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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,345 --> 00:00:09,345 www.titlovi.com 2 00:00:12,345 --> 00:00:14,848 Check, check, one, two, check. 3 00:00:14,931 --> 00:00:16,433 Check, one, two. 4 00:00:18,518 --> 00:00:20,437 Check, check, one, two. 5 00:00:22,313 --> 00:00:24,607 One, two. 6 00:00:25,775 --> 00:00:29,529 Hello, one, two, yeah, check, check, check. 7 00:00:29,612 --> 00:00:32,782 Playing to an audience is like, 8 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,201 it's some kind of other dimension. 9 00:00:37,537 --> 00:00:39,914 You live for those moments on stage 10 00:00:39,998 --> 00:00:43,877 and you live for that connection to other people 11 00:00:44,961 --> 00:00:45,712 that are like you. 12 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:51,259 Rock and roll is the opportunity to scream at the world, 13 00:00:51,342 --> 00:00:52,886 I am here, I exist. 14 00:00:55,472 --> 00:00:58,558 Music is the most powerful thing in the universe 15 00:00:58,641 --> 00:01:01,895 and if people don't believe it, they're crazy. 16 00:01:03,563 --> 00:01:05,774 From the time I get on stage, 17 00:01:05,857 --> 00:01:09,986 every once in awhile, it's magic that hits me. 18 00:01:16,659 --> 00:01:18,745 * Ah, yeah, yeah * 19 00:01:18,828 --> 00:01:21,831 Rock and roll, it gives you the power, 20 00:01:21,915 --> 00:01:23,500 you know, the force. 21 00:01:23,583 --> 00:01:25,502 That wonderful adrenaline rush. 22 00:01:35,553 --> 00:01:38,264 There's only one reason we do that shit. 23 00:01:38,348 --> 00:01:40,099 'Cause you fucking love it. 24 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:03,665 All of the biggest bands in the world, 25 00:02:03,748 --> 00:02:05,124 they had to start somewhere. 26 00:02:06,626 --> 00:02:09,254 Everybody I know started out like this, in a van. 27 00:02:11,798 --> 00:02:14,467 Yeah. 28 00:02:14,551 --> 00:02:15,969 You know, you're crammed 29 00:02:16,052 --> 00:02:17,345 in there together for months 30 00:02:17,428 --> 00:02:20,306 and it can be totally fucking disgusting 31 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:23,393 and absolutely beautiful all at once. 32 00:02:24,769 --> 00:02:26,688 And what happens in the van is the foundation 33 00:02:26,771 --> 00:02:28,022 of who we become. 34 00:02:28,106 --> 00:02:30,024 When are we gonna eat again? We're gonna eat 35 00:02:30,108 --> 00:02:33,736 some clown meat tonight. Clown meat. 36 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:36,072 And it creates this unique perspective 37 00:02:36,155 --> 00:02:37,407 that we all share. 38 00:02:37,490 --> 00:02:39,325 So yeah, this is the van. 39 00:02:39,409 --> 00:02:40,243 It's cool. 40 00:02:40,326 --> 00:02:41,995 It's not very comfortable, 41 00:02:42,078 --> 00:02:43,913 but you make it work. 42 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:47,208 Personally, I don't think that I'd still be here 43 00:02:47,292 --> 00:02:50,587 if it weren't for those early experiences 44 00:02:50,670 --> 00:02:53,673 touring in the van, touring with my friends. 45 00:02:53,756 --> 00:02:57,510 If it weren't for that old van, I don't where I'd be. 46 00:02:57,594 --> 00:02:58,678 Remember the red van that we had 47 00:02:58,761 --> 00:03:01,556 that we sold to Brain Brown? Yeah. 48 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,182 Mm-hmm, that was your first van. 49 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:06,185 That was my first van. Where's it now? 50 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,230 Guess what? 51 00:03:09,314 --> 00:03:10,481 I got it back. 52 00:03:21,993 --> 00:03:23,369 I gotta be honest. 53 00:03:23,453 --> 00:03:24,287 This van 54 00:03:25,872 --> 00:03:27,665 has stood the test of time. 55 00:03:31,210 --> 00:03:33,880 It was brand spanking new when we got it. 56 00:03:35,465 --> 00:03:36,716 And every time I take a right I feel like 57 00:03:36,799 --> 00:03:39,135 I'm gonna fall out the door. 58 00:03:39,218 --> 00:03:41,971 It didn't used to be like that. 59 00:03:53,816 --> 00:03:56,402 Okay, so I'm making a movie about van touring. 60 00:03:56,486 --> 00:03:57,904 Yeah. 61 00:03:57,987 --> 00:04:00,782 And its importance in spreading music around 62 00:04:00,865 --> 00:04:02,492 either the country or the world, 63 00:04:02,575 --> 00:04:03,660 right? The world. Yeah. 64 00:04:03,743 --> 00:04:05,078 It almost pollinates. 65 00:04:05,161 --> 00:04:06,496 It's like cross-pollination. 66 00:04:06,579 --> 00:04:10,249 Everyone we've talked to basically has the same story. 67 00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:11,084 The van stories. 68 00:04:11,167 --> 00:04:12,835 People are like, 69 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:14,504 especially like these big musicians, 70 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:16,422 they're kind of proud that they toured- 71 00:04:16,506 --> 00:04:17,840 Absolutely, yeah. 72 00:04:17,924 --> 00:04:21,636 I just love that I could talk to Ringo about it, 73 00:04:21,719 --> 00:04:22,971 talk to you about it. 74 00:04:23,054 --> 00:04:24,973 talk to the drummer of Slayer about it. 75 00:04:25,056 --> 00:04:25,932 Yes. Talk to Ian 76 00:04:26,015 --> 00:04:27,433 Mackaye about it. 77 00:04:27,517 --> 00:04:30,853 And it seems like everybody has the same passion 78 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:32,689 and the same drive and whatever it takes. 79 00:04:32,772 --> 00:04:33,940 Okay. 80 00:04:34,023 --> 00:04:34,941 Can I just say one thing? Yeah. 81 00:04:35,024 --> 00:04:36,526 I realized I was thinking 82 00:04:36,609 --> 00:04:37,860 while I was driving over here going like 83 00:04:37,944 --> 00:04:39,278 what am I walking into? 84 00:04:39,362 --> 00:04:41,030 Oh, it's about van touring. 85 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:43,199 And so I was just revisiting all that. 86 00:04:43,282 --> 00:04:45,994 I realized I'd actually never toured in van. 87 00:04:46,077 --> 00:04:47,620 Okay. So can I go now? 88 00:04:47,704 --> 00:04:50,665 Yes. And cut. 89 00:04:50,748 --> 00:04:53,459 well, no, because it's funny when we started this 90 00:04:53,543 --> 00:04:56,462 I thought, well, there'll be a lot of great stories 91 00:04:56,546 --> 00:04:58,715 and people talking about the logistics of touring in a van 92 00:04:58,798 --> 00:05:01,843 and anecdotes about turning an a van and shit like that 93 00:05:01,926 --> 00:05:04,804 but then it sort of evolved into something bigger 94 00:05:04,887 --> 00:05:06,389 that's more about people. 95 00:05:06,472 --> 00:05:08,975 Why the fuck people leave everything behind 96 00:05:09,058 --> 00:05:13,062 and just sort of quit life and start playing music 97 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:14,564 and wandering around with their friends. 98 00:05:14,647 --> 00:05:17,358 So, but tell me your name and where you're from. 99 00:05:17,442 --> 00:05:20,153 My name is 100 00:05:20,236 --> 00:05:22,655 I'm Lars and I'm from Denmark. 101 00:05:22,739 --> 00:05:24,407 So say our names right now? 102 00:05:28,077 --> 00:05:30,204 I'm Slash from LA. 103 00:05:30,288 --> 00:05:32,498 Duff Mckagan, I'm from Seattle, Washington. 104 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:36,502 My name's Annie Clark and I'm from Dallas, Texas. 105 00:05:36,586 --> 00:05:39,255 My name is Ben Harper and I'm from Claremont, California. 106 00:05:39,338 --> 00:05:40,757 My name is Jennifer Precious Finch 107 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:42,842 and I am from Los Angeles, California. 108 00:05:42,925 --> 00:05:45,845 I am The Edge and I play guitar for a band called U2 109 00:05:45,928 --> 00:05:48,598 and I hail from a small village 110 00:05:48,681 --> 00:05:51,350 north of Dublin city in Ireland called Malahide. 111 00:05:51,434 --> 00:05:54,562 My name is Flea, I'm from Melbourne, Australia. 112 00:05:54,645 --> 00:05:55,855 Were you born in Melbourne? 113 00:05:55,938 --> 00:05:57,106 I was. 1962. 114 00:05:58,274 --> 00:06:00,401 D.H. Peligro from the band Dead Kennedy's 115 00:06:00,485 --> 00:06:02,445 and I'm born in St. Louis, Missouri. 116 00:06:02,528 --> 00:06:04,072 My name is Exene Cervenka. 117 00:06:04,155 --> 00:06:05,865 I'm from Illinois. 118 00:06:05,948 --> 00:06:07,867 I'm Brian Johnson as you well know. 119 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:10,119 And I'm from Dunston, which is just outside 120 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:12,622 of Newcastle in the northeast of England. 121 00:06:12,705 --> 00:06:13,873 My name is Kira. 122 00:06:13,956 --> 00:06:17,085 I'm from New Haven, Connecticut originally. 123 00:06:17,168 --> 00:06:18,544 My name is Tony Kanal. 124 00:06:19,545 --> 00:06:20,963 Where am I from? 125 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:22,423 I was born in London, England. 126 00:06:22,507 --> 00:06:23,633 Were you really? Yeah. 127 00:06:23,716 --> 00:06:25,051 Fuck, I didn't know that. Yeah. 128 00:06:25,134 --> 00:06:26,969 My name's Steven Tyler. 129 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:29,222 I'm from Maui, 130 00:06:29,305 --> 00:06:30,139 LA, 131 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:33,059 Laurel Canyon, 132 00:06:33,142 --> 00:06:35,144 Boston, New Hampshire, 133 00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:37,480 and every now and then the way out is here. 134 00:06:37,563 --> 00:06:39,232 I'm Isaiah, I play the bass. 135 00:06:39,315 --> 00:06:42,318 My name's Dee and I sing and play guitar. 136 00:06:42,401 --> 00:06:44,237 I'm Solomon and I play drums. 137 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,613 And what's the name of your band? 138 00:06:45,696 --> 00:06:47,824 Radkey. And where you from? 139 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:49,826 We're from St. Joseph, Missouri. 140 00:06:50,993 --> 00:06:51,911 Really? Yeah. 141 00:06:53,746 --> 00:06:54,497 Yeah. Yeah. 142 00:06:54,580 --> 00:06:55,456 What's that like? 143 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:57,083 It's not that awesome. 144 00:06:57,166 --> 00:06:58,584 * Kids these days * 145 00:06:58,668 --> 00:07:00,628 * They want it all * 146 00:07:00,711 --> 00:07:02,004 * They just trip * 147 00:07:02,088 --> 00:07:04,173 * Trip and fall * 148 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:05,341 We were home schooled, 149 00:07:05,424 --> 00:07:07,135 so there wasn't a lot to do 150 00:07:07,218 --> 00:07:09,345 besides listen to our dad's record collection 151 00:07:09,428 --> 00:07:10,805 and kind of hang out. 152 00:07:10,888 --> 00:07:12,515 And we just got kind of bored and were like all right, 153 00:07:12,598 --> 00:07:14,684 we can just kind of hang out and play music together 154 00:07:14,767 --> 00:07:16,519 and We had plenty of time to do that. 155 00:07:16,602 --> 00:07:18,938 And then pretty much get out of St. Joe. 156 00:07:19,021 --> 00:07:21,858 Like the rock was able to get us out of our city, 157 00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:23,276 which was great, you know. 158 00:07:23,359 --> 00:07:26,487 * If the world starts waking these kids up * 159 00:07:26,571 --> 00:07:29,699 * From their games and their dark black makeup * 160 00:07:29,782 --> 00:07:31,951 So when you're starting out as a young band, 161 00:07:32,034 --> 00:07:35,288 in what I imagine is a small town? 162 00:07:35,371 --> 00:07:37,165 It's actually bigger, it's kind of big. 163 00:07:37,248 --> 00:07:38,958 It's just kind of lame, man. It's weird. 164 00:07:39,041 --> 00:07:40,668 There's just no music scene, really. 165 00:07:40,751 --> 00:07:42,295 Like we had to play out of town 166 00:07:42,378 --> 00:07:44,839 because people didn't want to book us 167 00:07:44,922 --> 00:07:48,134 because they would say that we don't book rap groups, 168 00:07:48,217 --> 00:07:50,887 but we had a CD, so they never listened to the CD. 169 00:07:50,970 --> 00:07:52,346 So yeah, we just played outside it, 170 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:54,473 we played Kansas City, Kansas and all that stuff 171 00:07:54,557 --> 00:07:57,393 until at some point, someone booked us in St. Joe. 172 00:07:57,476 --> 00:08:00,146 * I just can't shake it * 173 00:08:00,229 --> 00:08:03,399 * I'm gonna take them away * 174 00:08:03,482 --> 00:08:05,151 So is your dad sort of like 175 00:08:05,234 --> 00:08:08,237 the tour manager/roadie/driver? 176 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:09,488 Yes. Yes. 177 00:08:09,572 --> 00:08:11,824 And yeah, Dad hooked us up with all the music 178 00:08:11,908 --> 00:08:15,369 we listened to, takes us out on the road, you know, 179 00:08:15,453 --> 00:08:16,996 takes care of us to this day. 180 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:18,539 It's really cool 181 00:08:18,623 --> 00:08:20,583 like there's not much of a change from being at home 182 00:08:20,666 --> 00:08:22,919 so we can stay on the road for a really long time. 183 00:08:23,002 --> 00:08:26,255 It's just crazy I've been doing this is for nine years. 184 00:08:26,339 --> 00:08:28,424 Yep. And we're still doing it. 185 00:08:29,967 --> 00:08:31,427 They told me that your kids are gonna start a band 186 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:34,597 and you can quit your shitty Walmart job 187 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:36,766 and be on the road touring with your favorite band 188 00:08:36,849 --> 00:08:38,100 for the rest of your life. 189 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:40,019 Be an amazing opportunity. 190 00:08:40,102 --> 00:08:41,354 It's just craziness. 191 00:08:45,483 --> 00:08:47,360 What's great about Radkey's story is 192 00:08:47,443 --> 00:08:50,446 that it's not that different from everyone I know. 193 00:08:51,614 --> 00:08:55,451 My parents decided move to Dublin 194 00:08:55,534 --> 00:08:58,996 when I was one to this little town called Malahide 195 00:09:00,373 --> 00:09:02,875 and that's where I grew up with my brother and my sister. 196 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:06,212 The one downside of living in the burbs 197 00:09:06,295 --> 00:09:10,132 outside of Dublin city was often not a lot going on. 198 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:13,427 So we would have to find other ways to amuse ourselves 199 00:09:13,511 --> 00:09:16,472 and that's when we got into explosives. 200 00:09:18,557 --> 00:09:20,726 And that was a kind of interesting phase. 201 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:22,895 We had a couple of summers 202 00:09:22,979 --> 00:09:24,230 having great fun blowing things up. 203 00:09:24,313 --> 00:09:26,774 You're gonna lose your global entry. 204 00:09:28,901 --> 00:09:29,986 This is probably true. 205 00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:31,320 I don't know if we'll use that part. 206 00:09:31,404 --> 00:09:32,989 Has U2 ever used pyro? 207 00:09:33,072 --> 00:09:34,156 I feel like you've never fucking used- 208 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,493 No, we got over that phase, you know, age 15. 209 00:09:38,828 --> 00:09:40,246 But you know, it's like, you know, 210 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:43,249 you're in this nice little town, but not a lot happening 211 00:09:43,332 --> 00:09:45,459 so things went horribly wrong 212 00:09:45,543 --> 00:09:46,669 when I discovered rock and roll. 213 00:09:48,004 --> 00:09:50,089 I was trying to remember what it was 214 00:09:50,172 --> 00:09:51,799 that got me interested in rock and roll 215 00:09:51,882 --> 00:09:54,760 and I think it was watching "A Hard Day's Night." 216 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,807 * It's been a hard day's night * 217 00:09:59,890 --> 00:10:03,311 * And I've been working like a dog * 218 00:10:03,394 --> 00:10:05,771 I just was like wow. 219 00:10:05,855 --> 00:10:07,273 You get to do that? 220 00:10:07,356 --> 00:10:09,817 That's amazing. I want to do that. 221 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:11,444 * But when I get home to you * 222 00:10:11,527 --> 00:10:13,195 * I'll find the things that you do * 223 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:17,033 * Will make me feel alright * 224 00:10:17,116 --> 00:10:20,119 * You know I feel all right * 225 00:10:20,202 --> 00:10:22,997 * You know I feel alright * 226 00:10:24,957 --> 00:10:27,001 It was just that time with the Beatles, 227 00:10:27,084 --> 00:10:29,879 the storms, everything was starting to happen. 228 00:10:29,962 --> 00:10:31,630 Nobody knew quite what was happening 229 00:10:31,714 --> 00:10:32,840 but it was like grunge. 230 00:10:32,923 --> 00:10:34,842 What the fuck's happened? 231 00:10:34,925 --> 00:10:35,801 What was that? 232 00:10:35,885 --> 00:10:38,179 At 15 I had to leave school 233 00:10:38,262 --> 00:10:40,473 and start an apprenticeship in a factory. 234 00:10:40,556 --> 00:10:43,142 There was 60 kids in this apprentice group 235 00:10:43,225 --> 00:10:45,186 and everybody was starting bands. 236 00:10:45,269 --> 00:10:47,563 "Brian, do you want to start a band?" 237 00:10:47,646 --> 00:10:50,900 And I said, "Yeah, I wanna be a drummer." 238 00:10:50,983 --> 00:10:53,402 I didn't like singing, I want to be a drummer, 239 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:55,905 and then I went to see how much kit of drums was 240 00:10:55,988 --> 00:10:57,698 and that was the end of that dream. 241 00:10:57,782 --> 00:10:59,533 It was just ridiculous, 242 00:10:59,617 --> 00:11:01,077 but you never felt poor. 243 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,995 You never felt poor because everybody else was the same. 244 00:11:03,079 --> 00:11:05,664 In fact, the only way you could get out of there 245 00:11:05,748 --> 00:11:10,252 was if you were a good football player or music. 246 00:11:12,838 --> 00:11:15,674 The first time I heard something that just me, 247 00:11:15,758 --> 00:11:18,344 just jumped out at me, 248 00:11:18,427 --> 00:11:21,055 thought, well, off the floor I was about 12 or something, 249 00:11:21,138 --> 00:11:24,725 the BBC television, there was only one channel. 250 00:11:24,809 --> 00:11:26,685 Mix through, queue on two. 251 00:11:26,769 --> 00:11:29,355 Today we have a surprise for you 252 00:11:29,438 --> 00:11:30,773 because they all talked like that 253 00:11:30,856 --> 00:11:34,110 with this awfully posh English accent. 254 00:11:34,193 --> 00:11:36,946 And she said, "We have a young man from America, 255 00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:41,659 a film of this young man and it he's called Little Richard." 256 00:11:42,618 --> 00:11:45,287 And I was going Little Richard? 257 00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:48,165 And anyway, it just come on and there was this 258 00:11:49,875 --> 00:11:51,627 peacock of a guy, you know? 259 00:11:51,710 --> 00:11:55,423 Fucking hair, the suit and he just went... 260 00:11:55,506 --> 00:11:57,883 * A whop bam boo bop bopa-a-lu a lam-boop-ba * 261 00:11:57,967 --> 00:12:07,476 * Tutti frutti, oh Rudy * 262 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:10,479 And I just went, "What the fuck?" 263 00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:14,567 It just turned me on me tits. 264 00:12:14,650 --> 00:12:17,778 I just couldn't believe anybody could sing like that. 265 00:12:17,862 --> 00:12:19,989 I just, I wanna sing like that, you know? 266 00:12:20,072 --> 00:12:23,784 * Bop bopa-a-lu a whop bam boo * 267 00:12:23,868 --> 00:12:26,454 The music we had was the car radio. 268 00:12:26,537 --> 00:12:29,999 And there was like Ray Charles and you know, Johnny Cash 269 00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:32,793 and the Supremes and the Beatles eventually and all that. 270 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:35,921 There was no connection between that and real life. 271 00:12:36,005 --> 00:12:37,173 There was no idea like, you know what? 272 00:12:37,256 --> 00:12:38,799 I think I'll be in a band someday. 273 00:12:38,883 --> 00:12:40,676 Like I want to be just like Jimi Hendrix, 274 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:41,927 maybe I learn to play guitar. 275 00:12:42,011 --> 00:12:44,597 That didn't happen in a rural area of Illinois. 276 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:46,098 You didn't feel it. 277 00:12:46,182 --> 00:12:48,767 I mean, I think it's a lot different now. Right? 278 00:12:48,851 --> 00:12:50,269 The last thing I ever thought of, 279 00:12:50,352 --> 00:12:53,272 probably nun, 280 00:12:53,355 --> 00:12:54,607 teacher, 281 00:12:54,690 --> 00:12:56,108 mother, 282 00:12:56,192 --> 00:12:58,861 nurse, maybe if I didn't tell anybody, stewardess. 283 00:13:00,863 --> 00:13:03,866 In the projects in Morrison Lane where we lived, 284 00:13:03,949 --> 00:13:07,703 my aunts would come over and they would just 285 00:13:07,786 --> 00:13:09,872 have a couple of drinks and started listening 286 00:13:09,955 --> 00:13:12,124 to like R&B. 287 00:13:12,208 --> 00:13:14,210 R&B, all the Detroit sound, all the, 288 00:13:14,293 --> 00:13:16,128 Gladys Knight & the Pips, 289 00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:18,881 The Temptations, all that stuff that came out of Motown. 290 00:13:18,964 --> 00:13:21,133 They would all sit around and groove to it. 291 00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:23,344 And so as little kids we would just kind of peer in 292 00:13:23,427 --> 00:13:24,803 and like, what are they doing? 293 00:13:24,887 --> 00:13:26,680 Well, they sure seem to be having fun. 294 00:13:26,764 --> 00:13:28,390 Russell, this father I grew up with, 295 00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:31,727 he did buy a Danelectro guitar. 296 00:13:31,810 --> 00:13:34,063 The one that came in the case with the amp. 297 00:13:34,146 --> 00:13:36,482 He couldn't play it, but he would just let us play it. 298 00:13:36,565 --> 00:13:39,485 And I would just get on it and go, woo, woo, woo 299 00:13:39,568 --> 00:13:42,738 and just try to make a fucking sound. 300 00:13:42,821 --> 00:13:45,199 And I was like wow, this is cool. 301 00:13:45,282 --> 00:13:46,659 It makes a sound. It makes a sound. 302 00:13:46,742 --> 00:13:50,579 I'm just making noise but I was fascinated. 303 00:13:54,416 --> 00:13:56,877 I was in the school band, you know. 304 00:13:56,961 --> 00:14:00,005 Learn my paradiddles and my single stroke roles, 305 00:14:00,089 --> 00:14:03,050 you know, just the basics, but I got tired of it. 306 00:14:03,133 --> 00:14:06,595 And I felt that listening to Zeppelin, you know, 307 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,847 listening to the Stones, you know, 308 00:14:08,931 --> 00:14:13,602 I learned more about rhythm and song structure 309 00:14:13,686 --> 00:14:16,438 and melody than somebody sitting there 310 00:14:16,522 --> 00:14:18,274 teaching me his own way. 311 00:14:18,357 --> 00:14:20,359 I wanted to have a band by the time 312 00:14:21,860 --> 00:14:23,862 I got my first drum kit. 313 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:27,116 That had to have been like eighth grade. 314 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:30,244 I got a drum kit when I was maybe 11 or 12. 315 00:14:30,327 --> 00:14:31,870 And I would sit, I had it modeled master after 316 00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:36,083 Ian Paice and John Coghlan, the guy from Status Quo. 317 00:14:36,166 --> 00:14:37,793 My friends would come over. 318 00:14:37,876 --> 00:14:40,963 We'd take some tennis rackets, they would do guitar. 319 00:14:41,046 --> 00:14:44,258 And then we would, we had these, it was like an old house. 320 00:14:44,341 --> 00:14:47,052 It had like old school radiators 321 00:14:47,136 --> 00:14:48,971 and we would turn the radiators up 322 00:14:49,054 --> 00:14:50,723 and then we would, don't tell anybody this. 323 00:14:50,806 --> 00:14:52,725 We'd take our shirts off 324 00:14:52,808 --> 00:14:55,728 and then we would like sweat and we would be on stage 325 00:14:55,811 --> 00:14:58,522 and we would be like in a rock band, it was so cool. 326 00:15:00,316 --> 00:15:02,651 All right, we have to cut it all the way back 327 00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:07,740 because my neighbors were core punk rockers. 328 00:15:08,490 --> 00:15:10,784 They had the garage band 329 00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:13,996 in the 80s that drove the entire neighborhood 330 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:16,165 property values down. 331 00:15:16,248 --> 00:15:19,668 Pierced cheeks, mohawks to the moon, right? 332 00:15:19,752 --> 00:15:22,921 And they actually had a super influential punk rock band 333 00:15:23,005 --> 00:15:25,424 at the time called 334 00:15:28,177 --> 00:15:29,261 Christian Death. 335 00:15:29,345 --> 00:15:30,512 Those were your neighbors? Yeah. 336 00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:32,306 Christian Death were my neighbors. 337 00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:34,016 So they would hear me playing 338 00:15:34,099 --> 00:15:37,186 like Casey Kasem pop music next door. 339 00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:40,522 So I'd be blasting that right out the window 340 00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:42,024 where they'd be trying to rehearse. 341 00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:46,195 So one time they finally just came in and mobbed me, right? 342 00:15:46,278 --> 00:15:50,115 So they came in, pulled the wires on my receiver 343 00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,117 and just said, "Here. 344 00:15:52,201 --> 00:15:54,411 You need to start here, man. 345 00:15:55,621 --> 00:15:57,790 Here is a Clash record. 346 00:15:57,873 --> 00:16:00,542 Here is Paul Weller in The Jam. 347 00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:02,294 A handful of records, here. 348 00:16:02,378 --> 00:16:05,047 This is what, let's start listening to this." 349 00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:08,133 I never had an older brother or sister 350 00:16:08,217 --> 00:16:12,471 so my musical experiences where, you know, 351 00:16:12,554 --> 00:16:15,224 I would gravitate to, like Prince is my favorite 352 00:16:15,307 --> 00:16:18,644 and still to this day is my favorite. 353 00:16:18,727 --> 00:16:22,231 And when I got in No Doubt, 354 00:16:22,314 --> 00:16:24,316 Eric Stefani, who started the band 355 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,402 and the rest of the guys, Chris Webb and all these guys 356 00:16:26,485 --> 00:16:27,653 exposed me like to the great, 357 00:16:27,736 --> 00:16:30,572 it was just like this incredible moment 358 00:16:30,656 --> 00:16:33,075 of just like 359 00:16:33,158 --> 00:16:35,494 Fishbone and Bad Brains and the Peppers 360 00:16:35,577 --> 00:16:37,579 and everything at that time. 361 00:16:37,663 --> 00:16:39,498 And I was a sponge and it was just like, 362 00:16:39,581 --> 00:16:41,417 my whole world changed. 363 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:42,710 * Party at ground zero * 364 00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:45,045 * A "B" movie starring you * 365 00:16:45,129 --> 00:16:47,339 Do you feel like you're musically inclined? 366 00:16:47,423 --> 00:16:49,341 I don't know if I ever gave that much of a thought 367 00:16:49,425 --> 00:16:51,427 like I just enjoyed it and it was fun 368 00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:54,179 and I'd kind of found a thing and I was doing it, 369 00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:57,516 and I kept doing it. 370 00:17:06,775 --> 00:17:08,193 The story of how U2 formed, 371 00:17:08,277 --> 00:17:11,572 having learned basic guitar playing, like real basic. 372 00:17:11,655 --> 00:17:13,365 I had this idea that maybe at some point 373 00:17:13,449 --> 00:17:15,868 I would join a garage band. 374 00:17:15,951 --> 00:17:19,204 A junior pupil had a drum kit and he wants to form a band 375 00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:22,458 and had put a note on the notice board of the school 376 00:17:23,834 --> 00:17:24,960 for musicians. 377 00:17:25,043 --> 00:17:28,714 So I found the note, 378 00:17:28,797 --> 00:17:31,800 took down the phone number, called this young guy, 379 00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:33,594 Larry Mullen was his name. 380 00:17:33,677 --> 00:17:36,263 Found out there was a meeting in his house. 381 00:17:36,346 --> 00:17:37,639 At that first meeting, were all members of U2 382 00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:39,725 with like three other people. 383 00:17:39,808 --> 00:17:41,977 We started all gathering instruments 384 00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:43,979 and then we got a chance to play together. 385 00:17:44,062 --> 00:17:47,649 And that's when we realized that 386 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:48,901 we had a lot of work to do. 387 00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:51,278 It was, it was just cacophony. 388 00:17:51,361 --> 00:17:54,406 No one could play in time, no one could play in tune, 389 00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:56,658 it was not good. 390 00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:58,285 But I don't know what. 391 00:17:58,368 --> 00:18:00,496 we just decided to persevere. 392 00:18:00,579 --> 00:18:04,833 Over weeks and months slowly, something starts to gel. 393 00:18:06,335 --> 00:18:09,922 Our slow increase in skill suddenly met the Ramones. 394 00:18:10,005 --> 00:18:14,676 * Well, the girls are frisky in old 'Frisco * 395 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,847 * A pretty little chick wherever you go * 396 00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:20,098 * Oh * 397 00:18:20,182 --> 00:18:22,351 And we, that's it, this is the answer. 398 00:18:22,434 --> 00:18:25,187 This is the music we need to play. 399 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:28,482 Simple, heavy cord guitar. 400 00:18:28,565 --> 00:18:29,775 But it's punk rock. 401 00:18:29,858 --> 00:18:31,276 * Where they're out there having fun * 402 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,654 * In the warm California sun * 403 00:18:33,737 --> 00:18:35,781 * Where they're out there having fun * 404 00:18:35,864 --> 00:18:38,450 * In the warm California sun * 405 00:18:40,452 --> 00:18:42,371 I know when I talked to you about music before, 406 00:18:42,454 --> 00:18:44,873 you grew up loving classic rock. 407 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:46,125 Good, great rock bands. 408 00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:46,959 Great drummers. 409 00:18:47,042 --> 00:18:48,460 You loved Zeppelin. 410 00:18:48,544 --> 00:18:50,879 You loved, you know, the great rock band, Sabbath, you know. 411 00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:53,465 And for me, like when I was a kid, I was just like, 412 00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:55,467 "Rock music is for dumb people. 413 00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:57,386 Rock music is for people who like haircuts 414 00:18:57,469 --> 00:19:00,722 and clothes and they don't care about music." 415 00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:05,060 You know, when I was a kid, my life was very tumultuous. 416 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:07,521 I was a complete fuck up in school. 417 00:19:07,604 --> 00:19:10,065 I started doing drugs when I was 11 years old. 418 00:19:10,148 --> 00:19:11,567 You know, I was scared to be home. 419 00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:14,486 My stepdad was a junky and wild and violent 420 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:16,905 and it wasn't a safe place, you know? 421 00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:21,869 And the one thing was I got to play music in school, 422 00:19:21,952 --> 00:19:23,161 and I played trumpet. 423 00:19:23,245 --> 00:19:24,913 I had dreams of being a jazz trumpet player 424 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:27,666 or playing in a great symphony orchestra when I grew up, 425 00:19:27,749 --> 00:19:30,335 and the feeling that I had when I held that fucking thing 426 00:19:30,419 --> 00:19:32,671 to my lips and blew on it 427 00:19:32,754 --> 00:19:35,424 was like all the chaos, all the fear, 428 00:19:35,507 --> 00:19:37,259 all the like hung over because it was a crazy night 429 00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:38,886 and the cops came to my house 430 00:19:38,969 --> 00:19:41,221 and my stepdad just shooting at them 431 00:19:41,305 --> 00:19:42,681 and threatening to kill himself, 432 00:19:42,764 --> 00:19:45,392 like all this stuff all disappeared. 433 00:19:46,935 --> 00:19:48,520 And in that moment of playing, 434 00:19:48,604 --> 00:19:51,356 and like when I felt like I made a beautiful sound, 435 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,234 it was like, in that moment, everything was all right. 436 00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:01,700 I'll never forget. I was like 18. 437 00:20:01,783 --> 00:20:06,788 And at 18, you are allowed to do night shift at the factory. 438 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:11,293 Night shift meant you got double wages. 439 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:12,419 Okay? 440 00:20:12,502 --> 00:20:14,296 And it was four nights a week 441 00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:16,882 and it was from nine o'clock at night 442 00:20:16,965 --> 00:20:19,885 until something the next morning. 443 00:20:19,968 --> 00:20:21,762 I was walking in with me little hopper sack on 444 00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:23,221 with two other guys. 445 00:20:24,389 --> 00:20:27,100 And the sun, there was actually a sunny sky 446 00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:28,310 and it was setting in 447 00:20:28,393 --> 00:20:30,979 and there was a big orange glow in the sky 448 00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:34,232 and I stopped and looked and I'm like. 449 00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:35,817 And he went, "What's wrong with you?" 450 00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:38,987 And I said, "Just think about the all of the things 451 00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,572 people are doing around the world, 452 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:44,159 and we're gonna walk into that big black hole there 453 00:20:44,242 --> 00:20:47,996 and spend the night working on that shit. 454 00:20:49,331 --> 00:20:50,749 And I don't want to do it." 455 00:20:50,832 --> 00:20:52,668 And they just looked at me. 456 00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:56,046 Mad, mad as a and I was. 457 00:20:57,255 --> 00:20:58,507 I rather be out there than going in here, 458 00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:00,175 earning double time. 459 00:21:06,014 --> 00:21:07,933 In my family, music was the movement. 460 00:21:08,016 --> 00:21:10,102 Music was the revolution. 461 00:21:10,185 --> 00:21:12,604 You know, music was social justice 462 00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:13,939 and social change and cultural. 463 00:21:14,022 --> 00:21:15,774 There's a lot that went into it, 464 00:21:15,857 --> 00:21:17,609 more than it just being music. 465 00:21:17,693 --> 00:21:19,027 You know, when you have that moment 466 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:20,654 where it kind of clarifies who you want to be 467 00:21:20,737 --> 00:21:22,990 and what you want to do and how you want to do it. 468 00:21:23,073 --> 00:21:24,950 And I heard Mississippi John Hurt for the first time 469 00:21:25,033 --> 00:21:26,451 and I asked my grandmother, I said, 470 00:21:26,535 --> 00:21:28,453 "Grandma, who were these guys? 471 00:21:28,537 --> 00:21:29,705 Who were these two guys playing?" 472 00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:31,039 She's like, "No, no, it's just one guy." 473 00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:32,207 You know, one thing with the thumb, 474 00:21:32,290 --> 00:21:33,959 bass with the thumb, melody with the fingers. 475 00:21:34,042 --> 00:21:35,836 I just, I just, that was it. 476 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:37,796 I had to do that. 477 00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:41,216 How old were you? 19. 478 00:21:41,299 --> 00:21:45,887 * You got to walk that lonesome valley * 479 00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:48,682 * Well, you got to walk * 480 00:21:48,765 --> 00:21:50,308 * It for yourself * 481 00:21:50,392 --> 00:21:53,228 You know, some musicians begin to play 482 00:21:53,311 --> 00:21:56,231 because they want to, you know, 483 00:21:56,314 --> 00:21:59,484 be in the band and travel and see the world. 484 00:21:59,568 --> 00:22:01,653 But with you, it seems like you were really 485 00:22:01,737 --> 00:22:02,988 kind of born into it. 486 00:22:03,071 --> 00:22:05,657 I've been playing 75 years. 487 00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:08,368 And I learned off the road, 488 00:22:08,452 --> 00:22:10,662 the road taught me how to live. 489 00:22:11,747 --> 00:22:13,415 Well, my name is Charles Gabriel. 490 00:22:13,498 --> 00:22:15,167 I'm from to the city of New Orleans, 491 00:22:15,250 --> 00:22:16,418 the great city of New Orleans. 492 00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:18,670 And my grandfather was born in New Orleans 493 00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:21,506 and he was a cornet player. 494 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:24,342 And he had The National the jazz band in 1920. 495 00:22:24,426 --> 00:22:25,927 And my father born in New Orleans too 496 00:22:26,011 --> 00:22:31,016 and he was a drummer and my father had five boys, 497 00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:34,269 five of us and five girls. 498 00:22:34,352 --> 00:22:38,732 And my mother and them decided to go to Detroit in 1941. 499 00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:41,526 My dad told my mother, he said, 500 00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:43,028 "You can to take them all to Detroit 501 00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:46,114 but you can't take Charlie, 'cause I'm teaching Charlie." 502 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:48,784 Because he was teaching me about seven years 503 00:22:48,867 --> 00:22:50,702 before I was able to go to Detroit 504 00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:51,870 and join the rest of my family. 505 00:22:51,953 --> 00:22:54,289 And that's what I wanted to do. 506 00:22:54,372 --> 00:22:57,042 I wanted to become a musician. 507 00:22:57,125 --> 00:22:59,795 I prayed to God that I can become a musician 508 00:22:59,878 --> 00:23:03,590 to qualify to play music anywhere in the universe. 509 00:23:03,673 --> 00:23:05,717 To me it was it was just normal. 510 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:14,476 When did you become a musician? 511 00:23:16,978 --> 00:23:18,939 That's hopefully in a couple of years from now. 512 00:23:19,022 --> 00:23:20,398 We're very close. 513 00:23:20,482 --> 00:23:23,235 There may be actually a record deal around the corner 514 00:23:23,318 --> 00:23:26,488 which could make this Metallic thing really take off. 515 00:23:26,571 --> 00:23:28,907 I know some people, just so you know. 516 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:32,494 Every Thursday there was three hours of learning 517 00:23:32,577 --> 00:23:34,663 about religion and about history, 518 00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:37,457 religious history in the Danish school 519 00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:41,086 so we would go to the Lutheran church 520 00:23:41,169 --> 00:23:42,629 down the street from the school. 521 00:23:42,712 --> 00:23:45,966 And I remember clearly the priest 522 00:23:46,049 --> 00:23:49,261 going through everybody and talking to them about 523 00:23:49,344 --> 00:23:51,304 what they imagined their future being. 524 00:23:51,388 --> 00:23:54,266 And sitting there, when it was my turn, 525 00:23:54,349 --> 00:23:57,310 I said, "I don't know what I'm gonna do, 526 00:23:57,394 --> 00:24:00,522 but I know it's gonna involve traveling 527 00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:03,650 and it's not gonna be something that's stationary." 528 00:24:04,943 --> 00:24:06,111 When did you move to America? 529 00:24:06,194 --> 00:24:07,362 I was 17. 530 00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:11,950 I put an ad in The Recycler and I said, 531 00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:14,536 "Drummer, looking for other people to perform 532 00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:15,996 hard rock heavy metal band with." 533 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:18,790 And then about six months later, I got a call 534 00:24:18,874 --> 00:24:20,709 from a guy named James Hetfield. 535 00:24:20,792 --> 00:24:22,961 We became friends. 536 00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:26,882 When we became friends and he sort of got bit 537 00:24:26,965 --> 00:24:28,967 by the new wave of British heavy metal bug also, 538 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:32,387 I mean, he was into Aerosmith and Scorpions and Judas Priest 539 00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:33,513 and Iron Maiden and so on, 540 00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,348 but he didn't really know 541 00:24:35,432 --> 00:24:39,144 about Hollow Ground, about Sledgehammer. 542 00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:41,479 And so when we've gone into all that stuff 543 00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:44,733 he got sort of obsessed with it also. 544 00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:47,569 And then it was like, what can we do? 545 00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:50,322 And maybe we should start writing our own songs 546 00:24:50,405 --> 00:24:53,325 and all that started happening. 547 00:24:53,408 --> 00:24:55,994 Is this the only band you've really ever been in? 548 00:24:56,077 --> 00:24:58,663 Metallica's the only band I've ever been in, yes. 549 00:24:59,789 --> 00:25:00,665 What a dick. 550 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:03,752 How many years have you been together? 551 00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:05,378 Well, 552 00:25:05,462 --> 00:25:07,589 if you count the earlier years, 553 00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:09,424 it's over 40 years. 554 00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,427 Yeah. It's a long time. 555 00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:13,720 It's like a fucking arranged marriage. 556 00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:17,390 What the fuck. Yeah. 557 00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:19,392 How long before you actually got in front of people 558 00:25:19,476 --> 00:25:20,435 and played a song? 559 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,188 We were probably a year, 560 00:25:23,271 --> 00:25:25,941 I would think, or certainly the guts of a year 561 00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:29,861 before we had the courage to play in front of anyone. 562 00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:34,950 And it was a small gig in the gymnasium of the school. 563 00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:37,410 Having like argued for ages 564 00:25:37,494 --> 00:25:39,120 about what we were gonna play, 565 00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:42,290 we ended up voting for a song that Bono sang the best 566 00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:44,459 which was a Peter Frampton song of all things. 567 00:25:44,542 --> 00:25:45,585 "Show Me the Way." 568 00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:49,631 * I wonder how you're feeling * 569 00:25:49,714 --> 00:25:52,133 * There's ringing in my ears * 570 00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:55,637 So we played "Show Me the Way" and Bono nailed it. 571 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,930 He's sang it really well 572 00:25:57,013 --> 00:26:00,809 and we kind of played in tune and in time 573 00:26:00,892 --> 00:26:04,062 and the whole gymnasium went completely bezerk. 574 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,565 And I think that was kind of the light went on 575 00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:09,067 pretty much at that moment. 576 00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:12,070 Everyone just went wow. 577 00:26:12,153 --> 00:26:14,990 No one really picks up a guitar and says, 578 00:26:15,073 --> 00:26:17,200 "I want a million dollar record contract." 579 00:26:18,326 --> 00:26:20,078 You pick up a guitar and yeah, it'd be great 580 00:26:20,161 --> 00:26:21,496 to be able to feed your pie hole 581 00:26:21,579 --> 00:26:23,581 but people are responding to the relationship 582 00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:27,085 you have with yourself, your own soul 583 00:26:27,168 --> 00:26:28,586 and how it reflects to them. 584 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,505 And they're responding to the connection 585 00:26:30,588 --> 00:26:32,757 and commitment to the sound you're making. 586 00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:35,885 The next logical step is 587 00:26:37,554 --> 00:26:38,680 you put a band together 588 00:26:40,015 --> 00:26:41,182 and get in a van. 589 00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:43,852 And go out and conquer the world. 590 00:26:47,897 --> 00:26:52,902 * Yeah * 591 00:26:54,362 --> 00:26:56,823 * Well, we've been to London and we've been to LA * 592 00:26:56,906 --> 00:26:59,284 * Spain, New Zealand, and the USA * 593 00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:07,042 * Touring, touring, is never boring * 594 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:10,211 * Touring, touring, oh baby, touring * 595 00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:12,505 Every band story is unique 596 00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:16,134 but on some level they're all the same. 597 00:27:16,217 --> 00:27:17,635 It's about connection. 598 00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:19,554 What were some of the first gigs like? 599 00:27:19,637 --> 00:27:21,473 Well, our first gig ever actually 600 00:27:21,556 --> 00:27:24,851 a band dropped off of a Fishbone gig in Kansas. 601 00:27:24,934 --> 00:27:29,564 * Oh * 602 00:27:31,232 --> 00:27:32,400 You say it! 603 00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:34,152 The first gig ever was super big and awesome. 604 00:27:34,235 --> 00:27:36,237 We were like, "Whoa, we gotta book another gig like now. 605 00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:37,739 We're huge. Let's do this. 606 00:27:37,822 --> 00:27:41,826 And then next gig, fucking like five people, you know? 607 00:27:41,910 --> 00:27:43,370 It was like the best because then you never gave up 608 00:27:43,453 --> 00:27:44,746 because you're like, dude, 609 00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:46,915 'cause it can be that first show. 610 00:27:46,998 --> 00:27:50,001 That show kind of showed us that, you know, 611 00:27:50,085 --> 00:27:52,420 we could get to there someday. 612 00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:54,339 Like for real, you know. 613 00:27:54,422 --> 00:27:57,926 The few shows after that was like oh, 614 00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,177 back to reality. 615 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:06,101 Touring is hard. Mm-hmm. 616 00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:07,685 But you just can't find anything 617 00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:10,772 like pulling into a truck stop at three in the morning. 618 00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:11,940 There's no way. 619 00:28:12,023 --> 00:28:14,192 Also touring is such a necessity now 620 00:28:14,275 --> 00:28:18,238 because it's the only real exposure you can get. 621 00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:23,785 Load in at two o'clock. 622 00:28:26,329 --> 00:28:27,622 You know, when you're young 623 00:28:27,705 --> 00:28:29,874 and you pick up an instrument for the first time, 624 00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:32,877 you really don't imagine that someday 625 00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:35,088 you'll be the one writing the songs 626 00:28:35,171 --> 00:28:39,050 and you'll be the one traveling the country or the world 627 00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:42,053 sharing your music with other people. 628 00:28:43,179 --> 00:28:45,390 What song are you gonna open with tonight? 629 00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:46,975 Uh, I don't know the name of it. 630 00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:49,894 What's the name? Oh, I'm sorry. 631 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:51,604 But then once you start sharing it 632 00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:52,814 with other people 633 00:28:52,897 --> 00:28:55,650 and you see the joy that it brings 634 00:28:55,733 --> 00:28:58,903 and you see the love and everyone singing along 635 00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:02,073 and dancing, and that becomes your mission. 636 00:29:02,157 --> 00:29:04,659 The connection to the audience becomes your mission. 637 00:29:07,036 --> 00:29:08,913 We're the Foo Fighters. 638 00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:13,251 This is the first show of our tour. 639 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:18,923 And we're gonna do a song that we wrote three ago. 640 00:29:19,007 --> 00:29:22,927 To kick off our first part of the tour. 641 00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:24,846 It's called "My Hero." 642 00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:31,436 It's one of the reasons why I still have the first van 643 00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:33,104 that the Foo Fighters toured in. 644 00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:36,900 I'm thankful that I had those experiences 645 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:42,655 just trying to get the gear up on stage, 646 00:29:42,739 --> 00:29:44,949 be the best band anyone's ever seen, 647 00:29:45,033 --> 00:29:47,952 get it back in the van and make it to the next city. 648 00:29:48,036 --> 00:29:51,289 * There goes my hero * 649 00:29:51,372 --> 00:29:54,626 * Watch him as he goes * 650 00:29:54,709 --> 00:29:56,294 Because there's no guarantee 651 00:29:57,253 --> 00:29:59,214 that it will ever pay off. 652 00:30:01,591 --> 00:30:05,178 The reward has to be the experience. 653 00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,305 Without there being any career aspiration, 654 00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:08,806 why on earth would you do it? 655 00:30:11,226 --> 00:30:13,228 It's a drive to see other places 656 00:30:13,311 --> 00:30:14,896 and have different experiences. 657 00:30:14,979 --> 00:30:17,065 I mean, I think that was part of American culture. 658 00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:18,316 That was one of the really great things 659 00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:20,735 that was handed down to us was this idea 660 00:30:20,818 --> 00:30:23,029 that you could go hitchhike, you could go on a bus, 661 00:30:23,112 --> 00:30:25,573 you could go do all this stuff 662 00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,992 and see other parts of America 663 00:30:28,076 --> 00:30:30,995 which were different than where you grew up. 664 00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:32,497 So I'm in a band. 665 00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:35,166 What would you say I would have to do to make it? 666 00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:38,211 How many thousands of times have you heard that? 667 00:30:38,294 --> 00:30:39,754 What's the answer? 668 00:30:39,837 --> 00:30:43,258 Well, you gotta, which will be very hard to do nowadays, 669 00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:48,346 but you got to play clubs until you can't anymore. 670 00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:50,098 Because you played clubs, 671 00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:52,100 not until you didn't want to, 672 00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:55,019 you had to until you got good. 673 00:30:55,103 --> 00:30:57,438 I will still to this day talk to the band and go, 674 00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:00,525 "You guys, we have to have a meeting together. 675 00:31:00,608 --> 00:31:01,943 Stop bullshit phone and lawyers, 676 00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:04,362 we gotta just get together." 677 00:31:04,445 --> 00:31:06,281 Because that's what this was. 678 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:07,949 We would talk about the show afterwards, 679 00:31:08,032 --> 00:31:11,369 you ride down the road and suddenly it's fucking snowing. 680 00:31:11,452 --> 00:31:13,079 This is what we had. 681 00:31:13,162 --> 00:31:14,038 Look at those. 682 00:31:14,122 --> 00:31:16,541 Those are the windshield wipers. 683 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:18,543 The fuck. 684 00:31:18,626 --> 00:31:21,045 You have to pound the payment. 685 00:31:21,129 --> 00:31:22,046 You have to put in the miles. 686 00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:24,799 There's no way to recreate 687 00:31:24,882 --> 00:31:29,554 or even initially create that type of momentum 688 00:31:29,637 --> 00:31:34,642 without getting behind the wheel of a vehicle. 689 00:31:35,476 --> 00:31:36,644 What used to be our Thomas Guide 690 00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,229 is now just a push of a button, right? 691 00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:40,315 But you still have to follow directions, 692 00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:42,734 follow instructions to get to where you're going. 693 00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:45,653 I mean, nobody would ever want to get in a van 694 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:49,824 with their families and drive for 20 minutes, right? 695 00:31:49,907 --> 00:31:51,451 But here you are and here we are 696 00:31:51,534 --> 00:31:54,579 getting in a Ford Econoline van 697 00:31:56,748 --> 00:31:57,999 and setting sail 698 00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:02,420 with complete strangers. 699 00:32:04,088 --> 00:32:05,673 For that moment, 700 00:32:06,674 --> 00:32:08,092 that is the dream. 701 00:32:11,512 --> 00:32:12,680 You're pirates. 702 00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:16,434 Like you're fucking pirates and you have 703 00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:19,937 decided that this is gonna be your life 704 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:23,107 and you don't see any other alternatives. 705 00:32:23,191 --> 00:32:25,443 It's not like, well, I'll do this for a little bit 706 00:32:25,526 --> 00:32:27,695 before I start my data entry job 707 00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:31,991 it really was like a clear delineation of like okay, 708 00:32:32,075 --> 00:32:35,370 you're a freak and you're choosing a crazy thing. 709 00:32:35,453 --> 00:32:39,457 And this is the straight life over here and you swerved. 710 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:42,168 * How can anybody have you * 711 00:32:42,251 --> 00:32:47,173 * How can anybody have you and lose you * 712 00:32:47,256 --> 00:32:49,801 * And not lose their minds, too * 713 00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:54,472 By week four or week five, or sometimes even day five, 714 00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:58,559 you just get this sort of tour crazies where 715 00:33:00,436 --> 00:33:04,232 you are part zombie from the routine, 716 00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:06,317 like a cooped up little kid 717 00:33:06,401 --> 00:33:08,319 because you've been sitting for eight hours 718 00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:10,446 or whatever in the van so you just 719 00:33:11,489 --> 00:33:13,324 want to freak out. 720 00:33:13,408 --> 00:33:16,077 And it helps. 721 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,372 It helps to have people you can freak out with. 722 00:33:19,455 --> 00:33:24,335 I think a lot of the attraction 723 00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:26,587 to doing this was the unknown. 724 00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:28,589 Just not knowing. You know? 725 00:33:28,673 --> 00:33:30,007 You grow up, you live your life 726 00:33:30,091 --> 00:33:34,762 with certain responsibilities and rules and routines. 727 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:40,768 This to me seemed like it just went against all of that. 728 00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:42,687 That you're free. 729 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:44,856 You know? 730 00:33:44,939 --> 00:33:47,275 When the Foo Fighters first started as a band, 731 00:33:47,358 --> 00:33:48,693 anyone that interviewed us 732 00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:52,155 really just wanted to talk about our past. 733 00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:55,366 The impetus to create some stuff 734 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:56,951 was not stemming at all from Kurt's death 735 00:33:57,034 --> 00:33:58,202 but it was actually stemming 736 00:33:58,286 --> 00:33:59,746 from the fact that Nirvana broke up. 737 00:33:59,829 --> 00:34:01,539 Shit, it's a surprise when anyone commits suicide 738 00:34:01,622 --> 00:34:03,750 even if they say they're gonna do it, look at Darby. 739 00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:05,042 Yeah. 740 00:34:05,126 --> 00:34:06,544 Yeah. 741 00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:08,212 What? What was that? 742 00:34:08,296 --> 00:34:10,631 Just yeah, I'm not interested in this part. 743 00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:12,425 And did you look at sitting at home 744 00:34:12,508 --> 00:34:13,634 was a period of mourning kind of thing 745 00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:14,969 and then then Foo Fighters is it now. 746 00:34:15,052 --> 00:34:18,473 Well, of course, but yeah. 747 00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:20,725 Yeah, sure. 748 00:34:20,808 --> 00:34:24,395 We kind of felt like we needed to have some experiences 749 00:34:24,479 --> 00:34:26,481 of our own, you know, 750 00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:27,565 go out and do stuff. 751 00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:30,985 So, 752 00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:34,155 the van just made perfect sense. 753 00:34:35,031 --> 00:34:36,157 We went on our first tour. 754 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,493 It was, I mean, it was bare bones. 755 00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:39,994 It wasn't, there was no 756 00:34:41,245 --> 00:34:44,290 rock royalty superstar review. 757 00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:45,374 I mean, it was like, 758 00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,503 we were hurting, you know? 759 00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:51,088 Look at Pat's feet! Disgusting. 760 00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:52,256 Oh! 761 00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:55,760 What? 762 00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:04,393 Getting the big dick? 763 00:35:06,354 --> 00:35:09,440 That's the room, that's the room penis, right there. 764 00:35:09,524 --> 00:35:12,860 No way. That was the room penis. 765 00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:15,112 Hi. 766 00:35:15,196 --> 00:35:17,198 Anything- Let's get the boys 767 00:35:17,281 --> 00:35:18,115 changing now. 768 00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:19,367 Yeah, let's get the boys- 769 00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:22,203 Hi, I've got to put on some dry clothes. 770 00:35:22,286 --> 00:35:25,540 Okay, Dave, we'll let you have some privacy. Okay. 771 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,462 Oh, it's like kitchen is open. 772 00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:34,048 Peanut butter and jelly sandwich. 773 00:35:39,887 --> 00:35:40,888 Can I have a bite? 774 00:35:42,723 --> 00:35:45,726 Rock over London, rock on Chicago. 775 00:35:47,645 --> 00:35:49,146 Choosy mothers choose Jif. 776 00:35:50,606 --> 00:35:52,650 I like how the stools are really small. 777 00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:55,403 I like that, that's great. 778 00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:56,988 Shooting the breeze kind of this? 779 00:35:57,071 --> 00:35:58,239 Yeah. Well, dude. 780 00:35:58,322 --> 00:35:59,156 You're social. 781 00:36:01,617 --> 00:36:02,493 What? 782 00:36:02,577 --> 00:36:05,580 Driving around the Midwest and- 783 00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:09,250 Actually Tanya Tucker's tour bus From the 80s. 784 00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:10,918 We hustled into a van. 785 00:36:11,002 --> 00:36:12,837 I've never been in a band where somebody 786 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,256 loaded your gear for you and set your shit up. 787 00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:17,758 But they had spray painted their van silver, 788 00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:19,010 remember that? 789 00:36:19,093 --> 00:36:21,429 His car broke, he had to borrow mine. 790 00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:22,680 But could you guys imagine 791 00:36:22,763 --> 00:36:25,266 if we would have started, 792 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:28,519 done the first tour in a bus 793 00:36:28,603 --> 00:36:31,230 how different it would have been? 794 00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:33,357 I think it goes back to everything that you said 795 00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:37,778 that we had just become a band and had we done that, 796 00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:39,780 we probably never would have made it through the first year. 797 00:36:39,864 --> 00:36:41,866 To this day, we'll get off the rental jet, 798 00:36:41,949 --> 00:36:45,119 the van with wings and we all still cram 799 00:36:45,202 --> 00:36:47,163 in the same fucking van so it's... 800 00:36:50,124 --> 00:36:50,958 Pat. 801 00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:54,211 Did you ever tour in a van before the Foo Fighters? 802 00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:55,421 No. 803 00:36:55,504 --> 00:36:57,798 My first band tour with you guys. 804 00:36:57,882 --> 00:36:58,966 So when you joined Nirvana, 805 00:36:59,050 --> 00:36:59,926 that was first time you'd ever gone on tour? 806 00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:01,510 That was my first tour ever. 807 00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:06,807 Red delicious, you got your ears on? 808 00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:10,895 That's a big 10-4, big buddy. 809 00:37:10,978 --> 00:37:13,648 Germs did a couple our of town shows, 810 00:37:13,731 --> 00:37:16,150 which was like packing our shit 811 00:37:16,233 --> 00:37:19,487 in Chris Ashford's two-door Buick Skylark, 812 00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:21,155 you know, drums and the amp. 813 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,990 All we had was a bass amp, a drum set, 814 00:37:23,074 --> 00:37:24,450 and a bass with no case. 815 00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:27,328 And all of us people crammed in there 816 00:37:27,411 --> 00:37:29,622 and we'd drive to San Francisco or San Diego or whatever. 817 00:37:29,705 --> 00:37:31,415 You didn't bring a guitar? 818 00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:33,292 I didn't have a guitar, but then eventually... 819 00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:37,421 Or an amp, so it made it easier 820 00:37:37,505 --> 00:37:40,091 to cram it all into a Buick Skylark. 821 00:37:40,174 --> 00:37:41,259 * Give me, give me this * 822 00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:45,846 * Give me, give me that * 823 00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:48,599 * Give me it, now * 824 00:37:48,683 --> 00:37:51,310 * Give me it * 825 00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:53,854 None of us in the bands 826 00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:55,856 had even a thought of going and doing it somewhere. 827 00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:59,443 And it wasn't till I remember Black Flag 828 00:37:59,527 --> 00:38:02,029 started doing it more, like you can do that? 829 00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:05,366 Like you can go around the country and play gigs everywhere? 830 00:38:05,449 --> 00:38:06,534 I just figured 831 00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:09,620 because every one of my bands sucked so bad, 832 00:38:09,704 --> 00:38:12,373 why would I want to take that anywhere else 833 00:38:12,456 --> 00:38:14,125 and make anyone else have to listen to that? 834 00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:15,376 I had no idea that- 835 00:38:15,459 --> 00:38:17,044 That anyone would even want to see it, right? 836 00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:18,963 Like why would we go to another state? 837 00:38:19,046 --> 00:38:20,881 They don't know us, they don't wanna see us. 838 00:38:20,965 --> 00:38:22,383 Yeah, and I just didn't even know 839 00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:23,801 that the network existed. 840 00:38:23,884 --> 00:38:25,553 Do you wanna hear my take on 841 00:38:25,636 --> 00:38:28,514 the American punk touring network 842 00:38:28,597 --> 00:38:30,975 and the vans that followed it? 843 00:38:31,058 --> 00:38:31,892 Okay. 844 00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,310 Band number one, D.O.A. 845 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:43,487 1979, D.O.A. from Vancouver, Canada, 846 00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:44,739 they wanted to go play. 847 00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:47,199 Okay, so D.O.A. was the first band to tour. 848 00:38:47,283 --> 00:38:50,036 First band that had a band that had a band. 849 00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,162 They were connected 850 00:38:51,245 --> 00:38:53,164 to the Youth International Party. 851 00:38:53,247 --> 00:38:56,917 They then knew that so they booked a tour 852 00:38:57,001 --> 00:39:00,546 for D.O.A. that took them around the country in 1979 853 00:39:00,629 --> 00:39:03,215 including here in Washington at Madam's Organ. 854 00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:04,425 They did the circuit. 855 00:39:04,508 --> 00:39:06,510 They go through LA, they meet Black Flag. 856 00:39:07,928 --> 00:39:09,013 And then they're like, "You got to come to Vancouver." 857 00:39:09,096 --> 00:39:11,057 So Black Flag makes their way up. 858 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:14,351 They play San Francisco, maybe Portland, Seattle, Vancouver. 859 00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:16,771 And they meet up with the D.O.A. guys. 860 00:39:16,854 --> 00:39:19,106 And Bukowski sits down with him and says, 861 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:20,441 "Can I get your numbers?" 862 00:39:20,524 --> 00:39:21,692 It was a sheet. 863 00:39:21,776 --> 00:39:24,028 And it had all the clubs you could play. 864 00:39:24,111 --> 00:39:28,240 had the guy's number who ran the club. 865 00:39:28,324 --> 00:39:30,201 It had like another number 866 00:39:30,284 --> 00:39:32,369 like a punk rock house you could crash at. 867 00:39:33,454 --> 00:39:35,289 So then he starts booking a tour 868 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:36,707 and he's exhaustively, 869 00:39:36,791 --> 00:39:38,209 they start booking and booking. 870 00:39:38,292 --> 00:39:41,420 And they're gonna do a trip from LA to San Francisco. 871 00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:42,797 They're gonna stop in San Luis Obispo. 872 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,049 They're gonna just fill in the blanks. 873 00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:47,051 They were going to for coverage. 874 00:39:47,134 --> 00:39:49,303 And Black Flag, their first trip across, 875 00:39:49,386 --> 00:39:52,306 they just played so many places nobody went. 876 00:39:52,389 --> 00:39:54,725 They did all the gig, the dates they could find 877 00:39:54,809 --> 00:39:56,894 that were D.O.A., but then they started filling them in. 878 00:39:56,977 --> 00:39:57,895 Then they would get back to LA 879 00:39:57,978 --> 00:39:58,813 and they'd just turn around 880 00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,564 and go out and do their B tour. 881 00:40:00,648 --> 00:40:01,774 They just go round and round, 882 00:40:01,857 --> 00:40:04,485 but the whole time they were developing 883 00:40:04,568 --> 00:40:06,070 like this network. 884 00:40:06,153 --> 00:40:08,239 D.O.A. came in with the hatchets. 885 00:40:08,322 --> 00:40:10,658 And Black Flag came in with like the steamer. 886 00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:15,663 I don't wanna sound like I'm blowing smoke up their ass, 887 00:40:15,746 --> 00:40:17,081 but them guys, man. 888 00:40:17,164 --> 00:40:19,750 I mean, a lot of what I'm doing, I owe them. 889 00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:21,168 They had a different idea. 890 00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:24,130 The Flag guys were very much a do it kind of thing. 891 00:40:24,213 --> 00:40:25,172 You would not believe what college radio 892 00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:26,674 was like in them days. 893 00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:28,259 College radio was so terrible, 894 00:40:28,342 --> 00:40:30,427 but then they had a big switch 895 00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:33,013 and all of a sudden every DJ had their own show 896 00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:34,265 and no playlist. 897 00:40:34,348 --> 00:40:36,183 But it wasn't like that beginning, man. 898 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:38,811 Punk wasn't really a college thing for awhile. 899 00:40:38,894 --> 00:40:40,646 Touring the college circuit, 900 00:40:40,729 --> 00:40:43,023 a lot of that was through the college radio circuit 901 00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:44,525 who were playing punk rock 902 00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:46,777 and so those where the connections could be made 903 00:40:46,861 --> 00:40:47,862 so those were the towns, 904 00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:50,447 so they were developing this network. 905 00:40:50,531 --> 00:40:52,867 The gig seemed like that was the most control you had, 906 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:54,952 that situation. 907 00:40:55,035 --> 00:40:57,788 All the 23 hours it took to get to there, wherever, 908 00:40:57,872 --> 00:40:59,832 for that one hour, the gig. 909 00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:02,168 So everything else is a flyer, putting out records, 910 00:41:02,251 --> 00:41:04,378 having a band, you know, put up a name. 911 00:41:04,461 --> 00:41:07,006 all this stuff is to get people to the gig. 912 00:41:07,089 --> 00:41:08,174 Black Flag! 913 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,305 To be a punk rocker was like doing everything 914 00:41:14,388 --> 00:41:16,891 you could to express yourself. 915 00:41:22,646 --> 00:41:25,399 * Look at me, I look at you * 916 00:41:25,482 --> 00:41:27,234 * What the fuck you gonna do * 917 00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:30,738 When I first joined Scream, I think I was 17 918 00:41:30,821 --> 00:41:33,324 or had just turned 18 years old. 919 00:41:33,407 --> 00:41:36,160 They were an established band in Washington, DC, 920 00:41:36,243 --> 00:41:37,578 in Virginia, in America. 921 00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:41,749 They were kind of one of those early American 922 00:41:41,832 --> 00:41:45,252 punk rock bands that traveled. 923 00:41:46,754 --> 00:41:50,674 I had looked at all these pictures on album sleeves 924 00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:53,928 of punk rock bands 925 00:41:55,512 --> 00:41:57,264 with their sleeping bags and all their equipment 926 00:41:57,348 --> 00:42:01,727 in a van and unloading into a club out of the van. 927 00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:03,604 And that to me 928 00:42:04,688 --> 00:42:07,274 just seemed like a dream. 929 00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:11,862 Vans became sort of the central mode for all the bands. 930 00:42:11,946 --> 00:42:12,863 You lived in your van. 931 00:42:12,947 --> 00:42:14,073 I wanted to be with people 932 00:42:14,156 --> 00:42:15,866 that wanted to make music, record 933 00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:19,119 and get in the van and go experience the world. 934 00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:20,913 The physicality of being in places, 935 00:42:20,996 --> 00:42:22,790 not just hearing about it. 936 00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:25,876 Your own first person take on it. 937 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,127 There's nothing like it. 938 00:42:27,211 --> 00:42:30,214 I think it's great for the band in the van 939 00:42:30,297 --> 00:42:32,466 because you get to know each other, you know, 940 00:42:32,549 --> 00:42:34,051 you're locked in. 941 00:42:34,134 --> 00:42:37,096 You know, I think that was part of us coming together 942 00:42:37,179 --> 00:42:38,305 as the song says. 943 00:42:38,389 --> 00:42:40,474 You look at this van 944 00:42:40,557 --> 00:42:43,727 and it's like having a newborn baby or something, 945 00:42:43,811 --> 00:42:48,440 like the amount of like optimism, the possibilities, 946 00:42:48,524 --> 00:42:51,277 the infinite things that we can get in this thing 947 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,070 and we can go anywhere. 948 00:42:53,153 --> 00:42:56,073 We can load all our shit in here, our drums, 949 00:42:56,156 --> 00:42:59,076 our amps, all our shit and go. 950 00:43:00,869 --> 00:43:03,831 I have been able to live a life 951 00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:06,500 where you could just play music with your friends 952 00:43:07,668 --> 00:43:09,795 in front of people and travel around and do it. 953 00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:11,922 It was like here's the golden ticket to Oz. 954 00:43:12,006 --> 00:43:14,341 Here's the fucking golden brick pathway. 955 00:43:14,425 --> 00:43:16,427 Your life is set. 956 00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:17,845 Your winning. 957 00:43:36,947 --> 00:43:38,365 Well, I mean, at this point in your life, 958 00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:42,328 like were you just going out to just go fucking have fun? 959 00:43:42,411 --> 00:43:46,540 Were you aspiring to be like a famous musician? 960 00:43:46,623 --> 00:43:47,875 Were you just throwing everything... 961 00:43:47,958 --> 00:43:49,668 I was just being a punk. 962 00:43:49,752 --> 00:43:52,046 It never occurred to me to be famous or to be rich 963 00:43:52,129 --> 00:43:53,297 or to think about it as a job. 964 00:43:53,380 --> 00:43:55,215 It's sort of like this would, we gotta go, 965 00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:56,717 I just wanted to meet the people. 966 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,010 I wanted to go, I wanted to see what was out there. 967 00:43:58,093 --> 00:44:00,804 You have to know like, Rollins and I, in 1978 968 00:44:00,888 --> 00:44:03,390 we took a Greyhound Bus to California just go skateboarding. 969 00:44:03,474 --> 00:44:05,142 I was 16, he was 17. 970 00:44:05,225 --> 00:44:07,728 So we were just like, go, just go, go, go, go. 971 00:44:07,811 --> 00:44:10,064 That was the mission, just go. 972 00:44:10,147 --> 00:44:11,732 Jeff Nelson, drummer of Minor Threat 973 00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:16,403 and also very eccentric, brilliant like builder. 974 00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:21,158 He like got in the van, came up with a design, 975 00:44:21,241 --> 00:44:22,326 a deck design. 976 00:44:22,409 --> 00:44:24,495 That was also a huge part of all vans 977 00:44:24,578 --> 00:44:27,873 is you've got to make a really proper design. 978 00:44:27,956 --> 00:44:30,000 You know, every band had that specific way 979 00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:31,418 that they would pack the back of the van. 980 00:44:31,502 --> 00:44:34,088 You had one way to get the fucking shit, it's like Tetris. 981 00:44:34,171 --> 00:44:35,005 Yeah, yeah. One way 982 00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:35,839 to get the shit in there. 983 00:44:35,923 --> 00:44:37,049 Like everything goes in- 984 00:44:37,132 --> 00:44:38,425 Yeah, I was not that guy who knew that. 985 00:44:41,178 --> 00:44:42,262 Bands still do that? 986 00:44:42,346 --> 00:44:43,972 Are they still doing that? Yes. 987 00:44:47,518 --> 00:44:49,269 So how long have you had this one? 988 00:44:49,353 --> 00:44:51,313 This is a rental. Yeah. 989 00:44:52,356 --> 00:44:53,607 This a rental? 990 00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:54,942 You gonna return it like this? 991 00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:56,110 Yep. Yep. 992 00:44:56,193 --> 00:44:57,861 It's a necessity based thing 993 00:44:57,945 --> 00:44:59,905 to manage the space of the van 994 00:44:59,988 --> 00:45:02,950 'cause a big empty hole isn't necessarily 995 00:45:03,033 --> 00:45:04,785 the most efficient way to go. 996 00:45:04,868 --> 00:45:07,663 Somehow you break up the space. 997 00:45:09,289 --> 00:45:11,125 Some people will go horizontally 998 00:45:11,208 --> 00:45:14,044 and have the equipment in the back area. 999 00:45:14,128 --> 00:45:15,546 It's a packed van. 1000 00:45:16,713 --> 00:45:17,548 With big fear all the way at the top. 1001 00:45:17,631 --> 00:45:19,591 You can't see out the back. 1002 00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:20,884 It's not the safest. 1003 00:45:20,968 --> 00:45:22,636 All right, show me how you pack this thing. 1004 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,054 Oh, yeah 1005 00:45:24,138 --> 00:45:25,806 Back in the day explain how you would pack 1006 00:45:25,889 --> 00:45:27,307 and load your van. 1007 00:45:27,391 --> 00:45:30,269 First, man, 1008 00:45:30,352 --> 00:45:32,730 you unload all the gear, man, right? 1009 00:45:32,813 --> 00:45:34,314 And then we take something 1010 00:45:34,398 --> 00:45:36,650 and we have to throw the people out 1011 00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:38,610 and put a mattress there 1012 00:45:38,694 --> 00:45:40,737 so we can have place to sleep, you see? 1013 00:45:40,821 --> 00:45:43,991 And then we move all the gear in there. 1014 00:45:44,074 --> 00:45:47,536 And microwave built and little how you say? 1015 00:45:49,204 --> 00:45:50,038 Loft. 1016 00:45:51,915 --> 00:45:55,836 Okay. Let's go for a 3000 mile trip around the country. 1017 00:45:55,919 --> 00:45:57,421 So how many miles are you gonna put on this 1018 00:45:57,504 --> 00:45:58,589 before you bring it back? 1019 00:45:58,672 --> 00:46:00,257 Oh man, we're gonna put probably, 1020 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,012 probably put 6.000 on this, this trip. 1021 00:46:05,095 --> 00:46:06,597 Shit. 1022 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,765 How many tours do you think you've been on at this point? 1023 00:46:08,849 --> 00:46:10,768 Oh my God. I don't know. 1024 00:46:10,851 --> 00:46:12,936 50, 60, 70, more. 1025 00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:14,521 More, more probably. I bet more. 1026 00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:15,689 Yeah. How many tours 1027 00:46:15,772 --> 00:46:18,692 have you done in America at this point? 1028 00:46:18,775 --> 00:46:19,776 US ones? 1029 00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:22,821 Probably more than Europe. Right? 1030 00:46:22,905 --> 00:46:26,325 And I know if you call a tour more than a month, 1031 00:46:26,408 --> 00:46:29,745 I just did 67 so maybe 35, 37? 1032 00:46:32,247 --> 00:46:34,041 And this last tour? 1033 00:46:34,124 --> 00:46:37,836 This one was tour, named after my pop, 1034 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,963 it was 45 gigs, 45 days. 1035 00:46:40,047 --> 00:46:43,383 That's about 13.380 miles 1036 00:46:43,467 --> 00:46:44,968 and I drove every one of them. 1037 00:46:46,553 --> 00:46:50,474 I feel so grateful to have had that experience, 1038 00:46:50,557 --> 00:46:52,559 to have like that have been, 1039 00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:54,478 like every step of the way of the Chili Peppers, you know, 1040 00:46:54,561 --> 00:46:57,147 it's like we did every little step, you know? 1041 00:46:57,231 --> 00:46:59,483 And first it was a van then we moved up to the U-Hauls 1042 00:46:59,566 --> 00:47:00,901 then you could lay down in the back 1043 00:47:00,984 --> 00:47:02,736 and you had like a little mattress back there. 1044 00:47:02,819 --> 00:47:06,156 You know, you could sleep with in Chad Smith's feet 1045 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,157 in your fucking mouth. 1046 00:47:07,241 --> 00:47:08,408 You know what I mean? 1047 00:47:08,492 --> 00:47:11,245 But you'd get little shut eye, you know? 1048 00:47:11,328 --> 00:47:13,372 And then, you know, then we moved to the mobile home 1049 00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:16,333 and that was massive, the Winnebago, you know. 1050 00:47:16,416 --> 00:47:19,253 And then the first shitty bus with the crack head driver, 1051 00:47:19,336 --> 00:47:20,671 you know what I mean? 1052 00:47:20,754 --> 00:47:22,548 We were just driving to pick up hitchhikers 1053 00:47:22,631 --> 00:47:23,674 and shit on a bus. 1054 00:47:23,757 --> 00:47:24,424 What? 1055 00:47:24,508 --> 00:47:25,717 When you go out there 1056 00:47:25,801 --> 00:47:26,927 and there's some like weird methed out girls 1057 00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:28,512 in the front with the driver, 1058 00:47:28,595 --> 00:47:30,264 and you're like who is this? 1059 00:47:30,347 --> 00:47:33,517 We did the caravan of cars, personal cars, right? 1060 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,018 We got to experience that part of the band. 1061 00:47:35,102 --> 00:47:38,438 Then we got to experience the 15 passenger van 1062 00:47:38,522 --> 00:47:39,690 with a trailer. 1063 00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:41,525 Then we graduated to 15 passenger van 1064 00:47:41,608 --> 00:47:42,859 with a cargo van. 1065 00:47:42,943 --> 00:47:46,405 Then we graduate to the one bus, band and crew. 1066 00:47:46,488 --> 00:47:49,366 Then you graduate to two buses, 1067 00:47:49,449 --> 00:47:50,951 the band on one bus, the crew on one. 1068 00:47:51,034 --> 00:47:53,870 And then you graduate to everyone gets their own bus, right? 1069 00:47:53,954 --> 00:47:56,373 So we kind of got to experience all of that. 1070 00:47:56,456 --> 00:47:59,084 And it was all bit by bit by bit. 1071 00:47:59,167 --> 00:48:00,919 So you appreciate it. 1072 00:48:01,003 --> 00:48:02,629 You appreciate the fuck out of it. 1073 00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:05,215 That wow, I'm on my own bus. 1074 00:48:05,299 --> 00:48:06,633 You know? 1075 00:48:06,717 --> 00:48:08,302 And then when you can start taking a crap on buses, 1076 00:48:08,385 --> 00:48:10,470 when that change happened, 1077 00:48:10,554 --> 00:48:11,888 that was massive. 1078 00:48:12,889 --> 00:48:14,766 The Shredder. The Shredder. 1079 00:48:14,850 --> 00:48:15,642 Dude, life changer. 1080 00:48:15,726 --> 00:48:17,269 It's a big deal. I know. 1081 00:48:17,352 --> 00:48:18,729 That was a big deal. 1082 00:48:18,812 --> 00:48:20,230 Hey, remember this? 1083 00:48:20,314 --> 00:48:22,149 It's a 6140 Econoline, 1084 00:48:22,232 --> 00:48:23,650 the original modern day van. 1085 00:48:23,734 --> 00:48:26,653 And here's a new original, the 7060 Econoline. 1086 00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:28,822 It's changing van history again. 1087 00:48:28,905 --> 00:48:30,073 Check it out. 1088 00:48:30,157 --> 00:48:32,242 It's the only van with a strong, separate frame 1089 00:48:32,326 --> 00:48:34,328 and they moved the engine forward 18 inches 1090 00:48:34,411 --> 00:48:36,997 for more freedom to move around than in any other van. 1091 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,999 And no matter how your trick up your Ford, 1092 00:48:39,082 --> 00:48:41,585 there's lots of room for bags and boats 1093 00:48:41,668 --> 00:48:43,420 and beauties. Us? 1094 00:48:43,503 --> 00:48:45,672 No, these beauties. 1095 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,926 I was taking my kids to school one day. 1096 00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:54,348 My daughter Harper said, 1097 00:48:54,431 --> 00:48:56,850 "Dad, everybody's looking at us." 1098 00:48:56,933 --> 00:48:58,518 And I said, "Yeah. 1099 00:48:58,602 --> 00:49:00,062 So why do you think that is?" 1100 00:49:01,521 --> 00:49:03,607 And she said, "Because all new cars look the same." 1101 00:49:05,275 --> 00:49:07,277 I said, "Yeah, they kind of do." 1102 00:49:07,361 --> 00:49:12,199 She said, "They're all gray or black or white. 1103 00:49:12,282 --> 00:49:13,950 There's no colorful cars anymore 1104 00:49:14,034 --> 00:49:16,036 and they're all kind of the same shape." 1105 00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:18,622 And she was right. 1106 00:49:18,705 --> 00:49:21,083 But there was something about the style 1107 00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:30,175 and the progression of style that vans went through 1108 00:49:30,258 --> 00:49:33,387 from the 50 utility vehicles to the 60s 1109 00:49:33,470 --> 00:49:38,475 to the family vans, to the 70s, super 70 van culture. 1110 00:49:39,893 --> 00:49:42,729 They were such cool looking machines and you know, 1111 00:49:42,813 --> 00:49:43,980 there's something about 1112 00:49:46,108 --> 00:49:50,445 that aesthetic where when you're driving something 1113 00:49:51,571 --> 00:49:53,865 that has style, it's like, you know, 1114 00:49:53,949 --> 00:49:55,742 it's like wearing a suit. 1115 00:49:58,578 --> 00:50:00,080 You can tell a lot about a person 1116 00:50:00,163 --> 00:50:01,915 by what kind of van that drive. 1117 00:50:04,459 --> 00:50:05,836 Like this piece of shit. 1118 00:50:07,587 --> 00:50:11,258 Slayer! Slayer! Slayer! Slayer! 1119 00:50:13,176 --> 00:50:14,052 At what point did you guys 1120 00:50:14,136 --> 00:50:15,679 start to travel out of town? 1121 00:50:17,597 --> 00:50:19,850 We were traveling... 1122 00:50:19,933 --> 00:50:21,518 I would think it was upon the release 1123 00:50:21,601 --> 00:50:25,272 of the first album is when we started traveling. 1124 00:50:25,355 --> 00:50:27,023 One of the earliest trips 1125 00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:29,443 I believe we drove our own vehicles 1126 00:50:29,526 --> 00:50:31,236 up to San Francisco. 1127 00:50:31,319 --> 00:50:33,238 We just did a couple of shows, one at Ruthie's, 1128 00:50:33,321 --> 00:50:35,198 one at The Stone. 1129 00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:37,242 Did you guys think 1130 00:50:37,325 --> 00:50:41,163 that you were going to be a huge band? 1131 00:50:42,456 --> 00:50:44,374 No, but I knew there was some special. 1132 00:50:44,458 --> 00:50:46,293 We were attracting fans. 1133 00:50:47,335 --> 00:50:48,879 People were interested. 1134 00:50:48,962 --> 00:50:53,049 And we were slowly beginning to have a little following, 1135 00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:56,303 especially the clubs playing in Orange County. 1136 00:50:56,386 --> 00:50:58,930 It was cool because people were shocked 1137 00:50:59,014 --> 00:51:00,056 when they saw us. 1138 00:51:09,983 --> 00:51:11,234 Slayer! 1139 00:51:11,318 --> 00:51:14,154 We were fearless. 1140 00:51:14,237 --> 00:51:18,158 You know, we were just living life and enjoying it. 1141 00:51:18,241 --> 00:51:23,246 What it came down to was we were like, we were Slayer. 1142 00:51:24,664 --> 00:51:27,000 We felt like we had this kind of edge on everybody else, 1143 00:51:27,083 --> 00:51:29,002 on every other band there. 1144 00:51:29,085 --> 00:51:32,172 And it felt awesome. 1145 00:51:51,441 --> 00:51:53,193 What is it that makes someone 1146 00:51:53,276 --> 00:51:55,695 want to just jump in the van with all of their friends 1147 00:51:55,779 --> 00:51:57,781 and disappear for a couple months? 1148 00:51:57,864 --> 00:52:00,283 Yeah, I think it's just about like fun. 1149 00:52:00,367 --> 00:52:04,830 Like you don't, it's also not knowing what could happen. 1150 00:52:04,913 --> 00:52:06,832 Like it could either be this amazing thing 1151 00:52:06,915 --> 00:52:08,125 or it's gonna be a total train wreck, 1152 00:52:08,208 --> 00:52:09,709 but even with when we've been on tour 1153 00:52:09,793 --> 00:52:12,379 and there's like train wreck terrible moments 1154 00:52:12,462 --> 00:52:14,631 and terrible stories, we laugh about it later. 1155 00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:35,986 God, the fucking days of being like oh yeah, 1156 00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:41,074 somebody's out of town in this like Philly row house, 1157 00:52:42,576 --> 00:52:44,202 and there's like a bed free 1158 00:52:44,286 --> 00:52:46,371 and you just find yourself sleeping 1159 00:52:46,454 --> 00:52:50,083 in just some random gross bed with like dirty sheets. 1160 00:52:51,251 --> 00:52:52,502 But it was great. 1161 00:52:52,586 --> 00:52:54,254 This was like, I'm fucking living. 1162 00:52:54,337 --> 00:52:55,255 This is rad. 1163 00:52:55,338 --> 00:52:57,090 I'm in Philadelphia. 1164 00:52:57,173 --> 00:52:58,425 The third band in 92, 1165 00:52:58,508 --> 00:53:01,011 we went out and started doing like the Midwest. 1166 00:53:01,094 --> 00:53:05,348 And I remember we played in Oxford, Mississippi 1167 00:53:05,432 --> 00:53:08,768 and there was like seven of us on stage 1168 00:53:10,687 --> 00:53:13,565 and no tickets sold to the show. 1169 00:53:13,648 --> 00:53:14,941 Zero, no one's gonna be there. 1170 00:53:15,025 --> 00:53:18,361 So Adrian met some girls at the motel 1171 00:53:18,445 --> 00:53:20,322 and invited them to show up on us. 1172 00:53:21,698 --> 00:53:23,116 So they came and so there was like four of 'em. 1173 00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:26,202 So there's four people watching the seven of us on stage. 1174 00:53:26,286 --> 00:53:30,415 There's more people on stage than in the audience 1175 00:53:30,498 --> 00:53:31,750 and it was such a small little bar 1176 00:53:31,833 --> 00:53:33,376 that like we would literally take turns 1177 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:34,920 going in the audience to balance out 1178 00:53:35,003 --> 00:53:36,212 like how many people were on stage 1179 00:53:36,296 --> 00:53:37,213 and how many people were watching the band 1180 00:53:37,297 --> 00:53:39,466 or we watching ourselves. 1181 00:53:39,549 --> 00:53:41,217 Fucking awesome numbers. 1182 00:53:49,351 --> 00:53:51,061 Yeah! Yeah! Oh, I got it! 1183 00:53:51,144 --> 00:53:52,270 You never got into an accident 1184 00:53:52,354 --> 00:53:53,146 or anything in your van, did you? 1185 00:53:53,229 --> 00:53:54,481 I've almost died. 1186 00:53:54,564 --> 00:53:56,816 I never got into an accident, but there was, 1187 00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:59,778 we were driving from, I think somewhere in Ohio, 1188 00:53:59,861 --> 00:54:03,073 through West Virginia 1189 00:54:03,156 --> 00:54:04,950 and it was winter time. 1190 00:54:05,033 --> 00:54:06,910 We hit black ice and I'm driving, 1191 00:54:06,993 --> 00:54:08,328 I'm listening to, 1192 00:54:08,411 --> 00:54:09,746 we're listening to Voivod. 1193 00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:12,332 "War and Pain", never forget, you know. 1194 00:54:12,415 --> 00:54:13,500 And all of a sudden. 1195 00:54:13,583 --> 00:54:15,669 Bam, it was hilarious, man. 1196 00:54:15,752 --> 00:54:18,338 I remember I hit my head and I kind of, 1197 00:54:18,421 --> 00:54:21,007 it just went black for a little bit. 1198 00:54:21,091 --> 00:54:23,468 And I opened my eyes, like oh man, what's going on? 1199 00:54:23,551 --> 00:54:25,178 The car just starts spinning. 1200 00:54:25,261 --> 00:54:26,429 I'm like oh shit. 1201 00:54:26,513 --> 00:54:27,764 I lost control. There's nothing I could do. 1202 00:54:27,847 --> 00:54:28,848 Music's off. 1203 00:54:28,932 --> 00:54:31,434 Everybody's sat up, you know, 1204 00:54:31,518 --> 00:54:33,979 truly white knuckling the whole experience. 1205 00:54:34,062 --> 00:54:35,188 It was an hour. 1206 00:54:35,271 --> 00:54:36,439 I'm just driving along and then suddenly 1207 00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:38,525 seeing a dead piglet on the side of the road. 1208 00:54:38,608 --> 00:54:40,527 I'm like, "What the fuck?" 1209 00:54:40,610 --> 00:54:42,028 And then I can a couple, 1210 00:54:42,112 --> 00:54:44,781 maybe few seconds later, another one. 1211 00:54:44,864 --> 00:54:46,032 I was like, "What happened? 1212 00:54:46,116 --> 00:54:47,867 Why are these little dead piglets here?" 1213 00:54:47,951 --> 00:54:51,204 We're asleep on a mattress in the back of the van. 1214 00:54:51,287 --> 00:54:53,206 We ended up driving straight 1215 00:54:53,289 --> 00:54:55,834 into an East German military facility. 1216 00:54:55,917 --> 00:54:59,212 There was all these truckers high on speed 1217 00:54:59,295 --> 00:55:01,548 and we said we needed to get to Seattle. 1218 00:55:01,631 --> 00:55:06,636 And all the lads were out with their machine guns and dogs 1219 00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:09,889 and looking for passports from the driver and then- 1220 00:55:09,973 --> 00:55:12,475 There was this topless girl in Detroit. 1221 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,394 She took her leg off and put a rose in it 1222 00:55:14,477 --> 00:55:15,895 and there's a picture of it. 1223 00:55:16,938 --> 00:55:17,814 You know what? 1224 00:55:17,897 --> 00:55:19,024 It's just how we live. Right? 1225 00:55:19,107 --> 00:55:21,484 And I realized at some point they were sandbags 1226 00:55:21,568 --> 00:55:23,570 and I was tripping my fucking brains out 1227 00:55:23,653 --> 00:55:25,238 because I was exhausted. 1228 00:55:25,321 --> 00:55:26,698 I hadn't slept. 1229 00:55:26,781 --> 00:55:28,992 For the whole time I kept thinking these are dead piglets 1230 00:55:29,075 --> 00:55:31,995 every, who put a dead piglet every 50 yards? 1231 00:55:35,248 --> 00:55:39,002 What the fuck else in the world would drive you 1232 00:55:39,085 --> 00:55:41,046 to such lengths to do anything? 1233 00:55:41,129 --> 00:55:43,673 Got to get to the gig, man. Yeah. 1234 00:55:43,757 --> 00:55:47,177 Being in a van is basic survival. 1235 00:55:48,094 --> 00:55:49,512 You know? 1236 00:55:49,596 --> 00:55:51,473 Like someone's gonna have to learn to build a fire. 1237 00:55:52,849 --> 00:55:56,770 You get to be really, really close with people, 1238 00:55:56,853 --> 00:56:00,356 like close in a way that other fucking coworkers 1239 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,276 at the bank couldn't possibly know. 1240 00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:05,028 It's not that glamorous to talk about 1241 00:56:05,111 --> 00:56:08,907 but it really takes like a kind of immaturity 1242 00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:11,117 and innocence to be on the road in a van 1243 00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:14,370 but also a type of maturity where you can really tolerate, 1244 00:56:14,454 --> 00:56:17,791 see a bigger picture, have patience, exercise kindness 1245 00:56:17,874 --> 00:56:20,877 to your fellows who might be having issues 1246 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,378 because when you're in a group 1247 00:56:22,462 --> 00:56:25,298 and you're in close quarters, anything that's going on, 1248 00:56:25,381 --> 00:56:28,259 the group knows, it's a group problem. 1249 00:56:28,343 --> 00:56:31,304 We've had band members who've lost loved ones early on 1250 00:56:31,387 --> 00:56:32,555 and were in the van. 1251 00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:34,432 We've had people with drug problems 1252 00:56:34,516 --> 00:56:36,059 getting clean in the van. 1253 00:56:36,142 --> 00:56:37,644 We've had people who were clean 1254 00:56:37,727 --> 00:56:39,562 having drug problems in the van. 1255 00:56:39,646 --> 00:56:41,981 It was really like I have to deal with today. 1256 00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:44,984 And that's what the van kind of meant for me. 1257 00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:47,237 You become each other's support group 1258 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,406 in so many different ways. 1259 00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:54,994 In some really crucial times in your life, you know? 1260 00:56:55,078 --> 00:56:57,163 We got DH here. 1261 00:56:57,247 --> 00:56:58,164 I'm the bow legged brother 1262 00:56:58,248 --> 00:56:59,791 that you'll never be another. 1263 00:56:59,874 --> 00:57:01,417 And I still shoot soon. 1264 00:57:02,752 --> 00:57:04,754 At what point did you start getting high? 1265 00:57:04,838 --> 00:57:07,465 I think it started with rock and roll. 1266 00:57:09,092 --> 00:57:10,343 15. I think I was 15. 1267 00:57:10,426 --> 00:57:13,721 I had a couple of beers and I was like woo! Wow! 1268 00:57:15,098 --> 00:57:17,517 And was there alcoholism in the family? 1269 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,854 It's weird because I never met my biological father 1270 00:57:20,937 --> 00:57:23,648 but the father I grew up with definitely an alcoholic. 1271 00:57:23,731 --> 00:57:26,276 Yeah, I mean, he would drink and get drunk at night 1272 00:57:27,735 --> 00:57:31,447 and come into my room and stick a shotgun in my face 1273 00:57:31,531 --> 00:57:33,366 and fucking ask me if I was a man. 1274 00:57:33,449 --> 00:57:36,619 And that was a typical Friday night. 1275 00:57:36,703 --> 00:57:38,121 "What the fuck, you a man?" You know? 1276 00:57:38,204 --> 00:57:42,167 And he was just, he was just, he was a drunk. 1277 00:57:42,250 --> 00:57:43,376 He was a periodic drunk 1278 00:57:43,459 --> 00:57:45,795 because he stayed drunk for like the weekend, 1279 00:57:45,879 --> 00:57:48,798 and then he was a social worker throughout the week. 1280 00:57:54,387 --> 00:57:57,348 So you hit the road with the Dead Kennedy's 1281 00:57:57,432 --> 00:57:58,725 but you hadn't really traveled at that point? 1282 00:57:58,808 --> 00:58:00,018 I hadn't, no, I hadn't been anywhere. 1283 00:58:00,101 --> 00:58:01,144 My first gig was in Sacramento 1284 00:58:01,227 --> 00:58:04,314 and we went across the US 1285 00:58:04,397 --> 00:58:07,692 and we hit the road and fucking people just want to kill you 1286 00:58:07,775 --> 00:58:08,693 for the color of your skin. 1287 00:58:08,776 --> 00:58:11,362 It's insane. It was crazy. 1288 00:58:11,446 --> 00:58:13,656 Everybody's got a right to free speech. 1289 00:58:15,074 --> 00:58:19,245 And this song is about the fucking rednecks 1290 00:58:19,329 --> 00:58:21,247 and the fucking jocks 1291 00:58:21,331 --> 00:58:25,335 who bring in their bullshit macho attitudes to these shows, 1292 00:58:26,502 --> 00:58:27,921 try to wreck 'em 1293 00:58:29,088 --> 00:58:32,175 by starting fights, 1294 00:58:32,258 --> 00:58:35,595 spreading around their bullshit racist attitudes. 1295 00:58:35,678 --> 00:58:39,349 And that just fueled my alcoholism. 1296 00:58:39,432 --> 00:58:40,934 I'm not gonna say that that pushed me into it, 1297 00:58:41,017 --> 00:58:43,561 but it was quite a nudge 1298 00:58:43,645 --> 00:58:46,564 because then I didn't talk as much to people 1299 00:58:46,648 --> 00:58:48,942 about like what's going on internally 1300 00:58:49,025 --> 00:58:50,610 or I definitely didn't talk to anybody in the band. 1301 00:58:50,693 --> 00:58:52,737 Like, "Hey man, you know, I feel scared." 1302 00:58:52,820 --> 00:58:53,780 You know? 1303 00:58:53,863 --> 00:58:54,948 I didn't know you could do that. 1304 00:58:55,031 --> 00:58:58,534 Nazi Redneck assholes fuck off. 1305 00:59:03,831 --> 00:59:05,291 * Nazi punks, Nazi punks * 1306 00:59:05,375 --> 00:59:06,709 * Nazi punks, fuck off * 1307 00:59:06,793 --> 00:59:08,044 * Nazi punks, Nazi punks * 1308 00:59:08,127 --> 00:59:09,796 * Nazi punks, fuck off * 1309 00:59:09,879 --> 00:59:12,590 Okay. So the Dead Kennedy's are done. 1310 00:59:12,674 --> 00:59:13,800 Mm-hmm. 1311 00:59:13,883 --> 00:59:15,593 And now where does your life go? 1312 00:59:15,677 --> 00:59:19,430 I moved to Los Angeles, California 1313 00:59:19,514 --> 00:59:22,308 and we got nothing going on. 1314 00:59:22,392 --> 00:59:25,812 So I'm drinking the morning, drinking in the afternoon. 1315 00:59:25,895 --> 00:59:28,231 Then I joined the Chili Peppers. 1316 00:59:28,314 --> 00:59:32,485 And then that was like trying to hide this facade, 1317 00:59:32,568 --> 00:59:36,489 this guy where I'm trying to hide my addiction. 1318 00:59:36,572 --> 00:59:37,907 * In 1819, we took a little trip * 1319 00:59:37,991 --> 00:59:39,742 * We went on down to the mighty Mississippi * 1320 00:59:39,826 --> 00:59:42,161 * We got a little drunk and we got a little wine * 1321 00:59:42,245 --> 00:59:44,330 * Next thing you know, I was Chili Pepper * 1322 00:59:44,414 --> 00:59:46,666 * Chilling and cooling so fine * 1323 00:59:46,749 --> 00:59:49,794 * Fine * 1324 00:59:49,877 --> 00:59:51,254 * Yeah * 1325 00:59:51,337 --> 00:59:53,506 So I just really leaned into it 1326 00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:56,092 and started fucking shooting dope heavy. 1327 00:59:56,175 --> 00:59:57,844 Like then it was just like nothing mattered. 1328 00:59:57,927 --> 01:00:01,681 And it started a whirlwind of shit. 1329 01:00:01,764 --> 01:00:02,849 Now I'm selling shit. 1330 01:00:02,932 --> 01:00:04,309 Sold the van. 1331 01:00:04,392 --> 01:00:08,104 I had motorcycle, van, classic guitars, muscle car. 1332 01:00:08,187 --> 01:00:10,106 I just sold everything. 1333 01:00:10,189 --> 01:00:13,276 I just didn't give a shit anymore. 1334 01:00:13,359 --> 01:00:15,862 I started getting fucking all these abscesses 1335 01:00:15,945 --> 01:00:17,613 and I went up in the hospital. 1336 01:00:17,697 --> 01:00:20,074 This is the first one, it's about 1337 01:00:21,242 --> 01:00:23,536 it's on my hip, it's about big as your, 1338 01:00:23,619 --> 01:00:25,038 yeah, like my fist. 1339 01:00:25,121 --> 01:00:27,707 You can see that and you can see the whole, 1340 01:00:27,790 --> 01:00:29,792 like you can see your whole hip socket. 1341 01:00:29,876 --> 01:00:33,129 The skin has started to fall away and like getting rotted 1342 01:00:33,212 --> 01:00:35,798 and necrotic and just shit was falling out. 1343 01:00:35,882 --> 01:00:39,719 Like I was really playing in this band, bass, and 1344 01:00:40,928 --> 01:00:43,473 literally a piece of, a chunk of meat just fell 1345 01:00:43,556 --> 01:00:46,476 down my leg and fell out of my pants and on the floor. 1346 01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:48,478 They were like, "Dude, you need to go to the hospital." 1347 01:00:48,561 --> 01:00:51,064 So, I kept bullshitting around. 1348 01:00:51,147 --> 01:00:53,191 I was like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah." 1349 01:00:53,274 --> 01:00:55,401 And I would just wake up in these pools of blood 1350 01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:59,989 with my pants soaked and and just all fucked up. 1351 01:01:00,073 --> 01:01:01,324 Yeah, it ended. 1352 01:01:01,407 --> 01:01:03,242 Shit, the dope just took over. 1353 01:01:03,326 --> 01:01:05,828 And I would think about that, I would go, yeah. 1354 01:01:05,912 --> 01:01:07,413 Wow. That was some times, 1355 01:01:07,497 --> 01:01:09,165 a lot of times and a lot of years 1356 01:01:09,248 --> 01:01:11,542 where I didn't have this food to eat, 1357 01:01:11,626 --> 01:01:14,712 like I literally wouldn't, I just didn't eat 1358 01:01:14,796 --> 01:01:16,422 because I didn't have no money, I didn't have food, 1359 01:01:16,506 --> 01:01:18,508 I spent all the money on dope 1360 01:01:18,591 --> 01:01:21,177 or I'd be in a homeless shelter 1361 01:01:23,304 --> 01:01:25,681 thinking that I'm a rock star. 1362 01:01:25,765 --> 01:01:27,016 I used to be a rockstar. 1363 01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:29,102 What the fuck has happened? 1364 01:01:29,185 --> 01:01:31,354 What the fuck has happened now? 1365 01:01:31,437 --> 01:01:33,731 Now I'm just a fucking homeless piece of shit 1366 01:01:33,815 --> 01:01:36,692 with the rest of these guys, you know? 1367 01:01:36,776 --> 01:01:39,529 So it was, ooh, it was a mixed bag. 1368 01:01:46,285 --> 01:01:47,286 How you doing? 1369 01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:50,581 Ugh! 1370 01:01:50,665 --> 01:01:52,125 I never been better and I never had more. 1371 01:01:52,208 --> 01:01:55,002 It's not as much as the struggle, because 1372 01:01:57,004 --> 01:01:58,923 I gave up the fight. 1373 01:01:59,006 --> 01:02:01,717 But to me, this is all winning. 1374 01:02:01,801 --> 01:02:04,262 And I do nothing but really help people 1375 01:02:04,345 --> 01:02:07,473 more stay sober than not, 1376 01:02:07,557 --> 01:02:08,391 because it just helps me 1377 01:02:08,474 --> 01:02:09,767 because I see new people come in 1378 01:02:09,851 --> 01:02:13,729 and I know where they've been, 1379 01:02:13,813 --> 01:02:15,815 and I know how it feels, 1380 01:02:17,483 --> 01:02:22,488 and I know how it feels to have somebody to reach out 1381 01:02:23,573 --> 01:02:25,158 and say, "Hey, man, you all right? 1382 01:02:25,241 --> 01:02:26,492 Let's get a coffee." 1383 01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:27,910 Like nobody was saying that shit. 1384 01:02:27,994 --> 01:02:29,996 Nobody was saying, "Hey, let's go have coffee. 1385 01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:34,250 Let's go see a movie, let's go hang out." 1386 01:02:35,668 --> 01:02:39,297 I discovered along with my spirituality this whole sense 1387 01:02:39,380 --> 01:02:42,175 of love, 1388 01:02:42,258 --> 01:02:43,759 and self-love and 1389 01:02:45,678 --> 01:02:47,763 love for just fucking mankind. 1390 01:02:49,182 --> 01:02:51,809 I remember just getting sober 1391 01:02:51,893 --> 01:02:55,146 and everything looks so fresh. 1392 01:02:55,229 --> 01:02:56,689 So fresh and so new 1393 01:02:56,772 --> 01:02:59,901 and it's like hitting a restart on your computer. 1394 01:03:04,197 --> 01:03:05,948 Do you love yourself a little more now? 1395 01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:06,866 A little more. 1396 01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:09,869 I love me a little more. 1397 01:03:15,041 --> 01:03:19,170 * I love you, baby * 1398 01:03:19,253 --> 01:03:23,966 * But you gotta understand * 1399 01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:28,304 * When the Lord made me * 1400 01:03:28,387 --> 01:03:32,558 * He made a ramblin' man * 1401 01:03:32,642 --> 01:03:34,477 What those close quarters do 1402 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:35,853 for the comradery of the band. 1403 01:03:35,937 --> 01:03:37,563 It can do one of two things. 1404 01:03:37,647 --> 01:03:39,815 It can fucking make you wanna kill each other 1405 01:03:39,899 --> 01:03:42,860 or it makes you, you know, tight like a family. 1406 01:03:42,944 --> 01:03:44,362 Well, it's both. 1407 01:03:44,445 --> 01:03:45,988 Kind of like a family that wants to kill each other 1408 01:03:46,072 --> 01:03:48,824 is pretty much okay, so if you're in a van 1409 01:03:48,908 --> 01:03:50,326 and someone's annoying you, 1410 01:03:50,409 --> 01:03:54,413 you have to get over it because you can't escape it. 1411 01:03:54,497 --> 01:03:57,166 It's like a marriage of multiple people, 1412 01:03:57,250 --> 01:04:00,753 which in my experience means it's really hard 1413 01:04:00,836 --> 01:04:03,089 to keep on the same track forever. 1414 01:04:04,507 --> 01:04:05,925 I mean, you go through it together and it's hard. 1415 01:04:06,008 --> 01:04:07,760 You go through a lot of shit 1416 01:04:07,843 --> 01:04:09,720 that you don't really think about at the time, 1417 01:04:09,804 --> 01:04:13,891 but in hindsight, yeah, you survived that together. 1418 01:04:13,975 --> 01:04:16,269 So it definitely is a bonding thing 1419 01:04:17,645 --> 01:04:19,939 that you don't even realize that's happening. 1420 01:04:20,022 --> 01:04:21,357 It was incredible. 1421 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,859 It was an ultimate dream for me. 1422 01:04:23,943 --> 01:04:26,529 I had all that discomfort of like getting some weird rash 1423 01:04:26,612 --> 01:04:29,073 because I'd been sweating on a the stage going crazy 1424 01:04:29,156 --> 01:04:31,284 and then you don't shower for six days 1425 01:04:31,367 --> 01:04:33,411 and then the van and everyone's stinks 1426 01:04:33,494 --> 01:04:35,204 and you're fighting and shitting your pants 1427 01:04:35,288 --> 01:04:37,915 and eating the worst food you could ever imagine. 1428 01:04:37,999 --> 01:04:40,626 It's heaven, it's fucking paradise, 1429 01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:42,878 it's the greatest thing you could ever do. 1430 01:04:42,962 --> 01:04:44,755 I just felt like we were just like a roaming 1431 01:04:44,839 --> 01:04:46,090 band of gypsies. 1432 01:04:46,173 --> 01:04:47,800 We show up and we rock you. 1433 01:04:47,883 --> 01:04:50,136 * Rock you * 1434 01:04:51,178 --> 01:04:52,054 You know, we get out of the world 1435 01:04:52,138 --> 01:04:53,431 and we play "Get Up and Jump" 1436 01:04:53,514 --> 01:04:54,890 and "True Men Don't Kill Coyotes" 1437 01:04:54,974 --> 01:04:57,727 and we fucking we do it with every fiber of our being 1438 01:04:57,810 --> 01:05:02,064 as hard as we can every night and it means everything. 1439 01:05:02,148 --> 01:05:03,441 You know what was crazy? 1440 01:05:03,524 --> 01:05:05,735 We always drove home. 1441 01:05:05,818 --> 01:05:08,738 We never stayed in a motel or in a tent. 1442 01:05:08,821 --> 01:05:10,948 We drove home and then we got in the van the next day 1443 01:05:11,032 --> 01:05:12,742 and went to the next gig. 1444 01:05:12,825 --> 01:05:14,327 We were driving from London. 1445 01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:16,912 It's like the coldest day ever in Britain, 1446 01:05:16,996 --> 01:05:20,750 coldest night in Britain, freezing cold, snowing. 1447 01:05:20,833 --> 01:05:22,251 Just the worst. 1448 01:05:22,335 --> 01:05:27,340 And the windshield went and it had the bench seat. 1449 01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:31,093 And so we laid on top of each other, The Beatles. 1450 01:05:31,177 --> 01:05:35,097 And if you got to the top, you had a slug of whiskey 1451 01:05:35,181 --> 01:05:37,350 and then you moved your way down again 1452 01:05:37,433 --> 01:05:39,018 and the next one had a slug 1453 01:05:39,101 --> 01:05:42,521 and that's how we got back home without freezing to death. 1454 01:05:42,605 --> 01:05:45,775 And you think, ah, you know, that's how it is. 1455 01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:55,868 What was it like to be stuck 1456 01:05:55,951 --> 01:05:57,620 in a fucking little van 1457 01:05:57,703 --> 01:06:01,624 with the same four or five dudes for two and half months? 1458 01:06:03,876 --> 01:06:06,045 Well, I mean, you know, it's like a little tribe 1459 01:06:06,128 --> 01:06:08,714 of nomads running around. 1460 01:06:10,132 --> 01:06:13,010 I think it's one of the funnest things you can do. 1461 01:06:13,094 --> 01:06:16,055 Being in a gang, in a band, in a collective, 1462 01:06:16,138 --> 01:06:18,849 in a commune, in a group, whatever fucking word 1463 01:06:18,933 --> 01:06:20,393 you want to attach to it, 1464 01:06:20,476 --> 01:06:22,853 just being with other people and sharing that experience 1465 01:06:22,937 --> 01:06:26,482 with other people, that was paramount to anything. 1466 01:06:26,565 --> 01:06:29,110 Ill never forget there was a guy in the band who, 1467 01:06:30,486 --> 01:06:32,947 I don't know if he had food poisoning or something 1468 01:06:34,490 --> 01:06:39,495 but he was farting the most like noxious, 1469 01:06:40,621 --> 01:06:43,416 like make you want to puke farts. 1470 01:06:44,291 --> 01:06:45,710 And that's just how you live. 1471 01:06:45,793 --> 01:06:48,462 This is just like, I guess this is my new reality is I, 1472 01:06:51,006 --> 01:06:54,510 I sit in a fart van. 1473 01:06:54,593 --> 01:06:56,679 And get to Baltimore and play for the bar staff. 1474 01:06:56,762 --> 01:06:58,681 Like it was awesome. 1475 01:06:58,764 --> 01:07:00,683 Did you know that the Beatles fart? 1476 01:07:00,766 --> 01:07:01,517 No. 1477 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,853 If you fart, admit it. 1478 01:07:07,356 --> 01:07:10,109 in the van, because it causes so much trouble. 1479 01:07:10,192 --> 01:07:13,237 You know, eating curry and then the flatulence 1480 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,572 which followed in the van, 1481 01:07:14,655 --> 01:07:17,700 the fucking pong, get the fuck. 1482 01:07:17,783 --> 01:07:20,035 We had to put the windscreen wipers on, 1483 01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:21,537 sometimes they were that bad. 1484 01:07:21,620 --> 01:07:24,915 And you know when you get fallen over laughter fit 1485 01:07:24,999 --> 01:07:27,209 where you're on the floor just giggling? 1486 01:07:27,293 --> 01:07:28,127 They're so rare. 1487 01:07:28,210 --> 01:07:29,462 And they're sort of special, 1488 01:07:29,545 --> 01:07:31,464 a lot of people it's never happened to, 1489 01:07:31,547 --> 01:07:32,798 it's never happen to them. 1490 01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:34,300 We got levels here, you ready? 1491 01:07:34,383 --> 01:07:36,927 * Hey, don't let it go to waste * 1492 01:07:37,845 --> 01:07:39,472 * But I hate the taste * 1493 01:07:39,555 --> 01:07:42,558 * Weight keepin' me * 1494 01:07:47,688 --> 01:07:51,442 When you get that full done laughing feeling 1495 01:07:51,525 --> 01:07:52,651 and everybody's in, 1496 01:07:52,735 --> 01:07:55,905 you can't even start a word before the, 1497 01:07:55,988 --> 01:07:58,407 you know, everybody's back down again. 1498 01:07:58,491 --> 01:07:59,658 Fucking magic. 1499 01:07:59,742 --> 01:08:02,161 Oh my God, Anthony. 1500 01:08:02,244 --> 01:08:04,288 Oh my God. 1501 01:08:04,371 --> 01:08:05,831 Take the fucking picture. 1502 01:08:07,249 --> 01:08:08,501 Oh! 1503 01:08:08,584 --> 01:08:09,418 When you're in a band, 1504 01:08:09,502 --> 01:08:10,795 especially like you're in a van, 1505 01:08:10,878 --> 01:08:12,755 like you know, everyone's pissing you off, 1506 01:08:12,838 --> 01:08:15,257 but you really fall in love with everyone too. 1507 01:08:15,341 --> 01:08:16,759 You know? 1508 01:08:16,842 --> 01:08:19,261 And you show up and it's just that feeling of like, 1509 01:08:19,345 --> 01:08:21,931 you know, we're gonna fucking explode. 1510 01:08:22,014 --> 01:08:23,140 Like we're gonna up there and I'm gonna go up there 1511 01:08:23,224 --> 01:08:25,267 and I'm gonna explode, you know? 1512 01:08:25,351 --> 01:08:28,270 'Cause I know this like tense boiled, 1513 01:08:28,354 --> 01:08:32,441 this ball, tightly coiled up inside of me all my life. 1514 01:08:32,525 --> 01:08:35,528 And it was like all of a sudden I found a way 1515 01:08:35,611 --> 01:08:38,531 where, you know, 'cause I had felt in so many ways 1516 01:08:38,614 --> 01:08:39,782 growing up like lesser than 1517 01:08:39,865 --> 01:08:42,451 and I was always small and little and skinny 1518 01:08:42,535 --> 01:08:45,287 and I was scared of girls and I was weird 1519 01:08:45,371 --> 01:08:47,456 and like a jazz nerd and you know what I mean? 1520 01:08:47,540 --> 01:08:49,458 Like but I found this thing and it was a place 1521 01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:51,627 where not only like all this like tension inside me, 1522 01:08:51,710 --> 01:08:53,379 that I could release it, 1523 01:08:53,462 --> 01:08:56,549 but also that I was discovering myself, 1524 01:08:56,632 --> 01:08:58,384 I was discovering my identity. 1525 01:08:58,467 --> 01:09:02,638 And I realize it not only was like selfish, 1526 01:09:02,721 --> 01:09:04,974 like I'm able to release all this stuff, 1527 01:09:05,057 --> 01:09:06,642 but I was looking at people 1528 01:09:06,725 --> 01:09:09,228 who are right there in front of me and they were happy. 1529 01:09:09,311 --> 01:09:11,063 When we were doing those van tours, 1530 01:09:11,146 --> 01:09:13,148 it was us against the world. 1531 01:09:13,232 --> 01:09:15,401 So we would hit the stage in between 1532 01:09:15,484 --> 01:09:18,237 those fucking long drives. 1533 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,531 And even if we're playing for 10 people or 15 people 1534 01:09:20,614 --> 01:09:22,032 or 30 people, 1535 01:09:22,116 --> 01:09:25,494 you just hit the stage and it's like this is what I do. 1536 01:09:25,578 --> 01:09:27,496 This is what we do together. 1537 01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:28,914 You're waiting for those moments. 1538 01:09:28,998 --> 01:09:30,666 I always say like life is just waiting for those moments 1539 01:09:30,749 --> 01:09:32,001 to get back on stage. 1540 01:09:32,084 --> 01:09:34,211 Everything else is kind of passing the time. 1541 01:09:43,762 --> 01:09:46,473 And you get on stage now 1542 01:09:47,933 --> 01:09:49,894 do you still get the same feeling you had 1543 01:09:49,977 --> 01:09:51,437 the first time that you got on stage? 1544 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,188 Yeah, absolutely. 1545 01:09:53,272 --> 01:09:55,357 You can't be in a rock and roll band and say, 1546 01:09:55,441 --> 01:09:57,693 "Well, I've got three gigs this weekend. 1547 01:09:59,111 --> 01:10:02,031 I'll take it easy tonight and save me energy." 1548 01:10:02,114 --> 01:10:04,199 You can't, it's impossible. 1549 01:10:04,283 --> 01:10:07,286 You have to go till your throat's dead. 1550 01:10:07,369 --> 01:10:08,203 You know? 1551 01:10:08,287 --> 01:10:11,206 And even then, make an attempt. 1552 01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:12,708 And the crowd love you all the more for it 1553 01:10:12,791 --> 01:10:15,294 'cause you're not giving up or wimping out. 1554 01:10:15,377 --> 01:10:19,924 You go on with it otherwise it's not rock and roll anymore. 1555 01:10:20,007 --> 01:10:24,970 It's somebody attempting to be rock and roll. 1556 01:10:26,221 --> 01:10:27,765 Growing up, like going to see a band live 1557 01:10:27,848 --> 01:10:29,642 was the way you connected with them. 1558 01:10:29,725 --> 01:10:31,894 Now you can connect with them in so many different ways 1559 01:10:31,977 --> 01:10:33,979 and everyone's connecting with so many different things. 1560 01:10:34,063 --> 01:10:37,650 It's all just like, there's so much stuff going on. 1561 01:10:37,733 --> 01:10:41,779 I just think it's just, it's changed so much. 1562 01:10:41,862 --> 01:10:43,405 So now there's a lot of live streaming 1563 01:10:43,489 --> 01:10:45,491 and you can watch concerts at home. 1564 01:10:45,574 --> 01:10:48,160 You don't have to go to a fucking concert. 1565 01:10:48,243 --> 01:10:52,456 I not only accept the technology and where it's gone, 1566 01:10:52,539 --> 01:10:54,333 but I actually love it. 1567 01:11:09,181 --> 01:11:11,934 It's a completely different playing field now. 1568 01:11:12,017 --> 01:11:14,353 There's so many different ways of trying to see 1569 01:11:14,436 --> 01:11:17,773 if this new sort of, 1570 01:11:17,856 --> 01:11:19,525 with the way the technology's working out 1571 01:11:19,608 --> 01:11:22,361 to get it to hit an audience, to make it work. 1572 01:11:22,444 --> 01:11:23,278 You know? 1573 01:11:26,532 --> 01:11:28,784 It like started with like you listen to one thing 1574 01:11:28,867 --> 01:11:30,619 from your parents and then there's YouTube, 1575 01:11:30,703 --> 01:11:32,705 which is like you go down 1576 01:11:32,788 --> 01:11:37,126 and you can see every concert from like 1977 or whatever. 1577 01:11:37,209 --> 01:11:38,711 And then it branches off 1578 01:11:38,794 --> 01:11:39,962 and you find out- 1579 01:11:40,045 --> 01:11:41,880 Other bands. Other bands yourself. 1580 01:11:41,964 --> 01:11:44,133 But it just makes you want to be there. 1581 01:11:44,216 --> 01:11:45,718 * Fire * 1582 01:11:45,801 --> 01:11:48,304 * To begin whipping dance of the dead * 1583 01:11:48,387 --> 01:11:50,639 * Blackened is the end * 1584 01:11:50,723 --> 01:11:53,809 * To begin whipping dance of the dead * 1585 01:11:53,892 --> 01:11:55,310 * Fire * 1586 01:11:55,394 --> 01:11:58,147 * Is the outcome of hypocrisy * 1587 01:11:58,230 --> 01:12:00,399 * Darkest potency * 1588 01:12:00,482 --> 01:12:03,193 * In the exit of humanity * 1589 01:12:03,277 --> 01:12:05,571 * Color our world blackened * 1590 01:12:05,654 --> 01:12:07,990 * Blackened * 1591 01:12:13,162 --> 01:12:15,748 Music can change the world in some way. 1592 01:12:15,831 --> 01:12:18,250 Maybe if it's on an individual basis, 1593 01:12:18,333 --> 01:12:20,252 just a couple of people, 1594 01:12:20,335 --> 01:12:23,213 but it will actually change somebody 1595 01:12:23,297 --> 01:12:24,923 and it did in my case. 1596 01:12:27,843 --> 01:12:29,011 Ladies and gentlemen! 1597 01:12:30,929 --> 01:12:34,850 A warm welcome please from Dublin, Ireland, U2! 1598 01:12:40,689 --> 01:12:43,942 This connection with the live audience- 1599 01:12:44,026 --> 01:12:45,069 Good evening! 1600 01:12:45,152 --> 01:12:47,529 Really taught us everything we just know 1601 01:12:47,613 --> 01:12:49,281 about being in a band. 1602 01:12:49,364 --> 01:12:52,284 Without the experience of growing up 1603 01:12:52,367 --> 01:12:55,621 playing small little clubs and learning how to do it, 1604 01:12:55,704 --> 01:12:57,790 I don't think our band would've made it. 1605 01:12:57,873 --> 01:13:00,084 I don't think it would be anything like it is now. 1606 01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:07,466 You can't put it in words what the energy, 1607 01:13:07,549 --> 01:13:10,135 it's a whole different thing that you can't describe 1608 01:13:10,219 --> 01:13:12,137 when you're actually watching a band that you love 1609 01:13:12,221 --> 01:13:14,473 in the room versus watching in on screen. 1610 01:13:14,556 --> 01:13:17,476 It's just a different experience as we know. 1611 01:13:17,559 --> 01:13:18,811 What happens in your ears, 1612 01:13:18,894 --> 01:13:20,479 what happens through your eyes, 1613 01:13:20,562 --> 01:13:22,648 what happens to your body 1614 01:13:22,731 --> 01:13:24,399 in that energy in the room, right? 1615 01:13:24,483 --> 01:13:28,070 It's just, it's a completely different experience 1616 01:13:28,153 --> 01:13:32,491 that I'm so grateful that I got to see all these bands 1617 01:13:32,574 --> 01:13:33,742 for so many years. 1618 01:13:33,826 --> 01:13:35,327 All these bands that I love so much. 1619 01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:38,455 You say, one, two, three. Do it! 1620 01:13:38,539 --> 01:13:41,583 One, two, three! 1621 01:13:45,045 --> 01:13:47,256 To have people, to see people singing 1622 01:13:47,339 --> 01:13:48,757 songs that we wrote in the studio 1623 01:13:48,841 --> 01:13:51,677 and because we were in a good mood and having a good time, 1624 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,303 that's so great. 1625 01:13:53,387 --> 01:13:55,848 I think that's the for me. 1626 01:13:55,931 --> 01:13:58,433 * Yeah * 1627 01:14:10,863 --> 01:14:12,281 Who've I've become by not growing up 1628 01:14:12,364 --> 01:14:16,201 is much bigger than anyone's ever become growing up. 1629 01:14:16,285 --> 01:14:18,036 Do you ever think that sometimes 1630 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,538 when you're playing on stage, 1631 01:14:19,621 --> 01:14:22,040 I can't believe I'm getting paid for this right now? 1632 01:14:22,124 --> 01:14:23,375 Every- Like this is- 1633 01:14:23,458 --> 01:14:24,543 Everyday. 1634 01:14:39,766 --> 01:14:40,601 Okay. 1635 01:14:43,979 --> 01:14:44,813 Guess what? 1636 01:14:49,151 --> 01:14:52,738 This is exactly what I fucking hoped would happen right now. 1637 01:14:55,282 --> 01:14:57,701 Dan, light 'em up, I got to see 'em. 1638 01:14:57,784 --> 01:14:59,745 Hey, Glastonbury! 1639 01:14:59,828 --> 01:15:00,662 Hey! 1640 01:15:03,916 --> 01:15:05,709 Thank you so much, you guys, 1641 01:15:05,792 --> 01:15:07,085 it's a been a beautiful evening. 1642 01:15:09,129 --> 01:15:11,006 I remember the great shows that I've been to. 1643 01:15:11,089 --> 01:15:12,841 They changed my life, you know? 1644 01:15:12,925 --> 01:15:14,676 The Clash changed my life. 1645 01:15:16,178 --> 01:15:19,514 * Oh * 1646 01:15:19,598 --> 01:15:23,018 * Darling, you got to let me know * 1647 01:15:23,101 --> 01:15:24,686 * Should I stay or should I go * 1648 01:15:24,770 --> 01:15:26,772 You see a lot of acts that are just taking 1649 01:15:26,855 --> 01:15:27,940 what they did in the studio 1650 01:15:28,023 --> 01:15:29,399 and leading that to a stage 1651 01:15:29,483 --> 01:15:32,277 and expecting that that's going to work and it doesn't. 1652 01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:36,365 So there's something about the live concerts that, you know, 1653 01:15:36,448 --> 01:15:40,536 the honesty of it that you can't hide. 1654 01:15:40,619 --> 01:15:44,456 That is the reason I think that people go to shows. 1655 01:15:44,539 --> 01:15:45,958 * Hello, hello * 1656 01:15:46,041 --> 01:15:47,376 * Hola * 1657 01:15:47,459 --> 01:15:49,795 * I'm at a place called Vertigo * 1658 01:15:49,878 --> 01:15:51,421 They don't go to shows 1659 01:15:51,505 --> 01:15:53,799 to hear the music they hear on the radio. 1660 01:15:53,882 --> 01:15:56,385 They want to see something different 1661 01:15:56,468 --> 01:16:00,722 and something compelling, something that is going to connect 1662 01:16:00,806 --> 01:16:01,974 with them in a deep way. 1663 01:16:02,057 --> 01:16:04,393 And I think the best acts do that, 1664 01:16:04,476 --> 01:16:07,145 but they're the ones that have paid their dues. 1665 01:16:08,313 --> 01:16:10,399 I wanna hear you sing! 1666 01:16:10,482 --> 01:16:14,278 * There goes my hero * 1667 01:16:14,361 --> 01:16:17,572 * Watch him as he goes * 1668 01:16:17,656 --> 01:16:19,241 That's what we are. 1669 01:16:19,324 --> 01:16:21,994 We share are love through music. 1670 01:16:23,161 --> 01:16:27,332 * There goes my hero * 1671 01:16:27,416 --> 01:16:30,252 * He's ordinary * 1672 01:16:30,335 --> 01:16:31,586 It's satisfying. 1673 01:16:31,670 --> 01:16:35,757 Something deep in my soul that helps me 1674 01:16:37,259 --> 01:16:40,012 live. * There goes my hero * 1675 01:16:40,095 --> 01:16:42,931 * Watch him as he goes * 1676 01:16:43,015 --> 01:16:48,020 It's 2019 and the biggest rock bands in the world, 1677 01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:51,440 all the same biggest rock bands in the world 1678 01:16:51,523 --> 01:16:56,528 that were, you know, 1999 or 1989, you know, 1679 01:16:57,237 --> 01:16:58,697 Guns and Roses and AC/DC 1680 01:16:58,780 --> 01:17:03,368 and Iron Maiden and Aerosmith and you guys and us and so on. 1681 01:17:04,536 --> 01:17:06,288 I mean, that's the fucking crazy thing. 1682 01:17:06,371 --> 01:17:10,417 And so I think there's a whole bunch of conversations about 1683 01:17:11,626 --> 01:17:15,380 why has that not changed? 1684 01:17:15,464 --> 01:17:16,673 It's funny because Thom Yorke 1685 01:17:16,757 --> 01:17:18,675 brought that point up to me as well. 1686 01:17:18,759 --> 01:17:19,634 What is that? 1687 01:17:19,718 --> 01:17:20,844 Well, he just said it was like, 1688 01:17:20,927 --> 01:17:22,346 'cause there's so few of us left 1689 01:17:22,429 --> 01:17:25,140 that can go play big places all over the world, right? 1690 01:17:25,223 --> 01:17:28,060 We can go fill up arenas, stadiums, all over the fucking. 1691 01:17:28,143 --> 01:17:29,811 At a certain point, like in the 90s 1692 01:17:29,895 --> 01:17:33,690 or late 90s or something, it's like they put up a big fence 1693 01:17:33,774 --> 01:17:35,901 or they drew a line or made a big wall 1694 01:17:35,984 --> 01:17:37,694 and all of us that were on one side of the wall 1695 01:17:37,778 --> 01:17:39,821 got to do it for the rest of our lives, 1696 01:17:39,905 --> 01:17:41,907 and no one else can come in. 1697 01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:44,826 And has anyone else come in, in 20 years? Rock band? 1698 01:17:46,453 --> 01:17:47,829 Is there one? 1699 01:17:47,913 --> 01:17:51,708 I mean, I might be missing it, but, no, right? 1700 01:17:51,792 --> 01:17:53,502 Why do you do this to yourself? 1701 01:17:53,585 --> 01:17:55,170 Why do you punish yourself that much? 1702 01:17:55,253 --> 01:17:56,088 Punish myself? Yeah. 1703 01:17:56,171 --> 01:17:57,506 You're talking about punishment. 1704 01:17:57,589 --> 01:17:58,673 Yeah. 1705 01:17:58,757 --> 01:18:00,509 I don't see the punishment. 1706 01:18:00,592 --> 01:18:03,345 Well, the enormous volume of music, 1707 01:18:03,428 --> 01:18:05,889 the enormous amount of energy that you take 1708 01:18:05,972 --> 01:18:07,099 and that you give. 1709 01:18:07,182 --> 01:18:08,892 That's not punishment. That's pleasure. 1710 01:18:08,975 --> 01:18:10,102 Is it pleasure? Yeah. 1711 01:18:10,185 --> 01:18:12,020 We're a band based on the pleasure principle. 1712 01:18:12,104 --> 01:18:13,230 And when I go out there 1713 01:18:13,313 --> 01:18:14,689 and when I go out there with my best friends 1714 01:18:14,773 --> 01:18:16,692 and we make beautiful music that is sacred to us, 1715 01:18:16,775 --> 01:18:20,779 that's nothing but ultimate glorious euphoria. 1716 01:18:20,862 --> 01:18:22,948 There is no pain when you're on stage, 1717 01:18:23,031 --> 01:18:24,783 the pain comes during life 1718 01:18:24,866 --> 01:18:26,284 and that's a place to fucking exorcize the pain 1719 01:18:26,368 --> 01:18:27,911 out of your body. 1720 01:18:27,994 --> 01:18:29,454 You have to want it. 1721 01:18:29,538 --> 01:18:30,956 You really have to want it 1722 01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:33,625 and you've just got to go through the tough times 1723 01:18:33,708 --> 01:18:35,085 because it will be tough. 1724 01:18:35,168 --> 01:18:36,628 You're not gonna get an easy ride. That's for sure. 1725 01:18:36,711 --> 01:18:40,382 It's hard and it's arduous and it's fun as fuck. 1726 01:18:40,465 --> 01:18:42,717 When you're at a certain age 1727 01:18:42,801 --> 01:18:46,263 and you find something beautiful that you love, 1728 01:18:46,346 --> 01:18:48,140 go for it with everything you've got, 1729 01:18:48,223 --> 01:18:50,392 because it will serve you your entire life. 1730 01:18:50,475 --> 01:18:53,895 Do you ever feel like giving up and going home? 1731 01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:54,813 Never. 1732 01:18:56,064 --> 01:18:58,233 Never, never give up. 1733 01:18:58,316 --> 01:19:00,026 Do you ever want to quit? 1734 01:19:01,528 --> 01:19:02,654 No. 1735 01:19:02,737 --> 01:19:04,072 That's crazy. No. 1736 01:19:04,156 --> 01:19:05,740 Do you ever feel like giving up? 1737 01:19:05,824 --> 01:19:07,993 No. 1738 01:19:09,161 --> 01:19:11,997 The guys I was in the van with 20 years ago 1739 01:19:13,373 --> 01:19:14,750 are still my band. 1740 01:19:16,418 --> 01:19:18,128 And I don't know if they would be 1741 01:19:18,211 --> 01:19:21,256 if we didn't have that experience together. 1742 01:19:21,339 --> 01:19:22,632 There's no greater gift 1743 01:19:22,716 --> 01:19:25,260 than to have your little crew 1744 01:19:26,386 --> 01:19:28,680 and you're in your boat, working the town. 1745 01:19:30,015 --> 01:19:32,768 I really love it. I really love it. 1746 01:19:33,935 --> 01:19:35,270 Our records have never gone out of print. 1747 01:19:35,353 --> 01:19:38,231 We're still this real band, still touring. 1748 01:19:39,524 --> 01:19:41,610 Still playing to young people or old people 1749 01:19:41,693 --> 01:19:43,111 and all kinds of people. 1750 01:19:43,195 --> 01:19:46,448 It's amazing. It's like a wow thing every night to me. 1751 01:19:46,531 --> 01:19:49,075 And we still tour in a van. 1752 01:19:50,035 --> 01:19:52,287 We have two vans now. 1753 01:19:52,370 --> 01:19:54,789 What is it that keeps you going? 1754 01:19:54,873 --> 01:19:57,292 Jazz musicians would just fucking die on stage. 1755 01:19:59,127 --> 01:20:01,796 There doesn't have to be an end to touring. 1756 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,798 There doesn't have to be an end to playing. 1757 01:20:03,882 --> 01:20:05,926 At the end of the day, 1758 01:20:07,052 --> 01:20:09,721 playing music, and fucking writing songs 1759 01:20:10,764 --> 01:20:12,474 is what I love to do. 1760 01:20:12,557 --> 01:20:14,142 It's my favorite thing to do. 1761 01:20:14,226 --> 01:20:17,187 Like for me, the answer is, it's simple, 1762 01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:20,190 and it's love and that's the only answer. 1763 01:20:20,273 --> 01:20:22,817 If you had advice for the next generation of kids, 1764 01:20:22,901 --> 01:20:25,153 because I know that you want to pass it on. 1765 01:20:25,237 --> 01:20:26,571 Yes. 1766 01:20:26,655 --> 01:20:29,074 What would you tell the next generation? 1767 01:20:31,493 --> 01:20:34,829 Be sincere about what you're listening to. 1768 01:20:34,913 --> 01:20:38,500 And love what you're trying to do. 1769 01:20:38,583 --> 01:20:40,835 that's what I would tell 'em. 1770 01:20:40,919 --> 01:20:44,005 What you tell 'em? I'd like to know. 1771 01:20:44,089 --> 01:20:45,715 If we come back, will you come back? 1772 01:20:45,799 --> 01:20:47,384 'Cause if you come back, we'll come back. 1773 01:20:47,467 --> 01:20:48,426 That's the way it works. 1774 01:20:52,264 --> 01:20:53,014 cool. 1775 01:20:54,849 --> 01:20:55,684 I like that. 1776 01:20:57,018 --> 01:20:59,271 That means nobody has to say goodbye 1777 01:20:59,354 --> 01:21:01,523 'cause we'll see each other again sometime. 1778 01:21:03,650 --> 01:21:05,277 So we never say goodbye. 1779 01:21:06,862 --> 01:21:09,114 We just say this. 1780 01:21:15,787 --> 01:21:18,206 You just play till you die. 1781 01:21:19,207 --> 01:21:21,126 What else you gonna do? 1782 01:21:28,216 --> 01:21:30,302 Here we go! Ah! 1783 01:21:34,222 --> 01:21:36,391 It's really important to find your thing. 1784 01:21:37,559 --> 01:21:40,437 It might take awhile but it'll happen. 1785 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,273 * Hello * 1786 01:21:43,356 --> 01:21:47,485 * I've waited here for you * 1787 01:21:47,569 --> 01:21:51,448 * Everlong * 1788 01:21:51,531 --> 01:21:53,992 * Tonight * 1789 01:21:54,075 --> 01:21:58,121 * I throw myself into * 1790 01:21:58,204 --> 01:21:59,664 * And out of the red * 1791 01:21:59,748 --> 01:22:00,498 * Out of her head * 1792 01:22:00,582 --> 01:22:02,167 Here we go! 1793 01:22:02,250 --> 01:22:05,086 I would just say get in a band and do it, you know? 1794 01:22:06,755 --> 01:22:09,341 It's the only way to make it happen. 1795 01:22:09,424 --> 01:22:14,429 * Come down and waste away with me * 1796 01:22:15,930 --> 01:22:19,601 * Down with me * 1797 01:22:19,684 --> 01:22:24,689 * Slow, how you wanted it to be * 1798 01:22:26,274 --> 01:22:27,692 * I'm over my head * 1799 01:22:27,776 --> 01:22:28,693 * Out of her head * 1800 01:22:28,777 --> 01:22:30,028 All right, here we go! 1801 01:22:30,111 --> 01:22:31,613 I think I would say do shows. 1802 01:22:31,696 --> 01:22:33,782 Get out in front of a live audience. 1803 01:22:33,865 --> 01:22:35,116 It's so informative 1804 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:40,121 and also making that connection with an audience is, 1805 01:22:41,289 --> 01:22:42,624 I think that's what makes a great band. 1806 01:22:42,707 --> 01:22:47,712 * If anything could ever be this good again * 1807 01:22:48,797 --> 01:22:51,800 * The only thing I'll ever ask of you * 1808 01:22:51,883 --> 01:22:56,554 * You've got to promise not to stop when I say when * 1809 01:22:56,638 --> 01:22:57,806 * She sang * 1810 01:22:57,889 --> 01:23:00,558 You have to be completely committed 1811 01:23:00,642 --> 01:23:04,145 and willing to fucking go through hell and high water 1812 01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:05,146 to put it lightly. 1813 01:23:06,231 --> 01:23:08,191 Yeah, if you can't breathe without doing it 1814 01:23:08,274 --> 01:23:10,360 then you're in the right place. 1815 01:23:10,443 --> 01:23:11,653 Really think about it 1816 01:23:11,736 --> 01:23:13,655 and say am I allowing to give up everything? 1817 01:23:13,738 --> 01:23:14,656 How am I gear taken? 1818 01:23:14,739 --> 01:23:16,533 Have my guitar taken? 1819 01:23:16,616 --> 01:23:20,078 Lose it all for this dream. 1820 01:23:20,161 --> 01:23:23,665 Be yourself and brace who you are, 1821 01:23:23,748 --> 01:23:27,585 and the greatest tragedy that could ever be 1822 01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:30,505 is not singing your song that's inside you. 1823 01:23:33,007 --> 01:23:35,593 * And she sang * 1824 01:23:40,140 --> 01:23:41,766 Your connecting to the music, 1825 01:23:41,850 --> 01:23:44,561 you're connecting to your fellow band members 1826 01:23:44,644 --> 01:23:48,189 and you're connecting to the audience. 1827 01:23:48,273 --> 01:23:51,192 That to me, is what keeps me alive. 1828 01:23:52,193 --> 01:23:53,945 Are you ready!? 1829 01:23:54,028 --> 01:23:55,947 Let's fucking go. 1830 01:23:56,030 --> 01:23:56,823 Ah! 1831 01:23:59,117 --> 01:24:04,122 * If everything could ever feel this real forever * 1832 01:24:05,290 --> 01:24:09,961 * If anything could ever be this good again * 1833 01:24:11,129 --> 01:24:13,923 * The only thing I'll ever ask of you * 1834 01:24:14,007 --> 01:24:19,012 * You've got to promise not to stop when I say when * 1835 01:24:50,710 --> 01:24:51,920 You gotta get in the van 1836 01:24:52,003 --> 01:24:54,506 if you want to make it in this business. 1837 01:24:57,506 --> 01:25:01,506 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 138600

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