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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:34,655 --> 00:00:37,175 [ Reverse signal beeping ] 2 00:00:37,209 --> 00:00:40,661 ♪♪ 3 00:01:05,686 --> 00:01:08,758 [ Whirring ] 4 00:01:08,792 --> 00:01:12,072 ♪♪ 5 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:24,774 -Remember how bad this road is? 6 00:01:24,808 --> 00:01:27,363 I couldn't make the left. -Mm-hmm. 7 00:01:27,397 --> 00:01:31,781 ♪♪ 8 00:01:31,815 --> 00:01:35,578 I think there's 18,000 coming out. 9 00:01:35,612 --> 00:01:39,582 It's about -- be about 40 tractor-trailer loads. 10 00:01:39,616 --> 00:01:44,104 ♪♪ 11 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:47,969 Now we go out and straighten boxes, 12 00:01:48,004 --> 00:01:50,834 straighten covers, make sure our count's right. 13 00:01:50,869 --> 00:01:53,147 And, uh... 14 00:01:53,182 --> 00:01:54,907 A little more than we did last year, 15 00:01:54,942 --> 00:01:59,567 but two years ago,we did 64 trailer loads, though. 16 00:01:59,602 --> 00:02:01,293 We're just a little bit of it. 17 00:02:01,328 --> 00:02:03,606 It's the biggest... 18 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,677 annual move of bees 19 00:02:05,711 --> 00:02:08,438 in the world. 20 00:02:08,473 --> 00:02:09,681 We got them in on time... 21 00:02:09,715 --> 00:02:12,580 [ Indistinct talking in distance ] 22 00:02:12,615 --> 00:02:14,306 ...this year. 23 00:02:14,341 --> 00:02:16,170 [ Chuckles ] 24 00:02:16,205 --> 00:02:18,793 Now we can get some sleep. 25 00:02:18,828 --> 00:02:23,039 ♪♪ 26 00:02:25,041 --> 00:02:27,768 -Bees are so fascinating. 27 00:02:27,802 --> 00:02:29,356 When you first go into a beehive, 28 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:32,221 you are, like, worried about getting stung, 29 00:02:32,255 --> 00:02:34,533 and then as soon as you start watching them 30 00:02:34,568 --> 00:02:38,951 and seeing them on the combs, communicating with each other, 31 00:02:38,986 --> 00:02:41,091 all of the chemical signals 32 00:02:41,126 --> 00:02:45,199 that keep the worker bees doing the right thing, 33 00:02:45,234 --> 00:02:48,513 it's just so fascinating, so complex, 34 00:02:48,547 --> 00:02:51,101 and it mostly works 35 00:02:51,136 --> 00:02:54,174 until we get in the way of it. 36 00:02:54,208 --> 00:02:58,247 ♪♪ 37 00:03:03,252 --> 00:03:05,219 -Well, most beekeepers, including ourselves -- 38 00:03:05,254 --> 00:03:07,048 now if you're a commercial beekeeper, 39 00:03:07,083 --> 00:03:08,878 for the most part, your honey bees are mounted. 40 00:03:08,912 --> 00:03:10,811 The hives are sitting on pallets -- 41 00:03:10,845 --> 00:03:12,261 They're either four hives on a pallet, 42 00:03:12,295 --> 00:03:14,228 or there are six hives on a pallet. 43 00:03:14,263 --> 00:03:17,197 And everybody's got forklifts. 44 00:03:17,231 --> 00:03:19,095 You know, all-terrain forklifts, 45 00:03:19,129 --> 00:03:21,684 Bobcats, swingers, 46 00:03:21,718 --> 00:03:23,651 articulated loaders. 47 00:03:23,686 --> 00:03:26,240 Most of all of our short-distance bee moving 48 00:03:26,275 --> 00:03:30,037 for pollinating apples and vegetables and so on, 49 00:03:30,071 --> 00:03:33,868 that's all done with straight trucks and so forth. 50 00:03:33,903 --> 00:03:36,043 [ Indistinct conversations ] 51 00:03:40,323 --> 00:03:42,222 Now we start crisscrossing the United States, 52 00:03:42,256 --> 00:03:45,086 that's all done with semis. 53 00:03:47,330 --> 00:03:48,987 Most of the public out here 54 00:03:49,021 --> 00:03:51,161 has probably seen loads of bees going down a road 55 00:03:51,196 --> 00:03:54,406 and didn't even know what they were looking at. 56 00:03:54,441 --> 00:03:58,307 Just looks like something covered up with a big net. 57 00:03:58,341 --> 00:04:00,447 Most of the bee moving all is done at nighttime. 58 00:04:00,481 --> 00:04:02,034 The bees all come home in the evening, 59 00:04:02,069 --> 00:04:03,588 you know, come in after dusk. 60 00:04:03,622 --> 00:04:05,486 So, we wait till the bees are all home, 61 00:04:05,521 --> 00:04:07,281 and then we go out there and load them 62 00:04:07,316 --> 00:04:09,041 and send them on their merry way. 63 00:04:09,076 --> 00:04:11,320 So, when a semi-truck gets to its destination, 64 00:04:11,354 --> 00:04:13,460 there'll be a beekeeper there that's gonna unload that truck 65 00:04:13,494 --> 00:04:15,427 and put them out in the almond orchard, 66 00:04:15,462 --> 00:04:18,810 the apples, the blueberries, or what have you. 67 00:04:18,844 --> 00:04:21,778 The farmer, basically, pays us for bringing the bees in -- 68 00:04:21,813 --> 00:04:23,297 depends what the crop is. 69 00:04:23,332 --> 00:04:24,505 You know, almonds in California, 70 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:26,266 the going rate right now is anywhere 71 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:29,579 from $165 to $225 a hive. 72 00:04:29,614 --> 00:04:32,099 And that's for a period of, you know, five to six weeks 73 00:04:32,133 --> 00:04:33,997 while the almond bloom is. 74 00:04:34,032 --> 00:04:37,898 ♪♪ 75 00:04:44,939 --> 00:04:47,563 [ Whirring ] 76 00:04:58,988 --> 00:05:00,161 ♪♪ 77 00:05:00,196 --> 00:05:01,887 -Many crops require 78 00:05:01,922 --> 00:05:04,338 pollination by insects, 79 00:05:04,373 --> 00:05:06,029 and because the native pollinators 80 00:05:06,064 --> 00:05:08,584 who used to be here are no longer 81 00:05:08,618 --> 00:05:12,173 in large enough quantities to do that pollination, 82 00:05:12,208 --> 00:05:14,141 the managed honey bees have stepped in 83 00:05:14,175 --> 00:05:17,040 to take the role of pollinator. 84 00:05:17,075 --> 00:05:19,388 -Pollination is a basic natural function. 85 00:05:19,422 --> 00:05:22,667 A lot of plants in nature need insects to transfer pollen, 86 00:05:22,701 --> 00:05:26,429 and one of the most efficient is the honey bee. 87 00:05:26,464 --> 00:05:29,777 -So, basically, you know, of all the good stuff we eat, 88 00:05:29,812 --> 00:05:33,125 you know, the vegetables and the fruits and so on, 89 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,231 most of that needs honey bee pollination 90 00:05:35,265 --> 00:05:38,407 or pollination by native pollinators. 91 00:05:38,441 --> 00:05:40,374 -The chemical companies -- they figure we should eat corn, 92 00:05:40,409 --> 00:05:43,722 soybeans, and rice, and that don't need to be pollinated. 93 00:05:43,757 --> 00:05:45,897 And that's what they think we ought to live on. 94 00:05:45,931 --> 00:05:48,140 But if you like your fruits and vegetables and your nuts, 95 00:05:48,175 --> 00:05:50,522 a lot of that stuff need pollinating. 96 00:05:50,557 --> 00:05:53,663 A lot of wild insects can do the job, 97 00:05:53,698 --> 00:05:57,529 but not as well as bringing in a commercial beekeeper 98 00:05:57,564 --> 00:05:59,738 to put down a thousand colonies in one area 99 00:05:59,773 --> 00:06:04,260 and give a good blast to the pollination. 100 00:06:04,294 --> 00:06:06,849 -Our business has got two different ends to it. 101 00:06:06,883 --> 00:06:09,403 One of them is producing honey, but, of course, 102 00:06:09,438 --> 00:06:11,198 the reason them honey bees are here in the first place 103 00:06:11,232 --> 00:06:12,579 is to pollinate our crops, you know, 104 00:06:12,613 --> 00:06:14,166 'cause one out of every three bites of food 105 00:06:14,201 --> 00:06:16,237 we put in our mouths comes 106 00:06:16,272 --> 00:06:18,239 from honey bee pollination. 107 00:06:18,274 --> 00:06:20,380 -I think the general public should know 108 00:06:20,414 --> 00:06:24,487 that our food system is threatened 109 00:06:24,522 --> 00:06:27,352 by the fact that the bees are in trouble. 110 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:30,942 And they should care about that because they eat food. 111 00:06:30,976 --> 00:06:35,187 -So, the problem is that native pollinators have disappeared 112 00:06:35,222 --> 00:06:37,327 and farming has become a lot bigger, 113 00:06:37,362 --> 00:06:40,020 and so due to all this, 114 00:06:40,054 --> 00:06:41,435 you know, now they need beekeepers 115 00:06:41,470 --> 00:06:43,679 that can move bees from one place to the other. 116 00:06:43,713 --> 00:06:46,406 And, of course, the only bees that are really movable, 117 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,062 that you could put on the back of a truck 118 00:06:48,097 --> 00:06:49,270 and truck them all over the place 119 00:06:49,305 --> 00:06:51,134 is honey bees. 120 00:06:51,169 --> 00:06:53,171 The big pollination in this country is almonds, 121 00:06:53,205 --> 00:06:54,552 which is in the dead of the winter. 122 00:06:54,586 --> 00:06:56,588 The almond tree's not very smartin that way, 123 00:06:56,623 --> 00:07:00,592 because blooming in the end of February, in through March. 124 00:07:00,627 --> 00:07:01,973 So, in California, 125 00:07:02,007 --> 00:07:05,597 now today, there's close to a million acres of almonds. 126 00:07:05,632 --> 00:07:07,323 It takes two hives of bees to the acre 127 00:07:07,357 --> 00:07:08,462 to pollinate them almonds. 128 00:07:08,497 --> 00:07:09,912 So these bees got to crisscross 129 00:07:09,946 --> 00:07:11,431 the United States to get there. 130 00:07:11,465 --> 00:07:14,157 Our business, basically -- it's a timing situation, 131 00:07:14,192 --> 00:07:16,366 that orchard or blueberry grower 132 00:07:16,401 --> 00:07:18,645 or almond grower, or vegetable grower, 133 00:07:18,679 --> 00:07:22,165 his livelihood is depending on him growing a crop. 134 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,857 And if that crop isn't pollinated 135 00:07:23,891 --> 00:07:27,550 when the flowers are in bloom, we got a short window there. 136 00:07:27,585 --> 00:07:30,104 When he picks up the phone and calls us -- 137 00:07:30,139 --> 00:07:32,037 "In two days, I need bees" -- 138 00:07:32,072 --> 00:07:34,971 it's not two weeks, or two months. 139 00:07:35,006 --> 00:07:37,042 He needs bees in two days. 140 00:07:37,077 --> 00:07:39,735 ♪♪ 141 00:07:39,769 --> 00:07:42,220 -Beekeepers are kind of like the last of the cowboys 142 00:07:42,254 --> 00:07:44,394 you've seen in the Westerns. 143 00:07:44,429 --> 00:07:48,502 We migrate the bees from up in the northern prairies 144 00:07:48,537 --> 00:07:50,884 all down here to the Bakersfield area, 145 00:07:50,918 --> 00:07:55,026 and we keep 'em in the west side of the valley. 146 00:07:55,060 --> 00:07:57,649 When the spring bloom comes, we'll take the bees, 147 00:07:57,684 --> 00:08:00,169 and we'll spread 'em from the Turlock area 148 00:08:00,203 --> 00:08:03,828 down to the southern Bakersfield area. 149 00:08:03,862 --> 00:08:05,795 The almond pollination is 150 00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:09,937 the biggest pollination event in the U.S. bee industry. 151 00:08:09,972 --> 00:08:13,941 It takes almost the entire national bee supply. 152 00:08:13,976 --> 00:08:16,012 ♪♪ 153 00:08:16,047 --> 00:08:20,016 -And so a semi-truck will hold somewhere around 154 00:08:20,051 --> 00:08:22,605 400 to 450 hives of bees. 155 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,331 And so you start thinking about this. 156 00:08:24,365 --> 00:08:27,645 It takes somewhere in the neighborhood 157 00:08:27,679 --> 00:08:32,063 of two million hives of bees in California. 158 00:08:32,097 --> 00:08:33,547 Say, you know, 159 00:08:33,582 --> 00:08:35,273 a couple hundred thousand of them are already there, 160 00:08:35,307 --> 00:08:37,655 maybe 250,000 of them are already there, 161 00:08:37,689 --> 00:08:39,795 so that means the rest of those beehives 162 00:08:39,829 --> 00:08:41,417 have to come from someplace else. 163 00:08:41,451 --> 00:08:43,453 So there's a lot of truckloads of bees 164 00:08:43,488 --> 00:08:47,216 crisscrossing the United States. 165 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:48,562 -Our honey bees get picked up and moved 166 00:08:48,597 --> 00:08:50,115 almost 22 times a year. 167 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:52,324 And a lot of people think that this is one of the reasons 168 00:08:52,359 --> 00:08:54,637 why our bees are not surviving like they used to. 169 00:08:54,672 --> 00:08:57,571 But we've been pollinating fruits and vegetables and nuts 170 00:08:57,606 --> 00:09:00,194 since the '70s, '60s, '50s, 171 00:09:00,229 --> 00:09:03,543 and we haven't had these kind of losses. 172 00:09:03,577 --> 00:09:06,200 -You know, it depends on whose numbers you look at, 173 00:09:06,235 --> 00:09:08,927 but the USDA numbers say 174 00:09:08,962 --> 00:09:12,482 we have somewhere around 2.6 million hives. 175 00:09:12,517 --> 00:09:15,969 And the Bee Informed Partnershipout of Maryland's 176 00:09:16,003 --> 00:09:19,213 been showing -- been losing 30% to 40% of our hives. 177 00:09:19,248 --> 00:09:24,771 So a 30% loss there puts us downto about 1.8 million hives, 178 00:09:24,805 --> 00:09:26,842 and that's about what the almond industry takes, 179 00:09:26,876 --> 00:09:30,500 so we're almost at 100% utilization 180 00:09:30,535 --> 00:09:33,676 of the bee supply. 181 00:09:33,711 --> 00:09:39,199 [ Bees buzzing ] 182 00:09:39,233 --> 00:09:41,063 -We rely on the managed honey bee 183 00:09:41,097 --> 00:09:44,860 for our relatively inexpensive fruits and vegetables 184 00:09:44,894 --> 00:09:47,310 that we have in the grocery story, 185 00:09:47,345 --> 00:09:49,968 and this means that they're in an area 186 00:09:50,003 --> 00:09:53,040 that is treated with pesticides on a regular basis 187 00:09:53,075 --> 00:09:55,353 and also densely packed 188 00:09:55,387 --> 00:09:57,286 with agricultural crops, 189 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,460 leaving very few wildflowers. 190 00:09:59,495 --> 00:10:00,807 Once the crop has bloomed, 191 00:10:00,841 --> 00:10:03,637 there's nothing there for the bees to eat. 192 00:10:03,672 --> 00:10:06,606 For example, the almond bloom in California -- 193 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,506 very intense activity for the bees for about a month, 194 00:10:10,540 --> 00:10:11,783 and then the beekeepers 195 00:10:11,818 --> 00:10:13,543 can't leave their bees there afterwards 196 00:10:13,578 --> 00:10:16,581 because there's nothing more for the bees to eat. 197 00:10:16,616 --> 00:10:17,789 The managed honey bee 198 00:10:17,824 --> 00:10:21,275 has the beekeeper helping them survive 199 00:10:21,310 --> 00:10:22,863 because it's in everyone's interest 200 00:10:22,898 --> 00:10:24,347 for the bees to survive, 201 00:10:24,382 --> 00:10:26,626 and so they do move their bees 202 00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:29,145 to places that have good forage, 203 00:10:29,180 --> 00:10:30,699 away from threats, 204 00:10:30,733 --> 00:10:32,666 although that's not always possible. 205 00:10:32,701 --> 00:10:35,565 The native pollinators are in deep trouble. 206 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,774 They're in trouble because 207 00:10:36,808 --> 00:10:39,431 they can't move away from agriculture. 208 00:10:39,466 --> 00:10:41,710 We're not monitoring the populations 209 00:10:41,744 --> 00:10:43,573 as well as the managed honey bees 210 00:10:43,608 --> 00:10:45,541 but we are seeing in certain places 211 00:10:45,575 --> 00:10:47,750 that their populations have plummeted. 212 00:10:47,785 --> 00:10:50,304 One, the rusty patched bumble bee, 213 00:10:50,339 --> 00:10:52,272 was just listed as an endangered species 214 00:10:52,306 --> 00:10:55,862 and a lot has to do with agriculture 215 00:10:55,896 --> 00:10:58,968 and pesticide use, in particular. 216 00:10:59,003 --> 00:11:01,143 -It's so important what happens in California 217 00:11:01,177 --> 00:11:03,628 'cause it sets up the table for the rest of the year, 218 00:11:03,663 --> 00:11:05,526 because right after the almonds -- 219 00:11:05,561 --> 00:11:08,046 Almonds are the earliest crop in the spring, 220 00:11:08,081 --> 00:11:10,739 and after this, most of the bees will go either 221 00:11:10,773 --> 00:11:12,464 into a secondary pollination 222 00:11:12,499 --> 00:11:15,951 or into a breeding program to replace the old queens 223 00:11:15,985 --> 00:11:19,748 and to make up for the previous year's death losses. 224 00:11:19,782 --> 00:11:22,336 It's really important on how bees come out here 225 00:11:22,371 --> 00:11:24,338 and the Almond Board of California 226 00:11:24,373 --> 00:11:26,582 has done some really good extension work, 227 00:11:26,616 --> 00:11:29,619 trying to educateall the farmers across the state 228 00:11:29,654 --> 00:11:32,312 on what the best management practices are 229 00:11:32,346 --> 00:11:34,072 for bee conservation. 230 00:11:34,107 --> 00:11:37,662 But it's kind of sad sometimes, you know. 231 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:40,147 A farmer or a rancher has so many obligations, 232 00:11:40,182 --> 00:11:43,461 he doesn't have time to stay up with the latest technology 233 00:11:43,495 --> 00:11:45,014 until there's a bad event. 234 00:11:45,049 --> 00:11:49,536 ♪♪ 235 00:11:51,538 --> 00:11:53,574 -Bees are important for all kinds of reasons. 236 00:11:53,609 --> 00:11:56,508 They're important because we're not capable 237 00:11:56,543 --> 00:12:00,133 of making all kinds of things grow by ourselves. 238 00:12:00,167 --> 00:12:02,135 It's not some kind of magic, 239 00:12:02,169 --> 00:12:04,758 it's a deep biological process, 240 00:12:04,793 --> 00:12:06,726 of which, bees are a part. 241 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,142 But bees are also important to us 242 00:12:09,176 --> 00:12:13,318 because they're a very good kind of sentinel signal 243 00:12:13,353 --> 00:12:15,838 for the trouble that we're in. 244 00:12:15,873 --> 00:12:18,703 There they are every day, out in the world, 245 00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:20,429 foraging through every corner 246 00:12:20,463 --> 00:12:23,743 of the rural landscape. 247 00:12:23,777 --> 00:12:28,886 If suddenly, one year, 25% of them show up missing, 248 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,646 that means there is something wrong 249 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:34,201 with that landscape. 250 00:12:34,236 --> 00:12:37,239 -There's been a pretty dramatic change in agriculture 251 00:12:37,273 --> 00:12:40,138 over the last 20 years or so 252 00:12:40,173 --> 00:12:44,625 in the types of pesticides that are being used. 253 00:12:44,660 --> 00:12:48,422 In 1996, Congress passed the Food Quality Protection Act 254 00:12:48,457 --> 00:12:52,944 that required a reevaluation of all of the existing pesticides, 255 00:12:52,979 --> 00:12:57,121 and the ones that were really a big target 256 00:12:57,155 --> 00:13:00,089 because they were so problematicfor worker poisonings 257 00:13:00,124 --> 00:13:03,437 were these nerve toxins called organophosphates 258 00:13:03,472 --> 00:13:05,129 and carbamate pesticides. 259 00:13:05,163 --> 00:13:08,822 Those have dropped dramatically in use. 260 00:13:08,857 --> 00:13:11,721 Many of them have been pulled out of the system altogether. 261 00:13:11,756 --> 00:13:15,760 And what came into replace them are a group of pesticides 262 00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:17,589 called the neonicotinoids, 263 00:13:17,624 --> 00:13:20,040 and starting in 1994, 264 00:13:20,075 --> 00:13:22,422 the first one was registered in the U.S., 265 00:13:22,456 --> 00:13:24,320 and every year, more and more crops 266 00:13:24,355 --> 00:13:25,735 and more and more acres 267 00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:29,049 are treated with these types of pesticides. 268 00:13:29,084 --> 00:13:31,845 These are very problematic for bees, 269 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,745 and while the organophosphates were highly toxic to bees, 270 00:13:35,780 --> 00:13:38,162 they degraded relatively quickly. 271 00:13:38,196 --> 00:13:40,889 The neonicotinoids take years 272 00:13:40,923 --> 00:13:42,856 to degrade in the environment, 273 00:13:42,891 --> 00:13:44,720 and what that means is, 274 00:13:44,754 --> 00:13:46,687 you're going to continue to poison the bees 275 00:13:46,722 --> 00:13:49,552 for many years after you apply these pesticides. 276 00:13:49,587 --> 00:13:51,623 They're so widely marketed and so widely used 277 00:13:51,658 --> 00:13:55,282 that they're, really, everywhere now. 278 00:13:55,317 --> 00:13:58,976 -Neonicotinoids basically work by breaking down immune system, 279 00:13:59,010 --> 00:14:01,254 cause the insects to lose their memory, 280 00:14:01,288 --> 00:14:03,014 make them sick. 281 00:14:03,049 --> 00:14:06,155 Whether it's the insect or it's a human, you know, 282 00:14:06,190 --> 00:14:09,779 your immune system's broke down,you don't want to eat, 283 00:14:09,814 --> 00:14:11,851 and that's exactly what we got going on 284 00:14:11,885 --> 00:14:14,163 inside these honey bee hives, and, eventually, you know, 285 00:14:14,198 --> 00:14:17,477 we're going to somebody's funeral. 286 00:14:17,511 --> 00:14:19,548 -Bees, it turns out, are very good 287 00:14:19,582 --> 00:14:22,723 at picking up pesticides in the environment. 288 00:14:22,758 --> 00:14:23,966 It seems like even 289 00:14:24,001 --> 00:14:25,657 the smallest amount of pesticide, 290 00:14:25,692 --> 00:14:29,730 even if pesticides have been sprayed months 291 00:14:29,765 --> 00:14:31,905 or even a year or two earlier, 292 00:14:31,940 --> 00:14:35,598 there seems to be residues in the environment, 293 00:14:35,633 --> 00:14:38,118 and the bees seem to pick these things up 294 00:14:38,153 --> 00:14:40,810 and actually bring them back to the hive. 295 00:14:40,845 --> 00:14:42,985 It was shocking how much pesticide 296 00:14:43,020 --> 00:14:45,781 and the diversity of pesticides that we were finding -- 297 00:14:45,815 --> 00:14:48,335 herbicides, fungicides, growth regulators, 298 00:14:48,370 --> 00:14:49,889 insecticides, 299 00:14:49,923 --> 00:14:53,202 all of them showed up in samples that we collected 300 00:14:53,237 --> 00:14:55,584 and looked at across the country. 301 00:14:55,618 --> 00:14:58,311 It was -- It was disturbing. 302 00:14:58,345 --> 00:14:59,933 Most pesticides are lipophilic, 303 00:14:59,968 --> 00:15:02,004 meaning they want to dissolve in a fat, 304 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:03,005 and so pollen 305 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,456 and particularly wax are fats. 306 00:15:05,490 --> 00:15:09,149 Wax, it turns out, is almost like a fossil record. 307 00:15:09,184 --> 00:15:11,289 The wax combs that the bees live in, 308 00:15:11,324 --> 00:15:14,016 that they put their food in, that the brood is produced in, 309 00:15:14,051 --> 00:15:18,918 accumulates and holds onto these pesticide contaminants, 310 00:15:18,952 --> 00:15:21,023 and so it's very hard for a beekeeper 311 00:15:21,058 --> 00:15:23,508 who's doing crop pollination to protect their bees 312 00:15:23,543 --> 00:15:25,890 from pesticides -- very hard. 313 00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:29,342 -The effect of pesticides on bees of all sorts, 314 00:15:29,376 --> 00:15:31,482 our native species, as well as honey bees, 315 00:15:31,516 --> 00:15:34,692 has been documented in North America, 316 00:15:34,726 --> 00:15:37,108 and now it's being documented worldwide. 317 00:15:37,143 --> 00:15:39,179 And this is a real -- a real concern, 318 00:15:39,214 --> 00:15:42,769 that pesticides seem to be playing a key role 319 00:15:42,803 --> 00:15:44,426 in the downturn 320 00:15:44,460 --> 00:15:48,464 of our bee populations. 321 00:15:48,499 --> 00:15:50,294 -The fighting man came home. 322 00:15:50,328 --> 00:15:52,572 Families that have been torn apart were reunited. 323 00:15:52,606 --> 00:15:55,023 -Something changed after World War II 324 00:15:55,057 --> 00:15:58,819 in America for agriculture. 325 00:15:58,854 --> 00:16:01,581 The advent of synthetic chemicals 326 00:16:01,615 --> 00:16:02,996 that could be used 327 00:16:03,031 --> 00:16:05,516 to poison insects was a big one. 328 00:16:05,550 --> 00:16:06,862 -Man fights back. 329 00:16:06,896 --> 00:16:08,968 Modern insecticides have come into being 330 00:16:09,002 --> 00:16:11,901 as a hoped for poison gas to stop the enemy. 331 00:16:11,936 --> 00:16:13,593 The stakes are high -- 332 00:16:13,627 --> 00:16:15,491 millions of dollars of valuable foods 333 00:16:15,526 --> 00:16:16,699 stand as the reward. 334 00:16:16,734 --> 00:16:18,046 -And synthetic chemists, 335 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,013 taking chemicals from the paints 336 00:16:20,048 --> 00:16:23,637 and pigments industry and other industrial uses, 337 00:16:23,672 --> 00:16:24,949 and evaluating those 338 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:27,262 for their potential use in agriculture 339 00:16:27,296 --> 00:16:29,057 really accelerated the development 340 00:16:29,091 --> 00:16:31,818 of synthetic pesticide production. 341 00:16:31,852 --> 00:16:33,406 Natural molecules 342 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,960 like nicotine and pyrethrum 343 00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:39,032 that have an inherent property for killing insects, 344 00:16:39,067 --> 00:16:41,103 could those be improved upon? 345 00:16:41,138 --> 00:16:44,555 And the answer was yes, and without any other regard 346 00:16:44,589 --> 00:16:47,799 about what placing that chemicalin the environment might mean, 347 00:16:47,834 --> 00:16:49,456 short-term or long-term, 348 00:16:49,491 --> 00:16:53,391 at first it seemed like this was the silver bullet. 349 00:16:53,426 --> 00:16:54,910 There are major differences 350 00:16:54,944 --> 00:16:57,947 between the United States and Europe and other places, 351 00:16:57,982 --> 00:16:59,915 in a philosophical basis, 352 00:16:59,949 --> 00:17:03,229 by which risks for pesticides are evaluated, 353 00:17:03,263 --> 00:17:06,163 and in the European Union, the precautionary principle, 354 00:17:06,197 --> 00:17:09,028 which states that, if we don't understand fully 355 00:17:09,062 --> 00:17:12,100 the risk of using something, we should not use it 356 00:17:12,134 --> 00:17:15,034 until we have that greater understanding. 357 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:16,311 Whereas in the United States, 358 00:17:16,345 --> 00:17:18,175 without the precautionary principle, 359 00:17:18,209 --> 00:17:19,935 we say, "Well, let's take the risk, 360 00:17:19,969 --> 00:17:22,972 and we'll find out if it's not working and readjust." 361 00:17:23,007 --> 00:17:26,735 And that's a matter of law that the EPA's bound by, 362 00:17:26,769 --> 00:17:28,288 but I would really like to see us 363 00:17:28,323 --> 00:17:32,085 reevaluate that situation from a policymaking standpoint. 364 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:34,191 -I mean, nobody's looking at what damage 365 00:17:34,225 --> 00:17:36,227 we're doing here to our environment. 366 00:17:36,262 --> 00:17:38,195 Some of the stuff we're using is a neurotoxin 367 00:17:38,229 --> 00:17:40,818 that's gonna destroy our health and children 368 00:17:40,852 --> 00:17:43,993 and everything else, but we're spraying it 369 00:17:44,028 --> 00:17:47,066 'cause somebody has more say and more power than we do. 370 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:50,379 ♪♪ 371 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:26,105 ♪♪ 372 00:18:28,659 --> 00:18:29,970 -Yesterday, I got a call 373 00:18:30,005 --> 00:18:34,251 from one of the partners of this ranch, 374 00:18:34,285 --> 00:18:35,769 said, you know, 375 00:18:35,804 --> 00:18:37,840 "Adee, the bees are dying. 376 00:18:37,875 --> 00:18:39,221 Come up here and figure out why." 377 00:18:39,256 --> 00:18:42,466 And so I jumped in the pickup and came up here. 378 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:46,194 And it was very obvious it was an acute bee kill, 379 00:18:46,228 --> 00:18:49,473 you know, some type of insecticide or fungicide 380 00:18:49,507 --> 00:18:53,408 or some synergistic reaction with chemicals around the area 381 00:18:53,442 --> 00:18:54,995 was killing the bees. 382 00:18:55,030 --> 00:18:57,101 They were dying today as they were looking at them. 383 00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:59,034 The first sets they were looking at, 384 00:18:59,068 --> 00:19:00,553 we seen bees laying on the ground. 385 00:19:00,587 --> 00:19:03,728 We found a queen staggering out in front of a hive. 386 00:19:03,763 --> 00:19:05,868 Anyway, that's what we want to do, 387 00:19:05,903 --> 00:19:07,422 is find out what's affecting it. 388 00:19:07,456 --> 00:19:09,458 This family spent a lot of moneyfor these bees, 389 00:19:09,493 --> 00:19:12,081 and they're counting on them for their pollination. 390 00:19:12,116 --> 00:19:14,394 And it would be terrible to think that they were doing 391 00:19:14,429 --> 00:19:18,640 something that was completely legal and by the book, 392 00:19:18,674 --> 00:19:20,228 yet it was hurting the bees, 393 00:19:20,262 --> 00:19:22,851 and if a neighbor was being sloppy and hurting the bees, 394 00:19:22,885 --> 00:19:24,197 that would be really bad, too, 395 00:19:24,232 --> 00:19:27,476 but something's definitely hurting the bees. 396 00:19:27,511 --> 00:19:29,927 -How many are you here? -We just finished eight. 397 00:19:29,961 --> 00:19:31,204 -Okay, that's fine. -Yeah, yeah. 398 00:19:31,239 --> 00:19:32,930 That's fine, good. -And that'll give you -- 399 00:19:32,964 --> 00:19:34,759 That'll give you enough to compare. 400 00:19:34,794 --> 00:19:38,660 -Yeah, well, when they do the chemical analysis, I know, 401 00:19:38,694 --> 00:19:43,216 yeah, they'll have enough to tease out a difference. 402 00:19:43,251 --> 00:19:45,253 Nobody's going to want to admit that this happened 403 00:19:45,287 --> 00:19:47,703 because, you know, this man spent 404 00:19:47,738 --> 00:19:50,879 hundreds of thousands of dollarsto rent these bees. 405 00:19:50,913 --> 00:19:52,432 And he has, probably, 406 00:19:52,467 --> 00:19:55,194 millions of dollars worth of nuts at risk. 407 00:19:55,228 --> 00:19:57,196 And, you know, the guy down the road 408 00:19:57,230 --> 00:19:58,542 is not going to come up and say, 409 00:19:58,576 --> 00:20:00,958 "Hey, well I put a cocktail on my apricots 410 00:20:00,992 --> 00:20:02,856 that happened to kill your bees." 411 00:20:02,891 --> 00:20:04,306 Nobody's going to say anything like that 412 00:20:04,341 --> 00:20:06,791 because they don't want the liability. 413 00:20:06,826 --> 00:20:10,519 So, anyway, it's really hard to track these things down. 414 00:20:10,554 --> 00:20:13,246 You know, this is why we have to have lab work done. 415 00:20:13,281 --> 00:20:17,768 So, you know, it can be prevented. 416 00:20:17,802 --> 00:20:20,288 You can't bring the dead back to life, 417 00:20:20,322 --> 00:20:24,533 but, you know, you can keep more from getting killed. 418 00:20:24,568 --> 00:20:26,984 It's really important to have good stewardship 419 00:20:27,018 --> 00:20:28,537 while they're in the almonds 420 00:20:28,572 --> 00:20:30,401 so they're available for everything else. 421 00:20:30,436 --> 00:20:33,956 This is the crop100% of the bees are exposed to. 422 00:20:33,991 --> 00:20:37,788 How bees leave this crop is how they start the next crop. 423 00:20:37,822 --> 00:20:40,031 After this, it will be a real rush 424 00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:42,758 to get the bees to the apples and the cherries 425 00:20:42,793 --> 00:20:46,417 and after that, the seed crops across the nation. 426 00:20:46,452 --> 00:20:49,696 You know, if we put the same economic value 427 00:20:49,731 --> 00:20:53,528 on a honey bee as cattle, you know, we wouldn't have 428 00:20:53,562 --> 00:20:56,772 a pesticide investigator out there for this kind of losses. 429 00:20:56,807 --> 00:20:58,705 We'd have the FBI out there. 430 00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:01,432 Honey bees are kind of thought of as, you know, 431 00:21:01,467 --> 00:21:03,572 oh, well, they'll just make more. 432 00:21:03,607 --> 00:21:05,954 People talk about the financial viability 433 00:21:05,988 --> 00:21:07,231 of the bee industry, 434 00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,682 but what I think I'm more concerned with 435 00:21:09,716 --> 00:21:12,478 is the biological viability of the bee industry. 436 00:21:12,512 --> 00:21:14,963 It's like, can we divide them fast enough 437 00:21:14,997 --> 00:21:16,930 to make up for the losses? 438 00:21:16,965 --> 00:21:22,315 ♪♪ 439 00:21:42,818 --> 00:21:45,442 [ Engine idling ] 440 00:21:57,592 --> 00:21:59,697 [ Hydraulics hiss ] 441 00:22:03,356 --> 00:22:06,808 -Shut that thing off, make less noise. 442 00:22:06,842 --> 00:22:08,879 Phone here before I lose that. 443 00:22:08,913 --> 00:22:12,434 -How many you putting on? -46 pallets. 444 00:22:12,469 --> 00:22:15,748 -What's that come out to? -That's three rows -- 445 00:22:15,782 --> 00:22:17,853 That's five rows on top. 446 00:22:17,888 --> 00:22:19,407 Them things are jumpy. 447 00:22:19,441 --> 00:22:22,720 Put three rows of two,and the rest of them will go up. 448 00:22:22,755 --> 00:22:26,621 Warmer tonight than it was last night. 449 00:22:28,174 --> 00:22:31,073 [ Bees buzzing ] 450 00:22:31,108 --> 00:22:33,800 They're kind of pissy. 451 00:22:33,835 --> 00:22:36,285 What did you do to get them all pissed off today? 452 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,529 -We took 300 hives out of here last night. 453 00:22:38,564 --> 00:22:40,842 What do you expect? 454 00:22:40,876 --> 00:22:43,500 [ Engine revs ] 455 00:23:14,047 --> 00:23:16,395 -I'm a lot slower getting out of here 456 00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:18,707 than I used to be. [ Chuckles ] 457 00:23:22,780 --> 00:23:26,922 Just throw some straps on them, down the road. 458 00:23:26,957 --> 00:23:28,579 -Hold on. 459 00:23:28,614 --> 00:23:31,927 -Well, we just loaded 46 pallets of bees, 460 00:23:31,962 --> 00:23:34,620 180-some hives. 461 00:23:34,654 --> 00:23:37,208 We're going to two apple orchards 462 00:23:37,243 --> 00:23:39,452 out around Martinsburg, 463 00:23:39,487 --> 00:23:42,386 Roaring Spring, Pennsylvania. 464 00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:43,732 Drop these bees off at the orchard 465 00:23:43,767 --> 00:23:46,217 and come home -- come back home and go to bed 466 00:23:46,252 --> 00:23:48,461 in the wee hours of the morning. 467 00:23:48,496 --> 00:23:50,290 Spring came early this year. 468 00:23:50,325 --> 00:23:52,810 Wasn't supposed to, but it did. 469 00:23:52,845 --> 00:23:56,573 Apples are just roughly 10 days early. 470 00:23:56,607 --> 00:23:58,333 -Neil, the guy we're going to tonight, 471 00:23:58,367 --> 00:24:00,300 told me he had some early apples out. 472 00:24:00,335 --> 00:24:01,647 He wasn't really much worried about them 473 00:24:01,681 --> 00:24:03,234 because he's got quite a few native pollinators 474 00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:04,443 around there. 475 00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:06,479 [ Bees buzz, birds chirping ] 476 00:24:06,514 --> 00:24:09,102 Farmers, apple growers, apple growers especially, 477 00:24:09,137 --> 00:24:11,415 are seeing a need to promote, 478 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:15,246 you know, native pollinators and, you know, 479 00:24:15,281 --> 00:24:18,698 preserve what they got in the woods around them. 480 00:24:18,733 --> 00:24:22,806 ♪♪ 481 00:24:47,831 --> 00:24:52,111 ♪♪ 482 00:24:52,145 --> 00:24:53,630 -Peaches, cherries, apples -- 483 00:24:53,664 --> 00:24:55,908 they have to have so many degrees below 40. 484 00:24:55,942 --> 00:24:57,703 Peaches have less requirement than apples. 485 00:24:57,737 --> 00:24:58,911 Apples have the most. 486 00:24:58,945 --> 00:25:01,430 Most of them at around 1,000, 1,200 hours 487 00:25:01,465 --> 00:25:03,778 below 40 degrees to bloom. 488 00:25:03,812 --> 00:25:07,540 Once you reach those degrees, they can come any time. 489 00:25:07,575 --> 00:25:09,300 So, if it's a cold winter, they already have 490 00:25:09,335 --> 00:25:12,545 the chilling requirement in by early March, 491 00:25:12,580 --> 00:25:13,995 so as soon as it warms up, 492 00:25:14,029 --> 00:25:15,928 they're ready to move, 493 00:25:15,962 --> 00:25:17,550 and that's what happens. 494 00:25:17,585 --> 00:25:19,448 We're gonna go to another place,and then ten more off, 495 00:25:19,483 --> 00:25:23,004 and that will be all for me. 496 00:25:23,038 --> 00:25:27,387 ♪♪ 497 00:25:31,391 --> 00:25:33,255 -If I had a dollar for every time 498 00:25:33,290 --> 00:25:35,879 I went on and off that trailer... 499 00:25:35,913 --> 00:25:37,294 I think I did have a dollar 500 00:25:37,328 --> 00:25:40,400 for every time I went on and offthat trailer. 501 00:25:40,435 --> 00:25:42,195 Him and I were just having 502 00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:43,714 this discussion.-We were having that discussion. 503 00:25:43,749 --> 00:25:45,336 -Having this discussion here the last five minutes. 504 00:25:45,371 --> 00:25:46,890 How long is this thing going to last? 505 00:25:46,924 --> 00:25:48,719 -Oh, I would say we'll have them till probably 506 00:25:48,754 --> 00:25:50,203 the end of next week, at least. 507 00:25:50,238 --> 00:25:51,550 -I think. -Those are Fuji right there, 508 00:25:51,584 --> 00:25:54,345 and their flowers are barely open yet. 509 00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:57,210 But I have Empires just down here, 510 00:25:57,245 --> 00:25:58,902 and they're in full bloom. 511 00:25:58,936 --> 00:26:01,318 Does anybody document where the wild bees are having trouble? 512 00:26:01,352 --> 00:26:02,664 Or nobody says, there isn't any wild bees? 513 00:26:02,699 --> 00:26:06,910 -Oh, yeah, there's a guy at Cornell University 514 00:26:06,944 --> 00:26:08,221 that's done some work. 515 00:26:08,256 --> 00:26:10,465 -I mean, we use as many -- probably more -- 516 00:26:10,499 --> 00:26:11,811 We use more chemicals than dairy. 517 00:26:11,846 --> 00:26:14,193 We don't use as much herbicide as they do. 518 00:26:14,227 --> 00:26:15,643 You know your salesman comes around, 519 00:26:15,677 --> 00:26:17,714 and he expects you to buy something 520 00:26:17,748 --> 00:26:20,509 every time he come around. -I know. 521 00:26:20,544 --> 00:26:23,098 [ Engine revs in distance ] 522 00:26:23,133 --> 00:26:26,274 ♪♪ 523 00:26:37,285 --> 00:26:39,494 -Is it possible to grow fruit 524 00:26:39,528 --> 00:26:42,083 without insecticides and fungicides? 525 00:26:42,117 --> 00:26:43,705 Well, yeah, it is. 526 00:26:43,740 --> 00:26:45,638 Probably not the fruits we have today 527 00:26:45,673 --> 00:26:48,399 because, you know, obviously, my great-grandfather 528 00:26:48,434 --> 00:26:50,539 and great-great-grandfather were growing fruit, 529 00:26:50,574 --> 00:26:52,369 and they didn't have pesticides. 530 00:26:52,403 --> 00:26:53,888 I don't know what the yields were, 531 00:26:53,922 --> 00:26:55,648 and I'm sure there were some disasters. 532 00:26:55,683 --> 00:26:57,754 But, you know, the consumer today 533 00:26:57,788 --> 00:27:00,135 is so used to a perfect piece of fruit, 534 00:27:00,170 --> 00:27:01,896 and they can get it year round. 535 00:27:01,930 --> 00:27:05,796 I don't know that they'd want to go back to the varieties 536 00:27:05,831 --> 00:27:07,349 that were growing, 537 00:27:07,384 --> 00:27:10,594 that are resistant to insects and diseases. 538 00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:14,529 You know, the consumers in those days before pesticides 539 00:27:14,563 --> 00:27:17,463 would put up with, you know, a mark on an apple. 540 00:27:17,497 --> 00:27:20,259 They would just be happy to have a piece of fruit. 541 00:27:20,293 --> 00:27:22,019 -Fruit growing without chemicals -- 542 00:27:22,054 --> 00:27:25,644 I'd be happy because it's a major expense for me. 543 00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:27,887 That and labor are my two biggest expenses. 544 00:27:27,922 --> 00:27:29,751 And if I could cut way back on my use, 545 00:27:29,786 --> 00:27:31,304 I would tomorrow. 546 00:27:31,339 --> 00:27:34,169 And we don't use any more than we have to, 547 00:27:34,204 --> 00:27:36,137 but we have to use it 548 00:27:36,171 --> 00:27:39,519 to get the fruit that we want, that people want to buy. 549 00:27:39,554 --> 00:27:43,351 Varieties that we grow are Ginger Gold, Gala, 550 00:27:43,385 --> 00:27:45,146 Honeycrisp, Golden Delicious, 551 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:48,563 Red Delicious, McIntosh, 552 00:27:48,597 --> 00:27:53,085 Fuji, Jonagolds, and Empire. 553 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,845 We start now, start in spring. 554 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,467 The trees will come out in the spring 555 00:27:56,502 --> 00:27:59,056 when it warms up, comes into bloom. 556 00:27:59,091 --> 00:28:00,368 When the blooms starts to open, 557 00:28:00,402 --> 00:28:02,439 we want bees to come in to pollinate, 558 00:28:02,473 --> 00:28:04,337 'cause if we have -- we need pollination. 559 00:28:04,372 --> 00:28:07,168 We need to move the pollen to the ovary, 560 00:28:07,202 --> 00:28:09,584 'cause then it grows down, and that's what forms an apple. 561 00:28:09,618 --> 00:28:11,517 Well, the bees are one of the most efficient ways 562 00:28:11,551 --> 00:28:15,141 to transfer the pollen from the flower to flower. 563 00:28:15,176 --> 00:28:17,799 On a typical apple bud, when it comes open, 564 00:28:17,834 --> 00:28:20,077 there's usually five to six blooms on that bud. 565 00:28:20,112 --> 00:28:22,148 But there'll be one that will come out first. 566 00:28:22,183 --> 00:28:23,598 It's called the king flower. 567 00:28:23,632 --> 00:28:25,738 That's the flower that we would like to set, 568 00:28:25,773 --> 00:28:28,672 'cause that gives the biggest apple. 569 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:32,296 If that sets like this one -- I'll just pull this off. 570 00:28:32,331 --> 00:28:34,126 If they all set, there's five apples -- 571 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,922 If they would all set, there's five apples on there. 572 00:28:36,956 --> 00:28:39,959 And that's more than I want. I only want one. 573 00:28:39,994 --> 00:28:41,754 So, I have to have some come off. 574 00:28:41,789 --> 00:28:44,067 We do mostly chemical thinning, 575 00:28:44,101 --> 00:28:45,793 and it'll cause the fruit to fall off. 576 00:28:45,827 --> 00:28:48,312 We don't do any flower or blossom thinning, 577 00:28:48,347 --> 00:28:49,658 as they called it. 578 00:28:49,693 --> 00:28:50,901 This will be the -- 579 00:28:50,936 --> 00:28:52,731 This here will be the stem of the apple. 580 00:28:52,765 --> 00:28:55,285 If this develops into an apple, this would be the stem, 581 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:56,907 where it's attached, 582 00:28:56,942 --> 00:28:59,807 and this brown part at the bottom here is 583 00:28:59,841 --> 00:29:02,188 actually the start of the form of the apple right here. 584 00:29:02,223 --> 00:29:05,467 We have to put on a fungicide, which is for disease. 585 00:29:05,502 --> 00:29:06,606 Apples get disease. 586 00:29:06,641 --> 00:29:09,057 They get disease on the leaves 587 00:29:09,092 --> 00:29:11,680 then that transfers onto the fruit. 588 00:29:11,715 --> 00:29:13,199 I know there's some work being done 589 00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:16,616 that some of the fungicides are not good for bees. 590 00:29:16,651 --> 00:29:19,481 As far as I know, they're okay. 591 00:29:19,516 --> 00:29:20,551 And then we have insects. 592 00:29:20,586 --> 00:29:22,726 There's a whole list of insects 593 00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:26,316 that attack the trees and the fruit. 594 00:29:26,350 --> 00:29:29,768 And if we don't control them, then we have problems. 595 00:29:29,802 --> 00:29:32,391 And there's some insecticides that you can use 596 00:29:32,425 --> 00:29:34,393 that are safe on bees. 597 00:29:34,427 --> 00:29:36,084 My policy is, when the bees come, 598 00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:38,293 we don't put any insecticide on. 599 00:29:38,328 --> 00:29:40,917 -I know when I grew up, 600 00:29:40,951 --> 00:29:42,573 the fruit business was very seasonal. 601 00:29:42,608 --> 00:29:44,334 Strawberries were in strawberry season, 602 00:29:44,368 --> 00:29:45,818 blueberries were in blueberry season, 603 00:29:45,853 --> 00:29:47,578 raspberries were in raspberry season. 604 00:29:47,613 --> 00:29:49,857 You didn't see them till the next year. 605 00:29:49,891 --> 00:29:54,723 With the worldwide production and transportation, 606 00:29:54,758 --> 00:29:56,449 you have strawberries, blueberries, 607 00:29:56,484 --> 00:29:58,106 raspberries, year-round. 608 00:29:58,141 --> 00:29:59,625 You know, you can go in the chain store 609 00:29:59,659 --> 00:30:01,144 and find these things 610 00:30:01,178 --> 00:30:03,318 and you have such a plethora 611 00:30:03,353 --> 00:30:07,219 of fruits that we never saw before. 612 00:30:07,253 --> 00:30:10,843 Fruit is much more available than it was in the past. 613 00:30:10,878 --> 00:30:13,812 So, I think, for that reason, people don't understand 614 00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:16,055 the seasonality of local produce. 615 00:30:16,090 --> 00:30:19,300 ♪♪ 616 00:30:25,306 --> 00:30:26,479 -Alright. Sounds good. 617 00:30:26,514 --> 00:30:28,827 Thanks, Kevin. Talk to you later. 618 00:30:28,861 --> 00:30:32,831 ♪♪ 619 00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:37,870 I've been doing this, you know, 620 00:30:37,905 --> 00:30:40,942 consistently for 16 plus years, 621 00:30:40,977 --> 00:30:42,806 and, you know, you jump out of the truck, 622 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:44,428 and these bees have been here 623 00:30:44,463 --> 00:30:46,810 less than 24 hours, sitting here. 624 00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:49,986 And there's quite a few beeson the ground outside the hives, 625 00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:53,058 and it's only 50 degrees or so. 626 00:30:53,092 --> 00:30:55,888 So, it's definitely an alarming situation 627 00:30:55,923 --> 00:30:58,857 where you see this many, you know, bees dead 628 00:30:58,891 --> 00:31:01,929 on the ground outside the hives when it's only 50 degrees. 629 00:31:01,963 --> 00:31:04,690 Bees haven't been flying much today. 630 00:31:04,724 --> 00:31:06,934 They are flying a little bit, but this is nothing 631 00:31:06,968 --> 00:31:09,419 compared to what it would be if it was 70 degrees out. 632 00:31:09,453 --> 00:31:10,903 We probably wouldn't be able to stand here 633 00:31:10,938 --> 00:31:12,629 without any equipment on. 634 00:31:12,663 --> 00:31:14,596 Sometimes I feel as though I get numb to it, 635 00:31:14,631 --> 00:31:18,324 and I just -- I'm used to it 'cause it's the way it is now. 636 00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:20,395 But, you know, other times, 637 00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:22,328 I want to sit here and scoop all these bees up 638 00:31:22,363 --> 00:31:24,468 and send them off to a lab to get analyzed 639 00:31:24,503 --> 00:31:26,332 and, you know, 640 00:31:26,367 --> 00:31:28,817 find out what's wrong, what's going on here. 641 00:31:28,852 --> 00:31:32,407 But, you know, in many cases, like right now, I don't. 642 00:31:32,442 --> 00:31:34,306 Beekeepers are hustling around. 643 00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:35,548 I'm moving this load out tonight, 644 00:31:35,583 --> 00:31:37,343 and I got to move another load in tomorrow 645 00:31:37,378 --> 00:31:39,000 to do the same thing again. 646 00:31:39,035 --> 00:31:42,348 Consistent pollination race, so to speak. 647 00:31:42,383 --> 00:31:44,661 If you look up close there, you can see the bees 648 00:31:44,695 --> 00:31:46,870 are pulling out the dead from inside the hive. 649 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:48,734 They'll just drop them off the front of the hive 650 00:31:48,768 --> 00:31:50,667 and leave them out in front. 651 00:31:50,701 --> 00:31:52,841 I just recently found out, basically, 652 00:31:52,876 --> 00:31:55,396 that they're using Sevin to thin the apples, 653 00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:57,225 which is a highly toxic pesticide 654 00:31:57,260 --> 00:31:59,055 for bees and all insects. 655 00:31:59,089 --> 00:32:00,884 You know, everybody's wanting to thin right now, 656 00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:02,713 so as soon as the bees get out, 657 00:32:02,748 --> 00:32:06,062 they start up the sprayers and and try to thin. 658 00:32:06,096 --> 00:32:07,960 -Things like apples, where they purposely 659 00:32:07,995 --> 00:32:09,272 only want to set the king bloom, 660 00:32:09,306 --> 00:32:11,964 because they want to get larger fruit size, 661 00:32:11,999 --> 00:32:15,450 what they've found isthat if they set too much bloom, 662 00:32:15,485 --> 00:32:18,108 they actually have to send people out to thin them. 663 00:32:18,143 --> 00:32:20,628 And they found that some of the insecticides, 664 00:32:20,662 --> 00:32:22,768 particularly Sevin or Carbaryl, 665 00:32:22,802 --> 00:32:25,736 can be used -- sprayed on the blossom 666 00:32:25,771 --> 00:32:28,636 to actually cause it to abort bloom. 667 00:32:28,670 --> 00:32:32,812 And so one of the issues we havearound those types of crops 668 00:32:32,847 --> 00:32:35,746 is actually removing the bees quick enough 669 00:32:35,781 --> 00:32:38,197 that we don't come in contact 670 00:32:38,232 --> 00:32:40,751 with the thin sprays 671 00:32:40,786 --> 00:32:42,684 later in the bloom. 672 00:32:42,719 --> 00:32:44,548 -Even though this is a really big orchard, 673 00:32:44,583 --> 00:32:47,413 just the other side of that hillright there is somebody else, 674 00:32:47,448 --> 00:32:49,933 and it looks like, judging by the tire tracks, 675 00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:51,279 someone was in there spraying last night. 676 00:32:51,314 --> 00:32:53,730 Every single row had been gone up and down 677 00:32:53,764 --> 00:32:55,352 in the last 24 hours. 678 00:32:55,387 --> 00:32:56,664 You can see it in the grass. 679 00:32:56,698 --> 00:32:58,769 I'm sure there's a good reason for it. 680 00:32:58,804 --> 00:33:01,910 It's an effective thinner. It's what they're using. 681 00:33:01,945 --> 00:33:04,292 But is everybody communicating enough 682 00:33:04,327 --> 00:33:07,019 with their neighbors about the bees? 683 00:33:07,054 --> 00:33:08,917 Or is it just, "Well, my bees are out, 684 00:33:08,952 --> 00:33:10,574 so I'm going to thin"? 685 00:33:10,609 --> 00:33:13,439 You know there's still partial bloom on some of his trees, 686 00:33:13,474 --> 00:33:14,820 and my bees work those trees. 687 00:33:14,854 --> 00:33:17,029 So, you know, it's something that -- 688 00:33:17,064 --> 00:33:19,445 It's definitely a danger in pollination, 689 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,965 and we don't quite have answers 690 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,587 as to what to do about it. 691 00:33:23,622 --> 00:33:25,796 One guy doesn't know the other guy's bees are there, 692 00:33:25,831 --> 00:33:27,522 and next thing you know, they get dead bees 693 00:33:27,557 --> 00:33:29,628 and an upset beekeeper. 694 00:33:29,662 --> 00:33:31,802 So... [ Sighs ] 695 00:33:31,837 --> 00:33:34,322 [ Chuckles ] 696 00:33:34,357 --> 00:33:36,221 Never ends. 697 00:33:36,255 --> 00:33:40,880 ♪♪ 698 00:33:40,915 --> 00:33:42,951 -Populations of honey bees are dying at levels 699 00:33:42,986 --> 00:33:46,334 that are unprecedented and very concerning. 700 00:33:46,369 --> 00:33:51,236 So, we have been seeing between 33% and close to half 701 00:33:51,270 --> 00:33:54,377 of the colonies in the U.S. dying every single year, 702 00:33:54,411 --> 00:33:56,448 which is disturbing. 703 00:33:56,482 --> 00:33:59,140 But the numbers of colonies in the U.S. 704 00:33:59,175 --> 00:34:01,073 have been able to hold steady, 705 00:34:01,108 --> 00:34:03,593 because we then split the colonies that survive, 706 00:34:03,627 --> 00:34:05,077 and we recoup those losses. 707 00:34:05,112 --> 00:34:06,768 We're doing it because we have to, 708 00:34:06,803 --> 00:34:08,115 but our hope is that, eventually, 709 00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:10,082 we can stop splitting colonies, 710 00:34:10,117 --> 00:34:12,740 which is not a sustainable way of keeping them, 711 00:34:12,774 --> 00:34:14,259 and get back to a time 712 00:34:14,293 --> 00:34:18,953 where we had acceptable levels of loss, at 10% or lower. 713 00:34:18,987 --> 00:34:20,472 -One of the things that they're not really looking at 714 00:34:20,506 --> 00:34:23,854 and not telling you is that beekeepers have changed 715 00:34:23,889 --> 00:34:25,201 a lot of their management. 716 00:34:25,235 --> 00:34:27,720 Everybody is replacing queens, you know, 717 00:34:27,755 --> 00:34:29,791 at an unheard of rate. 718 00:34:29,826 --> 00:34:31,828 -So, we're up at the bee yard here. 719 00:34:31,862 --> 00:34:35,107 We're going to put in some queen cells 720 00:34:35,142 --> 00:34:37,661 to hives that we split earlier. 721 00:34:37,696 --> 00:34:39,836 And that's what is in this box here, 722 00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:44,530 it's some attendant worker bees and a frame -- 723 00:34:44,565 --> 00:34:46,739 a couple frames of honey for feed, 724 00:34:46,774 --> 00:34:49,087 and then we purchase queen cells 725 00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:52,504 from a beekeeping operation that raises those. 726 00:34:52,538 --> 00:34:54,920 So, what I'll be doing is, I'll be taking these, 727 00:34:54,954 --> 00:34:57,992 and I'll be installing one queen cell 728 00:34:58,026 --> 00:35:00,167 per hive that we've split, 729 00:35:00,201 --> 00:35:01,927 and you can see the queen cell. 730 00:35:01,961 --> 00:35:04,205 You can see the bees working on it. 731 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,863 We'll put the queen cell in each of the hives. 732 00:35:06,897 --> 00:35:11,005 ♪♪ 733 00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:13,594 -I go back to the dayswhen you put a queen in the box, 734 00:35:13,628 --> 00:35:15,423 and she was there for years. 735 00:35:15,458 --> 00:35:18,116 I mean, literally, three, four years, 736 00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:19,565 and you didn't re-queen a lot of beehives 737 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,740 because they normally re-queened themselves. 738 00:35:21,774 --> 00:35:23,190 Now it's a different story. 739 00:35:23,224 --> 00:35:25,882 You re-queen them, or you got a dead beehive. 740 00:35:25,916 --> 00:35:27,366 A lot of guys are out there, 741 00:35:27,401 --> 00:35:29,334 carrying a hundred queens with them every day. 742 00:35:29,368 --> 00:35:31,163 You know, maybe they don't use a hundred a day, 743 00:35:31,198 --> 00:35:33,303 but the next two days, they're gonna use that hundred up, 744 00:35:33,338 --> 00:35:34,753 and they got another hundred coming, 745 00:35:34,787 --> 00:35:36,548 you know, sizeable outfits. 746 00:35:36,582 --> 00:35:40,068 -There are about 320 hives that we're going to assess 747 00:35:40,103 --> 00:35:42,899 which half the queen is in and confine her 748 00:35:42,933 --> 00:35:45,039 so we know where she is, and then this evening, 749 00:35:45,073 --> 00:35:48,215 we'll move off those queen-less halves 750 00:35:48,249 --> 00:35:50,078 so that we can establish new hives, 751 00:35:50,113 --> 00:35:53,599 put queen cells in them in the next few days. 752 00:35:53,634 --> 00:35:56,913 [ Bees buzzing ] 753 00:35:56,947 --> 00:35:58,535 -They're keeping the losses at bay, 754 00:35:58,570 --> 00:36:00,192 but I can remember the days 755 00:36:00,227 --> 00:36:03,644 when I ran 1,500 hives of bees by myself. 756 00:36:03,678 --> 00:36:04,990 But them days are over. 757 00:36:05,024 --> 00:36:07,095 I mean, there's just so much management. 758 00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:09,028 We ran bees on a let-alone system. 759 00:36:09,063 --> 00:36:10,547 I mean the more you left them alone, 760 00:36:10,582 --> 00:36:11,962 the more honey they made. 761 00:36:11,997 --> 00:36:13,481 Now if you leave them alone, they're dead. 762 00:36:13,516 --> 00:36:16,898 I mean, you got to -- You just basically got to be 763 00:36:16,933 --> 00:36:18,797 in them things about every two weeks. 764 00:36:18,831 --> 00:36:20,419 You know, if queens are starting to fail, 765 00:36:20,454 --> 00:36:23,146 then we pop a new queen in there, 766 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:25,390 or you got an empty box. 767 00:36:25,424 --> 00:36:27,357 [ Bees buzzing ] 768 00:36:27,392 --> 00:36:29,566 -We start a new hive 769 00:36:29,601 --> 00:36:33,052 by combining the frames of brood 770 00:36:33,087 --> 00:36:35,158 from several different colonies. 771 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:37,229 Bring your camera in quick here. 772 00:36:37,264 --> 00:36:41,233 There's a Varroa mite on that drone larva. 773 00:36:41,268 --> 00:36:45,375 Red, orange fleck there on the larva here is 774 00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:46,928 a Varroa mite. 775 00:36:46,963 --> 00:36:50,829 They were accidentally imported. 776 00:36:52,451 --> 00:36:56,317 -Varroa destructor is public enemy number one, by far. 777 00:36:56,352 --> 00:36:58,457 It was a parasite in Southeast Asia, 778 00:36:58,492 --> 00:37:00,528 and around the 1960s, 779 00:37:00,563 --> 00:37:02,806 it started making the spread around the world. 780 00:37:02,841 --> 00:37:06,983 Now it's present pretty much everywhere honey bees are kept. 781 00:37:07,017 --> 00:37:10,158 -It's a small, little mite 782 00:37:10,193 --> 00:37:13,541 that if you compared it to the size of a human being, 783 00:37:13,576 --> 00:37:15,543 a 150-pound human being, 784 00:37:15,578 --> 00:37:18,270 it would be like having a tick the size of your fist. 785 00:37:18,305 --> 00:37:21,308 So, it's a huge parasite relative to the bee's body. 786 00:37:21,342 --> 00:37:23,068 And it, literally, just pokes 787 00:37:23,102 --> 00:37:24,725 right through the body wall of the bee 788 00:37:24,759 --> 00:37:26,520 and feeds on it, both the adult bee 789 00:37:26,554 --> 00:37:30,731 and the developing bee, in the larval and pupal stage. 790 00:37:30,765 --> 00:37:32,698 -Mites carry viruses. 791 00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:34,286 They transmit viruses, 792 00:37:34,321 --> 00:37:36,564 and they also, we know, suppress the immune system. 793 00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:39,084 So, it's like a double whammy for the bees. 794 00:37:39,118 --> 00:37:41,293 -You can kind of imagine it as a triangle. 795 00:37:41,328 --> 00:37:44,054 There are parasites at the top of this triangle, 796 00:37:44,089 --> 00:37:45,642 pesticides, and poor nutrition. 797 00:37:45,677 --> 00:37:47,195 There's a lot going on. 798 00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:49,474 But it seems like they're all related to each other. 799 00:37:49,508 --> 00:37:52,304 -Most bee populations can deal with one of these issues, 800 00:37:52,339 --> 00:37:55,238 but they can't deal with multiple ones at the same time. 801 00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:58,655 Example of this is the interaction of Varroa mites 802 00:37:58,690 --> 00:38:01,589 and pesticides and viruses. 803 00:38:01,624 --> 00:38:05,248 -The mites are parasites that weaken the bees. 804 00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:06,629 They weaken the bees 805 00:38:06,663 --> 00:38:08,941 and make them more susceptible to pesticides. 806 00:38:08,976 --> 00:38:10,978 The pesticides further weaken the bees. 807 00:38:11,012 --> 00:38:12,359 They reduce the population, 808 00:38:12,393 --> 00:38:14,499 the number of bees that are in the colony, 809 00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:16,949 and that gives you a lower force of bees 810 00:38:16,984 --> 00:38:18,882 to actually go out and retrieve food. 811 00:38:18,917 --> 00:38:21,816 -So, you have this sort of feedback loop where, you know, 812 00:38:21,851 --> 00:38:25,061 if you have high pesticides, virus titers can go higher, 813 00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:26,925 Varroa populations can go higher, 814 00:38:26,959 --> 00:38:28,340 which can transmit more virus, 815 00:38:28,375 --> 00:38:30,549 and then you can get into the cycle 816 00:38:30,584 --> 00:38:34,553 that your bees are unable to cope with. 817 00:38:34,588 --> 00:38:36,969 -The big problem with the mite is... 818 00:38:37,004 --> 00:38:39,662 how do you get rid of a bug on a bug? 819 00:38:39,696 --> 00:38:41,560 We think we've put a chemical in there to treat the mite, 820 00:38:41,595 --> 00:38:44,114 and we're going to kill the mites. 821 00:38:44,149 --> 00:38:46,013 Well, a lot of times -- sometimes, it works, 822 00:38:46,047 --> 00:38:47,463 and sometimes it don't, and that's where 823 00:38:47,497 --> 00:38:49,154 you get yourself into deep trouble, 824 00:38:49,188 --> 00:38:50,914 because you either treat for the mites, 825 00:38:50,949 --> 00:38:52,122 or the mites put you out of business. 826 00:38:52,157 --> 00:38:53,331 It's just as simple as that. 827 00:38:53,365 --> 00:38:55,850 -You know, it's one straw too many. 828 00:38:55,885 --> 00:38:57,162 You got mites. You got virus. 829 00:38:57,196 --> 00:38:58,853 You got, you know, poor nutrition, 830 00:38:58,888 --> 00:39:00,096 and then you have 831 00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:01,925 pesticide exposure on top of that. 832 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:07,137 It's more than we should expect of any organism to survive. 833 00:39:07,172 --> 00:39:08,967 -What is happening with bees right now 834 00:39:09,001 --> 00:39:11,038 is not colony collapse disorder 835 00:39:11,072 --> 00:39:13,627 that we saw over a three to five year period. 836 00:39:13,661 --> 00:39:16,284 Rapid loss of bees from a colony, 837 00:39:16,319 --> 00:39:17,596 and the brood's left behind 838 00:39:17,631 --> 00:39:19,460 and usually the queen is left behind. 839 00:39:19,495 --> 00:39:20,875 That's CCD. 840 00:39:20,910 --> 00:39:25,501 -You know so many people are so focused on CCD, CCD, CCD. 841 00:39:25,535 --> 00:39:28,089 CCD is a small, little manifestation 842 00:39:28,124 --> 00:39:30,195 of this whole pollinator decline. 843 00:39:30,229 --> 00:39:31,541 It much more rare 844 00:39:31,576 --> 00:39:33,681 than it was during those initial few years -- 845 00:39:33,716 --> 00:39:38,030 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008. 846 00:39:38,065 --> 00:39:41,413 It's really not what's important. 847 00:39:41,448 --> 00:39:46,176 -Everyone uses this CCD to mean whenever a colony dies. 848 00:39:46,211 --> 00:39:50,146 We're seeing colonies die for a lot of reasons now. 849 00:39:58,154 --> 00:40:02,469 ♪♪ 850 00:40:07,474 --> 00:40:09,372 -Wild blueberries are growin'. 851 00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:12,202 Only grow here in Maine and Nova Scotia 852 00:40:12,237 --> 00:40:16,206 Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, and Quebec. 853 00:40:16,241 --> 00:40:18,208 Annual event. 854 00:40:18,243 --> 00:40:19,658 Been doing this for 30-something years 855 00:40:19,693 --> 00:40:21,004 for this company. 856 00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:25,284 So the bees are being brought inin the middle of May. 857 00:40:25,319 --> 00:40:29,703 They'll be here until early, mid-June -- 858 00:40:29,737 --> 00:40:33,258 somewhere around the 10th, 12th, 14th of June. 859 00:40:33,292 --> 00:40:35,191 The blueberries will be done blooming, 860 00:40:35,225 --> 00:40:36,434 and they'll get them out of here 861 00:40:36,468 --> 00:40:38,470 and take them on over to New York 862 00:40:38,505 --> 00:40:40,368 or wherever they've got to go to produce honey 863 00:40:40,403 --> 00:40:42,370 for the rest of the summer. 864 00:40:47,410 --> 00:40:52,519 This load came out of Florida. There's 396 hives on here. 865 00:40:52,553 --> 00:40:55,832 We're gonna put these out in three or four yards 866 00:40:55,867 --> 00:40:58,421 this morning. 867 00:40:58,456 --> 00:40:59,940 The black flies are bad. 868 00:40:59,974 --> 00:41:02,390 We're effected by commodity pricing everywhere -- 869 00:41:02,425 --> 00:41:05,221 almonds, apples, you know, blueberries, everything. 870 00:41:05,255 --> 00:41:07,706 You know, if they ain't making any money, 871 00:41:07,741 --> 00:41:09,846 they can't afford to pay us or don't want to. 872 00:41:09,881 --> 00:41:11,986 It's just the way life is. 873 00:41:12,021 --> 00:41:13,678 You got a wrecking bar? 874 00:41:13,712 --> 00:41:15,438 -It's on the nose of the trailer. 875 00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:16,784 -Oh, okay. I'm trying to find -- 876 00:41:16,819 --> 00:41:20,098 Somebody must of took one out of this truck. 877 00:41:20,132 --> 00:41:21,548 -But blueberries prices are down, 878 00:41:21,582 --> 00:41:23,826 and it's costing more to producethe blueberries 879 00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:25,275 than they're worth. 880 00:41:25,310 --> 00:41:27,174 So, you know... 881 00:41:27,208 --> 00:41:28,796 it's economics. 882 00:41:36,528 --> 00:41:39,358 Well, I guess we won't get it off quick. 883 00:41:40,877 --> 00:41:43,535 -Yeah, last night, two tractor trailers came in, 884 00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:46,089 both of them were Dave Hackenberg's bees. 885 00:41:46,124 --> 00:41:49,196 We put about a third of them out. 886 00:41:49,230 --> 00:41:51,716 This morning, we put another third out. 887 00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:53,234 Tonight we'll finish that load -- 888 00:41:53,269 --> 00:41:55,236 those two loads up. 889 00:41:57,894 --> 00:42:01,277 This road didn't get any better since last year, either. 890 00:42:30,755 --> 00:42:33,240 [ Engine revs ] 891 00:42:37,209 --> 00:42:38,901 I'll let you put the other one here. 892 00:42:38,935 --> 00:42:40,109 [ Chuckles ] 893 00:42:40,143 --> 00:42:42,939 -[ Indistinct talking] 894 00:42:44,734 --> 00:42:47,737 -Yeah, the other one will go in a big hole. 895 00:42:47,772 --> 00:42:49,152 Okay. 896 00:42:49,187 --> 00:42:50,429 -There's no place to turn around. 897 00:42:50,464 --> 00:42:52,017 It's nothing but a rock pile. 898 00:42:52,052 --> 00:42:54,364 You got to fix the fence -- His fence is there. 899 00:42:54,399 --> 00:42:56,159 I got to put his fence up. 900 00:42:56,194 --> 00:42:57,505 I got put the bees in the fence, 901 00:42:57,540 --> 00:43:00,267 and I've got to get the fence closed up. 902 00:43:00,301 --> 00:43:01,993 [ Cellphone rings ] 903 00:43:02,027 --> 00:43:04,409 Ah, I don't want to talk to you. 904 00:43:04,443 --> 00:43:05,997 -He sits by the windows, 905 00:43:06,031 --> 00:43:08,378 'cause it's the only place in here he gets cell service. 906 00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:10,346 -I start out to put bees in the first yard, 907 00:43:10,380 --> 00:43:13,763 and there's spraying rigs in the first yard. 908 00:43:13,798 --> 00:43:15,903 And where I wanted to unload the truck, 909 00:43:15,938 --> 00:43:17,077 there was a hole. 910 00:43:17,111 --> 00:43:18,561 They were filling spray tanks 911 00:43:18,596 --> 00:43:19,769 and had their tractor trailer 912 00:43:19,804 --> 00:43:22,461 and all their spray rigs sitting in there. 913 00:43:24,636 --> 00:43:25,982 Them pancakes sure ain't mine, 914 00:43:26,017 --> 00:43:27,777 'cause I know better than to eat pancakes here. 915 00:43:27,812 --> 00:43:31,643 -[ Laughs ] You'll be full for the rest of the day. 916 00:43:31,678 --> 00:43:34,025 -I can't handle that much pancake. 917 00:43:34,059 --> 00:43:36,786 -Did you have guys have less bees this year brought up? 918 00:43:36,821 --> 00:43:38,512 That's, like, the rumor that's been going on, 919 00:43:38,546 --> 00:43:40,548 so I was wondering. -Yeah, it's not a rumor. 920 00:43:40,583 --> 00:43:42,620 -So, cause I know -- -They cleared way back. 921 00:43:42,654 --> 00:43:44,656 -So, how much did they cut you guys for? 922 00:43:44,691 --> 00:43:47,210 -They didn't cut us, but, I mean, they cut -- 923 00:43:47,245 --> 00:43:48,833 They got rid of just -- 924 00:43:48,867 --> 00:43:51,594 Let a bunch of people go. -'Cause I know a lot of people 925 00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:53,492 have been worried about, like,blueberry prices and everything. 926 00:43:53,527 --> 00:43:55,667 -Oh, yes. -So... 927 00:43:55,702 --> 00:44:01,293 ♪♪ 928 00:44:01,328 --> 00:44:07,092 ♪♪ 929 00:44:07,127 --> 00:44:10,233 -OSHA don't want to see that! 930 00:44:10,268 --> 00:44:11,787 Go right out the road here, 931 00:44:11,821 --> 00:44:15,204 until you turn left, and then make that first right. 932 00:44:15,238 --> 00:44:21,037 ♪♪ 933 00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:36,328 [ Rooster crows ] 934 00:44:36,363 --> 00:44:38,572 -We can learn a good deal from bees 935 00:44:38,606 --> 00:44:41,713 about the health of the landscapes that we inhabit. 936 00:44:41,748 --> 00:44:44,716 And sort of secondarily, we can learn a good deal 937 00:44:44,751 --> 00:44:47,788 about the folly of setting up our agriculture 938 00:44:47,823 --> 00:44:50,480 in quite the way that we have. 939 00:44:50,515 --> 00:44:52,172 It looked so efficient 940 00:44:52,206 --> 00:44:56,659 and concentrate everything in the ways that we've done it, 941 00:44:56,694 --> 00:44:59,938 but that turns out to be a false efficiency. 942 00:44:59,973 --> 00:45:01,388 It is the cheapest way 943 00:45:01,422 --> 00:45:05,012 to produce pork or corn or whatever else, 944 00:45:05,047 --> 00:45:07,774 but that cheapness comes at a high price, 945 00:45:07,808 --> 00:45:12,502 and that price is the loss of the agricultural diversity, 946 00:45:12,537 --> 00:45:15,678 redundancy, resiliency, 947 00:45:15,713 --> 00:45:19,509 that is really beyond price. 948 00:45:19,544 --> 00:45:21,546 You know it's the thing that we've built up 949 00:45:21,580 --> 00:45:23,790 over 10,000 years of agriculture, 950 00:45:23,824 --> 00:45:25,619 and now in a kind of hundred years 951 00:45:25,653 --> 00:45:27,345 of industrialization, 952 00:45:27,379 --> 00:45:29,312 we've managed to get rid of most of it. 953 00:45:29,347 --> 00:45:33,075 -The Industrial Revolution in the early 1900s was founded 954 00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:35,560 to take people off the land, 955 00:45:35,594 --> 00:45:37,873 bring them into cities and into places 956 00:45:37,907 --> 00:45:39,806 where there were other kinds of jobs 957 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,257 that could be more profitable for them. 958 00:45:43,292 --> 00:45:44,949 We had more than enough people 959 00:45:44,983 --> 00:45:47,503 to grow the food that was necessary. 960 00:45:47,537 --> 00:45:48,953 And so the emphasis in agriculture 961 00:45:48,987 --> 00:45:52,542 was totally focused on increasing 962 00:45:52,577 --> 00:45:55,200 the productivity of crop production 963 00:45:55,235 --> 00:45:59,515 and animal production of the individual farm level. 964 00:45:59,549 --> 00:46:02,794 And we've made great strides in doing that. 965 00:46:02,829 --> 00:46:05,693 And as a consequence, fewer and fewer individuals 966 00:46:05,728 --> 00:46:08,800 are engaged in farming because fewer individuals 967 00:46:08,835 --> 00:46:11,182 can farm larger and larger operations, 968 00:46:11,216 --> 00:46:14,702 whether that's a milking herd of a 100 cows, 969 00:46:14,737 --> 00:46:18,258 or farming 300 or 400 acres of crops. 970 00:46:18,292 --> 00:46:19,535 We've evolved a system 971 00:46:19,569 --> 00:46:22,952 that's efficient from use of land 972 00:46:22,987 --> 00:46:27,577 in terms of amount of food that can be produced on it, 973 00:46:27,612 --> 00:46:29,407 but it's not a sustainable system. 974 00:46:29,441 --> 00:46:30,995 It's not healthy for the soil. 975 00:46:31,029 --> 00:46:34,688 It's not healthy for the productthat's produced 976 00:46:34,722 --> 00:46:37,760 in terms of its nutrition or other properties, 977 00:46:37,795 --> 00:46:42,109 and it's not healthy for the environment as a whole. 978 00:46:42,144 --> 00:46:47,045 -Well, we went down a road with agriculture, didn't we? 979 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,633 And that road said 980 00:46:48,667 --> 00:46:50,738 that the only way to be a successful farmer 981 00:46:50,773 --> 00:46:53,327 was to have clean fields 982 00:46:53,362 --> 00:46:56,296 and control -- 983 00:46:56,330 --> 00:46:59,575 in control of your land, right? 984 00:46:59,609 --> 00:47:00,852 If you had weeds 985 00:47:00,887 --> 00:47:03,751 or if you had something out of place, 986 00:47:03,786 --> 00:47:05,995 you were a bad farmer, 987 00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:08,549 and the easiest way to maintain that -- 988 00:47:08,584 --> 00:47:11,483 As that perception started to increase, 989 00:47:11,518 --> 00:47:13,554 the food production system became simpler 990 00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:15,280 and simpler and simpler. 991 00:47:15,315 --> 00:47:17,731 And the only way to maintain a simplified system 992 00:47:17,765 --> 00:47:19,767 is with more and more jugs, you know? 993 00:47:19,802 --> 00:47:22,253 Maybe it's fertilizers, maybe it's GM plants, 994 00:47:22,287 --> 00:47:23,461 maybe it's herbicides, 995 00:47:23,495 --> 00:47:27,879 maybe it's insecticides, fungicides. 996 00:47:27,914 --> 00:47:30,330 Simplify it. Control it, right? 997 00:47:30,364 --> 00:47:33,264 And that seems to have worked for a long time, 998 00:47:33,298 --> 00:47:36,129 but the cracks are really showing through 999 00:47:36,163 --> 00:47:37,855 in the ice right now. 1000 00:47:37,889 --> 00:47:39,822 Everything within the current infrastructure 1001 00:47:39,857 --> 00:47:43,032 is hell-bent on making the system work, 1002 00:47:43,067 --> 00:47:44,344 rather than questioning, 1003 00:47:44,378 --> 00:47:48,072 should we have ever gone down this road to begin with? 1004 00:47:52,179 --> 00:47:53,732 -In the year 2000, 1005 00:47:53,767 --> 00:47:55,665 the only corn you saw in eastern North Dakota 1006 00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:56,943 was silage corn, 1007 00:47:56,977 --> 00:47:59,117 and there were a few soybean fields, 1008 00:47:59,152 --> 00:48:00,739 but not very many. 1009 00:48:00,774 --> 00:48:05,468 And in 2006, George Bush gave a talk, 1010 00:48:05,503 --> 00:48:11,371 and he mentioned something called biofuels. [ Chuckles ] 1011 00:48:11,405 --> 00:48:13,062 And as soon as that happened, 1012 00:48:13,097 --> 00:48:15,927 the renewable fuel standard was created. 1013 00:48:15,962 --> 00:48:21,415 We saw massive changes here in North Dakota. 1014 00:48:21,450 --> 00:48:25,764 Now the two predominant crops are corn and soybeans 1015 00:48:25,799 --> 00:48:28,181 and we have lost many, many opportunities 1016 00:48:28,215 --> 00:48:30,838 for producing honey due to those changes. 1017 00:48:30,873 --> 00:48:34,083 A lot of the grassland,a lot of the conservation acres, 1018 00:48:34,118 --> 00:48:36,120 a lot of the more traditional crops 1019 00:48:36,154 --> 00:48:40,262 have all been replacedwith acres of corn and soybeans. 1020 00:48:40,296 --> 00:48:43,955 -When we were looking at mappingaround apiaries in North Dakota, 1021 00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:45,888 we were looking at the amount of grasslands 1022 00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:47,338 and natural areas and stuff. 1023 00:48:47,372 --> 00:48:49,202 And as those grasslands and all disappeared 1024 00:48:49,236 --> 00:48:51,100 and turned into crops, like corn and soybeans, 1025 00:48:51,135 --> 00:48:53,516 there's very little fencerows or hedgerows at all. 1026 00:48:53,551 --> 00:48:56,795 So you've got corn and soybeans that bloom, you know, 1027 00:48:56,830 --> 00:48:58,176 one time during the year. 1028 00:48:58,211 --> 00:48:59,971 Very little other forage out there. 1029 00:49:00,006 --> 00:49:02,318 And plus, you've got the pesticide exposure 1030 00:49:02,353 --> 00:49:03,699 that comes with agriculture. 1031 00:49:03,733 --> 00:49:05,080 ♪♪ 1032 00:49:05,114 --> 00:49:07,841 -A lot of them grasslands have not had anything 1033 00:49:07,875 --> 00:49:09,774 planted on it for hundreds of years 1034 00:49:09,808 --> 00:49:11,362 and, all of a sudden, we have corn in areas 1035 00:49:11,396 --> 00:49:14,606 that shouldn't have corn because of ethanol. 1036 00:49:14,641 --> 00:49:16,160 And if they stop planting corn today, 1037 00:49:16,194 --> 00:49:18,541 it's going to take 20 to 30 years for that ground 1038 00:49:18,576 --> 00:49:20,164 to get back in the shape it was 1039 00:49:20,198 --> 00:49:23,995 to sustain life for all these wild insects, 1040 00:49:24,030 --> 00:49:26,860 birds, and fowl, and everything else. 1041 00:49:26,894 --> 00:49:30,243 So we're not doing ourselves any good. 1042 00:49:30,277 --> 00:49:32,590 -Agriculture, you know, 1043 00:49:32,624 --> 00:49:35,006 is an interruption of a natural system. 1044 00:49:35,041 --> 00:49:38,976 But it can be done thoughtfully as an interruption 1045 00:49:39,010 --> 00:49:42,048 of a natural system with great benefits. 1046 00:49:42,082 --> 00:49:44,291 From what I've studied and what I've learned 1047 00:49:44,326 --> 00:49:46,121 from visits to these farms 1048 00:49:46,155 --> 00:49:48,261 that are forced into monoculture -- 1049 00:49:48,295 --> 00:49:50,297 I just want to be careful that we talk about farmers 1050 00:49:50,332 --> 00:49:54,715 that are driven to want to farm in monocultures. 1051 00:49:54,750 --> 00:49:57,511 There aren't a lot that I've met. 1052 00:49:57,546 --> 00:49:59,824 We have a system that's teetering. 1053 00:49:59,858 --> 00:50:01,205 It's hard to recognize that 1054 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,517 because the supermarket shelves are filled. 1055 00:50:03,552 --> 00:50:06,934 The instability is there because of our food choices. 1056 00:50:06,969 --> 00:50:08,971 Not because of some evil empire 1057 00:50:09,006 --> 00:50:13,803 trying to destabilize our breadbasket to the world. 1058 00:50:13,838 --> 00:50:16,496 If anything, it's because we have demanded 1059 00:50:16,530 --> 00:50:22,019 an alarmingly small diversity of grains mostly that feed us, 1060 00:50:22,053 --> 00:50:24,676 and that's pushed the food system that we have 1061 00:50:24,711 --> 00:50:25,815 into the place it's in. 1062 00:50:25,850 --> 00:50:28,956 So, it's a reflection of us. 1063 00:50:28,991 --> 00:50:33,409 -Crop rotation is just really moving plants around 1064 00:50:33,444 --> 00:50:34,893 to different areas. 1065 00:50:34,928 --> 00:50:36,412 Rotation in general 1066 00:50:36,447 --> 00:50:39,967 is a really important concept in nature. 1067 00:50:40,002 --> 00:50:43,833 It reduces the potential of accumulated pathogens. 1068 00:50:43,868 --> 00:50:45,870 It exercises the soil 1069 00:50:45,904 --> 00:50:48,252 to really draw different things out of it, 1070 00:50:48,286 --> 00:50:52,428 because every plant species has a different need 1071 00:50:52,463 --> 00:50:54,085 that it's taking from the soil. 1072 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:59,366 Kind of moving through sort of a procession of plants. 1073 00:50:59,401 --> 00:51:02,990 You're balancing the soil and working with that system. 1074 00:51:03,025 --> 00:51:05,510 That's not the case with corn and soy. 1075 00:51:05,545 --> 00:51:06,891 It's our choice 1076 00:51:06,925 --> 00:51:10,446 to have transposed this grass crop, 1077 00:51:10,481 --> 00:51:14,140 as corn or soybean crop, 1078 00:51:14,174 --> 00:51:16,728 on top of what really wants 1079 00:51:16,763 --> 00:51:18,523 to be a perennial grassland. 1080 00:51:18,558 --> 00:51:21,112 If we could really look close at the Plains, 1081 00:51:21,147 --> 00:51:24,564 we would see huge shifts in species. 1082 00:51:24,598 --> 00:51:28,119 And not just the animalsmoving across in the way they do 1083 00:51:28,154 --> 00:51:31,122 but the grasses changing, one species to another, 1084 00:51:31,157 --> 00:51:32,675 over long periods of time. 1085 00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:37,128 What made the Great Plains is that movement and change. 1086 00:51:37,163 --> 00:51:39,648 We have some of the most beautiful soil on this planet 1087 00:51:39,682 --> 00:51:41,132 in the Midwest of our country 1088 00:51:41,167 --> 00:51:43,686 and we're just chipping it away with corn and soy. 1089 00:51:43,721 --> 00:51:46,275 We're not generating something new. 1090 00:51:46,310 --> 00:51:50,210 There's more that could be addedwith the corn and soy. 1091 00:51:50,245 --> 00:51:52,454 -We've lived in the Garden of Eden. 1092 00:51:52,488 --> 00:51:54,973 We came to a place that had virgin soils 1093 00:51:55,008 --> 00:51:57,355 and has temperate climate that have resulted 1094 00:51:57,390 --> 00:52:00,117 in an over-abundance of food from the beginning. 1095 00:52:00,151 --> 00:52:03,775 And when the soils were depletedon the East Coast, 1096 00:52:03,810 --> 00:52:05,329 we plowed up the Midwest 1097 00:52:05,363 --> 00:52:07,710 and became very rich off of that. 1098 00:52:07,745 --> 00:52:11,818 And when those soils were depleted and distraught, 1099 00:52:11,852 --> 00:52:12,957 we moved west. 1100 00:52:12,991 --> 00:52:14,821 Manifest Destiny is about chasing 1101 00:52:14,855 --> 00:52:16,650 virgin soil and yields, 1102 00:52:16,685 --> 00:52:19,584 and we have come to the end of the line, of course, 1103 00:52:19,619 --> 00:52:21,103 only just recently. 1104 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:23,588 And so the question now is a real inflection point 1105 00:52:23,623 --> 00:52:25,072 of a fork in the road -- 1106 00:52:25,107 --> 00:52:26,453 Do you put the pedal to the metal 1107 00:52:26,488 --> 00:52:27,730 and try and increase the yields? 1108 00:52:27,765 --> 00:52:29,180 You think about how we produce food 1109 00:52:29,215 --> 00:52:30,906 in a completely different way, and if we do, 1110 00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:32,252 then we have to change the whole food culture. 1111 00:52:32,287 --> 00:52:34,358 We really have to create a system, 1112 00:52:34,392 --> 00:52:36,394 a pattern of eating that supports 1113 00:52:36,429 --> 00:52:38,396 the kind of diversity that the landscape 1114 00:52:38,431 --> 00:52:40,364 needs to be healthy. 1115 00:52:40,398 --> 00:52:41,434 We don't have that. 1116 00:52:41,468 --> 00:52:43,401 -Think about a place like the Dakotas, 1117 00:52:43,436 --> 00:52:47,336 which used to be a diverse agricultural landscape 1118 00:52:47,371 --> 00:52:52,721 and actually perfect for bees, in that part of their cycle, 1119 00:52:52,755 --> 00:52:54,378 you know, far north. 1120 00:52:54,412 --> 00:52:59,037 We've turned it into a agricultural monoculture. 1121 00:52:59,072 --> 00:53:02,109 And we've interspersed that monoculture 1122 00:53:02,144 --> 00:53:03,973 with thousands of oil wells, 1123 00:53:04,008 --> 00:53:06,700 as we have fracked apart the Bakken shale. 1124 00:53:06,735 --> 00:53:09,047 It's a pretty remarkable 1125 00:53:09,082 --> 00:53:11,222 industrial landscape now. 1126 00:53:11,257 --> 00:53:12,982 And it's not very friendly to people, 1127 00:53:13,017 --> 00:53:14,536 at least the people who'd been there 1128 00:53:14,570 --> 00:53:16,572 for many thousands of years, 1129 00:53:16,607 --> 00:53:19,126 who have tried their best to stand up against things 1130 00:53:19,161 --> 00:53:21,267 like the Dakota Access Pipeline. 1131 00:53:21,301 --> 00:53:24,028 And it's not very friendly to wild nature, 1132 00:53:24,062 --> 00:53:27,238 including the pollinators. 1133 00:53:27,273 --> 00:53:30,483 We have this idea of the American west 1134 00:53:30,517 --> 00:53:33,658 as this great untamed natural place, 1135 00:53:33,693 --> 00:53:38,145 but, in fact, outside of the national parks, 1136 00:53:38,180 --> 00:53:40,009 it's been about as industrialized 1137 00:53:40,044 --> 00:53:42,253 as it's possible to get. 1138 00:53:42,288 --> 00:53:46,119 ♪♪ 1139 00:53:46,153 --> 00:53:48,708 -The bees are dying right now. 1140 00:53:48,742 --> 00:53:50,744 They're not the only things that are dying. 1141 00:53:50,779 --> 00:53:54,886 I mean, we're also losing birds,bats, butterflies. 1142 00:53:54,921 --> 00:53:57,026 Entire habitats we're losing. 1143 00:53:57,061 --> 00:53:58,959 This is one of the worst mass extinction events 1144 00:53:58,994 --> 00:54:01,238 the planet Earth has ever seen. 1145 00:54:01,272 --> 00:54:02,929 So, what are they facing right now? 1146 00:54:02,963 --> 00:54:04,896 It's the same thing that we're all facing. 1147 00:54:04,931 --> 00:54:07,244 Pollution in the environment, 1148 00:54:07,278 --> 00:54:09,176 a simplified agricultural system, 1149 00:54:09,211 --> 00:54:12,421 a simplified landscape where they can't find food. 1150 00:54:12,456 --> 00:54:15,355 Suddenly, you've got starving,poisoned bees, and guess what -- 1151 00:54:15,390 --> 00:54:17,426 They get sick. 1152 00:54:17,461 --> 00:54:21,119 So, what do I see when I see this simplified system? 1153 00:54:21,154 --> 00:54:24,468 I see farmers that are ready to make a change, 1154 00:54:24,502 --> 00:54:26,021 but don't have -- 1155 00:54:26,055 --> 00:54:27,919 They're not hearing any voices telling them 1156 00:54:27,954 --> 00:54:29,231 what this is supposed to look like 1157 00:54:29,266 --> 00:54:31,060 or how to get it done. 1158 00:54:31,095 --> 00:54:33,511 And we can start that. 1159 00:54:33,546 --> 00:54:34,788 It's already started. 1160 00:54:34,823 --> 00:54:36,928 It's already started. 1161 00:54:36,963 --> 00:54:38,309 We know what we have to do. 1162 00:54:38,344 --> 00:54:40,484 It's just a matter of getting it done. 1163 00:54:50,563 --> 00:54:54,981 ♪♪ 1164 00:54:56,983 --> 00:54:59,572 -We got corn, soybeans, and small grains. 1165 00:54:59,606 --> 00:55:02,954 We got some rye. We're growing some canola. 1166 00:55:02,989 --> 00:55:05,232 That's up along the hill up here. 1167 00:55:05,267 --> 00:55:06,717 It's about two years old. 1168 00:55:06,751 --> 00:55:09,167 We're also growing some yellow field peas. 1169 00:55:09,202 --> 00:55:11,342 So, we got a diverse mix of some things, 1170 00:55:11,377 --> 00:55:16,347 but we're just not your standard farmers. 1171 00:55:16,382 --> 00:55:21,283 Last probably six, seven years, we've been farming 1172 00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:24,182 a little bit different than mainstream agriculture. 1173 00:55:24,217 --> 00:55:28,394 We've been trying to solve some problems 1174 00:55:28,428 --> 00:55:29,981 we're seeing on some of our farms 1175 00:55:30,016 --> 00:55:32,501 and bring it full circle 1176 00:55:32,536 --> 00:55:35,746 and bring it into modern agriculture 1177 00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:38,818 and not just be satisfied 1178 00:55:38,852 --> 00:55:42,028 with status quo, I guess. 1179 00:55:42,062 --> 00:55:44,375 A lot of things are self-pollinating. 1180 00:55:44,410 --> 00:55:47,344 That's why, I think, a lot of farmers 1181 00:55:47,378 --> 00:55:50,795 don't recognize bees as an important issue. 1182 00:55:50,830 --> 00:55:53,867 Because, well, what do I need to worry about bees for? 1183 00:55:53,902 --> 00:55:55,386 The rye pollinates itself. 1184 00:55:55,421 --> 00:55:58,389 The corn pollinates itself. 1185 00:55:58,424 --> 00:56:00,564 Farmers need to realize, is that the bees are, 1186 00:56:00,598 --> 00:56:02,186 like, one of the first line of defense 1187 00:56:02,220 --> 00:56:04,222 of why they're disappearing. 1188 00:56:04,257 --> 00:56:05,534 If the bees are disappearing, 1189 00:56:05,569 --> 00:56:07,156 what else has disappeared already, 1190 00:56:07,191 --> 00:56:09,642 because we don't count anything else. 1191 00:56:09,676 --> 00:56:13,024 And I think that's -- that's kind of the canary 1192 00:56:13,059 --> 00:56:15,889 in the mine shaft. 1193 00:56:15,924 --> 00:56:17,995 Opened our eyes up to pay attention 1194 00:56:18,029 --> 00:56:19,583 to what's going on the fields. 1195 00:56:19,617 --> 00:56:21,688 And people don't think 1196 00:56:21,723 --> 00:56:24,657 about how pollination is important but it's -- 1197 00:56:24,691 --> 00:56:28,419 Without pollination, we wouldn'thave nothing but a stalk here. 1198 00:56:28,454 --> 00:56:30,145 So... 1199 00:56:30,179 --> 00:56:33,459 Traditional farming guys have a breakeven on -- 1200 00:56:33,493 --> 00:56:34,839 They need the yields so much, 1201 00:56:34,874 --> 00:56:39,568 because I need to get a hundred bushel of corn 1202 00:56:39,603 --> 00:56:41,398 to sell for "X" amount of dollars 1203 00:56:41,432 --> 00:56:44,780 to pay for my input costs, to breakeven. 1204 00:56:44,815 --> 00:56:47,990 Anything above that's good -- that's the money you make. 1205 00:56:48,025 --> 00:56:51,511 But everybody gets focused on the yield, yield, yield. 1206 00:56:51,546 --> 00:56:53,375 We need more yield to make money. 1207 00:56:53,410 --> 00:56:55,550 And it's -- In my book, it's not all about yield. 1208 00:56:55,584 --> 00:56:59,070 It's about being profitable on the front side 1209 00:56:59,105 --> 00:57:03,281 with keeping your costs at bay. 1210 00:57:03,316 --> 00:57:05,111 Most farmers would be freaking out 1211 00:57:05,145 --> 00:57:06,699 by this crop that's standing here, 1212 00:57:06,733 --> 00:57:09,426 and I'm just tickled to death that it's still here yet. 1213 00:57:09,460 --> 00:57:11,255 This rye is going to lay down 1214 00:57:11,289 --> 00:57:15,224 and create a mat on top of the surface. 1215 00:57:15,259 --> 00:57:19,815 It's going to create a habitat for insects. 1216 00:57:19,850 --> 00:57:21,196 But it takes some management. 1217 00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:25,096 And the problem is, is this isn't simple. 1218 00:57:25,131 --> 00:57:27,961 This isn't -- This is outside the box, 1219 00:57:27,996 --> 00:57:29,480 and farmers want to be in the box. 1220 00:57:29,515 --> 00:57:30,895 They want to buy it in the jug. 1221 00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:33,588 They want to buy it in the bag. 1222 00:57:33,622 --> 00:57:35,900 I don't want to buy it in the bag or a jug 1223 00:57:35,935 --> 00:57:37,730 because that all costs me money. 1224 00:57:37,764 --> 00:57:40,491 Yes, cover crop seed costs me money, 1225 00:57:40,526 --> 00:57:43,252 but it's about learning how to work with nature 1226 00:57:43,287 --> 00:57:46,324 and allowing our plants to work for us. 1227 00:57:46,359 --> 00:57:48,568 -This was a soybean field last year. 1228 00:57:48,603 --> 00:57:50,225 And soon as the soybeans come off, 1229 00:57:50,259 --> 00:57:51,847 we get right on it with a drill 1230 00:57:51,882 --> 00:57:53,918 and plant the cover crop. 1231 00:57:53,953 --> 00:57:55,782 And it's the multispecies, 1232 00:57:55,817 --> 00:57:57,508 They call it multispecies. 1233 00:57:57,543 --> 00:58:00,062 It's crimson clover, the vetch, 1234 00:58:00,097 --> 00:58:03,410 the sweet peas, the rye. 1235 00:58:03,445 --> 00:58:06,275 He's got as much as seven and eight different varieties. 1236 00:58:06,310 --> 00:58:09,244 He's just he's always trying something. 1237 00:58:09,278 --> 00:58:12,350 Here we got vetch, 1238 00:58:12,385 --> 00:58:14,318 the purple flowers 1239 00:58:14,352 --> 00:58:16,976 and then crimson clover. 1240 00:58:17,010 --> 00:58:19,185 Right here is the vetch, lays down. 1241 00:58:19,219 --> 00:58:21,739 They're all the natural fertilizers. 1242 00:58:30,955 --> 00:58:33,302 This is before... 1243 00:58:33,337 --> 00:58:36,409 with everything up there, and this is the after. 1244 00:58:36,443 --> 00:58:39,377 And, the only thing 1245 00:58:39,412 --> 00:58:41,310 that disturbs this soil is the planter disk. 1246 00:58:41,345 --> 00:58:44,175 And this is the only place where it's worked up. 1247 00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:46,074 And that's just perfect. 1248 00:58:46,108 --> 00:58:48,663 ♪♪ 1249 00:58:48,697 --> 00:58:51,735 -Come to the realization that soil isn't dirt, 1250 00:58:51,769 --> 00:58:55,566 and that soil is a living, growing, thriving thing. 1251 00:58:55,601 --> 00:59:00,571 And just as you commented on why soil is so important 1252 00:59:00,606 --> 00:59:03,919 to the bee population and bee health, 1253 00:59:03,954 --> 00:59:06,404 it's also important to human health, also, 1254 00:59:06,439 --> 00:59:10,201 and that is something I think is hugely overlooked. 1255 00:59:10,236 --> 00:59:11,582 -We're trying. 1256 00:59:11,617 --> 00:59:13,101 You know, we're trying to help the environment. 1257 00:59:13,135 --> 00:59:14,309 I mean, we're doing all we can do 1258 00:59:14,343 --> 00:59:18,520 to do our share to save soils, 1259 00:59:18,555 --> 00:59:23,594 cut down on sprays, 1260 00:59:23,629 --> 00:59:27,667 just trying to help the environment, you know. 1261 00:59:27,702 --> 00:59:31,188 -So what we have here is kind ofa juxtaposition of contrast. 1262 00:59:31,222 --> 00:59:36,538 We've got what agriculture says,you know, 1263 00:59:36,573 --> 00:59:39,645 is a well-managed farm over here 1264 00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:43,614 and what I say is well managed farm over here, 1265 00:59:43,649 --> 00:59:46,721 as far as the diversity and stuff like that. 1266 00:59:46,755 --> 00:59:51,001 But this is soil from a heavily tilled field, right? 1267 00:59:51,035 --> 00:59:52,623 [ Thudding ] That's hard. 1268 00:59:52,658 --> 00:59:55,419 Imagine if you were a raindrop, and you were falling, 1269 00:59:55,453 --> 00:59:57,732 none of that water gets into the soil. 1270 00:59:57,766 --> 01:00:01,080 All of it just bounces off and then runs away, right? 1271 01:00:01,114 --> 01:00:03,772 Carrying, often times, a lot of your top soil with it. 1272 01:00:03,807 --> 01:00:05,532 I mean, when you -- [ Sniffs ] 1273 01:00:05,567 --> 01:00:09,088 When you smell it, there's not a lot there, right? 1274 01:00:09,122 --> 01:00:10,986 You break it up and what happens? 1275 01:00:11,021 --> 01:00:12,263 It plates off. 1276 01:00:12,298 --> 01:00:13,679 It plates. Look at that. 1277 01:00:13,713 --> 01:00:16,026 because there's nothing growing in there. 1278 01:00:16,060 --> 01:00:18,787 There's very little organic matter, okay. 1279 01:00:18,822 --> 01:00:21,100 Breaking it up -- I don't see any worms. 1280 01:00:21,134 --> 01:00:23,930 I don't see any ants, nothing. 1281 01:00:26,588 --> 01:00:30,212 So, now let's take a look at what we've got over here 1282 01:00:30,247 --> 01:00:32,870 in our regenerative soil. 1283 01:00:35,493 --> 01:00:37,668 Now look at this. Look at this. 1284 01:00:37,703 --> 01:00:39,152 That... 1285 01:00:39,187 --> 01:00:41,810 That is a healthy soil. 1286 01:00:41,845 --> 01:00:43,294 It crumbles. 1287 01:00:43,329 --> 01:00:45,227 That is a healthy soil. 1288 01:00:45,262 --> 01:00:47,954 You want to know the answer to your bee problem is? 1289 01:00:47,989 --> 01:00:49,611 Right there. 1290 01:00:49,646 --> 01:00:52,683 This is the answer to the bee problem. 1291 01:00:52,718 --> 01:00:57,170 If we got this on most of America's soils again, 1292 01:00:57,205 --> 01:00:59,379 your bees would stop dying. 1293 01:00:59,414 --> 01:01:03,936 ♪♪ 1294 01:01:05,938 --> 01:01:09,873 -Well, we're sitting 25 miles from New York City 1295 01:01:09,907 --> 01:01:13,739 in the middle of a working farm and education center 1296 01:01:13,773 --> 01:01:18,019 that explores the intersection between animal, vegetable, 1297 01:01:18,053 --> 01:01:20,711 and grain agriculture and the dining table, 1298 01:01:20,746 --> 01:01:22,748 the community around food, 1299 01:01:22,782 --> 01:01:25,682 and how do we promote good agriculture 1300 01:01:25,716 --> 01:01:27,062 and how do we talk about it 1301 01:01:27,097 --> 01:01:30,825 and inspire others to do this kind of system 1302 01:01:30,859 --> 01:01:33,759 in other regions of the country and the world? 1303 01:01:33,793 --> 01:01:37,970 -We want to generate health in this space, 1304 01:01:38,004 --> 01:01:41,007 first with the soil and the environment around it, 1305 01:01:41,042 --> 01:01:44,321 and that all areas, not just the production, 1306 01:01:44,355 --> 01:01:45,736 are really our focus. 1307 01:01:45,771 --> 01:01:48,705 We recognize the value of habitat 1308 01:01:48,739 --> 01:01:52,812 and the value of buffer and diversity and rotation 1309 01:01:52,847 --> 01:01:54,158 and soil health 1310 01:01:54,193 --> 01:01:59,301 as sort of components to long-term sustainability. 1311 01:01:59,336 --> 01:02:00,751 In the face of climate change, 1312 01:02:00,786 --> 01:02:03,133 these systems are much more resilient. 1313 01:02:03,167 --> 01:02:04,686 Protecting the land around us, 1314 01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:08,310 protecting the soil under us is really our obligation, 1315 01:02:08,345 --> 01:02:10,657 and from that, we get delicious, 1316 01:02:10,692 --> 01:02:13,660 nourishing products. 1317 01:02:13,695 --> 01:02:17,285 -Diversity is useful 1318 01:02:17,319 --> 01:02:19,252 because nature 1319 01:02:19,287 --> 01:02:23,463 is complicated. 1320 01:02:23,498 --> 01:02:25,500 Evolution has produced 1321 01:02:25,534 --> 01:02:27,744 an enormously intricate 1322 01:02:27,778 --> 01:02:32,990 and interesting world around us 1323 01:02:33,025 --> 01:02:34,785 with billions of niches 1324 01:02:34,820 --> 01:02:38,789 filled by different creatures doing different things. 1325 01:02:38,824 --> 01:02:43,276 And the human effort to simplify, basically, 1326 01:02:43,311 --> 01:02:44,761 is an effort of pulling out 1327 01:02:44,795 --> 01:02:46,659 as many of those pieces as you can 1328 01:02:46,693 --> 01:02:48,695 and seeing what you can get away with. 1329 01:02:48,730 --> 01:02:50,007 -When I look out and I see, 1330 01:02:50,042 --> 01:02:53,873 you know, simplified agriculture, 1331 01:02:53,908 --> 01:02:55,806 I see an opportunity, I guess. 1332 01:02:55,841 --> 01:02:58,913 You know, 5% of the terrestrial land surface of the country 1333 01:02:58,947 --> 01:03:00,880 right now is corn. 1334 01:03:00,915 --> 01:03:05,022 It's not 5% of the crop land. 5% of the land. 1335 01:03:05,057 --> 01:03:06,921 One plant species. 1336 01:03:06,955 --> 01:03:10,579 It's all maintained with chemical fertilizers, 1337 01:03:10,614 --> 01:03:12,858 most of it's genetically modified, 1338 01:03:12,892 --> 01:03:15,343 almost all of it is treated with glyphosate, 1339 01:03:15,377 --> 01:03:19,174 almost all of it is treated withneonicotinoid seed treatments. 1340 01:03:19,209 --> 01:03:22,660 One corn seed has enough neonicotinoid seed treatment 1341 01:03:22,695 --> 01:03:25,284 on it to kill tens of thousands of bees. 1342 01:03:25,318 --> 01:03:28,390 There is a real sense of urgency right now. 1343 01:03:28,425 --> 01:03:33,464 Climates are shifting because ofhow we're producing our foods. 1344 01:03:33,499 --> 01:03:36,088 Pollution is rampant right now 1345 01:03:36,122 --> 01:03:38,745 because of how we're producing our food. 1346 01:03:38,780 --> 01:03:40,609 That also gives us an opportunity, 1347 01:03:40,644 --> 01:03:42,301 a large scale opportunity, 1348 01:03:42,335 --> 01:03:45,166 because our food production system is so extensive, 1349 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,895 to solve these planetary scale problems. 1350 01:03:49,929 --> 01:03:51,413 ♪♪ 1351 01:03:51,448 --> 01:03:54,934 -The strip we're standing on is actually a pollinator strip. 1352 01:03:54,969 --> 01:03:56,902 The farmer that I rent this from, 1353 01:03:56,936 --> 01:03:58,869 he grows pumpkins and sweet corn, 1354 01:03:58,904 --> 01:04:01,009 and the last three, four years, 1355 01:04:01,044 --> 01:04:04,495 his goal and my goal is create habitat 1356 01:04:04,530 --> 01:04:06,843 for beneficial insects and the bees. 1357 01:04:06,877 --> 01:04:08,983 Part of the field, it doesn't get sprayed, 1358 01:04:09,017 --> 01:04:11,433 just to start working with nature a little bit 1359 01:04:11,468 --> 01:04:13,746 and help them out a little bit. 1360 01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:16,093 He takes pumpkins to local produce over here, 1361 01:04:16,128 --> 01:04:19,096 and they want to know how much time he spends 1362 01:04:19,131 --> 01:04:21,098 washing his pumpkins, and he said, 1363 01:04:21,133 --> 01:04:22,686 "I don't wash my pumpkins hardly anymore 1364 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,756 because they're all clean. 1365 01:04:23,790 --> 01:04:25,068 They lay on top of this rye." 1366 01:04:25,102 --> 01:04:26,586 And they said, "Well, you're full of mud. 1367 01:04:26,621 --> 01:04:27,898 You can't no-till pumpkins," 1368 01:04:27,933 --> 01:04:30,901 and he's like, "Well, come to my farm." 1369 01:04:32,834 --> 01:04:34,111 -What we've got here is -- 1370 01:04:34,146 --> 01:04:36,044 this is going to be a pumpkin field. 1371 01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:39,737 So, about a month ago, we came in, 1372 01:04:39,772 --> 01:04:42,533 and we planted an early pollinator strip, 1373 01:04:42,568 --> 01:04:45,191 which was buckwheat and mustard, 1374 01:04:45,226 --> 01:04:48,677 and the idea is to try to get that established quickly 1375 01:04:48,712 --> 01:04:50,783 so that when you know, 1376 01:04:50,817 --> 01:04:52,923 we do start to plant pumpkins in here, 1377 01:04:52,958 --> 01:04:56,858 that there already will be something existing 1378 01:04:56,893 --> 01:04:58,895 to attract our beneficial insects. 1379 01:04:58,929 --> 01:05:01,207 The idea to that is then that we will have something 1380 01:05:01,242 --> 01:05:04,831 blooming the entire time that the pumpkins are growing. 1381 01:05:04,866 --> 01:05:08,628 So, another tactic, if you want to put it that way, 1382 01:05:08,663 --> 01:05:10,596 we tried this year was... 1383 01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:12,529 Now, we did this about 10 days ago, 1384 01:05:12,563 --> 01:05:14,807 where we came in, and we planted a row 1385 01:05:14,841 --> 01:05:16,119 of Blue Hubbard squash. 1386 01:05:16,153 --> 01:05:18,397 I've been told by numerous seed companies 1387 01:05:18,431 --> 01:05:20,123 and also other producers 1388 01:05:20,157 --> 01:05:23,989 that Blue Hubbard squash attractthe cucumber beetles 1389 01:05:24,023 --> 01:05:26,267 particularly more than they will attract 1390 01:05:26,301 --> 01:05:27,993 to regular pumpkin plants. 1391 01:05:28,027 --> 01:05:33,619 The idea is, it creates a trap for these bugs to come to. 1392 01:05:33,653 --> 01:05:35,586 So, I pulled back the rye here 1393 01:05:35,621 --> 01:05:37,485 that was the cover crop in this field, 1394 01:05:37,519 --> 01:05:40,350 and this is one of the Blue Hubbard plants right here. 1395 01:05:40,384 --> 01:05:42,904 You can see how it's chewed. 1396 01:05:42,939 --> 01:05:45,217 Now, the cucumber beetles you're not seeing right now 1397 01:05:45,251 --> 01:05:46,908 because they're very shy. 1398 01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:48,254 As soon as they hear or see something, 1399 01:05:48,289 --> 01:05:51,809 they take off and hide in the residue, 1400 01:05:51,844 --> 01:05:55,952 which you can see here, as well,which feeds our biologics 1401 01:05:55,986 --> 01:05:59,852 and our critters that live in our soils here. 1402 01:05:59,886 --> 01:06:01,785 But there you can see what we got, 1403 01:06:01,819 --> 01:06:06,479 and they're just chewing the bejeepers out of this row, 1404 01:06:06,514 --> 01:06:08,654 and if we go over here... 1405 01:06:10,138 --> 01:06:13,279 ...here's a row that's 6 feet away from it, 1406 01:06:13,314 --> 01:06:16,144 and this isn't just one that I picked out. 1407 01:06:16,179 --> 01:06:18,146 They're in a row here, every 4 feet. 1408 01:06:18,181 --> 01:06:20,873 You can see that this plant is green and lush 1409 01:06:20,907 --> 01:06:24,428 and no insect damage on it, whatsoever. 1410 01:06:24,463 --> 01:06:27,017 There's another one and right on down the row. 1411 01:06:27,052 --> 01:06:30,779 This is not the results I expected to see this early. 1412 01:06:30,814 --> 01:06:32,643 I really didn't expect to see this till later 1413 01:06:32,678 --> 01:06:34,611 when there was actual flowers on them 1414 01:06:34,645 --> 01:06:35,992 and there'd be more pollen there 1415 01:06:36,026 --> 01:06:38,649 and that pollen I believe is more attracted -- 1416 01:06:38,684 --> 01:06:42,136 the cucumber beetles are more attracted to that type pollen. 1417 01:06:42,170 --> 01:06:44,586 So, it has just really been amazing, 1418 01:06:44,621 --> 01:06:46,899 and, like I said, we're in the very beginning stages of this, 1419 01:06:46,933 --> 01:06:49,453 but man, it's got me fired up right now. 1420 01:06:49,488 --> 01:06:52,042 So, we're excited. 1421 01:06:52,077 --> 01:06:53,423 What we're going to do is, 1422 01:06:53,457 --> 01:06:56,081 we're going to use our little hand sprayer 1423 01:06:56,115 --> 01:06:58,152 and we're only going to spray this row. 1424 01:06:58,186 --> 01:07:00,740 If we can keep them contained to one area 1425 01:07:00,775 --> 01:07:02,777 and not have to spray insecticide 1426 01:07:02,811 --> 01:07:04,020 over the entire field, 1427 01:07:04,054 --> 01:07:06,125 which, you know, most of the insecticides, 1428 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,507 when you spray it, you kill everything, 1429 01:07:08,541 --> 01:07:11,406 and we don't want to do that. 1430 01:07:11,441 --> 01:07:14,099 [ Sheep bleat ] 1431 01:07:14,133 --> 01:07:16,446 -Regenerative farming, number one, 1432 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,311 it's the future of our food production system. 1433 01:07:19,345 --> 01:07:21,140 I don't see any other way around it. 1434 01:07:21,175 --> 01:07:24,419 The principles seem to be consistent. 1435 01:07:24,454 --> 01:07:26,007 Do not disturb the soil. 1436 01:07:26,042 --> 01:07:29,493 Tillage was one of our biggest follies. 1437 01:07:29,528 --> 01:07:33,670 Number two, there should always be a living root in that soil. 1438 01:07:33,704 --> 01:07:36,983 Number three is, some diversity of plants 1439 01:07:37,018 --> 01:07:38,399 is better than none, 1440 01:07:38,433 --> 01:07:40,573 and more is better than less. 1441 01:07:40,608 --> 01:07:43,473 And then the final principle that seems to be unifying 1442 01:07:43,507 --> 01:07:46,096 in all of these different regenerative farms 1443 01:07:46,131 --> 01:07:50,100 is integrating crops and livestock production. 1444 01:07:50,135 --> 01:07:51,860 We separated them, didn't we? 1445 01:07:51,895 --> 01:07:53,793 We partitioned those things, 1446 01:07:53,828 --> 01:07:57,763 so now we ship our grain from our cornfield 1447 01:07:57,797 --> 01:07:59,213 over to a feed lot 1448 01:07:59,247 --> 01:08:01,111 and shove it down a cow's throat, 1449 01:08:01,146 --> 01:08:02,733 and then we have to pump the manure 1450 01:08:02,768 --> 01:08:04,839 back over onto the crop ground, 1451 01:08:04,873 --> 01:08:08,118 and that's like, what on Earth happened here? 1452 01:08:08,153 --> 01:08:09,740 When, really, all the cows want to do 1453 01:08:09,775 --> 01:08:12,881 is just eat grass to begin with. 1454 01:08:12,916 --> 01:08:16,057 -It's also an opportunity where everybody wins. 1455 01:08:16,092 --> 01:08:18,266 The farmers win. The beekeepers win. 1456 01:08:18,301 --> 01:08:21,166 Rural communities are regenerated. 1457 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,168 Natural resources are rebuilt. 1458 01:08:23,202 --> 01:08:25,342 When these farmers start to adopt 1459 01:08:25,377 --> 01:08:27,758 these really innovative practices, 1460 01:08:27,793 --> 01:08:29,829 then they become the mouthpieces. 1461 01:08:29,864 --> 01:08:31,383 They have so much more credibility 1462 01:08:31,417 --> 01:08:33,454 than a scientist does with their neighbors. 1463 01:08:33,488 --> 01:08:35,318 You know, there's a relationship there, 1464 01:08:35,352 --> 01:08:36,698 and there's a trust there 1465 01:08:36,733 --> 01:08:39,977 and seeing is believing. 1466 01:08:40,012 --> 01:08:42,083 -20 years from now, cover crops 1467 01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:44,258 and that regenerative farming will be the norm. 1468 01:08:44,292 --> 01:08:47,882 I think we've probably hit the worst spot for bees, 1469 01:08:47,916 --> 01:08:49,677 and we're on the mend now. 1470 01:08:49,711 --> 01:08:51,920 It hasn't had a lot of acceptance, 1471 01:08:51,955 --> 01:08:54,164 but there's cutting edge guys in every community 1472 01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:56,580 that are starting to do this and experiment. 1473 01:08:56,615 --> 01:09:00,481 And, you know, more than policy, 1474 01:09:00,515 --> 01:09:03,069 what gets buy-in is new pickups. 1475 01:09:03,104 --> 01:09:05,175 So, when they're successful, 1476 01:09:05,210 --> 01:09:08,903 their neighbors will notice it, and anyway, 1477 01:09:08,937 --> 01:09:10,663 then that word will spread like wildflower, 1478 01:09:10,698 --> 01:09:16,152 'cause even faster than policy, new pickups. [ Chuckles ] 1479 01:09:16,186 --> 01:09:18,913 That's what spreads techniques. 1480 01:09:18,947 --> 01:09:23,124 ♪♪ 1481 01:09:23,159 --> 01:09:25,230 -We probably ought to talk a little bit about EPA, 1482 01:09:25,264 --> 01:09:30,959 'cause, you know, EPA, in my opinion, 1483 01:09:30,994 --> 01:09:34,239 has been co-opted by the people 1484 01:09:34,273 --> 01:09:36,241 they're supposed to regulate. 1485 01:09:36,275 --> 01:09:38,346 -[ Sighs ] 1486 01:09:38,381 --> 01:09:42,764 EPA should be taking care of, protecting our environment. 1487 01:09:42,799 --> 01:09:43,972 I call them the CPA. 1488 01:09:44,007 --> 01:09:46,147 They're chemical protection agency. 1489 01:09:46,182 --> 01:09:49,771 I've talked to people from EPA in bee meetings already 1490 01:09:49,806 --> 01:09:51,739 about just, like, this corn deal. 1491 01:09:51,773 --> 01:09:54,259 They know planting this corn. They've tested the dust. 1492 01:09:54,293 --> 01:09:56,502 They know how bad this chemical issue is 1493 01:09:56,537 --> 01:09:59,298 coming off the corn, but when you talk to them, 1494 01:09:59,333 --> 01:10:01,127 the first thing out of the guy's mouth is, 1495 01:10:01,162 --> 01:10:03,199 "What do you want me to do, tell the farmer he can't use 1496 01:10:03,233 --> 01:10:05,408 his new $150,000 piece of equipment?" 1497 01:10:05,442 --> 01:10:07,962 And that my thing was, what does it matter to you? 1498 01:10:07,996 --> 01:10:09,998 You're the EPA, 1499 01:10:10,033 --> 01:10:11,517 the Environmental Protection Agency. 1500 01:10:11,552 --> 01:10:14,140 Your job is protecting the environment at all cost. 1501 01:10:14,175 --> 01:10:15,659 It doesn't matter what that farmer paid 1502 01:10:15,694 --> 01:10:17,143 for that piece of machinery. 1503 01:10:17,178 --> 01:10:19,145 It doesn't matter what the chemical company paid 1504 01:10:19,180 --> 01:10:20,768 to put that chemical on the market. 1505 01:10:20,802 --> 01:10:22,839 Your job is protecting the environment. 1506 01:10:22,873 --> 01:10:26,118 -EPA doesn't do much original science, 1507 01:10:26,152 --> 01:10:27,947 certainly not the regulatory branches, 1508 01:10:27,982 --> 01:10:30,018 like the Office of Pesticide Programs. 1509 01:10:30,053 --> 01:10:32,883 The Office of Research and Development does, 1510 01:10:32,918 --> 01:10:34,540 but they don't regulate anything. 1511 01:10:34,575 --> 01:10:37,785 The Office of Pesticide Programshas people who review studies 1512 01:10:37,819 --> 01:10:40,270 that are done by, typically, 1513 01:10:40,305 --> 01:10:41,961 chemical manufacturers, themselves, 1514 01:10:41,996 --> 01:10:46,000 or consulting companies that they hire to do these studies. 1515 01:10:46,034 --> 01:10:47,726 Guidelines for studies on honey bees 1516 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,279 are not very well developed yet, 1517 01:10:49,314 --> 01:10:50,832 and just in the last few years 1518 01:10:50,867 --> 01:10:53,490 do they even have some guidelines. 1519 01:10:53,525 --> 01:10:55,699 And I would say there's only been probably 1520 01:10:55,734 --> 01:11:00,117 three or four real studies done 1521 01:11:00,152 --> 01:11:03,051 that look at the bees in their environment, 1522 01:11:03,086 --> 01:11:05,606 instead of in the lab. 1523 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,988 -I think there's infighting sometimes in the EPA. 1524 01:11:09,023 --> 01:11:12,302 And some are looking out for the money stream 1525 01:11:12,337 --> 01:11:15,236 to the political appointees who, you know, 1526 01:11:15,271 --> 01:11:18,274 answer to different politicians that want donations, 1527 01:11:18,308 --> 01:11:20,206 and then others are very concerned 1528 01:11:20,241 --> 01:11:22,036 with science and policy 1529 01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:24,452 and making sure we get good science, 1530 01:11:24,487 --> 01:11:27,075 and I think there's sometimes an internal fight, 1531 01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:28,594 and we, as citizens and taxpayers, 1532 01:11:28,629 --> 01:11:31,045 don't get the best results when those internal fights 1533 01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:32,667 are happening. 1534 01:11:32,702 --> 01:11:34,324 -Rules got changed at EPA. 1535 01:11:34,359 --> 01:11:37,085 Instead of registering a product 1536 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,674 and making sure this product's okay, 1537 01:11:39,709 --> 01:11:43,885 we come up with a new thingcalled conditional registration. 1538 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,508 Here's the packet. 1539 01:11:45,542 --> 01:11:46,578 We did the research. 1540 01:11:46,612 --> 01:11:48,925 We want a conditional registration. 1541 01:11:48,959 --> 01:11:50,823 The rules read that, 1542 01:11:50,858 --> 01:11:54,102 after this product's out there, 1543 01:11:54,137 --> 01:11:56,035 EPA has to review it, 1544 01:11:56,070 --> 01:12:00,143 and it can only be there so longwith conditional registration. 1545 01:12:00,177 --> 01:12:01,834 And it just go on like that for years. 1546 01:12:01,869 --> 01:12:03,871 Nobody ever does any more about it. 1547 01:12:03,905 --> 01:12:05,424 -Sometimes, you look and think, 1548 01:12:05,459 --> 01:12:07,909 "Well, is there a great cabal?" 1549 01:12:07,944 --> 01:12:11,050 [ Chuckling ] And I don't know if there is or not, 1550 01:12:11,085 --> 01:12:13,639 but it does look like a lot of times, 1551 01:12:13,674 --> 01:12:17,160 you have what's called, I guess in political science, 1552 01:12:17,194 --> 01:12:19,024 "the captured client," 1553 01:12:19,058 --> 01:12:20,991 where the regulated ends up 1554 01:12:21,026 --> 01:12:23,511 controlling the regulator. 1555 01:12:23,546 --> 01:12:26,894 And it's the idea that a registrant that wants -- 1556 01:12:26,928 --> 01:12:28,413 or a manufacturer, 1557 01:12:28,447 --> 01:12:31,450 that's a nice name for a manufacturer of a product -- 1558 01:12:31,485 --> 01:12:33,176 wants to bring a product to the market, 1559 01:12:33,210 --> 01:12:36,075 so he'll write up the test 1560 01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:38,802 and show the EPA the test he wants to do 1561 01:12:38,837 --> 01:12:42,565 to test the product for its environmental impact. 1562 01:12:42,599 --> 01:12:46,016 Then they'll give him the nod, "Yeah, this is a good test." 1563 01:12:46,051 --> 01:12:48,053 Then he'll go test it, 1564 01:12:48,087 --> 01:12:51,297 and he'll generate all the results himself, 1565 01:12:51,332 --> 01:12:52,782 and then he'll give the results 1566 01:12:52,816 --> 01:12:54,887 back to the EPA for evaluation. 1567 01:12:54,922 --> 01:12:57,407 So, you know, given that model, 1568 01:12:57,442 --> 01:12:59,064 I think there's not a single person 1569 01:12:59,098 --> 01:13:00,755 that couldn't be a Harvard scholar. 1570 01:13:00,790 --> 01:13:03,033 It's like, I get to write my own test, 1571 01:13:03,068 --> 01:13:04,897 I get to take my own test, 1572 01:13:04,932 --> 01:13:07,210 and I get to turn the results in. 1573 01:13:07,244 --> 01:13:11,110 I know it came about on Libertarian ideas -- 1574 01:13:11,145 --> 01:13:12,974 the person that benefits from the product 1575 01:13:13,009 --> 01:13:15,183 should pay for the process, 1576 01:13:15,218 --> 01:13:19,291 but it's like giving yourself a speeding ticket. 1577 01:13:19,325 --> 01:13:22,398 It's just not gonna happen. [ Chuckles ] 1578 01:13:22,432 --> 01:13:24,365 -You know, over the years, I've been to the EPA 1579 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,023 on many, many occasions, and, of course, 1580 01:13:27,057 --> 01:13:29,094 gentleman that's the chief toxicologist 1581 01:13:29,128 --> 01:13:30,336 for Bayer Crop Science, 1582 01:13:30,371 --> 01:13:31,786 I meet him walking down the street. 1583 01:13:31,821 --> 01:13:34,202 We're a block from the EPA. 1584 01:13:34,237 --> 01:13:36,653 We walk in the door, 1585 01:13:36,688 --> 01:13:38,241 walk through security, 1586 01:13:38,275 --> 01:13:41,106 send our stuff through security,stand there in the lobby, 1587 01:13:41,140 --> 01:13:43,729 having to still finishing our conversation. 1588 01:13:43,764 --> 01:13:45,869 The gentleman coming to get me, because somebody 1589 01:13:45,904 --> 01:13:49,666 has to come down from upstairs to get me, gets me. 1590 01:13:49,701 --> 01:13:51,703 But while we're standing there having a conversation 1591 01:13:51,737 --> 01:13:55,361 with the EPA fellow, the Bayer Crop Science guy 1592 01:13:55,396 --> 01:14:00,263 gets on the elevator by himself and disappears. 1593 01:14:00,297 --> 01:14:01,575 I said to my friend from the EPA, 1594 01:14:01,609 --> 01:14:03,818 I said, "Oh, how does that work?" 1595 01:14:03,853 --> 01:14:05,682 His answer was, "Well, they're like the angels, 1596 01:14:05,717 --> 01:14:08,098 They come through the third story window." 1597 01:14:08,133 --> 01:14:09,652 So one of the problems we got here is, 1598 01:14:09,686 --> 01:14:13,828 we got too many people who know too many people, 1599 01:14:13,863 --> 01:14:15,243 And if you go to EPA, 1600 01:14:15,278 --> 01:14:16,935 it don't take you long to figure it out, 1601 01:14:16,969 --> 01:14:18,764 who worked for who, 1602 01:14:18,799 --> 01:14:20,732 or they leave EPA 1603 01:14:20,766 --> 01:14:23,562 and go get a very good job 1604 01:14:23,597 --> 01:14:26,082 or position at one of these companies. 1605 01:14:26,116 --> 01:14:27,532 As a taxpayer, 1606 01:14:27,566 --> 01:14:30,431 do I feel confident that they're protecting me? 1607 01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:35,401 No, they're not protecting me because they're basically 1608 01:14:35,436 --> 01:14:37,542 taking money from the chemical company 1609 01:14:37,576 --> 01:14:41,511 for registration to do the paperwork. 1610 01:14:41,546 --> 01:14:43,030 And that's how it all works. 1611 01:14:43,064 --> 01:14:44,963 You know, they're paying EPA. 1612 01:14:44,997 --> 01:14:50,693 -There's tremendous money invested in the current system, 1613 01:14:50,727 --> 01:14:55,214 and that money funds campaign contributions. 1614 01:14:55,249 --> 01:14:59,322 Those campaign contributions then influence 1615 01:14:59,356 --> 01:15:03,533 what senators and congressmen ultimately vote for, 1616 01:15:03,568 --> 01:15:08,676 and if you are jeopardizing those contributions, 1617 01:15:08,711 --> 01:15:12,162 then, suddenly, your federal agency's budget gets cut. 1618 01:15:12,197 --> 01:15:13,785 -Good friend of mine at EPA says, 1619 01:15:13,819 --> 01:15:15,787 "Every time I go into a meeting and start raising Cain 1620 01:15:15,821 --> 01:15:19,307 about something, I'm told to shut up. 1621 01:15:19,342 --> 01:15:21,965 Just remember, if they're not around, 1622 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,277 you ain't going to have a job." 1623 01:15:23,311 --> 01:15:26,314 You know, it's just that simple. 1624 01:15:26,349 --> 01:15:29,870 -The USDA, the FDA, the EPA -- 1625 01:15:29,904 --> 01:15:31,699 I mean, they're all government employees, 1626 01:15:31,734 --> 01:15:33,598 and I think there's a solidarity in that, 1627 01:15:33,632 --> 01:15:36,290 but the reality is that, no, they don't really -- 1628 01:15:36,324 --> 01:15:39,983 In my experience, I didn't feel like they were -- 1629 01:15:40,018 --> 01:15:43,608 they were working together for a common goal. 1630 01:15:43,642 --> 01:15:45,782 And especially the EPA and the USDA. 1631 01:15:45,817 --> 01:15:49,545 I mean, the USDA's job is to support agriculture. 1632 01:15:49,579 --> 01:15:52,582 The EPA's job is to protect the environment, right? 1633 01:15:52,617 --> 01:15:56,413 And so when agriculture destroys the environment, 1634 01:15:56,448 --> 01:15:59,002 then what happens, you know? 1635 01:15:59,037 --> 01:16:03,559 You would think that there wouldbe a common mind on this, 1636 01:16:03,593 --> 01:16:07,770 but the reality is, no, at least not in my experience. 1637 01:16:07,804 --> 01:16:11,394 -My naiveness that this thing was going to be fixed in, 1638 01:16:11,428 --> 01:16:13,120 you know a matter of time, 1639 01:16:13,154 --> 01:16:14,639 that's, you know... 1640 01:16:14,673 --> 01:16:16,710 It'll probably never happen in my lifetime. 1641 01:16:16,744 --> 01:16:18,263 I think the only way it ever gets fixed 1642 01:16:18,297 --> 01:16:19,885 is if the farmers themselves fix it. 1643 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,649 ♪♪ 1644 01:16:24,683 --> 01:16:26,754 [ Bees buzzing ] 1645 01:16:26,789 --> 01:16:30,309 ♪♪ 1646 01:16:35,314 --> 01:16:37,351 -After the almond pollination, 1647 01:16:37,385 --> 01:16:40,837 we took a projectof re-queening all of our hives. 1648 01:16:40,872 --> 01:16:42,080 So, just because 1649 01:16:42,114 --> 01:16:45,670 of the environmental stresses on bees nowadays, 1650 01:16:45,704 --> 01:16:48,811 we re-queen every hive every year. 1651 01:16:48,845 --> 01:16:51,917 Concurrent to that, I had a part of my men take bees up 1652 01:16:51,952 --> 01:16:54,023 and pollinate apples and cherries in Washington, 1653 01:16:54,057 --> 01:16:56,646 and then we brought those bees back down. 1654 01:16:56,681 --> 01:16:58,337 And then after that, we began 1655 01:16:58,372 --> 01:17:01,237 the spring and summer honey season. 1656 01:17:01,271 --> 01:17:02,756 -Out here with the bees. 1657 01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:05,655 Sweet honey, and we are treating them, 1658 01:17:05,690 --> 01:17:08,071 putting some powder patties on them. 1659 01:17:08,106 --> 01:17:10,453 Keep them healthy. 1660 01:17:10,487 --> 01:17:12,628 -Smoke makes the bees very mellow. 1661 01:17:12,662 --> 01:17:15,389 The bees think that there's a forest fire coming, 1662 01:17:15,423 --> 01:17:17,978 so they start gorging themselveswith honey, 1663 01:17:18,012 --> 01:17:19,876 and it makes them really docile. 1664 01:17:19,911 --> 01:17:23,569 We put bees on the citrus to make citrus honey. 1665 01:17:23,604 --> 01:17:25,744 Then we started bringing bees back here 1666 01:17:25,779 --> 01:17:29,886 to make our wildflower, our clover, and alfalfa honey. 1667 01:17:29,921 --> 01:17:33,062 And in June, we're finished spreading them out 1668 01:17:33,096 --> 01:17:34,857 across the prairie here 1669 01:17:34,891 --> 01:17:37,653 and putting on extra boxes for honey. 1670 01:17:37,687 --> 01:17:40,690 And in July, we let the bees do their work 1671 01:17:40,725 --> 01:17:43,555 and try and fill up those boxes. 1672 01:17:43,589 --> 01:17:45,074 -Well, we've been everywhere. 1673 01:17:45,108 --> 01:17:46,662 Bees were in California, 1674 01:17:46,696 --> 01:17:49,147 and then they came back to Georgia and South Carolina, 1675 01:17:49,181 --> 01:17:51,114 and then they came back up to Pennsylvania -- 1676 01:17:51,149 --> 01:17:52,322 pollinated apples 1677 01:17:52,357 --> 01:17:54,635 in Pennsylvania, here in southern PA, 1678 01:17:54,670 --> 01:17:56,464 and now the western part of the state. 1679 01:17:56,499 --> 01:17:59,019 And from there, a large portion of them 1680 01:17:59,053 --> 01:18:01,504 went to Maine to pollinate blueberries. 1681 01:18:01,538 --> 01:18:03,437 I'm leaving a day and a half here, 1682 01:18:03,471 --> 01:18:05,266 give or take, to go back up there 1683 01:18:05,301 --> 01:18:07,717 and spend the next week rounding them up 1684 01:18:07,752 --> 01:18:09,961 and sending them to Davey in New York 1685 01:18:09,995 --> 01:18:11,928 to use them to make honey and make more bees. 1686 01:18:11,963 --> 01:18:13,033 -This time a year, 1687 01:18:13,067 --> 01:18:15,483 we're beginning harvest full throttle, 1688 01:18:15,518 --> 01:18:18,176 because we want to have everything harvested 1689 01:18:18,210 --> 01:18:19,729 by the middle of September 1690 01:18:19,764 --> 01:18:22,007 and we'll ship themto the West Coast for the winter 1691 01:18:22,042 --> 01:18:25,942 before the prairies become really cold and unbearable. 1692 01:18:25,977 --> 01:18:27,944 First step in the harvest 1693 01:18:27,979 --> 01:18:30,015 is taking the honey away from the bees. 1694 01:18:30,050 --> 01:18:31,672 And then we'll heat it up, 1695 01:18:31,707 --> 01:18:34,330 and our first machine will take these little wax caps off. 1696 01:18:34,364 --> 01:18:36,712 Just a very thin layer of wax. 1697 01:18:36,746 --> 01:18:39,093 The bees put this cap on when they get it dry enough 1698 01:18:39,128 --> 01:18:41,371 so it won't spoil. 1699 01:18:41,406 --> 01:18:44,512 When it gets down below 18.5% moisture, 1700 01:18:44,547 --> 01:18:46,998 it becomes so dry that it can't ferment. 1701 01:18:47,032 --> 01:18:48,758 And so they put the cap on to keep it 1702 01:18:48,793 --> 01:18:50,760 from re-absorbing moisture. 1703 01:18:50,795 --> 01:18:52,969 And then we'll put it in a centrifuge. 1704 01:18:53,004 --> 01:18:56,662 It will spin the frame, and that will throw it out, 1705 01:18:56,697 --> 01:18:59,182 and we'll sell that honey to a packing house. 1706 01:18:59,217 --> 01:19:03,083 And then you can enjoy the same thing I'm enjoying. 1707 01:19:03,117 --> 01:19:06,465 If it was any fresher, you'd have to be a bee. 1708 01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:09,123 [ Whirring ] 1709 01:19:29,143 --> 01:19:31,801 -Well, we're getting ready to move south for the winter. 1710 01:19:31,836 --> 01:19:34,321 It's time. The cold weather is coming. 1711 01:19:34,355 --> 01:19:35,978 It's just that time of the season, 1712 01:19:36,012 --> 01:19:39,050 it's a vicious cycle, as I call it. 1713 01:19:39,084 --> 01:19:40,396 When the seasons change, 1714 01:19:40,430 --> 01:19:43,019 the bees need to go with the seasons. 1715 01:19:43,054 --> 01:19:45,884 [ Engines idling ] [ Indistinct conversation ] 1716 01:19:56,032 --> 01:20:00,381 ♪♪ 1717 01:20:02,383 --> 01:20:06,732 ♪♪ 1718 01:20:08,734 --> 01:20:10,771 -When I sit next to someone in a plane 1719 01:20:10,806 --> 01:20:13,878 and they hear that I'm involved with bees, 1720 01:20:13,912 --> 01:20:17,053 almost invariably they know there are problems with bees, 1721 01:20:17,088 --> 01:20:19,849 and they want to know what are the problems 1722 01:20:19,884 --> 01:20:21,955 and why is that important. 1723 01:20:21,989 --> 01:20:27,029 And, you know, the problems are many. 1724 01:20:27,063 --> 01:20:29,859 We're working hard to understand them. 1725 01:20:29,894 --> 01:20:32,620 And the importance is that our food system 1726 01:20:32,655 --> 01:20:37,349 is dependent upon their role as pollinators. 1727 01:20:37,384 --> 01:20:38,868 One of every three bites of food 1728 01:20:38,903 --> 01:20:40,836 is a result of insect pollination, 1729 01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:43,977 and that's something we don't want to give up. 1730 01:20:44,011 --> 01:20:47,359 -We ourselves have become users,consumers of pesticide. 1731 01:20:47,394 --> 01:20:50,086 You can see that very easily when you go to Walmart, 1732 01:20:50,121 --> 01:20:52,778 or you go to Lowe's, you go to Home Depot, 1733 01:20:52,813 --> 01:20:55,160 and the shelves are lined with pesticides, 1734 01:20:55,195 --> 01:20:56,817 and particularly herbicides. 1735 01:20:56,852 --> 01:20:59,199 You know, you think, well, herbicides aren't toxic, 1736 01:20:59,233 --> 01:21:02,064 but herbicides are completely, in many places, 1737 01:21:02,098 --> 01:21:05,653 eliminating the forage that bees require. 1738 01:21:05,688 --> 01:21:07,172 Bees require flowers. 1739 01:21:07,207 --> 01:21:10,589 They require nectar and pollen-producing flowers. 1740 01:21:10,624 --> 01:21:12,695 And this widespread use of herbicide, 1741 01:21:12,729 --> 01:21:16,043 not only in agriculture but also by homeowners... 1742 01:21:16,078 --> 01:21:18,356 Everybody wants a magnificent green lawn 1743 01:21:18,390 --> 01:21:21,980 without a single dandelion or clover plant in that lawn 1744 01:21:22,015 --> 01:21:24,534 or a blooming flower in that lawn. 1745 01:21:24,569 --> 01:21:27,399 That's a food desert for bees. 1746 01:21:27,434 --> 01:21:28,987 If you want a green lawn, great. 1747 01:21:29,022 --> 01:21:30,816 You know, let your front yard be green 1748 01:21:30,851 --> 01:21:34,441 and allow the backyard to have some dandelions and clover 1749 01:21:34,475 --> 01:21:37,789 and grow a pollinator garden. 1750 01:21:37,823 --> 01:21:40,309 Herbicides, fungicides and insecticides -- 1751 01:21:40,343 --> 01:21:41,897 all three of those categories 1752 01:21:41,931 --> 01:21:43,933 are problematic for our bees. 1753 01:21:43,968 --> 01:21:45,624 And, again, it's not just honey bees. 1754 01:21:45,659 --> 01:21:50,388 It's all of our bee species. 1755 01:21:50,422 --> 01:21:54,357 -So, consumers may be curious as to how they can figure out 1756 01:21:54,392 --> 01:21:58,568 whether a pesticide product may hurt bees or not, 1757 01:21:58,603 --> 01:22:03,056 and I would avoid anything systemic. 1758 01:22:03,090 --> 01:22:05,955 You could also avoid pesticides altogether. [ Laughs ] 1759 01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:07,923 That's probably the best way. 1760 01:22:07,957 --> 01:22:11,098 There may be situations where you find it really important, 1761 01:22:11,133 --> 01:22:13,998 that you have a particular tree that you want to save, 1762 01:22:14,032 --> 01:22:16,241 in which case, using pesticides 1763 01:22:16,276 --> 01:22:19,658 that are approved for use in organic systems 1764 01:22:19,693 --> 01:22:22,868 are generally much less toxic, 1765 01:22:22,903 --> 01:22:25,423 and they won't be as persistent,for sure, 1766 01:22:25,457 --> 01:22:29,116 as the conventional pesticides. 1767 01:22:29,151 --> 01:22:32,257 -The dream of having agriculturewithout pesticides 1768 01:22:32,292 --> 01:22:36,710 is not a completely unrealistic dream. 1769 01:22:36,744 --> 01:22:38,263 But it means that science 1770 01:22:38,298 --> 01:22:42,888 would have to understand the complexity of biology 1771 01:22:42,923 --> 01:22:45,581 far more than we do now. 1772 01:22:45,615 --> 01:22:47,169 What the field of chemical ecology 1773 01:22:47,203 --> 01:22:51,794 tells us or gives us hope is that if we understand 1774 01:22:51,828 --> 01:22:54,762 the true complexities of the system, 1775 01:22:54,797 --> 01:22:57,248 we may be able to use those complexities 1776 01:22:57,282 --> 01:23:01,321 in a way that benefits us and is more sustainable 1777 01:23:01,355 --> 01:23:03,530 than if we try to come in 1778 01:23:03,564 --> 01:23:05,187 and overpower the system 1779 01:23:05,221 --> 01:23:10,019 with an external chemical that doesn't belong there. 1780 01:23:10,054 --> 01:23:13,505 -Beekeeping has changed a lot in the last 10 years. 1781 01:23:13,540 --> 01:23:15,024 In urban areas, in cities, 1782 01:23:15,059 --> 01:23:16,784 people keeping bees on rooftops, 1783 01:23:16,819 --> 01:23:20,029 keeping them on their balconies. 1784 01:23:20,064 --> 01:23:21,686 -It seems backwards to say 1785 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,343 honey bees do well in urban areas, 1786 01:23:23,377 --> 01:23:25,862 but there's not as much natural forage 1787 01:23:25,897 --> 01:23:28,486 as there used to be, so in cities, 1788 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,177 there's all these buffer zones, 1789 01:23:30,212 --> 01:23:32,628 and people like to plant colorful gardens, 1790 01:23:32,662 --> 01:23:36,321 so there is more natural forage. 1791 01:23:36,356 --> 01:23:39,462 -Research is helping us to better understand 1792 01:23:39,497 --> 01:23:41,257 what habitat we need to create, 1793 01:23:41,292 --> 01:23:44,605 and we're working right here with the USGS 1794 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,055 in order to better understand 1795 01:23:46,090 --> 01:23:48,609 which of these flowers the bees are using, 1796 01:23:48,644 --> 01:23:49,886 when they're using them 1797 01:23:49,921 --> 01:23:52,199 and what it's going to do for the hives, 1798 01:23:52,234 --> 01:23:56,031 and that is going to be used to generate better recipes 1799 01:23:56,065 --> 01:23:57,687 for pollinator habitat 1800 01:23:57,722 --> 01:24:01,484 and conservation initiatives and policy. 1801 01:24:01,519 --> 01:24:04,315 -I think the bees provide, you know, sort of this window 1802 01:24:04,349 --> 01:24:08,905 into the natural world that people are very excited about, 1803 01:24:08,940 --> 01:24:13,117 and they want to support this as best as they can. 1804 01:24:13,151 --> 01:24:15,119 And then that trickles down into, you know, 1805 01:24:15,153 --> 01:24:16,879 this renewed interest and understanding 1806 01:24:16,913 --> 01:24:19,088 where our food comes from. 1807 01:24:19,123 --> 01:24:21,056 -When I started this job, you know, 1808 01:24:21,090 --> 01:24:24,714 it was basically older men who were keeping bees, 1809 01:24:24,749 --> 01:24:27,096 even at the, you know, backyard level. 1810 01:24:27,131 --> 01:24:30,858 And they were desperate for more young people 1811 01:24:30,893 --> 01:24:33,137 to get into beekeeping. 1812 01:24:33,171 --> 01:24:34,621 They weren't so vocal about women, 1813 01:24:34,655 --> 01:24:37,002 about wanting to have women [chuckling] come in 1814 01:24:37,037 --> 01:24:40,351 to the beekeeping arena, but there are now. 1815 01:24:40,385 --> 01:24:42,042 And there are a lot of young people, 1816 01:24:42,077 --> 01:24:44,113 a lot of new people, and it's very interesting. 1817 01:24:44,148 --> 01:24:46,978 The older beekeepers are a bit flummoxed, 1818 01:24:47,012 --> 01:24:48,980 because they don't know how to deal 1819 01:24:49,014 --> 01:24:51,431 with all these young people with new ideas 1820 01:24:51,465 --> 01:24:54,019 and, you know, new approaches and the Internet 1821 01:24:54,054 --> 01:24:55,814 and where they're getting their information. 1822 01:24:55,849 --> 01:24:57,782 So it's been a very interesting 1823 01:24:57,816 --> 01:24:59,818 to see how things have changed. 1824 01:24:59,853 --> 01:25:03,753 -The success of what's happening with honey bees is education. 1825 01:25:03,788 --> 01:25:06,411 It's going out in your community 1826 01:25:06,446 --> 01:25:09,207 and talking to people about bees, about farming, 1827 01:25:09,242 --> 01:25:11,382 bringing a beehive to your child's school. 1828 01:25:11,416 --> 01:25:13,038 You're seeing more female beekeepers. 1829 01:25:13,073 --> 01:25:14,419 You're seeing younger beekeepers. 1830 01:25:14,454 --> 01:25:16,559 You're seeing kids taking the beekeeping course 1831 01:25:16,594 --> 01:25:18,596 'cause they read about the bees or they're learned, 1832 01:25:18,630 --> 01:25:19,769 and they want to help. 1833 01:25:19,804 --> 01:25:21,633 They want to be a beekeeper. 1834 01:25:21,668 --> 01:25:23,256 -The U.S. beekeeping industry 1835 01:25:23,290 --> 01:25:25,430 and the U.S. production agriculture, I think, 1836 01:25:25,465 --> 01:25:27,225 would not have survived the last 10 years 1837 01:25:27,260 --> 01:25:29,503 if it hadn't been for the hard work of beekeepers. 1838 01:25:29,538 --> 01:25:31,298 Just dedicated to beekeeping 1839 01:25:31,333 --> 01:25:33,162 and replacing dead colonies and stuff. 1840 01:25:33,197 --> 01:25:34,853 And so that's all come at a cost to them, 1841 01:25:34,888 --> 01:25:37,925 usually personally, you know, in lost time 1842 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,272 and money and things like that, 1843 01:25:39,306 --> 01:25:41,032 And a lot of people don't recognize that. 1844 01:25:41,066 --> 01:25:43,966 So, I think the U.S. beekeepers have to be applauded 1845 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,727 for staying in there when the losses were so high, 1846 01:25:46,762 --> 01:25:47,935 otherwise they could have cut and run 1847 01:25:47,970 --> 01:25:49,316 and just gotten out of the business, 1848 01:25:49,351 --> 01:25:50,455 but they didn't. 1849 01:25:50,490 --> 01:25:52,457 They stayed in there, and most of them 1850 01:25:52,492 --> 01:25:54,321 have found ways to be a bit more productive. 1851 01:25:54,356 --> 01:25:57,600 Not as productive as they were in the past. 1852 01:25:57,635 --> 01:25:59,464 But we're still facing some uphill battles 1853 01:25:59,499 --> 01:26:01,535 in just trying to manage good bees 1854 01:26:01,570 --> 01:26:04,228 and keep them healthy. 1855 01:26:04,262 --> 01:26:08,749 -European Union-wide, there is a moratorium on use 1856 01:26:08,784 --> 01:26:13,029 of neonicotinoid insecticides on bee-attractive crops. 1857 01:26:13,064 --> 01:26:16,205 So any legislation like that that comes up, 1858 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,483 the average person can make a difference 1859 01:26:18,518 --> 01:26:20,382 by letting their legislator know 1860 01:26:20,416 --> 01:26:23,247 that they want them to help protect bees, 1861 01:26:23,281 --> 01:26:27,216 and that that is a really important concept 1862 01:26:27,251 --> 01:26:30,461 and is going to help them get reelected, perhaps, 1863 01:26:30,495 --> 01:26:34,913 if they do support bees. 1864 01:26:34,948 --> 01:26:36,467 -So, what can consumers do? 1865 01:26:36,501 --> 01:26:40,022 Consumers can be aware of where their food comes from. 1866 01:26:40,056 --> 01:26:43,508 Food is so available in this country and so cheap. 1867 01:26:43,543 --> 01:26:46,062 We really have very little appreciation 1868 01:26:46,097 --> 01:26:49,204 for what it takes to produce food. 1869 01:26:49,238 --> 01:26:51,654 -Our foundation, our history is built on agriculture 1870 01:26:51,689 --> 01:26:53,242 and family farms. 1871 01:26:53,277 --> 01:26:56,211 It's getting wiped out through big agriculture 1872 01:26:56,245 --> 01:26:58,454 and, you know, big chemical companies. 1873 01:26:58,489 --> 01:27:01,250 How do we bring a respect and a reverence back 1874 01:27:01,285 --> 01:27:04,529 for the foundation of what the country was built on 1875 01:27:04,564 --> 01:27:07,567 and how do we do that in a way that's sustainable, 1876 01:27:07,601 --> 01:27:11,156 that looks towards the future and future generations. 1877 01:27:11,191 --> 01:27:13,331 Putting beehives in cities where people can go up 1878 01:27:13,366 --> 01:27:15,713 and see agriculture for the first time -- 1879 01:27:15,747 --> 01:27:17,680 you know, a lot of them for the first time in their lives. 1880 01:27:17,715 --> 01:27:22,237 And to learn so much so quickly,it's the root 1881 01:27:22,271 --> 01:27:24,031 of what Bee Downtown is doing in cities, 1882 01:27:24,066 --> 01:27:27,276 is trying to just share education about it. 1883 01:27:27,311 --> 01:27:30,279 There are so many fantastic beekeepers across the country, 1884 01:27:30,314 --> 01:27:33,765 and if we can help tell their stories in cities, 1885 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,112 then it helps to bring back 1886 01:27:36,147 --> 01:27:38,045 a respect and an understanding 1887 01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:42,015 for how much work goes into agriculture. 1888 01:27:42,049 --> 01:27:45,087 -A really simple thing people can do is just 1889 01:27:45,121 --> 01:27:47,123 buy U.S. honey. 1890 01:27:47,158 --> 01:27:49,747 It's cheaper to buy some of the foreign honeys, 1891 01:27:49,781 --> 01:27:52,888 but to keep the bee industry alive and healthy, 1892 01:27:52,922 --> 01:27:56,616 one of the things we need to do is just buy U.S. honey. 1893 01:27:56,650 --> 01:27:59,964 If you know the beekeeper, go directly to him. 1894 01:27:59,998 --> 01:28:03,519 If you're in a larger urban areaand you don't have that luxury, 1895 01:28:03,554 --> 01:28:05,970 you know, source it and check the jar 1896 01:28:06,004 --> 01:28:09,318 to make sure it says it's a product of USA. 1897 01:28:09,353 --> 01:28:13,322 If honey is a viable alternative, 1898 01:28:13,357 --> 01:28:15,876 we can keep the bees on flowers more. 1899 01:28:15,911 --> 01:28:19,294 -You know, supporting local foods and local farmers 1900 01:28:19,328 --> 01:28:21,157 is, again, a great way 1901 01:28:21,192 --> 01:28:23,988 to better connect with your community, 1902 01:28:24,022 --> 01:28:25,645 better sort of see what's going on, 1903 01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:29,131 you know, in your backyard, as it were, 1904 01:28:29,165 --> 01:28:33,169 and understand where your food is coming from. 1905 01:28:33,204 --> 01:28:34,999 -Also, as consumers, 1906 01:28:35,033 --> 01:28:39,486 accept more blemishes 1907 01:28:39,521 --> 01:28:40,832 on our apples. 1908 01:28:40,867 --> 01:28:42,317 We can say it's okay. 1909 01:28:42,351 --> 01:28:45,112 Right now, we want the perfect apple. 1910 01:28:45,147 --> 01:28:47,391 We want the perfect piece of fruit. 1911 01:28:47,425 --> 01:28:50,773 And what it takes to produce that perfect piece of fruit is 1912 01:28:50,808 --> 01:28:52,188 a lot of pesticide, 1913 01:28:52,223 --> 01:28:54,536 a lot of chemical pesticide. 1914 01:28:54,570 --> 01:28:58,609 The perfect apple is not the perfect apple. 1915 01:28:58,643 --> 01:29:02,406 -A better way for creating a sustainable agricultural system 1916 01:29:02,440 --> 01:29:06,306 is starting to come not from the regulatory agencies, 1917 01:29:06,341 --> 01:29:07,687 not from the top down, 1918 01:29:07,721 --> 01:29:09,136 but from the bottom up. 1919 01:29:09,171 --> 01:29:12,139 From the consumers demanding organic food, 1920 01:29:12,174 --> 01:29:13,382 from places like Costco 1921 01:29:13,417 --> 01:29:16,281 and Walmart providing organic food 1922 01:29:16,316 --> 01:29:17,593 because they're big enough 1923 01:29:17,628 --> 01:29:19,699 that they need contracts with growers. 1924 01:29:19,733 --> 01:29:23,944 They say "We need 500 acres of organic tomato sauce. 1925 01:29:23,979 --> 01:29:25,739 Can you do it?" 1926 01:29:25,774 --> 01:29:27,569 And then it's like 1927 01:29:27,603 --> 01:29:29,398 you're not swimming upstream anymore. 1928 01:29:29,433 --> 01:29:30,399 It's capitalism, 1929 01:29:30,434 --> 01:29:35,300 and you're using that economic driver 1930 01:29:35,335 --> 01:29:37,406 to change the farming system. 1931 01:29:37,441 --> 01:29:40,271 That's where the future is, in my opinion. 1932 01:29:40,305 --> 01:29:43,688 -We're seeing more people buying directly from farmers 1933 01:29:43,723 --> 01:29:45,000 in different ways, 1934 01:29:45,034 --> 01:29:46,829 through farm markets, through CSAs. 1935 01:29:46,864 --> 01:29:50,868 There's a whole food movement that is very exciting, 1936 01:29:50,902 --> 01:29:52,352 and a lot of young people 1937 01:29:52,387 --> 01:29:55,804 actually are very aware that there is a problem, 1938 01:29:55,838 --> 01:29:57,978 and they want to know where their food comes from. 1939 01:29:58,013 --> 01:30:00,049 They want to eat good, healthy food. 1940 01:30:00,084 --> 01:30:01,465 So, I am hopeful. 1941 01:30:01,499 --> 01:30:02,500 I am hopeful. 1942 01:30:02,535 --> 01:30:04,019 You know, it's like so many things -- 1943 01:30:04,053 --> 01:30:05,641 Things have to get really low. 1944 01:30:05,676 --> 01:30:08,333 Things have to get really bad before they get better, 1945 01:30:08,368 --> 01:30:11,923 and I hope we're as low as we're going to go. 1946 01:30:11,958 --> 01:30:13,131 -I mean, I see the future, 1947 01:30:13,166 --> 01:30:15,444 and it gets me so excited, you know? 1948 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,826 Not just the future in terms of bees, 1949 01:30:17,860 --> 01:30:22,175 but also it's so exciting to see these farmers 1950 01:30:22,209 --> 01:30:25,143 totally change what we think we know. 1951 01:30:25,178 --> 01:30:29,216 Challenge the system, you know. 1952 01:30:29,251 --> 01:30:31,874 -Paying attention to the natural world around us 1953 01:30:31,909 --> 01:30:35,533 and how it operates can be a lesson for us 1954 01:30:35,568 --> 01:30:41,159 in how to not only survive among fellow human beings, 1955 01:30:41,194 --> 01:30:44,508 but survive in synchrony with our environment. 1956 01:30:44,542 --> 01:30:45,923 -Bees are just one of those things 1957 01:30:45,957 --> 01:30:48,960 that benefit all the way around. 1958 01:30:48,995 --> 01:30:51,756 You know, you can see it if you watch it. 1959 01:30:51,791 --> 01:30:54,000 And then you can see it quantified 1960 01:30:54,034 --> 01:30:55,346 when scientists watch it. 1961 01:30:55,380 --> 01:30:57,382 I mean, we know bees are the right thing 1962 01:30:57,417 --> 01:30:59,074 to have on the landscape. 1963 01:30:59,108 --> 01:31:01,214 We know it's a win-win-win, 1964 01:31:01,248 --> 01:31:03,975 and we really get a nice pleasure out of it 1965 01:31:04,010 --> 01:31:06,495 when other people realize it, too. 1966 01:31:06,530 --> 01:31:08,463 -I don't care how many of these little, 1967 01:31:08,497 --> 01:31:11,293 you know, whack-a-moles that you knock down. 1968 01:31:11,327 --> 01:31:15,021 Your arm is going to get tired 1969 01:31:15,055 --> 01:31:17,506 before you solve the bee problem. 1970 01:31:17,541 --> 01:31:19,819 You need to focus back on reinventing 1971 01:31:19,853 --> 01:31:23,788 how we produce our food to begin with. 1972 01:31:23,823 --> 01:31:26,722 Then suddenly neonics aren't an issue anymore. 1973 01:31:26,757 --> 01:31:28,759 You just don't need it. 1974 01:31:28,793 --> 01:31:32,694 You don't need all the glyphosate anymore. 1975 01:31:32,728 --> 01:31:34,040 And... 1976 01:31:34,074 --> 01:31:35,248 yeah. 1977 01:31:35,282 --> 01:31:37,975 And we have healthy kids again. 1978 01:31:38,009 --> 01:31:40,564 We have healthy bees. 1979 01:31:40,598 --> 01:31:44,637 ♪♪ 1980 01:32:24,677 --> 01:32:28,612 ♪♪ 154581

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