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If you're from Fall River,
you've probably done some time.

That's like high school
reunion for, you go to jail,

"Hey, I haven't seen you." Yeah,
I've been over here, you know,

playing some cards for
a while, you know?"

Here in Fall River, we're
very proud of our achievements.

And every year, right
here on the waterfront,

we bring together hundreds
of volunteers to entertain

hundreds of thousands
of visitors.

Used to be
a pretty quiet town.

Until, uh, a few years ago.

The city of Fall
River used to be known as the town

of mills, hills, and pork pies.

It's also the spot where somebody gave
Lizzie Borden's parents 41 whacks or so.

I didn't know about all
this stuff that happened here.

Everybody thinks
of Lizzie Borden.

That's a hundred years ago.

Lizzie Borden has nothing on
the Fall River cult murders.

Police making the
unsettling discovery in a wooded area.

- They had a series of murders

during a satanic
ritual in the woods.

If I had a chance to say,
"Would you want a investigation

- "like that again?"
- Police take away boxes

full of bones and
satanic paraphernalia.

Three homicides,
connected. Satanic cults.

Do you wish to
sell your soul to Satan?

I'd say, are you crazy?

It destroyed my life. I got
divorced in the process,

in the middle of
it. It consumed me.

They could
have just killed her.

But they tortured her.

It has also
been revealed that her murder

was a ritualistic killing
tied to a satanic cult

that exists among prostitutes
and pimps in Fall River.

These ritualistic, barbaric
slayings where these poor women,

their souls were
offered to the devil.

Satan is the pioneer.

The inventor.

These headlines,
"Satan cult killings,".

"Fall River satanic
cult," "Women found dead,"

liken people were terrified.

My faith in
God grew stronger.

I prayed a lot.

It was all evil.

Without this so-called evil,
there could be no change.

I think
justice was served.

They
arrested him. I said,

"What do you mean,
they arrested him?"

They arrested him for murder.

I said, "You people
are out of your mind!"

Grand
jury murder indictments

were handed down
today for the death

of 20-year-old Karen Marsden.

Justice wasn't done because the
story that's out there is a lie.

It just doesn't... It
just doesn't make sense.

This injustice will haunt me.

There's a lot of questions,

and they're probably all
going to remain unanswered.

Nobody knows. I guess everybody
who's watching it's gonna know.

I don't know. I never
been on camera before, so

So when I was probably about,
I don't know, five or six,

I told my mother that, um...

I had saw these people
killing... killing a girl.

I was a detective in
the major crimes division.

All of those homicides, probably
40 that I was involved with,

the details of every one
of those crime scenes,

all of those bodies,
uh, stick out to me.

People will come to me and say,
"Oh, would you talk to my son?

He wants to be a
police officer."

You don't want
him to talk to me.

It's the worst job in the world!
It's the worst job in the world!

My beeper went off at
close to 6am in the morning.

And they told me to go to
Dimon Vocational High School.

When I arrived, we had
just the EMTs there

and, uh, uniform division that's
standing by to secure the crime scene.

Went under the bleachers
where we saw the naked body.

I... I can...

If you could see... I can
see exactly how that looks.

She was facedown.

She was just about
completely nude.

There was a lot of evidence
at this murder scene.

I'm just gonna tell
you what the facts are.

This girl had a baseball
bat shoved inside of her.

She was tied up
with fishing wire.

Her head was crushed with rocks.

She had been smashed in
the face with a gigantic rock,

which we did transport to
the FBI lab in Washington.

They had some sort of a system down
there where they could lift fingerprints,

but we were unable to get
any prints off that rock.

At that point, we didn't even
have an idea of who the victim was.

Our intent was to
get her identified.

There were a lot of
deaths in Fall River,

but there weren't that many out-and-out,
blatant murders as this was.

I'll never forget that autopsy.

It was in the basement
of St. Anne's Hospital.

There was a basement
window that opened,

and they had that open for
ventilation purposes, obviously.

But there was a young child at the
window watching the autopsy take place,

which was so bizarre.

And I yelled, "Hey!
Get out of there!"

They had a
composite drawing of her.

And that was circulated.

And that's how she was
initially identified.

We met a friend of hers, who
ended up coming to the city

who made the positive
identification.

Doreen Levesque, who
was originally from New Bedford,

was a transient and she was homeless
and she did have her problems

with her family and she was
on drugs and vulnerable.

Between 1960 and 1973,
drug addiction rates among juvenile women

increased six times
more than those of men.

Female addicts often turn to
prostitution to support their habit.

As time went on,
that's when it was determined

that she was prostituting
in Fall River.

That's a sad story.
The only reason why Doreen

didn't work the streets in New Bedford
was she didn't want people to see her.

I spoke
with her father.

She was young, she
was only 17 years old.

When you hear about the
case, you seem to assume

that these are women that are
much older than they really are.

The prostitute's
number one enemy is not the law,

but old age.

Doreen at age 17, she
should be in high school,

not working the streets.

And the investigation sort
of went in that direction.

There's a lot of drugs and drinking
and prostitution and stuff going on there,

at that period of time, the
late '70s, into the early '80s.

Fall River,
it was a rough place.

There were so many girls working the
streets of Fall River at that time,

there were traffic jams on
Friday and Saturday evenings.

There'd be 30 or 40
women working the street.

There was a number of bars
in that four-block area

where the prostitutes
would frequent.

Pier 14, Charlie's was
a block further east.

There
were tough places.

The only people who went in that
area were people looking for girls

or involved in the business.

There's a very real
linkage between these

adult entertainment
areas and crime.

They were importing a lot
of prostitutes at the time

from, like, Providence
and the surrounding areas

and they were working the
streets in Fall River.

You provide a concentration of
activity that is especially attractive

to people who want to use sex as a
way of committing ordinary crimes.

Sadly, it was a block and a
half from the police station.

Why is
prostitution so open here?

I moved down to
southeastern Massachusetts.

That's when I first
heard about this case.

I don't understand how
this type of prostitution

continued here in this city, especially
so close to the police station.

I don't know if
someone was paid off,

I don't know if someone was
paid off to look the other way.

There's a lot of
conspiracy theories.

These girls were
smarter than I ever was.

They were beautiful. I want
them to remember all these girls

because they were so young,

and, um, they screwed up.

And they got involved
with the wrong people,

and, um, they
didn't deserve this.

Doreen Levesque, I
didn't know anything except that

she was a prostitute
that got killed.

As soon as we
learned who Doreen was,

is when we worked
all of that area.

We talked to people then who had
been warned to stay off the street.

Anybody who you could talk
to, you talked to about it.

We initially thought it
could have been a john.

There were many people who were
dangerous, and we ran into them often.

Willie Smith, he was
allowing Doreen Levesque

to use his apartment,

for her prostitution operations.

I only talked to
Willie Smith one time,

and he denied any
knowledge of anything.

We came across Andy Maltais.

He got the services
of the prostitutes.

We brought him down to the
district attorney's office

with two of the Fall
River detectives.

He initially was a suspect.

We interviewed him
numerous times,

and it turned out
he was not involved.

Most of the young
ladies who worked the street

had someone they
were working for.

Their business managers,
known more accurately as pimps,

will arrange for their
bail and early release.

Doreen, she
had come to Fall River.

That's apparently when
she ran into Carl Drew.

We would speak to
people who would tell us

that Satan controls the street.

And who is Satan?

Hello, this is
a prepaid collect call from...

- It was Carl Drew.
- An inmate at Massachusetts Department of Corrections.

Hello.

Could you move the
glasses for me?

Take the microphone and just
drop this down the shirt for me.

Just go all the way
through for me. Thank you.

- Good.

- Good?
- Yeah. Yeah.

Carl always
maintained his cool.

If he was stoned,
you couldn't tell.

- Oh...

Kind of anxious to get this
thing going. Get it out there.

It's been a long time.

- Yeah.
- Yeah, it's going on 41 years of this stuff.

Carl Drew was known as
someone who was on the street daily.

Was a pimp.

I'm originally
from New Hampshire.

I lived with an abusive
father that was an alcoholic

and all that stuff. I
would get beatings, I mean,

to the point where I'd be knocked
out, you know what I mean?

Plenty of times I've woken up
with a handkerchief over my nose

because he just come right
on and suckerpunched me.

Carl's father would hang him
with a rope into a well as a punishment.

Would send him into the water

to get dead animals
out of a well.

I turned about 14 years old,

and I was getting a
beating from my father,

and I decided enough was enough. I
got up and knocked him on his ass.

And I left and I been living on the
streets from the... from the age of 14.

Carl Drew
was a street thug.

He was violent, he was
cruel, he was mean.

So I end up holding up one
convenience store in New Bedford.

And I end up going to trial and I
end up getting six years and a day.

So when I got out of prison on
that, I had to stay in Fall River

because I was on parole.

He was known to
be a very violent person.

Had a history of control of the
prostitutes who worked the street.

They were afraid of him.

For some reason, I had
a bad reputation out there

that people knew not to... not to
mess with anything that was mine.

What I knew of the
whole situation,

he drugged those girls up.

So they didn't know whether
they were coming or going.

They'd pay me like $200
a week to protect them,

to keep them safe on the street.

Oh, he wasn't protecting
them. He was using them.

If he was protecting them, he wouldn't be
sending them out on the street to make money.

Young runaway girls
in particular become prey for pimps

who make promises of
love and protection.

He did not care about
them, he didn't love them.

Uh, protection, no.

Carl Drew,
did he know me? No.

Did I know who he was? Yes.

He liked to manhandle the girls.

And he wasn't
afraid to use force

to make them do what he wanted.

A lot of the cops back
then, they just didn't care.

They knew this shit was going
on and they allowed it to go on.

It was so blatantly out
there. You know what I mean?

Unless the cops had an attitude towards
somebody, they didn't bother them.

- You know what I mean?
- Judges often show reluctance

to imprison a prostitute since prisons
don't seem to rehabilitate people,

but make them more
hardened criminals instead.

My friend Diana,
when she was doing it,

there was a cop who actually
would pick her up for service,

and not arrest her.

All of our resources
were going to, you know,

solve the homicides.

Carl, unless he was part
of that investigation,

which he ended up being, he
was, uh, sort of ignored.

There was a lot of fear
on the streets of Carl.

You know, the retribution
that was going to be involved

if, uh, anybody spoke or talked.

We knew all the players,

but we could put
nothing together

that early in the investigation.

Robin's name
popped up just about daily.

The bottom line
is that Carl was a pimp

and Robin Murphy, she was
trying to be a pimp at this time

in the same area as Carl.

At that time,
Carl Drew and Robin

controlled much of that trade,

and they forbade
others from doing that.

They were working together

but they hated each other.

I knew
Robin very well.

I liked her. We had
fun. She was a hot shit.

She was crazy.

And I knew she was not somebody
you wanted on your bad side.

Robin had a
very rough upbringing.

It's my understanding there was
allegations of sexual assault.

A very troubled,
troubled background.

She grew up very
quickly over the years,

so violence really
was part of her life.

What made Robin Robin?

Robin didn't care about herself because
she had parents that didn't care about her.

Robin didn't seem to have
any kind of family situation.

Her mother, I think
she was a bar maid.

She was never there.

Her father... didn't
give two shits about her.

My mother didn't give
two shits about me.

Um...

Robin was only 17
years old at the time,

but a very violent person.

I watched her have a fistfight
with a guy in front of Charlie's.

This guy was 25.

This guy ran from her.

And she chased him
down the avenue,

right in the middle of the road,
and threw a full beer bottle.

Trying to hit him in the head.

That's Robin.

So I was sitting
in an unmarked vehicle.

You would think she was
a middleweight fighter.

She was pretty vicious.

Everybody
who knew her said

in high school the men
were afraid of her.

She just had like a, you know, what
do you call it, retard strength?

She just had like,
you know what I mean?

Like, you seem like something,
when she was really mad,

she had a rage that you could probably
break a pool stick over her head,

and she'd still
keep coming at you.

Robin could eat pizza and
kill you right after that.

Not bother her at all.

It wouldn't bother her at all.

We never got along from the... from
the first moment that we talked.

You know what I mean?
When you talked to her,

you knew you didn't wanna have anything
to do with her because of her attitude,

her disposition.

That's what she wanted.

She wanted control.

She didn't wanna
be a prostitute.

She was definitely
smarter than Carl Drew.

Probably much smarter
than a lot of the people

she was dealing with. Maybe
even us, I don't know.

She hated Carl.

Carl was the only one in her way of
controlling the street completely.

At that age, at 17 years old,
controlling the entire street.

Doreen had been warned
by both Carl and Robin,

they wanted that control
of the sex dollars,

and they warned her to
stay off the streets.

She was actually
working two blocks away

from where they gathered.

But she was still working the street,
and she was still taking johns,

and she was getting a lot more because
she was a very pretty young lady.

There's a strange
dynamic there of Robin and Carl,

and Karen Marsden was caught
in the middle of all of this.

Karen and I were best
friends. We did everything together.

Karen was a good kid
with a kind heart.

If you were her friend,
you were her friend

and she was gonna be down
for you no matter what.

Her mother had gone to
jail. I'm not sure why.

I don't know what
happened to her father.

I have no idea.

Karen Marsden
was probably...

That's the saddest case.

These are just shattered lives.

And they're all
tied to Carl Drew.

Karen probably worked the streets
for me... probably about a year.

She was the kind of person
that you wouldn't think

that she would work on the
streets and all that stuff.

But we got together, and I explained
to her what the routine was.

And I let her know that it's not
a game out there on the street.

I was pretty mad with Karen. I said,
what are you doing with this guy?

- You know...
- Yeah.

She told me that she
was prostituting and...

I kicked a pole,
sprained my right ankle.

Um, I was pretty upset with her.

So she insisted that she
wanted to work the streets.

And so they turn
to the streets to escape the hurt,

but find themselves
becoming victims once again,

returning to relationships
with adults who exploit them.

I knew Karen from my childhood.
We went to church together.

I believe people take two paths in
life and she went on the dark path

instead of seeing the
light, and unfortunately,

I believe she tried to come
back and didn't have the help.

They continue
to allow themselves to be used

because they have come
to expect nothing more,

and that is why it is so
difficult to reach them.

I lived in her
apartment with her for a while.

And I helped her with her son.

Her son was a
child. Two years old.

His name was Jay.
He's since died.

Karen loved her
son more than life.

She loved that boy more than she
loved anything in this world.

Well, I'm the father
to Karen Marsden's son.

- Okay.
- JJ.

- What's JJ's full name?
- Joseph John Alves.

Karen was a virgin
when I met her.

She wasn't no prostitute
like everybody says.

She used to hang down there
because she knew some of the girls

and that's how I met her. But
she was a virgin when I met her.

Okay.

Karen, 90 percent of the time

I saw her, she was
stoned and drunk.

After the months
progressed, I ended up seeing Karen

hanging out with Robin.

They were like two peas in
a pod and all that stuff.

Robin Murphy came out
at a young age as a lesbian.

Karen was
considered Robin's lover.

See, I don't wanna get into the
Robin thing. I really don't.

See, we all... we grew up in the
same neighborhood, pretty much.

They were friends. Karen
didn't see her like I saw her.

Karen had a child.

She had relationships with men,

but she also had
relationships with Robin.

There was a very
strong emotional tie

or some type of power
that Robin had over Karen.

She felt comfortable
with her somehow,

that Robin was going
to protect her.

Particularly on the street.

I did everything I could
to get Karen to speak with us.

Karen was the weak link.
Karen wasn't right mentally.

She was emotionally distraught.

And stayed that same way, um,

throughout all of
that period of time.

We thought she was
emotionally damaged

as a result of what
happened that evening

or early morning hours
under the bleachers.

- That's Karen telling you this?
- Karen was telling me that, yes.

She was present when...
We're talking about...

Do you know the girl that was
found behind the bleachers?

- You know her name?
- That was Doreen Levesque.

Levesque, right.

She says, "Come out with me right now.
I want to take you to the diamond bleachers.

There's a girl dead. Carl
smashed her head in with rocks."

And she was crying and she
had holy water in her pocket.

She was in fear of her life.

Um, she said that someone
was gonna kill her.

"They tied the girl up behind the bleachers
and smashed her head in with a rock,

and Carl laughed about it."

She implied that, "That
guy Carl that you met,

he's gonna kill me. I seen
too much. I know too much."

You didn't go up
there to see the body?

I didn't go up there
and see it, no way.

Okay. Now, Karen
didn't come to the police

- for what reason?
- She was scared.

Every time that I saw her, and I
saw her at least four or five times weekly,

she was fearful of even
looking in my direction.

Or in the direction of the other
investigators who were present.

Karen, she was
always totally petrified.

Carl manipulated her.

Carl placed her in fear.

Carl had her in fear every
day he was gonna kill her.

They had threatened to party
with her son if she tried to leave.

And she said, "You
know what I mean.

They're gonna drug him all up."

And I said...

"Well, then you... You
can't let people own you."

"You gotta go... You've
gotta go tell somebody."

"You're not an animal. People don't
have... people don't own you."

"And you can't let
them think they do."

It was gonna be
arranged to have Karen

meet us at a house on
County Street in Fall River

where Carol Fletcher's
sister was staying.

Carol Fletcher was someone who
worked the street, well known to us.

We agreed to go there.

When Karen came in
that door and saw me

she started to scream.

Karen was really
upset with Carl Drew.

She called him the devil.

When I interviewed Karen,
Karen said, you know,

"Satan knows who
I'm talking to."

We started hearing "Satan."

You know, cult. It was
unusual for Fall River.

As an investigator, I
hadn't heard the word, uh,

"cult" in this community.

Detective Alan
Alves of the Freetown Police

is an expert on satanic cults.

This is definitely, you know,
indications of Satanism.

I knew Alan Silvia.

We worked together on a lot
of cases throughout the years.

Because Freetown's
a nice, quiet town,

all our crime came from people
in Fall River or New Bedford.

So I worked with a lot of
the detectives from the area.

Karen and other women that we talked to
who were involved with Carl Drew and Robin

often said how Carl would take
them to the Freetown State Forest,

where they would worship Satan.

Satan is the essence of
that which dwells within myself.

- Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
- No. No.

Irrevocably not.

Oh, during a ritual? Well,
the power starts building up.

I guess "power" sounds
like a real corny word,

but it's an adrenaline energy
that starts building up in you.

Don't ask me just why.

I suppose it's... you should
call it satanic ecstasy.

I've been involved in
investigating satanic crime

for two decades in the
Freetown State Forest.

In the Freetown State Forest, they
were always finding upside-down crosses

and there was always talk of
satanic cult activity out there.

Alves was always chasing
rumors out there.

The detective admits devil
worship is a difficult crime to prosecute.

What they do,
they have a pentagram.

Satan would come out
of the center of it.

We find animals with absolutely
no blood in them at all.

They would drain the
blood right out of them.

It would be opposite
of the Catholic church,

and they would drink blood
instead of wine and so forth.

And usually with a high
priestess of the cult,

uh, it'd be mixed with either
his urine or with his semen.

So that left me out of
being undercover over there.

Prior to that, of course,
the Charles Manson case

really riveted the country.

Charlie, can
we get a picture?

The whole
helter skelter,

the horror of what was
going on in California.

Susan, would you answer
a couple of questions for us?

So when anyone talked about Satanism,
that's immediately what you thought of.

It was happening
across the country.

Alpine police
say five young Alpine men

are accused of conducting
satanic rituals.

Authorities say
Satanism is definitely alive in Tucson.

At midnight on Saturday
night, Satan worshippers don their regalia

and gather in groups of 13.

They knew what they
were doing was wrong

by molesting kids or serial
rapists or serial murder.

All prayers,
chants, and offerings are directed

to the dark power
of the king of hell.

Drinking blood is
one of the black magic traditions

that some satanic covens
or groups practice.

But then, all of a sudden,
here comes a religion

that says rape is okay,

killing's okay, all
that stuff is okay.

It's their constitutional right to
practice any religion they want.

Uh, our concern is in the
exercise of that religion,

that A, they're not
committing any crimes,

and B, they're not infringing
upon the rights of other people.

- Hail Satan.
- Hail Satan.

There was
a fear of Satan,

but it was more the fear of
Satanism and evil people.

It's not
illegal to be a Satanist,

and not all Satanists engage
in illegal activities.

But many do. Some of the
illegal activity includes

trespassing, cruelty to
animals, kidnapping, rape,

or sexual molestation of adults
and children, and murder.

I never saw a real live ritual.

Saw the aftermath of it. And
I was advised of what went on

with some of the people
that were in a cult.

I don't know who the
true believers were,

but they definitely used that
to keep the other girls in line,

who ended up, you know, believing that
there was an omnipresence involved

that no matter what they did,
they couldn't get away with it.

Carl Drew, he allegedly called
himself the son of Satan.

And he kind of looked the part.
He had those wild, crazy eyes,

and the long, stringy hair,
and he had this, you know,

horde of prostitutes that he controlled
with threats and intimidation

and, "We're gonna offer
your soul to Satan."

I always stayed in contact with Karen,
even though we weren't getting along.

- Because we had the son together.
- Yep.

She said that Carl Drew took her to the
Best Western hotel on Columbia Street.

Now it's an assisted
living place.

And she said he brought her in
a room, and they tied her up

and they dripped blood all over
her and they walked around the room

saying, in different languages
that you never even knew.

They had crosses hung from the
ceiling upside down and everything.

You have to be a certain bit
of a showman in the world

in order to get ahead.

If someone begs to be misused,
then I'll be very glad to oblige.

This was not an
organized satanic cult,

where, you know, they kept
a book of shadows, or...

This was self-styled
creation by Carl Drew

in order to keep people in line.

"Satan knows, Satan's gonna
know, Satan knows everything."

I said, "They're gonna
sacrifice a human being,"

because that's what's required on Halloween
and on May 1, is a human sacrifice.

Usually it's a baby.

You know, there's
plenty of pimps who are abusive,

who, you know, prey on women.

They don't have to say,
"I worship the devil,"

and "Satan will take your soul if you
don't bring in 200 bucks a night."

Carl Drew used Satanism.

They would meet at
different apartments

and try to summon up the devil.

Obviously, the devil
didn't show up.

But perhaps Carl
Drew was the devil,

and they didn't have
to summon anyone.

He was the one who just brought
evil into all of their lives.

Karen, that night,
took me to the forest

and showed me this area
that Carl had taken her to.

And that how they were
gonna kill her son.

Satan was gonna
take her son's life.

We picked her up, drove
around, we looked for altars.

We were trying to
cultivate a story from her

and she was just incoherent
and crying uncontrollably.

She was saying that once Carl
knew that she had been talking to me,

they were gonna kill her.

She wanted to go to St. Mary's
Church and talk to a priest.

On the way there,
I called the chief of police

and I asked him to place
Karen in protective custody.

He agreed that I could do that.

She insisted that she wanted to see the priest
and didn't wanna be in protective custody.

We dropped
her off at the church.

She rang the rectory
door, the lights came on.

I remember the priest
coming to the door and greeting her.

I drove away.

That's the last we saw of her.

It was maybe the following
day when her grandmother

got in touch with the
police department,

and Captain Andrade
called Alan and I in.

It's about 3:00 in the
afternoon if I recall correctly.

And he said, you know,
that Karen was missing.

And at that point, we knew
she probably was not missing.

The longer time went by
that she wasn't there,

the likelihood of her coming back
would, I would think would be

far and few between, you
know? Wouldn't happen.

I felt like, why wasn't
somebody helping her?

I questioned, where was God?

I felt sick.

The police came to my mother's
house on Robeson Street and questioned me

'cause Karen was missing.

And I was like, "I don't know who
did it, I don't know what happened,

and I don't know
where Karen is."

But I do know she was
in some sort of trouble.

Carl Drew,
he was a suspect,

but he also wasn't someone that we
went to on the street to talk to.

He didn't make
himself available.

Didn't want to see us.

Everybody we were trying
to talk to would eventually end up

at an apartment
in Harbor Terrace.

Sonny Sparda
lived in Harbor Terrace,

which was a housing
project in Fall River.

That was the main hangout for a
number of people at that time.

Sonny Sparda had a history
of being involved with drugs,

with street crime.

She was close friends
with all of the players.

Carl Drew,

Robin,

Karen.

Robin had called Sonny one time.

And Fall River detectives,
they happened to be there.

Sonny allowed me to
listen in on the phone call.

And while doing so, Robin said

she was involved in this.

That set in motion
Robin's arrest.

She was between
a rock and a hard place.

She no doubt felt safer with the
police than she did with Carl Drew.

They brought Robin over to the
district attorney's office.

And she looked up. As soon as she
saw me, she looked very upset.

At that point, she knew
that state police were working

out of the district
attorney's office,

and she thought that if
she needed to get a deal,

it would be through
the state police.

What happened with Robin
is the district attorney's office

finally took her into
protective custody

and that virtually eliminated
our involvement with her.

Robin Murphy goes to the DA and they offer
Robin pretty much a deal right then and there.

Robin says, Carl Drew forced all
of these women to worship Satan

and used it as a mechanism to
control their money, their take.

And that she was forced into this Satan
cult worshipping horror show by Carl Drew.

Robin doesn't take any responsibility
for the murder of Doreen Levesque.

Instead, she tells the Bristol
County DA's office that Karen,

her romantic love
interest, told her

that Carl wanted to make
an offering to Satan.

Karen had been
forced to participate,

that Carl told her we have
to give her soul to Satan,

and that she picked up a rock and
bashed the victim in the head.

But Robin had nothing
to do with it.

Karen Marsden decided that she wants to
leave Carl Drew and Satan altogether.

She wants nothing to do
with Satan, goodbye devil.

Well, Karen Marsden
had been a witness.

Carl was in total fear
that Karen was gonna tell the story

about Carl's presence and participation
with Doreen Levesque's homicide.

The death of Karen was quite
simply to kill a witness,

to kill a witness to a murder.

I didn't believe it at the time.

But they killed her a few
hours after I dropped her off.

I think about that often.

I knew that she would
have a price to pay.

I didn't think for a moment
that they would kill her.

They did.

Robin and Karen
are on the street.

A car goes by, stops.

Carl is in the vehicle with
a number of other people.

Carl says, "Come on,
get in the car now."

The driver of the car
is Carol Fletcher.

She's one of Carl
Drew's prostitutes.

Also in the car is Carl
Davis and Willie Smith.

Both of them are caught up in
the drug culture in Fall River.

Robin's story was that
they pulled Karen out of the car.

She punched Karen in the
face, ripped her hair out,

ripped all her hair out
and threw it on the ground.

Karen, she lived with Robin and
they were lovers. They were a couple.

And the fact that Robin Murphy was
the one who actually slit her throat

just goes to show you
the level of pure evil.

The state police dogs were
hitting on that blood where she was killed,

where her throat was
cut and she bled out.

Robin, she
was afraid of him.

Robin wasn't afraid
of too many people.

Robin says that
Carl Drew, the son of Satan,

told them that they had to participate
because they were offering her soul to Satan,

and that would somehow indemnify
them from any sort of backlash.

We found evidence
of where she was dragged

over nearly a two mile area.

Parts of her hair, some teeth.

Over that area where she was beaten and
dragged before they decapitated her.

The body was never found.

There was rumors that they were playing
soccer with her head in the woods.

I was in my early 20s,
you know, when this stuff comes out.

It's so shocking.

You know, you're like, how
can anybody make this up?

Carl actually kicked her skull after she
was decapitated, kicked it in the air.

We could only find the
upper portion of her teeth

and the rest of her skull.

We had evidence from
others, Carol Fletcher.

Carol Fletcher
took a deal for immunity.

The three men were
indicted for murder.

Robin, she turned
state's evidence.

It is also been revealed
that her murder was a ritualistic killing

tied to a satanic cult that exists among
prostitutes and pimps in Fall River.

This is somebody who is
insanely, barbarically nuts.

And whether he did it
to offer souls to Satan

or he did it because he's a
deep-rooted evil wackadoodle,

I don't think there's
a big difference there.

We were able to determine
that there may have been more

than one individual
involved in the crime.

There was a
lot of fear in the city,

as far as, you know, watch where your
children are and what they're doing.

I remember my mom
being very upset

and praying all the time.

When you hear about that and you say, "Oh,
there was satanic worshipping and stuff,"

you're kind of like... I was wet
behind the ears. I thought that was...

That sounds right to me. Yeah.
That seems plausible. You know?

Plus, I don't know anything
about satanic worship, so

you could say whatever. You could say
they drink a can of chicken noodle soup,

you know, at 6:30
every night, and I...

"All right, if that's what they do, I
don't know much about it." You know?

I always had faith in the legal system. I
never thought that once would I ever get set up

and framed for a murder that
I had nothing to do with.

Lots of people in prison
say that they're innocent.

Twenty-five years
ago, I met Carl Drew,

fifteen years after
he'd been incarcerated.

What sticks it in my
craw, what gives me a

it still gives me a
lump in my throat,

is knowing that he
remains in prison.

This injustice will haunt me

until I die,

until he dies, or
until he's released.

And I appreciate your efforts to
document what happened to Carl.

It was bullshit,
it never happened.

Police take
away boxes full of bones

and satanic paraphernalia.

"Do you wish to sell
your soul to Satan?

Do you drink blood?"
According to this note,

these were just a couple of the
questions you have to answer

if you wanna be a
part of this cult.

It was a made-up story.

It was a made-up story to
hide from what the truth was.

There's no
physical evidence at all

tying Carl Drew to these crimes,

not a single iota of
physical evidence.

The night that she was supposed to have been
killed, I was at my stepmother's wedding.

I had photos of me there.

Carl Drew had nothing to
do with these murders.

Everybody knows it. Everybody.