All language subtitles for The Story Of The Songs S01E01 Madonna
Afrikaans
Albanian
Amharic
Arabic
Armenian
Azerbaijani
Basque
Belarusian
Bengali
Bosnian
Bulgarian
Catalan
Cebuano
Chichewa
Chinese (Simplified)
Chinese (Traditional)
Corsican
Croatian
Czech
Danish
Dutch
English
Esperanto
Estonian
Filipino
Finnish
French
Frisian
Galician
Georgian
German
Greek
Gujarati
Haitian Creole
Hausa
Hawaiian
Hebrew
Hindi
Hmong
Hungarian
Icelandic
Igbo
Indonesian
Irish
Italian
Japanese
Javanese
Kannada
Kazakh
Khmer
Korean
Kurdish (Kurmanji)
Kyrgyz
Lao
Latin
Latvian
Lithuanian
Luxembourgish
Macedonian
Malagasy
Malay
Malayalam
Maltese
Maori
Marathi
Mongolian
Myanmar (Burmese)
Nepali
Norwegian
Pashto
Persian
Polish
Portuguese
Punjabi
Romanian
Russian
Samoan
Scots Gaelic
Serbian
Sesotho
Shona
Sindhi
Sinhala
Slovak
Slovenian
Somali
Spanish
Sundanese
Swahili
Swedish
Tajik
Tamil
Telugu
Thai
Turkish
Ukrainian
Urdu
Uzbek
Vietnamese
Welsh
Xhosa
Yiddish
Yoruba
Zulu
Odia (Oriya)
Kinyarwanda
Turkmen
Tatar
Uyghur
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
0:0:1,40 --> 0:0:4,120
(AUDIENCE SCREAMS AND CHEERS)
2
0:0:4,280 --> 0:0:5,280
Queen of pop.
3
0:0:5,440 --> 0:0:8,440
She brought her liveness,
she brought her identity,
4
0:0:8,600 --> 0:0:11,520
she brought energy,
she brought her style.
5
0:0:11,680 --> 0:0:14,640
Mistress of reinvention.
6
0:0:14,800 --> 0:0:17,600
She just loves to shock.
She lives to shock.
7
0:0:17,760 --> 0:0:20,240
With over 300 million record sales,
8
0:0:20,400 --> 0:0:23,800
Madonna's been at the top
of her game for over four decades.
9
0:0:23,960 --> 0:0:25,280
But how did she get there?
10
0:0:25,440 --> 0:0:29,400
And what were the secrets behind
the songs that made her a superstar?
11
0:0:29,560 --> 0:0:30,840
# Holiday... #
12
0:0:31,0 --> 0:0:32,40
From the innocent...
13
0:0:32,200 --> 0:0:34,280
MAN: Holiday is a fun,
frothy pop song.
14
0:0:34,440 --> 0:0:38,160
It's light as air, and you just
can't resist how wonderful it is.
15
0:0:38,320 --> 0:0:39,480
..to the provocative.
16
0:0:39,640 --> 0:0:41,840
# Like a virgin... #
17
0:0:42,0 --> 0:0:43,640
Like A Virgin? Like...like a WHAT?
18
0:0:43,800 --> 0:0:45,240
Excuse me, lady?
19
0:0:45,400 --> 0:0:48,240
..to the track
that defined an entire era.
20
0:0:48,400 --> 0:0:53,480
If there was ever a song that
captured an attitude of the time,
21
0:0:53,640 --> 0:0:55,400
that was a moment.
22
0:0:55,560 --> 0:0:59,400
# 'Cause we are living
in a material world... #
23
0:0:59,560 --> 0:1:1,920
We speak to those who helped
propel her to success -
24
0:1:2,80 --> 0:1:3,360
from the musicians...
25
0:1:3,520 --> 0:1:6,840
We decided maybe there's
something between this song,
26
0:1:7,0 --> 0:1:9,680
and this artist,
might be something magical.
27
0:1:9,840 --> 0:1:12,880
(ROBOTICALLY) # Living
in a material world. #
28
0:1:13,40 --> 0:1:15,440
..and those who sang
on her big hits...
29
0:1:15,600 --> 0:1:17,600
We finished Material Girl
and it was just like,
30
0:1:17,760 --> 0:1:18,920
"Oh, God, this is ridiculous.
31
0:1:19,80 --> 0:1:21,0
"People are gonna love this!"
32
0:1:21,160 --> 0:1:22,480
..to the writers.
33
0:1:22,640 --> 0:1:24,360
MAN: We did get the response
34
0:1:24,520 --> 0:1:29,240
that no-one would ever sing a song
titled 'Like A Virgin',
35
0:1:29,400 --> 0:1:34,440
but fortunately
it was perfect for one singer,
36
0:1:34,600 --> 0:1:36,440
and her name was Madonna.
37
0:1:36,600 --> 0:1:39,400
# Like a virgin... #
38
0:1:39,560 --> 0:1:41,520
We reveal the ruthless ambition
39
0:1:41,680 --> 0:1:43,560
that took a struggling
clubland hopeful...
40
0:1:43,720 --> 0:1:45,400
What are your dreams? What's left?
41
0:1:45,560 --> 0:1:46,720
To rule the world.
42
0:1:46,880 --> 0:1:49,480
..to the pinnacle of global stardom.
43
0:1:49,640 --> 0:1:51,200
This is Madonna,
44
0:1:51,360 --> 0:1:54,240
and the story of the three songs
that defined her career.
45
0:2:1,440 --> 0:2:3,200
Madonna Louise Ciccone -
46
0:2:3,360 --> 0:2:7,240
a dance school dropout from Michigan
who went on to conquer the world,
47
0:2:7,400 --> 0:2:10,960
and enjoy a 40-year career
of unparalleled success.
48
0:2:11,120 --> 0:2:15,480
It's just bigger than anything
I could ever imagine.
49
0:2:16,920 --> 0:2:18,560
From New York street chic
50
0:2:18,720 --> 0:2:20,240
to Blonde Ambition,
51
0:2:20,400 --> 0:2:22,80
from leather-clad
52
0:2:22,240 --> 0:2:24,160
to Ray Of Light earth mother
53
0:2:24,320 --> 0:2:25,400
to Evita,
54
0:2:25,560 --> 0:2:27,0
over and over again
55
0:2:27,160 --> 0:2:28,680
Madonna reinvented
her music and look
56
0:2:28,840 --> 0:2:31,800
to become the ultimate
pop star survivor.
57
0:2:31,960 --> 0:2:34,320
MAN: Was it 16 consecutive
top five hits?
58
0:2:34,480 --> 0:2:36,480
Oh, I don't know.
Something like that.
59
0:2:36,640 --> 0:2:40,280
Madonna has one of the most
groundbreaking careers in pop music.
60
0:2:40,440 --> 0:2:44,680
The first female pop star to have
complete control over her career.
61
0:2:44,840 --> 0:2:46,840
From William Orbit
to Demolition Crew,
62
0:2:47,0 --> 0:2:49,440
she's collaborated
with the world's best producers
63
0:2:49,600 --> 0:2:51,600
to create the world's biggest hits.
64
0:2:51,760 --> 0:2:57,320
She is a vocalist who can bring her
identity to everything she sings.
65
0:2:57,480 --> 0:2:59,920
And she's still going strong today.
66
0:3:0,80 --> 0:3:5,360
She was so...heat-seeking-missile
focused on success.
67
0:3:5,520 --> 0:3:7,960
I want longevity as a human being.
68
0:3:8,120 --> 0:3:9,480
I want it to last forever.
69
0:3:9,640 --> 0:3:11,120
She was like that
from the beginning
70
0:3:11,280 --> 0:3:12,760
and she's still like that now.
71
0:3:12,920 --> 0:3:16,680
But if you want to understand why
Madonna took the world by storm,
72
0:3:16,840 --> 0:3:19,960
you need to explore
just three huge songs -
73
0:3:20,120 --> 0:3:21,960
her first three megahits...
74
0:3:22,120 --> 0:3:23,640
# Holiday
75
0:3:23,800 --> 0:3:25,280
# Like a virgin
76
0:3:25,440 --> 0:3:28,880
# And I am a material girl
77
0:3:29,40 --> 0:3:30,760
..to find the answer.
78
0:3:32,480 --> 0:3:36,80
MAN: We have entered ignition.
Three, two, one.
79
0:3:36,240 --> 0:3:38,120
We have lift-off.
80
0:3:38,280 --> 0:3:42,240
It's 1982, and the Columbia
space shuttle's taking off
81
0:3:42,400 --> 0:3:44,760
on its third mission into space.
82
0:3:44,920 --> 0:3:47,920
Jimmy Connors is bringing
bad boy of tennis John McEnroe
83
0:3:48,80 --> 0:3:49,800
back down to earth.
84
0:3:49,960 --> 0:3:52,200
And the sky's the limit
for Michael Jackson,
85
0:3:52,360 --> 0:3:55,680
as his Thriller album
breaks all sales records.
86
0:3:57,120 --> 0:3:58,480
Meanwhile, a young Madonna Ciccone
87
0:3:58,640 --> 0:4:1,120
has risen from
dance student in Michigan
88
0:4:1,280 --> 0:4:4,80
to be on the verge
of releasing her first single.
89
0:4:4,240 --> 0:4:7,840
But it had been four tough years
getting there.
90
0:4:8,0 --> 0:4:9,440
When Madonna was 20,
91
0:4:9,600 --> 0:4:14,200
she did what she now says
is the bravest thing she ever done -
92
0:4:14,360 --> 0:4:18,80
she dropped out of dance college
and she went to New York.
93
0:4:18,240 --> 0:4:20,160
She said it was the first time
she'd been on a plane,
94
0:4:20,320 --> 0:4:22,280
first time she'd been in a taxi.
95
0:4:22,440 --> 0:4:25,240
She only had $35 in her pocket,
96
0:4:25,400 --> 0:4:27,920
but she had a dream
and she had a belief,
97
0:4:28,80 --> 0:4:31,480
and it was for her
the beginning of everything.
98
0:4:33,0 --> 0:4:35,960
Madonna worked at a Dunkin Donuts
to make money.
99
0:4:36,120 --> 0:4:39,520
She lived in really cruddy,
broken-down buildings
100
0:4:39,680 --> 0:4:41,480
and rough parts of town.
101
0:4:41,640 --> 0:4:45,520
To be a young woman on your own
in Manhattan at the time,
102
0:4:45,680 --> 0:4:48,480
you had to be made out of
pretty stern stuff.
103
0:4:48,640 --> 0:4:50,520
MADONNA: A lot of it
has to do with imagination
104
0:4:50,680 --> 0:4:52,240
and the great desire and need
105
0:4:52,400 --> 0:4:56,840
to get out of that small town
kind of feeling,
106
0:4:57,0 --> 0:4:58,360
go somewhere and be somebody,
107
0:4:58,520 --> 0:5:1,760
because you feel like
you're missing something.
108
0:5:5,320 --> 0:5:9,520
As well as being edgy, the city was
a hotbed of artistic invention.
109
0:5:9,680 --> 0:5:11,280
In and around the club scene,
110
0:5:11,440 --> 0:5:14,840
the ambitious Madonna soaked up
all the influences on offer.
111
0:5:15,0 --> 0:5:17,560
So, the underground scene
in New York in the early '80s,
112
0:5:17,720 --> 0:5:20,480
when Madonna was running around,
was wild.
113
0:5:20,640 --> 0:5:22,120
Hiii!
114
0:5:22,280 --> 0:5:25,320
It was filled with a lot of people
who didn't have a lot of money
115
0:5:25,480 --> 0:5:27,360
but who had a lot of creativity.
116
0:5:27,520 --> 0:5:30,560
I would say there was just
an incredible rhythmic surge
117
0:5:30,720 --> 0:5:32,680
in New York City during that time.
118
0:5:32,840 --> 0:5:36,600
The city was raw,
the city was accessible.
119
0:5:36,760 --> 0:5:40,520
You could come from anywhere,
and absolutely reinvent yourself,
120
0:5:40,680 --> 0:5:42,520
and that's what Madonna did.
121
0:5:42,680 --> 0:5:45,160
There was a buzz
going on with Madonna,
122
0:5:45,320 --> 0:5:47,0
because Madonna had
so much charisma.
123
0:5:47,160 --> 0:5:51,840
She was really a new upcoming
phenomena, you know, in New York.
124
0:5:52,0 --> 0:5:54,360
Everybody knew about her in town.
125
0:5:54,520 --> 0:5:57,560
Although New York had been at the
centre of earlier music trends,
126
0:5:57,720 --> 0:6:0,0
styles were heading
in new directions.
127
0:6:0,160 --> 0:6:8,160
By that time, the big crest of disco
had really come and then receded.
128
0:6:8,320 --> 0:6:11,280
People still wanted to dance,
but it had to change a little bit,
129
0:6:11,440 --> 0:6:14,160
and Madonna's music really...
early music really reflects that.
130
0:6:14,320 --> 0:6:17,480
She'd do her act at clubs,
probably with pre-recorded music,
131
0:6:17,640 --> 0:6:19,720
doing, like, dance stuff at clubs.
132
0:6:19,880 --> 0:6:22,480
It was about the music,
the presentation, the visual image.
133
0:6:22,640 --> 0:6:26,40
You can see
that she's very influenced
by people like Debbie Harry,
134
0:6:26,200 --> 0:6:29,80
who had that kind of
glamour and grit.
135
0:6:29,240 --> 0:6:30,800
MADONNA: I was inspired
by Debbie Harry,
136
0:6:30,960 --> 0:6:34,160
because she seemed very in charge
of what she was doing,
137
0:6:34,320 --> 0:6:39,920
and she also had a sort of wittiness
about her, and street smarts.
138
0:6:40,80 --> 0:6:42,680
I liked her. She was a role model.
139
0:6:42,840 --> 0:6:46,240
Grace Jones is also
the apotheosis of it.
140
0:6:46,400 --> 0:6:49,0
# Pull up to the bumper, baby
141
0:6:49,160 --> 0:6:51,880
# In your long black limousine
142
0:6:53,560 --> 0:6:55,440
You don't just get music on its own.
143
0:6:55,600 --> 0:6:58,360
What you get is the music
matches the attitude
144
0:6:58,520 --> 0:7:2,400
which matches the visuals
which matches the videos.
145
0:7:2,560 --> 0:7:4,600
After months
on the music circuit fringe,
146
0:7:4,760 --> 0:7:6,680
Madonna signed her first record deal,
147
0:7:6,840 --> 0:7:8,760
and in October 1982,
148
0:7:8,920 --> 0:7:12,240
her label released
her debut single, Everybody.
149
0:7:12,400 --> 0:7:14,80
# Everybody
150
0:7:14,240 --> 0:7:16,440
# Come on, dance and sing
151
0:7:16,600 --> 0:7:18,200
# Everybody
152
0:7:18,360 --> 0:7:20,160
# Get up and do your thing
153
0:7:20,320 --> 0:7:22,760
We had heard her sing Everybody,
the song.
154
0:7:22,920 --> 0:7:24,640
# Everybody. # You know?
155
0:7:24,800 --> 0:7:26,280
Which is sort of like a singalong,
156
0:7:26,440 --> 0:7:28,560
so we were very impressed with it,
157
0:7:28,720 --> 0:7:31,280
and I liked it a lot
when I first heard it.
158
0:7:31,440 --> 0:7:33,360
MATTHEW RETTENMUND: Everybody
is like an anthem,
159
0:7:33,520 --> 0:7:34,760
but it's a very low-key anthem.
160
0:7:34,920 --> 0:7:37,120
It's a post disco sound.
161
0:7:37,280 --> 0:7:40,480
So, it's kinda like you can imagine
being in the afterhours club,
162
0:7:40,640 --> 0:7:43,840
as opposed to frenetically dancing
on the dance floor.
163
0:7:44,0 --> 0:7:48,0
The song may have been low-key, but
the singer had high-powered friends,
164
0:7:48,160 --> 0:7:50,280
and in her determination
to be a success,
165
0:7:50,440 --> 0:7:52,280
she was prepared to call on them.
166
0:7:52,440 --> 0:7:56,320
Madonna had been dating the DJ
at Danceteria, Mark Kamins,
167
0:7:56,480 --> 0:7:58,840
and she decided that she was
going to impress upon Mark
168
0:7:59,0 --> 0:8:1,320
that he needed to play this music.
169
0:8:1,480 --> 0:8:3,720
Now, this is
his beautiful girlfriend,
170
0:8:3,880 --> 0:8:5,560
and it's a song that he liked,
171
0:8:5,720 --> 0:8:8,560
but he was afraid
because he thought,
"What if everybody stops dancing?"
172
0:8:8,720 --> 0:8:10,280
But he took the risk. He played it.
173
0:8:10,440 --> 0:8:12,720
And nobody stopped dancing.
Everybody continued dancing.
174
0:8:12,880 --> 0:8:14,400
They loved it.
175
0:8:14,560 --> 0:8:16,440
Loved it and bought it.
176
0:8:16,600 --> 0:8:19,320
Not only did the song
become a clubland favourite,
177
0:8:19,480 --> 0:8:22,480
it reached the top five
in the US dance charts.
178
0:8:22,640 --> 0:8:26,200
DAVID GRANT: It's the
world superstar in embryo.
179
0:8:26,360 --> 0:8:28,440
You can't yet tell
she's going to be a superstar,
180
0:8:28,600 --> 0:8:31,160
but what you can tell
is she has an identity,
181
0:8:31,320 --> 0:8:34,640
she has an attitude,
and she has a presence,
182
0:8:34,800 --> 0:8:36,120
and it's all there.
183
0:8:36,280 --> 0:8:39,760
# But you don't even know I'm alive
184
0:8:39,920 --> 0:8:43,40
# And this pounding in my heart
just won't die
185
0:8:43,200 --> 0:8:44,360
# I'm burning up
186
0:8:44,520 --> 0:8:46,880
Keen to cash in
on her early success,
187
0:8:47,40 --> 0:8:51,280
Madonna's label rushed out a
follow-up dance single, Burning Up.
188
0:8:51,440 --> 0:8:53,480
# I'm burning up,
burning up for your love
189
0:8:53,640 --> 0:8:54,920
# I'm burning up
190
0:8:55,80 --> 0:8:56,720
# Burning up for your love
191
0:8:56,880 --> 0:9:3,280
I really enjoyed Madonna's first
singles, Burning Up and Everybody.
192
0:9:3,440 --> 0:9:7,80
They were so melodic, poppy
and dancy all at the same time,
193
0:9:7,240 --> 0:9:9,720
and then I saw a photograph of her.
194
0:9:9,880 --> 0:9:12,120
I thought, "OK,
she's sort of a contender here."
195
0:9:12,280 --> 0:9:15,760
Because she was combining
this street look
196
0:9:15,920 --> 0:9:18,960
with this very accessible pop sound.
197
0:9:19,120 --> 0:9:21,440
# Now tell me what you want me to do
198
0:9:21,600 --> 0:9:24,640
# I'm not blind and I know
199
0:9:24,800 --> 0:9:28,240
# That you want to want me
but you can't let go
200
0:9:28,400 --> 0:9:29,440
# Come on, let go!
201
0:9:29,600 --> 0:9:32,80
It wasn't a hit,
but that almost doesn't matter,
202
0:9:32,240 --> 0:9:34,520
because every journey
starts with a step,
203
0:9:34,680 --> 0:9:39,0
and Burning Up is a very small
but significant step.
204
0:9:39,160 --> 0:9:41,320
A much bigger step
came six months later.
205
0:9:41,480 --> 0:9:43,720
Madonna released
a feel-good pop anthem
206
0:9:43,880 --> 0:9:47,640
that would take her out of the dance
charts and into the mainstream.
207
0:9:47,800 --> 0:9:49,240
# Holiday
208
0:9:51,560 --> 0:9:53,160
# Celebrate
209
0:9:55,960 --> 0:9:59,800
Holiday is a fun, frothy pop song.
The meaning isn't super deep.
210
0:9:59,960 --> 0:10:4,80
It's just a song about partying
and having a little bit of fun.
211
0:10:4,240 --> 0:10:6,640
# If we took a holiday
212
0:10:8,240 --> 0:10:10,0
The upbeat lyrics were no accident.
213
0:10:10,160 --> 0:10:13,160
They were written as an antidote
to the depressing events
214
0:10:13,320 --> 0:10:16,560
that dominated
the early '80s news cycle.
215
0:10:16,720 --> 0:10:18,760
# It would be
216
0:10:18,920 --> 0:10:21,40
# It would be so nice
217
0:10:21,200 --> 0:10:25,400
I was inspired by watching
the television news at the time.
218
0:10:25,560 --> 0:10:29,360
It was troubling to see so much
turmoil and just confusion.
219
0:10:29,520 --> 0:10:32,920
So, it came to me like,
if we just had one day
220
0:10:33,80 --> 0:10:35,760
that we can just stop
everywhere all over the world,
221
0:10:35,920 --> 0:10:38,320
that would be, like,
a really great thing.
222
0:10:38,480 --> 0:10:41,880
So the lyrics came -
"If we took a holiday,
223
0:10:42,40 --> 0:10:43,960
"took some time to celebrate,
224
0:10:44,120 --> 0:10:47,80
"just one day out of life,
it would be so nice."
225
0:10:47,240 --> 0:10:50,760
Sometimes when people are going
through very difficult situations,
226
0:10:50,920 --> 0:10:54,80
simplicity sticks the landing
better than sophistication.
227
0:10:54,240 --> 0:10:57,600
Something that just lifts your
spirits because it's light as air,
228
0:10:57,760 --> 0:11:0,280
and you just can't resist
how wonderful it is.
229
0:11:0,440 --> 0:11:2,280
The melody went like this.
230
0:11:2,440 --> 0:11:4,440
(PLAYS MAIN MELODY TO 'HOLIDAY')
231
0:11:4,600 --> 0:11:8,80
# If we took a holiday
232
0:11:9,560 --> 0:11:12,440
# Took some time to celebrate
233
0:11:12,600 --> 0:11:15,200
By the time Curtis offered Holiday
to Madonna,
234
0:11:15,360 --> 0:11:18,240
two other artists
had already turned the song down.
235
0:11:18,400 --> 0:11:22,480
But her recording would deliver
the stardom she'd always craved.
236
0:11:22,640 --> 0:11:24,800
# Everybody spread the word
237
0:11:24,960 --> 0:11:26,960
DAVID: Holiday
was like a wrecking ball
238
0:11:27,120 --> 0:11:30,120
that smashed the wall
that Madonna had been facing.
239
0:11:30,280 --> 0:11:32,200
It was her pop breakthrough.
240
0:11:32,360 --> 0:11:34,240
And it was the start of her becoming
241
0:11:34,400 --> 0:11:36,0
one of the biggest stars
on the planet.
242
0:11:39,40 --> 0:11:40,605
(APPLAUSE, CHEERING)
243
0:11:42,120 --> 0:11:45,960
It's 1983 and Madonna has risen
from dance school drop-out
244
0:11:46,120 --> 0:11:47,960
to dance chart star.
245
0:11:48,120 --> 0:11:50,360
This is the story
behind the three songs
246
0:11:50,520 --> 0:11:53,400
that launched her into
global superstardom.
247
0:11:53,560 --> 0:11:55,80
# Holiday
248
0:11:55,240 --> 0:11:58,600
With the first, Holiday,
just about to be released,
249
0:11:58,760 --> 0:12:0,800
it was her first mainstream pop song,
250
0:12:0,960 --> 0:12:3,320
and would go on to be a hit
across the globe.
251
0:12:4,920 --> 0:12:7,80
# Celebrate
252
0:12:7,240 --> 0:12:9,360
But while the song
had worldwide appeal,
253
0:12:9,520 --> 0:12:13,280
it was rooted in New York's
disco-influenced R&B scene.
254
0:12:13,440 --> 0:12:15,880
CURTIS HUDSON: I was in a band
called Pure Energy.
255
0:12:16,40 --> 0:12:20,320
It consisted of myself,
Raymond Hudson - my brother,
256
0:12:20,480 --> 0:12:23,320
and Lisa Stevens, the lead singer.
257
0:12:23,480 --> 0:12:29,160
Lisa had these chords.
# Da, ba, ba, ba. #
258
0:12:29,320 --> 0:12:32,920
I wrote everything else
in the song -
259
0:12:33,80 --> 0:12:37,0
the melody, the lyrics,
the arrangement,
260
0:12:37,160 --> 0:12:39,320
everything else was my ideas.
261
0:12:39,480 --> 0:12:46,320
As soon as we got to the point that
we heard the intro part of Holiday,
262
0:12:46,480 --> 0:12:47,920
the... (SINGS INTRO MELODY)
263
0:12:48,80 --> 0:12:50,240
(INTRO TO 'HOLIDAY' PLAYS)
264
0:12:51,640 --> 0:12:53,0
When Curtis created that part,
265
0:12:53,160 --> 0:12:57,360
we knew the song had
a certain...energy, I would say.
266
0:12:57,520 --> 0:12:59,360
It was a positive energy.
267
0:12:59,520 --> 0:13:2,240
And we was like, "We gotta
do something with this song."
268
0:13:2,400 --> 0:13:5,720
Holiday had all the elements
a catchy pop anthem needed.
269
0:13:5,880 --> 0:13:9,240
But if Pure Energy thought it would
make THEM famous, they were wrong.
270
0:13:9,400 --> 0:13:11,840
CURTIS: When we finished
recording the demo,
271
0:13:12,0 --> 0:13:13,520
I let tons of people hear it,
272
0:13:13,680 --> 0:13:15,880
and when...every time
Holiday would come on,
273
0:13:16,40 --> 0:13:18,320
everyone would say, "That's a hit."
274
0:13:18,480 --> 0:13:21,720
"Stop, play that again.
That song is a hit."
275
0:13:21,880 --> 0:13:25,0
And we were hoping that it would be
the song that launched us,
276
0:13:25,160 --> 0:13:28,120
but our record label,
they turned it down,
277
0:13:28,280 --> 0:13:32,40
and that's when we decided
we were going to shop the song
to other artists.
278
0:13:33,240 --> 0:13:35,640
Two of those artists
turned the song down
279
0:13:35,800 --> 0:13:37,720
but, remaining convinced
of its potential,
280
0:13:37,880 --> 0:13:41,520
Curtis and his bandmates turned
to their New York disco contacts.
281
0:13:41,680 --> 0:13:44,720
We had a relationship
with Jellybean John Benitez.
282
0:13:44,880 --> 0:13:49,280
Jellybean was a very influential DJ,
and he wasn't just in one club -
283
0:13:49,440 --> 0:13:52,480
he was in about sort of six clubs,
including Studio 54.
284
0:13:52,640 --> 0:13:55,920
RAYMOND: There was 3,000,
4,000 people in his club,
285
0:13:56,80 --> 0:13:59,880
and if he spin your song
and your song catch on,
286
0:14:0,40 --> 0:14:4,120
nine times out of ten, your song
was probably going to be a hit.
287
0:14:4,280 --> 0:14:7,600
But it was Jellybean's romantic
rather than clubland connections
288
0:14:7,760 --> 0:14:9,800
that landed the perfect artist.
289
0:14:9,960 --> 0:14:11,920
JOE LYNCH: Madonna and he hooked up,
290
0:14:12,80 --> 0:14:13,920
and I think it was very fortuitous
291
0:14:14,80 --> 0:14:16,720
that they happened to come together
that time.
292
0:14:16,880 --> 0:14:18,120
They were dating for a while.
293
0:14:18,280 --> 0:14:19,960
I mean, I don't know how serious,
294
0:14:20,120 --> 0:14:23,960
but we know that they were
very close, very close.
295
0:14:24,120 --> 0:14:25,720
That's how we ended up
meeting Madonna,
296
0:14:25,880 --> 0:14:28,920
because what we did was we went to
this club called the Funhouse
297
0:14:29,80 --> 0:14:32,600
where Jellybean was a big DJ,
and he invited Madonna there.
298
0:14:32,760 --> 0:14:35,880
After we met with her,
she told us she loved the song,
299
0:14:36,40 --> 0:14:40,600
and, you know, pretty much asked us
could she do the song.
300
0:14:40,760 --> 0:14:42,600
And as a whole, we decided
301
0:14:42,760 --> 0:14:47,160
that maybe there's something
between this song and this artist.
302
0:14:47,320 --> 0:14:49,320
Might be something magical.
303
0:14:51,400 --> 0:14:54,120
With the agreement struck,
Madonna turned up at the studio
304
0:14:54,280 --> 0:14:56,640
ready to record Pure Energy's song.
305
0:14:56,800 --> 0:15:0,840
But right from the start, she
made it clear it was now HER song.
306
0:15:1,0 --> 0:15:3,200
Madonna comes in the door
singing Holiday.
307
0:15:3,360 --> 0:15:5,160
# Holiday, celebrate. #
308
0:15:5,320 --> 0:15:6,680
She was, like,
really happy about it.
309
0:15:6,840 --> 0:15:8,640
So, we knew that Holiday
gonna be good for Madonna.
310
0:15:8,800 --> 0:15:12,680
She was watching everything
that happened in the studio.
311
0:15:12,840 --> 0:15:17,160
She wanted make sure
that nothing did mess the song up
312
0:15:17,320 --> 0:15:18,520
or hurt the song.
313
0:15:18,680 --> 0:15:21,240
(HUMS MELODY)
314
0:15:21,400 --> 0:15:24,560
I remember when I was doing
the guitar parts
315
0:15:24,720 --> 0:15:27,120
and I was playing it a certain way,
316
0:15:27,280 --> 0:15:30,720
and she stopped and said,
"Do you have to do that?
317
0:15:30,880 --> 0:15:34,40
"You can hear the bounce
on the strings."
318
0:15:45,400 --> 0:15:50,80
So, when you put the two of those
together, it's a very funky track.
319
0:15:54,800 --> 0:15:57,280
That's what they call the funk,
you know?
320
0:15:57,440 --> 0:16:0,720
It's the guitar pick
hitting up against the strings
321
0:16:0,880 --> 0:16:3,720
that give it a funky,
you know, rhythmic feel.
322
0:16:7,160 --> 0:16:8,760
She was like,
"But can you do that without...
323
0:16:8,920 --> 0:16:10,80
"..play it without doing it?"
324
0:16:10,240 --> 0:16:12,880
I said, "Yes,
but I don't wanna do that."
325
0:16:13,40 --> 0:16:17,560
And so we kinda, like,
had a little, debate about it,
326
0:16:17,720 --> 0:16:20,400
and I think Jellybean shut it down,
you know,
327
0:16:20,560 --> 0:16:22,800
sort of like, "He's the guitarist,
let him play it."
328
0:16:22,960 --> 0:16:25,680
How many artists even
pay attention to that, you know?
329
0:16:25,840 --> 0:16:27,200
So I was annoyed a little bit,
330
0:16:27,360 --> 0:16:29,360
but I was kinda impressed
at the same time.
331
0:16:29,520 --> 0:16:31,440
The thing about many artists,
332
0:16:31,600 --> 0:16:36,0
you see their personalities change
with, you know, the attention,
333
0:16:36,160 --> 0:16:37,760
the money and the publicity.
334
0:16:37,920 --> 0:16:39,960
Madonna was always the same.
335
0:16:40,120 --> 0:16:41,640
So, when she hadn't sold a record,
336
0:16:41,800 --> 0:16:44,960
she was as difficult as when
she'd sold 50 million records,
337
0:16:45,120 --> 0:16:46,760
because she knew her own mind,
338
0:16:46,920 --> 0:16:49,400
and she was generally always right.
339
0:16:49,560 --> 0:16:51,840
# If we took a holiday
340
0:16:52,0 --> 0:16:55,160
Madonna may have been difficult
over the instrumentals,
341
0:16:55,320 --> 0:16:58,800
but when it came to laying down her
vocals, she was downright demanding.
342
0:16:58,960 --> 0:17:1,440
Other than the producer,
she order everyone out,
343
0:17:1,600 --> 0:17:4,560
including original vocalist
Lisa Stevens.
344
0:17:4,720 --> 0:17:9,720
Jellybean informed us, "Well,
Madonna don't want anybody
to be in the studio."
345
0:17:9,880 --> 0:17:12,760
So we was like, "OK," you know?
346
0:17:12,920 --> 0:17:16,200
I mean, I kinda felt bad,
'cause Raymond and myself,
347
0:17:16,360 --> 0:17:19,440
we were there in the session
for the rhythm track,
348
0:17:19,600 --> 0:17:21,400
we was participating in that,
349
0:17:21,560 --> 0:17:24,880
and Lisa was like...I guess
she was saying, "OK, vocals next,"
350
0:17:25,40 --> 0:17:28,160
and Madonna had a different idea.
351
0:17:28,320 --> 0:17:33,320
Even at this young age,
she would take no bull from anybody.
352
0:17:33,480 --> 0:17:38,40
She would believe what she believed
and she trusted her own instinct.
353
0:17:38,200 --> 0:17:41,840
And time after time
she proved to be right.
354
0:17:42,0 --> 0:17:43,680
RAYMOND: She brought
a sort of innocence
355
0:17:43,840 --> 0:17:46,160
that's gonna to appeal
to a lot of young people,
356
0:17:46,320 --> 0:17:49,600
and she brought her liveness,
she brought her identity,
357
0:17:49,760 --> 0:17:53,920
she brought energy,
she brought her style.
358
0:17:54,80 --> 0:17:55,600
We wasn't in the studio at all.
359
0:17:55,760 --> 0:17:59,760
That's why we were surprised
when we did hear her final vocals.
360
0:17:59,920 --> 0:18:2,280
It was, like, "Wow, OK,
they sound good."
361
0:18:2,440 --> 0:18:5,920
DAVID: Madonna at this stage
was a great vocalist,
362
0:18:6,80 --> 0:18:9,160
because she had something that you'd
not get on a lot of club records -
363
0:18:9,320 --> 0:18:11,360
her diction was really clear.
364
0:18:11,520 --> 0:18:14,360
And she sounded like
she was riding the rhythm,
365
0:18:14,520 --> 0:18:17,520
and just kind of almost
speak-singing the words.
366
0:18:17,680 --> 0:18:21,560
# If we took a holiday. #
No riffs, empty the space.
367
0:18:21,720 --> 0:18:23,960
# If we took a holiday
368
0:18:26,80 --> 0:18:28,360
# Just one time to celebrate. #
369
0:18:28,520 --> 0:18:29,960
Empty the space.
370
0:18:30,120 --> 0:18:32,480
# Took some time to celebrate
371
0:18:34,240 --> 0:18:36,360
# Just one day out of life
372
0:18:38,240 --> 0:18:40,280
# It would be
373
0:18:40,440 --> 0:18:42,720
# It would be so nice
374
0:18:42,880 --> 0:18:46,480
Madonna was all about rhythm
and attitude and vibe,
375
0:18:46,640 --> 0:18:49,760
and Holiday had
all of those imprints.
376
0:18:49,920 --> 0:18:52,480
Holiday was the first showcase
for a vocal style
377
0:18:52,640 --> 0:18:56,280
that would soon become instantly
recognisable all over the world,
378
0:18:56,440 --> 0:18:59,40
and was an important step
towards the global phenomenon
379
0:18:59,200 --> 0:19:1,520
that Madonna would soon become.
380
0:19:1,680 --> 0:19:4,640
It quickly became a mainstream
American radio favourite,
381
0:19:4,800 --> 0:19:8,760
and reached number 16 on the
all-important US Billboard chart.
382
0:19:8,920 --> 0:19:11,640
Madonna was a mere disco artist
no more.
383
0:19:11,800 --> 0:19:13,640
Holiday took her to the next level.
384
0:19:13,800 --> 0:19:16,40
I mean, that was really
getting radio play,
385
0:19:16,200 --> 0:19:19,440
and people were aware of Madonna.
386
0:19:19,600 --> 0:19:21,440
She was a force to contend with.
387
0:19:21,600 --> 0:19:27,80
Holiday was her pop breakthrough.
It was irritatingly unforgettable.
388
0:19:27,240 --> 0:19:29,960
It kind of works its way into you.
389
0:19:30,120 --> 0:19:32,80
# Celebrate
390
0:19:34,80 --> 0:19:35,800
# Holiday
391
0:19:38,440 --> 0:19:40,640
All those involved
in the recording of Holiday
392
0:19:40,800 --> 0:19:42,0
believed it would be a hit,
393
0:19:42,160 --> 0:19:44,560
but surprisingly,
record company Warner Brothers
394
0:19:44,720 --> 0:19:47,120
hadn't even bothered
to produce a promotional video.
395
0:19:47,280 --> 0:19:49,40
# Took some time to celebrate
396
0:19:49,200 --> 0:19:51,320
JOE LYNCH: There are a couple
of performances Madonna gave
397
0:19:51,480 --> 0:19:53,400
for a little LipSync promotion spot,
398
0:19:53,560 --> 0:19:56,640
and those sort of ended up
being what was used as the video
399
0:19:56,800 --> 0:19:58,640
in people's minds.
400
0:19:58,800 --> 0:20:3,440
The video is absolutely charming,
because she's so free in it.
401
0:20:3,600 --> 0:20:5,120
The dancing is kind of goofy.
402
0:20:5,280 --> 0:20:8,560
It's a little bit like
doing the sailor's Hornpipe.
403
0:20:8,720 --> 0:20:11,800
DAVID: It's great - she's got
this kind of skipping little dance
that she does,
404
0:20:11,960 --> 0:20:15,0
but it's the same dance that she did
every time she performed this.
405
0:20:15,160 --> 0:20:17,80
The kind of swaying
from side to side.
406
0:20:17,240 --> 0:20:22,120
She knows exactly where the cameras
are. She looks fantastic.
407
0:20:24,920 --> 0:20:28,360
Those looks caught the public's
attention as much as the music.
408
0:20:28,520 --> 0:20:31,360
The first of many Madonna styles
was born.
409
0:20:31,520 --> 0:20:35,960
Madonna's image, when she first
burst upon to the scene in 1983,
410
0:20:36,120 --> 0:20:39,320
it was very New York
thrift bohemian,
411
0:20:39,480 --> 0:20:43,720
with the fishnets and
the distressed denim and leather.
412
0:20:43,880 --> 0:20:46,400
We have the scarf
in the tousled hair.
413
0:20:46,560 --> 0:20:49,760
We've got the really
acutely defined lips,
414
0:20:49,920 --> 0:20:54,600
loose top, the layers, the skirts,
the little dancer leggings.
415
0:20:54,760 --> 0:20:59,760
She looks like a cute broke
New York dancer on her day off.
416
0:20:59,920 --> 0:21:2,40
It kind of took America by storm.
417
0:21:2,200 --> 0:21:6,160
You know, the mall was just
a sea of teenage girls
418
0:21:6,320 --> 0:21:7,600
trying to dress up like her.
419
0:21:7,760 --> 0:21:10,680
It was an iconic look
that was endlessly copied,
420
0:21:10,840 --> 0:21:14,400
not just amongst her fans
but amongst other pop stars too.
421
0:21:14,560 --> 0:21:17,320
The street style
may have looked thrown together,
422
0:21:17,480 --> 0:21:20,400
but every aspect
was carefully thought through,
423
0:21:20,560 --> 0:21:22,440
as photographer Richard Corman
found out
424
0:21:22,600 --> 0:21:24,760
during one of her first
professional shoots.
425
0:21:24,920 --> 0:21:27,920
RICHARD: I had never met anybody
like Madonna.
426
0:21:28,80 --> 0:21:31,720
From her dark roots in her hair
to her red lips
427
0:21:31,880 --> 0:21:33,720
to the makeup on her eyes
428
0:21:33,880 --> 0:21:38,400
to the way she was dressed -
the torn jeans, the jewellery.
429
0:21:38,560 --> 0:21:40,840
She was living art.
430
0:21:41,0 --> 0:21:44,320
I knew I was in the throes
of something remarkable.
431
0:21:46,80 --> 0:21:49,920
Her sexuality was a part
of every photograph we took,
432
0:21:50,80 --> 0:21:53,40
whether it was through her humour,
433
0:21:53,200 --> 0:21:57,280
whether it was the way
she looked into the camera...
434
0:21:57,440 --> 0:22:2,80
She made an ordinary stove
sexy and funny and playful,
435
0:22:2,240 --> 0:22:4,720
and charismatic
and three-dimensional
436
0:22:4,880 --> 0:22:6,720
unlike anybody could have.
437
0:22:7,800 --> 0:22:12,800
Working with Madonna,
it was jaw-dropping for me
438
0:22:12,960 --> 0:22:15,600
because I had never seen somebody
439
0:22:15,760 --> 0:22:18,880
that was so comfortable
in her own skin.
440
0:22:19,40 --> 0:22:22,600
And if she wasn't, you know,
I was totally fooled.
441
0:22:23,760 --> 0:22:26,760
With mounting record sales
and magazine front covers,
442
0:22:26,920 --> 0:22:29,920
it was time for the next step
in Madonna's transformation
443
0:22:30,80 --> 0:22:32,0
into a key cultural figure.
444
0:22:32,160 --> 0:22:35,960
It came with an appearance
on America's premier TV music show.
445
0:22:36,120 --> 0:22:39,960
American Bandstand is a pop music
institution on US television.
446
0:22:40,120 --> 0:22:42,840
The fact that Madonna
was on such an iconic show
447
0:22:43,0 --> 0:22:45,240
was really important.
448
0:22:45,400 --> 0:22:46,840
To those who'd worked with her,
449
0:22:47,0 --> 0:22:49,360
Madonna's ruthless ambition
was an open secret.
450
0:22:49,520 --> 0:22:52,40
Now she was about to share it
with everyone.
451
0:22:52,200 --> 0:22:53,840
What are your dreams? What's next?
452
0:22:54,0 --> 0:22:55,280
To rule the world.
453
0:22:57,720 --> 0:23:1,360
And you just think,
"Whoa. What hubris."
454
0:23:1,520 --> 0:23:3,400
But, my God, she was right.
455
0:23:3,560 --> 0:23:5,840
There's plenty of talented people
out there -
456
0:23:6,0 --> 0:23:8,480
more talented,
much more talented, than Madonna.
457
0:23:8,640 --> 0:23:11,360
But they do not have that drive.
458
0:23:11,520 --> 0:23:12,960
It had taken barely a year
459
0:23:13,120 --> 0:23:16,960
for Madonna to move from an obscure
dance artist to mainstream star,
460
0:23:17,120 --> 0:23:20,0
and she would always have
this song to thank.
461
0:23:20,160 --> 0:23:21,680
# Let's celebrate
462
0:23:21,840 --> 0:23:23,560
DAVID: Holiday
was like a wrecking ball
463
0:23:23,720 --> 0:23:27,0
that smashed the wall
that Madonna had been facing.
464
0:23:27,160 --> 0:23:30,760
It was her pop breakthrough,
and it was the start of her becoming
465
0:23:30,920 --> 0:23:33,600
one of the biggest stars
on the planet.
466
0:23:33,760 --> 0:23:39,480
Holiday was a great entry level song
for future Madonna fans.
467
0:23:39,640 --> 0:23:43,880
It was just the fun Madonna,
the escapist Madonna.
468
0:23:44,40 --> 0:23:46,40
# You're so fine
469
0:23:46,200 --> 0:23:47,600
# And you're mine
470
0:23:47,760 --> 0:23:51,440
But there was a series of other
Madonnas already in the pipeline
471
0:23:51,600 --> 0:23:55,360
and as the styles kept changing,
the hits kept coming.
472
0:23:56,640 --> 0:23:57,800
# Make everything alright
473
0:23:57,960 --> 0:24:1,280
By 1984,
Madonna was an established pop act,
474
0:24:1,440 --> 0:24:3,320
following up
her breakthrough hit, Holiday,
475
0:24:3,480 --> 0:24:5,400
with the equally catchy Lucky Star.
476
0:24:5,560 --> 0:24:8,280
# You must be my lucky star
477
0:24:8,440 --> 0:24:12,680
Her sound and image had inspired
other female artists...
478
0:24:14,80 --> 0:24:17,800
..and soon rivals, like Cyndi Lauper,
were vying to take her place.
479
0:24:17,960 --> 0:24:21,0
# Girls, they wanna have fun
480
0:24:21,160 --> 0:24:24,160
Madonna knew she had to hit back.
481
0:24:24,320 --> 0:24:27,520
Her next release, Borderline,
hit the top ten.
482
0:24:27,680 --> 0:24:29,880
# Borderline
483
0:24:30,40 --> 0:24:33,760
But behind the scenes, she was
working on something much bigger.
484
0:24:33,920 --> 0:24:38,240
ROB DICKINS: With Madonna,
all of the hit singles
were building blocks.
485
0:24:38,400 --> 0:24:40,920
We were building a success route,
486
0:24:41,80 --> 0:24:43,520
and it got bigger
and bigger and bigger
487
0:24:43,680 --> 0:24:48,80
to make her into
the huge star she became.
488
0:24:48,240 --> 0:24:51,0
The key to that stardom
arrives later that year,
489
0:24:51,160 --> 0:24:54,840
with a track that was to smash away
convention, confront controversy,
490
0:24:55,0 --> 0:24:58,800
and put Madonna in an unassailable
position in global pop.
491
0:24:58,960 --> 0:25:0,400
Hi, we're in New York,
492
0:25:0,560 --> 0:25:4,520
and here's a song from my new album,
entitled Like A Virgin.
493
0:25:4,680 --> 0:25:7,600
# Like a virgin
494
0:25:7,760 --> 0:25:12,40
# Touched for the very first time
495
0:25:12,200 --> 0:25:15,880
# Like a virgin
496
0:25:16,40 --> 0:25:19,720
Like A Virgin broke Madonna
on a worldwide stage.
497
0:25:19,880 --> 0:25:24,320
Holiday had been her breakthrough,
but this was her golden ticket.
498
0:25:24,480 --> 0:25:27,440
Like A Virgin was Madonna's
first number one hit.
499
0:25:27,600 --> 0:25:32,400
It's really one of the more
fascinating songs in pop history.
500
0:25:32,560 --> 0:25:34,880
MATTHEW: Hearing Like A Virgin
for the first time was a shock,
501
0:25:35,40 --> 0:25:39,0
because the word 'virgin'
wasn't really used on the radio.
502
0:25:39,160 --> 0:25:40,760
Like A Virgin? Like a what?
503
0:25:40,920 --> 0:25:43,240
Excuse me, lady? Like A Virgin?
504
0:25:43,400 --> 0:25:45,440
You know, those days
are gone for you.
505
0:25:45,600 --> 0:25:47,120
(ETERNAL FLAME BY THE BANGLES PLAYS)
506
0:25:47,280 --> 0:25:50,200
Like a Virgin came from the pens
of Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly,
507
0:25:50,360 --> 0:25:53,200
the celebrated duo
behind a string of top ten hits
508
0:25:53,360 --> 0:25:55,560
for other artists across the '80s.
509
0:25:55,720 --> 0:25:58,240
# Say my name
510
0:25:58,400 --> 0:26:3,240
Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly
co-wrote so many great
'80s pop songs.
511
0:26:3,400 --> 0:26:5,560
I'm thinking about
I Drove All Night.
512
0:26:5,720 --> 0:26:6,960
True Colors was another one.
513
0:26:7,120 --> 0:26:8,760
Such deft songwriting.
514
0:26:8,920 --> 0:26:13,80
# True colors are shining through
515
0:26:13,240 --> 0:26:16,840
Steinberg and Kelly had never worked
with Madonna before,
516
0:26:17,0 --> 0:26:19,360
and they didn't compose the track
with her in mind.
517
0:26:19,520 --> 0:26:25,720
The song tells the story about
how I extricated myself
518
0:26:25,880 --> 0:26:29,80
from a very difficult relationship
519
0:26:29,240 --> 0:26:34,600
and found myself in a new,
joyous relationship,
520
0:26:34,760 --> 0:26:38,840
which made me feel shiny and new.
521
0:26:39,0 --> 0:26:44,80
# Yeah, you made me feel
shiny and new
522
0:26:44,240 --> 0:26:46,600
Like a virgin.
523
0:26:46,760 --> 0:26:49,240
# Hey
Like a virgin
524
0:26:49,400 --> 0:26:51,120
KATIE: I was really surprised
to find out
525
0:26:51,280 --> 0:26:52,400
that it was written by a man
526
0:26:52,560 --> 0:26:54,520
reflecting on a time in his life
527
0:26:54,680 --> 0:26:57,200
when he'd come out of
a bad relationship
528
0:26:57,360 --> 0:26:59,760
and was sort of
finding his mojo again.
529
0:26:59,920 --> 0:27:3,560
I did feel
when I came up with the title
530
0:27:3,720 --> 0:27:9,360
that I had something special
and something a bit irreverent,
531
0:27:9,520 --> 0:27:14,280
and something that
would tickle people's imaginations,
532
0:27:14,440 --> 0:27:17,480
and sense of the word 'virgin'.
533
0:27:17,640 --> 0:27:21,640
I kind of got that,
that it would be provocative.
534
0:27:21,800 --> 0:27:23,640
With the risque chorus completed,
535
0:27:23,800 --> 0:27:25,880
Billy and songwriting partner
Tom Kelly
536
0:27:26,40 --> 0:27:28,40
began working on
the rest of the track.
537
0:27:28,200 --> 0:27:33,40
We didn't find the right direction
for the music immediately,
538
0:27:33,200 --> 0:27:36,200
and then he started to play
a bass line
539
0:27:36,360 --> 0:27:40,440
that resembled I Can't Help Myself
by The Four Tops.
540
0:27:51,400 --> 0:27:56,640
He was playing that baseline,
I propped the lyrics on the piano,
541
0:27:56,800 --> 0:28:0,760
and he started singing falsetto
"I made it through the wilderness",
542
0:28:0,920 --> 0:28:2,840
"Somehow I made it through".
543
0:28:3,0 --> 0:28:6,680
TOM KELLY: (SINGS FALSETTO)
# I made it through the wilderness
544
0:28:6,840 --> 0:28:10,240
# Somehow I made it through
545
0:28:13,0 --> 0:28:18,240
# Didn't know how lost I was
until I found you
546
0:28:19,680 --> 0:28:24,360
I said, "That's it," and then
the song quickly wrote itself.
547
0:28:24,520 --> 0:28:27,800
It may only have been a demo
version, but Tom Kelly's falsetto
548
0:28:27,960 --> 0:28:31,200
became the blueprint
for Madonna's final vocal.
549
0:28:31,360 --> 0:28:35,880
An interesting part of it
is the fade at the end of the demo,
550
0:28:36,40 --> 0:28:43,40
because you can really hear how
she copied all Tom's ad libs
551
0:28:43,200 --> 0:28:45,120
as our demo was fading out.
552
0:28:46,680 --> 0:28:48,720
# And you hold me
553
0:28:48,880 --> 0:28:51,40
# And you love me
554
0:28:51,200 --> 0:28:54,120
# Oh, oh, ohh
555
0:28:54,280 --> 0:28:57,800
Madonna just basically
lifted the whole performance.
556
0:28:57,960 --> 0:29:0,240
Like, she just copied it
from beginning to end,
557
0:29:0,400 --> 0:29:4,800
including all of the little sighs
and oohs and aahs,
558
0:29:4,960 --> 0:29:8,560
and even just some things that are
said on the outro of the record.
559
0:29:8,720 --> 0:29:11,840
I mean, that's how perfectly
conceived it was,
560
0:29:12,0 --> 0:29:13,800
from songwriting to demo.
561
0:29:13,960 --> 0:29:16,360
Brilliantly conceived
but tough to sell.
562
0:29:16,520 --> 0:29:19,240
When Steinberg and Kelly
completed their track,
563
0:29:19,400 --> 0:29:21,40
almost no-one would touch it.
564
0:29:21,200 --> 0:29:25,640
We started to play the song
for various A&R people
565
0:29:25,800 --> 0:29:31,800
at different record companies,
and we did get the response
566
0:29:31,960 --> 0:29:37,600
that no-one would ever sing a song
titled Like A Virgin.
567
0:29:37,760 --> 0:29:43,360
But fortunately,
it was perfect for one singer,
568
0:29:43,520 --> 0:29:45,280
and her name was Madonna.
569
0:29:45,440 --> 0:29:48,240
# Like a virgin
570
0:29:48,400 --> 0:29:49,560
Madonna has so many talents,
571
0:29:49,720 --> 0:29:53,320
and one of them is to know
when a song is right for her,
572
0:29:53,480 --> 0:29:55,120
and somebody from the record company
573
0:29:55,280 --> 0:29:59,640
presented Like A Virgin to her in
the demo form, and she went crazy.
574
0:29:59,800 --> 0:30:2,720
Everything about it
was right for Madonna.
575
0:30:2,880 --> 0:30:7,680
It feels like there is no other
singer in the world
576
0:30:7,840 --> 0:30:10,320
that could have sung that song.
577
0:30:10,480 --> 0:30:11,920
# Oh, freak out!
578
0:30:13,320 --> 0:30:16,760
With Like A Virgin chosen by an
excited Madonna as her next track,
579
0:30:16,920 --> 0:30:21,320
Chic's legendary guitarist Nile
Rodgers was brought in to produce.
580
0:30:21,480 --> 0:30:24,40
But initially he had his doubts
about the track.
581
0:30:24,200 --> 0:30:26,0
Nile Rodgers, he wasn't sure.
582
0:30:26,160 --> 0:30:31,160
He was like, "It's kinda a weird
hook to sing 'like a virgin',
and I'm not really..."
583
0:30:31,320 --> 0:30:34,200
She was like, "No, this is...
Trust me, this is absolutely it."
584
0:30:34,360 --> 0:30:35,640
And she was right.
585
0:30:35,800 --> 0:30:37,720
Once Rodgers overcame his doubts,
586
0:30:37,880 --> 0:30:41,520
he and Madonna shared the studio
for every moment of the production,
587
0:30:41,680 --> 0:30:43,320
including some awkward ones.
588
0:30:43,480 --> 0:30:47,200
She came up to him and said,
"Do you think I'm sexy?"
589
0:30:47,360 --> 0:30:49,320
and he responded, "Well, of course,"
you know?
590
0:30:49,480 --> 0:30:53,40
"You're one of the most attractive
people I've ever seen."
591
0:30:53,200 --> 0:30:56,320
And then she said, "Well, why
haven't you tried to sleep with me?"
592
0:30:56,480 --> 0:30:58,680
and then stormed out of the studio.
593
0:30:58,840 --> 0:31:1,960
It was just her way of
kinda like goofing around,
594
0:31:2,120 --> 0:31:6,40
but also kinda keeping him on edge.
595
0:31:6,200 --> 0:31:7,560
# You're so fine
596
0:31:7,720 --> 0:31:10,160
Whatever the studio tensions,
the results were worth it.
597
0:31:10,320 --> 0:31:13,160
For Madonna, it was the song
that changed everything.
598
0:31:13,320 --> 0:31:15,680
Like A Virgin, for her,
599
0:31:15,840 --> 0:31:22,560
was the moment where everybody
who thought she was a passing fad
600
0:31:22,720 --> 0:31:26,680
realised that actually this woman,
she's a game changer.
601
0:31:26,840 --> 0:31:29,560
JOE: She went from being
a potentially big star
602
0:31:29,720 --> 0:31:32,560
to being a huge, huge star.
603
0:31:32,720 --> 0:31:36,920
# Like a virgin
604
0:31:37,80 --> 0:31:38,160
# With your heartbeat
605
0:31:38,320 --> 0:31:40,920
Helping the song provide
maximum punch, the video.
606
0:31:41,80 --> 0:31:43,120
The sexually charged performance
607
0:31:43,280 --> 0:31:45,880
was the template
for many more videos to come,
608
0:31:46,40 --> 0:31:48,480
and this time,
along the canals of Venice.
609
0:31:48,640 --> 0:31:50,920
KATIE: She's writhing around
in a gondola,
610
0:31:51,80 --> 0:31:54,0
going through a tunnel
and coming out the other side.
611
0:31:54,160 --> 0:31:56,920
I mean, that's just so ham-fisted
and so on the nose.
612
0:31:57,80 --> 0:32:1,0
I think what this tells us about
Madonna is she just loves to shock.
613
0:32:1,160 --> 0:32:2,840
She lives to shock.
614
0:32:3,0 --> 0:32:6,920
That was the first time
she was thought of as outrageous,
615
0:32:7,80 --> 0:32:9,280
and that really lit a fuse,
616
0:32:9,440 --> 0:32:13,440
so for that, it was really
an important record.
617
0:32:13,600 --> 0:32:17,480
DAVID: In music, at this point,
what you really didn't have
618
0:32:17,640 --> 0:32:23,40
is a female artist who didn't look
as though, or sound as though,
619
0:32:23,200 --> 0:32:26,80
they were interested in romance.
620
0:32:26,240 --> 0:32:29,0
You look at this video,
the performance,
621
0:32:29,160 --> 0:32:33,40
and Madonna, who was sexy
on her previous stuff,
622
0:32:33,200 --> 0:32:36,240
suddenly becomes Madonna
who is sexual,
623
0:32:36,400 --> 0:32:38,360
and there's a big difference.
624
0:32:38,520 --> 0:32:43,120
Sexy is "like me and I'm pretty
and I look great, don't I?"
625
0:32:43,280 --> 0:32:46,80
Sexual is "I'm in control".
626
0:32:46,240 --> 0:32:48,120
# Like a virgin
627
0:32:48,280 --> 0:32:51,480
# Feels so good inside
628
0:32:51,640 --> 0:32:53,320
Like A Virgin was the first moment
629
0:32:53,480 --> 0:32:55,320
in the rise
of the Madonna phenomenon
630
0:32:55,480 --> 0:32:59,0
that we see her using the shock value
of unashamed sexuality
631
0:32:59,160 --> 0:33:2,280
and the power of controversy
to create record sales -
632
0:33:2,440 --> 0:33:5,560
something she will continue
to do across her career.
633
0:33:5,720 --> 0:33:7,320
I like to provoke people.
634
0:33:7,480 --> 0:33:9,520
I don't think about
the danger of it.
635
0:33:9,680 --> 0:33:12,440
And if there is a dangerous element,
that is exciting to me.
636
0:33:12,600 --> 0:33:15,760
The single will supreme at the top
of the billboard chart
637
0:33:15,920 --> 0:33:17,680
for a phenomenal six weeks.
638
0:33:17,840 --> 0:33:19,720
It was certified gold in the US
639
0:33:19,880 --> 0:33:22,640
and went on to be
a massive worldwide hit.
640
0:33:22,800 --> 0:33:25,160
MATTHEW: I think Madonna became
a pop cultural icon
641
0:33:25,320 --> 0:33:27,280
the moment Like A Virgin
was released.
642
0:33:27,440 --> 0:33:30,600
As soon as that song hit the
airwaves, there was no turning back.
643
0:33:31,600 --> 0:33:34,0
Like A Virgin took Madonna
to the next level.
644
0:33:34,160 --> 0:33:35,840
The songwriters Steinberg and Kelly
645
0:33:36,0 --> 0:33:39,240
had helped her find the superstardom
she'd always dreamed of.
646
0:33:39,400 --> 0:33:42,200
But when they saw her at a party
some time later,
647
0:33:42,360 --> 0:33:44,120
there was little appreciation.
648
0:33:44,280 --> 0:33:47,800
We see at the other end
of the terrace
649
0:33:47,960 --> 0:33:51,560
Madonna walking out of the house
towards us,
650
0:33:51,720 --> 0:33:56,880
and she was with Warren Beatty,
and I thought to myself,
651
0:33:57,40 --> 0:34:1,640
"This is the perfect opportunity
to meet Madonna finally,"
652
0:34:1,800 --> 0:34:4,440
and a guy we knew said to Madonna,
653
0:34:4,600 --> 0:34:9,560
"Madonna, I would like you to meet
Tom Kelly and Billy Steinberg,
654
0:34:9,720 --> 0:34:12,0
"who wrote Like A Virgin."
655
0:34:12,160 --> 0:34:14,520
And Warren Beatty started to laugh,
656
0:34:14,680 --> 0:34:18,40
and I think he was laughing
because he thought, you know,
657
0:34:18,200 --> 0:34:22,280
of course she must know the guys
that wrote Like A Virgin -
658
0:34:22,440 --> 0:34:24,560
it must be some kind of a spoof.
659
0:34:24,720 --> 0:34:27,720
I stepped up and I said to Madonna,
660
0:34:27,880 --> 0:34:31,800
"I've wanted to meet you
for so long,"
661
0:34:31,960 --> 0:34:37,200
and she said to me,
"Well, now you did,"
662
0:34:37,360 --> 0:34:40,880
and she grabbed Warren Beatty
and walked off.
663
0:34:41,40 --> 0:34:45,360
So, she wasn't particularly, uh...
cordial, shall we say.
664
0:34:45,520 --> 0:34:46,880
# Material girl
665
0:34:47,40 --> 0:34:49,760
As was the case
from the beginning of her career,
666
0:34:49,920 --> 0:34:52,480
Madonna's eyes were fixed
only on the future
667
0:34:52,640 --> 0:34:54,160
and her next incarnation -
668
0:34:54,320 --> 0:34:56,320
recalling Hollywood's
ultimate blonde bombshell
669
0:34:56,480 --> 0:34:58,680
and featuring the song
and iconic video
670
0:34:58,840 --> 0:35:1,840
that would come to symbolise
not just Madonna's pulling power,
671
0:35:2,0 --> 0:35:3,640
but a whole global decade.
672
0:35:3,800 --> 0:35:5,440
Material Girl.
673
0:35:5,600 --> 0:35:8,40
# And I am a material girl
674
0:35:9,920 --> 0:35:14,480
The mid-1980s saw free market
economics sweep across the west.
675
0:35:14,640 --> 0:35:18,160
You too can become leaders in this
great new era of progress,
676
0:35:18,320 --> 0:35:20,280
the age of the entrepreneur.
677
0:35:20,440 --> 0:35:24,600
Britain is confident,
strong, and trusted.
678
0:35:24,760 --> 0:35:27,800
In the booming financial centres
of New York and London,
679
0:35:27,960 --> 0:35:31,520
fortunes were made fast
and spent even faster.
680
0:35:31,680 --> 0:35:35,320
For the lucky ones, the consumption
had never been more conspicuous.
681
0:35:35,480 --> 0:35:38,320
This was the Ronald Reagan era,
the "greed is good".
682
0:35:38,480 --> 0:35:40,0
Dynasty is huge on TV.
683
0:35:40,160 --> 0:35:42,360
Everyone's into more, more, more.
684
0:35:42,520 --> 0:35:43,800
KATIE: In America in 1985,
685
0:35:43,960 --> 0:35:47,840
it was all about big hair,
big shoulder pads, big wallet,
686
0:35:48,0 --> 0:35:49,840
all of that kind of thing.
687
0:35:50,0 --> 0:35:52,40
The new era
demanded its own soundtrack,
688
0:35:52,200 --> 0:35:54,0
and Madonna
was the one to provide it,
689
0:35:54,160 --> 0:35:57,600
with a song that would finally cement
her superstar status.
690
0:35:59,520 --> 0:36:2,720
# Some boys kiss me,
some boys hug me
691
0:36:2,880 --> 0:36:5,480
# I think they're OK
692
0:36:5,640 --> 0:36:8,80
If there was ever a song
that summed up an artist
693
0:36:8,240 --> 0:36:11,520
that captured an attitude
of the time,
694
0:36:11,680 --> 0:36:13,360
that was a moment.
695
0:36:13,520 --> 0:36:17,160
# 'Cause we are living
in a material world
696
0:36:17,320 --> 0:36:20,160
# And I am a material girl
697
0:36:20,320 --> 0:36:24,760
Material Girl saw Madonna reunite
with production genius Nile Rodgers.
698
0:36:24,920 --> 0:36:27,200
Right on the one there,
give me a nice fall off.
699
0:36:27,360 --> 0:36:28,600
(SINGS MELODY FROM MATERIAL GIRL)
700
0:36:28,760 --> 0:36:31,120
And to help him create another
irresistibly catchy hit,
701
0:36:31,280 --> 0:36:34,840
he brought in one of his
most trusted backing artists.
702
0:36:35,0 --> 0:36:36,80
# OK
703
0:36:36,240 --> 0:36:39,400
# If they don't give me
proper credit
704
0:36:39,560 --> 0:36:42,80
# I just walk away
(SINGS ALONG)
705
0:36:42,240 --> 0:36:46,880
Well, in 1983, my brother George
and I were asked to sing
706
0:36:47,40 --> 0:36:51,560
on David Bowie's Let's Dance album,
produced by Nile Rodgers.
707
0:36:51,720 --> 0:36:53,40
And we did that.
708
0:36:53,200 --> 0:36:54,840
We toured with David Bowie
around the world.
709
0:36:55,0 --> 0:36:59,480
And as soon as we got back,
Nile Rodgers called us again
710
0:36:59,640 --> 0:37:2,960
and told us he needed us
to sing background vocals
711
0:37:3,120 --> 0:37:7,80
on a new record he was producing
by a young girl named Madonna.
712
0:37:7,240 --> 0:37:8,560
Well, Nile is a local guy,
713
0:37:8,720 --> 0:37:11,840
and he had a New York attitude,
New York tastes,
714
0:37:12,0 --> 0:37:17,800
and Madonna too was very connected
to Nile's modus operandi.
715
0:37:17,960 --> 0:37:20,280
Nile has a great atmosphere
around him,
716
0:37:20,440 --> 0:37:22,880
and Madonna was very involved
as well.
717
0:37:23,40 --> 0:37:26,240
You saw when you just sat in the
studio that she had an opinion.
718
0:37:26,400 --> 0:37:28,120
She wasn't a produced act.
719
0:37:28,280 --> 0:37:31,520
She was certainly learning
the craft, as she does everything.
720
0:37:31,680 --> 0:37:33,960
She looks at other people,
she soaks it all in.
721
0:37:34,120 --> 0:37:37,680
Nile is so giving,
she was absorbing.
722
0:37:38,680 --> 0:37:40,680
Despite her new-found stardom,
723
0:37:40,840 --> 0:37:43,360
Madonna's vocals
were still developing,
724
0:37:43,520 --> 0:37:46,400
and for this track,
Rodgers knew she needed help.
725
0:37:46,560 --> 0:37:48,840
She wasn't that skilled a singer,
726
0:37:49,0 --> 0:37:52,160
so we background vocalists,
you know, kind of helped her out
727
0:37:52,320 --> 0:37:54,920
and gave her some pointers
and kind of moved her around
728
0:37:55,80 --> 0:37:56,360
and told her what to do,
729
0:37:56,520 --> 0:37:58,960
so she was learning from everybody,
I think.
730
0:37:59,120 --> 0:38:1,320
Well, if you want to use
a scale of, like,
731
0:38:1,480 --> 0:38:3,560
I'm going gonna go from one to ten,
732
0:38:3,720 --> 0:38:5,480
maybe she's at like a two or three.
733
0:38:5,640 --> 0:38:9,680
She wasn't bad, but certainly
had a long way to go.
734
0:38:9,840 --> 0:38:14,160
I wouldn't say that she actually
fully discovered her voice
until later.
735
0:38:14,320 --> 0:38:19,320
Over this period of time, what
Madonna did is she found her sound.
736
0:38:19,480 --> 0:38:21,800
She reinforced it, she imprinted it
737
0:38:21,960 --> 0:38:25,360
and when people criticised it,
she gave them more of it.
738
0:38:25,520 --> 0:38:28,40
(MATERIAL GIRL PLAYS)
# I am a material girl
739
0:38:28,200 --> 0:38:29,880
# You know that we are living
740
0:38:30,40 --> 0:38:32,640
# Living in a material world
741
0:38:32,800 --> 0:38:35,40
# And
# I am a material girl
742
0:38:35,200 --> 0:38:37,240
It was the song's
distinct lyrical pattern
743
0:38:37,400 --> 0:38:39,560
that made it such a challenge
for the singer.
744
0:38:39,720 --> 0:38:43,160
Material Girl has a lot of
beeps, blips and bloops,
745
0:38:43,320 --> 0:38:46,80
and it kinda chugs along
in an electronic fashion.
746
0:38:46,240 --> 0:38:48,440
There's these, like, robot men.
747
0:38:48,600 --> 0:38:51,720
(ROBOTICALLY) # Living
in a material world
748
0:38:51,880 --> 0:38:55,440
# Material
# Living in a material world
749
0:38:55,600 --> 0:38:59,920
It's playful, it's boppy but it's
also relentless at the same time -
750
0:39:0,80 --> 0:39:2,320
a little bit like Madonna herself.
751
0:39:2,480 --> 0:39:4,720
Despite needing help
with her vocals,
752
0:39:4,880 --> 0:39:6,160
Madonna, true to form,
753
0:39:6,320 --> 0:39:9,240
made sure everyone in the studio
knew their place.
754
0:39:9,400 --> 0:39:10,680
Every time there was a break,
755
0:39:10,840 --> 0:39:14,280
and we'd be going right back
to re-recording or whatever,
756
0:39:14,440 --> 0:39:16,560
you know, Madonna would say,
"OK, boys.
757
0:39:16,720 --> 0:39:19,720
"Time is money,
and the money is mine."
758
0:39:19,880 --> 0:39:21,520
You know, so that got to be
like a slogan,
759
0:39:21,680 --> 0:39:23,960
so when she wasn't around,
we'd say, "Yeah, Madonna,
760
0:39:24,120 --> 0:39:26,760
"remember, time is money
and the money is hers."
761
0:39:26,920 --> 0:39:28,600
But by the end of the session,
762
0:39:28,760 --> 0:39:32,400
she and everyone else knew they had
another hit on their hands.
763
0:39:32,560 --> 0:39:35,360
We finished Material Girl and we
went back in the listening room -
764
0:39:35,520 --> 0:39:37,640
it sounded great, you know,
everybody loved it.
765
0:39:37,800 --> 0:39:40,40
We were laughing,
laughing, laughing.
766
0:39:40,200 --> 0:39:42,560
Madonna was laughing her stones off,
you know,
767
0:39:42,720 --> 0:39:45,160
and it was just like, "Oh, God,
this is ridiculous.
768
0:39:45,320 --> 0:39:46,880
"People are gonna love this."
769
0:39:47,40 --> 0:39:50,120
With the recording complete,
it now had to be promoted.
770
0:39:50,280 --> 0:39:53,80
For the video, featuring
big-name actor Keith Carradine,
771
0:39:53,240 --> 0:39:54,760
Madonna chose to play tribute
772
0:39:54,920 --> 0:39:58,400
to fellow blonde bombshell
of yesteryear, Marilyn Monroe.
773
0:39:58,560 --> 0:40:3,40
She would be taking on one of her
most iconic 1950s performances,
774
0:40:3,200 --> 0:40:6,480
and with it
her characteristics and costume
775
0:40:6,640 --> 0:40:11,360
from the American musical comedy
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.
776
0:40:11,520 --> 0:40:14,360
I didn't know her personally,
but I admire her. She's an idol.
777
0:40:14,520 --> 0:40:16,520
Do you wanna be as big
a movie star as she was?
778
0:40:16,680 --> 0:40:17,840
Is that important?
Yeah.
779
0:40:18,0 --> 0:40:23,240
Mary Lambert, the director of
Material Girl, really did a fine job
780
0:40:23,400 --> 0:40:26,160
of re-creating
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes,
781
0:40:26,320 --> 0:40:28,800
the Diamonds Are A Girl's
Best Friend scene.
782
0:40:28,960 --> 0:40:32,920
(ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYS,
VOCALS INAUDIBLE)
783
0:40:33,80 --> 0:40:36,520
Any time you're dressing up
like another performer,
784
0:40:36,680 --> 0:40:38,720
especially someone as iconic
as Marilyn Monroe,
785
0:40:38,880 --> 0:40:40,760
it's kind of embarrassing at times,
786
0:40:40,920 --> 0:40:44,80
because the original
swallows up the imitator.
787
0:40:44,240 --> 0:40:47,440
But I think Madonna had
such supreme confidence
788
0:40:47,600 --> 0:40:50,0
that she's able
to take Marilyn Monroe
789
0:40:50,160 --> 0:40:52,240
and use her for her own purposes
790
0:40:52,400 --> 0:40:54,520
in a way
that respects Marilyn Monroe
791
0:40:54,680 --> 0:40:58,0
but that leaves Madonna herself
intact.
792
0:40:58,160 --> 0:41:2,480
# Some boys kiss me,
some boys hug me
793
0:41:2,640 --> 0:41:5,480
For many, Material Girl
was a wholesale celebration
794
0:41:5,640 --> 0:41:7,480
of '80s consumerism.
795
0:41:7,640 --> 0:41:11,200
But as the video hinted,
it was actually a subtle criticism.
796
0:41:11,360 --> 0:41:13,240
In the Material Girl video,
797
0:41:13,400 --> 0:41:15,160
Madonna wants to be the sugar daddy.
798
0:41:15,320 --> 0:41:16,720
She's the breadwinner.
799
0:41:16,880 --> 0:41:19,360
The video includes someone
who is trying to attract
800
0:41:19,520 --> 0:41:21,120
her attention romantically.
801
0:41:21,280 --> 0:41:22,840
Yeah, he's still after me.
802
0:41:23,0 --> 0:41:24,440
He just gave me a necklace.
803
0:41:24,600 --> 0:41:26,400
I don't know.
I think it's real diamonds.
804
0:41:26,560 --> 0:41:27,560
# Material
805
0:41:27,720 --> 0:41:30,360
When he tries to show off
how wealthy and important he is,
806
0:41:30,520 --> 0:41:32,80
she has no interest in him.
807
0:41:32,240 --> 0:41:33,840
It's only when he humbles himself,
808
0:41:34,0 --> 0:41:36,120
when he picks her up
in this beat-up pickup truck,
809
0:41:36,280 --> 0:41:38,200
that she even gives him
the time of day.
810
0:41:38,360 --> 0:41:40,800
So, there's an irony about it
in the video and the song
811
0:41:40,960 --> 0:41:43,240
that was kind of lost
on a lot of people.
812
0:41:43,400 --> 0:41:45,560
Her message
may have been misunderstood,
813
0:41:45,720 --> 0:41:47,400
but at the time, it didn't matter.
814
0:41:47,560 --> 0:41:51,720
Material Girl's success put Madonna
exactly where she wanted to be.
815
0:41:51,880 --> 0:41:55,80
She started the year in 1985
as a rising star,
816
0:41:55,240 --> 0:42:0,680
she ended 1985 as the biggest
female artist in the world,
817
0:42:0,840 --> 0:42:4,160
and this - this video, this song -
818
0:42:4,320 --> 0:42:7,800
was the moment
when we knew this was happening.
819
0:42:7,960 --> 0:42:12,520
KATIE: It cemented her as a force
to be reckoned with.
820
0:42:12,680 --> 0:42:15,160
You understood that this...
she was a juggernaut.
821
0:42:15,320 --> 0:42:16,960
# Get into the groove
822
0:42:17,120 --> 0:42:19,80
Madonna was now officially
a megastar,
823
0:42:19,240 --> 0:42:21,880
and that year would go on to release
several more singles
824
0:42:22,40 --> 0:42:23,720
from her Like A Virgin album,
825
0:42:23,880 --> 0:42:27,120
all of which entered
the US Billboard chart top five.
826
0:42:27,280 --> 0:42:30,560
Musical success was followed
by movie success, as she co-starred
827
0:42:30,720 --> 0:42:33,640
in the critically acclaimed
1985 comedy drama
828
0:42:33,800 --> 0:42:35,640
Desperately Seeking Susan.
829
0:42:35,800 --> 0:42:38,280
And to cap the then-most-eventful
year of her life,
830
0:42:38,440 --> 0:42:42,200
she married Hollywood actor
Sean Penn on her 27th birthday.
831
0:42:42,360 --> 0:42:45,160
Madonna created a whole
new way to be a celebrity,
832
0:42:45,320 --> 0:42:50,920
and especially to be
a young female famous person.
833
0:42:51,80 --> 0:42:55,240
This is someone who, you know,
at every step of her career,
834
0:42:55,400 --> 0:42:56,640
was told not to do things,
835
0:42:56,800 --> 0:42:58,840
but always stuck to her gut
and her guns.
836
0:42:59,0 --> 0:43:1,720
Madonna actually tore up
the old book of rules
837
0:43:1,880 --> 0:43:5,40
that said a female artist
had to be demure,
838
0:43:5,200 --> 0:43:8,280
had to at least appear
to not be in charge.
839
0:43:8,440 --> 0:43:11,560
She says, "No, I'm gonna do exactly
what I want, when I want,"
840
0:43:11,720 --> 0:43:15,200
and there's something really
inspiring and empowering about that.
841
0:43:16,320 --> 0:43:19,720
Madonna had started her career
as a broke dance-school drop-out
842
0:43:19,880 --> 0:43:21,160
on the streets of New York
843
0:43:21,320 --> 0:43:24,440
and with just three songs
in three years,
844
0:43:24,600 --> 0:43:28,40
she had become a cultural icon
who defined a generation.
845
0:43:29,800 --> 0:43:32,880
KATIE: Early '80s Madonna
kind of sums up, for me,
846
0:43:33,40 --> 0:43:35,160
some of the best things
about the '80s.
847
0:43:35,320 --> 0:43:38,720
# You're so fine and you're mine
848
0:43:38,880 --> 0:43:42,360
She presumed that success
would be hers, you know,
849
0:43:42,520 --> 0:43:44,520
and that's a very '80s idea -
850
0:43:44,680 --> 0:43:48,640
that even if you start out
with certain limitations
and inadequacies,
851
0:43:48,800 --> 0:43:50,400
you can overcome them.
852
0:43:50,560 --> 0:43:52,440
So, she embodies that.
853
0:43:52,600 --> 0:43:56,320
# Material
MEN: # Living in a material world
854
0:43:56,480 --> 0:43:59,0
That was her revolution.
That's what she brought.
855
0:43:59,160 --> 0:44:2,240
And I think she's really the first
modern pop superstar,
856
0:44:2,400 --> 0:44:3,720
for that reason.
857
0:44:3,880 --> 0:44:7,560
DAVID: In 1982, Madonna was
an unknown but up and coming.
858
0:44:7,720 --> 0:44:11,40
By 1985, there wasn't anywhere
you could go in the world
859
0:44:11,200 --> 0:44:12,800
where people
hadn't heard of Madonna.
860
0:44:12,960 --> 0:44:16,680
In three years, she transformed
not just her career,
861
0:44:16,840 --> 0:44:18,320
but she transformed pop.
862
0:44:30,320 --> 0:44:33,320
Captions by Red Bee Media
(c) SBS Australia 2021
65356
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.