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- [Rudy] Bob.
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The only way we can possibly
prevent you from being indicted
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is if you come forward, tell the truth,
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we can try to work it out.
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- [Bob] You want me to go and say
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I did all these kinds of
things, I'll never do it.
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- [Rudy] Why?
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- I'm not gonna implicate
any of my friends.
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I'll never hurt Mandato,
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I'll never hurt Wolff,
I'll never hurt Cody.
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I'm not gonna do it,
those are my partners.
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I'm not gonna do it.
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And so two guys go and
both fuck yourselves.
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[suspenseful music]
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- [Interviewer] You were a hero to some
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others were furious at you
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that you broke the code of
silence among police officers.
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- Bob Leuci turned around
on the essential problem,
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the corruption that existed
in the narcotics enforcement.
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- It was so difficult to
tell who was the good guy
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and who was the bad guy.
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What is right in this
scene? What is wrong?
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- [Man] Bob Leuci committed
probably more crimes
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than almost any other police officer
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in the city of New York.
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- He really thought he was going to be
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this great American hero.
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[traffic passing]
[horn honking]
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[phone beeping]
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- [Bob] Hi Magnus, how are you?
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- [Magnus] I'm good. How are you?
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- [Bob] I feel better today.
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Not great, but better.
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- [Magnus] Could we maybe
in the next month or so,
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find a time?
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- [Bob] I don't know.
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I really don't.
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I would think so, but I don't know.
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I'm afraid, you know what I'm saying?
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[suspenseful music]
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- Yeah, he's one of the
most complex people I know.
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Cops today may not know Bob personally
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or know anything about his unit, the SIU.
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They say terrible things about it.
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Because that's what you do
to demonstrate your loyalty
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to the brotherhood.
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If there's a cop who rats on another cop,
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his home will have a
wreath put on the door
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and the wreath is made up
of a string of dead rats.
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It's a sign, we're watching you buddy.
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Watch your step.
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[sirens wailing]
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- Our next guest is a man who at one time
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was a top New York City detective.
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His testimony broke one of the
biggest tales of corruption
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ever uncovered in New York
City Police Department.
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- He gave up the code.
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He made the NYPD look like garbage
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and was a criminal just
like the drug dealers
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that he covered.
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- How did you wind up being a crooked cop?
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- When I was in training,
his name was among the names
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I was told not to work with.
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His shield was for sale
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and he was a disgrace
to what we stood for.
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And the thought was, if I worked
with him, I could get hurt.
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[soft guitar music]
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- [Bob] A lot of people
have gotten angry with me.
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You know, why are you doing this?
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Why are you opening this all up again?
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And they throw darts at my picture.
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We'll set it up and I'll do it, okay?
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- Yeah, let's do that.
- All right.
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- Cool, okay, see you soon.
- Bye, bye.
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♪ Pool Hall, quarter a ball ♪
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♪ Pick your stick and
hang it on the wall ♪
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♪ Aim slow, shoot it low ♪
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♪ Fall for it all and you'll never know ♪
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♪ There a black eight,
won't roll straight ♪
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♪ Scratch every match
and you're easy bait ♪
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♪ For a cue shark, shootin' his mark ♪
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♪ To a pay day give away in the dark ♪
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[dog barking]
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- Don't you, that's too close!
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Get--fucking back up.
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Back up.
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Jesus, these fucking Norwegian pricks.
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Underneath my coat.
- All right.
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- [Bob] Does that make any sense?
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- [Interviewer] How do
you feel about this?
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- Well, I mean, really
it's hard in the beginning
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but we'll get going and get it right.
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- Having a documentary about
him at this stage in his life
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would really put things
in perspective for him,
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for his family, for his friends,
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for anyone who saw it who knew him
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from the beginning of
this journey that he took.
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[soft music]
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- I should have the students
sign up pretty soon.
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I mean, I'm not sure,
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I fill my classes usually.
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I train police all over the country.
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I talk to them about working undercover.
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I try to explain to
them what you have to do
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to make sure you understand who you are.
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Once you become a reflection
of the people that you police,
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you begin looking like
them, dressing like them,
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wearing your hair like
them, talking like them.
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You've been then taken by them.
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That's a world you visit.
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It's not a world you become part of.
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And I became part of it.
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♪ He is on your side ♪
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- [Narrator] Yes, the man
in blue is on your side.
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Cooperate with the New
York City police officers
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in your neighborhood.
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- My whole life from the time I was 18,
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I always wanted to be a policeman.
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[soft music]
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There's a certain kind of
bonding that takes place
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that you don't find in
any other profession.
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And I couldn't imagine living
any other kind of life.
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[sirens]
[police radio]
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I was a good kid in high school.
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I went to college and played
football out in Kansas.
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I never smoked a joint.
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I never broke any law.
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I took the test when I was 19.
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I came back and I became a cop.
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My father was a socialist,
really a communist.
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He didn't have a great
love for the police.
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And he hated the idea
that I would become a cop.
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And I probably did it more
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because he hated the idea so much.
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[upbeat music]
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- [Reporter] New York
City's Police Department,
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by far the nation's
largest with 31,000 men.
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- Most of the policemen in this city
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I think they have a very rough job.
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I think it's a dangerous job.
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- [Woman] The police is doing
a good job in their duty
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and if it wasn't for them,
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a lot of crimes could have been committed.
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- I was very strong pro-police.
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My sense was that if I wear a uniform
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and I tell you to do something, you do it.
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I was a street guy very much.
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[upbeat music continues]
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I felt very much a part of the city.
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The city was my city in a lot of ways.
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[siren wailing]
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I was young, full of energy.
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In a short time, they put me
into the narcotics division.
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[people chattering]
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- Bob Leuci was assigned
to my office in Brooklyn
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at the time, this was in the early 60s.
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He looked like a choir boy and
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very innocent looking and
didn't look like a policeman.
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[suspenseful music]
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- When you heard the name Baby Face,
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you knew it was Bob Leuci.
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That was his name, Baby Face,
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'cause he was so young looking.
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- Good looking guy.
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Very charming, very personable.
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Could wrap you around
his finger in a minute.
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- We were colleagues,
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you know, saw each other just about daily.
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When they'd make arrests,
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he was very good with the prisoners.
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[man yelling]
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- [Bob] Calm down, calm down, calm down.
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Take it easy, take it easy.
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- And because he was an easy going guy,
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he was able to charm the prisoners
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and get information from them.
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- [Prisoner] What a small precinct.
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This the lousiest precinct in the Bronx.
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- It was mainly his
personality that, you know,
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that got him moving along.
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- I was smaller than the average cop
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so I used to get dressed up as a woman.
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- Do you get a lot of
kidding from the boys
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when you have to dress up this way?
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- You do feel self-conscious, you know,
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in a way, feel that it
isn't your normal dress.
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You know, whenever you wear something
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that's not your normal
dress you think everybody's,
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when you go out in the
street you feel like,
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know that I'm a man, you
know, self-conscious.
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- He had the guile and the
persona to sell a character.
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He was an actor.
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[sirens wailing]
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[police radio]
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- The first thing I would do
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as soon as I went out into
the street, I would buy drugs.
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It was so easy for me.
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There were drugs everywhere
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and people always wanted to sell me drugs.
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And I'd make arrests.
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[sirens wailing]
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- We must wage what I
have called total war
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against public enemy number
one in the United States,
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the problem of dangerous drugs.
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- [Reporter] Official estimates claim
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there are now 300,000 addicts
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of heroin alone and a growing proportion
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of them are teenagers.
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- Everybody in the whole block use heroin.
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Old lady, 85, use heroin.
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Young people nine to 12 use heroin.
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- Nine years old?
- Nine years old.
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- I just tried it once, you know?
I wanted to see...
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I wanted more of the drugs,
I want to get high at times.
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- We've got to be harsh with
those who are dealing in it
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on the street level.
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And that's what these
youngsters are doing.
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[pounding]
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[officers yelling]
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- Treating addicts as
if they are criminals
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and chasing them and fighting
them and hitting 'em,
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I did it for it years.
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- [Officer] Easy, easy,
easy does it, easy does it.
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- Then I had plenty of guys who
worked with me in the street
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were great informants and then
they would beg me for drugs.
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And then I got to a point
where I was giving drugs
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to my informants.
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I would do it every day almost.
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- It was a method of getting
information from the addicts
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and it was hard to
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curtail it,
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but I made him aware of
the dangers involved.
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I imagined he understood.
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[crowd chattering]
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- [Reporter] Wednesday night,
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two patrolmen were critically wounded
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when their patrol car was
riddled with 45 caliber bullets
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apparently from a submachine
gun fired from another auto.
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- I regard this as the most
dastardly possible act.
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- At the same time,
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there were these various
liberation groups going around
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killing policemen and
shooting them in the back,
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and it was a horrible, bad time.
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- [Reporter] One officer, a negro,
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was shot in the back of the head.
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The other, a white man, had
eight 45 caliber bullets
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in his back.
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- These people are the
worst kind of vermin
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that God ever put on this earth.
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[people yelling]
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[gun firing]
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- We had 275 gangs in the
Bronx where I was working
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when I first started
and they all hated cops.
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[indistinct voices]
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They were killing cops
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like they would get a cup of coffee.
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[intense somber music]
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- They say that we were
very brutal, you know, in those days.
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But fact of the matter is there
was brutality all around us.
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Y'know, how would you
expect us not to be?
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[crowd yelling]
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[people chanting]
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You find that the only
people you can trust
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are other policeman.
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You turn inward instead
of turning outward.
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You turn inward to protect yourself
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you know, and it becomes
this blue code of silence.
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[indistinct voices]
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- In order to fight and defeat this enemy,
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it is necessary to wage
a new all-out offensive.
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I've asked the Congress to
provide the legislative authority
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and the funds to fuel
this kind of offensive.
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- The teams will be shifted around
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to where the action is and
where work can be performed.
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[upbeat music]
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- I wanted to be in this special unit.
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[banging]
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- [Reporter] The newly formed SIU,
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Special Investigations Unit.
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- It was a small unit within
the narcotics division.
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Some of the best detectives in the city.
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They were the detectives that made
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the French Connection case.
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- [Reporter] 398 pounds of narcotics
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worth at least $70 million.
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- This was a combination
of about two months
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of investigation into the activities
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of this particular group of people.
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- They made up their own cases.
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They got their own targets.
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They did everything on their own.
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[high pitched music]
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- [Reporter] This is part of
a 12 and a half million dollar
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illegal consignment,
enough to feed the habits
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of all the city's drug
addicts for several weeks.
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[drumming music]
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- [Man] Three out of five major European
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and South American heroin
rings have been busted
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in the past a couple of years.
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- But everyone in that unit
was over six feet tall.
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They were all ex
paratroopers and ex Marines.
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It was really a crazy unit.
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And I was too small.
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But I kept insisting
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and I was going for interviews
and writing, calling.
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And finally, they gave me a chance.
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I was the first one in the
unit under six feet tall.
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- Somebody once said they
were the princes of the city,
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they could arrest somebody
or not as they choose.
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They could do anything they wanted
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the way medieval princes could.
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They were untouchable.
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And they were for a time.
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[people chattering]
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- What was special about the SIU was that
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they didn't have any rules.
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They were doing great things.
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They were clearing drugs off the street.
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They were stopping people from dying.
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And so the rules didn't apply to them
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and they knew that.
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[indistinct voices]
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As long as they were bringing
in the drug kingpins,
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nobody asked any questions.
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They were the princes,
they were the elite.
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[suspenseful music]
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- The amount of money involved
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in the drug business is astronomical.
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I mean, it's beyond
anything you could imagine.
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I would go into an apartment
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where there were thousands
of dollars laying around
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all over the place.
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These are people who
could barely read or write
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and they had more money than
I could ever dream of having.
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- And SIU came in contact
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with the high level drug dealers
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who had a lot of money to corrupt
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the law enforcement system.
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We sort of knew about it
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but there was a culture
of keep your mouth shut.
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[piano music]
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- Police corruption has always been there.
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It got worse when we started
enforcing the drug laws
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very vigorously, the war on drugs created
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or contributed to the corruption.
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- I first went into the unit
and I was there about a week.
351
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I couldn't find a partner,
no one wanted to work with me.
352
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I never had trouble getting partners
353
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but this particular group
of guys wouldn't work on me.
354
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I couldn't figure it out
until finally somebody said,
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"Look, people are afraid of you."
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You know...
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I said, "Afraid of what?"
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Well, if there's money around,
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people are gonna take some.
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They were afraid if you
were gonna be there,
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and it was because I never took any money.
362
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[suspenseful music]
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- You're only making 250 a week.
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It's tough.
365
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And when some dirt bag out
there turns around and says-
366
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- "I can take care of your problem."
367
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- "How about I give it 10 grand this week
368
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and 10 grand every week from now on
369
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and you just help me out a little."
370
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It's very easy to be corrupted.
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[upbeat music]
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- There was a retirement party going on
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from one of the major
chiefs of detectives.
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And every detective in New York City
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was going to his
retirement party, everyone.
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[music continues]
[laughing, cheering]
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Except me and my team.
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And they said, "Well,
you guys brand new here.
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What we want you to do is to drive
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to this location in the Bronx.
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And watch these two Cuban guys from Miami
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who were gonna be in this motel."
383
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,440
Now they were supposed
to be major drug dealers,
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big time drug dealers from Florida.
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I'm following the one guy,
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he's going places all over the city.
387
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He's going to places mostly in Harlem
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and a lot of places in the Bronx.
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[ominous music]
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But he's not bringing anything,
391
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he's picking things up all the time,
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always picking up a bag, an attache case.
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They go back to the motel
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and they began emptying their hotel room.
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So we call this guy out,
396
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this Cuban guy and my
Lieutenant spoke to him.
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He says he'll get the keys from them
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and go open the trunks of the cars.
399
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It was the most money
I've ever seen in my life.
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[music intensifies]
401
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Bundles of money wrapped
in red rubber bands
402
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all over the cars.
403
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Cars start pulling up from this party.
404
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,560
A lieutenant and four detectives is five,
405
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another sergeant and four
detectives is 10, us four.
406
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,400
14 cops in the parking lot of this motel.
407
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,040
He's like, "I don't know,
what do you want to do?
408
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,040
What should we do?"
409
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,160
There was no crime there per se
410
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,440
but they had all this money.
411
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,680
Everybody's standing
around and he looks at me,
412
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because we were brand
new, me and my partner.
413
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,600
"What are we going do with it?
414
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,520
Take it? Return it? Turn
it over to the police?
415
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,560
What should we do?"
416
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,960
Lieutenant then says, "Look,
as far as I'm concerned
417
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we take half the money,
give them half the money.
418
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If nobody objects, let
them get out of here
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and that'll be it."
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00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,160
And I look at him, I'm looking around
421
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,920
and I wanted to raise my hand.
422
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,840
I should've said something.
423
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,840
I should've done something, I could have.
424
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,440
And I think it may have ended right there
425
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,240
but I didn't have the courage.
426
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,080
[dramatic music]
427
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,000
- He could have been a good cop.
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00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,280
Had he operated in a different
time or a different place,
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he would have been a
very good police officer,
430
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,920
but he came into a culture of corruption.
431
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,640
He became part of it.
432
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,760
- He might as well be
dirty and make a profit
433
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,440
and do anything he could
434
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,920
because everybody around him was doing it.
435
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,600
And he adopted right away, became dirty.
436
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,360
- When you get to the level of SIU
437
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,080
and you're wearing the suits
438
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,080
and you're wearing the hats
439
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,760
and you're becoming engulfed
in this new culture,
440
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,640
are you losing sight
of who you really are?
441
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,320
- And I want to stop now, okay?
442
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,920
Okay?
443
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,440
And then we'll go on from there.
444
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,480
But right now I'm tired.
445
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,080
I'll be right outside.
- Cool.
446
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,080
- Is that what you want
to do, outside right?
447
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,800
- Yeah.
- Okay.
448
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,960
[heavy breathing]
449
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,880
- It was really important to Bob
450
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,840
that the people that he liked adored him.
451
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,360
He wanted it to be all of
his friends' best friend.
452
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,880
[soft music]
453
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,320
He was the oldest son
in an Italian family.
454
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,920
And his mother thought he was
the golden boy of New York.
455
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,800
She just thought he was the
greatest thing in the world.
456
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,240
Almost every mother thinks
that about their children
457
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,720
but I think she took it to a level
458
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,840
where he could never do anything wrong.
459
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,640
She had said to him once,
460
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,400
"If you ever kill anyone,
461
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,520
I know it's going to
be for a good reason."
462
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,880
- And I began doing
things that I would never
463
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,640
have dreamt of doing
before I became a cop.
464
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,640
[upbeat piano music]
465
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,520
- The SIU evolved into
a unit who were really
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00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,880
more gangsters than the police officers.
467
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,360
They took advantage of the
opportunities that they had.
468
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,400
[slow jazzy music]
469
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,280
- They went to the best restaurants.
470
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,440
They dressed with Armani suits.
471
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,120
They had the best cars.
472
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,640
Why?
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Because they were all stealing.
474
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,800
♪ Give it up, to give it up ♪
475
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,960
♪ You know what's on my mind ♪
476
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,720
♪ Give it up, to give it up, girl ♪
477
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,400
♪ You've been wastin' too much time ♪
478
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840
- They took two bundles of
stuff that I had, $5 each,
479
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,440
and $150 I had and they let me go.
480
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,400
- They came and took all my
drugs and just let me go.
481
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,000
- Who's they?
- The police.
482
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,720
- It was just breaking the law.
483
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,120
Just violating the law
in a very serious way.
484
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,280
I mean, I committed,
really, a lot of felony.
485
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,480
♪ Now give it to me ♪
486
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,640
- Let some people go and arrest others.
487
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,280
♪ Give it to me ♪
488
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,160
- I certainly used illegal wire taps
489
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,560
and bugged people's homes.
490
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,080
I bugged their phones.
491
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,080
- [Reporter] Using
electronic surveillance,
492
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,720
SIU cops would find out when drug pushers
493
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,480
were about to make a big deal.
494
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280
After a raid, the cops kept
the most of the seized cash
495
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,280
and drugs for themselves.
496
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,680
[soft music]
497
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,760
- Once I went along with this program,
498
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,960
everybody's hugging me.
499
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,960
We all got together where
the money was shared
500
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,000
then given to each.
501
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,600
Some people got a lot more than others.
502
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,920
It was a sense of all of
a sudden, a belonging,
503
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880
that we were all part of
the same Robin Hood group.
504
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,040
[man laughing]
505
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,560
This whole business of a
shared kind of doing something
506
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120
you shouldn't be doing,
everyone doing it together.
507
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,960
[background chatter]
508
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,760
95% of the people in
that unit were corrupt,
509
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840
including all the bosses.
510
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,280
And after awhile I just lost myself.
511
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,880
I was not a policeman anymore.
512
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,800
- Approximately 57 pounds
of contraband heroin
513
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,080
seized by the police department in 1962
514
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,560
has been stolen.
515
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,640
[suspenseful music]
516
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,640
- [Narrator] The original seizure in 1962
517
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,840
known as the French Connection case,
518
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,440
one of America's biggest
narcotic seizures.
519
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,440
- All the drugs was stolen
from the property clerk
520
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,880
and returned to the street.
521
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Nothing like this ever been done before.
522
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,760
That created an incredible investigation
523
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440
that got into a unit that I worked at.
524
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,040
- The creation of Mr. Jerry's office
525
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,360
provides additional resources to deal
526
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,120
with this problem of corruption.
527
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,680
- No police office and no prosecutor,
528
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,320
no judge, no one involved
in criminal justice
529
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,560
who becomes a defendant
is going to be given
530
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,840
a special privilege.
531
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,960
- The case was bought over to me.
532
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,200
We had a lot of people on it.
533
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Everybody was trying to
find out how it happened,
534
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,760
who did it and why.
535
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,080
- There were two detectives in the SIU
536
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,800
that apparently were involved in that,
537
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160
but there were 70 people in the unit.
538
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,960
- Well, we're not just talking
about the French Connection-
539
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,120
- A lot of other drugs too, I agree.
540
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,040
Listen, all the rationalizations
I've been able to make
541
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,440
over the years for the
things that I did myself
542
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760
and the other things that
the SIU did in general
543
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,240
are kind of wiped away by
that particular incident.
544
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,560
It was his corrupt world.
545
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,960
The whole atmosphere was corrupt.
546
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,280
- They were doing the same thing
547
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,600
that we were putting people in jail for.
548
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840
It was stealing money,
stealing drugs, selling drugs.
549
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,320
How bad can you go?
550
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,960
- [Reporter] Six weeks ago in Harlem
551
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,880
Black Panthers seized
large quantities of heroin
552
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,400
from drug peddlers and
poured it into the street.
553
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,400
They refuse to turn it over to police
554
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,440
because they insisted police
would only re- sell it
555
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,480
to the pushers.
556
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,520
- I would have no sympathy
for someone like me.
557
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,560
I would be very harsh towards someone
558
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,680
who behaved like I did.
559
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,120
- My father prioritized
work over his family.
560
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,280
Being a detective, being a
New York City police officer
561
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,000
was his life, he loved it.
562
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,480
But he wasn't home that often.
563
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,840
And there were times he'd show up
564
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,280
with some of his informants
565
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,760
and the majority of his
informants were heroin addicts.
566
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,840
He'd bring them to the house.
567
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,280
Those are little things
that would stick in my head.
568
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,040
Just these unusual things
that were happening
569
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,000
around my house that weren't normal
570
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,680
day-to-day events for most homes.
571
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,640
He loved being out, he loved being about.
572
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,800
He wasn't loyal to my mother.
573
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,800
He wasn't a good husband
from that standpoint.
574
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,920
His lifestyle was going
the wrong direction.
575
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,160
He realized it.
576
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,000
[soft music]
577
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,960
- I was having a barbecue at my house.
578
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,480
And all my friends were there,
579
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,000
all the cops that I worked
with came to the house.
580
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,880
And my father came.
581
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200
"Look, I met all these guys, your friends,
582
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,520
these cops, they don't look like cops,
583
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760
they don't act like cops,
they don't sound like cops."
584
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,080
He said, "I grew up with gangsters.
585
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,600
They all sound like gangsters.
586
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320
The way they talk, their
view of the world."
587
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,760
They were all wearing diamond rings.
588
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,240
They were all wearing gold bracelets.
589
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,840
They were all wearing necklaces.
590
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,200
[indistinct chatter]
591
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,640
My brother was a heroin addict.
592
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,400
My father said, "It's people
like you and your friends,
593
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,960
are responsible for that."
594
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,440
And I took a good, long
close look at myself.
595
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,960
I was dressing differently,
I was behaving differently,
596
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,680
speaking differently.
597
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120
I said, "This is not me,
I don't want to be this.
598
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,840
I'm a policeman, not a gangster."
599
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,240
- I think it's about time
that something's done to prove
600
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:23,360
that. uh, New York City's police
really aren't the finest.
601
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,520
- All the things that they've been doing,
602
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,560
taking the money, the
bribes and everything else,
603
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,680
- That should be brought out in the open
604
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,320
and let's hope that this
corruption ceases immediately.
605
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,560
- The easy people to point the
finger at are the policemen,
606
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,720
that's too easy.
607
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:47,720
You cannot expose and
end police corruption
608
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:50,400
unless you go after the
real cause of corruption.
609
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,000
- [Reporter] The courtroom
also has its rotten apples.
610
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,840
Prosecutors, lawyers,
even judges and jurors.
611
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600
- Our investigation has certainly shown
612
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,760
that we are not dealing
613
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,880
with a few rotten apples by any means.
614
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,440
It's not the rotten
apples it's the barrel.
615
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,160
- We were investigating cops,
616
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,880
we were investigating judges,
we're investigating lawyers.
617
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,480
It was a watershed of
corruption in New York City.
618
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,480
The corruption went
through the entire system
619
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,280
and had to go through the
entire system to be effective.
620
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,440
[dramatic music]
621
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,240
- Someone got in touch
with me at one point
622
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,200
and asked me if I would get
involved in an investigation
623
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,880
investigating the criminal
justice system in New York,
624
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,320
not the police.
625
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,000
[tape clicking]
626
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,640
Who is this guy?
627
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,480
Where does he come from?
628
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,560
What does he want from me?
629
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,120
And I couldn't explain why I was doing it,
630
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,720
why I was talking to him,
631
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,200
but the whole thing sounds scary.
632
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480
- I had some information about Bob Leuci
633
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,280
because there were
allegations of corruption
634
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,760
against any number of
police officers in the SIU.
635
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,840
[ominous music]
636
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,120
I met with him in my office.
637
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,480
We talked for a couple
of hours in the office.
638
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,560
He did indeed start by acknowledging
639
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,200
three different cases that
he had been involved in
640
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,280
where he had been involved in corruption.
641
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,600
- [Bob] I think I may have
found an important friend.
642
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,600
I wanted to tell him everything.
643
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,960
I want to get it out from
me, I want to get it all out.
644
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,240
All the things that I had been doing
645
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:39,080
and all of the things
that had me really uptight
646
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,560
over the last several years.
647
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,360
And I thought by confession
that it would be over
648
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,800
and I would start new again.
649
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,280
- As it turned out we ended up talking
650
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,360
that first day into the night
651
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,120
until five o'clock in the
morning and it broke off,
652
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:58,960
we got some sleep.
653
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,160
We came back, we did it again.
654
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,280
We did that for four days and four nights.
655
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,760
[clock ticking]
656
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,840
We are still talking
about motivation and why,
657
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680
and fear and anxiety, guilt,
658
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,120
the desire to be on the right side
659
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,480
after having been on the
wrong side for so long.
660
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,800
- I have a feeling that they
maybe had something on him
661
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,040
and that he chose to cooperate
rather than be arrested
662
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,560
and being charged with something.
663
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,880
- I know what he was.
664
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,400
He was liar that got caught,
a thief that got caught
665
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,880
and now he's playing the game.
666
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,920
- No one ever caught me
doing anything wrong.
667
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,800
And I had never saw any good point
668
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,440
of my telling them all
the things I'd done.
669
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,600
I told them I did a couple of minor things
670
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,280
so they would believe what I had to say.
671
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,400
Whereas I had done a lot of things.
672
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,080
[suspenseful music]
673
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,320
- Leuci had seen what was coming
674
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,160
and what he did was he got
out in front of the curve,
675
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,000
as they say.
676
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,760
He began to cooperate before
the investigators got to him.
677
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,440
[upbeat music]
678
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,160
- [Bob] I would show them
where the corruption was
679
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,160
that the police were the least involved.
680
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,920
I never had a lawyer working in narcotics
681
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,520
that didn't offer me a bribe
in one form or another.
682
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,360
I was shown that the entire
court system was corrupt.
683
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,680
- I think my father truly believed
684
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,360
he was the smartest guy in the room,
685
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,400
like he could get involved in
a way where he could dictate
686
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,680
how an investigation was going to go.
687
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,320
- We put word out on the street
688
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,920
that I had access to grand jury testimony.
689
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,160
I don't know if you know what that means.
690
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,120
It's private testimony
691
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,200
that's having to do with investigations.
692
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,880
If we set that out, people
would get in touch with me.
693
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,440
[phone ringing]
694
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,640
A private detective got in touch with me
695
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,960
[muffled conversation]
696
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,600
and he said, "Listen, I have a client
697
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,280
who's a very big lawyer, big time lawyer
698
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,320
who would pay a lot of money to find out
699
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,280
what kind of testimony's
going on in the grand jury
700
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,440
having to do with him."
701
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,960
I said, "I can get that information."
702
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,000
- Eddie Rosner was a
very successful lawyer
703
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,600
in New York City.
704
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,360
He handled a lot of drug cases
705
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,640
and he was suspected of
having fabricated evidence.
706
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,160
They wanted to get him
707
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,400
they were prepared to
do anything to get him.
708
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,760
[dramatic music]
709
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,200
So they set them up through Robert Leuci
710
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080
to commit an additional crime.
711
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,480
[tape scratching]
712
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,000
- Wearing a wire, we met.
713
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,200
We came with the New York
City police detective
714
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,400
who was a friend of his.
715
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,280
And he asked me if I could get access
716
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,040
to this grand jury testimony
717
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,720
having to deal with one of his clients.
718
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,320
And I'll pay you a lot of money.
719
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,040
- They had him on tape
720
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:38,880
and they were determined to put him away
721
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,280
and get him disbarred.
722
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,040
[dramatic music]
723
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,560
- [Reporter] Edmund A Rosner
was convicted yesterday
724
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,600
for bribing a federal official.
725
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,000
- [Reporter] Mr. Rosner
wanted names of witnesses
726
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,960
that would be killed
instead of testifying.
727
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:01,200
- [Reporter] Two NYPD
detectives were also indicted
728
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,120
in the case.
729
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,200
- The double life that he was leading,
730
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,840
I think he actually enjoyed it.
731
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,720
Acting as an SIU agent, arresting people,
732
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,560
at the same time going after bad cops,
733
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,160
going after bad attorneys.
734
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,320
Once he took this role, he liked it.
735
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,840
[soft music]
736
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,800
- Some days I would wear a
wire and some days I wouldn't.
737
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,080
Some days I have a sense
from the last meeting
738
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,880
that they're gonna search me, you know?
739
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,400
So I'm not going to wear a wire.
740
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,320
Or other times I'm not worried about it.
741
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,400
I'm gonna wear a wire.
742
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,160
- Leuci was providing
excellent, undercover work,
743
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400
a whole wealth of important information
744
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,440
so he was a very valuable cooperator.
745
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,720
- He'd be invited to stealing money
746
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:22,760
because he was known as a corrupt cop
747
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,320
and they trusted him.
748
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,920
[beeping]
[static]
749
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,200
- [Bob] My car's over here.
750
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,720
- [Man] Bobby, I'll call your
house in about an hour or two.
751
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:33,400
- [Bob] I'm off until Sunday
night, though, you know?
752
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,160
- [Man] All right.
753
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,760
[static]
- He was a very, very good undercover,
754
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,280
because he could bullshit
his way out of a paper bag.
755
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,600
[laughing]
756
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,080
- What he said was,
757
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,600
"If I fall on any corrupt cops in the way,
758
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,760
I'll get them for you too,
759
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,480
but I will not work against my partners."
760
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,120
[dramatic music]
761
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,040
- The word started to
go out that Bob Leuci
762
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,000
was wearing a wire.
763
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,880
- As rumored for some months,
a prime government witness
764
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,680
is from the ranks of the police department
765
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,440
and he apparently is ready to talk.
766
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,600
- Leuci had entrapped a bail
bondsman and a detective
767
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,920
and they realized that he
had been turned as cops say,
768
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,920
that he was working for the prosecutors
769
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,520
and they were going to kill him.
770
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,320
- They grabbed me, they put a gun on me,
771
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,560
they said they were gonna
take me someplace, search me,
772
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,480
and if they found a wire,
they were gonna kill me.
773
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,600
[music continues]
774
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:49,720
I had a wire on.
775
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,560
And when I sat the transmitter
would sometimes turn
776
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,760
in its casing and the
backside of it was metal.
777
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,480
And had burnt into my skin.
778
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,200
And I was dying to get
my hands on his thing.
779
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,000
And I couldn't shut it
off because they taped it
780
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,960
in such a way that I
couldn't click it on or off.
781
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,480
And the guy who was driving goes,
782
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,360
"What the hell smells in here?
783
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,280
Did you step in dog shit? It's terrible."
784
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,040
It had burned through my skin.
785
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,120
I really thought I'm
paying for what I'm done.
786
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,840
We were in the middle of a Little Italy.
787
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,400
And I saw this guy across the
street who I had investigated.
788
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,920
His name was Alphonse
Indelicato, Sonny Red.
789
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,840
He was a big time mafia guy.
790
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,920
He saw what was going on.
791
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,960
I said, "Look, go ask him
if you could trust me."
792
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,400
And they looked at his mafia
guy who was a major bad guy.
793
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,480
[suspenseful music]
794
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,560
[train horn blaring]
795
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,160
He tells them, "Look, if you
think he's a rat, kill him,
796
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,480
but you better be right,
because he's a friend of mine
797
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,840
and I like him.
798
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,520
So if you're wrong, I'll
come after your ass."
799
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,680
And they were petrified of this,
800
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,520
everyone was afraid of this guy.
801
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,640
So they came back and they said,
802
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,800
"Well, if he likes you,
you gotta be okay."
803
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,080
After that, I became very frightened.
804
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,960
- He didn't know that he
was doing the right thing.
805
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,560
He hoped he was doing the right thing
806
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,640
and he hoped he would be
able to protect his partners.
807
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,360
- They couldn't be closer.
808
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:00,800
Would you turn on your closest friends?
809
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,640
Let me ask you, would you?
810
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,480
Years of friendship and trust
811
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,960
and going to each other's barbecues
812
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,160
and religious, everything,
they shared all of that.
813
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,600
- My world was the police world.
814
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,840
And I work with all these guys
in different situations
815
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,040
and they all trusted
me and took care of me.
816
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,960
It's only when someone
who was part of it all
817
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,880
turns on you, that's when you get hurt
818
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,200
and that's when you get hurt badly.
819
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,600
[soft music]
820
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,240
[people chattering]
[cameras clicking]
821
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:49,040
- I'm confident that my
office can do anything
822
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,080
but that's probably one of my weaknesses.
823
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,240
[chuckling]
824
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,440
- I participated in the
SIU investigation being led
825
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,040
by Rudy Giuliani who was at that time
826
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,440
head of the Corruption Unit.
827
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,600
Rudy and I spent an evening with Bob Leuci
828
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:19,000
and my task at that time
was to debrief Bob Leuci.
829
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,840
[dramatic music]
830
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,520
We spent a lot of time
going over the various teams
831
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,280
that Leuci work with,
832
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,680
which took weeks and weeks and weeks.
833
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,560
- [Bob] I'm not gonna
implicate any of my friends.
834
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,960
Do you want me to destroy myself?
835
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,800
You want me to go and say
836
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,680
I did all of these kinds of things.
837
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,560
I'll never do it.
838
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:45,920
Why should I make cases against my friends
839
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,360
when I can make cases against other people
840
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,840
and accomplish the same thing?
841
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,280
And so two guys go and
both fuck yourselves.
842
00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:58,160
- Giuliani, who later
was mayor of New York
843
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,320
and ran for president
844
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,440
became convinced that Leuci
was covering up something.
845
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,280
- The vast majority
he's been a good,
846
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,600
honest, law abiding,
family loving, decent man
847
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,080
who'd do criminal things once in awhile.
848
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,640
- They began to pressure Leuci
who slowly went to pieces.
849
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:24,600
- [Detective] What do you see reflected
850
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,720
in the mirror in the morning?
851
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:28,080
What are your children going to see in you
852
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,080
in three or four years from now
853
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,680
when they're old enough
to decide what you are?
854
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,920
What does your wife see?
855
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,840
- Some of the people that he dealt with
856
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,960
were smart enough to see
857
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,400
that Bob was basically an insecure person
858
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,720
with an ego, and they played to that.
859
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,640
- And finally, Leuci cracked.
860
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,920
And with that, he began to talk.
861
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,120
[soft music]
862
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,720
- [Reporter] A jury heard
detective Robert Leuci in person
863
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:17,600
and on tape yesterday.
864
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,000
- [Reporter] Tape recorded conversations
865
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,320
between detective Leuci and three men.
866
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,800
- [Giuliani] I can comment
only to the extent
867
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,080
that there are public charges today.
868
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:32,000
- Giuliani wanted to be a
known prosecutor, which he was.
869
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,680
I mean, he put everybody in jail.
870
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,240
[music continues]
871
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,120
- Several were indicted,
several went to jail,
872
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,360
others If they didn't get
indicted or go to jail,
873
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,560
they were fired from
the police department.
874
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,440
- He got himself out of the jackpot
875
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,600
and put everybody else in it.
876
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,400
He sold his soul to save his ass.
877
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,000
- [Man] A private investigator
overheard a conversation
878
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,000
between three or four people
at the casino in Las Vegas.
879
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,240
They discuss the killing of Bob Leuci
880
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,160
and how it was to be done.
881
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,840
[explosion]
882
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,720
I became really, really
paranoid at that point though.
883
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,560
- [Interviewer] Why did
some cops want to kill him?
884
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,960
- Hopefully destroy the cases against them
885
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,240
if he couldn't testify.
886
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,280
Revenge for ruining their lives.
887
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,600
And he betrayed them.
888
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,360
- He had to go into the
Witness Protection Program.
889
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,560
He had to be hidden from the world
890
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,320
[slow music]
891
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,120
His family, too, had to move out.
892
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,600
- My son, who's was a young,
young little kid at the time,
893
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,080
he said that there had been a car
894
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,960
driving around the house where we lived.
895
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,320
You know, had gone around
the block a few times
896
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,760
and it made him nervous.
897
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,880
- I was young, anywhere
from four, six years old.
898
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,320
So, but having those
marshals in the house,
899
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,320
there's something going
on behind the scenes
900
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,520
that I'm not being made aware of.
901
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,080
No one's explaining to
me what's happening.
902
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,200
But there are these men in our house.
903
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,800
Their concern was that if they
didn't go after my father,
904
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,120
they'd go after his family.
905
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,280
- My wife and the children were moved
906
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,640
in the Catskill Mountains
907
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,640
in a little hunting lodge that I had.
908
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,200
[somber music]
909
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,000
I lived out in Governors Island,
910
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,440
which is a military base off Manhattan.
911
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,480
I was put under protection for four years
912
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,600
and I had 18 bodyguards
who were all New York cops.
913
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,120
- Once my husband decided to
do it, he gave me a way out.
914
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,800
He said, "Either you're going
to go through it with me
915
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,160
or you could get out."
916
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,800
- Did you ever think about getting out?
917
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,200
- No, I don't think there
was any question at any time.
918
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,440
- She's trying to make our
lives as normal as possible.
919
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,160
She was the one who had
the brunt of everything
920
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,160
that was going on at
home while he was away,
921
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,280
when he was out testifying,
922
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,840
he was with marshals, he was secluded,
923
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,880
he was in different areas.
924
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,520
She was home with kids
925
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,000
hoping that the house was protected,
926
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,680
hoping the marshals do their
jobs and that's difficult.
927
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,880
Sorry.
928
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,760
- I want my marriage to work out.
929
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,600
- [Interviewer] Is that in jeopardy
930
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,520
because what your husband did?
931
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,480
- Yes, I think so.
932
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,960
[drone sounds]
933
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,560
[people chattering]
934
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,800
- [Reporter] The question
is whether the state could
935
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,360
or should indict Leuci,
936
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,200
now a federal witness who is cooperating.
937
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,280
- Leuci was portraying
himself as having joined
938
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,640
with Scoppetta and the others
to overcome corruption.
939
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,320
But
940
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,440
for all that claim of
doing good and cleaning up,
941
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,080
there was an underlying
filth, if you would,
942
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,400
a corruption that Leuci hid.
943
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,400
[suspenseful music]
944
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,720
- When you're dealing with
an informant like Bob Leuci,
945
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,600
there's a tendency to fall in love with,
946
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,040
to become so favorable to the cooperator,
947
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:23,960
you're happy, you're pleased with
948
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,960
what the cooperators telling you
949
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,760
that you close your eyes
to what should be obvious.
950
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,680
- He was steadfast that he'd
committed four or five acts.
951
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,720
And the truth of the matter is
he committed hundreds of acts
952
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,840
and he made an awful lot of money.
953
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,840
- Bob Leuci committed probably more crimes
954
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,400
than almost any other police officer
955
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,840
in the city of New York.
956
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,080
[pulsating music]
957
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,920
- I represented several of the
958
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,840
Special Investigator Unit detectives
959
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,600
who had been charged.
960
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,040
By that time,
961
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,520
there was a lot known about Leuci
962
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,640
in the sense of what he had done.
963
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,000
- [Reporter] Former narcotics
detective Robert Leuci
964
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,640
admitted yesterday that he had committed
965
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,200
possibly hundreds of criminal acts
966
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,960
in which he previously
had denied taking part of.
967
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,320
- [Reporter] Shaking down drug dealers
968
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,200
for as much as $40,000
and splitting the take.
969
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,640
Bribes of as much as $50,000
970
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,200
reportedly were paid by heroin dealers...
971
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,560
[distorted vocals]
972
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,600
- We had a ton of bad acts,
973
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,120
not only stealing and the
corruption, but the lying.
974
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,320
"I lied before to these
prosecutors and oh yeah, I did.
975
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,360
I lied in the grand jury
976
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,920
but now I'm gonna tell the truth."
977
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,880
Doesn't make any sense.
978
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,080
He looked like a fool
to be honest with you.
979
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,080
- Never got prosecuted, no.
980
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,400
I was lucky to have friends.
981
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,840
I had some really amazing
people on my side.
982
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,680
- Bob Leuci
983
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,520
turned around on the essential problem,
984
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,160
the corruption that existed
in narcotics enforcement
985
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,880
without having been caught,
986
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,600
without having been
pushed up against the wall
987
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,760
and forced to turn around.
988
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,840
He did it because something
was happening inside of him
989
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,560
that bothered him about it,
and that's a great credit.
990
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,960
- Giuliani said, "You can't jail this man,
991
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,120
not after what he has given the public
992
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,400
and what he's been through."
993
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,000
- I never ever dreamt it would ever turn
994
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,440
on the police the way it did.
995
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,720
And I guess they blame
me for initiating it all.
996
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:54,680
Starting it all.
997
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,720
- [Carl] I trusted him-
998
00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:01,320
- [Reporter] Carl Aguilas
today has a secret identity.
999
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,160
He was one of the cops trapped by Leuci.
1000
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,680
- He invited me over to his house one day
1001
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,040
and the kitchen would be wired.
1002
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,720
I'd be holding his baby on my lap.
1003
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:12,440
And there was a real friend,
1004
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,400
supposedly a real friendly
type buddy, buddy situation.
1005
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,280
However, I was being recorded.
1006
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,640
We were like brothers, I trusted him.
1007
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,560
[pounding]
1008
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,960
- [Bob] I'll never hurt Mandato,
1009
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,640
I'll never hurt Wolff,
I'll never hurt Cody.
1010
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,240
I'm not gonna do it,
those are my partners.
1011
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,520
I'm not gonna do it.
1012
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,240
[pulsating music]
1013
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,320
- Cody was supposed to testify.
1014
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,080
[ominous music]
1015
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,920
The night before he testified
1016
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,200
he was to be babysat by two agents.
1017
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,600
I asked him to stay with him
through the night, they didn't.
1018
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,080
The next day Cody went out,
1019
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,960
sat down at Prospect Park and
blew his head off with pistol.
1020
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,960
[sirens wailing]
1021
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,280
Bob heard that and he took
out a bottle of Valium five
1022
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,240
and swallowed it and ran out the office,
1023
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,760
disappeared for a few days.
1024
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,800
[somber music]
1025
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,200
- [Bob] David Cody, he was one of a kind.
1026
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,240
Everything he did centered around
1027
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,600
the New York City Police Department.
1028
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,320
Retirement parties, Christmas parties,
1029
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,280
during the summer watching the Yankees.
1030
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,680
I spoke to him.
1031
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,840
That the only thing to do was to come in
1032
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,040
and tell the whole story
1033
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,120
and talk about the things not only he did,
1034
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,920
but things that we all did together.
1035
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,040
I thought that was the only sane way out
1036
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,080
for us at that point.
1037
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,840
But it was just too
much for Dave to handle,
1038
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,680
that's for sure.
1039
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,880
[somber music]
1040
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,120
- He could move past a
lot of things in his life.
1041
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,840
He could never move past that.
1042
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,680
It was so hard for him.
1043
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,160
- [Bob] There are certain things
1044
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,560
you can't say I'm sorry for.
1045
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,440
You're way, way past the I'm sorry part.
1046
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,040
[birds cawing]
1047
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,440
[newsreel music]
1048
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,760
- A month ago Bob Leuci
retired after serving 20 years
1049
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,680
on the New York City Police Force
1050
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,120
and he's with us here this morning.
1051
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,080
One thing that you got out of all this.
1052
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,680
- Well, one of the major
thing that I got out of it
1053
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,000
was an opportunity to change my life
1054
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,160
you know, and to live a new life.
1055
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,400
- Now, a book has been written
about the special agony
1056
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,760
of his life as a cop and as a citizen,
1057
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,880
it is called "Prince of the City."
1058
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,680
It was written by Robert Daley,
1059
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,440
former deputy police commissioner
here in New York City.
1060
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,840
- I didn't know about detective Leuci
1061
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,960
and I didn't want to meet him.
1062
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,960
To me, he was just a corrupt cop.
1063
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,400
I had no use for corrupt cops.
1064
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,480
Then he called me up sometime later
1065
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,560
and begged me to do his life
story, to listen to him.
1066
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,640
Leuci practically lived at our house.
1067
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,000
He came every morning.
1068
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,640
I wanted the title to be
the cop who knew too much
1069
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,240
and I got shot down.
1070
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,240
The movie people said, "No,
no, Prince of the City."
1071
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,880
- [Reporter] Corruption within the NYPD
1072
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,120
will become the subject
1073
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,800
of a major Hollywood movie next year.
[actors screeching]
1074
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,360
Orion Pictures has just purchased
1075
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,200
"Prince of the City" by Robert Daley.
1076
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,600
- Nobody cares about me,
but my partner. Fuck you!
1077
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,320
- When I was 29 years
old, I played Bob Leuci
1078
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,880
and consequently I became a good friend
1079
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,280
of Bob's over the years.
1080
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,120
- At different times, he captured me 100%
1081
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,880
and other times I think it was Treat.
[Treat laughs]
1082
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,440
And he's an actor
1083
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,520
and, uh, he's a wonderful performer.
1084
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,800
[soft music]
1085
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,440
- There are no heroes.
There are no villains.
1086
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,280
Everybody was trying to do
what they thought was best.
1087
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,000
And that kind of complexity is
endlessly interesting to me.
1088
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,960
- Sidney said one of the
reasons that he hired me
1089
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,600
was I didn't really care
what people thought of me.
1090
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,720
I wouldn't worry about being likable
1091
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,720
because ultimately the character
becomes quite unlikeable.
1092
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,880
[music intensifies]
1093
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,760
- He embraced the fame.
1094
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,160
Another part of his mind took over
1095
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,720
and he thought of himself as a celebrity.
1096
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:34,560
- I've been talking to someone recently
1097
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,600
about writing a screenplay about
1098
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,160
"The Return of Superfly" for example.
1099
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,200
And it was a thought-
1100
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,000
- Bob really has changed.
1101
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,960
I shouldn't say for the worse,
1102
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,120
but he isn't the man I
married, not by any means.
1103
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,080
- He didn't feel like his
wife fit into the crowd
1104
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,280
that he was now a part of.
1105
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,240
You know...
1106
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,520
dinner parties where
Sean Connery was there
1107
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,440
or going out with Rudy
Giuliani and his girlfriend.
1108
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,000
- The film and the book has put
as much stress on the family
1109
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,560
and my marriage as anything
else that I've experienced.
1110
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,240
- You're asking me about that movie.
1111
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,760
- [Interviewer] Yeah.
1112
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,080
- "Prince of the City."
- Yeah.
1113
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:28,920
- It sucked.
1114
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,920
[soft music]
1115
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,600
- [Reporter] The movie has
also provoked controversy.
1116
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,880
Some law enforcement
officials say the film
1117
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,080
falsely glamorizes Mr. Leuci
1118
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,360
from the now defunct
Special Investigations Unit.
1119
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,760
- Makes me want to throw up
1120
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,040
when I see them idolize him
and say he was the hero.
1121
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,720
Don't hold this guy up as a living example
1122
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,280
of what you should do if
you get your ass in a jam,
1123
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,720
because that's not the right thing to do.
1124
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,040
Don't get your ass in a jam.
1125
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:00,840
Do it right to begin with.
1126
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,200
- I don't see how anybody could stretch it
1127
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,440
to make them a hero.
1128
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,800
He was a weakling and a coward
1129
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,360
that thought to save himself
above everybody else.
1130
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,200
- You making any money on the movie?
1131
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,840
- Movie, hopefully will make money.
1132
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,800
- He was a celebrity, but
he was nothing but a crook.
1133
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,640
- Absolutely.
1134
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,320
- I think he enjoyed being a celebrity.
1135
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,040
I think he liked being
the center of attention.
1136
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,560
And I think that's one of the things
1137
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:36,880
that the hatred for Bob was,
1138
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,560
that somehow he became the star,
1139
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,200
that he got famous as result of this,
1140
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,600
that he made money off of this.
1141
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,520
- He's not enjoying this.
1142
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,960
He's not enjoying this fame.
1143
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,680
He's not enjoying this hero reputation
1144
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,480
because he knows it's just not true.
1145
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,560
- His career was ruined.
1146
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,360
And his name will go down ever in history
1147
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,800
as being a police rat.
1148
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:19,640
[Bob speaking indistinctly]
1149
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,120
- [Kathy] Just the mail today.
1150
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,320
- I'll carry that.
1151
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,520
- I just want to see
how full this is, okay?
1152
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,560
- Yeah.
1153
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:30,880
- No, I'm gonna take the other tank.
1154
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:31,760
This one's almost empty.
1155
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,000
- I hardly use it all.
1156
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,640
- [Kathy] Honey, it's almost empty.
1157
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,200
It doesn't make any difference
how much you used it.
1158
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,720
- [Bob] I have the other
thing, the nebulizer.
1159
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,200
- [Kathy] Uh-huh.
1160
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,320
- I'll just take that, that's enough.
1161
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,920
- Are you sure?
- Yeah, yeah.
1162
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,400
- He really thought he was going to be
1163
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,040
this great American hero.
1164
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,080
Instead, he became one
of the most hated men
1165
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,200
in the police department.
1166
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,440
You talk to people in the
police department now,
1167
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,400
they know his name and
they call him a rat.
1168
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,840
I'm not sure that was a good trade off.
1169
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,560
[somber music]
1170
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,520
[birds chirping]
1171
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,360
He and his first wife divorced.
1172
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,120
So he moved up to Rhode Island.
1173
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,520
[soft music]
1174
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,200
- I can't walk too far,
you know, it's crazy.
1175
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,440
- He was star of all the
dinner parties up here
1176
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,440
because they had this
celebrity in their midst.
1177
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,400
- You can't believe everything you read.
1178
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,720
My last name is Leuci, L-E-U-C-I, look it up.
1179
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,440
If you get a chance, Google me.
1180
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,880
You may not be a fan, but you'll see.
1181
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,040
[man laughing]
1182
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,640
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice meeting you, take care.
1183
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,440
- You've gone from being hated
in one part of the country
1184
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,720
to another part of the country
1185
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,760
where everyone thinks this is great.
1186
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,680
[seagulls chirping]
1187
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:33,240
[cars honking]
[sirens wailing]
1188
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,960
[heavy breathing]
1189
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,760
[somber music]
1190
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,880
- Well, a former New York detective
1191
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,600
who famously exposed
corruption in the NYPD
1192
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,840
in the 1970s has died.
1193
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,200
Robert Leuci put his life on
the line to blow the whistle
1194
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,320
on a narcotics unit
that was accepting cash
1195
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,120
and drugs from dealers.
1196
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,440
His service was honored in the
movie "Prince of the City."
1197
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,280
He emerged from Witness Protection...
1198
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,720
- If you ask 100 people,
1199
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,040
how are you going to
remember Bob in one word?
1200
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,000
You're going to get 100 different words.
1201
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,520
[somber music]
1202
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,360
The people that loved him the most
1203
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,960
were the ones who were
not blind to his faults.
1204
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,400
And he had plenty like everyone.
1205
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,800
- I can't imagine my father
will ever be seen as the hero.
1206
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,960
I mean, what he did was heroic.
1207
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,120
I think, he was directly responsible
1208
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,760
for changing the culture
1209
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,360
of the New York City Police Department.
1210
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,520
[soft music]
1211
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,560
- Did it make any real difference, Sylvia,
1212
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,320
after all the agony?
1213
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,160
- You know what the top
1214
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,600
US drug enforcement official told me?
1215
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,760
He said that his only
regret was that Bob Leuci
1216
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,080
is no longer in law enforcement.
1217
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,760
And that it's because of him
1218
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,840
that cops no longer routinely
steal and deal drugs.
1219
01:09:24,440 --> 01:09:26,080
- [Reporter] As a result
of the Leuci case,
1220
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,840
the police department and
the state in the last decade
1221
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,040
have adopted new tactics to discourage
1222
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,520
and uproot corruption in New York City.
1223
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,200
- [Officer] That cancer that
almost killed our department
1224
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,960
some years ago will
never ever happen again.
1225
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,040
[audience cheering]
1226
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,120
- The criminal justice
system cleaned itself up
1227
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,840
but the publicity that
came out of those cases
1228
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,240
put the fear of God into a lot of people.
1229
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,840
[audience applauding]
1230
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,000
- I think the exposure
had a dramatic effect
1231
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:00,560
on public understanding
of police corruption.
1232
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,760
- This man went a long
way toward cleaning up
1233
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:03,880
something that was very rotten
1234
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,440
in the New York City Police Department.
1235
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:06,840
- [Interviewer] Thank
you very much, Mr. Leuci,
1236
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,120
thank you for all the contributions
1237
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,760
you've done to the police system.
1238
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,920
- It did clean it up,
but you know something?
1239
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,920
It's a cyclical thing.
1240
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:18,920
You think, oh, it's all cleaned up.
1241
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,360
Four more years later, it happens again.
1242
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,440
And it happens again.
1243
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,120
[dramatic music]
1244
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,400
- [Reporter] The corrupt
cups were called good cups.
1245
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,840
- 'Cause it was the blue wall of silence.
1246
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,520
Cops don't tell on cops.
1247
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,400
- [Reporter] Right now, 10
out of 75 police precincts
1248
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,200
are being investigated for corruption.
1249
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,640
- [Woman] 11 murders committed by
1250
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,480
and for their mob benefactors.
1251
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:47,280
- We are here today, again,
1252
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,360
to announce public corruption charges,
1253
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,920
this time at some of the highest
and most sensitive levels
1254
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,840
of the New York City Police Department.
1255
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,800
[suspenseful music]
1256
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,720
- I see cases just like
the Robert Leuci case
1257
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,960
every day today.
1258
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,800
I see them today when police
kill innocent suspects
1259
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,240
and the police will cover for themselves
1260
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,240
and prosecutors cover for the police.
1261
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:21,040
It's important that we create a culture
1262
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,480
whereby whistle blowers
within the police department
1263
01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:25,400
are praised rather than condemned.
1264
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,720
- It's been a while since I got wired up.
1265
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,920
- [Interviewer] Leuci always
used to joke about that.
1266
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,440
- Yeah, well, he would know.
1267
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:44,800
- Putting on the wire again.
- He would know.
1268
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,200
I hope there's a hell and he's in it.
1269
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,720
[soft guitar music]
1270
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,640
- [Bob] Someone once said
that there are some teardrops
1271
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,640
that just never dry.
1272
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,880
And I don't think that
time heals all wounds.
1273
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:07,960
I wish it did.
1274
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,200
♪ Pool Hall, quarter a ball ♪
1275
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,240
♪ Pick your stick and
hang it on the wall ♪
1276
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,280
♪ Aim slow, shoot it low ♪
1277
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,040
♪ Fall for it all and you'll never know ♪
1278
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,480
♪ There a black eight,
won't roll straight ♪
1279
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:28,360
♪ Scratch every match
and you're easy bait ♪
1280
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,960
♪ For a cue shark, shootin' his mark ♪
1281
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♪ To a pay day give away in the dark ♪
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♪ Lucy Ann your man's been out rambling ♪
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♪ What will he bringing home to you ♪
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♪ On the winds that sing of
whiskey, wine and gambling ♪
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[soft music]
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[somber piano music]
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