All language subtitles for Fall.River.S01E01

If you're from Fall River, you've probably done some time.

That's like high school reunion for, you go to jail,

"Hey, I haven't seen you." Yeah, I've been over here, you know,

playing some cards for a while, you know?"

Here in Fall River, we're very proud of our achievements.

And every year, right here on the waterfront,

we bring together hundreds of volunteers to entertain

hundreds of thousands of visitors.

Used to be a pretty quiet town.

Until, uh, a few years ago.

[male reporter] The city of Fall River used to be known as the town

of mills, hills, and pork pies.

It's also the spot where somebody gave Lizzie Borden's parents 41 whacks or so.

[man] I didn't know about all this stuff that happened here.

Everybody thinks of Lizzie Borden.

That's a hundred years ago.

Lizzie Borden has nothing on the Fall River cult murders.

Police making the unsettling discovery in a wooded area.

They had a series of murders

during a satanic ritual in the woods.

[siren wailing]

If I had a chance to say, "Would you want a investigation

-like that again?" -[male reporter] Police take away boxes

full of bones and satanic paraphernalia.

Three homicides, connected. Satanic cults.

Do you wish to sell your soul to Satan?

I'd say, are you crazy?

It destroyed my life. I got divorced in the process,

in the middle of it. It consumed me.

They could have just killed her.

But they tortured her.

It has also been revealed that her murder

was a ritualistic killing tied to a satanic cult

that exists among prostitutes and pimps in Fall River.

These ritualistic, barbaric slayings where these poor women,

their souls were offered to the devil.

[man] Satan is the pioneer.

The inventor.

These headlines, "Satan cult killings,"

"Fall River satanic cult," "Women found dead,"

liken people were terrified.

My faith in God grew stronger.

I prayed a lot.

It was all evil.

Without this so-called evil, there could be no change.

I think justice was served.

They arrested him. I said,

"What do you mean, they arrested him?"

They arrested him for murder.

I said, "You people are out of your mind!"

Grand jury murder indictments

were handed down today for the death

of 20-year-old Karen Marsden.

Justice wasn't done because the story that's out there is a lie.

It just doesn't-- it just doesn't make sense.

This injustice will haunt me.

There's a lot of questions,

and they're probably all going to remain unanswered.

Nobody knows. I guess everybody who's watching it's gonna know.

I don't know. I never been on camera before, so...

So when I was probably about, I don't know, five or six,

I told my mother that, um...

I had saw these people killing--killing a girl.

I was a detective in the major crimes division.

All of those homicides, probably 40 that I was involved with,

the details of every one of those crime scenes,

all of those bodies, uh, stick out to me.

People will come to me and say, "Oh, would you talk to my son?

He wants to be a police officer."

You don't want him to talk to me.

It's the worst job in the world! It's the worst job in the world!

♪♪♪

My beeper went off at close to 6am in the morning.

And they told me to go to Dimon Vocational High School.

When I arrived, we had just the EMTs there

and, uh, uniform division that's standing by to secure the crime scene.

Went under the bleachers where we saw the naked body.

I... I can...

If you could see... I can see exactly how that looks.

She was facedown.

She was just about completely nude.

There was a lot of evidence at this murder scene.

I'm just gonna tell you what the facts are.

This girl had a baseball bat shoved inside of her.

She was tied up with fishing wire.

Her head was crushed with rocks.

She had been smashed in the face with a gigantic rock,

which we did transport to the FBI lab in Washington.

They had some sort of a system down there where they could lift fingerprints,

but we were unable to get any prints off that rock.

[Silvia] At that point, we didn't even have an idea of who the victim was.

Our intent was to get her identified.

There were a lot of deaths in Fall River,

but there weren't that many out-and-out, blatant murders as this was.

I'll never forget that autopsy.

It was in the basement of St. Anne's Hospital.

There was a basement window that opened,

and they had that open for ventilation purposes, obviously.

But there was a young child at the window watching the autopsy take place,

which was so bizarre.

And I yelled, "Hey! Get out of there!"

They had a composite drawing of her.

And that was circulated.

And that's how she was initially identified.

We met a friend of hers, who ended up coming to the city

who made the positive identification.

Doreen Levesque, who was originally from New Bedford,

was a transient and she was homeless and she did have her problems

with her family and she was on drugs and vulnerable.

Between 1960 and 1973, drug addiction rates among juvenile women

increased six times more than those of men.

Female addicts often turn to prostitution to support their habit.

As time went on, that's when it was determined

that she was prostituting in Fall River.

That's a sad story. The only reason why Doreen

didn't work the streets in New Bedford was she didn't want people to see her.

I spoke with her father.

She was young, she was only 17 years old.

When you hear about the case, you seem to assume

that these are women that are much older than they really are.

The prostitute's number one enemy is not the law,

but old age.

Doreen at age 17, she should be in high school,

not working the streets.

And the investigation sort of went in that direction.

There's a lot of drugs and drinking and prostitution and stuff going on there,

at that period of time, the late '70s, into the early '80s.

Fall River, it was a rough place.

There were so many girls working the streets of Fall River at that time,

there were traffic jams on Friday and Saturday evenings.

There'd be 30 or 40 women working the street.

There was a number of bars in that four-block area

where the prostitutes would frequent.

Pier 14, Charlie's was a block further east.

There were tough places.

The only people who went in that area were people looking for girls

or involved in the business.

There's a very real linkage between these

adult entertainment areas and crime.

They were importing a lot of prostitutes at the time

from, like, Providence and the surrounding areas

and they were working the streets in Fall River.

You provide a concentration of activity that is especially attractive

to people who want to use sex as a way of committing ordinary crimes.

Sadly, it was a block and a half from the police station.

Why is prostitution so open here?

I moved down to southeastern Massachusetts.

That's when I first heard about this case.

I don't understand how this type of prostitution

continued here in this city, especially so close to the police station.

I don't know if someone was paid off,

I don't know if someone was paid off to look the other way.

There's a lot of conspiracy theories.

These girls were smarter than I ever was.

They were beautiful. I want them to remember all these girls

because they were so young,

and, um, they screwed up.

And they got involved with the wrong people,

and, um, they didn't deserve this.

Doreen Levesque, I didn't know anything except that

she was a prostitute that got killed.

As soon as we learned who Doreen was,

is when we worked all of that area.

We talked to people then who had been warned to stay off the street.

Anybody who you could talk to, you talked to about it.

We initially thought it could have been a john.

There were many people who were dangerous, and we ran into them often.

Willie Smith, he was allowing Doreen Levesque

to use his apartment....

for her prostitution operations.

I only talked to Willie Smith one time,

and he denied any knowledge of anything.

We came across Andy Maltais.

He got the services of the prostitutes.

We brought him down to the district attorney's office

with two of the Fall River detectives.

He initially was a suspect.

We interviewed him numerous times,

and it turned out he was not involved.

Most of the young ladies who worked the street

had someone they were working for.

Their business managers, known more accurately as pimps,

will arrange for their bail and early release.

Doreen, she had come to Fall River.

That's apparently when she ran into Carl Drew.

We would speak to people who would tell us

that Satan controls the street.

And who is Satan?

Hello, this is a prepaid collect call from...

It was Carl Drew. -An inmate at Massachusetts Department of Corrections.

Hello.

Could you move the glasses for me?

Take the microphone and just drop this down the shirt for me.

Just go all the way through for me. Thank you.

Good.

-Good? -Yeah. Yeah.

Carl always maintained his cool.

If he was stoned, you couldn't tell.

Oh...

Kind of anxious to get this thing going. Get it out there.

It's been a long time.

-Yeah. -Yeah, it's going on 41 years of this stuff.

Carl Drew was known as someone who was on the street daily.

Was a pimp.

I'm originally from New Hampshire.

I lived with an abusive father that was an alcoholic

and all that stuff. I would get beatings, I mean,

to the point where I'd be knocked out, you know what I mean?

Plenty of times I've woken up with a handkerchief over my nose

because he just come right on and suckerpunched me.

Carl's father would hang him with a rope into a well as a punishment.

Would send him into the water

to get dead animals out of a well.

I turned about 14 years old,

and I was getting a beating from my father,

and I decided enough was enough. I got up and knocked him on his ass.

And I left and I been living on the streets from the... from the age of 14.

Carl Drew was a street thug.

He was violent, he was cruel, he was mean.

So I end up holding up one convenience store in New Bedford.

And I end up going to trial and I end up getting six years and a day.

So when I got out of prison on that, I had to stay in Fall River

because I was on parole.

He was known to be a very violent person.

Had a history of control of the prostitutes who worked the street.

They were afraid of him.

For some reason, I had a bad reputation out there

that people knew not to... not to mess with anything that was mine.

What I knew of the whole situation,

he drugged those girls up.

So they didn't know whether they were coming or going.

They'd pay me like $200 a week to protect them,

to keep them safe on the street.

Oh, he wasn't protecting them. He was using them.

If he was protecting them, he wouldn't be sending them out on the street to make money.

[female reporter] Young runaway girls in particular become prey for pimps

who make promises of love and protection.

He did not care about them, he didn't love them.

Uh, protection, no.

Carl Drew, did he know me? No.

Did I know who he was? Yes.

He liked to manhandle the girls.

And he wasn't afraid to use force...

to make them do what he wanted.

A lot of the cops back then, they just didn't care.

They knew this shit was going on and they allowed it to go on.

It was so blatantly out there. You know what I mean?

Unless the cops had an attitude towards somebody, they didn't bother them.

-You know what I mean? -[male reporter] Judges often show reluctance

to imprison a prostitute since prisons don't seem to rehabilitate people,

but make them more hardened criminals instead.

My friend Diana, when she was doing it,

there was a cop who actually would pick her up for service,

and not arrest her.

All of our resources were going to, you know,

solve the homicides.

Carl, unless he was part of that investigation,

which he ended up being, he was, uh, sort of ignored.

There was a lot of fear on the streets of Carl.

You know, the retribution that was going to be involved

if, uh, anybody spoke or talked.

We knew all the players,

but we could put nothing together

that early in the investigation.

Robin's name popped up just about daily.

The bottom line is that Carl was a pimp

and Robin Murphy, she was trying to be a pimp at this time

in the same area as Carl.

At that time, Carl Drew and Robin

controlled much of that trade,

and they forbade others from doing that.

They were working together

but they hated each other.

I knew Robin very well.

I liked her. We had fun. She was a hot shit.

She was crazy.

And I knew she was not somebody you wanted on your bad side.

Robin had a very rough upbringing.

It's my understanding there was allegations of sexual assault.

A very troubled, troubled background.

She grew up very quickly over the years,

so violence really was part of her life.

What made Robin Robin?

Robin didn't care about herself because she had parents that didn't care about her.

Robin didn't seem to have any kind of family situation.

Her mother, I think she was a bar maid.

She was never there.

Her father... didn't give two shits about her.

My mother didn't give two shits about me.

Um...

Robin was only 17 years old at the time,

but a very violent person.

I watched her have a fistfight with a guy in front of Charlie's.

This guy was 25.

This guy ran from her.

And she chased him down the avenue,

right in the middle of the road, and threw a full beer bottle.

Trying to hit him in the head.

That's Robin.

So I was sitting in an unmarked vehicle.

You would think she was a middleweight fighter.

She was pretty vicious.

Everybody who knew her said

in high school the men were afraid of her.

She just had like a, you know, what do you call it, retard strength?

She just had like, you know what I mean?

Like, you seem like something, when she was really mad,

she had a rage that you could probably break a pool stick over her head...

and she'd still keep coming at you.

Robin could eat pizza and kill you right after that.

Not bother her at all.

It wouldn't bother her at all.

We never got along from the-- from the first moment that we talked.

You know what I mean? When you talked to her,

you knew you didn't wanna have anything to do with her because of her attitude,

her disposition.

That's what she wanted.

She wanted control.

She didn't wanna be a prostitute.

She was definitely smarter than Carl Drew.

Probably much smarter than a lot of the people

she was dealing with. Maybe even us, I don't know.

She hated Carl.

Carl was the only one in her way of controlling the street completely.

At that age, at 17 years old, controlling the entire street.

Doreen had been warned by both Carl and Robin,

they wanted that control of the sex dollars,

and they warned her to stay off the streets.

She was actually working two blocks away

from where they gathered.

But she was still working the street, and she was still taking johns,

and she was getting a lot more because she was a very pretty young lady.

There's a strange dynamic there of Robin and Carl,

and Karen Marsden was caught in the middle of all of this.

Karen and I were best friends. We did everything together.

Karen was a good kid with a kind heart.

If you were her friend, you were her friend

and she was gonna be down for you no matter what.

Her mother had gone to jail. I'm not sure why.

I don't know what happened to her father.

I have no idea.

Karen Marsden was probably--

that's the saddest case.

These are just shattered lives.

And they're all tied to Carl Drew.

Karen probably worked the streets for me-- probably about a year.

She was the kind of person that you wouldn't think

that she would work on the streets and all that stuff.

But we got together, and I explained to her what the routine was.

And I let her know that it's not a game out there on the street.

I was pretty mad with Karen. I said, what are you doing with this guy?

-You know... -Yeah.

She told me that she was prostituting and...

I kicked a pole, sprained my right ankle.

Um, I was pretty upset with her.

So she insisted that she wanted to work the streets.

And so they turn to the streets to escape the hurt,

but find themselves becoming victims once again,

returning to relationships with adults who exploit them.

I knew Karen from my childhood. We went to church together.

I believe people take two paths in life and she went on the dark path

instead of seeing the light, and unfortunately,

I believe she tried to come back and didn't have the help.

They continue to allow themselves to be used

because they have come to expect nothing more,

and that is why it is so difficult to reach them.

I lived in her apartment with her for a while.

And I helped her with her son.

Her son was a child. Two years old.

His name was Jay. He's since died.

Karen loved her son more than life.

She loved that boy more than she loved anything in this world.

Well, I'm the father to Karen Marsden's son.

-Okay. -JJ.

-What's JJ's full name? -Joseph John Alves.

Karen was a virgin when I met her.

She wasn't no prostitute like everybody says.

She used to hang down there because she knew some of the girls

and that's how I met her. But she was a virgin when I met her.

Okay.

Karen, 90 percent of the time

I saw her, she was stoned and drunk.

After the months progressed, I ended up seeing Karen

hanging out with Robin.

They were like two peas in a pod and all that stuff.

Robin Murphy came out at a young age as a lesbian.

Karen was considered Robin's lover.

See, I don't wanna get into the Robin thing. I really don't.

See, we all--we grew up in the same neighborhood, pretty much.

They were friends. Karen didn't see her like I saw her.

Karen had a child.

She had relationships with men,

but she also had relationships with Robin.

There was a very strong emotional tie

or some type of power that Robin had over Karen.

She felt comfortable with her somehow,

that Robin was going to protect her.

Particularly on the street.

I did everything I could to get Karen to speak with us.

Karen was the weak link. Karen wasn't right mentally.

She was emotionally distraught.

And stayed that same way, um,

throughout all of that period of time.

We thought she was emotionally damaged

as a result of what happened that evening

or early morning hours under the bleachers.

-That's Karen telling you this? -Karen was telling me that, yes.

She was present when-- we're talking about--

Do you know the girl that was found behind the bleachers?

-You know her name? -That was Doreen Levesque.

Levesque, right.

She says, "Come out with me right now. I want to take you to the diamond bleachers.

There's a girl dead. Carl smashed her head in with rocks."

And she was crying and she had holy water in her pocket.

She was in fear of her life.

Um, she said that someone was gonna kill her.

"They tied the girl up behind the bleachers and smashed her head in with a rock,

and Carl laughed about it."

She implied that, "That guy Carl that you met,

he's gonna kill me. I seen too much. I know too much."

You didn't go up there to see the body?

I didn't go up there and see it, no way.

Okay. Now, Karen didn't come to the police

-for what reason? -She was scared.

Every time that I saw her, and I saw her at least four or five times weekly,

she was fearful of even looking in my direction.

Or in the direction of the other investigators who were present.

Karen, she was always totally petrified.

Carl manipulated her.

Carl placed her in fear.

Carl had her in fear every day he was gonna kill her.

They had threatened to party with her son if she tried to leave.

And she said, "You know what I mean.

They're gonna drug him all up."

And I said...

"Well, then you-- you can't let people own you.

"You gotta go-- you've gotta go tell somebody.

"You're not an animal. People don't have-- people don't own you.

And you can't let them think they do."

It was gonna be arranged to have Karen

meet us at a house on County Street in Fall River

where Carol Fletcher's sister was staying.

Carol Fletcher was someone who worked the street, well known to us.

We agreed to go there.

When Karen came in that door and saw me...

she started to scream.

Karen was really upset with Carl Drew.

She called him the devil.

When I interviewed Karen, Karen said, you know,

"Satan knows who I'm talking to."

We started hearing "Satan."

You know, cult. It was unusual for Fall River.

As an investigator, I hadn't heard the word, uh,

"cult" in this community.

Detective Alan Alves of the Freetown Police

is an expert on satanic cults.

This is definitely, you know, indications of Satanism.

I knew Alan Silvia.

We worked together on a lot of cases throughout the years.

Because Freetown's a nice, quiet town,

all our crime came from people in Fall River or New Bedford.

So I worked with a lot of the detectives from the area.

Karen and other women that we talked to who were involved with Carl Drew and Robin

often said how Carl would take them to the Freetown State Forest,

where they would worship Satan.

Satan is the essence of that which dwells within myself.

Do you believe in Jesus Christ? -No. No.

Irrevocably not.

Oh, during a ritual? Well, the power starts building up.

I guess "power" sounds like a real corny word,

but it's an adrenaline energy that starts building up in you.

Don't ask me just why.

I suppose it's... you should call it satanic ecstasy.

I've been involved in investigating satanic crime

for two decades in the Freetown State Forest.

In the Freetown State Forest, they were always finding upside-down crosses

and there was always talk of satanic cult activity out there.

Alves was always chasing rumors out there.

The detective admits devil worship is a difficult crime to prosecute.

What they do, they have a pentagram.

Satan would come out of the center of it.

We find animals with absolutely no blood in them at all.

They would drain the blood right out of them.

It would be opposite of the Catholic church,

and they would drink blood instead of wine and so forth.

And usually with a high priestess of the cult,

uh, it'd be mixed with either his urine or with his semen.

So that left me out of being undercover over there.

Prior to that, of course, the Charles Manson case

really riveted the country.

Charlie, can we get a picture?

The whole helter skelter,

the horror of what was going on in California.

Susan, would you answer a couple of questions for us?

So when anyone talked about Satanism, that's immediately what you thought of.

It was happening across the country.

Alpine police say five young Alpine men

are accused of conducting satanic rituals.

Authorities say Satanism is definitely alive in Tucson.

At midnight on Saturday night, Satan worshippers don their regalia

and gather in groups of 13.

They knew what they were doing was wrong

by molesting kids or serial rapists or serial murder.

All prayers, chants, and offerings are directed

to the dark power of the king of hell.

Drinking blood is one of the black magic traditions

that some satanic covens or groups practice.

But then, all of a sudden, here comes a religion

that says rape is okay,

killing's okay, all that stuff is okay.

It's their constitutional right to practice any religion they want.

Uh, our concern is in the exercise of that religion,

that A, they're not committing any crimes,

and B, they're not infringing upon the rights of other people.

-Hail Satan. -[all] Hail Satan.

There was a fear of Satan,

but it was more the fear of Satanism and evil people.

It's not illegal to be a Satanist,

and not all Satanists engage in illegal activities.

But many do. Some of the illegal activity includes

trespassing, cruelty to animals, kidnapping, rape,

or sexual molestation of adults and children, and murder.

I never saw a real live ritual.

Saw the aftermath of it. And I was advised of what went on

with some of the people that were in a cult.

I don't know who the true believers were,

but they definitely used that to keep the other girls in line,

who ended up, you know, believing that there was an omnipresence involved

that no matter what they did, they couldn't get away with it.

Carl Drew, he allegedly called himself the son of Satan.

And he kind of looked the part. He had those wild, crazy eyes,

and the long, stringy hair, and he had this, you know,

horde of prostitutes that he controlled with threats and intimidation

and, "We're gonna offer your soul to Satan."

I always stayed in contact with Karen, even though we weren't getting along.

-Because we had the son together. -[man] Yep.

She said that Carl Drew took her to the Best Western hotel on Columbia Street.

Now it's an assisted living place.

And she said he brought her in a room, and they tied her up

and they dripped blood all over her and they walked around the room

saying, in different languages that you never even knew.

They had crosses hung from the ceiling upside down and everything.

You have to be a certain bit of a showman in the world

in order to get ahead.

If someone begs to be misused, then I'll be very glad to oblige.

This was not an organized satanic cult,

where, you know, they kept a book of shadows, or...

This was self-styled creation by Carl Drew

in order to keep people in line.

"Satan knows, Satan's gonna know, Satan knows everything."

I said, "They're gonna sacrifice a human being,"

because that's what's required on Halloween and on May 1, is a human sacrifice.

Usually it's a baby.

You know, there's plenty of pimps who are abusive,

who, you know, prey on women.

They don't have to say, "I worship the devil,"

and "Satan will take your soul if you don't bring in 200 bucks a night."

Carl Drew used Satanism.

They would meet at different apartments

and try to summon up the devil.

Obviously, the devil didn't show up.

But perhaps Carl Drew was the devil,

and they didn't have to summon anyone.

He was the one who just brought evil into all of their lives.

Karen, that night, took me to the forest

and showed me this area that Carl had taken her to.

And that how they were gonna kill her son.

Satan was gonna take her son's life.

We picked her up, drove around, we looked for altars.

We were trying to cultivate a story from her

and she was just incoherent and crying uncontrollably.

She was saying that once Carl knew that she had been talking to me,

they were gonna kill her.

She wanted to go to St. Mary's Church and talk to a priest.

[Silvia] On the way there, I called the chief of police

and I asked him to place Karen in protective custody.

He agreed that I could do that.

She insisted that she wanted to see the priest and didn't wanna be in protective custody.

We dropped her off at the church.

She rang the rectory door, the lights came on.

I remember the priest coming to the door and greeting her.

I drove away.

That's the last we saw of her.

It was maybe the following day when her grandmother

got in touch with the police department,

and Captain Andrade called Alan and I in.

It's about 3:00 in the afternoon if I recall correctly.

And he said, you know, that Karen was missing.

And at that point, we knew she probably was not missing.

The longer time went by that she wasn't there,

the likelihood of her coming back would, I would think would be...

far and few between, you know? Wouldn't happen.

I felt like, why wasn't somebody helping her?

I questioned, where was God?

I felt sick.

The police came to my mother's house on Robeson Street and questioned me

'cause Karen was missing.

And I was like, "I don't know who did it, I don't know what happened,

and I don't know where Karen is."

But I do know she was in some sort of trouble.

Carl Drew, he was a suspect,

but he also wasn't someone that we went to on the street to talk to.

He didn't make himself available.

Didn't want to see us.

Everybody we were trying to talk to would eventually end up

at an apartment in Harbor Terrace.

Sonny Sparda lived in Harbor Terrace,

which was a housing project in Fall River.

That was the main hangout for a number of people at that time.

Sonny Sparda had a history of being involved with drugs,

with street crime.

She was close friends with all of the players.

Carl Drew,

Robin,

Karen.

Robin had called Sonny one time.

And Fall River detectives, they happened to be there.

Sonny allowed me to listen in on the phone call.

And while doing so, Robin said

she was involved in this.

That set in motion Robin's arrest.

She was between a rock and a hard place.

She no doubt felt safer with the police than she did with Carl Drew.

They brought Robin over to the district attorney's office.

And she looked up. As soon as she saw me, she looked very upset.

At that point, she knew that state police were working

out of the district attorney's office,

and she thought that if she needed to get a deal,

it would be through the state police.

What happened with Robin is the district attorney's office

finally took her into protective custody

and that virtually eliminated our involvement with her.

Robin Murphy goes to the DA and they offer Robin pretty much a deal right then and there.

Robin says, Carl Drew forced all of these women to worship Satan

and used it as a mechanism to control their money, their take.

And that she was forced into this Satan cult worshipping horror show by Carl Drew.

Robin doesn't take any responsibility for the murder of Doreen Levesque.

Instead, she tells the Bristol County DA's office that Karen,

her romantic love interest, told her

that Carl wanted to make an offering to Satan.

Karen had been forced to participate,

that Carl told her we have to give her soul to Satan,

and that she picked up a rock and bashed the victim in the head.

But Robin had nothing to do with it.

Karen Marsden decided that she wants to leave Carl Drew and Satan altogether.

She wants nothing to do with Satan, goodbye devil.

Well, Karen Marsden had been a witness.

Carl was in total fear that Karen was gonna tell the story

about Carl's presence and participation with Doreen Levesque's homicide.

The death of Karen was quite simply to kill a witness,

to kill a witness to a murder.

I didn't believe it at the time.

But they killed her a few hours after I dropped her off.

I think about that often.

I knew that she would have a price to pay.

I didn't think for a moment that they would kill her.

They did.

Robin and Karen are on the street.

A car goes by, stops.

Carl is in the vehicle with a number of other people.

Carl says, "Come on, get in the car now."

The driver of the car is Carol Fletcher.

She's one of Carl Drew's prostitutes.

Also in the car is Carl Davis and Willie Smith.

Both of them are caught up in the drug culture in Fall River.

[Silvia] Robin's story was that they pulled Karen out of the car.

She punched Karen in the face, ripped her hair out,

ripped all her hair out and threw it on the ground.

Karen, she lived with Robin and they were lovers. They were a couple.

And the fact that Robin Murphy was the one who actually slit her throat...

just goes to show you the level of pure evil.

The state police dogs were hitting on that blood where she was killed,

where her throat was cut and she bled out.

Robin, she was afraid of him.

Robin wasn't afraid of too many people.

Robin says that Carl Drew, the son of Satan,

told them that they had to participate because they were offering her soul to Satan,

and that would somehow indemnify them from any sort of backlash.

We found evidence of where she was dragged

over nearly a two mile area.

Parts of her hair, some teeth.

Over that area where she was beaten and dragged before they decapitated her.

The body was never found.

There was rumors that they were playing soccer with her head in the woods.

I was in my early 20s, you know, when this stuff comes out.

It's so shocking.

You know, you're like, how can anybody make this up?

Carl actually kicked her skull after she was decapitated, kicked it in the air.

We could only find the upper portion of her teeth

and the rest of her skull.

We had evidence from others, Carol Fletcher.

Carol Fletcher took a deal for immunity.

The three men were indicted for murder.

Robin, she turned state's evidence.

It is also been revealed that her murder was a ritualistic killing

tied to a satanic cult that exists among prostitutes and pimps in Fall River.

This is somebody who is insanely, barbarically nuts.

And whether he did it to offer souls to Satan

or he did it because he's a deep-rooted evil wackadoodle,

I don't think there's a big difference there.

We were able to determine that there may have been more

than one individual involved in the crime.

[Charigbliss] There was a lot of fear in the city,

as far as, you know, watch where your children are and what they're doing.

I remember my mom being very upset

and praying all the time.

When you hear about that and you say, "Oh, there was satanic worshipping and stuff,"

you're kind of like... I was wet behind the ears. I thought that was...

That sounds right to me. Yeah. That seems plausible. You know?

Plus, I don't know anything about satanic worship, so...

you could say whatever. You could say they drink a can of chicken noodle soup,

you know, at 6:30 every night, and I...

"All right, if that's what they do, I don't know much about it." You know?

I always had faith in the legal system. I never thought that once would I ever get set up

and framed for a murder that I had nothing to do with.

Lots of people in prison say that they're innocent.

Twenty-five years ago, I met Carl Drew,

fifteen years after he'd been incarcerated.

What sticks it in my craw, what gives me a...

it still gives me a lump in my throat,

is knowing that he remains in prison.

This injustice will haunt me...

until I die,

until he dies, or until he's released.

And I appreciate your efforts to document what happened to Carl.

It was bullshit, it never happened.

[male reporter] Police take away boxes full of bones

and satanic paraphernalia.

"Do you wish to sell your soul to Satan?

Do you drink blood?" According to this note,

these were just a couple of the questions you have to answer

if you wanna be a part of this cult.

It was a made-up story.

It was a made-up story to hide from what the truth was.

There's no physical evidence at all

tying Carl Drew to these crimes,

not a single iota of physical evidence.

The night that she was supposed to have been killed, I was at my stepmother's wedding.

I had photos of me there.

Carl Drew had nothing to do with these murders.

Everybody knows it. Everybody.