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[woman] How was that?
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{\an8}[man] Now, a very pretty legato,
very pretty melody.
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{\an8}You like that?
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{\an8}I like that.
But it's gotta be harder, you know,
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{\an8}when we write the lyric to it,
it will be different.
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[vocalizing]
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[man 2]
When I met Carole back in New York,
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{\an8}I was shaking in my shoes
'cause I knew all about Goffin and King,
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{\an8}the legendary songwriting team.
And I knew how great they were.
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And she was a brilliant arranger
and had arranged a lot of singles
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for the Drifters and other big acts.
So she really knew her stuff.
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{\an8}[man 3] Carole came from New York
to California probably around '68.
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{\an8}She had, uh, recently been separated
from Gerry Goffin,
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{\an8}and I guess it was the beginnings
of her new life.
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{\an8}In those days
I didn't really write lyrics.
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{\an8}Didn't need to. After we got divorced,
I needed to. [chuckles]
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And I really wondered if I could do it,
but I guess I did.
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[applause]
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That was the beginning of my career
as a solo writer.
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[playing "You've Got A Friend"]
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{\an8}♪ When you're down and troubled ♪
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♪ And you need some loving care ♪
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♪ And nothing, nothing is going right ♪
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[Kortchmar] What was expressed in that
song is something that everyone feels,
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{\an8}and everyone would like someone
to feel about them.
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{\an8}That was also one of her first lyrics.
As a way to start, it's pretty incredible.
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[King] Songwriting became
my place of identification.
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I did find that place through my music
where I was really happy.
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♪ You just call out my name ♪
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♪ And you know wherever I am ♪
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♪ I'll come running ♪
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♪ To see you again ♪
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[Adler] Carole King, Cat Stevens,
James Taylor,
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Joni Mitchell, Elton John.
Singer-songwriters.
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{\an8}You could put a name on the genre.
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{\an8}They were basically poets
that could put their poems to music.
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{\an8}[man] I don't think you'll ever see a
creative burst like that musically again.
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{\an8}You could probably buy ten albums a week
that became pretty classic albums.
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I mean, that's astonishing.
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♪ Ain't it good to know
You've got a friend ♪
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[woman] That was always my optimism.
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{\an8}That if I described my own changes through
whatever the decade was throwing at us,
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that there were others like me.
And it turns out that there were.
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[vocalizes]
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♪ You've got a friend ♪
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[audience cheers]
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[camera shutters clicking]
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[man] The dream's over.
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{\an8}-[man 2] In 1971...
-[woman] Music said something.
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[protesters chant]
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[woman] The world was changing.
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{\an8}[man 3]
We were creating the 21st century in 1971.
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[radio: chimes sounding]
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[female announcer] Welcome
to Los Angeles, supercity of the future
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metropolis of Southern California.
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[Adler] In 1971, the industry had shifted
from New York to California.
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It was just so appealing.
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Up in Laurel Canyon
you could get the feeling
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of being in the country
five minutes away from the Sunset Strip.
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["California" playing]
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♪ Sitting in a park in Paris, France ♪
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♪ Reading the news and it's all bad ♪
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♪ They won't give peace a chance ♪
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♪ That was just a dream some of us had ♪
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♪ Still a lot of lands to see ♪
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♪ But I wouldn't want to stay here ♪
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♪ It's too old and cold
And settled in its ways here ♪
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♪ Oh, but California ♪
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♪ California, I'm coming home ♪
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♪ I'm going to see the folks I dig ♪
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♪ I'll even kiss a Sunset pig ♪
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♪ California, when I get home ♪
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{\an8}[Mitchell] When I first got here,
I remember driving around
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{\an8}up in the canyons in Crosby's car
with the good stereo.
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{\an8}It reminded me of cottages at the lake.
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There were no sidewalks.
There were no regimented lines.
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The ruralness, having lived in New York
and then come here,
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having trees in the yard, you know,
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having ducks in my neighbor's yard
floating around on the pond.
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{\an8}[woman] There was very much
a neighborhood culture.
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{\an8}You went over to somebody's house, you
took your guitar and you played together.
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{\an8}Musicians do that.
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♪ But he kept my camera to sell
Oh, the rogue, the red, red rogue ♪
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{\an8}[man] I was living in Laurel Canyon,
and it was fantastic. I was in heaven.
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Laurel Canyon in my mind
was beautiful women, freedom,
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sunshine, great dope, much creation.
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♪ I'm coming home ♪
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♪ Oh, make me feel good
Rock 'n' roll band ♪
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♪ I'm your biggest fan ♪
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♪ California, I'm coming home ♪
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[Mitchell] When I realized how popular
I was becoming, it was right before Blue.
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Oh, my God,
a lot of people are listening to me.
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Well, then they better find out
who they're worshipping.
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Let's see if they can take it.
Let's get real.
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So I wrote Blue, which horrified a lot
of people, 'cause it was a man's world.
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Kris Kristofferson went,
"Joni, keep something of yourself."
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'Cause it was unprecedented
in its vulnerability in a certain way,
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but it was all I was capable of.
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This is a song that isn't really
finished, you know.
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It needs another verse to it still,
but, um, it's got a little bit of it there
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and, uh, when I go home late at night,
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this is a song that I really like to sing
right now, so I'll play it for you.
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♪ My old man ♪
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♪ He's a singer in the park ♪
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♪ He's a walker in the rain ♪
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{\an8}[Nash] The album that Joni made,
called Blue, is a brilliant album,
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{\an8}but a little painful for me.
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{\an8}I'd just broken up with Joni.
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♪ We don't need no piece of paper
From the city hall ♪
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♪ Keeping us tied and true, no ♪
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♪ My old man ♪
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♪ Keeping away my blues ♪
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♪ But when he's gone ♪
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♪ Me and them lonesome blues collide ♪
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♪ The bed's too big ♪
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♪ The frying pan's too wide ♪
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[Nash] She was writing from her heart
to her fellow women
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and these other people called men.
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I think that's what makes it
so incredibly relevant.
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[Mitchell] They all recoiled
because the game was
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to make yourself larger than life.
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Don't reveal anything human,
and my thing is why?
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♪ But he comes home ♪
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♪ And he takes me in his loving arms ♪
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♪ And he tells me all his troubles ♪
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♪ And he tells me all my charms ♪
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[Ronstadt] Joni Mitchell was redefining
the way people write songs.
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{\an8}You write about what you feel, what you're
thinking, what you're going through.
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{\an8}And that was her way of trying
to process that sadness.
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{\an8}[woman] She wanted to get
to the heart of things.
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{\an8}And she wasn't afraid
of getting to the heart of things.
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{\an8}But hearing that from a woman,
it felt very exposed.
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And I'm not sure that people
were all that comfortable at the time.
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[applause]
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♪ Good morning, Mrs. Jones ♪
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♪ You certainly got your laundry
Clean and white ♪
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♪ Better than clean, better than white ♪
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{\an8}[together]
♪ Bold's extra power gets clothes bright ♪
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{\an8}[Mrs. Jones] I'm sold on Bold.
[audio distorts]
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[Atlas]
It was really the very traditional role
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that the husband went out to work
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and the wife was really educated
but she was devoted to her home.
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I mean, the happiest you could be was you
found a cleaner for the floor. [chuckles]
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♪ Another Pleasant Valley Sunday ♪
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And this was the traditional
suburban household
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that was put forth
in terms of mainstream media.
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[Mitchell] We were raised on Disney,
"Someday My Prince Will Come."
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{\an8}We came up in affluence.
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{\an8}Our mothers had bought in
to the white picket fence,
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{\an8}but the wives were unhappy.
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The home contained,
for the most part, unhappy women.
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{\an8}You lost a little weight, did ya?
You look--
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{\an8}-I don't know. I don't know.
-You look awfully, uh...
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-Thin?
-Awfully thin.
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-Haggard.
-No...
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{\an8}[Atlas] American Family
was the very daring documentary film
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{\an8}where you see this journey of a woman,
who was raised pretty traditionally,
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realize that her marriage
was not what she thought it was.
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-My face fall off? [chuckles]
-No, you got a little Vaseline on it.
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[both chuckling]
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[Atlas] She came out of that time
when the expectation of women
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{\an8}of her education and her economic class,
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{\an8}it was to get married and stay married.
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And all of a sudden, it was like,
"Oh, my heavens. What's gonna happen?
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Is she really gonna leave her husband?"
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Great. Is she in town?
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Is she in town now, Marline,
or, uh, is she just going through?
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[woman] Who, Milly? She's in town.
Oh, you should see her. My God, she's--
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[Pat Loud] What do you care for, Bill?
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[Bill Loud] Oh, I-- [laughs] Whoop.
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I just wanna authenticate everything, Pat.
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And make sure that we have
all our records straight.
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[woman chuckles]
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Well, for the record,
she's just passing through.
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[laughter]
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[Kortchmar] We watched what looked like
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{\an8}a very normal Californian family
in Santa Barbara.
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{\an8}There was a lot of skeletons
in the closet,
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and this kind of ripped the veneer
off the polite American family.
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And that's what made it
such an important document at the time.
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We all watched it every week.
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♪ Looking out on the morning rain ♪
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{\an8}[woman] We really were holding up
a mirror to our society in 1971.
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{\an8}And people saw themselves.
They really did.
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[speaks indistinctly]
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{\an8}♪ Oh, when my soul
Was in the lost and found ♪
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♪ You came along to claim it ♪
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[woman 2] Carole King's Tapestry.
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{\an8}My brother Lance
introduced that album to me, of course,
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{\an8}'cause he was sort of the pioneer
of the music scene.
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{\an8}We played it over and over again.
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You know, as a young woman,
I just remember being mesmerized by it.
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♪ I didn't know
Just what was wrong with me ♪
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♪ Till your kiss helped me name it ♪
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♪ Now I'm no longer doubtful ♪
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♪ Of what I'm living for ♪
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♪ 'Cause if I make you happy
I don't need to do more ♪
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{\an8}[King] "Natural Woman"
was written with Gerry Goffin,
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{\an8}and then recorded by Aretha Franklin
based on a demo that I did.
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But I wanted to record it myself
in the very simple way that I did.
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♪ You make me feel ♪
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♪ Like a natural ♪
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♪ Woman ♪
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[Kortchmar] The breakup with Gerry,
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did you find it difficult
to write about it?
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[King]
I didn't find it difficult to write about
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because, in fact, writing about it
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gave me that opportunity
to put it in perspective
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and to remember not only
my personal feelings as a woman,
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but we were gonna last forever.
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We were gonna live happily ever after.
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{\an8}[Atlas] When she made that sea change
to write for herself,
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{\an8}songs that she was going to sing,
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{\an8}obviously that meant a lot to her
personally.
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And that was very powerful.
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♪ You make me feel ♪
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♪ Like a natural ♪
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♪ Natural woman ♪
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♪ You make me feel ♪
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♪ You know you make me feel ♪
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[man] I was mixing
one of the last tunes on the album.
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{\an8}Lou came down to listen to it.
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{\an8}And then I looked at him and I said, "Gee,
Lou, is this as good as I think it is?"
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{\an8}And he said, "Yeah,
I think we got a good shot with this."
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♪ Woman ♪
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{\an8}[Kortchmar] There's no question that
people turned to Tapestry for comfort.
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{\an8}The authenticity,
the sincerity of emotion.
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They would recognize somebody
that they felt understood them.
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[King] The single incident
that made me a performer
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was James Taylor pushing me out onstage.
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James Taylor
was gonna open at the Troubadour,
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and they asked me to be his opening act.
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[man] Hello, I'd like to welcome you
to the Troubadour this evening.
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Any of you who don't know me,
my name is Doug Weston.
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[applause]
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{\an8}[Kortchmar] At that point, the Troubadour
was the only game in town.
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{\an8}It was the perfect place
for a singer-songwriter
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{\an8}to debut their act in Los Angeles.
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Carole was very reluctant to perform.
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She was terribly shy about performing,
getting onstage.
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[King]
I had my act really carefully worked out,
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and I knew exactly what I was gonna do.
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And at the end of my third number,
I hear this voice coming over a speaker.
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A disembodied voice saying...
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[woman, on PA] Carole, we're going
to have to ask everybody to leave.
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There's been a report that there's a bomb.
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[King] And I'm saying,
"As long as it's not me!"
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And everybody laughed,
and the tension was broken,
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and what I learned that night was that
the audience want me to be myself.
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That was the thing that put me over
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into being the person you see onstage now.
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♪ You've got to get up every morning
With a smile on your face ♪
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♪ And show the world
All the love in your heart ♪
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[Kortchmar] That period of time
at the Troubadour between '70, '71, '72,
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everyone played there.
Cat Stevens played there.
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Elton John of course made his famous debut
there with just a trio.
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And tore the hell out of the place.
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{\an8}[man] A lot of people have started their
careers there. Joni Mitchell played there.
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{\an8}They all thought that I was gonna be
a typical, um, singer-songwriter.
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{\an8}♪ And the future you're giving me
Holds nothing for a gun ♪
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{\an8}♪ I've no wish to be living 60 years on ♪
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[John] The shock of me coming out,
playing "Sixty Years On"
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in hot pants and a starry T-shirt
and big wing boots.
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They weren't ready for that.
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I think people were expecting to see
a very shy young man.
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And we just rocked the house away.
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{\an8}[Adler] The crowd, which was
a very music business crowd,
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{\an8}also realized that here's a major star.
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It was an awakening
to what this performer was.
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How he could perform
as a singer-songwriter.
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This was a new dimension
of singer-songwriting.
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[John]
It just happened on the first night.
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The next day we got
incredible press reviews.
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And it just spread across America.
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And the album went soaring up
in the charts,
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and it just happened from there.
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We happened in America first,
before we happened in England.
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-[man] Does this surprise you?
-I wasn't ready for it.
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I thought we might be
quite successful in America,
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but never as successful as that.
It just happened so quickly.
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[John] We were so high on being in LA.
It looked so glamorous.
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The cars were glamorous.
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The sheer excitement of being able
to go to a record store.
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Buy American vinyl.
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The quality of the albums was astounding.
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You could buy Miles Davis.
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You could buy Marvin Gaye
or Stevie Wonder.
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There was so much going on.
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You know, anything we did
at that point was so exciting.
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Meet these people. Hear American accents.
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Just everything I watched as a kid
on The Liberace Show,
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on The Andy Williams Show.
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There it was. Right in front of my eyes.
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And we were all like kids
in a candy store, I can tell you.
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{\an8}Ladies and gentlemen, a few months ago
a young man came over from England.
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{\an8}And he shot right to the top
of the pop music field.
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{\an8}His first album is a hit.
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His first single is a hit.
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-And I hate him.
-[audience laughs]
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No, I really like him.
I mean I really like him.
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[audience laughs]
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And here he is,
ladies and gentlemen, Elton John.
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[applause]
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[playing "Your Song"]
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{\an8}♪ It's a little bit funny ♪
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{\an8}♪ This feeling inside ♪
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{\an8}♪ I'm not one of those
Who can easily hide ♪
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♪ I don't have much money
But, boy, if I did ♪
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♪ I'd buy a big house
Where we both could live ♪
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Elton John, a remarkable man
from the world of pop,
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whom some would claim to be Britain's
newest musical superstar.
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Elton John and his lyric-writing partner,
Bernie Taupin,
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could well be the most inventive
and original team of songwriters
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since Lennon and McCartney.
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♪ I hope you don't mind
I hope you don't mind ♪
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♪ That I put down in words ♪
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♪ How wonderful life is ♪
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♪ While you're in the world ♪
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[John] I'd never really heard my record
on the radio before,
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and so when I started to hear
"Your Song" on the radio,
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it was like a dream.
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♪ But the sun's been quite kind ♪
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♪ While I wrote this song ♪
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♪ It's for people like you ♪
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♪ That keep it turned on ♪
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[John] It was a very,
very hardworking journey.
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I mean, it was pedal to the metal.
You know, we were all over the place.
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{\an8}♪ How wonderful life is ♪
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{\an8}♪ While you're in the world ♪
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[song continues]
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[song ends]
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[cheers, applause]
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Thank you! God bless you, Fillmore!
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Ah, well then.
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[cheering, applause continues]
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[John] It was essential for my career
that I went to America
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because, basically,
that's where my music comes from.
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[male announcer] This is the Chelsea Hotel
in New York City
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{\an8}where Lance Loud has been living
for the past two months.
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{\an8}He's sharing a room with a friend
named Soren Agenoux.
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They are awaiting the arrival
of Pat Loud, Lance's mother.
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[Lance] Because, for one thing, I want to
make sure we get into that play tonight.
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{\an8}[Pat Loud]
I instinctively knew Lance was gay,
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{\an8}although the word never came up.
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{\an8}But it was pretty clear.
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Lance, from the time he was, like, 13,
was nuts about Andy Warhol.
347
00:21:17,236 --> 00:21:19,946
And he had quite a correspondence
with him.
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[Lance Loud] Sitting here talking to--
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{\an8}[Atlas] Lance Loud didn't conform
to what people expected of young men then.
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-Hello. How are you?
-[woman] Kiss me quickly.
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[Atlas] Seeing him reflected
in a series like that on television,
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there'd never been anything
like that before.
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And it took a while
for anything to be like that again.
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And it was very powerful.
355
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{\an8}[Pat Loud] I hadn't been hardly any place.
I'd been in Oregon and California.
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{\an8}And when they said "Chelsea Hotel,"
357
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I thought,
"Oh, that's a nice little English place.
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And there'll be just
a charming little old lady
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taking care of it at the front desk."
360
00:21:56,817 --> 00:22:01,607
So, I walk in there and I get almost
knocked over by the scent of marijuana.
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[receptionist]
Yes, uh, what's the name, please?
362
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I guess I should dress up or something--
I need--
363
00:22:07,077 --> 00:22:10,367
-I keep feeling like I should just--
-Lance? Get over here.
364
00:22:10,455 --> 00:22:11,995
Hello. [kisses]
365
00:22:12,791 --> 00:22:14,961
-How are you?
-Fine.
366
00:22:15,043 --> 00:22:17,553
-I couldn't even find you.
-[Lance] Oh, this is Soren.
367
00:22:17,629 --> 00:22:19,129
-Hi.
-Hi, Soren. How are you doing?
368
00:22:19,214 --> 00:22:20,594
Nice to meet you.
369
00:22:20,674 --> 00:22:22,184
-I thought--
-You look really nice.
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I thought you were going to come
down and be in the lobby,
371
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and I got down there
and you weren't there.
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-You look so nice. Yeah.
-Thank you, love.
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00:22:29,766 --> 00:22:33,436
Well, it's certainly a surprise. I was
just going to go upstairs to see you.
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I thought you were...
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[Pat Loud] Lance wasn't like anybody
I've ever known.
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He was difficult beyond belief,
but he was a fascinating person.
377
00:22:41,945 --> 00:22:44,275
[Lance] We're going to the, uh,
La MaMa Theatre tonight.
378
00:22:44,364 --> 00:22:45,784
-We--
-What play?
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00:22:45,866 --> 00:22:47,616
Vain Victory with Jackie Curtis.
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It's the ultimate of the underground,
you'll just think it's so neat.
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-[Soren] You'd like it.
-Yeah.
382
00:22:51,872 --> 00:22:54,372
Ondine and all the underground stars
are in it. It's a big play.
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All these wonderful people
I haven't even heard of.
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00:22:56,793 --> 00:22:59,883
All the people you-- Oh, I know, hey!
But you've dreamed of them.
385
00:22:59,963 --> 00:23:02,303
[chuckles] Do you wanna go upstairs?
386
00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:03,932
-Mm-hmm.
-Okay.
387
00:23:04,009 --> 00:23:06,139
I hope that my room
is as elegant as yours.
388
00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:08,260
My dear, it's much more elegant.
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-[Pat Loud] We'll see you later, Soren.
-[Soren] Okay. Nice meeting you.
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[Pat Loud] The first person I meet
in the hotel is a very famous drag queen.
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Holly! This is my mother. This is Holly.
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[Pat Loud] Holly Woodlawn, who was
in a lot of Andy Warhol's movies.
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00:23:22,152 --> 00:23:24,152
Oh, we-- we're gonna be back in a second.
394
00:23:24,238 --> 00:23:25,318
-Okay, fine.
-Okay.
395
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{\an8}[Holly Woodlawn] My friends called me up
and said, "Oh, turn on the radio.
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{\an8}Because Lou Reed
just wrote a song about you."
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{\an8}[Lou Reed]
♪ Holly came from Miami, FLA ♪
398
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{\an8}♪ Hitchhiked her way across the USA ♪
399
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[Woodlawn] And then we went to a party.
400
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And he was there.
And he was in the corner.
401
00:23:49,513 --> 00:23:52,313
He was a shy, quiet guy.
402
00:23:53,183 --> 00:23:56,403
So I asked him,
"How do you know so much about me?"
403
00:23:57,145 --> 00:24:02,145
He said, "Holly,
because you have a big mouth." [chuckles]
404
00:24:03,569 --> 00:24:06,199
Because all he said
was, you know, the truth.
405
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,070
I plucked my eyebrows and shaved my legs.
406
00:24:09,157 --> 00:24:12,037
And, uh, became a "she."
407
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,619
♪ In the back room
She was everybody's darling ♪
408
00:24:16,957 --> 00:24:21,497
He was surrounded by that
because of the Factory,
409
00:24:21,587 --> 00:24:23,957
the Warhol crowd, and all that.
410
00:24:24,047 --> 00:24:26,587
So I think he's just, uh,
411
00:24:27,342 --> 00:24:30,142
sort of, I don't wanna say "voyeuristic,"
412
00:24:30,220 --> 00:24:36,230
but I, you know, he just wrote songs
about what he saw and knew.
413
00:24:40,981 --> 00:24:44,611
When Lou wrote "Walk on the Wild Side,"
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he made me immortal.
415
00:24:54,286 --> 00:24:57,406
[Lance] There are all those different
individual little cells of people,
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and they're all famous and all, like--
417
00:25:01,293 --> 00:25:05,883
Now that I look back at my life,
I keep thinking, like, you know,
418
00:25:05,964 --> 00:25:11,684
when I was 13, I-- I don't know,
it was like being a little mouse
419
00:25:11,762 --> 00:25:14,812
and trapped in a box in some--
in a little quiet room--
420
00:25:14,890 --> 00:25:17,390
I'm not saying that we led such, you know,
421
00:25:17,476 --> 00:25:20,646
a super average, ordinary life, but--
422
00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:22,809
But you went into your room one year
423
00:25:22,898 --> 00:25:24,978
and you didn't come out
for about two more years.
424
00:25:25,067 --> 00:25:26,067
[chuckles] I know.
425
00:25:26,151 --> 00:25:27,991
Except at night
when you lurched out the window.
426
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:30,030
I know, but it was all frustration,
you know.
427
00:25:30,113 --> 00:25:33,873
I felt so frustrated at being--
I don't know, it--
428
00:25:33,951 --> 00:25:35,791
There--
There's always been something in me
429
00:25:35,869 --> 00:25:38,409
that I could never understand, but, um--
430
00:25:38,497 --> 00:25:41,167
[Pat Loud] Well, you were pretty hard
to understand, yourself.
431
00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:45,250
♪ I said, "Hey, babe
Take a walk on the wild side" ♪
432
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-Is the close-up just a part of it?
-[Lance] Yeah.
433
00:25:52,553 --> 00:25:55,813
[sings indistinctly]
434
00:25:55,889 --> 00:25:59,059
♪ Jackie is just speeding away ♪
435
00:26:00,644 --> 00:26:03,734
♪ Thought she was James Dean for a day ♪
436
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,820
♪ Then I guess she had to crash
Valium would have helped that bash ♪
437
00:26:09,903 --> 00:26:12,823
{\an8}[Raymond]
I think people's jaws fell on the floor.
438
00:26:12,906 --> 00:26:18,246
{\an8}And it was all presented to you as, "Mom's
visit to New York." You know? [chuckles]
439
00:26:18,328 --> 00:26:20,538
Uh, can-- c--
Is there some place around here
440
00:26:20,622 --> 00:26:22,882
that I can get some food and cook for you?
441
00:26:22,958 --> 00:26:26,548
-[kisses] Uh. We'll find that later.
-[Soren] Come on, let's go.
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{\an8}[man] One of the things that was pretty
radical for its time about the series
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{\an8}was that being gay, homosexual, in 1971,
444
00:26:35,971 --> 00:26:37,431
was pretty shocking.
445
00:26:37,514 --> 00:26:40,234
The family didn't disown him,
446
00:26:40,309 --> 00:26:43,229
and in fact, I think in some ways,
447
00:26:43,312 --> 00:26:46,942
Pat became the gold standard of gay moms.
448
00:26:47,024 --> 00:26:49,324
[speaking indistinctly]
449
00:26:49,401 --> 00:26:53,781
{\an8}[Atlas] She was so open and willing
to see things differently
450
00:26:53,864 --> 00:26:56,914
{\an8}than, perhaps, the way
she was raised to see things.
451
00:26:56,992 --> 00:27:00,622
{\an8}It was a huge eye-opener
for a lot of people in 1971.
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00:27:01,288 --> 00:27:02,708
[chuckles]
453
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:05,379
{\an8}[John] People were being very brave
because they felt they could.
454
00:27:05,459 --> 00:27:08,249
{\an8}You know, I grew up in the '50s,
you couldn't say boo to a goose.
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00:27:08,337 --> 00:27:11,007
{\an8}People, behind their curtains,
they were gossiped about.
456
00:27:11,089 --> 00:27:12,879
You couldn't get divorced.
You couldn't, you know.
457
00:27:12,966 --> 00:27:14,886
If you were pregnant, you were sent away.
458
00:27:14,968 --> 00:27:17,138
The '60s opened up the possibilities,
459
00:27:17,221 --> 00:27:20,311
and in the '70s
it just went straight the way.
460
00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:22,940
And I think that had a lot to do
with people's creativity,
461
00:27:23,018 --> 00:27:26,518
and I think it had a lot to do with people
thinking, "Listen, I can do anything."
462
00:27:27,356 --> 00:27:29,856
[man] We're here to let America know
that we exist.
463
00:27:29,942 --> 00:27:32,112
We're not a myth of any type.
464
00:27:32,194 --> 00:27:33,494
{\an8}The early 1970s
465
00:27:33,570 --> 00:27:37,990
{\an8}was about particular socially excluded
and marginalized groups of people
466
00:27:38,075 --> 00:27:40,115
coming together to defend who they were.
467
00:27:40,202 --> 00:27:42,202
And to demand their place in the sun.
468
00:27:42,287 --> 00:27:45,167
We want the freedoms.
The freedoms to love in public,
469
00:27:45,249 --> 00:27:47,379
that belong to the heterosexuals
in this country.
470
00:27:47,459 --> 00:27:48,839
And we're going to have them.
471
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:55,219
[John] I never had a problem. I just
thought everyone knew that I was gay.
472
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:59,470
I was living with my manager who was gay.
The costumes, you know.
473
00:27:59,555 --> 00:28:01,385
[man] When he became Elton John,
474
00:28:01,473 --> 00:28:05,443
{\an8}he was rebelling against everything
he wasn't allowed to do as a child.
475
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:07,729
{\an8}He was escaping this repression
476
00:28:07,813 --> 00:28:10,153
that was forced upon him
when he was younger.
477
00:28:10,232 --> 00:28:11,982
[John sings indistinctly]
478
00:28:12,067 --> 00:28:14,437
[John] But it wasn't to do with being gay
as much as saying,
479
00:28:14,528 --> 00:28:17,198
"I'm just gonna push the envelope
and have as much fun."
480
00:28:17,281 --> 00:28:18,871
And also, I'm stuck at a piano.
481
00:28:18,949 --> 00:28:21,029
You have to do something with a piano.
It's a plank.
482
00:28:21,118 --> 00:28:23,658
-Rock and roll!
-[audience cheering]
483
00:28:26,498 --> 00:28:27,958
[camera shutter clicking]
484
00:28:28,709 --> 00:28:29,709
Whoo!
485
00:28:29,793 --> 00:28:32,553
[John] I think that's what
the early '70s were all about.
486
00:28:32,629 --> 00:28:35,259
The incredible feeling of
"Nothing's impossible.
487
00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:36,930
There are no rules."
488
00:28:37,009 --> 00:28:41,679
{\an8}They might think that Elton John is, like,
an old guy that comes and sits down
489
00:28:41,763 --> 00:28:44,643
{\an8}and plays his piano and sings his songs.
490
00:28:44,725 --> 00:28:46,475
{\an8}But he's not really, you see.
491
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,190
-I'm a lunatic.
-He's, um, a raving lunatic. [laughs]
492
00:28:49,271 --> 00:28:51,111
-[interviewer] What did you say?
-I'm a lunatic.
493
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:53,650
{\an8}[vocalizes]
494
00:29:00,407 --> 00:29:02,487
Uh, I just get influenced by some people.
495
00:29:02,576 --> 00:29:05,246
I mean, everybody has their idols
and their influences.
496
00:29:05,329 --> 00:29:09,289
And you-- I-- I listen to a lot of records
and subconsciously they must influence me.
497
00:29:09,374 --> 00:29:11,674
Not consciously.
I haven't sort of sat down and said,
498
00:29:11,752 --> 00:29:14,052
"I must write a song like Bob Dylan
or Leon Russell."
499
00:29:14,129 --> 00:29:16,799
But subconsciously it might come out
sounding a bit like that.
500
00:29:16,882 --> 00:29:20,302
[man] So Bernie Taupin is not absolutely
necessary for your piano playing?
501
00:29:20,385 --> 00:29:23,555
Oh, God, you're joking. Yes, he is.
He's very necessary.
502
00:29:23,639 --> 00:29:26,019
'Cause I-- I don't like singing
other people's songs.
503
00:29:26,099 --> 00:29:29,519
[stammers] Let's-- First and foremost,
we're songwriters, we're not artists.
504
00:29:29,603 --> 00:29:31,233
I didn't wanna ever appear onstage.
505
00:29:31,313 --> 00:29:33,363
I just wanted to sit back,
make the records,
506
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,530
and, uh, you know, just be very lazy.
507
00:29:36,610 --> 00:29:38,900
[cheers, applause]
508
00:29:38,987 --> 00:29:41,367
I thought it only fair
that I should introduce Bernie Taupin,
509
00:29:41,448 --> 00:29:44,368
-who never really faces his public.
-[applause]
510
00:29:47,162 --> 00:29:49,582
And without Bernie
there wouldn't be any songs, anyway.
511
00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:54,213
One here that I've sort of done
the other day
512
00:29:54,294 --> 00:29:58,424
called "Tiny Dancer,"
which is about Bernie's girlfriend.
513
00:29:58,507 --> 00:30:02,967
Uh, and it's-- It just sort of--
just sort of felt like--
514
00:30:03,053 --> 00:30:05,813
I looked through all the lyrics
and that was the one I fancied writing.
515
00:30:05,889 --> 00:30:08,059
Reg has to write very fast
because he can't, sort of--
516
00:30:08,141 --> 00:30:11,351
He hasn't got the patience
to sort of spend hours or days
517
00:30:11,436 --> 00:30:13,896
on something, you know.
I mean, that's-- that's Reg.
518
00:30:13,981 --> 00:30:16,231
Yeah, I mean-- [stammers]
You look at it, the words.
519
00:30:16,316 --> 00:30:19,816
Uh, "Blue jean baby, LA lady,
seamstress for the band.
520
00:30:19,903 --> 00:30:23,033
Pretty-eyed, pirate smile,
you'll marry a music man. Ballerina."
521
00:30:23,115 --> 00:30:25,525
As soon as you get to the word "ballerina"
you know it's not gonna be fast.
522
00:30:25,617 --> 00:30:26,907
It's gotta be sort of gentle.
523
00:30:26,994 --> 00:30:29,124
[playing "Tiny Dancer"]
524
00:30:30,873 --> 00:30:36,883
♪ Blue jean baby, LA lady ♪
525
00:30:38,213 --> 00:30:41,553
{\an8}♪ Seamstress for the band ♪
526
00:30:44,219 --> 00:30:46,389
♪ Pretty-eyed ♪
527
00:30:47,431 --> 00:30:49,471
♪ Pirate smile ♪
528
00:30:51,685 --> 00:30:54,435
♪ You'll marry a music man ♪
529
00:30:57,858 --> 00:31:00,738
♪ Ballerina ♪
530
00:31:00,819 --> 00:31:03,319
♪ You must've seen her ♪
531
00:31:05,282 --> 00:31:08,042
♪ Dancing in the sand ♪
532
00:31:08,118 --> 00:31:11,458
[Tatchell] I can understand why he didn't
come out in that particular period.
533
00:31:11,538 --> 00:31:15,078
{\an8}Because the potential damage
to his career
534
00:31:15,167 --> 00:31:19,167
{\an8}thanks to homophobic record companies,
producers, promoters,
535
00:31:19,254 --> 00:31:22,344
{\an8}review editors and so on,
could have been quite devastating.
536
00:31:24,218 --> 00:31:27,138
♪ Piano man ♪
537
00:31:27,221 --> 00:31:29,641
♪ He makes his stand ♪
538
00:31:31,225 --> 00:31:34,305
♪ In the auditorium ♪
539
00:31:34,394 --> 00:31:37,944
[man] I think what Elton sang
was Elton's music.
540
00:31:38,023 --> 00:31:42,153
{\an8}And it was reflective
of what was going on inside of him.
541
00:31:42,236 --> 00:31:47,486
{\an8}It wasn't about being gay, it was about
being expressive and individual.
542
00:31:47,574 --> 00:31:52,164
I didn't care what he said he was.
He was heroic in my book.
543
00:31:54,831 --> 00:31:57,211
♪ Oh, how it feels so real ♪
544
00:31:57,292 --> 00:32:00,252
♪ Lying here with no one near ♪
545
00:32:00,337 --> 00:32:05,047
♪ Only you, and you can hear me ♪
546
00:32:05,926 --> 00:32:08,846
♪ When I say softly ♪
547
00:32:10,305 --> 00:32:12,215
♪ Slowly ♪
548
00:32:14,768 --> 00:32:18,648
♪ Hold me closer, tiny dancer ♪
549
00:32:20,983 --> 00:32:25,203
♪ Count the headlights on the highway ♪
550
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,659
{\an8}[Mixner]
We were allowed to live a gay lifestyle
551
00:32:27,739 --> 00:32:29,279
{\an8}as long as we didn't tell anybody.
552
00:32:29,366 --> 00:32:32,906
{\an8}We were allowed to be effeminate.
We were allowed to dress like Elton.
553
00:32:32,995 --> 00:32:35,405
{\an8}I mean, you know,
if you don't believe Liberace's gay,
554
00:32:35,497 --> 00:32:39,747
{\an8}you can get away with a lot. [laughs]
555
00:32:39,835 --> 00:32:41,495
How do you like my hot pants, Art?
556
00:32:41,587 --> 00:32:43,297
Sensational. Where'd you get 'em?
557
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:47,090
I've had hot pants
since I was 12 years old.
558
00:32:47,176 --> 00:32:48,506
Oh, join the club.
559
00:32:48,594 --> 00:32:53,224
{\an8}[Tatchell] I'd say that 1971 was a year
of revolutionary consciousness
560
00:32:53,307 --> 00:32:57,637
{\an8}among a whole series of marginalized,
disadvantaged groups
561
00:32:57,728 --> 00:32:59,478
who'd been excluded from the mainstream.
562
00:32:59,563 --> 00:33:01,983
That wasn't just LGBT people,
563
00:33:02,065 --> 00:33:06,525
but also women asserting their right
to be women and their right to equality.
564
00:33:08,530 --> 00:33:10,450
[male reporter]
I haven't read your book yet
565
00:33:10,532 --> 00:33:14,582
but I'm told it's very interesting
and also highly readable.
566
00:33:14,661 --> 00:33:18,251
Considering the subject,
what is its main thrust?
567
00:33:18,332 --> 00:33:23,252
{\an8}It's really an attempt to describe
the situation of women
568
00:33:23,337 --> 00:33:25,627
{\an8}in a way free of jargon
569
00:33:25,714 --> 00:33:30,514
or academic pretentiousness
but without condescension.
570
00:33:30,594 --> 00:33:34,684
So that women could understand
in a hopeful way
571
00:33:35,432 --> 00:33:37,982
and not a frightening way
572
00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:41,310
that everything could be otherwise.
573
00:33:42,356 --> 00:33:46,186
That they could become architects
of a new life.
574
00:33:46,276 --> 00:33:52,946
{\an8}♪ I am on a lonely road
And I am traveling ♪
575
00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:57,503
♪ Looking for the truth in men and in me ♪
576
00:33:59,164 --> 00:34:01,504
{\an8}[Greer] Women saw what I was driving at,
577
00:34:01,583 --> 00:34:05,003
{\an8}and they took the message
that they weren't crazy.
578
00:34:05,087 --> 00:34:08,467
The fact that they had the ideal life
and were hating it
579
00:34:08,549 --> 00:34:12,549
and half dead in it
suddenly became okay to say.
580
00:34:12,636 --> 00:34:16,506
♪ Oh, you're not real, no, no ♪
581
00:34:16,598 --> 00:34:19,808
♪ Do you think you're fooling me ♪
582
00:34:19,893 --> 00:34:23,153
♪ With these false pretensions ♪
583
00:34:23,230 --> 00:34:29,570
♪ Of phony camaraderie ♪
584
00:34:30,779 --> 00:34:31,779
[hums]
585
00:34:31,864 --> 00:34:33,874
[Tatchell]
We, in the Gay Liberation Front,
586
00:34:33,949 --> 00:34:39,369
{\an8}very much identified with the message of
Germaine Greer's book, The Female Eunuch.
587
00:34:39,454 --> 00:34:43,424
{\an8}We saw a correlation between sexism
and homophobia.
588
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:47,300
That it was a certain type
of macho straight man
589
00:34:47,379 --> 00:34:50,379
who oppressed both women and LGBT people.
590
00:34:50,465 --> 00:34:55,845
♪ All I really, really wanted love to do ♪
591
00:34:55,929 --> 00:35:01,389
♪ Was to bring out the best in me
And in you too ♪
592
00:35:02,019 --> 00:35:04,689
[male announcer] The Female Eunuch,
Germaine Greer.
593
00:35:04,771 --> 00:35:06,901
The woman who has written
what is now called
594
00:35:06,982 --> 00:35:10,992
by The New York Times
"The best feminist book so far."
595
00:35:11,069 --> 00:35:14,109
Anyone want a signed copy
of The Female Eunuch?
596
00:35:14,198 --> 00:35:16,408
[man] I would like to ask Germaine Greer,
597
00:35:16,491 --> 00:35:20,081
I really don't know what women
are asking for.
598
00:35:20,162 --> 00:35:22,622
Now suppose I wanted to give it to them...
599
00:35:22,706 --> 00:35:24,786
-[audience clamors]
-[Greer] Listen, you may as well relax
600
00:35:24,875 --> 00:35:27,785
because whatever it is they're asking for,
honey, it's not for you.
601
00:35:27,878 --> 00:35:30,168
-[man] Now--
-[audience laughs]
602
00:35:30,255 --> 00:35:34,465
{\an8}[Pat Loud] She just made you stop
and say, "Yeah, she's right."
603
00:35:34,551 --> 00:35:39,471
{\an8}We even gave up our family names
and took our husband's last names
604
00:35:39,556 --> 00:35:42,516
and look what a fucking mess
they made of the whole thing.
605
00:35:44,937 --> 00:35:47,267
[female narrator]
What is the matter with all these women?
606
00:35:47,356 --> 00:35:48,976
[baby crying]
607
00:35:49,066 --> 00:35:51,816
They are being asked to accept
and to be happy
608
00:35:51,902 --> 00:35:54,742
in a way of life
which is out of date and frustrating.
609
00:35:56,281 --> 00:36:00,201
When one lonely wife complained
of feeling like an aging Cinderella,
610
00:36:00,285 --> 00:36:02,535
her agony column adviser told her
611
00:36:02,621 --> 00:36:06,041
that though her husband
could not be expected to change,
612
00:36:06,124 --> 00:36:08,174
she could change herself.
613
00:36:08,252 --> 00:36:10,342
[Bill Loud] That's feta cheese.
614
00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:12,210
[Pat Loud] Well, don't put it in there.
615
00:36:12,297 --> 00:36:14,257
-Where do you-- Where do you put it?
-Huh?
616
00:36:14,341 --> 00:36:15,721
Where would you put the cheese?
617
00:36:15,801 --> 00:36:18,471
If it's a cheese, it goes
in the cheese container, doesn't it?
618
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,309
{\an8}[Pat Loud]
I had personal problems with Bill.
619
00:36:23,392 --> 00:36:26,272
{\an8}Bill was screwing around quite a bit
620
00:36:26,353 --> 00:36:30,903
and it made me feel rejected and ugly.
621
00:36:30,983 --> 00:36:32,403
I was, like, 45.
622
00:36:32,484 --> 00:36:35,654
And I didn't think I had
any future whatsoever.
623
00:36:35,737 --> 00:36:38,277
And I was pretty, well, lost.
624
00:36:39,825 --> 00:36:41,695
[Bill Loud] How is your dancing?
625
00:36:41,785 --> 00:36:43,995
Fun. Last week I had a private lesson.
626
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:45,619
No one showed up, just me.
627
00:36:45,706 --> 00:36:47,876
So I had a private tap lesson.
It was so much fun.
628
00:36:47,958 --> 00:36:51,418
[Pat Loud] One of my motivations
to do An American Family
629
00:36:51,503 --> 00:36:55,673
was that maybe some of these women
that he was having affairs with
630
00:36:55,757 --> 00:36:59,637
would see that he had a lovely family
631
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:05,520
and say, "Well, I feel guilty.
I'm not going to pursue that anymore."
632
00:37:05,601 --> 00:37:07,021
I was very naive.
633
00:37:08,812 --> 00:37:11,692
[Atlas] Pat Loud imagined
that she would have
634
00:37:11,773 --> 00:37:14,693
{\an8}this kind of Hallmark card kind of life.
635
00:37:14,776 --> 00:37:18,656
{\an8}And then circumstances, as it has done
for many, many women,
636
00:37:18,739 --> 00:37:19,949
changed that for her.
637
00:37:20,032 --> 00:37:22,452
And she had to have that awakening
638
00:37:22,534 --> 00:37:25,454
and find the strength within herself
to forge a different life.
639
00:37:25,537 --> 00:37:28,457
[Bill Loud]
I do know that. I do know that.
640
00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:31,960
And I can talk to you because I not only
feel friendly to you, you know,
641
00:37:32,044 --> 00:37:35,264
I got amorance towards you, besides.
642
00:37:35,339 --> 00:37:38,339
-Oh, you're so full of shit.
-[laughs] Uh...
643
00:37:38,425 --> 00:37:40,635
{\an8}[Greer] In most marriages,
you make allowances,
644
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,969
{\an8}you try to fit in,
you try to make it work,
645
00:37:43,055 --> 00:37:46,885
{\an8}you try to keep it happy and calm,
and fulfilled and all,
646
00:37:46,975 --> 00:37:48,845
and then one day you think,
"You know what?"
647
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,600
[Pat Loud] Ha ha.
648
00:37:52,147 --> 00:37:54,897
"Too Late Now." You know that song?
649
00:37:54,983 --> 00:37:58,113
That Carole King song? Too late, baby!
650
00:38:02,282 --> 00:38:05,912
["It's Too Late" playing]
651
00:38:11,416 --> 00:38:16,756
{\an8}♪ Stayed in bed all morning
Just to pass the time ♪
652
00:38:16,839 --> 00:38:21,759
{\an8}♪ There's something wrong here
There can be no denying ♪
653
00:38:21,844 --> 00:38:28,144
♪ One of us is changing
Or maybe we've just stopped trying ♪
654
00:38:31,645 --> 00:38:35,645
♪ And it's too late, baby, now
It's too late ♪
655
00:38:35,732 --> 00:38:39,612
Well, I'm really tired.
I'm going to get that dinner for you.
656
00:38:39,695 --> 00:38:42,655
-[Bill Loud] Sounds good.
-[Pat speaks indistinctly]
657
00:38:43,323 --> 00:38:45,203
Wrap it up for the night.
658
00:38:46,410 --> 00:38:52,080
♪ And I can't hide
And I just can't fake it ♪
659
00:38:52,165 --> 00:38:55,285
♪ Oh, no, no, no, no ♪
660
00:38:55,377 --> 00:38:58,757
{\an8}[Adler] It took us three weeks
to make Tapestry.
661
00:38:58,839 --> 00:39:02,929
{\an8}The album exploded. It wasn't
one of those that we had to sit around
662
00:39:03,010 --> 00:39:06,100
{\an8}and wait and see what was gonna happen.
It truly exploded.
663
00:39:06,889 --> 00:39:08,769
{\an8}[Kortchmar] Everywhere you went,
it was playing out of every car,
664
00:39:08,849 --> 00:39:10,019
{\an8}playing in all the stores.
665
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:13,350
{\an8}You could not go shopping without
hearing it. It was absolutely everywhere.
666
00:39:13,437 --> 00:39:16,727
{\an8}[King] These songs were the soundtrack
of a certain generation.
667
00:39:16,815 --> 00:39:21,525
{\an8}But I meet people in their teens, and
they say, "My mother played it for me."
668
00:39:21,612 --> 00:39:24,452
{\an8}And now it's,
"My grandmother played it for me."
669
00:39:24,531 --> 00:39:26,701
{\an8}They say this song got them
through their divorce,
670
00:39:26,783 --> 00:39:29,123
and that song
they conceived their child to.
671
00:39:29,203 --> 00:39:32,043
So I'm always like,
"It's okay, I didn't need to know that."
672
00:39:34,082 --> 00:39:36,882
[vocalizes]
673
00:39:38,212 --> 00:39:43,012
♪ There'll be good times again
For me and you ♪
674
00:39:43,091 --> 00:39:47,431
♪ But we just can't stay together
Don't you feel it too? ♪
675
00:39:47,513 --> 00:39:51,103
♪ Still I'm glad for what we had ♪
676
00:39:51,183 --> 00:39:55,273
♪ And how I once loved you ♪
677
00:39:57,773 --> 00:40:02,863
♪ But it's too late, baby, now
It's too late ♪
678
00:40:02,945 --> 00:40:07,405
♪ Though we really did try to make it ♪
679
00:40:09,034 --> 00:40:14,544
♪ Something inside has died
And I can't hide ♪
680
00:40:14,623 --> 00:40:17,673
♪ And I just can't fake it ♪
681
00:40:17,751 --> 00:40:23,381
♪ Oh, no, no, no, no ♪
682
00:40:23,465 --> 00:40:27,135
[Pat Loud]
I consider you one of the most ludicrous
683
00:40:27,219 --> 00:40:31,429
schizophrenic... people I've ever known.
684
00:40:34,518 --> 00:40:37,098
And I'm sorry but...
685
00:40:37,729 --> 00:40:40,269
if it weren't so sad you'd make me laugh,
686
00:40:41,275 --> 00:40:44,315
but I think you're a goddamn asshole.
687
00:40:47,281 --> 00:40:51,741
[Pat Loud] I have spoken to a lawyer
and, uh, this is his card.
688
00:40:52,661 --> 00:40:54,871
{\an8}He would like to have you
get in touch with him.
689
00:40:54,955 --> 00:40:57,245
{\an8}-Okay.
-And I'd like to have you move out.
690
00:40:57,332 --> 00:40:58,332
It's just like that.
691
00:40:59,334 --> 00:41:00,594
Well, that's a fair deal.
692
00:41:01,211 --> 00:41:02,881
[Pat Loud] I figured you'd think that.
693
00:41:02,963 --> 00:41:07,513
You know, I-- Pat, I think it's, uh,
shortsighted on your part, really. I...
694
00:41:07,593 --> 00:41:10,013
[Pat Loud]
I don't like to talk bad about Bill.
695
00:41:10,095 --> 00:41:12,965
He's gone,
he's not here to defend himself.
696
00:41:13,056 --> 00:41:17,686
He did a lot of good things
for our children and for me.
697
00:41:17,769 --> 00:41:21,189
But he betrayed me
and he betrayed his family.
698
00:41:22,149 --> 00:41:24,609
{\an8}[Greer] People do say to me
that I destroyed the family.
699
00:41:24,693 --> 00:41:28,203
{\an8}They don't even say I helped to destroy
it, they say, "You destroyed the family."
700
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,660
And I always have to say,
"You do me too much credit.
701
00:41:31,450 --> 00:41:33,160
The family destroyed itself."
702
00:41:38,540 --> 00:41:40,540
[Pat Loud]
When I threw Bill out of the house,
703
00:41:40,626 --> 00:41:43,416
or asked him to leave the house,
I should say,
704
00:41:43,504 --> 00:41:46,884
I was probably certifiably nuts
by that time.
705
00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:53,103
{\an8}[Atlas] All of a sudden in real time,
we were watching a marriage dissolve.
706
00:41:53,180 --> 00:41:55,970
{\an8}It isn't that people
didn't get divorced before.
707
00:41:56,058 --> 00:42:02,108
But nobody played it out for millions
of people to see and make judgments on.
708
00:42:02,189 --> 00:42:05,689
Pat and Bill Loud were living
a quiet life up in Santa Barbara.
709
00:42:05,776 --> 00:42:09,816
And now we maybe know more about them
than we know about ourselves.
710
00:42:09,905 --> 00:42:12,695
You may be wondering
why they would consent to do such a thing.
711
00:42:12,783 --> 00:42:14,163
By the way,
don't let our cameras bother you.
712
00:42:14,243 --> 00:42:16,543
-Okay.
-[audience laughs]
713
00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:19,290
We have absolutely
been through hell with the critics
714
00:42:19,373 --> 00:42:21,543
and, uh, it's really tough.
715
00:42:21,625 --> 00:42:24,875
When I saw myself billed as
"Homo of the Year, 1971"
716
00:42:24,962 --> 00:42:28,552
-I was really despondent for a while.
-[Cavett] Yeah.
717
00:42:28,632 --> 00:42:31,262
But I took two aspirin, it was gone.
And, um...
718
00:42:31,343 --> 00:42:33,143
[audience laughs, applauds]
719
00:42:34,137 --> 00:42:36,467
[Delilah Loud] My mom sold the house,
720
00:42:36,557 --> 00:42:42,187
{\an8}then she figured out how to reinvent
herself in New York in her 40s.
721
00:42:42,271 --> 00:42:46,611
She did it brilliantly. And that's always
been a great inspiration to me.
722
00:42:46,692 --> 00:42:47,902
[speaks indistinctly]
723
00:42:48,485 --> 00:42:51,655
{\an8}[Pat Loud]
I think I learned to be a survivor.
724
00:42:51,738 --> 00:42:56,448
{\an8}I learned that life isn't over
because you've passed through one phase
725
00:42:56,535 --> 00:42:58,075
and you're entering another.
726
00:42:58,161 --> 00:43:02,251
And you can be successful
even when you think you've failed.
727
00:43:02,332 --> 00:43:05,502
[Soren] What a romantic time.
Friday night. Yeah.
728
00:43:05,586 --> 00:43:09,626
♪ I feel the earth move under my feet ♪
729
00:43:09,715 --> 00:43:12,215
♪ I feel the sky tumbling down ♪
730
00:43:13,594 --> 00:43:16,934
♪ I feel my heart start to trembling ♪
731
00:43:17,014 --> 00:43:21,984
♪ Whenever you're around ♪
732
00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:26,360
♪ Ooh, baby, when I see your face ♪
733
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,690
♪ Mellow as the month of May ♪
734
00:43:29,776 --> 00:43:34,446
♪ Oh, darling, I can't stand it ♪
735
00:43:34,531 --> 00:43:38,541
♪ When you look at me that way ♪
736
00:43:38,619 --> 00:43:42,459
[John] The thing that music does to people
is they resonate at a time in their life.
737
00:43:42,539 --> 00:43:46,209
There are certain times in my life
where I've needed inspiration and support.
738
00:43:46,293 --> 00:43:49,713
Certain songs have lifted me.
And they stay with you forever.
739
00:43:49,796 --> 00:43:53,676
And everybody has those kind of songs.
That's what you want as a songwriter.
740
00:43:53,759 --> 00:43:57,349
[Mitchell] A good song will knock somebody
off the back of their chair.
741
00:43:57,429 --> 00:43:59,639
You know,
the communication factor of the--
742
00:43:59,723 --> 00:44:03,103
-the directness of working in that media.
-[male interviewer] Yeah.
743
00:44:03,185 --> 00:44:05,805
[John] You know, they don't
come along like that very often.
744
00:44:05,896 --> 00:44:09,686
I mean, with Carole King, Joni Mitchell,
you don't get much better than that.
745
00:44:11,944 --> 00:44:14,324
[applause]
746
00:44:15,656 --> 00:44:17,026
Thank you.
747
00:44:18,408 --> 00:44:20,868
Thank you. Thank you.
748
00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:28,540
[man] 1971.
749
00:44:28,627 --> 00:44:31,547
[man 2] The government
was extremely dangerous.
750
00:44:31,630 --> 00:44:34,590
We sold survival kits on wax.
751
00:44:37,135 --> 00:44:39,845
[man 3] Angela Davis
was a national figure.
752
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:45,270
-All power to the people.
-[protesters cheer]
753
00:44:45,352 --> 00:44:47,192
[man 4] The police stormed the prison.
754
00:44:47,271 --> 00:44:50,611
[male reporter] It's an awful scene.
People are dying here at Attica.
755
00:44:50,691 --> 00:44:53,901
[sighs] Listen, I'm--
I'm gonna cut this off.
756
00:44:53,986 --> 00:44:55,856
[man 5] Revolution was inevitable.
757
00:44:55,946 --> 00:44:59,946
["Ball of Confusion" playing]
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