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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,014 --> 00:00:15,266 Nice to meet you. 2 00:00:15,349 --> 00:00:17,226 - Oh, okay. - Yes. 3 00:00:17,309 --> 00:00:19,937 In Borat subsequent moviefilm, 4 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:21,856 I lived with two conspiracy theorists, 5 00:00:21,939 --> 00:00:23,816 in character, for several days. 6 00:00:23,941 --> 00:00:25,067 - Vaccines. - Bill gates. 7 00:00:25,192 --> 00:00:26,694 - Mail-in ballots. - Chinese virus. 8 00:00:26,777 --> 00:00:28,571 - Drink their blood. - Not nice. 9 00:00:28,654 --> 00:00:31,449 The myths and misinformation they shared with borat 10 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:34,994 fuel a dangerous rhetoric that is tearing apart societies 11 00:00:35,077 --> 00:00:36,370 in front of our eyes. 12 00:00:36,454 --> 00:00:38,664 In this series of episodes, 13 00:00:38,748 --> 00:00:41,125 we'll introduce Jim and Jerry to world-leading experts, 14 00:00:41,167 --> 00:00:43,794 doctors and academics, who will address 15 00:00:43,878 --> 00:00:46,088 some of the most dangerous conspiracies head-on 16 00:00:46,172 --> 00:00:48,674 and debunk them face-to-face. 17 00:00:48,758 --> 00:00:49,800 Hello, Jim and Jerry. 18 00:00:49,884 --> 00:00:51,802 This is Hillary rodham Clinton. 19 00:00:57,141 --> 00:01:00,811 You know, I refuse to take part in mail-in ballots. 20 00:01:00,895 --> 00:01:02,188 It's just bullshit. 21 00:01:02,271 --> 00:01:03,439 Right? 22 00:01:03,522 --> 00:01:04,857 Mail-in ballots... 23 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:06,066 They can cheat. They can win that way. 24 00:01:12,072 --> 00:01:15,326 In 2016, during the presidential primaries, 25 00:01:15,409 --> 00:01:17,369 before the election ever happened, 26 00:01:17,411 --> 00:01:19,830 Roger stone launched the stop the steal website, 27 00:01:19,914 --> 00:01:22,958 and since then, trump has touted voter fraud 28 00:01:23,042 --> 00:01:25,169 as the only reason he would ever lose an election. 29 00:01:25,211 --> 00:01:28,798 Unsolicited millions of ballots that they're sending. 30 00:01:28,881 --> 00:01:30,633 It's a scam. It's a hoax. 31 00:01:30,716 --> 00:01:32,843 Even after he defeated hilary Clinton, 32 00:01:32,927 --> 00:01:34,595 he claimed to be a victim of it, 33 00:01:34,678 --> 00:01:37,473 keeping the threat alive in the minds of his supporters, 34 00:01:37,556 --> 00:01:39,350 until the next election. 35 00:01:39,433 --> 00:01:43,103 During the 2020 election, in the midst of a global pandemic, 36 00:01:43,187 --> 00:01:46,273 many states determined that the best way to keep voters safe 37 00:01:46,357 --> 00:01:49,068 and distanced was through mail-in ballots. 38 00:01:49,151 --> 00:01:52,112 As election day drew closer, trump ramped up 39 00:01:52,196 --> 00:01:54,824 his baseless attacks against mail-in ballots, 40 00:01:54,907 --> 00:01:56,992 continuing to cast doubt on their accuracy. 41 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:05,543 This was a way to undermine the validity 42 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:08,045 of the traditional Democratic voter living in cities 43 00:02:08,128 --> 00:02:10,005 who were thought to be more likely 44 00:02:10,089 --> 00:02:11,882 to utilize the mail-in system. 45 00:02:11,966 --> 00:02:14,718 While dramatic, these claims are patently false. 46 00:02:14,802 --> 00:02:18,055 Mail-in ballots have reliably been used since the civil war, 47 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:19,974 showing no party bias. 48 00:02:20,057 --> 00:02:23,561 One analysis of mail-in ballots in the 2016 and 2018 elections 49 00:02:23,644 --> 00:02:26,897 found only 372 possible cases of fraud, 50 00:02:26,981 --> 00:02:29,358 out of 14.6 million votes cast. 51 00:02:29,441 --> 00:02:32,069 These facts were drowned out by the story of a president 52 00:02:32,194 --> 00:02:35,155 creating doubt about his own nation's electoral system, 53 00:02:35,239 --> 00:02:38,284 which became daily fodder for all the news networks, 54 00:02:38,367 --> 00:02:41,453 which, in turn, continued to spread this false narrative 55 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:42,955 of election fraud. 56 00:02:44,665 --> 00:02:46,000 Hey, Jim and Jerry. 57 00:02:46,083 --> 00:02:48,168 How are you? I feel like I know you two. 58 00:02:48,252 --> 00:02:50,838 Mutale nkonde is a fellow 59 00:02:50,921 --> 00:02:53,382 at the berkman klein center at Harvard. 60 00:02:53,465 --> 00:02:57,553 We have been looking at how platform companies 61 00:02:57,636 --> 00:03:01,140 allow their recommendation algorithms 62 00:03:01,223 --> 00:03:03,475 to spread disinformation. 63 00:03:03,559 --> 00:03:05,102 It's good to meet you. 64 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:06,437 It's nice to be able to sit here and talk to you. 65 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,521 Like, I would love to hear 66 00:03:07,605 --> 00:03:09,189 what element of the election, 67 00:03:09,273 --> 00:03:10,983 if any, do you think... 68 00:03:11,066 --> 00:03:14,695 I think that they used a lot of ballots that were false. 69 00:03:14,778 --> 00:03:17,323 Mail-in voting, is, is open for fraud, 70 00:03:17,406 --> 00:03:19,825 and even Jimmy Carter said that. 71 00:03:19,909 --> 00:03:22,620 It is. It's open completely to fraud, 72 00:03:22,703 --> 00:03:25,080 and you're able to do so many things 73 00:03:25,164 --> 00:03:26,916 with so many extra ballots. 74 00:03:26,999 --> 00:03:31,879 I, I did mail-in, uh, voting for years because I travel a lot. 75 00:03:31,962 --> 00:03:34,715 So, that's how I did it. 76 00:03:34,798 --> 00:03:37,426 But I had to request it. All right? 77 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:39,929 What happened was, they just mass-mailed them out. 78 00:03:40,012 --> 00:03:43,223 The independent studies that the secretary of states 79 00:03:43,307 --> 00:03:45,559 did afterwards with this election, 80 00:03:45,643 --> 00:03:48,812 they said it was the safest election in U.S. history. 81 00:03:48,896 --> 00:03:52,608 Last year's presidential election in United States, 82 00:03:52,691 --> 00:03:56,153 was, all the electoral officials agree, 83 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:58,489 and all observers and commentators agree, 84 00:03:58,572 --> 00:04:02,618 the fairest and most scrupulously carried out 85 00:04:02,701 --> 00:04:05,412 in American history. 86 00:04:05,496 --> 00:04:08,582 The justice department has not seen fraud 87 00:04:08,666 --> 00:04:09,959 on a scale that could have changed the outcome 88 00:04:10,042 --> 00:04:11,752 of the presidential race. 89 00:04:11,835 --> 00:04:14,838 Bush said, in part, the American people "can have confidence 90 00:04:14,922 --> 00:04:16,924 that the election was fundamentally fair." 91 00:04:17,007 --> 00:04:19,385 The voters and the clerks are to be commended for the work 92 00:04:19,468 --> 00:04:23,347 that they did to ensure that, under such significant scrutiny, 93 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:25,432 the process worked. 94 00:04:26,433 --> 00:04:29,645 But Donald trump cannot stand the idea of defeat. 95 00:04:29,728 --> 00:04:32,773 And so, he began to say, 96 00:04:32,856 --> 00:04:34,817 even before the election, that if he was defeated, 97 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:36,944 it would be the result of fraud. 98 00:04:37,027 --> 00:04:39,029 The biggest critical thing that we're looking at right now 99 00:04:39,113 --> 00:04:41,740 - with this country is the corruption. - Yep. 100 00:04:41,824 --> 00:04:43,200 And that's what it boils down to. 101 00:04:43,325 --> 00:04:44,994 That's what's going on right now. 102 00:04:45,077 --> 00:04:46,996 It's... to me, it's disgusting. 103 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:49,748 On Election night 2020, 104 00:04:49,832 --> 00:04:53,210 there was an explosive renewal of the ♪stopthesteal hashtag 105 00:04:53,293 --> 00:04:57,381 causing the eponymous Facebook group to amass 360,000 members 106 00:04:57,464 --> 00:04:59,550 in the 48 hours following election day. 107 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:02,970 Facebook, YouTube and Twitter allowed ♪stopthesteal 108 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:05,389 to circulate on their platforms. 109 00:05:05,472 --> 00:05:07,766 Despite the group's violent rhetoric, 110 00:05:07,850 --> 00:05:10,936 it took Facebook over a month to remove them from their site. 111 00:05:11,020 --> 00:05:13,022 But as we saw on January 6, 112 00:05:13,105 --> 00:05:15,899 - violent rhetoric became real life. - 113 00:05:15,983 --> 00:05:18,027 a mob of domestic terrorists 114 00:05:18,110 --> 00:05:20,779 broke into the capitol to try and stop the confirmation 115 00:05:20,863 --> 00:05:22,948 of the electoral vote. 116 00:05:24,116 --> 00:05:27,619 See, if you believe that the elected representatives 117 00:05:27,703 --> 00:05:29,288 have been fraudulently elected, 118 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:31,915 then you consider yourself justified 119 00:05:31,999 --> 00:05:34,543 in overthrowing them and attacking them. 120 00:05:34,626 --> 00:05:37,129 Which is what happened on January 6. 121 00:05:37,212 --> 00:05:38,714 I think that they put biden in there. 122 00:05:38,797 --> 00:05:39,798 He wasn't elected. 123 00:05:39,882 --> 00:05:42,593 You can't tell me that. 124 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:44,762 You just... I just can't believe that. 125 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:47,473 Stop the steal! Stop the steal! 126 00:05:47,556 --> 00:05:50,684 Stop the steal! Stop the steal! 127 00:05:50,768 --> 00:05:54,396 Stop the steal! 128 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,775 The current wave of conspiracy theories 129 00:05:57,858 --> 00:06:00,569 bypass the traditional gatekeepers 130 00:06:00,652 --> 00:06:02,571 of opinion formation. 131 00:06:02,654 --> 00:06:05,949 Newspaper editors, radio and TV producers, 132 00:06:06,033 --> 00:06:08,035 who would say, "you can't do this. 133 00:06:08,118 --> 00:06:09,703 I'm not going to print this, 134 00:06:09,787 --> 00:06:11,705 because there's no factual evidence for it at all. 135 00:06:11,789 --> 00:06:13,874 It's just a-a, a vicious fantasy." 136 00:06:13,957 --> 00:06:16,085 And with the Internet and social media, 137 00:06:16,168 --> 00:06:17,669 you can bypass all of that 138 00:06:17,753 --> 00:06:19,296 and say whatever you like on the Internet. 139 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:20,714 That's beginning to change, and I think 140 00:06:20,798 --> 00:06:22,674 it's important that that's changing. 141 00:06:22,758 --> 00:06:25,219 Um, that social media companies 142 00:06:25,302 --> 00:06:27,012 now are beginning to take responsibility 143 00:06:27,096 --> 00:06:29,348 for the kind of information that they carry. 144 00:06:29,431 --> 00:06:31,391 But there's still a long way to go. 11273

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