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It was like the snake that came into the Garden. 581 00:40:01,273 --> 00:40:06,833 The Manson gang's killing spree shamed and terrorised LA's alternative artistic community, 582 00:40:06,868 --> 00:40:11,112 of which he'd been a well-known if barely tolerated presence. 583 00:40:12,672 --> 00:40:18,472 Three months later, at a free Rolling Stones' concert at Altamont, near San Francisco, 584 00:40:18,507 --> 00:40:22,113 the counterculture was dealt another devastating blow. 585 00:40:29,913 --> 00:40:31,992 It was crazy, man. 586 00:40:34,392 --> 00:40:37,452 The Hell's Angels were the security. 587 00:40:37,487 --> 00:40:40,513 The were all drinking cheap red wine. 588 00:40:40,548 --> 00:40:42,672 They were all loaded on PCP... 589 00:40:42,707 --> 00:40:44,238 and acid. 590 00:40:44,273 --> 00:40:46,873 And it got really ugly. 591 00:40:49,992 --> 00:40:51,993 Can everybody just clear out! 592 00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:56,273 Will you clear out, everybody! 593 00:40:59,033 --> 00:41:05,513 Altamont's defining moment was the murder of an audience member called Meredith Hunter 594 00:41:05,548 --> 00:41:06,957 by a Hell's Angels gang member. 595 00:41:06,992 --> 00:41:11,878 People have been killed in sight of the stage, you know. 596 00:41:11,913 --> 00:41:17,312 While the Stones sing Sympathy For The Devil, everybody went, "This is a little NOT OK." 597 00:41:22,992 --> 00:41:24,198 That was death in your own backyard. 598 00:41:24,233 --> 00:41:26,753 It happened where people were congregating. 599 00:41:26,788 --> 00:41:29,478 It became larger than life. 600 00:41:29,513 --> 00:41:33,872 And it all occurred within months of the Woodstock festival, 601 00:41:33,907 --> 00:41:36,078 where everything had bloomed, 602 00:41:36,113 --> 00:41:40,753 and the sense of real possibility, suddenly you were brought up short at Altamont. 603 00:41:45,433 --> 00:41:48,198 There was a sense, in a way, 604 00:41:48,233 --> 00:41:51,593 like the discovery of AIDS, that the party was ending. 605 00:41:56,872 --> 00:42:00,918 It was time, it seemed, for the comedown. 606 00:42:00,953 --> 00:42:07,272 The new decade brought a shift in the emotional landscape of LA's emerging singer-songwriters, 607 00:42:07,307 --> 00:42:12,130 as the failure of the collective gave way to the power of the personal. 608 00:42:12,165 --> 00:42:16,918 Here's another really new one that isn't quite finished, just for fun. 609 00:42:16,953 --> 00:42:22,632 I think, if you listen to the material, you can see how everyone was forever changed. 610 00:42:26,753 --> 00:42:32,512 In 1970, Joni Mitchell, who two years earlier had penned the theme to Woodstock, 611 00:42:32,547 --> 00:42:37,198 recorded a collection of startlingly autobiographical songs. 612 00:42:37,233 --> 00:42:42,152 It was the basis of an album that would become the definitive statement 613 00:42:42,187 --> 00:42:44,433 of confessional songwriting. 614 00:42:45,993 --> 00:42:47,997 In my first week of college, 615 00:42:48,032 --> 00:42:50,678 she called and asked would I come out to California 616 00:42:50,713 --> 00:42:55,033 to do some photos of her. She was writing the songs for Blue. 617 00:42:55,068 --> 00:43:00,070 and I am travelling 618 00:43:00,105 --> 00:43:05,072 and in me 619 00:43:05,107 --> 00:43:09,072 620 00:43:09,107 --> 00:43:11,832 621 00:43:13,512 --> 00:43:17,118 that could be... 622 00:43:17,153 --> 00:43:22,953 From a songwriting viewpoint, most songwriters still are in awe of that record. 623 00:43:28,673 --> 00:43:35,997 624 00:43:36,032 --> 00:43:39,072 Blue is an overwhelming album. 625 00:43:39,107 --> 00:43:42,112 626 00:43:42,147 --> 00:43:44,832 627 00:43:46,112 --> 00:43:48,277 628 00:43:48,312 --> 00:43:51,993 All of a sudden, there's this woman writing about personal relationships 629 00:43:52,028 --> 00:43:55,010 on a very profound level, 630 00:43:55,045 --> 00:43:57,958 and it was deeply affecting. 631 00:43:57,993 --> 00:43:59,793 632 00:43:59,828 --> 00:44:01,878 633 00:44:01,913 --> 00:44:05,312 634 00:44:05,347 --> 00:44:07,869 635 00:44:07,904 --> 00:44:10,248 636 00:44:10,283 --> 00:44:12,558 637 00:44:12,593 --> 00:44:14,597 She changed the way I wrote, 638 00:44:14,632 --> 00:44:19,512 because I realised that it was OK to talk about what was happening in your heart, 639 00:44:19,547 --> 00:44:21,558 so that other people could go, 640 00:44:21,593 --> 00:44:26,352 "I know what you're saying. It happened to me the other day."Those kind of songs. 641 00:44:31,593 --> 00:44:34,238 A year after Joni Mitchell released Blue, 642 00:44:34,273 --> 00:44:38,993 Neil Young, an equally uncompromising singer-songwriter, 643 00:44:39,028 --> 00:44:40,433 produced a breakthrough record. 644 00:44:42,033 --> 00:44:45,273 Over the next 35 years, his relentless soul-searching 645 00:44:45,308 --> 00:44:48,712 would underpin an unpredictable musical journey. 646 00:44:50,793 --> 00:44:52,872 These guys will do anything for a laugh. 647 00:44:55,984 --> 00:44:58,748 648 00:44:58,783 --> 00:45:01,477 649 00:45:01,512 --> 00:45:07,992 a heart of gold... 650 00:45:08,027 --> 00:45:09,997 Harvest was a huge success 651 00:45:10,032 --> 00:45:12,953 and it kind of put Neil on the map in a very profound way. 652 00:45:12,988 --> 00:45:20,513 a heart of gold 653 00:45:20,548 --> 00:45:22,592 654 00:45:24,232 --> 00:45:29,712 But immediately after, there were some tragedies. There was a roadie named Bruce Berry, 655 00:45:29,747 --> 00:45:34,477 and then there was Danny Whitten from Crazy Horse, 656 00:45:34,512 --> 00:45:36,992 both of whom OD'd in a short period of time, from heroin. 657 00:45:37,027 --> 00:45:39,829 658 00:45:39,864 --> 00:45:42,597 659 00:45:42,632 --> 00:45:48,558 a heart of gold... 660 00:45:48,593 --> 00:45:54,353 Neil, at the peak of his success in the marketplace, 661 00:45:54,388 --> 00:45:56,238 exorcised all his demons, 662 00:45:56,273 --> 00:45:59,592 and that was Tonight's The Night, which was, 663 00:45:59,627 --> 00:46:02,912 in some ways, the most imperfect record he made. 664 00:46:02,947 --> 00:46:06,513 665 00:46:08,392 --> 00:46:11,997 666 00:46:12,032 --> 00:46:14,998 He was rebelling against production. 667 00:46:15,033 --> 00:46:18,398 He said, "I wanna make a record, and I wanna do this live, 668 00:46:18,433 --> 00:46:22,272 "but I want people to hear it before the band knows what they're doing." 669 00:46:22,307 --> 00:46:24,997 670 00:46:25,032 --> 00:46:28,832 that Econoline van... 671 00:46:28,867 --> 00:46:30,678 So we went on tour, 672 00:46:30,713 --> 00:46:34,792 and everyone expected that he would play all the songs from Harvest. 673 00:46:34,827 --> 00:46:37,518 The Eagles were the opening act. 674 00:46:37,553 --> 00:46:40,772 The Eagles came out and were fucking great. 675 00:46:40,807 --> 00:46:44,500 in a shaky voice 676 00:46:44,535 --> 00:46:48,193 677 00:46:49,593 --> 00:46:52,557 678 00:46:52,592 --> 00:46:57,033 And then Neil came out and he did the Tonight's The Night album 679 00:46:57,068 --> 00:46:58,798 from beginning to end. 680 00:46:58,833 --> 00:47:01,598 He would say, "If you stick with this, 681 00:47:01,633 --> 00:47:05,033 "at the end I'll play songs that you've heard before." 682 00:47:05,068 --> 00:47:08,433 And then, at the end, he started the album over again! 683 00:47:10,032 --> 00:47:12,393 And that's when I knew I loved him. 684 00:47:12,428 --> 00:47:14,550 And the place emptied out. 685 00:47:14,585 --> 00:47:16,637 Pretty much every night! 686 00:47:16,672 --> 00:47:21,713 You know, it was fantastic. I never saw anyone do that. 687 00:47:21,748 --> 00:47:23,598 It was just awesome. 688 00:47:23,633 --> 00:47:27,633 It was just the power of his own belief and his own convictions, 689 00:47:27,668 --> 00:47:29,712 that he just didn't give a fuck. 690 00:47:29,747 --> 00:47:32,752 691 00:47:32,787 --> 00:47:34,233 692 00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:46,712 I guess I'm writing about a part of me that I don't know if I'll ever share. 693 00:47:46,747 --> 00:47:48,609 I don't know. 694 00:47:48,644 --> 00:47:50,437 It's just, um... 695 00:47:50,472 --> 00:47:53,193 I'm writing about, um... 696 00:47:54,552 --> 00:47:56,398 ..the way I feel inside 697 00:47:56,433 --> 00:47:59,557 and no matter how many people are around me... 698 00:47:59,592 --> 00:48:03,953 I keep talking about it, all the things that go on inside me, 699 00:48:03,988 --> 00:48:05,313 and, um... 700 00:48:07,392 --> 00:48:09,752 I guess by talking about it, it helps. 701 00:48:15,353 --> 00:48:17,993 Neil Young's low-fire rock'n'roll 702 00:48:18,028 --> 00:48:20,633 and Joni Mitchell's acoustic poetry 703 00:48:20,668 --> 00:48:22,998 sounded worlds apart, 704 00:48:23,033 --> 00:48:25,853 but they were both serious, sensitive musicians 705 00:48:25,888 --> 00:48:28,638 whose songwriting was intensely self-centred. 706 00:48:28,673 --> 00:48:33,637 They led a new generation of ruthlessly single-minded artists 707 00:48:33,672 --> 00:48:39,473 and prompted a radical change in the commercial strategy of LA's music industry. 708 00:48:41,873 --> 00:48:44,438 In the early days of Warner Reprise, 709 00:48:44,473 --> 00:48:48,033 the label had signed artists like Neil Young and Randy Newman 710 00:48:48,068 --> 00:48:49,598 and Joni Mitchell, 711 00:48:49,633 --> 00:48:53,632 and I think the label became aware that those artists had a vision, 712 00:48:53,667 --> 00:48:57,238 and it wasn't just a creative musical vision. 713 00:48:57,273 --> 00:49:02,393 It had to do with who they were and how they were represented and how they were perceived. 714 00:49:02,428 --> 00:49:05,797 Warner Reprise - part of Warner Bros - 715 00:49:05,832 --> 00:49:10,252 and previously best-known as Frank Sinatra's record company, 716 00:49:10,287 --> 00:49:14,672 was the first to gamble on LA's uncompromising troubadours. 717 00:49:14,707 --> 00:49:16,913 It was a calculated risk. 718 00:49:16,948 --> 00:49:18,717 And it paid off. 719 00:49:18,752 --> 00:49:22,032 If you put out great records by great artists, 720 00:49:22,067 --> 00:49:23,958 regardless of what they did, 721 00:49:23,993 --> 00:49:27,033 as long as you weren't getting hurt too badly financially, 722 00:49:27,068 --> 00:49:29,992 that was a way of drawing other artists. 723 00:49:30,027 --> 00:49:33,190 724 00:49:33,225 --> 00:49:36,353 725 00:49:37,593 --> 00:49:42,198 this troubled world behind... 726 00:49:42,233 --> 00:49:47,552 I was in a band in New York for a while, after I finished high school 727 00:49:47,587 --> 00:49:52,872 and, um...when that broke up, I decided I'd like to travel a little bit, 728 00:49:52,907 --> 00:49:56,517 so I went over to London and, um... 729 00:49:56,552 --> 00:50:00,232 I...I found it very difficult to get work without having papers, 730 00:50:00,267 --> 00:50:04,890 so I decided instead that I'd like to make a record. 731 00:50:04,925 --> 00:50:09,513 she's been with me now 732 00:50:09,548 --> 00:50:11,610 733 00:50:11,645 --> 00:50:14,319 734 00:50:14,354 --> 00:50:16,958 735 00:50:16,993 --> 00:50:21,997 I was here in California and made a record deal for James 736 00:50:22,032 --> 00:50:26,033 with Warner Bros, choosing Warner Bros because of the cool people they had already, 737 00:50:26,068 --> 00:50:28,878 and because of the ads Stan Cornyn wrote, 738 00:50:28,913 --> 00:50:31,478 which were the coolest album ads we'd ever seen. 739 00:50:31,513 --> 00:50:36,072 James Taylor left Apple Records to be on Warner Bros. 740 00:50:36,107 --> 00:50:39,070 Apple was as hip as it could be 741 00:50:39,105 --> 00:50:42,033 and he wanted to be on our label. 742 00:50:46,112 --> 00:50:48,873 This was Sweet Baby James. This was amazing. 743 00:50:48,908 --> 00:50:53,033 744 00:50:53,068 --> 00:50:54,993 745 00:50:56,433 --> 00:51:01,152 They're his only companions... 746 00:51:01,187 --> 00:51:03,678 Sensitive lyrics, 747 00:51:03,713 --> 00:51:09,552 mellow music and the intriguing suggestion of a tortured soul 748 00:51:09,587 --> 00:51:13,352 made James Taylor LA's latest exile singer-songwriter 749 00:51:13,387 --> 00:51:15,592 a powerful artistic force. 750 00:51:17,153 --> 00:51:21,833 You moonlight ladies 751 00:51:21,868 --> 00:51:26,478 My Sweet Baby James... 752 00:51:26,513 --> 00:51:32,313 Neither James nor I have ever particularly liked the mellow, um, application, 753 00:51:32,348 --> 00:51:33,797 nor sensitive, 754 00:51:33,832 --> 00:51:36,912 because he's not that mellow and he's not that sensitive. 755 00:51:40,512 --> 00:51:47,033 But there is a contrast between a certain mellowness, for want of a better word, musically, 756 00:51:47,068 --> 00:51:50,033 with the fact that the lyrics are pretty intense. 757 00:51:50,068 --> 00:51:52,278 758 00:51:52,313 --> 00:51:55,077 759 00:51:55,112 --> 00:52:00,233 put an end to you 760 00:52:02,712 --> 00:52:05,317 761 00:52:05,352 --> 00:52:08,517 762 00:52:08,552 --> 00:52:11,632 There are lyrics about a friend who killed herself 763 00:52:11,667 --> 00:52:14,850 and experiences in a mental hospital and drugs, 764 00:52:14,885 --> 00:52:18,033 so the subject matter is not mellow at all. 765 00:52:18,068 --> 00:52:19,912 766 00:52:21,192 --> 00:52:26,033 would never end... 767 00:52:26,068 --> 00:52:28,313 He was a harder-core drug addict than any of us. 768 00:52:28,348 --> 00:52:30,998 Sweet Baby James was this fucking animal. 769 00:52:31,033 --> 00:52:35,392 He was a hippie junkie. And there was something about that mentality 770 00:52:35,427 --> 00:52:40,272 that, somehow or other, set him apart from everybody else. 771 00:52:40,307 --> 00:52:43,409 I remember saying to him one time, "It's a good thing 772 00:52:43,444 --> 00:52:46,512 "you're a fucking folk guy. If you were a rock'n'roller, 773 00:52:46,547 --> 00:52:48,558 "you'd have been dead years ago. 774 00:52:48,593 --> 00:52:53,593 "You can't behave like this without someone killing you, or killing yourself." 775 00:52:53,628 --> 00:52:58,117 and I've seen rain... 776 00:52:58,152 --> 00:53:03,558 Backed by musicians drawn from a pool known as the LA Mafia, 777 00:53:03,593 --> 00:53:07,873 James Taylor's first West Coast record stayed on the album charts 778 00:53:07,908 --> 00:53:09,278 for over 100 weeks, 779 00:53:09,313 --> 00:53:13,272 making the sensitive singer-songwriter front-page news, 780 00:53:13,307 --> 00:53:16,037 and, in the same year, 781 00:53:16,072 --> 00:53:21,753 a fellow East Coast exile released the most successful record that LA had ever produced. 782 00:53:21,788 --> 00:53:26,832 I know that many of you are admirers of James Taylor. 783 00:53:26,867 --> 00:53:28,398 I am myself. 784 00:53:28,433 --> 00:53:30,958 I'd like to get him out here to help me. 785 00:53:30,993 --> 00:53:34,992 He was kind enough to volunteer, so, come on, James! 786 00:53:37,472 --> 00:53:42,878 Carole King had made her name as one half of Goffen And King, 787 00:53:42,913 --> 00:53:48,873 a prolific partnership at the heart of New York's hit songwriting factory, the Brill Building. 788 00:53:51,552 --> 00:53:54,993 But in LA, she would undergo a radical re-invention. 789 00:53:55,028 --> 00:53:58,957 790 00:53:58,992 --> 00:54:05,553 any more...? 791 00:54:06,713 --> 00:54:10,673 Carole King, she played on Sweet Baby James, 792 00:54:10,708 --> 00:54:13,752 so Carole was a huge part of it. 793 00:54:13,787 --> 00:54:17,930 794 00:54:17,965 --> 00:54:22,038 795 00:54:22,073 --> 00:54:26,513 She wrote all the great songs that we all grew up learning, 796 00:54:26,548 --> 00:54:31,032 from Up On The Roof to One Fine Day to Natural Woman. 797 00:54:31,067 --> 00:54:33,757 I mean, she wrote everything. 798 00:54:33,792 --> 00:54:39,392 Carole King's transformation from writer-for-hire to introspective singer-songwriter 799 00:54:39,427 --> 00:54:43,552 exemplified the music industry's shift from New York to LA, 800 00:54:43,587 --> 00:54:46,638 from Brill Building to Laurel Canyon. 801 00:54:46,673 --> 00:54:51,833 moving along the highway... 802 00:54:54,553 --> 00:54:57,917 Tapestry spent a staggering 15 weeks at number one, 803 00:54:57,952 --> 00:55:03,513 confirming LA as the natural commercial and spiritual home for a new kind of popular artist. 804 00:55:05,313 --> 00:55:08,693 I think it's fair to say that Los Angeles had every intention 805 00:55:08,728 --> 00:55:12,073 of becoming the place to bring that heightened individuality 806 00:55:12,108 --> 00:55:15,278 of the singer-songwriter to the fore. 807 00:55:15,313 --> 00:55:19,513 We developed a thing out here called "the heat behind the beat", 808 00:55:19,548 --> 00:55:23,713 and those were the attorneys who made this whole thing possible. 809 00:55:23,748 --> 00:55:27,038 The idea of self-publishing, for example. 810 00:55:27,073 --> 00:55:30,032 The new autonomies that were available to the singer-songwriter. 811 00:55:30,067 --> 00:55:31,952 These things were codified out here. 812 00:55:34,912 --> 00:55:36,517 By the end of 1971, 813 00:55:36,552 --> 00:55:41,072 LA was the centre of a multi-million-dollar music business 814 00:55:41,107 --> 00:55:43,232 increasingly driven by its songwriters... 815 00:55:45,152 --> 00:55:49,518 ..and among the city's community of self-absorbed artists, 816 00:55:49,553 --> 00:55:53,753 one young musician emerged as the voice of the collective conscience. 817 00:55:53,788 --> 00:55:58,152 I remember I got an 8 x 10 glossy of this really cute guy 818 00:55:58,187 --> 00:56:00,150 with a demo, and I thought, 819 00:56:00,185 --> 00:56:02,078 "Can't beat Bob Dylan." 820 00:56:02,113 --> 00:56:06,272 Then my secretary listened to it and called me up the next day and said, 821 00:56:06,307 --> 00:56:09,593 "You ought to listen to that tape. That guy is really good." 822 00:56:09,628 --> 00:56:12,353 823 00:56:12,388 --> 00:56:15,037 824 00:56:15,072 --> 00:56:19,197 where the shadows fell... 825 00:56:19,232 --> 00:56:23,673 Jackson Browne had moved the short distance from Orange County 826 00:56:23,708 --> 00:56:25,593 to Los Angeles in 1966, 827 00:56:25,628 --> 00:56:27,997 aged just 17. 828 00:56:28,032 --> 00:56:31,553 He was soon a popular and much-admired favourite 829 00:56:31,588 --> 00:56:35,110 of the Laurel Canyon community. 830 00:56:35,145 --> 00:56:38,597 831 00:56:38,632 --> 00:56:44,172 There was a couple of years that I had offers, but didn't feel that I was really ready. 832 00:56:44,207 --> 00:56:49,713 I had it demonstrated to me really early that it took a lot of intention to make records, 833 00:56:49,748 --> 00:56:52,673 and that one couldn't just drift into the studio 834 00:56:52,708 --> 00:56:56,557 like our legendary heroes did 835 00:56:56,592 --> 00:57:00,512 and sit down, and, for $250, make your first masterpiece. 836 00:57:00,547 --> 00:57:04,433 I heard about Jackson through a woman named Pamela Polland - 837 00:57:04,468 --> 00:57:07,317 P-O-L-L-A-N-D. Gentle soul. 838 00:57:07,352 --> 00:57:13,553 Pamela's in Hawaii. When I found Pamela, Pamela said, "If you think I'M good, 839 00:57:13,588 --> 00:57:15,753 "you ought to find Jackson Browne." 840 00:57:18,833 --> 00:57:21,873 Musically, he was tremendously respected, 841 00:57:21,908 --> 00:57:23,557 and really a touchstone 842 00:57:23,592 --> 00:57:26,873 for a lot of the new genre of singer-songwriter. 843 00:57:26,908 --> 00:57:30,233 844 00:57:32,072 --> 00:57:36,432 Confessional lyrics, beautiful poetry, and wondering why the world is so screwed up 845 00:57:36,467 --> 00:57:38,917 and why your life is screwed up. 846 00:57:38,952 --> 00:57:44,918 He's an incredibly important seminal artist of our times. 847 00:57:44,953 --> 00:57:48,953 When Jackson wrote, "Please don't confront me with my failures, 848 00:57:48,988 --> 00:57:51,770 "I've not forgotten them," 849 00:57:51,805 --> 00:57:54,517 and he was only 17, you know! 850 00:57:54,552 --> 00:57:58,632 851 00:57:58,667 --> 00:58:02,797 852 00:58:02,832 --> 00:58:07,558 Good grief! You're writing like you're a man of 60! 853 00:58:07,593 --> 00:58:12,633 "Don't confront me with my failures, I've not forgotten them." 854 00:58:14,393 --> 00:58:15,952 Wonderful. 855 00:58:15,987 --> 00:58:17,477 Wonderful! 856 00:58:17,512 --> 00:58:22,792 Jackson Browne had the talent, charisma and looks to be a star. 857 00:58:24,593 --> 00:58:28,277 What he didn't have was a recording contract. 858 00:58:28,312 --> 00:58:33,672 David Geffen had been a manager and an agent, and he'd been well-versed in the different aspects of that... 859 00:58:33,707 --> 00:58:36,037 music business. 860 00:58:36,072 --> 00:58:40,113 I think he was going to put me to Columbia or Atlantic. 861 00:58:40,148 --> 00:58:41,993 Suddenly, I decided... 862 00:58:42,028 --> 00:58:43,957 Hell, I'll do it! 863 00:58:43,992 --> 00:58:50,238 I went to see Ahmet Ertegun, played the tapes and said, "You should sign him. You'll make a lot of money." 864 00:58:50,273 --> 00:58:57,632 He said, "I have a lot of money. Why don't you start a record company? You could have a lot of money." So I did. 865 00:58:57,667 --> 00:59:01,392 We use independent producers, or we let the artist produce themselves. Whatever they want. 866 00:59:01,427 --> 00:59:03,598 It's a very artist-oriented company 867 00:59:03,633 --> 00:59:06,837 and whatever they want to do, we support them. 868 00:59:06,872 --> 00:59:10,992 What I like the most were people who sang their own songs. 869 00:59:11,027 --> 00:59:16,072 That's what they all had in common at Asylum Records. 870 00:59:16,107 --> 00:59:18,850 That was the...gestalt of the day. 871 00:59:18,885 --> 00:59:21,558 He was also everybody's manager, too. 872 00:59:21,593 --> 00:59:24,197 Later, we had people grumbling about conflict of interest 873 00:59:24,232 --> 00:59:31,032 but there was no conflict of interest because I don't think he ever charged any of us for management. 874 00:59:31,067 --> 00:59:32,197 He was our patron, you know. 875 00:59:32,232 --> 00:59:35,832 The medici. The medici of rock'n'roll. 876 00:59:38,073 --> 00:59:40,517 877 00:59:40,552 --> 00:59:45,472 without crying 878 00:59:45,507 --> 00:59:49,518 879 00:59:49,553 --> 00:59:53,052 Asylum's artist-driven ethos was anathema 880 00:59:53,087 --> 00:59:56,517 to the conventions of the music business, 881 00:59:56,552 --> 01:00:00,312 and Geffen's approach to AandR was typically direct. 882 01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:04,038 David realised that other musicians are very often 883 01:00:04,073 --> 01:00:08,473 an extremely important source for finding out about new talent. 884 01:00:12,512 --> 01:00:16,517 Went over to his house, played some songs to him. Yes. 885 01:00:16,552 --> 01:00:20,952 He knew that when Jackson told him about John David Souther, 886 01:00:20,987 --> 01:00:25,353 or whichever order it happened in, he really paid attention. 887 01:00:25,388 --> 01:00:28,357 I don't think that every record that we make is a hit, 888 01:00:28,392 --> 01:00:33,593 or that every artist is going to be a star, but I think the music we put out is very valid. 889 01:00:33,628 --> 01:00:35,913 I thought, "Wow. This is just the way you think it's gonna work. 25427

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