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This series is based on Kate del Castillo's account
of events related to her meeting with Sean Penn and "El Chapo" Guzm�n.
The opinions expressed are those of the commentators featured.
I want it to be clear that the content of this interview...
is exclusively for Miss Kate del Castillo
and Mr. Sean Penn.
It was...
very intense.
I thought, "What have I got here? What I'm holding in my hands is priceless."
Because no one had ever seen Joaqu�n Guzm�n Loera
speaking straight into the camera,
and, for the first time, admitting that he was a drug dealer.
The day I no longer exist,
drug trafficking will not decrease in any way.
That's false.
I think El Chapo wants to tell his story because we only know one side of him.
Just imagine all those years of hiding and living in the mountains...
Of course he wanted to get his fifteen minutes of fame.
I think El Chapo Guzm�n's biggest mistake was recording that video
and staying in touch after sharing his table with them.
In Latin America, if you study the history of great bandits,
great independence leaders and great guerrilla soldiers,
how does the State manage to capture them?
It always comes down to vanity.
I started crying, my heart started beating really fast, I started sweating...
I mean, what do I do with all this information?
It was something that no one else had.
The responsibility I had was indescribable.
And now that you are free, how do you feel?
Well, I'm happy to be free, because...
freedom...
is very beautiful.
A NETFLIX ORIGINAL SERIES
WELCOME TO BADIRAGUATO
THE DAY I MET EL CHAPO
NEW YEAR'S EVE, 2015
THREE MONTHS AFTER MEETING EL CHAPO,
KATE THROWS A PARTY TO CELEBRATE THE NEW YEAR.
TV PRESENTER/ACTRESS
No one could believe it, and we were all like,
"Sean Penn is over there!"
We all jokingly said, "I'll stand next to him, so you can take the photo."
Everyone was talking about him.
PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTOS AND CEO, GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS
I threw that party because I was very nervous.
The Rolling Stone article was about to come out.
I thought, "Let's have a good time and pretend nothing's happening."
I said, "Let's just relax." And he said the same.
"It's New Year's Eve. Let's clear our minds a little."
But,
I hadn't told anyone.
On January 2nd,
after spending the holidays with friends at her house,
we went out for breakfast, and she said to us,
"Soon, something will hit the news. Something big.
I want you to know that I'm OK, that nothing's going to happen, and I'm safe."
So I considered...
everything.
I always felt I had a duty to my closest friends
to give them a heads-up so they would not be caught off-guard,
by the press or the news, and to stop them from worrying.
I had to tell them something so they would know I was OK.
A bomb was about to go off. They had to know it would be OK.
I thought, "Oh, I know...
I think Kate is gay and she is about to come out to the world."
My first thought.
Then I thought, "She's doing drugs.
I bet she'll tell us that she's using."
I considered every possibility, except what happened.
JANUARY 3, 2016
AFTER RECEIVING EL CHAPO'S VIDEO IN NOVEMBER,
SEAN PENN MUST HAVE IT TRANSLATED FOR HIS ROLLING STONE ARTICLE.
She told me,
"Sean Penn is working on something
and wants to know if you could help him.
Because he needs someone...
who can understand colloquialisms in both English and Spanish."
I had no idea what this was about.
I go to his house the following day, and he shows me El Chapo's interview.
I remember seeing the screen. My first reaction was to laugh a little.
He asks, "What?"
...compared to the images we had seen.
And he tells me...
I said, "OK..." I started thinking, "Oh my God."
You have to be real and translate El Chapo, like...
I was more concerned with repeating what he said verbatim.
I didn't want him to be mad at me.
- Do you consider yourself a violent man? - No, sir.
Sean stayed with me for a while, and then he went out.
He told me...
and then he said...
And I never saw him again.
The relationship between Sean Penn and Kate del Castillo fractured
because she started to question him.
He forced me to answer all of his questions,
or for Mr. Guzm�n to provide answers whenever he wanted.
I'd tell him, "You're not getting it. He's running for his life.
He cannot just answer whenever you want him to."
Things got tense between us. We would yell at each other over the phone.
I hung up on him several times. He did the same.
I felt he wasn't getting it.
Ultimately, he's American. He doesn't get how tense it is in Mexico.
Unless you're Mexican or live in Mexico, you cannot know
the terror that us Mexicans have experienced for so many years.
So, for him, it was very easy to just ask for things.
And I was already reaching my limit, but I wanted us to be on good terms.
I noticed she was acting weird.
She seemed very distressed.
She was constantly on her phone.
Sean had told me to find a lawyer two or three weeks before.
"Why do I need a lawyer?"
He said, "Get a lawyer in case something happens."
So I was referred to this lawyer, Aguilar Zinser.
I hired him...
Well, we entered into a verbal agreement, because we never signed anything,
and I never paid him or anything.
Speaking in code, I told him, "The man who is on the run...
An article is about to be published.
An American actor wrote it for Rolling Stone magazine,
and I'm involved."
And then on Thursday, he called me to say no.
His firm didn't want the case.
When the news broke, I didn't have a lawyer.
JANUARY 7, 2016
FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE ARTICLE IS PUBLISHED,
SEAN PENN INVITES KATE TO READ THE FINAL VERSION.
Sean asked me to please come to the Sunset Tower Hotel.
It was full of actors everywhere
because it was the Golden Globe Awards weekend.
And he was very happy to be socializing with everyone.
I got there and he said,
"Come here, Kate. Have a seat."
He started introducing me to all these famous actors...
And I said, "No, I'll go sit somewhere else.
I came...
to read the article."
He wanted me to see the layout.
I didn't care about the layout. "Look how nice it looks!"
"I don't care. I want to know what it says."
And I started reading it on the phone,
and I started getting really angry.
I was pissed off to the point that I wanted to throw the phone at his face.
Because he never sent me that final version.
He wrote that El Chapo had sent me flowers, which was a lie.
He said we passed a military checkpoint. That was also a lie.
Supposedly, the marines
let them through a military checkpoint.
That was a lie. I knew there was nothing there.
JOURNALIST
I didn't read it in full,
because I wasn't going to read the full article on a tiny phone.
I started getting upset.
I left the phone and told his friends I was leaving.
They wanted me to wait and say goodbye to him.
I said, "I don't want to say goodbye. I want to leave now."
And I went straight home feeling very upset,
but I mostly felt angry.
And that was the last time I saw Sean Penn.
JANUARY 8, 2016
THREE DAYS BEFORE THE ROLLING STONE ARTICLE IS PUBLISHED...
Now!
Get in!
I remember my phone started ringing, and I saw the message.
Then I turned on the TV and found out he had been captured.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: WE GOT HIM
I was truly shocked. The article was due to be published on Monday.
I thought, "This is not right."
My instinct was telling me
that this was not right.
Later that day, the Attorney General said that a Hollywood actor and an actress
had helped them find Mr. Guzm�n.
Another important factor that allowed his location to be identified
was the discovery of Guzm�n Loera's intentions
to film a biographical movie,
for which he got in touch with actresses and producers,
which has already opened a new line of investigation.
The investigation has sparked speculation
on who would bring El Chapo's story to life.
At the beginning, they didn't give any names.
Kate wondered whether they would say her name or not.
And it was complete chaos.
...with a few producers and artists.
Men and women.
I can't give more details.
I went crazy because they put us all at risk
by saying that they had found him because of us.
Because of us or thanks to us.
The first thing I told Mr. Guzm�n Loera
was that the media and the Mexican government
claimed that they were able to capture him because he was being followed.
He was like, "Nah," and started laughing, as if saying...
KATE'S US LAWYER
I felt completely powerless and completely alone.
It was mainly a feeling of uncertainty.
After Arely G�mez said that, a journalist told me he already knew it was me.
I called Kate del Castillo, knowing she had been in touch with El Chapo Guzm�n,
not because of the government but because of a source close to Guzm�n.
I don't know why I answered.
I was paranoid. I thought it might be important. I don't know.
I was anxious, so I answered...
She was very nervous, and I asked her to explain whether she was the one involved.
She answered with these exact words:
"Whatever it is, there's a time and a place. Don't ever call me again."
I was petrified. My blood pressure dropped at that moment.
I had a constant feeling that the floor was swallowing me.
So I called Sean and said to him, "This will come out tonight."
I called Jason from Rolling Stone and said...
I remember that, before the news broke,
someone posted a picture on Twitter.
It was the first photo where you could see Mr. Penn with El Chapo.
The moment I saw that picture, my blood froze. It just froze.
I sent it to Kate,
and she said, "Where did you get that from?"
And I said to her, "It's on social media."
Shortly after that, Univision came out with their piece,
and that's when the whole thing blew up.
The name "Kate del Castillo" has been linked to "El Chapo Guzm�n".
The actress's manifesto, which back then caused a lot of controversy in Mexico,
now resonates once more,
after it became known that she, together with American actor Sean Penn,
managed to meet up with El Chapo himself last October
for an interview published by Rolling Stone magazine.
EL CHAPO SPEAKS
WE'LL EXTRADITE EL CHAPO
Penn declared to the Associated Press that he has nothing to hide.
Kate del Castillo has yet to comment. She surely will at some point.
I never thought that she had taken that risk.
I almost fainted... I almost fainted.
The put her in a high-risk position, not just her but her family, too.
She was left adrift in the face of criminal organizations
that could have misconstrued her actions or the way she behaved.
I was in El Chapo's territory.
I was in Chiapas.
And I had just finished interviewing one of El Chapo's former employees.
My boss, my producer, tells me, "Vero, everybody is looking for you."
And I said, "Why? Let me work. I'm in the middle of an interview."
"Have you read about your sister?" "What?"
"Well, she met with El Chapo."
SHE BELIEVES KATE IS THE PREY IN A MANHUNT
I had a panic attack in the middle of the interview.
I couldn't believe, and that's why I got so angry,
that I'd found out through the media and my boss, and not my sister,
that this bomb was about to go off.
I found out about this at the same time you and all the other journalists did.
Her life changed drastically, in every possible way.
When we'd go out, paparazzi would follow our car.
We had to hide, take detours...
It was like something out of Mission Impossible.
Don Eric!
Grant me an interview, Don Eric!
We'd leave, and they would be waiting outside.
Eric was at the theater. They wouldn't let us pass.
They were always outside. We didn't want to talk to anyone.
They were just there. It was horrible. It was horrible.
I won't say anything about my daughter. Nothing. Nothing.
There were many unpleasant situations,
because the press here tried to reach out to every single one of us
to find out what we did or did not know.
I didn't like being in that situation.
It was a constant bombardment and attack, and it was annoying.
Kate called me.
She said, "Have you read Rolling Stone?"
I said, "I haven't, but I know about everything."
"What do you think?" I said, "Holy shit!"
All of that was leaked from my phones.
They took the phones without a warrant,
so we don't know to what extent they manipulated the information.
The government made a point to leak those messages
and plant the seed of doubt.
They half-leaked the phone conversations. They edited them.
They had the nerve to edit them and lie. It's a very serious crime.
A JUDGE COMPARED KATE'S MESSAGES AGAINST THOSE PUBLISHED BY THE PRESS
AND DETERMINED THEY WERE NOT IDENTICAL.
THE TEXT MESSAGES REGISTERED DO NOT MATCH.
Kate's case is not, and has never been, a judiciary case.
It's a case of political persecution
that uses the justice system as a tool for punishment,
for her daring to do what she did.
And suddenly, what was the latest mainstream media scandal?
Kate del Castillo and a ridiculous, absurd and non-existent love affair
with a drug kingpin.
The phrase that went viral is, "I'll care for you more than my own eyes."
And, "No one has taken care of me."
KATE: I CAN NEVER REPAY YOU
She went from being a famous Mexican actress in Hollywood
to being an actress being persecuted by the government
because of her relationships with outlaws.
There was all this mystery about whether something else had happened.
Kate del Castillo and Joaqu�n "El Chapo" Guzm�n
engaged in sexual intercourse during one of those encounters
somewhere in the jungle in the south of Mexico.
They even said I was pregnant.
Kate del Castillo revealed she is pregnant,
and confirmed that the father is the leader of the Sinaloa Cartel,
Joaqu�n "El Chapo" Guzm�n.
This whole thing turned into a soap opera,
because people started following her
thinking that perhaps there had been
an affair or a sexual relationship between them.
I even asked her, "Did anything happen with El Chapo?
Anything at all?"
She said, "Of course not, sister."
In my heart and deep inside, I knew nothing had happened.
But there was a point where people's ghoulish comments made me doubt it.
There are many examples of drug lords who ended up being captured,
as the song goes, "because of the love of a woman."
Ask anyone in the street,
"Why is Kate del Castillo famous?"
"Because she slept with El Chapo."
That's the image that stuck in people's minds.
If you seek to destroy a woman's reputation,
the best way is to attack her sexual morality.
Lots of nasty things were said.
That she was a drug addict...
- That she... - That she laundered money.
Afterwards, the federal government manipulated the situation.
There was nothing.
We knew that if there had been any situation involving money,
she would now be in jail, and so would I.
They tried to prove that El Chapo had invested in her tequila business.
They haven't.
They tried to prove he gave her money. They haven't.
That was discussed on day one.
I explained to Mr. Joaqu�n Guzm�n Loera that under no circumstances
could there be any money coming from him,
because if the federal government,
or any production company interested in the movie project found out,
it would complicate things.
So money was left out of the negotiation completely.
Of course she made that clear. And I explained it to Mr. Guzm�n Loera.
I thought the Mexican State was taking revenge.
It also reflected the sexist culture that took aim at her.
The other option was to go after Sean Penn.
And the issue here is about a Mexican woman
talking to a Mexican drug lord.
I think the feeling that Kate and other people might have
is that there has been a certain misogynistic and sexist element,
because all the focus has been placed on her and no one else.
It's a bit far-fetched.
What about Sean Penn and the producers? Nothing.
The Attorney General even said, "They are not under investigation."
And that was odd, because if you are investigating the contact made with him,
you investigate everyone involved.
They did it because she is a woman.
And they did it because she's beautiful.
She had all the characteristics of the propitiatory victim.
This country
continues to survive through human sacrifice.
Kate was persecuted by the media.
The media created a replicating effect with their attack on her.
The cover story was no longer about El Chapo Guzm�n evading the authorities.
It was about Kate del Castillo meeting with El Chapo Guzm�n.
That didn't happen by chance.
It was intentional.
JANUARY 18, 2016
THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT ISSUES KATE WITH A SUMMONS
FOR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND MONEY LAUNDERING.
According to a spokesperson from Mexico's Attorney General's Office,
the Office has issued a warrant and an order to appear in court
for Mexican actress Kate del Castillo.
Scandals are universal phenomena.
And the authoritative media control in Mexico promotes
scandals like this one to distract us
and keep us from focusing on the root cause of the problem.
We always see great complicity
between the authorities, organized crime and narcos.
The government's attack on Kate
was due to public humiliation.
That humiliation happened when they found out
that Kate had an interview with the most wanted man in the world.
What they won't forgive Kate for
is how she highlighted the Mexican government's complete failure.
El Chapo escapes...
and sets up a meeting with Hollywood.
INVESTIGATE SEAN AND KATE
It is known...
Arely G�mez, the Attorney General herself said, "Oh, yes. We already knew that.
We even have pictures of Kate del Castillo and Sean Penn
at the airport during this visit."
This is very important, because the Mexican government already knew
where El Chapo Guzm�n was even before they visited him, and afterwards.
She stepped into a context of great complicity
that already existed
between El Chapo, the authorities, private companies...
It's the current complex situation that defines Mexico.
What do you think about the official version
that explains the purchase of a "white house"
as the result of the work of a Televisa actress?
Well, you see, I was never paid properly so...
- Could you buy a house like that? - No, there's no way.
Really? But you're a great actress...
I think that, in Kate del Castillo's case,
the political and judicial persecution she is facing
has to do with her comments about Ang�lica Rivera.
During my time there, I was one of the most important leading ladies.
And I never... I mean, I wish... I never had...
I had to ask for them to...
When I got a divorce, I had to ask them to help me,
because my salary wasn't enough.
IN NOVEMBER 2014, THE FIRST LADY OF MEXICO
PUBLISHED A VIDEO MESSAGE ADDRESSED TO ALL MEXICANS.
I worked for 25 years in the entertainment industry
as an actress and TV host,
and I also worked on several marketing campaigns,
and I received the corresponding payments for my work.
I want to make it very clear to you, the Mexican people,
that I have nothing to hide,
that I've worked my whole life,
that, thanks to that, I'm an independent woman,
and that I was able to build a patrimony with honesty and with all my hard work.
Surely this didn't go down well and wasn't appreciated
by the President, or the First Lady,
or the ministers, or Pe�a Nieto's government,
no doubt about it.
The wealthy cry with laughter when the poor starve to death.
It wasn't just her. There were several...
There was Ver�nica Castro, who is an icon in the case of Mexico.
There were several renowned actors and actresses
who said the same thing Kate did,
but the government doesn't hate them.
And especially during that time, she was really worried,
so she wouldn't leave her house.
If I felt confused, you can only imagine how she felt.
My friends told me to leave my house
because it wasn't safe given that everyone knew where I lived.
This wall of trees you see here...
There was a hole like that, a window.
Who would have access in order to do something like that?
It had to be during the night, because when we went to bed, that wasn't there!
I got paranoid, so I had security cameras installed.
I was very scared and stressed because I didn't know what would happen.
I didn't know if my phones had been tapped, if there were drones...
I honestly wasn't thinking clearly. I knew nothing.
On January 2nd, at her home in Los Angeles,
I looked out the window in my room, and I saw a guy...
A man...
doing the gardening,
but without scissors.
He was dressed like a regular person,
with a cell phone in his hand.
I was walking along here with a friend,
and a guy showed up with a huge dog.
Like, a Rottweiler. It was very intimidating.
So we turned around. He was running, but when he saw us, he stopped.
He began walking slowly without taking his eyes off me.
He didn't look at my friend.
He passed by, without saying a word, and just stared.
We looked at each other and realized we had goosebumps.
She said to me, "Did you see that?" And I answered, "Yes!"
And she said...
I said to her, "He was from the DEA." She said, "Yes!"
So I was here in my room, and I heard a helicopter.
I thought, "That's weird." It was right there.
Right here. What else can they see? The only thing around is my house.
I came out because of the noise. They began taking photos.
The minute they saw me come out, the helicopter took off and left.
You're emotionally very vulnerable
because your privacy has been invaded in every possible way.
I'm not leaving my house,
because my house is the one thing I got with my hard work and my money,
and it's the only place where I feel safe.
Where would I go? A hotel? Pay for a hotel room? For how long?
A month? Two months? A year? No.
She hasn't yet spoken publicly, or released a press statement,
or filmed a video with her version.
That's actress Kate del Castillo.
But Lydia Cacho, one of Mexico's bravest independent journalists,
recently met with Kate.
Kate is visibly frightened.
She cannot understand the reason behind these vicious attacks
from the Mexican government.
Kate called me. I was at home.
I said to her,
"I'm on my way," and got on a plane the next day.
Her assistant and accountant were there.
And I said to them, "OK, guys, here's what I need...
First, get all the documents out,
because they will try to freeze all of Kate's bank accounts.
You must have the documents in your hands,
so they know you have everything in order.
Two, you need to have all tax declarations in the US and Mexico in your hands."
I asked Kate directly, "Did he give you any money for your tequila business?"
She said, "Never."
I said, "Tell me how you run the tequila business."
She immediately pulled out the tequila contract in front of her accountant.
And the truth is there isn't a single piece of evidence against her
that could incriminate her.
I think I was still in shock,
and you made me remember many things, and created a timeline.
You said, "This is what they will ask for. You must have this ready."
That's when I said...
I needed someone to give me a sense of order because I was all over the place.
KATE DEL CASTILLO WILL TESTIFY IN USA, HER LAWYER CONFIRMS
I first got a call from journalist, Lydia Cacho.
She said, "Are you watching the news about El Chapo?"
I said, "Yes."
"A good friend of mine will give you a call.
I would like you to listen to her and maybe represent her."
I asked who the friend was. She said, "Kate del Castillo."
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE
The first thing she wanted to know was whether, under Mexican law,
she had committed any crimes.
There was talk about the handling of illicit funds, or money laundering.
And I can honestly say there wasn't anything...
There was nothing that would make you say, "They almost got her here."
Nothing at all.
JANUARY 28, 2016
KATE HAS BEEN OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE AND IN HER HOME FOR THREE WEEKS.
We finally had a good day, because we had spent many days crying,
enduring criticism and hearing lies on TV.
We were having a good time, dancing,
and we went two bed at around two in the morning.
At around 4:20 a.m., Kate knocks on my bedroom's door.
And she tells me, "They're coming for me."
I was asleep, and they called.
The security guys called me on the phone,
and they said...
I came to Jessica's room,
who thankfully was staying here with her boyfriend.
I said to her, "Call my lawyer."
She was crying and shaking.
They were knocking on the door really hard, like the world was about to end.
They showed me the badge, right in my face.
I said to them...
They asked me, "Why?"
Because...
More people started to come in.
There were, like, two or three there, two more here, and here...
There was a woman here.
She looked really mean. She was leaning against the wall.
They asked me to sit down. I sat here.
And the DEA agent sat here, from either New York or Washington.
The guy from Mexico's DEA sat here.
They said to me, "So, we're going to ask you a few questions.
We hope you will answer them,
otherwise you'll go to Washington with the FBI, who are really tough."
I said, "I'd rather go with them, but have my lawyer with me."
The adrenaline in my heart was pumping really hard.
They want to harass and scare you.
They had her right there,
to question her.
It was
a really horrible experience.
They said...
And I was like...
And I said...
I mean...
...I said.
"And for my mother, my father, my sister and my nephew.
And you won't leave until my mother tells me
that there's an agent at her door looking after her."
I got really angry.
And I said, "And I don't think the cartel has anything against me.
I think you just came to my house to scare me, but you won't succeed.
I'm not afraid of the cartel. I fear the Mexican government.
If anything happens to me, it will be because of the government, not the cartel.
They will blame it on the cartel, but..."
And I said to them...
The woman who was standing there, who I thought didn't like me at all...
As I was passing her, she gave me a big hug.
It wasn't just a regular hug. It was a very meaningful hug.
She didn't say a word, but I could feel it was like a...
Like a...
Like a hug between women.
As if she wanted to say...
I think she knew they were giving me a hard time.
They were giving me hell.
I remember thinking, "The meanest one ended up being the nicest one."
Everybody knew that Kate was there, that Sean Penn was there,
and that two Hollywood producers were there.
And yet the only one they investigated was Kate del Castillo.
EL CHAPO SPEAKS
I knew it was dangerous.
But going through a dangerous experience is exciting,
at least for me.
I've always liked adrenaline.
Plus, I wasn't going to go alone.
I would be joined by three men, one of whom was American, I mean...
I felt I was protected.
There's a tiny detail in his chronicle that went unnoticed.
Sean Penn said he got...
a call from a family member who works for the DEA,
who told him,
"You are being followed. You have to be careful."
So, somehow, the US government knew about these visits.
JANUARY 14, 2016
Perhaps Sean Penn had something to do with it.
Maybe he leaked the location, but I can't say for sure.
After he found out that he betrayed Kate,
that things didn't go as planned,
of course Mr. Guzm�n thought
that everyone else involved - Sean Penn,
Fernando Sulich�n,
and Jos� Ib��ez,
were the ones who were to blame, in part, for the betrayal.
But they know it.
If there was a betrayal, they know it.
His betrayal was the fact that he put my life in danger,
that he didn't protect me,
given that he knew about his plans and had his own agenda.
That's what hurt me.
I trusted him 100%, and that's why I brought him along.
JANUARY 19, 2017
EL CHAPO IS EXTRADITED TO THE UNITED STATES.
The process to extradite to the United States
the powerful Mexican drug dealer, Joaqu�n "El Chapo" Guzm�n,
formally began last Sunday.
El Chapo Guzm�n's extradition
was an offering
to President Donald Trump.
They sent him, or extradited him, to the United States
the day before the inauguration of Trump's presidency.
The person who will be able to get information out of El Chapo
and has power over El Chapo Guzm�n's future is Donald Trump alone.
And that was a huge gift from Pe�a Nieto to Donald Trump.
In the case of El Chapo,
there's money that the American government is looking to seize.
It has been said that there is an estimated $14 billion.
And when it comes to drug trafficking, and other issues, like the gringos say,
you always have to ask...
MAY 6, 2017
Is that from court?
I see.
Yes, they might call me to testify.
It's what I...
It's what I still don't know, and most certainly don't want.
AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF OF NOT WORKING, KATE RETURNS TO THE SCREEN
AND SHE ONCE AGAINS PLAYS A CONTROVERSIAL CHARACTER.
No one leaves a president.
I'm not leaving the President.
I'm leaving you, Diego.
Kate and her character Emilia have in common
the fear of making an entire government angry.
And being in the spotlight is not an easy thing to do.
Ingobernable is one of the projects I'm most proud of.
We did it under very difficult circumstances.
Being in a situation like this is a real shame.
We had to delay the production and relocate to a different country
because of the charges I was facing: money laundering, obstruction of justice
and the intention to make deals with narcos.
Because we had to protect Kate,
and protect the production,
we decided to shoot in San Diego.
The film crew in San Diego was made up of 165 people
and there were another 165 people here.
And no one found out that we were filming.
Out of all the people I know, Kate is the one who is most proud of her roots.
She's a woman who loves her dear Mexico.
PREMIERE OF INGOBERNABLE, MIAMI
- Kate! - Hello!
She will come back anytime.
Once she is sure
that she can set foot in her home country,
she will.
I won't say it because of our government...
But we know that at any given time, they can make anything up,
they plant their famous "seed,"
they open a new file, and you end up being jailed.
I think that if you know you're not loved by a country, especially ours,
you would fear everything.
They can put drugs inside your suitcase,
they can say you haven't paid your taxes, even though you have,
they can claim you abused a minor...
It's very sad, but there are countries, like ours, where that happens,
so I think she's doing it to protect herself.
- Are you nervous, Kate? - Yes, very. Is it obvious?
I wouldn't recommend that she come here.
Not until this presidency is over
and she has the political and judicial guarantee
that the next president will put the matter to rest.
See you in a bit. Thanks.
See you in a bit.
Of course it hurts. Obviously.
Everything that's happening to me and my family hurts.
Of course. I'm going through the toughest time of my life. I mean...
Of course I want to go back. I love Mexico because I'm Mexican, above all.
But...
What I mean is that I will not let that defeat me.
She misses Mexico a lot. It's her native country, her home.
Being able to go anywhere in the world but your own country...
is painful.
PREMIERE OF INGOBERNABLE, MEXICO CITY
Today is the premiere of Ingobernable in Mexico.
I would have loved to be there. I won't deny it.
But that's it. I'm not going to think about it or anything...
It makes me jealous that it's happening without me,
but a good kind of jealous.
As Pe�a Nieto's presidency starts to fade away,
I think the chances of Kate returning to Mexico
will get better and better.
Hello to everyone there.
It's a shame I can't see the faces of the members of the press and my colleagues.
It's incredible that you're there.
I cannot go back because I'm being attacked for something I didn't do,
and because this witch hunt has been completely...
exhausting and too intense.
I want them to leave me alone.
My dear colleagues, I'm sorry that I can't hug you all tonight,
but I wish you the very best of luck.
Have they cut the feed yet?
- Yes. It's already showing... - Great.
It's understandable that she's a target.
It's the tweet. It's the meeting.
It's the interviews she's given,
saying she doesn't regret it and would do it again.
One after the other.
When will my sister learn the lesson?
Because a lesson not learned is a lesson you'll repeat.
I want you to stop getting yourself into more trouble,
or causing more trouble for my family.
Maybe she didn't do things as she should have.
Because I'm not saying Kate did things the right way.
But she knows why she did them.
Unfortunately, I hurt a lot of people around me...
And I never meant to.
And I never meant to offend anyone, of course.
I'm here. I can hear you.
How are you, dear?
I admire her...
for what she did.
She's a brave woman
who seeks the wellbeing of her country, no matter what.
She's my daughter and I'll back her until the day I die.
Both of us.
Because we love her. Because we know who she is.
And we have suffered the consequences.
But, no storm lasts forever.
If she wants to do the movie about El Chapo, then she should.
I hope she approaches it very carefully,
and doesn't try to make a case for it,
because we can't forget we have some very real and recent deaths
that drug dealing has caused.
I think you have to be very ethical
when making money from, or entertaining people with, a story like this one.
These are not the stories of Al Capone that happened decades ago.
This is still happening.
With El Chapo, you have the possibility of telling a story
that every production company is dying to tell.
Many producers had already come forward to say,
"Allow me to tell your story. I'll buy the rights."
But none of them were Kate.
It's very important to tell the life stories of drug dealers.
El Chapo Guzm�n was the drug lord of this presidency.
People need to find out what's behind all that. The good and the bad.
People who don't know me don't...
They will doubt whether...
whether...
whether, in this case, I'm a good person or a bad one.
I want to be the one who brings forward a story that concerns everyone.
It could be incredibly important for my career.
And for me, personally, as a Mexican.
Talking about organized crime in Mexico...
is important for me.
That's why it's important that Kate tells the story.
That's why it's important that Kate is involved in the development of this story.
Kate's version is the one that has to be told.
Because otherwise...
Hollywood will once again reduce us to the most trivial of stereotypes.
The evil... greaser... Mexican... Chapo.
And the soap opera starlet.
And we will lose the nuances
that reveal the true depth of this story
and how complex it is.
I think what matters here
is that I'm not the only one suffering the injustice in Mexico.
There are millions of us Mexicans
who suffer daily as a result of the government's bullying.
We are all angry at the government,
but we remain silent.
The problem is not the people who remain silent and just watch,
but the ones
who could say something, but don't.
PE�'A GET OUT
The problem is that everybody is afraid, but that's only if one person speaks out.
If many people speak out,
it cannot cost the lives of 100 million Mexicans.
It's impossible.
That's what saves the world:
people doing the right thing,
which is to stand alongside and help people who are at risk.
And the right thing is to defend people's rights.
I think what people need to understand
is the strength required to stand up to a country of male chauvinists,
who have decided to go after you.
The loneliness and the pain it entails...
If you think standing up to a male chauvinist at home is hard,
try standing up to a government full of them,
which has the means to destroy you.
That's what Kate faced.
Someone has to say something.
And maybe many other people have said something.
Hope is the last thing that is lost.
And we need more people to speak up. This is not the time to remain silent.
It's the time to speak up.
As long as I have a voice,
I will use it to talk about the injustices that happen in Mexico.
In November 2016, Kate was granted an appeal
against the Attorney General's office
for illegally leaking information to the media
in the investigation against her,
as a result of her meeting with Joaqu�n "El Chapo" Guzm�n.
Six months later, Kate's appeal was revoked.
The Attorney General's interferences were deemed legal
Because Kate, as an actress, is a public figure
and must endure interference in her private life and personal data,
even when annoying or hurtful.
JUNE 2017
From the moment everything exploded in Mexico and everything went public,
it's been a year and a half.
What they did to me,
how they publicly destroyed me, that can't be undone.
I won't be the one who remains silent.
I'm going to Washington to file a complaint against the Mexican government
before the Inter-American Commission of Human Rights.
Since I'm a public figure,
the country has the right to trample all over my human rights.
And it's completely illegal.
INTER-AMERICAN COMMISSION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
They simply cannot trample all over our human rights.
The Constitution says so.
I'm going with my lawyers to see whether anyone other than Mexico
can do something.
The actress alleges that Pe�a Nieto's government
caused damage to her and her career
by leaking information about the investigation
that resulted from her meeting with drug dealer Joaqu�n "El Chapo" Guzm�n.
She states that would constitute a violation of her honor, her dignity,
and, above all, her right to the presumption of innocence.
23RD JUNE 2017
I don't know what will happen, but not doing it would be a mistake.
It would mean submission.
And I don't feel defeated just yet.
I won't allow it.
Sean Penn was contacted for an interview.
He never responded.
The production company contacted Fernando Sulich�n and Jos� Ib��ez...
Fernando Sulich�n was initially interested,
but later became unavailable.
Jos� Ib��ez never responded.
Joaqu�n "El Chapo" Guzm�n awaits his trial,
set to begin on April 16, 2018.
He's currently being held in a New York prison.
The investigation by the Mexican state against Kate
into money laundering and harbouring ended due to lack of evidence.
There are many people in the world who are unable to speak up
against violations to their human rights.
Subtitle translation by Laura Cucurullo
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