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Previously on The West Wing:
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Sir, I've drawn up a letter
of resignation.
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I can't accept your resignation.
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I have to fire you.
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Obviously there will be a partisan push
to probe past Toby...
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...to cause us more difficulty.
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I'm offering... Well, not so much
offering as dragooning you...
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...to be the new White House
communications director.
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- What are you doing here?
- The agenda was debate negotiations.
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The Republicans have nominated
a pro-choice, anti-God candidate.
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- Vinick is gonna have some good days.
- We're giving him too many.
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Do you realize how few voters
actually read that rag?
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The New York Times?
Every network-news producer reads it.
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Every columnist reads it.
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Can't run a campaign for
editorial writers. We'd have 12 votes.
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That Times piece was 10 times worse
for Vinick.
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He's the one dragging his feet
on debate negotiations.
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He rejected
the debate commission's plan.
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They called it a classic case
of trying to sit on a lead.
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I can see why it's classic.
He's been leading for two months now.
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I don't know why the Times slammed us.
We're doing everything we can.
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The dates Vinick wants,
the locations Vinick wants.
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It's starting to look like
I'm desperate to debate him.
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- Will you stop?
- I am just saying...
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...watch it with the body parts.
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You're the next president
of the United States.
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- Don't say that.
- You have a standard to uphold.
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- She held out her forearm.
- You signed higher than her forearm.
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At which body part
do you draw the line?
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- Bruno, help me out here.
- The guy's a rock star.
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David Cassidy meets David Rockefeller.
All those body-parts votes.
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He's the next president
of the United States.
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Would you please stop saying that?
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Vinick is a terrific debater.
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And every time he backs away
from the negotiating table...
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...every time his aides
tells The New York Times...
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...that I'm the greatest
since Socrates...
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...they're lowering expectations
on his performance and raising mine.
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He doesn't need the debates, we do.
There's no way to hide that.
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What good are debates
if I have to demolish him to win?
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I have another negotiating session
with Bruno tomorrow.
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Break the logjam.
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- And lower expectations.
- Okay, those are contradictory orders.
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The more I give to get an agreement,
the more it's...
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Get it done.
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Santos pulled out of North Dakota
and West Virginia.
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There is not a state
we're not competing in.
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We could win all 50.
Get used to it, senator.
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Neither of you is worried
about this Times editorial.
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Nope.
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They're calling me
"the roadblock to democracy."
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We still have a shot
at the Times' endorsement.
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We're gonna get a deal on debates
soon enough, and on our terms.
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The Times is just rapping us
on the knuckles.
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The governor of New York called,
urging you to...
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- I'm not going to the Al Smith Dinner.
- Presidential nominees always go.
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No one's thrilled
about vice-presidential candidates.
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- You know what they're gonna want.
- Biggest event in New York.
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Obviously a huge deal
in the Catholic community.
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You could go. Speak about your
opposition to partial-birth abortion.
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Oh, bad idea.
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I'm not gonna give a speech about
partial-birth abortion...
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...to people who think
any abortion's a sin.
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New York's competitive.
Catholic vote's critical.
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And I'm pro-choice, same as Santos.
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I'd be crazy to engage this issue.
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You've got another call
from New York about...
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Have Josh return it.
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- Who's Al Smith anyway?
- First Catholic to run for president, 1928.
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- Why's the dinner such a big deal?
- It's a big benefit for Catholic charities.
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It's the most political
nonpolitical event in New York.
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Ballroom full of Catholics?
Should be your crowd.
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- Vinick doesn't even go to church.
- It's just what I need, huh?
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A contest over who gets
the most boos for:
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"I support a woman's right
to choose. " Leo will handle it.
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- Six o'clock wake-up?
- Make it 5:30.
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- Through Ohio. While Senator Vinick
is back in Washington tonight...
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... Congressman Matthew Santos
is in Michigan...
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... fighting for the state's
17 electoral votes.
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As the electoral map narrows, you
can bet they'll both be in Michigan...
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Why are we talking about
the environment in Michigan?
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- You talk about it everywhere.
- It's Michigan.
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- Hug a tree, kill a Chrysler.
- We're four points up there.
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We don't need to get hit
for pandering.
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You wanna spend a few minutes
on thank-you notes for New Mexico?
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No, I got the list. It's been a great day.
Why don't you guys rest.
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- Are you sure?
- Yeah, go ahead.
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- Okay, see you.
- Okay.
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- Matthew Santos is in Michigan...
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... fighting for the state's
17 electoral votes.
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As the electoral map narrows...
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... you can bet they'll both
be in Michigan more and more.
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We'll be right back after this.
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This November,
America faces a vote of conscience.
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Matt Santos on human life:
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Do I wanna limit access
to abortion? No.
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- Turn on MSNBC.
- "No" on telling you...
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... when your daughter wants an abortion.
"No" on banning partial-birth abortions.
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I need Sheila.
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Paid for by the Committee
for the Integrity of Human Life.
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Who the hell is the Committee
for the Integrity of Human Life?
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And who told them to drag abortion
into my campaign?
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It's a bareknuckled attack ad.
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- It's not our ad.
- The public won't make the distinction.
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You think some left-leaning committee
isn't gonna slam us right back?
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- Then we're in a negative ad war.
- Plus, they're hitting Santos...
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...for what a lot of Republicans
think is my position on abortion.
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The ad does lay out
some pretty clear differences.
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Which may play great
to a few right-wing partisans.
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It'll look phony and political
to everyone else.
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I want this ad pulled. I want
the chairman of the Republican Party...
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...to say this committee does not
speak for us. I'll say it too.
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If any of our people
are involved on this, fire them.
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- It's out of context.
- You remember the quote?
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I remember what I think. This seems
like I'm for abortion on demand.
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- I'm not defending it.
- It's a right-wing parody.
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- We'll find whatever footage...
- Find it tonight.
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It'll be hard to rebut.
You voted against the ban.
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Republicans wouldn't carve out
an exception for the life of the mother.
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- You voted against parental consent.
- No judicial override.
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There are pro-life judges refusing
requests, even for incest victims.
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- I am not for unlimited abortion.
- Look, I don't know how we respond...
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...but by tomorrow this is gonna be on
every cable network across the country.
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As news, for free.
It's gonna hurt us with swing voters.
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If he's taking the gloves off, so can we.
Twenty years of Senate flip-flops.
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- It's fair game. No one can say it's not.
- Josh?
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- We don't know Vinick's behind this.
- He benefits from it.
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If we turn this campaign full-tilt
negative, we can never go back.
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Call Vinick's people.
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Tell them to call this a lie
and get it off the air.
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I want a counterattack ready to go
by morning if they don't.
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I'm not comfortable
in Toby's office.
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Think of it as the
communications director's office.
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I can't help thinking of it
as a federal crime scene.
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Have we heard from policy shops?
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This Toby story will drown out
everything...
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...but then we'll need new policy.
- DPC says they're tapped out.
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They say we should highlight
the good things the government's doing.
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Oh, great. Wait till people find out
there's a post office.
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President's going on a tour
of distressed urban areas...
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...to promote jobs in inner cities.
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- I'll announce it next week.
- Today at your first briefing.
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- You don't want that today.
- I do.
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I need to get up to speed.
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I don't know the first thing
about the leak investigation.
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Refer those questions to Counsel.
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Those questions?
What about the entire briefing?
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We have to show we've replaced
Toby without missing a beat.
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There's an ongoing investigation.
There's not much we can say.
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Congressman, there's an independent
ad attacking you on abortion.
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It's a complete distortion
of my views.
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What do we know?
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The Committee for the Integrity
of Human Life is a 527.
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One of these "independent"
expenditure committees.
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- No connection to us or the RNC?
- I wouldn't say that.
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Its major donors all give to the RNC.
And a few are big donors of yours too.
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- You talk to the party chair?
- Hodder won't denounce it.
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- Thinks it would be bad for us.
- Has he seen it?
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He wants us to get into a mud-wrestling
match with Matt Santos?
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The chairman's view is that
it fires up social conservatives.
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Reminds them that,
while you may be pro-choice...
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...Santos is for virtually
unrestricted abortion.
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You have to denounce it yourself
before a huge bank of cameras.
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- You want this piece of trash on the air?
- No.
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But I don't want you or anyone else
criticizing pro-life anything.
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We are trying to win a mandate in
a country that is 60 percent pro-choice.
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We cannot get cute with this.
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Hodder's got credibility
with the right-to-lifers. I don't.
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He's the one that has to kill this.
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I wanna see him this afternoon,
right after the Maryland rally.
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- Get your bank of cameras ready.
- Well, excuse me.
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Joshua, I'm looking forward
to our next round of negotiations.
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Maybe this time you'll propose
hourly debates...
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...with breaks for IV nutrition
for the candidates.
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Your side's running
a vicious attack ad.
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It is not my side.
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- It is not my ad.
- Get that ad off the air...
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...renounce who put it there,
or the gloves are off.
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There are laws against coordination
with an indep...
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Call the RNC.
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I need copies of every negative Santos
spot they've been working on.
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C.J. Wanted you to have
this revised schedule.
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- You haven't heard back...?
- Your request to postpone the briefing?
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Unless you count,
"Don't ask if Will can postpone."
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- Doesn't count.
- Never heard back.
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- Good morning.
- Good morning.
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I'm Will Bailey,
assistant to the president...
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...and the new
director of communications.
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I'll be conducting the daily briefings
from now on...
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...and I have a statement to make
at this time.
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One week from today...
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...the president will launch a bold and
far-reaching New Markets initiative...
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...an interagency effort to bring jobs
and private investment...
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...to distressed urban communities.
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We're handing out a list
of initial agency efforts.
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Small-business loans, tax incentives...
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...Commerce's new
Adopt-an-Entrepreneur program.
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Which, of course,
we expect to be controversial.
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- I'll take your questions.
- Will! Will! Will!
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Did any of the White House
senior staff...
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...know that Toby Ziegler
was leaking security secrets?
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There's an ongoing investigation.
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I'll refer you
to the president's statement.
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- It doesn't speak to that.
- I'm not going to parse his statement.
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- We're not asking you to parse it.
- Good, since I'm not going to.
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Did any senior staff know Toby
was lying from that very podium?
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Toby Ziegler's been dismissed
by the president...
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...an indication of what
this White House thinks.
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I'm asking what
the White House knew.
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- Two weeks ago, Toby said...
- I refer you to Counsel.
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- Counsel isn't answering questions.
- I'll have to get into that.
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- Will!
- Yes?
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- They're crushing him like a grape.
- He's doing fine.
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So Santos pulls out of North Dakota
and West Virginia.
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That's great news
so soon after Labor Day.
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Yeah.
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Give us a chance at
that West Virginia second.
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That Santos crew doesn't know
a damn thing about party-building.
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- Mr. Chairman.
- Good to see you.
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Good to see you again.
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I don't like that abortion ad.
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I don't care how you deal with it.
Hold a press conference...
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...say they don't speak for the party...
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...but I want it dealt with now.
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- It's becoming a national story.
- No one showed me that ad.
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I wouldn't have run it.
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But you know what it would do
to walk away from it?
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An attack that, quite frankly, Arnie...
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...lots of folks think should be
in your stump speech.
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Santos and I are both pro-choice.
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I can't pretend there's some
huge difference between our positions.
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Santos thinks
my 14-year-old daughter...
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...needs my permission to get
an aspirin in school...
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...but not an abortion?
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The platform's pro-life.
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The people in this party
who do the phone-banking...
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...plant lawn signs, get half our guys
elected, they're pro-life too.
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Mr. Chairman, this is a rough negative ad
at a time when we don't need it.
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This committee knows nothing
from tactics.
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Maybe it's not tactics,
they mean what they say.
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We know how hard you're working
to keep social conservatives...
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...on the reservation.
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We were this close to a third-party
candidacy from the religious right.
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I'm concerned they stay home
on election day.
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This ad hurts me
as much as it hurts Santos.
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- Maybe more.
- Pro-lifers have their issues with you.
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But Santos is for unlimited abortion.
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If you don't denounce that ad,
I'm gonna have to do it myself.
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- Can I speak candidly?
- You've been sugarcoating it?
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Corporate conservatives love you.
Neo-cons and libertarians may love you.
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Bruno Gianelli Democrats
may love you too.
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Social conservatives don't.
You never speak about their issues.
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You send mixed signals
about judicial appointments.
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You are the first nominee in 20 years
to skip the Al Smith Dinner...
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...because God forbid you might
be near some religious voters.
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Well, I can't meet my responsibility
to this party without them.
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No candidate could hold
those groups together.
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If this were Europe, the Republican Party
would be three parties.
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They don't have to sleep together,
they just have to vote Republican.
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You realize how many states
my pro-choice position puts on the table?
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You realize how we can grow this party
if we're willing to reach out?
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I guess I'd like to see you
unite the party that we have now.
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I'm not denouncing that ad.
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I don't think you want to either, Arnie.
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Any comment on the independent ad
attacking Santos on choice?
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I oppose all 527 ads.
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- You think Vinick's behind this?
- I don't know. Could be.
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Found the interview
they used in the ad.
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It's from three years ago.
KPRC in Houston.
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So let's talk legislatively.
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Do I wanna limit access
to abortion? No.
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Because there are common-sense limits
under the law right now.
273
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Should we work together
to reduce the number of abortions?
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Absolutely. And that's where I think
we can find common ground.
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- They took it out of context.
- Yeah.
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So why is it on television?
It's fraud.
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Well, you do say pretty clearly
you're not for limiting access.
278
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We called the stations.
They're not gonna pull it.
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- They think it's a fair charge.
- I've got Leo.
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He's back at headquarters.
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- Leo?
- You already said it's a distortion.
282
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I worry about too tough a response.
283
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- It makes this a much larger story.
- Can 't get any larger.
284
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They're talking about it on CNN, Fox,
probably the Home Shopping Network.
285
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We are the pro-choice party,
there's no denying it.
286
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I'm not sure we don't stand up
and say:
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"Damn right, I'm pro-choice,
so is 60 percent of the country."
288
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I have to make it clear
I'm not for abortion without limits.
289
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What if we hit Vinick on
a different level? Taxes, cronyism.
290
00:15:31,607 --> 00:15:34,519
We haul out a list of special-interest
giveaways he's supported.
291
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Look, this is about something
more fundamental.
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Vinick's appeal is that
he's a different kind of Republican.
293
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- Moderate, reasonable, pro-choice.
- Congressman's right.
294
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This shows that his centrism's
a bad coat of paint.
295
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Guy has a long record
of pro-choice votes.
296
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Then why is his party platform
pro-life?
297
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He promised that he would appoint
pro-life judges.
298
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He's not too attached
to that voting record.
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Let this stand,
and we strip away what's different.
300
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Santos is a religious Catholic,
not another secular Democrat...
301
00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:02,921
...who can be portrayed as hostile
to heartland values.
302
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Leo?
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I worry about elevating this.
304
00:16:09,327 --> 00:16:12,205
But if the charge sticks,
it could kill us with values voters.
305
00:16:12,367 --> 00:16:15,404
And that puts Vinick's nine-point lead
in the bank.
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We hit him...
307
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...and we hit him hard.
308
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- We don't start with a negative ad.
- No.
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00:16:29,927 --> 00:16:33,124
We get one ready, but our first hit
on Vinick will be a media bonanza.
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- Why waste money on an ad?
- We use a spokesman for this.
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We don't elevate it
to Santos' or Leo's level.
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Clarify our guy's
not for abortion without limits.
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It's a sham. Anyone can see
from the full interview.
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And then, bam, we hit Vinick
with a political two-by-four.
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- You don't have to be happy.
- You don't have to be queasy.
316
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You don't know Santos.
This becomes full-out negative...
317
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- He's got a glass jaw?
- I think we lose the war.
318
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I think the other side is better at this
and they have more to work with.
319
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I did the Marienhoff Senate campaign.
320
00:17:00,607 --> 00:17:03,679
You know those charges, he had
dealings with Taiwanese businessmen?
321
00:17:03,847 --> 00:17:05,644
- He did.
- Those were the charges.
322
00:17:05,807 --> 00:17:08,321
Anyway, we ran against Barrett.
Clean as a bar of soap.
323
00:17:08,487 --> 00:17:10,603
We hit him first
with everything we could find.
324
00:17:10,767 --> 00:17:13,884
When he hit back, the voters thought
it was just an ugly campaign...
325
00:17:14,047 --> 00:17:16,720
...a pox on both our houses.
- You're proud of that?
326
00:17:16,887 --> 00:17:19,481
I'm proud that Marienhoff
defends Medicare in the Senate.
327
00:17:19,647 --> 00:17:22,161
I'm proud that he votes against
every reckless tax cut.
328
00:17:22,687 --> 00:17:25,201
We're the blue team,
and there's a real war going on.
329
00:17:25,407 --> 00:17:28,524
Josh, do you want the right wing
to get their judges?
330
00:17:30,887 --> 00:17:33,879
- No.
- Then stop being so queasy.
331
00:17:34,767 --> 00:17:38,123
We hit Vinick for hypocrisy,
for saying he's pro-choice...
332
00:17:38,287 --> 00:17:41,836
...and letting anti-choice ideologues
pick his judiciary and run lying ads.
333
00:17:42,047 --> 00:17:44,880
- I'll phone the language in.
- Don't use our regular spokesman.
334
00:17:45,047 --> 00:17:47,561
Find a woman. You know,
a 40-something soccer mom.
335
00:17:47,767 --> 00:17:51,476
- What about debate negotiations?
- I'm meeting with Bruno this afternoon.
336
00:17:51,647 --> 00:17:55,117
- We're still on makeup and deli trays.
- There's gonna be debates.
337
00:17:55,287 --> 00:17:58,085
Vinick doesn't want to incur
the wrath of The New York Times.
338
00:17:58,247 --> 00:17:59,680
We have to stop being so eager.
339
00:17:59,847 --> 00:18:02,600
We have to change our body language.
Let them chase us.
340
00:18:02,807 --> 00:18:06,243
I've had nine meetings with Bruno
on this. He knows how I think.
341
00:18:06,447 --> 00:18:08,438
He doesn't know me.
342
00:18:11,607 --> 00:18:14,724
"No" on banning partial-birth abortions.
Is that a vote you want...
343
00:18:14,887 --> 00:18:17,526
Have you seen this abortion ad?
It's all over cable news.
344
00:18:17,687 --> 00:18:19,917
They're predicting a negative ad blitz
by Friday.
345
00:18:20,087 --> 00:18:22,317
I'm amazed it took them this long
to get started.
346
00:18:22,487 --> 00:18:24,284
Someone gave the president
this adage:
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00:18:24,447 --> 00:18:27,564
"The best place to store surplus food
is in someone else's stomach."
348
00:18:27,727 --> 00:18:29,126
Use it in this briefing.
349
00:18:29,287 --> 00:18:32,484
We're announcing 50 employers have
joined the New Markets initiative.
350
00:18:32,647 --> 00:18:35,286
Which would you have
when you're hungry, rotten food or...?
351
00:18:35,447 --> 00:18:38,439
No, I get it. It's just, a second briefing?
You saw the wires.
352
00:18:38,607 --> 00:18:41,838
They counted the questions I was asked.
I didn't answer one of them.
353
00:18:42,007 --> 00:18:45,158
- You thought we'd get good coverage?
- Forty-seven, a career high.
354
00:18:45,327 --> 00:18:48,842
- Let them punch themselves out.
- You're talking to the punching bag.
355
00:18:49,007 --> 00:18:51,123
My job's to look like I'm not ignorant.
356
00:18:51,287 --> 00:18:53,357
Counsel won't even brief me
on Toby's firing.
357
00:18:53,527 --> 00:18:54,801
I asked them not to.
358
00:18:54,967 --> 00:18:56,719
Don't you want me
to have credibility?
359
00:18:56,887 --> 00:18:59,117
Your ignorance is your credibility.
360
00:18:59,287 --> 00:19:02,643
Your constituents aren't in that room,
they're in distressed urban areas.
361
00:19:02,807 --> 00:19:05,116
- You brief at 4.
- 0 for 47.
362
00:19:05,287 --> 00:19:08,040
I'm the Jamaican bobsledding team.
363
00:19:08,727 --> 00:19:10,240
"Securing America's future."
364
00:19:10,407 --> 00:19:13,205
"Securing," not "strengthening."
He's not a personal trainer.
365
00:19:13,367 --> 00:19:15,005
- Is that statement all set?
- All set.
366
00:19:15,167 --> 00:19:18,000
- Got a woman to read the thing?
- Right out of central casting.
367
00:19:18,207 --> 00:19:21,722
- No nose rings, brow piercings?
- Trust me, this gal's a cold glass of milk.
368
00:19:21,927 --> 00:19:24,361
She was working for
the Midwest coordinated campaign.
369
00:19:24,527 --> 00:19:27,121
- Lou asked for Vinick's Senate flip-flops.
- Yeah.
370
00:19:27,287 --> 00:19:30,006
- Are we about to run our very first...?
- They're starting.
371
00:19:30,327 --> 00:19:31,555
- Campaign in Washington...
372
00:19:31,727 --> 00:19:34,719
... for their response to the
independent ad attacking Matthew...
373
00:19:34,887 --> 00:19:37,117
Tell him no,
we're not doing the Al Smith Dinner.
374
00:19:37,287 --> 00:19:40,563
- Not in the middle of all this.
- Good afternoon.
375
00:19:40,727 --> 00:19:45,482
It is wrong and misleading
to imply through edited footage...
376
00:19:45,647 --> 00:19:47,717
... that Congressman Santos
is for abortion...
377
00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:50,321
- This is Otto.
- That's Donna.
378
00:19:50,487 --> 00:19:53,877
- Who?
- The dairy queen, Donna Moss.
379
00:19:54,047 --> 00:19:56,481
What happened to our
40-something soccer mom?
380
00:19:56,687 --> 00:20:00,043
Lou hired her last week to do
Midwest press. Looks too young, huh?
381
00:20:01,007 --> 00:20:04,238
The Women's Alliance for Choice called.
They want a meeting.
382
00:20:04,407 --> 00:20:07,205
We were talking about
an endorsement event. Have Leo do it.
383
00:20:07,367 --> 00:20:10,564
I don't want Santos meeting with them
till this abortion stuff cools.
384
00:20:10,727 --> 00:20:14,003
And the American people need to know,
which is the real Arnold Vinick?
385
00:20:14,927 --> 00:20:17,157
The one who supports
a woman 's right to choose...
386
00:20:17,367 --> 00:20:21,838
... and votes accordingly, or the one
whose party has a pro-life platform...
387
00:20:22,007 --> 00:20:25,204
- Yes, they're ready to go.
- She's hitting me from the left and right.
388
00:20:25,367 --> 00:20:27,517
We have to wait until we see
what Santos runs.
389
00:20:27,687 --> 00:20:31,236
Telling the right I'm pro-abortion,
the left I'm a captive of religious nuts.
390
00:20:31,407 --> 00:20:35,366
The RNC upped their ad buy another
750 points. Every battleground market.
391
00:20:35,527 --> 00:20:38,166
And since I don't have a uterus
like Tippi Hedren here...
392
00:20:38,327 --> 00:20:40,079
...I'm not qualified to talk about it.
393
00:20:40,247 --> 00:20:43,478
All the networks are running pieces
on the Santos abortion ad tonight.
394
00:20:43,647 --> 00:20:46,002
I'm gonna go out there
and call it trash and a lie.
395
00:20:46,167 --> 00:20:48,965
I don't like it either,
but Hodder's not wrong.
396
00:20:49,127 --> 00:20:50,845
Nothing in that ad's inaccurate.
397
00:20:51,007 --> 00:20:52,838
Santos couldn't have
written a better ad.
398
00:20:53,007 --> 00:20:54,918
They're whacking me
for playing both sides.
399
00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:59,558
That 527's raised a quarter of a million
off last night's airings alone.
400
00:20:59,727 --> 00:21:01,922
After tonight, it's gonna be
20 times that much.
401
00:21:02,087 --> 00:21:04,555
This is energizing the very people...
402
00:21:04,727 --> 00:21:07,844
...we were afraid
were gonna stay home in November.
403
00:21:08,927 --> 00:21:11,202
- You think I should stand by it.
- No.
404
00:21:11,367 --> 00:21:13,164
You should scrub your Michigan swing...
405
00:21:13,327 --> 00:21:17,161
...go to the Al Smith Dinner, talk about
your opposition to partial-birth abortion.
406
00:21:17,327 --> 00:21:21,445
And the minute that Santos runs his first
negative ad, we run a hundred of ours.
407
00:21:21,647 --> 00:21:23,877
Years I've been looking forward
to this campaign.
408
00:21:24,047 --> 00:21:26,197
I never imagined
it would look like this.
409
00:21:26,367 --> 00:21:28,085
It'll look better after you win.
410
00:21:41,047 --> 00:21:42,844
- Mr. Bailey.
- Will!
411
00:21:45,127 --> 00:21:48,483
Good afternoon. We're handing out lists
of private-sector commitments...
412
00:21:48,647 --> 00:21:50,763
...to the president's
New Markets initiative.
413
00:21:50,927 --> 00:21:53,316
It shows the business community
is deeply engaged...
414
00:21:53,487 --> 00:21:56,001
...in job creation
for poor communities.
415
00:21:56,567 --> 00:22:01,118
As the Eskimos said, if you store
your food in somebody else's stomach...
416
00:22:02,567 --> 00:22:06,321
...well, then you'd better hope
it doesn't need refrigeration.
417
00:22:06,487 --> 00:22:08,637
- Will!
- Yes?
418
00:22:08,807 --> 00:22:11,605
Has the president been asked to testify
in the investigation?
419
00:22:11,767 --> 00:22:13,041
That's a matter for Counsel.
420
00:22:13,207 --> 00:22:16,643
- Will he assert privilege?
- I'll refer you to this morning's briefing.
421
00:22:16,807 --> 00:22:18,559
You said you'd get back to us
on that.
422
00:22:18,727 --> 00:22:21,321
See, now you're cheating.
You didn't need to be referred.
423
00:22:21,487 --> 00:22:25,321
Does the president consider Mr. Babish's
conversations with Mr. Ziegler privileged?
424
00:22:25,487 --> 00:22:28,285
- I'm not getting into that.
- Isn't Mr. Babish also a witness?
425
00:22:28,447 --> 00:22:31,166
- Have to check with him.
- You've been in this job four days.
426
00:22:31,327 --> 00:22:34,364
When are you gonna sit down
with Counsel and get us some answers?
427
00:22:38,527 --> 00:22:40,119
I'm not.
428
00:22:41,927 --> 00:22:43,201
Mr. Bailey, right here.
429
00:22:43,647 --> 00:22:45,603
- Will, right here.
- I'll take one from you.
430
00:22:45,807 --> 00:22:48,879
The attack ad, funded by a group
of Vinick and RNC donors...
431
00:22:49,047 --> 00:22:52,278
... has sparked what many believe
was inevitable this presidential year:
432
00:22:52,447 --> 00:22:53,880
A volley of negative charges...
433
00:22:54,047 --> 00:22:57,562
... with independent Democratic groups
already saying they'll respond in kind.
434
00:22:58,447 --> 00:23:02,884
Taking a look at your money, the dollar
fell against the euro this week...
435
00:23:03,807 --> 00:23:06,844
- Who are you?
- Louise Thornton. Josh couldn't make it.
436
00:23:07,007 --> 00:23:10,966
- Stuck in Michigan?
- Santos benched him, sent me.
437
00:23:12,607 --> 00:23:15,041
We have magazines outside
if you get bored with those.
438
00:23:15,207 --> 00:23:16,720
Any good ones?
439
00:23:16,887 --> 00:23:20,277
Are we going to, how shall I say...
440
00:23:20,447 --> 00:23:22,119
...negotiate?
441
00:23:24,327 --> 00:23:26,238
No.
442
00:23:27,367 --> 00:23:30,200
This may look like
your dentist's waiting room.
443
00:23:30,367 --> 00:23:32,756
It's a negotiating session
for presidential debates.
444
00:23:32,927 --> 00:23:34,679
You want as few debates as possible...
445
00:23:34,847 --> 00:23:38,476
...but don't wanna tick off the debate
commission or the opinion elites, right?
446
00:23:38,647 --> 00:23:42,765
And I think Vinick could kick Santos'
abortion-loving ass all over the stage.
447
00:23:42,927 --> 00:23:44,280
Game over. Check, please.
448
00:23:45,367 --> 00:23:48,200
- And?
- And I'm your best buddy on this.
449
00:23:48,367 --> 00:23:50,198
No debates. You can blame me.
450
00:23:50,527 --> 00:23:52,358
Like a magazine?
A half-hour of this...
451
00:23:52,527 --> 00:23:54,961
...and I can tell the congressman
it didn't work out.
452
00:24:00,847 --> 00:24:03,645
You understand why I'm taking
this meeting instead of Santos.
453
00:24:03,807 --> 00:24:06,241
He can't be seen
with the Women's Alliance for Choice.
454
00:24:06,407 --> 00:24:10,286
- Not while he's trying to limit abortion.
- He's not trying to limit abortion.
455
00:24:10,447 --> 00:24:13,245
- Not what his spokeswoman said.
- It's rhetorical positioning.
456
00:24:13,407 --> 00:24:14,726
President Bartlet did it too.
457
00:24:14,887 --> 00:24:18,323
President Bartlet never ran against
a pro-choice Republican.
458
00:24:18,487 --> 00:24:21,479
- We haven't endorsed a candidate yet.
- I know.
459
00:24:22,287 --> 00:24:24,039
We have to push that back a bit.
460
00:24:24,207 --> 00:24:26,926
See, we need moderate votes
to chip into Vinick's lead.
461
00:24:27,087 --> 00:24:29,681
We don't wanna make Santos
the baby-killing candidate.
462
00:24:29,847 --> 00:24:32,805
- Excuse my expression...
- We're thinking of endorsing Vinick.
463
00:24:36,087 --> 00:24:37,679
Becca...
464
00:24:37,967 --> 00:24:40,640
...you're not talking to some
punk congressional staffer.
465
00:24:40,807 --> 00:24:42,684
He's pro-choice
and probably gonna win.
466
00:24:42,847 --> 00:24:46,157
- You can't honestly believe...
- How you gonna close a nine-point gap?
467
00:24:46,327 --> 00:24:48,045
You'll be lucky
if you get one debate.
468
00:24:48,207 --> 00:24:51,324
The way Santos has been begging,
Vinick's expectations are so low...
469
00:24:51,487 --> 00:24:53,876
...he'll just have to avoid
tripping over the podium.
470
00:24:54,047 --> 00:24:56,197
- We're the pro-choice party.
- Don't sound like it.
471
00:24:56,367 --> 00:25:01,316
Vinick won't criticize his party on this.
Partial-birth, parental notification.
472
00:25:01,567 --> 00:25:03,319
He's bowing to the far-right fringes.
473
00:25:03,487 --> 00:25:06,638
But if he wins, they really will be
the fringes, won't they?
474
00:25:06,807 --> 00:25:09,002
Then both parties
will be where the country is:
475
00:25:09,167 --> 00:25:11,681
Pro-choice, down the line.
476
00:25:11,847 --> 00:25:14,441
If you help a Republican
get elected, you'll destroy...
477
00:25:14,607 --> 00:25:16,199
Think how many more Republicans...
478
00:25:16,367 --> 00:25:19,564
...would have the courage to stand up
for a woman's right to choose.
479
00:25:27,327 --> 00:25:30,478
Thank you. Virginia's steel sector
is a model for the country.
480
00:25:30,647 --> 00:25:32,080
You should be proud. Thank you.
481
00:25:34,487 --> 00:25:36,955
The debate negotiations
seem to be off.
482
00:25:37,127 --> 00:25:39,402
- "Seem to be"?
- The Santos campaign blew them up.
483
00:25:39,567 --> 00:25:41,159
- It's a ploy.
- Better be.
484
00:25:41,327 --> 00:25:44,125
They need debates 10 times
more than us. We can wait it out.
485
00:25:44,287 --> 00:25:46,596
- That's the bad news.
- Let's have the good news.
486
00:25:46,767 --> 00:25:49,565
The Women's Alliance for Choice
wants an endorsement meeting.
487
00:25:49,727 --> 00:25:50,796
You're kidding.
488
00:25:50,967 --> 00:25:53,435
The heart of the Democratic base
wants to support you.
489
00:25:53,607 --> 00:25:57,885
Santos would be doomed. We'd win
53 states, couple of desert islands.
490
00:25:58,047 --> 00:26:00,925
- How do we know this isn't a setup?
- We meet them and find out.
491
00:26:01,087 --> 00:26:02,520
I don't know.
492
00:26:02,687 --> 00:26:05,679
You know, if a pro-choice group
gets within 53 feet of me...
493
00:26:05,847 --> 00:26:07,599
...the Republican Party
would go crazy.
494
00:26:07,767 --> 00:26:10,725
You're a pro-choice candidate.
They're the pro-choice lobby.
495
00:26:10,887 --> 00:26:14,675
- This isn't a typical election.
- How can they endorse a Republican...
496
00:26:14,847 --> 00:26:18,476
...who's against partial-birth abortion,
who's for parental notification?
497
00:26:18,647 --> 00:26:20,319
This could be Santos screwing me.
498
00:26:20,487 --> 00:26:23,320
I know these people.
I can keep this meeting quiet.
499
00:26:23,487 --> 00:26:26,240
- No.
- The RNC has five negative ads ready...
500
00:26:26,407 --> 00:26:28,682
...that would blow Santos
out of the water.
501
00:26:28,847 --> 00:26:31,520
But it's gonna harden
his support on the left.
502
00:26:31,687 --> 00:26:34,155
It's gonna make us
more dependent on the right.
503
00:26:34,647 --> 00:26:39,482
Yeah, we still win, but we win dirty.
Wouldn't you rather outflank him?
504
00:26:39,647 --> 00:26:41,126
If this becomes a press story...
505
00:26:41,287 --> 00:26:44,677
...that I'm courting not just the center
but the organized left...
506
00:26:44,847 --> 00:26:47,361
...I'd be kissing off
a quarter of the Republican base.
507
00:26:47,527 --> 00:26:50,166
I can't win without my own party.
508
00:26:52,407 --> 00:26:55,683
We're going to New York tomorrow.
I'm speaking at the Al Smith Dinner.
509
00:26:55,887 --> 00:26:58,879
Tell Sheila I need speech language
on partial-birth abortion.
510
00:26:59,047 --> 00:27:00,719
Something that'll mollify the right.
511
00:27:01,767 --> 00:27:04,440
Arnold Vinick promises he'll cut taxes.
512
00:27:04,607 --> 00:27:08,725
Then why do economists say that would
break his pledge to balance the budget?
513
00:27:08,887 --> 00:27:12,004
He says he's pro-choice.
Then why do news reports say...
514
00:27:12,167 --> 00:27:14,886
... he told the far right
he'd pick anti-choice judges?
515
00:27:15,047 --> 00:27:20,167
Arnold Vinick. If he's on both sides,
how can he be on your side?
516
00:27:20,447 --> 00:27:21,926
Hey.
517
00:27:23,007 --> 00:27:24,201
You hired Donna Moss?
518
00:27:24,367 --> 00:27:27,439
No, I picked her off the street
and put her on national television.
519
00:27:27,607 --> 00:27:30,201
She was the absolute wrong person
for that hit on Vinick.
520
00:27:30,367 --> 00:27:33,962
- Didn't we say 40-something with kids?
- We said a woman, and she was great.
521
00:27:34,127 --> 00:27:35,879
She worked for Russell in the primary.
522
00:27:36,047 --> 00:27:38,038
So did half the available
Democratic talent.
523
00:27:38,207 --> 00:27:39,799
She worked for me before that.
524
00:27:39,967 --> 00:27:42,845
That is a strike against her.
I can see why you're concerned.
525
00:27:43,007 --> 00:27:45,475
- The debate negotiations are off.
- They're off?
526
00:27:45,647 --> 00:27:48,002
We walked away. I gave it
to the Times and Journal.
527
00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:50,681
Hope this works.
Vinick can live without debates.
528
00:27:50,847 --> 00:27:53,725
- We don't get them, we're toast.
- This is exactly what we need.
529
00:27:53,887 --> 00:27:55,445
Proof we're willing to walk away.
530
00:27:55,607 --> 00:27:57,962
If we're lucky, the Times
will call us a roadblock.
531
00:27:58,127 --> 00:28:01,437
Donna Moss gave dozens of bad quotes
about Santos in the primary.
532
00:28:01,607 --> 00:28:03,996
You may run communications,
but I'm campaign manager.
533
00:28:04,167 --> 00:28:06,635
I sign off on any new spokesperson.
534
00:28:07,807 --> 00:28:11,322
The Women's Alliance For Choice
is thinking of endorsing Vinick.
535
00:28:12,887 --> 00:28:15,003
- Okay, very bad news.
- Oh, yeah.
536
00:28:15,167 --> 00:28:17,283
- Is it public?
- Not yet.
537
00:28:17,967 --> 00:28:19,605
Maybe it hurts Vinick
with the right.
538
00:28:19,767 --> 00:28:22,156
Great. Vinick loses the right,
keeps middle and left.
539
00:28:22,327 --> 00:28:24,204
The only way for us to get votes...
540
00:28:24,367 --> 00:28:27,359
...is plastering the Ten Commandments
all over our campaign bus.
541
00:28:27,527 --> 00:28:30,564
One-point-five million
for naturally chilled water transportation?
542
00:28:30,727 --> 00:28:32,877
What's next, an earmark
for stuffed olives?
543
00:28:33,047 --> 00:28:35,766
- Back into the breach.
- Down the hall, left at The Crucible.
544
00:28:35,927 --> 00:28:37,997
- Wanna offer any tips?
- Follow your instincts.
545
00:28:38,167 --> 00:28:40,761
My instincts say to curl up in a ball
in my office.
546
00:28:40,927 --> 00:28:44,078
- Then follow your job description.
- Down the hall, left at the...
547
00:28:44,247 --> 00:28:47,683
- So I tell Legislative Affairs...?
- The president's not signing the bill.
548
00:28:47,847 --> 00:28:50,156
Not when it looks like happy hour
at the Algonquin.
549
00:28:50,327 --> 00:28:52,238
Get some of these earmarks out of it.
550
00:28:52,407 --> 00:28:56,844
I am pleased to announce that as part
of our upcoming New Markets tour...
551
00:28:57,007 --> 00:29:00,477
...President Bartlet will visit
the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation...
552
00:29:00,647 --> 00:29:03,719
...home of the Oglala Sioux Nation,
to talk about the importance...
553
00:29:03,887 --> 00:29:06,720
...of investing
in Native American communities.
554
00:29:07,487 --> 00:29:09,478
I'll dodge your questions now.
555
00:29:13,967 --> 00:29:17,323
When was the last time a sitting
president visited an Indian reservation?
556
00:29:20,647 --> 00:29:24,481
That would be
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1936.
557
00:29:25,127 --> 00:29:26,355
Next question.
558
00:29:28,607 --> 00:29:29,926
Did you talk to Joey Lucas?
559
00:29:30,087 --> 00:29:33,477
She's got a version of our spot without
the monster-chiller theater music.
560
00:29:33,647 --> 00:29:34,966
Yeah, come with me.
561
00:29:35,127 --> 00:29:37,800
- Where are we going?
- The bedroom off the staff room.
562
00:29:37,967 --> 00:29:42,040
I don't wanna seem ungracious,
we've all been under a lot of pressure.
563
00:29:42,207 --> 00:29:43,686
It's just that...
564
00:29:45,007 --> 00:29:46,360
- Hi.
- Hi.
565
00:29:46,527 --> 00:29:48,882
I don't know what the problem is,
but she's great on TV.
566
00:29:49,047 --> 00:29:51,277
I don't care who she worked
for in the primaries.
567
00:29:51,447 --> 00:29:55,076
Right now, it's all hands on deck,
so work it out.
568
00:29:59,207 --> 00:30:01,163
What on-the-record experience
do you have?
569
00:30:01,327 --> 00:30:03,124
- A job interview?
- I'm campaign manager.
570
00:30:03,287 --> 00:30:05,596
I hire staff, it involves an interview.
Experience?
571
00:30:05,767 --> 00:30:09,601
Six hours ago, televised press
conference, Santos-McGarry campaign.
572
00:30:09,767 --> 00:30:12,361
- References?
- Josh Lyman, campaign manager.
573
00:30:12,527 --> 00:30:15,883
- Try the main switchboard.
- He'd tell you campaigns demand loyalty.
574
00:30:16,047 --> 00:30:18,845
- You don't work for the other guy.
- The party's front-runner.
575
00:30:19,007 --> 00:30:22,443
You knew I wasn't supporting him.
Me, your mentor in professional politics.
576
00:30:22,607 --> 00:30:24,723
The guy who kept me
in grunt-level servitude...
577
00:30:24,887 --> 00:30:26,798
...because I knew
he liked burgers burned.
578
00:30:26,967 --> 00:30:29,003
- I gave you a career.
- As a short-order cook.
579
00:30:29,167 --> 00:30:32,079
- I'm still waiting for the spatula...
- Hope you're getting along.
580
00:30:32,247 --> 00:30:34,715
It just broke. Women's Alliance
wants to meet Vinick.
581
00:30:34,887 --> 00:30:37,447
I need you to spin it.
Bad for him, fine for us.
582
00:30:37,607 --> 00:30:41,122
- How's that even possible?
- Bad for us, worse for him, whatever.
583
00:30:41,287 --> 00:30:43,005
How's the congressman?
584
00:30:43,167 --> 00:30:44,998
- He's been better.
- The Women's Alliance?
585
00:30:45,167 --> 00:30:47,397
And two more things.
Vinick changed his schedule.
586
00:30:47,567 --> 00:30:49,285
He's speaking at the Al Smith Dinner.
587
00:30:49,447 --> 00:30:52,166
We've got 50 reporters
wondering if we're doing the same.
588
00:30:52,327 --> 00:30:54,522
Why the hell would Vinick
do the Smith Dinner?
589
00:30:54,687 --> 00:30:57,918
Because an in-your-face pro-choice
speech could seal the endorsement.
590
00:30:58,087 --> 00:30:59,361
What was the second thing?
591
00:30:59,527 --> 00:31:02,041
The bishop from Camden, New Jersey,
issued a statement.
592
00:31:02,207 --> 00:31:05,040
If Santos comes to Mass in Camden,
he'll deny him Communion.
593
00:31:05,207 --> 00:31:09,803
His views on abortion have
placed him in a state of grave sin.
594
00:31:09,967 --> 00:31:11,559
How's that play with values voters?
595
00:31:16,887 --> 00:31:18,286
Don't be spooked by the Times.
596
00:31:19,607 --> 00:31:21,757
Staff was right to blow up
the negotiations.
597
00:31:21,927 --> 00:31:23,565
A bad editorial never killed anyone.
598
00:31:23,727 --> 00:31:26,685
Not that I won't hear about it
at this DCCC dinner.
599
00:31:26,847 --> 00:31:28,565
You heard about
the diocese of Camden?
600
00:31:28,727 --> 00:31:30,240
You don't go to Mass in Camden.
601
00:31:30,407 --> 00:31:33,365
Lou and Joey are almost done
with our first negative ad.
602
00:31:33,527 --> 00:31:35,757
I know you wanted
a more substantive campaign.
603
00:31:35,927 --> 00:31:38,157
- That's not what bothers me about it.
- What then?
604
00:31:38,327 --> 00:31:40,124
Negative ads work.
605
00:31:40,287 --> 00:31:43,279
The more we run them, the more
people believe the worst about us.
606
00:31:43,447 --> 00:31:45,403
So we pummel each other to the ground.
607
00:31:45,567 --> 00:31:47,523
Whoever crawls across
the finish line wins.
608
00:31:47,687 --> 00:31:48,676
Yeah.
609
00:31:48,847 --> 00:31:51,202
How do I get back
the Women's Alliance?
610
00:31:51,367 --> 00:31:53,403
Come to New York tomorrow
and meet with them.
611
00:31:53,567 --> 00:31:56,286
Tell them you're taking the stage
at the Al Smith Dinner...
612
00:31:56,447 --> 00:31:58,358
...and defending a woman's
right to choose.
613
00:31:58,527 --> 00:32:00,722
And be ready for me to be
the only guy clapping.
614
00:32:00,887 --> 00:32:02,639
So I'm the
abortion-without-limits guy?
615
00:32:02,807 --> 00:32:06,243
We're the pro-choice party. You gotta
dance with the one who brung you.
616
00:32:18,247 --> 00:32:19,839
Vinick just landed in New York too.
617
00:32:20,007 --> 00:32:22,362
No intelligence on what he's saying
at the dinner.
618
00:32:22,527 --> 00:32:24,438
What hit did we take
in last night's poll?
619
00:32:24,607 --> 00:32:27,167
Four points on "shares values."
Vinick took a bigger hit.
620
00:32:27,327 --> 00:32:29,636
Fifty-nine percent think
he should denounce the ad.
621
00:32:29,807 --> 00:32:31,877
Swing voters
think he's a typical Republican.
622
00:32:32,047 --> 00:32:34,607
They won't when he's endorsed
by a pro-choice group.
623
00:32:34,767 --> 00:32:36,997
We need a way to spin it
if they endorse Vinick.
624
00:32:37,167 --> 00:32:40,637
- It would be a political earthquake.
- From a group that's on our side.
625
00:32:40,807 --> 00:32:43,480
They're not on our side.
They're on their own side.
626
00:32:43,647 --> 00:32:45,922
They're an interest group
jockeying for influence.
627
00:32:46,087 --> 00:32:49,477
Think their supporters vote Republican
no matter what the leadership says?
628
00:32:49,647 --> 00:32:53,322
Poll that. I bet 85 percent of them are
dyed-in-the-sackcloth Santos supporters.
629
00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:56,918
Phone Joey with that
for tomorrow's poll.
630
00:32:57,087 --> 00:32:58,759
I'm on it.
631
00:33:07,487 --> 00:33:09,637
Talk to Treasury
about that debt-relief report.
632
00:33:09,807 --> 00:33:11,877
The president's interested
in an event on it.
633
00:33:12,047 --> 00:33:13,719
- Sure.
- He thinks agency response...
634
00:33:13,887 --> 00:33:17,721
...to New Markets has been thin. You
should crack a few subcabinet heads.
635
00:33:21,847 --> 00:33:23,678
- Did you see today's briefing?
- Yeah.
636
00:33:23,847 --> 00:33:25,758
We need a better answer
on the energy bill.
637
00:33:25,927 --> 00:33:28,805
- DOE's been dickering around.
- Right.
638
00:33:37,327 --> 00:33:39,079
Set up a call with McGinn at Treasury.
639
00:33:39,247 --> 00:33:42,045
And I need a fresh list
of those agency commitments.
640
00:33:53,407 --> 00:33:54,886
Will Bailey.
641
00:33:55,567 --> 00:33:58,001
Segal, the pressure's all mine.
642
00:33:58,287 --> 00:33:59,959
On the record? I'd say...
643
00:34:00,127 --> 00:34:02,846
...it's something either administration
would have to love.
644
00:34:03,007 --> 00:34:06,079
It's pro-business. It's anti-poverty.
645
00:34:06,927 --> 00:34:10,203
Investigation's ongoing.
I really can't comment.
646
00:34:14,767 --> 00:34:18,237
Segal? Nope, keep talking.
I'm not going anywhere.
647
00:34:21,007 --> 00:34:22,042
That ad's pretty tough.
648
00:34:22,207 --> 00:34:24,357
We can't afford
to take our foot off the gas.
649
00:34:24,527 --> 00:34:25,516
Vinick will hit back.
650
00:34:25,687 --> 00:34:27,962
- He's probably already bought airtime.
- He has.
651
00:34:28,127 --> 00:34:31,324
We can do the meeting with the
Women's Alliance for Choice in hold.
652
00:34:31,487 --> 00:34:33,637
You don't have to be on-stage
for half an hour.
653
00:34:33,807 --> 00:34:35,798
We'll talk about
our ad buy after dinner.
654
00:34:35,967 --> 00:34:37,958
We'll see you in there, congressman.
655
00:34:38,687 --> 00:34:42,157
I hope you're gonna give a tough speech
on partial-birth abortion tonight.
656
00:34:42,327 --> 00:34:43,840
These folks need to hear it.
657
00:34:44,007 --> 00:34:48,046
This story about the Women's Alliance
wanting to endorse you, it's a disaster.
658
00:34:48,207 --> 00:34:51,836
Because I'd get more votes
for a position I happen to hold?
659
00:34:52,847 --> 00:34:55,680
You can't let
this Communion thing bother you.
660
00:34:55,847 --> 00:34:57,280
Most Catholics are pro-choice.
661
00:34:57,447 --> 00:34:59,358
How do bishops expect
politicians to do...
662
00:34:59,527 --> 00:35:01,836
...what they can't even do
in their own church?
663
00:35:03,447 --> 00:35:05,642
The Bible's silent on the issue.
664
00:35:05,807 --> 00:35:09,356
Not one word that says
it's the destruction of a human life.
665
00:35:09,527 --> 00:35:11,085
It is.
666
00:35:11,647 --> 00:35:13,444
You're pro-life?
667
00:35:13,607 --> 00:35:15,962
I believe life begins at conception.
668
00:35:19,487 --> 00:35:21,557
Well, ain't that a kick in the pulpit.
669
00:35:21,727 --> 00:35:25,845
- Politics is about practicality.
- Not if you think abortion is murder.
670
00:35:26,007 --> 00:35:29,556
Whether you do or not, Roe v. Wade
has been law of the land for decades.
671
00:35:29,727 --> 00:35:31,843
Most of the country's
not ready to change that.
672
00:35:32,007 --> 00:35:35,158
- Neither am I.
- Well, that's not the party's position.
673
00:35:36,047 --> 00:35:38,436
I joined this party
because liberals were the ones...
674
00:35:38,607 --> 00:35:40,598
...who wanted something
from the government.
675
00:35:40,767 --> 00:35:43,156
We just wanted government
to leave us alone.
676
00:35:43,327 --> 00:35:46,524
Especially when there's
no consensus otherwise.
677
00:35:46,687 --> 00:35:49,997
I'm trying to lead the majority
who agrees on that.
678
00:35:50,167 --> 00:35:55,480
Not the minority who wants to enact
their version of Leviticus into law.
679
00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:59,477
We're a big tent, Arnie.
Room enough for all.
680
00:35:59,927 --> 00:36:01,804
You're gonna denounce
that ad tonight.
681
00:36:01,967 --> 00:36:05,403
I'm not responsible for making you
more palatable with the abortion lobby.
682
00:36:05,567 --> 00:36:09,526
Denounce that ad,
or I'll do it in my speech...
683
00:36:09,687 --> 00:36:14,044
...in front of two dozen bishops
and a tent full of Catholic charities.
684
00:36:17,607 --> 00:36:22,635
Leo tells me you might defend the right
to choose tonight. Proudly, aggressively.
685
00:36:22,807 --> 00:36:26,083
- This would be a gutsy place to do it.
- We're the pro-choice ticket.
686
00:36:26,247 --> 00:36:28,238
I still believe
that the Women's Alliance...
687
00:36:28,407 --> 00:36:30,477
...needs to encourage
pro-choice Republicans.
688
00:36:30,647 --> 00:36:32,399
The Democratic Party
needs to, as well.
689
00:36:32,567 --> 00:36:36,242
We need to make clear that we're not
hostile to people who are anti-abortion.
690
00:36:36,407 --> 00:36:38,762
"Pro-choice" means anyone
can do what they want.
691
00:36:38,927 --> 00:36:41,839
Yeah, but it shouldn't mean
we're proud of whatever they choose.
692
00:36:42,487 --> 00:36:46,480
Maybe this chest-beating is the reason
the right can get away with that ad.
693
00:36:46,927 --> 00:36:49,885
The reason why a leader of my church
can exile me...
694
00:36:50,047 --> 00:36:52,686
...for not trying to impose my religion
on the country.
695
00:36:52,847 --> 00:36:56,442
And we're surprised people out there
think we're for unlimited abortion?
696
00:36:56,607 --> 00:37:00,316
That there are voters who are pro-choice
that think that we're too extreme?
697
00:37:00,487 --> 00:37:03,763
Political posturing aside,
precisely what limits are you for?
698
00:37:03,927 --> 00:37:06,122
You support abortion
to choose a baby's sex?
699
00:37:06,287 --> 00:37:07,959
- Of course not.
- After an IQ test?
700
00:37:08,127 --> 00:37:10,482
- No.
- You support limits on abortion yourself.
701
00:37:11,207 --> 00:37:13,198
Isn't it all a matter
of degrees after that?
702
00:37:13,407 --> 00:37:14,999
Who are you, who are any of us...
703
00:37:15,167 --> 00:37:18,239
...to say where someone
should draw the line for themselves?
704
00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:21,039
What are you saying tonight?
705
00:37:21,207 --> 00:37:24,597
That abortion's a tragedy.
That it should be legal. It should be safe.
706
00:37:24,767 --> 00:37:27,327
It should be a whole lot rarer
than it is now.
707
00:37:28,927 --> 00:37:30,963
You have a problem with that...
708
00:37:31,607 --> 00:37:33,882
...you can endorse whoever you want.
709
00:37:59,647 --> 00:38:01,717
Ask him if he can hold off
until the morning.
710
00:38:01,887 --> 00:38:04,321
We're on our way into the banquet
right now.
711
00:38:08,727 --> 00:38:12,163
- I thank our very special dais guests...
- I'll grab you after the intro.
712
00:38:12,327 --> 00:38:15,956
...at this evening's annual Alfred
E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner.
713
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:19,085
I'm delighted to introduce
the Honorable Leo McGarry...
714
00:38:19,247 --> 00:38:21,044
...and the Honorable Ray Sullivan.
715
00:38:21,207 --> 00:38:23,118
Two highly distinguished
public servants...
716
00:38:23,287 --> 00:38:25,642
...whose extraordinary vision
and leadership...
717
00:38:25,807 --> 00:38:27,843
...will guide this country
for years to come.
718
00:38:28,007 --> 00:38:31,682
Gentlemen, thank you
for joining us here this evening.
719
00:38:37,247 --> 00:38:39,886
We're pleased to be joined on the dais
by the governor...
720
00:38:40,247 --> 00:38:42,158
Next time you decide to smear me...
721
00:38:42,327 --> 00:38:44,557
...maybe you'll have the guts
to do it yourself.
722
00:38:45,167 --> 00:38:47,362
I had nothing to do with that ad.
723
00:38:47,567 --> 00:38:50,639
You blew up the debates. It's clear
what kind of campaign you want.
724
00:38:50,807 --> 00:38:53,685
Oh, I forgot how eager
you were for debates.
725
00:38:56,407 --> 00:39:00,400
And next time you send
left-wing lobbyists to my office...
726
00:39:00,567 --> 00:39:02,398
...don't forget the gift card.
727
00:39:02,567 --> 00:39:05,127
You want an ugly campaign,
you're gonna get one.
728
00:39:05,287 --> 00:39:09,246
- I didn't start this.
- No, your hatchet men did it for you.
729
00:39:09,407 --> 00:39:14,242
I do thank you. Thank you
for being here each and every year.
730
00:39:18,167 --> 00:39:21,159
You're hitting me on partial-birth tonight,
aren't you?
731
00:39:22,767 --> 00:39:25,839
Our next guest has served
with enormous distinction as a senator...
732
00:39:26,007 --> 00:39:29,158
...from the golden state of California.
- Here we are.
733
00:39:29,807 --> 00:39:33,482
Presidential campaign,
grand national debate...
734
00:39:34,127 --> 00:39:37,915
...pounding each other on one
of the few things we basically agree on.
735
00:39:38,087 --> 00:39:39,520
The final guest this evening...
736
00:39:39,687 --> 00:39:42,918
...the congressman
from the 18th district of Texas.
737
00:39:43,807 --> 00:39:46,116
Well, then let's negotiate now.
738
00:39:48,127 --> 00:39:51,085
- Excuse me?
- No backroom tactics.
739
00:39:51,367 --> 00:39:54,962
- You and me, a real debate.
- Oh, please.
740
00:39:55,127 --> 00:39:56,924
A real debate. Really.
741
00:39:57,087 --> 00:39:59,760
We pride ourselves on making this
a nonpartisan event.
742
00:39:59,927 --> 00:40:01,997
And nonpolitical either.
743
00:40:02,927 --> 00:40:04,883
No negative ads.
744
00:40:05,927 --> 00:40:07,724
No attacks in our speeches out there.
745
00:40:07,887 --> 00:40:10,720
If we can have a real debate
on the issues...
746
00:40:10,887 --> 00:40:12,286
...just you and me.
747
00:40:17,367 --> 00:40:20,325
They are both remarkable servants
to this country.
748
00:40:20,487 --> 00:40:22,637
Both men of character
and distinction...
749
00:40:22,807 --> 00:40:24,604
How's Sunday night?
750
00:40:25,927 --> 00:40:29,476
What a joy that both of them
were able to take time...
751
00:40:29,647 --> 00:40:32,684
...from their busy campaign schedules
to appear at this year's...
752
00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:35,919
- Hell of a way to end your campaign.
- Oh, I'm just getting started.
753
00:40:44,647 --> 00:40:47,844
We're delighted to welcome
to the Al Smith Dinner...
754
00:40:48,007 --> 00:40:49,998
...Senator Arnold Vinick of California...
755
00:40:50,167 --> 00:40:52,397
...and Congressman Matthew Santos
of Texas.
756
00:41:30,007 --> 00:41:31,998
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