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It began when an unknown man
from Denmark approached me
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with a proposition.
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This is him in his tiny apartment
in the outskirts of Copenhagen.
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If this was a piece of fiction,
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no-one would believe that
he would be meeting
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with North Korean arms dealers
in Africa...
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You can walk in here no problem.
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..or going to the North Korean
embassy in Sweden
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to pick up secret documents.
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If something happened, embassy
does know nothing about this.
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Exactly.
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But this is no fiction.
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Everything you are about to see
is real,
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and has been going on for more
than ten years.
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This is him aged 14,
somewhere in Denmark.
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He is celebrating his birthday.
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Among the guests are children
who grew up
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in the communist dictatorship
East Germany.
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Many years later, as a grown man,
he will claim that
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befriending these kids
and learning about the horrors
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of a totalitarian regime made him
decide to infiltrate and expose
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the most brutal dictatorship
of all...
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..North Korea.
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It's a nice explanation, but exactly
why he chose to place himself
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in mortal danger is also
beside the point.
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What only matters here
is that he is a mole.
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In the end, I had to hire an expert
to help me sort it out.
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Annie Machon is a contentious figure
in the intelligence world,
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but this does not concern me.
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I am only interested in her skills
in debriefing agents.
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So, Annie, the mole arrived
last night?
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Mm-hm.
And soon he's ready for you?
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Do you have concerns?
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Maybe...we should discuss that
after you have met the mole.
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Hi, Ulrich. I'm Annie.
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Hi, Annie. Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you, too. Thank you.
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I used to work for the
British Security Service,
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otherwise known as MI5, and part of
my job as an intelligence officer
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was to debrief agents.
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So the film team has asked me in
to debrief you
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about your life
over the last ten years.
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Yes.
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Can you tell me a little bit more
about him? His background?
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Erm, you know,
if he would rob a bank,
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you would not be able
to describe him.
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Mm-hm. Erm...
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He blends in. He blends in. Perfect.
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So, how did you get interested
in North Korea?
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Oh, it's a long story.
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It is a long story,
so I will speed it up.
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Back in 2006, as a journalist
from Denmark, I went to North Korea
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and shot a documentary called
The Red Chapel.
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The regime in Pyongyang
really hated my film,
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and because of that, I can never
travel back to North Korea.
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Seen from a western point of view,
the film has its moments,
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but it does not offer up
the smoking gun,
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the irrefutable proof
that North Korea is an evil
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and criminal enterprise.
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Ever since, I have been on a quest
to prove these points,
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yet being forever banned
from the Chamber of Secrets.
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But back in Denmark, the man who I
prefer to call the mole saw my film,
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and somehow it gave him the idea
that he could travel
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to North Korea in my place.
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Approximately ten years ago,
out of nowhere, he wrote and asked
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if I would be interested
in doing a film about him
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infiltrating the Danish North Korean
Friendship Association.
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So... I mean, what happened?
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Can you talk me through exactly
the first steps you took in this,
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and the sort of thought process
you were going through?
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I told him it could be of interest
if it would evolve to something
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of international importance,
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because the Danish North Korean
Friendship Association in itself
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is a fairly depressing
group of people. Mm-hm.
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He said, "Please keep me posted
if it's interesting,"
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and I was like, "OK."
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I also told him, "I will never
be able to pay you any money,"
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so that is not of importance
for him,
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and then he just kept on going.
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The mole went down the rabbit hole
and discovered a bizarre world
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of Danish senior citizens
who are true friends of North Korea.
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MAN SPEAKS DANISH
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Slowly but surely,
the mole advanced in the hierarchy
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and became a member of the board,
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working under chairman
Anders Kristensen,
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a die-hard communist.
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Here you have him back in
his heyday, meeting with
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the founder of North Korea,
Eternal President Kim Il-sung,
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grandfather of the current ruler,
Kim Jong-un.
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All the time, the mole was filming,
the excuse being that he was
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making movies for YouTube
about his work as a board member.
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So, how did things progress for you
once you were a member,
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and on the board?
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The mole went to North Korea,
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and the North Koreans
took a liking to him.
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His main contact person in
North Korea was a man named Kang,
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who works for the Ministry of
Cultural Affairs.
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Kang is a key person in this tale
of deceit and intrigue.
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Everywhere he went in North Korea,
the mole was filming.
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Of course, he also brought his
camera when he was awarded a medal,
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recognising his work for the regime.
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OK, congratulations.
Thank you.
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So when did things really start
to move?
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Could you confirm that
this is a photograph of him?
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Amongst the friends of the regime
in Pyongyang,
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Alejandro Cao de Benos
is the biggest friend.
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Compared to a small group
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such as the Danish North Korean
Friendship Association,
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the Korean Friendship Association
is the international lodge
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for people who consider North Korea
to be heaven on Earth.
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Alejandro Cao de Benos
is the founder
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of the Korean Friendship Association
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and is known around the world
as the gatekeeper of North Korea.
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As such, Alejandro Cao de Benos
was my tour guide and access ticket
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when I travelled to North Korea
back in 2006.
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Here, we are posing
for a North Korean newspaper.
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Spending time with him, I found it
hard to understand why Alejandro,
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who was born in Spain
and lives in Spain,
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has chosen a life
as a cheerleader for North Korea.
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According to the UN, North Korea
starves, abuses
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and kills its own citizens
on a daily basis,
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but Alejandro Cao de Benos
considers all that to be fake news.
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I also discovered that his preferred
foods are French pastry and candies,
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which is, I guess, the perfect diet
for a supervillain.
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Do you think Alejandro's dangerous?
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APPLAUSE
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You're a Spanish aristocrat
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representing the North Korean
regime. What's in it for you?
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APPLAUSE
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So you meet him in Pyongyang,
and then you go back to Europe,
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and then your second meeting
is when you go to Spain. Yeah.
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Can you tell me a little bit
about that meeting?
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So what did Alejandro want from you?
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And so the mole began
channelling his way through
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the Korean Friendship Association,
hoping to find the secrets
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of this global club for friends
of Pyongyang.
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Advised by me, the mole had
a professional cameraman
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enrolled in KFA Denmark
as his personal assistant.
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Is Alejandro aware of the
personal aspects of your life?
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A lot of time because, in his real
life, the mole is a retired chef
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who lives on welfare subsidies
from the government
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because of some sort of
chronic disease
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which prevents him from working.
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He is married with children
and resides in the suburbs
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of Copenhagen, living
a seemingly normal life.
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As such, he is the best mole
you could ever want.
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MUSIC PLAYS
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That's quite a quick leap up.
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So what were your responsibilities
in that?
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This is Ulrich out of Copenhagen.
Here's what he had to say.
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So, Andre, he's really picking up
on that theme
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that Dermot had about a smear
against North Korea.
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Do you happen to know if he's told
his wife what he was doing?
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I don't think so. Mm.
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What did your wife say when you went
home smelling of that strange scent?
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Mm-hm.
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LINE RINGS
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Why does Alejandro like the mole?
What does he see in the mole?
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Alejandro Cao de Benos begins
putting pressure on the mole.
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He wants him to source for
businessmen who will invest
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in North Korea.
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So the main part, really, is raising
business and investment. Yeah.
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In a debriefing filmed in Denmark
back in 2013,
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the mole was already talking about
KFA president Alejandro Cao de Benos
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wanting him to find investors.
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But investing in North Korea
is tricky business
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because of the tough UN sanctions
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levelled against
the cash-starved regime.
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The new sanctions
include a ban on exports of
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North Korean goods such as machinery
and electrical equipment.
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Since no-one in their right mind
would throw money at North Korea,
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I decided to invent a fake investor
in order for the mole to find out
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what exactly Alejandro Cao de Benos
had in mind.
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I forgot to mention there is
another person involved in this.
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That person is Mr James.
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His real name is Jim,
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and he was chosen by me to perform
the role as Mr James,
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a man of international mystery.
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In real life, Jim is a former member
of the French Foreign Legion
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who later went on to become a jetset
cocaine pusher in Copenhagen.
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In the end, he was caught
and served eight years in jail,
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and now works and lives
as a legitimate businessman.
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In my mind, he was tailor-made
for extreme role-playing.
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So I had the mole invite Alejandro
to come to Oslo in Norway
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for meeting with the man
of his dreams,
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Mr James, a dapper Scandinavian
oil billionaire.
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So how did you set it up?
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Mm-hm.
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What kind of investments
into North Korea
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would President Alejandro Cao de
Benos have on offer for Mr James?
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Go.
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KNOCK ON DOOR
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Sorry, just to interrupt,
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but what sort of cover story
had you developed for James?
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I mean, Alejandro presumably would
have done some checking
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on the background of James.
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So he didn't need to know the name
of this oil billionaire?
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Did he discuss what types of
business he would be looking for?
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Meeting with President
Alejandro Cao de Benos in Oslo
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gave a whole new perspective on
the Korean Friendship Association
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because, officially, the KFA
is a peaceful organisation
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which works to promote North Korean
culture, history and values
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through its members in more than
30 different countries...
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..including the official delegate
for all of Scandinavia,
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the mole.
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Was the KFA really being used
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as a front for dealing with weapons
and drugs from North Korea,
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with Alejandro as the spider
in the web?
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Or was Alejandro Cao de Benos
playing us in order to get to
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the deep pockets of Mr James?
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And who was Alejandro really?
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Simply a buffoonish braggart
acting as a useful idiot
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for the regime in Pyongyang?
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Or was he a highly connected
and sophisticated
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international criminal?
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At last, the mole had found his real
mission and true purpose -
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follow the lead of
Alejandro Cao de Benos
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and see where it takes us.
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So, what happened
after this meeting?
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For the first time ever,
the brave soldiers of the KFA
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would have their annual meeting
without their president -
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a perfect chance for the mole
to rise in the ranks.
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PHONE RINGS
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Next, the mole and Mr James
went to Madrid in Spain
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to meet with Alejandro Cao de Benos.
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Through me, Mr James had an order
ready for North Korean weapons
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as well as methamphetamine.
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Would the president of the
Korean Friendship Association
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be open for business,
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now that he was being investigated
for arms trafficking?
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So, Alejandro took James entirely
on trust, on your recommendation?
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And what was that story?
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So, at this meeting in Madrid...
Yeah.
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..does James give any ideas about
why he wants, why he's interested
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in buying this sort of materiel?
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At this point, he's stuck in
Spain... Yeah. ..for legal reasons.
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But he can organise your trip
with James to North Korea.
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Going on a secret mission
to North Korea
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calls for careful planning,
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so I had my first in-person meeting
with the mole and Mr James together,
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making sure that Mr James especially
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knew the most important rules
of the game.
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Hi, Jim. I'm Annie.
Pleasure to meet you.
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Lovely to meet you, too.
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If we can keep the answers
as brief as possible
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and as precise as possible,
that would be appreciated. Sure.
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So, what was your perception
of the possible risk at this point?
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SHE LAUGHS
Erm...
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I was also worried for the mole.
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Mr James had been
around the block.
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He could fend for himself.
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But what about the mole?
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He was just a retired chef.
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So, I took him to see a teacher
who could give him a crash course
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in what is known as "tradecraft"
among spies.
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In short, I took him to see Max,
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a former CIA agent.
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If he makes a mistake,
he could find himself...
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..tied up in the centre of town
with a blowtorch...
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..as an example
for nobody else to do that.
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So...
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But why trust a former CIA agent
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with the identity and secrets
of the mole? It's a good question.
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Max had been fired from
the Central Intelligence Agency
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and was not in good standing
with the company any more,
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which made it safer to trust him.
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I'm going to kill you.
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Why?
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OK, yep.
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Anyway, I was in need of someone
who could teach the mole the ropes
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before he returned to North Korea.
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If somebody's holding a gun on you,
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you're not going to expect them
to...take it away.
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All right? All you're looking for
is a split-second edge.
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And besides, as the saying goes,
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who can you trust these days?
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Observation skills.
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What I say, what's common
is common... Yeah.
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..and what ain't, ain't.
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That means if it's common,
that's usual for the area,
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OK, that's normal.
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If something stands out,
it stands out for a reason,
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so you've got to be aware
of your surroundings.
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You might as well give them
your phone and say,
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"Here, look at it," because
that's how easy it is nowadays.
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You have to assume they can read
all of your messages.
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So, when they look at
your emails accounts,
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they can go way, way, way,
way, way back.
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They're going to feel like
you betrayed them.
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You didn't really believe
in...socialism or communism.
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You didn't really believe
in North Korea as a place to go.
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You didn't really believe it.
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That was all just...
You were a mole.
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Be careful that they don't set
a trap for you.
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So, like, when they walk out of
the room and leave papers,
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don't touch them,
don't go near them.
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Then, they can say, "Oh, we knew
he was going to go through these."
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You don't care about those. Don't
even think about messing with that.
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I tell you what, you are a hero
of mine doing this.
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It's very dangerous.
So, this is the real deal. Yeah.
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Safe journey. Thank you, Max.
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Godspeed. Thank you. Bye. Bye now.
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Right in the middle of
these anxieties,
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an American university student
was arrested in North Korea.
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..was sentenced
to hard labour
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for stealing a propaganda poster.
The Warmbier...
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His crime was simply
stealing a poster
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from his hotel in Pyongyang.
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Another American
front and centre
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in Pyongyang's propaganda parade.
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Otto Frederick Warmbier,
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a University of Virginia
business major,
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making a dramatic,
emotional confession.
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Warmbier's parents issued
a statement today...
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VOICE FADES OUT
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So, can you tell me what happened
when you got there?
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MUSIC PLAYS
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POP MUSIC PLAYS
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VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYS
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OPERA SINGING
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OUT-OF-TUNE SINGING
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00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,040
WOMEN SING
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APPLAUSE
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00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:30,480
So, how did the deal progress
once you were there?
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GUNSHOT
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GUNSHOT
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So how long did this, erm - shall we
call it a courtship period - last?
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Two days. OK.
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LOW CHATTER
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INDICATOR CLICKING
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Under a basement... Yeah.
in a rotting house. Yeah.
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Were you frightened?
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MEN SPEAKING KOREAN
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Is this when this photograph
was taken?
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So, can you tell me who is who?
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00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Mm-hm.
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00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,840
Mm-hm.
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00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,320
OK.
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HE LAUGHS
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Mm-hm.
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Like a sort of menu? Yeah. OK.
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00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,520
And what sort of weapons
are we talking about?
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00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,638
So this is all on offer?
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00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,118
Yeah, this is what we were just
handed over the table.
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00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,598
Wow! So we've got Scud missiles?
Yeah.
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00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:38,198
So, you can get five Scud missiles
for $14 million.
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00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,920
Missile launchers. Yeah.
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00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,598
So we're going up to Scud-E missiles
now. Yeah. Good God.
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00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,720
$25 million.
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00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,800
Yeah.
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And that's a high explosive warhead,
and that's thermobaric. Oof!
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I mean, that's as close
as you can get to a nuke... Yeah.
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00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,040
..without it being a nuke.
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00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,600
What's this?
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00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,478
The arms factory? Yeah.
Yeah, OK.
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00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,640
All signed and sealed, as well. Yes.
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00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,158
And what was Ulrich doing
during this meeting
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00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,880
when you were signing contracts?
358
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,360
He was allowed to film?!
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CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS
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00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,840
And where is that?
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00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,518
At this point, you're in a secret
underground lair in North Korea,
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00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,358
facilitating the signature
of a weapons contract.
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00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,720
What is going through your head
at this stage?
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00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,800
APPLAUSE
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00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,600
And Alejandro is aware
of all of this?
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00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,920
MUSIC PLAYS
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00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,400
APPLAUSE
368
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,518
And did the Koreans have
any preferences
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00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,720
when it came to countries,
or suggestions?
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00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:00,478
So, to sum it up,
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00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,838
you are now a North Korean
weapons dealer and broker?
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00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,920
Yes.
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00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,518
Good evening, and it's
great to have you with us here
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00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,078
on a Monday night. And we begin
with late developments today,
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00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,238
the worsening horror for
a mother and father from Ohio.
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00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,638
Their son, who was just returned
from North Korea
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00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,198
with severe brain damage,
has now died.
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00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,718
Since the moment their son
was sentenced
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00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:30,118
to hard labour for stealing
a propaganda poster,
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00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,838
the Warmbiers were fighting
until he was released.
381
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,358
The look in his eyes, which I didn't
know he was blind at the time,
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00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,758
was absolute horror -
horror like he'd seen the devil.
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00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,600
And he had. He was with the devil.
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00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,838
Back in Copenhagen, I was shocked
to discover what my two proxies
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00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,358
had accomplished in Pyongyang.
386
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,758
They had brought real, raw
intelligence with them.
387
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,598
As the scholar Andrea Berger writes
in her study Target Markets,
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00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,318
very little is known about pricing
on North Korean weapons systems,
389
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,758
but here was a fully detailed menu
in hard copy.
390
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,878
Mr James being appointed
as a North Korean arms broker
391
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,038
seemed like the figment
of a sick mind,
392
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,838
but here also was a signed and
sealed contract,
393
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,240
drawn up in English
by the North Koreans.
394
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,998
Before Mr James came along,
only a few non-Koreans
395
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,120
had been known to broker weapons
for the regime in Pyongyang.
396
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,798
Back in 2011, the British arms
dealer Michael Ranger was arrested
397
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,438
for brokering a deal between
Azerbaijan and North Korea,
398
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,918
but he was a highly experienced
arms dealer in a dangerous game
399
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,640
for experts, let alone amateurs.
400
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,760
Nevertheless, Mr James and the mole
had scored a jackpot.
401
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,878
RUSTLING
402
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,960
ZIPPER ZIPS
403
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,478
To prepare the mole for his next
mission, Alejandro would now provide
404
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,280
guidance on how to operate
as a businessman in Uganda.
405
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,520
OK.
406
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,280
OK.
407
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,480
Oh, OK.
408
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,200
You were mic'd up?
409
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,398
You had a volunteer, ten years ago,
saying he could infiltrate a North
Korean Friendship group in Denmark.
410
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,438
You said that wasn't really big
enough for you to investigate,
411
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,758
but you'd stay in contact
412
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,760
and if it became bigger,
then you could revisit it.
413
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,960
It did.
414
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,798
I used to work for
the British security service,
415
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,598
otherwise known as MI5,
416
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,318
so the film team has asked me in
to debrief you.
417
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,398
He is a retired chef. Mm-hm.
418
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,958
He resides in the suburbs of
Copenhagen,
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01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,678
together with his family.
420
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,120
Do you happen to know if he's told
his wife what he was doing?
421
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,320
I don't think so. No?
422
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,758
And, over those early years,
your mole had progressed up
423
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,198
the hierarchy of the North Korean
Friendship Association
424
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,238
until he was
a position of influence in Europe
425
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,400
and knew the head guy in Europe.
426
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,280
Do you think Alejandro is dangerous?
427
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,440
You brought in a fake businessman.
428
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,800
He has to play the part of Mr James.
429
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,998
And suddenly the North Koreans get
very excited about the
430
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,638
possibility of weapons trading,
or drug smuggling, or whatever.
431
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,878
And deals are cut,
contracts are signed.
432
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,360
So, what I want to think about is
where does that leave us now?
433
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,638
And did the Koreans have
any preferences
434
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,960
when it came to countries
or suggestions?
435
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,558
The mole speaks about how they are
going to produce methamphetamine
436
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,200
and weapons, and then
Alejandro Cao de Benos says...
437
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,440
DETECTOR BEEPS
438
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,880
I knew, if something is
going to happen here, it's over.
439
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,398
BEEPING
440
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,680
HE SCOFFS
441
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,120
BEEPING CONTINUES
442
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,878
CAR STARTS
443
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,360
HE EXHALES
444
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,240
What happened next?
445
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,120
HE GROANS
446
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,598
So, just to be fully clear here,
447
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,238
he was fully briefed on the plans to
build the secret factory in Uganda?
448
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,000
Loved the idea. OK. Yeah.
449
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,518
In Uganda, Mr James
would be the playmaker.
450
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:14,758
Yeah, OK.
451
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,118
And to have it all on camera,
452
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,358
he brought a photographer
who was filming
453
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,680
for a covert video about his life
as a man of international mystery.
454
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,080
And the mole,
he brought his hidden camera.
455
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,680
So, what happens next?
456
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:08,360
Is that...?
457
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,120
And who is he?
458
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,238
Earlier this month,
North Korea threatened to fire
459
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,720
missiles towards
the US territory of Guam.
460
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,520
This provoked the US president
into threats of war.
461
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:06,638
North Korea best not make any more
threats to the United States.
462
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,118
They will be met with fire and fury
463
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,478
like the world has never seen.
464
01:09:13,480 --> 01:09:15,080
LAUGHTER
465
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,480
How had you found
the island in the first place?
466
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,200
LAUGHTER
467
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,200
EXCITED CHATTER
468
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,078
We are waiting for someone.
469
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,040
Your sister? Your brother?
470
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,638
I will show you one on the
other side and then we are done,
471
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,760
and then you have an idea
of all the things.
472
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,918
Did you get an impression that they
had something out of the box,
473
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,238
so they had done this before and
had a standard plan,
474
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:05,158
a standard look for disguising
these sort of facilities?
475
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,400
They had worked with other
people like this?
476
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,920
How can that be done?
Was the government involved?
477
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,800
We were really crazy as well.
478
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,480
Thank you.
APPLAUSE
479
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,158
GROANING
480
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,080
LAUGHTER
481
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:44,038
THUMPING MUSIC PLAYS
482
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,838
So, although the true purpose
of the project was not
483
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,518
revealed to the Africans,
484
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,198
buying the island in Uganda
485
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,958
and using it for a secret weapons
and drug factory
486
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,118
seemed to be right up
the alley of the North Koreans,
487
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,280
which was kind of important
to prove.
488
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,478
But it did not stop there
because, while in Uganda,
489
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:06,518
the North Korean arms dealer
Mr Danny was ready to take
490
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,678
the joint venture a step further.
491
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,200
Yeah, we can meet in the lobby.
492
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,478
North Koreans needing to move
armaments to Syria is
493
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:08,878
actually a very interesting
piece of information,
494
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,518
so please allow me
to digress a little bit.
495
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,918
Historically, North Korea and Syria
have been friends for many years
496
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,918
and the North Koreans were even
building a nuclear reactor
497
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:23,918
in the Syrian desert until the
Israelis decided to blow it up.
498
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,438
During the civil war in Syria,
499
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:28,918
the New York Times published
a story about how North Korea was
500
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,400
helping the Syrian regime
with its chemical weapons programme.
501
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,278
At the same time, small arms
from North Korea have been found
502
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,838
in the hands of fighters
from the Islamic State,
503
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:43,278
but most likely these weapons were
stolen from the Syrian army.
504
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,678
So, when the North Korean arms
dealer Mr Danny wants to send bombs
505
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:52,720
and projectiles to Syria, the end
user is probably the Syrian regime.
506
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,518
So what did you say to Danny
507
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,960
when he suggested that you
help with the Syria move?
508
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,518
Something I still feel bad about is
sending Mr James to Beijing
509
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,040
to meet with North Korean arms
dealers.
510
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,758
People who are in the know about
the dark side
511
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,640
advised us strongly against it.
512
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,398
Because if the Chinese
intelligence service would shine
513
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,800
their lights on Mr James, it
would be another ball game entirely.
514
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,718
But Mr James is a man
who craves action
515
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,920
and I am a film-maker who craves
sensation, so he went anyway.
516
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,758
Both men are North Korean.
517
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,598
I know this because sometimes
they speak Korean to each other
518
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,560
in the dialect of the North.
519
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:08,998
Asking for names of clients
520
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:13,440
and contacts in the world of arms
dealing seems to be a show stopper.
521
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,880
And what was the power dynamic
between these two?
522
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,438
Was the enigmatic Stoneface
summoned to Beijing
523
01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:47,678
in order to verify the identity
of Mr James?
524
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,438
He never says a word,
he does not even smile,
525
01:24:50,440 --> 01:24:53,598
so we can never know for sure
about Stoneface,
526
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:57,600
but it is safe to say that
his appearance made a difference.
527
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,240
Yeah.
528
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,520
HE LAUGHS
529
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,960
HE LAUGHS LOUDLY
530
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:22,920
So, when did they contact you again?
531
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,000
Hm.
532
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:32,798
My actor, Mr James, seemed to be
taking on a life of his own.
533
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,558
That was a concern.
534
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,158
Another concern was the mole going
back to Spain to brief
535
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:42,398
Alejandro Cao de Benos about the
Tourism Project, the code name
536
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:46,840
chosen for the underground weapons
and drugs factory in Uganda.
537
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,998
By now, the mole had been undercover
for more than seven years
538
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,120
and paranoia was running high.
539
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,478
So far, no intelligence service
had caught onto us,
540
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:06,678
but, every time we met with
Alejandro Cao de Benos,
541
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,638
we had to consider the possibility
542
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,398
that he was being followed
by spooks.
543
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,798
At the same time, we also had
to consider the risk
544
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,918
that Alejandro would upgrade
his counter surveillance
545
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,480
with new devices
for discovering microphones.
546
01:27:25,480 --> 01:27:29,558
From now on, the mole would only
meet with Alejandro in a hotel
547
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,918
chosen by us with security
on standby next door
548
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,520
in case his cover was blown.
549
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,518
Soon Alejandro would spring
another surprise on the mole,
550
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,758
but first a piece of nostalgia.
551
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:53,118
You see, going to North Korea
with Alejandro as my tour guide
552
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,638
back in 2006 left
a long-lasting impression on me.
553
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,758
Apparently I had also left
a long-lasting impression
554
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,878
on Alejandro Cao de Benos
555
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,760
and so had my first documentary
about North Korea, The Red Chapel.
556
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,158
The film stars two Danish-Korean
comedians who go to Pyongyang
557
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,998
and lampoon the leadership,
558
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:18,400
which means that I am not Mr Popular
in North Korea any more.
559
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,400
HE SPEAKS ANOTHER LANGUAGE
560
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:54,280
Sarcasm aside, Alejandro Cao
de Benos is a man who thinks big.
561
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,198
During the meeting in Barcelona,
Alejandro tells the mole
562
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:02,198
of an ambitious plan
for a triangle deal
563
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:07,240
involving Mr James, North Korea
and a Jordanian businessman.
564
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:20,600
Which is...?
565
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,758
If the mole could get Mr James to
Spain, Alejandro will introduce him
566
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,960
to his plans for triangular trading.
567
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,200
HE COUGHS AND LAUGHS
568
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,240
Hmm.
569
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,080
LAUGHTER
570
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,078
So my two proxies,
the mole and Mr James,
571
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,038
went to Jordan to find out
if there really is a man named
572
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:44,040
El Dasouki who wants to triangle
with them and North Korea.
573
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:55,640
Have a nice day.
574
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,558
BELL RINGS
575
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,160
I guess that's the food.
576
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:39,600
Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
577
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:41,878
So was the contract
actually signed?
578
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:43,440
They signed the contract.
579
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:46,120
For how much?
580
01:40:41,480 --> 01:40:43,360
NAME BLEEPED OUT
581
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:56,278
Here, El Dasouki mentions
a major Jordanian power broker,
582
01:40:56,280 --> 01:41:00,120
but, due to legal reasons,
his name cannot be disclosed.
583
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,558
Next, the mole was asked
to go to Sweden
584
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,518
because a package was waiting
for him to be picked up
585
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,960
at the North Korean embassy
in Stockholm.
586
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,120
Like my sort of movie!
587
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:25,240
So...
588
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:54,480
Thank you for the ride.
589
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,918
Then, in this tale of intrigue
and deception,
590
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,078
a new character made his appearance.
591
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,998
It was Mr Ju, a North Korean envoy
who came to Copenhagen
592
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,518
to do business with Mr James.
593
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:23,398
Last time the world met Mr Ju
was on the Australian version
594
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:27,158
of 60 Minutes, where
he acts as a smiling mouthpiece
595
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,680
for the regime in Pyongyang.
596
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,278
LAUGHTER
597
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,640
And did Alejandro
know about this deal as well?
598
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:19,678
Now the North Koreans would discover
599
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:23,200
that Denmark also is
a very alcoholised country.
600
01:45:33,480 --> 01:45:35,080
Chin-chin!
601
01:45:49,440 --> 01:45:53,438
Had Mr James chosen to honour the
contract he signed in Copenhagen,
602
01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:56,678
he would have to wire
millions of dollars to El Dasouki
603
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:00,198
in Jordan as payment
for oil to North Korea.
604
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,838
In return, North Korea would deliver
manpower and products
605
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:07,520
to the island of Mr James
and so goes the triangle trade.
606
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,598
From his office in Jordan,
El Dasouki was now
607
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:16,598
threatening legal action unless
Mr James honoured their contract
608
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,000
and showed him the money.
609
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,918
Meanwhile, the North Korean
weapons dealer, Mr Danny,
610
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:28,318
who we met in Uganda, was pushing
for a meeting with Mr James
611
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,800
in order to "speed up" the business.
612
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:35,918
They met in a hotel in Cambodia,
613
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:40,800
where Mr James was taken to the next
level in the circle of trust.
614
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,038
GUNSHOTS
615
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,878
In Cambodia, it became apparent
that the sanctions are working.
616
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:22,078
The North Koreans are desperate
to find clients who will buy
617
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:27,040
their weapons and it seems like
Mr James is their big white hope.
618
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:55,518
And what about
the triangulation deal?
619
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,160
Where's that left at the moment?
620
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:03,558
So this is where you left it? Yeah.
621
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:04,720
They still trust you.
622
01:48:07,480 --> 01:48:08,878
But not for long.
623
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,278
The investigation had gone
as far as it could,
624
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,558
so Mr James had to disappear.
625
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,838
Thanks to my intervention,
Mr James went off the grid
626
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:21,798
and simply vanished, no longer
answering his phone nor his emails.
627
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:25,200
In short, Mr James became a ghost.
628
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,798
Meanwhile, the mole was taking care
of business
629
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:33,880
as the KFA delegate of Scandinavia.
630
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:38,438
First, he went to London to protest
against the BBC,
631
01:48:38,440 --> 01:48:40,358
together with his comrade in arms,
632
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,758
the British delegate of
the Korean Friendship Association,
633
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,240
Mr Dermot Hodgson.
634
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:11,278
Then the mole went to Spain
for his last in-person meeting
635
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,840
with his president,
Alejandro Cao de Benos.
636
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:24,720
Several items were on the agenda.
637
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,360
And old carpets on the floor.
638
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,480
But most important was the sudden
disappearance of Mr James.
639
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:30,998
To top it off,
640
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:35,158
the mole had been chosen as the host
of the annual KFA meeting.
641
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,878
It was I who wrote the speeches
for the mole
642
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,640
and now he would
deliver his final sermon.
643
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,678
As I had planned it, the mole
would share the fruits
644
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:23,160
of the top-secret work he had been
doing with his mentor Alejandro.
645
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:23,558
Following the annual KFA meeting,
646
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,398
one member of the
Korean Friendship Association
647
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,640
praised the Tourist Project on the
message board of the KFA.
648
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:35,198
Alejandro told the mole
to delete everything at once.
649
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:38,918
Also, a member named Jean Paul
left the KFA
650
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,680
because he panicked about
spying and hacking.
651
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:48,558
At the end of this,
652
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:52,478
I hired the former intelligence
officer Annie Machon.
653
01:53:52,480 --> 01:53:55,158
Before she went rogue
and became a whistle-blower,
654
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:58,120
she was working for the British
security service, the MI5.
655
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:02,678
Her exploits as a whistle-blower
have made her controversial,
656
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,998
but that is of no concern to me.
657
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:08,838
I am only interested in
her qualifications as a spy.
658
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:12,438
Running long-time undercover agents
was her line of work,
659
01:54:12,440 --> 01:54:16,478
as was debriefing
agents at the end of their missions.
660
01:54:16,480 --> 01:54:19,798
If someone has put ten years
of their life into doing something,
661
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,918
and they've been very solitary
in what they're doing,
662
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:26,598
they do need a chance
just to tell someone exactly
663
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:28,758
what they went through.
664
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,758
It's almost like a confessional.
665
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:34,758
And, of course, you do want to,
to reward them at the end of it,
666
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:38,278
even if it's just with a recognition
they can't really tell anyone about,
667
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,518
apart from perhaps their wife
or their husband.
668
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,598
But it is that recognition
that's very important
669
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:44,998
when they've been working
undercover for so long.
670
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,198
Such as a lavish dinner?
671
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,520
A lavish dinner usually works
very well, yes.
672
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,518
And I want to raise a toast to you
both for what you have achieved.
673
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,318
I think it's probably the...
674
01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:00,958
..most impressive private
intelligence operation
675
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,360
I've ever heard of.
676
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:07,238
How are you going to protect
these two guys
677
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,678
from any reprisals
from the North Koreans?
678
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:13,038
Regarding Mr James, he simply
refuses to be...
679
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:14,158
SHE LAUGHS
680
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:18,758
..you know...protected or
advised about security.
681
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:19,958
OK.
682
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:25,278
Erm, we have prepared for an
after-care programme for the mole,
683
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:28,478
also taking care of his security.
Mm-hm.
684
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:29,718
And his family?
685
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:30,958
And his family as well.
686
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:32,438
Erm...
687
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:38,318
What I am more concerned
about regarding the mole is that
688
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,718
being the mole has been
a part of his identity
689
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:44,398
for more than ten years, you know?
690
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,680
So, what will happen
when we bring him in?
691
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:53,478
Entering any form of secret-type
world is very seductive -
692
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:55,398
I know from personal experience.
693
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,758
And, for those who have been
living a double life,
694
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:01,678
with all the danger and the
adrenaline rush and everything,
695
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:05,200
it is incredibly difficult, often,
to go back to mundane reality.
696
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:12,640
In the long-run,
we all must face reality.
697
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:20,118
So, finally,
I went to the suburbs of Copenhagen
698
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:21,638
to see where the mole lives
699
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:23,560
and meet with him and his wife.
700
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:38,398
It is a long story,
701
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:39,920
but let's cut to the ending.
702
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:28,598
Mm-hm.
703
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:30,240
HE EXHALES
704
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,000
HE LAUGHS
57668
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