,851 to think he might be involved. 595 00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:45,540 So... 596 00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:49,060 ...what's going on here, then, Mr Macdonald? 597 00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,460 I was, um... 598 00:40:00,740 --> 00:40:02,380 I'm, uh... 599 00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:05,259 ...providing Tahir with documents relating to 600 00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:06,579 the Home Secretary's speech. 601 00:40:06,580 --> 00:40:08,860 Where did you obtain the briefcase? 602 00:40:14,953 --> 00:40:17,999 Um, it-it, uh, it was Tahir's. 603 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,479 You took a long time to answer. 604 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,360 Sorry, it's been a very difficult time, 605 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,940 and I couldn't immediately recall. 606 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,559 It was Tahir's. 607 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,279 He left it with me, and, uh, I was returning it to him. 608 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,519 Was there anything suspicious about the briefcase? 609 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,679 Uh, not that I can think of. 610 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,276 If you were just giving him documents, 611 00:40:33,276 --> 00:40:34,855 why the need for the briefcase? 612 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,759 It seemed easier that way, and we were returning his briefcase. 613 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,620 We? 614 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,360 I. 615 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,239 We've managed to get Mahmood's communication history. 616 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:50,440 A call was received to his phone before the bombing. 617 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,755 Now, according to his contacts, it's listed as your number. 618 00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:56,060 What was the purpose of this call, Mr Macdonald? 619 00:40:59,732 --> 00:41:02,579 Probably I just called him to make sure that everything was OK. 620 00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:04,659 It's an important speech 621 00:41:04,660 --> 00:41:06,899 and I was frustrated not to be there in support. 622 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:09,000 Everything wasn't OK, though, was it? 623 00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:11,339 - I'm sorry? - Mahmood attempted to interrupt 624 00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:12,739 the Home Secretary's speech. 625 00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:14,219 Not on my account. 626 00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:15,520 Odd, though, isn't it? 627 00:41:15,545 --> 00:41:18,240 Literally a couple of minutes before Mahmood rushes backstage, 628 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:19,900 he receives a call from you. 629 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:22,947 You sure he didn't tell you 630 00:41:22,972 --> 00:41:24,615 - he needed to do that? - Certain. 631 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,760 - He didn't seek your advice about it? - No! 632 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,620 Whatever Tahir was doing, I'm completely in the dark about it. 633 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,119 These are all of Mahmood's movements. 634 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,840 With the Home Secretary. 635 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,580 Receiving a call off Rob Macdonald. 636 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,120 Being stopped by David Budd. 637 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,920 Why didn't he spot the bomb? 638 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,040 Hello. 639 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,235 - Sir? - Police Sergeant Budd. 640 00:42:38,260 --> 00:42:40,080 I'd like to speak to your security manager, please. 641 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,356 He'll remember me, we had a few briefings when I stayed here. 642 00:42:42,357 --> 00:42:43,340 Certainly, sir. 643 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,400 Security? 644 00:42:47,531 --> 00:42:49,360 Right, this is the time I'm interested in. 645 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,073 The Home Secretary received a visitor. 646 00:42:51,098 --> 00:42:52,380 OK. 647 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,920 Ten o'clock. 648 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,559 What happened there? 649 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,720 Sorry, Dave, it shouldn't do that. 650 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,479 Shit. Uh... 651 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,719 Let's look at the lobby or the lifts? 652 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:25,640 - See if we can nab him that way. - OK. 653 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,200 Stair access? 654 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,559 655 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,079 I don't know what to say, mate. 656 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,359 Chris, no bullshit now, 657 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,359 who's had access to these hard drives? 658 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,079 I checked the logs already. 659 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,440 No-one's been at it. 660 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,560 No-one. 661 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,359 Do you have any leads yet on Mahmood having any accomplices 662 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,455 or association with terrorist groups? 663 00:44:20,456 --> 00:44:23,655 No, ma'am. All the searches so far relating to Rob Macdonald have failed 664 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,400 to detect any traces of explosives. 665 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,782 And it's still unclear if the device was in the briefcase all along 666 00:44:28,783 --> 00:44:30,880 or if Mahmood made the pick-up within the venue. 667 00:44:31,063 --> 00:44:32,862 Plus, there's still no CCTV 668 00:44:32,863 --> 00:44:35,023 of any of his backstage activity. 669 00:44:36,183 --> 00:44:37,463 All right. 670 00:44:43,371 --> 00:44:46,142 What's the latest re David Budd? 671 00:44:46,143 --> 00:44:50,540 So far, the CCTV does appear to support Budd's version of events. 672 00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:54,139 He's still a person of interest, ma'am. 673 00:44:54,140 --> 00:44:57,859 We've retaken responsibility for interviewing Nadia Ali. 674 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,199 She's our best lead to the bomb-maker. 675 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,679 She's terrified, though. 676 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,479 Still in thrall to her husband. 677 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,380 However, speaking of PS Budd, 678 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,533 I believe there's a short cut into convincing her she can trust us. 679 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,375 ...spokesman repeated concerns the blasts are the work 680 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,680 of a single bomb-maker. 681 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,606 We have a prime suspect in the attack on St Matthew's College 682 00:45:19,607 --> 00:45:22,375 that killed the former Home Secretary, Julia Montague. 683 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,640 ...We are continuing to withhold the name of the suicide bomber 684 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,319 responsible for the attack. 685 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,040 It is not yet known if he was acting alone, 686 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,400 nor is it yet confirmed whether he was a member 687 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,040 of a recognised terrorist organisation. 688 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,620 What's with the new look? 689 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,280 ...and what now for RIPA-18? 690 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,640 Having lost its... 691 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,120 The hat? 692 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,460 Keeps my head warm. 693 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,780 Do me a favour, mate, and remove the headgear. 694 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,800 You're going to have to at some point. 695 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,400 You didn't get that in the explosion. What happened? 696 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,220 A gas ring was playing up. 697 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,740 I had my head right over the hob, didn't... 698 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,559 ...realise the gas was open on one of the other rings. 699 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,160 When I hit the spark... 700 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,900 Nadia, thank you very much for speaking to us. 701 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,599 If anything's unclear, please feel free to consult 702 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,440 with your solicitor or your Appropriate Adult. 703 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,200 If at any time you need to stop, 704 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:39,200 please just say so. 705 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,920 Do you understand? 706 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,320 Yes. 707 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,919 I'm now going to hand you over to Police Sergeant Budd. 708 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,039 - Assalaamu Alaikum. - Walaikum Salaam. 709 00:46:51,340 --> 00:46:54,179 For the DIR, I said, "Peace be upon you," 710 00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:57,220 and the interviewee replied, "And also upon you." 711 00:46:58,415 --> 00:47:00,860 So, Nadia, how are you doing? 712 00:47:05,499 --> 00:47:08,140 This is all very... intimidating. 713 00:47:08,866 --> 00:47:12,080 That's why the officers here thought it would be a good idea 714 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,693 for me to talk with you. 715 00:47:15,554 --> 00:47:17,007 That was scary. 716 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,893 On the train, when we met. 717 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,340 I am really glad that no-one got hurt that day. 718 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,580 I am, too. 719 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,080 Thank you for helping me. 720 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,079 Nadia, what... I'd like to do is ask you some questions 721 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,773 about the bomb you intended to use on the train. 722 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,040 That'd be all right? 723 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,359 Sorry, Nadia, 724 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,340 is it OK if you could speak up? 725 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,173 For the recording. 726 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,613 Oh, sorry, um, yes. 727 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,480 How did you obtain the bomb? 728 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,900 I know you're frightened... 729 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,140 ...but we can protect you. 730 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,420 Now, you believe me, don't you? 731 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,679 Sorry. Nadia...? 732 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,853 Oh, sorry. Um, yes. 733 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,760 Where did the bomb come from? 734 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:18,560 My husband. 735 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,329 At this point, I should note for the tape that I've briefed my client 736 00:48:22,330 --> 00:48:25,079 regarding the legal compellability of a spouse, 737 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,799 and Nadia's Appropriate Adult is satisfied 738 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,439 that she's cooperating of her own free will. 739 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,800 Thank you. 740 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,200 Your husband gave you the bomb to wear? 741 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,120 Yes. 742 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,213 I know this is very upsetting. 743 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,613 But you're doing really well. 744 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:48,280 Really well. 745 00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,840 Did your husband build the bomb himself? 746 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,133 Take your time answering. 747 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,040 Did he build it? 748 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,120 No. 749 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,240 He got it from someone else? 750 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,040 Nadia, we're desperate to find the person 751 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,760 who's been creating these devices. 752 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,839 He's killed and wounded dozens of people, 753 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,253 and he'll kill more if we don't catch him. 754 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,719 He said it was a gift. 755 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,640 A gift? Who from? 756 00:49:38,353 --> 00:49:39,753 He wouldn't tell me. 757 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,580 OK. 758 00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:45,873 You're doing great. This is really helpful. 759 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,780 Perhaps he had meetings with someone? 760 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,399 I was never allowed. 761 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,679 You weren't allowed to know who he was meeting? 762 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,600 Sometimes, he would lock me in the house when he went out. 763 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,280 That must have been very frightening. 764 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,360 And upsetting. 765 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,080 Were there any names he mentioned? 766 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,960 Or people he was close to that you were suspicious of? 767 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,280 There was only one time. 768 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,740 What happened? 769 00:50:23,460 --> 00:50:24,920 He locked me in the house, 770 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,173 but I was crying so loud he thought the neighbours might hear. 771 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,200 What did he do? 772 00:50:31,773 --> 00:50:35,420 He forced me into his car. He made me go with him. 773 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,800 Where? 774 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,940 I don't know. 775 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,720 A car park. 776 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:41,980 In London? 777 00:50:42,380 --> 00:50:44,240 I don't know, I think so. 778 00:50:44,580 --> 00:50:47,499 Was it a long drive or short? 779 00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:48,540 How many minutes? 780 00:50:49,540 --> 00:50:51,099 20, no more. 781 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,680 That's great. 782 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,200 That's great. 783 00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:58,373 What happened in this car park? 784 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,020 He met with a man. 785 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,039 The man gave him something. 786 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,119 That's very important information. 787 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,520 Well done, Nadia. 788 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,240 What did this man give your husband? 789 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,720 I can't remember. 790 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,359 Could it have been a piece of luggage or a case of some sort? 791 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,220 David... 792 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,460 You don't remember what the item was? 793 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,580 The interviewee is shaking her head. 794 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,480 Can you describe this man? 795 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,133 No-one can hurt you, Nadia. You're safe now. 796 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,173 Was he... an Asian man? 797 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,173 The interviewee is nodding. Good. Thank you, Nadia. 798 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,260 Have you ever seen any of these men before? 799 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,333 Just... take your time. 800 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,613 I don't know, I-I... maybe. 801 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:05,093 I think we should take a break now, Nadia. 802 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,159 I'm going to ask my colleagues to get together some maps 803 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,759 and some satellite photos, 804 00:53:09,784 --> 00:53:12,740 and we're going to see if you can help us locate this car park. 805 00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:19,520 DS Rayburn pausing interview at 15:50. 806 00:53:31,420 --> 00:53:32,820 Cheers. 807 00:53:34,753 --> 00:53:35,953 Well done in there. 808 00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:39,379 Feels like we're finally getting somewhere at last. 809 00:53:39,380 --> 00:53:42,056 If we're able to locate where her husband met with the bomb supplier, 810 00:53:42,057 --> 00:53:44,048 maybe Nadia can pick him out from CCTV. 811 00:53:44,073 --> 00:53:44,820 Yeah. 812 00:53:45,140 --> 00:53:46,140 We'll see. 813 00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:47,540 Louise? 814 00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:51,340 Stuff's... happening... 815 00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:53,280 ...behind the scenes. 816 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,960 Someone acquired access to my flat without my knowledge. 817 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,079 Oh... We carried out a search. 818 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,599 - There was no sign of forced entry. - There's more to this, Louise. 819 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,040 Take Tahir Mahmood's position at the Home Office. 820 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,519 If he's really the bomber, he wasn't vetted properly. 821 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,959 Who's in charge of vetting? 822 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,556 The bosses are the ones in a slanging match 823 00:54:10,557 --> 00:54:13,439 with the Security Service. Way above my pay grade. 824 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,359 Tahir couldn't have been acting alone. 825 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,919 He wasn't carrying the bomb when I searched that briefcase. 826 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,879 Someone else we don't know about either gave it to him 827 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,239 or planted it for him to pick up. 828 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,780 - Someone with access. - Well, who? 829 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,759 After the Home Secretary moved to the Blackwood Hotel, 830 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,653 someone acquired clearance to make a secret visit to her suite. 831 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,055 He had an insight into her movements, 832 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,280 was able to bypass our security. 833 00:54:39,493 --> 00:54:41,812 He gave the name Richard Longcross. 834 00:54:41,813 --> 00:54:43,772 I viewed CCTV from the hotel. 835 00:54:43,773 --> 00:54:46,532 It's been tampered with, so there's no evidence of his visit. 836 00:54:46,533 --> 00:54:48,545 Security Service, I'm sure of it. 837 00:54:48,546 --> 00:54:50,652 I'm not investigating the Security Service, 838 00:54:50,653 --> 00:54:52,906 I'm investigating Tahir Mahmood. 839 00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:55,575 I'm sorry, David. End of. 840 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,000 The Principal... 841 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,359 ...was killed on my watch. 842 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,920 I want to be part of finding the bastards that did it. 843 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,620 Maybe that's a reason for you not to be. 844 00:55:33,006 --> 00:55:36,719 This is grade-A bullshit, Sampson involving him in the inquiry 845 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:38,213 while he's still a person of interest. 846 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,839 Two attacks on the Home Secretary. Budd PPO for both. 847 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,400 Mahmood's briefcase... 848 00:55:43,752 --> 00:55:45,392 I don't trust him. 849 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,340 He's hiding something. 850 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:54,100 - Anything? - No. Nothing yet. 851 00:56:15,152 --> 00:56:23,165 63592

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