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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,520 Tonight, on Panorama, 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,160 the scandal of our polluted rivers. 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,480 Get ready, it's coming. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:13,520 Oh. 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,840 Here we go. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,280 You can smell it. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,720 You can see the steam coming off of it. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,960 We capture evidence of untreated sewage being dumped. 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,120 It's just started to flow. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Just as I'm stood here talking now, I've just heard it start. 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,440 We see the damage sewage causes... 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,200 That is disgusting! 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,440 Ugh! 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,480 ..and we expose the water companies breaking the law. 15 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:45,280 All of this is illegal. 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,760 Wow! 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,360 And this is a month's worth of data. 18 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,000 We're looking at them spilling untreated sewage 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,760 for over half a month. 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,400 The Thames is a world-famous river, 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,400 and it's a central part of London life. 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,440 But despite its importance, parts of the river are being 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,600 used as an open sewer. 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,280 This is Barnes, in South-West London. 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,920 Now, the river's pretty low at the moment, so I'm standing 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,800 on what you might think is the riverbed. 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Except, it isn't. 28 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,600 It's a mound of wet wipes. 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Ugh! 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,880 It's just... 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,720 Look at these. 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,080 It's just wet wipes after wet wipes after wet wipes. 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,400 It's just everywhere, you know? 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,040 How can we live like this? 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Debbie Leach runs a river charity that's campaigning 36 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:04,960 to clean up the Thames. 37 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,200 It's about the size of two tennis courts. 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,320 And who knows what's down there in the river? 39 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,360 This is just what we can see. 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,520 You don't really realise what it is until you get down in this... 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,720 Yeah. ..and you start really 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,320 prodding around it. Yeah, yeah. 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,160 I mean, every time the stick goes in, wet wipes come out. 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,920 And when you're standing up there on the riverbank, 45 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:32,600 you assume this is just mud and sand, but it's not. 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 It's an artificial construct. Yeah. 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,280 We call this the Great Wet Wipe Reef. 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,880 This is thoroughly depressing, isn't it? 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,560 It's shocking, it really is. 50 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,440 Debbie, where are all these coming from? 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,240 It's coming from the sewage system. 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,320 These wet wipes are being flushed down the loos, 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,160 getting into the system. 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,720 Wet wipes shouldn't be flushed down the loo, 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,680 and they shouldn't end up in the river. 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,760 This is raw sewage. 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,880 This is everyone's excrement going into the River Thames. 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,000 The river that people love and want to enjoy and picnic by. 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,240 It's absolutely obscene. 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:33,280 Thames Water says it's spending £4 billion on a new super sewer 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,920 for London, and that it will deliver a huge reduction in discharges 62 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,560 into the Thames when it's completed, in 2024. 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,080 At the moment, the system relies on pipes like these. 64 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:51,360 They're called storm overflows. 65 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,600 Sewers don't just carry sewage from our homes, 66 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,960 rainwater pours into them too and, sometimes, that combination can 67 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,360 overwhelm the system. 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,960 These pipes are designed to act as release valves 69 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,200 in very wet weather, allowing water companies 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,440 to dump untreated sewage directly into the river. 71 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,560 The problem is that storm overflows are being used much too frequently. 72 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:27,120 In 2020, the water companies used them 403,000 times in England alone, 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,360 pumping out sewage for a staggering 3.1 million hours. 74 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,240 The water industry says it's trying to use them less often. 75 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:48,040 In periods of high ground water, intense rain and storms, 76 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,720 there's a risk that the sewer network simply gets overloaded, 77 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,480 and we absolutely can't have sewer flooding in people's homes 78 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,600 and businesses, so overflows allow it to be released 79 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,880 into the environment. 80 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,920 But this isn't exceptional, is it? 81 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,960 This is commonplace. 82 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,800 There's more monitoring than ever, and that's going to give us more 83 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,240 data than we've ever had before, and companies are committed 84 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,360 to reducing the use of overflows into the future. 85 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:28,240 Some of the storm overflows are located at sewage treatment works. 86 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,120 You might think treatment works treat all the sewage that comes 87 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,560 in but, in wet weather, they're also allowed to dump 88 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,760 untreated sewage in the river. 89 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,760 This is the River Wharfe, in Yorkshire. 90 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Mark Barrow has been filming underwater here for years. 91 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,680 The last ten years of my filming around the UK in the rivers, 92 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,880 I am seeing more and more sewage entering the river. 93 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,880 And I would say now 95% of my dives, I will encounter sewage, 94 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:16,000 or wipes, or sanitary towels, some form of waste product that's 95 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,760 been flushed down the toilet. 96 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,840 I'm in the river and then, all of a sudden, you've got this 97 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,840 wall of silt that literally hits you straight in the face. 98 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:32,880 And you know immediately what it is, because it's mixed in with sanitary 99 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,720 waste, and then I have to get out. 100 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,320 And it's not uncommon for me to get out of the water and literally be 101 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,520 draped in these products. 102 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,920 It's vile. 103 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,400 One of the culprits is Wetherby Treatment Works. 104 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,600 Yorkshire Water says some sewage debris entered the river here, 105 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,120 but faults were quickly repaired and clean-ups followed. 106 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:07,240 It says Wetherby is operating legally. 107 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,480 But we don't think that's true. 108 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,280 Mark filmed the works dumping untreated sewage 109 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,360 on a dry day last year. 110 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,600 It's the 5th of November... 111 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,720 and we literally have had no rain whatsoever today, 112 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:34,000 and we've got sewage spewing in. 113 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,720 In fact, it hadn't rained for two days, so the dumping looks illegal. 114 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Mark also filmed sewage being dumped on several other days last year. 115 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,760 It literally started flowing about five minutes ago. 116 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,440 We've had rainfall during the day, but nowhere near has this been 117 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,560 exceptional rainfall. 118 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,440 It's just been what I call normal rain 119 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:08,720 and, yet again, this is flowing. 120 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,640 But we've discovered Yorkshire Water didn't report any of this. 121 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,600 The company told the Environment Agency that Wetherby didn't dump any 122 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,760 untreated sewage last year. 123 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,680 Yorkshire Water told us - if it happened, 124 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,720 it was a single data anomaly. 125 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,320 It will investigate and submit correct data if there has been 126 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,560 an unreported discharge. 127 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,400 When we film with Mark, the overflow starts 128 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,480 dumping sewage again. 129 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,440 It's just started to flow. 130 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Just as I'm stood here talking now, I've just heard it start. 131 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:55,840 We're in flow. 132 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,800 It's starting. 133 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,240 I mean, that shouldn't be flowing. 134 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,640 We've got sunshine. 135 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,840 The rain we had today was just a shower. 136 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,200 You explain that to me, because I can't get my head round it. 137 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,280 It's that smell. 138 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,560 It's... 139 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:18,120 You don't even have to see it to know what it is because it just 140 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,320 hits the back of the nasal cavity. 141 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Yorkshire Water says it aims to help deliver good ecological status 142 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,280 for the whole river by 2027. 143 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,160 It is a complex issue, which requires significant 144 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:46,360 investment over a long period of time. 145 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,880 The company says it's committed to reducing environmental harm 146 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,720 and is working closely with the Government. 147 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,800 The Government has set up a Storm Overflows Task Force 148 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,440 and is promising new laws to help stop sewage pollution. 149 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,920 This is something that, historically, has been 150 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:09,160 going on for a very long time, but that's something that both 151 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,880 the water companies and government now are tackling with a great deal 152 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,480 of speed and urgency, and rightly so. 153 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,720 As the Environment Minister, I'm making this a priority. 154 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,360 So, I take what you say, it is serious, it needs 155 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,440 tackling, we're tackling it. 156 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:37,080 Six out of seven rivers in England are not in good ecological health. 157 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,400 There are many causes of pollution. 158 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,720 Sewage is one of the worst. 159 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,840 Untreated sewage is normally screened and passed through storage 160 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,800 tanks before it's dumped, but that doesn't remove 161 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,040 the harmful pollutants. 162 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,560 You can smell the approach. 163 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:04,160 Yeah, I can, there's a definite whiff of sewage in the air. 164 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,800 I've come to a Thames Water plant at Witney, in Oxfordshire. 165 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,560 Ashley Smith wants to show me the storm overflow. 166 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:13,600 And that's coming out of that square, out there. 167 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,680 You can see the... 168 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:17,040 Oh! ..the water billowing. 169 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,320 He says it's been dumping untreated sewage for the past 14 days. 170 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,760 And this really shouldn't be spilling, except for 171 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,440 exceptional circumstances? 172 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,440 If there's an exceptional rainfall - heavy rainfall, 173 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,520 or heavy snow that's melting - then we'd expect to see that coming 174 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,160 out for a short period of time, but not for days, and not for weeks. 175 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Wow! 176 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,600 And it's definitely coming out today. 177 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,040 We can see the sort of current and the swirls. 178 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,480 Yeah, sure. Yeah, you can, yeah. 179 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,880 That water that's coming out of there is that classic, 180 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:53,080 signature sewage grey. 181 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Thames Water says the sewage is partially treated - 182 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,600 because it's screened and settled in storage tanks - but you can see 183 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,040 what it does to the river. 184 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,680 You can see the fungus here already, just in that margin there. 185 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:12,560 You see that? What do you mean, fungus? 186 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:14,880 See that gooey, grey, browny-grey gloopy stuff sticking to it? 187 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,000 Yeah. 188 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,160 That is sewage fungus? Yeah. 189 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,800 It's actually a bacteria, but it's called sewage fungus. 190 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:25,080 It's absolutely battered with it. 191 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Now, this might be the most disgusting thing I've done 192 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:37,680 in a while, but I can't resist having a closer look at this, 193 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:39,520 so I want to just see if... Yeah. 194 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,320 ..I can get a bit out. 195 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,160 The whole thing is smothered in this gunk and this slime. 196 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,840 Yeah, yeah. 197 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:55,000 I have to say, the smell gives you a clue of what's causing it. 198 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,960 Yeah. And there's so much of it. 199 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,040 I mean, it is just deep here. 200 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,680 Absolutely tonnes of it. Look at all of that. 201 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:07,760 That is disgusting! 202 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Ugh! 203 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:18,560 Thames Water says the sewage spill at Witney was due 204 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:22,920 to very wet weather, and it's planning a major increase 205 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,400 to the treatment capacity of the sewage works. 206 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,200 give 207 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,440 It's the Environment Agency's job to police water 208 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,160 companies in England. 209 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,080 It only prosecuted water companies for dumping sewage 210 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,160 four times last year. 211 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,280 The Agency declined to be interviewed, but told us 212 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,280 the regulations are clear and are enforced robustly. 213 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,640 The Environment Agency has a duty to police this space. 214 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,520 They have to do the checking, they have to do the monitoring 215 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,720 and they do the enforcement. 216 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,880 Do you think that enforcement is up to scratch? 217 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,480 If more needs to be done, they must do more. 218 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,200 If sewage is going into our waters when it shouldn't be, 219 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,080 and there is evidence and data, some action has to be taken. 220 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,640 That is... 221 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,280 That is how we keep the environment clean and well looked 222 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,680 after and sustainable. 223 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,840 But some water companies are breaking the law. 224 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:37,120 This storm overflow is on the River Usk, in Wales. 225 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,880 There's loads of paper, toilet roll, sanitary towels 226 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,000 in the trees over there. 227 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Up, and off you go again. 228 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Look at that. 229 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Absolutely foul. 230 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:52,760 So, this... 231 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,840 This is how we treat our protected rivers. 232 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,360 Local resident Angela Jones has recorded untreated sewage 233 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:07,480 being dumped several times a day. 234 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,160 I can't tell you what this is doing to the wildlife. 235 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,640 The Usk is a protected river. 236 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,040 It's a site of special scientific interest and a special 237 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,240 area of conservation. 238 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Angela swims in it every day. 239 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,480 For me, wild swimming is very much who I am. 240 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,320 I wouldn't know anything else, and it feels the most natural place 241 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,160 in the whole world to be. 242 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,840 This is my office and my playground. 243 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Nature has big arms to put around you and embrace you. 244 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,280 But it also has a stony toe to remind you who's boss. 245 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,800 Storm overflows are supposed to have permits. 246 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,960 But we have discovered Welsh Water doesn't have a permit for the one 247 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,440 Angela has been filming. 248 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,360 So the dumping here is illegal. 249 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,360 Get ready, it's coming. 250 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,960 Oh! 251 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:31,200 Here we go. 252 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,680 Ugh. 253 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,560 You can smell it. 254 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,640 You can see the steam coming off of it. 255 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,680 Look at it spewing, look at the colour it comes out. 256 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,320 It's a horrible grey colour. 257 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,880 I can see bits of - floating bits. 258 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,840 I presume that's some sort of toilet paper. 259 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,440 There's toilet paper and stuff in it. 260 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,040 I can't quite believe this. 261 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,600 This is just... 262 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,040 I don't know, I feel so distressed and upset that we've got a protected 263 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,640 river that we really, really aren't protecting. 264 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,760 This is really not good enough. 265 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,400 It's not. 266 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,600 You know? 267 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,680 And you can hear it now, it's just starting to go, 268 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,320 and I'm sure we're going to get another surge of sewerage 269 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,520 coming out now. 270 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,400 Welsh water is a not-for-profit company and says it has invested 271 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,600 more than £1 billion in its waste water network. 272 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,880 It says it hopes to have a permit for the overflow by July. 273 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,640 But right now it is illegally dumping untreated sewage 274 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,200 into a protected river. 275 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,440 Water companies do take these matters extremely seriously. 276 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,080 That's why they are spending over £1 billion over five years 277 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,760 to tackle this challenge. 278 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,400 Would you be happy to swim in a river where untreated 279 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,000 sewage is being dumped? 280 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,360 I think I would want to know that the river 281 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:16,760 was safe from every aspect. 282 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,640 Including how much untreated sewage is there that might make you ill? 283 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,720 I'm a keen swimmer. 284 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,000 I absolutely would want to know that it was safe. 285 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,840 Everyone wants to see our rivers cleaner. 286 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,280 They are not clean enough at the moment, and everybody 287 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:33,320 is working hard towards that goal. 288 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,600 We think we can show that some water companies have been 289 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,840 regularly breaking the law at sewage treatment works. 290 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,200 They can only legally dump sewage at these sites 291 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,400 if two conditions are met. 292 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,680 Firstly, there has to be wet weather. 293 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,720 And secondly, the treatment works has to be dealing with a lot 294 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,680 more sewage than normal. 295 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,600 There are about 9,000 sewage treatment works in the UK and most 296 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,880 of them will have one of these. 297 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,760 It's a permit from the regulator which specifies how much sewage must 298 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,840 be treated before the treatment works can dump untreated 299 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:19,080 sewage into a river. 300 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,880 But we found sites that are spilling before they reach 301 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,920 the specified level. 302 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,960 They're dumping sewage they should be treating. 303 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,840 So on the left-hand side we have the flow going 304 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,200 into the works in litres per second. 305 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,880 And on the right we've got some time stamped data telling 306 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,920 us when it is spilling into the river. 307 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,520 Retired Professor Peter Hammond is a campaigner for clean rivers. 308 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,960 He's analysed data from Thames Water and converted it into graphs. 309 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,240 So this example right in front of us now, which treatment works is this? 310 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,520 This is Stanton Harcourt. 311 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:10,360 Data from 2019 and 2020 shows Stanton 312 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,880 Harcourt in Oxfordshire dumping untreated sewage into a tributary of 313 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,080 the Thames. 314 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,160 It's illegal because the works isn't treating enough sewage 315 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,440 to allow it to legally dump in the river. 316 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,800 So the blue line's representing the amount that's being 317 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,280 treated at the sewage treatment works. 318 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,880 The red line indicates the minimum level at which they should 319 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,160 be treating when they're spilling. 320 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,240 The deal is if you're ever going to spill sewage into a river, 321 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,320 that blue line has to meet the red line? 322 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,760 Yes. 323 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Peter's added a black line on top to show when the works is spilling 324 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,040 untreated sewage. 325 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,440 So when we see these black lines here that's when 326 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,680 the blue lines should be above the red line. 327 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,840 But it isn't. 328 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,600 It's always below. 329 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,040 So all of this is illegal. 330 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,240 Wow. And this is a month's worth of data. 331 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:08,120 We're looking at them spilling untreated sewage, in fact, 332 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,440 dumping untreated sewage here, for over half a month. 333 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,600 And it gets worse. Really? 334 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,480 It gets worse because if you then look 335 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,320 at November and December it's spilling every day 336 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,400 throughout those months. 337 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,800 And then we go into January 2020. 338 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,360 Spilling, you can see the black line, and then February and 339 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:28,120 then March. 340 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,480 So in other words, it spills for six months almost 341 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,520 continuously. 342 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,160 And you can imagine what effect that will have on quite 343 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,560 a small river that this sewage treatment works discharges into. 344 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Wow. 345 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,800 Thames Water says that the issues at Stanton Harcourt will be 346 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,000 addressed by an upgrade in 2025. 347 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,960 You've done this for a number of works. 348 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,880 How often are you seeing examples like this? 349 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,160 Unfortunately, quite regularly. This is not a one-off. 350 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:03,120 And the evidence is that it's happening elsewhere in the country. 351 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,960 This is one of the worst offenders. 352 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:19,200 The giant Mogden Treatment Works in London. 353 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,280 It treats waste from more than 2 million people. 354 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,480 Remember, the site is only supposed to dump if the amount of 355 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,240 sewage being treated exceeds the level stipulated in its permit. 356 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,600 So the blue line has to hit the red line. 357 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,120 But it doesn't come close. 358 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,320 And yet the black line shows the giant 359 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,840 Mogden works was regularly dumping untreated sewage anyway. 360 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,000 This treatment works dumped untreated 361 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,680 sewage on 43 days last year. 362 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,720 We've looked at the data and believe it 363 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,080 breached its permit on every single one of those days. 364 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,040 That's billions of litres of sewage illegally dumped 365 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,880 into the Thames. 366 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,120 Thames Water says that Mogden and a small number of 367 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,800 its sewage works have struggled following periods of heavy rainfall. 368 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,200 The company says it's investing heavily and hasn't paid shareholders 369 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:20,440 for three years. 370 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,040 It says it has "firm commitments to provide the required 371 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,720 additional capacity." 372 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,640 "Putting untreated sewage into rivers is 373 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,320 unacceptable to us, even when legally permitted." 374 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,760 We wanted to find out what was going on elsewhere. 375 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,400 So we sent environmental information requests to the other ten water 376 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,880 companies in England and Wales. 377 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320 We've spent months going through the figures to work out 378 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,400 exactly how sewage was being dumped in our rivers. 379 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,960 Our research makes one thing clear, the big water companies are 380 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:07,280 regularly breaching their permits. 381 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,800 Our data suggests that seven of the ten companies has sites that 382 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,320 have dumped sewage illegally. 383 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,240 Water companies in England and Wales have 384 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,320 been breaching their permits. 385 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,000 The matter of permits and any breaches 386 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,280 is a matter for the regulator. 387 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,040 But be assured, water companies will take that extremely seriously. 388 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,880 They are committed to the highest possible standards. 389 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,720 Why are they breaking the law? 390 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,560 Nobody wants to see discharges in the river. 391 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,600 But this is potentially criminal, isn't it? 392 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,840 Water companies, they won't always get things right. 393 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,480 Where there is an issue they deal with it. 394 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,360 But that's not what we found. 395 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:54,080 Take Welsh Water. 396 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,680 Our data shows three of its treatment works have also dumped 397 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,760 sewage illegally. 398 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,960 One of them is Aberbaiden. 399 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,040 The plant is only allowed to discharge untreated 400 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,480 sewage when the blue line hits the red. 401 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,520 But the black line shows it was dumping illegally for days on end 402 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,040 last December. 403 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,680 It's happening on the same river where we filmed the storm 404 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,280 overflow without a permit. 405 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,920 Once again, Welsh Water is dumping untreated sewage into the protected 406 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,800 River Usk. 407 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,960 They shouldn't go black when the blue line is that low. 408 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,360 I've come back to show river swimmer Angela Jones our evidence. 409 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:46,280 So what we're seeing here, zoom into the 410 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,200 3rd and the 4th of November, for example. 411 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,280 Yeah? 412 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,080 It is nowhere near, 100%, the red line. 413 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,160 Yeah, I can see. 414 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,200 So from the 3rd to the 4th they're spilling for 25 hours into 415 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,400 the River Usk untreated sewage. 416 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,480 Oh, my goodness. 417 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Let me take you to the next month at that site, so this is 418 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,880 the Christmas just gone. 419 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,560 The spill just goes on and on. 420 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,240 On and on and on and on. 421 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,280 Exactly. Crikey. 422 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280 All the way through to the 30th. 423 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,520 25th, Christmas Day. 424 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,240 Were you swimming in the river on Christmas Day? 425 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,960 Oh, my goodness, of course I was. 426 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,000 I mean, every day. 427 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,880 What a Christmas treat for the river, eh? 428 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,640 I know so many people who swim up that area. 429 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,120 It's just appalling, absolutely appalling. 430 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,920 I can imagine the work that's behind-the-scenes that you've 431 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,280 put into this to get this out there, and it's absolutely... 432 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,520 To look at this on my screen and what you've 433 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,040 come up with today is absolutely staggering. 434 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,480 We can see by these graphs clearly that they are 435 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,120 releasing sewage into the water when they are not allowed to. 436 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:00,440 Welsh Water says its Aberbaiden works is 437 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,640 experiencing some bedding in issues following an upgrade. 438 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,120 These should be sorted out by December. 439 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:16,400 The company says it works with regulators to fix problems. 440 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,920 It does "not accept it's operating illegally" 441 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,920 at any of the sites. 442 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,600 It says it continues to "invest significantly" 443 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,480 and works hard to "comply with all environmental regulations". 444 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,480 If we are finding they're breaching their 445 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,680 permits, which they are, and illegally dumping sewage, what 446 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,720 should happen? 447 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,360 Well, we have a due process to follow about how the 448 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:42,440 systems have to operate to keep our water clean. 449 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,680 And that's what should happen. 450 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Are you going to get tough with the water companies now? 451 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,280 Isn't it the case they've got away with 452 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,520 too much for too long? 453 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,960 I have already got off the water companies. 454 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,800 I called them all in to a roundtable, so I am not 455 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,400 messing about with this, and nor is the government. 456 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,520 But our evidence shows some rivers aren't being protected. 457 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,520 Just think of everything you've put down your 458 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,440 sink, your toilet, your shower and everything else. 459 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,040 This is going into the river untreated. 460 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,880 Does anyone think that's possibly a good idea? 461 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,200 We need to change. 462 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,400 The companies need to alter what they're doing and 463 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,560 get their act completely cleaned up once and for all. 464 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:34,800 The water companies say they are investing. 465 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,920 But surely it's time they stopped dumping so much untreated sewage. 466 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,560 Time they stopped breaking the law. 38053

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