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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:14,849 Nice to meet you. 2 00:00:14,932 --> 00:00:17,226 - Okay. - Yes. 3 00:00:17,309 --> 00:00:19,937 [Sacha Baron Cohen] In Borat Subsequent Moviefilm, 4 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:21,856 I lived with two conspiracy theorists, 5 00:00:21,939 --> 00:00:23,816 in character, for several days. 6 00:00:23,941 --> 00:00:24,942 - Vaccines. - Bill Gates. 7 00:00:25,025 --> 00:00:26,694 - Mail-in ballots. - Chinese virus. 8 00:00:26,777 --> 00:00:28,571 -Drink their blood. -Not nice. 9 00:00:28,654 --> 00:00:30,239 [Sacha] The myths and misinformation 10 00:00:30,322 --> 00:00:31,449 they shared with Borat 11 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:33,242 fuel a dangerous rhetoric 12 00:00:33,325 --> 00:00:34,994 that is tearing apart societies 13 00:00:35,077 --> 00:00:35,995 in front of our eyes. 14 00:00:36,078 --> 00:00:37,872 In this series of episodes, 15 00:00:37,955 --> 00:00:41,125 we'll introduce Jim and Jerry to world-leading experts, 16 00:00:41,167 --> 00:00:43,794 doctors and academics, who will address 17 00:00:43,878 --> 00:00:46,088 some of the most dangerous conspiracies head-on 18 00:00:46,172 --> 00:00:48,674 and debunk them face-to-face. 19 00:00:48,758 --> 00:00:49,675 Hello, Jim and Jerry. 20 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:51,802 This is Hillary Rodham Clinton. 21 00:00:55,139 --> 00:00:57,057 [Jim] That is a virus 22 00:00:57,141 --> 00:00:59,185 that was developed in China, 23 00:00:59,268 --> 00:01:00,519 Wuhan, China. 24 00:01:00,603 --> 00:01:03,647 They made a-a virus that kills people. 25 00:01:03,731 --> 00:01:06,066 So that means that you have to be locked down. 26 00:01:06,150 --> 00:01:07,860 You can't go out. 27 00:01:07,943 --> 00:01:11,155 Your Democrats are trying to brainwash people. 28 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:13,449 They're saying that we shouldn't be at work. 29 00:01:13,491 --> 00:01:16,410 And I feel like, that they helped the Chinese create this. 30 00:01:16,452 --> 00:01:18,078 [Jim] Correct. 31 00:01:18,162 --> 00:01:19,914 Democrats with Obama, 32 00:01:19,997 --> 00:01:22,750 and I think it goes back to the Clintons, 33 00:01:22,833 --> 00:01:24,668 when they were also in office. 34 00:01:33,427 --> 00:01:35,179 [narrator] This conversation contains several 35 00:01:35,262 --> 00:01:37,932 conspiracy theories that have circulated since the onset 36 00:01:38,015 --> 00:01:40,768 of the coronavirus pandemic. 37 00:01:40,851 --> 00:01:43,854 From the moment the outbreak began, many influential figures 38 00:01:43,938 --> 00:01:46,857 began to spread unfounded accusations. 39 00:01:46,941 --> 00:01:49,568 U.S. Senator Tom Cotton sent a tweet 40 00:01:49,652 --> 00:01:53,030 connecting the coronavirus to a Wuhan laboratory. 41 00:01:53,113 --> 00:01:55,699 In India, scientists speculated that the virus 42 00:01:55,783 --> 00:01:58,160 may be genetically engineered. 43 00:01:58,244 --> 00:02:00,830 In China, theories on social media 44 00:02:00,913 --> 00:02:03,249 claimed that the U.S. had manufactured the virus 45 00:02:03,332 --> 00:02:05,376 as a weapon. 46 00:02:06,585 --> 00:02:09,755 As the virus spread, so did the finger-pointing. 47 00:02:09,839 --> 00:02:12,633 Rush Limbaugh tells his listeners that medical experts, 48 00:02:12,716 --> 00:02:15,052 like Dr. Fauci, are Clinton sympathizers 49 00:02:15,135 --> 00:02:17,847 who want to get rid of Trump. 50 00:02:17,930 --> 00:02:19,640 Representative Matt Gaetz tweets out 51 00:02:19,723 --> 00:02:21,809 a Washington Examiner article amplifying 52 00:02:21,892 --> 00:02:24,562 the Obama-Wuhan connection story. 53 00:02:25,771 --> 00:02:27,857 As the death toll rose in the U.S., 54 00:02:27,940 --> 00:02:30,651 Donald Trump blamed China and its people 55 00:02:30,734 --> 00:02:33,404 while simultaneously downplaying the coronavirus. 56 00:02:34,905 --> 00:02:38,784 Even after scientists confirmed that the virus was not man-made, 57 00:02:38,868 --> 00:02:43,038 conspiracies continued to expand exponentially. 58 00:02:43,122 --> 00:02:45,082 - There we go. - There you are. 59 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:46,667 I'm excited to meet you. 60 00:02:46,750 --> 00:02:48,168 Excited to meet you. 61 00:02:48,252 --> 00:02:50,045 My first movie stars I've ever met. [laughs] 62 00:02:50,129 --> 00:02:52,423 - Yeah. We just hang out, man. - Yeah? 63 00:02:52,506 --> 00:02:54,842 So, I'm Jennifer. Did they tell you anything about me? 64 00:02:54,925 --> 00:02:57,177 - You're a doctor or something, right? - [newswoman] I'm joined 65 00:02:57,261 --> 00:02:59,805 by Dr. Jennifer Nuzzo with the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School. 66 00:02:59,889 --> 00:03:02,558 Dr. Nuzzo, great to have you back on the NewsHour. 67 00:03:02,641 --> 00:03:05,394 When I think back to who had it right, it's you. 68 00:03:05,477 --> 00:03:07,563 You know, this pandemic's been so hard, 69 00:03:07,646 --> 00:03:10,107 but the best thing, for me, has been to meet people 70 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:11,901 that I wouldn't otherwise get to meet 71 00:03:11,984 --> 00:03:13,319 - and to share what I know. - [Jim] Right. 72 00:03:13,402 --> 00:03:14,778 And I think it's really important for us to have 73 00:03:14,862 --> 00:03:16,780 - conversations about tough issues... - Yes. 74 00:03:16,864 --> 00:03:18,073 and share information. 75 00:03:18,157 --> 00:03:19,783 Okay, let me ask you this, then. 76 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:22,620 The reason being, is it because the Chinese mutated it? 77 00:03:22,703 --> 00:03:25,831 So, we have no evidence that that happened. 78 00:03:25,915 --> 00:03:28,792 In fact, um, virologists who have looked very closely 79 00:03:28,876 --> 00:03:31,337 at the genetic sequence of the virus have concluded 80 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:35,007 that it was, very likely, not engineered by a human. 81 00:03:35,090 --> 00:03:36,759 That it most likely originated from bats. 82 00:03:36,842 --> 00:03:39,637 And whether it went directly from bats to humans, 83 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,722 or if it went from bats to another animal, 84 00:03:41,805 --> 00:03:43,599 we don't, uh, fully know yet. 85 00:03:43,682 --> 00:03:47,102 Well, the scientist that, uh... the first lady that took 86 00:03:47,186 --> 00:03:49,438 that out of the laboratory died from it, so... 87 00:03:49,521 --> 00:03:51,231 Yeah, so let's, let's talk about that a little bit. 88 00:03:51,315 --> 00:03:52,608 - Um... - Okay. 89 00:03:52,691 --> 00:03:54,109 Because I, I heard those stories, too, 90 00:03:54,193 --> 00:03:56,153 and there's actually no evidence that that happened. 91 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:58,405 There was, I know, one woman who, um, 92 00:03:58,489 --> 00:04:00,866 published a story alleging a number of things 93 00:04:00,950 --> 00:04:03,702 that have since been debunked by, by actual scientists. 94 00:04:03,786 --> 00:04:06,664 Um, the thing about these viruses, 95 00:04:06,747 --> 00:04:09,458 these respiratory viruses, they move fast, 96 00:04:09,541 --> 00:04:12,044 and it's really hard for any country to stop them 97 00:04:12,127 --> 00:04:14,505 from spreading outside of their borders. 98 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:17,675 That's just how these things are, and I just really worry 99 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:19,969 when we start pointing fingers in the absence of evidence. 100 00:04:20,052 --> 00:04:21,637 [Trump] Some important developments 101 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,598 in our war against the Chinese virus. 102 00:04:24,682 --> 00:04:27,476 I have to call it where it came from. It did come from China. 103 00:04:27,559 --> 00:04:29,979 So I think it's a very accurate term. 104 00:04:30,062 --> 00:04:31,730 Kung flu. 105 00:04:31,814 --> 00:04:34,441 - I can name... - [crowd murmuring] 106 00:04:34,525 --> 00:04:36,610 19 different versions of names. 107 00:04:36,694 --> 00:04:39,196 - The Chinese virus. - [crowd cheering] 108 00:04:39,321 --> 00:04:41,490 [woman news reporter] Why is this a global competition to you 109 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:44,660 if every day Americans are still losing their lives? 110 00:04:44,743 --> 00:04:47,121 Well, they're losing their lives everywhere in the world, 111 00:04:47,204 --> 00:04:50,290 and maybe that's a question you should ask China. 112 00:04:50,374 --> 00:04:52,251 That China focus 113 00:04:52,334 --> 00:04:55,546 really put blinders on us and our response. 114 00:04:55,629 --> 00:04:59,008 Such that the virus could be coming in from other places, 115 00:04:59,091 --> 00:05:00,592 and we wouldn't have been able to detect it 116 00:05:00,676 --> 00:05:02,428 and we weren't able to stop it. 117 00:05:02,511 --> 00:05:04,555 And so, the huge surge of cases in New York 118 00:05:04,638 --> 00:05:07,224 wasn't due to an introduction from China. 119 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:09,685 It was due to an introduction from Europe. 120 00:05:09,768 --> 00:05:14,064 Conspiracy theories can often have real consequences. 121 00:05:14,148 --> 00:05:17,234 When Europe was hit by the Bubonic Plague-- 122 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,278 was in 1348 or '49-- 123 00:05:19,361 --> 00:05:21,739 this is blamed on Jews allegedly poisoning the wells, 124 00:05:21,822 --> 00:05:23,073 and there were horrific scenes 125 00:05:23,157 --> 00:05:25,409 where Jews were burned alive in the town squares, 126 00:05:25,492 --> 00:05:29,038 but that kind of conspiracist belief has continued 127 00:05:29,121 --> 00:05:31,498 to, to the present day, as we can see. 128 00:05:31,582 --> 00:05:34,501 It's impossible to explain why on earth 129 00:05:34,585 --> 00:05:36,545 the Chinese would want to do this, 130 00:05:36,628 --> 00:05:39,965 given the fact that it had a serious impact on their, 131 00:05:40,049 --> 00:05:43,510 on their own country, but that's a kind of bogeyman 132 00:05:43,594 --> 00:05:46,805 that emerges at the center of conspiracy theories. 133 00:05:46,889 --> 00:05:48,891 Soon as that spreads and reaches 134 00:05:48,974 --> 00:05:52,352 people who are racially prejudiced against Chinese, 135 00:05:52,436 --> 00:05:53,812 you get physical attacks. 136 00:05:53,896 --> 00:05:56,148 [newswoman] Asian Americans are facing discrimination 137 00:05:56,231 --> 00:05:58,317 not felt since the Japanese American internment camps 138 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,444 during World War II. 139 00:06:00,527 --> 00:06:03,030 Do you not think it would be useful for, at this point, 140 00:06:03,113 --> 00:06:04,990 for Donald Trump to say, "You know what, 141 00:06:05,074 --> 00:06:06,742 leave Asian Americans alone." 142 00:06:06,825 --> 00:06:08,160 - Yes, I agree with that. - That statement... 143 00:06:08,243 --> 00:06:10,454 - Do you not think he should be saying that? - Yes. 144 00:06:10,537 --> 00:06:12,748 That statement could be said very clearly by anybody. 145 00:06:12,831 --> 00:06:14,458 Yep, I agree with that. 146 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:16,627 But by, by, by Donald Trump, who called it the "China virus." 147 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:20,798 The problem is that all political sides pretend opinions 148 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:23,926 are facts and then use it to achieve their aim because they 149 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:26,470 can't be bothered to actually argue the point properly. 150 00:06:26,553 --> 00:06:29,473 I have no doubt that, if there weren't 151 00:06:29,556 --> 00:06:31,892 so much misinformation out there, we could have saved 152 00:06:31,975 --> 00:06:35,229 tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of lives. 153 00:06:38,190 --> 00:06:41,235 ♪ ♪ 154 00:06:41,285 --> 00:06:45,835 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 12404

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