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677
00:39:31,301 --> 00:39:34,337
It could've been something from
an inter-dimension you know,
678
00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:35,638
travelled through.
679
00:39:35,672 --> 00:39:36,840
I hadn't ruled that out.
680
00:39:37,806 --> 00:39:40,743
All I know is something
happened.
681
00:39:47,817 --> 00:39:49,753
Certainly, for modern physics,
682
00:39:49,785 --> 00:39:54,023
we do believe that the world is
multi-dimensional.
683
00:39:54,056 --> 00:39:57,060
More than just the three
dimensions of space we move through
684
00:39:57,093 --> 00:39:59,261
and the one dimension of time.
685
00:39:59,294 --> 00:40:01,364
Most of what
we understand about physics
686
00:40:01,397 --> 00:40:05,102
is probably best-explained
with extra dimensions.
687
00:40:05,134 --> 00:40:07,870
It becomes interesting to try
and figure out and understand
688
00:40:07,904 --> 00:40:11,408
what that means for things like
multi-dimensional beings
689
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,276
and how different thing
interact with our reality.
690
00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:17,814
And we're not even at the beginning
from a physics point of view
691
00:40:17,846 --> 00:40:19,716
to make statements or
understand about that.
692
00:40:19,748 --> 00:40:21,350
I think that's an area of
physics
693
00:40:21,384 --> 00:40:24,622
that we're gonna find
fascinating in the future.
694
00:40:25,254 --> 00:40:28,024
I do think that the potential
695
00:40:28,058 --> 00:40:31,862
of extraterrestrial life
is there.
696
00:40:31,895 --> 00:40:34,730
Do I think it's in
Alice's bedroom?
697
00:40:34,763 --> 00:40:37,200
No, I definitely
don't think she is,
698
00:40:37,232 --> 00:40:40,069
you know, waiting for the
next alien visit.
699
00:40:40,102 --> 00:40:42,305
But something scared her
700
00:40:42,337 --> 00:40:45,808
and that's what
we're trying to figure out.
701
00:40:46,276 --> 00:40:47,377
What is it?
702
00:40:48,343 --> 00:40:50,413
I think it's something
paranormal.
703
00:40:50,446 --> 00:40:55,419
This is something ghostly, this
is something of our world.
704
00:40:55,451 --> 00:40:59,890
I don't think it's anything that
has to do with outer space,
705
00:40:59,922 --> 00:41:02,392
UFOs or extraterrestrials.
706
00:41:06,830 --> 00:41:10,701
We are recording.
You ready?
707
00:41:11,433 --> 00:41:13,703
- You have everything?
- I was born ready.
708
00:41:17,741 --> 00:41:20,310
Let me just make sure
this bad boy is still...
709
00:41:20,343 --> 00:41:23,714
We're here tonight
to communicate
710
00:41:23,747 --> 00:41:25,915
with any spirit
that's in this house.
711
00:41:28,317 --> 00:41:30,319
We've been here
for a long time.
712
00:41:31,321 --> 00:41:33,390
We've logged a lot of
hours in this house.
713
00:41:34,022 --> 00:41:36,859
Any intelligent spirit
that's in this house tonight,
714
00:41:37,926 --> 00:41:41,230
we want you to come down here
and communicate with us.
715
00:41:42,198 --> 00:41:43,834
And make yourself known.
716
00:41:49,872 --> 00:41:53,042
There's devices to alarm to let
us know that you're near us.
717
00:41:55,044 --> 00:41:56,779
We want you to come down here
718
00:41:58,814 --> 00:42:01,217
and just like you have
many times before
719
00:42:02,218 --> 00:42:05,489
let us know that you're here,
let us feel your energy.
720
00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:14,263
I might've
just saw a light dim.
721
00:42:15,198 --> 00:42:17,868
It's the REM pod.
REM pod's going off.
722
00:42:17,901 --> 00:42:19,736
Chandelier light dim
right before that.
723
00:42:21,136 --> 00:42:22,939
Just by a few seconds.
724
00:42:22,971 --> 00:42:24,506
Don't worry about the MV.
725
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:26,009
- Oh, we got a REM pod going here.
- The REM pod over here?
726
00:42:26,042 --> 00:42:29,145
All right, y'all go ahead,
I'll stay in here and watch this one.
727
00:42:29,178 --> 00:42:30,513
Steady.
728
00:42:33,515 --> 00:42:34,917
This one is off.
729
00:42:36,118 --> 00:42:37,353
It was steady.
730
00:42:39,922 --> 00:42:41,491
See, I have to see patterns.
731
00:42:42,257 --> 00:42:43,960
If all three REM pods goes off,
732
00:42:44,593 --> 00:42:47,830
I'm a little more interested in
this one where REM pod goin' off.
733
00:42:48,897 --> 00:42:50,399
I'd like to see
like the light go off
734
00:42:50,433 --> 00:42:52,569
and the REM pod to go
off at the same time.
735
00:42:52,602 --> 00:42:54,304
That'd be much more
convincing for me.
736
00:42:54,337 --> 00:42:55,806
Yeah.
That'd be pretty awesome.
737
00:43:01,343 --> 00:43:04,180
We're trying to understand
and help you communicate
738
00:43:04,214 --> 00:43:06,315
throughout
the years we've been here.
739
00:43:08,884 --> 00:43:10,286
Oh, we've got REM
pods everywhere.
740
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:11,622
Oh!
Oh, all of 'em are going off.
741
00:43:11,654 --> 00:43:13,857
- We got one at the mantel.
- We got a big one here.
742
00:43:13,890 --> 00:43:15,558
One on the stairs,
um, I don't know.
743
00:43:19,094 --> 00:43:20,564
Brad, anything back
here going on?
744
00:43:20,596 --> 00:43:21,765
Just the REM pod.
745
00:43:21,797 --> 00:43:22,698
- You have the REM pod too?
- Another REM pod.
746
00:43:22,732 --> 00:43:24,935
All three of 'em
were going off.
747
00:43:24,968 --> 00:43:27,136
So, all three just went
off at the same time?
748
00:43:28,171 --> 00:43:29,205
- There it goes again.
- Which is pretty cool,
749
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,207
because I'd...
I'd mentioned before
750
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,109
about wanting to see
all three of 'em go off.
751
00:43:32,908 --> 00:43:34,544
And yellow and green.
752
00:43:35,245 --> 00:43:37,848
I can't get a center sell
without it going off, huh?
753
00:43:37,881 --> 00:43:38,949
Yeah.
754
00:43:38,982 --> 00:43:41,484
- Is that all?
- Yeah, that's where
755
00:43:41,517 --> 00:43:43,152
Yeah,
I'll just shut my mouth.
756
00:43:43,185 --> 00:43:47,223
It's a little more interesting to me
for sure when all these devices go off.
757
00:43:47,991 --> 00:43:49,993
However, I'm still
not 100% sold.
758
00:43:52,895 --> 00:43:55,431
We use
some uh, devices and
759
00:43:55,464 --> 00:43:57,633
uh, they measure energy.
760
00:43:57,667 --> 00:44:00,370
And uh, we had one set up
in the living room,
761
00:44:00,402 --> 00:44:02,471
one in the back bedroom,
one in the stairs.
762
00:44:02,504 --> 00:44:04,907
We wanted to separate 'em
as much as possible.
763
00:44:04,940 --> 00:44:07,410
Uh, and we do that so
there's consistency.
764
00:44:07,442 --> 00:44:10,647
If one can go off, we can
manipulate another one.
765
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,015
Uh, if they all go off at the
same time,
766
00:44:13,049 --> 00:44:15,018
that's... that's
pretty impressive,
767
00:44:15,051 --> 00:44:19,122
which is indicative
of some kind of energy,
768
00:44:19,154 --> 00:44:21,190
something... uh,
something going on.
769
00:44:21,223 --> 00:44:22,593
Something not normal.
770
00:44:23,859 --> 00:44:25,928
It's something, over the years,
I've just never had happen.
771
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:29,899
The light of God surrounds us,
772
00:44:29,933 --> 00:44:32,602
the love of God enfolds us,
773
00:44:32,634 --> 00:44:35,104
the power of God protects us,
774
00:44:35,138 --> 00:44:37,574
the presence of God
watches over us.
775
00:44:37,607 --> 00:44:41,311
Wherever we are, God
is and all is well.
776
00:44:48,183 --> 00:44:49,017
There's a REM pod going.
777
00:44:49,051 --> 00:44:50,319
Oh,
where's that REM pod?
778
00:44:50,352 --> 00:44:51,320
- Is that REM pod up there?
- Back bedroom.
779
00:44:51,353 --> 00:44:53,455
Back in that... you
or is it going off?
780
00:44:53,489 --> 00:44:55,091
Back room! Here.
781
00:44:55,123 --> 00:44:56,158
Okay, great.
782
00:45:02,064 --> 00:45:03,399
This room is heavy, man.
783
00:45:04,067 --> 00:45:07,270
And as soon as I came in
the room, I felt uneasy.
784
00:45:07,303 --> 00:45:09,239
We've actually had
two mediums
785
00:45:09,272 --> 00:45:11,975
who didn't know each other
and hadn't been here before
786
00:45:12,007 --> 00:45:14,611
and both of 'em said
that there was a figure
787
00:45:14,643 --> 00:45:17,314
that they felt a presence
of it near that chair.
788
00:45:18,181 --> 00:45:22,585
And that he really was stern
and... and guarded.
789
00:45:22,618 --> 00:45:25,422
He was like a guard for the,
you know the room,
790
00:45:25,455 --> 00:45:28,125
the place that
he felt like, it was his place.
791
00:45:29,625 --> 00:45:31,294
- Interesting.
- Just like that.
792
00:45:31,326 --> 00:45:33,629
I can't explain that...
that much consistency.
793
00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:36,466
That was wild.
794
00:45:42,238 --> 00:45:45,040
Alice has had psychics
investigate the house before
795
00:45:45,073 --> 00:45:48,010
and she wanted to have
another one take a look around.
796
00:45:48,044 --> 00:45:51,080
And I don't use psychics
on... on many investigations
797
00:45:51,114 --> 00:45:54,417
just because it's very hard
to quantify what they're saying,
798
00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:56,553
but this was
important to Alice.
799
00:45:56,585 --> 00:45:58,721
So, we got somebody
from out of state,
800
00:45:58,754 --> 00:46:00,222
they came from California.
801
00:46:00,256 --> 00:46:02,192
One thing I did think it was
important is
802
00:46:02,225 --> 00:46:05,127
using a psychic or
a medium
803
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,996
who has never been to
the house before
804
00:46:07,029 --> 00:46:08,265
and even furthermore,
805
00:46:08,297 --> 00:46:11,667
making sure they didn't have
any idea where they were going.
806
00:46:11,701 --> 00:46:13,403
She didn't know anything,
807
00:46:15,004 --> 00:46:18,174
only because that would lend more
credibility to what they were saying.
808
00:46:24,312 --> 00:46:25,681
Very interesting.
809
00:46:40,797 --> 00:46:42,599
Oh, okay.
810
00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:52,908
Now am I...
811
00:46:52,942 --> 00:46:54,511
- do you just want me to go on in.
- Yeah, that's right.
812
00:47:00,082 --> 00:47:02,118
- Ring the bell.
- Yeah.
813
00:47:08,623 --> 00:47:09,524
- Hi!
- Hi.
814
00:47:09,558 --> 00:47:12,094
- I'm Jill.
- I'm Alice. Come in.
815
00:47:12,127 --> 00:47:14,196
- Nice to meet you, Alice.
- Nice to meet you, too.
816
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:15,698
Thank you for having me here.
817
00:47:15,730 --> 00:47:17,466
Absolutely, we're delighted.
818
00:47:18,366 --> 00:47:20,669
- Where would you like me to go?
- The house is yours.
819
00:47:20,703 --> 00:47:22,672
- Okay.
- This is yours.
820
00:47:22,705 --> 00:47:23,840
Very good.
821
00:47:23,872 --> 00:47:28,343
So uh, what I'll do is I'm
just gonna start down here.
822
00:47:28,377 --> 00:47:31,081
I am not gonna say
too much at first,
823
00:47:31,114 --> 00:47:35,752
if you have any questions
though for me, feel free to ask.
824
00:47:36,585 --> 00:47:38,154
Okay.
825
00:47:38,187 --> 00:47:40,824
And I'm just gonna
sit over here.
826
00:47:52,401 --> 00:47:53,837
Hmm. Is this a door
to go outside?
827
00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:55,672
It is, you can open
it if you'd like.
828
00:47:55,705 --> 00:47:57,340
- Do you mind?
- No, not at all.
829
00:47:57,372 --> 00:47:59,608
- Okay, I have to do this.
- Not at all.
830
00:48:06,214 --> 00:48:08,285
I have to get out here
and look at this.
831
00:48:19,361 --> 00:48:21,397
It's very interesting.
832
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:29,206
Can I ask you a question?
833
00:48:29,872 --> 00:48:31,707
Was there a house
that was right over here
834
00:48:31,741 --> 00:48:34,444
- that's no longer there?
- Behind Yes.
835
00:48:34,477 --> 00:48:36,179
That's what I thought, okay.
836
00:48:36,212 --> 00:48:37,681
That's important to me.
837
00:49:00,803 --> 00:49:03,339
What I like to do is I just like
to go through
838
00:49:03,372 --> 00:49:05,707
and pick some
really strong focal points
839
00:49:05,741 --> 00:49:07,177
and then I'm gonna
address them
840
00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:08,745
like I did with that other door.
841
00:49:09,978 --> 00:49:11,681
I'm just checking
everything out.
842
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:15,551
Okay.
843
00:49:26,596 --> 00:49:27,831
This one now.
844
00:49:33,535 --> 00:49:34,637
Wow.
845
00:49:35,638 --> 00:49:37,973
There's a lot of different
dimensions going on,
846
00:49:38,006 --> 00:49:40,643
there's a lot of shifting
going on in this house.
847
00:49:49,518 --> 00:49:50,887
Okay.
848
00:49:52,020 --> 00:49:55,325
I'm gonna ask you a
couple of questions.
849
00:49:55,357 --> 00:49:59,696
About a week ago, I started
having some very unusual dreams
850
00:49:59,728 --> 00:50:02,332
that turned
into what I call a "series."
851
00:50:02,364 --> 00:50:05,334
I document them, I
have a dream diary.
852
00:50:05,368 --> 00:50:07,203
I also sometimes sketch.
853
00:50:07,669 --> 00:50:10,439
What is so unusual
854
00:50:10,473 --> 00:50:12,942
is as soon as I saw that door,
went outside,
855
00:50:12,975 --> 00:50:15,612
I knew this was the door.
856
00:50:16,044 --> 00:50:18,680
This is the sketch that I did,
857
00:50:18,714 --> 00:50:21,417
the walking stick leaning up
against the door.
858
00:50:21,450 --> 00:50:23,719
- Do you have a walking stick?
- Uh, uh, hundreds.
859
00:50:23,752 --> 00:50:25,754
That's... that's insane.
860
00:50:26,622 --> 00:50:28,491
With faces,
I collect 'em.
861
00:50:29,524 --> 00:50:31,427
I don't even know if
I should say this.
862
00:50:35,964 --> 00:50:37,834
- I don't know if this
- I'm a psychiatric nurse,
863
00:50:37,866 --> 00:50:41,270
I've heard of murder stories,
I've heard of abuse, everything
864
00:50:41,303 --> 00:50:43,739
I don't want you to panic, it's
nothing to panic about
865
00:50:43,772 --> 00:50:46,642
but it is to me,
it's a very sad imprint.
866
00:50:46,676 --> 00:50:49,346
There was somebody killed
in your backyard.
867
00:50:51,580 --> 00:50:54,750
I do think there were landowners
that lived here initially
868
00:50:54,783 --> 00:50:58,353
that did not treat
people so well.
869
00:50:58,386 --> 00:51:01,323
The male, I feel him here.
870
00:51:01,357 --> 00:51:03,893
I don't use this phrase
very often,
871
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,430
but he was an evil person.
872
00:51:07,462 --> 00:51:09,931
And I do think he had
something to do
873
00:51:09,964 --> 00:51:12,001
with the man that was
killed in the back.
874
00:51:14,837 --> 00:51:18,875
He's going to do whatever he can
to try to get you to give up.
875
00:51:18,908 --> 00:51:21,411
If he could burn this
house down, he would.
876
00:51:24,113 --> 00:51:27,350
Like I keep seeing
things on fire,
877
00:51:27,382 --> 00:51:31,353
it's constantly setting
fire, constantly setting fire.
878
00:51:31,386 --> 00:51:33,955
We had a number of people
who heard that.
879
00:51:39,094 --> 00:51:40,930
Then that's weird.
880
00:51:45,401 --> 00:51:48,404
You struck a thought.
881
00:51:48,437 --> 00:51:51,040
I've heard of history
of fires in this town.
882
00:51:54,009 --> 00:51:57,380
Florence burned several times.
883
00:51:59,047 --> 00:52:01,383
First time it was uh,
884
00:52:01,417 --> 00:52:03,518
facing west
and when they rebuilt,
885
00:52:03,551 --> 00:52:04,886
they built it north,
886
00:52:04,919 --> 00:52:08,924
so that's the reason it's built
with facing north now.
887
00:52:10,558 --> 00:52:12,527
Do we know
what caused the fire?
888
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,663
And from what I know, they...
they don't know.
889
00:52:14,696 --> 00:52:15,931
I mean, you know?
890
00:52:15,964 --> 00:52:17,667
- But the fire created
- But there
891
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:19,035
Wherever the fire was created,
892
00:52:19,067 --> 00:52:21,870
the... the uh, geographical
reconfiguration.
893
00:52:21,904 --> 00:52:23,306
Uh-huh.
894
00:52:23,339 --> 00:52:25,442
That's what... that's what he was
saying that ...that... that... that
895
00:52:31,446 --> 00:52:32,681
It's a fire detector.
896
00:52:32,714 --> 00:52:33,882
All right, right there
in the hallway.
897
00:52:33,915 --> 00:52:35,852
Smoke detector.
898
00:52:35,884 --> 00:52:37,419
We're talking about fire
899
00:52:37,453 --> 00:52:38,922
and the smoke detector
battery beeps.
900
00:52:43,692 --> 00:52:45,895
My neighbor
Erin next door,
901
00:52:45,928 --> 00:52:47,864
moved there when she was 5
years old.
902
00:52:47,897 --> 00:52:51,100
And uh, she's had a very
significant part in this house,
903
00:52:51,132 --> 00:52:54,437
but the main thing is that when
she was 5 years old,
904
00:52:54,469 --> 00:52:58,607
she would tell me that there was
something buried in the backyard.
905
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,575
And I would say, "What?"
906
00:53:00,609 --> 00:53:02,812
And she would say, "It
might be a body."
907
00:53:06,448 --> 00:53:09,017
I've lived
in this house next door
908
00:53:09,051 --> 00:53:10,920
since I was about 5
years old.
909
00:53:11,553 --> 00:53:13,655
And ever since I've lived here,
910
00:53:13,689 --> 00:53:15,924
I've always thought there was
something different
911
00:53:15,957 --> 00:53:18,127
about next-door
even as a child.
912
00:53:19,861 --> 00:53:22,197
Uh, I would walk
over there sometimes
913
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:23,598
and one day I was over there
914
00:53:23,631 --> 00:53:25,000
and I just had
a strong feeling of,
915
00:53:25,033 --> 00:53:27,202
"Oh, there's
something, something different."
916
00:53:27,236 --> 00:53:30,506
And uh, I was probably
6 or 7 years old.
917
00:53:30,538 --> 00:53:33,508
And I was just convinced
918
00:53:33,542 --> 00:53:36,879
that there was somebody
buried in the backyard.
919
00:53:36,911 --> 00:53:40,549
And um, I... I told my parents
for years
920
00:53:40,582 --> 00:53:43,885
that there is somebody
buried in that backyard.
921
00:53:43,919 --> 00:53:46,522
And uh, you couldn't convince
me otherwise.
922
00:53:46,555 --> 00:53:47,957
And I... I still think that now.
923
00:53:47,989 --> 00:53:50,725
I was very adamant about
it as a child.
924
00:53:50,759 --> 00:53:52,762
And I still get that feeling
925
00:53:52,794 --> 00:53:56,898
over there and when I'm in that
spot, I'm just driven to that...
926
00:53:56,931 --> 00:53:59,701
that particular area and I
always have been.
927
00:54:00,268 --> 00:54:03,038
One time I... I said I was gonna
go dig it up
928
00:54:03,071 --> 00:54:05,474
and prove that
there was something there.
929
00:54:07,643 --> 00:54:09,712
If you walk
between our house and Alice's,
930
00:54:09,745 --> 00:54:12,482
you'll see the property line.
931
00:54:12,515 --> 00:54:15,951
These big oak trees that
make a straight line.
932
00:54:15,984 --> 00:54:17,687
That's the property line.
933
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,922
Seems like once you cross that
property line, you're...
934
00:54:21,156 --> 00:54:22,959
- In a different dimension.
- You're protected, yeah.
935
00:54:22,991 --> 00:54:23,993
- Yeah.
- It won't let us...
936
00:54:25,093 --> 00:54:28,730
My parents sadly have never had
anything happen um,
937
00:54:28,763 --> 00:54:30,932
we never uh noticed anything,
heard anything,
938
00:54:30,966 --> 00:54:35,238
but the minute you cross back
over this tree line into her yard,
939
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:38,707
it um... you can
just feel it that it's here.
940
00:54:40,276 --> 00:54:42,844
I was visiting
with Miss Alice once
941
00:54:42,877 --> 00:54:46,716
and we were sitting in the dining room
up... under the-the chandelier light.
942
00:54:47,616 --> 00:54:50,253
And she goes, "Look, look up."
943
00:54:50,285 --> 00:54:54,289
And I looked up and the... the
chandelier um,
944
00:54:54,323 --> 00:54:58,094
it had rotated itself
like with the chain,
945
00:54:58,127 --> 00:55:00,228
there was no tension in it.
946
00:55:00,261 --> 00:55:02,797
It was... it was tilted
on its side.
947
00:55:02,830 --> 00:55:04,733
And I screamed, I mean,
948
00:55:04,767 --> 00:55:07,169
real loud scream
and she screamed
949
00:55:07,201 --> 00:55:10,707
and both of us jumped up and
ran over to the front door.
950
00:55:11,573 --> 00:55:13,808
And the chandelier let go
951
00:55:13,841 --> 00:55:17,245
and it was swinging
so hard and far,
952
00:55:17,279 --> 00:55:19,181
like this, just going
953
00:55:19,214 --> 00:55:20,181
Like a pendulum.
954
00:55:20,214 --> 00:55:22,584
Yeah, it was scary.
955
00:55:22,618 --> 00:55:24,120
I've been scared over there
956
00:55:24,152 --> 00:55:26,089
and just scared
to go over there many times.
957
00:55:34,029 --> 00:55:35,231
Flashlight?
958
00:55:37,131 --> 00:55:39,232
Here, give you a light.
959
00:55:39,234 --> 00:55:40,270
Thank you.
960
00:55:40,935 --> 00:55:42,738
- Hey, Erin.
- Hey.
961
00:55:43,739 --> 00:55:44,540
So
962
00:55:44,573 --> 00:55:46,075
I'm doing well, how
are you doing?
963
00:55:46,107 --> 00:55:48,176
- Good, good to see you.
- You too.
964
00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:49,779
How are you?
965
00:55:49,812 --> 00:55:51,180
- I'm good.
- Long time no see.
966
00:55:51,212 --> 00:55:52,281
You doing all right?
967
00:55:52,314 --> 00:55:53,982
- Yeah, I'm hanging in there.
- Good, good.
968
00:55:54,015 --> 00:55:56,318
So, we're going to go
969
00:55:56,919 --> 00:55:58,087
to where you think
970
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,024
there might be
something in the backyard.
971
00:56:01,623 --> 00:56:02,859
- Yes.
- Okay.
972
00:56:02,892 --> 00:56:04,727
- There are a couple of spots.
- So, we're gonna follow you.
973
00:56:05,761 --> 00:56:06,863
Okay.
974
00:56:14,236 --> 00:56:15,837
Watch your steps.
975
00:56:25,913 --> 00:56:27,882
So, you felt like drawn
to this spot, Erin?
976
00:56:27,915 --> 00:56:30,919
Yeah, since I was uh, probably
about 6 years old,
977
00:56:30,953 --> 00:56:32,721
I've always felt
that there was...
978
00:56:32,754 --> 00:56:34,089
there's
something over on this land.
979
00:56:34,122 --> 00:56:36,825
That every time I was in one
of... in this spot,
980
00:56:36,859 --> 00:56:38,828
one of the stronger ones,
981
00:56:38,861 --> 00:56:40,997
I just always
thought it was a body here.
982
00:56:41,029 --> 00:56:44,299
Or something significant
happened to the body here.
983
00:56:44,332 --> 00:56:46,067
But this is one of
the main ones.
984
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:49,638
This was the one that I... I
came to when I was real little.
985
00:56:49,672 --> 00:56:52,708
We would come over here and
play like little tea parties
986
00:56:52,741 --> 00:56:54,076
And stuff at her backyard.
987
00:56:54,109 --> 00:56:55,143
She'd let us in.
988
00:56:55,176 --> 00:56:58,314
And I just didn't want to
come play in this spot.
989
00:56:58,346 --> 00:57:03,084
Erin actually did find four
bodies near the Pearl River.
990
00:57:03,118 --> 00:57:05,654
People knew they were
there from the Civil War
991
00:57:06,388 --> 00:57:09,290
and uh, and adults were trying to
find those bodies and they couldn't.
992
00:57:09,323 --> 00:57:11,660
That other guy told me that
993
00:57:11,694 --> 00:57:14,130
when he took me
along that sometimes children
994
00:57:14,163 --> 00:57:16,399
are more open to... to
things
995
00:57:16,431 --> 00:57:19,232
that adults want to be
close-minded to.
996
00:57:19,234 --> 00:57:21,303
And so, he wanted me to try it.
997
00:57:21,335 --> 00:57:22,837
And um,
998
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:25,006
everywhere that I walked
over and they crossed,
999
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,143
they put a flag
and then later that day,
1000
00:57:27,176 --> 00:57:28,678
went and did whatever they do.
1001
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:31,113
And where I had marked, they
found all four bodies.
1002
00:57:31,145 --> 00:57:33,149
That validates
this one here.
1003
00:57:33,181 --> 00:57:34,250
- Validates, yeah.
- Right.
1004
00:57:34,283 --> 00:57:35,250
And what else.
1005
00:57:35,283 --> 00:57:36,852
How could you have more
validation than that,
1006
00:57:36,884 --> 00:57:38,754
that's impressive.
1007
00:57:38,786 --> 00:57:41,390
Well, you wanna try to do
a EVP session right here?
1008
00:57:41,422 --> 00:57:42,892
- Sure.
- Are you okay with that?
1009
00:57:42,924 --> 00:57:44,326
Oh yeah, take it around?
1010
00:57:45,426 --> 00:57:48,064
But... but you know, you
can grab onto me.
1011
00:57:48,096 --> 00:57:49,899
- Okay.
- You trust me after a few years, don't you?
1012
00:57:49,931 --> 00:57:51,767
Yeah, I'll do it, I'll
hang out... okay.
1013
00:57:52,433 --> 00:57:53,868
All right, you ready?
1014
00:57:53,902 --> 00:57:54,771
- Yeah.
- Okay.
1015
00:57:58,140 --> 00:58:00,475
Is there somebody out
here in the yard?
1016
00:58:00,509 --> 00:58:02,011
Or the land?
1017
00:58:05,747 --> 00:58:07,349
Can you give us
some kind of sign
1018
00:58:08,216 --> 00:58:10,952
that you're aware that
Erin is standing right here?
1019
00:58:14,323 --> 00:58:15,924
Do you know Erin?
1020
00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:19,362
Hear that?
1021
00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:23,299
- It's like rustling in the bushes.
- Yeah, yeah.
1022
00:58:29,538 --> 00:58:31,774
Is there something
buried in the yard?
1023
00:58:34,843 --> 00:58:36,377
I'm not gonna lie,
I jumped a little.
1024
00:58:36,410 --> 00:58:38,313
That was a little...
it was kinda loud.
1025
00:58:40,982 --> 00:58:42,785
It was kinda loud
whatever that was.
1026
00:58:45,353 --> 00:58:47,223
- Can you tell us what
- I feel like I'm gonna throw up.
1027
00:58:47,256 --> 00:58:50,026
- Really?
- Real sick.
1028
00:58:50,859 --> 00:58:52,328
Mm-hmm.
1029
00:58:52,361 --> 00:58:53,828
Just give me a... I just
need to breathe.
1030
00:58:53,861 --> 00:58:55,497
- Okay.
- Let me breath for a moment.
1031
00:58:55,531 --> 00:58:57,900
- Wanna walk out this way?
- Mm-hmm.
1032
00:58:57,933 --> 00:59:00,469
- Which way?
- Just over here to the bushes.
1033
00:59:01,870 --> 00:59:03,172
Oh my God.
1034
00:59:04,105 --> 00:59:05,507
- You okay?
- Mm-hmm.
1035
00:59:27,062 --> 00:59:28,364
You okay?
1036
00:59:29,897 --> 00:59:32,500
My stomach just got
tied up in knots.
1037
00:59:32,533 --> 00:59:33,334
It's okay.
1038
00:59:35,370 --> 00:59:37,006
I don't think
I've ever spent
1039
00:59:37,038 --> 00:59:38,975
longer than four seconds
standing in that spot.
1040
01:00:11,873 --> 01:00:15,143
Right now, we have
a dog roaming the property
1041
01:00:15,176 --> 01:00:16,344
and trying to see
if he can get hits
1042
01:00:16,377 --> 01:00:18,580
and see if he can pick up
1043
01:00:18,614 --> 01:00:24,554
on the scent of the bacteria
that feeds on human remains.
1044
01:00:45,473 --> 01:00:47,642
Probing the aerated soil,
1045
01:00:47,676 --> 01:00:52,547
so that if there is any cadaver
source here
1046
01:00:53,982 --> 01:00:57,052
it will allow the odor
1047
01:00:57,085 --> 01:01:00,122
to come up easier
1048
01:01:00,989 --> 01:01:05,261
and make it a little stronger
for the dog to be able to work.
1049
01:01:11,565 --> 01:01:12,935
Slight interest
and you can see
1050
01:01:12,968 --> 01:01:14,636
where he kept going back
to that one area.
1051
01:01:14,669 --> 01:01:16,204
So, I'm going to run him
through that area.
1052
01:01:22,176 --> 01:01:23,277
If it's someone buried,
1053
01:01:23,312 --> 01:01:26,415
the dog's gonna show
a lot of interest to the trees.
1054
01:01:26,448 --> 01:01:28,250
And if a body is buried
somewhere
1055
01:01:29,051 --> 01:01:31,020
and the trees grow up,
1056
01:01:31,053 --> 01:01:33,055
well they use the body as
nourishment.
1057
01:01:33,087 --> 01:01:36,257
And so, the tree takes on that
odor
1058
01:01:36,290 --> 01:01:38,227
and it's in their leaves
and things like that.
1059
01:01:52,674 --> 01:01:56,445
He's going around
these clumps of trees.
1060
01:01:56,477 --> 01:01:59,414
These are the only trees that
he's looking up into, you know,
1061
01:01:59,448 --> 01:02:01,283
cause there are a lot of trees
on this property,
1062
01:02:01,315 --> 01:02:04,620
but this section was
what he's showing interest in
1063
01:02:04,652 --> 01:02:05,821
and looking up into
the trees.
1064
01:02:05,853 --> 01:02:10,259
It's kinda like when we did a
case in another state,
1065
01:02:10,292 --> 01:02:12,127
the body was buried
1066
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,296
uh, and then they went back
and dug it up
1067
01:02:14,328 --> 01:02:15,698
and moved it
to another location.
1068
01:02:15,730 --> 01:02:17,966
The odor and the decomp was
still in the ground.
1069
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,702
So, it's that type of thing.
1070
01:02:19,734 --> 01:02:22,971
So, yeah it could be way old.
1071
01:02:27,009 --> 01:02:29,745
He's not given us
a definite location.
1072
01:02:29,777 --> 01:02:32,381
He's just giving us where he is
picking up odor
1073
01:02:32,413 --> 01:02:34,549
and it's coming
through the trees.
1074
01:02:34,582 --> 01:02:37,652
It's the odor that he has been
trained for,
1075
01:02:37,685 --> 01:02:39,587
I would investigate and see
1076
01:02:39,620 --> 01:02:41,456
whether or not there
was a cemetery here.
1077
01:02:41,489 --> 01:02:43,993
And if they moved any bodies
1078
01:02:44,026 --> 01:02:47,129
and that may give you an
answer to why the odor is here.
1079
01:03:02,410 --> 01:03:05,646
We brought some cadaver
dogs over there, right?
1080
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,216
Uh-huh.
1081
01:03:07,248 --> 01:03:10,585
Um, which they smell
decomposition and bacteria
1082
01:03:10,618 --> 01:03:13,622
that feeds on human bodies...
that sort of thing.
1083
01:03:13,654 --> 01:03:15,591
And those dogs were picking up
1084
01:03:15,623 --> 01:03:18,359
that odor in and around her yard
1085
01:03:18,393 --> 01:03:22,431
and so, we wanted to do a little
research and see if perhaps
1086
01:03:22,464 --> 01:03:25,601
there's ever been
any sort of evidence
1087
01:03:26,435 --> 01:03:31,239
of a burial there or a
graveyard at any point in time?
1088
01:03:31,272 --> 01:03:35,276
This is a picture of the
Florence Cemetery.
1089
01:03:35,710 --> 01:03:37,179
Right, yep.
1090
01:03:37,212 --> 01:03:39,315
This part that's clear
1091
01:03:40,114 --> 01:03:43,785
that is the original part
of the cemetery.
1092
01:03:44,419 --> 01:03:45,252
All this here?
1093
01:03:45,286 --> 01:03:47,221
- All of this.
- Okay, okay.
1094
01:03:47,254 --> 01:03:51,160
When the town burned, all of
the records were burned.
1095
01:03:52,426 --> 01:03:57,832
And there is not any records
anywhere on that part of it.
1096
01:03:57,866 --> 01:03:59,501
I see.
1097
01:03:59,533 --> 01:04:03,404
Do you think where Miss Alice's
house is that perhaps
1098
01:04:03,437 --> 01:04:05,506
there could have been
something like that
1099
01:04:05,540 --> 01:04:09,445
before record keeping,
like before it all burnt?
1100
01:04:09,477 --> 01:04:11,180
It could be, but if it is,
1101
01:04:11,212 --> 01:04:13,415
I don't think there is
any record of that.
1102
01:04:13,448 --> 01:04:17,152
So, if there was a grave of some
sort or a burial
1103
01:04:17,185 --> 01:04:20,122
where Miss Alice lives now,
1104
01:04:20,154 --> 01:04:22,524
it would've had
to have been before the fire.
1105
01:04:22,556 --> 01:04:23,524
Right.
1106
01:04:23,558 --> 01:04:26,795
In regards to this, where
is Alice's house?
1107
01:04:26,828 --> 01:04:27,863
Is it say, north?
1108
01:04:27,895 --> 01:04:30,531
- Okay. Right.
- Is it east or west?
1109
01:04:30,564 --> 01:04:33,367
All right, she's
on this Clear Branch road.
1110
01:04:33,401 --> 01:04:34,469
Okay.
1111
01:04:34,502 --> 01:04:36,838
So, it will be up here.
1112
01:04:36,872 --> 01:04:39,140
Okay, so her house
is somewhere...
1113
01:04:39,174 --> 01:04:40,843
Her house would be around here.
1114
01:04:41,475 --> 01:04:46,381
So, her house is around here
where the unmarked section is.
1115
01:04:46,915 --> 01:04:49,418
Right, it would be
on about there.
1116
01:04:51,252 --> 01:04:54,522
So, there are plenty
of unmarked burials in Florence,
1117
01:04:54,556 --> 01:04:56,625
but no real evidence
to show
1118
01:04:56,658 --> 01:04:58,761
that it's right there
on Alice's property.
1119
01:04:59,393 --> 01:05:04,366
But nobody knows where those
burials were prior to the fire.
1120
01:05:04,399 --> 01:05:06,667
After the fire, everything
was destroyed.
1121
01:05:06,701 --> 01:05:08,737
All the records for the town,
1122
01:05:08,770 --> 01:05:11,873
so, there could have been
something prior.
1123
01:05:12,473 --> 01:05:16,411
We can't jump to any conclusions,
but we can speculate.
1124
01:05:20,649 --> 01:05:23,852
Would you ever consider moving
back into the house and living here?
1125
01:05:23,884 --> 01:05:26,154
What would it take?
1126
01:05:26,788 --> 01:05:28,257
I uh...
1127
01:05:28,790 --> 01:05:30,893
if I didn't live here alone,
you know,
1128
01:05:30,926 --> 01:05:32,527
if somebody else lived with me,
1129
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,395
I'd probably, you know,
I could do it, I could do it.
1130
01:05:34,428 --> 01:05:37,665
But... but alone here, uh, I
haven't come to that point.
1131
01:05:37,698 --> 01:05:39,901
I mean, I haven't been
to that place yet.
1132
01:05:39,935 --> 01:05:41,370
I really haven't.
1133
01:05:41,402 --> 01:05:42,603
I'm not saying I couldn't,
but I haven't.
1134
01:05:42,636 --> 01:05:44,205
I'm not ready yet.
1135
01:05:44,906 --> 01:05:49,145
Because I still, I still don't
know where I might end up.
1136
01:05:50,812 --> 01:05:52,647
I hope
this process helps her,
1137
01:05:52,681 --> 01:05:55,384
I really do, that's the goal,
that's what we're trying to...
1138
01:05:55,417 --> 01:05:57,685
I think we're 80% there,
to be honest with you.
1139
01:05:57,718 --> 01:05:59,187
I think we're about 80% there.
1140
01:06:00,422 --> 01:06:04,459
Are we ever gonna get her back
in the house sleeping at night?
1141
01:06:04,491 --> 01:06:05,460
I don't know.
1142
01:06:06,361 --> 01:06:08,797
I hope through this
process, it uh...
1143
01:06:14,969 --> 01:06:17,473
There's no crying in
ghost hunting, so...
1144
01:06:18,973 --> 01:06:20,741
I want to get to the point
1145
01:06:20,774 --> 01:06:24,912
where we can get her
at peace with all of this.
1146
01:06:24,946 --> 01:06:26,614
She wants to get back here,
1147
01:06:26,647 --> 01:06:28,517
she wants to live here,
she wants to be in here.
1148
01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:29,517
She wants to do everything.
1149
01:06:29,551 --> 01:06:31,286
She knew it was the place
to raise a family,
1150
01:06:31,319 --> 01:06:33,221
her daughter, her everything.
1151
01:06:33,254 --> 01:06:34,989
And uh, it was taken
away from her and uh,
1152
01:06:35,022 --> 01:06:37,559
we need to get that
back.
1153
01:06:38,692 --> 01:06:41,395
The reason I still have
my house and I haven't sold it
1154
01:06:41,428 --> 01:06:43,764
is because I really believe
it has a purpose.
1155
01:06:43,797 --> 01:06:45,801
I think, you know,
opening it up to people
1156
01:06:45,834 --> 01:06:47,736
is the way that
something will be found.
1157
01:06:47,768 --> 01:06:50,372
If I sold it, somebody else
might not be open to that.
1158
01:06:51,306 --> 01:06:52,942
But I think there's more to it.
1159
01:06:54,308 --> 01:06:56,644
I think everybody involved in
this house
1160
01:06:56,678 --> 01:06:58,779
has a real closeness,
1161
01:06:58,812 --> 01:07:01,282
a genuine concern
about each other.
1162
01:07:01,315 --> 01:07:03,417
I really have enjoyed the
people that I've met.
1163
01:07:03,451 --> 01:07:06,521
Uh, I have a lot of special
affection for John and Brad.
1164
01:07:06,553 --> 01:07:08,022
I mean, I really do, I feel
like they're family.
1165
01:07:08,056 --> 01:07:10,626
And even though we have
our lives separate, from here
1166
01:07:10,658 --> 01:07:13,461
we... we are
definitely connected here.
1167
01:07:16,598 --> 01:07:19,935
It's been quite a ride
from the first day I was here
1168
01:07:19,968 --> 01:07:22,337
to my current uh, relationship
1169
01:07:22,370 --> 01:07:23,638
and friendship
with Miss Alice.
1170
01:07:24,705 --> 01:07:27,942
Alice will be in my life forever
1171
01:07:27,975 --> 01:07:31,779
even... uh, maybe when I pass
away, when I cross over,
1172
01:07:31,812 --> 01:07:34,450
if she crosses over
before me, we will hang out.
1173
01:07:34,882 --> 01:07:36,884
If uh... if I cross over,
1174
01:07:36,917 --> 01:07:40,756
well maybe I'll kick
the ball down the steps on her.
1175
01:07:42,056 --> 01:07:45,493
Being involved in investigating
paranormal activity
1176
01:07:45,527 --> 01:07:48,797
has become
a mid-life second wind for me.
1177
01:07:48,830 --> 01:07:51,667
It's something that I've found
that I really enjoy doing.
1178
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:53,801
And couple that
with helping a friend,
1179
01:07:53,835 --> 01:07:57,406
Miss Alice, really has
been beneficial for my life.
1180
01:07:57,439 --> 01:07:58,839
It's just... it's added a...
1181
01:07:58,872 --> 01:08:01,509
a fresh chapter
in my mid-life years.
1182
01:08:01,542 --> 01:08:04,345
It's made me wanna get up
1183
01:08:04,379 --> 01:08:07,482
and hit... hit the ground
running more in my life.
1184
01:08:07,515 --> 01:08:09,384
So, it's a very, very important
part of my life now.
1185
01:08:10,585 --> 01:08:11,620
We're a great team.
1186
01:08:11,652 --> 01:08:14,756
We make time for each other
and I think that
1187
01:08:15,489 --> 01:08:18,693
we are locked in to figuring out
what's going on in the house.
1188
01:08:20,028 --> 01:08:22,097
I would like to see Alice in a
happy place
1189
01:08:22,130 --> 01:08:24,466
where she's satisfied
with the work that we've done.
1190
01:08:24,498 --> 01:08:26,835
And I think she's gotten
some answers.
1191
01:08:26,867 --> 01:08:29,772
I think there's key answers
that she still has not had.
1192
01:08:30,604 --> 01:08:32,773
And end game for the
Mississippi house.
1193
01:08:32,806 --> 01:08:34,776
In my opinion, I don't know if
there is one,
1194
01:08:34,809 --> 01:08:37,346
and I think that this is a house
where we're learning,
1195
01:08:37,379 --> 01:08:38,479
we're teaching.
1196
01:08:38,514 --> 01:08:40,815
And I think it's something that
we can continue to do
1197
01:08:40,849 --> 01:08:41,884
for years to come.
1198
01:10:23,617 --> 01:10:25,553
- I put it on there this morning.
- Yeah.
1199
01:10:25,586 --> 01:10:26,921
What do you mean
you put it on this morning?
1200
01:10:26,955 --> 01:10:28,857
- I aimed my camera.
- You did?
1201
01:10:28,889 --> 01:10:31,660
- Hey! Check this!
- No, I aimed the camera
1202
01:10:31,693 --> 01:10:33,061
Check it, how do you check it?
1203
01:10:33,094 --> 01:10:35,197
- I don't know.
- I got chills right now.
1204
01:10:36,029 --> 01:10:38,166
Dude, that just did that.
1205
01:10:38,198 --> 01:10:39,768
I don't... wasn't near
it, nobody was there.
1206
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:40,868
I saw that.
1207
01:10:40,902 --> 01:10:42,938
- So, if we got that...
- Dude, here.
1208
01:10:42,970 --> 01:10:45,040
- We got that.
- Holy!
1209
01:10:45,706 --> 01:10:47,575
Do you know
how to check it on there?
1210
01:10:47,608 --> 01:10:49,210
How to bring it up on there?
1211
01:10:49,243 --> 01:10:51,078
Yeah, it's gonna be
quick right here.
1212
01:10:51,112 --> 01:10:52,781
That's okay.
It... it'll be...
1213
01:10:52,813 --> 01:10:55,249
Dude, come on, you gotta
be kidding me right now.
1214
01:10:55,282 --> 01:10:56,584
Don't believe it.
1215
01:10:56,617 --> 01:10:58,620
Yeah, here we go, here's
my last shot.
1216
01:10:58,653 --> 01:10:59,988
It was rolling.
1217
01:11:00,020 --> 01:11:01,790
- Yeah, we got it?
- Yeah, it's not there anymore.
1218
01:11:03,056 --> 01:11:05,727
All right, so I was inside
1219
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,830
and I was running around,
I'm trying to get this gear sent out,
1220
01:11:08,862 --> 01:11:11,899
because we have
gear shipping out today.
1221
01:11:11,933 --> 01:11:13,667
Got the camera,
I'm messing with that
1222
01:11:13,701 --> 01:11:15,703
and I'm just going inside
of the house.
1223
01:11:15,737 --> 01:11:18,206
And nobody
was right here at all,
1224
01:11:18,238 --> 01:11:21,009
nobody was in the house,
it was just me.
1225
01:11:21,041 --> 01:11:24,278
Uh, and I'm walking by and all
of a sudden, I hear this ball
1226
01:11:24,312 --> 01:11:28,050
falling, falling down the
stairs and there it is.
1227
01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:31,987
We're checking if we have
it on camera right now.
1228
01:11:33,554 --> 01:11:36,892
There's the ball and it
came from up there.
1229
01:11:36,925 --> 01:11:38,527
I like it,
1230
01:11:38,559 --> 01:11:40,261
but the fact that there's
people in the house
1231
01:11:40,295 --> 01:11:41,997
moving around, all that stuff.
1232
01:11:42,029 --> 01:11:44,099
- Okay, yeah.
- Just kinda makes me like...
1233
01:11:44,831 --> 01:11:46,600
I w... I was the only
one in the house.
1234
01:11:46,634 --> 01:11:48,569
- Yeah, it's true.
- You know what I mean?
1235
01:11:48,603 --> 01:11:50,071
- And I
- Yeah, you were outside.
1236
01:11:50,104 --> 01:11:51,673
I... I promise, dude.
1237
01:11:51,706 --> 01:11:53,842
Like I... this whole thing's
about honesty,
1238
01:11:53,875 --> 01:11:56,176
like I'm honest
with you guys.
1239
01:11:56,210 --> 01:11:58,647
I was walking with
the ball as it was
1240
01:11:58,679 --> 01:12:00,047
- We just saw.
- I heard a noise
1241
01:12:00,081 --> 01:12:01,181
and I looked over
and it was like
1242
01:12:01,215 --> 01:12:03,185
dunk, dunk, dunk,
dunk, dunk.
1243
01:12:05,286 --> 01:12:07,154
I mean we have like
f...-.
1244
01:12:07,188 --> 01:12:09,791
I mean this is the clip, this is
the footage we've been waiting,
1245
01:12:09,823 --> 01:12:12,193
like this is evidence that
we've been waiting to get.
1246
01:12:14,127 --> 01:12:17,299
- Who's that?
- Oh, that must be Alice.
1247
01:12:20,033 --> 01:12:21,835
Uh-oh. Oh, dude!
1248
01:12:21,868 --> 01:12:23,971
- Can you pull it back?
- Oh yeah.
1249
01:12:25,907 --> 01:12:27,609
What are... like what
are your thoughts?
1250
01:12:27,642 --> 01:12:29,176
I'm really curious,
what do you think?
1251
01:12:29,210 --> 01:12:31,046
Well... I mean, you guys see this all...
look see that
1252
01:12:31,078 --> 01:12:33,114
Okay, I'm gonna pause it,
I'm gonna frame this.
1253
01:12:34,282 --> 01:12:35,884
- Hey guys!
- Yeah?
1254
01:12:35,916 --> 01:12:37,618
- There's nobody in here.
- What?
1255
01:12:37,652 --> 01:12:39,254
- Get outta here!
- So, we had a door move?
1256
01:12:39,287 --> 01:12:40,556
I don't know.
1257
01:12:41,756 --> 01:12:43,858
But it... it sounded like the
front door opened or closed.
1258
01:12:44,626 --> 01:12:46,161
- But...
- No, I definitely heard that.
1259
01:12:46,193 --> 01:12:47,161
I... you thought it was Alice.
1260
01:12:49,130 --> 01:12:52,067
Dude, I got freaking
chills on my hand right now.
1261
01:12:54,234 --> 01:12:55,804
- Wait a second, look, no
- Get outta here.
1262
01:12:55,836 --> 01:12:56,804
- No, wait, wait, wait.
- What?
1263
01:12:56,837 --> 01:12:58,305
Let's hear that.
Okay.
1264
01:12:58,339 --> 01:13:00,341
I think the wind probably
blew it open.
1265
01:13:00,907 --> 01:13:01,741
Alright.
1266
01:13:01,776 --> 01:13:03,812
I mean that would
be my assessment.
1267
01:13:07,381 --> 01:13:09,183
- I think that's what it was.
- Okay.
1268
01:13:09,216 --> 01:13:10,384
- Honestly, I think
- Yep.
1269
01:13:10,417 --> 01:13:12,219
Everybody just for whatever
reason leaves this door like
1270
01:13:12,252 --> 01:13:13,287
this, it's never really
1271
01:13:13,321 --> 01:13:14,689
You know?
1272
01:13:14,721 --> 01:13:16,190
But that doesn't
explain the ball.
1273
01:13:18,725 --> 01:13:20,194
What do you think?
1274
01:13:20,228 --> 01:13:23,031
I mean it's happened in
this house many times.
1275
01:13:23,063 --> 01:13:24,965
Like eight or nine times.
1276
01:13:24,998 --> 01:13:26,969
So, I mean it's always exciting
when it happens.
1277
01:13:27,734 --> 01:13:29,371
It's always exciting
when it happens.
1278
01:13:33,206 --> 01:13:35,209
I mean that door sound
is interesting.
1279
01:13:35,242 --> 01:13:37,312
And you know the thing is, I
mean it could be wind, right?
1280
01:13:37,345 --> 01:13:39,147
We... well, yeah.
1281
01:13:39,179 --> 01:13:41,215
The doors open?
1282
01:13:43,785 --> 01:13:45,319
So, it closes by itself.
1283
01:13:45,353 --> 01:13:47,221
- Wait a minute.
- Well, assuming it's that door.
1284
01:13:47,889 --> 01:13:49,958
Because I thought it was that
front door
1285
01:13:49,991 --> 01:13:52,794
swinging open and
hitting the closet door.
1286
01:13:54,127 --> 01:13:55,663
But the door's open right now.
1287
01:13:57,364 --> 01:14:00,167
So, it either wasn't that door,
it was a different door.
1288
01:14:01,469 --> 01:14:03,372
Definitely sounded
like a door closing.
1289
01:14:17,285 --> 01:14:20,022
A few days went by and I
was wondering what that noise was.
1290
01:14:22,090 --> 01:14:24,759
Something that I wanted
to figure out.
1291
01:14:24,791 --> 01:14:26,428
And it was just bothering me,
it was frustrating me for real.
1292
01:14:27,461 --> 01:14:30,165
It was a frustrating four
or five days, I think.
1293
01:14:30,197 --> 01:14:31,999
I was trying to figure
out what it was.
1294
01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:36,671
The camera back there, it was
aiming that way behind me.
1295
01:14:37,170 --> 01:14:38,872
And I noticed some movement
1296
01:14:38,906 --> 01:14:42,010
in the reflection of the
chandelier.
1297
01:14:42,876 --> 01:14:47,682
It has a brass ball like un...
un... un... beneath it.
1298
01:14:49,015 --> 01:14:50,919
So, I started
looking closer at that
1299
01:14:50,952 --> 01:14:53,155
and I zoomed in and then bam!
1300
01:15:21,215 --> 01:15:23,051
My heart started racing.
1301
01:15:24,417 --> 01:15:27,421
What I saw you know,
1302
01:15:27,455 --> 01:15:32,093
were two...
two different doors um, opening.
1303
01:15:32,126 --> 01:15:33,995
And then one of 'em
open and closed.
1304
01:15:35,496 --> 01:15:38,132
It was like something...
it was like something just came through.
1305
01:15:39,233 --> 01:15:41,803
It's one thing to capture
a door opening,
1306
01:15:41,836 --> 01:15:43,805
but it's really
a different level
1307
01:15:43,837 --> 01:15:46,140
when you see a door open
and then close itself.
1308
01:15:46,808 --> 01:15:49,144
Like that I mean I haven't
seen that before.
1309
01:15:50,377 --> 01:15:54,215
Now I can't tell you what...
what the heck did that.
1310
01:15:54,247 --> 01:15:58,318
But something moved
not only the chandelier
1311
01:15:58,352 --> 01:16:00,154
but opened and
closed doors.
1312
01:16:03,190 --> 01:16:04,859
It's very interesting.
1313
01:16:05,593 --> 01:16:07,362
That's important to me.
1314
01:16:14,335 --> 01:16:15,504
Theoretically,
1315
01:16:16,103 --> 01:16:17,971
a gust of wind
could open it maybe,
1316
01:16:18,005 --> 01:16:20,108
but open
and close it, two of 'em?
1317
01:16:21,108 --> 01:16:22,811
In theory, I guess
it's possible.
1318
01:16:25,846 --> 01:16:31,152
Don't forget you know, minutes,
minutes before that
1319
01:16:31,986 --> 01:16:33,854
a baseball
1320
01:16:35,089 --> 01:16:36,925
was flipped down the steps.
1321
01:16:38,125 --> 01:16:39,895
And the doors were closed.
1322
01:16:41,028 --> 01:16:43,198
Not to mention there was
hardly any breeze at all.
1323
01:16:43,230 --> 01:16:45,332
This is a Mississippi
hot summer day.
1324
01:16:46,233 --> 01:16:49,470
So... so when you
bundle all that up
1325
01:16:50,403 --> 01:16:51,538
and you look at that,
1326
01:16:51,572 --> 01:16:54,509
that is some dramatic activity
1327
01:16:56,477 --> 01:17:00,215
all within minutes.
1328
01:17:02,483 --> 01:17:05,186
You see now we got lights like
coming...
1329
01:17:05,219 --> 01:17:06,822
yeah, those lights are
freaking out.
1330
01:17:13,327 --> 01:17:16,031
I don't have all the answers, I
just don't think it was normal.
1331
01:17:16,964 --> 01:17:18,600
You know, was it a ghost?
1332
01:17:18,632 --> 01:17:20,134
Yeah, it could be.
1333
01:17:20,166 --> 01:17:23,237
It wasn't a human
in physical form.
1334
01:17:38,653 --> 01:17:41,256
This is... and this is
gonna continue on.
1335
01:17:41,288 --> 01:17:43,992
It's... it's not to the point
where she'll just be,
1336
01:17:44,024 --> 01:17:45,460
"Okay,
it's over with."
1337
01:17:45,492 --> 01:17:47,227
Until we can figure out what's
going on,
1338
01:17:47,260 --> 01:17:48,662
Miss Alice is going to
wanna
1339
01:17:48,696 --> 01:17:51,431
pursue and keep trying to
find the answers.
1340
01:17:51,465 --> 01:17:52,600
What created those lights?
1341
01:17:52,632 --> 01:17:53,901
And I'll be right by her side.
1342
01:17:53,934 --> 01:17:56,504
We're... we're gonna do this
together and figure this out.
1343
01:17:58,973 --> 01:18:00,575
Bless Alice, Lord.
1344
01:18:00,608 --> 01:18:02,911
And be with her always.
1345
01:18:02,943 --> 01:18:05,179
I think the attraction
to all of it is,
1346
01:18:06,246 --> 01:18:09,884
there's always been the
question, what's after death?
1347
01:18:10,283 --> 01:18:13,220
And anybody who hasn't thought
about, that is a liar.
1348
01:18:17,023 --> 01:18:20,060
I think if you find proof of
ghost,
1349
01:18:20,094 --> 01:18:22,430
then you found your
proof of life after death.
1350
01:18:23,063 --> 01:18:25,299
And you don't have to
just take it on faith.
1351
01:18:25,332 --> 01:18:28,569
And we being human beings,
we'd like to have proof of it.
1352
01:18:29,202 --> 01:18:31,371
Uh, I really think that's
the attraction of it.
1353
01:18:31,404 --> 01:18:34,975
I... I think that that will always
be the attraction of ghost stories.
1354
01:18:37,979 --> 01:18:40,315
I think this is one of those
mysterious areas of life
1355
01:18:41,514 --> 01:18:43,517
that this is gonna have to be
something that people deal with
1356
01:18:43,550 --> 01:18:46,286
in their own hearts, their
own minds.
1357
01:18:46,319 --> 01:18:47,654
And come to their
own conclusions.
1358
01:18:47,688 --> 01:18:49,556
And just be true to themselves.
1359
01:19:14,715 --> 01:19:17,552
When I was growing up,
my grandmother
1360
01:19:17,585 --> 01:19:21,756
told us one time that uh,
they had a ghost in their house.
1361
01:19:21,788 --> 01:19:25,559
Every night that ghost would
come there and go up the steps.
1362
01:19:25,593 --> 01:19:27,729
So finally, they decided they
would go
1363
01:19:27,761 --> 01:19:30,764
and they would find
out what the ghost was.
1364
01:19:30,797 --> 01:19:32,767
So, they went out that night
1365
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,069
and about
the middle of the night,
1366
01:19:35,102 --> 01:19:39,407
here come several goats
going up and down the steps,
1367
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,375
up and down the steps.
1368
01:19:42,609 --> 01:19:46,747
So, their ghost was
a goat ghost. Debunk.
51892
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