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Your client is incapacitated

and in need of legal protection.

If you don't put
someone forward, the court will.

It should be me. I'll do it.

We just put
a giant target on your back.

That's... an offer.

Associate position after graduation.

Highest starting salary in the city.

- Think it over.
- I think I messed up.

That girl from the van,

I kind of took her back to my place

and finished the interview there.

And she was so close to talking.

She called someone when I was out,

and they just... took off.

So, they think Helen fell
asleep at the wheel.

They found medication on
her that causes drowsiness.

Does it say anything
about the second car?

- What?
- Helen's driving down the road,

a second car cuts her off.

Second car re-corrects,

and makes the scrub mark, drives away.

Her car veers that way
into the ditch and rolls.

I need you to understand
how serious this is, Kip.

I just thought if I do one job,

I'll have enough
money for my own place.

I love you, and I would like

to argue with you,
for the rest of our lives,

if you'll let me.

Joanna Chang, will you marry me?

Joanna Chang, we have
a warrant for your arrest.

Everything OK?

I have to go.

Come on, pick up.

Pick up. Pick up. Pick up. Pick up.

Hey. Don't worry, Cass.

Everything is going to be fine.

Your mother is
one of the toughest people

I have ever met in my life.

Is something funny?

I don't understand.
What is the charge?!

Why won't you say anything?

You think there are no
consequences for your actions,

but I can't imagine the devastation

you've left in your wake.

- Where is she?
- She's in the holding cell.

- Are you serious?
- I'm sorry, I can't.

It's not our show.

I didn't know, Billy.

I lent the feds a couple of cops

to carry out a warrant, I had no idea.

Look,
I'll find out what I can, sit tight.

- Owen!
- I know, it's gonna be all right.

Don't worry.

It's always worse in your imagination.

Yeah, I don't have an imagination.

In your head,
that thing you're picturing

is worse than what's
actually gonna happen.

I have 15 years experience

in the legal justice system.

I think I know how bad it can get.

There's nothing you can do.
Get some sleep or something.

My daughter's gonna wake
up soon. I need to get home.

You have a baby?

Did you tell the cops that?

Maybe they'll let you go.

I'm a lawyer.
This is a misunderstanding.

Well, in my 15 years of experience

in the legal system,

when someone says
it's a misunderstanding,

it usually isn't.

- I need to clear this up.
- Mm-hmm.

GUARD!

This is her partner.

She's just stepped away
from her phone for a minute.

Dr. Morrison would like to speak

to Helen Graham's guardian,

in person as soon as possible.

You know, now is not really...

He's at the... West End Clinic.

Yep. She will do her best.

OK...

Hey, it's me.
Look, everything is fine.

- I just need you to...
- Joanna's been arrested.

- Right.
- I'm already on my way.

Billy, what happened? Is she OK?

She's... she's fine.

We'll talk about it when you get here.

I just...

I need you to do something
for me first.

Anything we say here is on the record.

It is being recorded, and may

be used against you in a trial.

If you could just tell me

what the charges are, I'm sure
that I could clear this all up.

I wanna make sure that you are
aware of your right to counsel.

Why won't you answer me?

And that you are sitting here
of your own volition.

Fine.

I would like to make sure
that you are aware,

that I have more education
and legal experience

than your entire department combined.

I am not here of my own volition.

I was sitting in my house,
with my family,

of my own volition.

I am sitting here now

because you raided my house

in the middle of the night

like it was a drug lab
and ripped me away

from my five-month-old baby.

The phrasing
that you were supposed to use...

Is am I speaking to you
of my own volition.

And the answer to that is...

Yes.

You wanna ask me something?
Then open your mouth

and ask me directly.

I wasn't headed anywhere.

Are you sure about that?

I was sitting in my living room!

You know that's not what I meant.

- No, I don't.
- Are you finished?

If you would just tell me
why I have been arrested,

I am sure I could be of more help.

How long have you worked
at Crawford Chang L.L.P.?

What is your problem?!

It's my daughter's nighttime feeding.

- You are wasting my time!
- Ms. Chang!

Look, I know this is difficult,

but I need you to
realize this is serious.

So if you need me to contact someone

to ensure that your
daughter is taken care of

for the time that you're in custody,

I can make that happen.

But make no mistake:
you're not going anywhere

for the foreseeable future.

And the best thing you can do
is answer my questions.

Unless, of course, there's
something you're hiding.

No. There isn't.

Let's just get this done
as quickly as possible.

I've been at
Crawford Chang for two years.

Before that,
I was a partner at Stepman Livery,

and previously, I was in Toronto

at Carver Thatcher Stokes.

Tell me more about your time
at Carver Thatcher Stokes.

What do you wanna know?

Hey, we need to find...

- Chief?
- Billy.

- She's talking.
- What?!

- Uh... Here, take Cassidy.
- Uh...

Take this human?

You're all over the map here.

I don't know
what my travel history and CTS

- have to do...
- You're avoiding the question.

I am not avoiding the question.

This is not your jurisdiction.
You need to wait outside.

- Excuse me, Mr.?
- Cassidy.

- Officer Cassidy.
- Oh.

OK. Well, Officer Cassidy,

I'm an attorney.

Ms. Chang has waived
her right to counsel.

Ms. Chang made a bad decision.

What she should do now is
reassert her right to counsel

and say nothing
until she speaks to someone.

I reassert my right to counsel.

Thank you. If you'd excuse us, please.

I hope you remember this moment,

when it all goes to hell.

Hey.

Billy, something's wrong here.
I don't know what's going on.

It's OK. It's gonna be OK.

- I didn't do anything.
- I know you didn't.

We are gonna figure this out.
It will all be fine.

We have to change Cassidy's name.

Yeah, I figured.

I can't believe I talked, that's 101.

They don't teach getting
arrested in law school.

You're under pressure.

It's no excuse.

Did you say anything?

I don't know! I don't
even know why I'm in here!

It's OK. We're gonna find out.

As my lawyer, what's our next step?

I'm not gonna be your lawyer.

- What?
- I have someone else in mind.

Someone better suited for this.

So, um...

Heh.

What are you in here for?

Aggravated assault.

Oh! Uh...

Well, I am...

Sure it will all work itself out.

- Luna!
- Hey.

- It's gonna be OK.
- I know.

Thank you.

- I was so...
- I know.

I'm OK.

I knew you wouldn't leave me in there,

so I hope you know,

I'm not gonna leave you in here either.

OK?

OK.

So sweet.

Why are you allowed back here?

I'm part of your new legal team.

- Do we really need...
- No.

Are you gonna listen to me?

- Yes.
- Mm-mm. I need more than that.

I'm not gonna be your instrument.

If I'm gonna represent you,

I need to know that
you're gonna do what I say.

- Yes.
- Then I think this should work out.

Very well. Can we get back...

What are you still doing here?

Ahem!

I'm sorry Joanna.

- Why?
- You've pissed someone off.

They wanna come down hard on you.

Yeah, but I didn't do anything.

Not according to the Crown.

The charge is securities fraud.

That doesn't make any sense.

And they're gonna push for the maximum

custodial sentence.

What's the full sentence?

14 years in jail.

They found plane tickets,

to an unspecified non-extradition
country in your name.

- You going on vacation?
- We weren't going anywhere.

They're setting me up.

Any enemies of note?

We don't keep a list.

But... yes.

This is serious.

The tickets are evidence
of an intention to flee,

and they want bail to be revoked.

What?!

I'll look into the plane tickets.

No time to waste.

Then you better let go.

It's gonna be fine.

- Luna, hey.
- Hey!

Oh, how is it with, uh...

Yeah, it's gonna be fine...

probably. How are you?

Uh, yeah. Yeah, it's OK.

Matheson.

To think I could've
inherited a steel mill.

See you.

BOLO's out on the boyfriend's car,

we just need to track her down.

How's Luna doing with Joanna?

Fine, probably.

I'm telling you, Dee will talk.
We just need to find her.

Any luck with the others?

Stay on the boyfriend.

Ride the radio, we need names.

OK. What about Dee?

She's the only one
who looked like she might roll.

Dee's one woman.
It's bigger than that.

Stay on the boyfriend.
Keep me in the loop.

Where are you going?

A... personal thing, at home.

- I'll be on my phone.
- What personal thing?

It's personal.

Oh, great. Thanks.

With two hours to spare
before her bail hearing.

What do you know
about Northwood Forest Inc.

Uh... It was a...

A deal that I worked on with my father,

years ago at CTS, it all crumbled.

- Was it all above board?
- I don't remember.

Probably yes. What does it matter?

It matters if I'm defending
you from being set up or...

She's being set up.

By who?

I mean, CTS would only be
shooting themselves in the foot.

Who would have
information about this case

and would actually do that?

- The mine.
- The mine?

Elise Mills was a junior associate

so she would've
been privy to all of the

internal back and forths.

So when I asked you about enemies,

you don't think you
might've mentioned this?

I can't do my job if I don't
know who I'm fighting.

- Where are you going?
- To make some calls.

I gotta get my researchers on this.

Anything else I should know about?

No, there is nothing else.

Researchers?

Ammuniton...

You just gonna sulk
for the rest of time?

He's throwing her life away.

He's trying to catch the bigger fish.

That's his job.

Our job is to protect people.

Our job is to not get
personally involved with victims

so it doesn't distort
our objective lens.

You got too close.

You should be mad at yourself, not him.

I wasn't. I was just
trying to help her.

Do yourself a favour.
Don't dig in deeper.

Do your job, and we'll find her.

I swear, I'm not just some mark.

She wanted out. I saw it in her eyes.

And then as soon
as I walk out the door...

- She calls them.
- She's an addict.

He was terrifying.

I just, I don't understand

why she would go back to him.

Addiction turns you upside down.

Trust me.

I bet she did want out.

But the part of her that wanted out

wasn't the part that
called her boyfriend.

Were you?

My mom.

Matheson, Thorpe.

Matheson here, go ahead.

Yeah, a hit came in on your blue sedan.

Queen's cowboys tagged it at a motel

off Highway 9 near Clandeboye.

- I'm sending the address.
- OK. We'll be right there.

I... I didn't...

You gonna email out some r�sum�s?

Just take it.

- It's not like that.
- Take it, Kip!

- I don't want it!
- Well then, what do you want?

He won't give it back to me
unless I pay him!

Fine, I'll bite.

Pay who for what?

There was no force.

There was presumed force.

The intimidation used was commensurate

to executing a warrant
against a drug lord.

Presumed force isn't a real thing.

But I would trust Mr. Page to know

what drug dealers go through

as he's represented many of them.

Violence isn't required
to put undue stress on my client

who is, in fact, an attorney.

- It's mental warfare.
- I object.

We're in chambers, no need to object.

I'm aware, Your Honour.

I meant I personally object to him.

They showed up in force
in the middle of the night,

took her into custody
without explanation,

and refused to tell her what
she was being charged with,

until hours before this hearing.

An incredible amount of hardship,
for a new mother,

who is still breastfeeding,
I might add.

The defendant's parental status

does not allow her to break the law.

Did I miss the trial?

- Your Honour, may I...
- When I'm done!

The alleged crimes were
perpetrated seven years ago,

and the defendant was cleared
in the initial investigation.

And they were overseen
by another more senior lawyer,

David Hanley, now deceased.

Why shouldn't I give bail?

Your Honour,
new evidence has come to light,

and since the defendant
was captured mid-flight...

Mid-flight?!
She was reading to her child!

The plane tickets to the Maldives,

which has no extradition treaty,

necessitated the tactical arrest.

And Ms. Chang could be
facing up to 14 years.

What mother wouldn't be tempted to run?

We good?

- Your Honour, when we...
- I would like to speak.

I don't think
that's a good idea right now.

I, um...

I would like to correct the record.

I am, uh...

I'm not breastfeeding.

I was but I couldn't do it, so,

we are raising her on formula,

a charge that my ex-mother's
group would happily

have you add to the pile. This?

These charges?

Heh, this is ridiculous.

The only person who would've had access

to this "new evidence",

is the attorney that I am

currently fighting in a civil case.

The Crown is allowing themselves

to be a pawn in a trial where a
multi-billion dollar corporation

is looking to run over
a single individual.

And you, should you go along with this?

You are allowing
the legal justice system

to be used as a loophole for the rich!

Ahem! Your Honour, we have

evidence regarding the plane tickets.

The tickets were never purchased.

Payment was being withheld because...

Whoever tried to buy them,
didn't have the passport numbers,

needed to finalize the sale.

I mean, this would've been
very difficult as the child

doesn't have a passport yet.

I... I apologize, your Honour.

But I assure you,

the new evidence
that has come to light,

is very compelling.

I'm ready to make my ruling.

But I would like to add...

One thing before we close the record.

I don't need reminding
of what my duty is.

But perhaps you, Ms. Chang,
need to be reminded,

that the crimes of which
you are being accused,

are manipulating the
justice system for the rich.

Bail reluctantly granted.

I didn't realize
you wanted to go to jail.

I don't know what I was thinking.

I'm beginning to wonder
how you ever beat me.

Insulting the judge:

how is that an effective strategy?

You did what?

Well, thanks only to your sister,

who is a law student,
we dodged that bullet.

Maybe the judge'll forget
by the time we get to trial.

OK, look, I've got a summerhouse,

halfway to Winnipeg,
we'll be working out of there.

For now,
Luna and I have a lot to dig into.

I'm not gonna tell you to sit still

because I'm scared
of what might happen,

but please...

Refrain from doing anything

that's gonna make my job harder.

I get it.

Hi... Oh, hi!

I don't wanna pile on...

But?

The hospital called.

They wanna talk to you about Helen.

It sounded important.

OK.

I have to refill the diaper bag.

I'll meet you there?

Do you want her?

Um, maybe it's better if you take her.

Oh!

It's OK. It's OK.

It's OK.

From the beginning and remember,

people lie to me all day long.

Kookum died in March... or February,

I don't really...

My only family left was some guy

my dad's sister married,
before she died.

Uncle Terry.

You know...

So everything went to him,

all of her stuff.

Me, everything.

He sold off most of it,

but then he tried to sell
my dad's watch, and I just...

Well, it's just a watch, Kip.

I know it's a watch, OK?

I'm saying it's a watch.

Just...

Keep talking.

Kookum gave it to my dad,

and he was supposed
to give it to me. OK?

It was our thing, the three of us.

You don't own it, you just look
after it for the next person.

She said it broke her heart
that he wasn't around...

But that she would give
it to me when I graduated.

It's the only thing left of him.

It's dumb.

Whatever, it doesn't matter.

Some dumb watch isn't gonna
change any of this.

Hey, what's up? I missed your calls.

I needed you to watch the baby.

- Well, I'm happy to.
- 14 hours ago.

It was the middle of the
night. I didn't have my phone on.

Things don't happen
on a schedule, Hank,

or did you skip that chapter
in your audiobook?

Everything all right, Billy boy?

Hey! I-I get it, man!

You get it?!

Look, you wanna be in this kid's life?

It's easy.

Be here when I need you.

You don't get to pop in and out
when it's convenient.

Hey...

I'm really trying here.

Trying to do what, exactly?

I'm trying to be better.

Better? Just better?

- That should be easy.
- That's a little unfair.

I'll leave my phone on at night, OK?

- Is that what you want me to say?
- It's not about the phone,

- Hank!
- All right! Billy!

Hey!

Sorry. Daddy had a day.

- Hey. Come on in.
- Hey.

Oh, don't worry about your shoes.

The kids do worse than you ever could.

OK.

It's a... nice place.

My family loves it.

- You don't?
- I would...

- If I wasn't always working.
- Heh.

This is everything they've released

from the previous investigation.

Oh, good!

Work.

The Crown said they'd send over
the full charging documents

by end of day.

I'm holding my breath,
for this new evidence.

It's make or break.

This is a...

An unusual situation here.

I mean, you're not even a real lawyer.

- This is your sister's case.
- I know that.

I appreciate the nerve.

It shows character.

But if you're gonna be effective,
for me,

to help get your sister off...

You mean prove she's innocent.

I need to know you won't bring
your emotions into this.

Don't worry about me.

OK.

Hello. Joanna Chang?

I won't waste your time.

I know what you must be going through.

The surgery went well.

She's in stable condition.

So that's great.

- But?
- No buts.

That's the truth.

I would, however, like to explain,

exactly what that means,

set some realistic
expectations of recovery.

The majority of people who score

a three or four on the
Glasgow Coma Scale

within the first 24
hours of going under,

are likely to either
succumb to their injuries,

or remain in a vegetative state.

- She's never waking up?
- That's not certain.

But a full recovery would
be extremely unlikely.

There's a subdural hematoma forming.

We have her on diuretics

but if it doesn't dissipate, then...

Then what?

There comes a point
in cases of severe head injury

where we need to ask ourselves

what quality of life
our loved one would want.

Pull the plug.

We're not there yet.

We'll continue to monitor her

but for now, it's out of our hands.

Whose hands is it in?

Because I would like
to speak with them.

Think it over.

My assistant can let you
out when you're ready.

We can find another surgeon.

We can transfer her down to Winnipeg.

This is a good hospital.

Then why are they giving up on her?!

I should never have pushed
her to fight this case.

Helen wanted to fight.

Even you couldn't have convinced her

to do something she didn't want to do.

Joanna, this is no one's fault.

Can you get the baby home safely?

Sure. Why?

This is...

Someone's fault, all of it.

And I just need to get control of this.

Elise didn't run her off the road!

She took the gloves off!

It's our turn now.

That's the car.

It's empty.

I got a couple guys out front.

There's one in the van.

OK. Women coming out.

Three of them.

They're getting in the van.

Which room was that?

The second one, I think.

What are you doing?!

Dee wasn't with them.

Stick to the script!

We're on the boyfriend.

You shouldn't be going in there alone.

I'm just gonna keep watch,

just in case there are other women.

We need to follow the van.

- Matheson!
- I'll be careful.

Fine.

Hi. Excuse me. Sorry.

If there's something else
you want to talk about,

- we can set an appointment.
- No, it's not that.

It's, um...

I have a friend
who hasn't quite been herself

- since having a baby...
- Sorry to interrupt,

but unless this has to do
with a head injury,

I'm not the person to be talking to.

I could refer Joanna to
one of my colleagues...

No, it's not Joanna.

It's, um... this friend...

I don't think it's
postpartum depression.

It feels more...

Erratic, or severe?

Maybe your friend should
contact her OBGYN,

or find a therapist that specializes

in perinatal mood disorders.

But I have to go.

OK. Let's go.

What is wrong with you?

Did you seriously think you could

play those cards without
any consequences?

I'm only doing what you taught me.

I did not teach you this.

Sure you did, win at all costs.

I am going to hope,

and pray that you were
just trying to scare Helen...

- What?!
- But there is no way

that you didn't know exactly,

what you were doing when
you went after my daughter.

Your daughter?
Have you lost your mind?

Look, Joanna, if you don't like
how I play the game,

then maybe running away wasn't enough.

Maybe you shouldn't be a lawyer at all.

I forgot.

You're a new mother too.

My mother is a little overzealous.

The adoption's in a couple weeks.

Maybe.

When this is all over...

I want you to remember,

that you were the one,

who went personal.

And I'm the one who took
everything away from you.

It was Elise.

She didn't even deny it.

- Where's the baby?
- I put her down already.

And Helen too, she must have known.

- Did she say that?
- She didn't have to.

Helen's crash could've
been an accident.

We don't know anything yet.

Elise is coming after us.

We have to hit back hard.

- What are you talking
- I know what to go after.

- We just have to find something...
- Hold on!

Can you just stop for a second?

You know I love you.

Can we not talk about the proposal?

No, it's not that.,
I'm worried about you.

- For good reason! Which is...
- It's not the case.

- Ever since we've had Cassidy...
- We're not calling her that!

WILL YOU JUST LET ME TALK?

I'm worried you might be suffering

from some postpartum anxiety.

And I want you to know
that you are not in this alone.

Someone is trying to destroy our lives

and you are telling me
that this is in my head?

You are not acting like yourself,
and there are

very serious consequences
on the line right now.

Billy, why won't you help me

fight for our family?

I AM TRYING!

Joanna, where are you going?

I am not going down without a fight.

And if you aren't willing
to do what it takes,

THEN STAY OUT OF MY WAY!

You did well today.

You really came through.

Just some simple sleuthing.

I'm gonna ask you something.

Don't feel you need to answer.

Why won't you take the job?

I've never fought this hard
for a law student.

I'm starting to feel
like I'm being played.

You're not being played.

But right now,

let's just focus on Joanna's case, OK?

Let's talk about Joanna, then.

Uh, what about her?

She's amazing.

She's schooled you more than once.

She is an excellent lawyer.

Maybe one day,

you'll understand the full
scope of what that means.

I get it now.

Besides...

She's more than that.

She saved my life.

She chose me,

over her own father.

Joanna's my sister.

She's the reason I am who I am.

Well, give yourself some credit too.

Let yourself in!

Can you give me and Nevin a moment?

Just keep at it.

Maybe you'll find something new.

Ahem.

What do you have on Elise?

What do you mean?

At CTS, we had researchers too.

That's one of the benefits
of working at a large firm.

We called it opposition research,
but...

I know you went looking for dirt,

because that's exactly
what I would've done.

I'm going after Elise.

Hmm, I would love to hear more
about this strategy.

It might be better,
for you to stay at arm's length.

- What are you up to, Joanna?
- You are my lawyer.

I am legally entitled to know

- what you know.
- It's too early for this.

You're giving up our ace in the hole.

So you do have something.

OK, let me spell it out for you.

As my lawyer, you have
a duty to candour.

You are required to give me
any and all information

that might affect
my interests in this case.

Yeah. I went to law school too,

and I don't have to give you
material for blackmail.

I don't plan on committing
any crime, blackmail included.

I hope you know what you're doing.

What do you have?

She had a DUI two years ago.

Her firm made it go away.

We think they came to an
understanding with the officer.

Enough to get her charged?

- If we had to.
- That'll work.

Send me everything you have,
I'm going to the police.

Work for what exactly?

A felon can't adopt a child.

Dee?

Terry.

- Kip get arrested?
- Kip's fine.

Where is he, then? He's late
on his part of the rent.

- He's not coming back.
- That right?

I'm here for his things.

He doesn't have things.

The watch.

I get it.

Sending in the goons.

- The watch.
- What watch?

Oh.

So how much for the other thing?

You're kidding, right?

You'll have to do better
than the government,

what they give me for the kid.

I'm trying to give Kip a life.

One that I'm sure you never had.

So I wanna be clear
about what I'm buying.

You never seeing Kip again.

This is your goodbye.

And if I find out,

you've been trying to get
anything else from him,

I won't be coming back with money.

You think I'm some
piece of gutter trash.

That right?

I'm sorry the world let you down.

Don't take it out on Kip.

Did you find her?

At least tell me you found something.

Was it worth it?

Joanna!

Nevin told you.

Why are you making this so hard?

- Joanna...
- This is the only way,

that she'll know what she's done!

You're not thinking clearly!

I am not crazy, Billy!

Stop making me feel like I'm crazy!

I'm sorry! You are not crazy.

And I...

I have handled this
whole thing wrong...

From the start.

You're right.

Our life is under attack.

You did get arrested.

And if we can't get
you off these charges,

then I don't even wanna think
about what that means,

but this is not right.

Elise can't get away with this.

I know, but you can't unring this bell.

You go through with this,

she gets exactly what she wants.

She wants the old Joanna.

If I can't even protect our baby...

You can!

But you're not that Joanna anymore.

I'm not convinced
you ever actually were.

If you wanna fight, then let's fight.

God knows you're good at it.

But I need you to know
you're more than that.

There are people in your
life who look up to you:

Luna, me, our impossible to name child.

Let's not do
what your father would've done.

Or Elise.

Let's do it our way.

So you're saying I shouldn't do this?

This is no time for jokes, Chang.

Our life is on trial.

I'm not gonna let them take
her away from me.

Me neither.

We should probably check in
on Nevin and Luna.

- I'm sure they found something.
- OK.

Billy, why would you propose to me?

We agreed we weren't gonna get married.

Uh...

I don't know.

I guess I just thought some...

Big grand gesture would
make us all feel better.

I know.

I'm an idiot.

I haven't been feeling
entirely myself either.

OK.

You are an idiot. I accept that.

- Where's the baby?
- With Hank.

He said he was gonna
teach her to count cards.

I'm almost sure he was joking.

Courier got turned around.

It's the evidence.

It's an internal memo
from CTS written by Joanna.

"The CEO of Northwood
Forest Inc. appears to be

"engaging in a course
of conduct which..."

"Reasonably perpetuates fraud"

"in order to inflate their assets."

"If we push the opinion through"

"that this is a sound investment,"

"we are liable in the
perpetuating of said f..."

"Fraud."

So what does this mean?

Well, you read it.

What do you think it means?

I need you to say it, please.

It means they have her dead to rights.

That's not what that means.

Why won't you say it?

It's not my place to pass judgment

- on whether or not...
- She knew about the fraud.

That means she's guilty.

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