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JUDGE: You are charged that you did unlawfully procure and supply

a poison or other noxious thing, knowing that the same

was to be unlawfully used or employed with the intent

to procure the miscarriage of Orla Healy, contrary to Section 59

of the Offences against the Person Act 1861.

BABY COOS A little bit more?

SHE GASPS Oh, there you go! That's your favourite, isn't it?

Wee bit more? BABY CRIES OUT

I know, I know! Yum! Yum, yum, yum!

Good boy!

You'll not want to be late, today of all days.

Would you stop hassling me?

I'm not going to be late, for God's sakes!

When am I ever late? When are you ever not?

Look, OK, it's geography, I know you hate it,

but it's the last exam. You'll be done by dinner time,

and then you'll be free for the whole summer.

Stop fussing me!

Will we have pizza tonight? You know, cos we're celebrating?

Orla!

Morning.

BABY CRIES

Han? TOILET FLUSHES

Hannah?

You're not going to work?

I'm never as late as I look.

There are two sorts of women in this world -

ones who are dying for their periods to come

and ones who are dying for it not to.

Oh, please don't tell me we've got to keep trying.

THEY LAUGH

SHE LAUGHS Get in that shower, stinky boy!

No obvious reason. I'm taking my folic acid and my vitamins.

And eating your green leafies? Both of yous?

Frozen peas don't count, do they? SHE LAUGHS

My daughter swore by yoga. SHE LAUGHS

No, don't laugh! Anything that helps you relax, I suppose.

Well, I've tried everything else.

It'll happen for you.

I know it will.

You'll make such a lovely mum.

ON PHONE: But you managed to get her out of bed.

Ach, I don't think she had much sleep last night.

Did you not hear that awful music playing in the wee hours?

And did you not listen to miserable romantic rubbish

when you were her age? I listened to Kylie Minogue.

HE LAUGHS I wish you hadn't told me that.

Cooee! I'll catch you later.

All right. Perfect timing, though I say it myself.

Thanks, Mummy. No, you leave all that for me, love.

GASPS: We'll get your mummy organised! What a lovely boy!

There's new bananas in the bowl there today.

Ach, I brought me own, just in case.

We know your mummy and the shopping, don't we, love? Oh!

Right, OK. I'll see you later.

Bye-bye! Bye-bye!

Morning, morning! Morning, Theresa!

She's really good, my mummy - and God knows I need the help...

But she lets you know how lucky you are. Yep. Loud and clear.

I feel guilty saying it to anyone but you.

SIGHS: When it comes to mothers,

where does feeling guilty ever get us, huh?

THEY LAUGH Don't answer that.

I actually heard from my boy last night. Oh, that's great!

You must be so relieved. Yeah.

Where's he got to now? Somewhere in Thailand that I can't pronounce.

Safe and sound, though?

I'm his mother. I don't even go there.

You heard anything from her?

Just a text - "Meetin' my friends, back later."

Well, I'm going to take that to mean...

..nothing to worry about.

This idea that I'm the only one round here who ever worries...

HE LAUGHS

TV IN BACKGROUND

Oh! He loves watching the news, though God only knows why.

Hey, you. Oh! Hello, little boy!

DOOR OPENS, SHUTS Orla?

I'll see you tomorrow.

Thanks, Mummy. Bye! See you later!

I remember what it was like -

just sitting in that room, staring at that bit of paper

and the teacher saying, "Turn over, you may begin,"

and...my mind just going blank!

I mean, the words, the questions - it was all double Dutch!

So don't be worrying, OK?

Hm?

I'm pregnant.

You sure? Yeah.

He won't leave me alone.

He says he loves me.

So he'll stand by you, then?

WHISPERS: Hey.

We getting a bit late for them pizzas? Er, no, no. You go ahead.

You put them in. She's back. She's fine. Sounds fine.

But, you know... Stop fussin' with Mummy.

15 minutes, ladies! Yeah.

Don't tell him.

Promise.

Well... Can't it just be you and me again?

What are you doing?

Girls like me go to England, don't they? It's what they do.

A thousand girls a year. It says so here.

We've never even been to England.

Where would we get that kind of money?

I mean, there'll be flights on top of that.

And...

..abortion is a sin, Orla.

It's a mortal sin.

That's so easy to say....

..until it happens to you.

So you took him back, then?

Yeah.

That much of an idiot.

But it's over now?

That's me trying to run away.

Jesus Christ!

When I told him...

..he said he'd kick it out of me.

He said he'd stab me the day that it was born.

He says I've got to get rid of it.

Says he'll tell everybody I'm a slag.

Please don't say anything, please don't.

Please.

I can say I'll help you.

And I can say I love you.

I'm SO ashamed.

What's going on?

Nothing.

Exams. We're... We're done.

We're done.

I like the middle one. Don't say you can't tell the difference.

I like yellow. I don't hold with all the pink and blue stuff.

No, me neither.

OK, so I won't start knitting before I actually fall pregnant...

Whatever you want is fine with me.

I never knew it was possible to want anything this much.

SHE GASPS, LAUGHS No!

NEWSREADER: It's one of the most restrictive abortion laws

in the world.

Anyone who illegally terminates a pregnancy in Northern Ireland

could be sent to prison for life.

Marie Stopes is the only private clinic

to offer abortion advice in Belfast.

And every day since it opened, protesters have gathered outside...

I am just behind that woman with the dark hair. Let me see.

No, I've gone!

Theresa, come and see this. In a wee bit.

You should stand near the front next time, Louise.

SHE GASPS Look, there's Deirdre. Yeah, and Annemarie.

There's a dozen or more of us from church.

Do the mothers of these girls not know what they get up to?

Or do they not care? It's not a young girl's kind of thing.

Grown women come to that place, women old enough to know better.

It's just shameful. OK, I think we're done here, aren't we? Ah!

Good boy! Let's get you home.

Good boy!

There we go. Thanks, Mum.

Bye-bye! Love, if you have still a gap between 10.00 and 11.00,

the product shelf's looking a bit thin.

Theresa?

Oh! He's just gorgeous.

They grow up so fast. Hm. Blink and you miss it, eh?

Oh, don't forget, I have to leave at half one today.

CHANTING: Say yes to life, say yes to life, say yes to life...!

CHANTING CONTINUES, GETS LOUDER

So, there's no days when you don't have the protesters outside?

ON PHONE: We have a team of trained volunteers

to escort you past them if that's a service you'd like.

I don't... I don't know. DOOR OPENS

Theresa! If you've got a wee minute,

this is really starting to get on my nerves.

Yeah, sit yourself down, Mummy.

I'll get it!

Yeah, just bills.

Right.

This one now and four of these tomorrow.

Ach, love.

Would it be so bad?

We already have one baby in the house.

You wouldn't be on your own.

You know, it might even be fun to watch them grow up together.

I want a life, Ma.

I want to do my A-levels. I want to go to university.

You know? I don't want...

A life like mine.

MOBILE VIBRATES

You're not still in touch with him?

He's still in touch with me. Can you not switch your phone off?!

If I go through with this...

..I'll have him out of my life forever.

Dear God!

This is a huge thing,

a terrible thing. You mustn't do it just cos it's what he wants.

It's what I want, Ma.

I'm doing it for me.

Thank you.

38, 39, 40,

41, 42, 43, 44,

45, 46, 47,

48, 49,

50, 51, 52,

53, 54, 55,

56, 57

58, 59, 60.

SHE SQUEALS, LAUGHS

SHE SQUEALS Really?

HE LAUGHS Oh, my God!

Oh, my God. THEY LAUGH

You're not telling anyone. Not till we're sure.

But I saw the blue line for myself. 12 weeks.

Whenever I'm 12 weeks, you can tell the whole world.

What if I'm a rubbish da?

I'll divorce you. SHE LAUGHS

Sure, everyone will know anyway. I mean, look at the face on you!

SHE LAUGHS

Two coffees, mate. Thank you.

What happened to waiting till 12 weeks?

I never told her, she guessed! A total stranger?

SHE CHUCKLES

THEY SIGH

SHE CHUCKLES

YELLING

Argh!

Sh, you're OK. Argh!

You're OK. SHE GROANS

Sh, Orla, sh.

Oh, my God! You're OK.

Oh, my... You're OK. Argh!

SHE GROANS Oh, my God, oh, my God!

Darling, you have to sh. SHE CALLS OUT

It's just bad dreams. I'm not ill, I don't need to see a doctor.

You shouldn't still be bleeding.

Why does he have to know anyway?

I don't want anyone to know.

He's your doctor, who's he going to tell?

It's all confidential.

Pills from the internet, I see.

And you took these pills how long ago?

Eight. Nine.

Nine days ago.

Mifepristone and misoprostol -

it's powerful drugs for an underage girl to take

without a prescription from a doctor.

Dr O'Brien, please, can you not just give her something?

Even just to stop the poor wee girl from bleeding.

I'm going to refer you to the gynaecology clinic, Orla.

And for the nightmares and the anxiety,

we might also want to consider getting you checked out

by the adolescent mental health team.

Thank you.

Counselling?!

It's a kind offer. You've been through a lot.

It's over. I don't want it to keep coming back to haunt me.

WOMAN: Morning, ladies!

WHISPERING: Jesus. Great.

Hi, gorgeous Orla! Long time, no see.

I know, it's just with school and everything...

Oh. Bet you're looking forward to the summer -

got loads of lovely plans, aye?

We have plans to rest up after all these god-forsaken exams, eh?

You must be exhausted.

Is that why you've been to the doctor, aye?

No, no. Just a wee sore throat.

Well, don't be giving it to me, now. THEY CHUCKLE

See you later. See you later. Bye! Bye.

Who'd be a person with a secret in a place like this?

Come on.

There's your baby's heartbeat. HEART BEATS ON SCREEN

God, it's really happening!

I can't be sure of the sex at 12 weeks.

Oh, I don't want to know. My husband likes surprises.

I love surprises.

Oh, put the due date. Aye.

KEYBOARD CLACKS

Right. Mm-hm. OK?

Already! Aw! HE CHUCKLES

PHONE RINGS

Who's that? It's Tess.

Baby Central, how can I help you?

LAUGHING: Ah! Ha-ha!

Thank you!

She says, "Congratulations."

SHE LAUGHS

April. Yeah!

SHE LAUGHS

MUFFLED CHATTER

Orla? The head wants a word.

CROWD: Oh, ho-ho, ho-ho!

APPROACHING FOOTSTEPS

Come on in, Orla.

This is Detective Constable Fallon.

Yes, I'm a police officer.

But don't worry, Orla, you're not in any trouble.

Sit down.

Please, sit down.

What on earth is going on?

She started out, she said she was from child protection.

She knew I was underage, she knew he abused me, Ma.

She knew everything!

But, how? And then she asked me about the pills.

And where I got them from.

Mummy, everybody saw me go in there and soon everybody's going to know.

It's OK, you're OK.

Come on away home.

KEYBOARD CLACKS

HEART BEATS There.

It sounds so fast.

Babies can do 160 beats a minute in the womb.

Hm? I like doing the homework.

Will we go for a fry after?

We can look for a pram.

RAPID HEARTBEATS

What's that, there? G-A.

What does that mean?

Gestational age.

But I'm 20 weeks. We know that.

So why does it say 12?

Sorry, I do need to concentrate.

It's all right.

OK, there are a few wee things I'm not happy about.

I'm just going to get your consultant to take a look.

DOOR OPENS

DOOR SHUTS

Most likely, it'll turn out to be nothing.

How is that a helpful thing to say? BABY CRIES

I just mean that we shouldn't... God, how much longer?

Mrs Kennedy?

I'm looking at the femurs - the thighbones - here and here.

They're very severely foreshortened, can you see? And curved.

It appears your baby has a form of dwarfism.

So that's...

What... I mean, people...

People do have dwarfism and still have lives.

It's not the end of the world.

Your sonographer also made a note for me to look at the chest.

It's very narrow and shaped like a bell - do you see?

A bell? Yes, I suppose so.

Taken together with the short femurs,

it indicates a condition called thanatophoric dysplasia.

I'm going to send you to Foetal Medicine

for a second opinion.

But the heartbeat, Dr Baines, it's so strong.

The heart has taken up all the space in this tiny ribcage.

Your baby's lungs have no room to develop.

So, when it...

I don't want to say "it" any more.

You can say "she".

Hm.

Your baby's a girl.

She'll most likely be stillborn.

If she survives the birth, she'll die very soon

from respiratory failure.

And she'll suffocate?

There's no immediate risk to you or to your baby,

so you can just carry on as normal.

She's going to die.

Or if the diagnosis is confirmed,

as this is a fatal foetal abnormality,

termination of the pregnancy might be a possibility.

SHE SOBS

My baby is going to die.

SHE SOBS

KEYBOARD CLACKS

Thanatapho... Thanat... It's an O.

Thanatophoric.

KEYBOARD CLACKS

You've already looked it up.

It's Greek.

PHOR as in Christophor - who carried Christ.

And THANATO, that's...Greek, too.

Greek for "death."

Death carrying.

What are we going to do?

Nothing tonight. Let's sleep on it.

Sleep?

Are you joking?

We have to talk about this!

It's too big to deal with tonight.

Mrs Ryan?

Uh-huh.

Detective Constable Fallon.

Nothing to be alarmed about.

Could we please have a word about your daughter down at the station?

ENGINE IGNITES

If you've teenagers at home...?

No.

Well, maybe you'll remember

what you were like yourselves back then.

And your poor mothers.

Orla was 15 when she fell pregnant?

She was, aye.

It's not how she was brought up, but... You know?

And when did she tell you?

25th of June.

I'll never forget that.

Did you order the pills for her on the same day?

No. No, the day after.

If you don't...

If you don't mind me asking, how did you know about that?

Were you aware at all that these pills are abortifacients?

That the pills cause abortion...

..which is illegal.

No.

No, I...

No, what...

Abortion is...

..is...surgery.

You know, you...

You have to have an operation.

You have to... You have to go to hospital and then they...

No, these...

You see, the pills, they just...

They just bring on your period.

You know? So - it's not the same.

It's not the same. Well, that's... That's what I thought.

Anyway, it's... It's private family business, so...

No. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. This is... This is not over. OK?

I have questions, OK? I am her mother.

I should have been there in the school whenever you talked to her.

Mrs Ryan, it's routine to interview in the absence of parents

on matters of child protection.

She doesn't need protecting from me!

Look, they were just some pills from the Internet.

It's what she wanted - that's the important thing.

If you've got a solicitor...

Whenever would I have a need for one of those?

I just... I need to see a solicitor.

Take a seat. PHONE RINGS

I know I've been stupid.

Well... Worse than stupid.

Because I've never had a secret in my life

and I'm sitting in the biggest one you could imagine.

And you know what it's like round here?

Everyone will find out and our family will be...

Nobody will want to know us and nobody will understand.

Tell me who knows already.

Nobody. Me and Orla.

And you and...the boyfriend.

The mental health people.

Our doctor.

Her head teacher and the police.

And whoever told them, which could be anybody. Jesus!

Her father?

No, no. He left when she was a wee girl.

She has a stepfather now and they get on right enough,

but she's made me promise not to tell.

So, I can't tell my mummy because it'll be all my fault,

and my best friend spends her afternoons demonstrating

outside Marie Stopes.

I'm pretty confident it won't come to anything.

These pills are coming into the country all the time

and nobody has ever been prosecuted.

But, Theresa, alone is such a hard place to be.

Mark, everything all right with Theresa?

Nothing a bit of sunshine won't fix.

What is it, John?

Visitors - with warrant cards.

Right.

PHONE VIBRATES

SHE SOBS

SHE SOBS

HE SIGHS

DOOR OPENS

DOOR SHUTS

I've been worried sick.

We have never been in any kind of trouble with the police - ever.

Well, we're not in any kind of trouble now.

I told them everything and... And they were fine.

She's 15.

Who is he?

Who is he?

Just some...

Just some boy - she met him in town.

I want his name.

I want to go round his house and kick the shit out of him.

No. No, you don't.

And what options have you left me, the pair of yous?

I mean, what did you think I would do if you told me?

I wasn't... I wasn't thinking that way.

Do I even belong in this family?

Yes, of course you do.

Mark, look, I'm sorry, but the truth is she didn't want you to know.

I've loved her like my own child.

Yes, I know. And that's why she was ashamed!

By God, I shouldn't have to spell it out.

DOOR SHUTS

Orla?

This all hurts.

But what hurts the most is that you and your mother both saw fit

to keep it a secret from me.

Don't, Mark. She's already been through enough.

Ma, you promised...

Don't walk away from me, Orla. Listen to me!

Why?!

This is none of your business!

Excuse me, who puts a roof over your head?

Will you both stop shouting - do you want this whole estate to know?

Well, they all know that the police come looking for you.

Ma?

Look, it was nothing, love. OK?

It was just box ticking, nothing bad is going to happen, I promise.

Ma, are people knowing?

No-one else is going to know.

Are you going to tell them?

No? Is your mother?

It's over.

You put this behind you.

You go back to school, you do your exams,

you pass your exams - all of them.

For God's sake! What else is she going to do?

Go to bed.

Go to bed!

DOOR SLAMS UPSTAIRS

This never happened.

The end.

Whenever my parents split up...

..I remember I thought, I'm never get married.

And then you came along.

And all I thought of then...

..the babies would come out.

All pretty babies.

They will.

We will have them one day.

As many as you want.

Is that it, then?

Is that our decision?

We'll go for the termination.

So mummy, dearest, how did it go?

I've never spent a single minute thinking about abortion in my life.

I mean, you don't, do you? It's something

that happens to other women.

But you wanted this baby so much?

I haven't stopped loving her.

I haven't stopped wanting her, I've never wanted anything so much.

This is such a hard thing to have to say to you.

But, Hannah, abortion is wrong.

It's killing babies.

My baby has a fatal foetal abnormality.

That's what's killing her.

Even if that's true...

..God, no, I will not... True? What?

I mean, it's only a doctor's opinion, isn't it?

You don't have to go along with it.

Hannah...

..you have a chance to give your child her one precious

chance of life.

Oh, Hannah, show mercy.

Mercy?

You want me to give birth to her and watch her die in agony?

How's that merciful to either of us.

I have a phone call at 11:00.

I won't tell anyone about this conversation, Hannah,

and neither should you.

It's not a thing you want people gossiping about.

Mrs Kennedy?

And so we've been discussing it and researching it

and debating all our options.

And we've decided that the best thing for us

would be to say that, yes, we'll have the termination.

Well, you know, that's not going to happen.

Dr Ben said it was an option.

She shouldn't have said that.

Excuse me, it's not illegal.

We looked up the figures online, official figures.

There's been 91 abortions in the last year.

Oh, I don't know where they happened.

Not in this hospital.

Well, my...my baby has a fatal foetal abnormality.

Surely there should be an assessment of my mental health.

We phoned the psychiatrist and he said, no,

he wouldn't sign off on a termination.

So...

..you made an assessment of the state of my mental health...

..before you even met me.

You will go on under our care through to the end

of a normal pregnancy and give birth to your baby in the normal way.

No, nothing about this is normal, it's...

Nothing about this is right.

Over there. See?

Don't kill your baby.

Please don't kill your baby.

Your beautiful baby loves you.

Not so close, please. These people can't help you.

Whatever you're going through right now... Excuse me.

..multiply it by 10,000, OK?

Your baby's alive.

Your baby loves you.

CHANTING: Save every life! Save every life!

PROTESTORS CLAMOUR

Marie Stopes International, how may I help you?

Um, I live in Northern Ireland and I need a termination.

Can I ask how far on you are with your pregnancy?

23 weeks and six days.

Unfortunately, our Belfast clinic can only help up to nine weeks.

Marie Stopes International, how may I help you?

I was just telling someone I live in Northern Ireland

and I'm too far along to get a termination here.

So now I'm calling to see if I can come to England, please.

Can I ask how far on you are with your pregnancy?

23 weeks and six days.

I'm so sorry - policy in England for...

Missed the deadline by a whole day.

A whole day.

I'm not heading out.

Look, that's a big race you're trained for -

you can't just stop.

You've just got to wait now.

Wait while life goes on.

LINE RINGS

PHONE RINGS

One minute. Hannah?

You said if, um...

..if I needed some time from work...

What's happening?

I'm going to have to carry the baby to term.

I think...

I hope you'll be glad in the end,

glad you went through with it.

You've just got no idea what this is like.

Nobody has any idea what this is like.

Are you alone, love?

Is Jonathan not with you?

He's in work. What do you think?

Take as long as you need.

OK?

NEWSCASTER: More than 15,000 people have been taking part

in the Belfast Marathon.

I'm not sure it's a spectator sport.

Another personal best while I wasn't looking?

Three hours, 12.

It's great that you've got somewhere to put it. Hmm.

All the pressure.

See, John, I have noticed that it's happening to you too.

Ah, go on with you, I'm all right.

SHE INHALES SHARPLY

All right? Mm-hm. Here.

"Through to the end of a normal pregnancy."

But you're in constant pain, there's nothing normal about that.

Is there not something more they can do?

I'm already on all this morphine twice a day.

If they give me anything else, I'll never wake up.

Stay in bed tomorrow. No, no.

I'm coming in to Belfast to give you your champion's lunch.

It can wait - stay in bed.

I'll go mad.

Madder.

Now, there is lovely - you're the before and I'm the after.

Is it a boy or a girl?

Little girl. Gorgeous.

And when are you due? April.

God, you're big. Mind you, so was I.

Felt like I had a whole football team inside of me,

and she was only six-and-a-half pounds.

But it's all worth it in the end.

Excuse me. S-sorry.

Walking now -

don't know where the time goes.

We'll walk up the steps.

We'll leave Mummy to have a wee sit.

SHE GASPS AND GROANS IN PAIN

SHE PANTS

I'm coming. I'm on my way. Stay calm. I love you.

I'm coming.

Settle.

SHE CRIES

That's it, breathe.

Breathe.

SHE SCREAMS

I don't want to hurt her, I don't...

CAMERA CLICKS

For your memory box.

No, no, no, I... Thank you, but no.

We don't need any help to remember her, thank you.

Here.

What's this?

You're going to have to stand up in court.

I thought it was over.

I wanted to believe it was over.

"For unlawfully procuring and unlawfully supplying a poison

"or other noxious thing..." I'm very surprised, I must say.

"..knowing the same was intended to be unlawfully used with intent

"to procure a miscarriage contrary to Section 59..."

There's never been a prosecution.

"..contrary to Section 59

"of the Offences Against the Person Act, 1861."

1861 - that's insane.

They'll drop it. I still think so.

Can you guarantee my wife won't end up in prison?

I can guarantee we're going to fight this every inch of the way.

How long will I get?

The maximum sentence is five years.

HANNAH: I want us to do something proper to remember her by.

Something real.

None of it will ever feel real to me.

No-one should ever have to go through this.

MUFFLED VOICES

No, listen, the only way to help that poor woman facing trial,

whoever she is, is direct action.

Come on. Here's what we do. Hannah. Sorry.

I'm Jenny. We just started. You go on and you order the same pills.

Then we call the media.

Then we all take the pills in front of the cameras

and then we call the police and we say,

"So now arrest the whole lot of us, why don't you? You big bullies!"

Not putting you off at all, are we?

No, no, I'm...

I came because I read in the newspaper that the government's

considering changing the law on fatal foetal abnormality.

Buying us off with a concession when it's got to be all or nothing.

A woman's right to choose, end of. No, we have to go for this.

There's women out there right now being forced to give birth

to dead babies.

So then I told them what happened to me, to us, and they got

really interested cos they're doing this thing,

like a really big challenge in the courts, to tell everyone

that the rules here are too strict and they breach our human rights.

And they've got all these arguments and loads of lawyers...

But Jenny says what they need now is victims.

Victims? Women who've been through it to stand up

and tell their stories.

You want to be a victim?

Well, no, I mean, it's just a form of words.

It's just a little town, Hannah - it's not Belfast.

No, it's 20 miles away and four years ago.

You want to relive the worst time of our lives in public?

But this feels so good.

After all the grief and awfulness, it feels...

..like the start of something new.

And I'm ready, John.

I am ready.

Will I tell the lawyers they can't use my name

or show my face? I'll be the invisible woman.

HE LAUGHS

If it helps just one other person, it'll be worth it.

So there's a few press. Press? You mean reporters?

Jesus! Don't worry, they're not allowed to report your name

or anything that might identify Orla, as she's underage.

Stay close to me, OK?

And we'll do that thing where we pretend we belong here.

Here. Right.

Let's...

You are charged that you did unlawfully procure and supply

a poison or other noxious thing, namely mifepristone and misoprostol,

knowing that the same was to be unlawfully used or employed

with the intent to procure the miscarriage of Orla Healy,

contrary to Section 59

of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861.

Sir, I submit these charges are too serious to be heard

in this court.

Agreed. I duly direct that the case be sent up to the Crown Court

to be tried before a jury.

I want everyone to know how unjust the law is here in Northern Ireland.

No-one should ever have to endure what I did.

She won't have to stand up in court.

She's 18 years old, but she's still my child.

Theresa. I said no.

There's a woman all over the papers facing prison for that!

Yeah. There is.

If you really believed that abortion was murder, you would fight

to the death to stop it, too.

Do you think what we did was murder? Honestly, I don't know.