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Nice to meet you.
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- Okay.
- Yes.
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[Sacha Baron Cohen] In Borat
Subsequent Moviefilm,
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I lived with two
conspiracy theorists,
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in character, for several days.
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- Vaccines.
- Bill Gates.
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- Mail-in ballots.
- Chinese virus.
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-Drink their blood.
-Not nice.
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[Sacha] The myths
and misinformation
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they shared with Borat
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fuel a dangerous rhetoric
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that is tearing apart societies
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in front of our eyes.
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In this series of episodes,
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we'll introduce Jim and Jerry
to world-leading experts,
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doctors and academics,
who will address
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some of the most dangerous
conspiracies head-on
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and debunk them face-to-face.
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Hello, Jim and Jerry.
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This is Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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The Clintons are very evil.
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Extremely evil.
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Supposedly, they torture
these kids.
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Well, what it does is it,
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um, it gets their
adrenaline flowing
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- in their body.
- [Jerry] Mm-hmm.
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Then they take that out of
their adrenal, adrenal glands,
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and then they drink their blood,
or that... that out of their...
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- [Jerry] I've heard about
things like that. - Yeah.
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Uh, Hillary Clinton drink
the, uh, blood of children?
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That's what we've heard.
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[narrator] This conspiracy
theory began
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when disgraced congressman
Anthony Weiner
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began sexting an underage girl.
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During the investigation,
the FBI seized his laptop,
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which contained confidential
emails between Hillary Clinton
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and her former aide,
Weiner's wife Huma Abedin.
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Within hours,
a conspiracy theory website
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claims a video called
"Frazzledrip"
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was found on Weiner's
hard drive.
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To support this false claim,
heavily doctored photos,
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including an image that was
ultimately sourced to have
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originated on the website
of a popular D.C. restaurant,
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were manipulated
and put forward as proof.
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The nonexistent video was said
to contain footage of Hillary
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and Huma wearing the face
of a young girl
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and drinking her blood.
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This reference is a modern
reworking of the centuries-old,
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anti-Semitic myth of blood libel
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that claims
that Jews used the blood
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of Christian children
to make matzah for Passover.
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Though completely based
on falsehoods,
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online videos claiming
that "Frazzledrip" is real
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have been viewed millions
of times,
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and the conspiracy's core ideas
of ritualistic murder,
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cannibalism and blood libel
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have found a receptive
and ready audience online.
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- I'm Jerry and this is Jim.
- I'm Jim.
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I'm Andrew.
I'm in New York right now.
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Poor guy, but okay.
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[newswoman] Journalist
Andrew Marantz.
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[newsman] Staff writer
at The New Yorker
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and author of the book
Antisocial.
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[Andrew] Thank you
so much for doing this.
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I-I think it's just
a really exciting opportunity.
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Thank you for talking to us.
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Yeah.
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This thing, this "Frazzledrip"
or whatever...
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What would they gain from it?
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Well, the, the way the theory
goes is that they are, kind of,
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addicted to this compound called
adrenochrome in the kids' blood.
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- I've heard of that before.
- You've heard of that?
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The adrenochroming
of children...
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Adrenochrome.
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- Yeah. - [minister] And by
a show of hands,
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who's heard that word before,
in this building?
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[Jerry] Are these people
really doing this?
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I mean, if they are,
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what the hell's wrong with them?
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Though I wouldn't put it past
someone, doing this.
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You know, none of that is true.
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But, throughout history,
there have been these theories
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that there is a kind of
secret, powerful cabal
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of elite people who do these
kind of occult rituals.
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You know, going back
thousands of years,
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there would be this idea
that Jews are out there
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roaming around, trying to kill
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Christian babies
and drink their blood.
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It's actually such a,
such a common trope that it's...
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There's a name for it.
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- It's called...
- I've never heard that.
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- Yeah.
- It's called what?
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It's called "blood libel."
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In the Middle Ages
some things that happened,
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that people felt they
couldn't explain,
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were blamed on the Jews.
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Because they were
a religious minority,
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that they were evil, came
the idea of the blood libel.
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Even up to the 20th century,
before the First World War,
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there were trials of Jews
who were blamed for abducting
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and taking the blood
from young, Christian boys.
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Anti-Semitism has been
at the core
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of most racist misinformation
throughout history.
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You scratch a racist, you find
an anti-Semite underneath.
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I would go further.
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In the digital world,
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you often find a misogynist
underneath, as well.
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[Alex Jones] I mean,
this woman is dangerous,
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ladies and gentlemen.
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She is a demon.
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This is biblical.
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She's going to launch
a nuclear war.
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She is an abject,
psychopathic demon from hell.
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[horn honks]
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[Andrew] You know,
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it's one thing to talk
about politicians,
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you know,
doing corrupt things for money.
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That's a pretty standard thing
throughout history.
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But being involved with,
sort of, you know,
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underground rituals with
children and that kind of stuff,
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how do you tell, you know,
which of these, kind of,
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outlandish things
to believe or not?
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Like, for example...
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What would
your estimated number be
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for how many people you think
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Hillary Clinton has killed
or has had killed?
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150, 200 people.
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And that's something
I feel serious about.
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These conspiracy theorists
make a leap
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from the undeniable
to the unbelievable.
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And I think people make
the leap to the unbelievable
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because it reinforces
their political values.
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Because they say, "I've always
hated the Clintons,
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and now I know why.
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It's not only that I disagree
with their policies
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and I dislike them personally,
but Hillary Clinton
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is killing children
and drinking their blood."
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This is a conspiracy theory
as, as, as a revival.
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It has absolutely
no basis in truth,
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either in the Middle Ages
or today.
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Either people are trying
to discredit her
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or they're expressing
their own hatred for her.
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Their fundamental belief
that she is evil
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in a symbolic kind of way.
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[producer] Jim and Jerry,
someone who couldn't partake
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in this but wanted
to get you a message,
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gave us a videotape that we're
going to play for you.
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Hello, Jim and Jerry, this is
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Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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And I know
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you've heard, uh, a few things
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about me, uh,
that you might believe,
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and I know
that you're not alone.
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It's hurtful.
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I'll be really honest with you.
It's hurtful.
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Not just to me and my family,
but, you know, to my friends
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and other people who know,
uh, that, uh, this is,
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uh, not just false but,
you know, sometimes
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painfully false.
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So, just as one American
to another,
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um, I hope that we can
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start trying to find
some common ground again
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and overcome all those forces
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trying to divide us
and put us into little boxes
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apart from each other, uh,
because wouldn't it be great to,
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kind of, come together
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instead of drift apart.
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Uh, I hope that's possible.
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Thank you.
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I just can't stand her.
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