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570
00:39:10,028 --> 00:39:13,273
571
00:39:13,308 --> 00:39:16,517
572
00:39:16,552 --> 00:39:19,232
573
00:39:19,267 --> 00:39:21,912
574
00:39:21,947 --> 00:39:24,037
I don't have any big illusions.
575
00:39:24,072 --> 00:39:27,272
I know what I have done,
and no man can judge me.
576
00:39:27,307 --> 00:39:29,678
I judge me.
What have you done, Charlie?
577
00:39:29,713 --> 00:39:36,997
This crazed, misguided, drug-driven
cultism...Satanism...
578
00:39:37,032 --> 00:39:43,477
touched the irrationality of the very
thing that sustained flower-power,
579
00:39:43,512 --> 00:39:48,632
and that was the sense of
unbridled optimism and social integration and trust,
580
00:39:48,667 --> 00:39:53,753
and all of that was shattered.
It was like the snake that came into the Garden.
581
00:40:01,273 --> 00:40:06,833
The Manson gang's killing spree
shamed and terrorised LA's alternative artistic community,
582
00:40:06,868 --> 00:40:11,112
of which he'd been a well-known
if barely tolerated presence.
583
00:40:12,672 --> 00:40:18,472
Three months later, at a free
Rolling Stones' concert at Altamont, near San Francisco,
584
00:40:18,507 --> 00:40:22,113
the counterculture was dealt
another devastating blow.
585
00:40:29,913 --> 00:40:31,992
It was crazy, man.
586
00:40:34,392 --> 00:40:37,452
The Hell's Angels were the security.
587
00:40:37,487 --> 00:40:40,513
The were all drinking cheap red wine.
588
00:40:40,548 --> 00:40:42,672
They were all loaded on PCP...
589
00:40:42,707 --> 00:40:44,238
and acid.
590
00:40:44,273 --> 00:40:46,873
And it got really ugly.
591
00:40:49,992 --> 00:40:51,993
Can everybody just clear out!
592
00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:56,273
Will you clear out, everybody!
593
00:40:59,033 --> 00:41:05,513
Altamont's defining moment was
the murder of an audience member called Meredith Hunter
594
00:41:05,548 --> 00:41:06,957
by a Hell's Angels gang member.
595
00:41:06,992 --> 00:41:11,878
People have been killed
in sight of the stage, you know.
596
00:41:11,913 --> 00:41:17,312
While the Stones sing Sympathy
For The Devil, everybody went, "This is a little NOT OK."
597
00:41:22,992 --> 00:41:24,198
That was death in your own backyard.
598
00:41:24,233 --> 00:41:26,753
It happened where people
were congregating.
599
00:41:26,788 --> 00:41:29,478
It became larger than life.
600
00:41:29,513 --> 00:41:33,872
And it all occurred within months
of the Woodstock festival,
601
00:41:33,907 --> 00:41:36,078
where everything had bloomed,
602
00:41:36,113 --> 00:41:40,753
and the sense of real possibility,
suddenly you were brought up short at Altamont.
603
00:41:45,433 --> 00:41:48,198
There was a sense, in a way,
604
00:41:48,233 --> 00:41:51,593
like the discovery of AIDS,
that the party was ending.
605
00:41:56,872 --> 00:42:00,918
It was time, it seemed,
for the comedown.
606
00:42:00,953 --> 00:42:07,272
The new decade brought a shift
in the emotional landscape of LA's emerging singer-songwriters,
607
00:42:07,307 --> 00:42:12,130
as the failure of the collective
gave way to the power of the personal.
608
00:42:12,165 --> 00:42:16,918
Here's another really new one that
isn't quite finished, just for fun.
609
00:42:16,953 --> 00:42:22,632
I think, if you listen to the
material, you can see how everyone was forever changed.
610
00:42:26,753 --> 00:42:32,512
In 1970, Joni Mitchell,
who two years earlier had penned the theme to Woodstock,
611
00:42:32,547 --> 00:42:37,198
recorded a collection of
startlingly autobiographical songs.
612
00:42:37,233 --> 00:42:42,152
It was the basis of an album
that would become the definitive statement
613
00:42:42,187 --> 00:42:44,433
of confessional songwriting.
614
00:42:45,993 --> 00:42:47,997
In my first week of college,
615
00:42:48,032 --> 00:42:50,678
she called and asked would I
come out to California
616
00:42:50,713 --> 00:42:55,033
to do some photos of her.
She was writing the songs for Blue.
617
00:42:55,068 --> 00:43:00,070
and I am travelling
618
00:43:00,105 --> 00:43:05,072
and in me
619
00:43:05,107 --> 00:43:09,072
620
00:43:09,107 --> 00:43:11,832
621
00:43:13,512 --> 00:43:17,118
that could be...
622
00:43:17,153 --> 00:43:22,953
From a songwriting viewpoint,
most songwriters still are in awe of that record.
623
00:43:28,673 --> 00:43:35,997
624
00:43:36,032 --> 00:43:39,072
Blue is an overwhelming album.
625
00:43:39,107 --> 00:43:42,112
626
00:43:42,147 --> 00:43:44,832
627
00:43:46,112 --> 00:43:48,277
628
00:43:48,312 --> 00:43:51,993
All of a sudden, there's this woman
writing about personal relationships
629
00:43:52,028 --> 00:43:55,010
on a very profound level,
630
00:43:55,045 --> 00:43:57,958
and it was deeply affecting.
631
00:43:57,993 --> 00:43:59,793
632
00:43:59,828 --> 00:44:01,878
633
00:44:01,913 --> 00:44:05,312
634
00:44:05,347 --> 00:44:07,869
635
00:44:07,904 --> 00:44:10,248
636
00:44:10,283 --> 00:44:12,558
637
00:44:12,593 --> 00:44:14,597
She changed the way I wrote,
638
00:44:14,632 --> 00:44:19,512
because I realised that it was OK
to talk about what was happening in your heart,
639
00:44:19,547 --> 00:44:21,558
so that other people could go,
640
00:44:21,593 --> 00:44:26,352
"I know what you're saying.
It happened to me the other day."Those kind of songs.
641
00:44:31,593 --> 00:44:34,238
A year after Joni Mitchell
released Blue,
642
00:44:34,273 --> 00:44:38,993
Neil Young, an equally
uncompromising singer-songwriter,
643
00:44:39,028 --> 00:44:40,433
produced a breakthrough record.
644
00:44:42,033 --> 00:44:45,273
Over the next 35 years,
his relentless soul-searching
645
00:44:45,308 --> 00:44:48,712
would underpin an unpredictable
musical journey.
646
00:44:50,793 --> 00:44:52,872
These guys will do anything
for a laugh.
647
00:44:55,984 --> 00:44:58,748
648
00:44:58,783 --> 00:45:01,477
649
00:45:01,512 --> 00:45:07,992
a heart of gold...
650
00:45:08,027 --> 00:45:09,997
Harvest was a huge success
651
00:45:10,032 --> 00:45:12,953
and it kind of put Neil on the map in a very profound way.
652
00:45:12,988 --> 00:45:20,513
a heart of gold
653
00:45:20,548 --> 00:45:22,592
654
00:45:24,232 --> 00:45:29,712
But immediately after, there were
some tragedies. There was a roadie named Bruce Berry,
655
00:45:29,747 --> 00:45:34,477
and then there was Danny Whitten
from Crazy Horse,
656
00:45:34,512 --> 00:45:36,992
both of whom OD'd in
a short period of time, from heroin.
657
00:45:37,027 --> 00:45:39,829
658
00:45:39,864 --> 00:45:42,597
659
00:45:42,632 --> 00:45:48,558
a heart of gold...
660
00:45:48,593 --> 00:45:54,353
Neil, at the peak of his success
in the marketplace,
661
00:45:54,388 --> 00:45:56,238
exorcised all his demons,
662
00:45:56,273 --> 00:45:59,592
and that was Tonight's The Night,
which was,
663
00:45:59,627 --> 00:46:02,912
in some ways,
the most imperfect record he made.
664
00:46:02,947 --> 00:46:06,513
665
00:46:08,392 --> 00:46:11,997
666
00:46:12,032 --> 00:46:14,998
He was rebelling against production.
667
00:46:15,033 --> 00:46:18,398
He said, "I wanna make a record,
and I wanna do this live,
668
00:46:18,433 --> 00:46:22,272
"but I want people to hear it before
the band knows what they're doing."
669
00:46:22,307 --> 00:46:24,997
670
00:46:25,032 --> 00:46:28,832
that Econoline van...
671
00:46:28,867 --> 00:46:30,678
So we went on tour,
672
00:46:30,713 --> 00:46:34,792
and everyone expected that he would
play all the songs from Harvest.
673
00:46:34,827 --> 00:46:37,518
The Eagles were the opening act.
674
00:46:37,553 --> 00:46:40,772
The Eagles came out
and were fucking great.
675
00:46:40,807 --> 00:46:44,500
in a shaky voice
676
00:46:44,535 --> 00:46:48,193
677
00:46:49,593 --> 00:46:52,557
678
00:46:52,592 --> 00:46:57,033
And then Neil came out and he
did the Tonight's The Night album
679
00:46:57,068 --> 00:46:58,798
from beginning to end.
680
00:46:58,833 --> 00:47:01,598
He would say,
"If you stick with this,
681
00:47:01,633 --> 00:47:05,033
"at the end I'll play songs that
you've heard before."
682
00:47:05,068 --> 00:47:08,433
And then, at the end,
he started the album over again!
683
00:47:10,032 --> 00:47:12,393
And that's when I knew I loved him.
684
00:47:12,428 --> 00:47:14,550
And the place emptied out.
685
00:47:14,585 --> 00:47:16,637
Pretty much every night!
686
00:47:16,672 --> 00:47:21,713
You know, it was fantastic.
I never saw anyone do that.
687
00:47:21,748 --> 00:47:23,598
It was just awesome.
688
00:47:23,633 --> 00:47:27,633
It was just the power of his
own belief and his own convictions,
689
00:47:27,668 --> 00:47:29,712
that he just didn't give a fuck.
690
00:47:29,747 --> 00:47:32,752
691
00:47:32,787 --> 00:47:34,233
692
00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:46,712
I guess I'm writing about
a part of me that I don't know if I'll ever share.
693
00:47:46,747 --> 00:47:48,609
I don't know.
694
00:47:48,644 --> 00:47:50,437
It's just, um...
695
00:47:50,472 --> 00:47:53,193
I'm writing about, um...
696
00:47:54,552 --> 00:47:56,398
..the way I feel inside
697
00:47:56,433 --> 00:47:59,557
and no matter how many people
are around me...
698
00:47:59,592 --> 00:48:03,953
I keep talking about it,
all the things that go on inside me,
699
00:48:03,988 --> 00:48:05,313
and, um...
700
00:48:07,392 --> 00:48:09,752
I guess by talking about it,
it helps.
701
00:48:15,353 --> 00:48:17,993
Neil Young's low-fire rock'n'roll
702
00:48:18,028 --> 00:48:20,633
and Joni Mitchell's acoustic poetry
703
00:48:20,668 --> 00:48:22,998
sounded worlds apart,
704
00:48:23,033 --> 00:48:25,853
but they were both
serious, sensitive musicians
705
00:48:25,888 --> 00:48:28,638
whose songwriting
was intensely self-centred.
706
00:48:28,673 --> 00:48:33,637
They led a new generation of
ruthlessly single-minded artists
707
00:48:33,672 --> 00:48:39,473
and prompted a radical change
in the commercial strategy of LA's music industry.
708
00:48:41,873 --> 00:48:44,438
In the early days of Warner Reprise,
709
00:48:44,473 --> 00:48:48,033
the label had signed artists
like Neil Young and Randy Newman
710
00:48:48,068 --> 00:48:49,598
and Joni Mitchell,
711
00:48:49,633 --> 00:48:53,632
and I think the label became aware
that those artists had a vision,
712
00:48:53,667 --> 00:48:57,238
and it wasn't just
a creative musical vision.
713
00:48:57,273 --> 00:49:02,393
It had to do with who they were
and how they were represented and how they were perceived.
714
00:49:02,428 --> 00:49:05,797
Warner Reprise -
part of Warner Bros -
715
00:49:05,832 --> 00:49:10,252
and previously best-known as
Frank Sinatra's record company,
716
00:49:10,287 --> 00:49:14,672
was the first to gamble on
LA's uncompromising troubadours.
717
00:49:14,707 --> 00:49:16,913
It was a calculated risk.
718
00:49:16,948 --> 00:49:18,717
And it paid off.
719
00:49:18,752 --> 00:49:22,032
If you put out great records
by great artists,
720
00:49:22,067 --> 00:49:23,958
regardless of what they did,
721
00:49:23,993 --> 00:49:27,033
as long as you weren't getting hurt
too badly financially,
722
00:49:27,068 --> 00:49:29,992
that was a way of drawing
other artists.
723
00:49:30,027 --> 00:49:33,190
724
00:49:33,225 --> 00:49:36,353
725
00:49:37,593 --> 00:49:42,198
this troubled world behind...
726
00:49:42,233 --> 00:49:47,552
I was in a band in New York for a
while, after I finished high school
727
00:49:47,587 --> 00:49:52,872
and, um...when that broke up,
I decided I'd like to travel a little bit,
728
00:49:52,907 --> 00:49:56,517
so I went over to London and, um...
729
00:49:56,552 --> 00:50:00,232
I...I found it very difficult
to get work without having papers,
730
00:50:00,267 --> 00:50:04,890
so I decided instead
that I'd like to make a record.
731
00:50:04,925 --> 00:50:09,513
she's been with me now
732
00:50:09,548 --> 00:50:11,610
733
00:50:11,645 --> 00:50:14,319
734
00:50:14,354 --> 00:50:16,958
735
00:50:16,993 --> 00:50:21,997
I was here in California
and made a record deal for James
736
00:50:22,032 --> 00:50:26,033
with Warner Bros,
choosing Warner Bros because of the cool people they had already,
737
00:50:26,068 --> 00:50:28,878
and because of the ads Stan Cornyn
wrote,
738
00:50:28,913 --> 00:50:31,478
which were the coolest album ads
we'd ever seen.
739
00:50:31,513 --> 00:50:36,072
James Taylor left Apple Records
to be on Warner Bros.
740
00:50:36,107 --> 00:50:39,070
Apple was as hip as it could be
741
00:50:39,105 --> 00:50:42,033
and he wanted to be on our label.
742
00:50:46,112 --> 00:50:48,873
This was Sweet Baby James.
This was amazing.
743
00:50:48,908 --> 00:50:53,033
744
00:50:53,068 --> 00:50:54,993
745
00:50:56,433 --> 00:51:01,152
They're his only companions...
746
00:51:01,187 --> 00:51:03,678
Sensitive lyrics,
747
00:51:03,713 --> 00:51:09,552
mellow music and the intriguing
suggestion of a tortured soul
748
00:51:09,587 --> 00:51:13,352
made James Taylor LA's latest exile
singer-songwriter
749
00:51:13,387 --> 00:51:15,592
a powerful artistic force.
750
00:51:17,153 --> 00:51:21,833
You moonlight ladies
751
00:51:21,868 --> 00:51:26,478
My Sweet Baby James...
752
00:51:26,513 --> 00:51:32,313
Neither James nor I
have ever particularly liked the mellow, um, application,
753
00:51:32,348 --> 00:51:33,797
nor sensitive,
754
00:51:33,832 --> 00:51:36,912
because he's not that mellow
and he's not that sensitive.
755
00:51:40,512 --> 00:51:47,033
But there is a contrast between
a certain mellowness, for want of a better word, musically,
756
00:51:47,068 --> 00:51:50,033
with the fact that the lyrics
are pretty intense.
757
00:51:50,068 --> 00:51:52,278
758
00:51:52,313 --> 00:51:55,077
759
00:51:55,112 --> 00:52:00,233
put an end to you
760
00:52:02,712 --> 00:52:05,317
761
00:52:05,352 --> 00:52:08,517
762
00:52:08,552 --> 00:52:11,632
There are lyrics about a friend
who killed herself
763
00:52:11,667 --> 00:52:14,850
and experiences in a mental hospital
and drugs,
764
00:52:14,885 --> 00:52:18,033
so the subject matter is not mellow
at all.
765
00:52:18,068 --> 00:52:19,912
766
00:52:21,192 --> 00:52:26,033
would never end...
767
00:52:26,068 --> 00:52:28,313
He was a harder-core drug addict
than any of us.
768
00:52:28,348 --> 00:52:30,998
Sweet Baby James
was this fucking animal.
769
00:52:31,033 --> 00:52:35,392
He was a hippie junkie. And there was
something about that mentality
770
00:52:35,427 --> 00:52:40,272
that, somehow or other,
set him apart from everybody else.
771
00:52:40,307 --> 00:52:43,409
I remember saying to him one time,
"It's a good thing
772
00:52:43,444 --> 00:52:46,512
"you're a fucking folk guy.
If you were a rock'n'roller,
773
00:52:46,547 --> 00:52:48,558
"you'd have been dead years ago.
774
00:52:48,593 --> 00:52:53,593
"You can't behave like this
without someone killing you, or killing yourself."
775
00:52:53,628 --> 00:52:58,117
and I've seen rain...
776
00:52:58,152 --> 00:53:03,558
Backed by musicians drawn
from a pool known as the LA Mafia,
777
00:53:03,593 --> 00:53:07,873
James Taylor's first West Coast
record stayed on the album charts
778
00:53:07,908 --> 00:53:09,278
for over 100 weeks,
779
00:53:09,313 --> 00:53:13,272
making the sensitive
singer-songwriter front-page news,
780
00:53:13,307 --> 00:53:16,037
and, in the same year,
781
00:53:16,072 --> 00:53:21,753
a fellow East Coast exile
released the most successful record that LA had ever produced.
782
00:53:21,788 --> 00:53:26,832
I know that many of you
are admirers of James Taylor.
783
00:53:26,867 --> 00:53:28,398
I am myself.
784
00:53:28,433 --> 00:53:30,958
I'd like to get him out here
to help me.
785
00:53:30,993 --> 00:53:34,992
He was kind enough to volunteer,
so, come on, James!
786
00:53:37,472 --> 00:53:42,878
Carole King had made her name as
one half of Goffen And King,
787
00:53:42,913 --> 00:53:48,873
a prolific partnership at the
heart of New York's hit songwriting factory, the Brill Building.
788
00:53:51,552 --> 00:53:54,993
But in LA, she would undergo
a radical re-invention.
789
00:53:55,028 --> 00:53:58,957
790
00:53:58,992 --> 00:54:05,553
any more...?
791
00:54:06,713 --> 00:54:10,673
Carole King,
she played on Sweet Baby James,
792
00:54:10,708 --> 00:54:13,752
so Carole was a huge part of it.
793
00:54:13,787 --> 00:54:17,930
794
00:54:17,965 --> 00:54:22,038
795
00:54:22,073 --> 00:54:26,513
She wrote all the great songs
that we all grew up learning,
796
00:54:26,548 --> 00:54:31,032
from Up On The Roof to One Fine Day
to Natural Woman.
797
00:54:31,067 --> 00:54:33,757
I mean, she wrote everything.
798
00:54:33,792 --> 00:54:39,392
Carole King's transformation
from writer-for-hire to introspective singer-songwriter
799
00:54:39,427 --> 00:54:43,552
exemplified the music industry's
shift from New York to LA,
800
00:54:43,587 --> 00:54:46,638
from Brill Building to
Laurel Canyon.
801
00:54:46,673 --> 00:54:51,833
moving along the highway...
802
00:54:54,553 --> 00:54:57,917
Tapestry spent a staggering 15 weeks
at number one,
803
00:54:57,952 --> 00:55:03,513
confirming LA as the natural
commercial and spiritual home for a new kind of popular artist.
804
00:55:05,313 --> 00:55:08,693
I think it's fair to say that
Los Angeles had every intention
805
00:55:08,728 --> 00:55:12,073
of becoming the place to
bring that heightened individuality
806
00:55:12,108 --> 00:55:15,278
of the singer-songwriter
to the fore.
807
00:55:15,313 --> 00:55:19,513
We developed a thing out here called
"the heat behind the beat",
808
00:55:19,548 --> 00:55:23,713
and those were the attorneys
who made this whole thing possible.
809
00:55:23,748 --> 00:55:27,038
The idea of self-publishing,
for example.
810
00:55:27,073 --> 00:55:30,032
The new autonomies that were
available to the singer-songwriter.
811
00:55:30,067 --> 00:55:31,952
These things were codified
out here.
812
00:55:34,912 --> 00:55:36,517
By the end of 1971,
813
00:55:36,552 --> 00:55:41,072
LA was the centre of a
multi-million-dollar music business
814
00:55:41,107 --> 00:55:43,232
increasingly driven
by its songwriters...
815
00:55:45,152 --> 00:55:49,518
..and among the city's community of
self-absorbed artists,
816
00:55:49,553 --> 00:55:53,753
one young musician emerged as the
voice of the collective conscience.
817
00:55:53,788 --> 00:55:58,152
I remember I got an 8 x 10 glossy
of this really cute guy
818
00:55:58,187 --> 00:56:00,150
with a demo, and I thought,
819
00:56:00,185 --> 00:56:02,078
"Can't beat Bob Dylan."
820
00:56:02,113 --> 00:56:06,272
Then my secretary listened to it and
called me up the next day and said,
821
00:56:06,307 --> 00:56:09,593
"You ought to listen to that tape.
That guy is really good."
822
00:56:09,628 --> 00:56:12,353
823
00:56:12,388 --> 00:56:15,037
824
00:56:15,072 --> 00:56:19,197
where the shadows fell...
825
00:56:19,232 --> 00:56:23,673
Jackson Browne had moved the
short distance from Orange County
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to Los Angeles in 1966,
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aged just 17.
828
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He was soon a popular
and much-admired favourite
829
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of the Laurel Canyon community.
830
00:56:35,145 --> 00:56:38,597
831
00:56:38,632 --> 00:56:44,172
There was a couple of years that
I had offers, but didn't feel that I was really ready.
832
00:56:44,207 --> 00:56:49,713
I had it demonstrated to me
really early that it took a lot of intention to make records,
833
00:56:49,748 --> 00:56:52,673
and that one couldn't
just drift into the studio
834
00:56:52,708 --> 00:56:56,557
like our legendary heroes did
835
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and sit down, and, for $250,
make your first masterpiece.
836
00:57:00,547 --> 00:57:04,433
I heard about Jackson through
a woman named Pamela Polland -
837
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P-O-L-L-A-N-D. Gentle soul.
838
00:57:07,352 --> 00:57:13,553
Pamela's in Hawaii.
When I found Pamela, Pamela said, "If you think I'M good,
839
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"you ought to find Jackson Browne."
840
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Musically,
he was tremendously respected,
841
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and really a touchstone
842
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for a lot of the new genre of
singer-songwriter.
843
00:57:26,908 --> 00:57:30,233
844
00:57:32,072 --> 00:57:36,432
Confessional lyrics,
beautiful poetry, and wondering why the world is so screwed up
845
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and why your life is screwed up.
846
00:57:38,952 --> 00:57:44,918
He's an incredibly important
seminal artist of our times.
847
00:57:44,953 --> 00:57:48,953
When Jackson wrote, "Please don't
confront me with my failures,
848
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"I've not forgotten them,"
849
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and he was only 17, you know!
850
00:57:54,552 --> 00:57:58,632
851
00:57:58,667 --> 00:58:02,797
852
00:58:02,832 --> 00:58:07,558
Good grief! You're writing like
you're a man of 60!
853
00:58:07,593 --> 00:58:12,633
"Don't confront me with my failures,
I've not forgotten them."
854
00:58:14,393 --> 00:58:15,952
Wonderful.
855
00:58:15,987 --> 00:58:17,477
Wonderful!
856
00:58:17,512 --> 00:58:22,792
Jackson Browne had the talent,
charisma and looks to be a star.
857
00:58:24,593 --> 00:58:28,277
What he didn't have
was a recording contract.
858
00:58:28,312 --> 00:58:33,672
David Geffen had been a manager and
an agent, and he'd been well-versed in the different aspects of that...
859
00:58:33,707 --> 00:58:36,037
music business.
860
00:58:36,072 --> 00:58:40,113
I think he was going to put me
to Columbia or Atlantic.
861
00:58:40,148 --> 00:58:41,993
Suddenly, I decided...
862
00:58:42,028 --> 00:58:43,957
Hell, I'll do it!
863
00:58:43,992 --> 00:58:50,238
I went to see Ahmet Ertegun, played
the tapes and said, "You should sign him. You'll make a lot of money."
864
00:58:50,273 --> 00:58:57,632
He said, "I have a lot of money. Why
don't you start a record company? You could have a lot of money." So I did.
865
00:58:57,667 --> 00:59:01,392
We use independent producers,
or we let the artist produce themselves. Whatever they want.
866
00:59:01,427 --> 00:59:03,598
It's a very artist-oriented company
867
00:59:03,633 --> 00:59:06,837
and whatever they want to do,
we support them.
868
00:59:06,872 --> 00:59:10,992
What I like the most were people
who sang their own songs.
869
00:59:11,027 --> 00:59:16,072
That's what they all had in common
at Asylum Records.
870
00:59:16,107 --> 00:59:18,850
That was the...gestalt of the day.
871
00:59:18,885 --> 00:59:21,558
He was also everybody's manager, too.
872
00:59:21,593 --> 00:59:24,197
Later, we had people grumbling about
conflict of interest
873
00:59:24,232 --> 00:59:31,032
but there was no conflict of interest
because I don't think he ever charged any of us for management.
874
00:59:31,067 --> 00:59:32,197
He was our patron, you know.
875
00:59:32,232 --> 00:59:35,832
The medici.
The medici of rock'n'roll.
876
00:59:38,073 --> 00:59:40,517
877
00:59:40,552 --> 00:59:45,472
without crying
878
00:59:45,507 --> 00:59:49,518
879
00:59:49,553 --> 00:59:53,052
Asylum's artist-driven ethos
was anathema
880
00:59:53,087 --> 00:59:56,517
to the conventions of the
music business,
881
00:59:56,552 --> 01:00:00,312
and Geffen's approach to AandR
was typically direct.
882
01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:04,038
David realised that other musicians
are very often
883
01:00:04,073 --> 01:00:08,473
an extremely important source for
finding out about new talent.
884
01:00:12,512 --> 01:00:16,517
Went over to his house,
played some songs to him. Yes.
885
01:00:16,552 --> 01:00:20,952
He knew that when Jackson told him
about John David Souther,
886
01:00:20,987 --> 01:00:25,353
or whichever order it happened in,
he really paid attention.
887
01:00:25,388 --> 01:00:28,357
I don't think that every record
that we make is a hit,
888
01:00:28,392 --> 01:00:33,593
or that every artist is going
to be a star, but I think the music we put out is very valid.
889
01:00:33,628 --> 01:00:35,913
I thought, "Wow. This is just the
way you think it's gonna work.
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