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Kate going to social services

has nothing to do with
her childhood,

or Caitlin's wellbeing.

It's about Carl.

A couple of weeks ago,

he came round
to fix one of our windows.

We had pizza, Caitlin helped out.

It weirdly felt like
being a family again.

Well, he was supposed to be home
by eight.

Turns out, it was more like ten,

and he said the next day
he'd got it in the neck.

Apparently, Kate was livid.
Screaming at him.

And how was Kate with you?

Fine. Her usually friendly self.

Though she was just
biding her time.

Cos she filmed that footage
of me and Caitlin two days later.

And you don't think
that was a coincidence?

No.

I think it was revenge.

Kate is pathologically jealous,

possessive, if you will,
when it comes to Carl.

She just can't help herself.

Any threat to the relationship
is a threat to her.

The only difference
between Anna and now

is she's learnt to conceal it.
To plan for it, to bide her time.

Exhibit A - Find the Gemma campaign.

She's left nothing to chance
this time.

Which is why
we can't find Gemma's body.

And why Anna's still potentially
the weak spot.

...finding out about your affair?

If Kate knew about you and Gemma,
maybe she did something about it?

No. Detective...

...Kate is a passionate,
emotional person, OK?

But she's not violent.

I hear you, Carl.

But I also appreciate
that she's your wife

and the mother of your child,
so what I'm suggesting...

What you're suggesting is crazy,
and I'm being polite now.

It's completely crazy, OK?

DCI Conroy joining the interview.

I wanna go back to your first wife
for a moment.

In the weeks
before Anna disappeared,

a woman was harassing her.

Could that woman have been Kate,
and not the barmaid you were seeing?

No.

So, just to be clear,
based on Anna's description,

there's no way
it was Kate bothering her.

OK, just to be clear,
Kate never came to Westport.

Plus our relationship, fling,

ended months before
Anna disappeared.

Is that how Kate saw it?

- What?
- A fling?

Oh, my God!

- OK...
- Are you really gonna tell us

that Janice's presence in Westport

on the day that Anna disappeared,
vanished,

has nothing to do with Kate?

Our working theory
is that she was down there

cleaning up Kate's mess.

And making Anna disappear.

What Gemma and Anna had in common
is very clear.

They were a threat -
obstacles to be removed,

so Kate could have you
all to herself.

I made a promise once.

Twas the night before
we left for England,

when Anna's parents invited us over.

Her dad, he said he couldn't
blame us for going, but...

...he made me and Pavel promise
to always take care of Anna.

I did. I did promise.

Whatever the precise
details of their deaths,

the common factor here is Kate.

Yeah, I want to talk to my lawyer.

Interview suspended, 14:16.

We need firm evidence against Kate.

Which Carl is in a unique position
to get.

He's the only person
that she can't hide from.

How does any of this help us?

It doesn't,
unless we exploit his position.

We need to put a wire on him.

And use him to get a confession
from Kate.

No way. Forget it.

Just from a legal
and safeguarding standpoint.

OK, ma'am...

Legally, it's unorthodox,
but it's not unprecedented.

And as for the risk,
Carl has a cool head,

a world-class poker face,
and on top of that, he's motivated.

What else have we got?

I'm DC Martin Young.

I work in Surveillance,
and I have a proposition for you.

We need your help.

It will involve
you wearing a recording device

and returning to your family home.

We need to know
what happened to Anna and Gemma.

And frankly,
you're in the best position

to help Kate
tell her side of the story.

To get the truth out of her.

Of betraying her?

If she's innocent,
you can prove us wrong.

I don't recommend
you co-operate with this.

I've done a boiler-plate
risk assessment,

but it needs some love.

The ACC's a details man,
so bury him in minutiae,

or we'll never get it past him.

I called Jim Owens at Firearms.

So, this is
"dangerous, but not that dangerous".

So, no snipers.

But he's gonna make sure there's
a couple of ARVs patrolling nearby.

I want everything in the street
kept as normal as possible, OK?

No interruptions.

You OK with all that, Stella?

Be happier if certain
interested parties

were detained elsewhere, boss.

Greg?

And Janice. To name but two.

Everything all right
between you two?

- Fine, boss.
- Good.

CID can yank Greg
on a dozen different pretexts,

and Janice must figure in
some cold case files?

What about Carl?

What about him?

What's the contingency plan?

If he gets cold feet?

The first thing I wanna say
is thank you.

We understand the magnitude
of what we're asking.

So, we'll be able to hear you
via an earpiece,

and you'll be able to hear us.

I want you to, loosely,
follow this script,

which has been tailor-made
to elicit a confession.

Try not to change the subject.

And try not to ask questions
that are too specific or loaded.

And if you do ask questions...

...try not to make them consecutive.

Stay away from the windows,
but if you...

Huh. It's Kate.

OK, let's just treat this
as a rehearsal, OK?

A what? What do I say?

The police made a mistake,
they've let you go,

you'll see her at home.
Short and sweet.

Hi, babe.

Where are you?
Are you OK?

Hey, everything's fine.

Stupid police made a mistake,
now they've released me.

What... What happened?

We'll talk about it at home, OK?
I've got to go now.

OK, I-I-I'm just dropping Chloe
at the pool,

so, I'll see you at home...

- I love you.
- Love you too, babe.

Good.

- OK, say something for me.
- Hello?

OK, great.

When you get home,
I want you to open your back door,

put your front door on the latch,

and open a ground floor window
about two inches.

Something we learned from
the more experienced house-breakers.

It's good to have
multiple points of exit

- in case anything goes wrong.
- "Goes wrong"?

It's just a precaution.

You OK?

My friend, this is Kate
we're talking about. Just look at me...

- Yeah.
- Hey. Hey!

The love of my life,

- the mother of my daughter.
- I understand that...

- OK?
- Yes.

- OK.
- Uh-uh.

Kurwa...
Tell me, how am I supposed to...

Kurwa!

I can't do it. No.

Carl, I understand your feelings.

I understand your feelings,
I don't blame you.

- But this is a way we can find out...
- Martin...

- ...what happened to Anna.
- ..Martin...

- You, know, it's not...
- Hey, hey, hey, hey...

It's no.

Bring him in.

I want you to keep your promise.

Yeah, that's great.
Uniform has Janice.

Copy, team in place.

Should be ship-shape
in the next 10-15, over.

Kate's still at the pool.

We'll give you a heads-up
when she's leaving.

Roly's gonna be
the welcome party at CID.

You guys all right down there?

Keep Greg occupied
till we're done and dusted, over.

All set.

The ARV's incoming,

but they know
to keep their distance.

OK, feed's up and they're back.

Here.

Oh, cheers.

Can I have a word - now.

Sure.

Vic, you'll let me know
if anything happens?

Yeah, I will do.

What is this about?

She has to go - now.

- Why?
- Don't make me spell this out.

To you, or to anyone else.

I see.

Don't put me in this position, mate.

Sort it out.

Hey, hey...

- I'm so sorry about that in there, just...
- Don't worry.

Yeah, you know, sometimes I just...

I love you.

Hey, good luck.

Sierra One to Charlie.

Thank you.

Tuckman's van approaching.

Good luck.

OK.

Now we just wait for Kate.

Thanks for popping by, Greg.
Please take a seat.

Erm, basically...

...we're reaching a challenging phase

in the search for Gemma.

One that requires, erm,
transparency and trust.

You want me to stop
slagging you off to the media?

Ideally.

Erm... but it's more a case of
what we can share with you.

Such as?

Erm...

We've identified
a school in Andalusia...

...where Gemma had secured a job,

using the name Jacqueline Fielding.

So far, she hasn't turned up,

and I know it's important
not to get your hopes up...

I don't have any hope.

Not anymore.

It's too painful.

Sure...

...I understand.

I'm really sorry.
I'll be back in two minutes.

Erm, thanks for calling back.

We're under a certain amount
of time pressure, so...

Can you give me an update

on Kate's location, please?

This is Unit One,

Suspect Kate Tuckman
is just leaving the sports centre.

She's driving south on the A34.
Looks like she's heading home.

OK, now unlock the gate.

Good, now head upstairs.

- Is the earpiece OK?
- Yeah, yeah.

Kate arriving
in the street imminently, over.

Fiona, hi. Thank you.

That's it, just act natural, love.

Oh, it's no problem.

I've got to be somewhere,
can I call you later?

Yeah, sure.

Carl?

Up here.

I've been trying to call you.

I thought you might need a lift.

It's on silent.

Right.

So, what happened?

Same old stuff about Gemma.

How well did I know her,
when did I last see her...

Well, they must've had
something new?

Not really, no.

- Carl...
- Huh...

Yeah.

Maybe Greg's news interview
wasn't such a good idea.

Hm. Yeah.

And all the nutters
are coming out the woodwork,

but no-one
that's gonna help find Gemma.

OK, you need to take control
of the conversation,

ask her to sit down.

Can you sit down for a moment?

Yeah.

The police know you killed Anna.

- What... Anna?
- Don't. Just...

You killed Anna,
and Janice helped you clear up.

They can't prove it,
but they know.

And now I know.

Maybe I always did.

- I thought you gave him a script?
- I did give him a script!

Look, I don't know what the police
have been telling you,

- what games they're trying to play...
- Sit down. Sit, sit down.

I have something to tell you.

OK.

You are the love of my life
and the mother of my child,

nothing can change that.

But what does that love mean

if we can't be honest and truthful
with each other?

Take your time, don't rush,

but impress on her you'll
only get through this as a couple

if she comes clean.

I always said your love is...
something special, it's rare.

I knew that from the start.
But I was a coward.

Told myself what we had in Liverpool
was just a fling.

I should never have gone back
to Anna.

I should have followed my heart.

But I'm not as brave as you are.

OK, move on to Gemma now.
That was your fault, too.

Gemma was nothing...

Just me wanting to know
I still had it.

I kidded myself
I could get away with it,

hide it from you. But how could I?

How could I hide anything
from you?

Good. Anna and Gemma.
They're both your responsibility

in every way that matters.
Tell her that, OK? Reassure her.

Anna and Gemma, whatever happened...

...they're on me,
in every way that matters.

But I need to know the truth.

Everything that happened,
otherwise... we can't move forward.

I need to know the truth.

I'm sorry.

We have incoming.

Greg Sullivan's car
has just entered the street.

What the hell happened, Roly?

Greg's about to turn up
at your front door -

get rid of him.

- No, don't move. I'll get it.
- Carl, wait.

- It's just Greg.
- How do you know?

Can I come in?

- It's Kate I need to see.
- Greg. You need to go - now.

- Hey! They're looking at Kate now.
- Don't tell me that's news to you.

Kate!

What did he want?

I don't know.

How did you know it was Greg?

I didn't. I... must've
heard his voice, I don't know.

Carl, what's going on?

I don't wanna talk about Greg
right now, OK?!

If we're gonna survive this...

If we're going to have a future,
a clean slate...

...there's no room for secrets.

Do you mean that?

Course I mean it.

The only way to kill a secret
is to share it. Set it free.

I think that depends on the secret.

After you finished with me,

I went to confront her.

I can't begin to imagine, or...

remember...

why I thought Anna would
want to hear what I had to say.

I know it sounds mad, but...

I was so in love with you.

And I thought that she'd see it.

I-I thought that she would...

that she'd recognise it,
that she would understand.

- But she didn't?
- No.

She told me to piss off.

Of course she did.

I don't give up, Carl.
You know that.

Yeah.

Greg's got a knife.

Clocked it.

Has Greg come out the back?
No sign up front.

Negative.
No sign at the back.

- I need you to take over.
- What?

I went back with a plan,
a fucking brainwave.

I-I was gonna buy her out.
I was gonna pay her off.

Pay her off?

To leave you.

It's what my dad did
when he hit a bump in the road.

It worked for him every time.

Pavel was there,
so I didn't ring the doorbell.

In fact, I was gonna turn round
and go home.

But Anna went for a run.

I followed her. To the beach.

But this time...

she wasn't angry.

She just laughed at me.

I thought it was because I wasn't
offering her enough money.

But that just made her laugh louder.

Harder.

What did you do, Kate?

Just tell me, OK?

I just wanted her to stop laughing.

Carl, this is DC Beckett.

Listen, I need you to press her

on exactly what it was
that made Anna stop laughing.

I need to hear it, Kate.

Do you?

Yeah.

If I tell you, Carl,
you can't un-hear it...

I said I need to hear it!

Don't! I'm pregnant.

I'm pregnant.

The police?

Oh, shit.

Martin.

Come in, Martin. Where are you?

Control 211.
What's going on? Are we moving in?

Negative. I repeat, negative.
All units stand down.

I'm at the back of the Tuckmans'.

Roger. We've lost comms
on Carl. Can you get close?

The police? They don't know anything.

- Are they here? Are they listening?
- Not now.

But I want to know. Right now.

Or I swear to God, Kate,

if you don't,
you will never see me again.

I felt ridiculous.

She was still laughing
when she walked away,

- and I just lost it.
- What did you do?

I picked up the rock...

...and I hit her.

Just once.

Once was all it took.

I'm sorry.

I'm so sorry, Carl.

And Gemma?

- I knew that you were fucking her.
- So where is she?

What did you do?

Guv?

- See you later.
- See you.

Bye, son.

How's Caitlin?

Oh, you know what she's like -
asking loads of questions.

What's this?

That guy is from Hayley.

- Aw, sweet.
- Yeah, well...

Stella hasn't come to see me, so...

CPS are gonna accept my testimony
to Kate's confession.

You know, there was some doubt,
obviously,

- cos of the stabbing.
- Confession...?

Yeah, about Anna,

- Carl's first wife.
- What about Gemma?

CID are building the case
against Kate,

and Hayley thinks
we'll get a conviction.

Listen, do you wanna maybe...

do something, go somewhere,
when I'm discharged?

Y'know, just...

With or without Caitlin?

With Caitlin.

Yeah. I'd... I'd love that.

I'll, erm... Just...

No, no, no. Stay.

- I'll go grab a sandwich, or something.
- OK.

- Zoe?
- Mm?

With Sarah...

Don't worry about anything
on that front, OK?

OK. Thank you.

- Hey, Caitlin, how are you?
- Good.

Mum's popped out.
We ran out of olive oil.

Oh. I could've picked some up
for you.

- What's in there?
- Between you and me, your mum

has not been very good at watering
the downstairs plants, has she?

She's always on at me to remind her.

Well, you haven't been doing it,
missy,

so I've brought
some home-made mulch.

That way, I can save the ones
that are still on life-support.

Were you on life-support?

You know, in the hospital?

Nah. Wasn't that bad.

Right. Are you gonna come
and help me save the plants?

I'd love to,
but I've got to stir the sauce.

I'll get you the keys, though.

Yeah.

It's just scribbles in a book,
Martin...

It was an accident.

Why should I believe you?

I-I kept telling you
that it wasn't Greg, didn't I?

I-I kept telling you.

Shit.

Oh, my God,
what's going to happen with Caitlin?

I don't know.

Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh.

Zoe, I need to know
why this happened,

and I need to know
how this happened.

I just need to know.

Yeah.

What if...

What if we just went upstairs?

We could just go upstairs...
and have dinner

and wake up in the morning
and pretend nothing happened?

Please.

We could do that, Martin.

I just...

I just need to know. Now.

She saw me.

I-I'd been watching her for weeks.
Months. And...

that night, she saw me.

Gemma, yeah?

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

Yeah.

And then, Greg, I saw him leave.

And it was then that she saw me.

- What are you doing, Zoe?
- Sorry?

- I saw you watching me.
- What're you on about?

- That wasn't you with the binoculars, then?
- Gemma...

- Listen...
- How long have you been spying on me?

I'm not. It...
It's not what it looks like, OK?

You're gonna need to explain.

You have got no idea
what my life is like, OK?

Work. Home. Caitlin. That's it.

That's all I've got.

And I don't want to feel sorry
for myself, because I love her.

Course I do.
There's just so much time, you know?

And... I'm just waiting
for something to happen.

And I didn't think that me and Tim
weren't forever.

You're drunk.

- We've all got problems, Zoe.
- Yeah...

Yeah, except my problems are real.

And you know that how?

From watching me?

Look, you and Greg, it wasn't
that long ago you were happy.

It's years since we were happy.

I-I just don't want you
to make the same mistake I have...

I'm nothing like you, Zoe.

I'm not a needy alcoholic, for one.

THAT'S why Tim left.

You're always dragging him down.

Wh... He said that?

- Yeah.
- That's bullshit. Because...

- Look, I sympathise...
- All right, what about you?

Fucking a married man.
Do you feel good about that?

No, I feel shit about it.

I feel grubby and shit and stupid.

- I'm missing the part...
- It hasn't stopped you!

I'm no home-wrecker, Zoe.

Wonder what Kate'll say about that?

Are you threatening me?

It sounds like, er...

Sounds like Gemma
was being quite aggressive.

- Yeah?
- Mm-hm.

Did she push you? Er...

Did she... Did she hit you?
Anything?

I mean, is there - is there any -
is there any chance

that she made physical contact
with you first?

She didn't touch me.

Is Caitlin here?

Social Services called the school
about your drinking.

"Alcoholism and neglectful
parenting", to be precise.

- Can't tell you any more, I'm sorry.
- Social Services...

- Social Services?
- Get a grip.

Gemma, I'm a good mum!
Gemma.

One call to Social Services,
and she's gone forever.

No!

Oh, my...

I killed her,

and...

somehow, my body just took over
and knew what to do.

Oh...

What about Kate? Remember you said
how pissed off Kate was

because Carl came round
to fix your window?

- What was that?
- I-I'm not proud of that.

You...
You were getting closer, and...

I was getting scared.

You know...

You know, you actually gave me hope.

You made me trust my instincts
again.

You know, for...

for a little bit, you made me feel
like a normal person.

- And now you just...
- Please.

Listen to me.

I really...

wanted to tell you.

I really wanted
to tell you the truth.

OK?

But you wanted to protect Caitlin
more.

Yeah.

I'm sorry, Martin.

I'm sorry.

We could just have dinner and go to bed.

And wake up in the morning
and pretend it didn't happen.

I like it when we all sit down
for dinner.

Yeah, me too.
It's civilised, isn't it?

We should do it more often.

One day, I found 50 grand in a bin!

How did it get there?

Someone just
accidentally knocked it in.

...I hope you realise,

we were dealing with
the most incapable jewel thief EVER.

But the kicker is,
we can't actually catch him.

What did you do?

I sent him a text.

"Dear Sir, we've recovered
some diamonds belonging to you..."

Oh, dessert!

- What is for dessert?
- Cheesecake.

I like the sound of that.

Oh, also, I heard that

there are fireworks going off
in Alexandra Park tonight.

Can we go?

Can we? Please?

I just...
I need to make a phone call.

Yeah.

Why don't you, um,
go in the other room? Be quieter.

Come on, mate.